197: Leaving it in 2024..

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We're like the three chipmunks. The Christmas chipmunks.
See, it works that I'm in the middle because I still want to balance out the blues. Oh my God, you're so good.
Please win. We got to get you in the studio with Justin.
Start making some actual music. A chipmunk Christmas album.
I could sing chipmunk. See, with a filter, I'd be so down to sing.
and i think me with a filter would be good oh my god what could we like we could sing like mary did you know i heard the like pentatonic version of that song recently i was like okay this goes hard no it's good are Yes. Yes.
Okay. I'm really nervous for this episode.
Why, queen? Well, well, this is the last Two Hot Takes episode of 2024. Forever.
I know. I know.
I kind of paused there a little bit, and I'm like, it's actually the last one. It's kind of like when One Direction was like, we're taking an indefinite pause.
Is that how they worded it? Something like that. I was never a direction or something.
Yeah. It's always the language of like, it keeps you hoping.
Yeah. But then you just kind of know.
I know. It's never going to happen again.
That will be a crazy day when I announce I'm done. How dare you say that that could ever happen? You picture her being 80.
Like, am I being on this whole fork kicking? I actually think that that would be such a good podcast. I would actually love if you started bringing on just like random grandparents.
My grandma's been on my dad's show. We did an episode with my grandma.
She's 80. She could be incredible.
get her on my podcast I think this trip home I could really do it Is she like against it a little bit or No No she's chill My mom doesn't want to be on my podcast at all She just doesn't want to be perceived by the internet Parents with podcasts could be such a thing We just rotate parents every episode But grandparents even better in my opinion Am I humble well yeah they're so wise the stories the experience through so much shit and they get so like straight up they get they really get to it they don't waste no time well i've become surprised how grandparents are just now that we are the age we are are just down to talk about things and you're like oh i thought this was so taboo i know like this doesn't exist in grandparents world but we don't realize grandparents all they're living life as well long time ago they'd been doing all this long before us recently when i heard that like our generation or gen z is having less sex than any generation before i was like so what does that mean about what kind of life

were my grandparents?

I don't think they were actually.

My grandparents got,

the ones that I know

got married at like 18.

Depends if they were boomers.

Yeah.

Because they were booming.

Oh.

They were booming.

It's in the name.

It was the parents of the boomers, yeah?

Yeah.

Which is the silent generation.

So the silent was getting it on. was going crazy imagine that time yeah well and I think even now I'm forgetting this stat because it's been a while since I've heard it but like STDs and nursing homes are rampant rampant they do be banging they're going out with a boom and what else should they do podcasting yeah i'm gonna go mobile rig the rig just like rolls in has two chairs on it two mics it's got a ramp sit down grandma with a walker or a chair i think that's my goal 2025 oh my god i would love like a video episode of you reading to i take stories to like a panel of grandmothers.
Like five 80-year-old women. I love- Say less.
It's beautiful to me. So my boyfriend shits in the shower- It will happen.
And he stomps it down the drain. I think that's what we do.
What do you guys think all, you know, what do you guys think about that? Let me know if you guys want that in 2025. I read some of the most iconic stories.
We'll do bracket style two hot takes to decide the winners. It'll be like March Madness.
Oh my God. And we'll bring on some seniors and we'll see what they think of these stories.
You be careful. You don't want to get their blood pressure too high.
I know. Read coconut story.
Dude, could you imagine? I wouldn't want that blood on my hands.

I bet there are a lot out there that listen to this podcast, though.

Like, my mom, she's not like a grandmother age.

She's very young.

She's middle-aged.

She's only like 60.

Okay.

But she loves, like, Am I the Asshole stories so much.

She loves looking at the—and make her way to Facebook, I guess, when she sees them.

But she also loves this podcast as well.

But I think you probably have a lot of seniors out there.

Hey,

girls.

Hey.

And boys.

I'll put together an application form,

or you can nominate your grandma or grandpa.

The golden two hot takes.

Yep.

The golden takes.

This is going to be good.

Okay.

But that's next year.

Next year,

we've got some really big, really crazy things going on. But this year, this episode, the last of 2024.
Realism. They're all stories that have to do with things we want to leave in 2024.
Bad energy, bad boyfriends, bad mom-in-laws, you name it. They're all things we're leaving in the past.

Obsessed. Are we ready? Locked in.
Let's dive in. so okay up first this is coming from our very own 2HotTakes subreddit, 21 hours old, titled, Am I the asshole for getting upset with my mother-in-law for calling my son by the wrong name because she likes it? This diva.
My son is four months old. My husband and I absolutely love his name.
However, my mother-in-law recently started calling him a girl's version of his name because she likes the name. Mother-in-law does not live near us, so at least it isn't to his face.
My husband has told her to not call him that because not only is it not his name, but it's typically a girl's name.

We just received Christmas gifts in the mail from mother-in-law with the girl's name and a smiley face written on his gift.

Am I the asshole for being upset about this?

Should we just let it go?

I just think if parents have strong rules about how they want to raise their kids, all of the other people should respect that. I would love to know what the names are so that I could be like, all right, like, is it really that crazy? Like Marty calling them Mart.
I don't know. Yeah.
Or Marta. Mart.
Hey, Mart. That was just closest top of my head.
But like, agree it's like alex alexa yeah that's what i'm envisioning or like something close justin justine or alex and like alexie like i don't know alexandra yeah it's like alexander alexandra like it feels like a really passive aggressive like and it's like okay that's his mom maybe she's always wanted a girl, it feels like a really passive aggressive, like, and it's like, okay, that's his mom. Maybe she's always wanted a girl.
And it's like, well, this is your grandson. Like, what are you trying to do? Like, you're trying to give this kid a complex? Like, I don't know.
It's just weird. It's so passive aggressively weird, especially once they've asked her to stop.
Yeah. And she's still doing it.'s your child's name for what what well it's like i don't know how much effect in the long run it would actually have on your child but if you want to set i'd be fucked up i'd be like grandma doesn't know my name yeah but you pick up nicknames like you get nicknames in middle school from and you don't choose them and it just happens and's like, imagine your parents went and hunted down everyone.
It's like, you need to call them, blah, blah. And just, I don't know.
I get it because it's within the family. And it's so direct to where it's being written on a card and on a gift.
Where it's kind of like message not received. I'm going to keep doing this and I don't care.
Then you got to start setting the boundary. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, my name is Michaela and some of my friends call me Mitch, which is like kind of a boy's name, but I also think it's cute.
I don't think it would have given me a complex growing up, but I think like what's important is if parents say, we don't want them watching this TV rating or we don't want them blah, blah i think that the external or whatever family should respect that especially yeah if they've said it and they mean it movies is a big one and like food grandparents will fight like if they're like we really don't want her having two whole chocolate cakes and and snickers and mountain dew like let's give her an apple maybe some carrots and then a cookie. And grandma's like, you're not going to tell me how to babysit when I'm watching my grandkid.
It's like, yeah. Grandparents do that with dogs real bad.
Oh my God. The dogs are always sick after grandma watches them.
You know what I'm saying? Always. Is that a thing? Yeah.
Always. Justin might have some personal history with that one.
Always always yeah justin's grandma's dog was also like 200 pounds no it was other grandma oh all the grandma but the other grandma is bad with it too both grand oh yeah i'd have to have conversations with her at family gatherings but it was you know when the dogs would physically stay with grandma but i gotta say i turned out okay and okay. And maybe I did get an extra couple cookies.
But I'm good, okay? I enjoyed them. So, top comment on this one.
Start calling mother-in-law by the wrong name. Preferably the male version of her name.
This is not in good fun. This is disrespectful.
Get her ass. Next comment.
they need to start calling mother-in-law the name of father-in-law's ex-girlfriends before he met mother-in-law. That will hit pretty hard.
Oh, my God. That's what I'd do, but I'm petty as fuck.
Okay, Kimmy Mack. These women from 40 years ago, why am I in it? Damn, Kimmy Mack is coming with a vengeance.
Someone goes, I see you, twin. I'd be at the bottom of the barrel right with you.
This is crazy. This comment goes, I had a friend for years that spelled my name wrong all the time.
He has a uniquely spelled name too. Derek? D-E-R-E-K.
That is a normal. That's a really common name.
I'm like, my uncle's Derek, it's D-E-R-I-C, but I feel like that one's good too. No, I feel like D-E-R-E-K is really a common name, but I love that.
Finally tried correcting him to no avail. One day I texted him, derrick and he went on a tirade about how that wasn't how you spell his name how long had we been friends etc petty is the only language some people respond to next comment isn't derrick the standard spelling okay thank you d-e-r-e-k like that's the only thing on my mind now, not even the actual I'm like the asshole.
Derek is like going through all the names. That's always like if you get a souvenir and they've got preset names on them, Derek's going to be on there.
Most common way to spell Derek. Double R's.
Derek, D-E-R-E-K is the correct spelling of this common first name. Yeah.
Derek is the most widely accepted and used. That's what I was thinking.
This story a little bit's giving Bach from Wicked. Oh, Bach.
Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach. Me and Bach.
No. Bach.
No one saw the remix? I did see. I actually did see that today.
It's like a dubstep remix. And the actress kind of like dancing to i did i didn't see that oh she posted it she was like shirt what the hell shirt marissa yeah who you met she's so sorry sorry sorry oh how can we make every episode about wiki because it's constantly mispronounced the whole show bach yeah Yeah.
Is it? She calls him Bic.

Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's just Glenda.

She's doing her best.

So we do have some edits.

Ooh, edits.

Yeah.

Edit.

Mother-in-law lives across the country,

so we see her once or twice a year.

She called my husband a week or so ago

while he was at work.

He can chat at the phone at work

as long as he's doing his job. And this topic came up.
Since he was at work, he was limited to what he can say, obviously, but he is on the same page as me and hates it and will be calling her. This is a relatively new issue within the last week or so.
Also, no contact is not an option as the house we currently rent is theirs. Edit number two.
I've met a few people with his name and it's gained popularity over the past year or so. It isn't common, but it's not uncommon.
Per mynamestats.com, his name is used 94% of the time for boys and the girl name she's calling him is used 99% of the time for girls. And it is? I mean, it's bad.
Like, you shouldn't do this either way just because they asked you not to. But I do wonder if she's doing it for a gendered reason or if she just thinks it's cute.
I don't think that affects, like, it being just stop doing it. But I'm wondering.
Trying to put her stamp. Yeah.
Right on the forehead. We do find out the name.
Oh, thank God. Edit three.
Okay. His name is Brooks.
I. She's calling him Brooke.
She's calling him Brooklyn. Oh.
I mean, I could, I could see why she would just think that'd be a cute nickname. That doesn't change my opinion about like, just stop doing it when the parents tell you to stop.

Yeah.

But like Brooklyn, that's kind of gender neutral to me.

Well, my first thought is city.

Like I always think Brooklyn, New York.

But like every Brooklyn I've ever met has been a girl.

