Ari Goes to Guatemala w/ Ethan McKenzie | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

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Speaker 2 okay you got any questions before we start

Speaker 2 me yeah

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 hmm no none of it matters none of it matters we're just it's just like two friends talking about our fun time

Speaker 2 that's all it really is first thing that popped into my head when you asked me any question yeah something in this situation is like why are you gay what have you seen the meme why are you gay nobody like the african guy and they're like he's interviewing like the transgender lady like this is a while ago and they're like rural right wing and he's like

Speaker 2 so you are

Speaker 2 Why are you gay?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I saw that one.

Speaker 2 Why are you gay? Who says I am gay? You are gay, you are transgender.

Speaker 2 Why are you gay? It was a classic. I was from school, and I remember being a lot.
Dude, I remember some of those African like

Speaker 2 interviews because there's so much in a different time. They're just like, you must meet your wife to let her know.
And you're like, you know, you're on camera.

Speaker 2 Like, yes, I tell the people, you must meet your wife on Thursdays and Wednesdays only. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, what? Why Are you okay?

Speaker 2 They really didn't understand it.

Speaker 2 He was like, I don't get any of this. Where you been and where are you going?

Speaker 2 This is our Reese Travel Show. Yeah, we're going to talk about travel today.
It's you be trippin'. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hey, everybody, welcome to You Be Trippin'. It's a travel podcast.
Me and a guest take you to a strange place across the globe every week.

Speaker 2 It's the only podcast that serves 100% fresh wallaby meat to every guest on the podcast. And today I have my friend Ethan McKenzie on.

Speaker 2 We're in the Gold Coast. We're in Gold Coast

Speaker 2 of Australia, of New South Wales. Queensland.
Queensland. Queensland.
Ethan, where are we going today? We're going to Chi-Chi in Guatemala. A trip we took together.
Okay, so

Speaker 2 let's talk about Chi-Chi. Chi-Chi.
Or just like, how did we meet? I remember when I met you. The Kiwi Hostel.
Kiwi Hostel, yeah. Yeah, it was sick.
You were playing.

Speaker 2 you you i did you have weed no i remember um

Speaker 2 yeah maybe i had just gotten there yeah i think i might have yeah no i remember i was in the in the uh

Speaker 2 i was in the um

Speaker 2 kitchen just eating a sandwich and you walked in getting a tour

Speaker 2 and i was like ethan and you're like ari and i was like all right and then i saw you upstairs and uh

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then you were just sitting with people and I went up there and we just started chatting and smoked a joint I think and then dude do you ever go like first day at a hostel where you're like, I don't know anybody?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's like kind of uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 But then

Speaker 2 pretty quickly, everybody's like very open.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Depends how I'm feeling.
Like, if I'm feeling social or if I'm with someone, it's like instantly just straight into it.

Speaker 2 But sometimes if I'm like keeping to myself, I'm like not wanting to socialize at all. And I might like not socialize for like four days or depends what I'm doing around how long I stay.
But yeah,

Speaker 2 I'd come from Guatemala City, gotten on one of those cabs, and they're like, because they're like, get the fuck out of Guatemala City as soon as you can. Yeah, yeah.
That was every warning.

Speaker 2 I was like, okay. And then I landed there, got to that.
No, wait. I was in Antigua first.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure. Wait, what city was this?

Speaker 2 The one that we're in? That we met. Oh, that was in

Speaker 2 no.

Speaker 2 That was not in Antigua. That was in Shella.
That was in Shella. Yeah, Shella, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know why I went there?

Speaker 2 You weren't meant to go there, right? No, there was a Simpsons episode.

Speaker 2 There was a Simpsons episode where they had a chili cook-off. Yeah, yeah.
And the sheriff was like,

Speaker 2 was way into

Speaker 2 like, he's making chili that could hurt Homer. Yeah, yeah.
Nothing what else. And he goes,

Speaker 2 yeah, he goes, the merciless chili peppers of Quetzalzaca Tenango. No way.
Yeah, grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of the Guatemalan and San Asylum. Hey, is she out? No, she's still in.

Speaker 2 Yeah. By the Guatemalan insane asylum.
And I was like, I got to find these chili peppers of Quetzalzaca Tenango. And then they're like, there is a city, Quetzaltaco, or whatever.
Quetzal Tenago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, what?

Speaker 2 So good enough reason as any. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you eat one of those chilies? Yeah, they weren't really. Oh, really? Yeah, I think it was just a writer's fiction.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Chells.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then you told me about Atitlan. Lake Atlan.
Yeah, and a fucking sick hostel, which I was going to Atilan anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But you're going to go more near San Pedro area. Yeah.
Yeah. Which I did, but I stopped in.
It's so big, that lake. It's so bad.
You don't understand.

Speaker 2 You think of a lake and you're like, whatever, I'll do it. And you're like, no, no, there's cities.
Yeah. Different unrelated cities.

Speaker 2 So many, like, big ones, yeah. And then, like, little ones as well.
Did you go freediving with Tim? Did you ever do it? No, I didn't. Yeah.
I made it to the embardon though.

Speaker 2 I just never saw the appeal to it. I should have probably done it, to be honest.
He asked me, and I was like, nah, I'm good. And then, like, he got ready and he came back.
He goes, you sure?

Speaker 2 And I was like, you know, when you have enough time to think. I'm like, Yeah, why don't I do it? Yeah, you should, yeah, yeah.
No, you, you should, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 It was like that waterfall we went on, yeah, we cut in the wrong place. Let's go behind the waterfall

Speaker 2 in Australia. We're here in Australia, everybody.
Yeah, we're in the Gold Coast, and it was like, No, we're not allowed to go. And you're like, You sure? Like, yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 He's like, Are you sure? I was joking. I was like, Hey, Ari, do you want to go? Because I know that would make you like want to go, but I wasn't even going to go.
You weren't going to go?

Speaker 2 No, fucking hell. You started going.
I was like, Yeah, let's do it. I mean, I was like, no, no.
And then I'm like,

Speaker 2 it will be fun. Yeah.
But I'm like, there's like sharp rocks, danger, will die.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you never know if there's like a landslide and that actually is unstable, or is it like one of those ones where like it's just a bit too dangerous for like a lot of public people going through and it's fine.

Speaker 2 Right. Yeah.
Or like use your best judgment. Or right, it's not raining currently.
Yeah, just like that tree. Just like that tree.

Speaker 2 Yeah. A ladder up the tree.
Yeah, but man, we had a blast in

Speaker 2 Quetzaltaka, whatever, Quetzal Taranga. Jella? Chella, yeah.

Speaker 2 That was a lot of fun, that hostel. Yeah.
Just walking around. You helped me find weed.
Yeah, and yeah, yeah. I'm so nervous to find weed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just go to any of those guys just making jewelry in the streets, and they'll be able to get you some. It is pretty.
Like, when you think about it in hindsight, you're like, oh, right, of course.

Speaker 2 A guy making jewelry

Speaker 2 with like dreads. Yeah.
Like, yeah. Well, like, they all would smoke weed.

Speaker 2 They're not necessarily there to deal weed, but they all, you know, what they're doing there is to make money selling jewelry.

Speaker 2 But they know that they can make some money selling you weed, you know, by buying some off some guy, selling it to you with slightly higher. Yeah, still cheap for us, you know.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I was in that mode of like bargain, and I was like, no, that's crazy. And then he was like, it's the price.
And I'm like,

Speaker 2 still pretty fucking cheap. Yeah.
It's like I was bargaining for pennies. Yeah.
It's fine. And I also desperately needed it.
Where else am I going to find it? I'm still frightened to find some.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 But then,

Speaker 2 but then, so we split up. But that was a fun fucking week.
That festival was in

Speaker 2 the hot springs.

Speaker 2 Hot Springs in the Jungle. Hot Springs in the Jungle was fucking sick.
Yeah, went to the little

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 ones you have to pay a little bit extra to go down there. The little extra was very little extra.
Yeah, like $2. It was like $2 extra.
Yeah, yeah. And it was like all alone.

Speaker 2 One other guy, a couple, maybe. But that was only a little bit, yeah.
It was four different hot springs, colder and colder and colder.

Speaker 2 And it's like the cliffs on the either side of like, you're in like an alley sort of thing. Yeah, do you still have pictures of that? Yeah.
I put pictures up on that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're in like, it's like, it's like King Kong. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we're just hoping that it was so fucking cool. So hot.
So

Speaker 2 fucking hot.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was weird. Like, yeah, it's like, you're in the, it was kind of like you're in some Amazon sort of.
How did we get out there? We took a bus? We got a ride or we took an Uber?

Speaker 2 We Ubered initially there. And then we had no return.
I left my jacket in the Uber and he happily took that one. Tried to get a ball.
Yeah, of course, right?

Speaker 2 I tried to like talk, you know, submit a thing through Uber and they're like, nah. And you're like, dude, come on, it's a name-brand jacket.
And he goes, oh, sick, nice. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 It was, like, $5, but I really liked it. I got it from, like, an op shop.

Speaker 2 A second-hand thrift store. Did I go with you to that crazy, crazy thrift store? Thrift market, the $1 pile?

Speaker 2 In one of the bus stations or something. Oh, yeah, maybe.
And it's like a dollar pile. And it's a pile that it looks like the fucking shoes in the Holocaust moment.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, my God.
And it's like a buck. Yeah, you actually have some good stuff in there.

Speaker 2 I found this button-up tee that was like, you'd get that from like a thrift, like a good vintage thrift store for like $20. Really? Yeah, and I wore it the whole time.

Speaker 2 Every time I wore it, someone's like, that's a nice shirt. And I was like, I got that for one Quetzal, which is like 12 cents.
It does. Oh, yeah, it's one Quetzal.
It wasn't one dollar.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was one Quetzal. Yeah, Quetzal.
Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you're almost like, I don't know if it'll fit. Like, who cares? Then just give it away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I got a few things and just gave them to people. To mates.
That was cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, that place rules.
What was the what food do you remember in

Speaker 2 Guatemala? Oh.

Speaker 2 Testadas. I remember, didn't we go out? Like, we weren't around at nighttime and we like tried some of the food.
You got the tostadas, you got um

Speaker 2 well, they just got like the normal meals where you just have like rice, salad, and like a piece of meat. That's like a meal.
But if you want to get like the special stuff.

Speaker 2 Remember how you had that like it was like a banana ball with like beans in it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I made you try one of those and you're like, this is weird.
It was weird. I didn't care for it too much.

Speaker 2 What was that called? Do you remember? No. Yeah, no way.

Speaker 2 Mashed banana with beans in it

Speaker 2 you're like try this it's strange but take a chance and you're like okay yeah

Speaker 2 that was and they also had like all that oh that was like some event happening oh that was yeah it was a festival because i was like is this always like this and you're like no i've been here for like a month it's not always like this yeah it just got going yeah yeah it was yeah i don't know what was going on but yeah it was some festival for like not for new year's or some some christmas related

Speaker 2 december christmas right no they had all the christmas lights in the main square and stuff yeah yeah all the Christmas things are happening. Yeah.
It's fucking cold there as well.

Speaker 2 It was cold there.

Speaker 2 Good hiking. I remember you told me, you were like, which hikes are you doing? I'm like, I don't know.
Do you remember this? Yeah, I don't remember. And you're like, what were you planning on doing?

