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Speaker 6 Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird.

Speaker 6 It's your fae villain, Kale Rowie.

Speaker 6 And you're listening to Barely Famous.

Speaker 6 Hello, big Teases.

Speaker 7 Hi. Hey, how are you?

Speaker 6 I'm good. How are you? And thank you for coming on the podcast.

Speaker 7 Thank you for inviting me. I'm finally glad that we got to link up this way.

Speaker 6 I'm so excited to talk to you because I live under a rock, right? Like I don't have, I get a lot of my pop culture information from you. So I'm going to need you to tell me all of the things.

Speaker 6 But before we do that, let's talk about how you got started on social media and have truly become like a resource and a source for where people get their information.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So I wasn't one of those people that was really into TikTok when it first started during COVID.
I was really against it. I was like, no, I'm not adding another app to my phone.

Speaker 7 But I was always the friend that had the pop culture updates. I was like, we have to see this movie.

Speaker 7 We have to watch this show did y'all hear what happened with britney did you hear what happened with justin like i was always that friend so they would call me tay mc and i was just like all right i'm gonna play around with it one day let me see so i started with team mom updates and i didn't know i would find like a community that really watched team mom right now and i was like okay so let me try movies and then it was like pop culture i knew i knew stuff but i was just like who cares if i say it then i was just like whatever let me try it and once i tried it, it just took off from there.

Speaker 6 I mean, you have a huge following just from talking about pop culture, but it's what, what was really, really, what hooked me was like how witty and funny you are about your commentary.

Speaker 6 So like, even if I, I don't, I can't think of a video where you like said anything like.

Speaker 6 unhinged about me but like even if you did the way that you do your commentary and like do your updates i would have loved you anyway so like even if you were like kill doesn't know how to dress i hate the way that she looks she looks like a fucking drowned rat in this episode.

Speaker 6 Like, I would not have cared because it's so fucking funny.

Speaker 7 I try not to like talk about anyone for real, for real. Like, I'm not going to talk about your way, I'm not going to really talk about your race or anything like that.

Speaker 7 I might say someone needs a middle part or something like that, but I try to remain like in boundaries, of course.

Speaker 7 And try to have a little bit of a boundary, of course, but still, you know, giving that quick witty update.

Speaker 6 No, I'm obsessed with it. And truly, I hope that you just like keep growing on your social medias because it's so fucking funny.
But so you started with Teen Mom.

Speaker 6 What was the next show that you started to kind of cover? You did movies. What movies do you remember that you first did?

Speaker 7 I did an Elvis movie. I watched the Elvis movie on HBO Max and I went in knowing nothing about Elvis.

Speaker 7 So a lot of stuff was a shock to me, like, you know, the pills, everything. So I was just like, let me check it out.
Let me talk about it.

Speaker 7 And then I saw other people didn't really know a lot about Elvis. So it was like, okay, this isn't like a weird environment where people are like, why didn't you know that?

Speaker 7 It's like, oh, I didn't know that either. Let me check out that movie.

Speaker 6 Yeah. No, and truly, people should reach out to you to do these types of reviews and commentary because people live for it.

Speaker 6 I, so you had talked to Kristen about coming on this episode and mentioned to me the Vince McMahon jockey series on Netflix, which I hadn't even heard of yet.

Speaker 6 I know who Vince McMahon is through my friend Bone. And then also because my kids are into WrestleMania and wrestling and all of that.
I'm on episode three, so you'll have to fill me in on the rest.

Speaker 6 But it is so insane because I'm pretty sure, and I don't know if you caught this, I'm sure you did.

Speaker 6 Um, I think they started this docuseries with like different intentions, and then all of the other allegations started coming out in the process of filming it. Did you see that?

Speaker 7 Yes, so originally, what a lot of people don't know is, and a lot of wrestling fans at first were against the documentary because they were like, He has all these allegations, but the documentary started filming way before the allegations came out, so that's why everyone's just talking like it's nothing.

Speaker 7 You'll hear people kind of crazy events and moments and then just saying what his real character like is behind the stage and everything like that. But it's really good, it's really intense.

Speaker 7 Um, episode six really dives into like the actual allegations in the lawsuit that he's up against right now, due to all like the sex trafficking, the abuse, and all of those things.

Speaker 7 So, you'll get to learn a little bit more about that case.

Speaker 6 Well, what's really interesting is this is all kind of coming out. I didn't know that this, this, when did this even come out?

Speaker 6 Because obviously, we are all just obsessed with this Diddy case and not about sex trafficking and similar allegations. And so, I didn't even know that they did this.

Speaker 6 I don't see people talking about this one the same way they're talking about Diddy.

Speaker 7 No, and that's why I always try to make sure I do those things because it is a conversation like on social media, especially like with black people when you see people like, oh, this Diddy incident happened and they're making all of these documentaries.

Speaker 7 Why aren't they doing the same thing for white people? And it's like, there's some out there. It's not to, you know, the popularity of a Diddy, but there are some out there.

Speaker 7 And there's this six-part documentary about Vince McMahon. And no one's talking about it the way they're talking about Diddy.

Speaker 7 So I'm like, I'm going to continue on with it because one, I like wrestling. I love wrestling.
I'm not new to Vince McMahon. I'm not new to the allegations,

Speaker 7 which sounds shocking to people who aren't used to wrestling. He did all of this in front of us.
Like his personality and whatever it is, they're bringing up in a lawsuit.

Speaker 7 Those are like things that he would do in front of us or play out in storylines even to the fact that he had a storyline where he wanted to pretend to be his uh daughter's uh when she was pregnant he wanted to say he was the father of her child and she was like no and he was like okay what about your brother and he thought it was funny yeah he thought it was funny he thought it was cool he thought it was something that the crowd would want to see and she had to say no so it's kind of like we kind of knew about these things but back in the day it was seen as okay because it was feminist man so i I want to backtrack a little bit because you just brought up the race thing.

Speaker 6 Do you think this is a race thing? Like, people are not really talking about Vince McMahon because he's white, or do you think that it's maybe the level of fame that Diddy has?

Speaker 6 Do you think, or do you think they're kind of comparable? I'm not, I know who Vince McMahon is, but I actually didn't know that he made WWF into WWE and what we know it as today.

Speaker 6 So, I didn't actually make that connection between it being like,

Speaker 6 you know, about race.

Speaker 7 I think it's kind of both

Speaker 7 in terms of the news and how much they put out about it. Because I do watch Good Morning America in the morning.
I watch The View. I watch Today a little bit.
I watch Kelly and Mark.

Speaker 7 And you'll hear about Diddy. But when the Vince McMahon thing happened, it was kind of like one on, one off.
And then it was like Vince was back. And then it was like, Vince is gone.

Speaker 7 So it wasn't consistent. So I blame that on like larger media.
But in terms of like the public not knowing, it is a popularity thing. A lot of people don't watch wrestling.

Speaker 7 A lot of people wouldn't know that there was a Vince McMahon documentary unless you like really did that research and really checked it out.

Speaker 7 I have a lot of followers, even though I talk about it all the time. It's not pushed in my timeline compared to maybe a few other things.

Speaker 7 So they're finding out about the documentary from me, like promoting it.

Speaker 7 So it is like, you know, a double-edged sword, but I do think on a larger scale, the media doesn't promote Vince McMahon and his allegations the way they do Diddy and what's going on with him.

Speaker 7 But also, again, it's a popularity thing. A lot of people don't watch wrestling.
A lot of people don't care. They think it's kiddish.

Speaker 7 They think, you know, it's for their cousins or their nephew or something like that. They don't think a grown man or a grown woman is watching wrestling.
Right.

Speaker 6 No, I mean, what's really interesting is, I, I, like I said earlier, I only know of wrestling because of my friend Bone and my kids.

Speaker 6 But when I actually physically went to WrestleMania this year in 2024, I was blown away by the fan base of WWE.

Speaker 6 I mean, we're talking all walks of life, every type of person from the businessman executive at the top of freaking corporate ladder to just

Speaker 6 everyday people that you might see at school. You might see your, you know, their grandparents.
And the fan base that WWE has,

Speaker 6 I was shook. I like could not understand it.

Speaker 6 And then to watch the storylines kind of play out, which my kids and Bone have told me, like, the storyline, it's like sort of like professional sports and acting collide.

Speaker 6 Like it's really, really crazy. And so he,

Speaker 6 where I'm at in the docuseries, is so he takes over WWF, turns it into what we know WWE is today.

