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get weird. It's your fave villain, Kale Lowry.
And you're listening to Barely Famous. Everybody wanted Kristen, Miss Kristen Korea Hook back, Miss Kristen Hook, really, back for a Barely Famous episode.
And since we're not friends anymore, I figured that I would give you another opportunity to come on and share your updates. Oh, for having me I forgot we're not friends right um shit you're like uh I don't know who fills up my phone calls all day but okay thank you I love your shirt thank you this is stay golden golden girl they've added golden girls to Disney plus which I'm super excited about about because i can only go to sleep to happy shit i don't want to go to sleep like scary shit because i don't have anything that's always literally been you since i've known you you've always been like i don't care that you're watching this but before you go to bed in the living room please turn on like friends or something and i'm like i cannot wake up at two in the morning to go pee and there is someone getting butchered on my screen.
Like I just, or waking up to like screams and things like that. Like I have enough horror in my own real wake life that I don't need to go to sleep to it as well.
Corey thinks that it's like actually a problem that I could go to sleep to like a triple homicide. Oh, I could absolutely fall asleep to it.
I just don't want to wake up and see it. But yeah, like a triple homicide, murder going down for sure.
It's like you just roll over and you start snoring and I don't understand because I'm looking at the screen no matter how tired I am and I'm terrified what's on the screen and you're sleeping. I'm like, you should be scared.
We are not the same. We're not the same.
So what's going on in kristin's world tell us give us an update

on all the things people want an ms update they want a health update they want uh kori and kristin

update so let's talk about it so we'll start i guess we'll start with health update so i'm going

and seeing a bunch of doctors because it before this whole like possible ms situation happened

for those that don't know i was already dealing with health stuff and i had like low iron they're

Thank you. bunch of doctors because before this whole like possible MS situation happened, for those that don't know, I was already dealing with health stuff and I had like low iron.
They're trying to figure that out. And all my vitamins were all out of whack and all this crazy stuff.
So been going to a bunch of doctors. I don't have an update on the MS situation yet because I, I'm going to get yelled at for saying this.
I've not given myself the time to call the MS center to make the appointment with the MS specialist for the whole second opinion.

So everyone in my personal life, including Ms.

Kaylin Ray Lowry is not happy with me at all.

I will do it.

I will.

You have some fear with it too.

I have.

Which is valid.

Because right now I don't know for sure. Right? Like it's not for sure.
It could be, it could not be. Things are pretty steady.
Things are pretty fine. Like for everyone asking about my eye, I haven't had any more progress with my eye.
However, everybody keeps reminding me that it just happened in February and it can take like a year. It's frustrating, but I just, that's the only thing, right, that I have going on right now.
So I am living in like a, would rather not know at this exact moment. But that comes with, I think too, some people might love to have a diagnosis right away because they can process that sooner.
But I think there's, if you're just getting a second opinion because you're not entirely sure, like some are saying yes, some are saying no. I think maybe when you process that, you'll be able to accept it.
For you, might be an easier acceptance than like diving headfirst until yes, I have it and now I need to accept accept it because it's still very possible that you don't have it. And I think that's like the limbo area for you.
Well, and it seems, I don't even think that I've truly processed the hospital. If I'm being honest.
Yeah. That was like, just like the wildest shit ever.
And I really came out of the hospital and like, just went right back to like life. I just literally like, as if it never occurred.
and I just don't think that I really came out of the hospital and like just went right back to like life I just literally like as if it never occurred and I just don't think that I really entirely processed that but then also having to go see all these other doctors for all these other things has been you know I if once I ever get healthy or back to a good health I will never take my health for granted again because the way that I just never thought about it yeah until all this shit started going wrong and I say like just started my hematologist confirmed that like I have been iron deficient for at least five years which is crazy that nobody said anything to you before this like that is never the my old I wasn't good about going and getting my yearly physicals I just wasn't I was like oh whatever like it's fine I'm young who cares um and my once I finally did get blood work they just never told me because the last time I got blood work was 2019. And then we were in the middle of COVID right after that.

So it was just a disaster.

I didn't go anywhere to get blood work.

Nobody.

I just got so used to feeling like shit.

And when I thought back about it after I talked to my hematologist and I was like, when was the last time I didn't feel this way?

Kayla, I literally couldn't tell you.

It's been like eight years.

But that's normalized here in America. That's normalized.
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and that's part of the problem yeah and that's part It's like- And that's part of the problem. And every single thing is tied to weight.
Every single thing. There's not one single time that I've been to the doctor that they're not tying something to weight, which is really frustrating because obviously we want to be able to do something about it.
Right. But like at the same time, our everything that we eat is poisonous.
So like, what are we supposed to do? No, it's, it's so hard. It's such a disaster.
And then hearing from doctors literally sitting there telling you like, oh, like you eat all the things, but our food is like not high enough in iron anyway. And it's not high enough in B12 anyway.
You see, there was this, I watched a TikTok the other day. I might've sent it to you.
If not, I'm going to send it to you. And this girl was talking about, I think it was like, what's rheumatologist.
Is that like, or what is that? Rheumatologist is for autoimmune diseases. So like, right.
Like all those. She said that she went to the doctor and she was telling the doctor that she was getting ready to move out of the country.
And the doctor said that the doctor in the US said that that is best case scenario for her to heal. You sent me that.
Yes. No, 1000%.
And I believe it. Because the stories that I've seen of people

leaving this country and going somewhere else for their health, and like how far they come in like recovery and getting healthy and all those things. It's so crazy.
I just like don't know when the like our country is going to actually like do something about it. They're never going to.
it's really like that's really hard um I also I feel like a sick person right like because I have to go to all these doctors and they all want blood work and they all want vitamins and they all want all these things I can't imagine like being actually sick with a disease or something like how those people feel or battling cancer or anything like that it It's that does something like that does something to your mental health.

I don't give a fuck what people say.

It's just like,

all of a sudden you went from like never having to go to the doctor to you're

always at the freaking doctor.

And like,

I truly,

you know,

I'm grateful to have the jobs that I have because not everybody is able to just be like, Oh, I have a doctor's appointment. Yeah.
You know? So I'm super grateful for that because I don't, people don't prioritize healthcare for that reason alone. Oh, a hundred percent.
Because I mean, especially if you add kids to the mix, right? Because you're already taking off like a paid, paid time off or sick days for your kids. So that's, you know, an issue.
But then for you, like, Corey, you just got done

texting me this morning about like, I mean, your job is differently. That's different.
That's why

I'm not including you. Yeah.
Like other people I can see he can't even prioritize things because

he doesn't have enough days in the year. Like his job, actually, it's crazy because his job just

