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He's getting close, man.

Wait, this tattoo.

Oh, this tattoo.

Oh, property of Jaruel.

Wait, shit.

Bill, man, how you doing?

Did he arrive?

I'm here, man.

Sorry I'm late, bro.

All right, bro.

How are you?

I'm very well, man.

man.

Are you?

Oh.

Fucking epic.

Thanks for having me.

Oh, thanks for being here.

This is great.

I was going to wear one of these myself.

I was going to wear that.

Oh, well, you chaps.

I was going to wear that.

This is as good as I can do.

I like it, man.

It's cool.

Thanks, bro.

Where are you from?

I'm from Doncaster, England.

Wow, I knew England.

Doncaster, I don't know that one.

No one knows it.

I always say Manchester to Americans.

It's Manchester?

No, it's not.

It's like an hour away, but...

You must be having a great fucking time.

I got to say, there's got to be nothing better in life than being a rising rock star.

You know, I think it's a good thing.

You know, because in 10 years, you'll be jaded.

Really?

Do you think I'll get jaded?

Everybody does.

Really?

Yes.

This is the golden hour.

Like, you're...

You know, you're not on everybody's radar yet.

I'm smiling at a minute.

I'm having a good time.

I bet you fucking.

I'm fucking taking it.

It's like a rocket at the minute.

Especially in America.

You are crazy, aren't you?

You're loud and shit.

I love it.

More than England?

More than

London.

It's a little bit different.

Like

in London, it's a bit more jumpy.

In America, it's really screamy.

The gigs, everyone's like, ah.

But you live in London now, I bet.

I live in London now.

See, of course.

Everybody moves to London.

I like London.

Do you like London?

Well, of course, everybody likes London.

I mean, you know,

it's super expensive.

Yeah, I don't leave Camden Town.

You just live in.

Yeah.

And it's okay.

I live in Miappy Bubble.

Exactly.

Well, I mean, you have a giant.

Cheers, man.

Great to see you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Blood.

Thank you, man.

Hey, how did you get that name?

Because, like, I always think that there's,

you know, there's certain people who like have two names.

Strippers.

Yeah.

The Pope.

It's fair.

The Pope.

I mean, the Pope has a stripper name.

Pope's name is Bob, stripper name Leo.

Yeah, I'm telling you.

What would your stripper name be?

Mine would be Onyx.

What?

I've always thought I would be a good Onyx.

Now, I'd have to fight the other Onix in the club for it.

Yeah, I feel that.

Because I'm older, I'd probably be original Onyx.

I like that.

You don't want that.

OG Onyx.

OG Onyx.

You don't want that.

I love that, man.

Shaking that thing.

But like, Youngblood's a great name.

It's a good...

Do you know what?

I didn't come up with it myself, which is sad.

But I remember

I had an older manager,

and I thought, I was just like, I can't call myself.

My name's Dominic Harrison, and that sounds too polite.

It sounds like a barrister.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It does sound like a lawyer, doesn't it?

Well, do they still wear those wigs?

Yeah, they do.

I think if you're a barrister, right, you work so hard to get the wig.

It's like what you fucking put on your it's what you put on your wall, man.

I mean, maybe this is just because I'm an American, but I feel like if I was on trial in England and they brought me into the courtroom and I saw the dude with the wig, I would it would be a hard not to lol.

Yeah,

I'd just be like,

but you'd be shitting yourself because you're facing fucking five years in prison or something.

I mean, you gotta say.

You gotta something for sticking with the tradition.

Do you know what?

I think the wig's a gangster.

I like the wigs, but that's because I'm English, english innit i've been conditioned that way yeah no i'm just saying there's something to be said and probably something to be said against uh like sticking with some

just because we've already already always done it i was just in japan yesterday

yesterday yesterday yeah i've just landed from japan wow well i really appreciate you no thank you for having thank you for having me and you're not jet-lagged i'm i'm i'm not really sleeping at the minute i'm just kind of getting it when i can

when you're you're 28, you can do that.

Yeah, just like keep going.

Because we're in Japan and I've not slept in three days.

That can be a kind of a high.

Yeah.

Keith Richards used to do it on purpose.

No, I'm vibing.

Honestly, because the first night I got there, I was lying in bed anxious.

So the next three nights, I thought, instead of being in bed anxious, let's just stay out.

And we went out in Japan.

And honestly, your fucking carpet don't look the same when you come back from Japan.

Why?

What do you mean?

It's just mad, isn't it?

It's just like three, like fucking total 180.

I love it.

What is Japan like?

I don't know.

You're in Tokyo?

Extremely respectful, yet after dark, the craziest fucking place you've ever been to.

Well, respectful, but there is a lot of groping on the subject.

That's fucking weird.

Yeah.

Do you know what?

I don't

honestly, like,

it's a bit fucking weird, innit?

Well, they also sell used panties.

Do you know what?

I went to

the bar the other night and we were like, it was like an arcade bar and it was fucking great.

But I thought that was a myth.

And then my mate said, get a load of this.

It's like used nickers in a vending machine.

Did you get some?

No, I didn't bother, but my mate did.

My mate tried for like two hours.

I was like, and then we pulled them out.

And then they weren't really used.

It was a scam.

I was guessing.

Bullshit.

You can't sell it.

You're not really going to do that.

If you're going to say they're used, sell used, I find that just disgusting.

Yeah.

I mean, and you know.

They weren't really used.

It was bollocks.

And how would you tell if they were used?

You'd probably smell them.

There'd be an odor, yeah.

I mean, because that's really what they're going for anyway, right?

Yeah.

I mean, anyone can go to, I can go to fucking CVS and buy panties.

Exactly.

Like I did yesterday.

But my mate smelled them and he said, no, they smell clean as a whistle.

So

they were like,

vibing.

Boy, you think you have respect for a country.

You're fine.

No one.

But then the food's beautiful, innit?

And the people are fucking legendary.

What are you doing?

What are these people like?

I mean, they're...

Do you know what?

It's so fun because.

They're reserved.

So you walk up to stage, and normally like in the UK or here, when you walk into the arena, it's like, ah, of course.

It's fucking dead silent.

And it's like a stadium of people outside.

And I'm like, is there anyone there?

Like, yeah, it's rammed.

And then they do this thing thing in between

songs where they go like, yeah.

And they just fucking drop the applause.

So you kind of just like, whoa, and it's like completely silent.

So you feel awkward, but it's not awkward at all.

It's actually really beautiful.

But we nearly got arrested there last time when, because after COVID,

I remember we were we were on stage and this guy goes on this radio host before we went on and starts talking and starts going,

What I'm really worried about this next act

because there was a ban on mosh pitting and screaming at concerts after COVID.

Extremely weird because obviously, what you obviously are going to scream at a concert, but not in Japan, apparently.

But this guy goes on stage and he goes, I'm extremely worried about this next performer

because

I've seen his live shows.

Whatever you do, remember, do not mosh or scream or jump.

Watch the show.

Now I'm backstage, and he's also speaking in fucking Japanese.

So I'm saying to the lads, I'm going, yo,

we better fucking nail this.

He's giving us a two and a half minute talk up.

He's probably saying, like, this guy's from England.

He's going to blow your fucking mind.