Speaker 2 I'm like, is there hiking here?

Speaker 2 And you were like, did you do any research? And I'm like, no. I just look for direct flights from Boston.

Speaker 2 And Guatemala was on the list.

Speaker 2 That's alright, though. Yeah.
Yeah. It's kind of fun, like, doing like that sometimes, you know.

Speaker 2 But I found out, still did it. Yeah.
Fuego. Yeah, mate.
Fuego was cool. Akatenango.
Climbing up Akatenango and then watching Fuego. Did you actually get, did you climb a hike across to Fuego as well?

Speaker 2 No. Did you? You did.
No, no, no, no. Well, you're nuts.
I know. I regret not going, actually.
But I was up there for two nights, Jay, with just my mates.

Speaker 2 That was fun. We made a campfire.
Two nights. Oh, my God.
The wind rips through it.

Speaker 2 The craziest thing is you're up there halfway.

Speaker 2 It's this volcano is just going off constantly every like 30 seconds. Nah, it wouldn't be that

Speaker 2 10 minutes. No, more, less.
Depends, I guess. When you're at the base, when you see it in Antigua, you can just see it pop off.
And you're like, I'll stand here for a minute. It's going to go again.

Speaker 2 It won't go every minute, though. Definitely doesn't go.
When I went there, it was every 10 minutes. Maybe when you were there, maybe, because it does change, like, how frequent it happens.

Speaker 2 Sometimes people go and they'll see it twice.

Speaker 2 Because it maybe does like a big eruption and then for the next but just little smoke going off. It's like smoke.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then you get up close and then you come around this bend and the guide, it was just me and two Canadian chicks. And this guy was like, look.
And we're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Because then you see how big it is. But he goes, wait.
Because when the sun goes down, you realize it's all red. Yeah.
You just can't see it in the sun. It's like molten rock.
Molten rock. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is a bit. It's a wig out.

Speaker 2 That's on my trip, that was probably the

Speaker 2 that must have been the coolest experience ever. That hike sucked.
Yeah, it was. If I knew what the hike was going to be, I would not have done it.
It was straight up.

Speaker 2 It was straight uphill for six hours yeah yeah it was horrible yeah but surely you know they uh watching the larva on top of that mountain was just one of the coolest things in your life yeah let me see this

Speaker 2 yeah it's gone yeah i this up a lot

Speaker 2 just everything just everything really i fuck up quite a quite a bit just like planning for guatemala yeah um yeah exactly hi everybody i'm gonna break into today's episode to let you know a little bit about the guest he's not a comedian uh he's just a cool guy, Ethan McKenzie.

Speaker 2 He took me into his home. Well, I guess his brother's home, some home he was watching.
We were in the Gold Coast. We had a fucking blast there.
It was a fun time to do this podcast.

Speaker 2 And he was like, when's this coming out? And I was like, buddy, I think I'm going to go back and visit the city we did the podcast about.

Speaker 2 I'm in one of the most pretty cemeteries in the world out here. The same city.
But oh, dude, Ethan, I got to tell you. First of all, right now I'm staying in your favorite hostel.

Speaker 2 I don't want to say the name, but Open Mic Night yesterday was great. I did a magic trick.

Speaker 2 No jokes. Tim is gone.
I think he went back to Australia. They don't know when he's coming back.

Speaker 2 I hung out. I went to the hostel where we met and we first played boo-boo.
Look how pretty this

Speaker 2 cemetery is.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I sat at that table,

Speaker 2 met some Guatemalans. I was like, why do you guys drink at this bar? And they were like,

Speaker 2 well, it's the only place we can

Speaker 2 smoke.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 yeah, they were just cool. I told us about, oops, people are coming.
I get embarrassed doing this. Told us about their, they asked us about Trump.
And then I said, I'll tell you anything.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter what political party you're into. If somebody asks you about your

Speaker 2 politics from your home, just say they're terrible. And then go, how do you feel about yours? And I did that.
And they go, oh, we think they're terrible as well. So corrupt.

Speaker 2 We gotta corruption on this. Guatemalan ruling class because light on crime or they take bribes from the rich.
They're straight up bought out by rich companies.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh yeah, we got that too, bro. We got the same thing here.

Speaker 2 One of the advisors of our fucking leaders, one of the richest men of the world.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 I'm gone. I don't really know anything.

Speaker 2 What was I going to tell you?

Speaker 2 But I got to go against the sun for a second. Sorry, guys.
I'm in the shade.

Speaker 2 But let's use my eyes.

Speaker 2 But everybody I meet here when they're trying to sell me something, because it's market day, I came from market day, a way, way different vibe. But everyone's trying to sell me something.

Speaker 2 I was like, I got no space. And they're like, why? You got space right in there.
I'm like, no, you don't understand. I'm going to.

Speaker 2 It's not space like that. It's a different kind of space.

Speaker 2 But I was like, they're like, do you know about whatever, this city? And I go, yeah, I was actually here.

Speaker 2 Aviaje,

Speaker 2 a viage,

Speaker 2 dos años pasado

Speaker 2 para

Speaker 2 festos de Santos Más. And they were like, no.
And I was like, oh, it's so different, right? And they're like, yeah, it really is. And I was like, with the bombas, I don't even call them fireworks.

Speaker 2 I call them bonbas because that's what they are. They're just massive bombs and all this stuff.
So

Speaker 2 let's go back to the episode. Back to Gold Coast and whatever and talking about this crazy festival.
Well, let's get back to the,

Speaker 2 hey, buddy, it's okay. Don't worry about it.
You're cool. A lot of beating dogs here, clearly.
Um,

Speaker 2 but I'm in the cemetery. I'm gonna go find the church where all the fireworks went off, where I already took all those pictures to see how different it is on Market Day.
But also, um,

Speaker 2 since I'm in the cemetery, one thing Ethan and I found was a massive pile of garbage. And I don't mean pile, I mean like they filled up a cliff.
And I've been walking around, um,

Speaker 2 yeah, there it is. I just found it actually.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 I just found it, and uh,

Speaker 2 dude, I had a blast so far. I miss Ethan.

Speaker 2 Let me...

Speaker 2 How do I get to this thing? How do I get to this thing? Okay. Esaki.
Estamosaki.

Speaker 2 This is a pile of trash. Ethan, I figured out finally why it is no longer super, super bad.
Guys, it goes all the way down there. I mean, deep into it.
But Ethan,

Speaker 2 I figured it out. Here's how they get rid of it.

Speaker 2 They just burn it. This can't be good for me to breathe in.
They just burn all the garbage. And their garbage goes like all the way.
I'm going to hold my breath and do this, but

Speaker 2 all the way down there. You see it?

Speaker 2 I'm not clear of it yet. All right, let's get back to the episode.
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Speaker 2 And please get some merch. Why don't you get some merch? I put up a, okay, I'm asking people now to try to find one of those you'd be chicken stickers, shipper stickers in the wild.

Speaker 2 I put up some stuff. I put up up in the

Speaker 2 largest, what did we get?

Speaker 2 The largest, oh damn, I thought I had stickers. Oh well.
Oh, I do.

Speaker 2 Largest Mayan ruin.

Speaker 2 Put up one of these. You'd be tripping sticker.

Speaker 2 I put one up at the hostel you and I met at.

Speaker 2 Ethan, I I put up the one I'm staying at now, your favorite hostel in Guatemala, in the bathroom outside the eating area.

Speaker 2 Guys, get yourself some stickers and put them up all over the world. And if you see one, if you see one in the wild, take a picture of it.

Speaker 2 And if it's one that I put up,

Speaker 2 tag us on Instagram. And if it's one that I put up,

Speaker 2 I got to do something for you.

Speaker 2 I got to do something for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. If you're the first one to find it anyway, I'll do something for you.
Also get you've been chipping

Speaker 2 T-shirts, vinyls from Jew, Archphere grinders, fine

Speaker 2 quality goods.

Speaker 2 Look how pretty this fucking cemetery is. Even with the trash being burned.
It's just kind of gorgeous.

Speaker 2 Jew vinyls.

Speaker 2 Go for a hike shirts. Unfortunately, I do not have any Chele Ju shirts, but I will tell you, Dale, Dale, Dale, Super Chivo, Dale.

Speaker 2 Now let's get back to the episode. Ethan McKenzie, all-around great guy.
Me, no dates. Bye.
I'm going to find the church for the end.

Speaker 2 So then I went to Atlan. I was like, and I looked for this fucking festival.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I was like, what?

Speaker 2 This is what I found for in Ecuador. There's a festival in every region once a month.
Yes. Every region will have one a year.

Speaker 2 The birds out here are fucking wild. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I was like, all right, that's what got me going. Find some festival.
I was like, what's going in December, this place in Chi Chi? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 dude, you're so open. I was like, you want to go? You're like, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, why not? Why not? It's right. Yeah, seeming cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Go there and just check it out. So we got to talk about, first we got to talk about the chicken buses, like getting to these places.
Oh, mate, these chicken buses.

Speaker 2 Did you take any, you took some chicken buses before we met? Yeah, I took it to Northern Town.

Speaker 2 Because I asked the guy who ran kiwi who's pretty fucking cool and he was married to like a non-guatemalan yeah yeah the american guy yeah was he american no she was i think i think he was from guatemala i think he made it spend time in america nah he's american really yeah

Speaker 2 she might have been maybe she was guatemala yeah no i remember i went to that hostel a few times actually in different parts of my trip and i was like uh i'm going to this place because there's shuttles like tourist not tourist shuttles but backpacker shuttles that'll like pull your money and i was like and then you go up there and he goes no no.

Speaker 2 You can get to like

Speaker 2 a change up town, but then you got to take, you got to take chicken buses. I was so frightened.
Really?

Speaker 2 That's fair enough. No, I like it.
It's new. It's so new.
Yeah, yeah. But after being on the chicken bus, you should definitely be frightened.
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.
Good point.

Speaker 2 So it's fair enough, but I don't know. The drivers go nuts.
They go so fast. Yeah, yeah.
There's a guy riding on top, and he like jumps, and he's like, come on, come on, come on, come on.

Speaker 2 He starts yelling at people that are waiting. Like, let's go, let's go.
They don't stop. They just slow down.
These old ladies have to jump on. He's like, Come on, come on, come on.

Speaker 2 They grabbed their hand. They just start fanging around these corners, like, just so fast.
Oh, mate, I remember like there was one I went on, and I think it was from Guatemala.

Speaker 2 They go from Guatemala City to Shella, I think. And they're just, oh, mate, they're just literally speeding around corners.

Speaker 2 And you're actually, they're hitting potholes, like, they don't even try and swerve from them.

Speaker 2 And all the things are flying everywhere in the bus. The old ladies are there just like holding on for dear life.
People are falling over. Like, it actually is nuts.

Speaker 2 Like, it actually is a crazy experience.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I don't know, it's a bit risky, risky, but like I think that's risky.
But it's just one of those crazy things that you can go do in Guatemala, you know, like remember that lifer we met?

Speaker 2 The what? The lifer. The lifer traveler.