Speaker 6 And from there, he is sort of the originator, in my opinion, what I know so far, of really tapping in and doing cross-promotion between brands, celebrities, all kinds of things to tap into each other's audiences, which is like mutually beneficial for all types of

Speaker 6 or public figures, I guess we could call them. And so he aided and abetted in a pedophile ring, in a pedophile ring, essentially.
People were turning blind knives to that. He was alleged,

Speaker 6 he

Speaker 6 alleged rape, I guess, sex trafficking,

Speaker 6 child sexual abuse, illegal distribution of steroids.

Speaker 6 He settled for a multi-million dollar lawsuit against him,

Speaker 6 Reader Chatterman, for

Speaker 6 sexual assault, which is like, I would have never known any of this if it wasn't for you.

Speaker 7 Now, some of this I knew because my cousin, I didn't have any siblings, but I had a cousin who watched wrestling and he would give me all of his DVDs.

Speaker 7 So a lot of this stuff is already documented and put out there. There is a, I think it's called Mr.
McMahon. It's like a three-disc DVD.

Speaker 7 And that's where I learned that he wanted to even have, you know, that storyline with Stephanie. And a lot of the lawsuits, that's where I learned about them.

Speaker 7 But this documentary does a deeper detail into a lot of those lawsuits. Like, I didn't know Detective Lunch from Law and Order SBU was in a chokehold with Hulk Hogan and, you know, busting his head.

Speaker 7 I didn't know those things. So it does a deeper dive.
But I definitely think this documentary is important.

Speaker 7 And I'm glad it's six parts because making it an hour, making it two hours, they wouldn't have been able to really dig and give that deeper detail behind a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 6 Well, what I think people don't realize,

Speaker 6 especially in pop culture, public figures, hip-hop, reality TV, I don't think that any of us truly knew what WWE is worth, right? Like, that's an almost $9 billion company as of last year.

Speaker 7 And it's only getting bigger because they have people like Roman Reigns.

Speaker 7 Like, I've seen interviews with John Cena where he talks about, you know, the actual financial side of it and how Roman Reigns is a big pool.

Speaker 7 And I will say there's times where, like, I don't watch and then I'll be like, okay, Royal Rumble's coming up. Mania season's coming up.
I want to go to Mania.

Speaker 7 So let me hurry up and get back into the season. But if I hear Roman Reigns is going to be there, boom, I'm going to watch because I want to see where the story goes.
So I do agree to that.

Speaker 7 But it is a million dollar, billion-dollar company. And Vince McMahon did do an amazing job, you know, making it to what it is.
But luckily,

Speaker 7 you know, not luckily, those things happen because, you know, sorry to those victims, but luckily it's coming out because now we can, we're able to get him out the way for many things.

Speaker 7 And now the company is thriving. And it isn't any of those weird things that used to take place back in the day.
For sure.

Speaker 6 No, I definitely think that the victims should all have, be able to tell their stories if they want to and not hide on, you know, behind, you know, these big names, because I think Hush Money is crazy.

Speaker 6 Didn't he pay somebody like Hush Money to

Speaker 6 keep

Speaker 6 some things quiet?

Speaker 7 Yes, he pays.

Speaker 7 And I'm really glad that people like Tony Atlas were speaking in a documentary when they asked questions like, why did you guys say things about this? Why didn't you do this?

Speaker 7 He was like, we'll get fired. You can say it, but he would have fired us.
It was a power play. Um, this McMahon was in charge, and everybody knew he was in charge.

Speaker 7 So, I feel like things like that was really important to say because people need to know what the culture was like then.

Speaker 7 And, you know, a little bit of now before people started outing people, um, so that they can understand why people didn't say anything.

Speaker 7 People were probably trying to say things, but they got fired, they got paid off, they disappeared, you know, things happen when people tried to speak up.

Speaker 7 So, I was glad that people like Tony Atlas actually told, you know, the full truth.

Speaker 6 This is literally the exact, almost the exact same thing that we're seeing with Diddy, but Vince McMahon, which is insane. And both of them are happening at the same time.
So do we know? Yep.

Speaker 6 I know you finished the document, the docu series. So do we know when the full trial is, or has it already happened for Vince?

Speaker 7 No, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, it was paused. The investigation was paused.
I do remember hearing that his house was

Speaker 7 raided at one point,

Speaker 7 but I don't think there's a trial going on. But also, I think that's a lot of like who he knows and his connections as well.
And they, you know, he's old.

Speaker 7 So his investigation might be much longer than what I think a Diddy's case is going to be.

Speaker 6 Okay. So this one says on sporting news, I'm on Google.
Like I said, I didn't get to finish the documentary. I'm going to finish it because, like I said, I didn't know anything about this.

Speaker 6 I think a lot of this right now, it says there was, there's a steroid trial as of two days ago.

Speaker 6 This is inside the steroids trial so i don't think that there are i don't think they're going to trial for like the sex trafficking or any of that stuff right now from variety in may it says that the sexual assault lawsuit pause pending ongoing doj investigation so

Speaker 7 i don't know if there's been an update since then but i do remember that there was like you know a lot of news around them searching paperwork and looking into his finances to see, you know, other things that have taken place.

Speaker 7 All crazy things.

Speaker 7 Like when you think about how much money someone can have to pay someone off, and you have to search through their finances to see if they transferred a million dollars to someone, like all crazy things.

Speaker 6 It's crazy what money and power can do and like what, how people will act. Because between Vince McMahon and Diddy, I don't even know.

Speaker 6 I'm so fascinated by the Ciddy case and now the Vince McMahon stuff because I can't understand the amount of people that had to have been and are still involved in both cases that keep their mouths mouths shut as long as they have.

Speaker 6 Like, I can't wrap my head around that. And I think that's why I have such a fascination with it is like,

Speaker 6 yeah, there was like videotapes and stuff, but like I can't wrap my head around that many people being quiet.

Speaker 7 See, I think it's much bigger than everybody even thinks because I personally remember there was a time when Diddy was like at multiple award shows. He got the key to the city.
And I made a video.

Speaker 7 I was like, what is going on? Are we getting the Diddy documentary? Like, what's going on?

Speaker 7 I personally feel like he knew like was about to hit the fan so he was like let me get all of this out let me get all these awards and accolades and get the key to the city and everybody love me now because might hit the fan but for outsiders i think even how they're saying like search r b artists i think it's bigger i think it's gonna outpeople sexuality i think it's gonna outpeople you know medical history i think this is gonna be much bigger so i feel like people are being quiet because like their personal lives, even if they didn't partake or, you know, didn't harm or hurt anyone, I think their personal lives are about to be ruined by all of this.

Speaker 6 Just from keeping their mouths shut? Or you mean, like, you mean people involved keeping their mouths shut? It'll still ruin them. You mean?

Speaker 7 I think they're keeping their mouth shut because it is like, like I said, grander than this. Like, I think it's going to out some people for their sexuality.
Some people that

Speaker 7 males, especially, like, we're going to find out there are some of our favorite singers that are intimate. And that is going to hurt their personal lives because maybe their families don't know.

Speaker 7 Maybe, you know, that's not their brand. However, it is, that's going to harm them, I believe.

Speaker 7 And then I believe, like, just because of the sexual acts and what we're hearing, there's some medical stuff that might get out in them. Maybe someone has a certain STD or something like that.

Speaker 7 Those things are going to come to light. And I feel like people are being quiet because once they open their mouths, that makes them a target.

Speaker 7 And then they might not have harmed anyone, but maybe something happened to them, or maybe they have like, you know, personal secrets that will come out because of this.

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Speaker 6 Well, so here's my question because I am a little bit confused, specifically about Diddy, not Vince, but

Speaker 6 for the Vince,

Speaker 6 for the Diddy stuff, what exactly is, what is the crime, right?

Speaker 6 Like, if, for example, allegedly we hear that Diddy and Meek Mill had relations or whatever the case was there, or, you know, celebrities doing this with other celebrities, that all would be consensual, right?

Speaker 6 Like, that was, I, they consented.

Speaker 7 I believe it is what ACNA's done because I know, like, in college, I had to do the consensus, the um, consent test.

Speaker 7 So, if one person's drunk, you're not supposed to have sex because they can't technically consent because they're under the influence. And if it, then that's considered rape.

Speaker 7 So, I think if they were under the influence, and then if, like, you know, Mickeys or anything were put into them and they were unaware of it, that you know,

Speaker 7 it resulted in rape or some type of assault, then I believe that is the crime. Um, I believe, you know, the drugs, the sex trafficking, he did have some sex workers that were a part of things.

Speaker 7 They do have tapes of those, um, the physical abuse that took place for the girls that were there, um, as well as some other things.