Get ready to jump and get ready to go fucking crazy.

And that's what I think he's saying.

But what he's saying is, do not do anything so i run out i'm going

fucking talking you motherfuckers

and and and the front row i can see it on the face are kind of just like like really juxtaposed because they've been told not to but you know when you tell a kid not to fucking

fucking take a piss on the lawn you want to take a piss on the lawn don't you so like when you do it you're like fucking yes i'm taking a piss on the lawn and then and then they went extra crazy and i got off stage and the police waiting for us and I'm like what's going on they're like we we told you that you're not allowed to do that I was like I don't speak Japanese

well like I said cultures are different telling you cultures

and they were like because they were proper naughty and they knew they would be naughty so they went extra crazy I got to tell you this thing with Japan goes back all the way to the Beatles when the Beatles played Japan They had the exact same reaction you just said.

They were like, whoa, everywhere in the world except france the only country that didn't go for the beatles everywhere in the world france is a funny one man it's a funny one have you played there i've they love us in france which is always hit or miss honestly i remember going to my french label once and they were like so there is two things they will either love you or not and i'm like oh and they're like so today you go on tv we see i'm like fucking hell No pressure.

First time I went to France, they were just like, you're either going to be loved here or not.

Yeah,

you look like somebody they would like.

I think it's the makeup.

You mean the makeup of your personality?

Nah, the eyeliner.

Oh, your actual.

Nah, my actual makeup, my name.

The actual makeup.

I love the French as well.

Do you know why I love the French?

Because they're straight up.

Honestly, I love Paris.

Come on, rude.

I love rude people.

Because they're not lying.

There's nothing worse than a liar.

You know what?

I have been called that kind of person.

100%.

I'd rather be.

Because I am a person.

I've seen it.

I've seen it.

I've been watching these.

I was like, we'll see what happens on this.

And I'm not rude.

I'm just honest.

And yes, when you're honest, people don't like it.

That's right.

And I agree.

It's so funny.

It's like, can I

go to a copy of a cappuccino?

No.

All right.

Fuck.

Okay.

All right.

I'll get a fucking Americano.

No.

Can I get a fucking tea?

No.

Right.

What can I get then?

You're right.

I like that.

I like that.

There's no bullshit.

There's no small talk.

There's no, I mean, I've been in countries, I won't say which ones, but

where there's sort of a passive aggressive

element

to, yes, the native population really doesn't like coming there.

All right, really fair.

And

so,

I mean, the people are actually lovely people, but you can also find a kind of a passive-aggressive, you know, you get into a cab and ask how far it is to go to the, you know, whatever, and they give you one number.

And when you get there, it's three times as much.

Oh, really?

And you're like, wait a second.

You said, and they're like, oh, no.

You must say, okay, do whatever you want.

You must have misunderstood.

You know, it's a very passive aggression.

Fuck.

I don't know.

I'm just saying I've had.

I've never experienced that.

Again, I think it's except wearing makeup.

I think I'm a bit more, I must be a bit more friendly.

And what friendly?

And when you do, I mean, you're obviously, you know, I always think people are just very often born a certain thing.

And it's like there's a look like agents have.

And

you look at a guy and he's like, that guy's an agent.

I just know he is.

And you're like, you're a rock star.

Like, it was just, you just looked like you were born to the manor.

I'm guessing you never really considered anything else.

No, for me.

You certainly never studied.

Do you know what?

I loved history, though.

I wanted to be a mate.

If this didn't work out, I wanted to be an archaeologist.

An archaeologist.

I loved the Romans and shit.

I do too.

And the Greeks.

Have you ever studied them?

I mean, in school I did, and then I loved World War I and World War II.

So you skipped everything between the Romans?

Yeah, everything else was boring to me.

I think I like some shit.

I could bore you to death, but it would be really interesting about the Middle Ages.

You'd like the Middle Ages.

Oh, yeah.

Talk about people being honest.

Yeah, fuck you.

I mean, there was.

I like that vibe as well.

And if, yeah, it was music or history.

And I'll never forget my history teacher.

She was gorgeous.

I used to fancy my history teacher.

It might have been because she was really beautiful, that I fell in love with history.

But I always used to fancy my history teacher.

And I remember telling her, I'm leaving school to go and start a rock band.

How old are you?

15.

15.

And she was pissed.

She was like, why?

You're going to throw your life away.

You could be a historian.

See, if this was Florida, she just would have fucked you.

Because that's what we do here in America.

Fuck, man.

I wish I would have lived in Florida.

And honestly, I proper fancied her.

I thought she was gorgeous.

Apple for teacher, very English.

Does that ever happen in England?

Because it has.

No, no, I mean, it does.

It happens a lot here.

You don't get away with it in England.

It's a very, very...

Well, you don't get away with it here,

but it does happen quite a bit.

We're a

we're, I'm talking about female teachers who are like mid-twenties.

And they fuck, there's one in the news today,

an 11-year-old.

Oh, no, that's fucked up, man.

And she said,

I swear to God.

Nah, I hate that.

That makes me mad.

Okay, well, that makes me angry.

Don't fucking come with me with that shit.

Let me turn this into Tokyo.

Come on.

But

I swear to God, she said, he came on to me.

Nah, fuck that bullshit.

I know, but you've got to just give it up for an 11-year-old.

No way.

Having game.

No, yeah, I mean, fair.

I mean, okay, so 11 is too young.

But

100% by like

10 years.

Your teacher's never hit on you like that.

No, no, no.

I don't know.

I fancied her.

That's all I knew.

You know what I mean?

I was like, fucking hell.

But then maybe it's because she's

a teacher.

I wrote her a song when I left school.

Oh, my God.

And what was the upshot of it?

Focal.

Did she ever say that?

She didn't say niche.

Really?

Nothing.

Maybe the song wasn't good.

Yeah, I agree.

I mean, mean, you're 15.

I'm telling you, I think the song was shit.

What was the song?

Do you remember it?

I've got a clue.

You don't remember.

Goodbye.

Thank you.

I love you.

It's probably pretty fucking creepy, to be honest.

Do you know the song To Sir With Love?

No, who's that?

You'd love it and you should sing it.

What song is it?

It was a song in the six.

There was a movie called To Sir With Love with Sidney Poitier.

Do you know who that is?

No, I don't.

He was the first African-American,

I think he was from the islands originally, but he was

a gorgeous black man who was like the first black movie star.

Sick.

In the 60s, you know, when race was in a very different place in the 90s.

But he was still, he made a famous movie called Guess Who's Coming to Dinner in 1967, where the white girl falls for him and takes him home.

And it's like, Guess who's coming to dinner?

It's like, oh my gosh.

And that was very controversial, but handled very deftly.

And

he did this movie called To Sir With Love took place in England and he was a teacher there and then you know he you know they obviously at the beginning there's racism the kids what is this this is in the 60s when there was no black people in London as opposed today where it's mostly a multiracial city

And

the girl, the white girl, you know, has a huge crush on him and sings this song, which was a big hit by Lulu and it's still one of my favorites

you know who that is yeah fucking met do you know I met Lulu at the Royal Albert O watching the who she must be 80 yeah she was hot still I thought she's really cute she's like I'm Lulu I'm like you're fucking Lulu well that's her big song yeah what's that to Sir With Love oh that's Lulu

All right and then it's a those girl because Lulu's Scottish isn't she she

might be she married a bee gee yeah fair I think she's Scottish.

