13. Brave Parenting Qs & the Power of Saying YES!

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Glennon and Amanda decided to add a second episode each week after Glennon’s big move to California—in the first Thursday episode, they discuss:
1. Glennon’s experiment of Saying Yes to anything the universe invites her to.
2. How much screen time is too much screen time?
3. Are we all just Pendulum Parenting (over-correcting parents’ mistakes and screwing our kids up in the equal and opposite way our parents screwed us up)?

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Well, hey everybody.

Welcome back to Week and Do Hard Things.

This is a really exciting day because we decided to add an episode each week.

And the reason we decided to do that is because,

well, we missed you.

Once a week didn't seem enough.

Also, we were hearing from you that you felt quite abandoned for the rest of the week.

And thirdly, the responses to each episode and the questions you're sending are so amazing and there are so many.

And we haven't been able to get to enough of them on our first episode each week.

So now we're coming to you for a second episode.

Hi, sister.

Hello, G-Bird.

This is so wild.

I'm looking at you.

And your background looks completely different.

And you, this is the first time I'm seeing you in your new state.

I know.

And you all, if it's a little bit echoey, I'm very sorry.

I'm doing my best, but I am in a house with narrow, a piece of furniture.

And so the echo is just the empty halls of this home, which is in a new place.

We moved from Florida to Southern California,

all the way across the whole damn country

with

all of us, the whole fam family.

So me, Abby, Craig, Chase, Tish, Amma, our four dogs, just the whole, it was like national lampoons move across the country, but we made it and we're here.

And now I'm even further from you, sister.

I miss you.

It was those hours that you're all in the plane.

I mean, it was the most anxious.

The whole time I'm like, everyone.

That one little bucket of tin has all of my people in it.

And I couldn't breathe.

It was really tough.

But then you landed and I realized I probably needed to get medicated and it was, it was

so happy.

I'm so excited for all of you.

Thank you.

We're excited too.

It's all the newness here.

We're trying to figure things out.

We don't know anybody.

We don't know what to do with ourselves.

It's like that very beginning of moving where you realize, oh, I don't have a doctor.

I don't have an orthodontist for my kids.

I don't have any friends.

I don't know.

So that's just like me normally, actually.

Yeah.

I lived here for 20 years, but that's fine.

Right.

So maybe it's actually a good excuse.

Like it makes sense that I don't have any of those things.

But it's interesting that you say how you're, you know, you've done things the last 20 years because

I,

the kids keep saying, well, how am I going to make friends?

How am I going to make friends?

And you realize, oh my God, that is such a huge responsibility when you move kids.

It's like you're kind of, you have to help them co-create this whole other life, this whole new life.

And so, Abby and I have been talking about it a lot.

And then we are like, wait, we have to make friends.

Like, how do we make friends?

Like, Elma gets to go to soccer, but like, I have no activity.

Where am I going to meet people?

Yeah, but that's elective.

I mean, I feel like for kids, when you think about the reality of being a kid, okay,

it makes, I mean, it makes me just

my blood go cold.

I mean, here is here, small child, get on this bus, go be shipped to this place, be surrounded by strangers, hopefully someone you've seen before, and have to forge your way every day.

I mean, they have to make friends.

They're just in this world.

You and Abby could decide you don't want to make friends.

You and Craig and Abby could hang out forever.

But

they have to.

It just feels very precarious and scary to be a child.

And then they have to, oh, and then by the way, and God, as a teacher, I used to watch this.

We tell them, you know, make friends, be with people who are good to you.

And then they don't get to pick who they hang out with.

Like, exactly.

They're stuck in the same class on the same team.

It's like the one thing about being a grown-up that is good.

The one thing is you actually get to choose who you spend your time with.

Right.

And then that is also the hard thing about being a grown-up.

I mean,

we're going to have to do a whole episode on friendship and what the hell it is and how we all do it or don't do it, because I have always been

just freaking terrible at it.

I don't get it.

I think it's because you and I have been kind of everything to each other since we were born, right?

So we haven't relied on

outside people to,

I don't know, why do you think that

I'm so bad at?

It's like when I meet someone,

first of all, as a sensitive person,

I'm just hyper aware of everything they're doing and saying and everything I'm feeling and all of the things.

