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Oh my God.

I guess everybody's dead.

I can use myself.

I'm not hurting anybody's feeling.

Welcome back to Everybody Knows Your Name with me, Ted Danson, and me, Mary Steenberg.

And we're married.

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We're working on this and we'll get back to you soon on how we're going to do that.

But

first,

We're going to talk about the remarkable Dick Van Dyke

and his wife, Arlene Silver, who we got to talk to in in their Malibu home a couple of months ago.

It was

not a real experience.

It really was.

You know, for us, Dick

has been a hero.

Since we were very young, we watched him in movies and on television.

I think for you, the Dick Van Dyke show was a very seminal.

Literally the first thing I saw when I got my first TV, because I grew up without a television.

Please tell them how you bought your television show.

All right.

I I was at Stanford University and I grew up with literally, this was my first TV.

My parents didn't want a TV in the house.

I got back at them, didn't I?

I found this old discarded TV on the street at Stanford and I put it up in my dorm room and I crawled out on the roof to tap into the cable of some teacher that lived below us.

Forgive me.

And turned on the TV at 11 o'clock in the morning and literally saw Dick tripping over the Ottoman on the Dick Van Dyke show.

And I was in love from that moment.

I mean, one of the most remarkable physical comedians we've ever had, the pleasure of being exposed to.

So I have to say, going to their house, I had no idea what it would be like.

And it's this lovely old Spanish home in Malibu.

It's just filled with fantastic memorabilia and love letters from all kinds of people.

Charlie Chaplin, he has this letter from Charlie Chaplin.

There's a life-size sculpture of Dick that's very real looking, and you keep kind of being startled because you think he's somehow behind you.

And that was from Mary Poppins.

What I took away when I left there was we had just interviewed one of the oldest people I know, and also his

partner in crime, who's a lot younger than him, but the two of them are beautifully like children together.

They play, they laugh constantly, they love to dance.

She adores him and she's very much like this wonderful supportive archive of his.

life.

If he can't remember a name, and by the way, he remembers so much detail, but when he can't remember a year or a name or something, she knows it.

She's like this wonderful Dick Van Dieg computer that knows all the answers and they're joyful.

Yeah, it was kind of one of our best double dates, but the room was surrounded with production people and cameras and sound people and producers.

And everyone, everyone in that room felt like we were experiencing something magical.

Anyway, we're probably talking too much about it.

We should just let them speak for themselves.

Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dick Van Dyke and Arlene Silver.

Thank you for letting us into your home.

Thank you for all of us.

It's so much easier.

They just lowered the federal rate a half a percent.

And that means, yeah,

we know nothing about money, literally.

Tell me what that means and if that's a matter of money.

It doesn't either.

It's a terrible news.

I was talking today about guys like Tom Hanks, who are not only good actors, but you have a business sense.

And he's out producing.

I don't do anything.

No.

No, I don't have any business head whatsoever.

Just so you know, we've been so excited all week that we sat in bed this morning having our many cups of coffee watching chitty chitty bang bang yeah was it wasn't on was it no well it can be it's you just go to apple tv and there it is and um i hadn't seen it for quite a few years and we're singing we're singing the song and speaking of business i'm supposed to own 20 of that movie but i haven't seen any chicks in 30 years oh my gosh did they come for a while and then stop no they never came oh yeah

Well, call Tom Hanks and we're going to get a lawsuit going.

Catch you your money.

But didn't you just, we're going to jump all over the place, but didn't you hurt yourself on that film?

Yes, I did.

Like the other dancers who warm up, I didn't warm up before a dance member, and I'm twice their age.

And I had to kick on the, remember, we were going around in the bakery?

Yes.

I stuck my foot out and tore the muscle in the back of my leg.

Oh.

Yeah.

So I had to,

we shot other stuff till I healed up.

So you were fine.

You got through the old bamboo fine.

Yeah.

And you didn't try.

That one looks

so tricky.

I never have in Broadway.

You know, the kids will be out on the stage warming.

I never warmed up.

I never vocalized.

Nothing.

Just walk out and do it.

Very unprofessional of me.

That's like Barbara Streisand.

She never sings around the house.

She barely warms up ever.

Really?

Yes.

I asked her husband, I said, so when she goes in the shower, do you just like run there and stand there listening?

And he goes, no, she doesn't sing in the shower.

She doesn't sing.

She doesn't have to.

No.

You said that

you told me that she goes up on a piano and goes along to tone her voice.

That's what you told me.

That's what she told me.

Okay, well, I introduced her the first time,

her first trip to Los Angeles many years ago.

I introduced her at

some hotel.

I got to Coconut Grove?

Was it the Coconut Grove?

Maybe.

My memory is forgotten.

Yeah, I'm

not sure.

You're welcome to the club.

We almost look alike, don't we?

We do.

Oh, no, you guys have such a similarity.

Such similar, tall, beautiful shapes and

both so graceful.

Yeah, we look like brothers.

But let me jump to my origin story with you.

I grew up without a television in Arizona.

My mother didn't want one, so we didn't have one.

My first TV came was I was at Stanford University.

I found one on the street, lifted it up to our room, plugged it in, and tapped into some teacher's antenna, crawled out on the roof, turned it on, and it was around 11 o'clock in the morning.

And it was a rerun of the Dick Van Dyke show.

And as I turned it on, it literally was you tumbling over the ottoman.

Oh, really?

And I was smitten.

And

I was your fan and stalker from that moment on i remember early on when i started to do cheers and we'd be at a similar event yeah i could almost feel like your eyes started to cross when you saw me coming towards you again to tell you that story or you know worship at your feet you are my hero so that was your introduction to tv you were yeah and to physical comedy nobody Nobody does it as well as you did it.

Really.

Well, I practiced a lot as a kid.

I used to go to Laurel and Harley movies on Saturday and then come home and falling down on the grass, practicing falling.

Yeah, I was prepared.

And what town was that?

Where did you grow up?

Oh, in Danville, Illinois, yeah.

Yeah.

Didn't you get a chance to say something to Stan Laurel to?

Oh, yeah.

Were you claimed?

I started looking for my, you know,

Stan and Buster Keaton the minute I got out here.

