242: Unique Experiences..

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Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Michaela! Sometimes you hear a story and just think "well that's a unique experience.." aka something so far fetch, unbelievable, and cringey that you question how this person is even telling the tale!! Well we got a few of those stories this week.. from a cat prank to soap use gone wrong BUCKLE UP my friends!

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Speaker 3 Is that recording even also? It is.

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Speaker 3 You're not going to get us this time. Not taking any chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.
I've like technology.

Speaker 1 Ever since Kaelin's little haunted monkey came here, here I've had some technology glitches ever since Kaylin's little haunted monkey came here yeah Kaelin has a haunted monkey named Gordy okay and she made a joke and she's like he just like is really weird around technology and ever since then I've had like weird tech issues and I'm just like it's that damn monkey gordy gordy why did he do is he gone now Yeah, yeah, he's gone.

Speaker 3 But he left his mark.

Speaker 1 He went back to their house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We talked about him a little bit on the spooky episode.
and she brought him into her house. And then

Speaker 1 she heard like running around upstairs. And she's like, oh, my dog must have got out of his kennel.
Dog was in the kennel. Like it was the monkey.

Speaker 3 That's so funny. Also, then to bring the little monkey here.
Like, hey, this is my little monkey that fucks everything up.

Speaker 1 She loves that spooky shit. She's so into it.
She wants to go to all the haunted houses. I've decided I can do a haunted house if I do it as like a THT meetup.

Speaker 1 If there's like 20 of us, then my odds of the ghost going home with me are a lot better.

Speaker 3 Going home with you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 At the haunted house? I don't want anything to attach to me.

Speaker 3 But at the haunted houses, like, isn't that all man-made stuff?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. I'm talking like the real spooky places.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's not for me. That's not for me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to give it a go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to give it a go. But I'm going to have you there with me.

Speaker 3 It's over. It is.
It's time for great cheer and merry. Well, that is not what we have on this episode.

Speaker 1 So maybe next week we'll circle back to to Merry and Cheerful. I am going to do like a crazy holiday episode and do like bad, horrible, horrendous family.
Yeah. Happy, feel good, Christmas.

Speaker 1 Bad, horrible. Ooh, feel okay Christmas.
Okay. So that's my

Speaker 1 sandwich.

Speaker 3 I love that. I love it when we get both.

Speaker 1 A little best of both worlds.

Speaker 3 We had like a really... sad or scary or bad episode one time.
Well, the episode wasn't bad. Like the stories.
And then you ended it with like a really happy one.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh my god that's just changed everything I'm gonna walk out here a happy woman that's what we we aim to kind of please over here but today's episode really wild Michaela came up with this theme of unique experiences

Speaker 1 just experiences that are unusual and out of the realm and kind of like wow thought I've heard it all, but that's still a little unique.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel like it started on Twitter of like, nobody's ever had an entirely unique unique experience.

Speaker 3 And then sometimes you hear a story where you're like, maybe that is an entirely unique experience or like a sentence that you're like, oh, that's never been said before.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You'll see it in the comments on TikTok videos where you're like, oh my God, finally a unique experience.
And it's just the most like insane situation.

Speaker 1 So I don't want to hype them up too much in case you guys are like, yeah, no, they suck. But I think they should be pretty good.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And if you can actually relate to one of these experiences that we think should be a unique experience, let us know because I'm, I'm very curious.

Speaker 1 And put yours in the comments. Yes, I love seeing the personal ones.
If you have a personal one and you're like, Okay, I'll throw it out there now.

Speaker 1 Like, your, I don't know, your boyfriend ended up hooking up with your brother at a bar in Ireland. I don't, I don't know, something crazy.

Speaker 3 That can't be unique. That's definitely happened to at least 20 people.

Speaker 1 20? I guess out of the billion, 8 billion or whatever we're at. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 But put in the comments. And without further ado, let's dive in.

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Speaker 1 This is coming from Ask a Manager, which is like this blog website where you can write into this manager, Allison, who's just like HR manager expert, and she'll give you a response back.

Speaker 1 So, this is actually coming from there.

Speaker 1 And the title is, My coworker asked me to pose topless for an anatomy textbook. Okay.

Speaker 1 I work part-time in a small sales office of about 10 people. About a month ago, one of my coworkers approached me about doing a project for his graduate program at a local university.

Speaker 1 It was for some sort of anatomy textbook or similar. It would be a photo of my breasts with my face not in the photo for the textbook.
I would be compensated for the photos.

Speaker 1 There were some red flags in his proposition. The photos would be taken by him in my home, and he never presented me with official paperwork about it.

Speaker 1 I called the university, and they assured me that whatever project he was working on was not through their university, as there would have been extensive paperwork, screening, photos professionally taken, etc.

Speaker 1 Which was what I had figured in the first place, particularly for such a large university and for a master's program. My question is, is this a matter that I should bring up to my boss?

Speaker 1 Is this something that she needs to know about?

Speaker 3 Yes, yes, your boss needs to know about that.

Speaker 3 This is such an elaborate plan to just get pictures of a woman's boobs. Like, oh my gosh.
Sir. It's for an anatomy textbook.
Come on. Okay, then where's the studio?

Speaker 3 Where's a professional photographer? Like, why would you choose me? Why, like, why would this not go through some kind of blind, like, audition?

Speaker 3 I don't, like, I don't know how you actually choose a model for a textbook, but it's not that coworker is someone I'd like to to see the boobs of.

Speaker 1 I feel like people sign up to be models. Yeah.
Like they put themselves out there or go to casting calls. It's not like totally.

Speaker 1 Oh, this random person I work with in my small sales office of 10 people also has a job shooting for anatomy textbooks. Right.
Like textbooks are professionally done.

Speaker 1 Like I wouldn't imagine that whoever's doing the textbook is like an actual professional photographer. Not like, not like this is some side gig.

Speaker 3 And it wouldn't be at your house.

Speaker 1 It would be at your house.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 No, this is so weird. Like either way, even if he did have a textbook that he was shooting for, it is still inappropriate to ask your coworker.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ask,

Speaker 1 ask anyone else. Put out an open casting call as you're meant to do it.
By asking your coworker, I think it's even creepier because it also illustrates. He's been checking her out.

Speaker 1 He's creating this elaborate excuse in order to see her boobs.

Speaker 3 Yes. And it's like, okay, so you have a textbook of you're going to shoot someone's breasts.
And then you're thinking, oh, who would be perfect for this? Oh, that woman I work with.

Speaker 3 She would be perfect. Like, why are you thinking of me that way?

Speaker 1 He just wants to see her boobs. He's been like checking her out for how many months of them working together.
And now he's like, oh. This is a great, this is, this is my inn.

Speaker 1 I'm going to create this elaborate story about a textbook. And then I'm going to say, let's shoot it at your house so I know where she lives.

Speaker 3 How did he even? Oh, yeah, at her house. Like, that's so dangerous.
He, she definitely needs to tell the manager. HR needs to know stat because this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 And then, yeah, the university being like, That's not even a thing. Last straw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the university program.

Speaker 3 If they're moving it, if there were even more straws to be had, that's the last straw.

Speaker 1 I think, yeah, Camel's back is already broken. So, on the original thread with Allison, here is her response back.

Speaker 1 And it was kind of like directed towards like, my question is this? Is this a matter that I should bring up to my boss? Is this something that she needs to know?

Speaker 1 And Allison goes, whoa, yes, absolutely. Today.
Your coworker is trying to prey on colleagues to take topless photos of them under false pretenses. Tell your boss, tell HR, tell other women.

Speaker 1 Frankly, even if his story were true, which it's not, it would have been really inappropriate for him to approach you, a co-worker, about this. That's not how anatomy photos and textbooks work.

Speaker 1 This guy is a creep, and your employer needs to know.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a thousand percent. And I wonder if when she called the university, if the university was also like, ugh, like, like, did they have any internal conversations about that?

Speaker 1 I don't know, because who knows if he's even a student there.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 1 I don't understand.

Speaker 3 He's a busy guy. He's got a lot going on.

Speaker 1 And that's, yeah, I do not understand this dude's history.

Speaker 3 He's getting a master's, was it? His master's program?

Speaker 1 Apparently. And he works in a sales office.
And is making a textbook as part of the master's program?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 It's very fishy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We do get an update. Ooh.

Speaker 1 This is coming 11 days later, and OP says this. I have to admit that I didn't wait until I read your reply.

Speaker 1 I wrote the email to you on a night when both my boss and the coworker in question were not in the office, but my boss was in the next day, and I went in early and told her everything.

Speaker 1 The coworker in question was immediately terminated. I wrote a report for HR, so he is considered non-rehirable for any future campaigns.
His desk was packed while I was writing my report to HR.

Speaker 1 And by the time I returned to the floor, someone else had even taken his desk. Wow.
They moved fast.

Speaker 1 I love this response. I know.
I love this response. It was kind of emotionally taxing for me to respond to comments, so I didn't, but I did read most of them.

Speaker 1 Our office is incredibly lax compared to most people's, I would imagine. And my background is mostly in food service.

Speaker 1 So I was honestly very surprised at how many people had chimed in with, this is incredibly inappropriate of your coworker to approach you about.

Speaker 1 I think when one is used to inappropriate work environments, these sort of interactions don't expressly present themselves as immediately inappropriate, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I, I mean, that does make sense.

Speaker 3 I think it's very normal to like wonder if you're overreacting when you're the one in the situation. And it's a lot easier to be like, no, that's crazy and not okay when you are not in that situation.

Speaker 3 I mean, I've definitely had, like, when she says that, I think of my jobs in like nightlife food service too. Like, I did bottle service.

Speaker 3 Like, the people the people I worked with made comments all of it. Cause like it's about like how you look to some extent.

Speaker 3 So obviously there's like like not really as much of a line there about comments people make about you.

Speaker 3 But then it's still like, even in a situation like that, there are things that are like, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's easy to just like question it when you're in it.
You're like, yeah, whatever. I'm used to it.
Or it's not that weird. Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 You kind of just like convince yourself because also you need to work.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 1 She does go on to say, in regards to a certain comment thread, yes, I was concerned about retaliation. This coworker was not only a former Marine, but a knife fighting instructor.

Speaker 1 What the?

Speaker 1 Sorry. This makes no sense.
Why?

Speaker 3 Completely unique experience.

Speaker 1 Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 But as other people have commented, I think women in general are concerned about retaliation in our everyday lives, not just when someone we know is harassing us.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, this clown couldn't even put any damn effort into making his sleazy scheme smack of the official.

Speaker 1 So I think he is not likely to put any extra effort into tracking me down over his part-time job. But I am walking accompanied to transit every night regardless.
Thanks so much for your advice.

Speaker 1 I do really appreciate it, and I appreciate everyone's comments. I hope that anyone who reads your site knows that they should feel comfortable reporting harassment when they experience it.

Speaker 1 I am grateful that in this case, things were dealt with very swiftly and justly because I know that isn't always the case.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, hey, if any of you have had a knife fighting instructor who's in a master's program and works with you tell you they'd like to take pictures of you topless for their anatomy textbook.

Speaker 3 Let us know, you know, if you know a friend who's that's happened to, if you know, like, hey, hit us up because

Speaker 3 I'm curious. There's no way.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Well, it's also like, okay, I,

Speaker 1 when people start lying about stuff, then I'm like, I don't believe anything. I'm like, was he a Marine? Was he a knife fighting instructor?

Speaker 1 Is that like a common thing?

Speaker 3 I've, well, I've certainly never heard of it, but they got to be out there.

Speaker 1 Andy's a photographer for anatomy textbooks. No, Andy's getting his master's.
And he works here.

Speaker 3 I think he's not a photographer for an well, he's definitely not a photographer for an anatomy textbook, but I think

Speaker 3 he was maybe saying he was making an anatomy textbook as part of his master's program.

Speaker 1 Hmm. But then I'm like, is he even in a master's program?