But also it feels like when you start a friendship, you're, you're signing a contract or something.

Like, like the person's going to, we're going to start texting and then that's going to lead to emailing and then that's going to lead to invitations.

And then I'm going to be in this situation where I've lost complete control of my life.

And this person's going to expect things of me that I can't do.

And I'm going to end up disappointing someone.

As an introvert, I always feel like I'm going to end up disappointing someone.

That makes sense to me.

I think it's based on what people

need.

I mean, you, when you have.

With your friendships, what you need is someone who you have a deep soul alignment with, who you feel understood and can understand and that you trust deeply.

And that person can be your very close friend and you can talk to them once every year and a half.

And that fills your bucket up completely.

Yes.

Whereas other people,

that is not

their love language.

Like they need the togetherness, the constant contact, the fun together, the whatever fills up their bucket.

And when you don't have an alignment of those things,

it's just

some one person hustling to meet the, to fill up the other person's bucket.

but you're that's why you and liz are so beautiful together because that's how you operate and so i think it's just a difference in what people are looking for but when i was leaving naples some

this small group of friends that i had made that i didn't spend a lot of time with actually but i did love they were all so wonderful and i was leaving and i had this deep regret feeling of like why didn't i spend more time with these people

why

like they were right here and they're so awesome.

And I didn't spend.

So what I'm trying to tell you is that I am going to be a new woman here.

That's my goal.

Like I want to spend the next decade now that my kids are older figuring out friendship.

You heard it here, folks.

Heard it here first.

Glenn's going to be a new woman.

Get ready.

She's texting all y'all back.

Well, no, it starts now.

No, no, no, no, no.

That's scary.

But, but we decided we're going to say yes to everything.

Craig actually knows someone here.

And we saw this person while we were on a family walk the other day.

And this person invited us to this thing this weekend, which I believe is like a get-together where people are just going to like get together.

Get together?

Whoa.

California is wild.

I know.

And

the woman who was so nice and open said, would you all like to come?

And guess what I said, sister?

I said, yes.

We are going to be the yes family of the next several months.

Anyone, we're just going to say yes to anything the universe invites us to.

And we're going to try to make friends.

And I'm really, I'm really excited.

Okay.

I want you, listener, and me to begin the countdown to the point in

an episode, three episodes from now, in which Glenn turns from the yes person to the yes, but please give me your phone number so I can regretfully cancel on the day of.

Right, exactly.

Well, usually when I make a plan, then I just feel like it's a game of chicken that I'm hoping the other person cancels first.

So I wait, hope, because if the other person cancels, it's so ideal because then you don't look like the flaky one who canceled.

You can be so gracious that they canceled, you know, oh, disappointed, but it's okay.

And it's just so ideal, you know?

So what I'm saying, sister, is that I do want to have friendship in my life.

And

I am going to try because we can do our best.

Great.

Thank you.

Great.

New state, new chapter.

Here we go.

Friendship.

Here we go.

Giving it an old college try.

What could go wrong?

What could go wrong?

Okay.

So here's what we're going to do now.

We have

so many amazing questions after our

conversation this week on parenting.

I mean,

When I tell you that we had thousands of thousands of questions through our Instagram and also through our voicemails, I would not be exaggerating.

It was absolutely amazing.

So we are going to get to a few more of them today during our hard cues.

Does that sound good?

It sounds great.

And I think that

who knows if we will have answers to any of these, but I think it's just, it was just astounding how many hundreds of

questions came in that were the exact same story.

And I think it's just for

listening to understand that we are all

having very similar experiences.

And it's, and I think it's just, who knows if we have answers, but telling the story might make sure that you don't feel alone in your story.

Yeah.

When you were talking, I just thought of this old poem that's like, I thought it was I alone who suffered.

And then I climbed on my roof and saw that every house is on fire.

Like

that's parenting.

Like, right.

Nobody's alone.

Every damn house is on fire.

And so, yeah, we don't have answers.

I mean, we,

I just got a letter from my friend Karen when I moved from Naples and the back of it said, thank you for being a curious listener.

Thank you for never offering directions to places you've never been.

Oh

my God, that's good.

