Project R.I.S.E Alpha Test First Look: Gameplay & impressions! What's next for @supercell ?

Speaker 1 it's okay. You know, everything that Supercell picks up is something that works and then make it work better and more streamlined and for more wider audience.
Which is also, by the way, Moco.

Speaker 1 Moco is just like a streamlined version of Diablo.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. I'm still thinking that this will have problems long term in the endgame.
They try content-wise.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Revive me, guys.

Speaker 1 Could be.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can revive myself. I don't worry.
Okay. Great.
So I revive myself. Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1 Hello, everybody.

Speaker 1 Welcome to today's episode. My name is Mattil Ancharic.

Speaker 1 We are your hosts. And it's only two of us here because Half Gamer is uh, well, we are actually playing game again, and it's it's project rise, so Felix is not here.

Speaker 1 Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, yes,

Speaker 1 exactly. No ads, no Felix.
Supercell game, so

Speaker 1 unfortunately, this is this is what is gonna happen. So, this is our third episode for Project Rise, and this is already Alpha Test, if I'm right.

Speaker 1 And this is the third one, if I understand

Speaker 1 third one, yes.

Speaker 1 So, okay.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna share the screen. Well, share the screen.
Share my my phone because, well, I'm the one who's playing the game, actually.

Speaker 1 I was able to run it on my fucking emulator, but but it crashes right after joining the game. So

Speaker 1 thank you again.

Speaker 1 Well, it's called mobile phones and mobile games for a reason. It doesn't supposed to run.
It doesn't supposed to run on

Speaker 1 on the fucking emulator. But you know how

Speaker 1 it works. So.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as per usual,

Speaker 1 we'll run through the changes and what's been pretty much happening with the game and then go into some gameplay and probably go even into some

Speaker 1 crazy attempts of me crazy.

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Speaker 1 And we can actually go and play Project Rice. So let me actually share my screen.
And this is it. I'm on floor 14

Speaker 1 and I haven't died yet, which is unusual.

Speaker 1 Difficulty is much easier.

Speaker 1 It's easier, yeah, yeah. Because the last time I played and I was,

Speaker 1 well, I didn't get that far. I think I was stuck on floor 10

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 most of the time when I played, wait, oh, I need to actually click on things so I don't go to the mode. Anyway, so I was kind of um playing alone almost all all of the time.
So now when I actually go

Speaker 1 and play,

Speaker 1 I can get bots.

Speaker 1 You can summon bots. That was so many features.
But only after some time. After like

Speaker 1 matchmade like for like what 10 seconds or something? Yeah, I think 15, but I will check it. So I'm going to play.
You're going to read the notes or just comment or how do you want to do it?

Speaker 1 Because there are two things. Okay,

Speaker 1 and I'll read the notes, I guess, after you finish the floor or something, we'll get to the tower forge upgrade. Yeah, and then run through the UI.

Speaker 1 So, what's happening with the game? So, as I said, this is the third

Speaker 1 alpha. And I think we predicted it was pre-alpha.
Two pre-alphas.

Speaker 1 Yes. No, this is

Speaker 1 alpha, but the two previous

Speaker 1 versions we played were both pre-alpha. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I was expecting that this would be the last one, like something in Q1, but it's definitely not this one.

Speaker 1 It's probably one more during Q1, so definitely don't count this January one as it is. I think one more

Speaker 1 or I don't know, but like, yeah, let's see.

Speaker 1 You think like one more test and it's gonna be killed or lounge or soft launch? Soft launch, soft launch. Definitely

Speaker 1 soft launch now. No worries.
Yeah, yeah, now.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you need to never know, right? I think they're gonna soft launch. Why shouldn't they now if uh uh after all the

Speaker 1 drama anyway, so

Speaker 1 exactly. The scorebuster drama is that they will not soft or global launch everything.
So I, you know, why not kill

Speaker 1 now?

Speaker 1 I know. It's like Fisherman again, of course.
It's super OP, isn't it? Like self-helen shit.

Speaker 1 Not really, but it's definitely better than the

Speaker 1 small cloud thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's the stinky cloud there. But honestly, I really enjoyed playing the barbarian, but as soon as I saw I unlocked the fisherman

Speaker 1 for float five, then I said, Yeah, let's go. This is this is new.
This is new look.

Speaker 1 It's obviously the color coding. So I assume different variety of perks, right? Yeah, there are four different varieties.
It says in the loading screens.

Speaker 1 Nice. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 You see also the visual effects on the one that's like the more like rareware. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so let me

Speaker 1 run through the notes quickly. So, what's changing? There's hero page UI has been innovated.
I think

Speaker 1 minor changes there. HUD UI has been innovated.
I mean, the main core gameplay one, the one that you're seeing now, the one when you're in the game, I guess, a little bit more cleaner.