So I'm like, I would calling it and like calling that, you know, I'd be like, but didn't we know a cat named brooklyn wasn't there a cat named brooklyn that you knew yeah yeah so i'm like it gives animal name too brooklyn has a lot of options yeah what it could be i love the name brooks i will just say like i love that is a good name i want to write that down i was on chess team with brooks i love Brooks. Like some of those other ones, like someone just named their baby River.
I forget. Some celebrity.
I just, I love like, yeah. It's hard to think of a good boy name.
Boy names are harder. Oh, I got a list.
Oh, good for you. I'll show you.
I'd like to see it. It's good.
Francis is on there. I love the name Francis.
I think that's a good one. Franck.
Not Franck. That's giving a father of the bride, the wedding planner, Franck, which God, I need a wedding.
We're going to, that's another day. But yeah, no, I, I don't think asshole.
I think really hubby needs to put his foot down. Yeah.
Yeah. It's really a relatively minor issue, but like if it bothers you that much, then get it sorted and stick to it.
Just call people the right name in 2025. Let's just work on that.
Don't dead name people. Don't make up names for kids that aren't their names.
Like let's embrace being respectful. I'm going to keep trying to give you a nickname.
No. I love nicknames.
He tries to call me Mo. That's cute.
Yes. You You guys It's the bartender From the Simpsons I can't be Mo That's not what I think of In that nickname No It's just Mo No it's kind of cute But like if you don't like it Yeah Then you know that's Thank you That's that I think you can do better Is the point All the others are taken but it's good we're good okay moving to

the next one this is coming from r slash relationship advice titled my 24 female boyfriend 23 male cheated four months ago and got a girl pregnant what the fuck do i do now leave him in 2024

he just told me today

during finals week. We've been together for six years, known each other for seven.
He said it happened four months ago and the girl just texted him saying she's pregnant and doesn't know if she wants to get rid of it or not. Well, we planned to get a house together and live together forever, but now, I honestly don't know.
I thought he was good. He's my best friend.
I just feel nothing right now. Honestly, it hasn't even hit me.
We never really fought. We got along.
Same values and interests. I'll let myself hurt after finals.
I feel gross for letting him touch me after he did that, even though I didn't know. I feel bad about myself for still loving him.
He's my best friend. I thought we were going to be together forever.
What am I supposed to do now? I feel so lost and confused. I think the reality is, you know, cheating is something people work through or they don't.
Cheating and getting someone pregnant, it's kind of like you're staring up at Mount Everest and at the top is a potential happy, perfect relationship for you guys in the end. I don't know if it's worth going to battle for that, but it comes down to you.
But I think you're really thinking, I mean, it just happens. You're thinking out of emotion and probably not a ton of logic.
So I'd let some time pass, get through finals, and then really allow yourself the time to process before making any sort of decision. Wait, did he get her pregnant or the girl he cheated with? The girl he cheated with.
Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
I just, I feel like the way way she worded it i don't think she will ever see him the same like feeling gross like by him touching her as someone who did take back someone who cheated on me it was awful like i became a crazy person i never got over it and then we broke up yeah but i mean it can go different for different people. I can.
But it doesn't have to. Like, there are so many people out there.
What he provides can be replicated. And you can find someone better.
That. You really can.
I think so. I think so.
I mean, I have a problem with the fact that he cheated four months ago. And the only reason he's telling her now is because that other girl is pregnant yeah it's not like he's coming clean just to be like oh fuck i cheated last night and like we've been together six years like what was i thinking like it's not like that it's like you're coming clean because you have to come clean otherwise you never would have which also makes me think it's probably not the first time.
Yeah. That's so, that's a huge part of it.
Like if you can't trust that person again, and then you're always second guessing things, you're always trying to find the truth, trying to see if there's actually something else behind what they're saying to you. It's just so hard to come back from that.
And to wait that long, like you're thinking about it that whole time every single day i mean rather every single minute is a chance to come clean but yeah why do it on finals week that it's like did you want to sabotage her even more yeah like let me get through this week it's selfish it's because he i don't know probably is just at a point where it's like i can't he's freaking out about his own sake and his own life and so now it's like i have to release this for my own sake i mean that's what's really feels like and i think a lot of people do do that like a lot of people come clean for their own conscience rather than like the benefit of the other person. And that's like one thing I used to have a saying for it in my head and it's like it's fallen out.
But it's like, why are you coming clean for your own selfish reasons? It's like, just keep it to yourself. Like unless the other person, case by case basis, right? There's a lot of nuance there.
But I'm like, sometimes it's just just like you fucked up you don't need to bring that other person down just keep it to yourself you made that choice you live with it bitch yeah similar with like conversations with someone that you've broken up with and they treated you badly and now they want to get it off their conscience and apologize about it when you're okay now it's like this isn't actually for me this is to make you feel like a better person like you're apologizing but it's to take the load off your your shoulders i've been good i got over it myself yeah yeah the one other thing i was thinking with this one too obviously birth control methods can fail but i always find it extra disrespectful And like the bar is really low, right?

But I'm like, if someone cheats and they don't use protection,

I find that so disrespectful because not only were you violating the boundaries of your relationship and your love for that person, your truth, whatever.

Like you were so disrespectful that you didn't even wrap it up to prevent the spread of disease.

Yeah, like bodily harm. That extra detail really pisses me off.
Well, it's unlikely that in between the cheating and the next time he was with her, he went and got tested and did everything. I mean, it's...
It's been four months. Some stuff like takes a bit to bake.
Yeah, yeah. And it's unlikely that you only cheated one time and happened to get someone pregnant that one time that you cheated the chances are low yeah like low i'm so annoyed we do have quite a few comments from op um one is yeah i'm coming to terms that this is probably the end of the relationship especially if she keeps it i never want children even as a stepmom.
There you go. So it's like, that's an extra nail in the coffin there.
I just scheduled an appointment to see my doctor. I have awful contamination OCD too.
So this whole situation makes my skin crawl zero out of 10. And there is, like I looked at Opie's account, there is a post history talking about like a metaphobia.

Oh my God.

Ooh, wow.

Yeah.

So like, yeah.

It's time to look forward.

Put the blinders on.

Passes in the past.

Mm-hmm.

2025 is going to be amazing.

That's right.

2025, leaving this dude behind.

It's going to be your year, baby.

But I understand like the difficulty in immediately separating from that person i think it sounds a lot easier in theory to be like oh yeah someone cheated on you and got someone else pregnant obviously i'm immediately leaving i have more self-respect than that and like yeah in the ideal world when you're a little bit separated from the situation you will and you'll feel better later on that you did that

but when you're in the moment and that's your best friend like that is so hard to emotionally detach all of those crossing six years it's like the worst feeling no i i imagine like because we're our six-year anniversary is december 27th oh my god yeah so it's like that would be like if i found that out i would i'd go nuclear but i know i would have a really hard time moving forward because it's like we have this life we have this future like yeah unwinding all of that in my head jocelyn's my left hand like i'm just like we're just he's my person so i'm just like i would dude i'd be catatonic it i mean yeah you when you have the right partner, you build your lives around each other. Like you start to fit like a glove.
Not that you're completely dependent on each other, but just that's how life works. And then, you know, we always say a lot that the past is no reason to stay with someone in a bad situation.
But yes, you have to consider and realize that it's going to be extremely difficult to move forward. But there are much better things ahead.
I agree. Top comment on this post.
Hold your finals, hold your tears, but do not hold on to this man. He didn't just cheat.
He created a whole new life while playing house with you and he waited four months to tell you Only coming clean because pregnancy made it impossible to hide. That's not a confession.
That's damage control That was my thought exactly I know you're numb right now six years of forever plans just got nuked by one night of selfishness. But don't you dare feel gross about yourself.
The only person who should feel disgusted is the one who betrayed six years of trust faster than you can say positive pregnancy test. We never really fought.
Doesn't mean shit when he's out here fighting for the gold medal in relationship destruction. Your best friend spent four months looking you in the face, planning a future while knowing he might have a baby on the way with someone else.
That's not friendship. That's fraud with a side of gaslighting.
Focus on your finals right now because your education is the only thing that won't betray you. But after that, time to face reality.
Whatever future you planned with him just got rewritten into someone else's story. He's about to be someone's father, maybe.
That's not something you can sweep under the rug of forgiveness. Don't let six years of history trap you in a lifetime of hurt.
Sometimes the hardest part isn't losing someone you love, it's realizing they weren't who you thought they were in the first place. Let him deal with his baby mama drama.
You've got a whole life to rebuild without his chaos in it. Was this written by a poet? I know they read him.
That was incredible. I'm like overwhelmed by that.
That was like checked over five times. That was insane.
That was beautiful. Concise.
Read to filth. Oh my God.
I'm ready to tag them in. I'll go sit over there.
Yeah, now he's got some bills to pay. You go off and do your thing.
Yeah. And in the prime of life, 24.
Oh my God. Let's go.
Yeah. Let's get crazy.
Let's get wild. That's when you find your real person.
Aw, guys.

Isn't this nice?

Well, we met at 24.

That's what I, yeah.

I was 25.

That's so cute.

How old am I?

I think I was 25.

I don't know.

Anyways, but the last episode we had, you were like, maybe I do want love.

And I'm like, did I say that?

Yeah, you did.

That's so crazy.

It's out there for you. Or no love.
Yeah. Choose love.
Yeah. Yeah, maybe.
2025. 2025.
Yeah. You never know.
Maybe I'll leave my chastity in 2024. Maybe that's what I'm leaving in 2024.
I love that for you. Could be.
I love that. That's a great plan.
Go, Michaela. Okay, moving on to the next one.
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Trigger warning on this next one, friends. It does contain talks of abuse.
It gets a little heavy, so please skip ahead if you feel you can't handle that today. This one I have read.
It has since come out with an update. I have no idea what it says, though.
But the original post had me furious. So, again, I'm sorry if this doesn't fit the episode theme once we read the update.
But we'll see what you guys think. So this is coming from r slash relationship advice titled, last weekend, I,

36 female, drunkenly flashed my husband's, 31 male, friends, and he still can't let it go.

I've apologized and promised not to drink again. What more can I do? It's nearly 6am here and he has yet again woken me a.m.
To tell me how much he hates me and how disappointed he is in me Last saturday, I went out to lunch with friends I've probably only ever been drunk 10 times in my whole life and this is one of them I wasn't terribly drunk, but I was definitely tipsy It was about 4 p.m. when I got home and my my husband had two friends around watching football with him.
My phone was dying, so I went to get the charger, which was plugged in near the TV, and I was blocking it as I struggled to reach for the charger. They were playfully telling me to get out of the way and booing me when one of them said, quote, move your arse, we're trying to watch the match.
And I genuinely don't know what came over me as I've never done anything like this before. But I turned around and pulled my top and bra down and said, watch these instead.
I feel so embarrassed just writing that. They all sat there in shock and there was an awkward couple of seconds of silence, and then I just left the room as quickly as I could, without my charger.
After they left, my husband came upstairs and was screaming and shouting at me that I embarrassed him, cheated on him, he hates me, he insulted my looks and age a few times, which I won't repeat here. I just kept apologizing and said I'd make it up to him.
The next day, I again said sorry, and I would leave if that's what he wanted, or I'd do anything to make it up to him. He ended up writing me a list of things I had to do to make it up to him.
The list was, one, don't drink. I can handle that.
As I said, I don't drink anyways. Two, delete his two friends who were over off social media.
I did that. Three, do all the cooking and cleaning for a month.
Okay. Four, message the girlfriends of the friends, telling them what I did and apologize.
I did that. Neither really cared.
Five, sleep in the spare room until he wants me back in bed with him. I've done the things he asked, but every night he's woken me up, shouting at me and name calling me.
This morning, I told him enough is enough and to either let me sleep and start to move past it or I'll go live with my mom until he decides whether he wants me or not. I know it's only been a week and it's my fault, but I don't know how much more I can take.
Was I harsh to say I'd leave and can I do more to make him feel better? I'm so curious about your take first. Okay.
Your face just now was horrified though. Well, I like to, you know, let people go first.
Take it away. Appreciate, appreciate.
Okay. So I think you did yourself the biggest favor you've ever done yourself in this relationship because you're exposing who your partner really is.
And whatever with this action, whether it's right or wrong or whether you regret it,

who cares?