I remember seeing it at the album.

Oh, and she says, I'm Lulu.

I'm like, you're Lulu?

Fucking hell.

Yeah, I love that vibe.

And she, you know, the song is so beautiful.

Those schoolgirl days of telling tales and biting nails are gone.

And she's singing to this, you know, how can I thank someone who has taken me from crayons to perfume?

Oh, wow.

Beautiful.

Oh, I'm lying.

Oh, the whole thing is.

And it's a great song, and it's a song for someone who can really sing.

Oh my god, that's badass.

What's it called?

I'm going to write it down.

Too sir with love.

Too sir with love.

And see the movie because it takes place in your neck of the woods.

Too sir with love.

I mean, I've written it down in my notes.

I swear.

No, I will.

I'm not going to bullshit you.

I'm very disappointed if you don't sing the movie.

Next time I see you, I'll be singing it.

And even if you don't put it out commercially, just you're in the studio.

Make it and send it to me.

All right, cool.

I'll do it for Christmas.

I mean, thank you.

Little bow on it.

Because I have her version and then Al Green.

You know who Al Green is?

is yeah no al green is yeah he did a version oh did he yes wow an r b version that's awesome um i love that man so you know some of those old uh yeah i look i love all that i mean my vibe was like i grew up on because i me my old man and me granddad had a guitar shop

so i grew up in a guitar shop so i grew up on all like screaming jay hawkins and muddy waters and bow diddley all the old

the old blue stuff and then like into the studios and the stones and bowie and shit.

That's what I grew up on.

And then like a lot of Brit Pop.

I mean, I have no use for that old blues stuff, quite frankly, but I'm sure it's wonderful music, but I love what other generations did with it, quite frankly.

I mean, you know, they just made it more commercial.

Yeah.

I mean, the Eric Clapton

and the Stones

were totally raised on that.

And that's what they were doing.

That's what I love about the Stones when they were like, we've got to bring Muddy on TV.

Because they won't let muddy on TV.

Do you hear about that?

First time they went on TV, they were like, we've got to bring muddy on TV.

Oh, we're not doing it.

How sick is that?

That's gangsters.

Yeah, that is.

That's sick as fuck.

No, they, they, all those British bands who borrowed so generously from America and our roots, and especially the black artists, were very cognizant of trying to pay it back.

I mean, Keith Richards did that whole special with

Chuck Berry.

Yeah, I mean, that's so funny.

That's fucking loud.

When Chuck, when he's like playing it wrong, Chuck's getting mad at him, Keith's like, what do you fucking mean, man?

I can't fucking do it.

Chuck Berry, God bless him, being always Chuck Berry.

His attitude wasn't like, thank you so much.

No,

totally

epic.

Right.

And Keith was like taking it like, yeah, man, what the fuck?

That's Chuck Berry.

It was an early version of what I'm sure is a very legitimate thing that black folks feel what they call now white saviorism.

You know, like, don't think you're my fucking savior.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that, and so I think it, it's, it smelled like that to Chuck Berry, even though

Keith Richard, it was, he had this.

I think Keith was coming at it from like a fan perspective.

And

a wonderful, beautiful perspective of, yes, I want to

acknowledge that we didn't invent this.

No, we are standing on the shoulders

of you guys.

And Chuck was like, shut the fuck up.

Fuck you.

When is my call time over?

And where's my money in that cash?

Get out of me, fucking

stage.

Thank you, Whitey.

And I just love that they could.

I'm telling you, Keith was fully just like, yeah, man, I love you.

I fucking love you, man.

I love when people are just exactly saying what they think.

I agree.

That's why I was.

That's why I love the frame.

You know, let's just, yeah.

Yeah.

So I love the fucking phrase.

friends.

Let's not waste time.

I agree.

Too much of time.

Too much of life is lateral movement.

Whenever you're

doing small talk or saving feelings, which sometimes is certainly appropriate, but for just

everything, you're just moving laterally.

Whereas I like to move forward.

I agree.

The thing about it is, I think, say what, like no matter what, even if you don't agree with people, say what you think and you'll probably have a better time.

Even if like you have a disagreement at a party or you don't fucking politically understand someone, or you don't whatever.

I just think, like, the way you move forward together is you debate it out and you're honest.

And I think, like, I respect that, or I think you, I think you're talking shit.

You know, I mean, I like that vibe.

Do you like tequila?

I'm drinking it.

I fucking hate tequila, mate.

I'm trying.

I fucking hate it.

Well, then, don't drink it.

I know, I agree.

I agree with you.

No, I agree.

What do you drink?

I used to drink beer, but

i i i i kind of got rid of my tits you know i mean i started riding your tits like i was i used to be a bit chunkier so now i switched to vodka

no you look very um

uh

well yeah in good shape uh like androgynous uh bowie of course thin white duke man thin white juke when he had that fin white duke era jew juke ju oh d-u-k-8

i love it

no No, Finn White Duke.

G-U- Yes.

He's the Finn White Duke, one of his great characters.

Epic, man.

Do you know he lived on green peppers and cocaine and milk to be the Finn White Duke?

Well, not his whole life.

No, for like a year.

Oh, for a year.

In Berlin.

Green?

Just to try it out.

He lived in Berlin?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I think I lived.

And he took Iggy there, and I think he took Lou Reed there for Transformer.

I think.

I don't know about Lou, but I definitely know about Iggy.

Iggy has got to stop performing with his shirt off.

I like Iggy, man.

I saw him in the corner.

I do too.

But, you know, there is an expiration date on that.

No, I think it's kind of some Richard, like Richard III shit.

Like, Shakespeare, kind of, like, I think that's kind of what he's going for.

I know.

Richard III performed with his shirt off?

What do you mean?

No, man, like the kind of scoliosis and the fucking, like...

the beauty and the ugly kind of vibe.

Well, beauty and the ugly, okay, if that's what we're going to do.

I'm going to talk about Iggy.

I'm wearing his pants right now you want to see I'm not gonna take me pants off I'm just gonna show you look

these got made in the in the I don't know when but they say Iggy in them look Crow Mart's made these pants look

Iggy and your boyfriend's name is Calvin Klein

and Wait what's this tattoo

this tattoo oh this tattoo here oh property of Jaruel wait sure you

you're funny I like you you're funny as i'm telling you we're gonna get on well that's the first uh time we've had someone drop truck i'm not dropping child you

i've had one guest who did the show like this i mean we have some interesting things that i'm saying i'm telling you there's i was just like we brought up biggie so i've got so where do you get those pants are these chrome arts No Chrome arts?

Is there a rock star store like this?

So basically that, yeah, I think it's this company.

It's the rock star store.

And that's in England?

No, it's handmade in America.

Yeah!

Because the best thing about rock stars is I've learned two things meeting all the older rock stars.

You pick two avenues, and that is pirate or cowboy.

Interesting.

And I pick cowboy.

Oh, I was going to say pirate, but...

Fuck off.

What do you mean a pirate?

Well, I mean,

I make up like that's certainly piratey.