Speaker 2 Oh, that old guy? The old guy. Sort of.
I sort of was quick to forget him. He was weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 You got a lot of people weird. I was like, we're from he's like, oh, I've been traveling for 40 years.
Yeah, yeah. He's like, I'm house sitting right now.
He goes, where are you guys from?

Speaker 2 We're like, to Australia and America. I was like, oh, cool.
Yeah. He kind of looked at us weird.
He, they're weird. The lifers are weird.

Speaker 2 I met one guy once in

Speaker 2 Mexico and I was like, oh, where are you from? And he's like, nowhere.

Speaker 2 I'm like, yeah, but you're like, but you are from somewhere. Yeah, like, where were you born? He's like, I'm just from planet Earth, mate.
I'm like, I'm like, yeah, whatever. What a dork.

Speaker 2 You're leaning in too hard. You're leaning in way too hard.

Speaker 2 I understand what you're going for, but like, where were you born?

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then we get there.

Speaker 2 To Chichi. Chi-Chi, yeah, yeah.
I met you in in Atilan. You were like, I'll go up there.
I met you at some like coffee shop. Yes.
And like, let's get going. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we had some food and then we had to. I had a hitchhike down from my town and nobody would t come get me.
And finally someone did. So I was like an hour late.
Yeah, yeah. That's all right.
Sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and we got the bus there. That took a little bit and then the traffic and we got out and walked.

Speaker 2 Yeah. In where? In Chi-Chi, you mean? Yeah, we got to get out early and then walked.
And then we started seeing all the people dressed up in the costumes.

Speaker 2 Talk about the costumes. I remember a goathead guy.
Goathead guy, yeah. Or like a ram or something.
Yeah, there's a few things like that.

Speaker 2 No, it's like, remember that, like, they look kind of like a face of a baby, like a mask. Yeah, a big baby mask.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then they would have like all the different colors and feathers and giant feathers. And feather things coming out all over their body.
It was, yeah, that was. It was so ornate.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was crazy, yeah.

Speaker 2 Was the fireworks already going at that point? Probably.

Speaker 2 Because the thing started the next day.

Speaker 2 There was like the, um, you know, the, like, the cannon one that they shoot shoot off into the air, just like, booze, you know? It was just boom.

Speaker 2 Boom.

Speaker 2 Boom. Yeah, boom.
It would just never stop. I couldn't figure it out until we saw it later.
I think at the start, it was like that every like 15 minutes. Yeah.
Every 15 minutes it was like going off.

Speaker 2 But then, yeah, when we went that one time, it was like every like five seconds when they were like going for it. So I don't know what the festival was.
I have no idea what it was even celebrating.

Speaker 2 Saint Thomas. Oh, was that what it was? Yeah, Saint Thomas.
Saint Thomas.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Saint Thomas. Santo Tomas.
Santa Tomas. Yeah, the Festival of Santo Tomas.
Yeah, but I don't know who that is. I don't know who the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 But he is, it's like around Christmas, so I guess it's like a, yeah, it was definitely a religious thing. So I kind of a vague memory of he was a saint of dogs.
He was the patron saint of dogs.

Speaker 2 I might be mixing up with someone else. Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, definitely, maybe. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not too sure.

Speaker 2 Everybody's dressed up. It was so fucking wild.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And even, yeah, like also traditional people, like with all their traditional clothes as well yeah um which is really cool just it was like a another world yeah it's weird guatemalans i found to be i try to ask for like uh what are really like your less known observations of guatemala i'll tell you mine what shortest people i've in the world

Speaker 2 mine

Speaker 2 they are really short cheap for sure yeah no i would say it's actually more dangerous than you would think interesting Yeah, I would think out of all the countries that I went to, like the whole of Central America, and

Speaker 2 I wasn't in Honduras for too long, but yeah, besides that, Guatemala was the most dangerous. How long did you travel in South America for?

Speaker 2 Like South. Okay, wait.
Well, the whole trip was 19 months, but that was like Mexico, Central, and South. So, like, Central America, South America, 19 months, yeah.
Did I say your name?

Speaker 2 I don't know if I introduced your name. No.
Ethan McKenzie? Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 Welcome, Ethan McKenzie, to the pod. Thank you.

Speaker 2 How long total? It was 19 months, and then I did another month in America at the end and like coming home and stuff. How much did you save up to do that?

Speaker 2 $20 Australian dollars would be.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Australian dollars. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know. American dollars?

Speaker 2 You go by. When I was on the trip, it's just that's the base one because a lot of countries use American dollars.
And then you can... Yeah, well, Ecuador, El Salvador, Panama.

Speaker 2 All use American dollars. Yeah, and you sort of, they use that as like the conversion.
But let's say it was like

Speaker 2 15,000 US maybe for that whole time.

Speaker 2 God damn. Maybe a bit less, maybe, you know.
How'd you make it last?

Speaker 2 Volunteering, yeah. And just travel cheap.
Just like chicken bust. Like, you know how you said you have like the two options?

Speaker 2 For me, there was never another option. It's only whatever the cheapest one that all the locals are using, you know?

Speaker 2 And then it's like that. You would be great at bargaining.
You're like, that's just, nah, that's too much. I look back on some of the bargains that I was running and I feel kind of bad.

Speaker 2 Because like some ladies there probably trying to sell her fruit and I'm like,

Speaker 2 give me one free if I buy 10, you know? Yeah. But not all the time.
And I got a bit better, but like at the start, I was a bit like, I need to save money. But then I was like, I'll just.

Speaker 2 Some of them do rip you off. They'll be like.
No, they do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There was one I was going to buy some peanuts or something, some roasted peanuts, and he hit me with a price. It was like way high.
I'm like, wait, what? It's like eight US dollars. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the guy's like, I'm surprised. I'm like, no.

Speaker 2 And you were like, Ariari, walk away. I'm like, oh, right.
Oh, yeah, right. Walk away.
Yeah. The guy was just like, he saw tall white.
He's like, no, fuck off. Yeah,

Speaker 2 so it's like you have to try and figure out if they're actually just trying to rip you off or maybe they're just giving you a genuine price. And then you bargaining is a bit of a dick move.

Speaker 2 Sure, but if it is, so I was in Ecuador, in the market town in Ecuador, and the tapestry that I wanted for home that I had in the backup drop of a lot of my pods.

Speaker 2 And the guy was like, he was like, sold sort of, it was like $60.

Speaker 2 It's just all right.

Speaker 2 It was like $60 US dollar. I'm like, no fucking way.
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Speaker 2 And I was like, who made it? He goes, I made it. It took me three months.
Yeah. And I was, because he was like, there's no price bargain on this.
And we're like, all right, you're right.

Speaker 2 He didn't make it. He didn't make it.
He's lying. No, I'm just joking.
He might have. He might have.

Speaker 2 He could have been like his nan or something. But those guys are the, they are the bargainers.
Like, they're the ones you do have to bargain with.

Speaker 2 And they are hard to bargain with because everyone knows that. And they all bargain with them.
So. They're ready.
Yeah. And they're like, you think you got a good deal, and you probably still didn't.

Speaker 2 But also, it still is a good deal. It is always still a good deal.
All the stuff I was going to buy, and then I was like, let me wait and buy, I was going to buy a mask.

Speaker 2 I'm like, let me see at the airport how much it is. And it was like, oh, five times as much.
Yeah, yeah. Because the further away you get,

Speaker 2 the less hands it's changed.

Speaker 2 Like, if it's a small, small town and it's a market, they're like, well, these are farmers from right outside here. Yeah, yeah.
And so they sell to someone who takes it to like...

Speaker 2 Antigua, sells for a little more. Or they sell it to Antigua.
They buy it, then they take it to the airport and sell it for more. Oh, the gift stalls.

Speaker 2 Or they they ship it back to America, and they're like, Well, now we're really hella pricing this. Yeah, yep,

Speaker 2 yeah, gifts, yeah. It's good to pick up like random stuff along your trip.
God, it is. You still have that, uh, you still have that, it's in the car, yeah, a little bag.

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Speaker 2 I got Christmas presents for everyone when I came home, and I was the best person in Christmas there. That's nice.
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Speaker 2 baracho yeah like the drunk people yeah yeah yeah i don't see those any other place

Speaker 2 wait what just passed out asleep daytime yeah yeah besides like the clear homeless people somewhere But yeah, no, yeah. In the middle of the year, there was so many of those.

Speaker 2 And no one really judged them. Like, yeah, they got too drunk.
It was market day. They're probably, yeah, yeah, exactly.
They're like, whatever. You just step over them.

Speaker 2 No one's like, oh, are they okay?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, asleep. Just like.
In the middle of like,

Speaker 2 you barely can move yourself. And then, like, everyone, there's a whole crowd just navigating through this one drunk asleep person just in the middle of the group, like the crowd there.

Speaker 2 The sidewalks are less than between me and you right now. Yeah, yeah.
They're like swamp, so you can't get around.

Speaker 2 there's a car coming at fucking 90 miles an hour behind you you know on a nothing street and yeah this guy's just blocking it yeah yeah those were wild so we got there people were already taking off their clothes all these kids like taking off their clothes go for it cough

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Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 and it was just like let's go we've checked into that hotel

Speaker 2 call it a hotel but what I said I called it a hotel but I don't know if oh it's like their house that they've just put a few rooms in eh Yeah. Something like that, I think.
Yeah, she tried to...

Speaker 2 I called ahead.

Speaker 2 And it was... I forget the price.
But I think it was like 80 Quetzal a night, maybe. Yeah, probably nothing.
Nothing much. And then we got there.
I told you this yesterday. And they got there.

Speaker 2 And the lady, it wasn't a guy. The lady was like $120.
And I was like, no, 80. Yeah.
She's like, no, 120. I was like, I called the guy.
He said 12. She goes, no way.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, and it wasn't enough to really bitch because I'm like, I don't. You call my bluff.
I don't want to go to another place right now. It's getting dark.

Speaker 2 Well, not really, but I just wanted to put our stuff down.

Speaker 2 And I was like, fuck, fine. You probably had the added pressure of me being there being like super stingy and whatever.
Uh-huh. True.

Speaker 2 It helped me save having you there. Yeah, but then you would have felt bad being like, I think normally you would have been like, oh, whatever.
Maybe. I don't know.

Speaker 2 But me there being like, what's going on, Ari? You're going to be pushed over.

Speaker 2 You're going to get pushed around, mate. Like, yeah.

Speaker 2 But she came back the next day, that night, and she was like, hey,

Speaker 2 talk to my husband. You were right.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Maybe she was being. I was robbing you.
She was like, I didn't realize you were talking to my husband. I think she talked to him later.

Speaker 2 She didn't say it like that. She's like, esparato, or whatever.
And she just gave me 40. And I was like, I looked in the eye.
I was like, thank you. Yeah, nice.
Yeah. She didn't have to do that.

Speaker 2 She didn't have to. She already got me.

Speaker 2 But she, yeah, they're not like thieves there. They're just like,

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They're not trying to.
Well, the chicken buses are like, they're like that as well. They'll always try and charge you more.
If you're a tourist, you look white or whatever.

Speaker 2 They'll like, it's actually crazy. Like, they'll charge the people.
You'll see them they'll be like, give them like 20,000 or 20, 20, and they'll be like to you, and they'll be like, 40.

Speaker 2 And you're just like, hand them 20, and they're like, no, it's 40. And it's like, I saw you charge everyone else 20, and they're like, no, it's 40 for you.