started letting people and I think it's a day. It's only for his day shift people at his job actually it's crazy because his job just started letting people and i think it's a day it's only for his day shift people at his job um if you have to go for a doctor's appointment or something they'll let you like you'll go to work you'll leave you have to get a doctor's note you come back okay like they just started that which i think is phenomenal but like that's the bare minimum like there shouldn't that shouldn't even be a thing that shouldn't be a like that shouldn't be a 2024 thing that should have been like always so i know people who literally have told me at their jobs if they say like oh i have to be off like they could literally pre-plan an appointment or a procedure months in advance and their person like their hr whoever will come to them their boss will come to them and say you're going to have to reschedule.
First of all, it's illegal as fuck, as far as I know. It's illegal.
However, it happens all over the place. It is so common.
And I'm like, my mom knows people that this has happened to. So it's really insane to me.
I just, it is, I mean, it's just not, this sounds horrible, but you'll get what I'm saying. It's not convenient to be, to have health issues to any degree.
No. At all.
Like it's also just not, it's not convenient to prioritize your health at all. In general, like you can't go to a fucking, uh, like a yearly appointment to keep up with your health so that you get ahead of something because you can't even do that.
It's like, here, we're going to give you 10 days, you know, for the year. That's, that's not even covered one day a month.
No, it's absolutely insane. And then I was like, that's kind of like the update on that stuff.
I did get testing done for autoimmune diseases. So like lupus and all these things.
Something came back high as far as like indicating that I have a high level of inflammation in my body and also that I probably have some type of autoimmune disease, which MS is an autoimmune disease, but there's also like literally hundreds of others. Okay.
One particular antibody came back high, like positive for that antibody. It's called like anti-scleroderma antibodies.
So I read up all about that because I'm me. Yeah.
And that was, if I had to pick between MS and having like scleroderma, I would have picked MS. What is scleroderma? If I have the understanding properly, it really, it affects like your skin, your really a lot of your skin.
I think it goes into your muscles and things like that. But it literally like, there's people on TikTok that have it and they talk about it.
So like, I don't want to butcher this. But one of like the key, I don't have any of the outward symptoms, right? I don't have skin thickening.
I don't have skin tightening. I don't have things like this, but like there is someone on TikTok that I started like seeing her content, of course, like the phone's listening.
And the, your mouth actually starts to completely shrink, like the opening of your mouth, mouth because you can't it tightens so much that like it starts affecting like oral care trying to eat swallow things like that is like the bare minimum that it can affect it's horrific what scleroderma can do to people so I of course like went back to the doctor because no one said anything to me when i got the results i'm like hey like what the fuck is this and they told me what the fuck is this yeah um they said uh so that i talked to my hematologist about it and she was like i could go pull 50 people off the street and half of them would have the same blood work you do and not have anything wrong because that specific antibody test is notoriously inaccurate oh like the lead test saga that we dealt with yeah and i just said why are we doing inaccurate like we're continuing to do inaccurate testing why not just go for the accurate version that well so i said to her i was like what do you so what does that mean and our insurance is covering an inaccurate test that is not going to benefit us in any way but won't cover the things that we actually need and that are accurate correct okay got it just so that we're i just want to be clear so that was wild um i was very happy to see that I didn't have lupus because of that has been suspected quite a few times, like even when I was younger, but I never really like went further in it. It was just like mentioned in passing and then I was fine.
So nobody like looked further. So I was a little concerned about that because I know that one's also like, I don't think there's any autoimmune disease that is not like gnarly on your body.

Like it's, I think at the point where your body starts attacking itself in any way, shape or form, it never is good.

So I have to, as far as the plan right now, my iron came up from the iron infusions.

Thank God.

Okay.

So like those were a little bit rough, but I so much better like i feel it took time yeah which they said like it was going to take time my numbers came up so now we're just making sure they don't go back down okay um in the meantime i'm supposed to get a colonoscopy and an endoscopy at the same like the same time but like not the. Right, right, right.
Because I... What you're laying down.
Because Corey said to me, he goes, you're going to get spit roasted. And I was like...
Double fisted. Excuse me? So I asked the doctor when I was, she was telling me all about it.
When I saw the GI doctor, I was like, okay, so like, are you touching tips or no? And she's like, absolutely not. We don't do that here.
I said, I just had to confirm because the sound of that sounded terrible. So I'm supposed to get that done.
I'm scheduled for right before vacation and I'm going to post phone it because I don't want to find out anything bad about my vacation. Rightfully so.
And truly like, just enjoy enjoy your vacation like just enjoy your time with your husband and like yeah you don't need to be worried i think you'll be anxious but like also enough time has gone on that you're like i just some i feel like for you in this whole scenario has been like helpful to not know right now. Kind of.
Yeah. Well, because I already know enough is wrong.
Does that make sense? Like, yeah. And enough is wrong and I'm working on fixing those things.
And it is so much harder for me to process that I'm supposed to be fixing this shit and potentially having to deal with other shit on top of it. That's just how my brain works.
So I think like once it's confirmed that like my B12 is up and I don't need any more B12 shots and that my iron is stabilized and that's fine. And I get the colonoscopy out of the way.
We figure that like, let I have to just be able to go step by step. And you know, you've been good about it.
I know that you're not thrilled. I haven't gone to the doctor yet.
But I have other people in my life, like my mom and Corey, and everyone gets like so mad at me. And I understand because I've been on the other side of this.
I've been on the other side of someone being sick and needing to get testing or wishing that they did because they passed away instead. I've been on that side.
But until you're on this side of it, it kind of only matters, in my opinion, like the person going through it needs to heal and like be able to process, right? It's not like there's a suspicion. Well, they're doing the colonoscopy to make sure I don't have colon cancer because the colon cancer rates in people our age are, and younger, are skyrocketing.
Yeah. I have a family history of it.
So like they want to double check because some, a lot of people are presenting and have zero symptoms. So like we have to double check, right? Totally appreciate it.
That's fine. But right now there's just not any type of high suspicion that anything going on with me is like, cancer related.
Obviously, if someone looked at me and was like, hey, we need you to do this stuff, because we think that this could be a very real possibility. I would suck it the fuck up and I would get the shit done.
But knowing that it's like, if I find out I have MS, the only thing that's going to happen is potentially they'll start me on a medication to basically prolong the time that I would stay in remission and not have further damage occurring in my brain. But there's no cure for it.
Okay. So it's kind of like when people go on medicine for like Alzheimer's to hopefully slow down the progression.
But for you, it would be like hopefully increasing the amount of time between, would they call it like an episode? Like relapses. Relapses.
Because there's so many different kinds of MS, but the most common type is relapsing, remitting. Okay.
So is that similar to lupus? Like lupus has like- I think so because it can go dormant, right? Like so essentially it like lays dormant in your body until something activates it which is kind of why this is so this is a really fucking stupid question but it's sort of like hiv too i think that can also kind of because when it's hiv before it turns into aids you know they can keep it kind of like it's not affecting anything. It's not active.
Yeah. Cause I know my uncles lived with it for a really, really long time.
Like probably as long as I've been around and I feel like it wasn't active. Like, I don't know if active.
So I wonder if it's the same.

He probably took immunosuppressants so that it didn't progress.

Okay.

Like that's what that is supposed to do.

So that didn't progress.

Essentially would be the same.

So MS has a ton of different medication options.

Every single one of them suppresses your immune system because it's your immune system being

overactive that triggers the progression of the disease.

