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Speaker 4 Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird.

Speaker 4 It's your fae villain, Kale Rower.

Speaker 4 And you're listening to Barely Famous.

Speaker 4 Hello, motherfuckers. It is another solo episode of Kale in the Chaos.
And I literally just walked in from baseball.

Speaker 4 So I will be drinking out of Lux's water cup because I ran out and I literally walked in from baseball and was like, fuck, I have to record for tomorrow's episode. So it is now 8:37 p.m.

Speaker 4 Let's catch up. So, this past week,

Speaker 4 I have read The Women by Kristen Hanna.

Speaker 4 We have had baseball two days this week, and we'll have basketball two days this week. So, the only day off that we had so far is Monday.

Speaker 4 I went on a field trip with Creed today, and I have to tell y'all, we went to a beach, like a local beach for the field trip to collect like rocks and seashells and seahorseshoe crabs.

Speaker 4 And let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 The way that I needed

Speaker 4 an oxygen tank to make it through that workout of a field trip was crazy. So caught up with bone afterwards, went to the gym for the first time in probably three months.

Speaker 4 And I almost didn't go because I went to the beach and I was walking on the sand and I was like, does this count as workout? Because I don't know if I can take it.

Speaker 4 So then I get out of that, I go get the kids kids from school. And then I'm like, oh my God, we have baseball.

Speaker 4 And the whole time I have baseball, I'm like, my knees are going to give out at any point, right? Like, I need to go to the gym more often so that I don't feel like this. But also,

Speaker 4 my life is so unhinged. So I

Speaker 4 ended up getting two gym memberships. And I know that sounds crazy, but the way the Delaware is set up, there's like not a Planet Fitness where I normally go.
But then Creed School is in another town.

Speaker 4 And so I'm like, okay, but on certain days, it would be more convenient for me to work out by creed school. And then on certain days, it would be,

Speaker 4 thankfully,

Speaker 4 Planet Fitness is $10 a month or 15, whatever. It's like pretty affordable.
So I can't really, I don't have an excuse there.

Speaker 4 And then the other one that's like in the other town, I ended up doing just like a six-month pay up front thing for the, for the membership because I was like,

Speaker 4 I can't make excuses anymore. Listen to me when I tell you I want to get a boob job, right? So I call around.
I'm like making these consultations to get a boob job. You know what they told me?

Speaker 4 They told me I need to lose 40 pounds. Okay.
So 40 or 50 pounds,

Speaker 4 more like 50, but maybe could get away with 40 pounds before they can even operate on me. So that was extremely humbling.
And I didn't sign up for that on a Wednesday in the middle of the day.

Speaker 4 Cause I was like, oh, like I've been wanting to do this breast reduction. I've been wanting to

Speaker 4 do a reduction.

Speaker 4 implants lift whatever whatever it is because right like i want to do that and she was like, Do you still want to schedule this? And I was like, Oh my God. And I'm literally sobbing already.

Speaker 4 Like, I've already, the waterworks have started. Cause I'm like, wow, that was really humbling.
I didn't realize. I said, we'll still make the consultation because

Speaker 4 I need to know what I'm expecting to pay for. Like, I have to know what I'm budgeting for.
I have to know how long I can save.

Speaker 4 How, like, realistically speaking, how long is it going to take me to lose 40 pounds? So, I say all that to say,

Speaker 4 if

Speaker 4 you are looking to schedule a cosmetic procedure, your BMI cannot be over at whatever it is. Like these two surgeons that I specifically was like vetting for a long time and scheduled with or

Speaker 4 went to schedule with one. They were booking out in July.
Now they're not booking out until December. I was like, never mind, don't want to wait.
Called another one.

Speaker 4 Was like, oh, but yeah, we have like some in July, but you cannot. So anyways,

Speaker 4 don't call on a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 Don't call in the middle of the workday because they will tell you on the phone based on your height and weight, your current height and weight, if they will be able to operate on you. And

Speaker 4 they won't be able to operate on me. So, I start crying, and I know that she can tell that I'm crying, but she's like not saying anything.
But, like, I'm like trying to answer all her questions.

Speaker 4 So, that was kind of unhinged, and I just didn't plan for that. And I wasn't in the right headspace.

Speaker 4 And so, if you're wanting to get cosmetic surgery, this is what I was trying to say when I like lost my train of thought: is

Speaker 4 before you start calling for consultations, make sure you're in the right headspace because if you're not, you will be humbled by the fact that they may not be able to operate on you. So, that's that.

Speaker 4 I don't even know if I can get like my double chin done.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 and truthfully, I would just want to do that at the same time as my boob job because I'm like, why not? Why would I pay for anesthesia twice? Right. So, probably can't get that done for a long time.

Speaker 4 That's like a

Speaker 4 genetics thing. It's not just me being overweight.
It's like even the skinny people, skinny women in my family have it. So, it's like kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 And then I need to talk about this book that I'm reading because this is never,

Speaker 4 I was never interested in like history. Like that just like wasn't my

Speaker 4 subject of choice, right? And so my sister's book club pick, I know not everyone here that's listening to Barely Fucking Famous is a book girly, like, right? I get it.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 The Women by Kristen Hanna is

Speaker 4 one of the most eye-opening books that I've ever read slash listened to because I'm doing both. Spending a lot of time in the car between driving to baseball and basketball.
And

Speaker 4 the beach field trip was like an hour, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, so I'm doing both, right? First of all,

Speaker 4 are those big ducks?

Speaker 4 The audio on it is fantastic.

Speaker 4 So if you're looking for an audiobook, um, that you are, you have time to listen to, it is, I think the entire, if you're not reading it, like the physical copy of the book and you're just reading it.

Speaker 4 I mean, you're just listening to it, it's like 14 or 15 hours. But if you are doing a combination like me, it's very good on audio.
It's very good to read in person.

Speaker 4 You fly through the pages because it's so, I mean, I loved it. It's historical fiction that takes place like during the Vietnam War.
And also,

Speaker 4 I think in the book where I'm at right now, it's like 1972. I think it started in like 68, maybe, like 1968.

Speaker 4 But long story short, is like I never would have pictured myself getting into historical fiction, but the eye-opening themes and events that took place during this time was absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 And I could have never guessed. I also think that it's really interesting that in the book, you're talking about how like you don't talk about your pain regardless of what it is.

Speaker 4 Like it doesn't matter if it's you lost a child, you went to a war, you have PTSD, you are having just any types of feelings, you shut up and you push it down and you forget and you move on and you don't talk about it.