Because it just saved you so much time

and all of this,

all of his actions,

I feel like would have come out at some point.

He is very immature.

He's very controlling,

somewhat bordering what could lead to abuse. I would peg him as an abuser right now.
This is abusive. Well, this is, yes.
And I'm saying it can get worse and worse. I think this exposed something and it is time to leave and leave all of this behind because this isn't a reaction from someone I would want as a partner in the long run.
You didn't go out and cheat. That's ridiculous.
This is not cheating. Yeah.
To say you cheated on me. This is like a mistake.
Yeah. It's probably not the right time or place or whatever for that.
It's just boobs. Yeah, it is.
But it's just like, I bet there's a little bit of regret. But regardless,

it's just like, I bet there's a little bit of regret. But regardless, it's not that big of a deal.
And it just kept getting worse, like doing dishes and cleaning and go sleep in the spare room until a mature person who actually loves you and is your partner would have not yelled and screamed. That was the first point I knew we were going downhill.
If it were me and I was upset by it, right? Let's just say I would come upstairs and I'd say, hey, that was a little interesting. Like, why did you do that? Made me very uncomfortable.
It made them uncomfortable. And now it's just kind of an awkward thing.
But I would never in my life yell and scream and put all these provisions over this. It's ridiculous.
Yeah. And she already like feels embarrassed about it.
She already was like, I don't know why I did that. I understand like that bothering someone and then being upset about it.
So I was like, oh, yeah, like I would probably be upset about that, too. And then I was like, wait, but like not like that.
And also the way that he was yelling at her, like things about her age and stuff like that, saying things that she wouldn't repeat. And then, yeah, like the ways that he told her to make it up to him, a lot of those didn't have anything to do with actually healing the problem.
No. Like they weren't things that would repair trust or like repair it's just like completely do these servant things for me and also never drink again and never like that i don't it felt like he was waiting for a moment yeah anything for her to misstep for him to just unleash all this it feels like he's been stacking all this up in his head yeah i think that's a great point too like he's definitely using this to his advantage and then like to your point mikayla like the servant thing it's like do all the cooking and cleaning for a month what does that have to do with us and our relationship and me you know flashing someone and making a mistake right like what you're punishing me like yeah you're going above and beyond punishing me.
You're punishing me. You're going above and beyond punishing me.
You're punishing me by making me do a bunch of labor. You're trying to embarrass me.
You want me to be embarrassed further, which is why you're making me message these people. You're yelling at me.
You're talking terribly to me. You're waking me up in the middle of the night screaming at me which interrupting someone's sleep again and again that's that is a warfare tactic like that is not that's not okay break someone down and to have that much rage every single night like not even just blowing up once it's not that huge it's crazy yeah like sitting there just yeah and by the sounds of it this post is coming from i think it's like a week later so it's like oh oh the from like the original like from when it happened so it's like he's been doing this for a week like yeah oh you're screaming at me every night at 2am for a week i'm gonna hit you with a bat like i i hate being woken up so it's like there's no there's no way around that it's not like hey can we talk like i'm trying to fall asleep and i can't sleep it's like coming and screaming at her like yeah this is this is honestly this is scary yeah this is not and it's like if there's an issue in a relationship for example an issue of trust then the ways to make it up to someone is to maybe go to therapy together or talk about like maybe what caused you to act that way or whatever like if there's an issue in a relationship there are ways to address it that actually fix that issue instead of just like bombarding someone and controlling them and like humiliating them and belittling them.
Like that doesn't fix whatever you're saying is the problem in your head. This guy's a child.
Yeah. Insane.
Someone does point out the comment like point three, do all the cooking and cleaning for a month. One of these things is like the other he's just like sneak that in there all the others make sense but this one sleep in the spare room until he wants me back in bed with him this last one is not okay it's like putting a dog in its crate and you're not even supposed to put dogs in their crates as punishment crates should be a a safe space.
So it's like, get out of here.

Go sleep in the spare room.

It's like, until I want you.

Like, this is a person, not a yo-yo.

Mm-hmm.

Ugh, insane.

People who actually get cheated on

aren't even reacting this meanly.

Right.

I'm just, I'm blown away.

I'm not seeing any comments from OP, but someone does point out something interesting. Throughout all of this, OP never mentioned that this kind of behavior was abnormal for him.
Being upset and betrayed is one thing. Screaming at her every night and taking advantage of her guilt is totally different.
Sounds like he's lashing out trying to punish her. They need therapy, says the next comment.
Next comment down. He's trying to figure out how to work it to his advantage.
He can get out of cooking and cleaning forever. Well, you have to make it up to me.
So for the rest of our lives, you have to do all the cooking and cleaning without complaint because you flashed my friends. That one threw me for a says the next comment yeah it's just so weird okay the update better fit in the theme i'll tell you right now manifesting he apologized he came back we're we're so happy we're doing couples therapy now i'll leave is that what it is uh update which is coming days later.
The night after I made this post, he yet again woke me up, shouting and shining a torch in my face. So I'd had enough and I went to my mom's.
Torch is, I think, British for flashlight. That makes more sense.
You looked concerned. I was like, he brought a lantern? A flamethrower.
While there, he was constantly texting me, abusing and calling me names, so I blocked him, and then he started sending things to my mom. I went back to the house to discuss things with him and see if he wants to work on things or end things.
He opened the door, and once I was in, he pushed me in the back to the floor, calling me a slag. As I tried to get back up, he kicked me back down and again called me a slag.
Oh my god, I just like don't even want to go on. This is just so much worse than I thought.
No, but you were right that this was like a pre-indicator of further abuse. I got up and said, you're being fucking stupid.
None of this is appropriate for one second of a boob flash. He turned around and punched me in the mouth.
There was nothing dramatic after that. I just turned around and walked back out.
I've saved the pictures of my lip and the messages from him afterwards calling me and saying it's the least I deserve. I'm at my mom's now and after the new year, I will ask him for a divorce and tell him that we either split fairly and quickly or I'll ring the police.
Some of his friends also found my original post and have been messaging me, calling me names for airing his business in the public. Hello friends, if you read this.
All this over one second

of boobs.

And for the people asking how I'd like it

if he did it, he's always topless.

And for those comparing my boobs to

genitals, I'd laugh if he

willicoptered around the room,

because it's quite big, so it would look

funny. LOL.

Ew.

You don't need none of that going on.

Oh my God.

I'm just...

She should chop it off.

Hit it with a hammer.

On the bright side,

she is leaving him in 2024.

What a badass.

Yeah.

Absolutely

needed to be left in 2024.

It's difficult to do.

So props to her.

A lot of people are saying like, go to the police now.

Go to the police immediately and don't ask him for a divorce.

Force the divorce through.

He deserves all the consequences that are coming. Don't hold the police in reserve go straight to them then divorce him and that is like a good point where it's like he doesn't need protecting he chose to become a violent abuser and hit you if it does help your divorce move forward quicker put it on record like there Like there's some states that like, and I get this, this sounds like the UK given the context, but there's some states that like you have to wait and be separated for a year and some places it's two years.
Like there's some states that have like really strict divorce rules. Like we talked about this on a Patreon and someone commented on it and they were like in this state you have to wait like and be separated two years or something i was like oh my god that's that's insane that's like 1800 amount of time yeah and so i'm like if this helps you and it should be documented this should go on his.
So the next person that gets into a relationship with him,

there's a record.

They know what they're dealing with

because this is not okay.

Right, because that's not on you necessarily to do,

but that not only benefits

your divorce proceedings, hopefully,

but yeah, then it can be out there

and you can help future potential victims. it's crazy i know i'm like shocked that it went because that is often i think in a lot of these stories our fear of where it'll end up but we don't always get that update of it actually happening and i wonder if any of this was slipping through the cracks before this.
I wonder if there was signs throughout, you know, it's hard to get the context in one Reddit post, but it just makes you wonder because there are very scary instances where all of a sudden, relationship perfect, one thing happens and it's just like, Yeah, and also like, I'm also someone who doesn't drink that often and i've dated people who had controlling aspects of their personality that didn't come out until later because i wasn't doing any of the things that would have made them upset yeah and that kind of sounds like what happened here like she doesn't drink that often and the one time she did like he made a big problem about it it's like well now well, now you can never drink again. So it's like sometimes there are these dormant controlling traits that you just haven't triggered because maybe you just don't go out and you don't really do those types of things.
You don't even realize that they would cause such a fuss about it if you did. Well, I don't think you should ever have that power over someone.
You should never tell someone you can never do this again. If you're a supportive person, you'd say, might be smart to have one or two and then be good, and just see how that goes.
But never, you should never drink again. You should never do this again.
That's not supportive. That's not a teammate.
Well, it should also be like, I didn't I didn't appreciate what happened. Like it really, I felt really disrespected.
You know, maybe you should just evaluate your alcohol intake. Like it should always like be their choice versus like, you know, your ultimatums are more so about you and your boundaries versus controlling the other person.
Right. And I would feel that way too.
But if I came to my partner and they were already like, I'm embarrassed that I did that, I'd be like, oh, then we don't even need to talk about this. Like you feel weird about it.
I feel weird about it. That was just like a silly blip that happened.
I mean, everyone has different comfort levels with that type of thing. And obviously you hope to be with a partner that has a similar comfort level to you as those things.
But yeah, if someone's like, wow, I can't believe I did that. The moment I did it, I was so embarrassed to be like, well, then I don't even need to tell you that I'm uncomfortable with it if you already are.
Yeah. He was waiting.
He was. He was.
And it's like the moment she stepped out of line and out of his control, he went crazy. And I will say too, like if you've ever blacked out or drinking too much and done something stupid and you wake up the next day and have to hear what you did.
That is punishment enough. You are just sick over it.
And so it's like, she's clearly punishing herself. There doesn't need to be this added layer of torture.
And I don't know. And maybe this is just me.
Maybe we need some comments, but I don't think flashing your boobs is like the biggest deal But I will say i'm like very desensitized to it because I have multiple friends that like They're boob flashers Like that's their prerogative after like too many drinks or a couple drinks even like they They're just flashers like ever since college. I've always had friends that flash flash I don't know I don't think it's a big deal but I understand that there are people out there who would be like that's a boundary hey why'd you do that the other thing the other rule of his that was crazy to me in regards to that is to unfollow his friends on social media after that experience like that also feels like an indicator of crazy control because like like what are you implying by that like what are you saying that she was trying to do are you really like you don't even want her to know your friends anymore because of this instance like that that one was also kind of crazy you don't trust your friends yeah you uh yeah sorry uh, yeah, sorry.
No,

I was just going to say it almost felt like a dog pissing on a light pole,

like marking his territory. Like they saw her and they will never see her again.

Like you can't be trusted.

You're not going to be around my,

like it felt very territorial in a weird way.