So it's like your immune system, it starts attacking your body. Okay.
So it's sort of like that. So just I think in my head, just like knowing, and I'm like, that's super important, right? Like, you don't want to get more lesions, because you don't want to have symptoms.
And you don't want to have lifelong consequences of like, ending up in a wheelchair and not being able to like move or having a lot of pain and things like that, not negating that fact. But I feel confident right now, after talking with my neurologist, he wasn't like, you need to hurry up and get in.
Okay, because he saw my brain scans, right? So it's like, you might have this, this looks like it could be this. You don't have any of the outward symptoms, You happen to have apoptic neuritis, but you had COVID.
So like it's that part was kind of like a mess. So like he literally said to me, unless something new or fun happens to you.
New or fun. New or fun.
I love him. He's like an old guy.
Yeah, yeah. Phenomenal.
He's like, unless something new or fun happens and you need to email me, like, just make that appointment when you can. Get in there.
Get a second opinion. He even said, like, because one of the tests for MS is to get a lumbar puncture, which is scary to me.
He said, I would ask them, like, while you're there, I would ask, like, is your recommendation to get a lumbar puncture? And if so, and if that comes back positive, would that lead you, based off my brain scan and a positive lumbar puncture, to put me on medication? If not, hold off on the lumbar puncture. Yeah.
Because that doesn't come without risks either. I think that's what I was supposed to do for the bone marrow transplant.
Like as part of testing? No, to like do the bone marrow. Oh, you probably were getting like, I think, well, cause like lumbar puncture is, well, I think lumbar puncture is a spinal tap.
Don't quote me. That's when they take out some of your spinal fluid.
So I don't think you were probably going straight into your bone marrow to get yours taken out. Yeah.
And I think they probably, were they going to do it probably in your side? No, in your back. Oh, interesting.
Because I found out from the hematologist when I was, she was like asking me how I did after the iron infusions. And I was like, oh my God, like down here was killing me.
And she's like, I'm talking like low hip area into like the sides of my hip and she's like that's where the majority of your bone marrow is made interesting so it like basically like activates the shit out of it when you have an iron infusion oh you're the first person that I've ever known or heard of people getting someone getting an iron transfusion like I didn't know that was a thing apparently it's like super fucking common I had no idea I didn't know it was a thing either it's common that's an even bigger problem yes well and that's why they were saying it's it's more common in people like vegetarians that don't eat enough meat but like for I think regular people it's not super common but it's more common in people that don't eat a lot of meat because you're not getting what you need um and then the only thing I still have to do is start my vitamin d supplements because I hate taking pills and that's can you get like a powder or mix of some sort I don't know because they want me on the I literally have it in front of me I have about 16 bottles at my house so I'm supposed to take 50,000 IUs um twice a week this is literally supposed to be huge dose for one time a week but mine is so bad that my vitamin d is a three and it's supposed to be like way more i don't even know what my levels are we should just go get blood work for podcast content like compare i can't recommend it enough you know what i want to do and we've talked about this i want to go get whether it's a the pernuvo mri situation like full body scan i messaged them they didn't message me back so pernuvo I'm gonna need you to get it together. I want to do it so bad because I just want to know like what's up so many I've seen so many people getting it because it came out a little bit ago and not that many people were doing it but now people are doing it and they're also just going and getting like a full body scan like not through them um and I just they post their and stuff.
They talk about the results they got and they find out that like they have a hemangioma in their spine or they have like a cyst. What the fuck is a hemangioma? It's something that happens at birth that I think doesn't actually affect you.
I'm assuming hemangioma has something to do with blood spot maybe. Yeah, Pernuvo did not respond i unfollowed them i'll just schedule like on my own we should yeah i just i want to go so bad and i feel like i think i'd be scared like i'd be like so like excited but like very scared to do very scared um so i think that's fun but that's kind of the update in health land.
Um, it's still a journey. Um, I've had a lot of people actually from the Facebook, like podcast community that have reached out to me on my Instagram and they're like, I have MS.
If you have any questions, like, let me know. And it was actually shocking because not that I think anybody walks around being like, oh, I have MS.
But where you and I were at with it like thinking I was literally like legit about to die um to seeing all these people living their best lives and stuff and I'm like I didn't even you can't tell you're sick oh right so I'm like oh shit like that's not as bad as what was in my head so that's been well we talked about this last time too like I think commercials and just where we were back when we first like were discovering or not discovering learning about MS it was very different than it is today or at least it was presented differently and so we had this idea in our mind that like you were going to be in a wheelchair and it was going to be like life's over really bad yeah so I'm glad that that's not the case and I'm I'm super glad that we have this community because I have seen a lot of people especially like for this episode specifically like they wanted an update from you they wanted to hear from you and so I'm really thank no I'm like really thankful for the community that are like reaching out and like telling you their stories too because I'm sure that provides some level of comfort knowing that there are people that you could talk to on a regular basis that also have it yeah it's like comfort and then also just knowing you're not the only one right like I think that's like such a huge part of mental health is you can get in situations where you feel like you're the only one experiencing something but when you really think about it in a world this big you're never the only one never there's never a chance that you're the only one so something. But when you really think about it in a world this big, you're never the only one.
Never. There's never a chance that you're the only one.
So I appreciate everybody reaching out to me and being concerned. It's very nice.
As far as me and Corey, we've been busy, obviously, working, but living our best life with him on day shift. It's been nice.
Well, I'm just so glad because we've gotten to... You and me have seen each other so much this last like two months three months yeah and i'm like it's crazy and i i think all of it between like cory switching to day shift i don't think that that has anything to do with it but it's probably nice because like we're seeing each other more you're seeing him more but can we please talk about the adjustment of sleeping with our husbands? Because I literally went between the twins being born, Rio getting his like, there's just so much going on that now Elisha is back in the bed and I.
I'm struggling. Yeah.
Like, I love him. Don't get me wrong.
I love him so bad. Like, I love him.
want to kiss his little face i don't i have gotten so accustomed to sleeping in the bed without him that like i want to snuggle him but i don't want him to sleep in my bed so like for me i like cory spent on nights the entire time we've been. So the only time we would sleep together is if he was off.

And after I got so used to being the only one in bed, when he was off, I wouldn't sleep.

I couldn't sleep.

I don't know why.

It's not like he was doing anything to me.

I just could not sleep.

I couldn't lay the way I wanted to lay.

I couldn't.

It just, it was annoying. So I would end up going out on the couch.

Like, even at the apartment, I would go out onto the couch or something because Cause I just needed sleep. And I, it wasn't happening in the bed.
That happened last night. I woke up at three in the morning and I went upstairs.
I went in one of the kids' bed. Tell me why I come downstairs this morning.
He's like, where did you disappear to? I said, I went upstairs. He said, why? And I was like, I couldn't sleep.
Like I know. And I love him to death.
It's just like, I grew so accustomed, I guess, to like, because of the chaos of the twins and everything else. And it's just going to take some getting used to.
Also, I think if it was, if, if we had time without the kids and I knew I could sleep in, in the morning, I feel like that would be more okay with it. But because I know that there, we don't have a babysitter at nights, nights and nights and weekends we do not have babysitters so i know if i can't sleep and i still try to like thug it out it's not going to work out so maybe when we i think we're going for his birthday we're going to go stay in a hotel for a night that would be so good that we'll be able to sleep together fine and i know that we'll be able to sleep in in the morning you know what i mean so like it'll be better but if it's like an all-night night thing where I know I have to get up at 630 in the morning, I can't.
And it's the same. It was you said it was happening because I'm like, I love them.
I love to do with that. It's I don't even it's just like, getting older, you sleep differently.
When you are when someone's with you, I think just subconsciously, you relax more power in numbers. If something were to to happen there's two of us like I think subconsciously like that's just like something that I know that I was affected by so I slept differently I slept lighter but I would sleep without him being home right so like I also have like had all the insomnia and shit going on this entire time he was on nights too so like that wasn't helpful when I would sleep I'd be able to sleep but like someone breathing in the room would wake me up now I'm dead I am absolutely dead there is nothing waking me up outside of an alarm which if I have to sit in bed one more time because he gets up earlier than I do to go to work because he has to get in before me.
This man starts setting his alarms at 445 in the morning.

Why do they do that?

And then they go, I'm wanting.

He has them every five minutes.

So does Elisa.

Down to 530.

That's where it started with the twins when the twins were born and he was getting up

to go to work.

And I was like, we're not doing this.

You have to, like, I can't do this 445, 5 o'clock, 515, that home.

Like, I can't do it.

So you need to go out on the couch. I was like, you have got to be kidding me.
And he'll be and I'll be like hitting him. But at that point, once I'm up, I'm up.
There is no going back to sleep for me at all. Once I wake up, that's it.
So it would just piss me off. And I was like, you've got to be kidding me.
So like that was hard in and of itself. But then just like not being I was out of my element my element that's literally what it was I was completely out of my element it took probably like two and a half three weeks of him being on days for me to start to get used to it then my ass ended up in the hospital so then I was by myself again and then I came home and I was just so glad to be fucking home that I don't think that it actually ended up mad like really mattering to me I just like kind of fell back into it and then now I'm fine thankfully but then because he's had to do those weird switches where he'll have to go back to nights for a couple days to like do a special thing it happens all over again and he gets so mad he's like offended right and I'm like it's been like 10 years.
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It's nothing like that. It's just like, for some reason, I just can't, I just can't sleep sometimes with you in bed.
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Maybe when he doesn't have any more of those weird switches and it'll be like two or three weeks of like pure just day shift and days off. And then for me, when the twins get their own room, it'll just because I also think for us that plays a part because i'm also waking up when the twins wake up and then also listening for them like subconsciously you're probably listening for them i don't know so much about because they always say like guys don't hear crying babies i don't know how accurate that is but it's accurate it is it's accurate i'm like literally like