Yeah, fair.

That is kind of pirate.

But like,

this is pirate-y.

Chaps.

No, No, it's chapsy.

Chaps.

Okay, pirates might wear this, the chairs.

And cowboys don't.

Oh, really?

No?

I mean, leather, yes, you needed chaps.

All right, fair.

So I'm a bit of a mix of both.

Yeah,

which I think is better.

I'm into that vibe, yeah.

Yeah, fair.

I'll take that.

I'm a pirate cowboy.

I've normally been only the cowboy vibe, but I'm into pirate cowboy.

Right.

Taylor.

Well, what they have in common is that

pirates and cowboys are, of course, both sort of bad boys.

Yeah, they're on the run.

And they're making their own rules.

Yeah.

You know.

But, you know, it's not like the cowboys didn't have to get the cows to market.

No, I don't.

I mean, they had a job.

I'm having fun, mate.

I'm telling you.

Can I just stop and say, I'm having fun.

I'm having a lot of fun here.

It's what we do here.

I'm telling you, I check like this fuck, and I just come from Japan and I'm like, I'm having fun.

Good.

I want you to have fun.

No guest here doesn't.

It's impossible.

I won't let it happen.

I can tell this man cave's incomplete.

Well, you know, it's like,

like, why the fuck are we?

I love it.

Yeah, I do.

We could be in any era.

We could be.

You know what I mean?

You're right.

It almost feels futuristic, but it could be the 60s.

Do you know what I mean?

That's what I like about this room.

Yes.

Yeah, no.

Sometimes places just have an aura to them.

And I'm not one of those touchy-feely guys.

I'm an atheist.

You know, I don't believe in religion.

Fair.

Why are you the same thing?

I don't know, man, because I was baptized.

Well, so was I, but I was.

I was baptized as a kid.

A kid.

An infant.

Yeah, like fucking.

So you had no say in it.

I don't know, man.

For me, like, my vibe is

sometimes I can't explain magic, especially being in a rock and roll band.

The amount of magic that I,

I don't know, come across or feel.

Right.

Or something that happens in my belly or when you step outside in front of 20,000 people, or

I just think it can't be just, I don't know if I want to believe in that's just it.

Like, I feel like some

something somewhere there's a higher fucking power.

That's what I think.

That's my vibe.

Like, I think I've seen too much

love and magic and

unexplainable shit.

Well, definitely unexplainable.

You know what I mean?

Or like something's written.

I don't fucking know.

Well, you know what I mean?

I think, I think, or maybe that's just a coping mechanism.

That's possible too.

Like,

if you say it's written to yourself, like, I'm terrible at sleeping.

Like, especially with what's going on at me, you mean, like, the one you were talking about earlier when you're kind of on the rise and people.

Your life is too exciting to go to sleep.

I'm fucking in bed.

Like.

Right.

I don't blame you.

You should be.

What the fuck?

Right.

And

don't get into any sort of pill to help you sleep.

No, I don't.

Because that's good.

Because that, of all the drugs, trust me, of all the drugs, those are the most addictive.

The ones where you start out with this dose, but you always need more.

Yeah, man.

Cocaine is like that in reverse.

Joe, I don't really do Coke.

I've never done cocaine.

That's good too.

I've got ADHD.

It sends me to sleep.

Did it once, fell asleep.

The Coke put you to sleep.

Yeah.

Yeah, I totally understand that.

Drugs, people think that's crazy.

They think pot keeping me up is crazy because people mostly use it to go to sleep but it has yeah no no no no everyone's different honestly if i smoke a bit of weed it makes me it makes me awake can't do it would you like to no man i can't it makes me max my mind runs at a million miles an hour if i have any of that i'm like bing bing bing so you never write a song on pot no i do i'll do a little bit of hash

that's that's that's the same drug really small bit of the hash no because it's a different vibe isn't it Well, pots like makes me like, whoa.

It's the same drug.

It's the pot is just, hash is just pot.

Hash is a bit more like.

But I'm telling you,

it's all THC.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just that hash is like they took pot and they squeezed it.

If I do that shit, I just like become

stupid.

No, no, no.

I never encourage people to smoke.

Because

if you gave me some of that now, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to.

I'll be like, what?

Well, no, we don't want that.

No, we don't want that.

No, and we're not going to get it.

No fun for anyone.

I'm going to be watching.

I'm like, what a fucking cunt.

Okay.

We're not giving you pot.

I'm damned.

I'm into it.

I'm into it.

I just picked it up.

Okay, Mr.

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Yeah, sorry.

Thank you, sir.

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And it's great that you don't do drugs

because usually this is the thing right at this moment in your career and your ascent and all the, this is exactly what, I mean has killed, literally killed so many

rock stars.

I mean, Amy Winehouse and Jimi Hendrix and Jalen John.

Yeah, the Jim Morrison.

What's interesting, the thing for me is if I ever do drugs, it takes the fun out of the main event.

And the main event is going on stage.

Right.

If you're on drugs,

you're never gonna like...

If I walk up the stage, you lose everything.

You lose.

The best thing about being on stage is you feel multiple things.

You feel excited.

You feel

turned on.

You feel grateful.

You feel full of love.

You feel full of anger.

You feel a million different things at once.

Sexual.

Yeah, sexual, everything.

Right.

You feel every fucking sensory thing in your head at once.

If you're on drugs, then

you're on drugs.

Like, you feel on, like, there's only one feeling when you're on drugs, and that's I'm on drugs.

Well, do you know what I mean?

It's like, it's like, if you're like, if you're at a festival and you take something, you're like, oh, I know where I'm at right now.

Whereas I would rather remain a little bit more pure so I feel a bit because if if it's if it numbed or changed me being on stage, I think that'd be

brutal.

Well, again, it affects everybody differently.

For some people, I would think I am one of them.

I mean, I could take a drug that made me only think that I was on drugs, but like this drug, it doesn't, it just enhances tension.

To me, that's not a drug, though.

That's a plant.

That was like God-given.

No, it's a drug.

If it makes you feel different, it's a drug.

Yeah, fair, fair.

Okay.

I mean, everything is a plant.

Yeah, I know, you're right.

Every drug originally comes from something.

Sometimes they take it to a lab and make it into a pill, but it came from a plant.

Okay.

It wasn't just what?

I mean, I'm just fucking about.

I do that when I'm just like fucking vibing.

Okay, I'm a viber, man.

You keep me talking.

Sometimes I'll make faces.

Okay, good.

You enjoy.

But like, this to me is just, it takes whatever I'm feeling and just kind of puts it on the moving walkway at the airport.

You know, you're like, you're going in there.

Yeah, you're floating.

You float.

You're not floating, but you're fun.

You know, that thing you feel like.

The thing about that is it enhances any feeling.

So like

that's why you can't take it to go to bed.

Or if you're sad.

Yeah.

It makes you more sad.

People don't realize that.

Yeah.

My dog died a week ago.

What kind of dog was it?

A dead one now.

Fair.

Uh, no, a little uh, I don't know, he was a mutt with one eye.

Oh, fucking sick.

We just got a cat with one eye called Scar.

It had one eye when you got him?

Yeah.

Oh,

she's a she at ledge.

Oh, why did you get yours taken out?