Speaker 3 No, I don't know. And also, yeah, maybe he was lying about being a knife fighting instructor because that sounds like a, ooh, I'm a knife fighting instructor.
You don't want to mess with me.

Speaker 1 It does. It sounds fake.
But like, we're going to have knife fighting instructors out there be like, it's a real job, Morgan.

Speaker 3 Well, it probably is. And I could see

Speaker 3 someone who is a Marine go into that. But where does he find the time?

Speaker 1 A lot of things going on. Where does he find the time? A lot of things going on.

Speaker 3 Well, he's got more time now. He lost his job.

Speaker 1 He did. He did lose that job.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, he stays away from that job. And the women's OP alone.

Speaker 3 He doesn't want to work there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just don't know why. There needs to be better social skills for people.
They need to stop men.

Speaker 1 They need to stop falling into like toxic online rhetoric.

Speaker 1 Cause it's like, if you were just like a decent guy and like you want to see some boobs, if you just kindly asked people to go on dates and started to, you know, maybe get interested in someone and courted them, you could see boobs probably a lot easier than this.

Speaker 1 Sure, sure.

Speaker 3 But you don't get to just see whoever's boobs you want to see. That, like, that's just not how it works.
And that is not the case. You can see boobs,

Speaker 3 but you either have to look them up or, you know, get into a relationship with somebody or have a consensual experience with somebody where you're both signing up for an experience that you are aware is the experience you're having instead of a fake experience.

Speaker 3 You can conject it, can conject it, can

Speaker 3 create it.

Speaker 1 Something like that. Something like that.
Uh-huh. Okay, moving on on your next call.
Oh,

Speaker 1 there you go.

Speaker 1 This next one we have is coming from the Ask Aubrey Instagram account. I actually have two coming from her.

Speaker 1 I've since tried to find both of them on Reddit. I cannot.
So I don't know where Ask Aubrey is finding them.

Speaker 1 There's one I've seen on her page that I was able to go find, and it's on the Two I Take sub Reddit.

Speaker 1 I think because I'm a moderator, like I can see any post and also it hasn't been been removed from my sub.

Speaker 1 But I think on the other stories I have from her, I think they were removed from whatever sub they were posted in.

Speaker 3 It's so hard to find posts on Reddit. If like I, that happens to be on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you send me one from Twitter.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like I'll find a post, like a Reddit post on Twitter and then I'll try to actually find it on Reddit and it's like impossible somehow.

Speaker 1 I know. If you don't catch it quick enough and it gets removed,

Speaker 1 there's really no way of getting it back. Like you'll have the screenshots and you'll be able to see, but for this one and the next one, we obviously won't have any comments.
Wow.

Speaker 3 Yeah. But there's Instagram comments.

Speaker 1 We do. We have some Instagram comments.
We can read those. That'll kind of maybe satiate our craving for a comment.
Okay. Here is the first one.

Speaker 1 My boyfriend's joke at dinner made me realize he's been lying about his job for eight months. I, 27 female, have been dating Ryan, 29 male, for about a year and a half.

Speaker 1 He told me from the start that he works in pharmaceutical sales, makes decent money, travels sometimes for conferences, the whole thing. I never had a reason to question it.

Speaker 1 Last night, we went to dinner with my parents in Austin, where I'm from.

Speaker 1 My dad, 61 male, is a retired pharmacist, and he was asking Ryan about his work, which pharma company, what drugs he specializes in, that kind of thing. Normal conversation.

Speaker 1 Ryan got really vague, like weirdly vague, kept redirecting. When my dad asked what his territory was, and Ryan said, quote, oh, you know, central region mostly.

Speaker 1 And my dad was like, so Oklahoma, Kansas. And Ryan literally said, quote, yeah, and other places.
It's pretty fluid. Then my dad mentioned some new medication that just got approved.

Speaker 1 And Ryan had no idea what he was talking about. My dad looked confused, but moved on.
Here's where it got weird. We're in the car after, and I'm like, quote, that was awkward.

Speaker 1 You seemed really uncomfortable. And Ryan laughs and goes, yeah, your dad almost caught me.
I was like, what?

Speaker 1 And he says, I don't actually work in pharma sales, babe. I'm a grocery store manager.
I manage the whole foods on Lamar.

Speaker 1 I literally just stared at him. He kept talking like this was funny, said he told me pharma sales when we first met because it sounded better.

Speaker 1 And then it became this thing where he couldn't figure out how to tell me the truth. So he just kept going with it.
Eight months. He's been lying for eight months since like March.

Speaker 1 I asked why he lied about traveling for conferences, and he said he was actually doing training sessions for new hires at other Whole Foods locations. The late nights were just him closing the store.

Speaker 1 He genuinely seemed to think this was like a cute confession, like I'd laugh about it. He was smiling and said, come on, it's not that big of a deal.
I still make good money.

Speaker 1 I told him to take me home and I haven't really talked to him since last night. He's been texting, saying I'm overreacting, and it was just small lies that got out of hand.

Speaker 1 My best friend says I should dump him immediately. My sister thinks I should hear him out because everyone lies a little when dating.
But I keep thinking, what else has he lied about?

Speaker 1 And why did he think pharmaceutical sales sounded better than store manager? There's nothing wrong with managing a grocery store. The lying is what's weird.
Am I overreacting?

Speaker 1 Or is this as big of a red flag as it feels?

Speaker 3 This is a crazy red flag. And also, like, the way that he confessed to it is crazy.

Speaker 1 Oh, he almost caught me. Ha ha.
Like, she's in on the joke. Yeah.
She has no idea.

Speaker 3 Like, you're about to tell me something that, like, completely changes. Like, now I have to think about, yeah, the late nights that you had and the conferences you went to.

Speaker 3 Like, this isn't just some small little thing. And for someone to be able to have such an elaborate lie to you for eight months.

Speaker 3 It would still be bad if he apologized and was like, okay, I have to tell you something. Like, this has gotten out of hand.
And I'm so sorry for misleading you.

Speaker 3 Even if he'd had like a very genuine real apology like that, it still would be concerning, but he didn't even do that.

Speaker 1 He didn't. No, that's a really good point.

Speaker 3 I don't like this.

Speaker 3 Like, I, I do think that lying is like to this extent, it's something that with practice, you get better at and you get more comfortable with it and you feel less bad about doing it and you feel like it's less of a big deal.

Speaker 3 And for him to be like so just in the zone with this, it does concern me for the future.

Speaker 1 It really does because for me, I look at this and it's like, I think the response really shows something scary.

Speaker 1 It just feels like really manipulative and not necessarily gaslighting in that way, but it feels like such a toxic thing where it's just like, oh, he almost caught me. Haha.
Not that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just, I don't know, it's a small thing, small thing, babe.
The response is concerning. But beyond that, he lied not once, not twice.
He has been lying consistently for months.

Speaker 1 They've been together a year and a half. She said like, he's been lying about this for eight months.
So I don't know if this was a new job that he then was lying about. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But he's lied to you multiple times. Oh, I'm working late tonight.
Got to take a doctor out to dinner. Yeah.
He's at the store. So if he's so comfortable lying again and again and again to you,

Speaker 1 he's going to keep lying. I also think it's just like, how do you trust anything going forward? Yeah.
When he's like, yeah, I'm going out to dinner with some buddies.

Speaker 1 How do I know that? You were so easily and capable of lying in the past about everything

Speaker 1 that like, I don't have any faith or trust in you now. Yeah.
Like you would never have trust issues. Yeah.
And it's like, he's clearly able to hide shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I just think someone like this, that's so deceptive, you can't be with, like. He needs to go start fresh with someone else.
It's not you. This is absolutely crazy to lie like this for so long.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I think you touched on this with the gaslighting thing.

Speaker 3 I always like the way that people fight or the way people confess things or like the way that they show up to tough conversations, I think says a lot.

Speaker 3 And this gives me the impression that like when he does something wrong, he will always minimize it. He will always laugh it off.

Speaker 3 He'll always act like you're overreacting, like you're crazy for feeling the way you do. And

Speaker 3 I don't like. how that will continue to show up in everything that they have in the future.
I mean, they're only a year and a half in.

Speaker 3 Like, sometimes these things don't even show up for the first year and a half. Like, I'm I'm at you have kids one day, you get married one day, like all of these different things happen.

Speaker 3 And now the stakes are higher and he's still like minimizing his wrongdoings and acting like you're crazy. You lied for eight months about your job.
My dad has the job that you're lying about having.

Speaker 3 Like that also puts her in an uncomfortable position because now she has to tell her family. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Her dad's a pharmacist. He's an old pharmacist.
Like out of all the jobs you could have picked, why that one? I also wonder if that had something to do with her dad being a pharmacist.

Speaker 1 If he was like trying to impress her, because it's like, your dad's a pharmacist. Hey, I'm a drug rep.
Like, yeah.

Speaker 3 It was either that or it was his nightmare scenario of, oh, shit, her dad is what I'm pretending to be. And now I'm going to have to like lie harder.

Speaker 1 So weird. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 break up with him.

Speaker 3 It's scary.

Speaker 1 The top comment on the Instagram post. And when she does dump him for lying and being untrustworthy, he'll be like, I can't believe she dumped me because I work at Whole Foods.
Yep.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's not that. It's quite literally not that.

Speaker 3 These freaking gold diggers, man.

Speaker 1 She wouldn't have cared.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You lied repeatedly again and again. Not just one lie, but dozens.
Maybe hundreds.

Speaker 1 If you've been together that long and you have enough trading and working late that many times, like it could be hundreds of lies.

Speaker 3 It's so true. He might take that as the lesson from this if she dumps him, like, oh, it was because of my job and not because of all of these extremely valid red flags and things that he did wrong.

Speaker 1 He is completely untrustworthy. There's no integrity there.
There's no sense of ever being able to have faith in him going forward to tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 Like, I also think at a bare minimum too, I don't think he respects you. If he's willing to lie to you like that again and again and again, I don't think someone like that respects you

Speaker 1 and without respect in a relationship like

Speaker 1 you're a mat they'll walk over yeah like they'll do whatever they want to do to get their way and make sure that their self is served especially if they've already gotten away with something like this and you're fine with it it's crazy dude this is crazy the more i'm like just i hate when people lie like this like i understand

Speaker 3 being insecure about a job and like the urge to buff it up and you know make yourself sound more impressive but like again lying to a woman lying to anybody about what you do for work so that they will sleep with you and date you like that already is not okay

Speaker 3 even if it just happens once like for a one-night stand it's still like you're misrepresenting who you are and lying about your identity so to do that for eight months yeah yeah it just yeah i hate it Did I reply to any?

Speaker 1 Hate it. Oh, it's nope.
No, we got no replies. Wow.

Speaker 1 we don't know what's happening any other comments that are speaking to you nothing that's uh worth writing home about i mean people are just like yeah he's untrustworthy he lied about something so unnecessary to lie about in the first place and then maintained that lie for over a year

Speaker 3 you seeing anyone else take the other other viewpoint no wow okay i like to see it we're in agreement I love it when we're in agreement. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Sometimes I have an opinion and then I hear what the actual thoughts are and I shocked Pikachu face. I'm like, I can't imagine.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 I know. I always get a little concerned for humanity based on some of the votes on some of the posts, but then I'm like,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Everyone's responding with their own experiences and teach, you know, do your own thing.
Yeah. But moving on to this next one, story number three for us.

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Speaker 1 Okay, this next one,

Speaker 1 oh, it's just like it might make you lose a little in humanity, but

Speaker 1 it's a story that's important to read, I think. You know, you could all take something away from it.
Oh, wow. Okay.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 This is coming from r/slash relationship advice. It's titled, My 18 Female Boyfriend and His Friends, 18, 19 Male, Played a Viciously Cruel Prank on an Older Couple who Lost Their Cat.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I'm breaking up with him, but what else can I do to make this right?

Speaker 3 When it's like an older couple, I just like, that's where I get too upset.

Speaker 1 I've been with my boyfriend for about a year. We are both honors students who are graduating in about a month.