Speaker 1 Not that, like, I don't, I don't see functional changes. Per recycling before and after is changed and this is kind of one of those changes.
So let me read through the patch notes.

Speaker 1 We reworked the place of the perk recycling screens. Yes, there were two of them and it was annoying.
Now

Speaker 1 perks are highlighted on the left and the rest that will be discarded are grouped separately on the right. Tapping a perk moves it between the key discard piles.

Speaker 1 And tapping recycling recycle dumps everything currently

Speaker 1 sweet tower tokens for your tour blah blah blah blah blah some small quality of life fixes like being able to see when the next key perk slot opens up and seeing a breakdown of the recycle amount

Speaker 1 yeah uh

Speaker 1 wait so when i when i tried to recycle the perks i couldn't even see properly like what what those perks are uh until i just kind of

Speaker 1 ho held my my finger on top of the perk just to see so you need to tap and wait and hold the

Speaker 1 finger, which was really

Speaker 1 unusual.

Speaker 1 I just found it

Speaker 1 by accident.

Speaker 1 Tower upgrades in pre-alpha 2. Your floor performance and recycling perks earn pass points, which rewarded you with chests.

Speaker 1 That was a stopgap measure that was always intended to change.

Speaker 1 Going forward, floor performance will still earn pass points for chests, but the recycled perks will generate tower tokens, a currency that levels up your account so that over time you can access to features and upgrades that help you

Speaker 1 your journey up the tower and where you're experiencing the tower. Some examples are upgrades of the tower.
Yeah, so if I understand correctly,

Speaker 1 tower upgrades are basically like features that you slowly upgrade as you go in progress.

Speaker 1 It's almost like a trophy road. Yeah, I I like Trophy Road.
I think Monopoly Go has this setup where the stronger you get, the more features the game unlocks.

Speaker 1 It's not like...

Speaker 1 I will show you. Well, I'm not sure

Speaker 1 if you can see the whole progression, but it's not. It's not Tower Forge, by the way.

Speaker 1 Tower upgrades. I know, I know.
It's two different things. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So... Phoenix feathers increase the max number of Phoenix feathers you can carry between the floors.
And yes, this means you now start with none.

Speaker 1 Forge unlocks the tower forge where you can generate new perks with gold. TikTok trials, daily quests that you can complete for extra rewards while journeying up the tower.

Speaker 1 And what more to be revealed soon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess we'll talk about the forge and its update when we'll actually see the forge screen. Not now, because that's I think that's the first meta feature that they added here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because

Speaker 1 first two tests we just get the bare bone game that was, I mean, bare bone is.

Speaker 1 Pre-roll now. Meta roll now.
Okay, fuck, didn't help that much.

Speaker 1 Because the pre-roll, I actually

Speaker 1 unlocked in the tower.

Speaker 1 So, how do you find the game?

Speaker 1 As for like, you know, player perspective?

Speaker 1 It's definitely easier when you don't play alone. And

Speaker 1 I don't think that much changed. I played it, I think, first on Saturday Saturday for like 10 minutes, and I was surprisingly annoyed.
I didn't know why,

Speaker 1 but then I started playing again. I was like, ah, it's actually, actually quite fun.
The problem is when I hold my phone, I almost, it's just like I can fry egg on that phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I read it already that a lot of people are complaining that it's over.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's, it's like, fuck, I can really like, I can, I can make my breakfast for sure easily and it really drains the battery so I played for for I think like 20 minutes as one session and then I think it was like 30 or 40 percent of battery gone

Speaker 1 it that's just like come on guys you can do better you can do way better I know it's alpha like it's unoptimized probably but still yeah but still exactly

Speaker 1 that's a part of the experience it's unreal engine probably that's that's one of the because it's not there anyway it is it is you were trying to to load the sk the the the game and it it said on your on your uh um pc that it's unreal engine yeah yeah it's unreal engine

Speaker 1 so that's the problem okay this is what this is one of the first because most of supercell games if i understand is in their proprietary engine so

Speaker 1 yeah unreal is not more heavy but of course you can do much more like

Speaker 1 yeah beautiful stuff in it let's say

Speaker 1 also there's the this part that i'm gonna show you hopefully secret room secret rooms, yeah.

Speaker 1 That was there before, no? That was there before, but now

Speaker 1 it's really hidden in all of these levels.

Speaker 1 So you need to find it. And it's not that easy to find, actually, because it was easier before, but now at least

Speaker 1 I can.

Speaker 1 You're getting random perks and random primary breaks. Yes, exactly.
Okay. That's nice.
It is still alive. Nice.

