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Speaker 2 From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz.

Speaker 2 My voice is so smooth, you think it just got Botox.

Speaker 2 I'm Bill Curtis.

Speaker 2 And here is your host at the Studebaker Theater of the Fine Arts Building in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Bill. Thanks, everybody.

Speaker 1 We have a great show for you today. Later on, we are going to be talking to actor Josh Gadd, who is probably most famous for playing Olaf the Snowman, the beloved character from the Frozen movies.

Speaker 1 That is, unless you are listening to us right now with young children. In which case, later on, we will be interviewing Olaf the Snowman.

Speaker 1 Remember, be yourself, whoever you might be, when you call in to play our games. The number is 1888-WAITWAIT.
That's 1-888-9248924. Now, let's welcome our first listener contested.
Hi, you're on.

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Speaker 4 Hi, this is Caroline calling in from Stanton, Virginia.

Speaker 4 stanton virginia i don't know it where is it uh it's right in the shenandoah valley oh it's beautiful there i know that much what do you do there it is so beautiful i uh work on organic vegetable farms

Speaker 2 yay we got a big yay here

Speaker 1 wow you know you know our audience that's uh

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 6 Everybody listening to this is currently holding a tote bag on the way to a farmer's market.

Speaker 2 It's true.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I thought this would play well with the NPR crowd.

Speaker 2 No fool you.

Speaker 1 Well, welcome to the show, Caroline. Let me introduce you to our panel this week.
First, it's a comedian performing at Cobb's Comedy Club on January 25th as part of San Francisco Sketch Fest.

Speaker 1 It's Josh Gondelman.

Speaker 6 Hello, thank you so much for having me here.

Speaker 1 Next, a comedian and host of the podcast Fake the Nation, and you can also see her at San Francisco Sketch Fest on January 31st. It's Naguine Farsade.

Speaker 1 And making her debut on our panel, it's the host of the TikTok series Boy Room. It's Rachel Coster.

Speaker 2 Hi, it's an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 1 So, Caroline, you, of course, are going to start us off. Who's Bill this time? The first new one of the year.
Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news.

Speaker 1 If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you will win our prize. Any voice from our show you might choose for your voicemail.
Are you ready to do this?

Speaker 2 I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Okay, your first quote is from the Prime Minister of a certain island northeast of Canada.

Speaker 2 It's not for sale.

Speaker 1 Nonetheless, Donald Trump still wants to buy it.

Speaker 4 That would be Greenland.

Speaker 1 Yes, Greenland at a press conference this week.

Speaker 1 Donald Trump, who will really be president again quite soon, said one of his national security priorities is annexing Greenland. aka not the Bjork island, the other one.

Speaker 1 He's also talked about annexing Canada, taking over the Panama Canal, and this is big. He's also going to try to buy all four railroads.

Speaker 1 So this is true. He became obsessed with taking over Greenland years ago when a friend of his showed it to him on a map.
And because of the projection of the map, it looked really, really big.

Speaker 1 That's true. Well, of course it's big.
It's yellow land and blue land put together.

Speaker 8 I went on vacation one time to Iceland,

Speaker 8 and I think if we're gonna go for something awesome, that's the place to go. They had a lot of little chubby horses and a place that only had white Russians.

Speaker 8 If we're gonna go for something far away but close enough, that's the one to do.

Speaker 9 Oh, you think you're treating it like he's at a bodega, like what picking a country to be, to shop for?

Speaker 1 Actually, it's a good pitch to Trump, actually, to buy Iceland, because as you say, you mentioned two things he really likes: white and Russian.

Speaker 1 This is interesting.

Speaker 1 He says that if Denmark does not cede Denmark, which sort of has sovereignty over Greenland, if it doesn't cede Greenland to the United States, he will hit Denmark with massive tariffs, right?

Speaker 1 But that's not going to work. It's going to fall apart as soon as people realize, and this is true, that all our Ozempic comes from Denmark.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 6 This is a beautiful irony. The same company gave us a Zempic and Danishes?

Speaker 2 Exactly, true.

Speaker 2 Pick a side.

Speaker 1 All right. Here is your next quote.

Speaker 2 A number of license plates were coated with some kind of translucent goo.

Speaker 1 That was a reporter from the New York Post describing the lengths that some New Yorkers are going to in order to get out of the way of paying what new fee.

Speaker 4 Oh, they're like surge pricing traffic?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Congestion pricing. Very good.
Yes.

Speaker 1 As of January 1st, New York now charges a toll to drive your car into midtown Manhattan. They take a picture of your license plate as you cross the border, and then they'll send you a bill.

Speaker 1 It's part of a scientific study. How far can you push rich people before they finally take the subway?

Speaker 1 And people are outraged. As New Yorkers, right, the three of you, you know this.
It's your God-given right to take half an hour to drive four blocks.

Speaker 6 It's been incredible since congestion pricing was in effect. My wife and I were in downtown Manhattan the other day and it was, there were no cars in the shoes.
It was amazing. It made me feel like if

Speaker 6 the rapture happened

Speaker 6 and like I would still be there because Jew.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 6 I feel like my second response would be like, oh no, what happened to all these people? But my first response would be to like tap my wife and be like, honey, we can finally go to Carbone.