I was looking up a phone number one day, and there it was Stan Laurel in Santa Monica.

And I called him up.

He knew me from the show, so I got to go out to his house and meet him.

And I've got pictures, and I did the same with

Buster

through his house in the valley.

They were in the phone book?

No, he wasn't in the phone book.

I got him through Stan.

Stan was in the phone book, though.

You know, I did the eulogies at both of their funerals.

Really?

Yeah.

And the one to Stan ended up in a book of the 100 best eulogies of the century,

Stan.

Really?

Yeah, I worked hard on it.

Yeah.

Wow.

I remember you quoted in the book you wrote

that you told him, Stan, I did steal a lot of my material from you.

And he just went, I know.

He said, I know.

That's right.

I've got his derby.

Yeah.

And I've got Buster Keaton's poo set.

Pooh cut.

Oh, wow.

I'm going to look.

Oh, look.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That had

quite a history.

Somebody picked it up on the camera team, I think, when he died, took it home, gave it to his uncle.

And I didn't get it till not too long ago when his uncle died.

I think it got lost in a card game.

That's what the

game was.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we have it now.

You also mentioned that your other hero was Carl Reiner.

I love that you mentioned that.

He was not only a great talent, he was one of the nicest people I ever knew.

He was an angel, that guy.

Loved him.

If you don't mind me pushing this around,

how did that, the Dick Van Dyke show, come to be?

Where did it come into your life?

How?

Was it?

Well, I was still, I was doing Bye-Bye Birdie for a year, and

the pilot came up, and

My agent told me it was between me and Johnny Carson to do the pilot.

And I thought, well,

and so when the birdie was over, no wait, I took a week off, flew out here and did a pilot with Carl and came back and he called me and said it sold.

And then the end of the first season, we got canceled.

Really?

Got canceled.

We were on against Perry Como,

who was on NBC, and he beat us every night.

So we got canceled.

Sheldon Leonard, who was the executive producer,

went down to Cincinnati to Procter Gamble and talked them into it.

He said, this show deserves another chance.

And they gave us another chance.

And then we ran for five years.

Wow.

Did they move the night?

Did they move it to a Tuesday?

I think we during that first year bounced around a little bit.

Yeah.

I think what was the final night?

Tuesday?

I don't know.

I came in with reruns.

Yeah.

Didn't have the TV.

When were you born?

47.

47.

Yeah.

I got married in 48.

When you think, I go back to 25, I'm almost 100.

I know.

This is

insane.

You were about a month old when my father's

sister was born.

She's about a month younger than you.

And you're both going to celebrate your 100th birthday.

Oh, how great.

Yeah, I want to have a big party.

I love the book you wrote about we're talking about age and how you never thought about age until somebody came along and said,

write a book about age.

But for you, it was never a thing at all.

No.

You would just live your life.

I've got another book in me by now.

Oh, several.

That was what, 50 years ago.

No, no, no.

The Keep Moving book.

Oh, keep moving.

I think it was 10 years ago.

15 years ago.

Well, somebody said, you know, how do you to what do you attribute your age and physical condition?

I said, I've always exercised.

Three days a week, we go to the gym still.

Three days a week.

And I think that's it.

Why I'm not stove up like my

equals.

I that's one of the, I had met you before at events, and then we lived in Malibu for a while, Mary and and I and kids and everybody.

And I would go to the same gym you did.

And if I got there early enough, I would see you literally work out on some weight machine.

And then almost like you were doing circuit training, you would not walk to the next machine.

You dance.

You literally danced to the next machine.

And I watched that for a couple of weeks.

And finally, I talked to you about your exercise.

And you said you would come to the gym and work out for whatever hour or whatever it is then you would go home you would swim laps for

whatever

uh and then get back into bed and take a nap and then take a nap exactly yeah good routine was that at cana

uh yes the upstairs kind of gym right

yeah you should see the new one oh really great yeah

just a couple of blocks from here do you do what elliptical stuff what what do you do what do you work out Well, I get down and do a lot of stretching and yoga type things, sit-ups.

And they have machines.

Right.

You know, sit-up machines.

Yeah, something for almost every exercise.

Yeah.

And she works out, too.

Can I tell you my favorite experience in my life?

Yes.

I was 15 years old in Crawfordville, Indiana.

My dad had just been transferred there.

I was a freshman in high school on the freshman

track team running the 100 and the 200, the high jump.

Across the street from me was Wabash College, and on Saturdays, they had their track meets.

So I'd go over and watch that, and our coach would be one of the officials.

One damn it, they're running against Purdue.

And he came over and he said, The anchor man on the relay team twisted his ankle.

You want to run it?

I say, Yeah, sure.

I ran barefoot against Purdue, beat the guy by five yards.

Beat him by five yards.

Purdue guy, I'm 15.

I couldn't believe it.

I thought I'm going to the Olympics.

I was never that fast again.

I think it was the bare feet makes the difference.

So, bare feet was just for that moment, or did you go barefoot a lot?

No, I didn't go barefoot after.

They wouldn't let me.

He's barefoot now.

But the Africans all run barefoot.

He's always barefoot.

Sure.

But I was really fast.

That's another secret.

You're always barefoot.

Yeah.

You're grounding

the grounding.

You remember when Fosbury,

the Fosbury flop went over seven feet backwards?

They do.

Yeah.

The first time in

my life, I ever swore, I said, son of a bitch, when I saw that, because the old Western Roll and

the scissors, when I started, it was

the scissors.

That didn't get you anywhere.

No.

And there was the Western Roll and the Eastern Row.

Yeah.

But he went over backwards over seven feet and everybody,

why didn't somebody think of that before?

That's amazing.

Now girls are jumping that high.

So how did you wait?

So there are two things I want to talk about.

Your voice.

You were singing Capella early on in life.

Is that right?

Well, yeah, I sang with

the choir in high school

and then formed a barbershop quartet, which I still have.

Are you still doing that?

I knew you did it up.

Oh, no.

Nobody does barbershop anymore.

I I was looking for a new bass.

Can't find anybody who even heard of it.

What else do we do at the gym?

We sing duets all day.

But I play music he knows.

Right.

