Top Girl game review: Idle Game made with AI meets 4X genre!

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In this episode, we delve into the unexpected success of the game Top Girl, exploring its unique gameplay mechanics, the influence of AI in its design, and the surprising elements of 4X integrated into a waifu game.


We also discuss the game's revenue potential, the simplification of 4X mechanics, and the future of AI in the gaming industry, concluding with predictions about the game's trajectory and the broader implications for mobile gaming.




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Chapters




00:00 Introduction to the Gaming Landscape


03:06 Exploring Top Curl: A Surprising Game


05:54 The Numbers Behind Top Curl's Success


09:04 Gameplay Mechanics: A Unique Experience


12:03 The AI Influence in Game Design


15:12 Forex Elements in a Waifu Game


17:54 Simplifying Forex: A New Approach


21:09 The Future of AI in Gaming


23:55 Concluding Thoughts and Predictions




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Takeaways




Top Girl is a surprising success in the gaming market. It is still in soft launch!


The game combines waifu, an idle game with 4X mechanics.


AI plays a significant role in game design and character creation.


The revenue model shows potential for high earnings.


Simplifying Forex mechanics could attract a broader audience.


The integration of AI in gaming is a growing trend.


Matej expresses discomfort with the game's adult themes.


Top Girl's gameplay is unlike traditional 4X games. Streamlined!


The gaming industry is evolving with AI-driven innovations.


Predictions suggest a bright future for AI in mobile gaming.




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Speaker 1 Yeah, completely unexpected because I really didn't expect like a waifu game that will actually make it in the west will be a hidden forex, which this seems to be, by the way.

Speaker 1 King's choice kind of made it. That's also a waifu game than the west.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 200 million, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's not that waifu game. It's not the same.
Yeah, it's like waifu, I mean like discatcher-based waifu. Okay.

Speaker 2 This is a no-bullshit gaming show where we talk about games and their revenue in great detail, powered by our ad monetization, game design, and user acquisition triple threat expertise.

Speaker 2 Welcome to the two and a half gamers, the unfiltered truth, served with a side of giggles.

Speaker 2 Let's not forget this is a 4 a.m. conference discussion vibe, so let's not take it too seriously.
Tune in now and stay two and a half steps ahead of the gaming industry.

Speaker 1 No, it's like

Speaker 1 welcome everybody. This is the thing.
This is it. Yeah, I know.
I know. This is the real shit.
Real, real shit. Okay, welcome everybody.
These two and a half gamers, another episode.

Speaker 1 So, to give you context, are again

Speaker 1 surprised, surprise, talking about the game. But again, is it the game? Is it an app? Is it the plane or whatever it is? What genre it is?

Speaker 1 So, to give you context and history, also to Felix, to you, because we are talking,

Speaker 1 I got bamboozled

Speaker 1 with it worked.

Speaker 1 It worked, it worked really well. And not only you, because I was talking to Jang from Endgame, and I was like, Hey, have you seen Top Curl?

Speaker 1 And I was like, Ah, I've seen the ad. And then it's like, I mentioned, like, this is the genre.
And he's like, what the fuck? Like, how? And then I shared the screen. She's like, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the context is: let's talk about something else than Forex for a while because, you know, it's this ticks, this looks like a clicker, which it looks really good.

Speaker 1 With AI, yeah, with AI.

Speaker 1 It's fine. Let's do it.
Wait. Wait, welcome, everybody.
I'm Matte Langcharit.

Speaker 1 Langshavit.

Speaker 1 I just miss your last name.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should always say Lance. It's fine.
Welcome, everybody. So I want to just give you context.
Yeah. So my name is Matt Lance.
AKA Matte Lancharic.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say your last name.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Don't worry.
Don't you want to drop yours?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can continue.

Speaker 1 Felix Proverbs.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 as usual.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we are your hosts. It's fine.
Don't worry. It's okay.

Speaker 1 Because, yeah, so I wanted to say and mention the context because it was super funny. And I pinged the aqua.

Speaker 1 Have you played this? Not really. Okay.
I will give you this hint. And you're like, oh my God, no.

Speaker 1 So, dear listeners, you're talking about Top Curl Produce 101, which is

Speaker 1 developed by A Free Games.

Speaker 1 And honestly,

Speaker 1 so I was looking into their website. You know, I can share the screen before Jakub takes over and actually starts

Speaker 1 doing things. Because look, it's A3 Games and I I know the context, but people don't know anything now.
So this is a nice website saying about them. They start their idea 2021.

