Ari Goes to Guatemala w/ Ethan McKenzie | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

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Okay, you got any questions before we start?

Me?

Yeah.

Hmm.

No.

None of it matters.

None of it matters.

It's just like two friends talking about our fun time.

That's all it really is.

First thing that popped into my head when you asked me any question, something in this situation is like, why are you gay?

What?

Have you seen the meme?

Why are you gay?

No, with the like the African guy, and he's interviewing the transgender lady.

Like, this is a while ago, and they're like, rural right-wing.

And he's like,

so you are.

why are you gay?

Yeah, I saw that one.

Why are you gay?

Who says I'm gay?

You are gay, you are transgender.

Why are you gay?

It was a classic.

I was from school, and I remember being a lot.

Dude, I remember some of those African like uh uh like interviews because there's so much in a different time.

They're just like, you must meet your wife to let her know.

And you're like, you know, you're on camera.

Like, that's why I tell the people, you must meet your wife on Thursdays and Wednesdays only.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's like, what?

Why are you okay?

They really didn't understand it.

And he was like, I don't get any of this.

Hey, everybody, welcome to You Be Trippin'.

It's a travel podcast.

Me and a guest take you to a strange place across the globe every week.

It's the only podcast that serves 100% fresh wallaby meat to every guest on the podcast.

And today I have my friend Ethan McKenzie on.

We're in the Gold Coast.

We're in Gold Coast

of Australia, of New South Wales.

Queensland.

Queensland.

Queensland.

Ethan, where are we going today?

We're going to Chi-Chi in Guatemala.

Trip we took together.

Okay, so

let's talk about Chi-Chi.

Chi-Chi.

Or just like, how did we meet?

I remember when I met you.

The Kiwi Hostel.

Kiwi Hostel, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was sick.

You were playing.

you I did you have weed no I remember um

yeah maybe I had just gotten there yeah I think I might have yeah no I remember I was in the in the uh

I was in the um

kitchen just eating a sandwich and you walked in getting a tour

and I was like Ethan and you're like Ari and I was like all right and then I saw you upstairs and

Yeah, and then you were just sitting with people and I went up there and we just started chatting and smoked a joint I think and then dude Do you ever go like first day at a hostel where you're like, I don't know anybody?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's like kind of uncomfortable.

But then

pretty quickly, everybody's like very open.

Yeah, yeah.

Depends how I'm feeling.

Like, if I'm feeling social or if I'm with someone, it's like instantly just straight into it.

But sometimes if I'm like keeping to myself, I'm like not wanting to socialize at all.

And I might like not socialize for like four days or depends what I'm doing around how long I stay.

But yeah, I don't know.

I'd come from Guatemala City, gotten on one of those cabs, and they're like, because they're like, get the fuck out of Guatemala City City as soon as you can.

Yeah, yeah.

That was every warning.

I was like, okay.

And then I landed there, got to that.

No, wait.

I was in Antigua first.

I'm not sure.

Wait, what city was this?

Well, the one that we're in?

That we met.

Oh, that was in

no, that was not in.

That was not in.

That was not in Antigua.

That was in Shella.

That was in Shella.

Yeah, Shella, yeah.

Yeah.

You know why I went there?

You weren't meant to go there, right?

No, there was a Simpsons episode.

There was a Simpsons episode where they had a chili cook-off.

Yeah, yeah.

the sheriff was like,

was way into

like, he's making chili that could hurt Homer.

Yeah, yeah.

Nothing what else.

And he goes,

yeah, he goes, the merciless chili peppers of Quetzalzaca Tenango.

No way.

Yeah, grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of the Guatemalan and San Asylum.

Hey, is she out?

No, she's still in.

Yeah.

By the Guatemalan insane asylum.

And I was like, I got to find these chili peppers of Quetzalzaca Tenango.

And then they're like, there is a city, Quetzaltaka, or whatever.

Quetzal Tenago.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm like, what?

So good enough reason as any.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you eat one of those chilies?

Yeah, they weren't really.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I think it was just a writer's fiction.

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Chelles.

Yeah, but then you told me about Atitlan.

Lake Atlan.

Yeah, and a fucking sick hostel, which I was going to Atilan anyway.

Yeah.

But you're going to go more near San Pedro area.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which I did, but I stopped and

so big, that lake.

It's so big.

You don't understand.

You think of a lake and you're like, whatever, I'll do it.

And you're like, no, no, there's cities.

Yeah.

Different unrelated cities.

So many, like big ones, yeah.

And then like little ones as well.

Did you go freediving with Tim?

Did you ever do it?

No, I didn't.

I made it to the embardona.

I just never saw the appeal to it.

I should have probably done it, to be honest.

He asked me, and I was like, nah, I'm good.

And then like he got ready and he came back.

He goes, you sure?

And I was like, you know, when you have enough time to think?

I'm like, yeah, why don't I do it?

Yeah, you should, yeah.

Yeah.

No, you, you should, yeah, that's a good one.

It was like that waterfall we went on.

Yeah.

We cut in the wrong place.

Let's go behind the waterfall.

And at first, in Australia.

We're here in Australia, everybody.

Yeah.

We're in the Gold Coast.

And it was like, no, we're not allowed to go.

And you're like, you sure?

Like, yeah, I'm sure.

He's like, are you sure?

I was joking.

I was like, hey, Ari, do you want to go?

Because I know that would make you want to go, but I wasn't even going to go.

You weren't going to go?

No.

Fucking hell.

You started going.

I was like, yeah, let's do it.

I mean, I was like, no, no.

And then I'm like,

it will be fun.

Yeah.

But I'm like, there's like sharp rocks, danger, will die.

Yeah, you never know if there's like a landslide and that actually is unstable, or is it like one of those ones where it's just a bit too dangerous for like a lot of public people going through and it's fine.

Right.

Yeah.

Or like, use your best judgment.

Or, right, it's not raining currently.

Yeah.

Just like that tree.

Just like that.

Yeah.

The ladder up the tree.

Yeah, but man, we had a blast in

Quetzaltaka, whatever, Quetzal Taranga.

Chella?

Chella, yeah.

That was a lot of fun, that hostel.

hostel.

Yeah.

Just walking around.

You helped me find weed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so nervous to find weed.

Yeah, just go to any of those guys just making jewelry in the streets and they'll be able to get you some.

It is pretty like when you think about it in hindsight, you're like, oh, right, of course.

A guy making jewelry

with with like with like dreads.

Yeah.

Like, yeah.

Well, like, they they all would smoke weed.

They're not necessarily there to deal weed, but they all, you know, what they're doing there is to make money selling jewelry.

But they know that they can make some money selling you weed, you know, by buying some off some guy, selling to you with slightly higher.

Yeah, still cheap for us, you know.

Yeah, I was in that mode of like bargain, and I was like, no, that's crazy.

And then he was like, that's the price.

And I'm like,

still pretty fucking cheap.

Yeah.

It's like I was bargaining for pennies.

Yeah.

It's fine.

And I also desperately needed it.

Where else am I going to find it?

I'm still frightened to find some.

Exactly.

But then,

but then, so we split up.

But that was a fun fucking week.

That festival was in.

We went to went to the hot springs in

hot springs in the jungle hot springs in the jungle.

It was fucking sick.

Yeah, went to the little

like

ones you have to pay a little bit extra to go down there.

The little extra was very little extra.

Yeah, yeah, like two dollars.

It was like two dollars extra.

Yeah, yeah.

And it was like all alone.

One other guy, a couple, maybe.

But that was only for a little bit, yeah.

It was four different hot springs, colder and colder and colder.

And it's like the cliffs on the either side of like, you're in like an alley sort of thing.

Yeah, do you still have pictures of that?

Yeah.

I'm going to put pictures up on that.

Yeah.

Video of like, I mean, you're in like, it's like, it's like King Kong.

Yeah.

It would just hide.

It was so fucking cool.

So fucking shit.

So

fucking hot.

Yeah.

It was weird.

Like, yeah, it's like, you're in the, it was kind of like you're in some Amazon sort of.

How did we get out there?

We took a bus?

We got a ride or we took an Uber?

We Ubered initially there.

And then we had no restaurants.

I left my jacket in the Uber and he happily took that one.

Tried to get a ball.

Yeah, of course.

Right.

I tried to like talk, you know, submit a thing through Uber and they're like, nah.

And you're like, dude, come on, it's a a name-brand jacket.

And it goes, oh, sick, nice.

No, it wasn't.

It was like $5, but I really liked it.

I got it from like an op shop.

A second-hand thrift store.

Did I go with you to that crazy, crazy thrift store?

Thrift market, the $1 pile?

In one of the bus stations or something.

Oh, yeah, maybe.

And it's like a dollar pile.

And it's a pile that it looks like the fucking shoes in the Holocaust moment.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

And it's like a buck.

Yeah, you actually have some good stuff in there.

I found this button-up tee that was like, you'd get that from like a thrift, like a good vintage thrift store for like $20.

Really?

Yeah, and I wore it the whole time.

Every time I wore it, someone's like, that's a nice shirt.

And I was like, I got that for one Quetzal, which is like 12 cents.

It does.

Oh, yeah, it's one quetza.

It wasn't one dollar.

Yeah, it was one quetzal.

Yeah, quetzal.

Yeah.

Wow, yeah.

And you're almost like, I don't know if it'll fit.

Like, who cares?

And just give it away.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I got a few things and just gave them to people.

To mates.

That was cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That place rules.

What was the what food do you remember in uh

in uh Guatemala?

Oh tostadas.

I remember didn't we go out like we weren't around at night time and we like tried some of the food you got the tostadas you got um

well they just got like the normal meals where you just have like rice salad and like a piece of meat That's like a meal but if you want to get like the special stuff remember how you had that like it was like a banana ball with like beans in it?

Oh yeah.

Yeah, I made you try one of those and you're like this is weird.

It was weird.

I didn't care for it too much.

What was that called?

Do you remember?

No.

Yeah, no way.

Mashed banana with beans in it.

You're like, try this.

It's strange, but take a chance.

And you're like, yeah, okay.

Yeah.

And they also had like all that.

Oh, that was like some event happening.

Yeah, it was a festival.

Because I was like, is this always like this?

And you're like, no, I've been here for like a month.

It's not always like this.

Yeah.

It just got going.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was, yeah.

I don't know what was going on, but.

Yeah, it was some festival for like, not for New Year's or some Christmas related.