Speaker 1 What are the bots doing, by the way, in the meantime?

Speaker 1 They're trying to just follow you.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I think their main objective is to find the elevator and then just go there and then say, send me this is this way, this way, this way, this way. So I can

Speaker 1 having it. Yeah, pretty much.
I don't want to go there because I thought I am just going to find this.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there is this new thing which is called the elevator engine, most probably. This these three

Speaker 1 so they're all in the in the in the level but you can just have one and then you unlock the the elevator but if you have more

Speaker 1 you get more you get more uh what is the

Speaker 1 the currency there it's like coins for for the chests so now I think I will I will I will get 80 but if I have all of all for all three of them I will have 140. You had only one before?

Speaker 1 Oh, like the one that

Speaker 1 I have only one now.

Speaker 1 I tried to find the other two, but I mean, for the sake of time and everything. Ah, fuck.
Okay.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Midst opportunity.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that would be great.

Speaker 1 But I died, but thanks to my perk,

Speaker 1 I was

Speaker 1 close, close, I was resurrected immediately.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's actually becoming quite hard in like it's level fourteen now, or room 14 and obviously bots didn't help or they don't help that much.

Speaker 1 Ah, they're just meat.

Speaker 1 So it's not bad.

Speaker 1 The problem I have with now with this because I upgraded the fishermen and now I have big fish instead. So instead of the small fishes and very

Speaker 1 very quick attacks that I had before, now I have one strong one and it's annoyingly slow. So this power core collected.
So these power cores go they go directly into the chest. So, now you look.

Speaker 1 So, we have perk recycling.

Speaker 1 And now, I need to hold

Speaker 1 my thumb on the

Speaker 1 corner.

Speaker 1 If you discard some of the perks, you get

Speaker 1 this bonus here. Yeah, you get war bonus, duplicate bonus, and additional from the perks that you discard.
Yep, exactly. So, here so risk-reward scenario again.
Yes, so okay, chill, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so recycle. This goes directly to

Speaker 1 oof, this is the hard one. This goes here.
So let's upgrade here.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 level two forge.

Speaker 1 Can I go back there? Yeah, don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. Here,

Speaker 1 so if you go to level three, you get Phoenix feathers.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 plus one.

Speaker 1 Yes. Now I have two

Speaker 1 roll.

Speaker 1 I guess plus increase max

Speaker 1 four.

Speaker 1 And then TikTok Torrels is what? Additional

Speaker 1 tasks for more rewards. So this is like sort of hero something.
Yeah, exactly. Look, so I defeated this.
TikToks is basically daily missions. Yes, that's daily missions.
What are they giving?

Speaker 1 What currency?

Speaker 1 The core

Speaker 1 parts for like what's this

Speaker 1 for for the chests for the chest tracker. Yes, fire tracker.

Speaker 1 No, this

Speaker 1 so it's coins wild hero batch

Speaker 1 and then hero badge.

Speaker 1 What's wild hero badge? I will show you.

Speaker 1 If you now, if you don't have the

Speaker 1 universal shard kind of exactly universal shards. Now you got firecracker, and you need to get shards of firecracker to have the curve.
But if you have the universal shard currency, which is the

Speaker 1 wild

Speaker 1 exactly yes yeah then you can agree yeah this is very common yes so the the classic stuff i think yeah let's go over the forge tower forge maybe okay we can do

Speaker 1 forge

Speaker 1 yeah so this is the new system that they added called tower forge i guess the one that's like metagame based one the tower forge is where new perks are made for your next climb up to tower by spending gold you craft a random perk from those available this means players will end up with different pools of available perks on their journey.

Speaker 1 The forge has multiple levels. Each level gives access to subset of perks.
By acquiring tower tokens you can unlock higher levels of forge and more perks.

Speaker 1 Perks are classified as great, super, mega and ultra.

Speaker 1 Because although perks are not created equal all perks are awesome. Awesome.
Lastly, some perks will only drop in specific tower environments so be sure to find them while you're on those floors.

Speaker 1 Of course since the game only has two environments this isn't a big deal right now, but we'll hope it will become an interesting tactic choice once we start introducing a lot more environments into the game.

Speaker 1 You're constantly refining, adding, and removing and breaking things. The tower wasn't built in a day.

Speaker 1 Share the feedback. Thank you very much.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 let's just go to a tester on how this works. So, if I understand, this is the these are the perks that you brought from the previous floor to the next floor, yes? No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 These are the ones that I built or forged. so I couldn't find these before I forged them.
So, all of these eight,

Speaker 1 as soon as I forged them, I could find them in the floors. So, that's why I have this pool of perks that you can find exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 So, that's why it's like a deck of cards, pretty much, pretty much. So, if you don't have,

Speaker 1 yeah, if you don't have these perks before, you can't find them, basically. Yeah, easy as that.
So, this is

Speaker 1 some default perks if you don't have this.