Anyways,

on to better things,

moving along and people moving along. Yeah.
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Mikael's like please give me a reprieve

either spine actually For the end. Maybe lighten it up now.
Mikael's like, please give me a reprieve. Mikael, either is fine, actually.
I'm fine either way. No, but that depends.
Like, do we lighten up now and then it just goes really downhill forever? How downhill does it go? Yeah. Because I can stay in the mud if we need to.
Okay, I won't go as hard. I'll give you a slight reprieve, but we'll still save the good one for the end.
Okay. So this is coming from Am I the Asshole? Would I be TA public? It is titled, Am I the Asshole for telling my son to stop treating his fiancé like a child? My son, 26 male, recently got engaged to his fiancé, 23 female, and my husband and I flew to where they live for an engagement celebration that his fiancé's parents were hosting.
We were there for a week and stayed at my son's apartment in his guest room. Throughout the week, I noticed that he practically babies his fiancé and treats her like a child.
He brushes her hair every night, which is simply excessive to me. One night, I got up late at night and went to grab something from the kitchen, and I knocked on their bedroom door to ask, and when I went in, she was sitting on his lap and eating ice cream while they were watching a movie.
On our last night there, my son was cooking dinner for everyone, and his fiancé just sat on the countertop chatting with him the entire time. It comes off as something you would expect a father-slash-young-daughter relationship to look like.
Before we left, I spoke to my son about this, and I told him to stop babying his fiance, and he didn't respond and change the topic of conversation. And he has been distant since then, and I don't know what I should do.
Am I the asshole? Am I crazy? Because wait, those didn't sound like that much of like she was sitting on his lap. That sounds like a normal relationship thing and sitting on the counter talking to him all night why is that babying am i crazy i'm like this is love this this is love am i wrong what i think her husband just hates her well you know what's the where is this coming from like what's the point why is this bothering you she didn't really give a good example of the babying.
I was like kind of ready to be on her side. And then I was like, wait, what was the...
Spoon feeding the meal the whole time. She was cutting up his steak for him and feeding him and rubbed his back to burp him after.
That kind of just sounds like sweet. I would actually like to be burped like a baby thank you i just i don't get it i'm confused this is just giving like not great mom son dynamics i think there's a little bit of like a lack of boundaries here i mean that to me was kind of a given with the one night i got up late to grab a snack i knocked on their bedroom door to ask and I went in.
Yeah. You went into their bedroom late at night.
She was sitting on his lap and eating ice cream while they were watching a movie. Yeah.
Like that example doesn't sound like anything. Also, they're newly engaged.
Like what? They're celebrating their love. Like that sounds just like engagement, bliss, bliss happy like a couple winding down after a day eating ice cream like would you rather them be like five feet apart in bed just respectable distance watching the movie like this i don't know apparently do you want your son's fiance to hate him like what what i don't know and then the other example was she was like sitting on the counter talking to him that's the most normal that's what that's like an engaged partner like you're cooking i'm sure if he needed help she would pop off the counter and grab the milk like yeah you know i mean like at least she's not just in her room on her phone like she's engaging with him still she's she might not be cooking but she's present right and i feel like if she had any better examples of this she would have given them oh for sure so that's why i just don't think this is an issue this is weird this is weird 2024 what's getting left behind is butting into people's relationships and being weird with your sons yeah that's what and i was like it's either going to go one of two ways either yes they're being really obnoxious or this is one of those mothers of sons who unfortunately just don't like to see their son with a girl in that way and they get like weird about it yeah no you've brushed my hair i literally said it justin day, I was like, I would love to teach you how to use that Revlon blow dry brush.

Because my arms get a little tired sometimes.

Yeah, absolutely.

You're up there.

I got to work up to that, though.

We'll start small.

We'll let you do one layer.

The bottom layer is easy.

Yeah, yeah, no.

We'll get back to the regular brush first.

Yeah.

And then.

You know how to braid, though.

He's been practicing braiding by braiding the horses.

So, you know, he's getting there. He's ready to be a girl dad being trained yeah uh top comment on this one you're the asshole i expected a description of him treating her like a baby not basic romantic gestures thank god i'm not crazy i thought it was crazy.
If you continue your behavior, expect even less contact with your son. And can we just, there's one line here I do want to point out too.
It comes off as something you would expect a father-young daughter relationship to look like. I don't think so.
I don't think, I don't think so. I mean, the brushing the hair, but like this like sitting on sitting on the lap I mean I guess like yeah if they're really young but like I don't know maybe I'm overthinking that one but I didn't really no it's just not where my head would go no the statement means nothing it's like that's what you'd expect living breathing humans to do well like it's just weird i know next comment down i thought maybe he was talking down to her or ordering her around not just being in love next comment the absolute horror of sitting in your fiance's lap in your own bed while spending time in your own bedroom.
I'm just like, what went through her mind when she went into their bedroom and like saw her sitting on his lap that she thought that that was a gross, like incestuous moment? I don't understand. Also, who does that? Like just walks in.
I mean, I mean who Late at night? We know those people though Knock knock Door opens Give me a second Hey Could have been way worse My dad So my dad did once Oh Yeah He has since learned Do not enter He'll knock Let me know he's out there But But the other day, we also had to tell him to, like, not use our bathroom and, like, use the bathroom that's meant for guests. And he's like, why? What am I going to see in there? And I'm like, you never know.
You never know. It's our bathroom.
And we just sometimes have stuff. There was stuff in there, too.
There was stuff in there. And I'm just like, fuck.
So people do start getting a little interesting with their comments. Okay.
Let me see what you guys think on this. Someone goes, if you're jealous, just say that.
And it's gross that you even think you have a say in their romantic life. You're the asshole.
Sounds like mommy is jealous that her widow boy has a girlfriend. Next comment.
One, which OP responds to, Info, are you jealous? Why were you knocking on their bedroom door late at night and surprised to see intimacy? How is your relationship with your husband? OP responds, jealous of her? from what I see she doesn't bring much to the table and is leeching off my son financially and otherwise. There's nothing to be jealous of.
Okay, well, of course you'd say that. Well, and provide an example, please.
Yeah, provide your incredible examples. She's gonna be like, he makes more money than her.
So, huh. Okay.

Well, you kind of caught it a little bit in the post.

My son's apartment.

Okay.

But it sounds like she lives there.

Right.

And they're getting married.

So it's their home.

Someone responds to OP.

There it is.

That jealousy.

Next comment. And yet you provide no examples of her leeching off him financially.
Seems like jealousy to me. We have a couple more comments from OP.
The least she could do is actually help him rather than just sitting there and watching. In regards to the cooking.
So what? There's so much you don't see. Are you there every day? And maybe he just loves to cook and he wants to do that.
Is that forbidden for a man to do? If he's happy and he's doing what he wants to be doing, like, he's fine. He's okay.
I'm sure she does stuff. I'm sure whatever they worked out is working for them.
They clearly happy with each other yeah he's an adult yeah making his own choices there it is yeah let your let him fly out of the nest not this helicopter buzzing around all the time no it's quite strange so OP does respond to that comment and yet you provide no examples of her leeching off of him financially

Seems like jealousy to me and opie goes he makes over 200k a year

And is also studying at a top 10 business school in the country

She doesn't come close to that objectively

She's living in his apartment and he's covering all of their expenses

That is leeching next thing. You know, she's pregnant and he's tied to her for 18 years.
He's marrying her. So this runs deeper.
This is she just doesn't like her. No one's going to be good enough for her baby boy, though.
Yeah. By the sounds of this.
No one. This is toxic boy mom to a T.
And there's so much of this energy out there. It's insanity to me.
I just saw a video of some mom who already had a daughter. Her daughter was her firstborn.
And then she had a little boy after. And she made this whole long video being like, I didn't know love until I had my little boy and like i loved my daughter but like having a son is so different and so big god damn well they think they're like i raised him to be so great and so wonderful and so successful and now you get to reap the benefits of that is that what it is like i yeah yeah like what should you be reaping the benefits of that that it's all like i'm i i feel like for this story especially that's what it is she's raised the successful man and yet she gets nothing from it all this, this other girl does.
Gross.

Yeah, I mean, why can't the happiness of him being successful,

having a happy relationship, living his life be enough?

Yeah, like job well done.

You know, like a lot of people are just getting your kids to the age of 18

and not having them, you know, whatever.

Like having them get there successfully. That's a feat in itself.
Yeah, absolutely. That's scary.
And I think like too, not everything is like, not every relationship has to be 50-50, a financial split. Like she could provide so much emotional support and emotional labor and lighten his load in so many other ways.
And you also just saw a blip of their life. And maybe he wanted to cook dinner because you guys were in town and he wanted to make that special meal for his parents.
But, you know, 99% of the time, she's the one cooking. Like you saw a blip.
And based on you and your attitude, I doubt you're that close with your son and you. He shares the the intimate details of his life he probably doesn't want to because of how he'll be judged by you yeah like him going silent when she said that that feels like a response to where he knows he just can't engage with her when she gets like this and she's done it before it's easier to just move on and yeah i could absolutely see being like oh it's my parents coming into town i'll handle dinner tonight like it's my family i'll make them yeah like that's a normal it's like one dinner that she's mentioning she's literally giving the example of one dinner i mean regardless even if we could prove right now that she never cooks and doesn't help it's still his choice yeah he's making this choice to be with this person to the point where he's proposed let them live yeah if he were writing in and saying hey I'm doing all the cooking and I'm making all the money and she doesn't do anything I'm very dissatisfied we'd be like okay set some boundaries that's not what happens that's not what's happening here

no that's far from what's happening here no leave this toxic boy mom energy in 2024 let your kids be happy and love who they want to love yeah love is love i think this is the time in the show where we have... You do a silly song.
A coin flip. Ooh.
We're gonna take the pressure off the people. I think I've made it unfair on a lot of you.
Wow. Where I have had...
I've put you in precarious positions, making very tough choices. Specifically me.
And then the people get mad at the one that you picked. So our new segment here is leave it to the coin.
I give the coin two choices and we take it from there. Wow.
However, however, especially if there's two guests on the sofa, you can put your opinions together. And if you agree to veto and go against the coin, you can.
So you do have veto power. We'd have to feel very strongly, I'd imagine.
And you both, it has to be, um, what's that big word? Unanimous. I've lost all my confidence after the last episode.

The coin flip did save Justin on the last one.

That's why I pulled it out.

That's the reason it exists.

Get the coin ready.

Oh, you tossed your phone behind the couch.

It's time for Silly Songs with Larry.

Is that a VeggieTales thing?

You are my cheeseburger, my tasty cheeseburger. I cheeseburger I'll wait for you I'll wait for you You're gonna give us a copyright strike It's so good Thank you so much.
Wow, that's really nice Tap to flip Okay This will be heads Am I the asshole For not having dinner ready when my fiance gets home from work? Or, tails, am I the asshole for yelling at my fiance to stop talking so much? Give it to the coin. Okay, which would you have picked? The second one.
Let's see what the coin is. This is why I love the coin.
We're not coming to a decision. I'll tell you right now.
You would have picked the first one. Have dinner ready.
I'm just too scared to pick now. You guys, don't give Justin some.
He picks good most of the time. I've gotten yelled at too.
So maybe not. The coin.
Give it to the coin. That's what it's here for.
Give it to the coin. Hey.
The best part is when you do this on stage. I do.
Because you get the crowd's reaction and they pick so well. That happened at the LA show.
I picked the wrong one. And then I was like, oh.
Then the other one. Never mind.
I'll just leave. I know.
It's so good. Okay it's so good Okay we ready The coin is flipping Oh wow I love that you're showing it so we can't be accused of cheating It is tails Option number two Can't be mad at us Can't be mad The other one will be going to Patreon though don't worry So again titled Am I the asshole for yelling at my fiance to stop talking so much? I'm male 24 and my fiance is female 25.
We've been together since we were 16 and 17 and everything was perfect. Recently, however, she's taken the habit of literally nonstop talking 24 seven, just talking and talking and talking.
And I never said anything in the beginning. At first, I used to actually listen and talk about whatever she was talking about with her, but after a few months, I just started ignoring her, but she never took the hint.
I'm an introvert and sometimes I just want to sit in silence and peace and not have to listen to a literal radio Every single hour i'm with her So today I snapped I didn't even realize what I had done until it was already done I yelled at her to please stop talking so much and close her mouth for just a minute So I can have some peace. She looked shocked and just stared back at me and called me a jerk and a terrible person.
She made me leave the house and won't answer any of my calls or texts. I know I was a bit harsh, but I think she overreacted.
She must have known on some level she was being super annoying.