It was like December.

Christmas, right?

No, they had all the Christmas lights in the main square and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All the Christmas things are happening.

Yeah.

It's fucking cold there as well.

It was cold there.

Good hiking.

I remember you told me, you were like, which hikes are you doing?

I'm like, I don't know.

Do you remember this?

Yeah, I don't remember.

And you're like, what were you planning on doing?

I'm like, is there hiking here?

And you were like, did you do any research?

And I'm like, no.

I just looked for direct flights from Boston.

And Guatemala was on the list.

That's alright, though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's kind of fun, like, doing like that sometimes, you know.

Mm-hmm.

But I found out, still did it.

Yeah.

Fuego.

Yeah, mate.

Fuego was cool.

Akatenango.

Climbing up Akatenango and then watching Fuego.

Did you actually get, did you climb a hike across to Fuego as well?

No.

Did you?

You did.

No, no, no, no.

Well, you're nuts.

I know.

I regret not going, actually.

But I was up there for two nights, Jay, with just my mates.

That was fun.

We made a campfire.

Two nights.

Oh my God.

The wind rips through it.

The craziest thing is you're up there halfway.

It's this volcano is just going off constantly every like 30 seconds.

Nah, it wouldn't be that

10 minutes.

No, more, less.

Depends, I guess.

When you're at the base, when you see it in Antigua, you can just see it pop off.

And you're like, I'll stand here for a minute.

It's going to go again.

It won't go every minute, though.

Definitely doesn't go.

When I went there, it was every 10 minutes.

Maybe when you were there, maybe, because it does change how frequent it happens.

Sometimes people go and they'll see it twice.

Because maybe it does like a big eruption and then for the next but just little smoke going off.

It's like smoke.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you get up close, and then you come around this bend.

And the guy, it was just me and two Canadian chicks.

And this guy was like, look.

And we were like, what the fuck?

Because then you see how big it is.

But he goes, wait.

Because when the sun goes down, you realize it's all red.

Yeah.

You just can't see it in the sun.

It's like molten rock.

Molten rock.

Yeah.

It is a bit.

It's a wig out.

On my trip, that was probably the.

That must have been the coolest experience.

That hike sucked.

Yeah.

If I knew what the hike was going to be, I would not have done it.

It was straight up.

It was straight uphill for six hours.

Yeah, yeah.

It was horrible.

Yeah, but surely, you know,

watching the larva on top of that mountain was just one of the coolest things in your life.

Yeah, let me see this.

Yeah, it's gone.

Yeah.

I fuck this up a lot.

All of the mics?

Just everything.

Just everything, really.

I fuck up quite a bit.

Just like planning for Guatemala.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Hi, everybody.

I'm going to break into today's episode to let you know a little bit about the guest.

He's not a comedian.

He's just a cool guy, Ethan McKenzie.

He took me to his home.

Well, I guess his brother's home.

Some home he was watching.

We were in the Gold Coast.

We had a fucking blast there.

It was a fun time to do this podcast.

And he was like, when's this coming out?

And I was like, buddy, I think I'm going to go back and visit the city we did the podcast about.

I'm in one of the most pretty cemeteries in the world out here, the same city.

But, oh, dude, Ethan, I got to tell you.

First of all, right now I'm staying in your favorite hostel.

I don't want to say the name, but open mic night yesterday was great.

I did did a magic trick.

No jokes.

Tim is gone.

I think he went back to Australia.

They don't know when he's coming back.

I hung out.

I went to the hostel where we met.

We first played boo-boo.

Look how pretty this

cemetery is.

Yeah, I sat at that table,

met some Guatemalans.

I was like, why do you guys drink at this bar?

And they were like,

well, it's the only place we can

smoke.

And

and yeah they were just cool i told us about um oops people are coming i get embarrassed doing this told us about their they asked me about trump and then i said i'll tell you anything it doesn't matter what political party you're into if somebody asks you about your

politics from your home just say they're terrible and then go how do you feel about yours and i did that and they go oh we think they're terrible as well so corrupt gotten corruption on this Guatemalan ruling class because light on crime or they take bribes from the rich They're straight up bought out by rich companies.

I'm like, oh, yeah, we got that too, bro.

We got the same thing here

One of the advisors of our fucking leaders one of the richest men in the world

Anyway,

I'm gone.

I don't really know anything

What was I gonna tell you

but I gotta go against the sun for a second.

Sorry guys.

I'm getting the shade

But let's use my eyes.

But everybody I meet here when they're trying trying to sell me something, because it's market day, I came from market day, a way, way different vibe.

But everyone's trying to sell me something.

I was like, I got no space.

And they're like, why?

You've got space right in there.

I'm like, no, you don't understand.

I'm going to.

It's not space like that.

It's a different kind of space.

But I was like, they're like, do you know about whatever,

this city?

And I go, yeah, I was actually here.

Aviaje.

Abiaje.

Dosanos pasado.

para um

uh festos de san zomas.

And they were like, No.

And I was like, oh, it's so different, right?

And they're like, Yeah, it really is.

And I was like, with the uh bombas, I don't even call them fireworks, call them bombas, because that's what they are.

They're just massive bombs and all this stuff.

So, um,

let's go back to the episode, back to Gold Coast and whatever, and talking about this, this crazy festival.

Well, let's back to the uh um hey buddy, it's okay, don't worry about it, you're cool.

A lot of beating dogs here, clearly.

But I'm in the cemetery.

I'm gonna go find the church where all the fireworks went off, where I took all those pictures to see how different it is on Market Day.

But also,

since I'm in the cemetery, one thing Ethan and I found was a massive pile of garbage.

And I don't mean pile, I mean like they filled up a cliff.

And I've been walking around,

yeah, there it is.

I just found it actually.

I just found it.

And

dude, I had a blast so far.

I miss you, Ethan.

Let me,

how do I get to this thing?

How do I get to this thing?

Okay.

Esaki.

Estamosaki.

This is a pile of trash.

Ethan, I figured out finally why it is no longer super, super bad.

Guys, it goes all the way down there.

I mean, deep into it.

But Ethan,

I figured it out.

Here's how they get rid of it.

They just burn it.

This can't be good for me to breathe in.

They just burn all the the garbage.

And their garbage goes like all the way down.

I'm going to hold my breath and do this, but

all the way down there.

You see it?

I'm not clear of it yet.

All right, let's get back to the episode.

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The largest, oh damn, I thought I had stickers.

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Oh, I do.

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Ethan McKenzie, all-around great guy.

Me, no dates.

Bye.

I'm going to find the church for the end.

So then I went to Atlan.

I was like, and I looked for this fucking festival.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I was like, what?

This is what I found for in Ecuador.

There's a festival in every region once a month.

Yes.

Every region will have one a year.

The birds out here are fucking wild.

Yeah.

So I was like, all right, that's what got me going.

Find some festival.

I was like, what's going in December, this place in Chi-Chi?

Yeah.

And,

dude, you're so open.

I was like, you want to go?

Yeah, all right.

Yeah, why not?

Why not?

It's right.

Yeah.

Seemed cool.

Yeah.

Go there and just check it out.

So we got to talk about, first we got to talk about the chicken buses, like getting to these places.

Oh, mate, these chicken buses.

Did you take any, you took some chicken buses before we met?

Yeah, I took it to northern town.

Because I asked the guy who ran kiwi who's pretty fucking cool and he was married to like a non-guatemalan yeah yeah the american guy yeah was he american no she was i think i think he was from guatemala i think he made to spend time in america nah he's american really yeah

she might have been maybe she was guatemala yeah no i remember i went to that hostel a few times actually in different parts of my trip and i was like uh i'm going to this place because there's shuttles like tourists not tourist shuttles but backpacker shuttles that'll like pull your money and i was like and you go up there and he goes no no you can get to like the a port like a change uptown but then you got to take you got to take chicken buses i was so frightened really

that's fair enough no i like it's new it's so new it is yeah yeah but after being on the chicken bus you should definitely be frightened yeah right yeah yeah good point so it's fair enough but i don't know yeah the drivers are gonna go nuts they go so fast yeah yep there's a guy riding on top and he like jumps and he's like come on come on come on come on he starts yelling at people that are waiting like let's go let's go they don't stop they just slow down these old ladies have to jump on he's like, come on, come on, come on.

They grabbed their hand.

They just start fanging around these corners, like, just so fast.

Oh, mate.

I remember, like, there was one I went on, and I think it was from Guatemala.

They go from Guatemala City to Shella, I think.

And they're just, oh, mate, they're just literally speeding around corners.

And you're actually, they're hitting potholes.

Like, they don't even try and swerve from them.

And all the things are flying everywhere in the bus.

The old ladies are there just like holding on for dear life.

People are falling over.

Like, it actually is nuts.

Like, it actually is a crazy experience.

Yeah.

I don't know, it's a bit risky, but like I think that's

just one of those crazy things that you can go do in Guatemala, you know, like remember that lifer we met?

The what?

The lifer.

The lifer traveler?

Oh, that old guy?

The old guy.

Sort of.

I sort of was quick to forget him.

He was weird.

Yeah, yeah.

You got a lot of people weird.

I was like, where from him?

He's like, oh, I've been traveling for 40 years.

Yeah, yeah.

He's like, I'm house sitting right now.

He goes, where are you guys from?

We're like, to Australia and America.

I was like, oh, cool.

Yeah.

He kind of looked at us weird.

He, they're weird.

The lifers are weird.

I met one guy once in

Mexico, and I was like, oh, where are you from?

And he's like, nowhere.

I'm like, yeah, but you're like, but you are from somewhere.

Yeah, like, where were you born?

He's like, I'm just from planet Earth, mate.

I'm like, I'm like, yeah, whatever.

What a dork.

You're leaning in too hard.

You're leaning in way too hard.

Yeah.

I understand what you're going for, but like, where were you born?

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Yeah, but then we get there.

To Chichi.

Chi-Chi, yeah, yeah.

I met you in Atilan.

You're like, I'll go up there.

I met you at some like coffee shop.

Yes.

I'm like, let's get going.

Yeah.

And we had some food and then we had to.

I had a hitchhike down from my town and nobody would come get me.

And finally, someone did.

So I was like an hour late.

Yeah, yeah.

That's alright.

Sorry.

Yeah, and then we got the bus there.

That took a little bit.

And then the traffic.

And we got out and walked.

Yeah.

In where?

