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Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird.
It's your fave villain, Kale Lowry. And you're listening to Barely Famous.
Hello, motherfuckers. It is another solo episode of Kale in the the chaos and i literally just walked in from baseball so i will be drinking out of lux's water cup because i ran out and i literally walked in from baseball and was like fuck i have to record for tomorrow's episode so it is now 8 37 p.m let's catch up so this past week i have read the women by krista manna we have had baseball two days this week and we'll have basketball two days this week so the only day off that we had so far this monday um i went on a field trip with creed today and i have to tell y'all we went a beach, like a local beach for the field trip to collect like rocks and seashells and sea horseshoe crabs.
And let me tell you something. The way that I needed an oxygen tank to make it through that workout of a field trip was crazy.
So caught up with Bone afterwards, went to the gym for the first time in probably three months. And I almost didn't go because I went to the beach and I was walking on the sand and I was like, does this count as workout? Because I don't know if I can take it.
So then I get out of that. I go get the kids from school and then I'm like, oh my God, we have baseball.
And the whole time at baseball, I'm like, my knees are going to give out at any point, right? Like I need to go to the gym more often so that I don't feel like this. But also my life is so unhinged.
So I ended up getting two gym memberships. And I know that sounds crazy, but the way that Delaware is set up, there's like not a planet fitness where I normally go, but then Creed School is in another town.
so i'm like okay but on certain days it would be more convenient for me to work out by creed school and then on certain days it would be thankfully planet fitness is ten dollars a month or 15 whatever it's like pretty affordable so i can't really i don't have an excuse there um and then the other one that's like in the other town i ended up doing just like a six month pay up front thing for the for the membership because i was like i can't make excuses anymore listen to me when i tell you i want to get a boob job right so i call around i'm like making these consultations to get a boob job you know what they told me they told me i need to lose 40 pounds okay so 40 or 50 pounds, more like 50, but, but maybe could get away with 40 pounds before they can even operate on me. So that was extremely humbling.
And I didn't sign up for that on a Wednesday in the middle of the day. So I was like, Oh, like, I've been wanting to do this breast reduction, I've been wanting to do a reduction, implants, lift, whatever it is.
Because I want to do that. And she was like, do you still want to schedule this? And I was like, oh my God.
And I'm literally sobbing already. I've already, the waterworks have started because I'm like, wow, that was really humbling.
I didn't realize. I said, we'll still make the consultation because I need to know what I'm expecting to pay for.
I have to know what I'm budgeting for. I have to know how long I can save.
Realistically speaking, how long is it going to take me to lose 40 pounds? So I say all that to say, if you are looking to schedule a cosmetic procedure, your B cannot be over at whatever it is like these two surgeons that i specifically was like vetting for a long time and scheduled with or went to schedule with one they were booking out in july now they're not booking out until december i was like never mind don't want to wait called another one was like oh but yeah we have like some in July, but you cannot. So anyways, um, don't call on a Wednesday.
Don't call in the middle of the work day because they will tell you on the phone based on your height and weight, your current height and weight, if they will be able to operate on you and, uh, they won't be able to operate on me. So I start crying and I know that she can tell that I'm crying, but she's like not saying anything, but like, I'm like to answer all her questions.
So that was kind of unhinged and I just didn't plan for that and I wasn't in the right headspace. And so if you're wanting to get cosmetic surgery, this is what I was trying to say, but I like lost my train of thought is before you start calling for consultations, make sure you're in the right headspace because if you're not, you will be humbled by the fact that they may not be able to operate on you so that's that i don't even know if i can get like my double chin done um and truthfully would just want to do that at the same time as my boob job because i'm like why not why would i pay for anesthesia twice right so probably can get that done for a long time that's like a genetics thing it.
It's not just me being overweight. It's like even the skinny people, skinny women in my family have it.
So it's like kind of crazy. And then I need to talk about this book that I'm reading because this is never, I was never interested in like history.
Like that just like wasn't my subject of choice. Right.
And so my sister's book club pick, I know not everyone here that's listening to Barely Fucking Famous is a book early. Like, right.
I get it. But The Women by Kristen Hanna is one of the most eye opening books that I've ever read slash listened to because I'm doing both.
I'm spending a lot of time in the car between driving to baseball and basketball and the beach field trip was like an hour, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, so I'm doing both, right? First of all, are those play ducks? The audio on it is fantastic.
So if you're looking for an audio book that you are, you have time to listen to, it is, I think the entire, if you're not reading it, like the physical copy of the book and you're just reading it, I mean, you're just listening to it. It's like 14 or 15 hours.
But if you are doing a combination like me, it's very good on audio. It's very good to read in person.
You fly through the pages because it's so i mean i loved it it's historical fiction that takes place like during the vietnam war and also um i think in the book where i'm at right now is like 1972 i think it started in like 68 maybe like 1968 but long story short is like i never would have pictured myself getting into historical fiction but the eye- eye opening themes and events that took place during this time was absolutely insane. And I could have never guessed.
I also think that it's really interesting that in the book, they're talking about how like, you don't talk about your pain, regardless of what it is. It doesn't matter if it's you lost a child, you went to war, you have PTSD, you are having just any types of feelings, you shut up and you push it down and you forget and you move on and you don't talk about it.

