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Well, I'm 5'8 ⁇ .

How do you think I feel?

Put your wallet underneath my feet, and then I'll tell you.

Exactly.

So why don't you join the Steelers?

That'd be great.

Because he's on the Steelers now.

I won't say that it's not a possibility.

Odell here?

Nope, not here.

Beckham?

Yes, sir.

Reporting is ordered?

How are you?

Excuse my left.

Okay, I'll make sure.

Sports injury, which I'm sure you're familiar with.

No, I've never had any of those.

You had worse.

Although, you wouldn't want this.

It's called a mallet finger.

Yeah.

Happens in basketball.

That's how I got it.

The ball hits, you know, like straight on.

And then it's like the die, I saw the doctor, he said, you'd be much better if you had broken the bone because it's the tendon.

Yeah.

Or mallet finger, I had a boot near deformity.

Boom, it hit it just like this.

And they told me to keep it in a sling, it'll be straight.

And

was it?

Yeah, I tried to keep it as sling.

And you're the one hand catch guy of all the people.

A few of them.

Yeah.

I'm, I gotta tell you, lifelong New York Giant fan.

Yes, sir.

I mean, literally learned it on my father's knee, who was a fan from like the inception of the team in the 20s.

My father, you know, he was a kid.

So like, I took him to the Super Bowl out here in the 86 when they played the broncos when i couldn't even afford it but it was important so like

your years with the giants uh thank you yeah for great memories because that's my team definitely and you know me too it was a special it was just like it's it's crazy because it was a a different time and age um

at the time and just I'll never forget where I came from and then going to New York and how

thick of skin I already had and how thick of skin, how much thicker of skin I grew.

Because of New York?

Man,

but like I love New York forever for the rest of my life.

I mean, you've been with a few teams since then.

It's got to be, but it's got to be,

it's got to be tough when you start in New York because you're kind of, you know, it's.

Yeah.

Right.

I mean, where you.

Anywhere else you're going is never going to be there.

Look, I grew up outside of New York, and that's why they're still my teams.

You know, I was apart Met owner for a while.

I mean, I'm old in New York, but I've lived here for 40 years.

I never really liked living in New York.

Yeah.

But I get it that it's the mecca.

If we're being honest, New York is,

you know what I mean?

It's like, you can't, it's New York.

Like, respect to New York.

Right.

I love L.A.

It's a different vibe.

Yeah.

But it's New York, bro.

Like, and I, and it's so funny because when I was there, it was always like I had just started kind of going out to LA and I had never been to California or whatever.

And it was like, man, to be like

the LA would be something, but like to be the king of New York or to be, you know, legend in New York, it's completely different.

And you were.

I remember Chris Collinsworth

like coming in his pants when you made that catch.

I mean, the sperm almost came through the TV.

It's like, shut the fuck up.

You know, I mean, it was wasn't, just

I didn't have anything to do with that.

I didn't feel that

just saying, it is funny to me the way sportscasters, you know, sports, the sport that's like super macho and there's nothing gay about it.

And yet that kind of gay the way, I mean, they just go gay for the for the players that they love.

And, you know, I mean, look in the stands.

You're wearing another man's shirt.

Yeah.

And nothing wrong with it.

I'm just saying

it's not quite the macho women that they think.

But

there's been a gay player now.

Didn't somebody, somebody come out in recent years?

A football player?

There's a few, but it's like,

you know what?

The world is open.

Like, you be who you are.

Personally, I feel like this.

Every man has to look at himself in the mirror.

Every woman has to look himself in the mirror and be comfortable with themselves.

Like, and I am who I am.

It's something that I got to live by.

If that's you, that's you, you know?

And it's just like, I know that makes it difficult.

And it's, especially in the sport of football, it's kind of like,

it's a tough cookie for people to like, you know what I mean, get with.

There's something about sports.

I mean, obviously, it's just a bro thing and a guy thing.

And there's still a lot of, I'm sure, Neanderthals and good old boys and also Christians.

You know, that's a big thing, especially in the black community.

I mean, you know, there's a lot of, you know,

boy,

ineligible man downfield.

You don't want an eligible man downfield.

Brother, everybody, listen, it's a free world we live in.

Yeah.

Like,

I feel like at the end of the day, what else are we looking for in this lifetime but to fulfill ourselves and be happy?

Are you?

Me?

Yeah.

Oh, man.

I'm happy.

but

say it like i'm working throwing the globe down yeah yeah i'm glad you are um i'm you know and i'm still working on why what makes you happy these days no you're not with a team no with a team so you don't care

you do i care a lot you do i i've i've you still got stuff in the tank i got shit that i gotta put you can still get open i promise you that and i got you know i like to stay under the radar right now because i'm like i'm trying to figure out my own life it's like life hits at different times and it's like real shit happens.

And like for me, having my son, like, just imagine you get to the pinnacle of your dream Super Bowl.

I'm telling you the game plan that McVay had drawn up and me coop, staff,

everybody.

I'll have to wear it.

We know about it.

You know?

That's a great fucking attitude.

That's great.

That's like, do you ever read The Art of War?

He says, you know, keep the sword right behind you.

But if you ever have to touch it,

you've already lost.

Come on.

That's right there.

It's right there.

And it's just like,

it just like, and obviously that's a touchy subject for me because it was, it's bittersweet.

It's like, I went and joined that team.

Yeah, and you made that great fucking catch-in and got hurt, right?

Yeah.

It wasn't just that.

It was the whole playoffs.

It was the energy in the building.