In Chi-Chi, you mean?

Yeah, we got to get out early and then walked.

And then we started seeing all the people dressed up in the costumes.

Talk about the costumes.

I remember a goathead guy.

Goathead guy, yeah.

Or like a ram or something.

Yeah, there's a few things like that.

No, it's like, remember that, like, they look kind of like a face of a baby, like a mask.

Yeah, a big baby mask.

Yeah, and then they would have like all the different colours and feathers and giant feathers.

And feather things coming out all over their body.

It was, yeah, that was.

It was so ornate.

Yeah, it was crazy.

Yeah.

Was the fireworks already going at that point?

Probably.

Because the thing started the next day.

There was like the, um, you know, like the cannon one that they shoot off into the air, just like booze, you know, it was just boom,

boom,

boom, yeah, boom, it would just never stop.

I couldn't figure it out until we saw it later.

I think, I think at the start, it was like that every like 15 minutes.

Yeah, every 15 minutes, it was like going off.

But then, yeah, when we went that one time, it was like every like five seconds when they were like going for it.

So, I don't know what the festival was.

I have no idea what it was even celebrating.

Saint Thomas.

Oh, was that what it was?

Yeah, Saint Thomas.

Saint Thomas.

Yeah, Saint Thomas.

Santo Tomas.

Santa Tomas.

Yeah, the Festival of Santo Tomas.

Yeah, but I don't know who that is.

I don't know who the fuck it is.

But he is.

It's like around Christmas, so I guess it's like a yeah.

It was definitely a religious thing.

So I kind of a vague memory of he was a saint of dogs.

He was the patron saint of dogs.

I might be mixing up with someone else.

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, definitely, maybe.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not too sure.

Everybody's dressed up.

It was so fucking wild.

Yeah, yeah.

And even, yeah, like also traditional people, like with all like their traditional clothes as well yeah um which is really cool just it was like a another world yeah it's weird guatemalans i found to be i try to ask for like uh what are really like your less known observations of guatemala i'll tell you mine what shortest people i've in the world

mine

They are really short.

Cheap, for sure.

Yeah, no, I would say it's actually more dangerous than you would think.

Interesting.

Yeah, I would think out of all the countries that I went to, like the whole of Central America, and

I wasn't in Honduras for too long, but yeah, besides that, Guatemala was the most dangerous.

How long did you travel in South America for?

Like South.

Okay, wait.

Well, the whole trip was 19 months, but that was like Mexico, Central, and South.

So like Central America, South America, 19 months.

Did I say your name?

I don't know if I introduced your name.

No.

Ethan McKenzie?

Yeah, that's it.

Welcome, Ethan McKenzie, to the pod.

Thank you.

How long total?

It was 19 months, and then I did another month in America at the end and like coming home and stuff.

How much did you save up to do that?

20

Australian dollars would be.

Yeah, Australian dollars.

Yep.

You know American dollars?

I could, yeah.

You go by when I was on the trip, it's just you that's the base one because a lot of countries use American dollars.

And then you can, yeah, well, Ecuador, El Salvador, Panama.

All use American dollars.

Yeah, and you sort of they use that as like the conversion.

But let's say it was like

15,000 US maybe for that whole time.

God damn.

Maybe a bit less, maybe, yeah.

How'd you make it last?

Volunteering, yeah.

And just travel cheap.

Just like chicken bust.

Like, like, you know how you said you have like the two options?

For me, there was never another option.

It's only whatever the cheapest one that all the locals are using, you know.

Yeah.

And then it's like that.

You would be great at bargaining.

You're like, that's just, nah, that's too much.

I look back on some of the bargains that I was running and I feel kind of bad.

Because like some lady's there probably trying to to sell her fruit and I'm like give it give me one free if I buy 10 you know yeah but not all the time it's like I got a bit better but like at the start I was a bit like I need to save money but then I was like I'll just because some of them do rip you off they'll be like no they do yeah yeah you told me there was one I was gonna buy some peanuts or something some roasted peanuts and he hit me with a price it was like way high I'm like wait what it's like eight US dollars yeah and the guy's like that's a price I'm like no it was just and you were like Ariari walk away I'm like oh right oh yeah right walk away yeah the guy was just like he saw tall white He was like, no, fuck off.

Yeah, so it's like you have to try and figure out if they're actually just trying to rip you off or maybe they're just giving you a genuine price.

And then you bargaining is a bit of a dick move.

Sure, but if it is, so I was in Ecuador, in the market town in Ecuador, and the tapestry that I wanted for home that I had in the backup drop of a lot of my pods.

And the guy was like, he was like, told sort of, it was like $60.

It's just all right.

It was like $60 US dollar.

I'm like, no fucking way.

And And the guy's like, bro, this took me three months to make.

And I was like, who made it?

He goes, I made it.

It took me three months.

Yeah.

And he was like, there's no price bargain on this.

And we're like, all right, you're right.

He didn't make it.

He didn't make it.

He's lying.

No, I'm just joking.

He might have.

He might have.

He could have been like his nan or something.

But those guys are the, they are the bargainers.

Like, they're the ones you do have to bargain with.

And they are hard to bargain with because everyone knows that.

And they all bargain with them.

So.

They're ready.

Yeah.

And they're like, you think you got a good deal, and you probably still didn't.

but also it still is a good deal it is always still a good deal all the stuff i was gonna buy and then i was like let me wait and buy i was gonna buy a mask i'm like let me see at the airport how much it is and it was like oh five times as much yeah yeah because the further away you get it the less hands it's changed

like if it's a small small town and it's a market they're like well these are farmers from right outside here yeah yeah and so they sell to someone who takes it to like Antigua, sells for a little more.

Or they sell it to Antigua.

They buy it, then they take it to the airport and sell it for more.

Oh, they, yeah, gift stalls.

Or they ship ship it back to America, and they're like, well, now we're really hella pricing this.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yeah.

Gifts off.

Yeah.

It's good to pick up like random stuff along your trip.

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Oh, that reminds me of the

barochos.

Barachos?

Baracho?

Yeah.

Like the drunk people?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't see those any other place.

Wait, what?

Just passed out asleep daytime.

Yeah, yeah.

Besides like the clear homeless people somewhere.

But yeah, no, yeah.

In the middle of the year, there was so many of those.

And no one really judged them.

Like, yeah, they got too drunk.

It was market day.

They're probably, yeah, yeah, exactly.

They're like, whatever.

You just step over them.

No one's like, oh, are they okay?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, asleep.

Just like...

In the middle of like,

you barely can move yourself.

And then, like, everyone, there's a whole crowd just navigating through this one drunk asleep person just in the middle of the group, like.

the crowd there.

The sidewalks are less than between me and you right now.

Yeah, yeah.

They're like swamp, so you can't get around.

There's a car coming at fucking 90 miles an hour behind you, you know, on a nothing street.

And yeah, this guy's just blocking it.

Yeah.

Yeah, those were wild.

So we got there.

People were already taking off their clothes.

All these kids, like, taking off their clothes.

Go for it.

Cough.

Full dab.

And it was just like, let's go.

We've checked into that hotel.

Call it a hotel.

But.

What?

I said I called it a hotel, but I don't know if.

Oh, it's like their house that they've just put a few rooms in, eh?

Yeah.

Something like that, I think.

Yeah, she tried to...

I called ahead.

And it was, I forget the price.

But I think it was like 80 quetzole a night, maybe.

Yeah, probably nothing.

Nothing much.

And then we got there.

I told you this yesterday.

And they got there.

And the lady, it wasn't a guy.

The lady was like $120.

And I was like, no, 80.

Yeah.

She's like, no, 120.

I was like, I called the guy.

He said one.

She goes, no way.

And I'm like, and it wasn't enough to really bitch because I'm like, I don't.

You call my bluff.

I don't want to go to another place right now.

It's getting dark.

Well, not really, but I just wanted to put our stuff down.

And I was was like, fuck, fine.

Probably had the added pressure of me being there being like super stingy and whatever.

Uh-huh.

True.

It helped me save you having you there.

Yeah, but then you would have felt bad being like, I think normally you would have been like, oh, whatever.

Maybe.

I don't know.

But me there being like, what's going on, Ari?

You're going to be pushed over.

You're going to get pushed around, mate.

Like, yeah.

But she came back the next day, that night, and she was like, hey,

talk to my husband.

You were right.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe she was being aware of that.

I was robbing you.

She was like, I didn't realize you were talking to my husband.

I think she talked to him later.

She didn't say it like that.

She's like, esparato, or whatever.

And she just gave me 40.

And I was like, I looked in the eye.

I was like, thank you.

Yeah, nice.

Yeah.

She didn't have to do that.

She didn't have to.

She already got me.

But she, yeah, they're not like thieves there.

They're just like.

I don't know.

Yeah.

They're not trying to do that.

Well, the chicken buses are like.

They're like that as well.

They'll always try and charge you more.

If you're a tourist, you look white or whatever.

They'll like...

It's actually crazy.

Like, they'll charge the people.

You'll see them be like, give them like 20,000 or 20, 20, and they'll be like, to you, and they'll be like, 40.

And you're just like, hand them 20.

And they're like, nah, it's 40.

And it's like, I saw you charge everyone else 20, and they're like, no, it's 40 for you.

And it's like, they're not trying to hide it.

Like, Nicaragua, for example, they're like, no, it's 40.

And they'll like pretend not to hit it.

Oh, no, because you took a staff from here.

Yeah, they'll be like, no, you got a big backpack.

So that's like extra fee or whatever.

Like, they'll try and do like thing.

And then, like, you can actually just be like, I'm not doing it.

Like, no, 20 when I arrive in Nicaragua.

And eventually they'll just let it go after maybe like everyone else pays their 40.

but in guatemala like i got yelled at by an old lady she's like no stop arguing with this man it's actually 40 for you and i was like motherfucker i was like the public usually sticks up for you but like this this lady yelled at me and i was like shit i'm all yeah i'm always afraid that like maybe there is a custom i don't know about maybe there is something that i'm like i'm like because i've seen people like

It was in Cambodia on some island and some lady was like not used to in Southeast Asia.

I don't know how it is in Latin America.

You would know more than me.

But they don't bring your check unless you ask for it at the end of a meal.

They're just like, you can just sit here for hours if you want.

And then when you're like, sir, check, then like, okay.

And this lady goes, this white lady goes, we've been sitting.

She went to the manager.