Speaker 1 Yes, there are default perks that you don't have to do.

Speaker 1 What happens if you click on forge?

Speaker 1 Nothing, because I'm going to forge level two to forge more perks, which is in one thou one hundred

Speaker 1 whatever these diamonds are. Okay.
So I need one. One more question.
If you go to the forge thing, this was one by one unlocked or like how should I imagine the screen where I was just forging.

Speaker 1 By the way, this the the number of coin scales with each perk forged. Each forge? Yeah, so I I forged first forge was on level well, coined like 40, I think.
I don't remember anymore.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it was 40, 80, and then just goes up. So I guess that it's just eight of the same for everybody, just in random order.
It's exactly, it was random order. It was random order.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as I started, I forged them here, then I immediately found them in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, eight levels.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's pretty much like

Speaker 1 something similar to like vampire vampire survivors.

Speaker 1 Vampire survivors have that system that when you kind of move higher and like unlock these quests and stuff, they added more stuff into the mix.

Speaker 1 But these guys don't have recipes yet, which is like, you know, collect two perks and use into weapon, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's like typical rogue light mechanics. That's that's that's like

Speaker 1 this perk is just fucking terrible because it consumes two random perks to generate a random level three perk. But I had a level three perk and it consumed

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, which can be, but it was

Speaker 1 good.

Speaker 1 Or at least what's the, I don't know what the color represents. The purple was what rare, I guess.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I

Speaker 1 think super mega ultra.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much, Super Self, for making it really easy to understand what the color means. But yeah, click on the I if like if it's there, yes, okay, yeah.
This is super super.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it says super, yeah, okay, good. This is good.
Okay, great.

Speaker 1 Okay, so great means shit. Great means shit, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 What do you say, great, super, ultra, and what? Mega and ultra. So, mega goes after super, and after mega goes ultra.

Speaker 1 You know, like if at least you have some consistency, guys, you have like common, uncommon, rare, and epic, or whatever, like 90% of your games,

Speaker 1 or at least the same

Speaker 1 terminology as squad busters. You have

Speaker 1 ultra, and then mega is way different than what was it the mega evolutions that they have there, yes. So it's not even in the same order as it did here, anyway.
Okay, it's it's confusing.

Speaker 1 So we can what we what we want to do. Uh, we can do heroes and upgrade the firecracker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because here we have the heavy fuel, so it's a trade kills with heavy attacks pawns of firework. Great, I love it.

Speaker 1 We have more, No, we don't. Okay.

Speaker 1 How can you upgrade these heroes? You need their shards and you need to

Speaker 1 pretty much collect.

Speaker 1 Upgrade. Yoohoo! New upgrades.
And how did you get a new hero? It it dropped from the gotcha? So one dropped from the gacha just now, which was the firecracker.

Speaker 1 I unlocked Fisherman on the room fifty five.

Speaker 1 By script.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. I I guess.
But yeah, I just how do you get the counters then?

Speaker 1 Come

Speaker 1 No idea, man. Click on the button or like the.

Speaker 1 Okay, nothing. So here, nothing, nothing.
It doesn't matter. Counters, upgrades, and traits are not available in the alpha test.

Speaker 1 So you don't.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I saw it in the...
No, no, no. Wait.
But it's written there. Yes, but this countess upgrades and traits.

Speaker 1 But the actual hero is...

Speaker 1 Yeah, the character is there. I played with the character sheet.

Speaker 1 the that was the sign. Go back.

Speaker 1 Chance to unlock this hero in 12 more chests.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. So I need to.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Yeah, you know.
If you read stuff, then you know. Yes.

Speaker 1 Surprisingly effective.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I never do. Which I never do.

Speaker 1 I should, I should get better in this. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I need to get 12 more chests, which is. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, this is quite a lot. 12 more chests is gonna be a lot of uh

Speaker 1 a lot of pass points anyway. So

Speaker 1 shall we go to the hard floor and see if it's

Speaker 1 not that far? I guess it'll be much more fun than me playing with you on this floor. Yeah, that's true.
Let's see, we can select the hero. Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, interesting. So I can't select you can change the hero? I can't change the hero.

Speaker 1 Only mighty heroes can be chosen. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's feathers.

Speaker 1 You can buy more feathers. Yes, but I have only two slots because I was

Speaker 1 yes, but then if I go here and then look, see? Yeah, you need to upgrade the tower upgrades and then

Speaker 1 I need 80 more or whatever, 83. Yeah, go kill yourself so you can get the upgrades for the forge so we can then see it in the second iteration.
I mean, go win some points. That would be good.