Speaker 1 So money from congestion pricing, I guess this is good news for New Yorkers, it's going to go towards public transportation, which presumably will get really great now.

Speaker 1 It's gonna, you know, like you'll get on, you'll be like, I don't remember this bus having a chandelier.

Speaker 1 And in the subway, waiters will come around. They'll be like, Would you prefer to sit in tap or sparkling urine?

Speaker 9 Oh my god, Peter, yeah, I mean, you're the forget. I mean, I was on a subway the other day, just like a wet thing just fell into my brow, and I was like, What was that wet thing?

Speaker 9 And I think it was some sort of a leak because maybe the train had been outside and then went underground or whatever. But forget chandeliers, I just want that one wet thing not to come on my face.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 9 just a dry train, which is so delightful.

Speaker 6 You're dreaming of a New York city that can afford towels.

Speaker 12 Go back to sleep.

Speaker 1 All right, your last quote is a line of of dialogue from a recent Lindsey Lohan movie on Netflix.

Speaker 2 After this job is over, I am off to Bolivia to photograph an endangered tree lizard.

Speaker 1 Now, Caroline, that line was written after Netflix advised TV and film producers to assume that their audience was always doing what while they're watching.

Speaker 4 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 4 On their phones?

Speaker 1 I'm going to give it to you because the answer is anything else.

Speaker 1 Netflix has admitted, at least internally, that they have lost the battle for our attention.

Speaker 1 They now assume everybody watching their service is either cooking or knitting or watching Hulu on their phone.

Speaker 1 In an article that came out this week, screenwriters said that Netflix execs instructed them, quote, have this character announce what they're doing so the viewers who have this program on in the background can follow along, unquote, right?

Speaker 1 So that's now you know. That's why characters in say Bridgerton are always saying things like, I'm in the room now and I'm removing my clothes.

Speaker 1 And people on Love is Blind are saying, I am making a terrible mistake.

Speaker 9 But I mean, it's so clunky. If they had been doing this, instead of it being like, go ahead, make my day.
It would be like, as you can see, I am carrying a gun now.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, no.

Speaker 1 We are so lucky that there have been so many great movies made before Netflix. For example, can you imagine like The Godfather?

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, there's a horse's head in my bed.

Speaker 2 How did it get there?

Speaker 8 Not really quotable.

Speaker 1 No, not as much. Not as much.

Speaker 6 I, Sam, am playing it again.

Speaker 2 Here in Casablanca.

Speaker 8 It puts the lotion in the basket.

Speaker 2 Oh, they.

Speaker 2 Well, then it would be like, I'm putting the lotion on my skin.

Speaker 2 That'll bring like a third category of actor.

Speaker 9 Like, you know, you have a face for radio, so you can have like a face for like movies or you can have a face for Netflix.

Speaker 2 You know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I see what you mean. Where no one is actually going to look at you.
Yeah, no one's going to look at you.

Speaker 2 It doesn't really matter.

Speaker 6 I actually would be perfect for that because I have a face that bartenders love to ignore.

Speaker 6 Like my whole, I feel like I spend hours every year being like, sir, excuse me, ma'am, excuse me, I just want to, excuse me.

Speaker 6 So I feel like I could be on one of those shows and people would be like, no idea what was happening, but he told me everything he was doing.

Speaker 2 I'm ordering a drink.

Speaker 6 I'm trying to get a vodka soda for my wife.

Speaker 2 Just ordering a drink.

Speaker 1 Bill, how did Caroline do in our quiz?

Speaker 2 Two right, one freebie. She's a winner.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, Caroline. Yay!

Speaker 2 Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news.

Speaker 1 Josh, this week we learned about the hottest new trend in baby showers instead of doing things like, oh, guessing the baby's gender or bringing presents.

Speaker 6 Guests are asked to do what?

Speaker 6 There's so much you could do at a baby shower and it's all kind of deranged.

Speaker 1 Deranged?

Speaker 6 Like all the games where it's like you gotta put baby food in the diaper and people go,

Speaker 6 it's crooked. That's cross.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 1 can I have a hint, please? Yes, you may have a hint. We're talking about baby showers and the new trend.

Speaker 1 So for example, if you did want to have a game, you could have first person to fill up the vacuum bag wins a Starbucks gift card.

Speaker 6 Have people do chores?

Speaker 1 Yes, to have people do chores for you.

Speaker 1 According to the New York Times, more and more couples are replacing flashy baby showers with what are called nesting parties, in which your friends come over and do what new parents normally have to do on their own.

Speaker 1 Painting the nursery, assembling a crib, realizing their lives are effectively ruined for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 6 Hearing that you can get your friends to clean your apartment for you does make me feel more ready to have children.

Speaker 1 You think so? Finally? You're ready to?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, no, I guess I'm just ready to tell my friends we're going to have children.

Speaker 6 I don't think we need the children. I think we just need a trick.

