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So there's probably almost no other stunt that you're afraid of.

Oh, no, there's one that I'm highly intimidated by.

That'll be my final thing.

Well, let's rephrase that.

Let's rephrase that.

Welcome back to Everybody Knows Your Name with me, Ted Danson, and Woody Harrelson, sometimes.

Today we're with a close friend of Woody's, the world-renowned magician David Blaine.

If you've seen David's stuff, I don't need to convince you that he's one of our greatest living entertainers.

For decades, he's performed some of the most unbelievable feats known to man.

From his famous street magic to death-defined stunts like catching a bullet.

in his mouth or standing in a block of ice for days in Times Square.

Still, he finds new ways to amaze us.

I loved meeting David through Woody.

I went into this intimidated by his powers, but he just bowled me over with his humility and his warmth.

Just see for yourself.

The amazing David Blaine.

Well, thank you for having me, Ted and Woody.

Thank you.

My jaw is dropping because we just watched you do a lot of your stuff, and the entire studio is in awe.

You said you saw somebody

in a train station or a subway or something when you were four doing magic.

Yeah, well, I grew up in Brooklyn with a single mother and she was always trying to take me to things like museums, libraries, Coney Island.

And so often I would see street performers like guys doing rope tricks or the sword swallowers in Coney Island.

And I think just my fascination began early on.

And then I...

I think just having a deck of cards at the age of four or five and holding it every day.

And one day a librarian walked me through a very simple, self-working mathematical trick.

And I performed it to my mother.

And she went to this day, my favorite reaction of all time.

You know, every time I did a trick to my mom, it was like, I decided, so I became kind of in love with the concept of getting people to react.

And magic was the best way.

And so slowly I tried to understand how to, how to make it stronger and stronger.

And what I realized was like, less is more.

The less there is of me, the more there is of the person that I'm doing magic to.

I'm jumping a little bit because I also know that later on you went to the neighborhood playhouse, which is in Sandy Meisner technique.

Yes.

Which is a little bit of what you just said.

Don't do anything until someone else makes you do it.

It's about the other person.

That's right.

Or living truthfully in a given imaginary circumstance, which was like pasted on the wall.

And my teacher, Richard Pinter, who was amazing, had me stand up on stage because there was no means for a close-up magician to make a living.

So I was like, okay, well, Orson Welles had this quote: a magician is an actor playing the part of the magician.

So let me see how far I could push it.

And I was doing a trick on stage and I was reading the pattern of the trick.

And the patter of the trick is ridiculous.

It's like very wordy.

And it was like, really.

And the teacher, Richard, said, really read that.

And I kind of stopped because I was alone on stage.

And I actually read the script and it was so silly that I started laughing hysterically.

And Woody, that's something me and Woody do all the time: we laugh into tears.

So I was laughing.

And the more I would laugh, the more I'd try to read it, the harder I would laugh.

And I had snot coming out of my nose, tears out of my eyes.

And when I finally was done, Richard said, Look at everybody.

And everybody was on the floor, kicking their legs, laughing hysterically.

And that's when I understood that, like, you don't need the pattern and less is bored.

And trying to be honest, honest, which is ironic, in magic makes it that much more effective.

So it was that, that was like a pivotal moment for.

But I never even knew that you went to the, the, yeah, that playhouse.

And yeah, so you, but you were thinking to become an actor, possibly.

Well, there was no means for magic.

So I was like, what do I do?

Entertainment is my thing.

So I,

yeah, it, but I got lucky because I was invited at that point to go on to Jon Stewart's first pilot of his first show.

And I did a magic trick and that was kind of the beginning.

So it kind of paved the way for what I actually did my whole life.

I didn't know that.

That's what started it.

Yeah, but I would say.

And what was the trick?

On Jon Stewart.

Yeah.

I hammered it.

It's terrible, by the way, because it was my first thing.

My second thing was with Conan, by the way, my second public author.

Yeah.

And that was where it worked.

But I tried to force a card.

First of of all, I just wanted to do the card tricks, but the producers of John's show said, no, no, you have to do something bigger.

So I was like, what could I do?

So I was like, okay, I'll come up with something bigger.

And I force a card.

They take the card.

John took, I think, the seven of hearts or something or seven of diamonds.

And then I hammer a nail into my nose, which I just learned.

And then when I pull it out, it starts bleeding.

And then it says seven of diamonds or hearts or whatever on my shirt.

So it was, it was, it was terrible, but it was the beginning of kind of mixing real things with magic tricks.

So,

and I got lucky because after that, you know, I was doing this this illusion trick that I tried to do to you 30 years ago, the levitation.

And

so when I, when I, when I put that on TV,

years after I did it to you, but when I put it on TV, YouTube just started exposing all the secrets or Google.

So it was, it was immediately revealed everywhere about how the levitation trick works.

And it was like an on-the-fly thing that I used to do.

And it kind of led me towards the realization that in order to do things that are

more interesting

when revealed, the behind the scenes of it has to be much more compelling.

So the method of something has to be more interesting than what they're seeing almost based on information becoming so available to everybody.

And when I did the levitation too, I used to floor everybody with it unless they knew magic.

And I did it to Woody.

He's like, I know what you did.

That was the beginning of our friendship.

That's right.

Yeah.

What does Google do to you when you, you know, hold your breath or freeze your

stuck on that, Google?

No, but no, no, but, but still, it was funny because being a magician, every, all of the,

all of the, you know, Google, YouTube, all the outlets were revealing, saying, oh, I had secret tubes.

I had this.

So I was basically pushing my body to the breaking point.

But because I'm a magician, nobody believed any of it.