Speaker 2 And it's like, they're not trying to hide it. Like, Nicaragua, for example, they're like, no, it's 40.
And they'll like pretend not to hit it. Oh, no, because you took a staff from here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they'll be like, no, you got a big backpack. So that's like extra fee or whatever.
Like, they'll try and do like thing. And then, like, you can actually just be like, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 2 Like, no, 20,

Speaker 2 all right, in Nicaragua. And eventually they'll they'll just let it go after maybe like everyone else pays their 40.
But in Guatemala, like, I got yelled at by an old lady.

Speaker 2 She's like, no, stop arguing with this man. It's actually 40 for you.
And I was like, motherfucker. I was like, the public usually sticks up for you, but like this, this lady yelled at me.

Speaker 2 And I was like, shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm always afraid that, like, maybe there is a custom I don't know about. Maybe there is something that I'm like, I'm like, because I've seen people, like,

Speaker 2 it was in Cambodia on some island, and some lady was like not used to in Southeast Asia. I don't don't know how it is in Latin America.

Speaker 2 You would know more than me, but they don't bring your check unless you ask for it at the end of a meal. They're just like, you can just sit here for hours if you want.

Speaker 2 And then when you're like, sir, check, then like, okay. And this lady goes, this white lady goes, we've been sitting.
She went to the manager.

Speaker 2 She goes, we've been sitting here for 20 minutes and the guy will not bring us our check. Like, he's being rude to us on purpose.
And I want to be like, hey, lady, that's the custom here. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 She's not trying to fuck you over. It's just a different society.
Was this in, what was was this? That was in Cambodia. Oh, okay.
But

Speaker 2 I wanted to know if sometimes they're like, no, no, there's an out-of-town price and an in-town price.

Speaker 2 Like at a museum, sometimes you're like, resident pays this much, non-resident. Like, I get it.
Like, charge the tourists more. You know, they're poor, and that's fine.
It's fair enough.

Speaker 2 But, like, I think it's just like an unofficial thing. I don't know.
Because, like, there's many, like, I've been on that bus, that same bus that I did that. I've done it.

Speaker 2 I've taken that bus three or four times and I would pay $20, and they'll be like, $40. And I'd be like, I know it's $20.

Speaker 2 And they're like, okay, it just depends on how how stubborn the other person is. And then that lady yelled at me because she's like, this guy's just trying to, he's rich, he can pay or whatever.

Speaker 2 He's a gringo or whatever.

Speaker 2 I'm like, you know, I'm not actually, like, I'm traveling for so long. I don't actually have that much money.
Like, I'm actually trying, like, sure, I do have maybe, like, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 It's a safety net, but you actually have less than they do. Oh, no, I wouldn't say that, maybe, but

Speaker 2 they are really poor, so it makes me feel kind of bad still.

Speaker 2 Like, I could have just paid 40, but if I'm paying the excess, you you know, like for every bus, like the tourist price, I'll be that's like another week of traveling, you know.

Speaker 2 Well, that's the thing, too. It's like you're going to put that money, you're going to put all 15,000 into South America.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So if they get 600, then that's 480 less than you're going to pay for, or 580 less than you could pay in somewhere in like, you know, Cambodia or whatever, like Colombia.

Speaker 2 That could be like half my flight home. Yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 You just have to leave early. Yeah.
Oh, the flight. So let's get back to Chi-Chi.
Chi-Chi, yeah. So fucking fun.
Dude, that place is... That was the craziest thing, I think.

Speaker 2 It was crazy in a weird way. Like, I did some, like, Akatenga was crazy in that it was, like, spectacular.

Speaker 2 But that was just, there was just so many odd, random, crazy things just happening around you. Like, the guys asleep there,

Speaker 2 like, them just setting off the firecrackers in the middle of the street. Like.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, so much. Okay, we got to talk about the firecrackers.
Because it really was, I call it a, when I tell people, I call it a fireworks festival. And it's not.

Speaker 2 they just also celebrate they're celebrating tomas well yeah that's why that's why they're setting off the firecrackers it's like their it's their sacrifice to sanitomas because you'll see the families buy the firecrackers and bring them to the guys that they'll set them off after each other and they'll be like this is our donation from our family this is our sacrifice to tomas yeah exactly to the gods and whatever the steps on those street on that church yeah was the spot yep and and i didn't because we didn't know where the boomers were coming from until we saw that yeah and then and we'll we'll talk about the fucking big pinwheel in a second and stuff.

Speaker 2 But on those steps of the main church, which is like the tourist thing to two, if not in that season, you go up there and there's people prank.

Speaker 2 There were people crying there at the top of the steps to like Jesus. And then there's people like, what the fuck? You know, that's us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It was hectic. Like, you had to block your ears and like

Speaker 2 close your eyes. You can't look at all the firecrackers because they'll just like.
One of them could hit you in the eye.

Speaker 2 So it was the row where they'd lay it out.

Speaker 2 It was like those strips that stop cars from speeding it's like one of those yeah look yeah well it looks like that yeah and they light it and then just move and it's like

Speaker 2 for like the one of them would go off for maybe like two minutes yeah or something like that or maybe a minute the pictures you took were wild i got a couple of you too yeah you got some of me just i got a video

Speaker 2 probably just going hectic and everyone's just turned around and then i just see you up on the uh up on the stairs so i went back over and then you're there just like tall like double the size of everyone else i'm jealous of the guy they'd seen like the guy, the guy dropping the mortars in.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, and all they would do is light these things, drop them in, and then and plug their ears and move. And it was like within two seconds, boom, I feel like you dropped more, boom.

Speaker 2 I feel like you would get over it after

Speaker 2 it's 10 minutes. You're like, my ears ringing.
He seemed like he was having fun.

Speaker 2 Maybe, yeah. Maybe.
He's like that guy. He's like, I'm making the noise.
I'm allowed to make all this noise. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 God, it was so fucking nuts. Just boom, boom, boom.
And it was so fun.

Speaker 2 I think the coolest one was because that was all in that one area. Uh-huh.
Yeah, and just like in that main square, and they were doing a bunch of them.

Speaker 2 But like, I remember, I think it was the first night we were there.

Speaker 2 We were like walking through the streets, and there was like, remember, like, all the people that were dressed up? Yeah. And there was like a parade of like dress up.

Speaker 2 Like the, and it was just like random, like, Disney characters and stuff. Like,

Speaker 2 whatever. Everyone was in their costumes and they're like mascots.
Disney characters. I was like, Scoobadoo and

Speaker 2 do you remember that there was like a five-minute like like parade of like people dressed up?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, I forget details.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
And that was just on the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But, like, for example, like, you take one of the side streets, and there's still like some of those people walking around and stuff. And

Speaker 2 I remember we're just walking, and then this guy's praying with his Bible.

Speaker 2 He's preaching out in the street, and he's going off for like 10 minutes, and everyone's just walking, super crowded street, like, you know, and then he just like lays out this firecracker in the middle of everyone, and he's sort of just like, he just starts light, he just lights it, and then everyone notices, and they just all just like spray move from it and it's just like

Speaker 2 it like goes off like bang bang bang bang bang you know like yeah everyone's just like there he just lights up in the middle of the crowd and it's like what is happening what is happening what is wild yeah we were in a store i was getting a souvenir yeah exactly i was getting a souvenir some nice like a bag or something yeah and um or a mask i'm not sure what i was getting there that's where we got the bags that's where we got the bag the little bags the little bag as well and then you might have gotten some other stuff i got a big one to store stuff in yeah yeah and that lady that was shitty that was a shitty shoddy equipment that was a street one the zipper broke oh did it almost immediately i thought it might have yeah yeah unique yeah yeah but i just needed something to get shit home but anyway we're in the store and the lady in the store she's nice and i was asking her like where was this mage goes my auntie she lives in this whatever whatever she said you know yeah her daughter was there and she goes hey cover your ears She was like, warned us, like, oh, hey, you're out of town here.

Speaker 2 You won't know this. Cover your ears right now.
Yeah, yeah. We're like, what the fuck? Yeah.
And then we went outside and he's about to light it.

Speaker 2 and then he starts lighting and they just all fucking run.

Speaker 2 I got a video of that as well.

Speaker 2 Yeah, oh, I'll show you after. It's really funny.

Speaker 2 And then afterwards, just smoke everywhere and everyone just starts walking through.

Speaker 2 It looked like fucking Beirut during a war.

Speaker 2 The smoke is everywhere.

Speaker 2 Especially on the steps, you're running from it.

Speaker 2 You look like a war reporter in that. Yeah, yeah, it was like that or something.
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Speaker 2 So then it was like, okay, so there's also street stalls everywhere to buy stuff. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then there was like, we went down this long row of street stalls and comes out and it's a fucking theme park. It's a carney theme park.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 we go to the theme park. Yeah, we walked down it because I saw it.
I saw it from the distance. And yeah, you walk along those like stalls all the way until you get there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then yeah, that was really cool as well, like going through all the different things.

Speaker 2 And it was like, sometimes you go to these towns and these, like, they might have like the fair in and whatever. They might have one Ferris wheel and like a few things and whatever.

Speaker 2 But like, this was a big event. So they had like four Ferris wheels and like a bunch of different rides and like bumper cars and stuff.
Like

Speaker 2 you don't see bumper cars in South America too often. Like this was like for them, top of the line sort of like thing, you know.
Wow. Besides Mexico has six flags, but that's a bit different.

Speaker 2 That's different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's like, yeah. I went there.
It was pretty cool. Did you? Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 2 And I was like, why not? But yeah, they had all the Ferris wheels and stuff. And, mate, that first night we went there

Speaker 2 on that machine. Whatever that contraption was.
It was a spinner? It was spin and up a little bit. Yeah, so like, well, yeah, well.
What did it do? Okay, well, the way I explained this story, people.

Speaker 2 I got a lot of it out. Yeah, the way I explained this story, like, we're there and we're like, fuck, let's go on a ride.
Let's just go on one ride. Let's see which one, which one should we go on?

Speaker 2 And then we see this one, and and it

Speaker 2 It looks like you can get into this like little cage and it's like it looks like a cylinder right like a like a cylinder that's on its it's flat and it's circle and it goes upwards or whatever and it looks like it just spins spins around Yeah, and we're like oh that one looks like it could be a good one, you know and then we're waiting waiting for like to see what it looks like and then maybe we can go on it and then we're just waiting so long.

Speaker 2 I remember being like do you want to just get on and just not know what it's all about and then just embrace it and you're like all right And then, and then we get in, Travelari.

Speaker 2 Travelari is just like, sure, whatever. Yeah, that was my favorite thing about you.
Like, I could just say anything, and then you'd be like, okay,

Speaker 2 which is great.

Speaker 2 But then, yeah, so like they had these cages, and they'll like have two kids in there.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 the cages, this is what Trump wanted.

Speaker 2 This theme park was a Trump design. It was Trump National Park, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, the dream, American dream, mate. Yeah, no, um,

Speaker 2 yeah, but they had they would fit two kids in this one little cage section. Like,

Speaker 2 I think it would be worse for you, but for me, like, I could barely fit in there just by myself.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Where the fuck you put your leg? Yeah, it was fucked.
Like, at least it's not going to go fast. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, then, yeah. And then it started.
And then that thing didn't just spin around. It span around and then just went upside down.
And then in the other direction, like.