especially when they wake up at the same time um during the night it's like if it's just faster we can all go to sleep faster if we both just tag team at night um yeah so i just i don't know but you said you're doing a. Can we just say, if you have the ability to get a hotel with your significant other for a night, it's fantastic.
Even if you do nothing. We're going for one night.
Literally a hotel room for one night. That's all we have because nobody really wants to watch like itty bitty babies.
And it's because there's three of them so his mom said that she would watch them saturday into sunday which his birthday falls on a saturday um so we'll leave saturday and come back on sunday and actually get the kids back on sunday too so it all kind of works out but um yeah if you have kids and it's possible i mean these are very few and far and far between. I haven't been with, I haven't been to a hotel with Elijah by ourselves in over two years.
That was probably since we did the big killer dinner. Yes.
When we signed Vibin' and Kind of Thrivin'. Yep.
That was exact. That was the last time, which was two years ago.
Yeah. So the only other times between then were with the kids.
And that's not a vacation ever. It's not.
It's a trip and you're with the kids in another place like plain and simple. So I really wanted to give an update on Disney, which I think I talked about Disney on coffee combos.
But I wanted to bring it over here because Kristen and I were trying to plan this Disney trip for this year to go together, which now we know is not working out, but I'm still planning to take my kids. For those of you guys listening who love Disney and want to recommend like a travel agent specific to Disney, that would be super helpful.
If you guys could like start a thread in the Barely Famous podcast group on Facebook, that would be super helpful. I don't want like I want a Disney specific.
I want a Disney specific one because you guys mentioned nanny services there. You've also mentioned like tour guide there.
And I also I did ask the boys this morning before Kristen let me know that she can no longer attend the trip which it was your idea but that's okay we're stealing it now um we the boys all decided collectively Isaac Lincoln Lux and Creed decided they do not want to do a Disney cruise for Lux and Creed's first time they all want to go to Disney World so that's what we're planning to do um I still would like to do a Disney cruise at some point we are only I'm only taking the four older ones and then when we go again it will be literally in five years probably when we take um Rio and the twins but um leave a comment for Disney specific travel agents please I've actually had a couple people reach out to me like in my personal

dms about like helping oh or because you know what and I do I do appreciate the help like when people are like offering to help but are not travel agents like I love this is like Disney specific travel agents yeah oh cool okay that made a way to my personal Instagram and like I'm not doubting that like a travel agent in general can plan a Disney trip. I just, I think for this and potentially me being the only adult, I don't know.
I don't know when I don't know if Elijah is coming for any amount of the trip. I also just I think for this, because there's so many moving parts, I just need someone who is specific to Disney.
Yeah. No, I think that'll be good.

I think it'll be fun.

I'm bummed I'm not going.

But Corey and I...

But you'll go next year.

And then maybe...

I feel like we'll be able to sucker you into going again.

So it'll be fine.

You're like, I'm okay telling Kale this.

Because I think I can convince her to go again.

Yeah, exactly.

I have good odds.

You're like, I convinced her this year.

And she was not planning on it. So...
We are going on a vacation together, though. Yeah, exactly.
I have good odds. You're like, I convinced her this year and she was not planning on it.

We are going on a vacation together, though. Yeah, we are.
So that also made me feel better. Since last year we went on, I met you guys down in Myrtle Beach for a little bit.
I'm excited that this year it's going to be longer because the kids were so upset that we were only there for such a short time last year. but I told you last year that like I'm about the small trips like more frequent trips that are shorter because I still want the kids to go make these I don't I used to say no to short trips because I'm like I'm not packing everybody up to go for a short trip but now I'm like we're everyone the older four at the age where it's like I'm back to being able to pack them up quickly for shorter trips but this one will be good because we're staying for like five days which is fantastic and then um we have like a whole game plan Elisha will be able to come and I'm excited about it like I think the kids are really I'm also gonna be able to get on a banana boat this time because I'm so excited you're gonna be able to jet ski you're gonna be able to banana boat you're to be able to do all the things because you were, you were pregnant.
For two years in a row. Yeah.
And then truthfully, Creed was not that far behind that because even when I went to the doctor this morning, I had Creed, Rio and Valley and Creed will be four. Rio's about to be two and Valley is seven months.
so I was I mean with the exception of one year I was basically pregnant for three years like in a row almost well yeah and I'm literally sitting here and I'm trying to think to myself like how many years total of your life have you spent pregnant because that's wild to think about that's six years speaking of well let's let's go through it i was pregnant

in 2008 people um whether people know that or not i was pregnant in 2009 with isaac lincoln 2013 pregnant again in 2014 which was a mis was it 14 or 15 i think you were it might have been 15. 15 because you got

divorced in 16 officially.

Okay, okay, okay. So

2008. I think you were might have been 15 15 because you got divorced in 16

officially

2008

2009

2013

2015

2016 into 17

2018

yeah there were 3 or four with Chris. And then again in 2000 and Creed was 2020.
Mm-hmm. And then there was another one after Creed.
Mm-hmm. What year was that? 20 21.
Oh oh I think it was 20 20 if I'm not mistaken you was born in 2020 yeah I know I think you got pregnant are you kidding me no it was the following year because i was in either 2020 or 2021 it was something like that and then again in 2022 for rio two and three and then 2023 and then i'm pregnant again right obviously oh i was cramping so bad last night when we did the book the Instagram or the book club we did book club live I had the worst cramps and I'm like I cannot imagine like being pregnant again what is that okay this sounds so dumb but like what is the feeling like when you spend I mean you didn't but you spend all this time trying to like prevent pregnancy right like you're getting told because i just named off 10 years i was saying like you didn't do that when you really think about it all the shit that they say is like don't get pregnant don't get pregnant don't get pregnant don't get pregnant right and then all of a sudden it's hurry up your clock's ticking like you're not kidding why do that? Like, what is actually happening?

Um, so I just am like, what is the feeling of, like, I'm so fucking done?

Like, at what pregnancy do you feel like you actually hit?

I'm so fucking done with this.

With Creed.

Yeah, I was gonna guess.

And then I got pregnant four more times.

Was it four?

I think it was like four or five more times after that isn't that crazy I just like don't know like I can't I don't know like that just sound like pregnancy to me like just from seeing my friends go through it and all the things and hearing about it like that does not not sound like a good time. It depends.
I, you either love it or you hate it. Unsure what I'm going to feel.
And I have, I've had both. Like I've loved certain pregnancies.
I have not loved certain pregnancies. I've loved parts of pregnancy.
I've loved, I definitely think that my, the journey of me carrying children has, is over. And like, I'm, I'm confident in that and I'm confident in like, I'm in that decision I've loved your I loved my time I appreciate the opportunity but we're moving on now that chapter has closed I know that you talked about Elijah being in the regret phase of his vasectomy is he still there we actually haven't talked about it since i recorded that episode did i did i said that on the podcast right yeah yeah we haven't talked about it since then which i think i'm almost glad that we haven't because i feel like if we would have made any like firm decisions while we were actively in the i don't know if it's regret just like realizing that that door has closed that, that chapter has ended kind of thing.
If we would have made any solid decisions, that could have been. I don't know, like now we're getting goats and chickens and I feel like that's a better option.
Now you're playing the pet era. Would I adopt a child? Maybe I would explore that opportunity like that.
Maybe not even adopt, but like maybe foster maybe foster a child like I feel like that would be more of um something that I would entertain more than like IVF or something because I it just that feels like a lot and um I don't know I would rather help another child that needs a home than bring another one in. Like, I think seven is a lot.
So I, I think I also just look at it too. And I'm like, Elijah's so much younger.
So I'm like, you just listed off as many pregnancies as you have, as you've had, you have seven living children here. I'm thinking that it also, not easier to come to terms with that door closing, but like like you've been the one to carry all of these kids, right? It's taken a toll on your body.
It's taken a toll on your mental health. Like all the things, not saying that it does like pregnancy and having kids doesn't take a toll on dads, but it's a very different toll.
Yeah. So I also wonder if that plays into it where you're able to say like, no, I'm done like physically having kids.
And he's like, eh. Well, because too, I'm like, I, this has been a 15 year journey for me, right? Like I've been having kids for 15 years, like from start to finish, there has no, there's been no gap really.
And so then if you put that into perspective with him banging out three back to back in two years, it might feel like a lot to other other people and maybe even to him it's like okay you went from zero to three so fucking quick but it also hasn't been a whole lot of time to like let that sink in and like process that and so until you've fully like been able to take a step back and been like able to reflect it might not like i can see why he's like wait i'm not done but like we haven't even we don't have three toddlers yet when we have three toddlers he might be like wow I'm glad that we didn't continue with our own and you know with the foster like if we were I don't know what that looks like I've never explored it I've never really entertained it before um but we might be able to foster you know a baby and then hopefully they would reunite with their mom or their parents. And then or we could foster like a toddler or like an older kid.
And that might be a very different experience to like that would fulfill us in a different way. So I don't know.
I just I feel like the more time that he is able to like sit with this, he doesn't regret it. But like he definitely hasn't brought it up to me specifically.
Like he hasn said anything about like since i recorded that episode i don't i don't know like maybe people messaged him i don't know because i don't know if his family like gives him feedback like i don't know if they talk to him about what they hear or see online i have no clue so maybe they heard it or saw it and they were like what the and so maybe he doesn't want to tell me i don't know I don't know. I just think that's got to be hard.