Speaker 1 He's a good guy, and we were going to try to make it work, even though we are going to different out-of-state schools.

Speaker 1 However, he has a group of friends, and when he's with them, he does very stupid things. He was out with them last night and called me and told me he was at Purple Heart Park.

Speaker 1 And if I wanted to come, I could come and see them. I live about a block away in Rita, so I told my parents and they were fine with me going.
When I got there, they were like rolling on the ground.

Speaker 1 They were laughing so hard. I asked them what was so funny and they wouldn't say.
Then one pointed to an older couple who was walking around with a flashlight calling the obvious name of a pet.

Speaker 1 I could not figure out what was so funny about that, but as the couple came closer to to us, they said we needed to leave. When we got into my boyfriend's car, they absolutely lost it with laughter.

Speaker 1 I asked them what happened, and maybe 30 minutes prior, one of them had spotted a missing cat poster and called the number and lied and told the owner that they had spotted the cat in Purple Heart Park.

Speaker 1 I instantly knew the posters since one was on our mailbox and they had been there for maybe six weeks. In Tucson, we know when a cat is gone that long, a coyote had gotten it.
I wanted to throw up.

Speaker 1 This was so cruel to do to those poor people, to give them hope like that. I demanded to be taken home that second and he did.

Speaker 1 I didn't say a word to any of them and I hate that I even know this happened. I'm going to break up with him, but what can or should I do to make this up to the poor couple who is missing the cat?

Speaker 1 I'm devastated with guilt that I know something about it, but don't know what I should do.

Speaker 1 I can't ask my parents because I'm afraid my dad will actually beat the crap out of them and risk losing his job. He's such an animal lover.

Speaker 1 This,

Speaker 1 I,

Speaker 3 this is so fucked up.

Speaker 3 To get that much enjoyment out of it and to like think it's so funny and awesome that this poor older couple is searching through the park at night with flashlights because they think that their cats there and like they've been putting the flyers everywhere.

Speaker 3 Like, she even found Flyer Ford in her mailbox. Like, it's, they've been trying so hard, and this is so mean.

Speaker 1 It's so mean.

Speaker 1 Six weeks to like a month and a half of your pet being gone. Like, that is just cruel and devastating.
And to like toy with them like that,

Speaker 1 it's psychological abuse. Like, it, it, it really is.
Like, when you are knowingly subjecting someone to like that false hope and like fucking with them like that. That's that's really messed up.

Speaker 1 Like it's really speaking to deranged

Speaker 1 men. Like because they're 18 and 19.
They're about to go off into the world on their own. Like these are not just kids.

Speaker 1 Like these are people that really don't have a moral compass and need to find the light quickly because this is this is shitty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's hard.

Speaker 3 Go ahead. I was just going to say with like her question at the end, initially I was like, I don't know if there's anything she can do

Speaker 3 but then also when I thought about it more I was like she probably does need to tell them that this was like a prank call because

Speaker 3 if they have this idea that like yeah, they could be out late at night like searching for the cat like really trying to look in that area more like renewing their efforts and it's like all just because of a lie and like a joke.

Speaker 3 I think it's probably the right thing to do to tell them. But yeah.
Like, damn, that's got to also like for them, their faith in humanity is going to be shattered after that.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 And it sucks because it's like, that's not OP's job to have to do that, but it is kind of one of those, like, it would just be a nice caring gesture to be like, hey, like, I, and I would just like remove yourself from it.

Speaker 1 I'd almost just be like, hey, I heard some kids talking at school that like they prank called you guys.

Speaker 1 Um, I'm really sorry. Like, I don't think they saw your cat.

Speaker 1 Like based on what they were saying about this prank. Yeah.
And just remove yourself. You don't have to say my boyfriend, like, but like, I think you could definitely tell them.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And you can offer like next time you look, I can go with you.
I mean, if you really want to do something to like try to make it up for them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Maybe this is the start of a beautiful friendship.

Speaker 1 Who knows?

Speaker 3 But yeah, it's not OP's responsibility. I think just sharing that information with them so that they're not doing more sleepless nights looking for this cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Top comment on this one. To back you up, I can truthfully say there is no way I could continue seeing someone who not only did something like this, but laughed and laughed about it afterwards.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. No wonder you are so upset.
I feel for you and wish you and the cat owners all the best.

Speaker 3 The laughing about it and the amount of enjoyment they got out of it is definitely the worst part in my mind. It's like it's the enjoyment of someone suffering.

Speaker 3 And even if it wasn't the boyfriend's like idea and he just went along with it, it's like, okay, so you're just like a follower to like anything, any awful thing people say.

Speaker 3 That's like, ew, I don't want to be with someone who's like a weak-willed, no backbone asshole. Like you're an asshole and you're weak.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's not looking good for you.

Speaker 3 Yeah. My guy.

Speaker 1 So we do get an update. Wait.
We get an update. So I posted the original on Sunday morning after it all happened.
and here it is.

Speaker 1 So basically, breaking up with my boyfriend was an easy decision, and I did it over text. He said that, like, after a year, he deserved better than a text breakup.

Speaker 1 I said, after what I saw him do on Saturday night, he really didn't. He tried to say that the prank was not his idea, and I really needed to cut him some slack.

Speaker 1 I said that maybe it wasn't his idea, but I saw him laughing just as hard as his friends. And that was enough for me.

Speaker 1 He's been a total shit at school, but it started turning on him bad when I explained to people why we broke up and who he was with, a guy who graduated last year who's a creep.

Speaker 1 What was harder is what I should do with the people.

Speaker 1 I had two choices as I saw it, either not call and let them have false hope the cat was still alive, or call and let them know they had been pranked.

Speaker 1 Basically, after thinking about it all day, I decided that if it were my dog in question, I'd want all the info I could get.

Speaker 1 I was so nervous calling them, but the lady answered and I think I said I had some information about their lost cat.

Speaker 1 She basically stopped me and said that it was a miracle, but their cat had been turned in to Pima County Animal Control two days prior and they finally gotten a return on the chip and they called them that very morning and they had just gotten the cat home.

Speaker 1 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 I was so relieved because I didn't have to tell them some awful news about how my boyfriend was a piece piece of

Speaker 1 i was also happy for her because she seemed so happy i told her i was very happy her cat was home and said goodbye so that's like really good news and i'm happy to get rid of my idiot boyfriend oh my god i didn't expect a happy ending to this

Speaker 3 ila's here tearing up i like i because i thought there's no way they're ever gonna find the cat so the only two things that can happen here is either you know they tell them it was a prank or they let them have false hope like she said.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And this secret third option, like, are you kidding? Thank God.

Speaker 1 Find door number three.

Speaker 3 My faith is back. Things can be okay.

Speaker 1 I know. Really

Speaker 1 good ending. And

Speaker 1 hopefully, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend wakes up, gets his shit together. I mean,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's pretty, okay.

Speaker 3 It's pretty irredeemable, but

Speaker 3 maybe

Speaker 3 there are some 18-year-olds who still have the potential potential to grow and become better people.

Speaker 3 And I think a lot of people in this world

Speaker 3 do something

Speaker 1 that they maybe spend the rest of their lives feeling bad about.

Speaker 3 Like they say something or they, you know, act in a petty way that like just wasn't necessary, or whatever. And then they're, and maybe he'll grow a conscience after this.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think so.
It's possible. I think like if you got dumped over something like this, I hope it doesn't push him the other way where he's then resentful and sneakier and whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, I hope this is like a, oh, yeah, no, this was shitty. Yeah.
There's consequences. And hopefully he learns.
I mean, he's young, 18, 19, however old, but like,

Speaker 1 you got to grow up at some point. Yeah.
We do all have to learn empathy.

Speaker 3 Like it is a learned thing over time of like, okay, I'm not. the center of the universe.
Like just because I'm living in my head doesn't mean everyone else isn't living in their heads too, you know?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 3 for some people, it's a slower experience, I think. So I'm more lenient now because the cat's okay and it was returned.

Speaker 1 I'm like, still definitely stayed broken up. Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 But I'm like, maybe this guy has, there's a chance. There's one chance there.
He could be a better person. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
It is interesting. That's like a conversation we've had quite a bit on this podcast is like, is empathy something you can learn? Like, are we just born empathetic?

Speaker 1 Like, there are some people that I think like they just will never get get empathy. And I think that's just the way their brain is.
Something's not firing in a part of their brain. I don't know.

Speaker 1 But like, I do think

Speaker 1 you can also

Speaker 1 learn how to increase your empathy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think, I mean, I remember being some kind of age in the teens and like.

Speaker 3 understanding for the first time that like other people's perspectives are because they've had completely unique experiences from mine. And like, you know, like, I think you start to understand

Speaker 3 other people more and more and more. But I do think also, you know, children are often very kind and like sweet and understand like, hey, that hurt mommy.
And like they learn that lesson pretty young.

Speaker 3 They like hit mommy and it hurts or something. But yeah, I think you see this a lot with teenagers.
And even though 18 is technically an adult, it's like,

Speaker 3 there's sometimes 18 year olds aren't really adults.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, there's guys in my life that like were very immature for their age and they were, they were like two years behind what their actual age was just because of school.

Speaker 1 And, you know, they were in a different grade than what their age was supposed to like put them in eight, like grade-wise or whatever that is.

Speaker 1 So I think like everyone can mature at different rates, but like, oh, these are the moments, though, that like could, could make that younger. 100%.
This is the fork in the road. So

Speaker 1 hopefully he takes takes the right path. But moving on to this next one.

Speaker 3 Very nice of us, very generous of us to

Speaker 3 give them a little bit of hope there.

Speaker 1 If that cat wouldn't have been okay, I would have been driving to Tucson and hitting someone with the bat, but cat's okay. So

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Speaker 1 Okay, so this is the other one coming from Ask Aubrey.

Speaker 1 And again, we won't have any comments from OP. O-P because that's just, we don't have it.

Speaker 1 But it is an interesting one. And I think it's worth a read.

Speaker 3 I believe you. If Morgan is saying a Reddit story is worth a read, all right.

Speaker 1 Strap me in. Buckle up.

Speaker 1 So this is titled, My Boyfriend's Mom Gave Me a Purity Test at Family Dinner. And now he's mad at me for leaving.
Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Unique experience for sure. A purity test.

Speaker 1 Okay. I, 26 female, have been dating my boyfriend, Ryan, 28 male, for about 10 months.

Speaker 1 Things have been been pretty good until last weekend when I finally met his parents at their house in Atlanta for Sunday dinner.

Speaker 3 Hey, I got Atlanta on my shirt.

Speaker 1 Look at that. I was so shocked when she gave it to me, I didn't even know what to say.
I just stared at her. She took my silence as me refusing to answer and said, I see.

Speaker 1 So you have things to hide. I stood up and said I needed to use the bathroom, but instead, I just grabbed my purse and left, called an Uber from the driveway.

Speaker 1 Ryan didn't even notice I was gone until like 20 minutes later when he came back inside.

Speaker 1 He's been blowing up my phone ever since, saying I embarrassed him in front of his parents and I should have just played along to keep the peace.

Speaker 1 His mom is apparently very upset and crying, saying that I rejected her attempt to get to know me better.

Speaker 1 Ryan says his mom is just protective and comes from a really religious background, so I need to be understanding. But like a purity test on an app at 26 years old, am I insane?

Speaker 1 Or was that completely out of line?

Speaker 3 I cannot imagine this happening. So it's an app.
It's a purity test on an app.

Speaker 1 It must be. Yeah.
Okay. Not OP isn't writing this the best.
I mean, a lot of people, I think, are like, kind of like, are we sure this one's real?

Speaker 1 But I will say, long before AI ever existed, and obviously people could still write creatively online. I had a story, and it was an episode.
It was an unhinged episode. I think it was Unhinged 2.0.

Speaker 1 Me, Lauren, and Justin. And we had a story about a woman writing in, and her fiancé had kind of blindsided her the night before the wedding and was requesting that his family check her hymen

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 purity before the wedding. She's still intact.
Oh my god. So

Speaker 3 I do think there are people out here that

Speaker 1 are like this. Like I feel like there's stories we've read or things where people have been like, yeah, his mom confronted me and asked me if I was still a virgin.