They all thought it was a trick.

And it started to go away.

But then

reflecting back, I realized that that was a lucky thing because if it was just what it seemed, if they were like, oh, he's holding his breath, it's not as interesting as what's the secret technique to what he's doing.

So it's almost like, it's almost like that kind of, you know, question mark made it more entertaining.

did you play sports because you are incredibly athletic obviously no i wasn't a good athlete but i i was good at endurance so i did play sport i moved from brooklyn to new jersey and and when i was 10 i started playing baseball and i wasn't good at the actual space i was born my feet turned in i had asthma and all that stuff but what i started to realize is that i could endure more than than everybody.

So even in baseball, we'd have to run and it would be long distance run, you know, around the field when anybody would do something wrong.

And that was easy for me.

So I was able to kind of early on just push the extreme.

And then I would wear like a t-shirt all winter when it was really cold.

And I would just, I kind of developed a resistance and an ability to endure things.

Purposely?

Not with a plan, but yeah, purposely.

Just, you know what it was to like toughen myself up.

like to be to be good at something.

And what about the lack of sleep thing?

When did you

terrible at that?

I've been experimenting with that, but I'm terrible at it.

You know, you've seen me.

I fall asleep in the middle of meetings.

As soon as I like, I'm near bed, I'm out.

But you have done like...

Yeah.

I mean, I've done like

when you stood on top of the thing for seven and a half something hours.

Yeah.

Describe it.

And you said you were having...

What was that called again?

The

sleep deprivation?

No, but the name of the vertigo vertigo yeah when i stood on the pillar and the buildings behind me started to look like animal heads and everything yeah that was crazy

but basically i think the hallucinations kick in from sleep deprivation no food dehydration as well and then the hallucinations come quickly because your brain's trying to get you out of that situation so it tries to fool you and uh

yeah you came and helped me when i was in electricity when i started to hallucinate and you talked me through it a little bit.

And that's when that's when you need really close people that can kind of guide you or tell you it's okay.

And then I want to do no water.

And you were like, you need to take water.

And you were right because

once it starts to go bad, it just gets worse.

Wait,

describe that moment between the two of you.

I don't quite understand.

Well, you know, he does things that, you know, it's like

it's a mixed bag having him as a good buddy because he does things that I really seriously worry like a mother.

You know, like, I'm like, I can't believe you're doing this, dude.

Don't do it.

You know, but that one scared me because you're up there with all that.

Well, you, you, I was standing with the 75-pound chainmail suit, and

I was standing within.

seven Tesla coils that were zapping me the whole time.

And what happened was my, the first thing is your, your feet start to expand.

So it's edema.

So they start to swell and it ripped through the chainmail and then nobody could come up there.

And I started to get shocked through the bottom of my, you know, openings where, where my ankles were.

And then

the catheter, the, you know, I usually have a trucker's tube, which I use, but that was a whole nightmare situation because of the O3 that was being released by all the testicles.

They were pumping air up so I wouldn't breathe the O3 because it's a silent death.

You don't even know.

So every time I'd go to the bathroom, the air would do this.

So I was like, okay, I'm done drinking water.

I'm not going to drink anymore.

But then the hallucin, the hallucination, the hallucinations became awful.

And that's when Woody was there and he was talking me through it.

And he's like, you're drinking water.

And so they lowered the coils enough.

And my doctor came up and they kind of sealed the legs, which was good.

So now I was semi-okay.

but then I was drinking electrolyte water through a tube.

And when I spit it out, it hit a coil and the coil went right inside.

And I think it bruised my heart wall.

And

I think it did some pretty good damage to me, actually.

And your best friend here is laughing.

Because

he's getting damage every direction all the time.

I just dislocated my shoulder.

But that's got to be a pretty serious one, you know, getting a million volts into your intestines.

Yeah, that was a big one.

That was a big one.

So it is.

Obviously, because you're not an idiot, you have doctors, scientists, people going.

Yes.

But they're always so over the top of their caution that that almost becomes a danger.

So there's a balance.

You know, there's, there's, there's, there's one part of it that's like you need to explore very diligently, very carefully with the best team, which I always do.

So I never just jump into something.

First, I have to see proof of concept on some level, and then I have to see somebody do it successfully, successfully, even if it's not as far.

And they say, oh, can I endure the same thing?

And then slowly I test it and have a team of experts around me.

I never just do it alone in a way that like I can suddenly kill myself.

So, and that's something that's important to me.

And obviously, I have a daughter.

I don't want anything bad to happen.

And I don't want kids to ever copy and just think, oh, he just does these things.

So I really do have, have, and luckily, when I do any of these things, I have the most incredible team surrounding me.

Right.

I saw also you trained with the Navy SEAL.

So was that,

because they're all about endurance and not letting their mind tell them, oh, no, it's too cold.

I'm too tired.

That's right.

Yeah.

And that's great.

All of those things where you push yourself, just where you, where you build up the ability to just keep pushing yourself a little bit further and a little bit further all add up when you're doing a breath hold or anything.

Right.

And were you David Blaine then?

So they said yes, or did, how did that come?

Because not everyone can go train with Navy SEALs.

No, but I think they, once they saw that I can hold my breath, then it became, you know, they were happy to help, I think.

Because I was pushing, I was doing seven plus minutes, just straight breath holding before I even started with them.

So I was doing good.

Yeah, you know, I was with them one time and I like.

I did a thing.

We were at a pool.

I forget whose house it was.

And then you probably don't remember this.

But anyway, like I went like down and back and like maybe back again.

Like it was quite a feat.

Yes, I believe.

You know, and everybody's like, yeah, yeah.