And I thought that was really interesting because towards the middle-ish to the end, the main character, Frankie, she's talking about, you's, it's 19. I think she says like it's 1972 or something like, um, I don't have to be married to have sex.
I don't have to push my feelings down. Like they're starting to come around to the idea of PTSD.
That's where I'm at in the book is like, PTSD is like starting to get recognized. Um, today we talk about it and and we talk about things like this all the time.

And we hear people overuse and misuse and misinterpret and,

and, and, and talk about these things.

Like we over talk about it.

And so it's really interesting to see, to read,

I guess like where we started to where we are now.

And so I thought that was interesting.

I also am going to my discord appointment tomorrow. I, now that I'm a gym girly, I went for one day.
Now that I'm a gym girly, I'm concerned about going to the gym on Saturday, but if I don't go to the gym on Saturday, I might never go again. So I only went today for the first time since March, literally have not seen bone since March.
Cause the last time I saw bone, we went to the, we went to the gym.

Um, and so I'm hoping to make a consistent routine.

I don't know.

I'm scared.

So Lincoln wants to try raising canes.

He has been dying.

He's been peer pressuring me to try raising canes.

And so I think we're going to try to go tomorrow.

If we can find one that's like semi nearby, Delaware has like nothing. Or you if we have it you have to drive an hour plus for it i need to get my disport in delaware i get it in pennsylvania um so i'll meet kristin for that because she goes to the same place as me we schedule our appointments together so that we can meet because it's like two hours from me an hour from her kind of thing which doesn't really makes sense because she also lives two hours from me so i guess it's like really not me it's not really convenient but it's fine because i get to see her so it's whatever but um so that's that and then we have a baseball game on saturday and then we're filming book club on sunday so if anyone wants to join book club isaac also he launched his asl sort of vibe he's really wanting to do ASL as like his career so he started posting some ASL stuff on his own Instagram which is so it feels so fucking surreal to have a teenage son that is old enough to like post their own content on social media and I would be lying if i said that i wasn't nervous um he's 14 and a half literally like this month he's like 14 now whatever and i'm like i was definitely posting on like myspace and saying i actually think i was 14 when i got a facebook so i did it right and like i personally, I know that it happens.
Like I personally wasn't like getting into trouble with it. And I know that Isaac is like too smart for that, but I'm also, let me not say that.
That's so fucking, I'm, that's naive of me to say, like, you think that they're too smart until something happens and like, knock on wood, I hope it doesn't happen. But like, I do think that he is mature enough to have it,

but I am like overseeing everything.

I'm like, send me your content before you post it.

And then also like, I just want to double check.

Also, I'm like monitoring the comments because people are so fucking rude.

But he's handling it really well.

And it's just for fun, which I think is, I'm hoping is how it stays.

I don't want this to be like, like a job for him.

I don't want it to be like, I don't know.

And it's just for fun which i think is i'm hoping is how it stays i don't want this to be like like a job for him i don't want it to be like i don't know and it just like makes me nervous and i don't want him to i want to monitor it so that he is not associating his his um competence and his self-esteem is not based on likes or views on social media because that definitely makes me nervous. I hope that he's proud of himself regardless because I think the amount that he's learned for ASL in a short year has is really impressive.
At least to me, I'm not I'm not I couldn't do it like I don't I it just the retention isn't there for me i also don't know that i would i don't know that i would have the um what is it called attention span for it so i'm proud of him and i literally sobs like when he sent me the first video that he was gonna post i like cried because i was like i'm so proud of you and i was very worried about him because i he didn't want to go to college which is fine but i was also worried because I felt like he felt lost and I think that that's really common in teenagers like we don't have to figure out what the fuck we want to do like there are 30 year olds who are still trying to figure it out and that's okay like I don't even know like am I going to be podcasting forever who knows but when I'm 40 it's very possible that I could change career paths and like do something in corporate or like go into I don't know like Like there's just so many options that they don't expect him to have it figured out. But I also didn't want him to feel lost.
And so I really love that he's doing that, even if it's just a hobby and he never truly pursues it and it's a hobby, like that's fine. I think that there are so many people who could benefit from or like maybe be inspired.
Like maybe people don't know that there's career paths in ASL and that

interpreters are desperately needed. Like, I don't know,

maybe he'll create a community of, you know,

hearing people that want to help, you know,

hard of hearing. And I think it's called CODA,

C-O-D-A and nonverbal people. Like I, I'm, I hope, you know, I don't know.
That could be cool. So that's that.
And then as far as sports, we're just like taking the summer off of sports because it's just a lot you know what i mean like travel ball is like i was a little irritated yesterday because i had to drive we we know that we we sacrifice what we do for the kids to play sports whatever right so that's great but there was like a change in lincoln's schedule for travel ball and i was, so we're driving an hour to practice for an hour, normally practice like an hour and a half to two hours. But they changed locations.
And it was like driving an hour to practice for and I was just like, we're spending two, two hours in the car round trip. And then people also like come from Pennsylvania.
So there are kids on the team that are not just from Delaware. And I'm like, this is a little bit much, but I, I didn't say that to Lincoln.

Like, I'm just like saying that to Kristen or like saying it to you guys on here and

venting or whatever.

But, um, I'll be looking forward to the little break over the summer to like hang out.

I was looking on, um, Amazon earlier.

Kristen had this idea of like doing like an inflatable, like movie projector thing outside.

And I thought that could be a cute little idea. So I was i was like gonna look at that and see what's going on um and then the kids the boys have like a birthday party to go to on sunday and things are just like thingin you know like they're lifing life is lifing and elijah is almost done with the i think it's called a lean-in Like maybe you guys that are farmers on here, familiar with farming, farm chores, all the things.