Speaker 7 I think the consensual things with the celebrities and stuff, that's fine, unless they were coerced into doing those things

Speaker 7 some type of way. But I think that biggest thing is going to be like the drugs that were involved.
Okay.

Speaker 6 And so, same for like the sex workers. So, the sex workers were possibly drugged and kept against their will, and also potentially physically abused.
Is that kind of like the gist of it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I believe that's also.

Speaker 7 And then, I know, for like the Cassie incident, for example, I did read like he would have her have sex with a sex worker while he watched and he would film it, and everyone was on drugs.

Speaker 7 So, once drugs come into play, I believe, don't quote me, I believe that's when consensual sex is out the door.

Speaker 7 Um, so she wouldn't have been able to consent to having sex with a sex worker and it being filmed.

Speaker 7 Diddy would probably have been the only maybe sober person in the room, but you know, they say he was on drugs too. We don't know these people, though.
This is not factual.

Speaker 6 This is all alleged. All of it is alleged.
I did go back on TikTok and I saw this video where there's like a song, Justin Bieber sang a chorus chorus that was like, um,

Speaker 6 something about I at a ditty party, I lost myself at a ditty party or something like that. And that's like the whole hook of the song.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And like, even Justin Bieber, for example, I allegedly, if like the things that they're saying about him is true, like, I feel like that is a bigger thing.
Like, he would be a victim in that.

Speaker 7 And then he would have to talk forcefully. to the public, which is something on a normal basis someone wouldn't have to do.

Speaker 7 And then things about sexuality would come out and medical records and stuff so i feel like that's like a person that if he was involved we don't know but if he was involved i feel like he's being quiet to protect himself because being loud and saying i'm against diddy would put a camera on him and i feel like that would out maybe some things that he doesn't want outed so but did you hear that they allegedly of course um questioned

Speaker 6 Kim Kardashian and that Usher and Jay-Z are also very heavily involved in all of this?

Speaker 7 Not kiddie cakes. I mean, I can see her at the party.

Speaker 7 There are old episodes where Chloe says she was at the party and she dated French Mob Tana for a little bit as well, who is always at the Diddy party.

Speaker 7 So, you know, they probably mixed and mingled a little bit, but not kiddie cakes. Oh, girl.
Damn.

Speaker 6 Well, what sucks about all of this is like the celebrities that may have been to Diddy parties that didn't participate or even really know the true depths of like what was going on, it's kind of like fucking them up.

Speaker 6 Like, I'm a big Kim K fan. I love the Kardashians.

Speaker 6 If they were not, in fact, in the know or a participant, a willing participant of any of this, that's really sad because I'm sure that all of this will probably affect their fan bases.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and also, I saw like a clip where Denzel Washington was telling like the younger actors, like, lead a party before the devil comes.

Speaker 7 And it wasn't, you know, pertaining to Diddy particularly, but just saying, Lead a party before, you know, things get crazy.

Speaker 7 So maybe they even heard things were crazy and they left, but it's just like, we saw that picture of you at that party. And it's like, I went home before the lights even got turned off, guys.

Speaker 6 I know, I saw Post Malone in like a video. It was like a montage.
And I was like, oh, no, don't do that to Posty. Like, don't do that to Posty.

Speaker 6 Don't do it. I want to wait until it all comes out before I change my

Speaker 6 following and like what I, who I follow, because like I don't want to prematurely unfollow someone that actually didn't know or like wasn't a part of any of this.

Speaker 7 No one else has been arrested or charged with anything. So right now, my only unfollow has been Diddy.

Speaker 6 Have you seen the allegations against Jay-Z? And do you think that he was part of all of this? And do you think that Diddy will snitch on Jay-Z?

Speaker 7 I had this conversation on live yesterday. And I don't think Jay-Z is going to be accused of the things that people want or think that he's going to be accused of.

Speaker 7 I do think, you know, the groomy aspect of it all is what's, you know, hiding the conversation.

Speaker 7 But for me, it's like, I understand it, but like a lot of people's grandparents, like generations have been born off of that.

Speaker 7 Like, we were having this conversation, like, that was the norm back in the day. Yes, it's frowned upon.
Yes, we should talk about it. Yes, we should teach kids.
Hey, don't do this.

Speaker 7 But like, grandma was 17 getting married to grandpa, who was 24. And that is how your family treat started.
So they were doing what was the norm. Hopefully they know it was wrong now.

Speaker 7 But to the extent people think that Jay-Z is going to get in trouble, I don't.

Speaker 7 I think it's it's more of like that grooming conversation of the ages of Aaliyah, Foxy Brown, Beyonce, and how old he was when he was pursuing them. I think that's the conversation.

Speaker 7 I don't think it's him going to jail for, you know, dating-related things.

Speaker 6 And that's a really good, that's a really good point.

Speaker 6 I also, I didn't know that there was like a grooming aspect of it, but to your point about the generational, um, you know, that's how grandma and grandpa started your family tree.

Speaker 6 I also had that conversation with Jodi Pico on this podcast because she wrote a book by any other name.

Speaker 6 And that was something that I had brought up to her an aspect that was has been going on since well before the 1500s was like very older very old men going after very small chill like children like 13 year olds and even at that time like that was kind of what was happening and that's how family family tree started um but i i agree when you know better you do better and i think that that is a bigger conversation that you know maybe maybe will be addressed but i i agree with you i don't think that jay-z is going to go down the same way that diddy is going to go down because i think we would have heard about it by now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I feel like he's in the NFL. Like, that would have been a big target way before Diddy, in my personal opinion.
But I could be wrong, but I don't think he is going down for any of those things.

Speaker 7 Like I said, I think the conversation would be grooming and the age difference between the women that he's dated and that he's currently married to.

Speaker 7 But other than that, I don't think it's going to get that deep.

Speaker 6 I have not had a chance to watch The Secret Lives of Mormon wives. So, can you please tell me about this and give me

Speaker 6 the entire rundown of the soft swinging and the swinging and all of the things? Because I knew who these women were from Mom Talk.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 I think her name was Taylor, right? Like the face of the show and like of Mom Talk. This ring Taylor.

Speaker 6 Yep. Okay, so I know who she is and I very vaguely know like the other cast members, but like, Run it down for me.

Speaker 7 Okay, I'm not going to pretend like I know all of these girls because they all look alike. If I'm going to be 100% honest to you, some just stand out a little bit more than others.

Speaker 7 Taylor, of course, she's the star of the show.

Speaker 6 They have money because of Taylor.

Speaker 7 They all need to thank Taylor.

Speaker 7 And then you have Whitney, who wishes she was the star of the show and can't be the star of the show to save her life. And her husband, who was on Tinder, but it was rumored that it was Grinder.

Speaker 7 And they both changed their hair the whole show. Yes, it's so messy.
Like when I said Tinder, because that's what the show said, everybody was in my comments like, grinder, girl, grinder.

Speaker 7 And they were like that. No, it wasn't Tinder.
I was like, oh,

Speaker 7 y'all know something? I don't know. And they were like, yeah, there's this whole conversation.
Like, you need to look. And I was like, oh, well, they said Tinder on the show.

Speaker 7 So I'm going to go with Tinder. But her husband and her have their whole problem.
And she tried to blame everything that's going on on Taylor.

Speaker 7 And Taylor's like, I'm about to go be with my toxic boyfriend, had his baby. After I told him I didn't really want to have this baby with him, that I really want to have this baby with him.

Speaker 7 And I asked him if he wanted to be with me, and he said, Yeah, but like, he makes my life hell.

Speaker 7 But I really don't want to hang with these girls, so I'm going to just be with my man and figure this out. Like, it's so chaotic.

Speaker 7 And then, like, there's this girl, Macy, she has a birthday, and all of them go on her trip and just start shit. Like, why are y'all arguing on my birthday trip?

Speaker 7 Like, they bring a box and they're like, Let's do the truth box. And they all write notes to write questions that they want to ask all the girls.

Speaker 7 And, like, all hell breaks loose at my birthday trip like what are we doing

Speaker 6 this sounds like teen mom but like the older version like an older um like mom 30s 40s version of teen mom yes that's what i got out of it yes it's like a lot of drama it's like

Speaker 7 and then there's like the first episode taylor gets arrested she's like pregnant she just got a divorce i believe she has two kids already she's with this man that nobody agrees with she gets arrested and then like they fast forward the next episode she unfortunately had a miscarriage but they fast forward she's pregnant again her mom's like you're moving this man in and y'all not married like it's so

Speaker 7 it's so much and then like are they are they mormon still or they're like ex-mormon no they're mormon they're practicing mormon like i know there's like two or three that are like more mormon than everyone else and like they really like there was like a baptism episode like they're mormon but like i don't i know taylor's mom was like, are you going to go to the church one day to talk about like how her life was going and how she was drinking and everything?