Speaker 1 You could trick them over and you can get like through three or four good cleanings with like hysterical projects.

Speaker 9 You get like some IKEA furniture that needs assembling.

Speaker 6 How many chores can you get if you're just like, we're trying?

Speaker 6 I don't want to clean my room.

Speaker 6 I don't want to sweep the floor.

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Speaker 2 From NPR and WBEC Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Bill Curtis.
We are playing this week with Rachel Coster, Josh Gondelman, and Nageen Farsad.

Speaker 2 And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sagal. Thank you, Bill.

Speaker 1 Right now, it is time for the WaitWait Don't Tell Me bluff the listener game call 188 WaitWait to play our game in the air or check out the pinned post on our Instagram page at WaitWaitNPR.

Speaker 1 All the info is there. Hi, you're on WaitWait, Don't Tell Me.

Speaker 13 Hi, my name is Greg, and I'm calling from Daytona Beach, home of Ambrovidal Aeronautical University, where I work.

Speaker 1 Oh, and what do you teach there?

Speaker 13 I teach mathematics.

Speaker 1 You teach mathematics, like the math that a pilot needs to know?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 13 most of my students are the engineers.

Speaker 2 Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 It's not like you teach them how to read a fuel gauge.

Speaker 2 Zero is bad.

Speaker 6 My favorite pilot math is like, we can't tell you exactly when we'll be leaving, but we are 10th in line for taking.

Speaker 1 Greg, it's nice to have you with us. You're going to play the game in which you must try to tell truth from fiction.
Bill, what's the topic?

Speaker 2 What ails Wales?

Speaker 1 There's controversy in Wales, and it's not just that the Welsh language is hoarding the world's supply of the letter Y.

Speaker 1 Our panelists are going to tell you about what's going on in that little section of the United Kingdom. Pick the one who's telling the truth.

Speaker 1 You'll win the weight, waiter of your choice, and your voicemail. You ready to play?

Speaker 1 Sure. Okay, first let's hear from Naguin Farsad.

Speaker 9 The Welsh are known for their love of the harp. In fact, it's the national instrument.

Speaker 9 It was medieval Wales that created something called the Welsh triple harp, which from what I understand is three times more harp than the average harp.

Speaker 9 Point is, the Welsh are unabashed harpies.

Speaker 9 Which is why a scandal erupted at the Wales College of Music when a group of upstart harpists wanted to innovate.

Speaker 9 These radical harp apostates started by using gut strings on their harps instead of the traditional plated horsehair. I mean, can you imagine?

Speaker 9 Then one of the musicians, Kylie Cadwallader, decided to lean her harp on her right shoulder instead of her left, like some sort of terrorist.

Speaker 9 Things really went off the rails when the musicians released a harp track set to a dubstep beat.

Speaker 9 Even though dubstep is so 10 years ago, the public was enraged. Tens of protesters gathered in front of the college.
To date, the musicians and the public are at a standstill.

Speaker 9 Cadwallader is quoted as saying, I don't know, like, I might just take up guitar,

Speaker 9 or however she would have said it. And that's my approximation of how she would have said that.

Speaker 2 That is very good, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, a scandal in the harp world, as some people play it on the wrong side.

Speaker 1 And to a dubstep beat.

Speaker 1 Your next story of controversy in Cardiff comes from Rachel Coster.

Speaker 8 Merriment came to a halt on Christmas morning when the champion of a local Welsh food competition was caught cheating.

Speaker 8 The cheers were deafening when preschool teacher Bethan Hughes broke the 10-minute world record by eating 72 pickled cockles, which are small mullusks that, I'm sorry to say, look like baby birds' heads.

Speaker 8 The audience showered Bethany with roses while she took the stage to receive her gift card to Tesco's worth £20.

Speaker 8 The celebration was interrupted, however, when the beloved stray tomcat of the town, Mr. Jellybeans, leapt to the stage and began pawing at Bethany's sleeve.

Speaker 8 It was clear something was really wrong, said a police officer. Mr.
Jelly Beans does not like drama, so this had to be big.

Speaker 8 Sure enough, with one tug, a funnel tumbled out from Bethany's sleeve with the shellfish with it.

Speaker 8 The audience gasped, and Bethan shrieked, come on guys, no one really likes cockles, which was drowned out by booing. Some people are just plain bad, wept the mayor.
Mr.

Speaker 8 Jelly Beans has been gifted a key to the city.

Speaker 1 A cheating scandal at the pickled cockle eating contest.

Speaker 1 Your last rare Welsh bit comes from Josh Gondelman.

Speaker 6 One of the most popular genres in modern literature is romanticy. These books combine the traditions of romance and fantasy to create an entirely new type of nerd.

Speaker 6 Many romanticy stories take inspiration from whales, and no, they aren't love stories about orcas sinking billionaires' yachts. That's a separate genre called Romarxism.

Speaker 6 Romanticy often draws on creatures from Welsh folklore and uses Welsh names for characters. But scholars and Welsh people are unhappy with this Welsh appropriation.