Speaker 4 And I thought that was really interesting because

Speaker 4 towards the middle-ish to the end, um,

Speaker 4 the main character, Frankie, she's talking about, um,

Speaker 4 you know, it's it's 19, I think she says, like, it's 1972 or something. Like, um, I don't have to be married to have sex, I don't have to push my feelings down.

Speaker 4 Like, they're starting to come around to the idea of PTSD. That's where I'm at in the book.
It's like PTSD is like starting to get recognized.

Speaker 4 Today, we talk about it, and we talk about things like this all the time. And we hear people overuse and misuse and misinterpret and

Speaker 4 talk about these things. Like, we over talk about it.
And so, it's really interesting to see, to

Speaker 4 read, I guess, like where we started to where we are now. And so, I thought that was interesting.
I also, I'm going to my Discord appointment tomorrow. I, now that I'm a gym girly,

Speaker 4 I went for one day. Now that that I'm a gym girly, I'm concerned about going to the gym on Saturday.
But if I don't go to the gym on Saturday, I might never go again.

Speaker 4 So I only went today for the first time since March. Literally, have not seen Bone since March because the last time I saw Bone, we went to the

Speaker 4 we went to the gym. Um, and so I'm hoping to

Speaker 4 make a consistent routine. I don't know, I'm scared.
So, Lincoln wants to try raising canes.

Speaker 4 He has been dying, he's been peer pressuring me to try raising canes, and so so I think we're going to try to go tomorrow if we can find one that's like semi-nearby. Delaware has like nothing.

Speaker 4 Or if you, if we have it, you have to drive an hour plus for it. I don't even get my Disport in Delaware.
I get it in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 So I'll meet Kristen for that because she goes to the same place as me. We schedule our appointments together so that we can meet because it's like two hours from me, an hour from her kind of thing.

Speaker 4 Which doesn't really make sense because she also lives two hours from me. So I guess it's like really not me.

Speaker 4 It's not really convenient, but it's fine because I get to see her, so it's whatever. But, um,

Speaker 4 so that's that, and then we have a baseball game on Saturday, and then we're filming book club on Sunday. So, if anyone wants to join book club, Isaac also

Speaker 4 launched his ASL sort of vibe,

Speaker 4 he's really wanting to do ASL as like his career, so he started posting some ASL stuff on his own Instagram, which is so

Speaker 4 it feels so fucking surreal to have a teenage son that is old enough to like post their own content on social media and i would be lying if i said that i wasn't nervous um he's 14 and a half literally like

Speaker 4 this month he's like 14 a half whatever and i'm like

Speaker 4 i was definitely posting on like my space and saying that i actually think i was 14 when i got a facebook so i did it right and like i wasn't personally i know that it happens like i personally wasn't like getting into trouble with it and i know that isaac Isaac is like too smart for that, but I'm also, let me not say that.

Speaker 4 That's so fucking

Speaker 4 naive of me to say. Like, you think that they're too smart until something happens and, like, knock on wood.
I hope it doesn't happen. But, like, I do think that he is mature enough to have it.

Speaker 4 But I am like overseeing everything. I'm like, send me your content before you post it.
And then, also, like, I just want to double-check.

Speaker 4 Also, I'm like monitoring the comments because people are so fucking rude. Um,

Speaker 4 but he's handling it really well, and it's just for fun which i think is i'm hoping is how it stays i don't want this to be like like a job for him i don't want it to be like

Speaker 4 i don't know and it just like makes me nervous and i don't want him to

Speaker 4 i want to monitor it so that he is not associating his

Speaker 4 his

Speaker 4 um competence and his

Speaker 4 Self-esteem is not based on likes or views on social media because that definitely makes me nervous.

Speaker 4 I hope that he's proud of himself, regardless, because I think the amount that he's learned for ASL in a short year has

Speaker 4 is really impressive, at least to me. I'm not, I'm not super, I couldn't do it.
Like, I don't, I, it just, the retention isn't there for me.

Speaker 4 I also don't know that I would, I don't know that I would have the um, what is it called? Attention span for it. So I'm proud of him.
And I literally sobbed.

Speaker 4 Like when he sent me the first video that he was going to post, I like cried because I was like, I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 4 And I was very worried about him because he didn't want to go to college, which is fine.

Speaker 4 But I was also worried because I felt like he felt lost. And I think that that's really common in teenagers.
Like, we don't have to figure out what the fuck we want to do.

Speaker 4 Like, there are 30-year-olds who are still trying to figure it out. And that's okay.
Like, I don't even know. Like, am I going to be podcasting forever? Who knows?

Speaker 4 But when I'm 40, it's very possible that I could change career paths and like do something in corporate or like go into.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Like, there's just so many options that they don't expect him to have it figured out.

Speaker 4 But I also didn't want him to feel lost, and so I really love that he's doing that, even if it's just a hobby and he never truly pursues it and it's a hobby, like that's fine.

Speaker 4 I think that there are so

Speaker 4 many people who could benefit from, or like, maybe be inspired. Like, maybe people don't know that there's career paths in ASL and that interpreters are desperately needed.

Speaker 4 Like, I don't know, maybe he'll create a community of you know, hearing people that want to help

Speaker 4 you know

Speaker 4 hard of hearing and I think it's called CODA,

Speaker 4 um, C-O-D-A, and

Speaker 4 non-verbal people. Like,

Speaker 4 I hope, you know, I don't know. That could be cool.

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Speaker 4 So, that's that. And then, as far as sports, we're just like taking this summer off of sports because it's just a lot.
You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 4 travel ball is a lot. I was a little irritated yesterday because I had to drive.
We

Speaker 4 know that we sacrifice what we do for the kids to play sports or whatever, right? So

Speaker 4 that's great, but there was like a change in Lincoln's schedule for travel ball. And I was like, okay, so we're driving an hour to practice for an hour.

Speaker 4 Normally, practice is like an hour and a half to two hours, but they changed locations. And it was like driving an hour to practice practice for and I was just like, We're spending two

Speaker 4 hours in the car round trip, and then people also like come from Pennsylvania, so there are kids on the team that are not just from Delaware.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, This is a little bit much, but I didn't say that to Lincoln, like, I'm just like saying that to Kristen or like saying it to you guys on here and venting or whatever.

Speaker 4 But, um, I'll be looking forward to the little break over the summer to like hang out.

Speaker 4 I was looking on Amazon earlier, Kristen had this idea of like doing like an inflatable like movie projector thing outside. And I thought that could be a cute little idea.

Speaker 4 So I was like, gonna look at that and see what's going on.