People don't know the whole dynamic of how

Vaughan Miller, Jalen, like the whole locker room, like it was a, like that brotherhood thing is real.

Like when you have guys who are really rocking with each other, and I was, I came to a great team and I'll never forget, I came to that team and

funny story, Robert Woods, I'm walking on the practice field.

I watched it.

They were practicing hard.

I was like, damn, they're practicing hard.

Robert Woods.

Robert Woods.

Who is that again?

He was in L.A.

No,

remind me who, what position?

Receiver.

Robert Woods.

Okay, so he played alongside you as receiver.

He was in L.A.

Okay.

Tores ACL.

The day I was walking on the field, major part of their offense, went to Houston.

He's had a great career.

And it was like they were practicing hard.

And it was just like the competitiveness.

I'll never forget two days, me signing, me having an ACL where like people didn't even know.

It took me like

24 hours to sign the deal because Dr.

Eletrage came in.

He was like, Yeah, we have to let you know that you don't have ACL, your MRI, blah blah blah.

He's like, We could redo your surgery or you could play with it.

And I was, I was like, I'm gonna die on the sword.

Like, I've come too far.

I've been through too much.

And you may not ever get there again.

I'm ready to go.

This is when I was just leaving.

the Cleveland situation

that happened.

But anyway, signed over there.

And I'll never forget, like, week after week,

Dr.

Eltra was like, that is my family now.

McFay, the whole like family.

Did he do the one who did Aaron Rodgers too?

I don't know.

Dr.

Elchars.

He's the man.

Shout out to Doc.

He really is the man.

He's a good dude.

Good family, beautiful family.

So he fixed your foot.

My knee.

Your knee.

My foot was in uh new york

that's another story well you got to bring your foot when you get traded you can't leave your foot in new york i mean come on you're you're an athlete the foot is what started everything and it's so crazy that people really don't even know this story is like my doctor um

dave hancock i'll never forget this he was like mate this is the type of injury that will ruin people's careers.

I've seen it happen multiple times.

He's worked with multiple sports teams, Chelsea, the

whoever's all over in europe he's a soccer player and he's like what you're having done a grade two high ankle sprain what it could turn into is really bad and i came back three or four weeks too early i i'll never forget we had to sit i had to sit out the first week of dallas at dallas and dallas beat us and it was a division game and i was feeling all the pressure and i was like I got to come back for my team.

We had week two against the Lions and it was a Monday night game.

And it was like, I know I'm not really ready, but I can't see us going on two and starting off in a bad way.

Like, I got to try and find a way to get back for my team.

I never understand how athletes can play when they're, you know, not at 100%

because the nature of elite.

athletes and professional sports, the reason why we watch them is because, I mean, everybody on the field, like when they were in grade school, high school they were like way way way above all the other kids as far as how good they were i'm sure you were too and then they get to college and if you can still be like elite but even a lot of college great college players go to the pros i've seen enough episodes of hard knocks to know the coach is like it's just faster up here

everything is just faster and this guy was great in college and we we cut him in three days

so like considering that you have to be on that much of a razor's edge level just to be that much above better than the guy you're playing against, I don't know how you can do it when you're nursing an injury.

It's just, it's like the heart.

It's like the heart of who you are.

And for me, God had already blessed me with the parents that I have.

Like, I come from

dad was an all-world running back.

Supposed to back up Barry Sanders, went instead of staying in Texas, decided to go to LC.

My mom was all-world, track and field, went to the 92 Barcelona Olympics, pregnant, came in fifth place or fourth or fifth or whatever.

So she didn't qualify, but she had a drug test and she found out she was pregnant.

That's why I'm a little thrown off, honestly, because I'm four or five months pregnant and she, you know, she's running.

She's running.

Yeah, that's why I'm a little, you know, I have my issues myself.

And you think that's because your mother was jostling you when you were in the womb?

She was running too.

So you were just like,

Yeah, I was just, you know what?

Right.

But, but my mom had

my mom drank because that's what women in the 1950s did.

She drank and smoked.

And I came out okay.

Listen.

Listen, we all came out okay.

Well, you know who else is?

Maybe your mother knows her.

Probably she does.

Shea Gilgis Alexander.

Yeah.

His mother was an Olympian.

Wow.

Did you know that?

I actually didn't know that.

Yeah, Gilgis, that's, I guess she married a guy named Alexander, but that's his heritage.

That's fire.

Yeah.

You should call him on that.

It's his time.

Because I bet you guys would relate.

He's like, yeah.

He's just in his era.

He's a good man.

He's a good

father, husband.

I think he's, I don't know his situational shit, but he seems like a good dude and he's just focused and he's just.

I know, but let's not pretend you have to be a father and a husband to be a good man, right?

We all, we're men, bro.

We all, everybody.

I know, but I've never been married or had kids.

So I can still be a good man, right?

And we are who we are.

And that's who I am.

If I can look myself in the mirror, I can accept my flaws for who I am.

Yeah, but that's not a flaw.

That's just a choice, right?

Yeah.

I mean, do you want to, you're not married?

No, I'm not married.

Well, there you go.

You know?

Do you want to be?

Who knows?

Maybe.

I bet you if you did, you would.

I'm sure lots of ladies would say yes.

If it happens, it happens, you know, but it's just.

It happens if you say, will you marry me?

No, but.

Don't clip that and look like I'm asking him to marry me, please.

Yeah, definitely.

I don't know if you're doing that, but my knee hurts right now.

I don't know if I can get down on there right now.

What a good excuse.

But at some point, you know.