Speaker 1 If I was good enough for her son or like, you know, people imply stuff like that all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that the purity app of it all, especially upon first meeting is like what makes us a unique experience.

Speaker 3 But to have like a mother-in-law or like mother of someone try to find out if their future daughter-in-law would be pure. Like, that is not that crazy.
Like, that

Speaker 3 unfortunately is happening. And I cannot imagine, like, showing up to meet my partner's parents for the first time and they pull out a purity app and say, Take this test.

Speaker 3 And then, oh, so you do have something to hide. I am 26.
I am 26 years old. Like, yes, I've lived a life.
God forbid I've lived a life.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 doing some quick research, there is an app in the app. I was going to for this.
It is called the Rice Purity Test Plus.

Speaker 1 Looking at

Speaker 1 some of the questions, there's a screenshot.

Speaker 3 Does it have reviews?

Speaker 1 No reviews yet, not enough reviews to generate a rating, but this is real. From what I'm seeing, this is real.
And here are some of the questions. Held hands romantically.
Been on a date.

Speaker 1 Been in a relationship. Danced without leaving room for Jesus.

Speaker 1 kissed a non-family member, kissed a non-family member on the lips, French kissed, French kissed in public, kissed on the neck, kissed horizontally, given or received a hickey, kissed horizontally, kissed or been kissed on the breast, kissed someone below the belt, kissed for more than two hours consecutively, played a game involving stripping.

Speaker 3 This is like, this is so funny because this is also kind of a meme that goes around on like Facebook or Twitter or whatever social media app sometime where it's like, oh, add up your score.

Speaker 3 And if you've done these things and then say what your score is, but don't say why your score is what it is. And it's like, oh my God, you know what?

Speaker 1 So that's what it does. Every single time you check the box, it does subtract a point.
I believe there's a hundred questions. I can only see to number 43.

Speaker 1 I'll make sure we post the image on our Instagram so you guys can see. I don't, I don't know if you'd be able to read it on YouTube, but we'll put it in there as well.

Speaker 3 Everything subtracting from your score and then like having to say that to your partner and their family is so demeaning. Like, oh, here's my number out of this of how pure I am.

Speaker 1 Like, I mean, these

Speaker 1 they start to get a little crazy too. Like seen or read porn, gone through the motions of intercourse while fully dressed.

Speaker 1 Undressed or been undressed by a member of the preferred sex, showered with an MPS member of the preferred sex, fondled or had your butt cheeks fondled, had your breasts fondled had or given blue balls had an orgasm due to someone else's manipulation are these worth different amounts of points purchased contraceptives like is holding hands gonna subtract the same amount as

Speaker 1 i believe so that's crazy it's not even a good test Um, yeah, it's used to see how pure you are. It's free, fun, and exciting.
It has 100 questions.

Speaker 1 And the lower the score you get, the more things you did, and the less pure you are. It's fun, free, and exciting.

Speaker 3 I believe that this is a thing because when I was going through my like elementary school stuff, I found a contract that I had signed with the church.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 And I, and I grew up Christian, and they had like created this contract of like, I will not kiss until this age, I will not date until this age.

Speaker 3 And then it has like my like seven-year-old signature on it. So, this does not sound far off to me because

Speaker 1 i literally signed a purity contract i i just like i don't understand this mindset i'm like i'm i'm lost in the sauce on this website there's now there's a website for it too the ricepuritytest.com and it goes caution this is not a bucket list completion of all items on this test will likely result in death

Speaker 1 stop

Speaker 3 This is not a bucket list.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 question 70 had sexual intercourse 10 or more times.

Speaker 3 Travels 26.

Speaker 1 Traveled. Okay, I'm like fucked up.
I would actually check so many of these boxes.

Speaker 3 Yes, because you're an adult woman.

Speaker 1 Traveled 100 or more miles for the primary purpose of sexual intercourse. Yep, right here.
I've taken planes 2,000 miles to get fucked. Like, what?

Speaker 3 Wait.

Speaker 1 This mom would hate my guts.

Speaker 3 That being a question is so funny, and that's also hilarious. Had a pregnancy scare.

Speaker 1 Ding, ding, ding, ding. Well, yeah.
I have not done number 100 though. Okay.
Engaged in bestiality.

Speaker 1 So there's some wonky questions.

Speaker 3 And again, is that worth the same amount of points as holding hands? Like there should be some.

Speaker 1 Let's find out. Let's find out.
Okay. So I'm clicking holding hands.
Okay. Calculate my score, 99.
Okay. So

Speaker 1 it took one off. Right.
I'm going to take this lovely test again.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Bestiality, for example. Bestiality, score of 99.
Same amount of points. Holding hands or participating in bestiality.

Speaker 3 Well done test.

Speaker 1 Same amount of points.

Speaker 1 So, given all of our research here, yes. You know, I always say

Speaker 1 I believe these stories about 90% of the time. I actually, I'm very convinced looking at this app.

Speaker 3 I absolutely believe that this is a thing that would happen.

Speaker 3 And honestly, like, even if it's not a mother-in-law with a purity app, I'm sure that there are like pastors out there, you know, when people are like getting married and they consult with the pastor.

Speaker 3 I'm sure that there's like some communities where this purity test in a written form of some kind is used.

Speaker 3 Like this does not sound like they made an app based on there being no paper trail history of it. It's just such a crazy thing to do in 2025 as well as like to a 26 year old woman.

Speaker 1 And that's the thing. He's 28.
She's 26. Like, is he also getting this purity test? Like, does his mother care about his purity or is it only this girlfriend's?

Speaker 3 Like, and her, if her mother gave him the purity test, would like his mother also think that's weird? Like, why are you doing that to my son? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, this is absurd. Yeah.
I think the overall question, am I insane? No, you're not insane. Was that completely out of line? Leaving the family dinner in an Uber? No.

Speaker 1 No, I would have done the same thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The fact, like, I do wish like you would have just given your boyfriend a chance to be like hey this is really inappropriate like i'm gonna go i wish you would not have

Speaker 1 a chance i think she just kind of like left and went out and just like got in the uber and left it sounds like he wasn't there during this conversation oh really like he was outside maybe cooking hanging with dad interesting whatever

Speaker 1 Maybe she's helping mom in the kitchen and she slips the app her way.

Speaker 1 I do wish you would have given him the chance to respond. Like, I think you already

Speaker 1 have a boyfriend problem based on him being like, she was just trying to get to know you.

Speaker 1 You already have a boyfriend problem, not just his mom being an issue.

Speaker 1 But if he would have stood by you more in the moment before you left, like, then I would have been like, okay, like, you know, boyfriend's a good guy. He's standing up for you.
Mom's crazy. Right.

Speaker 1 But at least, you know, now you know, and he can set some boundaries with her. Yeah.
But that's not the case. Now he's taking his mom's side

Speaker 1 for this absurd, crazy thing. And no, I think

Speaker 3 toxic like triangle to get into of like, now mom's crying. She's like, oh my God, I can't believe this happened.
Why did she get so upset with me?

Speaker 1 They're enmeshed. We all know that.
You all were hearing it in your head before I even said it. I've held off for quite some time saying that now, you guys.

Speaker 3 Because we were doing research. Because we were on the ground doing research.

Speaker 1 We were on the ground doing research. But I think like you chalk this up and you run the other way.
This is a unique experience that you have for the books. You know what to avoid.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, this comes up a lot sooner in other relationships. If it comes up again and is not a unique experience, but I really, this one's not worth being around.
Like, the mom is genuinely,

Speaker 1 if you're getting this goofy the first time you met her,

Speaker 1 imagine what kind of mother-in-law you will have to deal with the rest of your life if you choose to proceed down the audacity.

Speaker 3 The like, nope, ooh, I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 1 like i can't imagine that that would ever get better it would just get crazier and crazier over time well and the fact that he like i'm like looking at his response i'm getting so mad he said like she should have just played along to keep the peace right so he knows what she did and he still is taking his mother's side yeah and it's like why do i have to talk about my intimate experiences because some of them are intimate like if you go down and look at the questions Yeah, we can laugh about the holding hands thing pregnancy scare and like a lot of intimate personal questions.

Speaker 1 Questions that honestly violate hip-hop. They violate hip-hop.

Speaker 3 That would be such a funny response. I'm sorry, but this violates HIPAA.

Speaker 1 Like, come on. So I think at that point, it's like, no, I'm not going to entertain someone basically harassing me and violating my privacy and being completely inappropriate.

Speaker 1 That is none of your mother's business. Do you want me to go into detail about how I suck your dick with your mom?

Speaker 1 Oh, and that time I fingered your butthole.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Should I tell your mom that?

Speaker 3 Like, ah, why would she even want to know about that? I like would not want to know.

Speaker 1 Because she wants to fuck her son. Oh, she wants to know exactly what her son is doing.

Speaker 1 She's going to live vicariously through this purity test.

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 That might be a reach. Okay, that might be a reach, but it's, it's gross.
And I think you need to break up.

Speaker 3 And inappropriate. It has to stop.

Speaker 1 The top comment on Instagram: What's worse than a boy mom? A religious fanatic boy mom. Run.

Speaker 1 Next comment. He took his mom's side.
He always will.

Speaker 1 Next one. How is he not furious as his mom for being embarrassing? Also, people need to stop misusing that word.
A fart at dinner is embarrassing.

Speaker 1 This is just way out of line, batshit, crazy behavior. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will say the Instagram comments, they're a little more rambunctious than what we see on Reddit these days.

Speaker 3 I know I do like the Instagram comments.

Speaker 1 Batshit, crazy.

Speaker 3 It's so entitled and like inappropriate and wrong. I just, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm at a loss for words.

Speaker 3 Yeah. If he can't take your side in such an obvious situation like that, you are signing yourself up for a world of disappointment and being left out to dry.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, this next one coming from our very own Twitter Takes subreddit. Seven days old.

Speaker 3 Seven days?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Titled, My ex posted a happy anniversary with me six months after after we broke up.

Speaker 3 I'm obsessed with this.

Speaker 1 So, my ex and I broke up in April. It wasn't messy, but it wasn't exactly peaceful either.
He wanted to focus on himself, which was code for flirting with girls on Discord.

Speaker 1 Anyways, fast forward to now, November.

Speaker 3 About seven months.

Speaker 1 And one of my friends sends me a screenshot from his Insta story. Quote, happy three years.
Love you forever. With a picture of us from 2022.

Speaker 1 I actually thought it was a throwback or something, but no, he literally captioned it like we're still together. We haven't spoken since the breakup.
I'm not blocked or anything, just ignored.

Speaker 1 So now I'm sitting here getting texts from mutual friends asking if we got back together. And I'm like, what alternate reality is this man living in?

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's to make me look like I still care or to make him look like he's the loyal one who never moved on. But either way, it's weird.
Like, dude, we broke up half a year ago.

Speaker 1 You can't just retroactively celebrate an anniversary that doesn't exist. Part of me wants to respond with, happy delusion day,

Speaker 1 but I'm being good.

Speaker 3 At first, I was like, oh, this is so funny. This is so crazy.
And now I'm like, is this scary?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, I think it might be a little bit scary because

Speaker 3 obviously someone having delusions that involve you is a scary situation to be in. Sure is.
I have one friend, my friend Ellie. Her ex posted, like, on her birthday, happy birthday to my favorite ex,

Speaker 3 which was already crazy.

Speaker 1 Ellie.

Speaker 3 But this is so much crazier.

Speaker 1 Ellie, what the heck?

Speaker 3 They're like friends. It's just, it's like objectively a hilarious thing to post.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 But yeah, like, I don't know if, like, is he having some kind of health, like mental health problems?

Speaker 1 Like what I'm getting. Is he actually,

Speaker 3 you know, or is this more of like a scary stalker type situation? Or is he like, I don't, like a secret third option that I'm trying to think of.