Speaker 6 Quote, it can be pretty patronizing, says Dimitra Fimi, who is a professor of fantasy in children's literature and probably not an elf.

Speaker 6 It creates an image of the country which isn't realistic. That's not what Wales is.
And that's true. Most Welsh people have never even met a warlock.
Never mind, kissed one.

Speaker 1 All right, these are your choices. One of these things

Speaker 1 happened in the ancient and storied kingdom of Wales. Was it from Naguen, a scandal when some harpists played dubstep music on their traditional Welsh harps?

Speaker 1 From Rachel, the winner of the pickled cockles eating contest, found to be a cheater, or from Josh, that experts on Welsh culture complaining that all of these fantasy romance novels are doing Wales dirty.

Speaker 1 Which of these is the real story of trouble in Wales?

Speaker 13 The last one I think is sounds the most believable and I don't hear any audience.

Speaker 13 I guess the audiences don't only help the

Speaker 2 drive.

Speaker 6 They decided collectively, 600 people, he gets nothing.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 13 I'll go with the last one.

Speaker 1 So you're going to go then, that was Josh's story. Now, to bring you the correct answer, we spoke to a reporter who covered this scandal.

Speaker 14 It's about making that distinction that the people in the historic stories aren't fairies and are Welsh.

Speaker 2 Yes, that was Katrina Aiken.

Speaker 1 A journalist in the BBC World News who reported on the fairy fact-checking going on in Wales. Congratulations, Greg.
You got it right. You earned a point for Josh.
You've won our prize.

Speaker 1 The voice of anyone you may choose on your voicemail. Thank you so much for playing with us today.
Take care. Thank you.
Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 And now the game we call Not My Job, Josh Gadd, keeps getting famous over and over again, but for different things.

Speaker 1 He became famous to many people when he starred in the original production of Book of Mormon on Broadway.

Speaker 2 Then again...

Speaker 1 He became famous to more people when he played Olaf the Snowman and the Frozen movies, and then again as La Fou in the live-action Disney Disney, Beauty, and the Beast.

Speaker 1 So we assume he's going to become famous all over again as an author because his new memoir is In Gad We Trust. It's out now.
Josh Gadd, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to have you.

Speaker 1 And congratulations on the book, which I devoured this week. Was it a little intimidating to write a memoir at the age of 43?

Speaker 11 Well, it was.

Speaker 11 Just sitting there and typing all the words was intimidating because I had to come up with them.

Speaker 11 And, you know, as it started to expand, it just felt like, okay, this may be a story worth telling.

Speaker 11 And then a publisher paid me and I was like, okay, it is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that'll do it.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 1 you answered a question in the book that I often ask to people like you who've done a lot of different things.

Speaker 11 And that's why I answered it. Thank you.

Speaker 2 You anticipated.

Speaker 1 This conference figured, let's just save time. Peter, just read the damn book.
The question I often often ask people like you who've done so many different things is, what are you most recognized for?

Speaker 1 And you say in the book that you wish you had used a different voice for Olaf the snowman because whenever you're talking in public, children hear you and go insane.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it was a stupid decision.

Speaker 11 I will get recognized in like grocery stores just being like, hi, is the milk over there? It can be something as innocuous as that.

Speaker 11 And all of a sudden, three children will just give me an extra six care.

Speaker 11 So, I regret that now,

Speaker 11 but at the same time, I'm grateful that so many people

Speaker 11 love the voice of Olaf, which is me.

Speaker 11 The other thing that I'm weirdly recognized for is Bearclaw from New Girl, which makes no sense.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, there's some people. So, I myself have never watched the show.
Why is that surprising? Who is Bearclaw?

Speaker 11 That's my question as well.

Speaker 11 I did two episodes of that show.

Speaker 11 And what's so funny is people went nuts for Bearclaw. He was this guy who like pined after Jess played by Zoe Deschanel.
And I was actually with Zoe's real life husband, Jonathan, yesterday.

Speaker 11 And he looked at me and he goes, Bearclaw and Jess should have ended up together.

Speaker 2 Which is

Speaker 11 a very weird take.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but from her actual husband.

Speaker 11 Yeah, there's like a small community, including her own husband, who just really love their cloth.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 9 Can I ask a question about Olaf?

Speaker 9 So I have a six-year-old daughter. So your voice is like in my apartment all the time.

Speaker 2 And I, you're.

Speaker 11 This feels like less of a question and more like a threat.

Speaker 9 Like, what kind of relationship do you have with the parents of the children that go nuts?

Speaker 11 One that's very volatile, like whatever you're talking about.

Speaker 2 Like this thing that's happening right now.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 11 No, you know what's funny is

Speaker 11 I've now been on the other side of it where like my girls are obsessed with wicked right now.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 11 And I'm having to listen to Ariana Grande's popular over and over and over again or Cynthia Rivo's

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 I'm with you.

Speaker 2 I'm struggling, and I know these people.

Speaker 11 And so I'm texting them.

Speaker 11 And I'm like, can we please just put

Speaker 11 a moratorium on this?

Speaker 11 This is a great job, but I can no longer listen to these songs on a loop.