She goes, we've been sitting here for 20 minutes and the guy will not bring us our check.

Like, he's being rude to us on purpose.

And I want to be like, hey, lady, that's the custom here.

Oh, yeah.

She's not trying to fuck you over.

It's just a different society.

Was this in, what was this?

That was in Cambodia.

Oh, okay.

But

I wanted to know if sometimes they're like, no, no, it's a, there's an out-of-town price and an in-town price.

You know, like at a museum, sometimes you're like, resident pays this much, non-resident.

Like, I get it.

Like, charge the tourists more.

You know, they're poor and that's fine.

It's fair enough.

But like, I think it's just like an unofficial thing.

I don't know.

Because, like, there's many, like, I've been on that bus, that same bus that I did that.

I've done it.

I've taken that bus three or four times and I would pay $20, and they'll be like, $40.

And I'd be like, I know it's $20.

And they're like, okay, it just depends on how stubborn the other person is.

And then that lady yelled at me because she's like, this guy's just trying to, he's rich, he can pay or whatever.

He's a gringo or whatever.

I'm like, you know, I'm not actually, like, I'm traveling for so long.

I don't actually have that much money.

Like, I'm actually trying, like, sure, I do have maybe, like, yeah, I know.

You're a safety net, but you actually have less than they do.

Oh, no, I wouldn't say that, maybe, but

they are really poor, so it makes me feel kind of bad still.

Like, I could have just paid 40.

But if I'm paying the excess, you know, like for every bus, like the tourist price, I'll be, that's like another week of traveling, you know.

Well, that's the thing, too.

It's like, you're going to put that money, you're going to put all 15,000 into South America.

Yeah.

So if they get 600,000, then that's 480 less than you're going to pay for, or 580 less than you could pay in somewhere in like, you know, Cambodia or whatever, like Colombia.

That could be like half my flight home.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You just have to leave early.

Yeah.

Oh, the flight.

So let's get back to Chi-Chi.

Chi-Chi, yeah.

So fucking fun.

Dude, that place is, that was the craziest thing, I think.

One of the...

It was crazy in a weird way.

Like, I did some, like, Akatanga was crazy in that it was like spectacular.

But that was just, there was just so many odd, random, crazy things just happening around you.

Like, the guys asleep there,

like them just setting off the firecrackers in the middle of the street.

Like, the fire, okay.

Okay, so much.

Okay, we got to talk about the firecrackers.

Because it really was, I call it a, when I tell people, I call it a fireworks festival.

And it, it's not.

they just also celebrate they're celebrating tomas well yeah that's why that's why they're setting off the firecrackers it's like their it's their sacrifice to sanitomas because you'll see the families buy the firecrackers and bring them to the guys that they'll set them off after each other and they'll be like this is our donation from our family this is our sacrifice to tomas yeah exactly to the gods and whatever the steps on those street on that church yeah was the spot yep and and i didn't because we didn't know where the boomers were coming from until we saw that yeah and then and we'll talk talk about the fucking big pinwheel in a second and stuff.

But on those steps of the main church, which is like the tourist thing to two, if not in that season, you go up there and there's people prank.

There were people crying there at the top of the steps to like Jesus.

And then there's people like, what the fuck?

You know, that's us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was hectic.

Like, you had to block your ears and like

close your eyes.

You can't look at all the firecrackers because they'll just like, one of them hit you in the eye.

So it was the row where they'd lay it out.

It was like, it was like those strips that stop cars from speeding it's like one of those yeah look yeah well it looks like that yeah and they light it and then just move and it's like

for like the one of them would go off for maybe like two minutes yeah or something like that or maybe a minute the pictures you took were fucking wild i got a couple of you too yeah you got some of me just i got a video

just going hectic and everyone's just turned around and then i just see you up on the uh up on the stairs so i went back over and then you're there just like tall like double the size of everyone else i'm jealous of the guy they'd seen like the guy, the guy dropping the mortars in.

Oh, yeah, and all they would do is light these things, drop them in, and then and plug their ears and move.

And it was like within two seconds, boom!

I feel like you dropped more, boom.

I feel like you would get over it after you would get over it 10 minutes.

You're like, My ears ringing.

He seemed like he was having fun.

Maybe, yeah, maybe.

He's like, That guy, he's like, I'm making the noise.

I'm allowed to make all this noise.

Yeah,

yeah,

god, it was so fucking nuts.

Just boom, boom, boom.

And it was so fun.

I think I think the coolest one was because that was all in that one area.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, and just like in that main square, and they were doing a bunch of them.

But like, I remember, I think it was the first night we're there.

Um,

we were like walking through the streets, and there was like, remember, like, all the people that were dressed up?

Yeah, and that was like a parade of like dress up, like the, and it was just like random, like, Disney characters and stuff, like

whatever.

Everyone was in their costumes and they're like mascots.

Disney characters.

I was like, Scooby-Doo.

Oh, yeah.

Do you remember that there was like a five-minute like parade of like people dressed up and whatever yeah oh dude i forget details yeah yeah oh yeah and that was just on the streets yeah yeah yeah but like for example like you take one of the side streets and there's still like some of those people walking around and stuff and um i remember we're just walking and then this guy's praying with his bible he's preaching out in the street and he's going off for like 10 minutes and everyone's just walking super crowded street like you know and then he just like lays out this firecracker in the middle of everyone and he's sort of just like he just starts light he just lights it and then everyone notices and and they just all just like move from it.

And it's just like,

it like goes off, like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, you know, like, yeah, and everyone's just like there.

He just lights up in the middle of the crowd, and it's like, what is happening?

What is happening?

What is wild?

Yeah, we were in a store.

I was getting a souvenir.

Yeah, exactly.

I was getting a souvenir, some nice, like a bag or something.

Yeah.

And, um, or a mask.

I'm not sure what I was getting there.

That's where we got the bags.

That's where we got the bags.

The little bags.

The little bag.

As well.

And then you might have gotten some other stuff.

I got a big one to store stuff in.

Yeah, yeah.

and that lady did.

That was shitty.

That was a shitty, shoddy equipment.

That was a street one.

The zipper broke.

Oh, did it?

Almost immediately.

I thought it might have.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I just needed something to get shit home.

But anyway, we're in the store, and the lady in the store, she's nice.

And I was asking her, like, where was this mage?

She goes, my auntie.

She lives in this, whatever.

Whatever she said, you know?

Yeah.

Her daughter was there.

And she goes, hey, cover your ears.

She was like, warning us.

Like, oh, hey, you're out of town here.

You won't know this.

Yeah.

Cover your ears right now.

Yeah, yeah.

We're like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

And then we went outside and he's about to light it.

and then he starts lighting and they just all fucking run

i got a video of that as well which is great yeah oh i'll show you after it's pretty funny

and then afterwards just smoke everywhere and everyone just starts walking through and then

it looked like fucking beirut during a war

the smoke is everywhere when you're especially on the steps you're running from it you look you look like a war reporter in that yeah yeah it was like that or something yeah God damn that was fun hi guys today's episode of you'll be tripping and it's brought to you by mud water guys listen everybody everybody gets brain fog.

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So then it was like, okay, so there's also street stalls everywhere to buy stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

And then there was like, we went down this long row of street stalls and comes out and it's a fucking theme park.

It's a carney theme park.

Yeah,

we go to the theme park.

Yeah, we walked down there because I saw it.

I saw it from the distance.

And yeah, you walk along those like stalls all the way until you get there.

Yeah, and then, yeah, that was really cool as well, like going through all the different things.

And it wasn't like, sometimes you go to these these towns and these, like, they might have like the fair in and whatever.

They might have one Ferris wheel and like a few things and whatever.

But like, this was a big event.

So they had like four Ferris wheels and like a bunch of different rides and like bumper cars and stuff.

Like

you don't see bumper cars in South America too often.

Like this was like for them top of the line sort of like thing, you know.

Wow.

Besides Mexico has six flags, but that's a bit different, I guess.

That's different.

Yeah.

That's like, yeah.

I went there.

It was pretty cool.

Did you?

Yeah, it was fun.

And I was like, why not?

But yeah, they had like all the Ferris Ferris wheels and stuff.

And mate, that first night we went there on that machine.

Whatever that contraption was.

It was spinner?

It was spin and up a little bit.

Yeah, so like, well, yeah, well, what did it do?

Okay, well, the way I explained this story, people.

Yeah, the way I explained this story, like, we're there and we're like, fuck, let's go on a ride.

Let's just go on one ride.

Let's see.

Which one should we go on?

And then we see this one, and it.

It looks like you can get into this little cage, and it's like, it looks like a cylinder, right?

Like

like a cylinder that's on its

flat and it's circle and then it goes upwards or whatever.

And it looks like it just spins around.

Yeah.

And we're like, oh, that one looks like it could be a good one, you know?

And then we're waiting, waiting for like to see what it looks like and then maybe we can go on it.

And then we're just waiting so long.

I remember being like, do you want to just get on and just not know what it's all about?

And then just embrace it.

And you're like, all right.

And then we get in.

Travelary.

Travelari is just like, sure, whatever.

Yeah, that was my favorite thing about you.

like i could just say anything and then you'd be like okay

which is great um but then yeah so like they had these cages and they'll like have two kids in there um and then

cages this is what trump wanted

this this theme park was a trump design it was trump national park yeah yeah yeah the dream american dream mate yeah no um

yeah but they had they would fit two kids in this one little cage section like i not i i think it would be worse for you but for me like I could barely fit in there just by myself

Yeah, where the fuck you put your legs?

Yeah, it was fucked like at least it's not gonna go fast.

Yeah

Yeah, well then yeah, and then it started and then that thing didn't just spin around It span around and then just went upside down and then in the other direction like

It just kept going in every direction and we're in this metal fucking tombs and then

oh my god it was like a it was like a trap or something like we we were like victims to this trap like that we just got lured in and we're like this is cool and then all of a sudden we're in like this washing machine that's what it was it was a washing machine washing machine ride thing and like it was horrible like it was good like okay you know for like

a little bit like how long do you think one of these would go for like you were in it right like i asked people like how long how long would you expect this ride to go for like so 30 seconds a minute minute maybe maybe longer maybe a minute five minutes Yep.

Yeah, right?

It like went for that long.

I don't know why, but it just kept going.

And it was like fun for like, for me, it was fun for like one minute, two minutes.

And then I was like, this isn't stopping.