And he's like, listen, I bet you I could do, you know, you did three links.

I say I could do

five.

Five.

And then I'm looking at him like this fucking guy.

I am not better.

He says, yeah, I bet I can do six.

And I'm like, geez, is he out of his mind?

Seven.

He says I could do eight.

I remember.

And I'm like, I remember that.

No, I'm not doing the bet.

I'm not doing the bet.

But of course, you know, I didn't

even know that you could do the breath hold.

You'd never brought it up or shown it or anything.

You must be Woody's most frustrating friend because you are competitive, Woody.

You just want to try to.

Yeah, we compete.

What do you owe me?

$200,000 from the bank game?

Oh, you also owe me like $600.

So, so when I, one time I was with Woody and he said, I got to do this jump off of this cliff.

He says, I got to go do this jump.

So I'm like, okay, great.

So I was training for vertigo at the time.

So I was jumping into cardboard boxes repetitively.

And I watched him do a,

I think a two and a half, right?

Or it was a brain.

I think it was a brandy.

It was one and a half with a full twist.

Right.

One and and a half with a full twist and he landed straight on his face if i had had another foot you would have been i'd have been good yeah that's probably true but he landed right on his face both eyes bulged out blood was coming out of his nose it it looked like i mean it was it was so disturbing yeah so i'm like i ran and got ice and i'm putting ice on him and everybody comes like we're gonna call a doctor.

He's like, I'm not doing a doctor.

I'm going to fix this myself, right?

And no, no, by the way, sorry, one eye was bulged out, the other was just black and blue.

So, what he did is he, as he's trying to fix out, he blows through his nose, and the other eye just bulges out.

So, now both eyes are like this, and he can't see.

He's like looking through this little slit.

And, and I'm sitting with him because I'm just like disturbed, but also taking care, trying to take care of him.

And I had just gotten whiplashed from a jump.

So I was sitting there and

he says this to me, looks up.

He can't see.

He's like,

he goes, I got to fucking do it again.

And he can't see.

He has no eyes.

And he climbs back up to the top

and does the fucking flip and lands it perfectly.

And he's like, if I didn't do it, I'd be afraid of it.

So I had to do it.

And then he was fine.

Then we iced and, you know, his eyes were sealed shut probably for a while but uh that's when i realized that no he's insane like i i would wait i would do it again but like three months later yeah

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You were in ice for 63 hours at 2000 special, frozen in time.

Now, what inspired you to do that?

This is pretty, like, nobody had ever heard of, you know, well, no, I was buried alive before that.

So I was in a coffin for a week, but that was really easy to do.

And then I went on a

vacation kind of like a work thing.

And I remember I saw a bug in a piece of amber.

And I think that's when I was like, oh, that looks beautiful.

What if, what if I'm in ice?

And that was the beginning of it.

But I also spent winters walking with just a t-shirt.

And I was really good at, and I would always get into really cold ice baths and things like that.

So I was really good at that.

And I really liked it.

because I could push it.

I was so.

Can I ask without taking away the magic, the combination, real and magic, that

what allows the human body to be able to do that?

No, no, the ice wasn't pressed against me.

It was carved out a little bit.

It was basically like an igloo.

So it was really standing up the whole time with the cold air just radiating against my skin.

But it happened to be a warm November.

So it was the end of November.

It was supposed to be cold.

And because it was so warm, it kept dripping on me and it was like torture because the ice kept dripping.

But at the same time, the air that was blowing through was 68 degrees or so so it it made it semi-bearable and then the turning point happened at about hour 55 and just lights switched off and i was tripping out of my mind and it became the most terrific

endeavor to this day basically more difficult than 44 days with just water

which when I did that, he also did the same fast.

He had vegetable juice and things like that, but he did it with me.

So I did 44 days.

And

I think you did exactly 44 or more.

Yeah, well, not like you.

I didn't do 44 days water.

Remember, I was trying to get you, I was saying, well, why don't you just take a little bit of, you know, like something.

Yeah, like

blue-green algae or something to just kind of sustain.

No.

You would not do that.

I'm not taking any other.

That was just for the purity of it.

But luckily, I think the fact that I just had pure H2O, nothing, no minerals, nothing, my body went into starvation mode.

And I think that's probably what allowed me to recover, I think, fully for the most part.

So I feel like if I would have cheated, and my doctor, who was one of the top starvation experts in London,

he thought I was cheating the whole time, even though they were collecting my urine and doing all that stuff.

And when I came out and went to the hospital, he put me on the IV and

my phosphate levels went crazy

like that.

And I almost went into shock and could have died.

Then he was like, oh,

this is all real.

And so they started to collect real data, blood samples, everything.

And then he published a paper on the refeeding syndrome, which is after long starvation,

when...

when people are refed, that's the part where they can suddenly go into shock and die.

I mean,

during the fast as well but i'm saying yeah the refeeding part is the most delicate part i think wow i never thought but but is 44 days like a record of uh well on water

i just like the number 4-4 and no there's a lot no bobby sands lots of hunger strikers and people had done 66 days he died yeah but he went 66 days i believe in until he died but um but i used a lot of their i mean that's it you know you get the record, but there's a downside.

I also had a physiologist

who used to work at NASA and

he they searched real records and he found documented examples of people surviving 43 days to full recovery on just water.

So I was thinking if I bulk up, which I did, which messed me up to this day,

and then come in and have serious fat reserves, then that should help significantly.

And if I isolated my movements and I did it publicly, I've always been obsessed with fasting because every stunt was a fast.

The Buried Alive was a seven-day fast, but I had to fast before that for a week so I wouldn't go to the bathroom.

And I started to love fasting like you do.