Speaker 2 Wow. It's like a Twilight Zone episode thing where it happens to you, man.

Speaker 6 It took so much empathy for you to give that detailed answer instead of just saying, as I would have, Nagin, let it go.

Speaker 2 He has more dignity than that, Josh. He has more dignity than that.
He's the superior Josh G.

Speaker 1 You did tell the story in the book of one person who did not recognize you, which was the director David O. Russell.

Speaker 11 Oh, God. Yeah.
So David O. Russell, this is such a crazy story.

Speaker 11 David O. Russell, brilliant brilliant director.

Speaker 11 We were at the same mommy and me program, because we're both mommies.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 11 we were outside, and it was after he had just been nominated for one of the many films he was nominated for. And he looks at me, and

Speaker 11 I said, congratulations on your nomination. He goes, oh, thank you.
What do you do? And I said, oh, I'm an actor. And he says, well, what do you do? What do you act?

Speaker 3 And I said, Oh,

Speaker 11 well, you know, you're here, I do this, I do that. He didn't recognize any of them.
And then I said, You know, your kid may know me from something called Frozen. And he goes, What's that?

Speaker 2 Animated movie that's sort of, you know, everywhere, but you're home.

Speaker 11 And he goes, Oh, what are you doing it? And I said, I'm a snowman.

Speaker 11 And it was, um,

Speaker 11 do it.

Speaker 2 I said,

Speaker 2 what?

Speaker 11 He said, do it.

Speaker 11 And I said, do the snowman? He goes, yeah.

Speaker 11 And I looked at him, this Academy Award-winning director, and I said, hi, I'm Olaf.

Speaker 2 And he looked at me and he goes, huh.

Speaker 11 And And I have not been in a David O'Russell film.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 So, there you go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Should have done a song, dude. That would have done it.

Speaker 11 But then afterwards, he goes, oh, you're bear cloth.

Speaker 2 Well, game over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, amazing. Well, Josh Gadd, it is a pleasure to talk to you after seeing you do so many amazing things over the years.
But we have asked you here to play a game we're calling.

Speaker 2 Josh Gadd, meet posh lads.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we've decided to ask you about posh lads, those fancy boys produced by British universities and boarding schools.

Speaker 1 Bill, who is Josh playing for?

Speaker 2 Larry Anderson of Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 Here's your first question. In 1805, posh lad and poet Lord Byron attended Cambridge University, but Cambridge wouldn't let him bring his dog with him as dogs were banned.

Speaker 1 So Lord Byron, Byron, that scamp, did what? Was it A, he kept a bear in his dorm room instead because nothing in the rules said he couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 B he built a doghouse 50 feet away just off school grounds with a tunnel connecting it to his room or C, he submitted a fake application that got his dog hired as a professor.

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 11 I think it's the bear thing because that's just crazy to come up with.

Speaker 1 Well, you think it's the bear? Well, you're right. It was a bear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he used to walk around. He used to to walk the bear around campus on a chain.
All right, Josh, your next question.

Speaker 1 The famously elite Eaton College has a long-standing tradition called the Eaton Wall Game. It's a sort of combination of soccer and rugby, and it's played against this big brick wall.

Speaker 1 Yes, I've played it.

Speaker 2 You have?

Speaker 11 No, I lied to you.

Speaker 1 There's an annual game between the fanciest king scholars and the rest of the school. It's a big deal, even though which of these is true.

Speaker 1 A, the last time anyone scored a goal in the game was in 1909.

Speaker 1 B, the wall completely encloses the playing field, so none of the spectators can actually see anything. Or C, the game is played with a 95-year-old ball that deflates if you kick it.

Speaker 11 I'm gonna go with C.

Speaker 1 You're gonna go with C, that is played with a

Speaker 1 95-year-old ball. No, the answer is actually A, no one has scored a goal in this game for more than 100 years.

Speaker 1 Here's your last question. If you get this, you win.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 Eden Eton was founded in the year 1440. So obviously a lot has changed over the years.
For example, in the 17th century, what was a rule imposed on all Etonians?

Speaker 1 A, before exams, the headmaster inspected each boy to ensure his upper lip was sufficiently stiff. B students were forbidden from even learning the cleaning staff's first names.

Speaker 1 Or C, for their health, all students were required to smoke before breakfast.

Speaker 11 I'm thinking it's B.

Speaker 11 Wait,

Speaker 11 what is your audience screaming?

Speaker 1 The audience is screaming C. The audience is screaming C.

Speaker 11 All right, well, my friend in Denver, if the audience gets this wrong, it's on them, not me. C.

Speaker 1 You're all right, it was C.

Speaker 1 We did it! They smoked tobacco. They were forced to smoke tobacco for their health.
It probably protected them.

Speaker 11 I love you guys. Thank you for bailing me out.

Speaker 1 Bill, how did Josh Gadd do in our quiz?

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Speaker 2 I don't know.

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We are playing this week with Josh Gondelman, Rachel Coster, and Nageen Farsad.