It just is about where you're at in your life.

Like, everything is about.

Don't do it, man.

Life's

life's the ebbs and the flows.

Flow and go.

That's it.

As an athlete, I mean, even in the offseason, you can't really go buck wild with partying, right?

But I'm saying why, though?

At the end of the day,

you work hard, you play hard.

Like, I was gifted with an ability, and not everyone was gifted with that ability.

No.

You know, it's for you.

It's life.

Everything is about balance.

How can you moderate?

And how everything everything in moderation is good, you know?

So as far as

what drink do you,

whatever, bro.

But obviously you keep yourself in pristine shape because you still want to play.

You know, you're an iconic figure in the sport.

And, you know, I can't believe that some team

isn't going to be.

I don't know who you would fit with, but like if you still have the passion and think you can do it, I'm sure, you know, my my boy aaron rogers who i love sat there

you are too you're too good at this i'm gonna tell you this he was there i we had the i love this i got too much pride i got too much since i was four or five years old i've i've i've sacrificed too much to get to where i'm at yeah to let anybody write my story off

except for how I want to write it or how God's going to write it for me.

So

four or five?

That young?

you thought you were going to do this when you were five?

Long story short, I'll tell you a quick short story.

My mom, four years old.

I was in Atlanta, Georgia.

My mom was a track coach at Georgia Tech.

My stepdad was an Olympic gold medalist.

The 96 Olympics was in Atlanta at the original.

I remember.

This is like one of my first memories.

Like one of my first things that I can remember.

I was four years old.

Wow.

My stepdad won a gold medal in the 96 Olympics.

My My mom was a 12-time All-American, 12-time.

I don't know the numbers, but my mom was a beast.

Like, my mom was the real deal.

Right.

And I just remember,

she went to Georgia Tech, Rice,

Tulane, these, that.

And she's at track practice coaching.

And I'm on the pole ball bit, throwing the football up to myself, catching, doing one-hand catches, doing catches.

That's five.

Diving, bottom of my feet, dirty as fuck.

You know what I mean?

Like, that was me, like, growing up uh Matt Forte could attest to it at Tulane he was like he was always just working nikki he was over there just like working like and uh four years old I remember it was snowing in Atlanta I always tell this story my mama came outside she looked around the house she couldn't find me she came outside she's like you know she cussed me out a little bit but like what are you doing out here like I had no shirt just my socks and shoes on shorts, whatever, throwing the football to myself.

And I told her, I was like, I'm practicing for Sundays.

and she was like i said it with so much conviction she was like i had no choice but to push you to be

who you were like it was just built she did and push you i gave up the weekends i gave up every weekend we were in biloxi mississippi this that for a soccer tournament or this that for a basketball or this like i was sports was everything for me Like I was always...

You kids want to be playing sports.

I mean, I played sports every weekend also.

They just weren't in like tournaments.

It was my backyard, but it was what I wanted.

You must not have had, it must have been actually fun for you, no?

No, too much pressure?

No, for me, it was different.

Like, I could stand on this, and it is what it is because, you know, we could all do if if was a, but like, you know, take injuries aside, like, as far as athletes in the world,

with God and my mom, my pops, everybody, whatever happened to me, I was one of those athletes in the world that could go from playing

multitude of sports.

Go take your LeBrons and all, you know what I mean?

Like everybody.

Baseball.

Whatever.

You could have played baseball, you think?

Whatever.

You could have?

Whatever I would have chosen, I would have been great at.

I just, it was in me.

I have that ability.

Yeah.

That drive.

I mean, it makes sense.

It just wasn't, it just wasn't.

Would I have been as good of a baseball player player as i would a football player i don't know would i be in a good football like you you never know soccer was really my first sport and i was supposed to join the u.s national team when i was like 13 my couple my coaches were from uh trinidad tobago and we used to have this aau league and

i remember like growing up how we grew up i just could never imagine my like we got to move london and paris and like you know like how are we gonna play the bills how are we gonna to chase like a dream that we don't know is going to work out?

And it's just like football for me was just an easier thing.

Like, I just knew I would make it.

And basketball was there.

I never forget.

The only way I was playing basketball is if I went to UNC because the Rory Williams camp wanted to be like Mike.

Like, I only wanted to play at UNC basketball.

That was it.

And I went to the camp.

I won MVP in whatever grade it was.

I never forget having the white Kobe Mambas on.

I'm like that.

You know what I'm saying?

Like it just.

So what are these things that you think you've given up so much?

Okay, so your weekends when you were a kid, that's a lot because kids need free time.

That's true.

But what else?

Like as a year ago.

But it wasn't that to me though.

Then when it wasn't that, it was like,

it was like I was doing what I loved, you know, but I'm like looking back on it now and it's like,

no, bro, you every

weekend, it was

traveling somewhere to go do this.

When you're actually doing it, I mean, like when you're with the Giants or the Browns or the Rams, the

Ravens, you were there for a while, right?

Loved it.

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love the ravens loved every single who is your favorite quarterback ever what a good question like i almost tough question because there's so many different

like it's so many different facets like i there there wasn't a quarterback that i didn't

not like obviously Eli went to his high school and every Friday when I grew up in New Orleans, I used to be like, what is going on?

Like,

there's some loud noises going on.

Like, really, a movie.

Literally, watch this.

I'm talking about, I lived right here.

There was a gate right here.

I used to walk to the gate and watch the football game.

And this is Isidore Newman.

And I didn't know nothing about it.

Who's that?

Isidore Newman.

Eli, Peyton, Manning.