Speaker 1 And then there's the team and now they start the journey and they start developing developing the game. And now the game is kind of worldwide, but it's not ready yet.
And I will mention that

Speaker 1 afterwards, because I was talking to one of our friends that we met in China,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 it's basically them. It's a different company.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I'm kind of

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 I don't know now if this is one of their teams because i know stan mentioned uh they have a lot of different teams and this is one of the teams that they under the umbrella of uh tap for fun or this is completely fake so i'm not sure i would say i would say it's the

Speaker 1 the first option which this is kind of like one of their their gaming teams and it's just like a different gaming studio but basically this is tap for fun

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 we have no idea like it it could be maybe no no no no we have no no It's confirmed.

Speaker 1 Things have been confirmed before, and we've been hoodwinked and bamboozled.

Speaker 1 I was talking to Stan yesterday.

Speaker 1 Like, how do you know it's us? And, like, you know, people talk.

Speaker 1 And we have our Slack channel. So, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, guys, yeah, if you want to know all the latest industry news and

Speaker 1 stay two and a half steps ahead of the industry, join the Slack channel. Because that's where everybody talks.

Speaker 1 And it's you know it's all for 4am discussion vibe anyway so they have to we should man we should really run the segment like the pokemon show used to run like in the middle of the series where it says like which pokemon is this with the silver which companies do this it's stuff for fun

Speaker 1 that's

Speaker 1 that's perfect exactly

Speaker 1 so i mean as you might have noticed we are talking about uh the top curl uh game as i mentioned and it's okay i don't know what it is but well i know what it is but you will be surprised.

Speaker 1 Start playing the game and then you'll see. Okay.
Hey, Matt.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite hybrid Casual Studio right now?

Speaker 1 Glad you asked.

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Speaker 1 And now back to the episode. I think yeah, can we do that? Can we do the numbers before we get into the gameplay? Because we're yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 numbers today first,

Speaker 1 okay. Let's go, okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers first, because I was actually, I felt really uncomfortable playing this game.

Speaker 1 I can tell you that, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's basically like I was playing porn on my mobile phone, literally,

Speaker 1 it's softcore porn. I'm yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, I'm surprised this is all in the App Store, if I'm really honest.

Speaker 1 Let me just say, I've seen worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know,

Speaker 1 you should hide your Reddit tabs so our dear listeners don't catch you again.

Speaker 1 That was not a proud moment in two and a half history. Let's just say that.

Speaker 1 That was perfect. What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Anyway.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So why are we talking about this and how this whole thing can end it up on the review menu?

Speaker 1 It's growing. yeah, because it's growing.
And I think uh, I think one of the bots that we have or something uh alerted us to it and just said

Speaker 1 it was in our bot. Yeah, it was in our bot.

Speaker 1 Uh, so yeah, we checked the revenue, like, okay, so what is this?

Speaker 1 It's like nice slow hockey stick to like 60k a day, slow hockey stick.

Speaker 1 Well, within the month, by the way, this is this was released November 7th, so not it's not even a month away, uh, month out, and it's already did like 1 million dollars revenue on IPs.

Speaker 1 There's no ads, so no, no, no hopes there, Felix. And then

Speaker 1 that's what I should have picked up on anyway. Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got also lured into it.
So

Speaker 1 around 50k downloads a day, so like, oh, this seems like an idol game, so maybe the revenue will be even bigger because it's an idol game. Like the screenshots

Speaker 1 smells familiar.

Speaker 1 Screenshots, screens, idol game. Like, if you look at the screenshots and sensitive tab, like, what's there? Um, okay, so some girls, okay, okay, more girls, gotcha.
Okay, so probably gotcha.

Speaker 1 Oh, this looks like an idol game. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I remember this

Speaker 1 very, very much, man. Like, you said, oh, territory battles.

Speaker 1 This can't be Forex. No, no, no, no.
This is an idle clicker for sure. And I was like,

Speaker 1 there's no hospital. So I was like, there's no hospital.

Speaker 1 Well, let's see.

Speaker 1 Man, like,

Speaker 1 I didn't want to review a forex. Like, we ended up here.

Speaker 1 So I'm going and like, just looking at what this is. And, like, I look at the creatives, like, all are basically AI generated.
Like, that's great. We need to talk about this.
That's the new trend.

Speaker 1 Everything's the AI. Not even creatives.
The whole thing is basically AI created. So, yeah, we need to talk about it.
And then I started playing it.

Speaker 1 And then it's actually very unorthodox as for like what's happening here. I don't think so.
I've ever seen this kind of a gameplay.

Speaker 1 And at first, I was like, is this one of those like Japanese idol running a pop group managers thing that like side games do or like whatever these things? You know,

Speaker 1 yeah, go ahead. You know, I remember what you said when we were talking about the kingdom guard.

Speaker 1 You said you have the tower defense and you have endless fucking whatever soft currency.