Speaker 2 And here again is your host at the Studebaker Theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Segel.

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Speaker 1 Right now, panel, though, some more questions for you from the week's news. Naguin, this week, Kia, car company, recalled over 20,000 EVs because the seats may not be securely fastened to the chassis.

Speaker 1 They looked into the problem, and they blame it on what?

Speaker 9 Okay, the seats are not connected to the chassis, which I'm imagining is the main thing.

Speaker 2 The main carter car, yeah. Sorry if you're using technical automotive industry terms.

Speaker 9 And so, why is it not fastened?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've tried to figure out, like, not, they had to check 20,000 cars to make sure the bolts were fastened. Of course, they wanted to see how this was.

Speaker 9 That one guy, Ron, did that.

Speaker 2 It was one guy.

Speaker 2 I was joking.

Speaker 2 I know you were. And yet,

Speaker 1 and this is, I think, the sign of the times we live in, you stumbled on the truth.

Speaker 1 They determined that it was one guy at one factory who forgot to tighten the bolts, right?

Speaker 1 So the Kia EV9 is an all-new electric SUV that the company promised would make electric vehicles exciting again, and guess what? They were right.

Speaker 1 And it's got three rows of seats, two of which are supposed to be removable, but not if you just stop suddenly.

Speaker 1 And so some cars were found with these loose seat bolts, and the problem was traced to this one worker in one factory who didn't tighten them.

Speaker 1 They found him by asking everybody who worked in that factory, lefty Lucy, righty what?

Speaker 6 Not to brag, but I believe I could be that guy.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 8 Me too. I used to be a barista, and we found out that somebody wasn't cleaning the espresso machine at the end of the day.
Somebody.

Speaker 8 And it turned out that it was me, and I just had no idea that that was part of my job.

Speaker 8 Because the person who taught me was getting paid $14 an hour, so it wasn't really in her best interest to go above and beyond.

Speaker 8 And I never really asked, so people were getting really scudsy espresso for like months.

Speaker 7 I'm adding.

Speaker 9 But also, did anyone tell Ron that thing about how a chair is supposed to be on a thing called a chassis?

Speaker 2 Possibly. Maybe he was in I didn't know.

Speaker 1 On the other hand, I mean, he could have discovered a great new thing in cars. I mean, sure, maybe the chairs should move wherever you want them.
I love an open concept Kia.

Speaker 1 Rachel, if you're a frequent flyer, you have to be careful because according to the New York Times, airlines aren't just tracking where you fly and how often. They're also tracking what?

Speaker 8 The snacks that you get on the plane.

Speaker 1 That would be a good guess. No, they're tracking something else you do on the plane to wild.

Speaker 8 How many times you go to the bathroom?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and if you do it too many times, they throw you out.

Speaker 2 Mid-air.

Speaker 8 How much you talk? No. How much you cry.

Speaker 2 If you need a blanket.

Speaker 1 What do people do on the, especially on the ones with the screens and the seatbacks now? What do they do?

Speaker 2 Sleep.

Speaker 7 Sorry, sorry. What's the answer?

Speaker 2 It's so obvious to everyone. I like watching the screen.
Watching movies. Yes, watching movies, Rachel.

Speaker 1 Yes, the airlines apparently are keeping data on what all of us are watching on our little entertainment centers. Airlines know everything about what you're watching.

Speaker 1 They know what you like to watch, when you paused it, how fast you press skip when the characters start disrobing and there are kids behind you.

Speaker 1 So now like your profile on like the United app is like TSA precheck number, prefers aisle seats and watched four hours of MILF Manor. Seat alone when possible.

Speaker 2 For me,

Speaker 8 they know to put me between two tennis stars, two white tennis stars. I watched challenges maybe 14 times on the way here.
It's a two-hour flight. I went really fast.

Speaker 1 This isn't fair. Everybody knows that what you watch on airplanes doesn't count.

Speaker 1 It's like doing a crime in international waters, right?

Speaker 1 I may have watched all of Young Sheldon twice, but since I was in the sky, no crime was committed.

Speaker 2 Peter.

Speaker 6 I love that you brought this up. It's wild to me that international waters, anything goes.
International air, so many rules.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's true. Yeah.

Speaker 12 You can't even bring a gun anymore.

Speaker 2 God.

Speaker 1 Coming up, it's Lightning Fill in the Blank, but first it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call or leave a message at 188-WATEWATE.

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Speaker 5 Hi, Peter. This is David Safford, calling as a student at Baldwin Wallace University in Berea, Ohio.

Speaker 1 Tell me about Baldwin Wallace University.

Speaker 5 It's very small. It's got a, it's mostly a music conservatory.
I'm going there for a music education. It's a you know cute little place, nice little town.

Speaker 1 Yeah, cool people like that. Music education.

Speaker 1 Are you a musician? What kind of music do you play?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I've been playing the viola for a good chunk of my life, and I also play the piano.

Speaker 2 Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 Well, David, welcome to the show. Bill Curtis is going to read for you three news-related limericks with the last word or phrase missing from each.

