247: That's a Wrap Ft. Scott Evans

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Do you know what you're getting into? No idea. I mean, yes, a little.
Okay. I've watched episodes.
I've seen you. I've seen you work.
I've seen you. And I've always wondered if you had,

like, do you write to yourself to your posts? Like, do you, like, are you like, I'm going to say this on this one? I'm going to say this on this one.

Um, no, honestly, like, I'll read them, make sure they're good enough for the show. And then I feel like I totally blank out on what my thought was.
So then when I have them come back up, it's fresh.

It feels like I have amnesia. Yeah.
It's kind of weird.

There's one, there was one in particular, the episode with Hannah, and she was, that was the, the wife who was considering divorce because the family didn't like her. Oh my God.
Yeah. I was like,

I was like,

girl, bye. Bye.
Bye.

Yeah. Nobody likes you and your husband is cool with that? Does your husband even like you? He don't like you, girl.
He doesn't like you.

He don't love you, girl. No.

I couldn't believe it. You might have some of those today.
It hurt me. It hurt me deep.
I was like, girl, go live your life. Be happy.
I know. And she was like 27.

Girl, be in a life that you love with people who love you.

Of her life. You are excited when you walk in the room.

I also needed to know some more information about that family.

I want to know everything. I want to be a fly on the wall.
I needed some demographic breakdown, if you know what I'm saying.

Are we? Where are we? Are we in Texas? Are we in? I know. Are we in Minneapolis? Are we in? It felt European to me.
I don't know why. It did? It felt European.
Like, white? Is that what you mean?

Honestly. Or you mean like Europe?

I, for some reason, I don't know why in my head, I was envisioning like an Indian family given like the hierarchy. Okay.
I don't know.

It's so interesting because you ask people what they envision in their heads. during the readings and everyone's going to have such a different

reading mental image. Like sometimes I won't say genders and like my friend Lauren will like assume genders and like they're always like when we find out more the opposite.
So interesting.

I know sometimes I do themes where I haven't done it in like probably a year or two where I'll take out all the genders and just like you don't here's the information. Here's the info.

Now, right, because it's like if if there was no gender, would your opinion change? Sometimes it does. Yeah, of course.
We're all a little biased. Baby.
We're all a little biased.

We out here just trying to do our, most of us are out here trying to do our best.

That's literally all i'm trying to do literally just my best baby just wake up every day and be nice try my best try my best but y'all try me

scott said

spicy today i'm feeling spicy

too

shut up

i'm so excited to have you we met doing spotify wrapped content yeah and from that i was just like okay he can get up he's funny yeah let's have charismatic you had a good time you have your wits about you yeah

you're just you're on it so for those that don't know the scott lore uh-oh who are you let's talk about your podcast which is like having the best first year i think out of any podcast i've recently discovered oh my gosh you're just on it but like you've done access hollywood i also just found out you host like a dancing show yeah i hosted world of dance on nbc insane jennifer lopez derek cuff and neo insane okay so yeah give everyone the lore if they're not familiar yeah so i mean i've been working in this business for a very very very long time and entertainment I've worked in hard news first was a reporter for at CBS News in New York That's amazing with a show called Channel One News.

I don't know if you ever had that in your school

but it was like a national broadcast with Anderson Cooper Lisa Ling Maria Menuno so we're all famous or famously anchored the show and so I got the opportunity to anchor the show as well and it was a dream of mine.

That's amazing. And then was like okay I'm tired of covering the worst of the world.
It's time to get into entertainment. And then did that with Access Hollywood been there for over 10 years now.

This last year, I was like, wow,

there's got to be more conversations. Six-minute conversations can only feed you for so long.
Yeah, you need a little more. I wanted a little more.

So we started House Guest as a way to, also, so I could just practice late night. I want Jimmy Fallon's job.
I want to be clear. Ooh.

Jimmy, I love you. And I told him this.
I was like, I'm coming for you. I said, breath.
I'm coming for you. I'm just, I want you to know

the moment you're ready, holla me. I love that.
And so I wanted to get my hours up. And so we, we started the show.
And I thought it was going to be a place for me to like practice in kind of private.

Yeah. The first episode went viral and I was like, oh.
Who's your very first guest? Kev on stage, Kevin Fredericks, comedian here in Los Angeles, who has become like a very, very good friend.

And yeah, then it was like, it was on after that, like every single episode. And so I didn't get the opportunity to really practice in private.

And so now it's like all out there and you just roll with it.

And so now it's kind of like, if the Jimmy Fallon job never, if the tonight show never happens, I'm good with it because HouseGuest is so fulfilling. It is crazy.

I think that's something that in terms of like content and how everything's changing in recent years, like there's certain podcasts that reach more people every week than the late night shows.

There's, there's more podcasts. Like you think about all these big publications too.
Like I had someone in a call. They're like, your show is bigger than Vogue's subscription.

Like, you're getting more eyes on you than that. It's just like that concept, that was like a part of the reason why I was okay leaving OT.

And I think, like, kind of coming to terms with, like, no, no, no, this is like, this is actually what I want. Yeah, you get over here.

And it was like the concept where I'm reaching more people every week than I would in an entire career of working in a hospital doing OT. And that in my head, I was like, whoa, okay, that's crazy.

Yeah.

And, and also, like,

to understand

the goal that you have, the drive that you have, the passion that you've developed in this,

to separate yourself from it and what feels like helps you get out of the bed some days. Yeah.
Because also, those, the, the paths that many of us took before this was an opportunity for us,

you, it beats you down, man. And not to say that this is not hard.
It doesn't have its challenges and obstacles to overcome as well, but you are in charge of it.

Yeah, you realize just what a privileged position you're in. It's just, I wake up every day and I'm like, do I want to like feel in a little burnout or I'm in my blue era, whatever I'm dealing with.

And I'm like, yeah, I don't really want to, but like, it is truly, it is a gift. I get to do this.
So it's really, it's really cool. And your show is amazing.

I just saw clips from you when you had Kiki Palmer on. Oh, my God.
I mean, your guests are just amazing. And you do such a good job

having those intimate combos and keeping it light and fun. Well, yeah, when you bring people to your house, so house guests is literally shot at my house.

At your house, like literally at my house, and it's a very small crew. We keep our footprint very, very small.
And so, I was talking to actually to Nici Nash.

Um, are you watching All's Fair on Hulu, by the way, yet? Because if you are not with Kim Kardashian, I haven't started. No, girl,

you got homework to do. Okay, because I keep getting mixed reviews on my TikTok feed.
Yeah, go ahead. Let the, let the reviews, it's got a season two.
Oh, let the reviews, let the reviews come back.

let the reviews be mixed, but get your butt in front of that screen. It is so, it's, it's like you can't stop watching the show.

But I had Nisi Nash on, and, you know, she, she talks about the idea of being in a position where you have the kind of problems you prayed for, having the kind of issues in your life or, or worries in your life that you dreamed of one day being able to.

to be, you know what I mean, concerned with. And so, yeah, you just, you keep going.

And I don't, I ain't trying to tell you what, but if you get to those points and you're like, okay, I'm feeling a little, you can control that. Shift it.
Yeah.

Shift it. I don't think we take enough license sometimes in our own lives.
We just feed it, whatever it is. I know.

And I, I mean, the more you like solidify an idea in your head, the stronger it gets. So it's like, you just, I like try to like totally just get out of my funk.
I have found a $35 massage place.

And so when I'm feeling sad, I just go there. I'm sorry.
Yeah.

But then I leave like a $15 tip. Do you have to leave?

You have to leave leave California for you. No, it's right down the street.
You do leave your clothes on. I'm sorry.

There's different levels to the massage they offer.

Are you serious? Yeah. So this one, they call it a foot massage, but it's not.
They do your whole body still, but your clothes are on. Is the massage clothes? The masseuse's clothes are on also?

For $35, I just want to know what I'm getting into. I just want to know.

How long is the massage? It's the best place ever. It's in Burbank.
It's next to the Canes. If anyone wants to try it, I'm already in the city.

You are already crying you're already blow up my spot please

right i really i just like i'm i call and like i can get in within five minutes like they're so great so you walk in the door you go in this like big open room with like 10 chairs and you sit in the chair and they say it's a communal yeah it's communal that's why it's 35 okay beggars can't be choosers no you know you're not wrong i just i'm just trying to okay and then you sit in a circle It's like deeply reclined.

Wait,

is it just a normal, a regular person massaging you? It's like someone else who's sitting in a chair. Do you massage the person that's sitting in front of you?

No, and then the person behind you massages you people work there massage you it's not like the monkey picking bugs out of each other's yeah i was like

no it's it's it's legit okay it's legit and they do offer real massages too i just have i think in my mind it's like in a school gymnasium and like maybe it's an aa meeting it's like a little room this size i'd say and then like just chairs all about but you get in and then you put your feet in a warm bucket of water and while they're working on your the feet are soaking and getting warm right they massage your head your shoulders They do like some lymphatic drainage type stuff.

Step into bed, okay? Like arms, and then they move to your feet. And your feet come out of the bucket and they go up.
And then they're really doing a foot massage and leg massage.

And then they like, they like step on your thighs.

And then they roll you over. And then they do your back and your neck and your head and just everything.
How long? An hour. For $35.

Yeah. And then I do a $15 tip because it feels for $35.

Yeah. $35.

Isn't it a deal? It's only 55 if you want to take your clothes off.

Okay, it's but like, you know what I mean? If you want the traditional one,

I don't know.

If you want to take your clothes off, it costs $55.

You don't, yeah. For an hour?

Have you ever seen other people in there with you? Yeah. Okay.
It's usually booked up.

Wow. I know.
This is why I like cannot travel. Like, if I go like France, I went and there was a spa or Iceland.
There's a spa there. I can't get massages anywhere else because it's like 200 bucks.

And I'm like, I got that at home. I'm just

at home. We got massages at home.
It's $55 at home.

We got massages at home. Yeah.
So I. Maybe I'm not doing none of that.
Yeah.

What you want?

Chick-fil-A. I got Chick-fil-A at home.
Exactly. That's funny.
Yeah. So it's a good time.
Yeah, I'm about to run up on that. It's right down the street.
It's down the street. Hell yeah.

Come on. You can't beat that with a big stick.

Okay, but on a not-so-happy note, let's get into the dip-dip-dip. Dibbit Depth.
Let's get into today's stories. Okay.

Are you going to hit me hard the first time? Are you

off the street? I think so. Yeah.

I know you. You can handle it.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Am I going to, I'm going to massage after this. Yeah, you're going to need to release some tension and some like

pent-up energy. Let's do it.
Since we met, since we met at the the wrapped, that's a wrap. That's the theme today.
That's a wrap. That's a wrap.
Oh, shit. Let's dive in.
Let's do it.

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This first one. Coming from R/Relationship advice, 13 days old, titled, I think I, 32 female, nuked my relationship with my boyfriend, 32 male, by drawing a hard line.

My boyfriend and I have been together for nearly two years, living together for one.

He had purchased his house prior to us dating, and I was renting an apartment, so it made sense for me to move into his house.