Speaker 1 you you don't know you you just click and do nothing else and i was really literally like two minutes in and i was just clicking on things making zero decisions having

Speaker 1 zero yeah nothing made sense and i was like

Speaker 1 i'm absolutely sure this is gonna be forex

Speaker 1 let i was like i i was really forcing myself to play and i was like i don't I don't really understand. I was even

Speaker 1 reaching out to Aklika, but this game doesn't make any sense. I don't.

Speaker 1 What is this?

Speaker 1 What is this? I'm suddenly texting one of my AI girls who wants to take me out for dinner. I was like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 I remember my last AI girl was literally sending me screenshots of a chat with other AI girls that was like spreading rumors about me in the office.

Speaker 1 I'll show you. You bastard.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's talk about the fun. Yeah, let's go.
Yeah, let's call it.

Speaker 1 You start playing the thing, and then it kind of starts, let's say, very explicit. There's this flirty conversation with the assistant, and she's kind of really into you immediately.

Speaker 1 And like this goes on a little bit, and then, yeah, like this happens. She's suddenly in her underwear.
And then there's different kinds of underwear. And then she goes around the gotcha.

Speaker 1 It's like, okay, so maybe now we get to the point. And then it gets to like song singing.

Speaker 1 And then it rolls this like cringy AI video yeah like what's that what's that I mean I was clicking on on like everywhere like yeah you do I actually click anywhere it doesn't make sense but exactly do I actually no you don't affect anything or like like what's like what's happening here at this point why they are dancing like no no no

Speaker 1 this makes actually perfect sense At this point, I was still under the illusion that this is the Japanese twist on the pop group management thing where you have like dance gameplay and you need to literally like do quick time events with buttons, and the girls are dancing like this.

Speaker 1 That's normal, like it's normal. That's what I was clicking.
That's what I was clicking. Yeah, yeah.
Like, in this case, it's completely automatic. I was like, okay, maybe they simplified.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 Something will be different. Whatever.
Let's move on. So we're continuing on this rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 And again, of course, like more stuff that we don't understand at all, what's happening here, like completely unfamiliar UI flow,

Speaker 1 whatever, some random numbers. We haven't gotten to the cities yet.
The random city mover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll get there. So there's a capture

Speaker 1 girls' plan. Yeah, there's capture girls' plan.
Girls started kind of switching off.

Speaker 1 Now we're going on some kind of a tour which just spins the world and you just. You can compare it to Berlin.
Every disco week and in. I have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Then there's still this kind of like narrative that's keep going where she talks about,

Speaker 1 yeah, pretty much like either she's hitting on me or I'm hitting on her or whatever.

Speaker 1 Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 And then yeah, she teaches you some basic functionality and gets in her underwear. And then, like, again, we have another cringe AI video.
And then we move on.

Speaker 1 And suddenly, yeah, you've been promoted as like the CEO because this whole thing is the CEO. And suddenly,

Speaker 1 the new girl comes in. And now there's the idol gameplay.
And I was still like, okay, so maybe this is the idle gameplay. We finally got to it.
Okay. It was just cringy, like 30 onboarding tutorials.

Speaker 1 I'm building a coffee shop. I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Hairdresser as well. Everything.

Speaker 1 So you can actually click on this and you make revenue just by clicking on it. Like, okay, so this seems like it's an idol game.

Speaker 1 Exactly. It's easy.
So we continue. There is no sync.
There is nothing.

Speaker 1 There's things. There are things.
I'll show you. So you're buying coffee shops or whatever, something here.
And like, okay, probably is an idle don't care whatever.

Speaker 1 New girl, she again starts to undress into her underwear, as usual, as the previous girl. And you, you know, send her to the coffee shop.
Why not? And like, you hire some more stuff, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Of course, as usual, more singing, more AI cringy videos. Yeah, let's go.
Then we move on, move on, move on.

Speaker 1 And at some point, yes, she starts to chat and sends you selfies in the chat in like a WhatsApp style message, which are by the way. I love this, by the way, when she you looked at this,

Speaker 1 yeah, this is again all generated, works perfectly on charm, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is all AI.

Speaker 1 And then this kind of cycle continues and continues and continues. And then, let me switch from here to here.

Speaker 1 At some point, uh, it gives you a car, and like, oh, car, what car do, and like, world button, wait a second. So, if we go to, oh, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 1 So, there we are at our usual Forex map. But where's the hospital? Yeah, there's no hospital.
And I

Speaker 1 don't understand how this thing works, but I'll tell you. So,

Speaker 1 what's happening here is basically that under the hood of pop management, AI flirty, gotcha, waifu girls, and everything was a forex.