Speaker 1 It is really for me. I'm like, it's giving.

Speaker 1 It's giving mental health crisis and just like, okay, something is really up here and he needs some help because the delusion you broke up,

Speaker 1 what did you say, seven months?

Speaker 3 Like seven months ago, you broke up in April.

Speaker 1 It's now November and we've been broken up for half a year, over half a year. And you're posting a three-year anniversary.
We're not together. Yeah.
So who are you trying to impress? It's not me.

Speaker 1 And if you're not trying to impress someone, it's pure delusion.

Speaker 3 Right. More than anything, if someone's lying about being in a relationship, it's usually like pretending that they're not in one so that they can hook up with people.
I know.

Speaker 3 like I don't see what the upside of pretending you are still in a relationship with somebody is.

Speaker 1 Maybe the flirting on Discord hasn't worked out, and so now he's just trying to like that's so true cool to the other guys he plays Discord with. Oh, yeah, like I've got a girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got this hot girl. Like, boo, boo, boo, boo.
Like, he's probably telling all these Discord people, like, oh, no, no, no, like, I'm not hitting on you. I have a girlfriend.

Speaker 3 Right, because the other thing that's confusing to me is this isn't preceded by any like, he's been texting me trying to get back together or, you know, he's, he's texted me as if things were normal before.

Speaker 3 He's shown up at blah, blah, blah. Like this isn't like over the last seven months, he's been trying to keep that relationship still going.
It's like out of nowhere, he's posting this.

Speaker 3 So that's why it feels kind of performative in a sense.

Speaker 1 Performative is a really good word for this.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And yeah, maybe that is it. Maybe it's about these Discord people.
Maybe he's trying to be like, well, I have a girlfriend anyway. Maybe he was rejected and everyone knows it on Discord.

Speaker 3 And he's like, well, I'm fine. I've still got, I've still got somebody.
I don't know. Either way, hopefully it's more like that because that makes it less of a threat to her.
I feel.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, my ex is crazy and he's not succeeding at finding women after we've broken up.

Speaker 1 But I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know either. It's too long to hear some, though.

Speaker 3 So let us know.

Speaker 1 I know. Keep us posted on this i

Speaker 1 i would respond knowing me i'd be like yeah hey curious about this we're not together right like what can you take this down like i wouldn't want that up there even yeah like you can tell your friends and everyone will know and you can kind of clear the air but at the same time like i also wouldn't necessarily want that out there i'd be like what what's going on why why are you posting this

Speaker 1 like why did you say that and then you can also figure out if there is a threat right like is he going through a mental health crisis? Is he delusional? Could he show up?

Speaker 1 Like, could something bad happen? Or like, is he just trying to look like he's got game? Right.

Speaker 3 Or did he lose a bet? Did he, did he get dared? Like, did he, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 I'm trying to think of any other possible reason.

Speaker 1 But that's a really good point.

Speaker 3 So weird. Beyond.
I hope she asks him and then tells us.

Speaker 1 That's what I need. I need to know how this played out.
Let me see if there is an update. So, top comment on the post: not gonna lie, that is fucking weird.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's unhinged behavior, says the next comment. You can't celebrate an anniversary with someone who's not even in the relationship anymore.
Good on you for keeping it classy.

Speaker 1 He's clearly doing enough embarrassing for the both of you. Um, someone goes, Exactly, an anniversary with who? You can't be in a relationship by yourself, buddy.
It's called daydreaming, not dating.

Speaker 1 I'm not seeing any comments, no update to the post.

Speaker 3 So, please let us know mark yourself safe for us please i know it's very very odd because there's such a spectrum of possibilities here like the least concerning being like this was some dare or this was like i don't know lost a bet i don't know worst is he is having delusions that he's still with you and could get violent

Speaker 1 yeah Keep us posted, please.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I don't know. Definitely a unique experience.
Like,

Speaker 1 usually, it's not getting pictures posted of you once you've broken up. Like,

Speaker 1 right. I just said, I don't know.
I've heard of like unless you're still friends and hanging out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know it's like that's so different, but you're broken up and he's posting for your anniversary. Like, what's happening?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've heard of like trying to get someone back and posting like, I miss you, like, like crazy, you know, like Facebook posts of I miss what we had, but not pretending that you're still together.

Speaker 3 That's where it's like, what is going on here?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a bit perplexing. It is a bit perplexing.
Baffling. I'm confuddled by it.
Yeah. Befuddled even.
Yeah, so am I by this next one.

Speaker 1 Is it befuddling? That's a big word. Is it befuddling? Befuddling?

Speaker 3 Could be a theme.

Speaker 1 Befuddling. Dating can be scary, befuddling voyage into the unknown.
Confusing or perplexing? Befuddling.

Speaker 3 I'm befuddled.

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Speaker 1 So this is coming from our friend Charlotte Dobre's page.

Speaker 1 It is titled, Am I Overreacting for Throwing Out All of Our Soap After Finding Out How My Boyfriend Actually Washes Himself?

Speaker 3 Now I'm scared.

Speaker 1 So I, 26 female, don't even know how to start this without gagging. This happened earlier this week, and I'm still going through waves of disgust and disbelief.

Speaker 1 My boyfriend, 28 male, and I have been together for about a year now. We recently moved in together about three months ago.

Speaker 1 Before that, we'd spend weekends together, but I never really paid much attention to how he showered. I guess I just assumed he was like everyone else.

Speaker 1 Soap, loofah, washcloth, maybe body wash, maybe even one of those fancy shower puffs. You know, normal hygiene.

Speaker 3 I'm so scared.

Speaker 1 But oh, how wrong I was.

Speaker 1 So around this Monday, he had been feeling sick the night before, some bad food, he said. I woke up to him rushing to the bathroom.
Poor guy had a bad case of diarrhea. No big deal.

Speaker 1 He took a shower afterwards, and I didn't think twice about it. I had showered earlier that morning, and by the time he was done, I was already half asleep.
So I didn't go in there again.

Speaker 1 The next morning, I got up to take my shower. I pick up our shared bar of soap and saw boo-boo chunks on it.

Speaker 1 His booboo chunks on it.

Speaker 3 This is actually worse than I meant, than I imagined it could be.

Speaker 1 I gagged so hard, I almost threw up. I dropped the soap immediately, turned off the water, and just stood there trying to process what the hell I was looking at.

Speaker 1 When I finally called him over, I asked him what the hell happened to the soap. He looked confused.

Speaker 1 I explained what I saw, and he goes, quote, oh, yeah, I took a shower last night after I went to the bathroom. I probably didn't rinse the soap off right.
Dude, what?

Speaker 1 And then that's when I learned something that made me question everything about this man. He doesn't use a washcloth or a loofah or a body brush or even his hands in a lathering way.

Speaker 1 He literally takes the bar of soap, wets it, wets himself with the shower hose, and rubs the bar directly all over his body from head to toe, including his armpits, his dick, his ass, and apparently after having diarrhea.

Speaker 1 I didn't even know what to say. I just stood there horrified, replaying every single time I'd used that damn bar of soap on my own loofah or washcloth.

Speaker 1 So the next day, my first thought was to throw away every bar of soap we had and both have shared, leaving just my body washes in the shower. When he saw me doing this, he got defensive.

Speaker 1 He asked why I was overreacting and said I was making a big deal out of nothing. I told him I wasn't comfortable sharing soap anymore because now that I know what he's been doing, it's just nasty.

Speaker 1 I didn't shame him. I just said, I didn't realize that's how you washed and I can't share a bar like that again.
He got quiet and said, so you think I'm dirty? I told him no.

Speaker 3 I think the shit that you put on our soap is dirty. I think the shit that I can see on our soap might be.

Speaker 1 I told him no, but that his method is unsanitary, which I mean, come on, it's objectively gross, especially if you're using the same bar that touches your butthole in private parts.

Speaker 1 Then it sits there collecting whatever didn't rinse off, like the poop chunks.

Speaker 1 He didn't storm out, and a few hours later, I got a call from his sister asking me why I embarrassed him and made him feel like a disgusting person. Apparently, he told his family about it.

Speaker 1 His mom texted me something like, men have been using bars of soap for generations. What? You're making it sound filthy.

Speaker 3 Why is this becoming like a traditional like this?

Speaker 1 Am I insane for thinking this is different though? Like, yes, people use bar soap, but most people don't literally rub it between their cheeks and then put it back for someone else to use.

Speaker 1 Now he's been giving me the cold shoulder, and his family thinks I'm some germ-obsessed neat freak who humiliated him over a piece of soap. So, for second opinions, am I overreacting?

Speaker 3 This made me physically ill, Morgan. I already feared what this situation could be from the title, and it was so much worse somehow.
Like, this is a health hazard.

Speaker 3 She could have gotten some kind of like

Speaker 1 pink eye.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like a bacterial infection.

Speaker 1 And like, yeah, like, also, he has food poisoning. That's why the diarrhea is there.
Like, you are sick, sir. And you use that bar of soap as a douche.

Speaker 1 He He was douching his asshole with the bar of soap. Like, oh, I don't feel okay.

Speaker 3 I don't feel okay.

Speaker 1 Like, this isn't okay. The fact that there were chunks on that.
No. Chunks.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 She can only ever, while she's dating him, use body wash now with a sense of peace.

Speaker 1 Like I. Body wash with a pump.

Speaker 3 I would, yeah, I would immediately feel like I need to like bleach my entire body. Like, I don't know how, like, this would make me feel very ill.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm trying to think, okay, movies, like in movies, in things, like I've, I've taken a personal bar of my soap and I've like took the soap bar on my armpits before.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would never put that soap bar up my ass.

Speaker 1 And it's not dirty. It's pretty dirty

Speaker 1 I ever shared. Granted, armpits are gross too.
So I don't know. Like, I'm like, is this a thing? Is this a common way to use the bar of soap? Because, like, does the soap kill germs as it sits there?

Speaker 1 Because it is soap. Can soap grow germs like a petri dish? Or does soap kill germs? Like, do we have to be this scared? But it's the fact that this bar of soap is shared.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a shared bar of soap. And there's visible shit on it.
And there's visible shit on it. Like, like, how do you get past that?

Speaker 1 You didn't look after you stuck that bar of soap in between your ass cheeks. You didn't look.
You didn't give it a like a good wash, a rinse.

Speaker 1 Like, okay, you're going to rub that soap on your armpits, but then give the soap bar a wash.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? I think even if someone does sometimes use a bar of soap directly on their skin, it is common sense to not put it between your butt cheeks.

Speaker 1 That because even if it is a personal, it's genitals that's like really amplifying this.

Speaker 3 Yes. And even if it's a personal soap bar, you wouldn't even want that for yourself.

Speaker 3 You'd You'd be like, ooh, I shouldn't probably put my soap on some shit and then just like use it for the rest of my body again the next day.

Speaker 3 Like even if he's not sharing it, like I think you still in your head, you're like, I'm not going to do it like that.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 maybe this is an issue. Because didn't he wipe his butt after pooping on the toilet or did he just go from diarrhea? That's what I don't know.

Speaker 3 Slush shower. That's my fear, Morgan.
That's what I'm really scared of.

Speaker 1 Why are there chunks still like why didn't you at least give like a one wipe so you're not dripping shit as you walk to the shower

Speaker 1 like why

Speaker 1 i like i understand too feeling embarrassed and like i don't know yeah but sometimes you do something that just is embarrassing yeah i mean justin's caught me picking my nose here and there like if you're not picking your nose you're lying about picking your nose let's be real like there's some things you just can't get with a taste the same thing morgan but i know what it's like when he's like when he called me out or or whatever.

Speaker 1 And he's like, did you just pick your note? I'm like,

Speaker 1 you weren't supposed to see that. But like that feeling of embarrassed or feeling gross.
And maybe this is something he's dealt with before. But like, okay,

Speaker 1 let's address it between the two of you. The fact that you're...

Speaker 3 You're crying to your family.

Speaker 1 You're crying to your whole family. And what did you tell your family? Did you tell them you left shit chunks on our soap?