Speaker 1 If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly into the limericks, you will be a winner. Ready to play? Absolutely.
Here's your first limerick.

Speaker 2 Since the 70s, I have much flair. No barber put me in their chair.
It has been 50 years since I've faced any shears. Now I celebrate 10-foot-long

Speaker 1 hair, yes. A man named Andy Chertow

Speaker 1 threw a party last month to celebrate 50 years since his last haircut. They knew it had been 50 years because they cut off a hunk of it and just counted the rings.

Speaker 1 He cut his hair the last time before an office Christmas party in 1974, and after that he decided to grow his hair out, and now he has 10-foot-long dreadlocks.

Speaker 1 And I know you're wondering, is he white?

Speaker 2 Of course he is.

Speaker 1 Post says his hair, his dreadlocks are so long that he cannot walk without picking them up and stuffing them in his pocket.

Speaker 9 Big pocket. Oh, you can fit all that hair in one pocket.

Speaker 7 And that's

Speaker 7 not that much hair.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whoa, is that 50 years of coiled hair in your pocket?

Speaker 2 Are you just happy to see me?

Speaker 2 Honestly,

Speaker 6 if you're close enough to ask that question, probably both.

Speaker 2 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 It's like the version of Rapunzel where the prince is like, yeah, no thanks, gonna stay down here.

Speaker 1 Here is your next limerick.

Speaker 2 Though they seem like a pine-flavored treat, leave your Christmas trees out in the street. If you value your life, put away fork and knife, because your tree is too toxic to

Speaker 1 eat? Eat! Yes, officials in Belgium are pleading with their Belgian residents to refrain from discarding their Christmas trees by eating them.

Speaker 1 Instead, they're asking everyone to dispose of them properly by throwing the tree to the curb and watching as someone trips on it while looking at their phone.

Speaker 1 The warning came after the city of Ghent suggested reducing holiday waste by using all Christmas trees for pine needle spruce butter, which to their credit is great on Roast Elf.

Speaker 2 You're spreading more rumors about whales.

Speaker 2 The Welsh scientists are going to get so mad at you.

Speaker 6 You've pung full circle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I really have.

Speaker 1 All right, here's your last limmer.

Speaker 2 My texting tool rings, I just bawl. So I'll go to this big lecture hall.
There, I'll conquer my fear. Hold it up to my ear.
I take classes in making a

Speaker 2 call.

Speaker 1 A call, yes, a college in England is teaching students how to make phone calls.

Speaker 1 This is in response to Gen Z's infamous tech, you know, phone phobia. They don't want to call people.
It improves students', quote, phone confidence and etiquette.

Speaker 1 It's the only course in the world where the midterm is leaving a voicemail and the final is spending 20 whole minutes talking to your mother without also scrolling Instagram.

Speaker 8 Are they teaching pranks too? I feel like they do.

Speaker 2 Phone pranks?

Speaker 8 Yeah, teach kids that refrigerators are running.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And to ask about it so they can look out for their fellow man. Or how to make a Chinese order

Speaker 8 pretending that you're like British or something so it's not so scary.

Speaker 6 Wait, is that something, Rachel?

Speaker 8 That was what I did when I was a little kid.

Speaker 2 Wait a minute. What did you do?

Speaker 8 When I was on the phone to make a Chinese order when you were a child, when I would order Chinese food as a child, I would pretend that I was British because it made it less scary.

Speaker 8 Because when I'm me, it's vulnerable. When I'm British, I'm glamorous.

Speaker 2 And no one's going to say no to me about mooshu pork.

Speaker 1 Can you give us a sample of what that sounded like when you, small child like Rachel Coster, would call up and order Chinese food in a British accent?

Speaker 2 I'm 30 years old

Speaker 2 and I would love to get ma po tofu.

Speaker 2 Definitely. If you put it on an order with your age.

Speaker 2 Darling,

Speaker 8 extra cookies for my daughter.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 6 did you say that you were 30? Obviously, the oldest age you could think of at the time.

Speaker 2 It helps.

Speaker 6 Because you were like, they would never say no to an adult woman.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 Bill, how did David do in our quiz?

Speaker 2 David's now the king of marae. He won them all.
Three in a row.

Speaker 1 Congratulations.

Speaker 8 Yay. This is the greatest day of my life.

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Speaker 1 Now it is time for our final game, Lightning Fill-in-the-Blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill-in-the-blank questions as they can.

Speaker 1 Each correct answer is now worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores?

Speaker 2 Nageel and Rachel each have two. Josh has three.

Speaker 1 So, Naguin, we're going to pick you to go first. The clock will start when I begin your first question, fill in the blank.
On Wednesday, mandatory evacuation orders hit L.A.

Speaker 1 as multiple blanks burned across the area. Wildfire.
Right. On Tuesday, the first U.S.
death from blank flu was reported in Louisiana. Avian bird flu.
Right.

Speaker 1 This week, the White House announced a $500 million aid package for blank.

Speaker 1 Ukraine. Right, on Monday, the Surgeon General called for cancer warnings to be added to Blank.

Speaker 7 Alcohol.