And I started to realize that the reason monks and gurus and everybody does fasts is not to harm themselves.

I don't recommend it for anybody, but they do it because it does bring a different state of mind

that's incredible.

It changes your outlook.

And it cleanses cleanses the body exactly yeah me and joe are on a cleanse now day 10 uh juice really yeah juice and fruit adding the fruit really helps to do that yeah obviously it's great because it you know i never did that before i've always been too extreme but but now i add the fruit and you just juice it in your mouth back in whatever the

night early 1900s they called it fletcherizing but you just juice it in your mouth so it becomes just completely oh so you mean you're still chewing chewing it yeah i'm chewing it

because then your saliva the enzymes help break it down more efficiently that's great that's great but it works just as effectively so anyone who out there who's thinking of doing a juice fast think about adding the fruit and chewing and chewing it well yeah you got to really and also that so it does it's a multiple reasons why it's good because the the the fruit you know actually goes through your body and helps bring debris out so it's helping with the cleanse itself.

It's also getting you used to the concept of every time I want a, this is a concept I want you to imbibe.

Every time that I need a snack, let it be fruit.

You know, that's good.

You know, and so anyway, that's

kind of changes the mindset.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's great.

I should be asking both of you this, but I'm asking you, David, do you think that you

will know

when, oh, maybe I shouldn't do this,

this extreme anymore.

Or are you an addict?

You know,

so it's funny you ask that.

I always looked at my cutoff point is, I'm very superstitious,

which is part of the 44 days.

The 44 was

from a ridiculous point of view, it was my birthday's 4-4.

So I've always been obsessed with 4-4, which is eight.

But anyway, so

Harry Houdini, who's always been my favorite and my big inspiration for so many things, he died when he was 52 and he kept pushing his body and he stayed very fit.

He was just always, he was rock solid.

And he had done the water tank, collapsed on stage because he didn't want to disappoint the audience, even though he had severe stomach pains and then was rushed to the hospital and died.

So I always thought 52 should be...

that should be kind of the mark of you don't want to keep pushing to the point that you break.

So I was thinking, I have a few more years of pushing and then I'm going to shift to probably what people like seeing me do more, which is just magic and

bringing it to

hospitals and kids in hospitals and all that stuff, which I love doing.

And you get the best reactions and you feel the best after.

So, but I love the push.

So I love pushing myself, but I don't want to push myself to the point where you actually break.

What's the stunt

you wanted to do, but you just haven't done or you just thought was too extreme?

Well, that one that I was unable to do was sleep deprivation.

Oh, I was saying, sorry, I was saying that the idea of fasting

that started with buried alive

and it changed my brain in such an incredible way.

And then I did the ice, which was more fasting.

And then every stunt.

had fasting secretly as part of it.

And I was like, oh, I'm going to do something just about fasting.

But the other thing that the stunts had was sleep deprivation, deprivation, extreme sleep deprivation.

Because if you fell asleep in the ice and your face goes against the ice, your face would freeze and you get frostbite and be really bad.

And then when you peel it off, it's like,

yeah, then it's no good.

Your face peels off.

But so sleep deprivation, I started to play with.

But that one is

a tough one.

And that's why they do that when they torture people, try to get secrets out of them.

That's right.

And they don't recover.

The ones that were tortured in North Korea, the Americans that came back, it was the sleep deprivation that they could.

Because when the brain

slipped,

and

that's the scariest thing to me.

And

yeah, like you said,

it is the most effective form of torture, I think.

Yeah.

So, so I wanted to do sleep deprivation.

I was obsessed with it.

And the doctor who's the head of Stanford, who's like the top expert, his name, ironically, is Dr.

Dement.

And the guy and

the guy who tried to do it that was a radio DJ, his name was Peter Tripp.

And at the end of a week of sleep deprivation,

his brain didn't fully recover, apparently.

Yeah.

I don't think there's any upside to that particular stunt because, you know, first of all, people are like, oh, well, that's pretty cool.

Oh, he's gone seven days.

Really cool.

And then you never come back.

then you're gone you're like but what i did like about it was there was a guy a guy named randy gardner who dr dement documented and i think in the late 60s or mid 60s and um and i don't think anybody's broken it since but it was about 11 plus days of sleep deprivation and then when you think about 11 point i forget what the exact numbers but about 11 and a half days i believe is a million seconds so i got obsessed with the idea of a million seconds without sleeping because that that's just like a cool and then when i spoke to dr domain he said yeah but we're going to check for micro sleeps and i was like okay there's no way i'm going to do it because he that's a micro sleep and you fail so it's really hard to describe i don't know what you mean by micro sleep like as soon as you do that your brain goes out that's a micro sleep as soon as you

if your eyes just one second

yeah if your brain's not active i guess so

And plus, it's not worth the repercussion.

So that's the one that I,

the big one that I was into that I kept trying and just couldn't get there.

And so there's probably almost no other stunt that you're afraid of.

Oh, no, there's one that's that I'm highly intimidated by, but I'm working diligently on putting it together.

It'll be my final thing, secretive.

Well, let's rephrase that.

Let's rephrase that.

There's one that's a culmination of everything that I've ever done that I'm obsessed with, but it's a pretty over-the-top ambitious idea.

So I'm trying to put it together and it will be the, it'll be my last one.

Before you move on to card trick.

That's right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not my last one.

I'm going to die.

My last one before I do the

irony.

Yeah.

In his podcast, he said it.

I wanted to ask you about, you know, like of all the things that you've pulled off that most people thought impossible,

the one thing I thought might be impossible for you to pull off

fatherhood.

I knew this was coming.