Because you always use it on other people and you don't accept directions, but you also do such a good job of not offering directions because you've never been where these people are going.

That's beautiful.

So if I'm just saying to you, sweet listener, if it feels like we're not answering the questions directly, that's because we're not answering the questions directly.

Because we don't really have any answers.

We just have, you know, solidarity.

Right.

Right.

Okay.

So let's go.

Let's hear our first question.

Okay.

This first question is a righted, which is my favorite.

How many Disney movies a day is too many?

Oh, bless you.

How many Disney movies?

Okay, well, the specificity of the Disney movie reference requires me to interject.

First of all, if it's a Disney movie, you must make sure that you're telling your little one, okay, little little one, we do not sacrifice our voices for princes, okay?

We do not fall asleep for years and be unconscious, waiting for some prince to kiss us awake.

Okay, so we do make sure that we,

you know, are challenging old, ridiculous messages in the Disney movies.

Having said that,

I have big feelings about screen time, sister.

And I think that

maybe any real parenting experts who are listening

might blow up our feed after this, but I'm going to tell you something.

I feel like most of my angst raising little kids was about freaking screen time.

I mean, it was like this idea that a good parent had limited screen time and a bad parent had lots of screen time.

And that was like the main indicator.

And like all day when I was just dripping with children and like trying to keep everyone occupied, there was this running shame voice in my head.

Like, how many hours has it been?

How many minutes has it been?

And

I don't know.

I just put so much guilt upon myself for how long they were watching TV.

Then I started thinking about

what that is all about.

And I think there's some part of it that is

our culture's obsession with constant productivity and no rest.

It's like when we see people resting, especially our children who we are supposed to be responsible for molding, we feel shame because our culture teaches us that rest is shameful.

Right.

But when I think about, when I think back actually, sister, to my best memories of childhood,

my, and this could be because of my home bodiness and my obsession with coziness, but my best memories are, do you remember on Thursday nights when we used to actually be able to sit down on the couch and watch family ties?

And just that's why we quit gymnastics.

Yes, because it was on Thursday nights.

Yes, we were not ready to give up our one freaking half hour of sitting there.

Like snuggling up with your family or yourself and like being on the couch and watching TV is so

wonderful.

It is.

It is.

It is.

And that's, I think, the, I mean, I, I love the question because it's the difference between like, if you're on a tablet 24 hours a day or if you're not.

Yeah, that's a different thing.

Right.

Please see my child playing God knows what on whatever terrible video game it is.

But the, it feels wholesome, the movie nights, the TV nights.

It feels like, look at us.

We're basically doing an activity.

Oh my God.

Haven't you gotten to that point?

Like the screen time, the individual screen time has become so intense that now if my whole family is watching TV together, I'm like, oh my God, this is a freaking Norman Rockwell moment.

Like we are, this is a plus parenting.

We are basically camping in a national park right now.

Oh my God, this is a shared experience of love and joy.

And by the way, I'm going to say this one thing.

I like doing things with the kids.

I like adventures, yada, yada.

But my favorite family moments are

when we are all in a row staring at something and not talking.

And

when it's a screen, that's helpful.

Like when we are snuggled together, no one is talking to each other and we are all together.

I love that.

I love when no one is talking to each other.

So I don't know.

So the answer is none.

No, no, no, no.

None is too many.

No, opposite of that.

Wait.

There is no such thing as too many movies with togetherness and family time.

Also, you heard it here.

You heard it first.

Watch them.

And then if you watch like a documentary, forget it.

That's like your, that counts as reading time too.

Right.

Right.

Think, you know what you can do if you're worried about reading time and teaching your children, just turn on the closed captions.

Excellent reading activity.

We read for eight hours.

Oh, my God.

And then, you know, they yell for a snack.

And you give them an apple.

That's freaking health class, basically, you know?

And then they have to figure out the remote technology.

STEM.

STEM.

You're basically creating a STEM genius.

So

you heard it from the sisters here.

We can do easy things like lots of movies incorporating the curriculum into that capsule.

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Okay,

next

question.

This is a call in.

So yeah, my name is Alexandra.

I am sitting here calling you

Racking My Baby.

I guess I have a question about

my baby and parenthood.