And I play it in the sound system.

He's singing.

That's your music.

I don't understand.

Yeah.

So I had to learn music he knows.

So I've learned thousands of songs.

She knows every 40 song there is.

They're pretty great.

Yeah, they are great.

They are.

Yeah.

But did you take dance classes early on?

Did you?

you?

No.

When I first got in the business and, you know, actually started working, I thought somebody's going to find out that I have no training and I want to be in trouble.

Because I never had dancing, acting, singing, nothing.

I just broke in and managed to fool everybody all these years.

Wait, so Dick, did you first go to New York and you did Bye Bye Birdie there?

Or did you come to California first?

Touring with your partner, Phil.

Yeah,

we had a record act, another guy, local guy and me called the Mary Mutes.

Very popular in those days.

Slip singing.

Panaming to records, you know, being Crosby and Mary Martin.

We traveled all over the country as an as an act.

Yeah.

Yeah, and we ended up in Atlanta, Georgia, because we liked it.

And we finally split up.

I got a job at a television station as an announcer and doing a show.

And I got a

buddy of mine from the Army, from the Air Force, ended up a director at CBS and said,

I'll pay your way up if you want to do an audition.

So I go to New York.

Who was the gal's name?

I did on a show.

Oh, Janie Ford?

No, no, no.

Anyway, it was some opera singer who had a show.

And at the end of it, they held the audience over, and I did my little act.

I sang a song, which which I can't remember.

Once in love with Amy?

Once in love with Amy with a little horse, little horseshoe, sawshoe, little horseshoe, a little horseshoe,

and I did a little monologue, and that was it.

And the next morning, they called me in and said, You've got a seven-year contract, just like that.

Wow, starting at $20,000 a year.

That was twice what I was making.

So we moved to New York and

I was the host of the morning show, the CBS morning show for a year.

With the anchor, who was the anchor?

Somebody famous through.

Walter Cronkite.

Walter Cronkite was my newsman.

That's just so astounding.

I'd never heard that.

Nobody ever heard me because Dave Garraway was on NBC and took all the ratings.

But Walter had just come from radio, of course.

Wonderful man.

You know, he did a strip tease.

I never saw it, but I understand it was sensational.

But finally, they want to transfer him to nighttime.

And he came to me and said, Dick, what did I do?

I said, you jerk.

I can't fire anybody.

I'm lucky to have this job.

So he went to nighttime and became Walter Gronghead.

He was a wonderful guy.

And who is your news lady?

Tell me.

Barbara Walters.

Barbara Walters.

Well, she was continuity at the time.

She was writing.

Yeah.

Well, still.

I mean, so we're in each other's books.

Yeah.

So did you leave that seven-year contract then to go do Bye-Bye Birdie?

No, CBS left that contract.

Broke up with you.

They kept me for three years.

They tried me as a game show host.

I was awful.

And I forget what else.

You

did the pilot for Price is Right.

I did the pilot for Price is Right.

You're amazing, by the way.

I know everything.

I shame my memory.

I wish a million older people.

We have a half a brain each.

And we play Wordle.

We do it together.

We do it together.

Together, we're genius.

It takes two of us.

No, they called me in and got an audience off the street, and I did it, you know, a pilot of it.

And I I went home, and I said, The dumbest thing, people guessing how much something costs?

That's a television show?

That was 50 years ago.

I still don't understand it.

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how did you get to bye-bye birdie on stage the cbs dropped me and there i was on long island with a family and no job so i just started going around auditioning for everything you know opera and ballet anything i stood in lines all day every day

and i auditioned for a Gower champion who directed it.

And I sang Once in Love with Amy and did my little thing.

And he came up and said, You've got the part.

Wow.

And I've always thought it was because we were almost the same height, build, and everything that he would, you know, he thought I.

And then I almost got fired out of town because I wasn't delivering.

I was a wreck.

You know, you go to Philadelphia with the show and still perform for audiences, but you're still trying things.

Right.

And for some reason, I couldn't, I was just a nervous wreck about Broadway.

And they brought a tune down for Cheetah Rivera.

And she said, look, Dick hasn't done anything to do in the first stack.

Why don't you give it to him?

It was Happy Face.

Oh, wow.

She gave me Happy Face.

Oh, my gosh.

Which won me a Tony.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what year was that?

60.

61?

61, something like that.

Because then I, once I got a year there, I came straight out to Carl and we started the show.

And that was 61 to 65 or 6.

Six.

61 to 65.

Six, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was five years.

Nobody wanted to quit the show, but Carl wanted to go on and do some movies and things.

I mean, the cast was, we were heartbroken.

We had such fun.

It was such a great group.

Wasn't like coming to work at all.

Kind of was fun.

Oh, God.

You know, half those scripts were written on the floor.

He'd give us a basic script,

but between Rosie and Maury and me, we start throwing lines.

Right.

Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

There was improv in there.

A lot of it, yeah.

Even on the air, there was.

Really?

Sometimes.

Well, we had an audience.

And I can never understand how can you do comedy without an audience.

You need them to work with you, you know.

I found you're never as good in your rehearsal or dress rehearsal as you are with the audience.

It takes you to to a whole nother

several notches.

And they guide you.

They can change the mood by the reaction.

The longest laugh I ever got in my life was one that CBS didn't want us to do, where we thought our babies were mixed up and the other couple turns out to be black when they walk in.

That was, we had to cut the cameras because the audience wouldn't stop laughing.

And the network was scared to death of it.

Scared to death of it back in those days.

Oh, what a laugh.

It was just great.

I got to work with Mary once.

She was a delight.

Mary Tyler Moore.

You know, from day one, she just had it.

She just had it.

Carl picked her because of her voice.

You know, she had that high-pitched ping in her voice.

The pilot, she was, you know, good.

She played her part.

But after working with Maury and Rosie and me, she picked it up like by the third show, she was dynamite.

She was the greatest.

Yeah, I couldn't have picked anybody better.

And I'm so happy for her.

Her career went.

Yes.

And you were a big part of that.

You really championed actually all the women that you worked with.

And that wasn't true of all the male actors of your time, but you were really so, you know, she had the nicest things to say about you.

Oh, Mary did?