Well, he had a fight with a car and did not win it.

Oh, fuck.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, but that was like, he lived for the what was his name?

Chico.

Chico, the pirate.

Yeah, Chico.

Oh, he was.

I mean, Chico, if you you know, you could just look at him and know, this, this dog did time.

Really?

Yeah, this dog did time.

Just a little bit fucking.

And it didn't bug him.

I mean, he was great.

I mean, he would bite you if you tried to pet him.

I mean, he wasn't.

Especially when you're drunk.

People forget if you're drunk and you try and go to a dog, they feel weird because you're not yourself.

Honestly, the most I heard the most amount of dog bites come from, you know, for example, say like you've been out with your mates and the dog's there and you kind of come over like you you're more abrupt you're less cautious you're less respectful so he'll bite you i read something about that that may be true and i got bitten loads of times drunk by dogs this dog would just bite me always i mean only after only after where

if i'm just saying if you reached out to pet him on the head because of the one eye he after before he had the one eye he was fine but then he he just got scared because he couldn't see so and chica was not the kind of dog to give warning you know some some dogs were like

chica was like no warning we go right to biting so it was line up you know i used to always say to him chico i'll pet you when you're dead and then last week i got the chance and then people said to me you know oh you should smoke some pot i'm like no it just would make it worse it would enhance my sadness yeah you'd be like it was it's gonna take whatever i feel and put it on steroids yeah yeah make it 15 times accurate why i actually do steroids no i'm kidding I was like you take steroids no I fucking

thought your arms looking a bit fucking big when you came in no no but you look like you could jump around the stage I like yeah yeah I love I mean I've seen clips of you I'm obsessed with it you know we've got a guy over here Benson Boone

what yeah he's funny him he's what he's funny he's funny he's funny

a funny haha makes me laugh oh why I don't know he's funny with his mustache and shit oh yeah yeah.

He does kind of look like Doug Henning in the 70s.

Yeah, he looks like a 70s porn star.

Or a magician.

Yeah, he does.

It's really just like, what's in the heart?

What's in the heart?

I'm telling you.

But he's all alone now, but he's funny.

But he's also very talented.

Yeah, he's a great singer, but he makes me laugh.

And he jumps around.

I don't know if he thinks his mustache is funny or not.

I'm telling you, he might know what we don't.

I bet he's like, yo, I look like a porn star.

Sick.

That's a very good question.

Is he doing it ironically?

I think so.

You know what I think he's doing it?

It's like, you know, he's a rock star now.

He's jumping around the stage.

He's that age.

It's like, you have to have something to keep the bitches away.

It's not Jeremy.

Otherwise, he's pushing too many girls.

Oh, yeah, he's.

You know, it's like something to turn off some percentage of.

I wish I could fucking grow a mustache.

I can't.

You can't grow a mustache.

You can't grow a mustache.

Come on.

Tonya.

I ain't got shit.

I ain't even got chest level.

Nothing.

You got a little around your ears.

A little bit of fucking frills.

Well, maybe you, but it's the rock star thing.

Tony.

I mean, Mick Jagger.

But Jim Morrison had a good friend.

Mick Jagger

is 112 years old.

Yeah.

And he has the exact same like 28-inch waist he had.

That is just someone who was born a rock star.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, the Rolling Stones, they're amazing because

they never put on weight.

Even when they got, you know, one of them got cancer, they didn't lose their hair.

Yeah, my vibe is

good.

That's what I'm saying.

Like,

I just, my vibe is that I gotta be a little bit good because

I think from my mum's side, I get a bit, a little bit of tub on.

So I've got to

watch what I eat.

But I that's not much of a.

No, a little bit.

I'm saying, like, that's, you don't want to be machine or mick, man.

They just kept it tight, didn't they?

You know what I mean?

Naturally.

You don't want to be machine gun Kelly.

Well,

he looks too emaciated.

And I like

skinny and thin.

I keep myself as thin as possible at my age.

I thought that I got a bit too skinny this year.

I was like, fucking hell.

You can.

No.

I like looking a bit like

I'm down a fucking ride.

You know what I mean?

Ariana Grande has a new fast food restaurant.

It's called Look at the Box.

Fucking Ariana Grande, man.

She's a cutie fat.

Okay, but she could put on a couple of pounds.

And that's something.

Do you know what?

Do you know what I knew Ariana Grande?

I'd bring her back to Yorkshire and give her a couple of Yorkshire puddings.

Would that do the trick?

I'm telling you.

Yeah.

Cuddle on Yorkshire puddings.

Give her a cuddle.

Give her a fucking cuddle.

Take her to the cold and give her a couple of Yorkshire puddings.

I'm sure you'll be doing duets with her soon.

She's got a good voice, you know.

And so do you.

I mean, people want to work with you.

Yeah.

What?

I don't know.

I just fucking did it again.

I just have these sporadic fucking things, man.

That's fine.

He said you've got a good voice.

It's not like singing.

It's sort of like a delightful version of Tourette's.

Yeah, it's fully like that.

Tourette's delightful.

Tourette's about the fucks.

Yeah, you don't want to do that.

But this is good.

But I mean,

people of

a certain caliber talent only want to work with people who are equal.

Yeah, 100%.

Which is understandable.

And that's when it makes sense as well.

You know what I mean?

I think when you're kind of looking for a collaboration,

you want to be able to stand next to someone on stage and almost shit yourself to be like, oh, are they going to be better than me?

You want that healthy competition, don't you?

You want a healthy competition, yes.

And you also want to feel like you're not slumming.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

You want to feel like you're with people who are on your level.

Yeah, on your way, and on your level, 100%.

You know, I mean, because, you know, life is not a democracy.

Talent is not meted out,

you know according just to whoever wants it it it's sad to say lots of people would love to be a rock star i'm sorry you didn't pull that in the lottery yeah you know i mean

it's it's it's it's it's it's a funny one in it i think i think it's i i

i yeah i love it i love being on stage it's awesome of course i mean it's great because you can you imagine your life if you really were an archaeologist

yeah i think you're right i think i'd be a weird i think i'd be i'd probably be a tv TV archaeologist.

A TV?

Even that, I mean, you'd have to do the real work.

You'd have to go on.

No one would let me be on TV because I'm like, I mean, look at the fucking pyramids, man.

Okay, well.

The fucking Roman shield.

It's fucking.

You wouldn't even be at the pyramids.

No, I.

The pyramids would be a fucking Ramada compared to where you would be, which would be in the middle of fucking nowhere because archaeologists are looking for the bones

of our human ancestors.

Yeah, I know, you're right.

You know, I mean, like.

Because we all think it's going to be like the mummy and shit.

You know, that film, the mummy.

I watched it on the plane back from Japan.

Really?

The CGI is so bad on that film.

Honestly, when I was a kid, I was like, what the fuck?

Right.

It's terrible now.

But I watched the mummy.

I was like, I could have been an archaeologist, but definitely wouldn't be that momentum.

I mean, they spend decades, literally, sometimes.

Sweating, scratching your ass, trying to find a fucking.

Scratching in the dirt.

Yeah.

And like, you, of course, only hear about the successes.

Yeah.

Like, do you know who Lucy is?

No.

Who's Lucy?

You said that like the French.