Speaker 7 She was like, no. No.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 she's morbid.

Speaker 7 I don't know. I'm so.
And also, I'm not, also, I'm not going to lie. I haven't finished the show because all of this other stuff has come out and all of these other shows.
So I think I'm like two.

Speaker 7 or three episodes behind. I'm at the party episode, which I believe is like episode four or five.

Speaker 7 This is after the trip when they mess up Macy's birthday trip. So I'm at that episode.
So I still have to finish, but it's messy. It's very messy.
And like,

Speaker 7 they're like, we have to save mom talk. Mom talk is not going to survive.
And it's just like,

Speaker 6 so dramatic.

Speaker 6 I saw that it was number one on like Hulu and I was like, wow, this is. I mean, that's big to be.
I mean, essentially, they had to have been found on TikTok, right?

Speaker 6 Like, that had to be where they got found.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they were found because of Taylor outing the whole swinger thing and exposing mom talk and having that conversation. So, that's how they were discovered.

Speaker 7 And I do know that, like, there's some behind-the-scenes stuff. Um, that I'm sure there's some other creators that can break it down for you.

Speaker 7 Um, that Taylor wasn't originally going to do the show, and they were like, We're not doing the show without Taylor.

Speaker 7 So, like, she's the star of the show, even though she doesn't really want to be the star of the show. Some episodes, like, that's the star of the show.

Speaker 6 Okay, and the soft swinging is like like

Speaker 6 somebody else's, like, she was friends with someone else's boyfriend, or like, what was going on?

Speaker 7 So, how I got it was: her husband was open to introducing other people into their relationship, and she was like, Okay.

Speaker 7 And she ended up getting with the man that she was swinging with and divorced her husband. So, they were having like little swinger parties.
Everyone that's on the show was not involved in it.

Speaker 7 It was like a tailor and like a few people thing.

Speaker 7 But it was like she said everyone. So, the outside audience assumed it was like the entire group.

Speaker 6 Wow. Okay.
So that's a lot. I'm going to watch it.
I just, so many shows and like things have been happening that I haven't gotten a chance to see it. And I kind of knew who they were.

Speaker 6 So I will get to it. But what is your favorite show to cover? Scripted, unscripted? And like what one specifically? And what can you tell me? Because I know nothing.

Speaker 7 Because look, let me tell you, I typed it out. So right now.
I'm watching This Is Us. Have you ever watched This Is Us?

Speaker 6 I started it. I think I watched two episodes so far.

Speaker 7 Okay, get ready to cry, girl. Like,

Speaker 7 get ready to cry. Like, it's such a good show.
I don't want to tell you, but if you've never watched This Is Us, it does a good job of showing why certain people are the way they are.

Speaker 7 They do a good job of showing how they were as kids and how they were parented, and then how certain events in their lives affect them when they were teenagers.

Speaker 7 So, why they make certain decisions and why they parent the way they do as adults. Um, it's about this mom, Mandy Morris, character.
She has triplets, one sadly passes away.

Speaker 7 Randall, who is their African-American son, he gets adopted because he was dropped off at the hospital the same day. And the dad's like, we came in here expecting three.

Speaker 7 We got three cribs at the crib. Let's take this baby home and raise it as our own.
So you see the dynamic and how having an adopted child plays into it, raised how.

Speaker 7 you know, having three kids plays into it and how the mom was able to parent which kid which way.

Speaker 7 Some stuff happens. I'm not going to tell you what happens, but some stuff happens with a crock pot ruining their lives.
And

Speaker 7 you see how that whole thing messes up their lives as well.

Speaker 7 And how they ended up, you know, if it's someone getting therapy or, you know, wanting to adopt a child later on, how those events in their lives bring in there.

Speaker 6 Okay, so that's a good show. I'm going to write these down.
Hold on, let me get my little sticky note. So I need to continue.
pushing along on this is us

Speaker 6 and then we're going to do secret work

Speaker 7 it's good because Thanksgiving is coming up. This is like a very in-your-bed, warm, get-your-blanket, get your tea show.
Like, you're gonna cry. You're gonna cry.
This is made for crying.

Speaker 7 Okay, get that out.

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Speaker 7 Made for crying.

Speaker 6 Okay, what else? Tell me, have you kept up with?

Speaker 6 Do you watch Selling Sunset at all?

Speaker 7 No, okay. So I like to let people know very early.
Like, I am like a reality show girly, but I have my limits. It has to have a storyline, people I can follow.

Speaker 7 I do like home shows, I will say that, but I kind of like Property Brothers, more of like HGTV type of vibes.

Speaker 7 I'm getting ready for the SNL 50th anniversary, which takes place tomorrow. You can watch that on Peacock or NBC.
I love SNL.

Speaker 7 Will Farrell just released a documentary with his best friend who used to be a writer on SNL. It's on Netflix right now.
It's called Will and Harper. They're going on a road trip.

Speaker 7 Harper just transitioned into being a woman, and it's just about them going on a road trip and Will asking questions.

Speaker 7 Harper originally would go on road trips, and this is the first time she's gone on a road trip as a woman and trying to figure out how that is going to be for her. So it's really good so far.

Speaker 7 And Will Farrell's asking questions, very comfortable, and just trying to figure out how to ask certain questions. So it's very informative so far from where I'm at.

Speaker 7 But I think they did a really good job releasing it before the SNL 50th.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and I will say, as someone who's just like, I'm supportive, you know, I want you to do you. I want you to feel safe around me.
I want you to feel protective. Some stuff I don't know.

Speaker 7 So this is an educational tool that they're riding around and they're having this conversation.

Speaker 6 No, for sure.

Speaker 6 Your freaking commentary on the red carpet looks, I wrote down in my notes for you. I literally said, I haven't had a, I didn't get a chance to watch the amaze.

Speaker 6 Obviously, this was when we were the original episode that you and I were supposed to record. Um, the commentary on your the looks had me cackling.

Speaker 7 That's always my goal when I'm fixing red carpets. You know, make sure you feel like you're there.
Make sure you feel like you got the information that you need.

Speaker 7 Like, we're really reporting we're very much giving respect to joan joan sometimes gets a day pass from hell and she gets to come up and we get to have conversation talk about these people outfits but you know it's every now and then it's not every day

Speaker 6 did you see um isaac my son isaac he did a whole

Speaker 6 video on my red carpet looks and was like just

Speaker 6 critiquing every single look at him

Speaker 7 yeah i'll send it to you hold on i'll send it to you i was copying

Speaker 7 I've seen the updates that you've done about like his ASL and all of those. So I saw the one.
Did he do you and Joe in a parking lot? Was that the one?

Speaker 6 He did the sign language one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he also did one of my red carpet.

Speaker 6 And I was just like, you know what? You didn't have to rip me a new one the way that you did, truly. So let me, I'm trying to find it so I can send it to you.
I'm like, I don't, we're.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 6 Hey, guys, today we are looking at my mom's past red carpet. Okay, I'm sending this to you on Instagram.

Speaker 6 You don't have to watch it right now if you don't want to, but I'm cracking up because I'm like, you guys have the same sort of like you're so funny, but like he also has like those just like really witty things to say.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I used to,

Speaker 7 I used to watch red carpet. So it's just like, I know it's a different time, but I just feel like when Joan was doing it, it was so fun.

Speaker 7 Like, I am not one of those people that wants to know like how much your dress costs. I kind of want to know who made it, but I don't.

Speaker 7 Like, I like Joan's honesty of being like, what pill pale do you have on? Like, no, that's not cute. This is not what you should have worn.
Like, I miss that side of things.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So, you know,

Speaker 7 my page is really just, you know, a lighthearted, you know, quick way to go over the red carpet, but also, you know, give respect to Joan and how she was very honest about what people were wearing.

Speaker 6 So it's, it's giving like constructive criticism with some wit, not necessarily a troll. You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like yours is like funny.

Speaker 6 Like I I said, if you troll like trolled me about what I was wearing, I would laugh and I'd be like, okay, I'm actually going to take a mental note for the next time, but I don't feel trolled.

Speaker 6 You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I feel like there's a respectful way of doing things. There's definitely like, you don't have to go hard on someone.
You don't have to go in on someone, you know, in a negative way.

Speaker 7 You can just be like, that dress is ugly. Like, girl, where'd you get that dress? And say in a certain way and go on about your day.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It's, it's sort of like what we do in group chats or what we should be doing in group chats.