I, there is a farm that has 36 kids, right?

And by kids, I mean goats.

And so they were like, they are in need of a home.

And I'm like, oh my God.

And so we, he already built a goat home.

Like, I don't know what's going on.

I come home and I'm like oh my god and so we he already built a house a goat home like I don't know what's going on I come home and here goes the goat thing I'll tell you what these fucking ducks are messy they're dirty they're dirty they are fucking dirty and just get your pond if you get ducks and you have a water source like get them a filter sort of thing because also they're fucking dirty so i had a text from somebody went somebody i grew up with and she said did you know that they have shoe heaters so that they can take the wetness out of your shoes what bites um i don't know if anyone here listens to coffee combos i think it was coffee combos Creed had left his cleats out in the rain and I was trying to think of how to dry them, like accelerate the drying process, if you will. And nothing was really helping.
And so Elijah had put like the industrial fan, like pointed on them or whatever. And then that didn't really work.
And then I had put them in the dryer and put the laces outside i had talked about the sun coffee combos and then you run the dryer so like the heat and the steam or whatever like dries them that's great and good and it might work but it didn't work in time so i was freaking out and then yesterday we were looking for creeds muck not creeds we were looking for lux's muck boots yeah like his extra tufts and of course he left them out in the rain so we're just having ourselves a time with um wet shoes and wet boots and um i don't know that's just what it's that's what we're doing but i wanted to tell you guys about the dolly parton free book club that there is for kids i know for when i had rio and the twins at the hospital we were having um them at there's like you can sign up for dolly parton's free book club there so if you guys are interested you guys can go do this i'm gonna post the link so you guys have it but i thought it was really cool because we get free books in the mail all the time for the kids are like children's books which which is really nice. And if anyone else is like me and is trying to read more to their kids, I just, I read a lot to the older kids.
And then the middle kids, I just like, didn't read as much, but Creed loves fucking books. Like Creed is, loves them.
Rio loves them. Rio is Lux.
I would say probably Creed and Rio are my two biggest readers. And then like interested, I mean, not like reading books, but I wish that I had done more with Lux because I feel like now like I'm, we're starting to feel the effects of like not reading as much as I should have.
And, and so anyway, I say all that to say that we are trying to get back into that. And so you guys can sign up for this.
It's free. Like I said, I'll post the link.
Um, and then the other thing was I am getting a lot of messages about the sleep consultant that I used for Creed whenever he was learning how to sleep. And like, I wouldn't call it sleep training, because that's not what it is.
It's just like, Brittany gets you into a routine where the baby knows the cues. And I also wanted to talk about like the sleep wake windows for babies.
I think a lot of parents don't know that there are so many cues that a baby is tired or getting tired. And once you miss those cues and those signs that they're tired, now their cortisol shoots up.
So if you don't know, the cortisol hormone is like the stress hormone, I think it's called. And so it is going to prevent your baby from sleeping, which then leads to like, the crying and the over crying.
And now you're frustrated, the baby's frustrated, and nobody's nobody's sleeping, right right and so I really think that they should focus on teaching mothers first-time mothers and even second and third-time mothers truly because I didn't know this until my fourth kid right like I had no idea that there was sleep wake windows and you could even google like sleep wake windows for whatever six months nine months whatever and it'll tell you like how long they should be awake before they should have a nap or like what the signs are to look for and trying to get your, having a routine for your baby during those, um, like those cues, like, okay, you're the eyebrows being red right here, the yawns, they're rubbing their eyes. Like you cannot, if you miss them, you're doing yourself and you're ready to surface.
Right. So like getting them into a rhythm and like, it sucks, right? Like if you use a sleep consultant, it fucking sucks for like nap time specifically, because the idea is like, you want to get them into a routine that you're recognizing the cues first and foremost, and you're not doing a disservice to your child.
So getting them into the routine really helps everything. And so I say all this to say that that was something that I had to talk about for today, but look for the clues.
Her name is Brittany Levine and her Instagram is, I believe it's baby sleep guide. Hold on.
Yes. At baby sleep guide.
Her name is Brittany. And truthfully, if you stick to what she says, you can't half-ass it.
So if that means you have to turn down plans for the first six months of your child's life or like the second six months, the first year of your baby's life, like you're turning down stuff or you have to leave early or you have to get there early or get there late because of your baby sleep. I promise you it will save you in the long run.
So just keep that in mind. I also did a Q&A on Instagram so we can go ahead and get into those.
I know that people don't love when I post asking questions and then don't answer them right away because I save them for the podcast. So let's get into it.
How many books have you read so far this year? Oh, that's a great question. I would love to answer that for you.
When I started my reading journey last year, I only did like a handful of books, right? Because I didn't know what to expect. And then so going into 2024, I was like, oh, I'll put my goal to 25 books.
That's like two books per month. And then I, it's May and I hit, I'm at 35 right now, 36 with the women.
So I'm up to my goal to 75 for the year. So right now I'm at 36 books for 2024.
Favorite self-tanner. I don't use self-tanner.

If I try a self-tanner,

I'm going to try my friend's brand,

You Bronze.

I don't know if you guys remember Lindsay Nicholson from 16 and Pregnant.

She was the cage fighter UFC up and coming.

She ended up getting pregnant.

I think her child's father

maybe was named Forrest or something.

I'm not sure.