No.

Fuck no.

Fuck, who's Lucy?

Lucy is a skeleton of our, really, what they think is our first really humanoid ancestor.

All right, cool.

Two and a half million years ago.

Shit, wow.

Yeah.

What'd to find out?

She's about.

Oddly at your pub.

No, I'm fucking telling you, Mark.

No, in

East Africa.

Oh, fuck, cool.

Cradle of civilization.

I'm into it.

Yeah, and

that is where humans, I think, first appeared.

Humanoid.

I mean,

we're way, we're two million years before we got

our species, Homo sapien.

Yeah, yeah, cool.

But this is a humanoid.

She's about four foot tall.

That's how tall women were,

humans were at that time.

Wow.

But she did stand upright.

She stood upright.

Yes.

Absolutely.

And didn't get credit for it.

Fair.

Lucy, my ally.

And then she said, and they named her Lucy.

I can't remember why.

But I mean, you know, that, like, if you did that, you would be celebrated and maybe you would get that rush that you get on stage.

But it would happen just once in your life.

Yeah.

Once in your life, I get it every night.

If ever.

I get it every night.

Fuck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You get it.

Fuck.

Found Lucy every night.

Well, you don't play every night.

Well,

two shows on, one day off.

Because you're on tour.

Yeah.

But when you're not on tour.

It's fucking horrible.

Life is horrible?

I hate it.

Come on.

Telling you.

You'll get over that.

No, I agree.

But I love it at the minute.

I've just loved being on the road.

I love being on my bus.

I don't leave my bus.

My tour bus, yeah.

Even if I've got a right nice hotel.

You will definitely get over that.

Yeah, probably.

I got a five-star hotel.

I go in the hotel, wash my winky, and then fucking head back to the the bus you sleep on the bus love it by choice by choice wow love it that is interesting I think the thing about hotels that freaked me out

there's no consistency

do you know what I mean it's like a new room you gotta adjust to a new energy and then some nights you've got some fucking shagging next door or events going

if you're in a five-star hotel you shouldn't be hearing them shagging next door

i'm telling you fucking rich people people fuck too, man.

They do, but you, but the five-star hotels are built so that you don't hear it.

I mean, I've stayed in five-star hotels.

Not the five-star hotels I'm staying in, obviously.

Really?

Well, five-star shaggy.

But I will concede you this.

I have been on the road since the 80s and I just quit.

And one of the reasons I quit, partly is because, like, you know what?

I'm 70.

I don't fucking need to drink.

You're 70.

You look good for 70.

Thank you, pal.

Tell me, look at your fucking forehead.

It's a good thing.

Clean that stomach again.

No.

Just like basic shit.

And they can fuck it up.

Yeah, freak out on a hotel.

And the hotel can fuck it up.

I mean,

it's weird.

So the thing about me, buses, is how I want my room to...

Like, if you're in America, when you tour America, it's kind of weird.

When you tour Europe,

you come to a different culture, different language, different food every day.

So you're kind of down to embrace that a little bit more.

When you're in America, six weeks of the same thing.

You know what I mean?

I mean, obviously you get like Dallas and Seattle and great cities.

But I like my, but when I'm in America, I like my bus.

I like my biker boots.

I like

a midnight truck stop and I like my bus.

Because that makes things like comfortable in America.

And I just can't, I just don't fuck with the hotels when I'm here.

A midnight truck stop, that's where you want to get the food?

No, I don't eat there.

I just have a couple of drinks and just because the vibe is like, because the drives are so long in America.

If you're leaving, like, I don't know, Salt Lake City to

like Austin, you got like a stop in the day and then you keep going.

It's like you drive,

and there's normally like five buses on our tours, because I got a bus, bands got a bus, crew's got a bus,

riggers have got a bus, everyone's got a bus.

You got your own bus.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

The same size as the other bus.

That's a lot of bus for one guy.

A lot of buses, man.

No, but a lot of bus for one guy.

Yeah, I like the vibe that you got.

You get your back room, you got like your toilet.

You can't have a shit in the toilet on the bus.

You're not allowed.

You got a piss.

Even on your own?

It's your bus.

What do you care?

Can't do it.

On your own.

You won't shit in your own bus?

No.

Truck stop.

But what if you have to?

You go to the driver and be like, yo.

I really need the toilet.

And they're like, all right, man, I'll stop at the next services.

You'd rather lay a load in a fucking strange truck stop toilet than in your own bus or in a five-star hotel yep

i think that's

my vibe though man i like it

the thing about the truck because the best thing about it is like people will all swap buses so the best the best part is the crew bus because the crew will just party till 6 a.m then load in then sleep all day before the gig so if you're on a party you go to the crew bus and like you then then then the best thing about it is we'll meet at a truck stop at like 3 a.m.

And then we'll all go back.

We'll go go to bed.

But like you party while you're driving.

So I love of like 3 a.m.

truck stop in America is the best.

You get a fucking Slim Jim, crack a slim gym.

And these are with the groupies you took from the last city?

No, I don't really do groupies.

It's 2025, innit?

Can't be doing that shit anymore.

Oh, right.

Like fucking fans

ever goes out of style.

Shut the fuck up.

Like nobody's ever going to fuck a group me again because it's 2025.

You know what?

Where's AI when you need it?

No comment.

So tell me you've never availed yourself.

What's available myself mean?

Availed yourself means took me not taken advantage in a bad way, but just a female was enamored of you because of your talent, shall we say.

I haven't been that big for that long yet.

I told you, it's on the way up that it's fun.

It's the best time before it gets too, yes, soon it will be the case where there's more sharks in the water.

There are some.

I don't want this.

I don't know what this symbol is.

This one comments it.

Oh, I see.

All right.

I mean, I'm not looking.

This is like I am.

Anyway, I like a late-night truck stop.

I'm not looking to pry into your research.

No, I'm into your

voice.

No, I'm into the vibe, man.

I'm having fun.

Yeah, me too.

I'm going to keep it.

And it's always...

And you shouldn't be ever put off by the fact that to people who are not rock stars, otherwise known as 99.999999999% of the population.

Yeah.

The rock star, there's a reason why it's a word in the language now, rock star, meaning anybody, doesn't have to be a literal rock star, it's just fascinating to people because it's sort of like uber normal human behavior.

You're allowed to.

No, do you know what?

I think the world has gone a bit mad.

I think with it all, I think as long as you're fucking nice and respectful and vibing,

then what's the fucking problem?

That's what I think.

I think with it all, with rock music, with sex, with everything, as long as everything's fucking consensual and a vibe and real and nice, what's the issue?

That's my vibe.

That's my take on it.

All love, baby all fucking love geez I'll embroider that on a pillow telling you embroider that shit on a pillow oh shit

who gave you that speech you're me your publicist no I did I fucking did I believe in the love I love the love really yeah I do now who doesn't like who doesn't love love yeah I agree because like religion

you know look I'm I'm basically where you what you're saying is I don't disagree.

We don't know.

I think where I come across differently than like the person who says anything about the next world is my attitude about things we just can't know is, well, then I'm just not going to make up any story about them.

I'm not going to believe or not or not believe anything because I'll never know.

So I'm just going to say, that's in this other compartment.

Mark, I can never know.