He continued to pay the mortgage, and I took on all of the usage bills, all of the utilities and annual maintenance, as well as the grocery shopping, And we felt that was a fair split.

As our anniversary is coming up, we've been talking about our future timelines and where we see our relationship progressing. We're on the same page with all of the big issues.

We know we want to marry each other and start a family following that. But to be in a position to start a family, the house is going to need a lot of renovations.

And we've always thrown around the idea that the cost of renos would be my buy-in.

So to stay on the house. From our estimates, everything we want to do would be around 100K on the low end.

We even agreed that we could draw up some kind of agreement to protect both of our interests financially.

As it's gotten closer to the reality of reaching out to contractors and banks, I've felt more and more unsettled about the situation. I bet you did.

I feel confident in our relationship, but foolish to be making an investment in a boyfriend's asset.

I told him that I would like to be engaged before starting this process. So I feel like he's making a commitment to me as much as I am to him.

We've talked about being engaged prior to this, but he said adding this element makes it feel very transactional and takes away from the romance and sparkle of it all. The spot.

I didn't tell him I wanted to be engaged by a specific date or anything like that, just that if this renovation is what we wanted to pursue, This is the action I'd like to take beforehand.

He seemed upset by my statement, and I feel like I've really taken some of the romance and surprise out of the idea of a proposal or being engaged.

The morning after this conversation, he was cold and tense, and I can't help but feel I've done irreparable damage, but I don't feel wrong in making the request. Am I being reasonable?

Is this recoverable?

Honest answer? Yeah, we want nothing but honesty here. There is no irreparable damage here.

Honestly, this is

common sense.

And if homeboy wants to throw a tantrum because he can't get his renovations done on the timeline he thought he'd be able to get them done without the consideration of her beyond her wallet, then, brother,

keep it moving. And I also think it's interesting that you start the post with,

We want renovations done for a potential baby. Yeah.

And now having

the promise of marriage before that is like a, oh, you've ruined. So there's already kind of like a situation in there.

But I'm going to just say this for me

and in my life,

I'm not making

large financial decisions

with people. that doesn't reflect the same intensity as that as that financial

investment. And so like, I'm not going to be paying for the renovations of the home we both live in and I'm not on a mortgage and we're not married.
I mean, really, it's just there's no strings.

Like there's literally all he can do is like he can take that 100K and then say bye and she's left with nothing at the end of the day. Yeah.
And I don't know like contract.

He's like, oh, we can draw up a contract to protect ourselves financially. Like you can.
You can, but like you can, you can draft.

I mean, you can draft up a contract that can say anything for anything at any point. As long as people agree to it.
Then, like, that's what the agreement is, usually.

Yeah, but like, how is it going to be enforceable? Like, for if he can't afford a 100K renovation to get the house where it needs to be, because then he could put it in his prenup. This is my house.

I, this is everything before marriage. I'm keeping the house at the end of the day.
That's his.

But if he doesn't have the 100K for the reno, baby, then we don't have a reno. And like, then we don't have a reno.
What are you going to have to do to pay me back?

Sell your house so you can pay me back the 100K I invested?

Well, I think that's the idea that the buy into the house is that she's, she would, with the, with the 100K investment of the, the, the renovation, she would then be entitled to the value of the house in reflection of that 100K.

Yeah, because you're going to have a lot of equity right there. Hello? Hopefully.
Yeah. But that's going to

be. But if it's a good area, you know.
I know. Because, like, we could be renovating a house.
We shouldn't be renovating. We should maybe be buying a new house.
Well, that's the thing.

I'm like, how much was this house? Like, what was his buy-in?

Was his buy-in, you know, this is a 200K house and he put 20k down like what's his buy-in also it's like the idea is that if you are concerned about well this don't seem like the sparkle is gone well then get the sparkle back yeah like we got to have real ass conversations about life and we can't be always chasing the sparkle you know what i'm saying because the 100k don't have no sparkle to it No.

Also, if you can't have that conversation of like, I'd like more of a commitment before I give you 100K. Whoa.
if you're out, you're really ruining the whole, like, well, now I'm on a timeline.

We're already on a timeline, bitch.

You're giving me a reno because we want to get married and have a baby, and we can't do that until we renovate. Bullshit! Bullshit! Get engaged, have your wedding.

Takes nine months for a baby to cook. You can do a reno in that amount of time.

Hey, breh. Come on.
Hey, breh. We're on to you.
Shit's expensive. I know.

Weddings are expensive, but like, you're saying this is for us like if we're doing the renovation yeah it's because you're like i want to have i want to be with you and i want to have a baby with you and i want our home to be ready to receive and help grow our family yeah show me that

because i'm gonna start writing these checks to these contractors yeah show me show me that yeah and they don't have return policies no they do i can tell you they don't and and when you start playing with contractors money They crazy.

They'll come after you. They will come after you.
And they got tools. Okay.

They got and deep ditches is all I'm saying. I've seen the movies.
I've seen them. Oh my God.
It's also, it's also, don't you think it's a little strange

that

the take is I've nuked my relationship

because we're having a hard conversation. I think there's bigger issues here.
There's clearly some bigger issues here.

And it seems like maybe she's tuned into a frequency that's like, we're not doing the best. Well, it's all like, she's walking on eggshells.
She's anticipating a really bad reaction.

It's like, but why?

Because he throws tantrums. This is a fine conversation.
Oh, yeah. Because he throws tantrums.
Yes. And now he's cold.
And so now you're going to raise two kids.

You got two babies. Oh, I've had so many of those lately.
Why? Why? Is that what you're going to do? You sound like you already got a baby. I know.
So my dad has a podcast. He gives dad advice.

We just had a listener write in on his show. She's got two kids, six and four.
And her kids are not even comfortable enough with her husband their dad to ask him for a snack because he's such like

no they can't even go to their dad and be like dad can i have a snack they don't have a relationship with him no he's so checked out he comes home early from work and plays his video games and it's like you ma'am you don't have two kids you have you have three she does everything in their house it's hard being a single mom cleansed it's hard being a single mom and you are at that point you are girl so what did he say what did your father say i'm curious my dad.

What was the advice? Because I would feel like I would be.

What's the address? He kind of, yeah, no, he tore him a new one. And my dad's like, he needs to just get off the fucking video games.

But we, we definitely, we went, we went in on him a little bit. I mean, you got, that's crazy.
I know. Two and four, you said? Four and six, I believe.
Look, I, I,

he's now a two-year-old. Damn, that's crazy.
I know.

Couldn't be me. But these two, they've only been together two years.

I mean, I think that's much too quick to give someone a hundred k of your money here's what i'm gonna say also it's it might be in my opinion also much too quick to get engaged what's your what's that feel like

two years you moved in directly with each other because right it would be a more cost effective moved in about a year ago yeah so like you're getting a better clue into who this man is going to be as a life partner And what's really happening is not that you've neutral relationship, but that you're seeing some red flags pay attention.

Yeah. Because because they're only gonna they're the red flags are either only gonna grow into bigger flags

parachutes

wind sales oh my god yes you know and so like pay when they watch when they're small listen to that shit when it's a little or when it's a whisper yeah as opposed to when it's shouting at you in the the middle of the hallway absolutely and top comment kind of says something similar they go forget engaged don't Don't do this unless you're married and on the deed.

19K upvotes on that. I mean,

I had to upvote that. Yep.
Here, I'll give him one for you. Tap that.

Next comment down, this OP. People can always break engagements, but it's harder to break a deed.
Do not put a penny of your money if you're not on that deed. You'll be screwing yourself.

And not in a good way. No, not a fun way.
And that's the thing.

Like, who knows what he's going to say in terms of a prenup, too like there's no safety like here like it's literally just like you're just handing it over there is no safety if you hand it over i know and it does sound it does sound like there's a fair amount of maybe manipulation that's at play in their relationship if this feels like i've nuked it because i've i'm not in agreement with you because we're not in agreement right now it feels like Well, if I don't automatically just agree with you, then he's so angry with me and so cold with me that I just want to do anything I can to avoid that.

And that is so toxic. Yeah, that's manipulation, girl.
Yeah.

Here is a story that someone red flag. You know, there's one next to you if you want to use it.

There's a flag on the play.

Hey.

Someone shares this. I know a single mom who was dating a guy that convinced her to sell her house, then invest the money she made from the sale into renovating his house.

Her name was not on the deed. Less than a year later, they got into a fight.
She came home from work with her daughter the next day.

The locks had been changed, and her and her daughter were stuck living in hotels for a few months while she saved enough money for a deposit on an apartment.

The about $120K she invested in his house was considered a gift, and there is no legal recourse for her to get this money back.

That's insane. You want that to be you, girl?

You want that to be you?

I mean, that's true.

And it really is that simple. Like, it's not even like, that's not even an emotional thing.
That's not like a, oh, I, that's just not smart. No, that's just not smart.

I know we have like some lawyers listening or like paralegals or whoever out there. And you're just like screaming.
You're like, don't do it. Baby, you could be a 14-year-old,

what's the Fortniter. And you know, that don't make no sense.
And clearly she does too, because that's why she wrote it on Reddit. That's why she was like, I got to make sure I'm not crazy.
Yeah.

And that's kind of what she said. There's like a comment

here, and she's just like, Thanks for all your responses. And she says, seeing a neutral third party like a relationship counselor seems like a really good move before taking any other action.

So no breakup. They're still together.
A relationship counselor sounds like an automatic, but also this is, if you mean, you got to mean what you say. And this is a very basic thing.

Super basic. And also a major red flag.
If, if this if this is all playing out the way that that she's describing it I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.
No, uh

Okay, moving on to this next one. Okay coming from R/slash off my chest.
Okay. 28 days old titled My mother-in-law planned 75th birthday extravaganza for herself

on my birthday at my house.

My husband and I live in a castle in Italy where we host weddings and events. It's a lot of work.
Stop.

Stop.

We live in a castle in Italy. Castle.
Man, if you don't leave me alone about throwing this 75th birthday party, you have a castle. Okay?

You got more castle to go throw your birthday party into. I'm sorry, go ahead.
I skipped ahead. I just heard castle in Italy and it's like, yeah, of course we're throwing it at your house.

It's a lot of work, but we now have staff, so we're not doing everything ourselves. My mother-in-law decided she wanted to throw her 75th birthday party here.

She had a massive party here four years ago with 60 guests that I helped her plan every detail of. This time, I said, fine, as long as I don't have to plan it.

I passed her off to our event manager to handle all the logistics. As you do when you live in a castle.

Fast forward to me seeing our booking calendar, and she booked the entire thing on my actual birthday.

Not the weekend before, not her own birthday, which is five days later. Nope, she chose my birthday, which this year falls on a Tuesday.
I knew you were going to say Tuesday.

I knew you, this had Tuesday energy. This is a spec she's doing.
This is a specific thing. A random weekday.
Her birthday is on a Sunday. Why wouldn't she do it over the weekend on her own birthday?

Because, girl, you know why she didn't. She invited 30 plus guests.
all flying in from another country who will be staying at my house for three nights.