Yeah, Archie Manning, the father, the pedophilius of Eli and Peyton.

Yeah, he played for.

who did he play for in the pros?

The Oilers?

No.

Somebody like that.

But yeah, I mean, he was, and now the kid.

Don't they have a kid now who's coming up?

Arch.

Yeah.

Bloodline.

You know?

I mean, DNA.

I'm talking about

100 feet.

Like, I'm talking about one football field,

maybe two football fields, Max.

I lived right there.

Do you think that was destiny that you wound up catching his passes?

I don't know.

Just, it just happened to work out.

Right.

But it was just like,

it literally could be a movie.

Like, I remember walking up to the fence and I was like, watching, I was like, I want to play here.

You know what I mean?

Like, I had no idea of anything.

And

because growing up in New Orleans, it would have either been Newman or San All.

You have a very sophisticated, mature attitude for someone who's 32, because I remember being 32, and I didn't.

Yeah.

I didn't.

I've been through.

I think I've done

my

22 through 32

was a 20 through through 40 with what I had to go through and experience and all those things.

And yet I still have a lot to learn and yet I'm still someone who wants to learn.

Like when someone like we said,

I want to learn.

That's the most important.

I'm not somebody who, oh, I think I know what.

No, no, no.

That is the best I want.

I am the same way.

Absolutely.

Somebody younger than me could teach me something.

I doubt it.

But my favorite three words are I don't know.

Because every time I say that, somebody tells me something.

And I was facetious about that.

You absolutely can learn from people younger than you.

I love that.

Luckily, the people younger than me are also better looking.

When you realize that you can't learn from somebody else, then it just, I don't know.

It's just like you, you think not too highly of yourself or whatever it is, but it's just not like, you're not open.

Like you, no.

But I mean, the classic mistake of youth, and I suffered it also, was

thinking you're so dumb, you don't know what you don't know.

So you think you know it all.

And, you know, what most people have to discover painfully through life is, you know, if you had just listened to this person, opened your mind, opened your ears, they could have, they were trying to save you

so much pain.

But it's almost, but it's so, it's ironic.

That's how I feel.

That's where I'd stop you and I'd be like, for me, type of person I am,

I have to touch that stove to know that it was hot.

It's not just you, it's everybody.

You have to, everyone has to learn.

Everybody's the only way for someone to learn.

I get it that you can, oh, learn from my mistakes.

You don't have to be like me, but no.

For me, I have to grow that way.

Like, that's how I'm going to grow.

I needed to do that.

It's a shame because

we could save so much pain.

And I would say I'm just pulling this out of my ass, but like one out of 10 times when somebody older imparts some wisdom to a younger person that says, I'm telling you, I've been down this road.

I've seen this movie.

But that was your life.

I've stopped at this inn.

I know, but you're doing the same thing.

We all have the same patterns.

I'm telling you, you could save yourself so much.

I think like one out of 10 times, that lands.

And the person actually avoids the mistake they would have made.

Nine out of ten times, they just got to do it for themselves.

For sure.

But also the one, let's compare the one out of 10 to the nine out of 10.

Like,

who knows what it does for that person?

Like, maybe

the one out of 10 who learned didn't learn in other areas.

Yeah.

The nine out of 10 who had to burn their hand.

So true.

Took all the information in and they understood for the next time that something was coming.

Like you just got to like,

everybody is everybody.

We all have our own lives.

We all deal with our own shit.

And that's just how it's gotta be.

Like we all have to, I wake up every day.

I gotta look myself in the mirror.

I gotta understand my problems.

I gotta understand my flaws.

Not to discredit anybody else, but at the end of the day, like I gotta handle me and mine.

Especially now that you got a kid.

Like I tell people right now, like I'm in the middle of my own storm.

I'm holding my umbrella.

And my my son and my family and the people who I love and care for are under my umbrella I can't hold your umbrella right umbrella

wasn't that a big song see why take your jacket off well my oh my god you're gonna sing umbrella now do it got me damn let's do it

yeah that's quite a jacket yeah it might be oh that's a beautiful oh yeah might need that take your yeah but you can reattach that yourself

that's okay.

We can even keep rolling with this.

And I'm sure, you know, we were talking before about how

you said you're really 40.

You know, you're

no, but like mentally, because you do, like, when you're 22,

normally you're playing this game in front of a lot of people.

Most people are not doing something in front of all those people, whatever they're doing.

And then after the game, you have to like sit down in front of the press.

You have have to go to a you know that table where you sit i feel like it's the rock bottom worst thing ever you could ever watch on television is any sort of interview with an athlete it's just it's it's kind of wrong but it's like for me even for me as a 22 year old everybody talks about this catch and it's like oh you know they like to try and reflect and be like oh he only had one catch and i'm like i think that was touchdown number eight of the season or whatever no no you're whatever you know what i'm saying like i'm a fan i know how good it is Let's be real.

Yeah, the people who watch the game know.

Stop it.

But it's like at the same point in time, it's like, yeah, that was

one catch that was touchdown number eight.

But to me,

I'm over here as a 22-year-old who's now been handed the world.

And now you have,

I'll never forget the catch happen.

I went from like almost being at 300K

to by the time we had the game next week, 1 million followers.

The week after that, close to 1.5.

Two,

like going into my like my second year, 2.3 million followers, like

just taking off.

And people around the world hearing about it.

And it's like, not everybody can carry that.

No, you, how many followers do you have?

I don't know.

Okay.

But it's a lot.

I know it's a lot.

I know you're like

crazy.