Yeah.

Oh, and Grey.

You know, when the show was over, I could tell the network just saw her as the wife who supported.

She wasn't getting anything from the network.

So we did a special called Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman, where we showcased everything she did.

Dan said she just blew this place away.

The next day they called her.

And got the marriage.

We had to get there at all.

This was after.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The network, you got to nudge them a little bit.

They didn't get it that she was great.

So

that was through 66, the Dick Van Dyke show.

Did you take time off or do

Bye-By Birdie during the summer?

When did you see that?

I did Bye-bye Birdie during the summer.

Wow.

Right.

We did Bye-By Birdie and then you left it to do the Dick Van Dyke show, right?

But the movie.

Oh, don't talk about it.

Oh, yeah.

The movie.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

Don't talk about the movie.

Did you ever see the stage show?

No.

It was a.

It made me so angry.

It was a romp on Broadway.

It was just such a great hit.

And they rewrote it for Anne Margaret

and changed all the lines, changed everything, took out some of the songs.

And it was nothing compared to the Broadway show.

It just missed entirely.

And the only two from the original were Paul Lynn and me.

And we were both saying,

this is terrible.

They really ruined it.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Yeah,

can't go back and fix it.

But the Broadway show was a, just flew.

Who played?

I thought Maureen Stapleton was very funny in the movie.

Yeah, yeah, she was amazing.

That was the first thing I think I saw her.

You know, she was afraid of going out in the world, bothered her.

She didn't like to cross the street by herself.

She had the strength, yeah, sweet as she could be.

What about that?

She had this phobia.

The Hollywood party, the rap party, Paul Lind.

Oh, can I say these things?

Yes, you can.

You can say anything.

We are at a big long table, and

Paul Lynn leans on the table.

And Margaret, I'm the only one here that doesn't want to fuck you.

That's great.

Paul was as funny as you can get.

A nice guy, except when he drank.

And then he got a little, you know, sharp.

Was that an example of him drinking a little bit?

Oh, yeah.

yeah.

I thought the party for

the movie was at the director's house.

But he finished eating.

He came in the living room.

Oh, no.

Maureen was sitting on the floor with a bowl of salad.

It's like his first Hollywood party.

Oh, my God.

I guess everybody's dead.

I can.

Oh, my God.

I'm not hurting anybody's feelings.

Wow.

Tell me about, I loved the movie,

now I'm blanking on his name, the Carl Reiner Wrote for You and Directed the Comics.

I thought that was outstanding where you played the silent movie star.

Yeah.

You know, it didn't do anything.

People wouldn't go to see me do a serious role.

I know.

And it wasn't really a serious role.

But we would go out with a camera, a handheld 16, and look for things to do.

Right.

If a fire engine went by, I jumped on it.

And we had reams of uh footage unfortunately that disappeared just fun things we did out out in public

and then we took all the film out in my backyard and dragged it over the grass to make it look old

oh really

so it would project yeah like an old movie

so authentic those those violent movies both felt that it was a great example of that period.

We thought we really caught it.

But

people didn't want to see it.

And what was the other one?

Nowadays, people always talk about that movie.

Oh, it's wonderful.

And your performance is astounding.

It is of a recovering or still alcoholic.

I can't remember the character.

You had a drinking problem.

Yeah.

You know, during it, no, no, no, the character.

The character you're playing.

Yeah.

was a recovering alcoholic.

And that's where, yeah, I think so.

That's where I was.

The other one was Morning After that you loved.

They're the crazy crazy guy

mickey rooney do you talk about your sobriety do you talk about it in your book not much it's been got what 45 50 years right i went through a short period where i realized i was trapped and i went and aa and got help right away went to uh

some place where you rehab who you get rehab yeah one of those things you had to go to rehab

yeah i didn't have it for long right what took me the longest was smoking.

Wow.

Did you ever smoke?

Yeah, it was tough.

It took me, we both did.

Did you?

It was brutal.

That's rough.

Brutal.

We did a movie about it.

That's right.

With Norman Lear.

What was the name of it?

Cold Turkey.

Cold Turkey.

And we had both, we were doing pretty good, not smoking.

But he had to direct a room full of local people.

It had to be smoke-filled.

Everybody was smoking.

And it was one little lady who didn't know how to do it.

And Norman said, no, hold it like this.

And I saw him take the draw and I saw his eyes go.

Oh, no.

He smoked a pack that day.

I saw,

I should have said, no,

but his eyes just changed.

Yeah.

I've never trusted people who can smoke one cigarette a day.

It's like, I'm one cigarette away from a pack a day.

I know.

Oh, but I'm.

How do you do that one a day no i it's like one drink a day yes that's

but you love your nicorette now you you i'm still on the nicorette

yeah yeah i still chew it and it's and it's the delivery system that's bad for you right it's the smoke and the tar and the nicotine it's not the nicotine if you deliver it through gum yeah is not harmful for you is that right it can be at an excessive rate i mean the amount heat does it could

cause some i mean they're like in your bloodstream, the nicotine.

But it doesn't get in your lungs.

No, no, no.

It's much better than smoking.

Composted was in that movie, and he couldn't switch.

The whole town had to quit smoking to get the money.

And he couldn't stop smoking because he was also a drunk, a very rich drunk.

And I don't know how many takes I had to do to get through.

He just broke me up because the drinking boon is connected to the smoking boon.

He said, You see, there goes.

And I, every, what do you call me?

Riverman, Riverman?

I bet I did 12 takes and I thought I couldn't hold it.

I just kept falling apart.

But he is funny in that thing.

Are you a giggler on set?

Yes.

I am so glad to hear it.

I am

worse.

I'm terrible.

I humiliate myself.

I get out of control.

It's funny.

Yeah.

Deacon, you know, the big guy.

Yeah.

When he was going to go up, a bead of sweat would appear.

And I would know.

And I would go.

Yeah.

I was going to say, he was going to go up.

But I'd see that bead of sweat.

I couldn't stand it.

Are there outtakes from the Mary Tyler Moore show?

Do you guys, did anybody ever

take that?

There are

some.

There's an outtake reel, I think.

There is.

Oh, my God.

I bet that's great.