I'm wondering if y'all have advice on navigating

some of the transitions

with identity when it comes to becoming a new parent.

I've just been sort of blindsided by how quickly I feel like my priorities

have shifted and how the impact that becoming a mother has had in my relationship with my friends and with my my husband and with my own parents and my siblings.

So I guess if you have any thoughts on how to navigate

being a new parent and

understanding identity shifts, that would be really great.

I love your show and I hope you guys are doing okay.

Bye.

Okay, well, I want to start by saying navigating is probably not the right word.

Like navigating is when I think of a boat and you're holding like a map and the weather is fine and you're like, which way should we go?

I'm going to plan this trip.

But

she said she was rocking a baby, okay, which means she just had a baby.

So your boat,

there's a large storm.

A large storm has come.

Okay.

A very large storm.

And you're a captain of that boat.

And so the map is gone.

Like you're not right now deciding which way to go, planning a route.

Okay.

You're when the baby comes, the storm is up ruin.

And you're the hatches, people.

That

the freaking hatches.

Like you're not like, oh, how do I navigate my friendships?

How do I navigate my relationship with your,

your friends are dead to you.

Your mom's dead to you.

This is not no.

Okay.

This is storm level.

It's like emergency time, right?

It's like fog of war.

I remember when

that was the most helpful.

One of my friends, like three weeks in, texted me and was like,

how is it going in the fog of war?

And it was so liberating because it really truly feels like you're in a war zone and you're just like, you're like army crawling through the day.

And, and I think, I think if we just set it up like that, then people would feel less

ashamed of the very logical consequences of war.

But Alexander just put all those words together.

I mean, Alexandra is an overachiever.

Guess who shouldn't, guess who doesn't need an answer from us?

Alexandra.

Lord have mercy.

Yeah, Alexandra, you with all of those fancy sentences

and words that make sense are crushing it.

Okay.

I really, but for everyone else who was more like us and not putting together sentences at at the beginning.

I mean, you know, we talk a lot about identity and keeping ourselves.

And, you know, that's what Untamed was all about.

And I just don't think any of it applies to new parents.

Like, I don't think you can have nice things with you.

You can't have nice things like an identity and peace.

It's just survival mode.

So I think one thing you can do

is release the desire, release the need for that.

And just know that during this time,

it is a bit of a time outside of time, right?

Yeah.

And you don't have to be terrified that you're never, ever going to get yourself back.

You will.

If you're already thinking about getting yourself back when you have an infant, that's coming.

Okay.

So there will be a time when once again, you're trying to find your soul, you know, separate from this role that you've just taken on.

But for now, Alexandra, just go easy.

Go easy on you.

The war will pass.

The storm will pass.

You once again will be navigating your own life.

So true.

And when you think about it, how many times does someone start?

You start a brand new big job, right?

You just got a big promotion.

You start a brand new job.

People lead with, oh, have you seen, you know, Mark lately?

No, he just got a brand new position.

He's really over.

Like, Mark isn't worried about his, his identity and navigating his relationship.

Mark just got a brand new, really big ass job.

Okay.

So did you, Alexandra.

You just, you just keep on keeping on through that job and you'll come back.

You'll come back.

Be like Mark.

Be like Mark.

I wish you got paid like Mark.

Yeah, guys.

Do I?

Damn it to hell, Mark.

Okay.

This is a write-in.

Glennon, did you ever feel guilty for just wanting to be alone sometimes?

Oh, God.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

okay, I just, this is, this is a story I want to tell about this.

It's quick, I promise.

But

I was doing

Dr.

Brene Brown's podcast early in the untamed days when it first came out.

And we were talking about this ridiculous situation we find ourselves in in parenting where we are still human beings who have needs, but like suddenly no one cares.

Right?

NA, not applicable, not applicable.

Your needs and personality and none of that matters.

Right.

And Brene was talking about this situation where she had just come home from this long business trip.

Okay.

And she was freaking exhausted.

She was freaking exhausted, but she got home.

And that night, one of her kids had this school event.

And she felt, She just felt like she could not go

because she was so desperate for some alone time.

I'm sure she gets mobbed at those things.

Exactly.

Of course, she does.

And she just needed a minute.