The big celebration, which will be a multi-course dinner, cake, and dance party, all scheduled on my actual birthday. She asked if I wanted to choose the cake flavor.

Quote, since it's technically your birthday, I told her, no, it's your birthday now. Because I can't imagine going up with her to have her friends sing us happy birthday together.

For months, I was delusional enough to think that this was some kind of elaborate surprise party for me. That's what I was thinking.
Because who would do this otherwise? This is great.

And I told her I was going to be out of town and she said she would cry every day if I'm not there. This is a surprise.

Then my husband said he hoped I would be there so the whole family could be together. But today my husband picked up a literal busload of her friends and the reality hit.
Nope.

This week is all about her. Oh, wait.
So I'm stuck hosting a birthday bash for my mother-in-law on my own birthday, surrounded by her friends speaking a language I struggle with.

I've never been a birthday Zilla person, but a cozy morning with my family and a walk in the forest, then out to dinner in the city has been the norm. However, that's no longer possible.

Yesterday, I felt fine about it all and helped her make the gift bags for all of her guests and I decorated inside the castle with a bunch of birthday things. But today, I feel awful and anxious.

I'm probably thinking it will be worse than it actually will be.

If it were a random clients event, I could just hide away and celebrate with my husband and kids, but now everyone will be focused on her. Is this as outrageous as it feels?

Yes.

Really? It is as outrageous as it feels. Okay.
Because you live in a castle in Italy. I don't know.
And I just feel like

if also,

here's what I'll say. Okay.
It feels a little outrageous to me because if all you want to do is take a walk in the morning with the family

and go to dinner, you can still do that. You can still absolutely do that.
And if you have a staff castle event planner, they can manage the party while you go have dinner with your husband.

And then you arrive to the party a little tardy. Fashionably late.
It's your birthday. It's your birthday and y'all's castle.

The castle part is so insane. She's sending me every time.
All I see is her like up in the what is it?

The tall, yeah, the tallest tower,

the tallest tower, and she's like, but it's my birthday. Oh, she's too nice, too nice.
She decorated the castle for her. She didn't decorate no damn castle.
She said, I decorated the castle.

Mariah Carey says she decorates the house too. She doesn't actually decorate the house.
I don't know.

These people seem like they bought like an old run-down Italian castle for a dollar and then redid it themselves and they just fell deeper in love during the process. It's giving inheritance to me.

It's giving

what is it? What is it?

Count

it's giving what is it? My lord. Malord.
Oh my gosh. I don't know.
And I also feel like my son, my, when I went to go pick up the friends,

there's got to be a certain level of devastation when you think, oh, wait, this is all just a ruse

to get me, to surprise me. But like, I would have thought that too.
I would have, but then I'm like, y'all are good. You pick up the friends and it just is like cemented.
These aren't my friends. No.

Do we have an update? Was it actually her, her party? We have no update. Okay.
Did she die?

Maybe from the heartache? Yeah. Could have.
Yeah, there's no other comments. I mean, top comment, which was my thought too, celebrate your birthday on hers.

Sleep in, go for a walk with the family, go out to dinner. It's a Sunday, so you you can have the entire day to yourselves.
Birthday swap. I mean, pick your day.
She stole your day.

Saturday is a better day. I would throw a party at your castle on Saturday and say, fuck you.
And it's also, it's not her birthday Saturday. So she can't be like, it's my birthday too.

No, bitch, it's tomorrow.

And it was Tuesday.

So, no, it's not your birthday. Like, take over Saturday and make it a bad thing.
Do you really have this kind of, like, these kind of battles with the in-laws? Yeah.

Did you ever experience this like with exes or people that you were you were dating? Did you ever have this kind of tense,

like back and forth, this tense energy relationship with the in-laws?

Yeah, I think especially when you're new, like there's kind of like, oh, well, who's going to get that time during, you know, the holidays or things like that?

And you kind of have to like establish new norms or like of course. Or no, no, no, this is how we're doing it this year.

And like, I mean, I feel like holidays always bring a little drama, but especially when you're trying to blend and like be the new girlfriend and come in and you're like stirring the pot.

That would be my question also. I think that has a lot to do with

some of the dynamic of this is who's

whose castle? Yeah. Like, was this, did we go and buy this castle together? That is, is this

my husband's castle that, or my husband's family's castle that we moved, that we were gifted at the wedding? And now. Does that make a difference? Like, because I

do see, like, mom sounds like she's a little entitled to the castle. Correct.
So does that make a difference in your head? It does. It does make a difference in my head.

Also, she had access to the event calendar for the castle and picked that day. Yeah.
Who gave her access to, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't just get access to the event calendar.

You should have said, here's the dates available. Here are the dates available.

Maybe.

Well, now that you know you're working with a evil mother-in-law, like whatever. Monster-in-law.
Yeah.

Now that you know that you're dealing with monster-in-law, you can be on your toes a little bit more going forward, which sucks.

It sucks having to like Jedi mind trick people and like think 10 steps ahead so they don't rain on your parade. Yeah.
But you need to with her. But

it could be 10 steps ahead so you don't rain on your parade. Or also, also, we're just dealing with reality.
Yeah.

The reality is you will take advantage of the situation if I allow you to take advantage. And so I'm going to create a better boundary here.
And sorry, ma'am. Ma'am.
Ma'am.

Ma'am her back into place. You know, exactly.
Ma'am, happy birthday. But you need to sit your ass down on a Tuesday.
Just not on my actual birthday. Like there's no

good reasoning. Like all of her friends flying in, flying in on a Monday and being there during the week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that's harder than a weekend.
You know what I'm going to tell you?

Come on. You know what I'm going to tell you? Tell me.
It's going to really fuck him up. You know what she should have done?

She should have planned a birthday party of her own on tuesday in the castle i would have bigger louder yeah like girl no go ahead happy birthday and i'll pop in yeah me and my game when they sing happy birthday to you yeah when your cake comes down yeah when that moes flow and then i'll be there yeah yeah yeah yeah let me know let me know and you want me to pick the cake i i have just the thing

no matter of fact let it be a surprise no cake cake bakery messed up oh

oh you're going that method i was gonna say relaxatives but that felt a little dark. No, shit cake is, I mean, shit cake could be whatever you want it to be.
Open to interpretation.

I'm just saying. Don't piss Scott off, okay? Hell no.
You'll get a shit cake. In my castle? Oh, yeah, no.
Yeah, you're getting a shit cake. Hell no.
Ma'am.

Happy birthday.

And your cake is going to say, happy birthday, ma'am. Ma'am.
Yeah, you feel that 75 years. It's ma'am.
Ma'am.

Someone does kind of say, talk to your husband husband since he does not seem to get it. Spell it out for him clearly.

And if I were you, I would sneak out for a couple of hours to do something on my own with the kids and husband. It can't rationally be all your mother-in-law, even now.

So they're kind of being like, hubby's got some

little boundary issues. But you know what also happens in relationships? We say things we don't mean, hoping that the partner will just get it.
So like when you say, no, it's fine, it's fine.

Don't, don't worry about me. Don't worry about me.
What you're also saying is, I want this to be a big deal for you so that I don't seem like a crazy person. Yeah.

I want you to care a little bit more about this because you can clearly see I'm affected by it. Yeah.
And I'm trying my very best. My feelings

would be so hurt. Like even if you're not a huge birthday person,

it's still nice having one day out of the year that is just like solely about you. A little bit about you.
Especially she's a mom. She's got kids.
No other day is about her. Hello.

Even her birthday is probably not about her. And it certainly isn't this year.
Right. So, like, fuck.

Also, imagine if it was like a big, if it was a milestone birthday and you were like taken of that.

But also, you gave the date. I know.
I'm going to just be honest. You also gave the date.
I don't know. I feel like I would just be like, here's the calendar.
Like, here's what you're working with.

I would never assume she'd pick my birthday when it's your 75th fucking birthday.

Throw the party on Saturday and go till midnight. So at midnight, you light fucking shit off.
Right. And then you're with all of your people as you turn 75.

You picked a Tuesday. Also, dumb bitch.

Yes.

I love when you get like this.

I love when you get like this. Why is she so dumb? Like, what a dumb

talk. Also, what kind of birthday party really is a 75-year-old throwing? Like, that shit's going to be over at six o'clock.
No, I'm going to throw a rager.

Yeah, but we're not talking about Chris Jenner. Do you know what I'm saying? Chris Jenner got her own castle.
I think old people party harder than you think.

I'm gonna just tell you this: I was at a dinner yesterday at the Biltmore. Well, that sounds

and what

came six o'clock.

In these orthopedic shoes, they were ready to get up out of there. Okay, that's all I'm saying.
What

beverages were provided? Alcoholic ones, you know, sugars, sugar spike. You know, people got

compression socks on and all kinds of stuff. Underneath the gala gown.
And

people got to go to bed. I'll tell you right now, my grandma's 83 and she parties.

She parties. She parties.
She gets that wine flowing. She'll do an impromptu speech here and there.
Where does she live?

Minnesota. Exactly.
See what I'm saying?

What? You're talking about somewhere with a castle. I don't know.
My aunt that lives out in here in LA, she gets pretty hammered. She hires a little catering team for her house.

Older.

She wouldn't like me to say.

I'm just saying. I'm just saying the party probably ain't going to last that long anyway.
Yeah.

You know, I mean, certainly not on a Tuesday. Right.
Going up on a Tuesday. Club going up.
On a Tuesday. Well, they got that one.
Well, wait, hold on a second. If, if, if old lady knows that,

she might be, she might be in the, yeah, she'd be like yin-yang twins and she's telling me Uncle Luke. I think old people in Europe also really know how to party.
They know how to do it.

They know how to do it. So I don't.
Go have a good time, girl. Go have a good time.
Buy yourself something nice. Honestly, I'd get really drunk and make it about you.

That's the one time where I think you could sabotage someone's party. What she should do is go buy herself a really beautiful necklace

on her husband's credit card. Yes.
As a birthday gift. Okay.
And make that the focus of the, look at what my husband got me for my birthday

while she eats a shit cake.

Done. I want the recipe.
I'm like very scared. Done.

Okay. Moving on to this next one.
No problem. I'm ready.
Now I'm primed. I'm ready.
Are you? Yeah.

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Okay, number three.

This is coming from AITAH, 28 days old, titled, My Dad Died, My Significant Other is Mad, He Has to Make Dinner.

After moving to our home state nearly a year ago, after seven years of my significant other complaining how our new state sucked and he missed home, I've been working full-time in a demanding job I do really love.

Unfortunately, significant other has been unemployed for over a year, applying to only about 15 jobs in that time. We both chose to move home to be near our parents, and that's been mostly positive.

I lost my stepmother in August, requiring I drive to another state to take care of a Gray Gardens type situation. I thought that was the most traumatic things that I'd have to do this year.

A few weeks later, however, my dad was hospitalized and I tried to be at the hospital as much as I could, considering I was new at my job and had used all of my leave with my stepmother's house.

My dad and she were still married, but he had moved back to our state for health reasons. She refused many times to leave him.