So I'm just not going to think about it at all.

Like, for whatever reason, we're here.

Yeah.

This dude who I never met, who I'm having such a good time with, and I love this guy

and me, and

we were born in different continents.

Yeah.

And somehow, well, maybe this is just

a fucking dream

that somebody else is doing.

Right, exactly.

That somebody else is having, happening.

Or whatever it is.

I'm just going to live in the reality I've come to know.

You know, it's so weird.

I always think that.

I always literally think about like, what sim.

I mean, especially at the minute, I'm like, what simulation is this?

It could be.

It's all the time.

When you're on stage, like...

Right.

What the fuck?

Like, honestly, I'm still...

But you also must have a feeling like, why me?

Why of all the people in the world did Jesus?

point his finger down and say, give that guy.

Sing, motherfucker.

Give that guy the Torbus life.

Very weird, yeah.

It's very good.

Why you?

I think that's what does keep me up did you do something right in the last movie maybe i was a good fucking beaver or some shit

and you got bumped up to rock star beaver to rock star i feel like you go beaver to uh shoe salesman

you know i don't think i don't think you go

you don't go directly to rock the rock star from beaver you gotta like just be a regular human and like deal with that be a shoe salesman and not be bitter and then we'll see about being a rockstar

i think that's how yeah man i bypassed went straight from beaver made a good fucking damn looked after me pups and well i'm sure you've seen a lot of beaver

do they have that term in england beaver is that what they not really now you know what that is in america does that mean fanny beaver means pussy yeah fanny Fanny?

We call it Fanny.

I never heard of that.

Never heard Fanny?

Fanny?

Fanny.

F-A-N-N-Y?

F-A-N-N-Y.

that's what we call an ass that's an old term her fanny oh really oh no we we that means that means a woman's yeah genitals specifically or sex in general no gen genitals oh you fanny the the lingham yeah you don't the yoni whatever it's a bit more like the thing about a british accent it's a bit more

woohoo and like because i couldn't say the p-u-s-s-y it's a bit weird like I just like fanny's like a bit more like

but you guys use cunt like we I mean mean, yeah, but we don't use cunt in that word.

I'll call it about, all right, you cunt.

Right, it's it's a much more benign word.

Yeah, it's more, it's more fun.

It's more fun.

Yeah, it's not like serious.

The C-U-N-T word's not serious.

No, it's not.

Especially in the south.

Right.

The thing about it is in the north

of England, it's a little bit more

disrespectful, like America.

If you say this, if you say cunt in America, I was like, oh.

In the south of england every all right you can't say is it going when they speak like this and all that in the north i said c-u-n-c to my mother she washed my mouth out with soap no north is what like liverpool yeah like manchester doncaster liverpool newcastle so manchester is north manchester's north is anything north of london yeah

so americans are like oh I've been to the North London.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

Don't say that in the UK.

Right, there's London.

If that's the UK, right, that's Scotland, which is oh, that's a different country.

Well, I mean, it's part of the country.

Debatable, yes, 100%.

Do you have Gaelic roots?

No, I don't.

I'm actually a Portuguese Jew.

Oh.

Romanian gypsy.

Wow.

English.

Roma.

Romanian gypsy.

Yeah.

Gypsy.

Roma.

Yeah.

Roma.

Holy fuck.

Michavi.

Yeah.

My mum's father.

Well, my mum never knew a father.

Cowboy and pirate.

Cowboy pirate.

Trump by gypsy.

Yeah.

Gypsied what?

Gypsies, like even

on my mother's side, yeah.

Wow.

My mum's father was a gypsy.

Okay.

Well, that begins to explain your charisma and stuff.

I think that's why I never want to be in one place.

I freak, like, I freak out if I'm in one place for too long.

Because you're a gypsy.

I think so.

I really do think that.

Like, my mum always says that.

She's like, you've got that.

Because my mum never knew a dad.

My mum's dad knocked my grandma up then.

Pissed her.

And how do you know when you're really a a g hey my wallet what what ah

it's like yeah it's here here you go got you got you when you walked in

um but yeah and you knew this when you were a kid yeah well i've always thought my grandfather was rod stewart

and was he no oh

because my mum never had a dad so my grandmother always lied to me so you just figured rod stewart had fucked so many women yeah my grandmother's not a bad assumption in all fairness right i'm from the north my mum never had a dad but i don't think me my mother or my grandmother wanted to upset me so she always said to me rod stewart was me oh that's funny grandfather so i was always like fucking hell man i have this rock star granddad from like being like three to

eleven

and when i found out i was in a supermarket

Right and I picked up a Rod Stewart CD.

I was with my mother's mum my grandmother.

I was like

like nine or fucking 11 or some i was like picked up the cd and was like no proper quivering lip like when's granddad gonna reach out to me when's granddad coming home and everyone at the checkout started hysterically laughing because obviously they caught my grandmother in a blatant lie and that's the day i found out ros shoe wasn't my grandfather

i mean but your grandfather was

my grandfather was a gypsy uh no a rock star wasn't he wasn't your grandfather no on my dad's on my dad's side side, T-Rex.

So

my dad's side.

My grandfather's a keys player.

He audition for T-Rex and didn't get in.

That's too bad because, like, bang-a-gong,

you know, it's a gong.

Get it on.

Band-a-bang-a-gong.

Bang-a-gong, get it on.

Band-a bounce beauty, don't be it, but epic, man.

That was the shit.

That was the shit I got brought up on.

So

on my father's side, my grand, so there was like

my dad's dad and my dad's dad's brother philip was a doctor and my dad's dad was a musician so my granddad was almost like the black sheep in the family what's that

is that white you're putting in there

why do people freak out when i use liquid heroin like it's not a party okay a little bit of h man it's a you know what's ging it's it's

ging boy that stops you on your tracks huh yeah so does you know it's actually very healthy.

It's a way to have a way to have

to have

soda without any chemicals.

Sure, if I want to put a bit of that in my vodka,

all right, ginging.

You should.

It's very tasty.

Jing, jing.

There are different.

Come into it, man.

Here, don't do that.

Like, here, take.

Oh, shit.

Sorry, you got me a stirrup.

There you go.

You could take the boy out and off.

What do you think?

We're on a tour business, or this is civilization.

I'll give you that back, sir.

Thank you.

What was it talking about?

Oh, yeah,

my granddad was a musician.

So

my grandfather

would basically obsess over old records of me.

He'd be like, oh, this is the good shit.

He'd like play me in the studio and everything.

You should see my record collection.

Oh, really?

Because I mean, I was 12 in 1968.

Fucking hell, that's great.

Yeah, it's good.

I mean, it does make drinks.

What's in it?

Stevie and shit.

It's Stevie.

Yes.

I can tell it's Stevie.

It's actually made by

a chemist who, you know, knows his shit.

Is a chemist?

Is he a mate?

A mate?

No,

I understand what the word means.

I wouldn't.

I'm not going to be friends with me in the old time.

We're mates already.

But I wouldn't say he's a mate, but I've met him and

not everybody.

I like people who know more than me about something.

Yeah, all right, cool.

I like that, too.

I mean, it's great to pick people's brains.

My favorite three words are, I don't know, because when I say that, I learn something.