Speaker 1 Because we just can't. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 This is again another week in Forex games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So what

Speaker 1 we got fooled so so everything is like according to this like theme where the enemies are stuff like concerts stadiums hotels and shopping malls and for instance if you go to stadium you like this is like like the boss when you need to rally your members so you imagine like the boss on the forex map if we go to something like a concert

Speaker 1 uh this is like a small enemy like the zombie in last war and you need to kind of perform which means you need to bring your fans.

Speaker 1 So it's actually the soldiers are the fans.

Speaker 1 And that's the usual thing. Like you can, you know, do stuff around here, like select different girls.

Speaker 1 What I really like about this whole thing, they actually simplified Forex a lot. Like, I still don't understand how I revive.

Speaker 1 And it seems that they automated the soldier things completely because I don't see any hospital. I don't see any buildings to kind of create these fans.

Speaker 1 They are just as given as rewards for progression, and that's it.

Speaker 1 There's no time currencies. You've seen that there's no time currencies.
I'm not building anything. I'm not running timers, by the way.

Speaker 1 This is very significant iteration on like simplification on Forex. No hospitals, no time currencies, no timers, nothing.

Speaker 1 And you can actually reach the end of the session where you run out of stuff because it has an idle core as the beginning, which is the top number here with everybody, like pretty much determines your power, which is the number of soft currency per second.

Speaker 1 Currently at 3 million. Some people in my clan are 30, some people on the server are 300 already.
But this is the main thing.

Speaker 1 And then you have this kind of other gold currency, which is, if we go into the street, which is the idle game, basically, it is the thing that actually upgrades these shops and whatever coffee machines, which is the,

Speaker 1 I would say, the real currency of the game, where it, you know, you need to spend this. But still,

Speaker 1 going into the the tour thing which is pretty much your progression gating mechanic in order to move forward you will run out of this eventually anyway and everything's locked behind this so getting new progression gates getting the whole kind of level

Speaker 1 which is like a basic a gate on your idle generation that that's how they pretty much give you the power so

Speaker 1 I would say it's a very very good job even though it's kind of bizarre and

Speaker 1 yeah completely unexpected because i really didn't expect like a waifu game that will actually make it in the west will be a hidden forex which this seems to be by the way kidding's choice kind of made it that's also a waifu game than the west

Speaker 1 it's

Speaker 1 200 million like yeah yeah but it's not that waifu it's not the same yeah it's like a waifu i mean like the gacha based waifu okay

Speaker 1 yeah i mean this this whole thing but just rotates and again it's just like a gating mechanic that, like, you're converting basically one currency to the other one.

Speaker 1 You have the wirefulls there, and

Speaker 1 you did really think that the SR and SSR and all these rankings in those are just not Forex.

Speaker 1 But like, why

Speaker 1 this is not a signature for Forex, man. SSR and SRR.
No, it's not. I know it's not, it's not, but there is also a hint.
It's also a hint.

Speaker 1 Kind of. Come on, come on.
It is.

Speaker 1 Not every Forex needs to have an Asian-based catch.

Speaker 1 No, that's true. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 as I said, there was no hospital. There was no, like, actually, this game is like the most streamlined Forex I ever played, to be honest.
Because they have the radar mechanic, our usual.

Speaker 1 That's, by the way, the main source of like some of these currencies. But this whole like studio thing with like recording labels, and like, yeah, I've never seen anything like it ever before, ever.

Speaker 1 And, and, and if you look at the thing, by the way, because yeah, like I just sent our bikini army to do their job,

Speaker 1 um, whatever that is, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 you see that it's completely AI generated, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 It's completely AI. You see how girls are pretty much changing their heads as they're kind of singing.
Nice, like, those are just frames being generated by each frame.

Speaker 1 So the beauty of this is that it's a simplified waifu based Forex that has assets AI generated, videos AI generated, creatives AI generated. Everything's basically AI generated.

Speaker 1 I think the main like art director for this game is basically an AI. It's like his mid-journey basically.
And that's it.

Speaker 1 It's not that simple, but yes. In terms of the efficiency in production, I would say this is...

Speaker 1 Because even the animations, to be honest, there are no animations, actually. Those are just generated images on girls that are switching clothes between each other and they are not really moving.

Speaker 1 They are just like

Speaker 1 I don't even know how to say it,

Speaker 1 it's just like

Speaker 1 stretching the image from left to right.

Speaker 1 It's very idle position, it's a very idle position. It's just like you're just breathing.
That's it. That's it, basically.

Speaker 1 But also, like with AI, you can do a lot of different stuff, even like movements and stuff with the hands and shit.

Speaker 1 So it's, but in this kind of scenario, Azureline Azurlane has idle animations, this doesn't

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 but Azurelane again is it's a little bit different, yeah.