The day after my dad was released from the hospital, against my family's wishes, he passed. I came over to make him soup and I had found him.

My significant other has largely been supportive, but he's repeatedly been irritated that he has to make dinner weeknights as I work full time and try to address two people's estates.

No wills, plus all the grief.

When he recently made an insensitive comment about having to make dinner part of the week, I asked him to consider that this was insensitive considering all that was going on.

Additionally, I made all dinners for our family while working full time and being the primary caregiver for our son for 12 years.

When I shared this, he immediately fell into a cycle where he shuts down, shuts me out, gets defensive, then reactive, then depressed. It's what always kept me from being honest with him.

Long story short, I kept asking him to talk to me for days. I acknowledged how he must be hurting too.
I thanked him for everything he did around the house.

I knew something was bothering him and asked him to talk to me.

After a day of needing to report my dad's death to creditors and my son at dinner cutting me off when I suggested better ways of communicating about wanting rides, they both snapped at me and shut me out.

I got up, put on a coat, and went for a walk, and I didn't take my phone. An hour later, I got home and sat with my son outside, and we talked and apologized and listened to each other.

When I tried tried the same with my significant other, he was immediately cold and defensive. No matter what I said, he responded that what I said hasn't happened and that I was being mean.

I asked him to then share something with me he felt I hadn't heard instead of just negating what I said. Correct.
Quote, that's so fucked up to put pressure on me, was the response.

I pointed out I was crying and mourning and asked why he was so cold. He asked why I didn't care.
He had to make dinner. As with all conflicts, this is a simplified version.

He is a good person, but we almost got divorced four years ago because of how his undealt with trauma meant that he didn't ever want to talk. Quote, why can't we just act like everything is fine?

And fell into reactive patterns. I'm in a hotel now.
He is not someone to ever go after anyone. So it's not for drama.
I'm an oldest daughter.

I know what taking on a lot with little support means, but I'm completely shocked by this. Yeah, big red flag.

Being told that I'm selfish because when I cook on weekends, it's just pasta in parentheses, roasted butternut squash, homemade sauce, slow simmered. Am I

insane? Am I a 40-year-old woman who has been checking on everyone and working full time? The worst?

Did I, today, finally yell that it would be cool if my significant other applied to more jobs and get a therapist per our agreement when we decided not to divorce and to not drink so much that he passes out on the couch every night.

Because all I want to do is make the people I love feel loved. But now I just feel insane and alone.

I keep trying to reach out to him to support him in his own frustration and grief, but he shuts me out. Now I'm drinking wine in a plastic glass in a motel because of it.

He knows I'm barely functioning. Am I the asshole for saying he should leave when I get back?

That's the only question is, are you the asshole? No.

No. No.
That was a full sentence. No.
No.

There's like a little parenthesis at the bottom too. R.I.P.
My dad, a badass, and my best friend. So that's also the thing that's happening, right? So your husband is never going to be your dad.

He's never going to be your dad. He's never going to be the dude your dad was.

And like expecting that after your dad passed, he'd somehow turn it, magically turn into the dude he's not always been in your entire relationship, that he's not going to also be the dude who was involved in your almost getting divorced four years ago.

Like he's the same dude he's always been.

And it sounds like he's the same dude who's going to stay the same dude, whether you get divorced now or in another 15 years,

right? To me, I am not a proponent of telling people to

leave their marriages, but I am a proponent of telling people, of encouraging people to see the situation for what it actually is

and love yourself.

Yeah, emphasis on love yourself. Like love yourself.
No one else's. Like

they certainly ain't going to do it if you don't do it. No.
And I think like, I think you can look at your kid and granted, you know, he's 12, maybe.

Like, I know you said, like, I took care of him for

12 years. So like, I'm assuming he's around 12.

I mean, look at how he's treating you. And that's probably being modeled by your husband who's not treating you well.

But then when you had this, when you had a scenario where you came back to your son and said, okay, now listen, we got to talk this. That was super constructive.

And you did and came to a better agreement and understanding of one another. That's modeling the kind of energy, the interaction that you want.
Oh, that's so, yeah, that's really healthy.

Do you know what I mean? No, that was great.

If

your significant other, though, is is incapable and unwilling,

this isn't a matter of like, oh, I don't know how. This dude is deciding not to.
It's an avoidant

kind of,

have you read attached?

Oh, like avoidant attachment. Yeah.
Yeah. And then there's like conflict resolution styles.
Yeah. Yeah.
So like this feels to me like I don't want to deal with stuff.

And I also don't want to do stuff. Yeah.
He probably needs some therapy. Yeah.
Maybe some medicine.

You know, there's some good stuff out there that will help you regulate some of that until you can address some of those issues and start to heal. Yeah.

But certainly, motherfucker, you can make a dinner. And if you ain't got a job, you can make a dinner five nights a week.
Yep. I'm just going to say that.
That should be your bare minimum.

Bare minimum. Yeah.
When y'all get home and it's going to be good. And if it was just pasta, motherfucker, did you just eat it? Then get to cooking.
Just pasta. Just pasta, my ass.

Oh, go fuck yourself and don't eat my food ever again. Like I said,

I feel it too.

I'm sorry. Hamburger helper got the directions on the box.
Get in that kitchen and get something made. There's no excuse.
So we could eat. There's no fucking excuse.
What are you doing?

What are you drinking? If you've applied to 15 jobs over the past year. Baby, that's one a month.
That's pretty pathetic when your wife is like seemingly seemingly carrying the weight of the world.

Yeah.

And her parents have died. Yeah.

Bruh. You can't cook me one fucking meal.
Get your ass in that kitchen.

And I have never said that about a person significant other, because that sounds crazy. Out of context.
Get your ass in that kitchen sounds crazy. But if you play this whole episode,

that's nuts. And then it's unfair to put that pressure on me.
What pressure? Out of. What pressure? She better than.
You told me I made just pasta. You go in there and make just pasta then.

Go make it. There's no pressure.
Boil some water, dump the noodles in, strain it, pour some sauce on it. Let's go.
But you want to simmer that for a little bit.

You want to make sure that the sauce gets into the noodle. You know what I mean? You want to make sure you want to heat up that sauce.
We're doing a little meat, some ground chicken, ground turkey.

Yeah. Start putting it in the pan.
Yeah, you want to season all of that. Also, you want to make sure you season the meat.
You want to season the noodles.

You want to make sure you got to put some butter, some salt, and some pepper in those noodles.

leave a little bit of the pasta water in there to thicken it up at home to thicken it up yeah you want to make sure that you got a good consistency for that just pasta or something i don't know but but like what you're not gonna do

is illuminate your resistance to an obligation to your family that you can easily share

easily this is such a joke i always say like you ever feel like people are trolling you this one no, because I'm like, I get these write-ins all the time.

Like, like, I would be like, let me see a picture of him. There's some.
He got to be fine, right? He got to be real. He got to be, he got to be fine.
He could be the hottest person on the planet.

I know, but like, you can't be ugly and also act like that. And we stay together.
Cause like, you got to be.

Sometimes they are. No way.

You got to be fine. It's just love.
She's such a good person. I know, but he also.
But she really loves him. She probably does because he's also probably fine.
He's ugly ass. Ugly ass and heart.

Ugly ass heart. He's just ugly all around.

There's no way. Like he's got so much fucking audacity.
Like that's crazy. I just, I can't.
And I think there's like a good to not talk to me for days because I was like, could you make dinner?

Could you make dinner? Could you make dinner? Because if you, I'm here. Here's what I also say.
I'm gonna, I just hate him. I hate him.
I'm with you. Here's what I'm also saying.

If we're in a relationship and you're upset with me and I feel like you're upset with me because you don't get it

and you don't talk to me for days, but I make meals that you eat. Nope, you're not eating.
We got a motherfucking problem because you're not eating my food.

If you can't talk to me, you can't eat. No.
No, no, no, no, no. I'm the same.
Yeah. Just pasta?

Just pasta? No, and I know some people are going to be like, that's so toxic, but no, what he's doing is toxic. You're stonewalling.
Yes. Like, that is so unhealthy.
Add to stonewall hunger strike.

Because that's also what you're on.

Why? Because your ass ain't eating from this kitchen. Well, and who's paying for everything?

I know, like, their money is, her money is their money right now, but like,

who's paying for everything? She's not holding any money over his head. There's no financial abuse.

She's letting him apply for 15 jobs in one year and still supporting him and then ask just for a little bit in a moment of horrible grief and pain. Could you make dinner?

Let's all just need a little bit. I wonder, maybe she was she like, it'd be great if you fucking made dinner sometimes.
I'm

not even that. But even that, like, you'd be, you would be like, you're right.
I should. I mean, I feel like she's being very balanced in this writing.

Even like, as with all conflicts, this is a simplified version. He is a good person.
Like, she's still like giving him some flowers in this.

I'm going to tell you what made me, what of all of those sentences made me understand that she was a rational, nice person. Might I see your computer real quick? Yeah.

I'm scared. This is the line where I was like, she's not lying.
Okay.

Being told that I'm selfish because when I cook on the weekends, it's just pasta in parentheses. Here's what it was.
Roasted butternut squash homemade sauce slow simmered. Crazy people.

Don't cook like that for a kid and their man. No.
Crazy people don't cook like that. No, that is so, so thoughtful.
Something like, I feel like a lot of us have

like things we'll ask ourselves before committing to somebody. You're gonna got me hot.

Hot and bothered. Oh my God.
And I feel like a lot of people have these tests in their relationships where they're like, can we travel together? Can we decorate together? Yeah. Can we grieve together?

Can we grieve together is one that should be on there.

And like, Someone, I don't know how this like came into my head, maybe a story over the years, but like, if you look at your your partner and you can't go through the worst grief of your life with that person, you are not with the right person.

Like, I hate to catastrophize. I hate thinking about my parents dying, but like, I know without a doubt that the person I have next to me is going to be the dude, going to get me through that.
Yeah.

Going to get me through those hard, horrible days. And you shouldn't settle for anything less because that is one of the worst days of your fucking life.
Losing a parent. Yeah.

And you get this both parents. Divorce.
Her step parent. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Like divorce. Give them the D.

Throw some D's on it. Yeah.
Yeah. Let's go.
Like, done. This is done.
I also feel like I agree with you in the

with the concept of

the life's major hurdles, which is why I think the two years is like you don't have enough time. No, you need some more hurdles.
You need some more.

You need to, you need to see some more, experience some more stuff. You need to see and feel and

endure some things. Yeah.
I think, personally, myself, I'm not talking about other people's life. Your entitle your hot take.
You know what I mean? Yeah. My personal opinion.

I just, this is, this is, that's how I, that's how my partner and I,

like, literally, my father was passing away as we were beginning our friendship. Wow.

And

I was, I received the kind of love I didn't even know was possible. That's what I'm saying.
And it convinced me against

all of my childhood ideas ideas or all of my developmental ideas about what my family would look like.

Loving him changed or challenged all of that. But the way he loved on me informed so much about

what love

is

and what you can experience in a life when your partner genuinely gives a fuck about

you.