Am I the asshole?

Folks, it's a tough day for yappers.

She just wanted to yap.

100% you're the asshole.

Are you kidding me?

Did you ever make an attempt to say,

hey, I'm working on this or I'm doing this.

There's got to be a way to approach it. That's not, hey, shut your mouth just for one second so I can have a break.
I mean, did it not occur to you that that would make you an asshole? I'm wondering if she recently got an ADHD medication or something. This happened to me.
You would yap 24-7? Yeah, when I was taking Vyvanse, I 24 7 yeah when i was like taking vivence i was yapping just random things too yeah but then i would like i would delegate i would find different friends to yap to at different intervals of the day at least you're okay you were a little self-aware i was respectful with my app and as well as strategic which you sometimes have to be but yeah no like saying, I mean, this is poor communication if it has to get to a point where you're exploding on someone instead of, you know, having a moment of first like, hey, you've been a little more chatty lately. What's going on? Is there something going on? Or like, hey, I'm working right now.
Sorry. We can talk about this later.
My beloved, let's chat later. Yeah.
XX. I mean, you can say chat later or like, I guess like I'm just kind of confused how they've gotten this far.
Like she loves to yap so much so that he describes her as a 24-7 talk radio. It is funny.
Like the way he described her, I'm like, do you even like your fiance? Yeah, but they've known each other since they were 17 and 16, and now all of a sudden, she's yapping too much? Yeah, I mean, that's eight years. To say, I used to actually listen and talk about whatever she was talking about, but after a few months, how many years have you been tuning her out?

Right.

Do you even like her?

Yeah.

Why are you getting engaged to someone

you have so much disdain for?

Maybe because they've been together for so long.

Sunk in cost fallacy.

Leave it in 2024.

The two methods he described are ignoring her, not good, and at her not good surely there's another way like yapping with her maybe like you have to her about it you have to her about the problem or just like i mean have you communicated hey like i would you know i want some quiet time like justin's very good when he needs like a little break he'll be like i would love to play some VR later and it's like yeah yeah you should go get in the game go like all he had to do is like babe I love you but I'm a little more introverted I just need you know I need to recharge my social battery right I'm like that I need I need alone time real bad I'm like a whoo yeah the socialization has really taken its toll on me. I need some moments alone.
But if I'm with friends on like a trip or dating someone or whatever, like they all know that about me. And if I go to my room for a couple hours, it's like, no one takes that personally.
I talk to them about it. I'm like, not about you, not about anybody.
I'm just going to take some time. I'm just chilling on my phone.
I'm just chilling. And that's normal communication.
Yeah. Even with someone you haven't been dating for a mystery amount of time.
Yeah. Mystery amount of time.
I'm curious if there's any comments from OP, but first and foremost, the top comment. Top comment? You're the asshole.
If something is bothering you, it's your responsibility to communicate that in a healthy manner to your partner. She isn't a mind reader and has no way of knowing what's bothering you if you don't say anything about it.
Yelling as a first form of expressing discomfort is not the answer. And that's what I would like to know.
Has there been conversations and she continues to yap 24-7? It doesn't seem like it. No.
And that would really hurt my feelings too, like to be told. And it would affect sort of the way I communicate with them in the future.
I'd be like, oh, they don't like when I talk. Yeah.
Like that sucks. Am I talking too much? Yeah.
Like, am I crossing that line? I don't know because I'll just find out when he blows up at me next time. Right.
How weird. I really liked this comment from someone.
Exactly. My husband and I both get in a chatterbox modes and if one or the other isn't feeling it, we just go, Hey, I love you.
I appreciate you, but can we have a little quiet time? We can talk about this later. And it's literally never been a problem.
Just, yep, do you want quiet time alone? Or is it okay if we just veg on the couch together? Yeah. Someone replies, it really is that simple.
It is. Or it could even be funny.
If you're like, babe, you've been talking for quite some time now. It's just like not that.
Take a rest. Bring your vocal cords.
No, babe are gonna get nodes i'm worried about you not the nodes so someone goes you're the asshole is this how you plan to treat her for the rest of your life call it off for her sake op responds nah i know what i did was wrong i should have told her sooner without yelling or making her feel that way i guess it's a good lesson for me to learn this early on mysteriously early on i guess i know someone someone does go this early on you've been together for like eight years what the fuck do you mean i mean i will say it's not like he did the worst thing in the world. I think it's like poor communication and rude.
I think that like it's not they need to break up. I think they could probably get past it.
If it becomes a pattern. Yeah.
Then yes. I mean, if this were to happen again, then come on, grow up.
Well, I did misread, but they have been together since they were 16 or 17 so now my question is how did you go eight years without saying something nobody didn't he say that she never yapped the way she she's only just recently become a yapper god see this is why you've almost read 100 books this year thank you so much just it's in there 94 guys recently however she's taken the habit of literally non-stop talking recently so then i would like be like what's changed yeah like recently like the adderall medication potentially or or like honestly is this more about him like is he just disengaged now and then she feels the need to like a cop like compensate for it i do remember

like and this is maybe now like because of the story and like hindsight i remember like i had an ex in canada and i would have to fly to like the nearest airport which was like edmonton or calgary depending on like flights and cost and then he would pick me up and we'd have like a really long drive. Like I'm just Googling like the drive time.
So it was, it's about like three hours. So every time like I would be in the car and like we hadn't seen each other in person because we were doing long distance and I would be in the car.
And like, I remember thinking, is this like, is this what the the relationship is like do people do is it normal to run out of things to talk about with your partner that you haven't even seen and I felt like I was always the one like engaging the conversation like yeah there was no conversation unless I was the one prompting or asking questions and I remember in the car distinctly thinking that, and I'm like, is this normal? Is this like comfortability in silence? Or do we just genuinely like not have anything to talk about? Yeah. Sorry.
I think the fact that you were thinking that means there's not the comfortability in silence. Because otherwise you would you would know It's like oh it's so nice That we can just be in silence right now I know And it's fine But I am a little bit of an overthinker So and like Being not as like I was you know 20 21 22 22 I think at the oldest So I'm like I was in a different You know Maturity And I was a lot more inexperienced And so it was like huh and so maybe she's there maybe she feels this need to compensate and like continuously engage him because he's not engaged he's not participating like he was or you know like what's changed i also feel like if you're chatting more that usually means you're like happier or like like it's kind of a nice thing.
It's nice that she's so chatty. It's nice that you've known her since she was 16 and she still has so much to say to you.
Like, I don't like I think those are nice. I understand getting annoyed by it, but I just feel like his reaction is so negative when there are positives to this.
One other thing is what if she's always been the same way and he's just

tuning out and getting annoyed by anything? So it's like nothing's changed, but you are just not interested in her anymore. I wonder if it's that or this hypothesis.
The comment we read from OP is the only response we have.

However, based on their ages,

male 24, female 25, and the word fiancé, I wonder if this is a recent engagement. And the thing that she is talking about 24-7 and trying to engage him about is wedding planning.
Your genius mind, Morgan. I'm like, I'm wondering, he's like, no, because you brought, I didn't realize like this is a recent thing.
I thought this was a whole eight year thing and I'm a little, you know, don't yell at me. But I'm like, okay, recently, what's changed recently? Fiance, is the engagement new? Yeah.
No shit, she's going to talk about an engagement. She's excited and there's a lot that goes into wedding planning like is that what this is yeah and i wonder like if she would say she's talking more like that would be so interesting to hear what she thinks like if she were to be like no actually this is how i've always been or if she were to be like yeah we just like exciting things are coming up i want to talk to him more i want to connect before this big moment i don't know i wonder i always want the other person's side so bad i really want the other side on this one i i feel like there's a lot of context missing but like don't don't get married to people you don't even like like i wonder if it is a recent discovery and i'm uh re-watching how i met your mother right now and the episode i just saw is one where they're pointing out each other's like icks and they don't describe them as icks but like lily is a really loud chewer and ted noticed and then he broke that facade for marshall and so marshall starts noticing and then ted's is like ted is always like correcting people and pointing out facts about what they're saying and you know there's all of these things that the glass shatters and they start realizing all these icks about each other and that could be something too where he's just now realizing damn she talks a lot right it's like fuck i like your theory though about it being about the wedding because he knows he would sound like an asshole if he said she's been talking so much about our wedding or like so much about she's been trying to talk to me about wedding planning so much.
Yeah. Like I could so feasibly see someone leave that part out.
For sure, because so many Reddit stories are written self-serving. Yeah.
They're obviously going to. People asking if they're the asshole are going to try to portray themselves as not the asshole They know what they're doing They fully know Except some doubt I don't think the mom knew She had no clue What mom? The mom with the girl sitting on the lap Oh And on the counter Come on She was just completely No she called that girl a leech.
No, she's just delusional. She called her a leech.
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Okay, this next one.

I am enraged over this one. Oh, good.
It is seven hours old, coming from Relationship Advice, titled,

This weekend, I, 29 female, got very drunk and told my boyfriend's 35 male friend's wife that

he is cheating on her. I regret this a lot and I created a big mess for everyone involved and I'm looking for any advice on how to potentially try to salvage these relationships.
Long title, right? Yes. Our OP, our writer is dating a guy who's 35 male.
He has some friends, friends cheating on his wife. OP told the wife, hey, your husband's cheating on you.
Okay. Yeah.
And I would too. Sorry, let's get the context.
My boyfriend and I have been together for about a year and a half, and he recently bought a ring, but hasn't proposed. I think that might be now out of the window, because this weekend I got very drunk, and stupidly and carelessly, and I cannot believe I did this, said to the friend's wife that the friend isn't faithful to her.
Ugh. This man does cheat on his wife constantly, as does his other friend who was there with us that night with his pregnant wife.
I have a lot of issues surrounding all of this. I've talked to my boyfriend about how much it bothers me a ton, and he has basically said that these are his long-term friends and that their actions aren't his responsibility or his fault.
I do really trust my boyfriend, and I love him so much, but I have serious trauma about married men being unfaithful because my boyfriend prior to this was secretly married, and it really messed me up. I've projected that resentment and anxiety onto his friends, and I've felt it inside, but I've've kept it in up until Saturday when I made the comment to his wife while wasted.
It caused a fight between them. My boyfriend and I went home and I texted the wife the next day to apologize.
And I also said that I was projecting things when I told her about the cheating. My boyfriend asked me to cover it up, and I did.
Because I wanted to try to somehow preserve the relationship between my boyfriend and I, and not jeopardize the friend's marriage, even though it gutted me to do so on a lot of levels. I know my feelings of anger about the cheating friends are valid, but it absolutely wasn't my place to say anything.
I'm looking into therapy to handle my anger on infidelity, and I'm considering seeking treatment for alcohol too, because I think I've been using that to cope with the painful things I still have that are left over from my last relationship. But I'm freaking out, because now I have created this giant mess, both for my boyfriend, his friend, wife, and for the relationship between my boyfriend and I.
I damaged his trust a ton, and I now look like a liar and manipulator. I am reeling and incredibly embarrassed and sad and really looking for any advice people might have about how I should approach things with my boyfriend and if there's