Get me the fuck out of here.

Yeah.

And I was like, right.

I was like, all right, I need to like not, I need to concentrate on not dying right now.

So I was just like, you know, there is that fear because like, what's the safety regulations here?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, like, we don't think of those terms.

Yeah, like things could happen.

And it's like, okay.

Oops.

Oops, like you knew what you're getting yourself into, right?

Like they, that's what they would say, I feel like.

Yeah, you signed the waiver.

I'm like, I didn't sign anything.

Well, anyway, fuck it.

You You know seatbelts.

Like, well, enjoy.

Yeah.

I was just saying random terms.

Yeah.

And I was just like, fuck, this is like not stopping.

And I was like, this is a bit of a rough one.

And I just hear you in the back like, oh,

and I was like, oh, Ari's struggling.

Cause you're like, how tall are you 6'1?

6'3.

Yeah, well, I'm

6'1, I would say, maybe 6'6'1.

Still fuckable.

Yeah.

Still over the.

Yeah, just with a unit of measurement.

Just made it.

It's 6 feet as a real woman.

Fuck you.

That's six feet.

That is, you're either over that or under that.

Yeah, yeah.

So I was like, you're probably even fucking struggling more than I am.

Yeah.

And that eventually stopped.

And I just remember you just going over to the side of the park and just puking.

And I was like, fuck, I might have killed him, eh?

I was like, bro, I am not in a good way.

I am not in a good way.

You're like, all right, take a breath.

And I'm like, no, no, no.

I've been here before.

Let's go out towards the outside of the park.

I got to take care of this.

Yeah.

it didn't end the night though no yeah what do we do after that I think

no but they we went back so we went we yeah walk back in

and then we just hung out at the festival but we came back to that um

like the theme park theme park thing yeah fair fate thing um

the next night yeah yeah and then went on the Ferris wheels then that that's when we went crazy on the rides like we went on like four different ones right the ferris wheel was

how do we explain this ferris Ferris wheel?

The Ferris Wheel is supposed to be a pleasurable slow ride-up with a loved one or a friend, and you look at the sights and you're like, oh, look how high we are.

This is nice.

You think of like a normal Ferris wheel?

Like it just moves in a normal way.

What do you think?

Five times?

Five times as fast.

Five times.

Ten times the speed.

Like it was like...

How could you?

It's hard to explain

how fast it was.

Like, it was way more fast than you you would think a ferret sword I've never seen a ferris wheel go this fast I didn't think it was possible for it to go that fast yeah because you would get it went forwards and backwards yeah either way

yeah and when you get when it's going you go backwards on a low end and you get it to the top and there's this thing where you get to up and then start going down yeah

yeah you'd have like momentum yeah look forward but then you do backwards you're like that'll be better and you're like just flying away from everything and then oh and then your stomach would just fucking yeah yeah i remember i would every time that would happen i would like lean forward and then like as soon as you get a thing i'd lean back and it would make it even worse yeah you you were trying to really make it go like ride up and down.

I was like Ethan, I get what you're doing

It's a funny concept, but I just please don't Yeah, I didn't care.

I just did it.

You're right to do it.

Yeah, I think it was funny.

Went on the bump cars.

They were kind of disappointing.

Bump cars are disappointing.

Yeah.

Go straight.

Yeah, it was kind of...

No, that was just slow.

Yeah.

I think I got one good hit on you and it was just

like

that.

I remember I got one of these kids though, and I felt kind of bad, bad, but they're in for it.

I feel like that's what you're in there for, yeah.

I know you want to win, kid, but it's not going to happen today.

Yeah.

Just like you and Backgammon today.

Fuck.

It's nothing better than beating a seasoned Jew in backgammon.

And a double to end it.

That last game of mine was...

Everything was

three doubles in a row.

Yeah, it was just, God.

That was like, oh, I couldn't have asked anything better.

But I think it made up for all the luck that you had in the first few games.

You still rolled that double sixes in that first game to fucking come out of there.

Yeah,

I didn't, it wasn't completely unlucky.

There were some good ones.

So, okay, so a couple more memories I have.

Yeah.

One, I don't have to remember this.

Well, I want to talk about the cemetery.

Yeah.

I want to talk about that weird thing that they were like, it looked like they were sacrificing a child, but they weren't.

It was like the real indigenous, like, hey, we're here because of this.

Like, a local townsman was like, councilman was like, we're part of the indigenous.

By the way, here's another observation of Guatemala.

The most

indigenous, like, like, part of the population of any Latin American country I've been to.

They're all like a small part.

Like, Ecuador, they're like, there's a strong voting party, but they're not the majority.

And here, it seemed like it's all indigenous.

Yeah, there's a lot of indigenous people in Guatemala, yeah.

Mexico, no.

El Salvador, no.

Mexico, no, for sure.

Yeah.

Panama.

Costa Rica, no.

Yeah, it's just Guatemala's berry.

And I think maybe that it could.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, the Amazon, obviously, mostly indigenous, but like, that's not the most people are not in the Amazon.

Yeah.

That's fine.

There's a lawnmower going off somewhere.

Yeah, shit.

Yeah, that'll be a little annoying.

But what is it?

I don't know.

He's just doing his lawn over there.

That's probably going to be constant.

Not ideal.

It's pretty close.

Yeah.

Okay, finishes yard.

God damn, this fucking whole area is so goddamn nice.

I mean, we're in such a fucking, I don't know, a rich part of.

Dude, that house we saw

from the lookout.

I feel like that was like Rupert Murdoch's vacation home.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

It's pretty remote though.

Pretty remote.

It'd be pretty annoying to get to, but it looks pretty big, yeah.

Unless you're helicopter in.

Oh, yeah, true.

Okay, so back to Chi-Chi.

Back to this fucking

Festa de Soto Tomas.

Yeah, yeah.

So some other memories that we gotta talk about.

Wait, what?

Yeah, which

what were we talking about?

I think we probably should have figured that out.

Yeah, we should have thought, all right, let's get back to this.

Or whatever.

No, we got the firework fireworks.

No, it was.

Well,

let's talk about the cemetery first.

Yeah, we'll see.

So one of the things that were like, one thing to visit in this town is a cool cemetery.

Yeah, that's like the well-known.

That's very cool.

Very nice.

That was the first thing that we did.

You're right.

You put our shit down, then we went to the cemetery.

Yeah, yeah.

Because Because we could see it from

our little hotel.

You know what I want?

I was actually thinking it was a regret of mine.

Let's talk about regrets for a second.

We have with us some regrets.

So what's your one big regret for

the sake?

Let me think.

Just light this on me.

Mine was as you think.

No, you just had one.

You already had one.

Not taking a picture of something.

Oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

You're right.

Yeah.

So mine was, I wanted to do a podcast.

I was already starting to record these podcasts.

Yeah.

I was like, I want to do one with you from that cemetery.

would be a cool backdrop oh about your travels yeah but then we wouldn't have done it about chi chi which is also yeah yeah yeah you know i was like ah fuck i'll never see that guy again

well here you are it worked out yeah yeah

hmm yours was not getting that picture yeah well yeah the fireworks were crazy and there was this one one that was just

i feel like you wouldn't believe it if I didn't actually have a video or something and have a video of like all of the other ones and they're like

okay and there was another one that was really good i'm glad i got a video of that but there was this other one that was just super cool well it was these towers yeah we talked about we saw them setting it up

yeah yeah we saw them setting it up it was these metal piping towers that went up 50 feet yeah yep yeah and there was it was crazy like they would um it's like a playground or something yeah like 50 feet and they'll set up all with fireworks and everything and like things going off and it's interesting like you they were like off from the main tower like they were all setting off different different things, things happening all the time, and it would be going for like half an hour.

Yeah, all these different ones, and you would like think that it's all done on the tower, and then all of a sudden they'll just have some other fucking thing go off in the tower.

People are up there, fucking flying around.

Oh, yeah, well, they were climbing them, yeah.

Well, then you got the drunk guys underneath, they were dancing in the thing.

The drunk guys down there,

there was like that psychedelic sort of flower pattern thing happening, going off, and then the fireworks.

Because at the top was a spin wheel, yeah.

Wait, and after you literally fireworks, the whole thing would spin and go

and just make it spin faster and faster.

Yeah, I don't know if it was that one, or there was like the this stuff.

I put the video up, and then the guys you just see him dancing underneath these drunk barrachos.

You have videos of that?

Yep.

Oh, nice, dude.

Dude, guys, if you're listening, this is one you want to check out on YouTube.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, and um, but I think what was really what was really cool, the lead-up to those fireworks was

just the crowd.

I'm not sure if you remember how crowded that area got.

Like, we stood there on the church an hour before, making sure that we had good seats for the firework.

Like, we had a good position.

And it just got crowded and crowded and crowded.

And it was like, have you ever been to like a festival where you're like you're in the middle of the mosh pit and you can like barely move?

Yeah.

It was like that.

And there's like old ladies, old men trying to get through this crowd, and they're just getting crushed.

And we'll just stand up and watch it all.

We'll watch it all because we were standing up from behind on the on the stairs, you know.

The stairs of the church.

Yeah, because everyone wanted to watch it.

And that was just just crazy.

And then, like, trying to get this fucking huge church stool thing,

trying to get it through.

And I'm like, good luck.

Yeah, they're like, move, move.

Yeah, like, there's no space.

There's no space.

People couldn't even move, like, going through, like, the main thing.

Move to where?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But then as soon as the fireworks started, that's when...

Everyone just stopped and just started watching it.

Wherever you are.

Yeah, it's already just

up moving and people were just watching the fireworks.

And now we got a good spot.

Yeah, we did, right?

My legs are hurting a little bit, but that was alright.

stood there for like an hour but um yeah and then the fireworks started the tower was happening and everything and then that was going for like 30 minutes i think and then this is this is the the fire oh well this is your big memory yeah yeah

wildest thing yeah so this is the firework that i didn't get a video of because i didn't know what was happening and then as soon as i saw that that's when i started videoing everything else in case something like that happened again but like what happened it was crazy like at the top there was like think of like a circle like a hula hoop if you guys know what a hula hoop is yeah yeah cool like that, with like, and it's a bit thicker, right?

And then it has a firework on one side facing one direction, and the firework on the other side facing the other direction.

So it would just spin, right?

And then when it lit, it just started spinning up, and it just, like a UFO, it floated up into the air and just like went off in the sky and just like went off like hundreds of meters into the town somewhere and just would have just fucking landed in someone's house.