Speaker 1 Azurlane is the waifu game, I know about this. Okay, time for estimates time because there's no ads, so I'm gonna have my estimate time here instead.
So, zero in a year's time,

Speaker 1 will this game have

Speaker 1 made 200, 500, or billion dollars?

Speaker 1 Oh, in in years' time.

Speaker 1 We're already estimating.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think. I don't think it's.
I mean, let's look at it, right? There's a million in the first month, right? But these games can scale quite quickly. King's Choice is made to 200 million.

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 1 it's 200.

Speaker 1 This is still soft lunch. This is still soft lunch.
This is still soft. US and Indonesia.
That's it. This is still soft launch.
And I mean, we can play it in Slovakia.

Speaker 1 So it's worldwide, but it's not really running anything else. And also, Stan mentioned,

Speaker 1 they're still adjusting and optimizing.

Speaker 1 So it's not like the this is the real shit that is gonna go worldwide yet it's not there yet yeah by the way you can see this you can see this by one very specific uh kind of a point here and hint that if you go to the mall pretty much the shop it's still very light for the typical forex you don't see the typical kind of a plethora of 20 different apps 30 different progressions and battle passes

Speaker 1 yeah yeah it's just not there i think because they're just focusing on the gameplay retention and like everything.

Speaker 1 And mainly how their servers will probably look like because with Forex is all about the like within the server dynamics.

Speaker 1 So that's healthy still. Because for instance, guild system, I was trying to get into the guild and it like I literally needed to have IPO.

Speaker 1 I literally needed to get into like a a new one because they were fooling so fast that all they were just full. I literally had to like join a new one and it was immediately full in 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, this is still kind of what was this. I had no idea what that even means.
Okay, launch an IPO. I can't launch an IPO.
I'm too low. No, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And like the this whole like retheming of Forex, where everything is just like you raiding shopping malls and your girls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get to the chat. Where's the chat? Oh, here it is.

Speaker 1 Sure, it was a conversation where someone was talking means shit shit about you in the office. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not Evelyn. I think it was the spy girl.

Speaker 1 Did you talk with the spy girl? Yeah, I saw that. Like the espionage one.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Not this one. I think Victoria.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 Not this one. More underwear here.

Speaker 1 Sarah. I need to go.
Yeah, Sarah.

Speaker 1 Some employees are talking behind your back. Yeah, I'm so exhausted and can't really make much money.
Since we choose in this line of work, we have to go to put out the effort.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you a secret, but if you mustn't tell anyone else, only those who are involved in the unspoken rules with the boss get the chance to release new songs.

Speaker 1 I heard several employees in our company have been involved with the boss. Hmm, the boss doesn't seem like that kind of a person.
It might just be a rumor, right? You're too naive.

Speaker 1 Someone even secretly took photos in the bed. They plan to use them to blackmail the boss in the future.
That's terrifying. Wow, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 It's perfect. Yeah, there's more of this.

Speaker 1 Like, As a man being here, like we're all men, it's just like we're so simple-minded.

Speaker 1 And that's, that's what, that's what I, exactly, that's what I and it's just like exactly and that's it. That that's what it's made a million.
That's what I've made a million. That's what I meant.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I mentioned to Stan. Like,

Speaker 1 it's just attacking the very simple men kind of.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to call it. Yeah, exactly.
It's just a cool thing.

Speaker 1 And it works well because, yeah, exactly. That's all.
That's, that's it. That's it.
And also, I think,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's just again, like, I was, I was

Speaker 1 feeling very uncomfortable playing this fucking hell.

Speaker 1 It's going to work. It's going to work.

Speaker 1 In terms of the onboarding and everything, you know, like it all comes back to,

Speaker 1 you know, what we discussed a few episodes back, and also you remember all of the choices, episodes, and all of the different creatives. It's exactly what they're using as well now.

Speaker 1 And Real Short has that as well. And it's a combination of these things.
And yeah,

Speaker 1 if you kind of let me show a few things, then

Speaker 1 for creatives, I wonder what the creatives will be. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let me just finish the feature set so

Speaker 1 I can kind of get this. So, Street here is

Speaker 1 where the assistants just kind of. By the way, I really like that they have similar to Dark Survival, they have this like auto-automation button.

Speaker 1 Where if you, I don't know where was it, but I think she comes up with it herself. Somewhere between the boobs.

Speaker 1 Nah. That's everywhere.
No, no, no, not here.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 She literally tells you, like, if you can automate the things there and like switch the girls around so they're like, you know, generating the most money or whatever. So that's there.
This is the

Speaker 1 auto sign. In the recording.
In the recording, yeah.

Speaker 1 The skill tree, the dreaded giant skill tree in Forex was just reduced to this, which is like workout plan, overtime work, whatever, or something.