I mean, I've got 10,000 on beeper.

Yeah.

I'll just say for like, for the sport that I play, I've traveled across the world

and

I fucking love it because it's like

it's great.

Like I could be anywhere in the world and not anywhere, but people

fans.

Yeah.

Who I am.

And like as a football player, we wear masks.

We're not playing basketball.

Like it doesn't happen to anybody.

I'm not Tom Brady, who's the motherfucking goat.

You know, like, there's only certain people who are like,

you know,

etched in the stone, like, and it just so happens.

Do you think he's the goat of football?

I'm not arguing.

I'm just asking.

Yeah, I'm not arguing with you either.

That's like...

Yeah, I mean, he has a, I mean, he is pretty amazing.

I mean, seven to seven.

I used to dislike him.

Yeah, you try and it's hard.

No, I used to dislike him.

No, I tried to.

But I loved him because it's like, why the fuck does he keep winning?

He beat my Rams and the Rams is my team.

Like, you know what I mean?

like

he also i mean

even if he just had the super bowls with the patriots it would be an amazing number it's very hard to get to the super bowl but then to leave the team i mean the studdliest move he ever did was to leave the team and win a super bowl with another team because that was the

it was the mic drop of all time it was like i can do it without bill belichik thank you for sure and you know that led directly to jordan hudson yeah

and so it was a tragedy no it wasn't i think she's fantastic yeah i think it's fantastic he's with her but i think i think it's fantastic a coach can get young pussy that's how great sports is

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listen man life's great it's just like you gotta respect though like bill was a real dog too.

Like he was a real like he's one of those coaches.

He really was, bro.

He was one of those people who i'll never forget like you couldn't have played for him uh we it was close there was time

yeah

that was like would you have wanted to do

absolutely yeah because tom brady was tom brady you want to oh of course and brady was there

that would have been awesome it's also then funny that like i played with eli who

Eli was the only person to beat Tom and it was just like that kind of like

Newman connection.

So it's like it's always like a bud.

But like Eli was really like my fucking God.

Like, and people don't know it, and they always try and go back to this one interview that I did when I was young.

And it's like, oh, you threw your quarterback under the bus.

And it's like, you're telling a 24, 25-year-old man who's trying

to accept a check to set himself up from an organization.

So he can't really speak out on our organization.

He can't speak out on a quarterback.

And he's, but you you want him to take all the blame for it.

But yet it's a lot more than that that's at fault.

It's like

me, I've had this conversation with Eli.

Like, I know for sure how much I used to text Eli.

I'm like, you're seventh on the list for greatest of all time.

Let's get it.

Just 2015.

Let's fucking get it.

Like, we got shit to do.

And it's like, when I was at the Giants, Do you know how bad I would have loved to see Eli go out with the Super Bowl?

Like on his last, like, boom.

Motherfucker, you did it.

Like, I don't know, like,

you did it.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, that was what it was for me.

Like, it was deeper than, it was deeper than that.

And like, people got it so confused because the media tries to play their games and they try to play their role.

And they know how to create the story and make it this and make it controversial.

Just so people read it and then enough people read it and enough people probably aren't happy with themselves buy into it and they all buy into it and make it bigger.

It's just

like I see this.

I mean when Aaron was here he was talking about Devontae Adams and you know I mean I remember Terrell Owens crying.

You remember that?

Like that's my quarterback.

And I love it because it's like it just shows the camaraderie and also like it's like sports is great for being like transcending race.

It's such a, I've said this many times before on my show.

It's such a, it's a great example for society because obviously um you could people can do it they play together and the and the love that you see the the players have for each other yeah and it's like because you're on my team not on my race you're on my team and i mean and and i mean we have

four quarters and we win how did we win we all did this together but but it's especially the love that I see between like quarterbacks and their receivers.

I mean, they go together like drunk and disorderly.

I mean, it just

and I hate this.

People do not understand what it's like to be a receiver.

They like to put these time, prima donna, this, that.

Imagine this.

Imagine this.

Especially on receiver.

Imagine this.

63 plays in the game, average.

You're the top receiver.

You only get eight to ten to twelve opportunities out of 63.

Right.

The O-line has to block.

Everything has to block.

The routes have to be part of of the coverage just for you to get one opportunity to catch a pass.

How do you get open?

Fuck, that's what you do when you're training.

But I'm just saying it is a good thing.

But

how does a receiver get open?

Being off the line of scrimmage.

It's just time and a place, like everything else.

You know, but it's like for me,

it's the idea that people have of a receiver.

It's like, oh, he's selfish.

Everybody else on the football field, the O-line,

as soon as the ball is hike, they get to touch somebody with pads and block them or not block them.

The quarterback, he gets the ball in his hands.

The running back, if he gets a handoff, he's getting the ball.

The linebackers, they see the running back getting the ball, they're coming up to make the play.

They see the quarterback dropping back, they're dropping back and covering.

The DBs are guarding the receiver.

The receiver is the most selfless position on the field.

We have to rely on everything

else to go right just for one opportunity to catch a pass.

They never

people don't think about that shit like that.

Yeah.

You don't because you're like, oh, no, he's the pale dollar and all this.

No, motherfucker, I worked hard the same way he did.

The same way.

Just for this opportunity to catch a pass.

So fucking right, I'm going to be pissed if I got open and I didn't get the ball and this was my chance.

And some plays you're just blocking, right?

Some plays I'm just blocking.

That's got to be boring.

No, but not when you're blocking for a Saquon Barkley.

Right.

Not when you're blocking for, I got caught so many times.