Speaker 3 Yeah. And like, yes, she's throwing them out.
Like, sorry.

Speaker 1 Get new soap.

Speaker 3 This isn't this like oppressive act toward you.

Speaker 3 She's throwing out the soap that she found covered in shit i don't know what else she was supposed to do you can go to the dollar store the 99 cent store the dollar general you can go many places and get new soap it i don't care like men have been using bars of soap for generations

Speaker 1 it's weird it's weird you're not overreacting this is gross yeah and i think i also don't think she said anything like mean to him no i think she was shocked it was like what like like what have what have we been living in like what's been going on i think anyone would freak out if they walked into their bathroom and went to go shower and get clean and there was poop all over their soap.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's a normal reaction.

Speaker 3 And, like, I can't see without my contacts in. And I don't shower

Speaker 3 with my contacts in. So, like, I.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 That would be a really sad surprise. I wouldn't know right away.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't want to think about it anymore. It's bad.
What are the comments?

Speaker 1 Yeah, top comment. Since he brought his family into this, then there is no reason why you can't absolutely be truly honest.
The problem isn't that he uses the bar on his bare body.

Speaker 1 It's the fact that he uses the bar of soap directly onto his rectum to clean off diarrhea. And that left chunks of poop on the bar soap.

Speaker 1 That is the issue. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he thinks that that's normal. And he thinks that that's fine.
So that means it's a recurring thing. Yeah.
You are gross.

Speaker 1 Like, it's not gross that you use the bar of soap on your body. It's gross that you left shit on the bar of soap.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now tell tell that to his mom and sister since they wanted to confront you about his hurt feelings.

Speaker 1 And just so you know, not only is he disgusting leaving the poop on the bar of soap, but he is immature and runs to mommy and his sister to cry about his hurt feelings.

Speaker 1 Those two points are very unattractive in a man, and I definitely couldn't see myself being with someone like that long term.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that's the that's like what I was like really trying to get at here. Yeah, this

Speaker 1 maybe wouldn't have been such a big deal. And I get being defensive.
You can be defensive and be hurt and be embarrassed and whatever.

Speaker 1 But the fact that you took this problem and you ran to outside sources and involved them in it and then had those sources come back and chirp at me and try to make sure that I look bad.

Speaker 1 I'm the bad person.

Speaker 1 I'm not the bad person here, babe. Yeah.
This is all over. Just a bar of soap.
It's easily rectified. Hey, you didn't know.

Speaker 1 You didn't know that you shouldn't wash that way. Yeah.
By the way, loofahs are disgusting. Yeah.
Loofas harbor bacteria.

Speaker 1 I don't think a loofah is any better than just using the bar of soap, but I think there's a way that you could have cleaned without degrading the bar of soap that we shared. However, not an issue.

Speaker 1 We'll throw it away. We'll get new soap.
This is how you should operate going forward. Yes.
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Get a bidet.
I was surprised by the poop on the soap.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Get a bidet.
Am I right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hey.
A bidet. A shatafa.
That would do a lot for them. Whatever you're feeling.

Speaker 3 He would probably like that because he seems to like this, like,

Speaker 3 you know, not like the dry cleaning method so much. He seems to like going the wet cleaning method.

Speaker 1 I just, the fact that he had

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 big of chunks,

Speaker 1 like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Did we not wipe? We did not wipe. That is the, that is what we're doing.
We did not wipe.

Speaker 1 We did not wipe.

Speaker 3 I can hardly stand it. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 It's gross. Okay, moving on to this next one.

Speaker 1 This is coming from R slash, Am I Overreacting? It is titled, Am I Overreacting for Getting Pissed That Someone Had Sex in My Truck at the Dealership?

Speaker 1 I'll make this short, but I can always add more as this is a long story. My new truck developed a leak just under 12K miles, so I scheduled an appointment at the dealership.

Speaker 1 After three weeks, I get it back with a horrible smell inside with a driver's seat that clearly has ass cheek stains. Not swamp ass, as it has been cold here.

Speaker 1 My interior door is scratched, probably from a wedding ring. There is a stain on the seat that looks like the woman enjoyed herself.
There is a stain on the floor.

Speaker 1 There is a shoe print on my headliner, makeup on the visor and headliner, deep finger indents on a solid visor. I also found a hair tie and a hair clip in my console.
That is definitely not mine.

Speaker 1 The dealership refused to take any accountability and blamed me for the condition, even though it was not like this when I dropped it off. My windows are blacked out as well.

Speaker 1 I should add that I'm single and I work from home. So there is a 0% chance it's from me or a cheating partner.

Speaker 1 After I brought it to the dealer's attention, they cleaned it, but did a poor job, so I had to clean it again by a professional. Am I overreacting?

Speaker 3 First of all, those people went crazy. Good for them.
It sounds like they had fun. Oh my God.
All the details of like the positions and the indents and the wedding ring scratch.

Speaker 3 Like, oh my god, they went at it.

Speaker 1 This is on a porn site somewhere.

Speaker 3 This, yeah, he could find the evidence probably if he searches hard enough, but I wouldn't recommend it. You're going to see a lot of shit.

Speaker 3 Like that, no, that is disgusting. That should have been taken more seriously by the dealership.
And like, I don't understand

Speaker 3 how they could like dismiss it so easily. Like, that needs a serious clean job.

Speaker 1 That doesn't disgust.

Speaker 3 You can't just like kind of wipe it, wipe it off a little bit.

Speaker 1 No, and the fact he's noticing all of this because of a horrible all caps smell. Oh, God, I forgot that part.
Yeah. There's probably a used condom somewhere lost in there.

Speaker 1 Down the crack in between the seat and the console.

Speaker 3 And they should take it seriously because it's like, this could be a repeated employee problem that you have. Like, you need to do some internal investigations.
Like, this isn't okay behavior.

Speaker 1 This is gross. I feel like that's one thing.
Like, and I get people don't want to get sued. People don't want to lose money.

Speaker 1 so it really like has become this deny gaslight gatekeep like it has kind of become that attitude with customer service like you don't want to fully cop to it yeah like like no no one did anything you took you brought it to us like that we'll clean it because we are kind we're so kind but we're not cleaning it because we admit that we did that exactly and yeah i just saw this post from a woman also on reddit And she was like, am I overreacting?

Speaker 1 Like my dog got back from the groomers and like his teeth are knocked out. This lady was like, I took my dog to the same groomers he's been going to for five years, like since he was a puppy.

Speaker 1 They told me that he bit the blow dryer and so his teeth are loose now. She ends up taking this dog to the vet.
Its jaw is broke.

Speaker 1 And so she's like, They're clearly lying to me. And a bunch of people in the comments, like one of which is a vet tech, was like, oh yeah, like.
The dog probably fell off the table,

Speaker 1 hit its jaw and broke its jaw.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the force needed they're lying to you and it's like because like be honest biting something is gonna break its jaw like dogs are always biting things they're biting bones honest because if that woman would have believed you and gone home that doll that dog would have been living with a broken jaw yeah in pain yeah like this dog needs medical care don't lie like yeah These businesses have insurance for a reason.

Speaker 1 Your insurance is going to cover an accident. Will your insurance go up? Yeah.

Speaker 3 But that is the risk you take running a business and maybe not paying attention to the dog as you should have maybe not ensuring that dog's safety that is your fault though yeah and i feel like i do feel like obviously there are going to be some cases where people get you like they hear you admit something and they take it all the way but I think in general, where businesses get like bad reviews and bad reputations is if they don't actually handle concerns seriously.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And they try to like avoid and pretend it wasn't their fault and kind of like gaslight you about it.

Speaker 3 Because even if something happens like employees have sex in your car, if they just fully say, I am so sorry, I don't know how this happened.

Speaker 3 We don't have any footage of this happening, but I understand why you feel like it must have happened here. We'll fully take care of any cleaning service.

Speaker 3 Like there is such a way like people appreciate that.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 this whole like evasive thing, like it doesn't build any trust. Like that, that person's never going to go back there.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 There's like something that's going around too on TikTok right now that's gone pretty viral.

Speaker 1 So maybe some of you have seen it, but it's this girl who like set her phone up outside of like a random shop and she was trying to get like a video of her outfit. She's carrying a Dunkin' coffee cup.

Speaker 1 And the woman of the shop, it's like, it must be a coffee shop bakery. Is like, really?

Speaker 1 You're going to take that video here with the Dunkin' in your hand?

Speaker 1 And the girl is like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, didn't cross my mind.
Like, I'm so sorry. She goes in, buys a pastry because she doesn't need a coffee.
She's got a coffee. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So she buys a pastry. And then the woman does not let her stay in that shop, kicks her out after buying the pastry because she has the dunkin.
We don't allow outside beverages.

Speaker 1 And it's like, she just came in your store

Speaker 1 and gave you business. She realized she might have been being a little rude, which she was on a fucking sidewalk, like get real.
Yeah. But she realized maybe, hey, maybe I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 Went inside, bought something, and then you kicked her out. Yeah.
So the girl made a video about it. Obviously.
And the lady's like, oh my God, freaking out.

Speaker 1 And it's like, that's just not how you treat people. No.
Who cares if she's got a Duncan?

Speaker 3 Initially, I was like, did the lady think that she was like making some kind of diss video by being like, ooh, like my Duncan is so much better?

Speaker 1 Bro, she literally went in and tried to support. Yeah, no, I was like a small little cafe.

Speaker 1 Like if you would have played that cool, like if you would have been like, hey, my coffee's better than Duncan. Come on in and try some.

Speaker 1 yeah you would have looked great yeah who doesn't love free coffee but customer service like it needs a kick in the butt i think i just yeah it's tough and it's like necessarily the people it's like it's the companies the companies aren't getting it and i yeah

Speaker 3 what was the original

Speaker 1 oh sex in the car yeah we do get an update oh we get some updates on this one wait no way yeah brief update called the police they won't take a police report as it's a civil matter all they could do was document that I called.

Speaker 1 This happened at Redacted in Surprise, Arizona, 85388. And another Reddit member told me my one-star review is already gone from their Google reviews.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Which I don't feel like people should be able to do that.

Speaker 3 It shouldn't. It's actually really hard to like, I don't know, even sometimes fake bad reviews can be hard to remove.
I know.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. The general manager called me today, which was useless.
He wanted to know if the other manager called me, which he did. They're both passing off responsibility on each other.

Speaker 1 I called corporate this past Saturday and issued a complaint, but I was advised not to expect anything out of it as that falls on deaf ears.

Speaker 1 I will be taking to social media and uploading video pictures and audio recordings taken while dealing with this terrible business.

Speaker 1 Apparently, OP did post pictures. Oh my God.
So we have some pictures.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. So here's the seat.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Like it honestly.

Speaker 1 That looks like a. It looks like someone had a yeast infection and like there it's like it's like chalky residue on their seat.
Yeah, why does it look like that?

Speaker 1 I think that's what he's calling the ass.

Speaker 3 Because I swear you could have sex in a car and get away with it.

Speaker 1 There's like full-blown jizz. Okay, yeah.
That's like jizz

Speaker 1 all over his floor mat.

Speaker 3 Oh my god.

Speaker 1 Is that blood? Oh my god, look at the hand prints. These are like fucking crazy hand creases.
Like this person was like gripping like they were hanging off a cliff.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's no way that you wouldn't have seen that. That looks like blood.

Speaker 1 I think there's blood. So or lipstick.
Yeah, maybe she was on her period or there's lipstick like on the visor, on the roof of the car. Like it is pretty bad when you look at the pictures, actually.

Speaker 3 Oh my God. And if they, I feel like if the car company had been more like forthcoming and

Speaker 3 kind about it, it wouldn't have gone to the like the places it's going now. No issue.

Speaker 3 I was going to say, like, with the Google remove, Google review removing thing, they will remove any review that has like profanity in it.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if like it mentioned the sex or anything like that. And it just automatically gets flagged by Google for that.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 3 There's like certain things

Speaker 1 we have to be careful of. I know.
That's true.