anything else that people could think I could try to do to make up for my mistake. Thank you in advance for any thoughts you might have.
I'm really struggling and feel awful. I'm sorry.
What? Why? Why does she she's internalized this as her problem so much when it's every other person's problem. What? Like, I can't believe I caused this.
He caused it. All of them caused it.
Also, what now? Like his closest friends are going to think you're like all the wives are going to think you're an evil liar. And this is supposed to be your circle for the next how many? This is in no way her fault.
And in fact, like I understand feeling like it's not your place to tell someone that their husband is cheating on them. I understand feeling bad about the way that it was said and the fact that you're the one saying it.
But she deserves to know. Absolutely.
Again, with this one, I will say that I think you did yourself a favor. Yes.
Because as great as a relationship can be, the context of that relationship is very important. And a lot of that context is who someone surrounds themselves with and the environment that you guys are in.
It's just as important as timing. And we always say relationships are timing but in this sense yeah you're drunk whatever but i think you made the decision to do this because that's who you are and you would not survive long term in this environment that surrounds your relationship oh it's so unhealthy because it's eating you alive.
It hits close to home because it's hitting trauma that you've already been through. And so I think you made a great decision, drunk or not, to tell them and fix all this bullshit.
Let these two women actually know what's happening in their lives so they can make a decision for themselves. Oh, the pregnant wife.
And yeah, for these guys, you're the biggest enemy, whatever, because you exposed the secret. Blow it up.
But you did technically what is just and what is right. And I think you moving on from this whole situation is going to be very freeing for you.
Yeah. So yeah, it's going to suck.
Like we talked about earlier, moving on from something that you viewed as this is my forever. This is perfect.
And I think the more you distance from it and the further you get away from it, you'll realize how imperfect it was because as great as this can be, if everything else around it is just a shit firestorm, it's not as great as it appears. No.
And I feel like even if your relationship was great, it's perfect. Your boyfriend still is friends with multiple people, besties that are cheaters.
And he's okay covering up for them. And getting you to cover you to cover up for them to make you look like a liar to make you look like a manipulator he's okay with that he's gonna be okay with cheating it's just a matter of time yeah this is a boys toxic little boys club that are covering up for each other and he's probably got that same energy that's why he's so comfortable just yeah like how

does she know about it because he told her because he's comfortable telling her because he doesn't see it as like this huge thing yeah like what you are who you're friends with to a certain degree he's proving he's okay with this behavior and they're making her text the wife to cover it up god hell no be a girl's girl was this the ideal setting to tell her no probably not being drunk and then like especially if she was like really drunk and the wife is sober to like hear that it's like okay but they do need to know there's not really an ideal there's not really an ideal setting no and she's been in

something similar so she's acting off of like i wanted to i wish someone had told me yeah in that situation that that was happening and also like you're not gonna ever trust this guy going off on a guy's trip with his friends imagine sending this guy off to his bachelor party with these two fuckhead no right absolutely not no this is he i would bet so much that he's a cheater too oh yeah and if he's not an excuse like a bachelor trip or someone else's bachelor trip or yeah i mean the guys went to cancun and like it's it's when not they do it and they're probably enablers they're all enablers to each other that is like oh that's such a fear dating someone whose friends are enablers of like poor behavior that's yeah that's because sometimes people already like have a weak will it's like all they need is a little bit of a push and yeah then they're doing it peer pressure gets the best of us, but this is not what that is. Like, this is like,

this is an orchestrated group of dudes who are just not good people.

Yeah, he's like,

oh, babe, I know they're awful.

I hate that they're doing that.

It's so bad.

But like, we should cover this up though.

To cheat?

That's, yeah.

And it's like,

is your relationship even worth saving

if this is the energy you get?

Like you said,

like, it's just not,

yeah.

Well, and regardless if he's actually cheated or not,

you're not going to a hotel this weekend i told the wife i got a work trip and he should be disgusted by that. He should lose respect for that.
Right. Right.
So it gets to a place where think of like all of us, think of your closest friends. Yeah.
If someone did something like this, you know, it's not like if they cheat once and it's a big mistake, it's like, you're there for your friend. condone it you're not there being like you were so great you did everything perfectly it's no it's like you fucked up but i'll be here for you we've been friends forever it's the pattern right and it's the continued pattern of supporting this and hiding it and then she's sitting there looking at these other women across the table and they're probably smiling having great time and excited about their lives and she's like dude i've i just went through this shit so especially that yeah it was a matter of time before you would have had to either just leave which i hope if you were going to just leave you would have have told them, right? Because screw it.
But it was a matter of time before this happened. So it's not like you made this big mistake.
It was inevitable. No.
And I get these guys are probably, you know, more of the exception and not the rule. Not every guy group is doing this, but I think carrying like good energy forward and like being a girl's girl, like does it suck to get that message on Instagram? Hey, girl.
Yes. The pit that goes to your stomach, especially when it's some random person.
Like I've gotten those and just like, oh, and it's crazy because it's like he was out of my sight for an hour. did he find the time it's it's just it's nuts but like people will go to lengths and so I think going forward like never feel shame in like being a girl's girl or you know telling the truth like I think there's something to be said about having good integrity yeah and like carrying that forward like if you become a liar you already know how bad you look do you want to feel that way going forward do you want to have that on your conscience i just fear that they'll be able to lie their way out of it so easily now that they've already gotten her to like look crazy and yeah and be like i made it up you just gotta go then you do but i think you still you tell them and you say hey this is what i know these are the details i know yeah i'm not lying to you you know are these guys now going to cover their tracks better yeah unfortunately yes but facades slip and cracks will form and they will find out the truth eventually especially god, God, the wife that's pregnant.
What if she catches something? And then like the baby, like that's- Oh my God. Yeah.
Well, and something that shows you that your relationship is not perfect and great is the fact that you got pushed down into a corner so hard that you literally asked in this, how can I start making this up to him? You have nothing to make up for. The fact that she feels so crazy and that she's like so in her head now, clearly that is his ability at gaslighting her and making her feel insane that this is again an indicator of things not being good moving forward.
And yeah, you probably do feel a little bit more sensitive about this than other people, but you're not projecting onto these people in an unhealthy way that's not fair to them. You're reacting how a person would and saying, hey, this isn't cool.
This isn't a right way to treat people. And it bothers me as a normal human being.
It needed to be said. I do not hold that against her at all.
Top comment on this one. Your boyfriend has two close friends cheating on their wives, and he actively helps them conceal infidelity.
This is not the mark of a trustworthy person. Sure, he may not be lying to you right now about this, but you know he is in principle okay with lying to you.
The next comment down, thank you. A man that was possibly going to propose, which leads to marriage, surrounding himself with unfaithful married men, that alone would scare me and make me rethink being with him.
Who knows what their guys' nights look like.

Exactly.

Makes me like gag thinking about the conversations they're having.

That's what I'm saying.

Sad thing is, I think we all know what their guys' nights are like.

Gross.

Next comment down.

Yep.

But let him tell it.

He was the only one who behaved and was a good boy. Sure.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with the girlfriend of someone I know. She said she didn't like her boyfriend's friends because they both cheated and had encouraged her boyfriend to cheat on her too.
I don't know if he cheats to the extent the friends do, but I know he talks to his ex behind her back. Friends of a feather.
Yeah. And that was like, I think that was one of the lamest excuses I got from an ex that cheated on me.
Well, you know, all my friends were pressuring me and they didn't like that I had a girlfriend because you took time away from hanging out with them.

And so they, you know, they really encouraged me to cheat.

It was their fault.

They made me do it.

Okay.

So you're weak as fuck.

You're weak.

You're weak-willed.

Literally.

And then, oh my God. Embarrassing.

This is probably the worst one.

And I didn't say anything

because they broke up shortly after.

And she went on, like she played D1 hockey and just like she crushed it absolutely crushed it but there was this one girl who her best friend had a thing for her boyfriend and ended up having a threesome with her best friend's boyfriend and another like one of the guys. She should go to jail.
She should be arrested. Like that's your best friend.
Oh my god I can't imagine but that's like a jealousy thing too. That's an insecurity jealousy thing.
Like you you clearly are jealous of your friends. That's why you're doing this.
It's just wild to me Okay, let's see if there's any comments from op Please still be there Oh We do have some comments Okay Okay, we have a lot of comments. Oh good.
Did anyone get through to her? I will post the link for you all to do a little creeping yourself. But let me see if we have any progress.
So one of the first comments, that's the thing. He is friends with them, but not to the same level, I guess, as with the guys.
I feel the same way about my friends. None of them would do this as far as I know.
And it would be hard for me to continue to be friends with them. It gives me a ton of anxiety because I do believe birds of a feather and all that.

But I love my boyfriend so much and truly don't believe he would do the same.

It just makes me feel nauseous and literally sick when I'm around them

because I know what they're doing.

Sorry, no one thinks their boyfriend would do the same.

No one's like, I think that this guy that I'm starting to see is really a cheater.

I don't like cheating, but he probably is.

No one's thinking that.

But yeah, if... No one's like, I think that this guy that I'm starting to see is really a cheater.
I don't like cheating, but he probably is.

No one's thinking that.

But yeah, if my friend did this one time, like you said, I'd be like, oh, you fucked up.

I feel bad.

But if they were serially doing this, that's just not the kind of person I would be friends with.

No.

But none of my friends would do that.

So.

No.

That's why I'm friends with them.

Exactly.

Those are good people. Good people.
You surround yourself with good people, as everyone should. Just a lot of comments here, like trying to really rationalize this.
I feel like my boyfriend is going to side with them, to be honest, but I'm not sure. It's really painful.
I'm scared of losing him, but maybe that is the right thing. The wives are really nice and it is just so upsetting to me and clearly I can't handle it It's been hard for me to not share but I felt like it's not my place But I don't think I can really live with myself keeping a secret which enables it I feel like the scapegoat now Because because you are you are that's what that means We are getting through we are getting through.
Oh good op says you're right I feel like I handled it in a weak and pretty cowardly way because I was scared of hurting my boyfriend and his relationship But it didn't feel ethically right I still feel like garbage about it. I'm reconsidering if I should move forward at all with the relationship and thank you to everyone who has helped me feel a little better because his friends are all saying how I'm crazy and that we should break up.
And I feel like he's not seeing it from the ethical point of view. So I'm isolated and this helps me get a different perspective.
Good. You're not losing much.
Thank you, Reddit. we need a word for when like you think you've self-sabotaged but actually you're better off because of it what is that word i have a word with my friend for it but it's because of it we call it getting spectrumed but it's because i got scammed but then the deal i got ended up being better with with the internet the spectrum oh i was curious if that's what you that's spectrum man they can rob you the amount of service outage service service what is that i know they're bad but your service has been interrupted service outage there you go oh my god my brain just short-circuited it's like you should not pay us and the fucking upload speed sucks.
Yeah. That's why you go AT&T.
AT&T Fiber. If you have that in your area,

get it it's a whole thing yeah but there needs to be another word that yeah what is that like it's not self it's the opposite of self-sabotage because it's like yourself but accidentally right friends i know you're crafty come up with or with or tell us. Come up with a word.
I don't think there is one. We're going to create one.
We are going to create one. It's leveling up.
It's like you did the right thing. It felt sabotage at first, but it's self.
And we're going to use it so much. It's going to get added to the dictionary in 2025.
Whoa. Let's do that.
Officially. That would be a good goal for us all here.
Add a word to the dictionary. Let's all come up with a word for the dictionary.
You made a mistake, but now your life is so much better than God I made that mistake. What is that? Failing up words.
Basically. Basically.
I'm sure that definition is in the urban dictionary for something. We have to find it.
It's getting spectrumed as well. There is a comment here that does really concern me.
The wife has allegedly told her husband that she doesn't want him hanging out with me. Oh, my God.
I knew this would happen. So it's like I'm either isolating and holding the bag or I tell the truth.
Tell the truth. Tell the truth.
Tell the truth. Yeah.
Blow it up as you walk out. Come on.
Say everything. Do like a little voice note.
Get a like voice recording of your next fight with your boyfriend about it and then get your proof and then send it. Just reveal all as you exit.
A little tell all book that she sends off to everybody. She should.
And I think she will because one of the most recent comments, I'm having a really hard time and appreciate that people are telling me to go back to the wife and tell her the truth. I'm having trouble living with myself and feel like it's not fair to me to have to take the blame and be thrown under the bus.
Even though I really should have handled it differently, I can't handle carrying the weight of continuing to hurt someone especially by lying i think it's gonna come out loving that i think it's gonna come out i'm going up there's so many comments so you guys will have a good time if you like checking out the posts there'll probably be a lot more even by the time this comes out true i know there probably will because op is so active in this post, this is so fresh. But lots of comments.
I'm trying to see if we leave off on a like, yeah, we're breaking up. I don't know how they could stay together if his friend group now hates her and thinks she's crazy.
And they're fighting over this. And now she doesn't trust him.
And the internet's telling. I just feel like there are so many elements from actually like his side and her side of potentially breaking up now which him breaking up with her would also be getting spectrumed yeah it absolutely would and a lot of people are kind of questioning like well how did you hurt your boyfriend and op does elaborate that like he told her this info because she said i'll never say anything don't have client privilege.
Like this is, you're not a lawyer. You're not a doctor.
Like you don't have to abide by like that confidentiality if it's something serious and like goes against your morals and is objectively wrong. So yeah, you might have broke his trust,

but again, like, you might be leveling up

by this whole thing happening, but...