Like what that actually feels. And it's it's life-changing.
It is life changing.

It actually like it rewired my brain feeling that, which one, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad, but this was 10 years ago. Like hearing we are in.

Hearing that, it's like you don't even realize like what love is until you have like really good, supportive,

wholehearted just love where someone like really sees you and cares about you and thinks about you before doing things.

And it's just like to have that, you know, as a friendship as you're getting out of that grief, it's like, that's so powerful. Yeah, it was, it was intense.
And I was like, uh-oh.

Do I have?

Hold up. How many, how long was it? This is not what I was.

This does not compute. I'm dealing with this, but what's this? I am confusion.

I am confusion.

Yeah, it was intense.

How long was it from like

going through all that? Like, how long did it take you to realize and start dating? Um,

maybe,

I mean, we were long distance

for three years, yeah, which I think you also have in common. Um, yeah, I mean, he was in North Hollywood, and I was in Koreatown.

That's long distance, girl. Yeah, I know in LA, it is.
That's good. I've done long distance before, it's tough.
Someone had a passport, somebody had a passport, yeah. That's what that's what I mean.

I'm pretty sure you talked about that before. Yeah, like long distance thing is no joke, it's really hard, and it can also feel like you're constantly starting over,

which also

you have to rely on things and you have to rely on a connection and feeding that connection in a totally different way. Yeah.
And so our friendship is super solid.

And I want to say it was probably four, five months really after developing our friendship that I was like, huh, something, something's here.

Hmm.

That was, that was me. It snuck up on me.
Yeah. And he like asked me to be his girlfriend.
At first, I was like, no.

I was like, I'm not ready for a boyfriend right now.

And then it just like kept going on. I'm like, oh, no.
Like, I genuinely had, I really, I love this person. Right.
I was like, oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Snuck up on me.

Yeah, I was like, didn't see that one coming. No, I was the same way.
Meanwhile, had prayed for not to see it coming

for it to be so plain that it was like, where did this come from? And that's exactly how it happened. That's exactly how it happened.
Oh, my gosh, I love. Yeah,

it's been a wild, wild ride.

And so when you experience people who are in partnerships or in relationships that don't exhibit that kind of thing, where one is like, one person is like, I am doing, trying my best and another is really not.

You're just like, ugh, I'm not saying leave, but I'm definitely saying wake the fuck up to the partner that's not doing shit. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it sounds like, I think like here.

Granted, depression can also make a person feel like

they can't do anything. And I don't want to be insensitive to that because I do recognize that while it is not my thing,

it is not an issue that I have. I want to be sensitive to the fact that like if he's dealing with this cycle of, I just can't seem to get out of my own way.

Then I think as a partner, you're trying to find ways to help you see that. And to be honest, making dinner, if that's the one thing you do today, since you didn't apply to any jobs, that's the ass.

That's a win. And that's also a win.
Like if you're dealing with depression, that is a win. Yeah, so get your ass up.
Even if you got to order it. I hate cooking.
Yeah.

If you got to order it and just juzh it up and put it on a plate for us so that it's ready when we get home and we're ready to eat. So that I don't have to come home and then also figure out that.

Grocery stores have so much good stuff, like pre-made or the deli, where all you got to do is heat it up and it's still really affordable.

Like I got the best chicken chicken empanadas the other day and it was like two bucks for this big ass empanada i'm like how you can't you can buy 10 of those you couldn't make that for 20 bucks like go like go

do something i know well and besides get on my nerves i know

i just like i want to just like shake him because it's like dude you have someone who's giving you now four years of more chances like you were at divorce four years ago and if she's saying you were at divorce four years ago she was already checked out then because women emotionally and mentally check out way before they ever but then she but then she wasn't because if it was four years ago and she didn't do it eight-year-old kid you know something's holding her back there he's fine he's fine i know he's got to be fine

this man has to be he has to be so good looking that every time she sees him she's like

so bad because she's got to be like

he's still so hot

and like in this little town there's no one hot it doesn't matter matter how hot he is. If someone's like acting like this, instant ick.
You're dry. There's no sex, regardless.
You're not wrong.

You're not wrong. Once you get the ick, too, you're just like,

she's in a hotel. You can't force yourself to fuck it.

You can't. Like, you got to get over that ick.
Yeah. It's got to be some makeup involved to get me over that.
Right. And if you can't do dinner, we're still not made up.

She's in a hotel room writing this, drinking, was it wine out of a plastic cup? Yeah. Hey, girl,

this, it don't have to be like this. Uh-uh.
When you get home, tell that man to go. Yeah.
I mean, and a part of their deal was he would go and get therapy.

That was a part of their agreement to not get divorced. It's always part of the deal.
He's had four years.

So no matter if he's dealing with depression, like mental health struggles are so real and so valid. But at the end of the day, you're responsible for them.
So is responsibility. Yeah.
Yeah.

And accountability. I know.
And guess what? Our time has come. That's what, that's our time has come to which we say, oh, we go.

Bye.

To the end of the road.

Top comment on this one. Quote, oh, you work full-time while juggling the grief from the loss of your dad.
How could you expect me to cook dinner for us when I'm so busy being an unemployed man-child?

Yeah. I've got beers to drink.
This, haha. You are grieving, handling estates, working full-time, and being met with utter selfishness.

He's unemployed, contributes little, and complains about making dinner while you bury your father? The audacity is staggering. You're not insane.

You're exhausted from carrying the mental load for everyone. And then someone goes, Andy's an alcoholic, which again, like therapy, like start doing something about it.

Listen, if you can't, I can't do it for you. I got enough on my plate.

I know. And also not enough on my plate.
You know, she's not being fed after you. She couldn't make dinner.
Metaphorically.

Literally. Go run for your life.
Fuck. Like, just go, like, you could go and get some pills very crescent rolls, a rotisserie chicken.
I love a rotisserie chicken.

Spread the little roll, put the chicken on it, maybe some tortillas rotisserie chicken. You get some easy tacos.
And if it's so hard for you to do it by yourself, it sounds like you have a son.

He's 12. Who can help? He can help.
Like, let's make it a fun dad-son activity. Yeah, let's take care of mom for a while, shall we? Yeah.

Someone goes, reread this and pretend it was someone you cared about asking. You know it's time to leave him.
If not for you, for your son.

he needs to know that his dad is not what a good partner looks like. OP responds.
They see it. They go, damn.
Damn. Damn.
That's it. If that, if that don't hit home for you.

And then they respond to themselves and they go, and by that, I mean true things being said.

And then someone else responds to OP and goes, a good thing to hold on to is your son was receptive to speaking and learning.

Hold on to that because there's still time to ensure he doesn't repeat his father's mistakes. I understand about aging parents and losing them.
It sucks.

It's completely heartbreaking and at times infuriating when the parent to child rolls reverse. Show yourself grace.
You're mourning to parents in quick succession. You deserve better.

And OP goes, I may have told him, my husband, that as I walked out of the door, quote, at least your son is the kind of person who will go after someone he loves.

Basically being like, I'm going to the hotel room and you're not following me you're not making it better he's not how can he follow you he drunk he's in he's at home he's in the kitchen waiting on somebody to feed him my god how can he follow you and also to be honest you don't want him to how can but but i'm i'm gonna this may be uh don't at me okay but how can you now start to require him to do something he's never shown you he was gonna do in the first place

yeah

why would you assume that all of a sudden now he's gonna do something he has never done no and like she even said like he's not the type to follow someone like he's not the type to chase so yeah no i think like someone kind of responded to that and was like that was a little passive aggressive it was that was aggressive aggressive i mean i think maybe it's like and like don't and also don't use don't use the kid as no the the weapon or the the your bargaining chip no that's real yeah no that's

like let's let's call a spade a spade baby you mad at him because he ain't shit.

No. Or at least

ain't shit right now. No.
Ain't trying to be shit. You should make him a shit cake and write, I want a divorce on it.
And say, here, I made you something. I made you something.

Because you couldn't cook me dinner. Taste it.
That's real, you know. Taste it.
Taste it. I made this for you.
Taste it.

We have no updates on this one. Damn.
No updates. So we're going to have to keep our eyes peeled.
It's 28 days old. Seems to be coming from a very real account.
The account is three years old.

So usually like people will question like, oh, it's fake. It's fake.
If it's a new account, if it's a throwaway. Right.
But this person is posting this on a three-year-old account. And

I mean, seems, seems legit. Shit.

So

there's hope for the kid. There's hope for her, too.
Get out of there and go. Don't let your ex-husband stop you from meeting the love of your life.
Exactly. Starting with you.
Get out there.

Starting with you. Like, love yourself enough.
Yeah. Because also, I think that

some of this, like, right, is about getting to a place where we love us enough that we can say, okay, I see the scenario for what this is.

And I respect you enough to know this is not you at your best.

And so I'm not going to take so personally you not being able to be the partner that I know know you to be, or I believe you to be, or wished you were.

But here's an opportunity for us to set some guideline for ourselves, some

runway for ourselves

and this relationship. Because either we're going to be able to come together and really get back to or get to finally a real partnership, or we're going to have to move this thing on.
Respectfully.

I'm going to put a poll. How many of you out there think therapy and stay together?

or are you in my boat with me and we're just jumping to divorce i want to put a poll on this one put a poll and and also i'm gonna put i'm gonna ask for another for an addition to the poll okay and how many people want to see a picture of him option c show me a picture show me a picture i would actually really like to see a picture of him today not 10 years ago 20 years ago today

drunk on the couch

because that would be enough baby no no, no, no. I'm like, I want to see it, but I fear, I fear I would have to stage an intervention then and like literally show up at this lady's house.

Do you ever feel that way? All the time. I'm like, some of these stories I've literally been like, hey, if you need help to move, like, let me know.
Drop a pin. I'll roll up with a U-Haul.

Let's go. Cause I get it.
I know how to drive big rigs. I can drive the U-Haul.
I know that's right.

I know that's right. I know a lot about me.

Get you a friend. Get you a friend

because

she said I will pull up. I will.
Beep, beep.

Beep, beep. Beep, motherfucking beep.
Beep, beep, bitch. That's going to be my new thing.
Beep, beep.

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I'm gonna give you a choice, okay? Okay, by the title, you're gonna give me the title.

Okay, option number one: okay, me with my boyfriend of two years. He destroyed the painting I made for him because it was a cheap gift.
Or option two. That one already pisses me off.

I just found out my mom has been sending my girlfriend cruel messages for who knows how long. I don't know how to handle this.

Okay.

Can I ask for one piece of

information from each?

Do you just want both? Kind of. Okay.
Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Okay.

With the painting, is it like one of those abstract, do we have a photo of the painting before it was destroyed?

Because like you know sometimes painters are silly and they do things like they'll paint a

Something white and then put a red dot on it and be like happy happy birthday. I did this for you

No picture from what I'm seeing like was this a portrait? Was it a landscape? Was it I'm sure we would find out some more details

in the story. Okay, and then with the mom,

does the girlfriend deserve it?