But of course, the mom guilt of like, oh, I've already been gone.

And now I'm going to tell my kid that I can't go to a school thing.

I've probably missed three things this week.

And now I'm here.

But she, her, her, her need was so desperate that she just did it.

She said to her son, I'm so sorry.

Like, I can't go to that thing.

I have, I need some alone time.

Right.

Okay.

A week later, her kid, there was something that he was supposed to go to for school.

And he said, no, I'm not going to go.

I can't go.

I don't want to go.

He came to her and told her a story about how he feels like he's an introverted person.

And sometimes he feels like there's no space for him in the world, that he has to go to all of these things, or he's being mean, or he's being antisocial, or he's being whatever.

He didn't know that you got to say, no, I have needs.

I need alone time.

He didn't know that until Brene did it, until Brene modeled it for him.

And her saying, no, I'm not going to her own kids' thing allowed him the freedom to say, oh, I see.

We are human beings who have needs and personalities and we get to assert them.

We get to say no.

So I would just say to that caller, like, or that write-in,

maybe switch it.

Like instead of saying, oh, I have this need that is going to take away from my child, like it's a zero-sum game.

It's like, no, I have this need and I need to show it to my child.

So my child knows that whatever needs they have, they get to get met also.

That's so good.

Cause same, same

with every other need.

Yes.

If you need to cry in this moment because you're so overwhelmed, I'll do that sometimes where I'll just, I used to try to keep it in.

And then I'll just like.

get super upset and I'll just say, I'm having a really rough time right now.

It's not you guys.

it's just I'm having a really rough time.

And I'll, it's, it's just for any need that you're modeling, then they don't have to be secretive about their own needs or feel like there's something wrong with them.

Yes, good.

So then one day when Bobby or Alice is feeling overwhelmed and they just need to break down, they get to because they've seen their mom have that freedom and they get to have that freedom too without shame.

So, um, yeah, that's my answer to that sweet.

Just be alone, talk about your need to be alone in front of your kids.

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Here's another write-in.

Glennon, why do they just keep talking?

Oh, my God.

Because we taught them that.

We steered them so wrong.

This is my thought about that.

So when I was growing up, I felt we all had different

parents.

Our parents were raising us in different generations.

Okay.

Right.

So I always had this feeling that there was not enough room for me to speak or to have big feelings.

Right.

As a kid.

So in

response, because so many of us are just parenting in response, right?

Everything that our parents did, we're just doing the opposite.

Okay.

So here's what happens when that's the way we parent.

I taught my children to express every freaking thing

that comes to their freaking minds, to talk about every feeling that they have.

And sometimes, sister, you know this.

Sometimes I'm listening.

I'm looking at my child who has been speaking at me for two hours about their feelings.

It's like a hostage situation, right?

And I'm just looking at them thinking, oh, I have done you so wrong.

Like I should have taught you

the benefits of suffering silently.

I have over corrected.

And now you think that everybody cares about every single thing that you think or feel or what.

So

I still prefer that to not having enough room.

And I think in the long run, it works out.

But it's just this idea that we're really just like pendulum parenting.

Actually, we should do a whole episode about that.

Just this idea that we're pendulum parenting, that whatever childhood trauma we have, we just go the absolute opposite and just screw them up the other way.

Yes.

That's exactly right.

Kind of like how we were like,

there was very, we knew what we were supposed to do and what we weren't supposed to do.

And there was a lot of discipline in our house.

And I feel like I go the opposite way where I'm like, like, well, I know, I realize why this would be so frustrating to you.

And I know it's so, and then I'm like, uh-oh, I accidentally made assholes.

So it, because I'm just so, I don't want the like hyper disciplined environment.

Yeah.

And it's going completely the other way.

And it's so fascinating because if you really, I know this is off the talking concept, but I was talking to my friend who also had a very disciplined household, and she was like one of very many children.

She, they all, the, it was all like work ethic,

um, taking care of yourself, taking care of the family.

So, at six years old, she's, she is baking

the entire family's bread consumption for the week.

They literally had the chickens, she's baking for the family.

Very, so, needless to say, she's a very self-sufficient person, has been through a lot.

So, we were talking recently about, you know,

we did,

we've learned to take care of ourselves so much.