Speaker 4 And then the kid, the boys have like a birthday party to go to on Sunday, and things are just like thinging, you know, like they're lifing. Life is lifing.

Speaker 4 And Elijah is almost done with the, I think it's called a lean in. Like, maybe you guys that are farmers on here, familiar with farming, farm chores, all the things.

Speaker 4 I,

Speaker 4 there is a farm that

Speaker 4 has 36 kids, right? And by kids, I mean goats. And so they were like, they are in need of a home.
And I'm like, oh my God. And so we, he already built a goat home.
Like, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 I come home and here goes the goat thing. I'll tell you what.
These fucking ducks are messy. They're dirty.
They're dirty. They are fucking dirty.
And just get your pond.

Speaker 4 If you get ducks and you have a water source, like get them a filter sort of thing, because also

Speaker 4 they're fucking dirty. So, I had a text from somebody went to somebody I grew up with, and she said, Did you know that they have shoe heaters so that they can take the wetness out of your shoes?

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 Um, I don't know if anyone here listens to coffee combos. I think it was coffee combos.
Creed had left his cleats out in the rain, and I was trying to figure out how to dry them, like

Speaker 4 accelerate the drying process if you will and nothing was really helping and so elijah had put like the um industrial fan like pointed on them or whatever and then that didn't really work and then i had put them in the dryer and put the laces outside i had talked about the sun coffee combos and then you run the dryer so like the heat and the steam or whatever like dries them that's great and good and it might work but it didn't work in time

Speaker 4 So I was freaking out. And then yesterday we were looking for Creed's muck, not Creed's, we were looking for Lux's muck boots, yeah, like his extra tufts, and of course, he left them out in the rain.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 we're just having ourselves a time with wet shoes and wet boots, and

Speaker 4 I don't know. That's just what it's that's what we're doing.
But I wanted to tell you guys about the Jolly Parton free book club that there is for kids.

Speaker 4 I know for when I had Rio and the twins at the hospital, we were having

Speaker 4 them at, there's like you can sign up for Jolly Barton's free book club there. So, if you guys are interested, you guys can go do this.
I'm gonna post the link so you guys have it.

Speaker 4 But I thought it was really cool because we get free books in the mail all the time for the kids who like children's books, which is really nice.

Speaker 4 And if anyone else is like me and is trying to read more to their kids, I just

Speaker 4 read a lot to the older kids and then the middle kids, I just like didn't read as much. But Creed loves fucking books, like Creed is

Speaker 4 loves them. Rio loves them, Rio is Lux.
I would say probably Creed and Rio are my two biggest readers.

Speaker 4 Um, and then like interested, I mean, not like reading books, but um, I wish that I had done more with Lux because I feel like now, like, I'm we're starting to feel the effects of like not reading um as much as I should have.

Speaker 4 And, um, and so, anyway, I say all that to say that we are trying to get back into that. And so, you guys can sign up for this, it's free.
Like I said, I'll post the link.

Speaker 4 Um, and then then the other thing was, I am getting a lot of messages about the sleep consultant that I used for Creed whenever he was learning how to sleep.

Speaker 4 And, like, I wouldn't call it sleep training because that's not what it is. It's just like

Speaker 4 Brittany gets you into a routine where the baby knows the cues. And I also wanted to talk about like the sleep wake windows for babies.

Speaker 4 I think a lot of parents don't know that there are so many cues that a baby is tired or getting tired. And once you miss those cues and those signs that they're tired, now their cortisol shoots up.

Speaker 4 So if you don't know, the cortisol hormone is like the stress hormone, I think it's called.

Speaker 4 And so it is going to prevent your baby from sleeping, which then leads to like the crying and the overcrying. And now you're frustrated, the baby's frustrated, and nobody's, nobody's sleeping, right?

Speaker 4 And so I really think that they should focus on teaching mothers, first-time mothers, and even second and third-time mothers, truly, because I didn't know this until my fourth kid, right?

Speaker 4 Like, I had no idea that there were sleep wake windows, and you could even Google like sleep wake windows for whatever six months, nine months, whatever, and it'll tell you like how long they should be awake before they should have a nap or like what the signs are to look for.

Speaker 4 And trying to get your baby, having a routine for your baby during those, um, like those cues, like, okay, you're the eyebrows being red right here, the yawns, they're rubbing their eyes.

Speaker 4 Like, you cannot, if you miss them, you're doing yourself and your baby a disservice, right? So, like, getting them into a rhythm, and like it sucks, right? Like, if you use

Speaker 4 a sleep consultant, it fucking sucks for like nap time specifically because the idea is like you want to get them into a routine so that you're recognizing the cues first and foremost, and you're not doing a disservice to your child.

Speaker 4 So, getting them into the routine really helps everything.

Speaker 4 And so, I say all this to say that that was something that I had to talk about for today, but look for the clues. Um, her name is Brittany Levine, and her Instagram

Speaker 4 is

Speaker 4 i believe it's baby sleep guide hold on yes at baby sleep guide her name is brittany and

Speaker 4 truthfully if you stick to what she says like you can't half ass it so if that means like you have to turn down plans for the first six months of your child's life or like the second six months of the first year of your baby's life like you're turning down stuff or you have to leave early or you have to get there there early um or get there late because of your baby's sleep i promise you it will save you in the long run so just keep that in mind i also did um a q a on instagram so we can go ahead and get into those um i know that people

Speaker 4 don't love when i post asking questions and then um don't answer them right away because i save them for the podcast so Let's get into

Speaker 4 how many books have you read so far this year? Oh, that's a great question. I would love to answer that for you.
When I started my reading journey last year, I only did like a handful of books, right?

Speaker 4 Because I didn't know what to expect. And then, so going into 2024, I was like, oh, I'll put my goal to 25 books.
That's like two books per month. And then I,

Speaker 4 it's May and I hit, I'm at 35 right now, 36 with the women. So I'm upped my goal to 75 for the year.
So right now I'm at 36 books for 2024.

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Speaker 4 I think her child's father maybe was named Forrest or something. I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 Anyway, became friends with her. Absolutely love her.
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Speaker 4 And I actually have plans to try that this year because I've heard good things about that one. And this is not an ad.
She did not pay me to say that. Thoughts on It Ends With Us trailer?

Speaker 4 I did not see the trailer because I have not read the book yet. So I don't want to see anything until then.

Speaker 4 Does Rio interact a lot with the twins? First of all, Rio is obsessed with his twin siblings and truthfully think that Valley and Rio are the twins. So it's like River Valley, but that would be cute.