I knew he was going to go there.

You are the best father of all time, dude.

You're such a great dad.

I just love how you are with Dessa.

It makes me so freaking happy to see you guys together.

I'm very lucky.

She's my best friend in the world.

And yeah, it's the greatest gift in life.

And

it's funny because when everybody shows you their kid pictures, until you have a kid, you don't understand.

But when you have a kid, you're like, look.

Like every screensaver on your phone, everything, that's it.

My greatest achievement is anything that she does.

You want to see magic?

Look.

Well, I mean, just watching, because earlier we watched a performance of Dessa that she did with her father in Vegas.

And

to see his pride over it at Raft afterward and hugging her, I mean, I started bawling.

It's so

first off, just astounding

her talent and how beautiful.

And, you know, out of the blue,

you know, during COVID, she learned how to do this.

But by having a daughter, I learned something that I never realized, which is the female brain versus the male brain.

So

overall, there's no way that I could ever focus like she does.

She'll do four hours of training, but no breaks.

If I'm watching, I have to beg her to take a sip of water.

If somebody walks in, it doesn't matter.

She's just like this.

And that's something that like you know i i think i could never i i could never ever ever not if my phone but i'm like wait a second i'll be ready you know or some if somebody walks in that's like a 10 minute but but but but when she trains and she just started training during covet it for her it's just all in no distractions and it's amazing to see so

when she

decided that she would would like to do something.

Yeah, it's a highlight.

It was the highlight of my career period.

And you know, the audience.

And it's her,

but there's nothing that I was more proud of ever.

When it's me, I'm like, oh, why'd I do that?

That sucked.

That was terrible.

But with her, I'm like, ah,

what?

Is there anything that you go, oh, shoot, I need to handle this in my life?

I just, I, you know, to me, you're like Superman.

I'm listening to all these things and the self-control.

No, no, that's specific to like that.

That, that's the thing is people say, oh, you could do this.

No, I'm good if like I have a specific thing and there's a window to it.

So if like, oh, I'm going to go 44 days with just water, then I understand the beginning and the end.

And then it becomes numbers and I, and I can relate to that.

Or if it's, I'm going to hold my breath for the record is this number.

I'm going to hold it for this length.

Then it's numbers and it's a numbers game.

And I break it down.

I first do half.

And then so if I'm holding my breath, let's say I was going for my actual record was 20 minutes and two seconds.

But But so first I go for like, okay, let me get to 10 minutes.

Then when I get to 10 minutes, I'm like, okay, this is the starting point.

And then I start from there.

And then I start counting seconds and breaking it all down.

So

I think it's a slow training

and long process, but eventually it becomes the numbers.

But you really have to, because when I've done breath holds, which I started doing, you know, those Wim Hoff things in the morning, you know,

obviously much shorter breath holds.

But for me, long, you know, like a minute and a half, two minutes is a long breath hold for most people.

I saw you do four minutes or 345 or something.

I think, yeah, around three.

No, in Hawaii.

Was it?

Anyway, I don't know.

But the point is, like, you know, you, you have this thing.

In fact, I had it in Hawaii.

I, I got, uh, I was out surfing with Matthew's son, who's a great surfer, by the way, uh, Livingston, and

or Levi, rather.

And

I got, you know, I shouldn't have even been out there.

They were big waves onshore.

We were out at a reef and it was huge.

Anyway, I got eaten by the wave and I'm down what felt like forever.

And so when I'm down there, I'm just like,

I needed a breath because I was, because

the way it happened is I was trying to get over the lip of the wave because a kind of a rogue wave came and didn't make it.

The guy next to me just got over.

I just didn't make it.

And I'm just like,

I, you know, you're like,

and then suddenly no breath.

Like your breath was coming every millisecond, another breath, and now suddenly no breath.

And I start fighting like I need to get that next breath.

So now I'm fighting, burning more,

which is worse.

You need to let go.

But anyway, the point is that when you're doing these breath holds,

there's something, there's shit going on in your brain that is just demanding another breath, right?

Yeah.

And you have to be able to still your mind.

That's right.

And so, but what is the technique of just saying, oh, it's just pure bliss?

You know, how do you do that?

Well, I mean,

that starts.

I think with training.

So it's a slow process.

So it's not like you can just hold your breath all of a sudden.

You have to understand what's going on.

So you have to understand that the CO2 buildup is the reason that you need to breathe.

It's the pain that it's like trying to trigger you and give you the signal that you need oxygen.

But really, the O2 is there and it'll shunt, it'll rush towards your vital organs and protect you for much longer than you think.

So once you learn that it's a CO2 buildup that's making you feel like you urgently need to breathe, then you can learn how to build up a resistance to CO2, which is the, I mean, that's the main first thing.

Brain resistant, you mean,

resistant to the co2 resistant your your your body can endure it much more efficiently like like when you go into an ice ice bath the first time you go in you can sit for a minute the next time you can push it and go to two minutes and you go three minutes you know and and they used to say bite the bullet right because when they would do the you have your arm blown off from a cannon and they had to use a hot rod to seal everything.

Yeah, they would give you a

bite the bullet, right?

Or breathe.

So you can't breathe when you're holding your breath, but it's the same principle.

It's like acceptance and then focus on what you're doing.

And then, you know, know that you have the ability to push much longer than you think.

The opposite is panic.

So if you panic suddenly, it makes it much more difficult and you'll black out quicker.

And is there a physiological thing that happens with panic, like more CO2?

Yeah, everything.

You're not efficient.

Yeah.

The most efficient way is to just be calm and

wait.

If you're connected to something, if you're trapped on a coral or something, you have to release yourself, then that's different.