Like,

you know? I know. These are very valid questions.
Let's do them both. Okay, so starting with the gifts.
Okay. Me, 24 female, with my boyfriend, 27 male of two years.

He destroyed the painting I made for him because it was a cheap gift. My boyfriend John is extremely difficult to buy presents for.

He came from an affluent family and has a great job and buys everything he wants whenever he wants it. I am lower income.

I lost my job a few months ago and had to take on another one, which pays less. And I'm struggling to pay my part of the rent and pay off my student loans.

It is difficult for him to understand this most of the time. I love to paint.
My boyfriend has said my paintings are very good and that he likes them a lot.

Since my income is so low, I decided to paint my boyfriend a painting for his birthday, Saturday. I researched this for months beforehand.

I decided to paint a scene from his favorite game, Bioshock, with him as a big daddy character.

I know it sounds cheesy, but I honestly thought he would like it because he always said I was talented and he loves this game. I poured a ton of work into it.

A week before his birthday, he had been hinting heavily at wanting a new iPhone. When I presented him with a painting, he asked me if this was his present and if I got him something else.

I told him this was his present and that I had worked on it for months special for him.

He got upset and told me a bunch of awful things, saying that it's a quote cheap and lazy gift and that I was cheap in general.

I was trying to diffuse the situation and I told him that I was sorry he didn't like it, but I wasn't able to get him the iPhone he wanted.

He took the painting and he didn't tear it, but he sort of bent and crinkled it, completely ruining the paint.

He told me that I obviously didn't care about what he wanted and that I was bad at budgeting and all of this other ranting.

It came out that he resented paying for groceries and utilities, even though he had agreed to this before. I told him that if he wanted to discuss, that we could, but that this wasn't a good reaction.

He told me that I was just after him for his money and that he didn't want a shitty painting when he could apparently be in a committed relationship with another girl at his workplace who makes way more money.

Then Then he told me, quote, but I love you, as though it was an excuse for what he said.

Then he said that this girl had brought him a red velvet cake for his birthday, which is his favorite cake, which I didn't care about.

That was the most gangster line I've ever heard, which I didn't care about.

I told him that I baked him a chocolate cake earlier in the week with cream cheese frosting, and that is basically red velvet cake.

He switched and said that she had gotten it from his favorite bakery, and some random girl knows which bakery he likes over me. I just went to bed.
This morning, he's gone, and so is the painting.

He sent me a text saying he went out to an Easter birthday brunch with his parents and he'll be back soon. I'm not sure if I want to end the relationship, which has a ton of commitment involved.

He has never acted like this before about money, and I don't know what's up because he's still not telling me.

I think think he might be interested in this other girl, or at least jealous of how much money she makes compared to me. How am I even supposed to approach this?

I am already feeling very hurt about the painting, and I'm not sure that's a good place to start another argument.

I definitely need to see the painting. I really how many hours? How many hours are we talking? Like, she said she's working on it for months, but like months.

Yeah, but like, how many hours have we actually been sitting? It's like five minutes a day, yeah. Like, like, what, like, what does this painting look like? Because

this man is angry, okay?

This painting, he must does she not get does he not look good in the the she painted him as a daddy is he is he like more of a is he more of like an otter or a bro like i don't like i don't know like i did he look fat in the painting did i you know like there's there's got to be like bioshock nobody looks cute in bioshock that i know of i'm literally so i i had no idea what bioshock was Is this what you were envisioning?

Yeah, that's what I was envisioning. And I don't know that that's exactly what I would want for my birthday gift.

I would not want this for my birthday gift at all. But I can also tell you that like he also may be lying about what he thinks about her art.
Yeah. And wanting to just be encouraging to her.

Like, yo, baby, your hobby is really nice. I'm glad that you have an outlet of creativity.
That's what I'm gathering. But like, don't, I don't want this as gifts for me.
No, that's what I'm gathering.

I'm gathering someone like just being like, yeah, I love that you have your passion and super

supportive, but like, doesn't mean I want that for my birthday. But in the same breath, like your girlfriend is going through a really tough time financially.
Yeah.

She's not going to buy you a new iPhone. Do you know?

It's unreal how expensive the new iPhones are getting. They are expensive.
Like, I remember when the iPhone was like, what, 400, 500 bucks? Yeah.

But I mean, I was going to say, but it can't be $29.99 a month on Clarina.

Just give up. Just give up.

Put it on layaway. I know.
Put on layaway. But I mean, if it's that serious.
I know. But also, I think that.
There's a real disconnect happening here between this dude and reality.

If she's saying, I'm struggling to like contribute to rent and groceries, expecting her to have saved money to buy you a phone is kind of lunacy, right?

And clearly, there's something going on with this girl at work, and he wants you to know. And now seems like the opportune time.
I know. I mean, because he didn't say nothing when she bought the cake.

He waited till now to bring the cake up. Yeah.
Well, and like

her comments here. I think he might be interested in this other girl, or at least jealous of how much money she makes compared to me.

I'm not sure if I want to end the relationship, which has a ton of commitment involved. Is the commitment that you live with him? Is that the commitment? Yeah.
And I think so.

Because that is commitment. I think so, but based on the comments, like, I think it's more so like, OP says here, like, haha, he's definitely not the best guy.

He says a lot of things in anger, but I am definitely considering breaking up with him because of my financial situation and the lease. This would be very difficult, however.

So I'm wondering if there's any way this could be worked out. So it's almost as if she's like biding time.

She's biding time or like, I don't really want to break up because like i do have this great situation with like rent and he pays for groceries and utilities and whatever like i want to eat and rightfully so things are expensive like that sucks if you're down on your luck and struggling but also maybe he feels that does which he kind of made that comment if he does he feel does this dude feel like you're actually just kicking it because so i'll take care of you in this time of your need like i mean he kind of implied she's a gold digger I mean, is she?

I don't know. I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't know no gold diggers that can paint.

I don't know.

There's other skills.

She's still out there grinding.

It's not like she's like, I quit my job to be an artist and her art is just like not sustaining her even.

What I mean by that is that it don't necessarily to me sound like this is she doesn't give off the kind of from this post gold digger energy.

But if his interpretation of her situation is it feels like you are taking advantage of me, that is the conversation.

This birthday birthday gift is just another symptom of that. Because what it also, like, if you read a little deeper, it also feels like he's like,

you got iPhone money somewhere. You're just not spending it on me or on these groceries.
I know. It's like, it's almost like he maybe is just kind of unaware of her financial situation, truly.

Because in his head, he's like, you're not really paying as much as you should for rent. I'm paying groceries.
I'm paying utility.

He didn't even give me the red velvet cake from my favorite bakery. Which, like, granted, men are

simple,

in a lot of ways, silly, silly human beings. But based on what on this share, doesn't it also sound like there's some information about her financial situation that we don't know? Because like,

because like, if you are broke and we live together, I know how broke you are. I know, like, you think there'd be more transparency between them.

Like, and if I know you can't pay rent, I'm not asking you to buy me an iPhone. And so, like, if you're just not paying rent, though, because you're like, you got it.

And I'm like, well,

I don't want to have it. You are, and you are making some money.
You're getting some money from something. Yeah, you can contribute still.
You can contribute.

If that's not the conversation, then it comes to the head. I know.

But I'll be honest with you, the most fascinating part of all of this is the girl at work.

With the red velvet case. He's probably, he wants her.
Definitely wants her. Have you ever bought, you ever gone to a specific bakery for a guy you're not fucking? Nope.
For his birthday?

To buy the cake that he loves? Nope. For a dude that you just work with? No, those bougie bakeries, those are expensive cakes.
Probably.

$40, $50 cake. Yeah, like we got to.

Red velvet. Red velvet is a bougie ass cake.
And chocolate is not the same as red velvet. I'm going to tell you right now, bro.
It is similar. It is not the same.
It's not the same.

We do have a little bit more context about him.

OP shares a muffin incident in the comments. He thought I was making blueberry muffins and threw one across the room when he realized they were cranberry.
He's a little brat.

He's a brat. But here's what I'll tell you.
She knows that. And she's okay with him being a brat.

She's just got to figure out where she's going to live. And she's like.
Do I jeopardize my housing right now? Go move in with your girlfriends. Have fun.
Live with your friends and date.

Doesn't have a picture of the painting. Was hoping to get a scan of it before it was framed.
Didn't do that. Here's what.
Okay, so here's what I'm going to also tell you.

You work on something for months and you don't take one picture of it. Progress.
You know, start, finish. Him standing next to it

when she unveils it. Nah.

I don't, let me tell you something. That painting wasn't no good.

I mean,

I didn't say it. If you're out there listening, I'm sure it was beautiful.
I want to see. I'm not so sure.
And I want to see. We do.
I want to see something.

If you are listening, if you painted this painting and you are listening to this, I am Scott Evans on social media. Please DM me a photo of this painting.
And

I will take it back. But it sounds like.
You think it's ugly? I think

it wasn't flattering and it wasn't good. Well,

we

don't know.

I would like to know. But I will say this is a 10-year-old Reddit account.
So again, it's giving real account, real story. Oh, yeah.

I'm definitely not getting falsity, falsehood. No, we do find out more info that I moved in with him because I love him.
I signed a lease because I loved him. I pay half the rent every single month.

It was him who opted to start paying the utilities. I pay all of my student loans, not him.

I am worried because I will lose money on the lease that I do not have and I cannot afford to lose money right now. Right.

Let him break the lease. Straight up.
Let him pay his way out. I'm with that.

OP does also share that

he

isn't like the most attractive.

All the more reason, I don't know, to maybe not stick around with someone who breaks your painting.

Even if he didn't like the gift, his reaction is diabolical. Crazy.
You didn't give me an iPhone. Snaps the painting.

And also, the muffin. The muffin.
Bro, we got some issues. We got some anger issues.
We got to resolve. We got to.
It's time to grow up. Put it back on the counter.

I know you were looking forward to blueberry, but cranberry is still pretty good. And if you don't want it, put it back on the counter to throw it.

Also, she seems like the kind of lady who, you know, if you wanted a blueberry muffin, go get the blueberries. I'll make the muffin.
I'll make you a blueberry muffin if that's what you wanted. Yeah.

But the thing is, I told you yesterday I was going to make cranberry muffins. You forgot and thought it was a blueberry or weren't weren't listening to me.
Yeah.

We get an update. We got an update.
We got an update. Oh, hell yeah.
Update. I have an update.

When John didn't return after a couple of hours, I read your comments, got a little pissy, and invited over a couple of girlfriends for drinks and complaining. I did a lot of complaining.

And they basically said what you guys said. John did not return home after his Easter brunch, so I ate a tray of lemon bars.

Oh no, yum.

When I got home from work today, he had the painting and he had put it in a cheap dollar store frame. It was wrinkled, flaked, and ruined beyond repair.

He told me that he was sorry that he had gotten so upset and that he was just expecting a different gift.

I asked him where he was, and he said he stayed with his parents for the night and borrowed work clothes from his dad. Was he wearing his daddy's clothes? OP goes, yeah,

right.