On YouTube, youtube you can find it but carl didn't like

i heard that carl didn't like showing that because because it breaks breaks the yeah reality or the actually i looked at him later and i didn't think it were all that funny we thought you know we broke up and thought funny yeah

yeah

can we jump around a little bit more because when i first

met you, I also heard stories of how you

were building, I don't know if you built that, but building,

I don't know if it was paper-mâché or what it was,

life replicas of people that you made

so a woman could sit with this man next to her in the seat of her car.

Oh, and you well, it's Halloween.

He makes monsters.

Yeah, I make Halloween monsters.

We're obsessed with it.

We do a Halloween a block long.

Oh, yeah.

We're obsessed with it.

Thousands of people come.

We're in our what, 40th year?

Well, you've been doing it since the 60s, but then we do.

Um, he was going to stop doing it 10 years ago.

We sold all the monsters.

James Cameron used to be our neighbor, and we had competing Halloween, and he bought all of our monsters, and we said, Yeah, we're going to stop.

It's too much work.

And then when Halloween came around, we were sad that we like the street thing.

So that's-that's what made the marriage Halloween and singing together.

So it's coming pretty soon, too.

So, we

um, I thought, well, what else can we do?

that's not a lot of work?

And I love to lip sync.

So I did Ursula on the steps out here.

And

everyone loved it.

And then Dick's like, we got to get a stage.

We got to get lights.

That was 10 years ago.

I've been doing Ursula for 10 years.

And we do a live show with puppets and dancing.

And he comes out if.

if he feels like it.

We put a stage in front of the garage.

Yeah.

We do the lighting and everything.

That's fantastic.

We get so many kids.

It's just great.

We We love it.

We open the gates from six to nine so that all the kids can come in.

Yeah, it's fun.

So maybe I got the mannequin thing wrong, but I do know you were into computer

and

CGI.

Yeah,

animation.

Didn't they let you do something professionally on a film?

Yeah,

a motorcycle

thing of a motorcycle going off a cliff.

And I did it in Light Wave, my little CG machine.

Yeah, and they used it.

So I got a credit for a special effect.

Smarter.

That's great.

Yeah.

Great hobby.

Do you still play around with that?

I do.

It's kind of grown past me.

It's gotten so complicated.

Arlene, can we talk about how you guys met?

Sure.

I was backstage

in the green room of what?

SAG Awards.

SAG Awards.

Right.

And we're just sitting there by myself, and she walked by.

And for the first time in my life, I approached her.

I just jumped up.

I said, hi, I'm Dick.

Almost without thinking.

And she sat down.

I introduced myself.

And I was totally in love at sight, at first sight.

Wow.

And I found out she was a makeup lady.

And I said, you can come on my show.

She had one.

business card left and gave it to me in my

little fist

and I got her on the show as a maker a hallmark movie was that what it was a hallmark but what did i say to you the first thing i said to you well you seem to know who i was no that's not true you can't well she was first i know who he is he's dick van dyke i said i thought she had never seen anything she had never seen mary poplin i think she thought i was christopher plumber

no i um

I knew that Julie Anders was in another movie like Sound of Music.

And there was a guy in it like Christopher Plummer.

So Dick was always like in my peripheral.

I knew who he was.

I mean, he's Dick Van Dyke, but when I met him, I went, I don't know why I know who he is because

the

cast of Mary Tyler Moore was there to give an award for best cast at SAG Awards.

So Dick said,

Will you watch?

Will you watch my seat?

I'm going to go get my makeup done.

And I'm like, okay, I didn't believe him.

And um the cast goes out no he sits down and then he the cast goes out to give the award and he comes over and sits next to me and i said aren't you supposed to go out with them because i thought he was on the mary toler morse i was like wrong about everything

and then you said oh what do you do and i said um I'm a makeup artist.

I've had a million jobs, but at that night, I was a makeup artist.

And he said, oh, I'm doing this murder mystery thing.

I might need a makeup artist.

I said, oh, hasn't that been on the air for a long time?

Because Diagnosis Murder had been off the air for 10 years.

It was this little hallmark.

I just was wrong about everything.

Were you aware that he was

looking at you?

No, no, not at all.

In a way, it was kind of good for me because she wasn't over-impressed or anything.

I'm just a guy.

It doesn't sound like she was very impressed at all.

It was a

hard sell.

I'll say that.

They're at the after party.

I always go to the after party and I put my makeup away.

And then we go to the after party.

And Dick never goes to an after party.

And there's pictures of him at the, like, going into the after party, like

looking for me.

And I was putting my makeup away.

So I didn't, I wasn't even in there yet.

And then people were coming up to me at the party saying, were you talking to Dick Van Dyke?

And I'm like, yeah, what?

I was like,

I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

And then I went to work the next day.

I was working at a makeup school and I told them I met Dick Van Dyke.

And they're like, what?

You know, just, you know, so

going through the crowd, my manager was with me.

What is, what are you doing?

What is the matter?

And I wouldn't tell him.

I got to, I had to find this picture because Dick is all smiles and big eyes.

And then Bob, his publicist, is behind him, just like so puzzled.

Like, he doesn't know what he's doing.

He knows I don't go to a party.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's something you, I don't know if if you wrote it in the book, but in reference to you guys getting together,

it just struck me.

I loved it.

That was me coughing, not breaking up in tears.

Sorry.

Although it's a wonderful phrase.

You said in reference to being a widower

and then

finding love again that a happy heart is a horrible thing to waste.

Did I say that?

Yes, it's a quote.

It's a good quote.

Yeah.

But she's certainly done that for me.

Kept me, you know, alive and working and young.

Yeah.

There's so many beautiful photos of the two of you right here dancing and singing.

You have a water slide outside.

It feels like.

Your Emmy is on the mantle there, which she won for.

producing a bandite special.

All my others are in here.

Well, it feels like you two

have a lot of joy together oh yeah the whole house we have so much fun yeah i'm assuming a lot of laughter oh yeah

boy do we laugh a lot yeah where did you how did you two meet um here and there hollywood style married to other people um henry winkler

barbecue in his backyard, birthday party,

and an audition.

I auditioned to play Mary's husband in Cross Creek.