Speaker 3 Or if it like defames certain individuals at the company.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The thing is though, too, like the dealership should have handled this because like, if that is blood, that's a biohazard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 that's a biohazard like that's disgusting being kind goes a long way so we get another update no way six days ago i posted about my bizarre situation after reading a majority of the comments here as well as social media i dug deeper into finding reviews on this dealership there were hundreds of negative feedback across multiple sites about damage to customers vehicles and or financial fraud by padding loans without customers consent or knowledge and other shady things.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. The day after making my post, the sales manager at the dealership called me to basically tell me it's the general manager's responsibility.
So this call was pointless.

Speaker 1 The following day, the general manager calls me and basically tells me it's the sales manager's responsibility, but he will call me back tomorrow or the following day.

Speaker 1 Neither manager ever called me back. Yesterday, I filed a complaint with BBB, Better Business Bureau, and with the Attorney General with my story.

Speaker 1 Today, someone from the dealership called, believe it's customer relations, and they told me they received my complaint from the attorney general and they would like to fix the damaged items in my truck.

Speaker 1 Oh, now you do. I told him I need a new driver's seat, a new rear seat cover, new visor, and a new door panel on my driver's door.
He said, that's fine, and I can bring it in.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because you're scared now.

Speaker 1 I kindly replied that there is absolutely no way I'll be back at their dealership. So he told me they contract with a third-party company that comes to the customers' homes to do the repairs.

Speaker 1 I agreed to that, and now I'm waiting on the third-party repair company to call me to schedule it. I'm hoping all goes well, but honestly, I'm not holding my breath.

Speaker 1 He also said they can reverse the thousands of dollars of add-ons that I never agreed to if my electronic signature is attached.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't know because they still have never given me copies of me asking for nine months. There's definitely going to be at least one more update, regardless of what happens with the repairs.

Speaker 1 Thank you for the suggestions. It's given me the motivation and knowledge to get results.
And then included more pictures of the truck seats, which same ones we saw already.

Speaker 1 This is like the scratches on the back seat.

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 3 Like, guys, these are like very obvious scratch marks. Like, these are deep scratch marks.

Speaker 1 I've never even seen that from like an animal. Oh, like, to be honest.
Like, I'm actually very.

Speaker 3 It's almost like when they were having sex, they were getting off on the fact it would be obvious that they had sex there. Yeah.
Like, that was part of the enjoyment for them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, they definitely wanted to leave their mark.

Speaker 1 Um, so we have another update. There's a lot of updates on this one.
I did not know until we got here. Um, 10 days ago, I posted the first update, a correction.

Speaker 1 The last update, it was not the customer service relations that called me. It was a senior partner at the dealership.
He told me that the seed store panels and visor would be replaced.

Speaker 1 Shortly after posting that update, I received multiple calls from multiple employees saying that replacement was never discussed and that they will clean it up, that I misunderstood the senior partner.

Speaker 1 I recorded the call and I certainly did not misunderstand.

Speaker 1 The general manager has been calling me every couple of days, telling me their third-party repair company will be contacting me to clean my truck.

Speaker 1 I've consistently said I'm not in need of a cleaning, that cleaning it will not remove the damage.

Speaker 1 In one of the calls with the GM, he suggested swapping my truck to a new one, and I accepted the offer.

Speaker 1 Shortly after, the salespeople called me wanting to do a trade-in, which will cost me thousands of dollars on a loss on my new truck. So, obviously, I refused.

Speaker 1 The GM implied it was a simple swap, not a typical trade-in where they profit selling two vehicles.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yesterday I got a call from the third-party company and sent pictures of the issue. He confirmed the seats cannot be repaired and must be replaced, as well as the visor and door panel.

Speaker 1 He informed me that he will tell the GM and I should expect him to call me. Still waiting.
This would piss me off.

Speaker 3 Because now this goes beyond just repairing the things that you broke because it's taking so much time. It's taking so much work.
It's a full-time job.

Speaker 3 Like you need to actually compensate me above and beyond the damage that you've done. Now it's my time.
And it could be a biohazard. Like, it's like, what am I being exposed to?

Speaker 1 Yeah. This looks like blood.

Speaker 1 It's disgusting. There's

Speaker 1 the jizz on the rug, you guys. Like, just wait.
I received a response from the dealership on BBB saying they are working it out with me. They are not working anything out.

Speaker 1 They're just wasting my time. Call me every couple of days trying to get me to agree to a simple cleaning.
I'll give it until Tuesday for action.

Speaker 1 Then I'll be taking the next steps to make this a legal issue. New update.
Wow. So this new update is coming from this past June, three months after

Speaker 1 the original post.

Speaker 1 So I bought a new Ford Maverick in Surprise, Arizona. 85388 at the only Ford dealership in town.
So if you're out there listening, I think it's it's very clear which one it is.

Speaker 1 I was extremely adamant about not having a service plan or lowjack, no add-ons, no extras, no upgrades whatsoever, except a factory-added toe hitch.

Speaker 1 First red flag was when it eventually came in six months later. The dealer tried to charge me an absurd amount for dealer add-ons that weren't even on the truck.

Speaker 1 So, obviously, I refused that, and they did me a favor and took off the cost. Next up in finance, I was repeatedly adamant about no service plan and no lowjack.

Speaker 1 It was nowhere in any of the forms I signed, and I read every word. I was in there for hours and they were annoyed with me.

Speaker 1 So they said that neither will be on my loan and they'll email me the electronic copies. I never received them.

Speaker 1 I get my loan paperwork in the mail weeks later and I was shocked to see nearly 4,000 more than what I had signed for.

Speaker 3 Oh my God, this company.

Speaker 1 It took months and dozens of calls to the dealer, but they refunded a majority of the service plan and they promised the Lojack would follow, but never did. Here we are a year later.

Speaker 1 I've reported them to the Attorney General, BBB, corporate, with zero results. They no longer take my calls or respond.

Speaker 1 They did eventually send my electronic forms a year later and they absolutely transferred my signature twice without my knowledge or consent. Fraud.
There is zero chance I signed these forms.

Speaker 1 I'm not the only one that has had fraudulent add-ons in Surprise, Arizona. If you did also message me, I may be taking legal action.
A small update on the damages to my truck.

Speaker 1 While it was in for warranty work, they refused to take accountability, but I've heard from dozens of other peoples that they had bizarre, unexplainable damages to their vehicle as well while it was in for service.

Speaker 1 I'm compiling evidence that this has been happening for years. I have audio recorded every single interaction with this company from the beginning.

Speaker 1 They are in such a deep hole, and there is indisputable evidence of financial fraud, not just on my loan, but on others that I've spoken with as well.

Speaker 3 Sue them.

Speaker 3 Sue them.

Speaker 1 That is insane.

Speaker 3 These companies, how are they getting away with this for so long?

Speaker 3 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Unreal. Unreal.

Speaker 3 And it's crazy because they would like probably just keep getting away with this if they didn't do things that were so obvious, like unavoidably obvious. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I am shocked by this. Ford used to be like synonymous with like a good deal, good value, good car.

Speaker 1 But like to go in and then like you're trying to get yourself in an affordable car and then you get a surprise $4,000 add-on.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fraud. That's just they're con artists.
Like that is insane. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's really, really slimy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And like not sending like the paperwork that you've signed and being like, oh, that guy didn't say this and that guy didn't say that.

Speaker 1 It's like, I hope that

Speaker 3 this blows up on social media because that seems to be sometimes the only thing that people take seriously.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Completely unique experience.

Speaker 1 Quite odd. Yeah.
I wonder how many people have had that happen to them and their car at the dealership. Clearly a few at that dealership.

Speaker 3 But I don't know if they've had the like sex, like the scratch marks and the gizz and the blood and the indents and the, oh my God, I can.

Speaker 1 I know. I can't wait till you guys see these pictures.
They're pretty.

Speaker 3 They're pretty damning. They're pretty.
As far as evidence goes, like that is some evidence.

Speaker 1 Well, and the fact he's already had that clean. Those are pictures like

Speaker 1 they're the thing. Well, those are probably taken before it was cleaned, but even the scratch marks and stuff, yeah, like the third party being like, yeah, no, we can't repair that.

Speaker 1 Like, it's replace only. Yeah.
Like, that's still there then.

Speaker 3 And even if you clean it, it's like, how deep of the cleaning can you really get at the end of the day?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 yeah, you can't. And if, like, the foam was crushed or torn, like, that's damaged to the foam or whatever material the seats and stuff is made out of.

Speaker 1 But that's just like so disheartening to like you spend your hard-earned money on this brand new vehicle and then by no fault of your own it's extremely damaged yeah which should be such an exciting experience and like really cool and i know yeah it's so sad when people are like like just so rude about your property too like have you ever been in your car when someone doors you i don't know oh my god i was at I don't even remember where, like Nordstrom Rack or somewhere shopping.

Speaker 1 I'm sitting in my car, like getting ready to go out, or I'd just gotten back in my car. Dude in a white Tesla rolls up, whips his door into the side of my car.

Speaker 1 And I'm in there and I rolled out my window. And I was like, Are you fucking serious? Oh my God.
I literally, like, I just instant rage. Yeah.
And I'm like, are you fucking serious?

Speaker 1 And he just goes, sorry, and walks away.

Speaker 3 Well, give me your insurance, asshole.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. You're fucking kidding me.

Speaker 3 I've been like, I had someone back into me and it was like, I honestly think it was like 18 year olds. And they were like, oh my God, I'm so sorry.
I was like, it's fine.

Speaker 3 And I drove away because my car is like so beat up that I was like, I'm not gonna ruin their day over this.

Speaker 1 God, I know I had a person rear-end me, and it just was like too much for me to deal with. And it was like a tiny bumper dent scratch, and I'm just like, I can't.

Speaker 3 My bumper is already so messed up that I was just like,

Speaker 1 That was my old car.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, Ugh.

Speaker 3 But if I had a new drive, best believe, I would be like, Hey, give me your insurance.

Speaker 1 Give me your insurance. Okay, moving on.
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Speaker 1 I'm gonna give you a choice, okay? Ooh. Okay, option one.

Speaker 1 Bride uninvited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded.

Speaker 3 Yes, that one. That one.
Are you sure? Okay, well, tell me what the other one is, but I'm really into that one.

Speaker 1 Or my brother-in-law invited me and my husband to an orgy.

Speaker 3 That's really compelling too, but I think the psychic. Like, that's, I think I'm into the psychic thing right now.

Speaker 1 The psychic? Yeah. Okay.
Sorry, guys.

Speaker 3 I feel like they're going to want the other one.

Speaker 1 It'll be on Patreon. It'll be on Patreon.
I'll give it to you next on Patreon. Perfect.
That's how we're perfect. We'll remedy that one.
Okay. So this is coming from our slash wedding shaming.

Speaker 1 Five days old. Bride invited half the guest list two weeks before the wedding because her psychic said the energy was too crowded.
I'm still processing this.

Speaker 1 The wedding was supposed to be this Saturday in Asheville. Was supposed to be.
My cousin Vanessa has always been into spiritual stuff. Crystals, tarot, astrology, whatever.
Fine.

Speaker 1 Not my thing, but you do you. But about six months ago, she started seeing this spiritual advisor who she treats like a therapist, life coach, oracle, all rolled into one.

Speaker 1 The wedding planning has been pretty normal up until last week. 200 people invited, venue booked, catering confirmed.
I'm a bridesmaid, so I've been somewhat involved in the planning.

Speaker 1 Last Tuesday, Vanessa sends out a group text to the bridesmaids saying we need to have an emergency call.

Speaker 1 We get on Zoom and she tells us that she had a session with her psychic, and the psychic told her that having over 80 people at the wedding would disrupt the spiritual alignment of the union and create energetic blocks in the marriage.

Speaker 1 She said she and her fiancé Matt decided to cut the guest list down to 75 people, two weeks before the wedding. We all kind of sat there in silence.