You mentioned IVF and I, this is, I feel like a controversial opinion. Hot take.
Hot take, we'll say. Corey and I just recently had a conversation, again, this is not the first time we've had this conversation, about kids.
And we have friends that like we know that are like going through IVF and all the things and I flat told him I said listen just like not even only solely taking my health into consideration or like potential issues that I might have not have whatever I flat told him I said if it ever got to the point of IVF like I would rather explore adoption okay because adoption has been something that I've wanted to do since I was you've always said that to me yeah you've always said that to me always wanted to adopt and he was not necessarily like that wasn't something he had ever thought of when we got together and we had these conversations it wasn't something he ever thought of he didn't say no but it was such a foreign idea to him he just had never thought about it but as we get closer to like potentially starting trying for a baby and stuff I said to him I was like listen I have

no interest in doing IVF ever and I understand a baby that is genetically mine and like ours

bad enough to put myself through fucking IVF. Hi, I'm Kristen bell.
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Restrictions apply. I have heard, and I know that this doesn't happen for everyone,

but like I've heard horror stories about like this one girl.

We won't get into how I know her,

but she gained,

she,

I think gained like 80 pounds.

She had her tubes tied,

met someone new.

I believe they got married first or they did IVF first. She ended up after her tubal ended up putting on like 80 pounds.
That's close to a hundred pounds just to be able to try to conceive naturally. And I, and I get that that seems like not that big of a deal or people that want a baby bad enough are like, well, I'd be willing to put on the 80 pounds.
But like, when I tell you now as a 32 year old mother, how hard it is on my body to be ripping and running around with my kids all the time, I personally, for my own life could not afford to gain 80 pounds to have a child that's genetically related to me. You know what I mean? Like I personally, I'm not willing to put my body through it.
I don't want to deal with the hormones. I don't.
And I get it. That's some people's only option.
But for me personally, I would rather explore the idea of like adoption, foster, surrogacy. Would you guys do that? Surrogacy, like I have always joked about it, right? Like I've always joked about like, I would, if, if that was an option financially for me me I would have done that shit eight years ago like if I didn't part of the waiting process of like having kids is like one there was things that I wanted to do before I like entered that journey the other part was just like the very real fear that I have of childbirth childbirth and pregnancy in and of itself so it's like and that's like sometimes like that shit's like debilitating I've talked to other people who have it worse than I do and they're just like I'm simply not having them I'm not having kids because I'm too scared so So it gets like very much a thing.

And I always joke with Corey,

Corey's not open to surrogacy.

That's not something that he is,

it weirds him out.

Like he just,

he can't like even think through somebody else carrying our child.

Yeah.

And it's interesting to me. I don't think that Elijah would prefer that.
I mean, I think if I was like, Hey, like I want to have another baby, but I don't want to do that through a surrogate. I think you'd be like, okay.
But I think it would take some talking. I wonder what that is.
Like, like also, can we also talk about like normalizing families who maybe don't want to have kids at all or yeah I say that all the time I just feel like there's such this crazy pressure on you specifically or like other women to have children that the people that are on the fence about it are like more leaning towards okay well I guess I'm I'll have them because that's what I'm supposed to do or what my partner wants or what my partner thinks he wants I love and respect anyone that chooses not to have children because it's fucking hard it's difficult it's scary I get it and like you really never know how they're going to turn out so like you could be the best mom in the world and as an adult they're fucking up and an embarrassment to the family like we get it like they're that's real that part is scary our fucking world is scary like the like there's a lot of scary situations involved in it like the fact that we have like the worst mortality rate in pregnant women amongst any like developed country is wild like to think about Like you should not have to worry about dying while giving birth.

Right. That should be something.

You should be able to do it naturally and less.

It's just.

Rage of death.

Yeah.

It's like crazy.

Like that part is crazy to think about.

I just.

I am a huge proponent for people to just do whatever the fuck they want to do.

I think too like.

A lot of people don't want to have kids. economy like you can't fucking afford it you can't even like goes back to what we just said you can't even afford to take time off to take care of your health so like then you're gonna bring a kid in they have to go to doctor's appointments so how the hell are you gonna do that the cost of cost of childcare is...
Every time somebody that I know has kids and they're telling me about their childcare costs or I fucking see yours, I gag every time. And I'm going to have two in preschool this year.
I'm like, what do you do? And then childcare after that because it's only like a 9 to 12