And

we were, we're growing up raising these kids who are going to have other people tying their shoes until they graduate from college because

we're just handing them everything in response to that.

Correct.

And I was like, I just don't know.

They're just going to, are they ever going to get a job?

And she's like, you know what?

I don't know if that's true.

She's like, we tell ourselves that, but is that true?

And can we just, might they just be happy?

And is that okay?

And it made me think of this idea that sometimes we reframe our

things that we've been through, our difficulties, and we create this like causal link between those difficulties and our strength now

to make sense of it, right?

To say it's because of that that we're like this.

But it's just super interesting to think,

is that always the case?

And do we actually,

does the pendulum, because there's always this guilt, right?

The same thing with the, now my kids have no discipline and I have this guilt because they're not gonna have the self-discipline I have.

Like, is that true?

Or is it that we just

Is it that we just create a story about the stories of our life and about how we came out and that they're not everything, and we're raising our kids, and not everything our kids are need to be in response to our own stories and our own experiences.

Yeah, that's so true.

It's like we're creating the pendulum out of air.

Like, maybe the stories aren't really at all.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Cool.

But yes, they talk way too much.

Okay, here's a call in.

My name is Allie.

First of all, hello to Glenn and sister in the pod squad.

I'm just curious, after hearing you guys talk about drinking and both of your relationships with it, how both or either of you approach it with your children and as especially your children who are like in high school or going into college.

That's a really interesting topic for me that I feel like isn't covered a lot in most substance podcasts or talks.

Thank you guys so much.

This is a tricky one.

I have no,

you know, like black and white answers for this because for us, it's talking about alcohol has been kind of like talking about sex.

Like we just do it often, but like poorly.

You do sex.

You do sex often and poorly?

No, we don't.

We don't.

No, we just do sex poorly.

But the sex talks is what I'm saying.

Like it's not like a one-time thing.

It's just like this ongoing attempt

to

basically when I'm talking about alcohol or sex with my kids, I'm not really trying to deliver any information.

I'm really not.

I'm just trying to make the actual topic less terrible and awkward to talk about.

Does that make sense?

Because I never know exactly.

I mean, sex is a freaking quagmire of confusion for me.

So it's, it's, it's not like, it's not like I have any expertise I'd like to share.

You're like, would you like broccoli or carrots tonight?

Volvo.

Anyway.

And P.S.

I think, so the kids now are like, whatever, mid-teens to older teens.

It's just starting to become less terribly awkward to talk about.

And I've been trying

for so many years.

Anyway, she's talking about alcohol.

Okay.

My kids know everything about my

alcoholism, not every detail, but they do know that their mom started drinking very, very early and that it became addicted to alcohol and that it deeply negatively affected my life for a very long time until I quit.

And that Abby and I are a sober family, right?

So they don't see alcohol in our house.

We're not,

we have no alcohol.

And they also know that they have

likely a gene

that

might make them more susceptible to becoming addicted to alcohol should they allow it to become part of their life.

Okay.

So I would say that I don't know in the long run how that will affect them.

I don't know if they will be drinkers.

I don't know if they will be sober.

I don't know any of that.

I don't know how it's going to affect them in the long run.

I just know that they do have the information that they need.

And I'm trying to

just kind of make sure that they know the truth about that.

What do you, you have much younger kids.

What do you plan to, or do you already talk about?

We just talk about, I mean, they're, they know what wine is.

They know what beer is.

They know they, they, they did ask when I stopped drinking.

They asked, well, why did you stop drinking?

And if there was a reason for you to stop, why does daddy still drink?

So, you know, there obviously noticed things.

And I just said, I,

I stopped drinking because

I

was concerned that there was, that I could possibly become addicted to drinking.

And addicted to drinking means that you, um, that it controls you instead of you controlling it.

And daddy does not

have the same fear or concerns about

being addicted.

And that, and I just say drinking is, you know, having some alcohol is fine when you start to feel out of control.

It isn't, but it's fine for some people and not fine for other people.

So we don't, we haven't talked to them about their predisposition to this yet, but we just kind of talk about it regularly.

Yeah.

And in that way.

And it's interesting when there's one parent that drinks alcohol and the other one that doesn't.