I directly asked him why he was so upset when I gave him a painting that I worked so hard on.

He said that he pays for everything and gets rightfully upset when I don't use all of my extra cash to be thoughtful. I pay for half the rent on this expensive apartment, all of my student loans.

I have no extra cash.

He buys the most expensive part of the groceries, like a pound of pine nuts a week, an expensive gelato always in the freezer, and cranks up the AC and heat and leave the lights on.

We would have countless arguments since I would be paying half of a huge bill that I contributed 10% to.

He started paying for utilities and groceries at his insistence after it started to take a toll on our relationship.

I told him that if he was so upset, we could split the utilities evenly again, but I was mad that he took out his temper on me and destroyed all of my hard work.

He started saying things like, quote, you never loved me. You just knew I was a prized pig, etc.

Our degrees are the same. This is how we met.
But his dad hired him right out of school and I was left to find work for myself.

I don't resent him for this, but I wasn't even aware of this economic status while we were initially dating. And by the time I learned, I was already invested into the relationship.

Trust me when I say he's never been this aggressive before in our entire relationship.

So I knew something was up. Yeah.
I was super pissed and I outright asked him if he was fucking red velvet. That's like literally the words.

As you were reading them, I was like, is he fucking red velvet? His work friend.

He said that a while ago they went out for drinks after work with a whole group and ended up kissing afterwards. Of course.
I asked him if that was all that happened. Then what? And he said yes.
Lies.

I kept asking him what his problem is, why he has to compare me to other girls, why he tore up the painting, why he is aggressive now when he hasn't been before.

I know I was probably being annoying, but I was so mad. He kept repeating the money thing over and over.
Finally. But you don't make any money? That's what he kept saying? I guess.

I pay for everything. You're broke.
So I can do whatever I want. You're broke.

Oh, my God. Could you imagine being in a disagreement with your significant other? And they're just like, you're, but you're a brokey.
You're broke. You're like, but you're broke all the time.

You're just a gold-digging hoe. Hoe.
And like, you're just using me for my money. I'm a prized pig.
I am a prized pig. Oink.
Oink.

Bitch.

Oink. Beep, beep.

God.

What?

What?

Finally, he broke and told me that it wasn't just a kiss. He said that he and Red Velvet had started going on little dates during work hours.
Yeah.

They did not have sex, but they are basically in a relationship. He said he was falling for her and felt as though she was better for him and wanted me to break up with him.
Clear.

Part of the painting thing was his resentment towards me financially, and part was him wanting to hurt me enough that I'd break up with him. Yep.

I guess that the fight about the painting was when it got real for him and he wanted to fix it and break it off with red velvet.

He and I had signed a one-year lease and we still have three months left. But I told him to get out of the apartment and that we're breaking up.
And he did leave with some clothes.

I'm not sure if he's coming back. Maybe he's staying with red velvet.
I don't care. Not anymore.

This is the ending that we all wanted. Yeah.
Oh,

there's more.

Edit to add. I do not have a picture of the painting, but do have one of my pencil sketches uploaded, and I will send the link to people who request it.

Request the fucking link. I'm sending her a message.
Send her a message.

I'm starting chat now.

Oh, it better be the best fucking sketch I've ever seen. You can't be mean if she sends it.
What?

I won't be mean. I mean, I'm not going to break the sketch.
That's true. You know what I'm saying?

Okay, I sent her a chat. We'll see if we get anything back by the time this episode comes out.
Oh, please. I'll send it to you.
Yes. And

if I'm not here, if we can't,

I will film something of the genuine first reaction and send it to you. I know.

Last comment we have from OP is:

he is quite chubby. Haha, good riddance.
He'll have himself a nice slice of red velvet cake. Wait, we have a picture of him? No, no picture of him.
How do they know he's chubby? Also,

I'm just realizing

this post is 11 years old. I don't know if we're gonna get that.
You're not gonna get a picture. I don't know if we're gonna get that.

So the reason it's recircling is because one of our friends, direct Caterpillar77, just posted this on the best of Redditor updates 18 days ago. Okay, here's what I'll say.
Okay.

If someone else has ever seen

that, please send it to us. We must see the sketch.
Okay.

I feel like someone out there has definitely seen this.

I think someone could send it to us. I have faith.
I'm also going to say that if he destroyed it and then put it in a frame, that's just new art. And don't call it happy birthday.

Call it happy breakup.

There you go.

Somebody heartbroken will buy that. Somebody rich will be like, I want that heartache.
I want to buy that. Yeah, I want to.
I want to collect that.

Art basil, basil, whatever that is.

Fancy thing it's called. I mean, people literally buy trash.
Yeah, bananas stuck to a wall.

It's crazy.

It's so much fun, though. It's so much fun.
I've never been. Oh, God.
It's just passed. It's It's so much fun.

It's a good time. I've never been to Miami.
What? No.

Do you always just go back to Minnesota? Yeah, either there, France.

Yeah, you see what I did there? That was the fucking. Yeah, you're trying to troll me with Minnesota? No, that was the fucking baddest.
That was the bad. That was the fucking

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No, that was even better.

That's even better.

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Okay, this one last one before I release you. You know, holding you hostage.
No, it's okay. It's been quite nice.
Listen, I'm cozy. It's quite nice having you here.
Yeah.

Those last couple did make me a little hot, though.

I was all underneath the blanket and everything. Not no more.

This last one coming from R/Relationship Advice, 17 days old, titled, I just found out my mom has been sending my girlfriend cruel messages for who knows how long. I don't know how to handle this.

Male, 36, girlfriend, female, 32.

Generally, not much rattles me.

My friends call me a stoic, emotionally constipated idiot, and they're not wrong, which which is why we're all still a little stunned that the love of my life is basically my opposite.

I've been with my girlfriend for eight years, known her for 10. She's quiet, gentle, brilliant, an actual whole ass professor, and genuinely one of the kindest people I've ever met.

She's silly, shy, goofy in the best ways, and loves to poke fun. I love all of it.
I love her more than I've ever loved anyone ever in this lifetime.

But last night, something happened that I can't let go of my phone was charging so i was scrolling instagram reels on hers like i usually do one of her friends dm'd her normally i'd send back some dumb reaction photo so they know it's me just a thing in our circle right but it wasn't a joke it was screenshots my girlfriend had sent her friend and the friend was trying to comfort her uh-oh multiple red flags going on here but okay i hesitated and then opened the screenshots to read better and i'm glad I did.

I didn't even regret it anymore because what I saw were multiple messages from my mother, cruel ones. And the timestamps weren't all from the same day.

So I don't know how long this has been happening. A week? Longer? No idea.
Some of the messages my mom sent. Oh, they include the messages.

Quote, maybe he hasn't proposed because you haven't given him a child. Men don't marry placeholders.
That was the most recent one. This one makes me see red.
I can't even imagine how my baby felt.

Next one, quote, if you stopped dressing like a teenage boy and put on some makeup, maybe he would see you as a wife instead of one of his little friends. Quote, you're keeping him from his family.

He used to visit. For clarity, I'm the one who pulled back because of her behavior towards one of my sisters.
That's a whole other issue. So nothing to do with my girlfriend.

Quote, you think you're special? You're lucky he even brought you home. Girls like you don't get commitment from men like him.

What the hell is this? Next one, quote, you're not good enough for the life he deserves. Reading them made my stomach drop.
They were hateful and completely false.

There's even more, but these were the ones seared into my brain. And my girlfriend didn't even tell me about any of them.

She's just been carrying this alone, smiling, laughing with me, all while this garbage was sitting in the back of her mind.

My girlfriend avoids conflict. She hates upsetting anyone.
I get it. It's easier to talk to a friend first, and my mom can be dot, dot, dot, dot, intense.

She probably didn't want to put me in a position where it looked like choosing sides, but I've chosen, and it's not her I'm angry with. I'm furious at my mother.
I'm exhausted by this.

She knows how much my girlfriend means to me. She hears me talk about her constantly.
I really thought she might actually be happy happy for me.

At the same time, I don't want to make this harder on my girlfriend or make her feel exposed. So here's where I need advice.

I was, okay, because I was like, it sounds, bruh, it sounds like we already, we are on the, why are you on Reddit and not on the phone with your mama? We're like this.

Do I tell my girlfriend gently that I saw the messages, that I'm on her side, and that she doesn't need to shield me from my own mother?

Or do I handle my mother privately and not bring it up unless my girlfriend does? I just want her to feel safe and supported. And it makes me feel sick that she's been dealing with this alone.

I mean, actually sick. I'm just watching her make breakfast and I just, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
What's the best approach that prioritizes her well-being first?

Well, I love him. What do you right? First of all,

if it doesn't work out with them, call me.

Well, wait, actually, never mind, because your mom is sounding like she's not. No, you're not.
Your mom is sounding like, but I'm, but I'm not his girlfriend. So try me.

Send me one of them text messages. I can't wait.
You know what I mean? Could you imagine?

Could you imagine if you would stop dressing like a little boy and put some, I can also hear, I can hear the voice. Stop dressing like a little boy and put some makeup.

He wouldn't look at you like one of his little friends.

I have family that talks like that. So I'm going to say it.
We'd be fighting.

They would never talk to a significant other like that. But like, this feels very familiar to me, if you know what I'm saying.
you're not

this one though you're not good enough for the life he deserves i'm gonna tell you i've i've heard that

i have i have heard that second statement said i have heard that you clock them immediately no no no no it wasn't said to me about someone that i was dating but i have heard a family member say this

That is crazy. It is.

You might think that shit in your head, but you never say it out loud. Sometimes you got to know.
And in this particular case,

this particular case, I wouldn't even say that they were wrong.

I was going to say, I'm just going to say that. Totally kidding.
Mostly.

Mostly.

But it is, it is,

if, if the idea is to be, what do you think? Honestly, I would want to know. If you were the girlfriend.
Yeah, I'd like, it feels so, so, so fucking good if my boyfriend came to me and was like, hey,

you know, I was on reels, like, like I usually do, and message popped up. And I saw what my mom's been saying to you.
And, like, that is beyond fucked up.

I wish you would have told me. I get why you didn't.
You didn't want to choose or make me choose or whatever, but it's not okay. And just so you know, like, I'm going to address it.

I have already addressed it. Oh, so that's what you think.
You want him to go to mom first. Hey, source.

What's up? Yeah.

With screenshots. What? Is that how you you feel? I guess what do you do if mom's like, oh, she told you? We're not there yet.
This is how you feel? To mom?

This is how you feel, Ma? This is like,

this is the woman that this is who you are. I'm just looking out for you.
I just want what's best for you. You know, I love you.
This isn't indicative of love. This is control.

I'm just trying my best. Yeah, I wish you were.
And what it feels like you're trying your best at is to make this woman feel like trash.

Because if you cared about me and you see how happy I am with her, if you felt this way, you'd come to me and I'd be able to tell you that the things that you're concerned about aren't my concern.

Or we'd be able to have that conversation that you wouldn't be berating this woman

through text. Berating.

And

don't you have other stuff to do, Ma? Go start your needle point or something. You got water aerobics at three.