Speaker 6 Like we could just like make a quick, funny, witty comment and then just keep it moving and go on to the next thing.

Speaker 6 But wait, I also wrote down because you follow Teen Mom, you follow all the tea about everybody, right? I love Ashley Jones. I've never had an issue with her, but what is the tea?

Speaker 6 Because is she on the show or is she not on the show? I have that in my notes.

Speaker 7 She's on the show. I did see her say that she wasn't going to be in all the episodes last season because some things happened with her far.
So she wasn't in all of them.

Speaker 7 She did announce that on her social that she was only going to to be in three episodes because that was a big thing. Everyone was like, Where the hell is Ashley? Like, I'm watching this for Ashley.

Speaker 7 And I think you can kind of tell, at least as an outsider, you would probably know more.

Speaker 7 From the filming, you can tell like they were trying to figure out how to put more in it without having Ashley and without having certain stories on people. And it just felt like it didn't feel,

Speaker 7 I don't know, it didn't like, I didn't like this season. I wasn't a fan.
I feel like it was missing a lot. I feel like it was a lot of filler episodes.
I feel like there's a lot of girls on the show

Speaker 7 and they're not diving into everybody properly. So it just wasn't as enjoyable.
But for Ashley and Barr, they're getting a divorce unless the divorce is finalized.

Speaker 7 Barr is still in prison, I believe, awaiting trial, if I'm not mistaken. Some tapes were released.
And on the last episode, they did do

Speaker 7 a mop of what happened.

Speaker 7 Ashley did like, you know, the behind the scenes telling and detailing that she went out on a date what happened when bar called him driving down there breaking into her house what happened when the police arrived they did play the tapes of her mom calling 911 yeah they did play the tapes of her mom calling 911 so you know they did do a little bit of a detail on that on the last episode just through the mock-up um and then ashley did say in the comments like you know this is a reenactment this is not you know they there's no cameras were there when barr you know came to my home i did a reenactment for the show so i can discuss with you guys what happened wow well i hope that she's okay because that's awful like that's horrible yeah so that was a big thing and honestly i don't know what else is going to happen after that um i'm not sure if on social media she said anything i believe she tweeted maybe before the last episode where should the next team mom trip be so in my head she's on the show um i know at least on my page we make it pretty known that she is a favorite just because she's very relatable for a lot of us even though i don't have kids just like her aspirations to be a nurse and all of the things that she's doing, very relatable.

Speaker 7 So she is very liked. So I hope she's on the show.

Speaker 7 And me personally, I kind of hope they bring back some of the teen moms out there pregnant girls and add them because I feel like they have a story too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't know. I haven't really kept up with it too much.
I still follow Ashley on socials.

Speaker 6 For some reason, and I don't know if your social media is the same way, but like I don't ever see the people that I follow.

Speaker 6 Like the people I follow on TikTok and Instagram specifically never show up on my timeline.

Speaker 6 And so it's always I hear like little pieces and bits of information from not just Ashley from Teen Mom, but just all the creators that I follow.

Speaker 6 And it's kind of annoying because I'm like, obviously, I follow them because I want to see more of their content and then it doesn't show up on my timeline.

Speaker 6 So I was like, oh, I'll just ask, I'll just ask my girl when she comes on the podcast, you know, what's going on with her. But I hope that she's okay.

Speaker 6 I actually, that makes me want to reach out to her and make sure that she's good. Because, like I said, I've, I, I've never really loved, you know, the bad rap that Ashley got on the show.

Speaker 7 I, again, didn't really know what the the big deal like people were would say that she was always the problem and I never for me I never saw that like I never saw Ashley being I personally think that's why she was relatable for me because she was really honest at least to like the viewers of the show like these are my co-workers I don't know them outside the show so you're not going to see me be lovey-dubby with them you're not going to see me like oh girl hanging giving them hugs I was like that's so real because like this is a show y'all don't live in the same state I'm sure y'all hang out occasionally go to you know events or whatever but these aren't your girlfriends these aren't the girls that's in your group chat that you're telling all your business to so the relationship that she was portraying to me seems so real because everyone else is like oh my god girl hey i'm sure you guys probably have those relationships but she's being honest like i'm i'm not their friend um at work

Speaker 6 right

Speaker 6 At least it's what's so interesting about that too is like for a long time, that's how the show, that's how it was. It was like, are we friends? Are we just co-workers?

Speaker 6 And then some people really do develop actual friendships where they're like, Leah and I were, I was, I would consider Leah to have been one of my best friends for a long time.

Speaker 6 Like, we were going on vacations together. I visited her and, you know, she came to my kids' birthday parties here in Delaware.
I went to West Virginia to see her and Jeremy and like also just her.

Speaker 6 Like, I mean, we knew each other's friends. And so, like, I do think that some people built like stronger actual friendships.
But I think overall, I would agree with you, like,

Speaker 6 and agree with Ashley as well. Just like a lot of them are just co-workers, really, or just acquaintances.
So, I do, I do also agree with that.

Speaker 6 But I also, I don't know, I'm not super close with any of them. I talk to Kate and Ty sometimes, which, you know, I have a good relationship with them.

Speaker 6 I talk to Chelsea sometimes, and, you know, keep up with Ashley on social media. But yeah, I would agree with that.
Like, a lot of them are, they are just acquaintances. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And I think that makes it more relatable because, like, when I go to work, no, I'm not on TV, but when I go to work, these are my acquaintances.

Speaker 7 Some people maybe I might hang out with and get a drink after work. But for the most part, like, bye, I'm clocking off.
Y'all don't know me outside of this place. So I'll catch y'all later.

Speaker 6 You're like, I actually don't want a friendship outside of work because I see enough of you motherfuckers in the building. Like, no, thank you.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like, I'm good. Like, I don't need to do no team building exercises.
Like, I'm, I'm at work. I'm plotting.

Speaker 7 Bye.

Speaker 6 Co-worker relationships are so funny because then there's also times, at least in my own personal life, where I'm like, okay, I might hang out with them once or twice outside of like whatever working relationship we have.

Speaker 6 And I'm like, wow, like I actually could see us being friends, but then it quickly goes back to just a work friendship relationship. It's really weird.
It's like phases.

Speaker 6 I think, you know, like for Lindsay and I have coffee combos, right? And we didn't know each other when we signed those contracts. And now I've, and we've gone through periods of time where we like.

Speaker 6 business partners and then we were like sisters and then we would go back like but now i would say like for this last couple years, like we've been really, really good.

Speaker 6 And like we're, we're friends, we're coworkers, we're all the things. And so, but I think that's a very unique dynamic that not everybody can have or not everybody wants.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And I'll say like, cause I've worked in different areas now.
Like my followers know I used to work at AMC and then I did corporate for a little bit.

Speaker 7 If you're working in a customer service job, those are the people that you're going to be friends with.

Speaker 7 longer than someone in corporate, if I have to be 100% honest, because like those are the people you are in the trenches with.

Speaker 7 Like they got bag no matter what so go get a drink with them those are the people that are probably going to be more so your friends uh than somebody you meet in the office like that's not who i'm telling my business to i'll tell my business to the girl that's a cashier like let's talk girl while we standing here for eight hours no facts that's like um gray's anatomy that type of like closeness i love gray's anatomy

Speaker 7 Well, I know. I wrote it down and I went.

Speaker 6 I went on your page and I was like, oh, she's, she's going to Grey's Anatomy. We have to talk about it because I'm a Grey's Anatomy girly and I was so late to Grey's Anatomy.

Speaker 6 Like, I started Grey's Anatomy, I think, when I was pregnant, either with Rio or the twins, one of them, and obsessed with Grey's anatomy.

Speaker 6 Like, my kids will even be like, oh, are you going to put on your doctor's show? Like,

Speaker 6 are you going to put on your doctor's show? Oh, that's mom's doctor show. Like, I'm obsessed with Grey's Anatomy.

Speaker 7 I'm so down bad. I started it.
I probably shouldn't have started like as young as I was, but I started it when it started. Like I was a kid watching ABC Thursday.

Speaker 7 So I have been in locked in for a while. And I got my best friend when she was pregnant with my goddaughter.
I got her to watch it as well. So now she's locked in.

Speaker 7 And it's funny because like we have conversations like Mira Christina, like, which sometimes be like, oh, she's not going to talk about it right now. She'll talk about it later.

Speaker 7 I know when she'll talk about it. It's cool.
Still call me when it's time. So it's so relatable.
And now that I'm older, Derek and Mira were not like what I thought they were. That was not romantic.