Speaker 1 You go win some points, yeah.

Speaker 1 But this is interesting because I just, uh you know i only can hear i only be and look

Speaker 1 i only mighty heroes can be chosen so you really need to have your character evolve and upgraded to actually get on the floor 15.

Speaker 1 okay good

Speaker 1 phoenix and bro you can carry between two okay fine yeah that's what we thought yeah yeah yeah yeah okay i'm kind of surprising like how small steps this game is moving forward

Speaker 1 yeah right

Speaker 1 like honestly like, don't get me wrong. Like, they're doing a great job and everything.
Like, it's getting more bullish and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But it's still, like, I would expect much more progression unlocked already from a meta perspective.

Speaker 1 And like, I'm I can't,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't I exactly don't wanna be rude or something, but

Speaker 1 I thi I'm I'm thinking like if this is done by a small team that really needs needs to survive,

Speaker 1 this would be already in soft launch with like way quicker

Speaker 1 improvements. Because it's just you have to.
There's no other way.

Speaker 1 And this, yeah, this is moving very slowly.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Okay. Woof.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's it's gonna be my time. Finally.

Speaker 1 Those two boats are there? Oh, no, no, no, not that. Go, go, go.

Speaker 1 Not Not that, because I have that

Speaker 1 one that one perk.

Speaker 1 It's just two Phoenix feathers, no? You can still go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Where's that

Speaker 1 person that just died? Oh, both of them died. Great.
Both of them died.

Speaker 1 How long does it take to select someone?

Speaker 1 Hopefully.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'll just leave.

Speaker 1 Can you kill yourself somehow? No. I mean,

Speaker 1 there were some points.

Speaker 1 And I have this perk that should give me

Speaker 1 actually

Speaker 1 the bots raise themselves. That's great.
Yes, good. Okay, fine.
So I don't need to do it. But they have only two feathers left.
Just die back.

Speaker 1 You have also two feathers left.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 But we also have this really annoying tower, which

Speaker 1 is quite hard to beat. Are the mobs mobs that hard because you're not even touching the boss?

Speaker 1 Oh, kind of, I am touching the boss. Come on, don't be that.

Speaker 1 It's actually, they're getting harder and harder, man. This is for

Speaker 1 15.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 both are dead again? Yes, yeah, one is one is dead.

Speaker 1 Archers are the problem, no?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 and these jumping idiots

Speaker 1 give me a break. Oof.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's

Speaker 1 both boats are dead. But they have restoring timers.
I see ticking timers.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's it's if you if you don't resurrect them by the time they're dead permanently. Aha, okay.
So five seconds.

Speaker 1 I think your time is also ticking quite a bit.

Speaker 1 Revive now. Let's see if if they will revive me.
Yes, please. If I if if if he revives me, don't go don't go.
You can click revive now.

Speaker 1 I can revive myself, but revive me, fucking idiot. Okay, I need to revive because if I if I if the time is

Speaker 1 is gone,

Speaker 1 then you I need to use the feather, which I which I had to.

Speaker 1 So, wow,

Speaker 1 okay, nice, thank you.

Speaker 1 But if he revives me, then I don't need to use the feather, which is better. Ah, okay, I understood now.

Speaker 1 So you can keep dying and reviving non-stop?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 kind of, but someone needs to revive me. Of course, like, you know, once someone dies, then the other one dies, so on and so forth.
Yeah, yeah, I help. Yeah, fine.
I will try.

Speaker 1 Okay. I guess with bots, it's different because they

Speaker 1 seem like they have unlimited reviving options, which is good. So they are at least a little bit useful.

Speaker 1 Somebody's killing the boss at least. Yeah, well, someone has to.
I'm trying to survive. So, this is.
Yeah, fuck. This is actually really, really.

Speaker 1 Come on, leave me alone.

Speaker 1 These, these floors,

Speaker 1 I mean, they are labeled hard. So, I mean, they're supposed to be hard.
Yeah, they're supposed to be hard, of course.

Speaker 1 Just die. Just fucking die.
Okay. I think you have also like a guy with low single target damage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, okay, so sentry defeated 650 points. Nice.
Well, wait a second. You dealt 44k and the bob skilled 30k.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Not that bad. Not that bad, I know.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. I actually unlocked more

Speaker 1 perks so I can keep more of them. Yeah, I mean, this is just how it works.
So higher floors, more perks you can keep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Pretty much. Oof, there you go.
So now for 16, which is like easy for again. I mean, normal.
So

Speaker 1 this is the chest part.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but some gotcha.

Speaker 1 Seriously.