Speaker 1 I think that's just for now. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I would say because it's great that it's simplified, man. Like this whole soldier mechanic, I don't need to care about it.
I don't need to maintain this, maintain that.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to be able to do that. But wasn't that like the main point of Forex?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, it's not the main point. The main point are the battles and destroying other people's livelihoods.
That's the main point.

Speaker 1 Yes, but then you need to revive those soldiers and put them into hospital. Yeah, that's my thing.

Speaker 1 I'm really curious how did they do this? Because I don't know. And I know I destroyed one guy that wanted to attack me.
Probably I didn't upgrade my level. He told I'm weak and I was not.

Speaker 1 So I kick his ass, but still, like,

Speaker 1 fucked him, Yakuz.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, I'm not kidding you. Where was it? Of course you don't.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 where is the systems?

Speaker 1 Send favorite group report. Also, I like really how US is balanced with Indonesia for

Speaker 1 the servers.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, here it is.

Speaker 1 He was level 14. I was level 9, and he lost.

Speaker 1 But see,

Speaker 1 I had

Speaker 1 53k fans, he had only 20k, so he lost 40k.

Speaker 1 You just get the

Speaker 1 playing. Because of of Yakuza's

Speaker 1 LinkedIn posts.

Speaker 1 But see, this is again giant innovation because I lost like, what, like 600 fans, and that's it. They're just probably lost forever.
And that's it. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 They completely switched this dynamic from Forex, which is like bold innovation in the end. Even though we're talking about what they're talking about, it's still bold innovation that it can...

Speaker 1 do the thing that I think they're trying to do here, which is streamline this so much that again, for people that don't understand these nuances, they don't even know that it's gonna play for it.

Speaker 1 Never,

Speaker 1 yeah, they're just gonna streamline it so much. It's like, okay, so there's this map, whatever.
It's like 50% of the game, but whatever. But I'm, you know, yeah, exactly.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 I have the boots on the left. That's that's okay.
Yeah, I have the idol game on the right, and like the songs and AI videos, and like, here we go, as usual. So I think it could work.

Speaker 1 I don't see a problem. So they have the experience to do it.
So

Speaker 1 yeah, so there are the girls. There's the there's the gotcha somewhere there.
Where is it?

Speaker 1 Interview. Yeah, here it is.
The gacha with like SSR girl right there.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Yeah, we have the drop rates.

Speaker 1 Kind of, I would say, still acceptable, where like 1% for SSR is pretty high.

Speaker 1 Because it's very early on, I think. It's going to be.

Speaker 1 And also, it's not a lot of

Speaker 1 talks there.

Speaker 1 Then we have the studio, which is like the money generator that you need to do with these record labels and stuff like that as we talk there. Goes into the video.

Speaker 1 Then we have the idle mechanic, actually, not the one in the city, but the one here with the recording labels.

Speaker 1 Where actually you need to kind of, this is actually the source of the soldiers you see here.

Speaker 1 It's you actually select tracks here, like for one billion for one hour, and it will generate 800 soldiers for an hour. So I think this is the whole thing where they generate this.
Yeah, fans.

Speaker 1 Fans, not soldiers, and this is it, man. So I think, like, this genius, like, I want a normal Forex, forex, a normal like medieval fantasy, whatever, with these streamlined mechanics.

Speaker 1 I don't want to deal with like fucking 20, 40 currencies anymore. I want like this.
This just to me is much better, to be honest.

Speaker 1 Doesn't need to masquerade as waifu song management, CEO, simulator, whatever. It kind of does because

Speaker 1 it's all about the CPIs. It's all about,

Speaker 1 I know, I know. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I can dream, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so there's the radar, as usual. Like

Speaker 1 mechanics. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 There's this kind of a progression. Okay, no, I don't want this.

Speaker 1 Where yeah, the capture girls plan where just give you, I think those are pretty much those tutorial missions that you have with forex somewhere there on the bottom left, like typical one.

Speaker 1 Tour mechanic, which is again just gating mechanic with these mega concerts and everything.

Speaker 1 And sometimes there's some bullshit narrative that tells you, like, oh, boss, we have problems with this and that.

Speaker 1 Like, do you want to spend an exorbitant amount of money to give us even more comfort or not? Like, somewhere here, what's there?

Speaker 1 Oh, great.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? So, there's a date now.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 You can explain the game. He's trying to get a date with this one of his employees.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, sure. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then it increased the intimacy, which is the let's say the date mechanic with the girls, which you can unlock probably more power, like similar things afterwards.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So this goes and drags on.
Just start getting more and more text messages. Yeah, I hate to post this about this game on LinkedIn.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm already dreading it.
Oh, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 1 And then,

Speaker 1 yeah, the group mechanic is basically the typical alliance, like nothing new to it.