Anyway, we became friends with her. Absolutely love her.
She has a company called You Bronze. And so if I'm going to try South Tanner, it's going to be that one.
And I actually have plans to try that this year because I've heard good things about that one. And this is not an ad.
She did not pay me to say that. Thoughts on It Ends With Us trailer.
I did not see the trailer because I have not read the book yet. So I don't want to see anything until then.
Um, does Rio interact a lot with the twins? First of all, Rio is obsessed with his twin siblings and truthfully think that Valley and Rio are the twins. So it's like river Valley, but that would be cute.
Like little like river Valley. Oh, that's cute.
Um, Rio and Valley are the real twins. And then I don't know who Verse looks like.
Verse and Valley are interacting a lot now, but Rio loves them. And I love actually all my kids love each other.
I mean, Lux and Creed definitely fight the most, but Rio interacts with the twins. Rio loves Lux and loves Lincoln and Creed, but like loves them.
Um, do you ever feel disconnected from Elijah because of busy life? I miss my husband. That's literally like the struggle right now is I'm sure he's feeling it, um, physically and I'm feeling it just like in all aspects.
I went to the baseball field with three of the kids today while Elijah had Isaac took him to the barbershop for me. And then he had the babies and normally would take the babies, not the babies normally would take Rio to the baseball field with me.
But because there was two games at the same time and I had to be in two places, it just was going to be pure chaos. And it's, lot.
I will be so glad when we hit the summertime and we can just kind of take things way easier. And I'm condensing my schedule as much as possible to try to only do whatever I have to do on the weeks that I do not have my kids so that when I have them, we can all be together as a family.
We can kind of do stuff. It's, it's hard.
And the twins are six months old and they still don't sleep through the night. So, um, that also has us a little bit on edge.
So we're not fighting, but we're not seeing each other. So I almost, I almost would rather be like arguing, but we don't even have time to argue because we don't see each other.
So that's that. When will you talk about what your family found out through 23andMe? We'll probably talk about that soon.
Like there will be more on that maybe this year, maybe next year. I'm not entirely sure on like the timeline, but it is coming.
So patience is a virtue and I'm, I'm still learning it myself. Um, just curious if the girl name you were never going to share is Valley or not either.
Um, so beautiful either way. No, that was not the name.
The name was Navy and A-V-Y. And, um, that was the name that we, not Elijah, that I, I'm hesitant to say his name, but like Chris and I were going to need, if we ever had a daughter, her name was going to be Navy.
And then the other name, when Javi and I had talked about other kids was Amina. He was like, if I have her daughter name, I'm going to name her Amina because we had met Amina when we went to marriage boot camp.
And then I also liked Will Amina. And so I was like, but I felt like I couldn't use it because Javi and I like talked about Amina.
And then we also talked about Priscilla, which, okay, we don't have to get into that. But the name that I had for like, since Lux was conceived, which was 2016, 2016, 2016, the end of 2016.
So like eight years was Navy, N-A-V-Y. And I know that it here, I will say like in the Northeast is very uncommon.
I've never met a Navy, never like not a thing. And then the more time that went on, I was like, wow, it's like really rising in popularity.
And then I had started to see it, especially in like the South, I'd seen Navy everywhere. And so, um, but Navy was, was my girl's name.
Like N-A-V-Y, obsessed, was never gonna, like I, and then I felt weird. Like when I found out that I was having a girl, it was just like, I can't use a name that I previously had with somebody.
I can't use that. So I have another girl's name.
If I was to ever like adopt or anything, there's one, it's not, it's not super common, but it's also not like on completely unheard of. I feel like it's sort of like Valley's name.
Like they're not like super weird and different. They're just not super common.
So if I ever were to have another one, I would definitely use. I even thought about changing Valley's name to like this name and then Valley's her middle name just because I want to use both and I feel like her middle name doesn't fit her um and I already was like Elijah I think

we should change it like it just doesn't it's not the vibe but then time is passing and I'm like I'm

like no how comes the triplets don't have their dad's last name well they basically are triplets why don't they have their dad's last name here's the thing one of my biggest regrets in life was not giving Isaac my last name simply because I'm the one that carried him. I'm the one that, you know, like it's just one of those things where we weren't married.
We never got married. And I just feel like he should have been a Lowry.
Like why should a child automatically get their father's last name? Like, well, I don't understand that. And I am speaking from experience, right? Like Lowry is my dad's.
Well, and I'll get into the whole last name thing because I'm not even a Lowry anyway. So I'm not a fucking Lowry anyway.