Speaker 2 It just kept going in every direction. And we're in this metal fucking tomb.

Speaker 2 Oh my god. it was like a it was like a trap or something.
Like, we

Speaker 2 were like victims to this trap, like that we just got lured in, and we're like, this is cool. And then all of a sudden, we're in like this washing machine.

Speaker 2 That's what it was, it was a washing machine, washing machine ride thing, and like it was horrible, like it was good, like, okay, you know, for like

Speaker 2 a little bit. Like, how long do you think one of these would go for? Like, you were in it, right? Like, I asked people, like, how long would you expect this ride to go for?

Speaker 2 Like, something like 30 seconds, minute, minute, maybe, maybe longer, maybe a minute, five minutes. Yep, yeah, right.
It like went for that long.

Speaker 2 I don't know why, but it just kept going, and it was like fun for like for me, it was fun for like one minute, two minutes, and then I was like, this isn't stopping. Get me the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I was like, I was like, all right, I need to like not, I need to concentrate on not dying right now.

Speaker 2 So I was just like, you know, there is that fear because, like, what's the safety regulations here? Yeah, yeah, well, like, we don't think of those terms.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, things could happen, and it's like, okay, oops. Oops, you knew, like, you knew what you were getting yourself into, right? Like, Like, they, that's what they would say, I feel like.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you signed the waiver. I'm like, I didn't say anything.
Like, oh, well, anyway, fuck it. With no seatbelts, like, well, enjoy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I was just like random terms. Yeah.
And I was just like, fuck, this is like not stopping. And I was like, this is a bit of a rough one.
And I just hear you in the back, like, oh,

Speaker 2 and I was like, oh, Ari's struggling because you're like, how tall are you 6'1? 6'3 ⁇ . Yeah, well, I'm

Speaker 2 6'1, I would say, maybe 6'6'1. Still fuckable.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Still over the fucking. I care about the unit of measurement.
Just made it. It's six feet and no woman, fuck you.
That's six feet. That is, you're either over that or under that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So I was like, you're probably even fucking struggling more than I am.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that eventually stopped.
And I just remember you just going over to the side of the park and just puking.

Speaker 2 I was like, fuck, I might have killed him, eh? I was like, bro, I am not in a good way. I am not in a good way.
You're like, all right, take it pretty. And I'm like, no, no, no.
I've been here before.

Speaker 2 Let's go out towards the outside of the park. I gotta take care of this.

Speaker 2 It didn't end the night, though. No.

Speaker 2 What did we do after that? I think.

Speaker 2 No, but we went back. So we went.
Yeah, went back in.

Speaker 2 And then we just hung out at the festival. But we came back to that,

Speaker 2 like, the theme park? Theme park thing. Yeah, Fair Fate thing.

Speaker 2 The next night. Yeah.
Yeah, and then went on the Ferris Wheels. Then that's that's when we went crazy on the rides.
Like, we went on like four different ones, right? The Ferris wheel was.

Speaker 2 How do we explain this Ferris wheel? The Ferris wheel is supposed to be a pleasurable, slow ride up with a loved one or a friend, and you look at the sights and you're like, oh, look how high we are.

Speaker 2 This is nice. You think of like a normal Ferris wheel? Like, it just moves in a normal way.
Uh-huh. What do you think? Five times? Five times the specific

Speaker 2 ten times the speed. Like, it was like.
How could you?

Speaker 2 It's hard to explain, like, how

Speaker 2 fast it was. Like, it was way more fast than you would think a ferret swallow.
I've never seen a ferris wheel go this fast. I didn't think it was possible for it to go that fast.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Because you would get, it went forwards and backwards. Yeah, in a switch.

Speaker 2 And when you get, when it's going, you go backwards on the low end, and you get at the top, and there's this thing where it gets up, and then start going down. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you'd have like momentum to look forward. But then you do backwards, you're like, that'll be better.

Speaker 2 And you're like, just flying away from everything, and then, oh, and then your stomach would just fucking. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember every time that would happen, I would like lean forward, and then like, as soon as you get the thing, I'd lean back, and it would make it even worse.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you were trying to really make it go like ride up and down. I was like, Ethan, I get what you're doing.

Speaker 2 It's a funny concept, but I just please don't. Yeah, I didn't care.
I just did it.

Speaker 2 You're right to do it. Yeah, I think it was funny.
Went on the bump cars. They were kind of disappointing.
Bump cars are disappointing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was kind of... No, that was just slow.

Speaker 2 I think I got one good hit on you, and it was just...

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 that. I remember I got one of these kids, though, and I felt kind of bad, but

Speaker 2 I feel like that's what you're in there for, yeah. I know you want to win, kid, but it's not going to happen today.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just like you and Backgammon today. Fuck.

Speaker 2 It's nothing better than beating a seasoned Jew in backgammon.

Speaker 2 And a double to end it.

Speaker 2 That last game of mine was... Everything was

Speaker 2 three doubles in a row. Yeah, it was just God.
That was like, oh, I couldn't have asked anything better. But I think it made up for all the luck that you had in the first few games.

Speaker 2 You still rolled that double sixes in that first game that fucking come out of there. Yeah, there was, yeah, I didn't, I wasn't totally unlucky.
There was some good ones.

Speaker 2 So, okay, so a couple more memories I have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 One, I don't have to remember this.

Speaker 2 Well, it's we want to talk about the cemetery. Yeah.
I want to talk about that weird thing that they were like, it looked like they were sacrificing a child, but then they weren't.

Speaker 2 It was like the real indigenous, like, hey, we're here because of this. Like, a local townsman was like, councilman was like, we're part of the indigenous.

Speaker 2 By the way, here's another observation of Guatemala. The most

Speaker 2 indigenous, like,

Speaker 2 like, part of the population of any Latin American country I've been to.

Speaker 2 They're all like a small party. Like Ecuador,

Speaker 2 they're a strong voting party, but they're not the majority.

Speaker 2 And here it seemed like it's all indigenous. Yeah, there are a lot of indigenous people in Guatemala, yeah.
Mexico, no. El Salvador, no.
Mexico, no for sure. Yeah, Panama,

Speaker 2 Costa Rica, no.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's just Guatemala to bury. And I think maybe like it could.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, I mean, the Amazon, obviously, mostly indigenous, but like, that's not the most people are not in the Amazon. Yeah.
That's fine.

Speaker 2 There's a lawnmower going off somewhere. Yeah, shit.
Yeah, that'll be a little annoying, but what is it? I don't know.

Speaker 2 He's just doing his lawn over there. That's probably going to be constant.
Not ideal. It's pretty close.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, finishes yard. God damn, this fucking whole area is so goddamn nice.

Speaker 2 I mean, we're in such a fucking, I don't know, a rich part of.

Speaker 2 Dude, that house we saw

Speaker 2 from the lookout, I feel like that was like Rupert Murdoch's vacation home. Yeah.
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's pretty remote, though. It's pretty remote.
It'd be pretty annoying to get to, but it looks pretty big, yeah. Unless you're helicopter in.
Oh, yeah, true.

Speaker 2 Okay, so back to Chi Chi. Back to this fucking

Speaker 2 Festa de Soto Tomas. Yeah, yeah.
So some other memories that we got to talk about. Wait, yeah, which one?

Speaker 2 What were we talking about? We probably should have figured that out. Yeah, we should have.

Speaker 2 Let's go back to this. Whatever.
No, we got the

Speaker 2 fireworks. No, it was.
Well,

Speaker 2 let's talk about... Let's talk about the cemetery first.
Yeah, we'll go. So one of the things that were like one thing to visit in this town is a cool cemetery.
Yeah, that's like the well known.

Speaker 2 that's very cool. Very nice.
That was the first thing that we did, actually. You're right.
You put our shit down, and then we went to the cemetery. Yeah.
Because we could see it

Speaker 2 from our little hotel. You know what? I was actually thinking was a regret of mine.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about regrets for a second.

Speaker 2 With some regrets. So what's your one big regret for this thing?

Speaker 2 Let me think.

Speaker 2 Just the latest on me. Mine was, as you're thinking about.
No, you just had one. You already had one.
Not taking a picture of something. Oh, yes.
Of the fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
You're right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So mine was, I wanted to do a podcast.
I was already starting to record these podcasts. Yeah.
I was like, I want to do one with you from that cemetery. It would be a cool backdrop

Speaker 2 about your travels. Yeah.
But then we wouldn't have done it about Chi-Chi, which is also.

Speaker 2 I was like, ah, fuck, I'll never see that guy again.

Speaker 2 Well, here you are. It worked out.

Speaker 2 Yours was not getting that picture of you. Yeah, well, yeah, the fireworks were crazy, and there was this one, one that was just.

Speaker 2 I feel like you wouldn't believe it if I didn't actually have a video or something and I have a video of like all of the other ones and they're like

Speaker 2 okay and there was another one that was really good I'm glad I got a video of that but there was this other one that was just super cool well it was these towers yeah we talked about

Speaker 2 fireworks yeah yeah we saw them setting it up it was these metal piping towers that went up 50 feet yeah yep and there was it was crazy like they would um it's like a playground or something yeah like 50 feet and they'll set it up all with fireworks and everything and like things going off.

Speaker 2 And it's interesting, like you,

Speaker 2 from the main tower, like they were setting off different things, things happening all the time, and it would be going for like half an hour. Yeah.
All these different ones.

Speaker 2 And you would like think that it's all done on the tower, and then all of a sudden they'll just have some other fucking thing go off in the tower. People are up there, fucking flying around.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 They were climbing them. Yeah, well, then you got the drunk guys underneath.
They were dancing in the thing.

Speaker 2 The drunk guys down there.

Speaker 2 They were trying to talk. There was like that psychedelic sort of flower pattern thing happening, going off.
And the fireworks. Because at the top was a spin wheel.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wait. And as you let a fireworks, the whole thing would spin.
It would go,

Speaker 2 and just make it spin faster and faster. Yeah, I don't know if it was that one, or there was like this stuff.

Speaker 2 I put the video up, and then the guys, you just see him dancing underneath these drunk barracks. You have videos of that? Yep.
Oh, nice, dude.

Speaker 2 Guys, if you're listening, this is one you want to check out on YouTube. Yeah, sure, for sure.
Yep.

Speaker 2 But I think

Speaker 2 what was really cool with the lead-up to those fireworks was

Speaker 2 just the crowd. I'm not sure if you remember how crowded that area got.
Like we stood there on the church an hour before, making sure that we had good seats for the firework.

Speaker 2 Like we had a good position.

Speaker 2 And it just got crowded and crowded and crowded. And it was like, have you ever been to like a festival where you're like you're in the middle of the mosh pit and you can like barely move? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was like that. And there's like old ladies, old men trying to get through this crowd and they're just getting crushed.

Speaker 2 And we'll just stand and watch it all.

Speaker 2 We were watching it all because we we were standing up from behind on the on the stairs you know the stairs of the church yeah because everyone wanted to watch it and um that was just crazy and then like trying to get this huge church stool thing trying to get trying to get it through and i'm like good luck yeah they're like move move yeah like there's no space there's no space they couldn't like people couldn't even move like going through like the main move to where yeah yeah but then as soon as the fireworks started that's when Everyone just stopped and just started watching it.