I'll never forget.

I'll never forget like Saquon coming to the Giants and finally being like, I have somebody.

Like, never leaving New York.

Like, what the fuck?

Like, yes, I got somebody.

Let's build off here.

And

it was the Philly game.

We were in Philly, man.

This dude is just,

he's the best, right?

and i'll never forget i don't know what play there was but he caught like a he he took a handoff and he was coming up the left side and he bounced and da da da and i'm like looking at the the the the the the jumbotron like trying to block my guy but he's like breaking right to me and i'm like trying to get out his way so he could be great because he's bro he's one of he's one of the best to ever put on bleats telling you that and he's going to continue to show that and i just love it for him but it's like there's nothing better also as a receiver like you spring that block that made the touchdown go like that's just as good as catching the touchdown like

cool every receiver wants to catch the touchdown come on yeah be real you know what in my world the version of that is like if i'm if i'm a comedian on like martin short or something

Like

last thing in the world is I want to get in his way.

What I want to do is just set him up.

In my business, playing a straight man, that's blocking.

And it's extremely satisfying.

And it's a skill that lots of people don't have.

I love doing it.

They pay me the same.

Whether I'm getting the laugh or you're getting the laugh.

The check is still the same.

And it is a great feeling, a feeling of camaraderie and selflessness.

and doing something for somebody else.

It's a mentality.

And it's like, you know,

again,

break it down to this.

There's good people, there's bad people.

And I'll simulate back to be like, there's some receivers who do want to score to be like, it's me.

Like, you know what I mean?

Sure.

And there's some receivers who are like, like, I did that.

Like, we, you know what I'm saying?

Like,

I scored like for us, though.

Like, we're good.

Like, let's go.

Defense, you do your thing.

Like, it's, it's a camaraderie.

So, what about Aaron Rodgers?

Love him.

We've had conversations.

So, why don't you join the Steelers?

That'd be great.

Because he's on the Steelers now.

I won't say that it's not a possibility, and I won't say that I haven't had any communications, but I also

fucking love Tom.

I was actually supposed to be drafted to the Steelers.

Really?

That was the meeting that I had that I was like, I think I'm going to the Steelers.

And the Giants ended up taking me at 12.

Steelers had the 16th pick, maybe.

I think they took Ryan chazier

in that drafts, and just it just was

well.

I

hope I see more of you because you're always entertaining to me.

And I'm not done, I'll tell you that.

I watch sports to be entertained, to waste time in the most elegant way I can.

Do you smoke you one of those?

No, no, I do.

It's too passive.

Pot I use for positive things.

Like

I indulge myself here.

I love it.

but I would never smoke pot and watch football you like cards cards yeah no like like bridge no

cards rummy

rummy bridge that's it yeah those are card games

no

no I mean poker you mean like that I mean yeah I wish I knew how to play poker I don't I mean no is that what you do for fun cards love cards really stimulated my mind it's something I feel like something about playing cards with somebody, whether it's Rummy, whatever it is, you get to tell a lot about that person and their intent.

You get to tell a lot about their decision making.

How do they go about like, okay, I need to get my 3-3 and my 4, but I got to get a pure run, but I have this, but I have that.

What decision am I going to make?

You get to tell a lot about people.

Cards is that it's too much luck involved.

It's like you can't make a three come up.

You can only play the cards you're given, as the saying saying goes isn't that the same in life we're we're all given fucking cards and all i can do is make what i have of what i have

somebody who's poor and doesn't have money but goes out and finds a way to be fucking successful yeah

they reduce a shitty hand but they stemmed it up you know what i'm saying that's how i feel like in life we're all dealt the cards that were dealt exactly and however you deal with that that's how you deal with that no that's the right attitude I agree.

But I just feel like with cards, like in life, you're dealt one hand when you're born.

And that, yeah.

Maybe you're dealt a few other hands along the way.

Maybe you were dealt a better hand.

Sometimes people dealt a shitty hand.

Right.

But I've seen a shitty hand turn out to be a winning hand.

And I've seen a winning hand.

Find a way to be a shitty hand.

Yeah.

And parents have a lot to do with it.

If you have great parents, you were dealt an ace.

And if you have shitty parents, you were dealt a deuce.

But people do overcome that.

But I don't know.

I guess I'm more of a determinist.

I feel like, yes, I know the cards.

Maybe I just have known my cards for such a long time now that I feel like I played them out.

And, you know, in the game of life, did I win 37-12?

No.

I did.

It was not a cream.

I feel like I won the game, but it was more like 24-17.

You know what I mean?

Like, I've had many setbacks and many defeats and many things.

But generally jokes with me and my friends, like it could be 25, 24.

Like I'm going to look at you after we won and be like, I just beat the fuck out of you.

You know what I mean?

Like just to mess with them.

Like, it's like, bro, you won by one point.

No, no, no, no.

I beat the fuck out of you.

Like, it's just that kind of like.

I won, period.

It doesn't matter how it is.

And it's just like, I feel like life is all about perception.

I always say

perception is reality, but like your perception is not my reality.

And once I used to live by everybody else's perception, and you're always trying to please that, as a person, you're always going to find yourself displeased.

And it's never going to be good for you.

So that means it's never going to be good for the people that you're trying to do more for.

It's just,

you got to just,

you got to find your own way in this life.

You know, I feel like

I can't rely on someone to.

know

you've got to rely on you.

That's at the end of the day, it's too late for that.

Yeah.

Well,

but you know, one of the cards that's kind of shitty when you're an athlete is you don't get the longevity card.