So I'm, it's crazy because I'm like, if my mom would have just given me her fucking last name, everything would have been solved. Right.
Or changed my last name when they got divorced, because I think that the divorce was like an annulment or whatever. And then Chris's last name is his mom's last name.
Right. Like, i just feel the only one that i'm okay with is maraquin because i was married to hobby and i hyphenated on social media and so i was like okay like that's fine like i saw an ass forever right but like isaac first of all isaac irwin love it that's my mom's last name um isaac irwin is like a brand you know what i mean like isaac irwin what um isaac lowry i all i also think or or even hyphenated if i would have just hyphenated isaac's last name we were not married whatever um and so then when i had lux and he was a lopez and then that whole thing happened it was like okay I this is not okay and then um I don't really have a reason other than like I didn't want to have to go through the name change process not that I think I would with Elijah like I think that I Elijah and I just don't have a tumultuous tumultuous relationship and I can't honestly say that like if we were split up it would ever be tumultuous like he's very even keeled he's like very um mellow like not that he doesn't hold his ground or like stand his ground he just is not a fighter by nature i think that he's just like humble mellow just even tempered um so them getting my last name just was like, okay.
Um, I wish that Isaac was, or at least Typhonated. I ended up, you know, changing Lux and Creed's last name.
And then it just made sense for them to all match. So we all match and you can love it.
You can hate it. You can disagree with it and that's fine.
But this is, you know, my family, my, you know, and I just, I think that's the way that it should, should be right. Like in my family, I think that we should have all matched and I wish that Isaac matched us or at least was hyphenated.
So would you consider adoption? I literally just said this to Elisha. I was like, because we talked about this on Copy Combos.
His family, they're not strangers to foster care, adoption, and stuff like that. And it was like, would you ever want to do that? And I never really saw myself as open to it before or I thought about it, but not really thought, okay, we could do this.
But I feel like now when the babies get a little bit older, I would definitely be open to it, especially now that I'm done having kids. And I would love for Valley to have a little sister if we can help somebody have a home.
So I just don't know how that would go into play. And I don't really feel like getting my heart broken over a child that I don't even have.
So it makes me nervous to even try the process of adoption or foster care because I don't know that they would even allow me to do that. And so it's like, I don't know if I would be ready to like put myself in a position to do that for them to tell me, okay, no, you can't.
Um, how could I join your book club? Uh, patreon.com slash Kayl Lowry. And I think it's like $5 a month, but you get, we do weekly giveaways,

um, weekly lives, weekly at pre-recorded drops. And so it's like, and then you get all the video for the podcast.
So it's, I think it's a pretty good deal, but I'm biased. So have you gotten any new tattoos? Absolutely not.
Absolutely not. I still haven't finished removing this one.
I would like to finish my forearm one. That's like Buddha.
That's a cover up. I just I don't have it in me.
My pain tolerance is not the same. I don't I just don't care about them.
Like I do. but I don't I literally said to my girlfriend at baseball I was like I would love to get a book tattoo especially like I want an octopus from remarkably bright creatures because I loved that book so much and then there are a couple others that I would really like from some of my favorite books but I just don't have it in me like I may I also feel like I kind of already went to all the spots that i would have tattooed i would definitely want to remove this because the straps like sit on it and then like you're like wait what does that say and so i and i don't like the font either um i would also like to get my own fucking books re-tattooed on my body so i don't know i just i don't have it in me i don't want to sit there for hours i also like every time I go into a tattoo shop, even when you go in with a big piece, right? Like you're like, okay, I'm, I'm going in.
I'm going to start this like half sleeve or whatever, right? Drawn up, they texted, they email, whatever. And you approve the design.
The design's already done. They're not drawing it up while you're there, right? This is like for like bigger pieces.
Why does it still take two hours to even get started? I don't have, if I go in for a six hour session, that means I have six hours from the time I get there to the time I leave. I don't have two hours in me to sit there and wait for you to set up and then four hours, possibly three hours in tattooing and then an hour of cleanup and getting the fuck out.
Like I just don't have that in me. No shade or hate to the tattoo industry, by the way.
Like that's not what I was getting at. Just like, I don't have the time.
Hey, Kale, can you suggest any good murder mystery series to start and want to branch out? I would just say start with never lie or the housemaid series by freedom McFadden. Those are fantastic.
You could also start with home is where the bodies are. That's like really fast listen for the lie is dark humor which is really fun and it's also a murder mystery like whodunit type of vibe so if you're looking for fast pace it's a um listen for the lie that one's like dark humor and then there's home is where the bodies are which is like super fast pace but it's gripping you're like what the fuck is going on and then um housemaid series by freemcfadden there's two of them out right now the third one comes out in june i already read it i got an art copy for that one so there's two almost three books for that and then never lie those are but only the housemaid series is a series the rest of them i don't i don't think i've read like I'm looking at my bookshelf right now, I don't think I've read, like, a

mystery thriller

series outside of, like, the Housemaid

series, but you also don't need to

read the Housemaid as a series. Like, there's

standalones and a series.

If you could talk to your teenage self, what would

you tell her and talk to her about? Well,

Jesus fucking Christ.

Um,

I could talk to my teenage self. I don't know.
I think it would probably be somewhere along the lines of like trying harder because I think that I really didn't put out my best, my best efforts in high school, like as far as my grades went. And so I think if I had better, hear me out before you guys come for me, just hear me out.
Had I put more effort into my grades and actually studied? Cause I was not, I'm not a person that is naturally smart, right? Like there's people who are just like, they hear something once they can take a test and they're fine. Right? Like that's not me.
I have to study. Icards I have to um but I'm also never gonna get math like if you I still don't know how to do algebra like don't ask me about it geometry absolutely not not happening right but like history social studies that type of vibe science like I had to study for that stuff plain and simple and so I think that if I would have put more effort into my grades

and my schooling, I would not have looked for attention, love, acceptance, those types of things in men, right? And like in relationships, because I was heavily invested in my relationships at a very young age, right?