Speaker 2 Wherever you are, yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 2 they stopped moving and people were just watching the fireworks. Now we got a good spot, yeah, we did, right? My legs were hurting a little bit, but that was all right.

Speaker 2 Um, stood there for like an hour, but um, yeah, and then the fireworks started, the tower was happening, and everything, and then that was going for like 30 minutes, I think.

Speaker 2 And then this is this is the fire. Oh, well, this is your big memory, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 2 wildest thing, yeah. So, this is the firework that I didn't get a video of because I didn't know what was happening.

Speaker 2 And then, as soon as I saw that, that's when I started videoing everything else in case something like that happened again. But, like, what it was crazy.

Speaker 2 Like, at the top, there was like, think of like a circle, like a hula hoop. If you guys know what a hula hoop is.
Yeah, yeah, cool. Like that with, like, and it's a bit thicker, right?

Speaker 2 And then it has a firework on one side facing one direction and the firework on the other side facing the other direction. So it would just spin, right?

Speaker 2 And then when it lit, it just started spinning up and it just, like a UFO, it floated up into the air and just like went off.

Speaker 2 in the sky and just like went off like hundreds of meters into the town somewhere and just would have just fucking landed in someone's house. Like

Speaker 2 we don't even know where it is to this day. No regulations at all.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was great. It was just like,

Speaker 2 like, what the fuck? That's our fire. Yeah, like, where'd it go? Like, where'd it go?

Speaker 2 It could have just landed anyone's house. It could have

Speaker 2 hit someone.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Oh, God.
It was ridiculous. And then they started shooting these, like,

Speaker 2 I'm not sure if you like, if you've seen fireworks, and it's like, they just shoot off, it looks like fireballs that's going up. Yeah.
They had that on like every side of the tower.

Speaker 2 So like north, east, south, west, and just shooting it into the sides. So they're just shooting into them into the town as well.

Speaker 2 And like, because it's a bit higher than any building, so I wasn't hitting anything, but I was just shooting them across. I put that video up.
That was insane.

Speaker 2 God, that was insane. I remember after we were there, this stayed with me.
So we were there, and then they started a big dance in the middle. Oh, yeah.
And it was cool watching everybody dance.

Speaker 2 During the day?

Speaker 2 Picturing at night. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 And then this one old man had his old wife with him. Yep.
Do you remember this? No. And he was like grabbing her, holding her close.
And she's like, all right, all right, get off. Oh.

Speaker 2 Do you remember this? Maybe. And then she was like, get off, get off.
And he was like, come on. And he just like grabbed her.
It was like dancing with her. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 And it seemed like that was his wife. And then she was like, no, I'm out of here.
And

Speaker 2 he went after her and grabbed her. And people are like, oh,

Speaker 2 hey. But it was like...
I don't know what to do here. And he was like abusing her for sure.
Yeah, far.

Speaker 2 Wasn't he really drunk he was so yeah i think i do remember that and then she was like i'm i'm i've had enough with you and she started to walk away and he went after her and kind of like yeah and like pushed her to the ground or something it was something where the whole crowd was like no no no hey hey hey yeah yeah but i was like is someone gonna i don't know what to do yeah yeah it's also i was like if i if i'd be like hey that's not cool i'm like well she's going home to him Is this gonna like how do you know if it is actually his her wife, her husband?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it probably is, to be honest. Otherwise, people would just be like, fuck off, drunk person, you know.
Yeah. The drunk people there weren't always so bad.

Speaker 2 You know, remember the guys that gave us the drinks? They were like, oh my God, you're not from here. Yeah.
Have a drink. And we're like, how much is it? Like, no, no, no, we'll pay.
We'll pay.

Speaker 2 And I was like, cool. All right.
Cheers back. All right, then.
See you later. Adios.
Dude, I got to. I was watching the

Speaker 2 semifinal game of the World Cup. Well, we watched it in

Speaker 2 not in Tigua.

Speaker 2 Wait, with us?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we watched one one of the games. Yeah, in Shella.
In Shella. And I watched a later game, and I was watching at some burrito place, and these guys across the street, because everybody had it on.

Speaker 2 I remember that. And it was at some pharmacy, and they had it on.
There were five people watching, and they kept looking at me from right across the road in a small town I went to.

Speaker 2 And then eventually

Speaker 2 it was like halftime, and they're like, you root from the Netherlands? I'm like, no. And they're like, come on, you're rooting for the Netherlands.
I'm like, I'm not from the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 And I was like, well, it's either that or fucking whoever Messi played for, Argentina, and you don't look like you're Argentinian. I'm like, well, I'm not Netherlandian either.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you could be Argentinian. I could be.
Yeah. Yeah, some white Argentinians.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then afterwards, Messi won, I think it might have been shootouts or whatever. They were all like, and they sent kids to go buy some

Speaker 2 Quetzaltica.

Speaker 2 And like, you drink it? And I'm like, if you're buying. And they're like, yeah.
And they're just bottles of this fucking just getting drunk off that Quetzaltica. Yeah.
Where was that?

Speaker 2 That was in one of that northern town where I went to that weird Temezco. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, nice. World Cup was crazy there.
Everyone just loved Mesha. Shut down.
Everyone just went to Argentina in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, okay, so that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the fireworks was crazy. The fireworks was crazy.

Speaker 2 We're going back to the graveyard?

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's talk about the graveyard a little. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, because I know you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 The trash bit. It was like a whole...
It was like this beautiful, colorful graveyard. Yeah, we're walking through and we're like enjoying it.

Speaker 2 It's like every tombstone is like a different color, like brightly painted colors and it was just really really nice like it was well

Speaker 2 and the grass was really green as well so it was just like a beautiful place to walk around we smoked a joint there we looked for a grave together yeah so we went we tried to find a place to yeah where there's nowhere gonna be and look at us yeah and i feel like i want to smoke but i don't want to i want to ruin anyone's i was like yeah i was like

Speaker 2 you want to smoke in the smoke a joint in the graveyard i was like isn't that like

Speaker 2 a bit how you going and you're like you never smoked weed in the graveyard that's what we did where you smoke weed yeah and i was like of course all right where you go to smoke and i was like all right let's do it

Speaker 2 um yeah and then we found that spot like on the outside and then then we saw that trash like there was like a gully just it was a gully yeah completely trashed up yeah you couldn't see any everyone's trash dumped it over there it's really sad he had some some some stray dogs going through it yeah but i remember a dog i was filming a dog going like uh he was like eating some food or some flowers from a graveyard and i was like what you doing dog he just looked up at me he's like you tore and And then I was like, Sorry, buddy.

Speaker 2 He goes, and then he went back to eating.

Speaker 2 But he was like from like 30 yards away. It was great.

Speaker 2 That was cool.

Speaker 2 That was cool. Just walking around there.
And then you could see the town from the graveyard when you walked over the hill a bit. Yeah.
That was nice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So here's another memory. Before the graveyard, we finished the graveyard.
I just want to say, I remember us walking around and we're like, this is a really cool thing.

Speaker 2 And like, we're just checking out this graveyard. It's like a thing you do here.

Speaker 2 And I start looking around and there's like local people people here and they're like doing their thing and i'm like and you can see like they're real sad and i'm like oh shit we're actually we're actually in a graveyard in a current graveyard yeah and we're here just there just talking and like high like i was like ayari i think we probably need it we gotta get the fuck out of here yeah we need to get out of here i think we might be disrespectful in this graveyard and then we left yeah which is yeah but we're most of these are like abandoned graveyards and you're like whoa you come across i'm like this is cool i was fucking in one You were?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 2 With this chick, and we were fucking, and we're like, something banded grave. Was she waiting? Was she alive or was she dead?

Speaker 2 And then we were like, like, these little pods of graves, you know, and then more jungle, and then a pod of like 10 grates. And we were like, let's fuck.
And we fucked in one.

Speaker 2 And they were like, that was wild. And then we like heard some like stuff from the next pod over, and there was like a burial going on.
And we're like, oh, it's not a fucking

Speaker 2 ancient.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 2 This is so rude.

Speaker 2 They're just doing their thing and they're just here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Imagine if the guy came over and like, can you guys just like. Can you guys not like fuck while we're trying to bury my brother? Imagine just walking past.

Speaker 2 I mean, everyone's just like looking at you like they've all known what you've been doing.

Speaker 2 They're just staring at you. Like, come on, guys.

Speaker 2 So we're at this indigenous thing where the local councilman is like doing like a thing.

Speaker 2 It's Spanish or Quechua. It's tough to understand.
Oh, we got to talk about the screaming contest also. We got to get back to that.
Well, that's. Yeah, go on, yeah.

Speaker 2 And they're talking about how the origins of this i'm barely following it and then you go hey do you watch suits was that the show yeah and i'm like no like there's a show suits i'm like maybe i've heard of it i don't know you're like you don't watch it and i'm like no i don't know i don't watch it and you're like like why

Speaker 2 i remember being like like it might be yeah and they were like there's a guy across your bus it was like a big tent yeah and then because of some rain because everybody's wearing like fucking protection on their on their costume yeah it was rain and then yeah And then through the tent, on the other side of the tent, you're like, there's the guy from Suits.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I'm like, you're like, isn't that him? I'm like, I don't know, man.
I don't watch the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was Lewis Litt. What's his name? Lewis Litt.

Speaker 2 That's his, I don't know what his actual name is, but. Kind of weird-looking face, chubby-ish.
Yeah, yeah. He's like.
Shouldn't be a movie star, shouldn't be a celebrity, like actor.

Speaker 2 He's like one of those actors that is an actor because they look funny. Right.

Speaker 2 He must be good also. Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah, yeah. I think, um...
Yeah, and you were like, I think that's him. I was like, oh.
Yeah. not all of a sudden, yeah.
But you were like, it's for sure him. I should go talk to him.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I remember, I want to hear your opinion. Now looking back, I was like, you should not talk to him.
And you were like, why?

Speaker 2 I'm like, he is in Chi Chi in a fucking indigenous fucking festival in Guatemala. He's with probably, look like his family on a tour group.
Yeah, wife or something. Yeah, family.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Because I was like, I went behind him and I was like, oh, they're speaking Hebrew. He was like, oh, he's Israeli.
Or his wife's Israeli or something like that.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, he doesn't want to be a celebrity here. Yeah, he just wants to see this the way we're seeing it.
And you're like, I'm just going to call him by his character name.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, I would not do that. You're like, I got to say something.
I'm like, I think the best move is to say nothing. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then the next day, you're like, no, I regret I should have said something. No, I said something.
You did? I went up there and behind him, I farted. You what? I farted.

Speaker 2 You farted? Yeah, I just did. You farted? Next to him, yeah.

Speaker 2 I didn't really like

Speaker 2 know what else to say. So you just farted? Yeah, I left.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to know. I just wanted to fart next to Lilislit.

Speaker 2 Fucking first world fart. So I farted on him.

Speaker 2 Hopefully he doesn't hear this.

Speaker 2 Come after me. Do you think he recognized you seeing him? Do you think he recognized him? Oh, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 2 But, you know, there weren't other white people around. So maybe I was looking at him because he was another white person.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There was some of that.