Speaker 7 He had to die. And for those that don't know, he had to die in order for her to shine.

Speaker 7 Owen Hutch should not still be alive. And Teddy should not still be alive.

Speaker 7 And I stand on that.

Speaker 6 What are your thoughts on Christina? Because I love Christina and I just wish that she stayed on the show for so much longer.

Speaker 7 I definitely feel like a character like Christina was needed because, again, I don't have kids and my focus is my career. So seeing someone like Christina and being like, no, I'm not having kids.

Speaker 7 I'm not having kids. I'm going to be a doctor.
This is my focus.

Speaker 7 When we have a lot of people, I do think it's positive to have like those like Mayor's character who wants to be a mom and can balance and everything like that. That's very commendable.

Speaker 7 But I think it's cool that we had a Christina that was like, this is where my focus is. A man is not above my work.
A man is not above me. You're not a better doctor than me.

Speaker 7 Like, I feel like Christina was very important and I really wish she could come back.

Speaker 6 I mean, I'm just sad that it's like officially, Meredith is officially done.

Speaker 7 I don't think she's done. I didn't watch the last seasons.
I'm not going to lie. I cried like a baby the last episode.

Speaker 7 when they said that this was her last season. I've seen little snippets of her coming back, and it's just not the same to me.
Also, the acting isn't the same.

Speaker 7 And like, I don't like the new cameras. I'm very particular about grades.
Like, I hold it close to my heart. I don't like the cameras.
I don't like that it looks like it's a set.

Speaker 7 It used to look like a hospital. And I really miss the vibe of it looking like a hospital.
But I need to catch up so I can watch the current season.

Speaker 7 But I just feel like announcing that Mira wasn't going to be on the show anymore and then putting her in bits and pieces, they should have just tapped a secret and let us watch it because it turned me off.

Speaker 7 Cause I was like, what am I watching then? Like, I don't want to see that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I haven't watched the newest episodes. I just had seen that she said that she was done, and I was so sad because I love, I just love Grace Anatomy.
And I don't know, I

Speaker 6 don't love change. I don't like when they switch things up, and it's not what it used to be.
I hate it all.

Speaker 7 I hate it. Same, same.
Like the whole camera thing, Bailey, her personality, when they, whenever they changed Bailey's personality, it just started to piss me off. I didn't like anything about it.

Speaker 7 I was just over it.

Speaker 7 And still to this day, I'm standing firm. I am president of the I Hate Owen Hunt band club.
I really feel like, why is he still alive after all of these things that everyone else has gone through?

Speaker 7 Owen Hunt should not still be there.

Speaker 6 You know what's so funny is like, and this is no shade to his, I don't even know who he is in real, like what his name is in real life. I only know him as Owen Hunt.

Speaker 6 And I'm wondering if that's why he's still on Greys because he's so typecasted. I saw his little cameo that he made in It Ends With Us, and I only knew him as Owen Hunt.

Speaker 7 And I feel that way for a lot of actors and actresses when they're like, Oh, I'm gonna leave this big show, and I'm gonna go do X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 6 And then you never see them.

Speaker 7 I'm like, You're gonna just stay on the show. Like, we really miss you.
Like, come back.

Speaker 6 No, like, like, um,

Speaker 6 Jackson, Jackson Avery,

Speaker 7 yes, Jackson. He went to go do Broadway, and then he

Speaker 7 owes a lot in child support.

Speaker 7 He needs to be on Gray's Anatomy. I'm pretty sure he owes a lot in Child Sport.

Speaker 7 And then the dude that played Alex, he left. And I was like,

Speaker 7 why are you leaving? Like, where are you going? Come back. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think he said he wanted to do something different. And it's like, what are you doing different? Like, just come back.

Speaker 6 It's Grey's Anatomy. Like, you should be riding the Gray's Anatomy

Speaker 6 train as far as it'll fucking go.

Speaker 7 Get that money. Unless they kill you off.
Go get that budget.

Speaker 6 But I thought they get killed off if they want to leave, slash, if the things are not working out anymore. So

Speaker 6 the people that ask to be like be written out, I don't understand that. Like, I don't understand.
Because where are you going?

Speaker 7 Like, I get Mayor because honestly, I don't even know where they were going to go with her storyline. Like, she's with the dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they've had her do so much.

Speaker 7 So I get Mayer taking a small break. I get even if Christina took a small break and came back, but like, girl, come back.
Like, Alex, leave Izzy. Like, we do not want to see Izzy.

Speaker 7 Do not pull up with Izzy and the two kids

Speaker 7 that she had without asking you. Like, let's start there.
Did not ask you to have those kids, but come back. Like, we need more doctors.

Speaker 7 We do. Come back.
Well, I also, I don't.

Speaker 6 I don't like change. So, like, once I'm connected and committed to certain characters, like

Speaker 6 I just need more. Like, I need you to come back.
I need things to stay exactly how they are like i don't really need you to like remove yourself you know what i mean yeah

Speaker 7 and then okay so movie rag i started his three daughters um and i don't know everything about it but so far yeah it's about these three sisters um two are the oldest i believe and then you have the one uh in the house who's staying with the father who's passing he's on hospice um and i haven't gotten super deep into the movie um i'm gonna finish it after i finish the make McMahon man review.

Speaker 7 But I totally love the sister who is played by, she was in Orange's the New Black.

Speaker 6 Hold on, I'm going to Google this. This is scripted and is it based on a true story or is it just like for funsies?

Speaker 7 It's for funsies. It's a movie.
Don't watch it if you're in a sad girl era. But Natasha from Orange is the New Black is in it.
And so far, I love her character because she just wants to smoke.

Speaker 7 Like, she just want to get high.

Speaker 7 Her sisters, who she don't hang with, have come home because her dad is dying dying on hospice and she lives in this house where this man lives in the room next to her dying on hospice the sister she can't stand us there and she just want to get high in peace start her day she's like i have three blunts a day i smoke in the morning i have three in the day and i go about my day her sisters like go outside it's cold outside girl i smoke in the house like please get up out of here like what where is that one on netflix netflix okay it's on netflix okay got that one down wrote that one down have you tried chimp crazy no so everyone keeps telling me about chimp crazy and i heard on the canceled podcast are you familiar with canceled podcasts yes okay so i heard i think it was brooke telling tana about chim crazy it's like the same creator from

Speaker 7 what was it the lion no the tiger king but now it's about chimps yeah like give me the wrong i don't look my followers will yell at me about certain shows love island was a show because i'm very against dating shows i just can't get it set up but i did watch love island once they told me chimp crazy they've been yelling at me for a minute and I'm very against it.

Speaker 7 I started the first episode, it's on Max, it's on the Max app.

Speaker 7 Um, I started the first episode, and then the lady started talking about like the chimp was premature or something, so she started breastfeeding it the same time she was breastfeeding her baby.

Speaker 7 And the dad was like, I walked in and she was just breastfeeding. I was like, Girl, get that monkey off your titty.
Like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 7 And so, I turned it off, and I haven't gone back to it.

Speaker 6 I know you're fucking gone going back.

Speaker 7 And they're like,

Speaker 7 no, no, I can't make this up. I can't make it up.

Speaker 6 It was the first time. Breastfeeding a chimpanzee.

Speaker 6 No, no, no, no, no, because

Speaker 6 breastfeeding a chimpanzee is crazy.

Speaker 7 Baby on one, chimp on the other. And she was like, he couldn't have formula because he was a premature chimp.
So she gave him some breast milk. She did what she knew best.
And I turned it off.

Speaker 7 I was like, I'm good. But according to them, it gets better, like, and not better as in a better storyline, but better as like more crazy shit happens.

Speaker 7 So I'm going to go back, but I'm going to take my time.

Speaker 6 You're like, I'm absolutely not in a rush to watch this woman breastfeed a chimpanzee. Like,

Speaker 6 I love chimpanzees as much as the next person, but do I think that we should be breastfeeding them? Probably not. I don't think so.

Speaker 7 Unsanitary, unsanitary. And I'm not going to believe that you properly like cleaned your nip after breastfeeding the monkey because you put a monkey on your tit.

Speaker 7 So I'm not going to believe that you're,

Speaker 7 you probably like, oh, it's just like putting the baby on there. Like, I'm not going to believe you sanitized properly.
So

Speaker 7 I'm judging. I'm judging hard.
And I don't care. I'm going to say no.
What the fuck?

Speaker 6 Okay. So we have Jim Crazy on Max.
She's breastfeeding shrimps. What other, what other tea do you have for me? I know that I get my stuff from you.
So tell me more.