You do need to panic and get out of the situation.

But if you're just under, you can just wait.

And if you wait, it'll be much more efficient.

When I was a kid learning how to hold my breath, I was like five years old at the YMCA.

And like I said, I was born, my feet turned in, so I couldn't swim efficiently.

And I would lose all the time.

But what I started to do is just not breathe.

And then the older kids would come to watch, and I would just hold the ladder in standard water.

And then what I realized is I could hold my breath much longer because they would have to go up and down to get their breaths, but that's not efficient.

Going and back down is not as good as just holding and being patient and just waiting.

So I learned young how to just hold, wait, and be patient.

And I think that related to everything that I did.

So I think early on, I kind of learned that lesson.

And then

it's even friends that I grew up with,

they all remember that like when if we were wrestling and I was like under a mattress, I would just stay there.

If I was covered and I couldn't breathe, I would just relax and wait.

Then I'd pull it off and they would all be claustrophobic.

But I understood from just early on breath holding, you just wait, you be patient, and things will change.

But at this time, like when you were a kid doing those kind of things, did that bring ridicule from the other kids?

Or did that

make the older kids come watch and think that was really good that they couldn't beat me?

Yeah, because I couldn't swim.

I wasn't good at the other, it's the swim races, but I was good at holding my breath, which made me better at swimming, but which really made me better at a skill that was unique.

And I think that's kind of, that's kind of been like the arc of my entire life, you know.

Now, what about, but you're, because you're living now mostly in Paris.

Yeah, but half the years.

Which is frustrating because it used to be every time I'm in New York, I can look you up.

We have the best time.

But now, a lot of times you're in Paris.

So what do you think?

New York, Paris, which do you like better?

Well, I love, I love both cities.

I love,

I'm not particular about places, but my daughter's in school in Paris, so I love to be there because I'm with her.

But I'm pretty happy, and I've never been specific to which city is which came first.

Your daughter went there or sorry, or and

no, my daughter was born in New York, and her mom is French.

So, when

Dessa was three,

we decided, first of all, and I agree, like there was a great school that she would be able to, I think, you know, get into.

And it's academically incredible.

And I had

friends who, their kids went there.

And so she started early and

went to this incredible school, which gives this amazing education.

And yeah, and I love France.

I also love New York.

I also love every state in the U.S.

I've been to.

So I'm not particular about location.

I kind of think like

wherever I am,

I'm pretty happy.

But you also didn't want to go on the record saying, yeah, I like Paris better than New York.

You didn't want to say that.

I mean, you got to say the architecture.

How's the architecture?

It's spectacular.

Okay.

Yeah, but come on.

New York's alive 24-7.

It has so many incredible museums, parks, adventures, everything.

No, come on.

Both cities.

Look, New York has a great thing to do.

You went with New York.

Sorry, Paris.

No, no, I have to say, I love both equally.

I'm not even joking.

It's not like a political, but it's just actually, I love both equally.

It's true.

I do love that you can walk everywhere in both cities.

That's also pretty incredible.

In L.A., you cannot walk, but I have a motorcycle here to go around, which is pretty amazing.

And in California, you're allowed to like.

Yeah.

I like that you go.

You drove here, right?

That was your bike?

Yeah, yeah.

Electric.

He takes my motorcycle and the first thing he does is like, boom.

He puts it down.

Yes, right away.

Well, yeah, I do have it.

Because it was much taller than I.

One time, remember that time?

I borrowed his bike.

I came and got it.

I was working in upstate New York just a couple of years ago.

And like, he gives me pieces of the bike back.

You know, I'm not kidding.

He'll take my bike and I'll be like, oh, here's your mirror.

It fell off and I dropped the bike.

And here's your taillight.

It also fell off.

I'll have pieces.

I have pieces of my bike.

I take pictures and send them to him years later.

Do you actually say, do you want to borrow anything else of mine?

He backed out of our gate.

Yeah.

Oh, hi.

Took it right off, of course.

The track.

You know, it was days before I could get the fence working.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sorry, I had to bring it up.

Or one time he stayed at my apartment in the city, and I don't have many things.

I have like a few pieces of clothing.

They're all identical.

And sometimes there's just one.

And it's like, then therefore it's my favorite thing.

But also my, so I had like one dressy coat.

And

I come back and I had to go do a gig.

So I need this coat.

I'm looking, where?

And then I find a note.

And

it's in some

rolled up, dirty coat.

I think it was a hemp coat, but it was like all ripped.

And it was crazy.

And in the pocket, it said,

hey, I left you this.

I was thinking, I took one of yours, but I left you this.

This is my favorite jacket.

So I'm so happy to leave it with you.

And I had a gig.

It's true.

That's a truth.

I have to do it.

Wister just one second of fuck that guy.

Just one second.

No, no, no matter what.

You always just look.

You always know you can't.

Then you read the letter and you're laughing and it's hilarious.

And yeah, I show up without a coat, so that means I have no pockets.

So normally to do magic, you need lots of pockets.

Yeah, I don't have the pockets, it kind of like

it limits the amount of magic,

but but it's fine.

I improvise it with her guy.

They do sound kind of bad, in this

way.

I never saw, I never saw that coat again either.

Yeah,

neither did I.

So when he says I owe him all that money, it's like,

here, we're good.

That coat, that motorcycle, we're equal.

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So you're spending a lot of time in LA because you

have to be on this coast.

Well, no, I'm with

Dessa.

We've been here for

the whole month.

And

yeah, we've been looking at

what we can do.

And she's been training.

And I've been working on magic.

And been working.