program situation so

it's really just crazy so I'm

all for it I think too like a lot of it

is also people claim like

well if you don't do it you're going to regret

it you're going to regret not having kids and I

don't think that that's

necessarily the regret that most

people feel I think it's the opposite

I think that there are a lot of parents who

absolutely regret having children

they won't admit it though

Thank you. that that's necessarily the regret that most people feel.
I think it's the opposite. I think that there are a lot of parents who absolutely regret having children.
They won't admit it, though. Baby, I've been on Reddit and the shit that they're on there talking about, like, there's an entire thing of like, I absolutely regret being a mom.
It's the worst thing I've ever done in my life. And there's just people like literally because it's so anonymous on Reddit, where it's like, they can and like vent and tell their stories and i would i am sure amongst the huge facebook communities all the podcasts have there are multiple people who regret being a parent and if you know what i'll post it post it anonymously like send it anonymous anonymously and i'll make sure it gets posted but you know what i um, if more people would normalize and V and I just talked about, um, like elective parenting or platonic parenting.
Oh yes. Yes.
I feel like if we normalize that where it's like people who want to have children aren't rushing into relationships because of the societal pressures, if we more so normalize people having platonic families and elective parenting where they are sharing 50, 50 custody, I think that people would have the best of both worlds where they're having their, that you can still go to your child's events when they're with the other parent. Um, and so you're still doing the mom thing or the dad thing on those weeks.
And then you only have them 50% of the time. I thoroughly believe if a child is born into that situation, and it is platonic and unhealthy environment, they don't know any different.
That's mom, that's dad, that's mom, that's mom, that's dad, that's dad, whatever the case may be. That is what I just feel like less people who regret parenting, there would be not as much pressure.
Does that make sense? Yeah, I also think too, Like when you think that would work out, especially for people, there's people who regret parenting, there would be not as much pressure. Does that make sense? Yeah.
I also think too, like when you think that would work out, especially for people, there's people who exist that have no interest in ever being in a relationship. Right.
They don't want to. They just want to live life with their best friends and like, that's it.
Maybe they want a baby. Okay.
So have a baby with like one of your best friends. I don't know.
Yeah. Like I've seen TikTok things about like women getting divorced and then they go and they just like buy a house together and their best friends raising their kids together.
What? Yeah. Okay.
And like, if it's a healthy environment, that's literally all you can ask for. You're already like 300 steps ahead of the game.
If you're, if you have a healthy environment where we're at today that's how I feel I just I think I've gotten hate from saying like I have I've had the best of both worlds you know since Javi and I got divorced you're being honest on and off I think because I also have had Creed and Lux most of the time um but I do I was having like weekends off every other week and then in in the summertime, it's 50 50. So I, and I, I would still go like, if Chris were to sign the kids up for sports in the summertime, I'd still go to their stuff on his weeks.
But, you know, we take the summers off and it's fun and whatever, but you know, I understand why people don't want to have kids. Like I do, I have, you know, the three babies here at all times.
Like they're always here. They're always, you know, ours.
And, um, I understand why someone would not want that. I personally love it.
I feel like that's what I'm here for. I'm was put on this planet to be a mom, but that's not everybody's story and that's okay.
Well, 1000%. And I think too, like, you know, that you saying that you had the best of both, both worlds, right? Beforeed came in and it was just lincoln and isaac and you had gotten divorced and you went 50 50 one i don't understand why anyone's hating on that because you're being completely honest about your feelings and nobody can tell someone that their feelings are wrong so that's really fucking bizarre that's number one number two um like you that doesn't mean just because saying that this was, like, the best of both worlds here does not mean that you didn't cry because you missed your kids.
Does not mean that you missed your kids so bad. Like, that doesn't mean that.
It just meant, as far as your personal time went, you had the best of both worlds. Right.
You're not singing. And I think that's where, I mean, I've cried dropping off, not even, it was this year, this school year.
So like 2023 into 2024, there was a day that I cried at drop off because I dropped Lincoln off at school and I knew that I wasn't going to have them at my house for like a week. And so I do think like, and, and just like any other aspect of life, it's, uh, there's phases, right? Like I, there are times where I just needed a break and I got one because I had 50 50 or I don't want to give my kids up and I hate it and I miss it.
And I, you know, I miss them and I want them to come home. So it's just been, it's been, um, just like phases of life.
And I'm sure there are times where they don't want to be here. They want to be at their dad's or they want to be here more and they don't want to be at their dad.
Like, it's just like any other thing, but I, I wish we would normalize that more in America. I think that would be really cool.
I don't know what it is in other countries, but like in here. That's a good question.
I think that would, I think that would be cool. I think too, it would, you know, I think that there's a, there's probably a lot of people who don't find the right person for them.
to have a relationship until they're much older now because like the pools are small and I'm not even just talking about men that's all across the board just like the pools to pick good people from very much getting smaller yeah like you wait too long and unfortunately if you like biologically by the time you find your person that you might want to have kids with, if you didn't freeze your eggs, or you're not like doing any of those things that you could do, and you're out of time, like you're out of time, you can't get that time back. And they might just end up not having kids.
And they could have been the most amazing parents. And then you have people out here who are absolutely the worst parents I could ever imagine in my life.
And I try not to judge parents because I'm not one. But I also have very good examples of what good ones look like.
So I feel like I can discern like, who's good and who's, you know, needs some fucking improvement. You have them becoming parents.
And it's just like, for what? Because like, what was the case? Did you not use protection? That's, you know, one case is it you just want a baby to fix a relationship. That's another case is it you want to have a baby because that's what society says you should do.
And that's the person you're with at the time. So you get pregnant.
There's so many situations where I think that could be avoided. Yeah, having people becoming parents that are not good parents, right? Or not want to be.
I read an article this morning morning i sent it to lindsey and it was this woman her four-year-old died because all she ever did was give that give her mountain dew in a bottle i'm sorry what says um mom sentenced to prison after four-year-old daughter dies from being fed only mountain dew in a baby bottle? What one I'm gonna need you to elaborate because I need to know like how long this was occurring for but also like what would possess any person? I feel like it is very much common sense what you would feed a baby and what you wouldn't and it's never Mountain Dew. That's not funny.
I'm not I'm laughing now at your face but like just like don't understand like i okay this is all right so confused ohio okay carmody um she died at the cincinnati children's medical hospital carmody died at cincinnati children's hospital medical center in january Her mother is 41 years old, pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in March, sentenced to nine years in prison, but could serve up to 13 years. According to the Enquirer, the Cincinnati Enquirer, they fed her mostly Mountain Dew mixed with baby formula, which led to all of her teeth rotting because of too much sugar.
Carmody then developed diabetes complications leading up leading to a brain injury and causing her death. Again, seems pretty much like common sense that you would mix formula with maybe somebody uses milk, right? Like, is it milk that you mix that with? There's water.
I think it's water. I could be wrong.
Okay. So maybe you fuck up and do milk right like is it milk that you mix that with there's water i think it's water i could be wrong okay so maybe you fuck up and do milk right like accident that seems like a logical fuck up all right like babies eat babies drink milk got it okay mountain dew was this like pick your liquid of choice was it like what well also a four-year-old on formula is crazy because formula is expensive

yeah like it's so expensive is that even normal i did um i actually didn't edit the video yet but i did like a target run where i was getting like diapers and wipes for the twins and i will tell you right now what i pay for a small can i'm not talking i've fucking ordered it before that shit It is insane.

Corey just does something.

Mm-hmm.

Over $50 for the bigger can it's like 53 or something and then the smaller cans are 31.99 so we went to the grocery store the other day and cory was like we're walking out you know how like now behind the registers is where they have like locked up all the formula. And it's like not on shelves.
And we walk past and he's like, isn't that so crazy that like formula has to get locked up now? I said, where the fuck have you been? Formula's been getting locked up for literally years at this point. I said, but especially now.
And he's like, I don't understand like for what, like people are stealing it for why I said, did you look at the prices? So he goes he looks and he's like holy fuck that lasts like a month right I said no absolutely not I said I'm pretty sure kale goes through a big can in like two days the big can lasts me maybe three maybe like maybe one more I might get three days out of it but the little ones the $31.99 that lasts me two days no like no but the it's weird because one can't like the smaller can cost $31.99 and then the bigger one is like 50 something dollars so it's a $20 price difference but i only get a couple more bottles out of it it's not like i'm getting double. Right.
But even if I did, I mean,

one can's lasting four days, if that was the case. I just, he was so shocked.
And I'm like,

that lasts a month. Wow.

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When we go to Myrtle Beach, we're going to take like one, like a, like one store trip and be like, okay, this is what it costs to get the formula. Then baby food, the diapers.
I actually just got, um, a baby gift for someone in the diapers. It was like, I was like, what count should I even get for them? Because I don't't know what they have what they don't have and then also the price is crazy no it's wild and it's funny because like one of my favorite gifts to give because of you is diapers and he was like that's the worst gift in the world like why would you ever give somebody diapers said do you know how expensive diapers are he's like well you don't even know what size I said you can get any size and they either grow into them and they have that size or they can take it exchange it for a different fucking size and not have to pay for damn diapers i'm like i don't understand like my mom we were my mom and i were talking about it not that long ago and she was like why do you think people were like cloth diapering and i was like you know i commend them like I love to budget.
I am not fucking doing this. It sounds good in theory, right? Like, because it's, like, better for the environment.
It's more cost effective. But when you, if you don't, here's my thing.
And I hope maybe some people in this group can give us, like, insight on it. One of my cousins cloth diapered.
I had a friend cloth diaper when I had Isaac and she was a full time at home mom. She did nothing else.
No disrespect to her by any stretch of the imagination. She just was able to dedicate that time.
So she was able to spray the diapers down because when they poop, you have to spray them down. I think she might've had a bidet where my cousin, she had a full-time nanny.
So the full-time nanny was able to dedicate extra time, like the time that my cousin didn't have to spray the diapers down and do all that and was able to wash. Now thinking about it, could I have done it now looking back? Yeah, maybe for one, but with Rio and the twins in diapers right now, absolutely not.
There's no way I would get them done, the cloth diapers done. Also, I i don't have a bidet i think it would be easier to spray into a toilet to like rinse them off that makes sense so like plush poop and stuff yeah so like that makes more sense to me um the cloth they bring sound it might be i might actually try it just to see what happens on who on ria yeah i was gonna say don't fucking do that to yourself with the twins you'll call me crying no yeah i well i feel bad for valley's got a little bit of diaper rash i feel like she's the only one that gets diaper rash so maybe i should try it on her maybe do you like good for that what's like a good time frame to like try something like that out like a like is a week

too little you think or i was thinking like one day like i said a week what uh one day i would do just try because i mean so you're gonna take us on a journey you're to take us on a journey of cloth diapering Valley.

Yeah.

Like maybe I'll just,

let me order one on Amazon and then I'll circle back and like,

let you guys know about it.

Yeah.

I'm genuinely,

I want to see a TikTok video on it.

Honestly.

If you have a baby, if you ever just decide to have one,

whether you adopt or not,

you could cloth diaper if it's doable.

With adoption.