Speaker 1 Right, this week, a woman trying to text her drug dealer put in the wrong number and accidentally texted Blank.

Speaker 2 Her mom.

Speaker 1 No, a narcotics officer. On Thursday,

Speaker 1 the WWE announced its live debut on Blank drew 2.6 million viewers. Netflix? Right, on Monday, fast-food giant Blank announced changes to its menu.

Speaker 2 Arby's? Arby's? No.

Speaker 1 This week, a good Samaritan in St. Louis helped a man dig his car out of the snow and then blanked.

Speaker 7 Bought him some Arby's.

Speaker 1 No, then stole the car.

Speaker 2 According to the

Speaker 1 thief spent a few minutes getting the car unstuck from the snow and then pulled out a gun and demanded the keys.

Speaker 1 And if that weren't bad enough, he then helped someone shovel their driveway and immediately moved into their house.

Speaker 1 Bill, how did Naguin do on our quiz?

Speaker 2 Five right, ten more points. Settled at 12, puts you in the lead.
All right.

Speaker 2 12's the number to beat, game.

Speaker 1 All right, Rachel, you're up next. Fill in the blank.
On Thursday, President Biden delivered a eulogy at the funeral of former President Blank. Jimmy Carter.
Right.

Speaker 1 On Monday, Donald Trump said he wanted to put his entire legislative agenda in one massive blank.

Speaker 2 Country. No.

Speaker 1 One massive bill. On Tuesday, federal prosecutors said they had uncovered additional alleged criminal conduct by New York Mayor Blank.
Adams. Right.

Speaker 1 In response to the strained health care system in his town, the mayor of Bel Castro, Italy, has blanked. Passed.

Speaker 2 I guess that would be a reaction to lack of health care simply to die. But in this case,

Speaker 1 what he did was he banned residents from getting sick.

Speaker 1 According to new research, drinking blank in the morning can reduce risk of cardiovascular disease.

Speaker 2 Coffee. Right.

Speaker 1 On Sunday, Shogun and Hacks were the big winners at this year's Blank Awards.

Speaker 2 Golden Glow.

Speaker 1 Right, this week a man complained that he missed his flight home from Arizona thanks to blank.

Speaker 8 A storm.

Speaker 1 No, thanks to the driverless taxi he got stuck in, which was just driving in circles around the airport parking lot.

Speaker 2 Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 Couldn't get out, couldn't get on his flight. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows you need to arrive at the airport at least two hours before your flight, plus an additional eight hours for your driverless taxi to run out of gas so you can escape.

Speaker 1 Bill, how did Rachel do on our quiz?

Speaker 2 Very good for a rookie. Four rights.
Eight more points. The total of ten is still trailing by two.
All right.

Speaker 1 So how many then does Josh Gonnellman need to win?

Speaker 2 Five big ones to win.

Speaker 1 Here we go, Josh. This is for the game.
On Tuesday, Meta announced it would no longer be blanking posts on Instagram and Facebook. Fact-checking.

Speaker 1 Right, on Monday, Canadian Prime Minister Blank announced he was resigning. Justin Trudeau.

Speaker 1 Right, after the Supreme Court refused to issue a stay, Blank was sentenced for his conviction and a hush money case on Friday. Donald Trump? Right.

Speaker 1 California Highway Patrol officers who pulled over a Rolls-Royce for speeding found blank inside. Nobody.

Speaker 1 No, they found five cell phones, four bins of marijuana, and a a riding shotgun, a baby spider monkey wearing a onesie.

Speaker 6 That was my next guess.

Speaker 1 On Monday, a Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist at the Washington Post resigned from the paper because they refused to publish a cartoon critical of Blank.

Speaker 6 Billionaires, like Jeff Bezos and.

Speaker 1 Jeff Bezos and other billionaires. Yes.
On Tuesday, Peter Yarrow, one-third of the folk group Blank, passed away at the age of 86.

Speaker 6 Peter, Paul, and Mary.

Speaker 1 Right. This week, 17-year-old Luke Littler became the world darts champion, overcoming the fact that he cannot legally blank

Speaker 1 play darts and bars no he cannot legally buy darts in the United Kingdom there's a law in the UK banning the sale of dangerous weapons like knives swords and even darts to anyone under 18 and the new world champion doesn't turn 18 for two more weeks but if it's really a problem he could just fly to America buy any gun he likes and then hold up a darts shop

Speaker 2 Bill did Josh do well enough to win but he got five right ten more points you put all his points together he has 13, which is a win.

Speaker 10 There you go. I was worried.

Speaker 2 I was worried you were going to put them together. I know.
They're all just lying there.

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Speaker 9 They'll have to pay for rat sightings and the toll is a slice of pizza paid directly to each rat.

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Speaker 8 In order to watch the YouTube video of the subway taker next to you's phone, you'll have to give them a fiver.

Speaker 1 And Josh Gomelman.

Speaker 6 Brooklyn residents will be forced to shell out 11 bucks just to elbow their friend, point across the street, and whisper, I think that's Ethan Hawk.

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