Speaker 2 You ever get that when you're in a real remote place? You go further and further away from like society. Like Antigua, there's so many whites.
Then you go further and further away, and you're like,

Speaker 2 hey, there's no whites. Also, blacks, but like no, no non-and then you see one and a little bit like you're ruining this for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't come here to look at you.

Speaker 2 It was like that in Columbia a bit when I went to North Park. Really? Yeah, yeah.
Or actually, yeah, yeah, different parts in Panama and San Blas Islands and stuff.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I get that. But it's like, I I figure, like, if I'm there, then there might be someone else like me there as well.
Just like I mean, in fact, they have a right to be there. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's just like, damn, it's nice. Yeah.
I'm sure this place is out there with no white people, but you're not there. That northern town

Speaker 2 used to be more of a tourist stop than wasn't, and I was the only white, and I did what I had been going there to do. And I was like, well, let me leave.

Speaker 2 And then I'm like, looking around, I'm like, where am I going? Was there no other tourists? I'm like, this is what I've been looking for. Nice.
There's a town square, a couple chicken places.

Speaker 2 Did they speak Spanish? Chicken was huge there. Nope.
They didn't speak Spanish, eh?

Speaker 2 Barely.

Speaker 2 Some did, but not much. So you both barely spoke Spanish? We were both speaking our second language.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Bargain, I'm like, where did this come from? Yeah.

Speaker 2 One lady didn't know how to write down numbers. She had to get her son in to tell her how to write down like 100 quetzal.
Oh, true. She was like, she was like, told me the number.

Speaker 2 She learned that in Spanish. And then I was like, how much? Because Cincuenta and

Speaker 2 she wrote it. She was like, hey, come here.
And then he worked on 150. And I'm like, whoa.
Yep. You don't know how to write that?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 A lot of chicken is another underrated observation of Guatemala. They love fried chicken.
Yeah. The pollo loco.

Speaker 2 The crazy chicken. So, so wait, what did we leave off? What did we, oh, I know.

Speaker 2 There was that little festival square where we went. Yeah, where they were dancing.
They had like all the people come in in their costumes and they'll dance. The Toros.

Speaker 2 The guys dressed up as Toros and they had to run through.

Speaker 2 yeah yeah the bulls yeah yeah yeah all these different characters people were dressed up as yeah there's a bunch as bulls and they would like do the dance and stuff I wish they actually had them doing that for real though I guess but maybe that's actual bulls yeah yeah yeah everyone's dressed up as a as a character yeah um that was cool and that was all fan stuff we were watching that and then when they and then yeah and then I remember um

Speaker 2 they

Speaker 2 stopped dancing and it was like everyone's just there maybe there's like another event coming you know they're waiting for like more people to do something else or whatever.

Speaker 2 And then, like, the people that were like hosting it, they had like their microphone and stuff. And they're like, sort of just killing time.

Speaker 2 So, what they did, they just got like a bunch of kids from the crowd to come into the area or whatever. And they're like, run this competition.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like half-time at a sport thing or whatever. And they're just like, all right, we're going to do a competition.

Speaker 2 Who can just yell the longest? The longest, not even the loudest. Yeah, yeah.
So it's just like kid,

Speaker 2 kid one, man.

Speaker 2 You know, like, all right, not bad. Set the mark, set the mark, mark the beat.
And the other kid would do it, and there was this one kid that was like doing his yell. And at the end, he's like, eh,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 the other guy just comes and he's like, nah, man, nah, nah, you're done. I like that follow rules.
They were kids, like, like, eight-year-olds, be like, fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Obviously, you cheated.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was like, yeah, nice competition, guys. Yeah.
Could have come up with something a bit better, to be honest. Yeah, I could have easily.

Speaker 2 It was just like the combination. That festival and the whole Chi-Chi thing was just the combination of just everything.
was just so random like it was so random, which made it perfect. Yeah,

Speaker 2 we didn't know what we were walking into. Yeah, and it was highly religious as well.

Speaker 2 Like remember like some of the like it was like a march they went through with like the big chair and there was like the traditional ladies that'll be like there with like the candles in their hand and the candles just melting into their hand and they're just

Speaker 2 just walking like that. That's just like what they do.
They didn't have it like on a holder.

Speaker 2 It was like on their hand It's melting all through their fingers and stuff and they're just like that's and had like their baby on their front and those minds are so fucking tough was this random

Speaker 2 and just the firecrackers just the firecrackers i mean that's mostly what i remember

Speaker 2 i just think that one time we're like it's gone off now like we were like somewhere out in the town we just heard it just go

Speaker 2 and we're like let's get let's go we're like go go

Speaker 2 because if you're another part of town if you're where the if you're where the the uh the the firework not that the roller coasters were and stuff you're like we're so far away from the town square yeah yeah but if you're up near where the church was where we were getting that stuff and the lady's like watch out we were far away from that that was somewhere in the middle It was just spread out.

Speaker 2 We didn't know the schedule. Yep.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, God. What a fun fucking place.
All the different food as well. All the different food.
Yeah, just like different things. Be like, you want to just have one of those?

Speaker 2 And there was like five quetzals. Like, sure.
Yeah. Yeah.
Try that. Try that.
Try that. The whole time we're just high and eating

Speaker 2 random food and watching fireworks. And just, it was, and we're like the only white people there besides.
Maybe, I think I might have seen like 10 others, maybe the whole time. Not very much.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did you feel at all? I say this, but I already know the the answer. Did you feel at all? Like, what are you doing here, vibes?

Speaker 2 Like, how dare you be here, vibes?

Speaker 2 Maybe, but. I did not.
No. I thought of people like, what are you doing here? Like, that kind of like interesting, but not like that.
I feel like you get both.

Speaker 2 I feel like you get some people that are like, wow, enjoy the festival, guys. And then some people are like.

Speaker 2 Fuck off. You know, you always get some people that are probably more racist and whatnot, you know, and more accepted.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, but you just, but like, the thing is, you just know that they know

Speaker 2 that there are tourists going to come to the town because that town actually is a huge market, and people go there on Wednesdays and Saturdays because it's or Thursdays and Saturdays because it's like the biggest market in Central America.

Speaker 2 So we went on the days that it wasn't actually a big market. Wait, in Chichi?

Speaker 2 Yeah, something like that. I'm pretty sure it is like one of the biggest markets in Central America.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Chichi.

Speaker 2 A market day. Yeah, exactly.
Kind of like Otovalo and Ecuador.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 they're very used to having tourists around. So they're probably

Speaker 2 not, like, they would have just been happy to see only 10. It wouldn't be like, what the fuck? It's not like an uncontacted tribe.
Like, what's your white skin all about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 They'll be like, we get you guys once in a while. Exactly.
Maybe you get a lot of people from town that don't actually come to Chichi. They're not from Chichi.

Speaker 2 It would have been a lot of people, actually, that are coming in. Maybe for the day or something.
Oh, yeah, nearby. Yeah, from different towns and stuff.
Maybe they don't see white people.

Speaker 2 Dude, it fucking ruled so hard. Yeah, I forgot all those little stalls we went to were like, let's try that, let's try that, let's try that.

Speaker 2 And people were interested to see what we'd think of it, too.

Speaker 2 I'm like, this is so good. They'd be like, thanks.
I wish I had

Speaker 2 some photos of some of the stuff we had because I don't remember. I just was too focused on eating.
I remember being like, let's eat that. And I was just, I'm not taking photos or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you really had to make a decision. You're like, well, my stomach only, I can afford all this, but my stomach only goes so much.
So I really got to make a choice here.

Speaker 2 I remember they had like the farm animals as well. I remember like they had that turkey.

Speaker 2 Remember that turkey? I don't know what that bird was, but had that penis on its head. Remember?

Speaker 2 And then when it like the ladies would come and be like, they'll pick it up and they'll like lift it up and feel it and be like, oh, is this a healthy one?

Speaker 2 And when they picked it up, the freaking little hangling penis would get erect because it's like getting touched and it's like on its on guard or whatever, you know?

Speaker 2 And I'm where I remember sitting there eating that, just looking over, being like, what the fuck is that animal? Like, that is just the weirdest looking animal.

Speaker 2 It was wild. And they they would come up, and like, maybe if it was a good one, they would just buy it at their farm or whatever.
Geez, what a market.

Speaker 2 It wasn't just like tchotchkes, it was like, oh, people come here to get stuff during the festival. Yeah, like they need,

Speaker 2 yeah, as well. Yeah, there's that knife salesman that you were really into, knife and gun salesman.
Oh, yeah, yeah. And you were like, I'm pretty much not buying.

Speaker 2 I didn't need to tell you that, but like, I'm interested to talk. Because they're a leak.
Like, what is it? The um,

Speaker 2 what are those?

Speaker 2 It's a knives that just stick right out. Oh, a switchblade.
Yeah, yeah, they're illegal here. I'll go in America too.
Yeah, so I was like, oh my gosh. You know, and I'm like, I was like pressing.

Speaker 2 I'm like, power. Because we also don't have like guns and stuff in Australia.
So we don't. It's fun to touch them.
Yeah, well, I shot one when I finished my trip.

Speaker 2 I went to America and I had cousins there and we went to Death Valley and went camping and stuff. Yeah.
And they had a handgun and I shot it. It was cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was fun. It is fun.
Yeah, it was. It was like powerful or something, you know, but I'm happy that it's not in Australia, but it was still kind of cool.
Well, there's this vibe.

Speaker 2 My brother was working in Luxembourg for a while. Yeah.
And so people all over different countries all live there. It's just like a town country.
And they're like, oh, you're from America.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah. He goes, how many guns do you have? And he was like, none.
They're like, come on. And he's like, no, I don't have any guns.
And they're like, all right, but you're in the minority.

Speaker 2 He goes, no, most people don't have guns. Oh, really? Come on.
Yeah, true. I guess in the cities and stuff.

Speaker 2 It's just like most people don't have, it's like a small minority of people have guns. Yeah.
But the story is everyone has guns everywhere. And that's what you hear.

Speaker 2 And he's like, I'm telling you, almost nobody I know has a gun.

Speaker 2 And they're like, that's no, you're lying.

Speaker 2 But anyway, it is fun to hold one. I do not.
I mean, I got this guy.

Speaker 2 Those two guys. Yeah.

Speaker 2 When the sun's out, the guns will come out.

Speaker 2 Overall, I'd say it was a great fucking trip. Yeah, that was cool.
And then you went away and I went to the airport. Yeah, you had to leave.
I took a chicken bus to the airport and you went to.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 Where did I go? Yeah, you went somewhere. I went back to the lake.
Yeah. It was coming up to Christmas because I think that was like the week before Christmas.

Speaker 2 And then I was like volunteering at that hostel I sent you to. And I wanted to go and do the big Christmas there and

Speaker 2 New Year's and everything, you know. Oh, damn, this was fucking cool.

Speaker 2 Was there any other memories of this place you were forgetting? Chi Chi? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 that did a pretty good job of fucking saying I'm fucking rattling. I was like, I was like, I wasn't running around.
It was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 No, I don't remember. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think that was pretty much it. Just like,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 Just the roller coasters and the ferris who was great.