Cloth. We've had this conversation.
I don't have, I don't care if I don't have like a baby baby. Like I would adopt an older kid.
Well, and that's, I asked the kids that I was like, Hey, like, what would you guys say about like adopting like a toddler or like, I mean, Lincoln was like, can you adopt one my age so we can play soccer? And I'm like, you literally have siblings for that. Like, no.
I was thinking more so like toddler and up. Yeah, basically that's where I'm at.
Don't quote me on this. Maybe someone else could also give insight on this.
Those are the children that need homes. Like they're the ones that need, because people want babies.
They want from infants from infants to adult right like i would be dad we should just go on an adoption journey i just like i was so intrigued by the whole thing i also who we should each get siblings so that they can stay together oh my god it's it's very i actually need to revisit this topic for you because he like changed from it being a foreign concept to like, he thinks that he would be open to it if we exhausted all options of like trying to have our own first, where I'm like, if I had it my way, I would have rather adopted first than like, I don't know why it just growing up. I always was like, there are so many kids that are already here that need homes why the fuck would i go and have one it just never felt foreign to me at all yeah um and i'm talking like as a little kid like i'm like eight nine was when i first started like talking to my mom and dad about like oh i'm gonna adopt a kid one day and like it was like very normal and like it's so when that's why I was so shocked when Corey was like huh like what about adoption but I he wants I think what he I think he just wants the whole experience right I think he wants the whole experience of like pregnancy and you get to go to the ultrasounds and you get to see the baby grow and then you have a baby and all these things right right so I think he I think that's what he wants and I don't discredit him for wanting that that's just not something those are not the things that I care about right like and I say that now obviously if I were to get pregnant I'm going to be happy and like do these things right but like knowing myself those aren't the things that I and like that I have like an emphasis on I don't care if I never feel and experience what pregnancy is I absolutely don't care if I never experience birthing a fucking child I like past that don't care I've had enough for the both of us exactly like you've done it so many times you tell me all the things I know about every single one of your births.
You basically experienced it. Yeah, that's how I feel.
Like I was there in spirit and, you know, like we're good. I got to hear all about your ultrasounds.
I got to see all your ultrasounds. That's enough for me.
And like, I'm like, okay. Like I also think that older kids are easier to manage as far as like time goes, right? Because they're not as needy.
Like I watch how your life changes, and my friend's life lives change when they go from being needed every single waking minute of every single day for like a baby, an infant, whatever. And then they hit toddler era.
And like, yeah, of course, there's different struggles that come with that that I've seen but like as far as ease of like just managing that always looked like the more fun part like I think it's it's interesting because there are some parents that don't that they they just like certain stages better than others and I feel like like with every, every phase of my own personal life, I've liked different phases of my kids. Right.
But I get what you're saying. Like I wholeheartedly, I'll support whatever you want.
You want to have your own baby. Great.
You want to go IVF. Great.
If you don't great. If you want to adopt foster, whatever, if you are looking into adoption, I'll also look into adoption or foster to adopt.
If they're looking for family members to stay together, I would go on that journey with you and help keep family.

That would be really cool though. Even if they were cousins or anything that we could keep together because that kills me.
Remember when that whole, I think I talked about it with the,

I mean, it might've been Lindsay, the mom that gave her kids up for c to cps i would have taken temporary guardianship of them if i knew about it beforehand because i would want them to stay together we don't know if they ever stayed together we don't know right well and the way that i think about it is i see a lot of people like have um aversions to They have concerns. And it's not, I'm not saying that I'm going into it.
I would be going into it blindly. I know, like we know the statistics.
We know what those challenges that those kids might face, right? Like we know that. Their backgrounds are different.
That's typically why older kids are up for adoption anyway. So it's not like I'd be going into it blindly, but my whole point is always like, you don't know how your own would even turn out.
So you're prejudging adoption and already turning it off as an option for you. I will say that I know financially it's expensive.
It's not cheap to adopt. And that confuses the fuck out of me.
So if someone could explain it, that'd be great. I think it's like lawyer fees and things, if I'm not mistaken.
And then if you, if I'm not mistaken, and then if you go through like an agency, it's like an agency situation. That's why I think it's typically easier to adopt from other countries because I think you, it's just different I would love insight on this so if you guys want to leave all the feedback all the information um even for fostering like I would love that too so just let us know like give us give us the 411 um in the meantime I brought you some something that you haven't done in a long time.
I can't wait.

I can't fucking wait.

I ordered the cloth diapers, by the way.

Oh, thank God.

I can't wait to see this TikTok.

I have some dating things, okay?

Okay.

That I brought.

We're going to call this, we're cleaning up some submissions here.

We're cleaning up.

This one is titled, Crying at Taco Bell. Okay.
We we love that i cried at taco bell once

oh me too i was drunk though oh i was getting cheated on anyway at taco bell correct wait we're gonna hear your story my ex worked um joe um joe worked the night shift at taco bell i don't you can leave all this in i don't care he'll i'm sure he would admit it um and i was pregnant and he was cheating on me with the 25 at the time 25 year old manager named soli and um he would get dressed and say that he was going to work but he actually went to the movies with soli and like on the day of my baby shower he came home at like 6 30 in the morning and because he was out with soli back up how old was he 18 okay because i was like that sounds like statutory rape is what it's but like if he wasn't 18 i mean even him anything that's like teen and 20s i feel like is wrong so like it was and it was especially weird because like she was the older one and boys are already more immature than women 1000 that thousand percent. That sounds really icky.

And when I think about it, like my worst ex ever, I started dating him at 17.

He was turning 21.

So it's probably not a good.

I mean.

It was.

Maturely.

There's a lot more experience there that I didn't even part of the experience, you know?

Correct.

Okay.

Okay.

So now crying at Taco Bell. Right.
So we're going to hear about why this person's crying at taco bell I need a shirt that says crying at taco bell I'm writing that down actually also turtle lovers thank you that's for book club though um okay this person says I went on a first date once with a guy to the movies. Right off bat he tried to get me to take a lap nap if you know what i mean which i said no thank you to after the movie he suggested dinner it was pretty late so we just went through the taco bell drive-thru which i'm always cool with it was raining really hard and we sat in my car eating our food and talking our conversation took a sharp left turn somewhere and he ended up trauma dumping on me so bad that he started crying.
I'm not making fun of him for crying, but it was 10 out of 10, the worst timing and situation to physically and emotionally trap me in, in my own car. Yeah, because she's got to have diarrhea.
She's like holding on to your life. I just wanted to eat my crunch wrap in peace and move on with my life because he wasn't really my vibe from the get-go.
The crying went on for nearly an hour. No.
No. I was trying to turn every frown upside down, but it wasn't working.
Who wrote this? We love her. I just wanted to drop him without being a jerk in the middle of his mentee b what i like to call a mental breakdown finally he dried his eyes and i left him on his driveway he immediately texted me about what a great time he had and i absolutely never replied imagine you're like trying to like chew through this i thought i thought this was going in a different direction i thought she was going to be like holding on for dear life with bubble guts and like she was listening to him sob that's what i thought this was so i mean good for her but um crying at taco bell is fantastic i can't we're gonna do next one this one is titled horror horror dating stories say my name Oh, long name after my divorce was final i eventually got brave and put myself out there on the dating apps i met a local guy a cute single dad and we really hit it off but his name was the same name as my ex-husband's he went by the full length name and my ex-husband goes by the short inversion i let it go kinda even though it was But before I knew it, we were hooking up nearly every single night of the week on every single surface of my house.
Girl, this guy knew what he was doing. I love that.
Throwing it down. After a couple months, we had the condom break multiple times, but he said he was snipped and I was on the pill, so we went for it.
It was all going great. Until I looked at his TikTok account, he only followed four or five people and I clicked on a girl's profile.
Immediately I'm slapped with brand new TikToks of the two of them together clearly in a relationship. I immediately messaged the girl through TikTok and said, please message me.
I think we're seeing the same guy. She messaged me and we both spilled all of his lies and tea, including that I just found out he had multiple charges for DV and restraining orders.
She said they were engaged and looking at wedding venues. She then starts sending me screenshots of what he was saying to her that of course I was the crazy liar.
He was sending her fake screenshots pretending he was texting me. She of course believed him.
I told her good luck with that piece of shit because I was done and she could have him. The icing on the cake, her and I have the same first name.
What the actual fuck? While I was weirded out that I was with a guy with technically the same name as my ex-husband, he's sleeping with a girl with my same exact name. And of course, not a week went by before he was back in my DMs begging to have me back.
Yeah, fucking right. He's still a friend request me time to time and all while he's in new committed relationships., moral of the story, don't get into situationships with people with the same name as your ex.
And don't trust that he's not having unprotected sex with other girls, just because he's at your house every night of the week. Fast forward a few years later, I just made things official with an amazing guy.
And no, he does not have the same name as my ex husband. Thank God.
And it's always the ones that will call you like crazy and a liar and downplay things and make you look like you're fucking batshit crazy no but also that leads me to my question that i've asked you before and you know why how the fuck do they have the time to be at someone's house every fucking day because fucking other people this is the way it goes if this is the breadcrumbing lighten me it's the breadcrumbing so they will have you they have everybody where they want them at all times so and they also get every single person that they're fucking used to these very specific habits of the breadcrumbing so that the girl each girl thinks it's normal right like or each even if they don't think it's normal they go along with it right so like the person that i'm thinking of in particular had three regulars and then added some sprinkles in a lot of the time right so when fighting with me and we were on the offs for a week two weeks he, he was rotating between these two when it was convenient. And if he was with this one for three days, then this one, they might not have been fighting, but she was so used to him disappearing for three days and coming back or whatever.
It's very seldom or sprinkling in some conversation. And then when this one would be fighting with him,