Like

we don't even know where it is to this day.

No regulations at all.

Yeah, it was great.

It was just like, like, what the fuck?

That's our fire.

Yeah, like, where'd it go?

Like, where'd it go?

It could have just landed anyone's house.

It could have hit someone.

Oh, my God.

Oh, God.

It was ridiculous.

And then they started shooting these, like, I'm not sure if you've seen fireworks and it's like they just shoot off.

It looks like fireballs is going up.

They had that.

on like every side of the tower so like northeast southwest and just shooting it into the sides so they're just they're just shooting into them into the town as well and like because it's a bit higher than every any building so i wasn't hitting anything but i'll just shoot them across i put that video up that that was insane um

god that was insane yeah i remember after we were there this stayed with me so we were there and then they started a big dance in the middle oh yeah and it was cool watching everybody dance during the day right picturing at night oh okay and then this one old man had this his old wife with him yep do you remember this

and she he was like grabbing her holding her close and she's like all right, all right, get off.

Oh.

Do you remember this?

Maybe.

And then she was like, get off, get off.

And he was like, come on.

And he just like grabbed her and was like dancing with her.

Jesus Christ.

And it seemed like that was his wife.

Yeah.

And then she was like, no, I'm out of here.

And he like, he like went after and like grabbed her.

And people were like, oh, hey.

And but it was like, I don't know what to do here.

And he was like abusing her for sure.

Yeah, far.

Wasn't he really drunk?

He was so.

Yeah, I think I do remember that.

And then she was like,

I've had enough with you.

And she started to walk away.

And he went after her and kind of like

pushed her to the ground or something.

It was something where the whole crowd was like, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey.

Yeah, yeah.

But I was like,

I don't know what to do.

Yeah, yeah.

There's also, I was like, if I if I'd be like, hey, that's not cool.

I'm like, well, she's going home to him.

Is this going to like...

How do you know if it is actually her wife?

Her husband.

I don't know.

You know, but it probably is, to be honest.

Otherwise, people would just be like, fuck off, drunk person, you know.

Yeah.

The drunk people there weren't always so bad.

You know, remember remember the guys that gave us the drinks?

They were like, oh my God, you're not from here.

Yeah.

Have a drink.

And we're like, how much is it?

Like, no, no, no, we'll pay.

We'll pay.

And I was like, cool.

All right.

Cheers back.

All right, then.

See you later.

Adios.

Dude, I got to.

I was watching the

semifinal game of the World Cup.

Well, we watched it in,

not in Tigua.

In Shella.

Wait, with us?

Yeah, we watched one of the games.

Yeah, in Shella.

In Shella.

And I watched a later game, and I was watching at some burrito place, and these guys at Cross, because everybody had had it on.

I remember that.

And it was at some pharmacy and they had it on.

They were like five people watching and they kept looking at me from right across the road in a small town I went to.

And

then eventually they're like, it was like halftime and they're like, you're rooting for the Netherlands?

I'm like, no.

And they're like, come on, you're rooting for the Netherlands.

I'm like, I'm not from the Netherlands.

And I was like, well, it's either that or fucking whoever Messi played for, Argentina, and you don't look like you're Argentinian.

I'm like, well, I'm not Netherlands either.

You could be Argentinian.

I could be.

Yeah.

Yeah, some white Argentinians.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, but then afterwards, afterwards, Messi One, I think it might have been shootouts or whatever.

They were all like, and they sent kids to go buy some

Quetzaltica.

And like, you drink it?

And I'm like, if you're buying it.

And they're like, yeah.

And they're just bottles of this fucking just getting drunk off that Quetzaltica.

Yeah.

Where was that?

That was in one of that northern town where I went to that weird Temezco.

Oh, okay.

I was looking for.

Yeah, nice.

World Cup was crazy there.

Everyone just loved Messi One.

Shut down.

Everyone just went to Argentina in there.

there.

Yeah.

So, okay, so that.

Yeah, the fireworks was crazy.

The fireworks was crazy.

We're going back to the graveyard?

Yeah, let's talk about the graveyard a little.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I know you, yeah, yeah.

The trash bit.

It was like a whole...

It was like this beautiful, colorful graveyard.

Yeah, we're walking through, and we're like enjoying it.

It's like...

Every tombstone is like a different colour, like brightly painted colours, and it was just really, really nice.

Like as well,

and the grass was really green as So it was just like a beautiful place to walk around.

We smoked a joint there.

We looked for a grave to go to the bottom.

Yeah, so we tried to find a place to where there's nowhere to be and look at.

And I feel like, I want to smoke, but I don't want to

ruin anyone's sport.

But I was like,

you want to

smoke a joint in the graveyard?

I was like, isn't that like

a bit, how you going?

And you're like, you've never smoked weed in the graveyard?

That's what we do.

That's where you smoke weed?

Yeah, and I was like, of course.

All right.

Where you go to smoke weed.

And I was like, all right, let's do it.

Yeah, and then we found that spot on the outside, and then we saw that trash.

There was like a gully just

completely trashed up.

Yeah, you couldn't see anyone took this trash dumped it over there.

It's really sad.

He had some stray dogs going through it.

I remember a dog.

I was filming a dog going, like, who was eating some food or some flowers from a graveyard.

I was like, what are you doing, dog?

And he just looked up at me.

He's like, you talked about it.

And I was like, sorry, buddy.

He goes, and then he went back to eating.

But he was like from like 30 yards away.

It was great.

That was cool.

That was cool.

Just walking around there.

And then you could see the town from the graveyard when you walked over the hill a bit.

That was nice.

Yeah.

So here's another memory.

Before the graveyard, we finished the graveyard.

I just want to say, I remember us walking around and we're like, this is a really cool thing.

And like, we're just checking out this graveyard.

It's like a thing you do here.

And I start looking around and there's like...

local people here and they're like doing their thing and I'm like and you can see like they're real sad and I'm like oh shit we're actually we're actually in a graveyard, in a current graveyard, yeah, and we're here just there, just talking and like high.

Like, I was like, Ayari, I think we probably need to get the fuck out of here.

Yeah, we need to get out of here.

I think we might be disrespectful in this graveyard.

And then we left.

Yeah.

Which was, yeah.

But we're mostly.

Some of these are like abandoned graveyards, and you're like, whoa, you come across.

I'm like, this is cool.

I was fucking in one.

You were?

Yeah.

Nice.

With this chick, and we're like, something banana graveyard.

Was she wait?

Was she alive or was she dead?

And then we were like, like these little pods of graves, you know, and then more jungle and then a pod of like 10 grits.

And we were like, oh, let's fuck.

And we fucked in one.

And they were like, that was wild.

And then we like heard some like stuff from the next pod over and there was like a burial going on.

And we're like, oh, it's not a fucking

ancient.

Oh my God.

This is so rude.

They're just doing their thing and they're just here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Imagine if the guy came over and I'm like, can you guys just like.

Can you guys not like fuck while we're trying to bury my brother?

Imagine just walking past.

I mean, everyone's just like looking at you like they've all known what you've been doing.

Yeah, they're just staring at you.

Like, come on, guys.

So, we're at this indigenous thing where the local councilman is like doing like a thing.

It's Spanish or Quechua.

It's tough to understand.

Oh, we got to talk about the screaming contest also.

We got to get back to that.

Well, that's...

Yeah, go on, yeah.

And they're talking about how the origins of this.

I'm barely following it.

And then you go, hey, do you watch Suits?

Was that the the show?

Yeah, and I'm like, No, like, there's a show, Suits.

I'm like, Maybe I've heard of it.

I don't know.

You're like, You don't watch it?

And I'm like, No, I don't know.

I don't watch it.

And you're like, Like, why?

I remember being like, like, maybe, yeah.

And they were like, There's a guy across your bus.

It was like a big tent.

Yeah.

And then, because there was some rain, that's why everybody's wearing like fucking protection on their, on their costume.

Yeah, it was raining.

And then through the tent, on the other side of the tent, you're like, there's the guy from Suits.

Yeah.

And I'm like, you're like, isn't that him?

I'm like, I don't know, man.

I don't watch the show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was Lewis Litt.

What's his name?

Lewis Litt.

That's his, I don't know what his actual name is, but.

Kind of weird-looking face, chubby-ish.

Yeah, yeah.

He's like.

Shouldn't be a movie star.

Shouldn't be a celebrity actor.

He's like one of those actors that is an actor because they look funny.

Right.

He must be good also.

Yeah, obviously.

Yeah, yeah.

I think.

Yeah, and you were like, I think that's him.

I was like, oh.

Yeah.

No, I was certain.

Yeah.

But you were like, it's for sure.

I should go talk to him.

Yeah.

And I remember, I want to hear your opinion now looking back.

I was like, you should not talk to him.

And you were like, why?

I'm like, he is in

Chi Chi in a fucking indigenous fucking festival in Guatemala.

He's with probably, look like his family on a tour group.

Yeah, wife or something.

Yeah, family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I was like, I went behind him and I was like, oh, they're speaking Hebrew.

And he was like, oh, he's Israeli.

Or his wife's Israeli or something like that.

And I'm like, he doesn't want to be a celebrity here.

He just wants to see this the way we're seeing it.

And you're like, I'm just going to call him by his character name.

And I'm like, I would not do that.

You're like, I got to say something.

I'm like, I think the best move is to say nothing.

Yeah, yeah.

And then the next day, you're like, no, I regret I should have said something.

No, I said something.

You did?

I went up there and behind him I farted.

You what?

I farted.

You farted?

Yeah, I just did.

You farted?

Next to him, yeah.

I didn't really like

know what else to say.

So you just farted?

Yeah.

I just wanted to know.

I just wanted to fart next to Lover Slit.

Fucking first world fart.

Stop farting on him.

Hopefully he doesn't hear this.

Come after me.

Do you think he recognized you seeing him?

Do you think he recognized him?

Oh, maybe, yeah.

But, you know, there weren't other white people around.

So maybe I was looking at him because he was another white person.

Yeah.

There was some of that where you're like, you ever get that when you're in a real remote place?

You go further and further away from society.

Like in Tigua, there's so many whites.

Then you go further and further away and you're like,

hey, there's no whites.

Also blacks, but like no, no non.

And then you see one and a little bit like, you're ruining this for me.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't get me to look at you.