You're breaking his trust.

That's a funny statement.

That's what, like, OP is saying here.

By revealing all of the lying going on.

Yeah.

I broke his confidence.

Yeah, she's the villain out of all of these people.

Yeah. I know.
It's killing me. I feel like I can't live with myself without coming clean.
No, he told me not to tell anyone and I said it anyways, which I feel really bad about. I think you're right, Justin, though.
Like this is something she wanted to do. And like, yeah, she was drunk, but like she was probably going to at some point either way.
Yeah. Because it's.
Yeah. Yeah.
It would have eaten at her. Knowing her, her history, the type of person.
As we do. She's with so many comments.
We know her so well. We know her inside thoughts.
Yeah. I mean, there's a lot here to unpack.
And like, yeah. I think it will come out.
But as of right now, they are not broken up. Feeling bad about breaking his trust.
Wasn't my place. Inhibitions were down because of alcohol.
It was impulsive. Even though I know my feelings were real, I feel bad about how I handled it.
You're overthinking that. Just come on now.
No. I think before 2025, we'll get an update that they've broken up.
And I will be checking. I will be looking into it, looking into this.
Fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed.

Okay.

On to the next one.

Onward.

Onward.

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Okay. So we're going to rapid fire these last two.
Because I'm like, I can't, I feel like I can't leave them behind. I can't leave them behind in 2024.
In 2024. I can't.
So the first one, coming from our very own Two Outtakes subreddit, six days old, titled, Boyfriend says I'm taking his joy away after I told him to stop peeing in the shower. Joy.
Okay, king. Okay.
A couple of months ago, I, 34 female, started noticing a foul urine scent in the washroom. over time, I noticed it smelled the strongest after my partner, 33 male, showered.
I asked him if he has been peeing in the shower, to which he slyly admitted. I told him I can smell it and asked him to stop.
The toilet is right beside the shower. However, time goes by, and I've had to continuously tell him to stop peeing in the shower because I can smell it every time he does.
And I think it's so gross. He eventually confesses that he has always peed in the shower, that he gets so relaxed and just lets it go.
And questions why only now I've started to smell it. We speculate it's because I got a new shower curtain of a different material than we previously had, and it retains the urine smell.
Why is it on the curtain? The curtain now... Yeah, can't you just aim for the drink? You would think.
The curtain now gets washed every time I smell urine. Anyways, he says I'm taking his joy away of relaxing and peeing in the shower and suggested we go back to the old shower curtain.
I told him to pee before he showers or hold it until he's done and use the toilet. Am I the asshole? Okay, sometimes growing up isn't fun.
Sometimes when you grow up, things have to change that maybe you wish you could still eat Sundays at 2 a.m. every night.
And that would be lovely. But you get headaches when you're an adult when you do that.
And there comes a point in our lives when we have to change.

I think a good word more would be compromise because this feels more like a compromise to make your partner happy on something that's really not that big of a deal. Because I would say probably in the upper 90 percentile of adults pee in the shower.
And think yeah if you there you know i i have some tips i would give tips i think you need to pee at least in the first 25 to 30 percent of your shower yes because then it subsequently gets you know it goes right down the drain with everything else and anything left yeah unless his joy i the joy part is weird like you're peeing get over it a hot shower i love a hot shower okay the joy from the hot shower is not me peeing in the shower i don't know maybe that's just his thing but i just think are you the curtain and come on i don't think he has to never again pee in the shower i think you know what every once in a while but if you're not if you're doing it in such a way like clearly he's not cleaning up after himself ever there's no like you know spraying spraying some cleaning stuff around the shower maybe he needs to be in charge of cleaning the shower and do it really frequently, but it can't go on like this. There can't be a constant piss smell in your lovely shower.
So I'm wondering if they have a fabric shower curtain. Like, you know, there's usually for most people, two sides.
There's the plastic liner and then the fabric side that's more decorative. I have been to some places, a hotel, oddly, which that doesn't seem right, where it was only fabric.
And they put it on the inside. And I'm like, it gets wet.
It is weird. You're going to get mold and mildew.
I'm confused about the shower curtain and why it's retaining so much scent. But also, why isn't he just aiming for the drain? Yeah drain yeah yeah i don't think it's normal for the pee smell to last no no my guy seems dehydrated okay if it's that smelly you're dehydrated come on now drink some water everyone listening drink some water right now i guarantee you most of us need it.
I know. Especially that guy.

I definitely do.

That's coming out straight yellow.

I will say, and I'm trying to fact check myself right now.

This is something I heard recently and I will talk about it more on one of our early episodes next year.

But we met someone at a live show who we essentially like saved her baby because of talking about

peeing on the podcast.

Oh my God.

Um,

you know, But we met someone at a live show who we essentially like saved her baby because of talking about peeing on the podcast. Oh, my God.
Absolutely incredible story. And those that were at our Clearwater live show heard it in person.
But we'll get there. But I also heard at one of those shows that peeing in the shower is bad for your pelvic floor.
It can actually hurt your pelvic floor to pee, which we talked about that on the podcast. You shouldn't push your pee.
You should relax and just let it come. So I googled, and one of the responses from the conservation, and it talks about, similar to hearing the effects of running water, the authors of the study suggest being in warm water is calming for the body and activates the parasitic nervous system.
The activation can result in the relaxation of the bladder and possibly the pelvic floor muscles, bringing the urge to pee. However, so that one says nothing about damaging.
However, there is one coming from the Orchard Clinic that says, while it may feel efficient, this habit can trigger your brain to associate the sound of running water with the urge to urinate, leading to awkward moments of urgency at the wrong time. On top of that, standing in the shower prevents your pelvic floor muscles from fully relaxing, which could weaken them over time.
So mixed info here. I personally would not love for someone to be peeing in my shower.
Are you a shower peer? I have a handful of times in my life. Only a handful? It's not something I regularly participate in, but I have like, I have a lot of like bacteria, like dirt type things like that I get really freaked out about.
So it could be just coming from that place. Like I will wash my hands so many times in the day before doing anything else like yeah i just it it would bother me get that but i also understand like that it's sort of it's an easy area to clean you just have to be cleaning it and maybe that's the thing maybe he needs to take if they have a handheld shower head and like do a courtesy or one of those after shower like cleaning sprays yeah those are good yeah yeah there's one what's the brand we really like from we get it at target it's like a healthy brand it's whatever their main house brand is it's a method no it's like non-toxic um it's the brand ever spring and they actually have like a daily shower cleaner spray you just spray it on it's it's great it helps prevent grime and build up it's really good and they have an amazing all-purpose cleaner it smells incredible they have all sorts yeah and they're like non-toxic cruelty free like really i'm vibing with the brand yeah vibing that's amazing that's lovely i mean i close the lid to the toilet before i flush every time like i'm i don't like you're tidy yeah i just don't is your toothbrush exposed no i keep like a sanitizer pot on it you're really good you're really good we we do need to be better about our toothbrushes just chill out.
And I know there's poop particles floating around. I just get freaked out in my head about that kind of thing.
No, I talk about it to Justin all the time. She reminds me of it every day.
Yeah. Yeah.
You can like call to stop talking about the poop particles, Morgan. I know.
I'm still alive. I don't get cavities and something's working.
I know. Maybe it's that E.
coli on your toothbrush. Keep it rolling.
So top comment on this. There's no way simply peeing in a running shower is making the bathroom stink.
His piss is somewhere else. Get a black light.
Genius. Genius.
They're like, there's a third secret third answer here. His joy is just sideways sideways straight at the curtain.
His joy is actually playing a game with it where he goes all over the place. Oh, can you imagine if they got a blacklight and it's like, I don't know, some crazy word spelled out or his name just on the curtain.
Just like this dude's like silly little face. Oh my God.
Little screechy owl. If I could give you a little award right now.
that's their name i get it i would i would do i have any i don't have any free awards i'm so sorry i'd give you one no so smart oh it's so good next comment down sounds like he actively aims for the shower curtain tell him there's a difference between peeing in the shower and peeing on the shower. Mm-hmm.
Right? If I, as a woman, can aim and hit the drain, so can he with his saber. I am curious how they aim.
Okay, saber mention. I'm curious.
Oh, go girl. I do want to try one of those.
I have one. Did you get it for campaign? I did because, well, also doomsday prepping because every few months I'm like, oh my God, I need to buy everything that you could possibly need if I had to survive in the wild.
Do you have those meal kits? I do, in fact. Have you tried them? Nope.
I just keep them in the garage. Okay.
We should try them before because they expire, don't they? Yeah. And my water is going to expire soon.
My five-year water supply. Okay.
Hey, can we... Sorry.
No, can us three band together and say if anything goes down? Oh, yeah. I for sure want to doomsday with you.
We have the location. Okay, perfect.
We will send you the location. You bring your supplies.
We'll provide the location. We have a clean water source.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

We will.

We're doing it.

Okay.

And I know how to farm.

Oh my God, that's perfect.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have so much gear.

I have so much gear.

Okay, you got the gear.

Good.

My thing is the gas.

Like how do we get from here to our location?

So one thing we would have to start storing is a gas tank.

I also have an electric scooter.

Oh,

is it solar powered?

So we get 30 miles.

I have like a big,

it'll take us three years.

Power thing that can solar power.

So then like I could plug it into that.

All three of us on a scooter,

we make it 10 miles a day.

I mean,

we have horses like the horse would probably go farther than the scooter.

Oh my God.

I just need to get to you.

Just got to get to us.

You have a scooter, which I can do.

You're not too far.

No.

That's why you need a scooter.

There we go.

To get to you guys.

There we go.

Last but not least for us here, the last story of 2024.

Wow.