Did not get it, thank God, because I was a mess and she wouldn't have even seen me.

And then later we made a movie together.

Oh, you did work together.

Yeah,

we did.

I had just announced to everybody that would listen that I was done with love, that I look like someone who would be good at love, but I'm actually terrible at love.

And I have two beautiful children.

I'm finished.

Phineette, no more.

Then I work with him.

Then I fall in love.

So, but that was 31 years ago.

Yeah.

Awesome.

Happy to be wrong about that.

Yes.

Yeah, I couldn't bear to live alone.

I'm not alone.

Oh, my God.

I can't stand my life.

But I think people

grow.

spiritually or whatever in the real big way.

They grow in different ways.

I have to grow in relationship.

My growth comes from my relationship with Mary.

Yeah.

I can't imagine.

Emotionally, I mean, maturity and wisdom.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And just

following new paths together and inspiring each other.

You know, something I've noticed hitting 99,

when you get to a certain age, you suddenly realize you can nail people

after a couple of sentences.

I can tell you who somebody is on meeting them.

There are certain mannerisms, and I don't know what it is, but I can nail somebody almost immediately.

And it comes, I think, with age, dealing with people.

It's interesting.

You don't think you were able to do that when you were younger?

No.

No, I got taken quite a lot around that.

Oh, you did.

You're very naive and innocent.

Yeah.

Which is good, which is good.

It's good to be that way.

Yeah, I'm getting pretty suspicious these days.

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Can I ask a question about you and another one of my heroes, Fredis Thair?

Yeah, he came to visit me on the set of Bye-bye Birdie.

And I had on my best suit.

And I've got a picture with him where I look like Emmett Kelly next to him, you know, and he was so well tailored, but he liked my dancing and just blew me away.

Wow.

That I was an amateur.

He said, I like the way you move.

Oh, my God.

That must have meant the world.

You heard him talk on the radio about that.

Yeah.

And yeah, I heard him on the radio say he liked the way he liked the kid from Westside Story.

Westside Story.

Yeah.

And he said, I like the way Dick Van Dyke moved.

I wish I had that recording.

And now we're trying to find out.

I have a letter that somebody sent me, a friend of Charlie Chaplin's, in which, in the middle of it, he said, Have you seen Dick Van Dyke?

Charlie Chaplin.

That's amazing.

Wow, I've got that pinned on the wall.

You have Star Laurel letters too of him talking about.

Oh, yeah, letters from Stan.

We should have a music.

Our house is too small.

We have, I have so many things cool like that.

Yeah.

You remember Jacques Tati?

Yes.

Yes, friend.

I was working in Paris, and I kept trying to find him.

I wanted to meet him.

And they said he was a hermit, that he would come into a drugstore and take some candy and leave and not pay for it.

He was known for that.

And they just led him,

but he was, I couldn't find him.

He was like a shadow.

I never got to meet him.

The movies are like Mr.

Hooly's

holiday or something.

Mr.

Hoover's holiday.

Yes.

And all mine.

He wouldn't speak.

Never spoke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It just blew me away.

He was so good.

Yeah.

Did you ever see Marcel Marceau?

Yes.

Yes.

When he was working down at the village,

he was appearing.

I made every Wednesday matinee, every one.

I'd go back and watch him.

Finally, I got to meet him.

Got ass backstage, and he turned into Henny Youngman.

Yeah, that's who he is.

It's like a release for him.

But we're we're going to do an hour mime show together.

Yeah.

And he died on me.

Yeah.

We were going to all do mime.

And I was so excited about it just to be, you know, put up there with him.

And he died at a rather young age.

And I missed it.

What else did I miss?

People dying on me.

Not much.

We're outliving everybody.

We're going to

do odd couple.

That was one of your favorite people working with him.

I loved him.

I worked with him a few times.

Yeah, he was so great.

We did Elf together.

Oh, he was Santa Claus in Elf.

We'll talk a little bit.

Can we ask you about a couple of movies like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, which I love?

Was that a wonderful experience?

Oh, yeah.

You know,

Mary Poppins took inside of four months and Shitty Bang Bang took over a year.

But we had to leave England and go to Europe just to get some sun.

It was raining too much.

Too much rain and clouds.

You couldn't get any light.

So we're going through what's supposed to be the English countryside and their vineyards, the French vineyards, actually.

We did all that shooting in France.

Yeah, it took forever to do, but I loved every minute of it.

I just loved it.

Lionel

Jeffries.

Lionel Jeffries, wonderful.

Wonderful guy.

We had such a friendship, but he was younger than me.

He played my father.

He was five years older.

Was he really?

Oh, goodness.

Great cast.

A lot of fun.

Really good cast.

You know, that car was a big, heavy thing.

It had a four-cylinder engine in it.

So you really couldn't get going very good.

Was it like the original?

Was that a real car?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

There's a couple of them around the country now.

Yeah, it was perfect, just beautiful.

Yeah.

Well, the one from the special was a replica.

There's a lot of replicas from the special.

Yeah.

People just make

it.

Everything was beautiful.

But can they go into the ocean?

Like no, yeah.

Yeah.

It was about four cylinders and it took forever to get going, but once we did, it was fun.

You know that special, the CBS special.

We celebrated you, but it was so amazing to see all the actors there.

We're so excited to be there, to be able to either perform for you

or talk to you or acknowledge you in some way.

You have so many people whose lives

you delighted and changed, but also actors who wanted to emulate

you and your movement, your voice, your spirit, spirit, your spirit that you put out, Dick, is just that energy of love and interest.

It comes from doing what you love to do, you know, if you're having a good time.

Everything I, I didn't do anything where I really was miserable.

You know, bye-bye, Birdie, the movie was kind of a drag because we couldn't make it what it had been.

So, did you, can I ask, because that's the second time you've said that, was your part messed with?

Was it shortened?

Was it why was it so different that you didn't like it as much as the

well, the

Anne Margaret part was rather small on Broadway.

And they wrote special songs for her and took other songs out.

And it just changed the whole piss of everything.

Gotcha.

Yeah, Paul was really pissed all the time.

But that was just kind of his nature.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it's, it's, I didn't get to see the play,

but it was a wonderful movie.