It was like that in Columbia a bit when I went to North Part.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

Or actually, yeah, yeah, different parts in Panama and San Blas Islands and stuff.

But yeah, I get that.

But it's like, I figure, like, if I'm there, then there might be someone else like me there as well.

Just like that.

I mean, in fact, they have a right to be there.

Oh, yeah.

It's just like, damn, it is nice.

Yeah.

I'm sure there's places out there with no white people, but you're not there.

That northern town

used to be more of a tourist stop than wasn't, and I was the only white, and I did what I had, I was going there to do, and I was like, well, let me leave.

And then I'm like, looking around, I'm like, where am I going?

Was there no other tourists?

I'm like, this is what I've been looking for.

Nice.

There's a town square, a couple chicken places.

Did they speak Spanish?

Chicken was huge there.

Nope.

They didn't speak Spanish.

Barely.

Some did, but not much.

So you both barely spoke Spanish.

We were both speaking our second language.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trying to bargain.

I'm like, where does this come from?

Yeah.

This lady, one lady, didn't know how to write down numbers.

She had to get her son in to tell her how to write down like 100 quetzel.

Oh, true.

She was like, she's like, told me the number.

She learned that in Spanish.

And then I was like, how much?

Because like Cinquenta and

she wrote it.

She's like, hey, come here.

And then he wrote down 150.

And I'm like, whoa.

Yeah.

You didn't know how to write that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of chicken is another underrated observation of Guatemala.

They love fried chicken.

Yeah.

The pollo loco.

The crazy chicken.

So, so wait, where did we leave off?

What did we, oh, I know.

There was that little festival square where we were.

Yeah, where they were dancing.

They had like all the people come in in their costumes and they'll dance and they'll like.

The Toros.

The guys dressed up as Toros and they had to run through.

Yeah, yeah, the bulls.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

There were all these different characters people were dressed up as.

Yeah.

There was a bunch as bulls bulls and they would like do the dance and stuff.

I wish they actually had them doing that for real though, I guess.

But maybe that was.

Actual Bulls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because everybody's dressed up as a character.

Yeah.

That was cool.

And that was all fen stuff.

We were watching that.

And then when they, and then, yeah, and then I remember

they

stopped dancing and it was like everyone's just there.

Maybe there's like another event coming.

You know, they're waiting for like more people to do something else or whatever.

And then like the people that are like hosting it, they had like their microphone and stuff and they're like sort of just killing time.

So what they did, they just got like a bunch of kids from the crowd to come into the area or whatever.

And they're like, run this competition.

It's kind of like half-time at like a sport thing or whatever.

And they're just like, all right, we're going to do a competition.

Who can just yell the longest?

The longest, not even the loudest.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's just like kid,

kid one, man.

You know, like.

All right, not bad.

Just set the mark.

Yeah.

Shut the mark, mark the beat.

And the other kid would do it.

And there was this one kid that was like doing his his yell.

And at the end, he's like, eh.

And

the other guy just comes and he's like, nah, man, nah, nah, you're dying.

They had follow-ups.

They were kids, like, like, eight-year-olds, be like, fuck off.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Obviously, you cheated.

I was like, yeah, nice competition, guys.

Yeah.

Could have come up with something a bit better, to be honest.

Yeah, I could have easily.

That was just, it was just like the combination.

Like that festival and the whole Chi-Chi thing was just the combination of just everything was just so random.

It was so random, which made it perfect.

Yeah.

We didn't know what we were walking into.

Yeah, and it was highly religious as well.

Like, remember, like, some of the, like, it was like a march they went through with, like, the big chair, and there was, like, the traditional ladies, they'll be, like, there with, like, the candles in their hand, and the candles are just melting into their hand, and they're just

walking like that.

That's just like what they do.

They didn't have it, like, on a holder.

It was, like, on their hand, it's melting all through their fingers and stuff.

And they're just like, that's, and they had, like, their baby on their front.

Those Mayans are so fucking tough.

It was just random.

And just the firecrackers.

Just the firecrackers.

I mean, that's mostly what I remember.

Just the firecrackers.

I just, like, that one time we're like, it's gone off now.

Like, we were like somewhere out in the town.

We just heard it just go, boom.

And we're like, let's get, let's go.

And we're like, go, go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because if you're in another part of town, if you're where the, if you're where the,

the fireworks, where the roller coasters were and stuff, you're like, we're so far away from the town square.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But if you're up near where the church was, where we were getting that stuff and the lady's like, watch out.

We were far away from that.

That was somewhere in the middle.

It was just spread out.

We didn't know the schedule.

Yep.

Yeah.

Oh, God.

What a fun fucking place.

Well, the different food as well, all the different foods, yeah, just like different things.

Be like, you want to just have one of those?

And there was like five cattle, like, sure, yeah, yeah, try that, try that, try that.

The whole time, we're just high and eating greasy but good random food and watching fireworks.

And just, it was, and we're like the only white people there, besides, I think, maybe, I think, I might have seen like ten others, maybe, yeah, the whole time, not very much.

Yeah, did you feel at all?

I say this, but I already know the answer.

Did you feel at all?

Like, what are you doing here, vibes?

And like, how dare you be here, vibes?

Maybe, but.

I did not.

No?

I thought of people like, look, what are you doing here?

Like, that kind of like, interesting, but not like that.

I feel like you get both.

I'd feel like you get some people that are like, wow, enjoy the festival, guys.

And there's some people like,

fuck off.

You know, you always get some people that are probably more racist and whatnot, you know, and more accepted.

Yeah.

You know, but you just, but like, the thing is, you just know that they know

that there are tourists going to come to the town because that town actually is a huge market, and people go there on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

That's right.

Or Thursdays and Saturdays, because it's like the biggest market in Central America.

So, we went on the days that it wasn't actually a big market.

Wait, in Chichi?

Yeah, something like that.

I'm pretty sure it is like one of the biggest markets in Central America.

Yeah, Chichi.

A market day.

Yeah, exactly.

Kind of like Otabalo in Ecuador.

Uh-huh.

So they're very used to having tourists around.

So they're probably

not like they would have just been happy to see only 10.

They wouldn't be like, what the fuck?

It's not like an uncontacted tribe.

Like, what's your white skin all about?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They'll be like, we get you guys once in a while.

Exactly.

Maybe you get a lot of people from town that don't actually come to Chichi.

They're not from Chichi.

It would have been a lot of people actually that are coming in maybe for the day or something.

Oh, yeah, nearby.

Yeah, from different towns and stuff.

Maybe they don't see white people.

Dude, it fucking ruled so hard.

Yeah, I forgot all those little stalls we went to were like, let's try that, let's try that, let's try that.

And people are interested to see what we'd think of it, too.

I'm like, this is so good they'd be like thanks i wish i had um some photos of some of the stuff we had because i don't remember i just was too focused on eating yeah i remember being like let's eat that and i was i'm not taking photos or whatever yeah you really had to make a decision you're like well my stomach only i i can afford all this but my stomach only goes so much so i really gotta make a choice here

i remember they had like the farm animals as well i remember like they had that

weird remember that turkey i don't know what that bird was but had that penis on its head remember and then when it like and then the ladies would come and be like, they'll pick it up and they'll like lift it up and feel it and be like, oh, is this a healthy one?

And when they picked it up, the freaking little hangling penis would get erect because it's like getting touched and it's like on its on guard or whatever, you know?

And I'm where the, I remember sitting there eating that, just looking over, being like, what the fuck is that animal?

Like, that is just the weirdest looking animal.

It was wild.

And they would come up and like, maybe if it was a good one, they would just buy it for their farm or whatever.

Jeez, what a market.

It wasn't just like tchotchkes it was like oh people come here to get stuff during the festival yeah like they need

yeah as well yeah there's that knife salesman that you were really into knife and gun salesman oh they yeah yeah you were like i'm pretty much not buying i didn't tell you need to tell you that but like i'm interested to talk because they're elite like the what is it the um oh what are those

it's the knives that just stick right out oh a switchblade yeah yeah they're illegal here illegal in america yeah so i was like oh my gosh you know and i'm like i was like pressing i'm like power because we also don't have like guns and stuff in Australia.

So we don't.

It's fun to touch them.

Yeah, well, I shot one when I finished my trip.

I went to America and I had cousins there.

And we went to Death Valley and went camping and stuff.

Yeah.

And they had a handgun, and I shot it.

It was cool.

Yeah.

It's funny.

It is fun.

Yeah, it was.

It was like powerful or something, you know.

I'm happy that it's not in Australia, but it was still kind of cool.

Well, there's this vibe.

My brother was working in Luxembourg for a while.

Yeah.

And so people all over different countries all live there.

It's just like a town country.

And they're like, oh, you're from America.

He's like, yeah.

He goes, how many guns do you have?

And he was like, none.

They're like, come on.

And he's like, no, I don't have any guns.

And they're like, all right, but you're in the minority.

He goes, no, most people don't have guns.

Oh, you're like, come on.

Yeah, true.

I guess in the cities and stuff.

It's just like most people don't have, it's like a small minority of people have guns.

Yeah.

But the story is everyone has guns everywhere.

And that's what you hear.

And he's like, I'm telling you, almost nobody I know has a gun.

And they're like, that's, no, you're lying.

But anyway, it is fun to hold one.

I do not.

I mean, I got this guy.

These two guys.

Yeah.

When the sun's out, the guns have come out.

Overall, I'd say it was a great fucking trip.

Yeah, that was cool.

And then you went away and I went to the airport.

Yeah, you had to leave.

Took a chicken bus to the airport and you went to...

Yep.

Where did I go?

Yeah, you went somewhere.

I went back to the lake.

It was coming up to Christmas because I think that was like the week before Christmas.

And then I was like volunteering at that hostel I sent you to, and I wanted to go and do the big Christmas there and

New Year's and everything, you know.

Oh, damn, this was fucking cool.

Is there any other memories of this place you were forgetting?

Chi Chi, yeah.

I mean, it was, I did a pretty good job of fucking saying how fucking rat it was.

I was moving around, it was pretty cool.

Um,

no, I don't remember.

Yeah,

I think that was pretty much it.

Just like,

yeah,

just the roller coasters and the ferris wheels are great.

Fun trip.

Yeah.

It was cool.

All right, so here's something I asked people.

A couple things.

Yeah.

One, if you have any travel tips, one tip, but it could be anything.

Not your main one, but a lot of people say travel light, you know, whatever it is.