then he'd come back to me and then sprinkle in the,

you know what I mean?

So like they get very easy.

All three in the same day.

Typically no, from what I've noticed,

it would be like when we were on the outs or like,

he'd be like, oh, I'm going back home.

Well, back home,

then you were going to go be with her for several days.

And so, yes, it would be like,

you're with me every day for maybe two or three weeks at a time.

But then because so-and-so would go back home to me,

Thank you. then you were going to go be with her for several days.
And so, yes, it would be like, you're with me every day for maybe two or three weeks at a time. But then because so-and-so would go back home to New York and the other girl was in Wilmington and then I'm here in Dover.
So it was convenient for you to, it would make sense to them. They're back home and you're with me for three weeks.
It makes sense. Oh, now you're going to go back home to go visit your family in Wilmington.
So you're going to go up there. You know what I mean? So it was like kind of like you were with me for three weeks.
You were staying with me for weeks at a time. And so it makes you think that you're the only one and then you're not.
That's a really well thought out plan when you really actually think about that. It just takes so much fucking work.
Like I, there was a time once upon a time that I would have a rotation and a roster. You know what I mean? And it was just so much work that I, it wasn't worth it.
I mean, what do you mean? I thought you were a time that I had a rotation and a roster you know what I mean and it was just so much work that I it wasn't worth it I mean what do you mean I thought you were a virgin I mean I am I'm gonna give you one more can't wait let's see what we have here this one says crazy dating story married men and predatory mayhem receipts attached oh i love when receipts are attached this is so good hello hello hello hope everyone is well and living their absolutely best life you asked for crazy dating stories and i'm here to spill some tea my name is sydney yes you can use my name and back in 2017 i was finishing up my last year of undergrad at humboldt state in northern california is now a Cal Poly, but wasn't when I went there. I was a little late to the college game.
So at the time I was 27. I also worked for the housing department as a resident advisor.
So I lived in a building with all the freshmen. Coupled with this school being in a small town, it's not an exaggeration when I say the dating scene sucked donkey balls.
Love that. Trying to make the best of it, I scurried off to the dating apps and just wiped my little heart away.
I matched with a guy. We can call him Brandon because that's his name.
And to this day, I stand by the fact that Brandon can fuck off. You know what? We can call him Brandon.
That's his name. Brandon, you can fuck off.
Sincerely, all of us. Sincerely, a really famous podcast.
Yes. So after matching, Brandon hit me up and starts with, All the one-liners his single brain cell knows.
Wow, I love this girl. They aren't anything spectacular, but I was bored, he was cute, and I was trying to get it in.
So I played along. After a few days of talking, he asked if we could hang out.
So I agreed to meet him in a public place and get a vibe check. We hit it off.
We talked, laughed, smoked a J and made out a little. Love that.
When the subject turned to hooking up, he made a million reasons about why we couldn't go back to his place. And I wasn't really trying to hook up in a dorm room.
So we both left that date disappointed. Over the next couple days, he kept texting me all kinds of dirty messages about the things he wanted to do to me.
And when I would tell him I'll be over when he's ready, the excuses would start again. I finally decided to listen to all the red flags and look him up on Facebook.
And you probably guessed, immediately found his wife. I didn't actually guess that.
I thought maybe girlfriend, not wife. I guess.
This is where things take a turn. I messaged this woman with the intent to let her know that her husband had been trying to sleep with me.
And she replied letting me know that she knew all about me. She helped him pick me out.
And that it was all supposed to be fun and games. But I got nosy.
When I tell you I was shook, I'm all for you living whatever lifestyle you want. But that all comes with consent.
And I had no consensual part of this. And at no point did he say anything about being in an open marriage.
I 100% felt preyed upon and targeted. Needless to say, I told him to fuck all the way off, block them both and immediately told every person I knew in the area who was single, what had just happened so they wouldn't fall for this shit if they matched with him.
I'm so thankful I to my gut and did not sleep with this man it's been 6.5 years since that happened and although i immediately turned off to all the dating apps i eventually found my way back to them and met my husband on hinge we've been together three years and it is disgustingly stupid how much i love this man i guess the moral of the story is love out there is somewhere but i always listen to your gut in the meantime p.s. I've attached a screenshot of the message to his wife as well as a photo of me and my husband stay petty and have a great day stay petty and have a great day I love you we love wait what's her name Sydney her name's Sydney we love her so much we stand Sydney I just I miss the dating profiles and segments so bad I had had to bring it back, you know? Yeah, you had to, we had to bring it back.
I also am wondering, you know, what's weird when I messaged one of the girls that that happened to me with like the situation, which time it was like, Oh, the response was very similar. Like she was like, yeah, I know all about this already.
Like, do you want a cookie? And it's just like, that's great. She said that to me.
She literally said that, do you want a cookie? And I'm like, how old are we? Like we're literally in our twenties, late twenties at that. And you're talking about, do I want a cookie? Like grow up.
Specifically, I'm a cheesecake factory actually, but thank you. Specifically, give me an ice cream sandwich.
Like, I don't know. Um, but I was frustrated because I'm like, that's all great and good that y'all both know what you're doing.
And then I didn't, and I didn't consent to this. And that's huge.
Like I did not ask to be played. Like, it's cool that you're good with it, but like, I, I'm not a vinyl record to be played.
I don't actually know what I would do if like that was happening to me and then I find out that he's in an open fucking marriage I don't know what I would do well I think at that point you're like you feel stupid right like you feel dumb because it's like okay had I known I would have been able to make the decision by myself but then you feel dumb because you're like I'm the only one who didn't fucking know yeah also you didn't if you're in an open marriage why not say that like why not be like we're looking for a third or something because one time I like was playing two people and I told one of them that I was not like how do I explain that I was not I was like one of them I was like oh no like he knows like I'm like it's fine because then if he thought that he knew he wasn't gonna go tell him like I'm no fucking dummy but now that I've done both you can't play if you can't you can't bullshit a bullshitter and i didn't consent to this so it's not funny i mean don't give me a taste of my own medicine because i don't fucking like that shit absolutely not no but that is so funny i love that we were able to podcast and get an update and we're gonna circle back on one of these fucking podcasts whether it's coffee combos or barely famous i will be watching the gypsy rose show so i will be watching oh i want to watch it i believe it airs next week i saw a thing for it i want to watch it too so that will be something that if lindsey and i don't talk about it i will 100 talk about it on here if you guys haven't already joined the barely famous official facebook group join that also chapter 7 book club is a real thing we're inspiring people every day to get on their reading journey including kristin um we fucking love turtles and um if anyone wants to join that it's exclusive to patreon we do talk a little bit about reading in the facebook group but also there is a specific group on patreon or a specific collection on patreon for book club and um don't forget to follow and subscribe on your favorite podcast app go follow

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