A lot of people like the movie, and it makes me laugh when people come up to him because they know how much he doesn't like it.

Yeah, so but if people like it, so I'm one of those, yeah, just go with it.

Um, and Mary Poppins.

So, um, where was Mary Poppins?

Was that after Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang?

No, before it was before, yeah, that's how uh Cubby Brockney came to me about Chitty after I'd done

Poppins, thinking I'd be good for the part.

and i said and have you heard my british

actually

when sean connery left uh the the bond series

cubby wanted me to play it that's what i mean he said why don't you do it

i said have you heard my british accent

he said click

yeah i love that you said that Your dialogue coach for that was Irish and his accent wasn't any better.

Yeah,

Pat O'Malley.

Pat O'Malley, who had a thick Irish accent.

He came into my house one night after dinner for a couple of hours, and that was it.

That was it.

Yeah,

Americans tease me a lot, but strangely enough, the British don't.

They tease me a little bit, you know, because it was no accent of any kind.

It was charming.

It was still just one of the glorious performances.

Oh, my God.

It was so singing, the dancing, two roles.

You did two roles that people

don't even know that he was.

I love that story, too.

That to play the older

in the bank, the banker.

Banker.

The banker.

Yeah.

To play that part, which you came to the director or the producer and said, I think I should play it.

Why don't you let me know?

Walt Disney.

Yeah.

Oh, Walt Disney.

That's it.

You spoke to Walt Disney and he said no.

And

then you said, well, I'll do it for nothing.

It'll be free.

Right.

And he said, no.

And then you said, I'll pay you thousand dollars okay

but i did a uh screen test i made myself up and got out in front of what was the the house the bank's house right and sang a little song i think what sold it at the end of the song i went over and pretended to pee in the bushes that broke all walled up he just wasn't i think that gave me the part yeah and then i did an old man and um what mary poppin's returns Yeah, that's right.

You pay a lot of money.

That was Emily.

That one

Emily.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, she was so great.

Yeah.

But I had been working with a young couple.

Oh, Didi

and Mark Brough.

A couple who had been working with me on the show for a couple of dance numbers.

And I mentioned them to Walt.

He said, Do you know anybody?

I said, I think these kids are good.

So he hired them.

They did that.

And then they did Shitty Bang Bang with me.

Wow.

And then the Sherman brothers wrote both.

Right.

And they came up with so many,

wore me out.

And was working with

Julie just glorious.

She's a sweetheart.

But a lady through and through.

She really is a British lady.

You know, she doesn't let out her hair very often.

I hear she does.

I'm sure she does.

The

opening number in Shitty,

Mio Bamboo.

Yes.

Where we have to jump over the stick and death.

Yes.

Every take, one guy would miss.

We did 24 or five takes.

Wow.

And

I made it every time.

And these guys, they were half my age, but you'll notice that I catch it on my heel and go

and I push it through, but I knew I couldn't do another one.

And we just watched that this morning.

And I think it's one take.

It's just one frame.

That whole dance, they don't cut into it.

No, they don't cut.

It's just you.

Yeah.

So you had done it 22 more times than the one we saw.

That was the 23rd day.

Yeah.

I can't imagine.

It's

just why we were on the stage and we're doing a twist thing.

Two of the dancers actually split something during that step.

This with the leg going like that.

Yeah.

I can't tell you nobody.

And the thing where you they go back and forth and you're jumping.

I love that stuff.

I just loved it.

I don't know why you didn't didn't study dancing when I was a kid.

You wrote that that was the hardest dance you'd ever.

Oh, yeah.

I think it's better that you didn't because you're unique.

You know, that's if you would have trained, they would have said, stop doing that.

You're right.

And you would have been like everybody else.

It's better that you didn't.

Tell me about this gentleman behind us.

He's peering over your shoulder.

I'm never that tall.

How did you get that?

Was that in the movie?

No.

This is from the movie ride, the the oh, from Disney World,

and they were closing it down.

They asked us if he wanted his chimney suite.

We're like, Yes,

nice,

and it came in a chip with a chimney, and he said, Well, and he was sitting on the chimney, and we said, Well, we can't, we have nowhere to put that, so we got it made into a standing.

There he is.

I know we said we'd only be here for a little while, but I have to mention uh a show I was doing called Becker, where you played, came in and played my father.

Oh my God, that's right.

And it was, you know,

clearly I worship you.

And I told you you were the beginning of this.

It was even before I started acting that I saw you trip over the altar.

God, almighty.

But then you played my father.

And

I think the rest of the cast absolutely sucked that week because we never got to rehearse.

We just asked you questions.

Tell us more stories.

Tell us more about it.

A really story didn't?

Yeah.

That's right.

We did do a show.

I never saw him more excited, more moved, more honored than the week he got to work with you.

You know, the funny thing is you get to an age when you really don't care how you look anymore.

You have to keep in mind I might get a job.

So I have to keep trimming the beard and trying to look nice.

We only lose

weight and get into shape shape and really exercise when there's a movie part that just came around

then it's like oh boy you really whip it

that's right but a lot of people are just so stiff and everything from not moving and it's so easy getting the water yeah did you see my slide out there mary spotted it right away i love the water slide by the way oh my grandkids go crazy i bet because it's fast it just zooms around

yeah Yeah.

Let me ask you one more thing about

it.

I can't imagine outliving all your friends.

I know the answer to why you're so happy and cheerful.

It's you, Arlene, would be my guest.

Exactly.

But it must be hard not to be depressed about loss and grief.

Yeah, every one of them.

All my guys from my hometown are gone.

Everybody I knew here, all my buddies are gone.

Everyone.

Bob Newhart was the last.

And there's just nobody to even pick up the phone and call.

Yeah, I hate that.

So I'm trying to make younger friends.

Yeah, you got two here.

You got two.

I don't know how younger we are, but

not that much younger.

But,

and, and I'm, was it hard when you were first together for you with the age difference, not so much what you felt, but what people projected onto you?