Well, yeah.

Okay, well.

Oh, you put me on the spot here.

Okay, in the meantime, while you're semi-thinking about that, any other countries you're like on the horizon, you're like, I'm really looking forward to going there.

Or I really want to get to that place.

Oh, yeah.

I've been saying for a while I really want to go to China

China rules.

Yeah, I think I've talked to you about this because you've been to China and I just want to go there and just like go to like if you like Google mountains in China.

Oh, you're a hiker.

They have it there.

I gotta believe they're on touch.

Yeah.

Those people don't have hiking days off the way like First World does.

Yeah, yeah.

But like some of them are like the screensavers on Apple.

Yeah.

And you're like, where is that?

You're like, where in China is this?

Yeah, well, yeah.

Yeah, it's just ridiculous.

And they do like some crazy VF VFRATAs.

You know, like the, you have, like, the metal things in the walls, and you sort of can, like,

climb up them with a safety thing or whatever.

But, like, they have a bunch of those, which would be pretty crazy.

You probably die, but it'd be cool.

Yeah, China would be awesome.

I haven't been to Europe before.

I've only really spent all my time in...

I've spent like two and a half years in Latin America.

You say you're fluent now, Spanish?

To everyone here in Australia, I would be fluent.

To someone that's fluent, probably not.

You're doing a great job taking a class and really diving into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was surprised because also I would think Australians, nobody would speak any Spanish.

No, no one does.

It's only like the tourists that are actually here.

There's a lot of people from Argentina in Australia.

But you were like, damn, you're flowing.

It almost seemed like you stopped speaking Spanish to let me in.

I'd be like, all right, let's be friends for a minute.

You're not going to be able to keep up in fucking Spanish.

Well, we just asked you to speak Spanish the whole time.

But like, you were speaking Spanish to everybody else.

Because that's what I noticed also.

The hostels there.

The hostels

in

southeast asia are a lot of americans irish uh canadians uh um

some like argentinians or whatever but they meet up in the language of english that's germans everywhere denmark yeah but i saw a lot of like oh i'm from mexico city i'm from argentina and they met up in the language of spanish oh okay yeah well and then if there was somebody like me like oh hey guys let's fucking switch for this one idiot yeah um yeah a hundred percent that's more likely um that does happen more often in South America because you obviously have all the countries and everything like that.

And you've got people from Spain as well.

So if you just get yourself in one of those groups, but I'll be honest, like, still, everyone just speaks English.

Like, every European will communicate to each other through English, unless they're from, like, Austria or Germany and whatnot.

Yeah.

And then French and whoever.

And maybe Quebec, they can have that.

French, whatever.

But yeah, mainly people do is just speak English.

So.

Yeah.

But you're right.

It does happen more often.

Yeah, they speak some Spanish, but you know, the universal language.

Here's my travel tip now for me for this episode.

Okay.

Anywhere in South America, look up

where a local festival is and then get to it.

Yeah, that's a good time.

Go away from your fucking travel plans and go, I'd rather just see what this one's all about.

It's going to be something wild and it's going to be within a four-hour fucking ride.

Yep.

Yeah, okay.

That's more specific than most.

Some people are travel light.

Some people have a good toiletries kit.

Some people are.

Yeah,

when you say travel light, I would say like, i was happy to take a few more items because like i was taking buses and stuff you know you don't actually need to have a small bag like i was i took all my hiking gear and everything i'm obviously like like you said i like hiking i took all my hiking stuff to go camping and everything and i did a lot of tours on my own like a lot of i hiked up the tahomuco after that time you went to the lake i went up there and just hike went it was like the highest volcano in central america wild you were just there alone yeah by myself yeah i just went up yeah it was cool honestly and i was able to just do it by myself i just caught a bus over there chicken bus bus over, and just hiked up.

You know, whereas if you paid a tour,

you'd pay like $200, $300 to do it.

I saved that because I had that stuff with me.

So, and it depends where you're going as well, but like,

don't be worried to take

some random items like that.

You don't have to go too

ultra-light.

That you think you'll need.

Yeah.

Sandals are really good.

That's like where they put up the fucking travel tip.

Yeah, yeah.

Sandals are really good.

Yeah, I like the sandals.

I had a good pair and and they can like undo the back so they can be like slides and

normal sandals, so it's a good one.

Yeah.

But I don't know.

Just take it easy.

I don't know.

No, that wasn't a great travel tip.

I have heaps.

Like, I could go on, I could talk to you for an hour about travel tips.

Think of a lesser-known one that you would like, that you would tell somebody.

Shit.

I know one.

What?

That you might have.

What?

What do you bring?

Like, there's...

My friend told me, bring a Bose, his tip, he didn't wasn't, bring a Bose, a small Bose

speaker.

You'll be the hero of the fucking

hostel.

Oh, yeah.

That's kind of cool.

But I brought settlers of Catan.

There you go.

I was in Mexico, and

actually, well, yeah, I was in Mexico.

That's where I started my trip.

My friend had it in his car.

He was like Mexican, and we played a bunch.

And then we did a road trip and then went to

Walmart.

And they had it there.

And

I'm not sure if I'm incriminating incriminating myself here.

Yeah, but

stole it.

Well, it's fine.

I steal all the time.

You know, you know,

I technically bought a jelly cup.

Let's say

you got the jelly cup in Walmart.

You take the label off, you put it over the label, and you know, it was 35 bucks.

Too much.

Yeah, and it's Walmart.

Like, I don't give a fuck about Walmart.

It has been settled.

So we got that.

I got it for like, it was

25 cents or something like that.

Or a dollar or something.

I can't remember.

but I took it out of the box, and then I got one of these nice bags, kind of like what I got from Chi-Chi.

Yeah, you'll, yeah, it's anyway.

And then I put all the pieces in there and put little Ziplocs, and it's like a little bag, it's actually not that big, and then traveled around with it, and it was awesome.

I was like, you'd meet people, and you'd be like, hey, didn't you, maybe you vibe with them, and be like, do you know what Catan is?

And they're either like, oh, yeah, but don't really know how to play, or nah, or Fuck yeah.

Oh my god, yeah.

Why?

Do you have it?

Do you want to play right now?

I'm like, yes.

Yes, I do.

And it's the fuck your energy that, you know, that people have for Catan.

Like, you'll probably ask every traveler, I reckon 30%, 40% would have that.

Yes, and it's fucked.

And then you'll just sit there for hours playing Catan.

Because it's like trying to find stuff to do at hostels.

You can always.

But remember with Esther, how everybody knows their local card game.

And then you're like, tell people from other localities, like, do you guys know this one?

And they're like, no, like, look, I'll learn.

Yeah.

Write down card games as well.

Because you'll always be like, oh, what was that card game?

Yeah, that so-and-so taught us there.

Now you're teaching an Austrian game to fucking check people, you know, in fucking Thailand.

I get messages all the time about, like, hey, what's well, I'm always asking you for the rules of boo-boo.

Yeah, well, that's it.

Everyone, because I'm sort of like, well, I didn't make up the game, but like, I learned this game, like, and I've never seen anyone play this game ever.

And I've like made a bunch more rules to it, and I've always played it, and it's fucking really fun.

Boo-boo, and people always message me.

Like, I'm getting messages still.

Like, really?

How do you play booboo?

Hey, what happens if you're in this situation?

You're like, oh, well, then this goes.

You are the governing body of boobs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So,

yeah.

I guess, yeah, write down the

rules to card games and play some cards at the hostels.

It's free, and it's great.

And you play with people, you play drunk, play high, whatever.

It's great.

Oh, my God.

And yeah, it's awesome.

All right, Ethan McKenzie, you have an Instagram or anything people can follow you?

You do that at all?

Yeah.

You do?

Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah.

Okay.

May as well.

You can have a look.

Pictures up there.

Yeah, yeah.

You can actually have pictures of my trip and everything.

Oh, really?

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

It's Ethan.mackenzy.

M-C-K-E-N-Z-I-E.

M-C-K-E-N-Z-I-E.

Yeah, yeah.

It's like just my sort of personal one, but I'm pretty open with it.

I like to share a lot of the cool stuff that I do.

Take great pictures, too.

If you ever go to South America, you can see some really cool stuff.

And you can, I always have the location on the post, so you can go there as well.

All right.

Buddy, this was great.

It was great to see you again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, you're welcome.

That was awesome.

It was fun.

Yeah.

Good memory.

I am back in the town.

Different day.

I'm on market day, more than the summertime.

And man, this city is alive.

Church is open.

To look in there.

Definitely got to go in there later.

But yeah, I'm back where it was.

This is brings back like a lot of memories.

This whole place was mobbed right where I am right now.

And then all there was like a parade route.

Yeah, I'll show you.

And then all the fireworks were down there.

The old lady's crying right on there.

And then.

Come over this way.

No, no, no, gracias, parole.

Talvez and like Quince Minutos.

Master.

Talvez.

Yeah, this was all mobbed.

Everybody there.

it was all fireworks.

Come over this way a little bit.

Get out there.

So, can you see over there?

Yeah?

That was all the fireworks all here.

That's where we were running through.

What's it called?

All the people dancing with the masks on.

That was all down that road.

It's all market day now, so it's like different.

But

yeah, it brings back some memories.

So guys,

thank you very much to YMH for

for

Editing and producing this podcast, Alan Caffey for editing it.

Thank you, Ethan McKenzie, for taking me on this trip and coming with me.

I know that was a wild thing to do, to be able to have the time.

A year, where were you gone?

Two years?

Yeah, thanks, Ethan, for coming with me.

Just the idea.

Guys, everywhere in Latin America, there's like a festival in a town nearby.

And you just have to take a bus to another bus to another bus and have some Mayan lady sit on your lap for a while to get over here.

That might be mass.

I'm trying to think what else I gotta tell you.

Please subscribe wherever you're watching and listening.

I got another Guatemala episode coming with Bobby Kelly at some point, unless

this place is nuts.

Make sure to get

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That's it, everybody.

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Thank you, Ethan.

Reach out.

If I find his Instagram address, I'll put it on the bottom.

Reach out and let him know what a great episode this was.

And, guys, go make your own trips.

Go find your own crazy festivals and places.

And

yeah, I don't know.

Get out there and live.

I'll see you next week.

Not Adios.

Oh, I guess it's where it church.

Yeah, Adios.

Generally, it's Oslo Luego.

Adios.