Speaker 1 Let's just do the fucking creatives. Like, enough.
Like,

Speaker 1 enough of this. I mean, honestly.

Speaker 1 Man, it's important to talk about the generations that's happening. It is, it is.
But it's just, you know, like, I wish this would be an end package.

Speaker 1 Man, this is where we end up here within the industry. This is what works, unfortunately.
And this is the state of the. I'm just describing it, not really going for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 1 it's going to work. That's the

Speaker 1 extremely sad. You know what I would really like? Do

Speaker 1 You know what I would really like?

Speaker 1 Like a simplified Forex like this with Klash of Clan steam. Because Supercell have the power to do that thing.
Like, go over it. Yeah, yeah.
Break the market. Like, break the Forex market.

Speaker 1 Do it like this way. Streamline the thing, make it much more approachable and more total to the rest of the audience.
Do it. Yeah.
No boobs.

Speaker 1 No boobs, please. I mean, it's enough.

Speaker 1 Okay, guys. Okay, let me just share the screen.
I mean, mean, basically, you saw all of it, almost.

Speaker 1 But what kind of is a problem with these US soft launches and 30-day windows is that there is only a handful of channels and not all of them are actually in

Speaker 1 the sensor tower. So I was talking to Stan, like, why do you have only Google? Is it because of the soft lounge or because of you you got banned on Facebook or like what's what's happening?

Speaker 1 I was was like, oh, no, we have Facebook. Huh.

Speaker 1 Okay, interesting. Then, uh,

Speaker 1 then, okay, I just went to

Speaker 1 obviously Facebook and started with this top girl search. And then I was like, oh, fucking hell, like, there's so many of these, but I didn't have the advertiser here.

Speaker 1 So I was like, oh my god, I'm never gonna find this.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, top girl, it's like basically novels, all novels and shit. It wasn't really this, but then I was like, oh, okay, I found it.

Speaker 1 I basically basically found, yeah, exactly, unique names. All the novels from China, Singapore, and then US as well, everything.
And I was like, okay, I found this in the

Speaker 1 Google, and then just got good here. Thank God.

Speaker 1 Through the fan page, which was good. But then, you know,

Speaker 1 you know what? Is this? I mean,

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 it's all about. I'm just realizing I'm going to have to ban this in all my clients.
Goddamn hours. You should, yeah, tomorrow.
You will.

Speaker 1 That's gonna be like

Speaker 1 three hours of work.

Speaker 1 At least, at least.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's all of it. This is just, you know, this is endless.
Look, it's just gonna be endless, like this, like hopping on the whatever ball was that.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it's it's gonna be all the all the ladies everywhere and just the latest trends. Basically, everything is AI-driven, animated, and then you have these choices basically, which is

Speaker 1 it's going back in time, basically. Oh, this look.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it's just gonna, it's going back in time, back in time when the episodes and choices were just running all of this, and even chapters.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, we know how it works, and then it's like one-minute-long video. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Look, this volleyball was just the best fucking

Speaker 1 fucking volleyball

Speaker 1 in the whole world. Okay, Never mind, okay.
So it's all of this, like this is nothing else, yeah. It's all kind of it's you see also here, it's adults only.

Speaker 1 If we've seen one creative, we've seen all of them basically.

Speaker 1 Let's say they have like a little bit different concept. Let's say the main background is always the same, which is AI generated scroll doing something, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then the concepts are a little bit different. Let's be honest.
Are they gonna have trouble getting scale?

Speaker 1 Machi, because a lot of people will ban this as soon as they get it, right?

Speaker 1 But like, what's what's wrong with this, this hook? I mean, this is adults only, so you're fine, of kind of fine. And then there's the lady with coffee and nothing else, right? So, I mean,

Speaker 1 kind of

Speaker 1 then it gets interesting, let's say.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's gonna get banned that much.

Speaker 1 By the way, if you go to if you go to Google Play, man, if you go to Google Play and you search Top Girl, it actually has Peggy 18 already slapped on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the rating 18 plus is already on the app itself,

Speaker 1 As it should be.

Speaker 1 It should, of course.

Speaker 1 The first one. Not that one.
The first one. This one.
Sure. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Peggy 18. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 4.6. It's just unlock the talent.
This is basically all AI stuff and everything is in the creation. Everything's AI.

Speaker 1 Everything is AI. And like, if you go, and I was kind of surprised.
I mean, yes, surprise, and not surprised because Google never bans anything, to be honest.

Speaker 1 So it's it's like it's even even with crypto or the rewarded UA, if you if you are kind of like um you have an app that is rewarding players or uh real money gaming, Google is always fine.