It is titled, Do I Tell My Wife the Truth After 11 Years? Probably. When we first started dating, my girlfriend asked me what my favorite meal was so she could cook it for our one month anniversary.
We were 16 and I told her my favorite meal was

chicken Parmesan. She cooked it for me from scratch and it was delicious.
However, I realized

that what I meant to say was chicken Alfredo. I felt bad that she went out of her way to cook

what she thought was my favorite meal, so I didn't correct her or myself. Fast forward to now.
We've been together for 11 years, we've been married for two, and once a month or so, she still makes chicken parm for me because she thinks it's my favorite. It's good, but it's really just not my favorite.
At this point, it's way too late to tell her the truth, right? This is so wholesome. Thank you for bringing in something low stakes like this.
I mean, I think it's fine to tell her the truth, but I also think it's fine to be like 10 years have passed. I have a new favorite thing.
There we go. People's favorite things change.
Like my dad always had my mom make him a chuck not had her make him but like his favorite thing for his birthday was like this chocolate pie and this year for the first time in like 30 years he asked for something else what'd he go with um actually was something that i made so i kind of killed that it's like a short bread with like a chocolate ganache on top. Oh, it's so good.
But I think it's like an easy way to do that is like, actually, babe, my favorite thing that you made this year. And like this recipe really, really stood out to me now.
I think this is my new favorite is your chicken alfredo. If that's still his favorite.
I like that play. Yeah.
I like that play. This isn't something big enough to bring in any sort of, you know, trust issues or anything like that.
It's not worth the risk of coming clean about an 11-year lie. It's just not worth it to say, hey, I've been lying to you for 11 11 years i like that idea a lot more because it doesn't change anything if then your conscience just can't handle it then go for it but i just because 11 years is a long time yeah because then you're saying a lot of chicken parm oh well i've been making this for you forever and you could have just so easily told me, but then you- True.
Right. The snowball went down the hill and turned into this giant thing.
Is it, will it become a problem? So you're in the boat of just don't even, don't go there? Just leave it? No, I like the change. Okay.
You know, every seven years, your whole, every cell in your body technically changes. So it's like, so do your tastes.
Yeah. Cause I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world to tell her, but she also might be like, shoot, I thought I was doing such a great thing for you all these years.
She, she probably wouldn't be like mad at you, but she might just feel like, ah, this thing that I thought I was doing for you. Like, it's almost just like preserve that.

Yeah.

Because you'd be taking that away from her to make yourself feel better.

I agree.

Yeah, I'm with you.

I'm with you.

Top comment.

I don't know if my husband said, quote,

My love, I love your chicken parm, but I have a terrible secret.

I said the wrong meal that day.

And for years, I've held on to that because I was touched you did it. I meant chicken Alfredo.
I couldn't hold it in anymore. I would love to try it from you.
Yes, he talks like that. I would probably laugh my ass off for 20 minutes that he's been stressed by his mistake this long.
Funny stories are the best part of a long life together. It depends.
Yeah, it depends.

I think that this person probably knows best how it would go in their relationship.

Yeah.

So we do have a comment following that one. This was basically the exact conversation my girlfriend and I just had regarding this post.
it's wild that this has 17 upvotes while inventing an entire scenario where you trick her into making

alfredo and then act like it's your new favorite has 20 wild that this has 17 upvotes while inventing an entire scenario where you trick her into making

Alfredo and then act like it's your new favorite has 2,600. Clapping my ass off.
So I had this one sorted by best comments. So that is the one that's coming in now and being the best.
However, the top comment with 11k upvotes is ask her to make chicken Alfredo and hype it up so much and say, I might be reaching, but this might be my new favorite. How did you manage that? And just talk about it so much that when she asks what you want for a special dinner, pretend to be stuck between the two, scratch your head and sigh and say, you know, I really think I want chicken alfredo.

Last time you made it, it was so good. I've been craving it ever since.

I mean, surely after 10 years married to someone, like you have a dinner together that really blows

you away and is now your new favorite. That sounds more normal to me than having the same favorite from how old were you? Like 17, he said.
16. 16.
Yeah. I feel like something new has got to come in.
So OP responds, this is amazing advice. Thank you.
Exactly. Next comment down.
If you think you can pull that maneuver off, then go for it. If not, you'll take it to the grave And chicken parm is your favorite Proceed with caution Yeah Y'all are silly I'm kind of on the boat of Well You don't know What would you do with me? Would you have a new favorite?

Or would you just come out and be like,

Hey, I actually hate pink pepper Thai food.

I know it's your favorite Thai in LA,

but I don't really even like it.

I like grandma's Thai kitchen.

Both good options.

I think I could go either way,

and I think we'd be totally fine.

But I just don't see a reason to invite any sort of potential for issue because there's 100%.

There's a reason that's the top comment with that many upvotes.

There are 100% people out there that would be offended and think like, why didn't you tell me? I'm hurt. You couldn't just trust.
And so you've been keeping this even. And I feel like it makes it worse that it's not even worth lying about.
But you kept this stupid lie for this many years. And I feel like people could read into that and be like, oh, this is weird.
And our dynamics off. But to that point, I mean, there is a comment here because I'm trying to find OP's response to something.
Someone goes, yeah, what the fuck? The most voted answer is a straight up lie. So it's like, yeah, he lied, but then you're covering it up with another lie, which then it's like, you double lied to me.
I think white lies are okay. I think I'm just like, it depends on the situation.
If she was like, just so proud about making you your favorite thing. And like, it meant a lot to her that she was able to do that for you and thought it meant a lot to you too.
And it's like, oh, this whole time you haven't been enjoying this. Right.
Like that, that would hurt. Yeah.
I don't, I don't know. It depends on the the relationship it depends on how much it meant to her it depends it depends well the double lie doesn't matter because you're not committing some crime you're not cheating you're not hurting somebody and they'll never know and how much of a lie is i have a new favorite food i think i would i would say like that i don't think I'd necessarily follow the top comment and like put up this whole ruse.
I'd be like, hey, you know, I've been thinking, and I think I really am leaning towards chicken Alfredo as a new favorite. You want to give that one a go? Don't make up this whole elaborate ruse with it.
So OP, in that thread of people being like, the top comment is just lying. People start asking, like, is he scared of his wife? Like, why lie? Like, what's the deal here? And OP goes, I'm not afraid of my wife.
Just trying to find a polite solution to a mistake I made as a teenager. Yeah.
And I'm also like picturing my mom in this scenario and like the things that she makes me for my birthday each year. And if I were to tell her like actually for the last 10 years I haven't liked that food you made me, I do really think it would hurt her feelings.
And like that's kind of the only example I can go off of. Yeah.
And I just think it's not worth it. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, you know what, you guys? What? He's going with the lie.
I almost forgot about it. But we have an update.
yeah. Hell yeah.
I'm glad my travesty, which also let me just give one little like, you're killing me. The moderators on r slash advice removed the post and removed his update.
Why? So like I'm literally in his account. I totally forgot that there's an update on Baru.
And I'm like, we don't have anything but no we we do have an update moderators man quit deleting the good ones leaving them in 2024 yeah so this is coming from december 11th 2024 just a few short days ago wow i remember where i was i'm glad my travesty brought so many of you joy. I apologize for taking so long to update you all, but I was vexed with a life-altering decision, and I needed to weigh the responses I received.
Okay, King. I ultimately decided to tell my wife the truth.
Oh, how'd it go? Ooh. Oh, my God.
That should be clipped as, like, I decided to tell my wife the truth. Oh, how'd it go? Boo.
That should be clipped as like, I decided to tell my wife the truth. Boo.
I'm not sure I made the right decision after all because I am far more embarrassed now than I ever was over this. I've never seen my wife laugh the way she did that night.
Just when I thought she was done laughing, she would start up all over again. We now have this incredible inside joke for the rest of our lives together.
Aw. Huge thank you to everyone who commented their advice.
Next time I'm at a restaurant, so are you going to get the chicken parm? Exactly. That's sweet.
I'm so happy for them. Love is love.
Tell the truth, baby. Love is Love is love Not all people would react that way I'm not saying that's you I'm just saying Out there in general I don't think everyone would Laugh it off No I think he Did what was right For his relationship Yes Because he knows the nuances And intricacies Better than any of us ever could Absolutely And love wins At the end.
Happy ending. Happy ending.
Thank you so much for bringing us joy there. At the end? Yeah.
We needed it. Yeah, we needed to experience the same joy as the shower pier.
She's taking my joy away. I do.
Yeah, I'm a shower pier. And sometimes I'm like, I know I'm dehydrated from that, but I make sure it all gets down.
I think that's legal. Yeah.
I think you're valid. But now I'm like, I definitely have Pavlov'd myself.
I know I have because every time I brush my teeth, I have to pee. So that's going to be my goal for 2025.
One of them. I have a few, but I'm going to not pee so close after brushing my teeth.
Better than some of the Pavlovs on the show.

I know.

Yeah.

I know.

But I would love to hear what everyone is leaving in 2024.

Like if you guys out there or on this sofa next to me have anything you want to leave in 2024,

I read just about all the comments on YouTube.

So put them on there.

Let me see what you're leaving, whether it's a bad friendship, bad relationship, bad habit. I don't know.
It is your world. So tell us what you're leaving behind.
But this has really been an amazing year. It really has.
I love that Mikayla has become more of a regular. I know the fact that I got to do thanksgiving episode and the last one of the year are you kidding mikayla is not being left behind in 2024 so exciting i'm honored thank you so much um but yeah anything i'm trying to leave was that a question yeah i'm trying to leave cracking my knuckles behind like that's something that i like really want to kick the curb on i can't do that that would be taking my joy away i know and i want it like i think i need to like hypnotize myself to like like stop cracking i've never done it but i'm gonna try to leave like door dashing in 2024 a little bit i'm a little bad with it and try to save money a bit more often oh a budget queen yeah instead of spending 30 on put that away.
Yeah, you're not avoiding the company. You're just avoiding that aspect of your life.
Yeah. A little bit is okay.
I love DoorDash, but like... But it can't keep happening the way that it's been happening.
I'm very bad about it. Like, it's literally a restaurant that's right down the street.
And I'm just like, well, it's like, get your steps in, bitch. Hot girl walk.
Get it. Yeah.
And I do think that's just down the street and I'm just like well that's like get your steps in bitch hot girl walk get it like yeah and I do think that's just like a habit that's just like a habit that you can develop or you can undevelop in a bad way so I'm yeah I'm okay I'm adding that one to my list I love that yeah what do you got uh well I'm kind of a person that the end of the year like rolling into the next year, nothing changes for me. It's just life keeps moving.
Okay. So I enact New Year's resolutions just at any random point in the year.
And the thing that I've started recently is just asking. Whether that's on chat with a representative for whatever company you're trying to get something done with just ask oh upgrade fee any chance you can remove that waive that oh let me check yeah upgrade charge oh me with a parking ticket recently it's anything also just ask for things that aren't necessarily like that um that's a good one i'm having trouble trouble coming up with examples.
No, that's excellent. That's really good.
Ask because you never know the answer. Walk up to someone you're interested in working for.
Just ask. Okay.
Just go for it. So maybe you're leaving behind the fear of rejection.
Oh, yeah. Because that is a big one.
Rejection therapy and just asking is like, that's something I've really wanted to like, I do it sometimes, but like i need to do it all the time because you never know what you'll get if you just ask yeah there was a really good quote i saw recently that was like what would you be doing if you weren't scared of failure and would it be different than what you're currently doing isn't that a powerful one like whoa i didn't even realize that I was so scared. I was so scared.
So now it's your turn, guys. Let us hear what you're leaving behind or enacting in 2025.
We can make a positive, too. We can be optimistic versus the negative.
Let us know what you're going to do in 2025. But thank you so, so, so much for being here, supporting the show, continuing to listen.
I am blown away. I mean, we're coming up on our four-year anniversary and it is very surreal.
Every day I'm like, this is my life? Pinch me. I am very, very grateful and forever indebted to you all.
So thank you.

Happy holidays.

And until next year.

Until next year.

Bye, guys.

Eee!

Woo!

High five, y'all!