Speaker 4 Like little, like River Valley. Oh, that's cute.

Speaker 4 Rio and Bally are the real twins, and then I don't know who Verse looks like. Vers and Valli are interacting a lot now, but Rio loves them, and I love actually, they, all my kids love each other.

Speaker 4 I mean, Lux and Creed definitely fight the most, but Rio interacts with the twins. Rio loves Lux and loves Lincoln, like the and Creed, but like loves them.

Speaker 4 Um, do you ever feel disconnected from Elisha because of busy life? I miss my husband. That's literally like the struggle right now.
Is

Speaker 4 I'm sure he's feeling it

Speaker 4 physically, and I'm feeling it just like in all aspects. I

Speaker 4 went to the baseball field with three of the kids today

Speaker 4 while Elijah had Isaac, took him to the barbershop for me, and then he had the babies. And normally, I would take the babies, not the babies, normally I would take Rio to the baseball field with me.

Speaker 4 But because there was two games at the same time and I had to be in two places, it just was going to be pure chaos. And it's, it's a lot.

Speaker 4 Like it's so, I will be so glad when we hit the summertime and we can just like kind of take things way easier.

Speaker 4 And I'm condensing my schedule as much as possible to try to only do whatever I have to do on the weeks that I do not have my kids so that when I have them, we can all be together as a family.

Speaker 4 We can kind of do stuff. It's, it's hard.
And the twins are six months old and they still don't sleep through the night.

Speaker 4 So um that also has us a little bit on edge so we're not fighting but we're not seeing each other so i almost i almost would rather be like arguing but we don't even have time to argue because we don't see each other so that's that

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 when will you talk about what your family found out through 23and me um we'll probably talk about that soon like there will be more on that

Speaker 4 maybe this year maybe next year i'm not entirely sure on like the timeline, but it is coming. So

Speaker 4 patience is a virtue, and I'm, I'm still learning it myself. Um, just curious if the girl name you were never going to share is Valley or not.
Either, um, so beautiful, either way. No,

Speaker 4 that was not the name. The name was Navy, N-A-V-Y, and um,

Speaker 4 that was the name that we, not Elijah, um, that I,

Speaker 4 I'm like, I'm hesitant to say his name, but like Chris and I were gonna name, if we ever had a daughter, her name was gonna be Navy.

Speaker 4 And then the other name, when Javi and I had talked about other kids,

Speaker 4 was Amina. He was like, if I ever have a daughter named, I'm gonna name her Amina because we had met Amina when we went to Mirage Bootcamp.
And then I also liked Will Amina.

Speaker 4 And so I was like, hmm.

Speaker 4 But I felt like I couldn't use it because Javi and I like talked about Amina and then we also talked about Priscilla, which, okay, we don't have to get into that.

Speaker 4 But the name that i had for like since lux was conceived which was 2016

Speaker 4 2016 2016

Speaker 4 the end of 2016 um so like eight years was navy n-aby and i know that it

Speaker 4 here i will say like in the northeast is very uncommon I've never met a that I've never met a Navy, never, like, not a thing.

Speaker 4 And then the more time that went on, I was like, wow, it's like really rising in popularity. And then I had started to see it, especially in like the South.
I had seen Navy everywhere.

Speaker 4 And so, um, but Navy was

Speaker 4 was my girl's name, like N-A-B-Y, obsessed, was never gonna, like, I, and then I felt weird.

Speaker 4 Like, when I found out that I was having a girl, it's just like, I can't use a name that I previously had with somebody, I can't use that. So, um, I have another girl's name.

Speaker 4 If I was to ever like adopt or anything, there's one, it's not, it's not super common, but it's also not like on completely unheard of.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's sort of like Valley's name, like they're not like super weird and different, they're just not super common. So, if I ever were to have another one, I would definitely use.

Speaker 4 I even thought about changing Valley's name to like this name, and then Valley's her middle name, just because I want to use both, and I feel like her middle name doesn't fit her.

Speaker 4 Um, and I already was like, Eliash, I think we should change it, like, it just doesn't, it's not the vibe, but then time is passing. And I'm like, I'm

Speaker 4 like, no.

Speaker 4 How comes the triplets don't have their dad's last name? Well,

Speaker 4 they basically are triplets. Why don't they have their dad's last name? Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 One of my biggest regrets in life was not giving Isaac my last name simply because I'm the one that carried him.

Speaker 4 I'm the one that, you know, like, it's just one of those things where we weren't married. We never got married.

Speaker 4 And I just feel like he

Speaker 4 should have been a Lowry. Like, why, why?

Speaker 4 Should a child automatically get their father's last name? Like, I don't understand that. And I am speaking from experience, experience, right? Like Lowry is my dad's.
Well,

Speaker 4 and I'll get into the whole last name thing because I'm not even a Lowry anyway. So it's like, I'm not a fucking Lowry anyway.

Speaker 4 So I'm, it's crazy because I'm like, if my mom would have just given me her fucking last name,

Speaker 4 everything would have been solved, right? Or changed my last name when they got divorced because I think the

Speaker 4 divorce was like an annulment or whatever.

Speaker 4 And then Chris's last name is his mom's last name, right? Like,

Speaker 4 I just feel the only one that I'm okay with is Maraquin because I was married to Javi and I hyphenated on social media, and so I was like, okay, like that's fine. Like, I saw it as forever, right?

Speaker 4 But, like,

Speaker 4 Isaac, first of all, Isaac Irwin,

Speaker 4 love it. That's my mom's last name.
Um, Isaac Irwin is like a brand, you know what I mean? Like, Isaac Irwin, what? Um,

Speaker 4 Isaac Lowry, I also think, or or even hyphenated. If I would have just hyphenated

Speaker 4 Isaac's last name, we were not married, whatever.

Speaker 4 And so then when I had Lux, I knew he was a Lopez, and then that whole thing happened. It was like, okay,

Speaker 4 this is not okay. And then

Speaker 4 I don't really have a reason other than like, I didn't want to have to go through the name change process. Not that I think I would with Elisha.

Speaker 4 Like, I think that I, Elisha and I just don't have a tumultuous, tumultuous relationship. And I can't honestly say that, like, if we were to split up, it would ever be tumultuous.

Speaker 4 Like, he's very even-keeled. He's like, very

Speaker 4 mellow. Like, not that he doesn't hold his ground or like stand his ground.
He just is not a fighter by nature. I think that he's just like

Speaker 4 humble, mellow,

Speaker 4 just even-tempered.

Speaker 4 So, them getting my last name just was like, okay, I wish that Isaac was, or at least hyphenated.