Speaker 1 This is 10, 10, and 100. But I had more, so I have

Speaker 1 good. Yes.

Speaker 1 You didn't get any points? No.

Speaker 1 Why? Yeah, because you don't get points, because I didn't recycle anything.

Speaker 1 And the base was zero for this floor. Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Welcome to the world of... Oh, nice.
I have actually two

Speaker 1 people, real people, playing with me. Nice.
Which is great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's right.
My problem with this is it takes really long until you finish the level. That's my problem with this.
I mean, you can grind.

Speaker 1 Yes. You can grind a lot, which is good.
You can really upgrade the perks. You see, this, I think the actual XPs are way faster now than it was before, because I think I wasn't really able to

Speaker 1 progress so quickly.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's see.

Speaker 1 Because this...

Speaker 1 I felt like I'm stuck.

Speaker 1 Now I feel like I'm actually progressing, which is nice.

Speaker 1 I wasn't there before. I guess they balanced it a little bit more.

Speaker 1 I mean, they should.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 And again.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, I've seen.
Okay. Another level.

Speaker 1 Okay, die.

Speaker 1 They already found the elevator, but we don't have the engine, so we can't actually start and just go there. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 he found an engine, so we can actually

Speaker 1 make it quite quick.

Speaker 1 Okay, I see wait, so I get more points when I recycle this

Speaker 1 higher level higher kind of recycling here. This is the problem.
Look, so I have all these crystals and I didn't see the

Speaker 1 wishing wheel.

Speaker 1 These three on the top, yes, but these the diamonds now kind of

Speaker 1 trying to grind

Speaker 1 which are the 85 crystals I have that are that's that can be used in the wishing world. Oh,

Speaker 1 maybe I found it

Speaker 1 once again I forgot if you have the elevator crystals you get more tower upgrade points

Speaker 1 you get more points to to the chest

Speaker 1 there's so many currencies in this game yeah

Speaker 1 exactly it's quite confusing from the start, but then not that bad. Ah, fuck.

Speaker 1 I don't want to die.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Wait a second. Where's the.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 Fuck, I don't have enough time.

Speaker 1 Because then the timer started, and then

Speaker 1 what happens if you run out of the timer? No, it's just it goes automatically up. I teleport you there.
Yes.

Speaker 1 So, not enough time to grind the third key. Exactly, and the wishing well.
Because if I do the wishing well, I have more

Speaker 1 perks, so I can recycle them,

Speaker 1 which gives me more points, obviously. Okay.

Speaker 1 Who are these?

Speaker 1 Oh, they're just

Speaker 1 that also probably means that you need to cooperate because if you were if you three were going together, you would be killing stuff much faster, wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 Yes, of course. I mean, that's the whole point.
I mean, that's the whole point. That's why it was so hard when I played alone.
It was just impossible. I mean, it wasn't impossible.

Speaker 1 It was quite, quite hard, and not fun.

Speaker 1 This is at least a little bit of fun.

Speaker 1 Very interesting. I think, like,

Speaker 1 the more I see of this game, I'm just like

Speaker 1 more and more confused

Speaker 1 regarding the long-term progression of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 where this game can go and where it should go. That's my question.
Like, where does the game game go and like if it's enough? Because imagine that this is your daily session.

Speaker 1 I mean, my daily session is already a couple of hours. It's it's good for now, but you know, like this reminds me our good old, let's see, Bunny.

Speaker 1 You know what, just for sake

Speaker 1 because there's like so many decisions and so many things which are kind of you know

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say casual

Speaker 1 already it seems to me like this is gonna be very very niche

Speaker 1 I want to say this reminds me look I still don't have the first fuck anyway

Speaker 1 it's fine

Speaker 1 we can and and and there no

Speaker 1 no of course no yeah we can just we can just now kind of talk about

Speaker 1 where where you should go and like how this reminds me the the good old Diablo 4 beta

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 it was, it's, I want to play this, but then

Speaker 1 if I need to go

Speaker 1 to actually play it and go through all of this,

Speaker 1 then it's just not going to be as fun, I guess, because this is limited. I really need to play, and I don't, I again, I don't know like how

Speaker 1 they are going to measure the retention afterwards. It needs to really go to soft launch because this is everything.

Speaker 1 Your retention on your testers is like, you know, that's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Yes, this is exactly. That's why I'm saying, like, this needs to really go to the

Speaker 1 oh, here is the machine. Well, great.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so now I see it has actually this, okay. Like, tester cohort will play anything if you exactly

Speaker 1 supercell Pac-Man, they'll play it.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm saying, like, this needs to go to soft launch because

Speaker 1 if it doesn't really go to soft launch, then you will be

Speaker 1 it's going to be misleading. It's like, it's not going to tell you anything.
exactly oh this is quite quite quick okay good

Speaker 1 but then oh i think i grinded a lot of perks in the wishing well so that's good but then i'm trying to still figure out like what they're trying what they're trying to achieve in with like third alpha test

Speaker 1 yeah i also don't know like why because the thing is that let's say if you take um

Speaker 1 Let's take for instance Survivor IO, which is also Roguelite.