Speaker 1 Facebook is a problem, TikTok is a problem, but here is like so Facebook now is working well, I guess, also because of the adults only kind of um

Speaker 1 button here or whatever. Is it is it

Speaker 1 that's it, so yeah, it's

Speaker 1 whatever else we have.

Speaker 1 It made me even look on this creatives very uncomfortable as well. But what can we do? This is

Speaker 1 what's going to happen for again, like no Forex, nothing, it's just AI and then making decisions. And you know what is actually coming this towards? I'm going to share one thing

Speaker 1 because I was playing around with Mid Journey.

Speaker 1 You tried to see how much time it takes actually to create one of these creatives. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 I wanted to show you one

Speaker 1 thing,

Speaker 1 which like it comes down back to back to this person. You know who is this? Kind of almost.
Your Facebook guy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Johnny Sinny. That's not Johnny Cinn.

Speaker 1 It's not Johnny. It's not, because it's a lookalike.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's John Cenn. It's going to go back to this.

Speaker 1 This is going to happen. This is going to happen in the creatives afterwards because

Speaker 1 there's not going to be any other better match than this versus the game that they are promoting at the moment and those AI-driven creatives. So it's going to be poor stars and those creatives.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. And

Speaker 1 this is taking us to 2020 when I was using this. 2020 when I was using it.

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous, but that's going to work.

Speaker 1 That's what it comes down to now. It's gonna be definitely that combination.

Speaker 1 It's just these games with episodes and choices and chapters, they had their moment exactly like at that time because they had really low CPI with all these different creatives, which is basically this.

Speaker 1 So that's why I think it's working here quite a lot

Speaker 1 in terms of this.

Speaker 1 Keep that in mind. It was always

Speaker 1 the big difference here. Yes, I know.
So

Speaker 1 that's why this is the trend again. And what we talked about, uh, dark world, the dark war the last time, and the real short as well.

Speaker 1 Like, that was also real short, was one kind of innovation going from the 2D cartoony kind of style, art style to real people, and now from real people, it's gonna be AI

Speaker 1 as you see here. Yeah, it's just it's insane,

Speaker 1 it's insane, and then AI combined with the porn stars. Oh my god, that's a fucking terrible.
It's just,

Speaker 1 I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 to be honest. I never thought that by the end of this year we would be already reviewing games that are doing everything with AI.
And I mean, like, not just like, oh, it's a random game.

Speaker 1 This is a no, no, no. We're talking about a big forex company doing a big game that's just still in soft slunge, but like everything is driven by AI.
Everything is generated. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. You just can't watch that creative again.
We've seen it like four times. Okay, yeah, it's the same thing.
It's the same thing also.

Speaker 1 And you can see, by the way, it's still not really that perfect itself. Like, you can still spot so many morphological problems that the AI does, but nobody cares.
Nobody cares. Exactly.

Speaker 1 It doesn't really. You've seen the picture that was just fucking everywhere.
Like, how can I spot the AI image?

Speaker 1 And there was like these little circles around, and then the waitresses had like instead of hands, there was feet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, nobody cares.

Speaker 1 Nobody really cares. And it's working.
We saw the Dark War.

Speaker 1 I'm actually going to post this

Speaker 1 detective work on Creatives on Friday. So everybody should check it because

Speaker 1 people are just doing this all over the whole kind of gaming industry. Obviously, starting with Forex, but it's everywhere.

Speaker 1 I just created one amazing video for One Merge game, which is combining like all three, like different three trends, like the AI, the text that I mentioned on the Dark War, and then

Speaker 1 AI UGC,

Speaker 1 it's beautiful. It's and really like delivers the message.
It's obviously not like half-naked women,

Speaker 1 which is the

Speaker 1 other side of the coin, unfortunately. But yeah, that's where it comes, where it's going.

Speaker 1 Can we not do a Forex game now for at least a couple of months? Because

Speaker 1 I would like to, but there is so many of them which are so interesting.

Speaker 1 There's one other that I definitely want to do later later down the line. You know which one, but we'll do that one.

Speaker 1 How about that? How about that?

Speaker 1 Let's see. Let's see.

Speaker 1 If we can manage the end of the year without the forex, I don't think so. I don't think so.
I don't think so. Let's see.

Speaker 1 But that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Forex is the world drives the innovation, man. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 Because it's coming from China. People here in the West, like, they just, you know, sleeping, I guess, four days a week

Speaker 1 and then bye.

Speaker 1 Anyway, it's, yeah, this is the innovation. And we discussed it last time.
It's gonna be in all of the other uh genres as well.

Speaker 1 Especially, it's coming to match free, absolutely. And I'm pretty sure

Speaker 1 Q1 player is gonna have all of this AI-driven bullshit in the game or in the creatives.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure. Anyway, brave new world.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Efficient world. Efficient world.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's that's how it is.

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