Speaker 4 I ended up, you know, changing Lux and Creed's last name, and then it just made sense for them to all match.

Speaker 4 So we all match, and you can love it, you can hate it, you can disagree with it, and that's fine. But this is, you know, my family, my, you know, and

Speaker 4 I, I just, I think that's the way that it should, should be, right? Like in my family, I think that we should have all matched, and I wish that Isaac matched us, or at least was hyphenated.

Speaker 4 So, would you consider adoption? I literally just said this to Elisha. I was like, because we talked about this on copy combos.

Speaker 4 His family are, they're not strangers to like foster care, adoption, and stuff like that. And it was like, would you ever want to do that?

Speaker 4 And, like, I never really saw myself as like open to it before. Like, I've thought about it, but not really thought, okay, well, we could do this.

Speaker 4 But I feel like now when the babies get a little bit older, I would definitely be open to it, especially now that, like, I'm done having kids and, you know,

Speaker 4 I would love for Valley to have like a little

Speaker 4 sister if we can help somebody have a home. So, I just don't know how that would go into play.
And I don't really feel like getting my heart broken over a child that I don't even have.

Speaker 4 So, it makes me nervous to even try the process of adoption or foster care because I don't know that they would even allow me to do that. And so, it's like, I don't know if I would be ready to

Speaker 4 put myself in a position to do that for them to tell me, okay, no, you can't.

Speaker 4 How could I join your book club? Patreon.com/slash Kale Lowry. And I think it's like five dollars a month but you get we do weekly giveaways

Speaker 4 um weekly lives weekly at pre-recorded drops and so it's like and then you get all the video for the podcast so it's i think it's a pretty good deal but i'm biased so have you gotten any new tattoos absolutely not absolutely not i still haven't finished um

Speaker 4 removing this one i would like to finish my forearms

Speaker 4 one that's like Buddha.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 that's a cover-up. I just don't have it in me.
My pain tolerance is not the same. I don't, I just don't care about them.
Like, I do, but I don't.

Speaker 4 I literally said to my girlfriend at baseball, I was like, I would love to get a book tattoo, especially like I want an octopus from Remarkably Bright Creatures because I loved that book so much.

Speaker 4 And then there are a couple others that I would really like from some of my favorite books, but I just don't have it in me.

Speaker 4 Like, I could, I may, I also feel feel like i kind of already went to all the spots that i would have tattooed i would definitely want to remove this because the straps like sit on it and then like you're like wait what does that say and so i and i don't like the font either um

Speaker 4 i would also like to get my own fucking books re-tattooed on my body so i don't know i just i don't have it in me i don't want to sit there for hours i also feel like every time i go into a tattoo shop even when

Speaker 4 You go in with a big piece, right? Like you're like, okay, I'm I'm going in. I'm going to start this like half sleeve or or whatever right

Speaker 4 drawn up they text it they email whatever and you approve the design the design's already done they're not drawing it up while you're there right this is like for like bigger pieces

Speaker 4 why does it still take two hours to even get started i don't have if i go in for a six hour session that means i have six hours from the time i get there to the time i leave i don't have two hours in me to sit there and wait for you to set up and then four hours possibly three hours from tattooing and then an hour of cleanup and getting the fuck out like i just don't have that in me.

Speaker 4 No shade or hate to the tattoo industry, by the way. Like, that's not what I was getting at.
Just like, I don't have the time.

Speaker 4 Hey, Kale, can you suggest any good murder mystery series to start and want to branch out? I would just say, start with Never Lie or the Housemaid series by Frida McFadden. Those are fantastic.

Speaker 4 You could also start with Home Is Where the Bodies Are. That's like a really fast.
Listen for the Lie is dark humor, which is really fun. And it's also a murder mystery, like Who Done It type of vibe.

Speaker 4 So if you're looking for a fast pace, I'd say,

Speaker 4 listen for the lie. That one's like dark humor.
And then there's Home is Where the Bodies Are, which is like super fast paced, but it's gripping. You're like, what the fuck is going on? And then

Speaker 4 Housemaid series by Freed McFadden. There's two of them out right now.
The third one comes out in June. I already read it.
I got an art copy for that one. So there's two, almost three books for that.

Speaker 4 And then Never Lie. Those are, but only the Housemaid series is a series.
The rest of them, I don't, I don't think I've read like, I'm looking at my bookshelf right now. I don't think I've read like a

Speaker 4 mystery thriller series outside of like the housemaid series, but you also don't need to read the housemaid as a series, like they're standalones and a series.

Speaker 4 If you could talk to your teenage self, what would you tell her and talk to her about? Whoa, Jesus fucking Christ. Um,

Speaker 4 I could talk to my teenage self.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I think it would probably be somewhere along the lines of like

Speaker 4 trying harder because I think that I really didn't put out my best, my best efforts in high school, like as far as my grades went.

Speaker 4 And so I think if I had better, hear me out before you guys come for me, just hear me out.

Speaker 4 Had I put more effort into my grades and actually studied, because I was not, I'm not a person that is naturally smart, right?

Speaker 4 Like there's people who are just like, they hear something once, they can take a test and they're fine, right? Like, that's not me. I have have to study, I have to do flashcards, I have to, um,

Speaker 4 but I'm also never gonna get math. Like, if you, I still don't know how to do algebra, like, don't ask me about it.
Geometry, absolutely not, not happening, right?

Speaker 4 But, like, history, social studies, that type of vibe, science, like I had to study for that stuff, plain and simple.

Speaker 4 And so, I think that if I would have put more effort into my grades and my schooling,

Speaker 4 I would not have

Speaker 4 looked for attention, attention, love, acceptance, those types of things in

Speaker 4 men, right? And like in relationships, because I was

Speaker 4 heavily invested in my relationships at a very young age, right?

Speaker 4 Like I lost my virginity when I was 14 to John, and I was in a relationship with him at 14 years old for an entire year, and it was toxic and it was young.

Speaker 4 And it was, I mean, he didn't do anything wrong, but it was not good because we would break up, you know, for three days and then we'd get back together. And I just wanted to see him.

Speaker 4 And it was like, I was 14 years old. Like, my son, my Isaac is 14.
I cannot imagine a world where I'm letting him.

Speaker 4 First of all, I can't imagine a world where he's out of the house and I don't know where he is. Right.
And then, secondly, having sex like at 14, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 So I say all that to say, if I focused on my grades and I actually got

Speaker 4 built my confidence and my self-esteem off of good grades, I could have seen a brighter future in that way, whether it be like a trade school, a vocation, or like going to college.