Like I lost my virginity when I was 14 to John and I was in a relationship with him at 14 years old for an entire year and it was toxic and it was young and it was, I mean, he didn't do anything wrong, but it was not good because if we would break up, you know, for three days and we get back together and I just wanted to see him. And it was like, I was 14 years old.
Like my son, my Isaac is 14. I cannot imagine a world where I'm letting him.
First of all, I can't imagine a world where he's out of the house and I don't know where he is. Right.
And then secondly, having sex like at 14, absolutely not. So I say all that to say, if I focused on my grades and I actually got, um, built my confidence and my self-esteem off of good grades, I could have seen a brighter future in that way, whether it be like a trade school vocation or like going to college.
I realized by the time I was pregnant with Isaac that I had a GPA that was two point something like my GPA was like two point something, right? Like I think there was only one college that I could have applied to and I probably wasn't getting in. I think I was like just under like the GPA that would get me into that school, right? Like the dream was Temple, but I was never getting into Temple University.
It was just not gonna ever happen. And I just wish that now, like when I try to tell Isaac about like grades and stuff like that, it's like, even if you don to go to college like right now if you don't see yourself going into college that could change and I don't want you to regret when you see all of your friends applying to these colleges and going to look for schools I don't want you to change your mind and then it's too late to get your grades up because that's exactly what happened to me it was too late to get my grades up and I was pregnant period So then I was, I mean, it worked out for me, but it doesn't work out for everyone.
And I just don't want, that scares me, right? Like just being focused on the wrong things. I also think that some of the times that I acted out and didn't want to hear that I was like wrong or overreacting, like I wish I just had more patience and I wish that I was, I don't know.
I don't think that there's anything that I could really, aside from like the school stuff that could have changed the entire trajectory of my life. I don't know that there's like, cause I think a lot about like when I think of regrets, I think of a lot of the things were more, I regret more how I acted on Teen Mom than I did about grades in high school, because like that ended up working itself out when I went to like, community college, and then eventually went to a four year university.
But some of the things that I did and said on Teen Mom are so cringe and so embarrassing. And so like, what did I do that for? Like, what was I? Was it because it was heat of the moment? Was it because I knew all eyes were on me and I would get attention? Like, what was it? And I wish that I would have just calmed the fuck down and been more cool, calm and collected.
And I think that there still could have been, I don't know. I don't know.
It's a really hard. I mean, I was a teenager on Teen Mom, right? So like that still falls into the category.
Next, travel destination plans. So Isaac and Lincoln really want to go to Europe.
They're really wanting to go to like England, Ireland, like that whole continent. So Kristen and I have been talking about that.
And then I also talked about like my Disney situation on coffee combos. So I don't, I'm not going to go back into that on here, but I think big travel goals would be like, um, London, Ireland, like that type of vibe for Isaac and Lincoln.
And that would be like a me, Isaac Lincoln, potentially Elijah trip. I don't think that would be like a bring the whole family I think that certain ages um appreciate it more and I just don't think that Lux and Creed would appreciate it the same way that Isaac and Lincoln would at their ages so that's like the big travel goals and then like little ones I would say saving for Disney either this year or next year um which at this point might be next year, but we'll see.
How's the new house coming along? It's not. It's not.
I'm meeting on the 20th with the architect and I'm not using the same architect that did the design for this house. I have a new architect that I'm working with in a different town and we go there on Monday, which I'm really, really excited.
I'm nervous because I think the idea here is like putting pretty much every fucking thing that i want on the house right and then like scaling down from there like if i design something elaborate and i love it and we're like okay we have this at the checks off all the fucking boxes um and then they're like oh wait it's gonna be three billion dollars we're gonna oh, you know what? Hold on. Let's see what we can scale down kind of thing.

That's the idea this time around

because I don't think that's what happened

in this house that I'm in now.

So the 20th, we go for the first,

very, very, very, very, very first blueprint meeting.

So we'll start there.

So it's going to be a long process

and I definitely want to take my time.

When will your new house be done? Well, so that being said, we start on Monday. It'll, it'll be 2026 before we move into the house.
So I don't know what part of 2026, but 2026 is the goal for us to be in the house. Would you ever go back to team mom if they asked? Absolutely not.
no i would not you could not pay me i mean you'd truthfully would have to pay me like a million dollars to go back for one episode i am not even fucking playing with y'all you would have to pay me a million dollars to go back for one episode there is no world that i would accept anything less oh no so would be a no are you listening to these books slash audio um some i do and some i don't what piece of parenting advice would you give i would say the sleep thing i think that they don't focus enough on educating mothers before the baby is born like i think we spend so much time on like don't go sleep um they don't focus enough on postpartum depression postpartum anxiety most people don't even know postpartum anxiety exists they only think of postpartum depression um and then they like i've went to the twins six months checkup on monday and it was like you fill out like how many ounces they're eating, how many hours, how many like stools, how many pee, like all of that. Right.
And then on the back, you flip the page over and it's like, are you thinking about hurting yourself? Yes or no. Are you thinking, are you more anxious? It's like a couple of questions at the pediatrician.
Right. And so like you hand in the paperwork, they don't go over it with you.
They don't even look at it. It's just like, did you write this down? And so, and then to that, I think that I, I went for like my six week or I didn't go for my six week.
I don't even remember. And then they're like, okay, we'll schedule you for your annual.
There is no... I don't know.
So the parenting advice is make sure you're getting sleep, look for the cues and the baby, get a sleep consultant if you have to, ask for a doula. I don't know, budget for a doula because I'm thinking a lot of the time, I don't know this for sure.
So take this with a grain of salt, right? If someone is more prone or like predisposed, like PVD or whatever, and then they're not sleeping on top of it. And then maybe they have a partner that like, doesn't know how to help or like, doesn't help or you're breastfeeding and he can't really do anything.
He or she can't do anything, that's going to exacerbate pretty much everything you're going through.