Like, I'm still like working my job at the top of my game, and I'm almost 70.

That's not going to happen in sports.

Now, you could go into another field, and you may.

I mean, at some point, even if you play this year, next year,

at some point in the near near future, there are no 40-year-old receivers.

Terry?

Terry?

Jerry Rice?

Jerry Rice was 40.

Really?

Okay.

Well, I wouldn't advise it.

You're going to get hurt.

Well, if you do, you do.

That's what you choose.

You think you should be a receiver at 40?

What you choose?

Okay, well, but not 50.

At some point.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, it's like

come on, bro.

You got a family.

We got kids.

We got cold.

But come on.

Like, what do you want to do when the football ends?

You know, I just want to to be honest, I keep a lot of I keep a lot of my things private because I don't want people to steal my ideas, but like

creating my own, like when I was with Nike,

there was nothing more I wanted to do than

build Nike up.

Build, like, I, I, they used to call me

Mr.

East Bay.

You know what I mean?

Like when I was young.

You remember East Bay catalogs?

Yeah.

Where you had the cleats, the gloves, the everything, blah, blah, blah.

Like.

Where you buy athletic equipment?

Yep.

All I wanted, my mama, when she jockstrops, everything.

I never wore those until I got to leave.

But

never wore a jockstrap?

Yeah, no.

Are you sure it was your mother's running?

Yeah.

Maybe it was that.

But

all I wanted was

that cleat.

The orange, Nike Sherpard,

Nike Mercurial Vapor, that one, the sparkly orange one.

That was it.

Boom.

The David Beckham, Baby Blue, Predator, Sparkler that came out.

Adidas with the strap with the big toe.

Boom.

The Nike Mercurial Christian Ronaldo carbon fiber.

That was like my thing.

Like it was always my thing.

It was something that...

And to be honest, one of my, I actually haven't talked about him a lot.

And I have to give him a major salute.

I was supposed to meet with him recently.

Ronald Dinho was one of the biggest inspirations of my life.

Who?

Ronald Diño.

Who's that?

Soccer player.

The way he fucking played, the smile he had on his face, his movements.

Who does he play for?

Now?

Ever.

For himself, I guess.

You know what I mean?

He played for Barcelona, Brazil.

Oh.

He had the gold Nike Tien pose.

Like, he was...

Where is he from?

He was the man.

Brazil.

Brazil.

Yeah, he was the man.

Like, he's.

Is Is that where the greatest stalker players are from?

Like Pele, wasn't he?

Brazilian?

I think so.

That's like the last one I remember.

I'm not into.

I'm not a historian either myself, but Bernaldinho was somebody who inspired me more than people could ever imagine.

And it's just like,

I'll never forget.

I was talking about meeting your heroes and blah, blah, blah for me, my biggest inspiration is those kids.

The way that they look at me, the way that they wanted to dance, the way that they wanted to do all that.

right that kept me going for a long time because the grown-ass men who have their opinions and feel like they get to say whatever about whatever like that didn't inspire me at some point it's just that it's another man judging me on telling me what i should and shouldn't be when they're not in my position in dealing with i'm what i'm dealing with you know so i'll never forget how mike was for me mike vig

and uh i feel like he truly

what were you what are you saying what are you saying you're dealing with at that time?

When you said, don't judge me, you don't know what I'm dealing with.

What were you dealing with?

Just in general life, like, bro, you don't know what it's like to have everybody watching you and you just want to go into CVS and

get some sour punch straws and Gatorade.

But people want to take a picture.

People also don't know that.

Your G-Ma might have passed on that day and now you don't want to take a picture.

Dang anything that's a, I mean, I...

but now you're the asshole because you didn't want to take a picture, but I'm also, I'm a human, I'm going to take a picture of you.

I understand that very well.

But don't you think,

you know, as we said before, you know, you're dealt different cards.

Some are good, some are bad.

Don't you think the trade-off of that for all the things that fame gets you is worth it?

Wouldn't you, you wouldn't, you wouldn't trade that trade-off, would you?

I understand that, but also, as a human,

I have emotions.

I have things.

Yeah, I do too.

But I'm saying I have things that, like, today might not have been my fucking day.

Like, it might have been a bad day.

But you know how I avoid that?

I don't go to CVS.

And you don't have to either.

You're rich.

You have a bazillion followers.

I feel like.

I feel like any celebrity in CVS wants to be in CVS.

I feel that, but maybe I needed specifically for me.

I needed to go grab that candy.

If it wasn't somebody else, bring them in.

I needed to get it.

You wanted the experience of everyday life.

You need that for me.

Right.

And maybe it's just as simple as that.

Well, tough shit, I don't feel sorry for you.

Well, you're not sorry for me either.

Rodell fucking back the fuck out.

You know what?

You know what?

If you can't go buy your hard candy at CBS, Crimea River.

We live.

And I told you.

We learned.

See,

you learned.

I'm telling you.

You could have told me the stove was hot.

I had the stove.

I could have, but I didn't listen when they told me the stove was hot.

Well, shit.

But it's good to get to know you.

I mean, it's nice to meet your sports idols and find out they're cool because sometimes you meet people who you've only seen from afar and they do the opposite.

They disappoint you.

They're dumber, meaner,

or just arrogant.

And you're cool.

I just feel like at the end of the day, the way my parents raised me, the way whatever happened, whatever my experience is,

like, I'm a real-ass person.

and

I won't change.

And I'm not saying that I won't get better, but I'm saying I won't change

for anybody in that sense, unless it's something that I need to do for me.