Speaker 4 I realized by the time I was pregnant with Isaac that I had a GPA that was two-point something. Like my GPA was like two point-something, right?

Speaker 4 Like, I think there was only one college that I could have applied to, and I probably wasn't getting in. I think I was like just under like the

Speaker 4 GPA that would get me into that school, right? Like, the dream was temple, but I was never getting into temple university. It was just not going to ever happen.

Speaker 4 And I just wish that now, like, when I try to tell Isaac about like grades and stuff like that, it's like, even if you don't want to go to college, like right now, if you don't see yourself going into college, that could change.

Speaker 4 And I don't want you to regret when you see all of your friends applying to these colleges and going to look for schools. I don't want you to change your mind.

Speaker 4 And then it's too late to get your grades up because that's exactly what happened to me. It was too late to get my grades up and I was pregnant, period, plain and simple.

Speaker 4 So then I was, I mean, it worked out for me, but it doesn't work out for everyone. And I just don't want that scares me, right? Like just being focused on the wrong things.
I also think that

Speaker 4 some of the times that I acted out and didn't want to hear that I was like wrong or overreacting, like, I wish I just had more patience and I wish that I was-I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't think that there's anything that I could really aside from like the school stuff that could have changed the entire trajectory of my life. I don't know that there's like

Speaker 4 because I think a lot about like when I think of regrets, I think of a lot of the things were more, I regret more how I acted on Teen Mom than I did about grades in high school because, like, that ended up working itself out when I went to like

Speaker 4 community college and then eventually went to a four-year university. But

Speaker 4 some of the things that I did and said on Teen Mom are so cringe and so embarrassing and so

Speaker 4 like, what did I do that for? Like, what was I, was it because it was heat of the moment? Was it because I knew all eyes were on me and and I would get attention? Like, what was it?

Speaker 4 And I wish that I would have just calmed the fuck down and been more cool, calm, and collected. And I think that there still could have been, I don't know.
I don't know. It's a really hard.

Speaker 4 I mean, I was a teenager on Team Mom, right? So, like, that still falls into the category.

Speaker 4 Next, travel destination plans. So, Isaac and Lincoln really want to go to Europe.
They're really wanting to go to like England, Ireland, like that whole

Speaker 4 continent.

Speaker 4 Um, so Kristen and I have been talking about that. And then I also talked about like my Disney situation on coffee combos.
So, I don't, I'm not going to go back into that on here.

Speaker 4 But, I think

Speaker 4 big travel goals would be like

Speaker 4 London, Ireland, like that type of vibe for Isaac and Lincoln. And that would be like a me, Isaac Lincoln, potentially Elijah trip.
I don't think that would be like a bring the whole family.

Speaker 4 I think that certain ages

Speaker 4 appreciate it more. And I just don't think that Lux and Creed would appreciate it the same way that Isaac and Lincoln would at their ages.

Speaker 4 So, that's like the big travel goals, and then, like, little ones, I would say, saving for Disney either this year or next year, um,

Speaker 4 which at this point might be next year, but we'll see.

Speaker 4 How's the new house coming along? It's not,

Speaker 4 It's not. I'm meeting on the 20th with the architect, and I'm not using the same architect that did the design for this house.

Speaker 4 I have a new architect that I'm working with in a different town, and we go there on Monday, which I'm really, really excited. I'm nervous because I think the idea here is like

Speaker 4 putting pretty much every fucking thing that I want on the house, right? And then like scaling down from there. Like if I

Speaker 4 design something elaborate and I love it, and we're like, okay, we have this has it checks off all the boxes. Um,

Speaker 4 and then they're like, Oh, wait, it's gonna be three billion dollars. We're gonna be like, Oh, you know what? Hold on, let's see what we can scale down, kind of thing.

Speaker 4 Like, that's the idea this time around because I don't think that's what happened in this house that I'm in now.

Speaker 4 So, the 20th, we get the we go for the first, very, very, very, very, very first blueprint meeting. So, we'll start there.
So, it's going to be a long process, and I definitely want to take my time.

Speaker 4 When will your new house be done? Well, so that being said, we start on Monday.

Speaker 4 It'll be 2026 before we move into the house. So I don't know what part of 2026, but 2026 is the goal for us to be in the house.
Would you ever go back to Team Mom if they asked? Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I would not. You could not pay me.

Speaker 4 I mean, you'd truthfully would have to pay me like a million dollars to go back for for one episode. I am not even fucking playing with y'all.

Speaker 4 You would have to pay me a million dollars to go back for one episode. There is no world that I would accept anything less.
Oh, no. So that would be a no.
Are you listening to these books/slash audio?

Speaker 4 Some I do and some I don't.

Speaker 4 What piece of parenting advice would you give? I would say the sleep thing. I think that they don't focus enough on educating mothers before the baby is born.
Like, I think we spend so much time on

Speaker 4 don't go to sleep. Um,

Speaker 4 they don't focus enough on postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety. Most people don't even know postpartum anxiety exists, they only think of postpartum depression.

Speaker 4 Um, and then they like, I've went to the twin six-month checkup on Monday, and

Speaker 4 it was like you fill out like how many ounces they're eating, how many hours, how many like stools, how many pee, like all of that, right?

Speaker 4 And then on the back, you flip the page over, and it's like, Are you thinking about hurting yourself? Yes or no? Are you thinking, Are you more anxious? It's like a couple questions

Speaker 4 at the pediatrician, right? And so, like, you hand in the paperwork, they don't go over it with you, they don't even look at it. It's just like, did you write this down?

Speaker 4 And so, and then to that, I think that I

Speaker 4 went for like my sixth week, or I didn't go for my sixth week. I don't even remember.
And then

Speaker 4 they're like, okay, we'll schedule you for your like annual. There is no,

Speaker 4 I don't know. So the parenting advice is like, make sure you're getting sleep.
Look for the cues and the baby. Get a sleep consultant if you have to, ask for doula.

Speaker 4 I don't know, say budget for a doula because I'm thinking a lot of the time, I don't know this for sure. So like take this with a grain of salt, right?

Speaker 4 If someone is more

Speaker 4 prone or like predisposed, like PBD or whatever,

Speaker 4 and then they're not sleeping on top of it. And then maybe they have a partner that like doesn't know how to help or like doesn't help, or you're breastfeeding, and he can't really do anything.

Speaker 4 He or she can't do anything. That's going to exacerbate pretty much everything you're going through.
And so, I think there needs to be more focus on mothers prior to birth.