Speaker 7 So Amelia Perez is coming to Netflix Netflix and it's starring Selena Gomez and Zoe Seldana. And those are just the two, like, you know, main names that I can say that people are like, oh, those two.

Speaker 7 And from what I got, the movie isn't out yet. It's going to be a Chicago film festival and I'm going to go try to sneak and see it.

Speaker 7 But it comes to Netflix. I believe it's November 1st, if I'm not mistaken.
And it's also going to go to select theaters. It's in Spanish.
It's a T, it's not a TV. It's a movie.

Speaker 7 It's a musical drama comedy.

Speaker 7 And basically,

Speaker 7 there's a man that's in a cartel who's married to Selena Gomez. This character, His life goal was always to transition into a woman and to get out of the cartel.

Speaker 7 So he contacts Zoe Seldana's character to get him out of it. A whole bunch of other stuff happens.
Of course, I haven't seen the movie again.

Speaker 7 But basically, the family thinks he died. He is off living as a woman out of the cartel.
Wants to see his family or her family now. Calls Selena Gomez, the wife who's grieving with two kids.

Speaker 7 and thinking that her husband is dead and is like, hey, yeah, I missed the kids and you. I want to come see you.
So a whole bunch of stuff ensues.

Speaker 7 They got like a 10, 15 minute stand-in ovation at Pan's Film Festival. So it's up there for Oscar contenders.
Selena Gomez and Zoe Sodonna are set to possibly be nominated.

Speaker 7 And if they're both nominated, I believe they'll be breaking Oscar's history as two of the first Hispanics in the same category for that nomination.

Speaker 7 And then I'm really behind Selena Gomez because I just love Selena Gomez. So I'm hoping this is very big for her and she finally gets her moment.

Speaker 6 She should. That sounds sounds amazing.
I will absolutely be watching that. And I had no idea.
Is this based on a true story or is this like

Speaker 6 not?

Speaker 7 That part, I don't know. I don't know.
And it's going to be all in Spanish, which is fine. People, you guys should know how to read subtitles.

Speaker 7 But it's all in Spanish. And Selena Gomez is going to have a musical performance, which I'm really excited about.
And I saw some little snippets, but I don't know if it's based on a true story.

Speaker 7 That part I don't know. But if it is, that's even crazier.
That sounds even more lit.

Speaker 6 I was going to ask if you got a chance to watch, I think it's called Child Star, Demi Lovato's film on Hulu.

Speaker 7 Yes, I'm a very big Demi Lovato fan. So I've seen all of her documentaries.
And because of that, for me, a lot of stuff was like things that I already knew about her.

Speaker 7 And I thought it was going to be a little bit more dramatic. But again, that's just me blindly going into it and having my own assumptions.
It was very well

Speaker 7 done. It was Dammy Lovato's directorial debut for those that don't know.

Speaker 7 Christina Ritchie was in it. Keenan Thompson, Raven Simone,

Speaker 7 Drew Barrymore, and Drew Berryman, like sit-down interviews. Yeah.
And she was just talking to them.

Speaker 7 It was very like more so focused on the federal laws that should be passed for child stars so that their money is properly taken care of and properly saved.

Speaker 7 That was more of like the big takeaway for me. It wasn't like quiet on scent.
where it was like, you know, a lot of sexual things happen.

Speaker 7 They did talk about, you know, alcohol and drug abuse at a young age um but it wasn't how child star was i mean not child star uh quite on set was um it was very different and like i said the more so focus was the fact that they want these laws for you know in all 50 states for child star so that their money is properly put up first

Speaker 6 So really quick on that, I did see that Demi Lovato was at the new bill that was passed in California protecting child influencers.

Speaker 6 So these people who are having TikTok accounts and all kinds of accounts, like social media and YouTube, and I guess TikTok, Instagram, social media.

Speaker 6 The new bill, I guess we'll call it. New Some Signs bills protecting earnings of child influencers.

Speaker 6 And I know that Demi Lovato was saying that, you know, the child influencer is the new child, like TV movie star kind of thing. You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 With this new generation, because I think that social media is kind of taking over what we know as the adults that were child stars on TV and movies.

Speaker 6 And so it says that a lot has changed since Hollywood's early days, but in California, our laser focus on protecting kids from exploitation remains the same.

Speaker 6 In old Hollywood, child actors were exploited. In 2024, it's now child influencers.

Speaker 6 And so today, that modern exploitation ends with two new laws that protect young influencers on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and other media platforms.

Speaker 6 Legislation was supported by signer Jemi Lovato, whose recent documentary Child Star probes through the experiences kids have working at a young age in the entertainment industry.

Speaker 6 In order to build a better future for the next generation of child stars, we need to put protections in place for minors working in the digital space. That's what Demi had said in a statement.

Speaker 6 And she says, I'm grateful to Governor Newsom for taking action with this update to the Coogan Law that will ensure children featured on social media are granted agency when they come of age and are properly compensated for the use of their name and likeness.

Speaker 6 And that's something that we still see. I mean, even in reality TV, it makes me so.

Speaker 6 I mean, you remember the whole Mama June thing that just recently, it was like this year or last year that was going on and not having any money.

Speaker 6 And Alana, Honey Lulu was talking about, you know, she, her money was used or whatever. And then I responded.
And I'm, I'm a huge, huge advocate for kids that are on TV and on social media.

Speaker 6 And my kids included, right? Like, my son, he gets paid. Isaac runs his own social media now with my over, with I'm overseeing all of it and like approving certain certain things.
But

Speaker 6 my kids will get every single dime and then some of their money. Like there will never be a world where I don't care how fucking broke I am.
I'm not using my kids' money.

Speaker 6 Like I am where I am because of my kids. And I just can't wrap my head around parents who are taking their kids' money or using their kids' money.

Speaker 6 Or, I mean, remember, Jojo Sewa recently, within the last year or two, had that whole

Speaker 6 conversation about her mom and she was kind of financing her whole family.

Speaker 7 Like that will never happen.

Speaker 6 I teach my son Isaac now, like, okay, when you get paid from Meta, when you get paid from TikTok, I need your ass to get on your fucking accounting, and I need you to take out your taxes and put it in your tax savings account.

Speaker 6 And then I need you to put some in savings, and then I need you to put some in your checking. And then you have a trust fund that we add to, and then you get paid, you know, every year from me.

Speaker 6 And, and, and that's what, you know, what it is. And we do all of that.
And I just can't

Speaker 6 from the day that I signed contracts, I made sure my kids always had their fucking money. I cannot wrap my head around the idea of parents using their kids' money.
I just can't.

Speaker 7 Yeah. And I also think, even to this, isn't on a financial side, but like even Ruby Frankie, she was a more, I believe she was Mormon, and she was abusing her children, who she had on YouTube.

Speaker 7 And I remember watching a few documentaries.

Speaker 7 So just even you able to see the things that she was doing and saying to them, and people were calling for help, I think there needs to be, you know, some laws and some protection around those things.

Speaker 7 Like if you can visibly see and hear that, that, you know, she's causing harm to her children or verbally abusive, there should be something that should be in play because like she's doing this on YouTube.

Speaker 7 So what is she doing when the cameras aren't around? And for the financial side, it's like, I feel like some people don't go into it to make their children happy.

Speaker 7 There are some kids who want to be on TV, some kids that want to be in movies. That's their whole plan.
And, you know, their parents help them.

Speaker 7 But some parents are forcefully making their kids do it because it's their dream. It's something that them as a parent, they wanted to do their whole life.

Speaker 7 So I think there needs to also be a conversation about momagers and daddagers that aren't doing this for the right reasons and somebody else being played to assist with those things when it's seen that those parents aren't fit to do those things.

Speaker 6 I just can't imagine a world where, like, just because I don't do it, I cannot. It's sort of like the Diddy stuff.
Like, I can't imagine keeping my mouth shut.

Speaker 6 I, the Vince McMahon stuff, like, I can't imagine like, just being a bystander and keeping my mouth shut over these like insane travesties that are going on. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 6 So like same thing for kids. Like I can't imagine a world where like I force my kids to be on social media.

Speaker 6 And that's sort of why I'm more careful about the babies because I've already had several kids and like I see, you know, my oldest son likes it and he wants to be an influencer and he wants to do those things.

Speaker 6 So I feel like with the right guidance, it can be okay. And Lincoln, you know, he, he sort of wants to do it, but doesn't really.