And so I think there needs to be more focus on mothers prior to birth.

And that truly is like first-time mom, second-time mom, all of the things.

Because what you experience the first time,

it might not be anything like you experience a second and third time. And so looking out for those signs and then also just truly having a team

and knowing what to look for. i can imagine like if elijah if i didn't have elijah when i was pregnant with the twins and rio was still getting up all night because he was until he was like one what i what would that have done to my mental health if i wasn't sleeping i had to take care of a baby and i was pregnant like it was just a lot and then I also had like toddlers and stuff upstairs like that just seems I don't know number one parenting like go to sleep but like you can't because it's a newborn saw you at Morgan Wallet and was too afraid to say hi well next time just say hey do the kids call Elijah their stepdad are you guys married did I miss? Okay.
So this is actually a conversation that I have brought up with my kids, right? Because V had told me on baby mamas that Isaac has her in his phone as other mother. And so that's fine, right?

Like, but I was like, oh, that's like interesting. So I was like, okay, like Lincoln, like asked him, how does he feel about Elijah? And he's like, that's like my stepdad.
Same thing. I mean, Creed's too young.
He's like three. All my kids call them his step, call him their stepdad.
And one kid has even literally called him dad. And so I naturally I'm like, okay, so like, we know, I don't want to speak for them.
Right. So like, I don't want to piss anybody off, but we're not married.
We have plans to get married. Still trying to figure out like a date and stuff like that.
But for all intents and purposes, that's their stepdad, right? Like the goal is we're going to get married. We have three kids together.
Like that's their stepdad. We live together.
We own houses. We write.
So same thing for them. It's like their parents' significant other is their stepmom.
And they're not really're not married but they live together they have children together like that's their stepmom so that's what i'm going with i feel like if you would have asked me this two years ago or three years ago i would like absolutely not like that's not but i i just think that we're too old to be playing that game and like at this point yes like he is my emergency contact so you know if they feel comfortable calling him their stepdad then

i'm comfortable with it i also don't think that elijah and i are going anywhere like we're together

we're in this for the long haul so i just don't i don't see anything wrong with it you know they

never called like my ex their stepdad so i feel really good about this

Thank you. You know, they never called like my ex, their stepdad.
So I feel really good about this. Still a 36 triple D.
Unfortunately, yes. What sparked your reading obsession? I cannot tell you, honestly.
I have no idea. I know that I, last year when I went to Thailand for my birthday, I bought, I brought books to read on the plane because of how long the flight was.
And it wasn't even like, um, like they were books I already had. Like I didn't go out of my way to buy them.
And then I started with like a, I started with YA books, right? Like, so like Girl in Pieces, How to Make Friends with the Dark, You'd Be Home Now. And I really resonated, especially with You'd Be Home.
I think it's You'd Be Home Now or You'd Be Home By Now by Kathleen Glasgow. I really resonated with that one.
It was pretty YA, right? But I was like, wow, like I finished this book in two days, like I can do this. And so so I slowly started to pick up books and then I think I discovered probably from talking about those books I discovered book talk which I didn't know was like a thing I had no idea so then I'm like somehow got on book talk I have no idea so from there I spiraled immediately spiraled was like okay well if I got through these books in two days each right like just flying through them the end of 2023 i had already read i think i read five books in december or something like that and so i was like oh like i can do this like i can read i'm into it i think that the key to it was like i started with books that were good like i related to them I think if I was to have started like if I bought if I brought books to Thailand that were trash like they were terrible like I don't know don't let her let me think I'm trying to think of a book that was like one star for me first lie wins I hated it um I know that's controversial first lie wins I absolutely hated it um if i would have started with a book like that i would have been turned off and i would have never went through a spiral right but i think that i started with good books that i was interested in it interested in i i started off with books that i was interested in i liked i related to the characters i related to the storyline and then from there like, wow, like I can, it was just like an easier, like it was a grab, like a snowball effect, right? Because I, and obviously there's books that I don't love, but I know that I can read and I can get through them.
And I don't know, like, I think that everyone should just try again as an adult. Like when people are like, oh, I wish I could read.
I hate reading. I hate reading.
I think it's because we're all the people that hate reading are the ones that, you know, maybe had a hard time copy hunting or they like, didn't like reading in school. But when you find something that you really like, I feel like it's a game changer.
What's your favorite thing about what's your favorite part of having a daughter? I'm going to be honest with y'all. I'm going to be honest.
My daughter is six months months old not much is different than my boys right now like that might be a lot take two like i don't know not much is different they still eat shit piss all of the things and so right now she's not i will say she is a night and day difference compared to my boys in terms of like she's so like she's trying to crawl where like none of my kids i don't even think any of my kids were trying to crawl at six months i think it was like more like eight months so she i don't want to say she's advanced because i don't think that's i i think this is a case of typically girls learn faster than boys and i hope that's controversial. I think that's like pretty universal.
If that is true, most of the time, my daughter definitely falls into that. Like she's, when I took him to the pediatrician, he was like, you wouldn't even know that she was a prebie because she just does all the things and he does too.
But she also, she's just, i don't know how to describe it but other than that there's no i think it'll be a little bit different when she's like a toddler she's like walking and stuff because right now i mean she still wears versus clothes like they're still wearing gender neutral things and unless she has a bow in her head you don't even know she's a girl so um and elijah and i always talk about that because i'm like i didn't have six boys for you to dress my daughter in boy clothes but like also i get it because they're babies they're infants so right now there's just not much different okay favorite part of having irish triplets oh well um well i I love how much Rio loves the twins. I love how much the twins love each other.
I truly, let me say this. I do, it's a lot of work, right? Like it's not hard.
It's very exhausting. Like it's exhausting.
It's tiring. You don't sleep, whatever.
I was always a big fan of the bigger age gaps in my kids. Isaac and Lincoln are four years.
Lincoln and Lux are four years. Lincoln and Creed are three years.
Sorry, not Lincoln and Creed. Lux and Creed are three years.
And then Creed and Rio are two years. i i'll take like the shorter like the smaller age gap right now it's it seems like they're going to have more in common for longer periods of time I know right now Creed is like now one of like the big kids but I think once school age starts Creed will still he'll be closer in age since he's closer in age to Rio with the twins.
There's four siblings in three years. So Creed is about to be four.
Rio, it will be two and the twins will be one. So four siblings in three years where Lux and Creed are three years apart.
So he's a big kid now, but he'll be with the younger ones. And I just, I don't know, like, there's just something about like the littler age gap.
And I know that sounds crazy because I use always used to be like, well, one goes to preschool and then I have another, and then I get like one on one quality time. So I will say that, like, if you're looking, if you're planning a family or if you're pregnant with one and you're like potentially planning a second or, you know,