We went to Rio Rio together where we're shooting this episode for Net Geo, where I'm trying to find people that do

really difficult, crazy, almost magical type things.

And then the idea is if something is done by one, it could be done by others.

So I find people around the world that have these unique abilities that have been passed down from centuries or generations and

basically convince them to share their secrets with me.

And Dessa came and I lit myself on fire and jumped off a bridge.

And of course, remess dislocated my shoulder, but it was fine, broke a rib, but it's okay.

But it's okay.

How's Dessa when you come up and you, and she can see you going,

well, I kind of don't show it too much.

I think I'm lucky with that.

Yeah, yeah, but I don't show it anyway too much.

I kind of laugh it off.

It's the old stunt, stunt man thing.

You know, you okay?

You okay?

Sure.

Walks around the corner, steps into an ambulance, and goes to the hospital.

Oh, yeah.

What was that?

Oh, that was, was that Houdini?

Some magic movie where the guy does this trick, swallows poison or something, and then just walks out,

gets into an ambulance or something.

Not Houdini.

What you just said.

It wasn't Houdini.

It was

anyway.

Some magician movie.

Well, never mind.

No one knows about it.

I just remember that scene.

Hey, let me ask you: I not, not

obviously, you love what you're doing, but what, what is the best gift you get out of

your fame?

Your, your, you know,

I think, I think I'm so lucky because, as a magician, you can just do magic everywhere, anywhere that you go to anybody.

But why does that delight you besides

my favorite?

Besides being with my daughter, that's my favorite thing.

Well, it turns people into children, yeah.

You just enjoy the time best of everybody.

You do magic, and everybody lightens up, and it doesn't matter where, what situation.

I mean, I'm so

like

not like I'm so into it that like if I see two people fighting, like in Paris, recently I saw a guy get into a fight with a delivery guy on a bike and a guy delivering Pakistan.

And the guy has his bike lock in his hand.

So this is a, and there's a whole line of cars.

And by the way, I had like my, my, my ankles all messed up.

So I'm not very functional at the moment.

But anyway, hobble over, hobble right in the middle, and they're, they're about to go at it.

And I just pull out my deck of cards and I'm like, pens on card.

And the two guys look at me and they're so confused

that the fight is over.

And I, and I do that often.

But anytime that I can do magic and any, and by the way, the reason I'm often late is because if somebody asks me to do magic, it's very difficult for me to say no.

Like, cause, and

by the way, I also look at it as like it's a constant, you can always be practicing.

And every time I do something, I learn something and I change it and I tweak it and I add to it.

So, you know, you're not trying to be good, but you're always trying to be better.

And better has no ceiling.

So you can always keep doing a little bit to always get better, better.

And, and, and I think that's part of the joy of being a magician.

I think that's the highlight of being a magician for me at least, you know.

But you go and you're like, you, you go to like burn wards and

the hole in the ball.

The girls, underage prisons,

everywhere.

Yeah.

That must be really gratifying.

The most.

The most

beyond it.

And now I have Dessa doing it as well, and she's performing.

And she's way better than me, of course.

But anyway, yeah, that is the most gratifying thing.

It's just when you, when you, when you can distract somebody who's dealing with a lot and kind of break that difficulty and make them smile, make them laugh.

That is the highlight of being a,

for me, of being a close-up magician.

You know, I was, we were watching you out before we started the podcast.

You were entertaining the troops here.

And

one of the things that struck me is like, we're so used to being, thinking we're in control, thinking we've got life figured out.

And to be so fucking delighted when we sit there and watch you and have, I mean, watch you like our nose was two inches away from the cards and be just stupefied to have no idea is that's also a gift to people.

Go, you don't know everything and enjoy, enjoy this moment because I'm going to startle you.

But even when it's a skeptic, when you have somebody that's like trying to figure out, that's also good because it adds another little shift into the performance.

You know, so it's like any reaction for me is amazing.

Like even the non-reaction or the thinking reaction or the skeptic reaction or the great big reaction, like all of every reaction to me is just incredible.

Thank you, Sandy Meisner.

Yeah, it is Sandy Meisner,

yeah, yeah.

Richard Pinter was the guy that walked me through it, and he, and it was, it, it was amazing.

And even when I was working on my stage show, I would, I would

get all of his feedback, and I think that really helped.

Yeah, I think

that

looking, I think the goal

reactions are truthful.

And when I shoot my shows, my TV shows, for me,

it's like I'll work for a year to make one hour.

And it's because if I don't believe the reaction, and that all came from neighborhood playhouse or just listen and react, but if I don't believe the reaction, then I don't use the footage.

So no matter who it is or what it is, if I don't like and don't believe that it's a full honest reaction, then I don't use it.

And when I first started, people weren't, you know, the cameras, they would kind of act up for them.

So I had to learn how to break the ice carefully with the camera far away and start by doing something that would like engage them.

And then slowly have the camera go because I wanted that truthful reaction.

And even when we did Magic with Kanye, I knew that he was going to be, he was going to be really tricky.

And, but I, so I knew if I took the ice pick and shoved it through my hand, it would like then break the ice literally.

And then you could do the other magic because you've already

don't bleed on my.

I was like, I have no idea, which made it more, you know, scary, I guess.

Don't do this at home.

No, but

do not do any of it.

That's for sure.

But I think part of the reason that I shifted over to doing those things that are pushing the body or or doing things that are

a little, you know, I think like threatening to see or scary or is because

now that people are so used to the whole magic and reaction thing, it's almost like to get the reaction, you have to really break their sense of disbelief.

You have to make, so you have to do something that's so visceral and so real and so believable that then you can apply magic to it once you take that defense layer down.