Speaker 6 he doesn't care if he's on social media and so i don't make him participate and say lux wants to be in movies he tells me he's going to be a movie star he tells me he's going to be be in wwe like you know those are certain things and i kind of have to but i can't imagine a world where

Speaker 6 like i don't know i kind of believe lux and creed when they tell me they're going to do big things like in movies and tv like i kind of believe them because they are um they're highly entertaining and also just like really funny but i i i i believe them but I just can't imagine a world where I'm like forcing my kids into that.

Speaker 6 You know what I mean? Like, so I, I think it's harder for us to understand when we're not doing that, you know?

Speaker 7 Yeah, for sure and especially because like I'm doing the influencing and content thing now I couldn't imagine doing it as a kid like yeah we played around with it you know when YouTube was just becoming a thing but it wasn't as serious and you know amplified as it is now so I couldn't imagine doing it then and you know not having the education luckily you know your kids specifically have you have the education that you can provide like I couldn't imagine doing it without the education and you know the financial literacy that you need to even do those things So

Speaker 7 it's a whole different thing. And I definitely think a lot of laws.

Speaker 7 And I'm glad for a lot of the documentaries that are coming out as well to bring light, especially because, like, Paris Hilton had a documentary, and you find out more stuff even about Paris Hilton and the things that she went through.

Speaker 7 So I think there's a lot of educational tools in the documentary, especially like the child star and the pop culture phenomenon documentaries to teach us for the future so that we can have more protection for future children and influencers.

Speaker 7 Oh, wow. Influencers are like a future thing.

Speaker 7 And because you know like future and I don't know

Speaker 7 other shows for election season coming up, I recommend. I just finished scandal.
So I recommend scandal for those that haven't seen it. But designated survivor is also a really, really good show.

Speaker 7 And it's on Netflix.

Speaker 7 And it's literally a designated survivor. The capital gets blown up.
And then this guy becomes president. Like, and that is not at all what he was going for.

Speaker 7 I think he was working in housing or something like that. He was not supposed to be in this, but it's really good.

Speaker 7 It just tells about him being president, what happens if democracy is, you know, in trouble and if all of the senators and those in the House of Representatives, if they pass, if the current president passed and, you know, the order of secession isn't able to take place, who is now in charge?

Speaker 7 So I think it's a good, you know, pre-election, you know, if you're trying to get into politics, but maybe you need a TV show.

Speaker 7 Cause I always think there's a TV show movie or documentary for anything. And How to Die Alone with Natasha Wattwell.

Speaker 7 So funny. So funny.
If you haven't watched it, it's about 30 minutes. I believe there's eight episodes.
And I believe the last two episodes come on next week.

Speaker 7 And just like even the first episode, if I can, it's her birthday. She doesn't have any friends.
Her best friend rather go be with a guy that he met in the bathroom. And so he lies.

Speaker 7 She goes and she goes goes shopping to ikea she eats some food she's arguing with a rat the furniture falls on her and she chokes goes to the hospital on her birthday almost die a lady talks to her is like girl you gotta live

Speaker 7 a lady

Speaker 6 what what is that on like what's the um

Speaker 6 it's on hulu so you can watch how to die alone on hulu how to die alone on hulu I'm writing all these down because maybe I can cover them in depth.

Speaker 6 I mean, I won't be funny and witty like you, but I also saw if anyone likes Special Forces or something like that,

Speaker 6 there's a new show. I think it's on CBS.
I'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 7 Hold on.

Speaker 6 It's coming to CBS and it's called The Summit.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 it's giving Special Forces vibes. I'm not entirely sure.
It's giving like Special Forces, the challenge, like that whole thing.

Speaker 6 It's giving those types of vibes.

Speaker 7 Okay, okay.

Speaker 7 And then Kevin can fuck himself. Have you ever watched that? It's on Netflix.

Speaker 6 No, I've never even heard of that.

Speaker 7 Okay, you have to watch it. So for the husband, it's like a comedy.
Like the lights are bright, the crowd is laughing. But for the wife, everything's a drama.
Like it goes dim.

Speaker 7 Her life is very depressing. So you get to see everything that plays.
And she's trying to kill her husband.

Speaker 7 But again, everything's a sitcom for Kevin because life, you know, is shits and giggles for him. But for her, her shit's like really depressed.

Speaker 7 She got roaches and she want to kill her husband because he's an asshole. So I think it's a really good show because they play on each other.

Speaker 6 Oh my God. No, I've never, that one's on, what is that one on?

Speaker 7 Netflix. Netflix.
Netflix. Yep.

Speaker 6 Okay, I'm going to put together a list.

Speaker 6 And if you feel like collab, you don't have to, but if you feel like collabing with Killer, like my network, I want to put together a list of like all of your recommendations for all of these shows.

Speaker 6 So that way we can have people go watch them and they can follow your content if you cover any of them.

Speaker 7 Yes. I wrote them all down.

Speaker 6 I saw that you went to the TikTok creator studio or whatever. That's really awesome.
Are you working on any new projects coming up?

Speaker 7 Right now, no, we are in the, so I'm in the emerging creator program. I also was just invited into Black TikTok or accepted, I should say, into Black TikTok.

Speaker 7 So I was was able to go to the headquarters, tour, see everything, really get inspired, really get to meet some other creators as well. It was really cool.

Speaker 7 And their team is so nice. Like, if I can stress how nice they are, they were so friendly, so helpful.
Like, they just want to make sure you grow. So it was a really cool experience.

Speaker 7 I have, hopefully, I have a lot of stuff coming up with my participation in the programs. I am going to, I haven't even told my followers once they watch this podcast and they'll know.
I'm going to

Speaker 7 CultureCon in New York. I was invited to CultureCon in New York City.
So I'm going to be able to go there. I'm going to do some red carpet stuff.
I get to go to some screenings.

Speaker 7 I'm really excited. So this is like my first like actual trip and actually getting out there due to my content.

Speaker 7 So very exciting and a little nerve-wracking, but also I'm able to go with my best friends. So, you know, that's going to shake.
a lot of those nerves I might have going in there.

Speaker 6 CultureCon is so exciting. Okay, so also, I don't know if you follow Kiara Lewis on TikTok at all, but she is in the book talk world, so not super like pop culture or anything like that.

Speaker 6 But she, you should link up with her because I feel like like two worlds colliding with like TV, movie, and books, that could be a really good collab too.

Speaker 7 And I know that she just,

Speaker 6 yeah, and I know that she just announced her new um podcast with the Unwell Network with Alex Cooper.

Speaker 6 And I feel like that could be really cool because they do a lot of, there's a ton of movie or TV series adaptations to books so like you guys should definitely connect i reached out to have her on my podcast um or to do a collab or whatever but that could be a really good fit for you because she's big on tick tock she's big in um into books but they're doing the the adaptations which would be cool like you cover the book her sorry you cover the movie she covers the book kind of thing that could be really cool that'll be cool that'll be cool i'm definitely i'll send you her i'll send you her tick tock um now so that you can like look for her or whatever thank you i'm definitely into meeting as many people people as possible and how many doors can open.

Speaker 7 And I'm really just happy that people like this ADHD flavored content that I'm putting out for them and that I've been able to build like my own little community that seems to love how I give recaps for movies, TV shows, and documentary and WWE and pop culture.

Speaker 7 So whatever word, yes, we know.

Speaker 6 No, they're so funny. I fucking love all of your commentary.
And Kiara is in New York. So that's why I hadn't said that.
But

Speaker 6 I will, I'm going to put together a little list and I'm going to tag you in it or we could collab on socials. And then

Speaker 6 thank you so much for coming on Barely Fucking Famous. I'm so excited.
And I hope you all the best in all of your success on social media.

Speaker 7 And I'm really, you'll have to let me know how CultureCon goes. Thank you for having me.
And thank you for even thinking for me to come on here. I'm very appreciative.

Speaker 7 And I'm just happy to see all of this.

Speaker 7 And, you know, thanks for supporting. You're always in the comments.

Speaker 7 So I'm very appreciative of that as well because it's like oh you're one of the home girls because like i call all my followers the home girl so like you're one of the og home girls because you were there in the beginning when i first started making tea while content

Speaker 6 oh my god i want to name this episode the home girls um with big teases

Speaker 7 the home girls

Speaker 6 thank you for coming on Of course.

Speaker 7 Thank you so much. I can't wait to tell the girls.
Everybody's so excited.

Speaker 6 Where can people find you?

Speaker 7 Tell us where they can hear all your commentary, watch your videos if you have any anything that you want to plug tell us where to find you for pop culture tv shows and documentary reviews my name is big teases you can find me at just underscore like teases on all of social platforms tick tock youtube and instagram thank you for coming on

Speaker 7 of course we'll hopefully talk to you in the future

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