Speaker 1 It's not corporate proguelight, it's Roguelite.

Speaker 1 The thing is that that game is driven mainly

Speaker 1 by giant progression of metal layers. There's like seven or ten of them now.
I don't know even how many.

Speaker 1 And that's it, pretty much. Like you progress, progress, progress, so many metal layers.
This has what, like one?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't know. And I still don't think that,

Speaker 1 for instance, can you create

Speaker 1 different tactics for this? Or like, you know, this isn't something that you are creating builds for and stuff like that. Maybe two or three, that's it.

Speaker 1 Like, each character will have one best build, and that's it, probably. Yeah, but the thing is, but you die, you go from the floor one.

Speaker 1 There's checkpoints. There's checkpoints.
They said they're going to be checkpoints.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe I'm going to die and see what's what's going to happen, but it's like it's uh it's floor 18 and there's seven more floors and then what? I don't think we're the end game yet.

Speaker 1 Which

Speaker 1 it's I can, yeah, well, one boss, okay, good. So, we can I can get there, of course, in a very short period of time, because now it's easier than it was before.
But then, is it fun if it's easier?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like, for me, I'm maybe just like too much of a progression guy.

Speaker 1 It's the thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm a progression guy. So, if I focus on progression, min-max stuff, and you know, like...

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think this is going to be kind of a game for you.

Speaker 1 Is this supposed to be for casual players? Because they asked a lot of stuff in the survey. They did, but the whole thing is kind of complex.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, you having decisions around perks, recycling, perk choosing, just like

Speaker 1 decision after decision after decision after decision. So many of them.

Speaker 1 So what you're trying to say. So it's not casual? Yeah, it's for me, it doesn't seem that much casual.

Speaker 1 Compared to something like Clash Royale

Speaker 1 or Clash of Clans, for instance, Clash of Clans is much more casual.

Speaker 1 You build timers, you timers, and like there's not many options or timers.

Speaker 1 But still, you have tactics in the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like you have limited tactics around people's different forts and stuff, and like, I don't know what.

Speaker 1 But still, it's

Speaker 1 I don't know. and keep in mind that this is also landscape joystick.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. It's just like

Speaker 1 that's annoying a little bit. How can you kind of annoy me? It's just like smaller total addressable market because people just want don't want to do that.
They don't want to flip their phone.

Speaker 1 They don't want to play with both hands. They don't want this and that.
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 Because maybe,

Speaker 1 well, if you want to play a game like this, you really need two hands. But that doesn't really say anything about the total addressable market.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Change bro stars.

Speaker 1 I know, I know. I know.

Speaker 1 And then that's their

Speaker 1 all biggest crossing game now. Yeah.
I mean, they change landscape to portrait and stuff. Yeah.
I know, I uh

Speaker 1 I know, nice. Okay, so I mean this and you know, see

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 I like oh, okay, nice, great,

Speaker 1 thank you very much for finding this.

Speaker 1 I found out that there is actually an icon on the map for this. So keep in keep in mind also that this is a core PVE game.
All of the Supercell games are

Speaker 1 well, if I discount heyday,

Speaker 1 are PvP

Speaker 1 because we have Clash Royale, Clash of Clans, and Brawl Stars. And okay, hey Day is PvE.

Speaker 1 Not even PVE is a simulation.

Speaker 1 It's a simulation, yeah. Yeah, that's there.
But this is PVE. And there's also Moco

Speaker 1 on the horizon, which is also kind of similar to this.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is. But then it's called PVE.
It's not a rogue light, but it's called PVE. Yes, and you know what it reminds me? The situation we had with Squadbusters.
Flashback and Floodrash. Floodrash.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I guess guess which one has third alpha test right now? Yeah.
And has supercell IP. Guess which one? Right.
So

Speaker 1 you see how it went for Scott Busters because of that. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I know. Scott Rust got killed, in my opinion, was a better game because I was

Speaker 1 much more clear what's happening and very easy to understand because of the dynamics of the bubbles and everything, which

Speaker 1 doesn't have. And yeah.

Speaker 1 I know, and I absolutely agree. It was the same thing for me.
I thought it's gonna be find the power core. Yes, I know I need to find the power core.
Where are these guys? Okay,

Speaker 1 so the thing is, yeah, I need to find the power core, and then the elevator comes. Or can we start? Okay, here we are.