Speaker 1 Finally, one of the other bridesmaids asked how they were deciding who to un-invite, and Vanessa said the psychic helped her create an energy compatibility chart for all of the guests.

Speaker 1 Anyone who wasn't in alignment with their vibrational frequency got cut.

Speaker 1 This included Matt's entire extended family except his parents, most of Vanessa's coworkers, and about half of our family, including my parents.

Speaker 1 My parents, who already bought plane tickets and booked a hotel.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's two weeks before.

Speaker 1 She sent out a mass email that night, not even individual messages.

Speaker 1 Just a group email that said something like, after deep spiritual consultation, we've decided to honor our authentic truth by creating a more intimate ceremony. No.

Speaker 1 If you have received this email, it means your energy is not aligned with our sacred union at this time. Please respect our journey.

Speaker 3 That's so crazy.

Speaker 1 People are losing their minds. Matt's mom called my mom crying.
Multiple people are demanding their gifts back.

Speaker 1 Matt's brother posted something on Facebook about it, and Vanessa's response was to post a a quote about releasing toxic energy. Oh my God.
Here's the kicker. I didn't get uninvited.

Speaker 1 I'm still a bridesmaid, but my parents aren't invited anymore. I asked Vanessa how that makes sense.
And she said, your energy is evolved beyond your parents' energy. It's not personal.

Speaker 1 I told her, I'm not coming if my parents aren't invited. And she said, that's my choice, but I'm choosing fear over love.

Speaker 1 Then she asked if I'm still doing my bridesmaid duties this week because they need help setting up.

Speaker 1 The wedding is in four days. Last I heard, about 30 people have confirmed they're still coming.
The venue won't refund them because it's too late. Matt seems completely checked out.

Speaker 1 His family is furious. And Vanessa keeps posting Instagram stories about honoring your truth even when others don't understand.

Speaker 1 I don't even know if this wedding is still happening at this point.

Speaker 3 Have they joined a cult?

Speaker 1 This sounds like a cult.

Speaker 3 Like, already, I do think that there are, God, I even like know someone who I don't want to give too much away, but they were like seeing somebody for one thing.

Speaker 3 And then that person started giving them advice on like food and advice on like this and that and like life things.

Speaker 3 And it got to a place where it's like, why are you going to this person, not a therapist, by the way, like about all of these things? And they're like making the decisions about your life.

Speaker 3 And it's hard because I like want, I want to give people the freedom to like believe in what they believe in. And like, if they're into a little bit of like a woo-woo type thing, that's okay.

Speaker 3 But like, to this extent, no, this is absurd. This is someone who's like taking advantage of you because obviously like this has not made your wedding better.
This has ruined your wedding.

Speaker 1 It's ruined the whole thing and like and relationships.

Speaker 1 It's it's hard to note because like some people do just like deeply believe in stuff and like i believe in the power of psychics and i believe in you know certain woo-woo things but totally at the same time i wouldn't let someone convince me like oh all of these people are negative and you need to cut half them out and need to embrace people that are only on your frequency blah blah blah like at that point i'd be like oh yeah no this person is taking advantage of me But like, it does sound like a cult.

Speaker 1 People do get sucked into cults. Like, the other day, Kaylin was talking about Scientology and how like she accidentally like went through the courses and like literally paid for some of the courses.

Speaker 1 Wait, how? Was it like

Speaker 3 she's got, she had to like disguise as something else?

Speaker 1 Yeah. She like got invited to hang out with a friend and the friend was like, oh, you're already here.
You want to go to this meeting with me? And it was a Scientology meeting.

Speaker 1 And so like, I get when people can get into cults and like, oh, totally. You kind of lose sight of like reality, but it's like, it's hard to tell.
It's like, is it that? Is it a mental health crisis?

Speaker 1 Like, why is the fiancé so okay with this? Because if Justin woke up one day and was like, oh, we need to cut half the guest list. Yeah.
I'd be like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 Let alone, oh, this is two weeks before the wedding. Our money's gone.
Deposits have been paid. Everything's locked and loaded.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 3 It's such a negative place to start a marriage off of.

Speaker 3 And yeah, I mean, there are a lot of people, I think, who are susceptible to the kind of language that a cult uses or like, oh, you're a special person and you're so much more evolved than all these other people.

Speaker 3 And like, you should only be around X, Y, Z. And, and the reason that this hasn't worked out for you isn't your fault, but it's because of like these people not being good.

Speaker 3 Like, like, that obviously that sounds nice.

Speaker 3 And, like, people who are, you know, either experiencing a hard time with something or having insecurities about something, like, it sounds very good to hear that.

Speaker 3 And actually, you're such a special person. Like, who, who doesn't, as a child, think that they're a special person? I don't know.
I, I, it's, it's tough. And I don't like blame

Speaker 3 the people who end up in those situations because I think it can happen to a lot of different people. It doesn't mean like, oh, if that happens to you, you're stupid.

Speaker 1 No, no, I think it's honestly, I think the past couple of years have really shown us how easy it is to fall into cults. And like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Cults are cults because they're good at marketing and they know what language is going to suck people in. So I do think you can fall into a cult or a way of thinking and still be a smart person.

Speaker 1 Like it, it's

Speaker 1 not.

Speaker 3 It sucks, though. It's because like, what do you do as a family member or as like that bridesmaid? You don't be.

Speaker 3 Hell no. Yeah.
Hell no.

Speaker 3 But then it's like, are you not giving them like.

Speaker 3 If they're getting, I guess we don't actually know that they're in a cult, but if they're getting like sucked into a situation where they need to still have people from their regular life to like try to logic with them like is just cutting them off like

Speaker 1 i know because i think they say like you shouldn't cut people off especially in times of crisis but crises well

Speaker 1 but um this might be the wake-up call she needs because there hasn't really been a crazy thing like this yeah so this might be the oh no your actions are gonna have consequences enjoy your wedding oh my god wait i saw a tweet today let me make sure this is real and that I wasn't looking at paw bass or something like that.

Speaker 3 Kim Kardashian expresses her frustration in new TikTok vlog over psychics who told her she would pass the California bar exam only to fail.

Speaker 3 Which is like, maybe it'll be a moment like that where it's like, okay, they clearly lied to me. Like, this isn't making my wedding better.
But also, this was so funny.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. What you saw today.

Speaker 1 I saw, like, and this could be a rumor, but allegedly she used like chat GPT to study for the bar too. I think.
It's like, like girl, take out your fucking book. I think she said that.

Speaker 3 I think she actually said that she will ask ChatGPT like law questions. It's like, you are not going to pass if you need to do that.
Like, you should be the one knowing it.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I want to like study the way she did, where you just, like, study in your free time.

Speaker 3 Yeah, with like a private team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I, I've like thought about that. Like, now that I'm not doing OT, like, what other side quests can I kind of do? Like, that would just be interesting.

Speaker 1 I still want to take that civics class from Harvard with you. We talked about that.
Yeah. I want to do that.

Speaker 3 I like any kind of like archaeology type stuff. Like, those are fun.
Yeah. I've used it edX before.
And you can do a bunch of different, like, like Harvard does classes through them.

Speaker 3 Like, all types of colleges do classes with them. And a lot of them are free.
And then if you want to get a certificate in it, you pay for like the certificate version.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That makes sense. Yeah.
I just want to like, like, I know being a lawyer is hard. I know the bar is hard.
Like, Alhondra studying for her L Sat, like that was insane.

Speaker 1 I want to like just take one just to like see the vibe. Like, how bad can I do? Take a class or take the test, just like a little L sat, just like how bad.
Just a little L Just like to see.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, so curious what the questions are. Like, the logic games were so insane.

Speaker 3 Interesting. I have no idea what it consists of, besides, like, playing Elle Woods and League Liblan, the musical, my sophomore year of high school.

Speaker 1 That's a flag.

Speaker 3 The closest I know.

Speaker 1 No chaos. El Woods easy.

Speaker 3 175. I know she got 175 in the musical.

Speaker 1 No, I just like, I'm, I'm a little bored right now. I'm finding that I need a hobby.

Speaker 3 Let's, we can do sewing.

Speaker 1 I know. I did learn how to sew-ish.
Like, I can turn it on and press the pedal and do a straight line. So I need to like

Speaker 1 start going to some classes.

Speaker 1 Hobbies are really important. Sewing, just not the law school route.
I don't have to, I don't have time for that realistically, but I'm just curious about it.

Speaker 3 Yep. Well, that's, I think that's beyond like a hobby.

Speaker 1 That's like, I know, I don't need it. I don't need to consume your life.
I don't need it. I can read my basic contracts well enough.
And then I have a lawyer. So I'm fine.
I'm just so curious.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, this, this little study on the side baby bar method. I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 I do think she is like spending a lot of time on it. I just don't

Speaker 3 think it's the same as like full-time going to school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, very different.

Speaker 3 And clearly it's not working out for her.

Speaker 1 So no.

Speaker 1 Top comment on this one. Don't go to that wedding.
Don't help. She's crazy.
Tell her that she is bad energy for you. Ooh, that speak her language a little bit.

Speaker 3 Try to communicate with her in a way she understands. I actually think your vibrations have been low lately.

Speaker 1 I think something about your oracle, she's disrupting your energy and it's not putting out what people would like to receive.

Speaker 3 I think I see a darkness coming out of your aura that wasn't there before.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 Next comment down. And what kind of doormat allows his entire family to be cut from the guest list? Yes.
His name was Matt. Oh.
Doormat.

Speaker 3 You know what? There was a guy I was talking to named Matt, and he had me put his name in my phone as not a doormat because I needed to hear that, I guess.

Speaker 1 Not a doormat? You needed to stand up for yourself a little bit?

Speaker 1 A lot of comments, just people like, so she thinks you'd still want to show up and provide free labor when you have said you won't come to the wedding. That's a new level of entitlement.

Speaker 1 Like, basically, just like this, this gal has lost all sense of reality.

Speaker 1 I would love an update with this one. OP did delete the post.
OP did delete their account.

Speaker 3 I bet they found it and it's become like a family drama.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good old family drama.

Speaker 3 It's hard because if you're someone's bridesmaid, like you're very good friends. And if I had a friend go through this, I would be concerned about them.

Speaker 3 Like, obviously, there's the root of you're an asshole and you're being crazy, but it's also like, are you in a situation where this like oracle person is taking advantage of you?

Speaker 3 Like, I would also do my best to try to reach them in a way about what's going on and be like, hey, I'm worried about you. Like, this can't be good.
I don't know. Something's got to give.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, I mean, that guy's.

Speaker 1 Got to call it. Like, if she wants to live this spiritual life, then she can do it.
But you're cutting off half your family for what? Like, for her delusions?

Speaker 3 No, it sounds like he might also be kind of in it. Like, it said that they talked and they agreed on who they'd remove from the list.
True, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 All of these have been incredible experiences. I don't think a single one of them is a unique experience that I'm jealous of.
No,

Speaker 3 they all are completely unique experiences, and thank God for that. Can't tell which one I'd hate the most.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. I mean, I'm just like, I'm mad by them all.
Like the car dealership one,

Speaker 1 the cat one really set me off from the jump. That one was really brutal.

Speaker 1 All of them.

Speaker 3 The anatomy textbook.

Speaker 1 Do you remember where we were when that happened?

Speaker 3 That was like a lifetime ago. That feels like ages ago.
Where were you when you first heard that story?

Speaker 1 I wish I didn't hear it. I wish I could unhear some of these.
But that's all I got, you guys. We are headed over to Patreon with this very same theme, some unique experiences.

Speaker 1 We've got some good ones. Again, just kind of crazy, weird.

Speaker 3 I really like the stories that we did on the bonus episode.

Speaker 1 I know they're really good. And one of these, obviously, that I teased is going to go over there.
So I'm going to record that right now. But thank you so much for being here another episode.

Speaker 1 And head over to Patreon if you want more. There is a free story, one that I teased with Sal that's going to be over there as a free story.
So come on over and join us.

Speaker 1 But other than that, until next time.

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