So that, you know, so it's, it's it's been a constant

and and and my stage show, I was trying to figure out for years, how do you, how do you bring those reactions to a stage?

Because when people are on stage, they can often act up.

So it's like, oh, if I, you know, eat their ring and then put a hanger down my throat and pull their ring out,

you can't deny it.

So I would, I started to search for magic that no matter how skeptical you are, if you're watching up close, you, you have to believe it.

And then therefore, you'll get a real reaction.

I haven't heard a word you said after Hanger retrieving the ring.

I'm going

to go.

It's a wild one.

It's a wild one.

Your first special, and I assume the one that launched you to fame was, yeah, the street magic.

What, what, uh, well, that one, no, that one, not a lot of people saw that.

Yeah, it was when I buried myself alive,

which was after that, that suddenly

everybody took note.

Yeah, people took notice.

And then,

yeah.

And then.

And what was that evolution like from, you know, anonymity to just suddenly everybody knows you?

And, of course, they're also all wanting to test you and wanting you to.

Well, it made it a little.

The one difficulty was as an unknown magician, when I would walk up and kind of play that character of a magician who's doing these weird things.

People would really react.

But as they started to know me, they knew I was a magician, which means then therefore, oh, he's making a TV show.

So, it made it more difficult, actually.

Like, when I'm in another country and I'm doing magic and people don't know me, it's incredible because I could really push that, you know, I could play with that line of like, oh, wait, what's going on here?

And I could really, you know, blur the line of what's you know, what's real, what's not.

And then the magic to me is that much stronger.

Sounds like it doesn't hassle you then, your fame.

No, yeah, that's great.

No, will people let you play serious card games?

Well, I think that's Ricky Jason.

I think it's a catch-22.

If you win as a magician, they say that you cheated.

And if you lose, they say you're a bad magician.

So I just avoid.

But I'll play backhaven with him and get really serious.

And we have friends that we play with.

But no,

I would never cheat.

To win, it's not fun.

It would not be interesting.

One time when I was young, I showed my friend that was like doing a college game.

I was like, I'm going to take everybody's money, but then I'm going to return it.

And then I showed, I beat everybody dealing the cards.

And I was like, by the way, guys, here's what I did.

I cheated you all.

And then I then, but I just wanted to see if I could pull it off.

And it was very easy to pull it off.

And they were

a little alarmed and then cool.

No, no, no.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

They were like, that's crazy.

You really just did that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

a magician could easily cheat at cards.

Like, for sure.

It would be very easy to mark a deck or rig a deck or set a deck up in a secret way and then put it into play.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My dad was

quite a card shark.

And, you know,

that's how he used to, he, he used to make a lot of money doing that.

And it's like, and so me and my brother one time says, well, so how do you do it?

And he goes, I cheat.

Wow.

That's amazing.

That is amazing.

So that's why you were so like,

like, skeptical when I was first doing magic to you a long time ago.

Not skeptical, but you were like,

you were on it.

But then what would happen is he would be in on it.

So when I would be doing magic to other people, he would act like he didn't know it and he would kind of egg the outcome on.

So it would, it would like people,

and he'd be like, ah.

But it still delights me.

Even tricks I've seen, you know, a million times, it delights me because, you know, just their delight, their joy.

It's really one of the great things you can do for people is magic because it brings them back to that childhood simplicity and love and excitement and all the pure things that we kind of lose as we get older.

So I love how you can just turn a whole gaggle full of like felons into like joyous, you know, children.

You know what I mean?

What's also funny is lot were you ever, i know he was a magician but were you a magician ever no no no

lots of our friends lots of people that we know when they were young were magicians so it's like there's a lot of people that not that did magic here and there so it's like there is some sort of uh and i think magic it's it's one of those things that

you know

it's it's logic it's performance it's math it's science it's it's estimation.

It's so many fun things to combine.

What I lock onto immediately is the connection to acting.

I mean, when I see a performance, I don't want to see what's coming in advance.

What delights me when I see a performance is, whoa,

I did not see that coming.

That is amazing.

And that's all you do is delight people.

Thank you.

Yeah.

This has been the best,

best hour.

But I want to say one, I want to go back in time one more second.

So I just,

so you were saying what stunt would you not do?

And I said, the one I couldn't do is sleep deprivation.

He won't bring me to plays anymore because I always not off the middle of plays.

I get like an elbow.

Yeah.

You can hit.

You know, it's like, no.

Yeah.

So you don't want to bring him to a play.

But the other thing is just the amount of time that we've spent laughing into hysterics, just

on the ground, rolling around.

I can see that.

I'm crying with laughter so many times.

I really, you've given me me more laughter, I think, than anybody I know.

So thank you for that as well.

Oh, thank you.

But thanks for coming, buddy.

I really do appreciate it.

Thank you.

It's really been a great pleasure.

Truly a great hour.

Yeah, it's an honor.

Thank you.

That was the magnificent.

David Blaine.

It was so surreal to experience his magic in person.

And thank you, Woody.

Thank you for sharing him with me.

It was kind of funny.

I said goodbye to David after we were

recording, and I, you know, went and washed my hands and got my stuff and was going to leave.

And this was like about 15 minutes later.

He was still, David was still,

you know, in the building entertaining, you know, about 20 people doing sleight of hand for about 20 minutes.

He cannot not perform.

It was amazing.

I want to mention David's new documentary adventure series coming soon.

It's called David Blaine Do Not Attempt, produced by Brian Grazer and Ron Howard.

On the show, David visits remote communities across the world looking for local practitioners of magic.

The show premieres March 23rd on National Geographic and streams the next day on Disney Plus and Hulu.

Don't miss it.

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