You have to be very careful, we have found, not to assign moral value to deciding not to drink or to drink, right?

Because if you are sober family, you know, if Abby and I are sober, the kids as young, I was afraid that they would start to think, oh, not drinking good,

drinking bad, because Craig has beers, right?

So I did notice that, you know, one of my kids would start to make comments about people who were drinking like they were making bad choices, even if they were adults.

You know, so I had to kind of get in there there with that.

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Such amazing cues.

I think that this parenting Q ⁇ A or Q and more cues.

Q and Q.

Q and S, Q and solidarity.

Yes.

But we want to end our second, our episode two a week with something that is making life easier, right?

Because we can do hard things, but sometimes we just need a little ease and joy.

So I have a couple things.

Can I start this one?

Yes.

I don't know if you have anything that's making life easier, but I have two things.

Okay.

The first thing is

this show

that I can't tell you.

I love it so much.

Our, my whole family loves it.

We've been just inhaling it and it's called Hacks.

Okay.

Oh my gosh, you've been tweeting about this.

Oh my God, I cannot stand it.

It's with Gene Smart, who is just so freaking brilliant in it.

And it's about this older woman comedian and younger woman comedian and how their lives intertwine.

And it's just, it's, it's feminist, but it's like, and it end, it's full of heart and the writing is incredible and the messages are so good and our whole family has been watching it together there's a few spicy parts that we had to you know like sweat through with the children so just know that

um they'll have they'll start some good sex and drug talks actually if you would like to jump start those conversations

the movie night is so good right

look at that it's like a freaking after school after school special you can just yeah but i just think it's special i think it's it's so different but it reminds me of like the ted Lasso of this year.

It's just full of heart.

It's like, if, if, if, it's like the, I don't know, hacks will make your life easier and better.

Um, okay.

And then there's this also amazing thing that people have been trying to get me to try for ages.

And I kind of have this like sneaking suspicion that every single day that it will change my life if I do it.

And, um, and I still don't do it ever.

Um, because there's so many things it could be.

As you're leading up, I'm like, there's like, what do you think?

Take a guess.

What could it be?

Okay.

So

it's this idea that all of these health nut people are always telling me to do.

And it's, it's called drinking water.

Oh, yeah.

That's very on trend.

It's, it's like water is like, it's like if you took a coffee, but then you filtered out the coffee, what would be left is called water.

And it's like this clear

thing,

liquid that um, I don't know, sporty people drink.

Where can you get it?

Where do you, where do you get yours?

I mean, there's different places, but like in my kitchen, I have this like thing that I just go

and it just pours out.

It just pours out.

I know, I know.

So, I've been drinking water and I've been trying for this is this, everyone's gonna get mad at me, but I'm just trying for two glasses a day at the beginning.

I know, sister, it's bad.

I'm serious, I don't drink water.

I'm a dehydrated prune.

Okay.

But I would like to so far extol the virtue, the life-changing virtue of water.

Like I feel better.

I feel better with just my two little glasses.

I'm going to go for three.

Okay.

So Jerry's still out on this, people, but Glennon has a hunch.

Water, good.

Yes.

It makes me feel better.

Okay.

So I feel like I could, I just, after I drink a glass of water, I feel like I'm one of those health gurus.

Like I should be an influencer.

I should be a health influencer.

Did you get sponsored by water?

I know.

Okay.

So we can do hard things, but we can also do easy things.

We can

watch hacks.

And by the way, I don't like know them or like, I'm not, I don't have any affiliation with hacks.

They're going to write to us and be like, please stop invoking our show and your show.

And drink a glass of freaking water.

Okay.

Every time I think, I'm a big thinker.

I'm a big, I have big feelings.

I get really overwhelmed.

Okay.

And so at least once a day, I think

I have to have, I have to have a new life.

I have to like quit my job.

I have to have a new state.

I have to move.

I have to have a new family.

I have to have a new religion.

I have to have new friends.

I hate everything.

I need all of these big things.

And what I think I really need is just a glass of water.

Yeah.

Right.

Like when the big feelings come,

think small.

Drink a glass of water.

We love you so much.

We can do hard things, but let's also try easier.

All right, we'll see you next week.

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