Speaker 4 And that truly is like first-time mom, second-time mom, all of the things. Because what you experience the first time is could it might not be anything like you experience a second or third time.

Speaker 4 And so, looking out for those signs, and then also just truly having a team and knowing what to look for. Because I can't imagine, like, if Elijah,

Speaker 4 if I didn't have Elijah when I was pregnant with the twins and Rio was still getting up all night, because he was until he was like one,

Speaker 4 what I, what would that have done to my mental health if I wasn't sleeping? I had to take care of a baby and I was pregnant. Like, it was just a lot.

Speaker 4 And then I also had like toddlers and stuff upstairs. Like, that just seems,

Speaker 4 I don't know, number one, parenting, like, go to sleep, but like, you can't because it's a newborn. Saw you at Morgan Wallet and was too afraid to say hi.
Well, next time, just say hey.

Speaker 4 Do the kids call Elijah their stepdad? Are you guys married? Did I miss a chapter? Okay, so this is actually a conversation that I have brought up with my kids, right? Because

Speaker 4 V had told me on Baby Mamas that Isaac has her in his phone as other mother.

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 that's fine, right? Like,

Speaker 4 but I was like, oh, that's like interesting. So I was like, okay, like, Lincoln

Speaker 4 asked him, how does he feel about Elijah? And he's like, that's like my stepdad. Same thing.
I mean, Creed's two youngs. He's like three.
All my kids call them his step, call him their stepdad.

Speaker 4 And one kid has even literally called him dad. And so

Speaker 4 I naturally am like, okay, so like

Speaker 4 we know, I don't want to to speak for them, right? So like, I don't want to piss anybody off, but

Speaker 4 we're not married. We have plans to get married.
Um,

Speaker 4 still trying to figure out like a date and stuff like that. But

Speaker 4 for all intents and purposes, that's their stepdad, right? Like, the goal is we're going to get married, we have three kids together. Like, that's their stepdad.

Speaker 4 We live together, we own houses, we write. So, same thing for them is like their parents' significant other is their stepmom and they're not really, they're not married, but they live together.

Speaker 4 They have children together. Like

Speaker 4 that's their stepmom. So that's what I'm going with.
I feel like if you would have asked me this two years ago or three years ago, I would have like, absolutely not. Like that's not.

Speaker 4 But I just think that we're too old to be playing that game. And like at this point, yes, like he is my emergency contact.

Speaker 4 So, you know, if they feel comfortable calling him their stepdad, then I'm comfortable with it. I also don't think that Elijah and I are going anywhere.

Speaker 4 Like, we're together, we're in this for the long haul. So, I just don't, I don't see anything wrong with it.
You know, they never called like

Speaker 4 my ex their stepdad, so I feel really

Speaker 4 good about this.

Speaker 4 Still a 36 triple D, unfortunately, yes.

Speaker 4 What sparked your reading obsession?

Speaker 4 I cannot

Speaker 4 tell tell you, honestly. I have no idea.
I know that I last year when I went to Thailand for my birthday,

Speaker 4 I brought books to read on the plane because of how long the flight was.

Speaker 4 And it wasn't even like,

Speaker 4 like, they were books I already had. Like, I didn't go out of my way to buy them.
And then I started with like a, I started with YA books, right?

Speaker 4 Like, so like Girl in Pieces, um, How to Make Threads with the Dark, You'd Be Home Now. And I really resonated, especially with You'd Be Home.

Speaker 4 I think it's You'd Be Home Now or You'd Be Home Buy Now by Kathleen Glasgow. I really resonated with that one.
It was pretty YA, right?

Speaker 4 But I was like, wow, like, I finished this book in two days, like, I can do this. And so, I slowly started to pick up books.

Speaker 4 And then, I think I discovered, probably from talking about those books, I discovered book talk, which I didn't know was like a thing. I had no idea.
So, then I'm like, somehow got on book talk.

Speaker 4 I have no idea. So, from there, I spiraled, immediately spiraled.
Was like, okay, well, if I got through these books in two days each right like just flying through them

Speaker 4 the end of 2023 i had already read i think i read five books in december or something like that and so i was like oh like i can do this like i can read i'm into it i think that the key to it was like

Speaker 4 I started with books that were good like I related to them I think if I was to have started like if I bought if I brought books to Thailand that were trash like they were terrible like i don't know jolanthurst let me think i'm trying to think of a book that was like one star for me

Speaker 4 first lie wins i hated it um i know that's controversial first lie wins i absolutely hated it um if i would have started up with a book like that i would have been turned off and i would have never went through a spiral right but i think that i started with good books that i was interested in it interested in

Speaker 4 i

Speaker 4 i started off with books that i was interested in i liked i related to the characters i related to the storyline. And then from there, I was like, wow, like I can,

Speaker 4 it was just like an easier, like it was a grab, like a snowball effect, right? Because I, and then obviously there's books that I don't love, but I know that I can read and I can get through them.

Speaker 4 And I don't know. Like, I, I think that everyone should just try again as an adult.
Like when people are like, oh, I wish I could read. I hate reading.
I hate reading. I hate reading.

Speaker 4 I think it's because we're all. The people that hate reading are the ones that, you know, maybe had a hard time comprehending or they like didn't like reading in school.

Speaker 4 But when you find something that you really like, I feel like it's a game changer.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite thing about? What's your favorite part of having a daughter? I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 4 My daughter is six months old. Not much is different than my boys right now.
Like,

Speaker 4 that might be a hot take too. Like, I don't know.
Not much is different. They still eat shit, piss, all of the things.

Speaker 4 And so, right now, she's not, I will say, she is a night and day difference compared to my boys in terms of like

Speaker 4 she's so like she's trying to crawl where like none of my kids I don't even think any of my kids were trying to crawl at six months I think it was like more like eight months so she I don't want to say she's advanced because I don't think that's the I think this is a case of

Speaker 4 typically girls learn faster than boys

Speaker 4 and I hope that's not controversial I think that's like pretty universal if that is true most of the time my daughter definitely falls into that.

Speaker 4 Like, she's, when I took them to the pediatrician, he was like, you wouldn't even know that she was a prepie

Speaker 4 because she just does all the things. And he does too, but she also, she's just, she just learns.
I don't know how to describe it. But other than that, there's no,

Speaker 4 I think it'll be a little bit different when she's like a toddler, she's like walking and stuff. Because right now, I mean, she still wears versus clothes.

Speaker 4 Like they're still wearing gender-neutral things. And unless she has a bow in her head, you don't even know she's a girl.