Speaker 1 Maybe, yes. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was ambushed in a wishing well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's not in the wishing well. It was actually the power core.
Ah, okay. So so even other stuff can be hidden.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, other stuff can be hidden. I need to.
Okay. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I see it on the map. It's just like you don't see the door.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Not all.

Speaker 1 Not that hidden. Like you have wallhack on the right.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Pretty much. Basically.

Speaker 1 Basically, well, yeah. Okay, so here we go.
Yeah, so I'm I'm kinda

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like for me, Moco seems better.
Because in Moco I have a clear

Speaker 1 progression in mind that they could go for, which is just the typical kind of casual version of Diablo, basically.

Speaker 1 But that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Do you really need do we really need like what's happening? Why are

Speaker 1 do we really need another

Speaker 1 the Diablo like game on mobile? There's not many.

Speaker 1 Do pe people really want this?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, me neither.

Speaker 1 Supercell. Like it's okay.
You know, everything that Supercell picks up is something that works and then makes it work better and more streamlined and for more wider audience.

Speaker 1 Which is also, by the way, Moco. Moco is just like

Speaker 1 version of Diablo.

Speaker 1 So, I don't know. I'm still thinking that this will have problems long term in the endgame.

Speaker 1 They try content-wise.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Revive me, guys.

Speaker 1 Could be. Oh, Oh, I can revive myself.
I don't want to. Okay, great.
So I revive myself. Jesus Christ.
Just wait for two seconds. Yeah, I know.
That's that's exactly what I usually do. Okay, so.

Speaker 1 Recycle everything so we can get to upgrade. No, I can get this.
Yeah, I think this is already.

Speaker 1 If you recycle that level 3 skill, you will get 300 points. Yes.
I don't know why I do that. Exactly.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's check the Tabor upgrade. Yes.
Oh, I can claim. Okay, great.
Good.

Speaker 1 Fuck, it was all. Oh, Jesus Christ.
So, this is.

Speaker 1 I thought I'm gonna get all of these basically, but this is the next is Phoenix Feathers, the next afterwards is the pre-roll, and then

Speaker 1 15,000 after 15,

Speaker 1 guys. Come on, nobody's gonna get there doing beta properly, so they're gonna be.
Almost probably, yes, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, but at least I can forge. So, you forge

Speaker 1 again, shit skill.

Speaker 1 Yes, so we already have them on like this grey skilled.

Speaker 1 What was that? Oh, okay. So those are mega skills.
This is great.

Speaker 1 This is a mega skill, yes. Hero stones also skeletons hands.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Look, I'm just going to... If you die, if you die, like there's an area limit spell.
Yeah, but at least I can get here. I think this is going to be the last.

Speaker 1 Crit after heal or firebell flicker. We'll see.
No, of course if now just some bullshit. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's the thing. Like I'm gonna run off the coins which I ran.
Okay, great. Okay.

Speaker 1 But it's you can get the same skill two times, yeah? No, yeah, exactly. So I'm gonna eventually get this shit.

Speaker 1 It's a box gotcha.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm actually eventually going to get this shield observer. Oh, this is nice.
Yeah, you just need to pay the highest cost, probably. That's it.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay.

Speaker 1 So this is nice. Like, it's a nice addition, but still, in my opinion, very light regarding new functionality, new mechanics, and new meta-progression regarding the content they have.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I thought that this would be like the end of this alpha testing shenanigans and would go to soft lunch after Q1, but now I'm more skeptical.

Speaker 1 This probably won't go into soft lunch after Q1, definitely. No,

Speaker 1 we'll see.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice, okay. I see, I can see you right away.
Nice, okay, good. Good.

Speaker 1 Share the screen. Okay.
So I had 80% of my phone battery. Now I have 38%.

Speaker 1 My iPhone is four months old, basically. So, guys, if you can do something about this for the next.
My whole Discord is full of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's insane.
And now

Speaker 1 I can really hit my dinner on top of my phone as well.

Speaker 1 If I pick up my phone now, I will get earburned immediately. Let's see.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Anyway.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 I guess. It's done.

Speaker 1 It doesn't really move almost anywhere. It's just very slow, step by step, which takes four months.
When was the last time we played this? Like, before I went to US, it was like the summer?

Speaker 1 Let me double-check. Check it in the actual first November.
Okay, first

Speaker 1 November. Second, second.

Speaker 1 I was already in the US. Come on.

Speaker 1 I'm really I'm pretty sure I played this before I was in the US, man. Oh no, I was in the US.
You're right. I was in the US.
Second of November, man. I was in the US.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was in the US.

Speaker 1 Okay. Nice.

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