I am who I am, for better or for worse.

Like I say, I know my flaws.

I know my good shit.

I know my bad shit.

And I'm okay with that.

When I lay my head at night, I'm okay with that.

If I laid my head at night and I had to be like, damn, I didn't stand for who I was in this moment, that's worse than laying down your head at night, be like, oh, I could lay good because I made everyone else.

Who's your like close friends that you can always rely on when you're having these kind of thoughts?

And, you know, you got to ask about what's real.

And

who can you depend on to tell you the truth and to know the fame lifestyle and all that stuff that you're talking about?

Who do you go to?

I think it's hard because it's like,

so lebron james is one of my lebron james biggest role models idols this that third also a friend brother all that right

to so many people but i'm like sure he understands all that every situation is different

like i can only take a piece from brian i can only take a piece from here a piece from there the same way when i watch alferson i can only take a piece from here the same

person what i'm saying the same way when i like all these people, I can only take a piece and then I'm always going to be myself.

All sports people?

Are those the only people who can understand?

No?

No.

No, you got, you know, regular people.

You got your mom.

Obviously, everyone looks at their mom, their dad, like, you know, growing up as to who I am or how I can understand things.

But like when you're, when you're gifted or, or.

Blessed or I don't know what the word would be, but when you're put in another situation and you have to live in a different way, it's kind of like

you're left to fend for your own at the end of the day.

I understand

truly the downsides to it.

But

most people would say, I would give my right nut.

Yeah, but they didn't have that opportunity.

So they can't.

I would give my right nut to have been 6'6, but God didn't want that for me.

And God knew.

God knew why he didn't make me 6'6 ⁇ .

What are you, 6'3?

three huh you see i like you okay yeah yeah why what are you yeah i mean i like you too we don't need to talk about it but you're an athlete i i'm so you're saying it would be of course you

i would be a whole different man first of all players like tall targets and we and quarterbacks have to be tall now too i think women like tall targets too like you know it just that's true could have been playing a different sport who knows what i would have been if i was 6'6

right

I mean, again, not going to cry for you.

I'm not going to cry for you either.

Like, I think God did that on purpose.

So, you didn't get that last four inches?

No, he had to humble me.

He had to.

But, like, when he was making me, he was like, damn, I did a job, but it was brewing over the pot.

So, he put the pot on the top and he's like, he's got to stop right here.

You would have been too powerful at the same time.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

I think so.

I don't think I would have been as

good of a man as I was if I was a little bit taller.

Is that true?

I think so.

Wow.

I can't think of much that would have gotten better.

I mean, you got to the top of your field professionally.

Yeah, I just think my pride, man, I would be a little bit more like I'd be looking.

Yeah, yeah, a little bit.

You'd literally be looking down on people.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, I'm 5'8.

How do you think I feel?

I mean, well, I've been in.

Put your wallet underneath both feet, man.

How tall are you?

Exactly.

I like that one.

It's not.

You're 6'6 yourself.

Well, I mean,

I mean, that's...

I hear guys say things like that all the time.

But I guess when you have a kid like you do, it's...

I always said before I ever had my son, I said, I fear the day that I have to raise a child in this world.

Well, I hope you're a traditional parent.

have a dim view of modern parenting.

Not that I am one, but I'm not oblivious to what it looks like because I see these little rap scallions around me sometimes when I'm out and so forth, and they have no respect for their parents.

I don't take any shit from your kid.

It'll make your life and the kids' life better.

For sure.

I'll take a little shit from him, though.

Sometimes he gives you that look, and it's like, damn it, like I'm looking at you, I'm looking at you, but I'm looking at me, and I'm like, right.

But every now and then,

but he's three, you know, come on.

He's three.

I'm sure that's a great kid, though.

There's no

turning down a three-year-old, I'm guessing.

But when he gets a little older, he gets to keep him away from social media too much.

By that time, it might be

implanted in their brains.

Yes, it might be implanted in our brains, and the robots are going to take over.

Yeah, they got a bunch of them.

Just do that.

You need those hands.

I know, these are very famous hands.

Keep it strong.

Bro, yeah.

I hate giving my left again, but it's tonight.

I mean it.

I know it's my fuck you finger, too.

I wouldn't have squosed it.

I would have gave you the little.

Okay.

Well,

thank you.

I free.

This was so much fun.

Oh, that's right.

You aren't tall.

Oh, well, even better on you for succeeding in sports.

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Bifortis, nercevimab ALIP, is the first and only long-acting preventative antibody that gives babies the RSV antibodies they lack.

Baphortis is a prescription medicine used to help prevent serious lung disease caused by RSV or respiratory syncytial virus in babies under age one born during or entering their first RSV season and children up to 24 months who remain at risk of severe RSV disease through their second RSV season.

Your baby shouldn't receive Baphortis if they have a history of serious allergic reactions to Bifortis, Nursevimab ALIP, or any of its ingredients.

Tell your baby's doctor about any medicines they're taking and all their medical conditions, including bleeding or bruising problems.

Serious allergic reactions have happened.

Get medical help right away if your child has any of the following signs or symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, such as swelling of the face, mouth, or tongue, difficulty swallowing or breathing, unresponsiveness, bluish color of skin, lips, or underfingernails, muscle weakness, severe rash, hives, or itching.

Most common side effects include rash and pain, swelling, or hardness at their injection site.

Individual results may vary.

Ask your baby's doctor about Bayfortis.

Visit Bayfortis.com or call 1-855-BEFORTIS.