Speaker 4 So, um, and Elijah and I always talk about that because I'm like, I didn't have six boys for you to dress my daughter in boy clothes, but like, also, I get it because they're babies, they're infants.

Speaker 4 So, right now,

Speaker 4 there's just not much different.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Favorite part of having Irish triplets?

Speaker 4 Oh, well, um,

Speaker 4 well, I love how much Rio loves the twins. I love how much the twins love each other.
I

Speaker 4 truly, let me say this. I do, it's a lot of work, right? Like, it's not hard.
It's very exhausting. Like, it's exhausting, it's tiring.
We don't sleep, whatever.

Speaker 4 I was always a big fan of the bigger age gaps in my kids. Isaac and Lincoln are four years,

Speaker 4 Lincoln and Lux are four years. Lincoln and Creed are three years.
Sorry, not Lincoln and Creed. Lux and Creed are three years.
And then Creed and Rio are two years.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 hot take

Speaker 4 like the shorter, like the smaller age gap. Um, right now, it's

Speaker 4 it seems like they're gonna have more in common for longer periods of time. I know right now, Creed is like now one of like the big kids,

Speaker 4 but I think once school age starts, Creed will still he'll be closer in age since he's closer in age to Rio with the twins.

Speaker 4 If there's four siblings in three years, so Creed is about to be four, Rio, it will be two, and the twins will be one. So, four siblings

Speaker 4 in three years, where Lux and Creed are three years apart. So,

Speaker 4 he's a big kid now, but he'll be with the younger ones. And I just, I don't know, like, there's just something about like the littler age gap.

Speaker 4 And I know that sounds crazy because I used to always used to be like, Well, one goes to preschool, and then I have another, and then I get like one on long quality time. So, I will say that.

Speaker 4 Like, if you're looking, if you're planning a family, or if you're pregnant with one and you're like potentially planning a second or you know anything along those lines there are pros and cons to all all scenarios right like

Speaker 4 there just is i love that i had one-on-one time with isaac and then he went to preschool and he turned four and i had lincoln at home and i was doing like the the one-on-one bonding breastfeeding all of the things and then when he went to preschool i was having lux and so like i am very familiar with that

Speaker 4 But that also made it more complicated for

Speaker 4 like when we go on trips and stuff, when we were going to the the beach like when i was taking them to mexico and things like that by myself they're like isaac was eight and lux was just born and so it was really hard to be able to do anything with them

Speaker 4 um whereas like rio creed and rio and the twins like i could pack them in a wagon and i can just like do whatever and they're still napping they're still i mean not creed but um Creed's napping, but Creed's not in diapers.

Speaker 4 So like I still have the other ones in diapers. So it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 Take that with, do the, do with, with, do with that what you will.

Speaker 4 And then let's see what else I got here.

Speaker 4 How does Creed like being an older brother?

Speaker 4 Um,

Speaker 4 Creed fights with Lux all the time. So

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 he'll appreciate it more once they stop fighting. But he's one of the big kids now.

Speaker 4 And so he's like, gets in the baby's faces and like makes them laugh and like does all that, but like he's not really like playing with them right now.

Speaker 4 Once they get to an age where they can play with him, I think that they're going to have a really great time. So I love that.
Did you have to stop reading? It made me so depressed.

Speaker 4 I had to take breaks. Okay, I think she's referring to the women,

Speaker 4 the book that I just finished. No, I did not have to stop reading.
I literally could not stop reading. I will say that it opened my eyes.
Like,

Speaker 4 I don't want to say life-changing, but like almost. It will change your perspective on so many things or at least give you perspective.

Speaker 4 If nothing, like if it's not going to change it, we'll give you so much perspective and insight into truly like women during this time, but also the war

Speaker 4 in Vietnam.

Speaker 4 Absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 Advice for a fellow mom pregnant with twins. Okay, well, Jessica, let me tell you something.
Everyone and their mother is going to tell you to keep them on the same routine.

Speaker 4 Feed them and bathe them, not feed them and bathe them. Feed them, put them to sleep, bathe them all on the same schedule.
I tend to disagree with this. This has never worked.

Speaker 4 Your twins are two separate people. I understand the logistics behind it, especially in the middle of the night.
Like if one wakes up, wake up the other one so that they're on the same schedule.

Speaker 4 And that might work for you in the beginning. By month three, my twins did not want to eat on the same schedule.
Even right now, Verse eats six ounces every two to three hours.

Speaker 4 Valley Valley still drinks four ounces every two to three hours, but they're not on the same two hour to three hour schedule. So sometimes they're just, they just don't want to match up.

Speaker 4 And if you try now at six months, one of them just doesn't want like

Speaker 4 when you're not hungry, you're not hungry kind of thing. So my advice to you

Speaker 4 is do what works for you.

Speaker 4 Don't listen to other fucking people because they're going to tell you what's best for you. They're going to tell you what's best for them.
They're going to tell you what worked for them.

Speaker 4 them, but that is not your experience, it might not be even similar. So, just trust your own instincts.
Make out with Travis or Taylor, must pick one and explain why.

Speaker 4 Do I just make out with Travis? Like, he's hot. Do I need I'm not attracted to Taylor? I don't know, but there's no other explanation.

Speaker 4 Um, question about the twins and Rio, who is more like you or Elijah? Can't wait to see more. Honestly, they're nothing like any of us.
Rio doesn't look like either of us.

Speaker 4 I think Valley sort of looks more like Elijah and then Verse doesn't look like any of us. So Rio and Vers do not look like us.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 Rio also only speaks Spanish,

Speaker 4 which is so funny.

Speaker 4 My nanny, who is like family, she only speaks Spanish, which I love so much because I'm learning.

Speaker 4 So Rio... doesn't say aside from high

Speaker 4 he doesn't say any words in english they're only in spanish um

Speaker 4 Which is more like me because I want to do cool things and I think speaking Spanish is so cool. Like

Speaker 4 would love to just be able, I mean, I know enough, but like I wish I was fluent. So

Speaker 4 I'll take that. Rio wants to be like me.
But no, I don't think they're like any of us. I think it's very interesting.

Speaker 4 I'll be curious to see how that changes as they grow up because right now I'm not seeing anything outside of like facial expressions that are Elisha.

Speaker 4 If you guys want to do more of these solo podcasts, just let me know and I'll make time for it. But other than that, I'll catch y'all on the flip side.
I hope you have a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 4 I hope you have a fantastic rest of your month. May is definitely Maying and I'll be ready for school to let out.
I hope you guys have a great weekend and I'll talk to you guys next week. See ya.

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