I don't, I feel like everyone was happy about it it was it was weird how it

i think if it wasn't dick van dyke you know it's he's kind of an easy sell i don't know and um he's so youthful and anyway happy for him happy for him yeah so it was um

they wanted to see him happy and i don't know just

it never really was a big issue yeah thank god i mean i was terrified when it you know came out that i think there was one article when he was doing his lucky life tour and there was like a mention of me.

I was like, oh my God.

I was just always like thinking it was going to be all this bad.

Well, I tell you, I'm so happy for

my friend Dick Van Dyke that you are in his life.

I don't feel,

you know, not sad, but whatever in any shape or form.

It's so nice to know,

you know, and experience it today.

I get my coffee in bed every morning.

So does she.

So does she.

It's a small thing, but it's very important.

I say thank you.

It means a lot.

Every single cup of coffee I'm so grateful for.

I never let it slide.

Are you

black or do you like a little sweet?

I like sugar in it.

Five cubes of sugar.

Whoa.

Oh, yeah.

You love the sugar.

You love a lot of

oat milk or creamer or what?

Just black.

Just sugar and black.

Wow.

Yeah.

Great.

You let her come by on Halloween.

You really should.

Gosh, it sounds

fun.

Go crazy.

Yeah.

You can be a monster if you want.

Have you ever been in a horror movie, either one of you?

I did the original Creep Show.

You did?

Yeah.

Stephen King,

George Romero.

And I was.

I get killed by

Drowned in the Water by

Leslie Nielsen.

Oh, wow.

Leslie Nielsen, who had, by the way, as a real in life, had a handheld,

pardon my whatever, fart machine.

Yes, I've heard it.

And he was relentless.

We actually got asked to get off a plane because we were sitting in first class and we had been boarded first.

And every person who came by, he'd squeeze off a handheld fart.

And finally, and he was asked to stop.

And he wouldn't.

So we were asked to get off the plane.

Daddy Morgan.

I'd heard that story.

Yeah, Daddy.

He was a guy who wasn't really funny, but they made him.

Oh my God.

Airplane is one of the best

movies.

Airplane.

And the second one was

Airplane 2 was nothing.

And the first one was, it's

still watch it and see new things in it.

Which is great.

We never have any company or anything.

That's so nice.

That's wonderful.

You made our day.

Well, you made our

year because

this was really special.

So you're not that far away are you no oh good yeah well you got to come by more often yeah do you imbibe alcohol still or no no what am i saying i just did that whole thing well we don't either been there done all the alcohol we have here people keep giving it

alcohol yeah would you like a little drinky dick just a little bit right can't believe it won't hurt you you have

you have drank a little movie at it you have had a little wine like if he wants if a little but he does he's beyond not to worry that just was edited out

and then dick

goes back to rehab i had a rehab in a place downtown called the uh

mission midnight mission midnight mission which is one of the best in the world i spent a couple of weeks there and sobered up and i used to go down a lot you know and visit the people, but since COVID, I've gotten a little leery about that.

Yeah.

I used to go just table hop on Sunday to pass out.

Midnight Mission, homeless, it's a homeless.

Yeah, and mostly homeless, of which there are a lot more.

Oh, my God.

There are people with kids living in their cars.

You don't know how many of those there are.

It's insane.

I remember the Depression.

You know, there are a lot of guys we call tramps, come to the back door for a handout, but there weren't that many of them.

They all hung out down at the railroad tracks.

But there's so many more now

than there ever were the depression.

Wasn't your grandfather a railroad man?

He worked in the shop at the CNEI Chicago and Eastern Illinois Railroad.

And he was slight like I am, but he had huge forearms from working things.

I thought they got Popeye from him.

Because I saw Popeye say, it's a grandpa.

He was a slight little man, big arms from all that kind of work.

Right, he was your biggest influence on me, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of grandparents and great-grandparents on both sides, a lot of long-lived people, and I'm the one that's lived the longest now.

Wow, my mom made it just short of 96,

so yeah, I've got them all beat.

Your background is it from Holland, the Netherlands, yeah, yeah, yeah, same as me, yes, Steve Birchen is too Van Dyke.

Yeah, I went to Amsterdam once, and the phone book is nothing but Van Dyke.

And you say you're half Irish?

Is that what you say?

McCord.

That's Irish, isn't it?

That was my mother's made me.

Well, I'm 100%.

Both of my, all my family's from Ireland, and you always say that you're half Irish.

M-A-C is Scottish, and just MC, I think, is Irish, I think.

Oh, now you're backing up on your claims.

Well, I'm half Irish.

You've been so generous with us.

Thank you.

I love talking about myself.

We're all so happy that we got to be here.

We'll be right back after these words.

That was astounding.

As you heard, he's been one of my heroes since I first got introduced to the idea of acting at all.

So that was just remarkable.

And I'm so glad we got to share it together.

What was it like for you?

That was a privilege, just a delight.

I loved it.

Thank you for including me.

Thank you, Team Coco.

And I loved that experience.

I appreciate it.

Did you love it so much?

You might come back and do that again?

Maybe.

Yeah.

Okay, we got a maybe.

I'll go with that.

Once again, please consider getting to World Central Kitchen.

And you can do that by by visiting wck.org.

So, thank you, that was fun.

Thank you.

That's it for this episode.

Hello to Woody, and thanks to our friends at Team Coco.

As always, you can subscribe to our show on your favorite podcast app and give us a great rating if you're in the mood, and a review on Apple Podcasts if you have some time.

Thank you very much.

See you right back here next week where everybody knows your name.

Bye, Woody.

Bye, everyone.

Bye, Woody.

You've been listening to where everybody knows your name with Ted Danson, Woody Harrelson, sometimes.

The show is produced by me, Nick Leo.

Executive producers are Adam Sachs, Colin Anderson, Jeff Ross, and myself.

Sarah Fedorovich is our supervising producer.

Our senior producer is Matt Apodaka.

Engineering and Mixing by Joanna Samuel with support from Eduardo Perez.

Research by Alyssa Grawl.

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Special thanks to Willie Navarre.

We'll have more for you next time where everybody knows your name.

We have to do a sign-off here.

Don't we say goodbye?

Dick, you start the sign-offs.

How do you do it?

I don't know.

That's why I'm making you start.

My days in radio weird.

This is a sign-off, 7330.

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