Speaker 2 Fun trip. Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 2 All right, so here's something I asked people. A couple things.
Yeah. One, if you have any travel tips, one tip, but it could be anything.

Speaker 2 Not your main one, but a lot of people say travel light, you know, whatever it is. Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, well.

Speaker 2 You put me on the spot here.

Speaker 2 Okay, in the meantime, while you're semi-thinking about that, and the other countries you're like on the horizon, you're like, I'm really looking forward to going there, or I really want to get to that place.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I've been saying for a while, I really want to go to China.

Speaker 2 China rules. Yeah, I think I've talked to you about this because you've been to China and I just want to go there and just like go to, like, if you Google mountains in China.
Oh, you're a hiker.

Speaker 2 They have it there. I got to believe they're on touch.
Yeah. Those people don't have hiking days off the way like First World does.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 But like some of them are like the screensavers on Apple. Yeah.
And you're like, where is that? You're like, where in China is this? Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, it's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 And they do like some crazy BF Ferratas. You know, like the, you have like the metal things in the walls and you sort of can like

Speaker 2 climb up them with like a safety thing or whatever. But like they have a bunch of those which would be pretty crazy.
You probably die, but it'd be cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, China would be awesome.

Speaker 2 I haven't been to Europe before. I've only really spent all my time in, I've spent like two and a half years in Latin America.
Did you say you're fluent now, Spanish?

Speaker 2 To everyone here in Australia, I would be fluent.

Speaker 2 To someone that's fluent, probably not. You're doing a great job taking a class and really diving into it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was surprised because also I would think Australians, nobody would speak any Spanish. No, no one does.
It's only like the tourists that are actually here.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of people from Argentina in Australia.

Speaker 2 But you were like, damn, you're flowing. It almost seemed like you stopped speaking Spanish to let me in.

Speaker 2 It was like, all right, let's be friends for a minute. You're not going to be able to keep up in fucking Spanish.
Well, we just asked you to speak Spanish the whole time.

Speaker 2 But like you were speaking Spanish to everybody else because that's what I noticed also the hostels there the hostels in in um in um

Speaker 2 southeast asia are a lot of americans irish uh canadians uh um

Speaker 2 some like argentinians or whatever but they meet up in the language of english that's germans everywhere denmark yeah but i saw a lot of like oh i'm from mexico city i'm from argentina and they met up in the language of spanish oh okay yeah well and then if there was somebody like me like oh hey guys let's fucking switch switch for this one idiot.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 100%. That's more likely that does happen more often in South America because you obviously have all the countries and everything like that.
And you've got people from Spain as well.

Speaker 2 So if you just get yourself in one of those groups, but I'll be honest, like, still, everyone just speaks English.

Speaker 2 Like, every European will communicate to each other through English, unless they're from, like, Austria or Germany and whatnot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then French and whoever. And maybe Quebec, they can have that French, whatever.

Speaker 2 But yeah, mainly people do just speak English. So,

Speaker 2 but you're right. It does happen more often.
Yeah, they speak some Spanish, but you know, the universal language.

Speaker 2 Here's my travel tip now for me for this episode. Okay.
Anywhere in South America, look up where a local festival is and then get to it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's good to see. Go away from your fucking travel plans and go, I'd rather just see what this one's all about.

Speaker 2 It's going to be something wild and it's going to be within a four-hour fucking ride. Yep.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 That's more specific than most. Some people are travel light.
Some people have a good toiletries kit. Some people are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I like when you say travel light, I would say like I was happy to take a few more items because like I was taking buses and stuff. You know, you don't actually need to have a small bag.

Speaker 2 Like I was I took all my hiking gear and everything. I'm obvious, like you said, I like hiking.
I took all my hiking stuff to go camping and everything. And I did a lot of tours on my own.

Speaker 2 Like a lot of, I hiked up the Tahomuco after that time you went to the lake. I went up there and just hiked.
It was like the highest volcano in Central America. Wild, you were just just there alone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, by myself, yeah. I just went up.
Yeah, it was cool, honestly. And I was able to do it by myself.
I just caught a bus over there, chicken bus over, and just hiked up.

Speaker 2 You know, whereas if you paid a tour,

Speaker 2 you'd pay like $200, $300 to do it. I saved that because I had that stuff with me.
So, and it depends where you're going as well, but like, don't have to take, don't be worried to take

Speaker 2 some random items like that. You don't have to go too

Speaker 2 ultra-light. That you think you'll need.
Yeah. Sandals are really good.

Speaker 2 This is where they put up the fucking travel tip. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Sandals are really good. Yeah, I like the sandals.

Speaker 2 I had a good pair and they can undo the back so you can be like slides and

Speaker 2 normal sandals, so that's a good one. But I don't know.
Just take it easy. I don't know.

Speaker 2 No, that wasn't a great travel tip.

Speaker 2 I have heaps.

Speaker 2 I could talk to you for an hour about travel tips.

Speaker 2 Think of a lesser-known one that you were like, that you would tell somebody. Shit.

Speaker 2 I know one

Speaker 2 that you might have what what do you bring

Speaker 2 like there's my friend told me bring a bose his his tip he didn't wasn't on the talk bring a bose a small bose

Speaker 2 speaker you'll be the hero of the fucking hostel oh yeah that's kind of cool but I brought settlers of Catan there you go

Speaker 2 I was in Mexico and

Speaker 2 oh actually well yeah I was in Mexico that's where I started my trip my friend had it in his car he was like Mexican and we played a bunch and then we did a road trip and then went to to

Speaker 2 Walmart and they had it there.

Speaker 2 I'm not sure if I'm incriminating myself here, yeah, but um, stole it. Well, it's fine, I steal all the time.
We're not, well, you know, you know, we

Speaker 2 I technically bought a jelly cup, let's say, so you got the jelly cup in Walmart, you take the label off, you put it over the label, and you know, it was 35 bucks, too much, yeah, and it's Walmart, like, yeah, I don't give a fuck about Walmart,

Speaker 2 so we got that. I got it for like it was uh 25 cents or something like that

Speaker 2 or a dollar or something. I can't remember.
But I took it out of the box and then I got one of these nice bags kind of like what I got from Chi Chi.

Speaker 2 Yeah you'll yeah it's anyway and then I put all the pieces in there and put little ziplocks and it's like a little bag. It's actually not that big and then traveled around with it and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 I was like, you'd meet people and you'd be like, hey,

Speaker 2 maybe you vibe with them and be like, Do you know what Catan is? And they're either like, oh yeah, but don't really know how to play or nah.

Speaker 2 fuck yeah, oh my god, yeah, why? Do you have it? Do you want to play right now? I'm like, yes, yes, I do. And it's the fuck yeah energy that, you know, that people have for Katan.

Speaker 2 Like, you'll probably ask every traveler, I reckon 30%, 40% would have that. Yes, and it's fuck yeah usually.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and then you'll just sit there for hours playing Catan because it's like trying to find stuff to do at hostels. You know, you can always.

Speaker 2 Remember with Esther, how everybody knows their local card game, and then you're like, tell people from other localities, like, do you guys know this one? And they're like, no, like, look, I'll learn.

Speaker 2 Yeah, write down card games as well because you'll always be like, oh, what was that card game? Yeah, that so-and-so taught us there.

Speaker 2 Now you're teaching an Austrian game to fucking check people

Speaker 2 in fucking Thailand. I get messages all the time about like, hey, what's well, I'm always asking for the rules of boo-boo.
Yeah, well, that's it.

Speaker 2 Everyone, because I'm sort of like, well, I didn't make up the game, but like, I learned this game, and I've never seen anyone play this game ever.

Speaker 2 And I've like made a bunch more rules to it, and I've always played, and it's fucking really fun. Boo-boo.
And people always message me. Like, I'm getting messages still.
Like, really?

Speaker 2 How do you play booboo? Yeah. What happens if you're in this situation? Like, oh, well, then this goes.

Speaker 2 You are the governing body.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 I guess, yeah, write down the uh, the rules to card game and play some cards at the hostels. It's free, and it's great.
And you play with people, you play drunk, play high, whatever. It's great.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. And yeah, it's awesome.
All right, Ethan McKenzie, you have like an Instagram or anything people can follow you? You do that at all? Yeah. You do? Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 May as well. You can have a look.

Speaker 2 Pictures up there. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 You can actually have pictures of my trip and everything. Oh, really? Hell yeah.
Yeah. It's ethan.mcKenzie.
M-C-K-E-N-Z-I-E.

Speaker 2 M-C-K-E-N-Z-I-E. Yeah, yeah.
It's like just my sort of personal one, but I'm pretty open with it. I like to share a lot of the cool stuff that I do.
You take great pictures, too.

Speaker 2 If you ever go to South America, you can see some really cool stuff. And

Speaker 2 I always have the location on the post, so you can go there as well.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Buddy, this was great. It was great to see you again.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 2 Thank you for having me. Yeah, you're welcome.
That was awesome. It was fun.
Yeah. Good memory.

Speaker 2 I am back in the town. Different day.
I'm on market day and more in the summertime. And man, this city is alive.

Speaker 2 Church is open.

Speaker 2 Let's look in there.

Speaker 2 I definitely got to go in there later.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I'm back where it was. This brings back like a lot of memories.

Speaker 2 This whole place was mobbed right where I am right now.

Speaker 2 And then all there was like a parade route.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll show you. And then all the fireworks were down there.
The old lady's crying right on there.

Speaker 2 And then

Speaker 2 come over this way.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, gracias per

Speaker 2 talvez and like Quintimenutos. Mas Talvez.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this was all mobbed. Everybody there, it was all fireworks.
Come over this way a little bit.

Speaker 2 Get out there.

Speaker 2 So, can you see over there?

Speaker 2 Yeah?

Speaker 2 That was all the fireworks all here. That's where we were running through.

Speaker 2 What's it called?

Speaker 2 All the people dancing with the masks on. That was all down that road.
It's all market day now, so it's like different.

Speaker 2 but yeah it brings back some memories so guys

Speaker 2 thank you very much to YMH for

Speaker 2 for

Speaker 2 editing and producing this podcast Alan Caffey for editing it

Speaker 2 thank you Ethan McKenzie for taking me on this trip and coming with me I know that was a wild thing to do to be able to have the time A year where you're gone two years.

Speaker 2 Yeah, thanks Ethan for coming with me. Just the idea.

Speaker 2 Guys, everywhere in Latin America, there's like a festival in a town nearby you and you just have to take a bus to another bus to another bus and have some Mayan lady sit on your lap for a while to get over here.

Speaker 2 That might be mass.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think what else I gotta tell you. Please subscribe wherever you're watching and listening.

Speaker 2 I got another Guatemala episode coming with Bobby Kelly at some point, unless.

Speaker 2 This place is nuts.

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Speaker 2 What's the chant I'm thinking of? Dale, Dale, Dale, Dale Dale, Super Chivo. That's it, everybody.
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Speaker 2 Thank you, Ethan. Reach out.
If I find his Instagram address, I'll put it on the bottom. Reach out and let him know what a great episode this was.
And guys, go make your own trips.

Speaker 2 Go find your own crazy festivals and places. And

Speaker 2 yeah, I don't know. Get out there and live I'll see you next week

Speaker 2 uh not adios oh I guess it's where to church yeah adios generally it's also luego adios

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