anything along those lines, there are pros and cons to all, all scenarios, right? Like there just is, I love that. I had one-on-one time with Isaac and then he went to preschool when he turned four and I had Lincoln at home and I was doing like the, the one-on-one bonding, breastfeeding, all of the things.
And then when he went to preschool, I was having Lux. And so like, I am very familiar with that, but that also made it more complicated for, um, like when we go on trips and stuff, when we were going to the beach, like when I was taking them to Mexico and things like that by myself, they're like, Isaac was eight and Lux was just born.
And so it was really hard to be able to do anything with them. Um, whereas like Rio Creed and Rio and the twins, like I could pack them in a wagon and I can just like do whatever.

And they're still napping. They're still, I mean, not green, but, um, Creed's napping, but Creed's

not in diapers. So like, I still have the other ones in diapers.
So it's like, I don't know,

take that with, do the, do with, do with that what you will. And then let's see what else I got here.
How does Creed like being an older brother um Creed fights with Lux all the time so I think he'll appreciate it more when they stop fighting but he's one of the big kids now and so he's like gets in the baby's faces and like makes them laugh and like does all that but like he's not really like playing with them right now once they get to an age where they can play with him i think that they're gonna have a really great time so i love that did you have to stop reading it made me so depressed i had to take breaks okay i think she's referring to the women um the book that i just finished no i did not have to stop reading i literally could not stop reading i will say that it opened my eye like i don't want to say life-changing but like almost it will change your perspective on so many things or at least give you perspective if nothing like if it's not going to change it will give you so much perspective and insight into truly like women during this time but also the war um in vietnam it's absolutely insane um advice for a fellow mom pregnant with twins. Okay.
Well, Jessica, let me tell you something. Everyone and their mother is going to tell you to keep them on the same routine, feed them and bathe them, not feed them and bathe them, feed them, put them to sleep, bathe them all on the same schedule.
I tend to disagree with this. This has never worked.
Your twins are two separate people. I understand the logistics behind it, especially in the middle of the night.
Like if one wakes up, wake up the other one so that they're on the same schedule. And that might work for you in the beginning.
By month three, my twins did not want to eat on the same schedule. Even right now, Verse eats six ounces every two to three hours.
Valley still drinks four ounces every two to three hours, but they're not on the same two hour to three hour schedule. So sometimes they're just, they just don't want to match up.
And if you try now at six months, one of them just doesn't want, like when you're not hungry, you're not hungry kind of thing. So my advice to you is do what works for you don't listen to other fucking people because they're gonna tell you what's best for you they're gonna tell you what's best for them they're gonna tell you what works for them but that is not your experience it might not be even similar so just trust your own instincts make out with travis or taylor must pick one and explain why do i would just make out with travis like he's hot do i need it i don't not attracted to taylor i don't know but there's no other explanation um question about the twins and rio who is more like you or elijah can't wait to see more honestly they're nothing like any of us rio doesn't look like either of us i think valley sort of looks more like elijah and then verse doesn't look like any of us.
So Rio and verse do not look like us. I don't know.
I don't know. Rio also only speaks Spanish, which is so funny.
My nanny who is like family, she only speaks Spanish, which I love so much because I'm learning. So Rio doesn't say, aside from high, he doesn't say any words in English.
They're only in Spanish, which is more like me because I want to do cool things. And I think speaking Spanish is so cool.
Like, I would love to be just be able, I mean, I know enough, but like, I wish I was fluent. So I'll take that real wants to be like me, but no, I don't think they're like any of us.
I think it's very interesting. I'll be curious to see how that changes as they grow up, because right now I'm not seeing anything outside of like facial expressions that are Elijah.
If you guys want to do more of these solo podcasts, just let me know and I'll make time for it. But other than that, um, I'll catch y'all on the flip side.

I hope you have a fantastic weekend.

I hope you have a fantastic rest of your month.

May is definitely Maying and I'll be ready for school to let out.

I hope you guys have a great weekend and I'll talk to you guys next week.

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