You got Miss Jan's birthday party at the castle in Italy. She's turning 75 on Tuesday.

Go bake some sourdough. Come on.
Yeah, like what are we doing? And I get that you love me. Yeah.
And I love how intensely you love me, but this is too far.

This is too much. This is too much.
It's too much. It's too far.
And I need you to apologize.

Oh, yeah. I need you to apologize to her.
That's the bare minimum. And for me, I need you to apologize to her.
Point forward, we're going low, low, low, low contact, if not no contact.

Like, I just don't know how you could trust her going forward. And like, I think opening the door between your girlfriend and two is going to help.

Like, hey, no, like, you got to tell me if my mom's saying this crazy shit. It is crazy.
Like, this is not okay. Like, unless his mom is like, I was hacked.

Like,

I think that this is a

They hacked my phone. I didn't even know.
Honestly, old people do get hacked quite a bit. Quite a bit.
But usually it's like plot twist. Hey,

send me some money. Like, go Babby's gift cards.
Yeah, go buy the gift cards. My grandpa

also literally got hit so hard from that. He almost did.

He told me he was at the grocery store buying, getting ready to buy the cards because he said he felt like he knew it was a scam, but he wanted to see how it was going to end. Yeah.
Oh my God.

And that there was a woman in the

checkout lane behind him.

Seeing the difficulty he was having with trying to pay for the card and the person on the, he was on the phone with the person scamming him and trying to buy the card at the same time.

And he was, the guy was like, no, no, just buy the card. Just okay, just do this, do this.
And he was like, do what? Do what? And he was kind of like fucking with the scammer.

The lady behind him said, sir, are you, are you buying these cards for yourself? And he was like, oh, no, I'm buying buying them for the person that's on the phone. Oh, what a hero.

I'm buying them for the person that's on the phone so they can erase my, my, the viruses on my computer. And she goes, sir, hang up the phone now.
You're being scammed.

And before my granddad could be like, is that right? The guy on the phone hung up. Isn't that crazy? What a little hero.

See, I think like all the people selling gift cards these days should like ask people, especially seniors. Well, now there's a limit.
You can only buy like two or three gift cards at a time

at grocery stores and stuff. I think my, I forget how much my grandpa lost, but I'm pretty sure it was like at least

five digits. Damn, they got him.
Yeah, yeah. And he literally got scammed shortly after again, too.
And I'm like, someone just like take his bank card away.

Like, yeah, you got to get in one of them play phones where it only calls two numbers.

Yeah.

It's like a walkie-talkie. I know.

I know. Damn.

Well, I just, I feel like in this case, 100% we're going to ma

independent of girlfriend. Yeah.
And we're also going to girlfriend and we're reiterating that we are in this together. Yeah.

How much, whatever it is you're dealing with, whatever it is you are navigating, we're navigating it together together.

Especially with my mama.

It's my mama.

It's my mama. And I loved your time boy, you know what I'm saying? Fresh face.
I mean, you see me, I've been wearing rugby polos polos non-stop.

I almost wore one today, and I'm like, that would be like three episodes in a row in a rugby polo, and I can't do that.

But I literally, like, I feel like when people meet me in the wild, like, they have no idea what my sexuality is. I dress very rugged.

You don't know. And I and I use the word partner a lot.

I dress very rugged. I dress rugged.

I wear like a barber barn jacket with like Hunter Wellies.

Like, who am I? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. And neither do you.
I love a mixed wardrobe. I'm into it, but that doesn't mean that no one will love you or commit to you.
No, no.

You know what I mean? Like, you don't get to say that to me because I'm comfy. No, I dress like that and I got rings.
We're fine. We're good.
Thank you.

Where do you fucking want to wear it? Where would you want to wear it? People are so weird about clothes. Why are clothes so gendered?

Just wear the fucking fabric you want to wear in the cut you want to wear it in. I'm going to also just like, but parents be caring

and parents be

parents are like, they have an idea of what the life they want for their kids. And they have been maybe

preparing their kid for that life.

right entitling themselves to experience that life also and when people come into their kids lives that don't fit that it's hard to adjust So like, ma gets some grace, but like, hey, it's time to change behavior.

Oh, yeah. Hardcore.
Yeah, we're doing a full 180 on your behavior or you're gone. You gotta, well, you can, she's mama.
She can't be gone. Oh, she's gonna be gone from my life.
I know.

You might as well be dead because you're dead to me. I know.

You are fiery today.

With a toss toss. Okay.

Top comment. As an older guy who's cut out his mom, you need to do the same.

First, you need to sit down and tell your girlfriend, let her know it was an accident that you saw it, but you are glad you did. Let her know you're on her side.

Tell her you plan on putting some space between you and your mom. Also, block your mom on her phone so she no longer has to put up with your mom's toxicity.

Second, you need to lay into your mom for her shit behavior. Put some boundaries on how you and your girlfriend will be as far as contact goes from this point forward.

This might not be a popular opinion, but your first priority is to your girlfriend. Family doesn't mean shit when they treat your partner like shit.

Family, it's not that family doesn't mean shit, but again, we got to look at what we are in reality. We're dealing with reality, not the dream or the fantasy, not the potential.

We're dealing with where we are. And like, my, not okay.

Not okay. And as a result, like, we got to work at getting back to a place of hanging out

and being around because now it's just really uncomfortable. We do get an update.
I just found it accidentally. I thought it was came over, but I do.
We have more. Why do you keep doing this to me?

I don't know. But luckily, it's the end.
Like, what a good note to end on. Is it a good note? Maybe.
I haven't read it because I just found it. What if it's not a good note? I don't know.

I see a lot of heartbreak emojis, so

she left him. I talked to my girlfriend the same night I made the original post.
We're working through everything together right now, and things are headed in a, all caps, good direction. Oh, great.

I'm not ready to write the full update yet since there's a lot to sort out privately before I come back with all of the details, but I did want to say something to the people who reached out when I was clearly not in the best headspace.

For transparency, I told my girlfriend exactly what happened, that I panicked, had what I'm pretty sure was some kind of anxiety attack, and ended up here on big, beautiful Reddit asking a question that, in hindsight, had a pretty obvious answer.

Correct. Not my finest hour, considering I'm usually, you know, the calm one between us.
I guess I was bound to pop at some point. Was this popping? Reddit was popping? I guess.

That was like very tame and controlled to me. Because I'm going to say this right now.
Brother, if this is you popping, if this does not work out with this girl, please call me.

Engage. Couple to Threppo streaming on Peacock, okay?

Oh, there you go.

Opie goes on to say, I even ugly cried on the side of the road. Dot, dot, dot.
Jesus Christ.

I love him.

Like so emotionally in tune and like self-aware. I love him.
Oh.

I also showed her. So she's like, his mom did a good job.

Fuck, you're right.

His mom did a good job. She's like, my son is a fucking prize.
Then why is she, she's so fucked in the head? Because she's like, she's like, hey, step your weight up.

Put on some fucking clean clothes. Don't you come here defending mom now.
I'm just saying. Now shit got real.

He's crying on the side of the road. I know what just a little bit.
Pulling a pulls over. He pulled over.

To be safe?

So he could cry? It's hard to cry and not hurt anybody. It gets blurry.

I've driven through it. He's safe.
He's such a little awesome. He is a good dude.
She did a great job. And she is

trying to protect. Or he went to therapy and unpacked a lot of trauma and developed into this really healthy, well-balanced adult on his own.
Yeah, maybe, but I'm thinking probably

for the sake of this conversation, I'm thinking probably mama did a pretty good job and mama has a hard time releasing now.

We got to let go. There might be something here.
Okay. Okay.

So he goes on to say, I also showed my girlfriend this account and she like looked at me, then the comments and upvotes and hit me with, quote, bet you wish your actual account got this much engagement, huh?

Destroyed me in seconds, but so very accurate. Broken heart, broken heart, broken heart.
Oh, that's the broken hearts. Okay, okay.
A lot has happened since, and some of it was very eye-opening.

Turns out my mom has a pattern of this behavior.

After my girlfriend and I talked, I reached out to my siblings, and my younger brother opened up and told me that she did the same thing to his now wife years ago. He just didn't tell anyone.

They both moved far away and kept their distance because of it. That was a hard thing to hear, but it explains so much.
Also, my girlfriend is super close with my siblings, so she knows she knows.

She knows she knows. Yeah.
Anyways, to sum it up real quick, my girlfriend and I are solid. We're talking.
We're being honest, and we're on the same team. I'm taking care of the rest.

I just wanted people to know things are okay and we're moving forward. And I appreciate a lot of you.
I'm too anxious to open up any of the comments on the original post.

Some of y'all are brutal, but real. My girlfriend has been peeking for me, though.
Happy holidays, everyone. Stay safe.

I'm in love with him. That is an excellent communicator.
This is what, like, quality storytelling. This is what women want.
Men want. Everyone wants.
This is what everyone wants. Everybody wants that.

Everybody wants that. Just

whoever wants a man wants that.

This is good. That's real good.
This is really good. And if he's cute, she.

No, he sounds cute just by this. He does.
Someone that shows up for you, has your back, 10 out of 10 every time.

I see like soft brown curly hair. Ooh.
You know? Little. Honestly, you know who I'm envisioning? Who? David

Cornsweat?

The new Superman? New Superman. I could see that.

I was thinking more like Reggae Jean-Page. Ooh, ooh.

Also.

I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah. I don't know.
You know who's really doing it? And I just heard a rumor, maybe a future bond.

Callum Turner.

I have heard Callum Turner. I have heard five.
Hubby, fiancé. Fiancé, I think.
I don't know if she's

secretly married. I'm not upset about that.

That's a good sitch. She's cutie.
I like, I like, that's weird. I like them together.
I like the two-finger thing was kind of

the two-finger thing wasn't weird because you weren't doing a different mode. It was right.
It wasn't like a donut hole. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. This was, but this also, considering it's also this is also strange,

yeah, because that's giving like tip to tip, right? Yeah, little

and now I can't stop doing it. I know, you just like ever at home, it's gonna be like

bumping their fingers together. It feels good, feels good, it feels good.
So, I

wait, you heard, I also heard that maybe um, Dampson Idris

New Bond, who damps and Idris

people, people's poll, people's poll.

Who is this? Brad Pitt. He was the other driver in F1.

I never saw it.

He's, yeah, he could do it too. Right?

And has the accent. I know.

He's British. They have famously said, or

the assumption is that there will never be a black bond. But we did get a black woman 007.

That is true. So, I mean, I don't think that that's entirely impossible.
Just saying.

I mean, times are changing. And changing.
It was supposed to be.

It was supposed to be

Jean Reggae, whatever you just said.

Yeah, sure was. That's why he quit Bridgerton.

That was the rumor. And mistakes were made.
You shouldn't have left Bridgerton. Jonathan Bailey can do it all.

Come on, sir. I love when you get spicy like this.
I love it. I love it.
It's my favorite. It's my favorite.
My favorite is having you on.

Open invite. Literally.
Open invite. Down the street, anytime.
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