You know what?

My vibe is

so afraid to say I don't know Johnny if you're in an interview and you ask me a question that I'll be like oh yeah try to skirt on the subject I love saying I don't fucking know what you're talking about you know what because it shows you're confident it shows you people you know who's who never says I don't know unconfident people who want you to think they know everything already I hate that man like what's the point of life Because they they you know, they just can't give it up.

Whereas like if you're confident that I already know I'm a smart person and people think I'm a smart person, I don't have to then pretend I know everything.

I always say, I ain't got a scooby-doo.

Which means I ain't got a clue.

You know, like we do that in English.

In English, we fucking rhyme shit.

Like my favorite.

Yeah, we say, like, let's have a butcher's.

What's that mean?

You know what that means?

Let's have a butcher's hook.

Let's have a look.

Butcher's.

Let's have a butcher's hook.

Let's have a look.

A butcher's hook.

I don't know.

Or like the apple and pears.

I don't know what the word is.

Stairs.

Butcher.

You mean like a meat?

Yeah, like, yeah, like, but let's have a look.

We say, let's have a butcher's.

Oh, wow.

It's weird.

Or I'm going to go up the apples and pears.

I've heard that one.

Yes.

Stairs.

Right.

It's weird, man.

I don't know why we fucking do that, but we do.

Only a cunt says that.

But no, it's true.

The cunt is not a bad word.

I like the word.

They use it.

Can I tell you use it across sex?

It doesn't refer just to a woman.

That's the difference.

No, I agree.

It returns to a person.

It's just a person.

Anybody can do that.

The best use of that word is the Australians.

LA, you can't.

Vagina, Australia, you can't.

The Australians use it the best.

Every fucking, honestly, like,

every walk of life uses it.

Like, a grandmother will be like, LA, you can't, I bless this meal.

You're so right when you say it's just not serious.

Whereas here, it's serious.

Yeah.

Especially if you say, boy, I'd like to fuck your cunt.

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That's too serious.

Yeah, that's true, you know.

My vibe is like, because the American, the Americans have started using it.

I mean, like, oh, on TikTok, you're serving cunt,

which I don't get, but that it's made it more acceptable in America, which is like you're giving me attitude.

Isn't it great the way America and England, of course, we've had our differences.

We had to break away from England and fight a war

a long, long time ago.

I'm kidding, Central Zone.

Well, exactly.

But the way culturally, certainly in my lifetime, there's been this back and forth.

I mean, rock and roll and that.

That started here.

And then you guys took it and brought it to, I mean, the Beatles and the Stones.

An oasis.

The who.

Stones and the Who, yeah.

You know, whenever it clapped, you know, like all that.

I mean, you, and then we would take that.

We would take it back.

You know, and I mean, there's just a wonderful sort of sympathetic between the two cultures which have enough

that is not in common.

So that they kind of complement each other.

You know, they bring things to each other.

I love playing America.

I'll bet you do.

Honestly, I love it.

I just, I think it, everyone, like, for example, say, like, I'm in like Cleveland or fucking Milwaukee.

I'm at radio.

They laugh at me.

If I come into a radio station, I'm like, all right, hello, fucking with me accent.

Everyone laughs at me.

Why?

I don't know.

We never heard a British accent?

No, I think, honestly, I mean, if you're in fucking Idaho, I was like, oh my God, you're British.

Especially musicians.

We've heard a thousand fucking musicians who have your accent.

Not in the

beginning.

Not in the flesh occasionally, you know what I mean?

It's funny.

Every time I'm going to like Idaho radio station, I'm like, hello.

I'm like,

I mean,

in my formative years, my first years of

listening to music, it was mostly either Motown, which was very American.

Sick.

Obviously, we know that.

But it wasn't, it was British.

Yeah, man.

It was the Beatles and the Stones and the Who and the Hollywood.

I wish I would have been around for a while.

And the Moody Blues and t-rex and and david bowie and like that and clapped i mean of cream it was just it was mostly first of all for some reason like the the

male band that's an extinct species weird right

in my that first era when i was listening to music that was the main the doors and the yeah everybody yeah it was i just got into the doors you know i just got into jim morrison just i thought he was a bit of a cunt for a bit until this year when I started like listening to him properly I was like why'd you think he was a cunt I don't know I think because I think everyone overhyped him do you know when everyone's like oh well anytime you die they do yeah everyone's like yeah dying is the best career move but then I do really want to blow up die you're in it I'm telling you I just made it through 27.

I thought about that

move the needle but the problem is I want to know 28 is the new 27 you won't think I'm gonna be fucking 75 hopefully like skin like leather I'm telling you if you live it's a terrible move.

Yeah, really.

It's a pretty terrible move.

All right, fuck it.

I mean, come on, man.

Corn, them bollocks.

No, but it is true.

I mean,

he's blown up beyond proportion because he died.

That always happens.

I mean, he was phenomenal.

That's what I've learned this year.

But he also was.

He was kids, but they were also great.

The stuff they did put out.

was mostly good.

Not everything, not every, anything anybody puts out is good.

But a lot of their shit, first of all, they had like the backing band was jazz.

You know the backing band was not a typical rock

so you so you had a much more sophisticated sound I agree and I think the thing about it is is that I think when you think about rock stars or rock music like it's such a strange thing because it's such a a genre of

almost now a genre of rules, you know what I mean?

It's like almost like a sacred thing at a museum where you take the fucking rope back and be like, this is rock music, but if it's anything different, you can't be in this exhibition, you know what I mean?

That's how you you think of it?

Sometimes I think, I think rock music is a beautiful genre because it's so it's it's sacred at sometimes it was a thing of the past, but it's beautiful right now to be a part of a new movement within it.

The thing about it never went away.

No, it never went away.

That's why I love it.

I mean

you're right.

It was superseded by rap from Taylor Swift.

In terms of the mainstream, like it was never like I'm obsessed with rock music.

So what I grew up in a guitar shop.

I'm like, what the fuck?

I was obsessed with rock stars since I was three years old.

But

the thing about the Doors is, it's such a prime example.

Rock music is defined by its attitude and its front man.

Because it's rooted in jazz music and the fucking weird synthesizers.

And it's not...

It's not heavy guitars.

It's not the kinks.

In the same era.

It's not kinks.

It's not let's play the who.

Let's fuck.

It's not fuck you.

No, No, it isn't.

It's a lot more poetic, intellectual, um,

yes, uh, it's a

turned-up nose kind of, uh, but it's in the same way, it's still fuck you.

And he also dropped his pants, fancy.

He did, man.

He fucking did.

And then masturbated on the front row.

Crazy bastard.

You're so right about that.

I mean,

if you listen to like the end, that 11-minute song, which is an apocalypse.

That drover can't sleep.

It's like...

I put that on the bus and I've got me fucking vibes on.

My vibe is I always put drapes of the spider there.

Yeah, it's okay.

No, I love it.

That's um

after my dog died and I go back into the closet to put the lanterns there and there were these two spiders down and I usually just see one and they were like two inches apart and it looked to me like off the ground because they run their web thing.

Yeah.

And it just looked like they were a boyfriend and girlfriend.

Oh, that's cool.

And I thought, normally I would kill kill you guys.

But you're having a good time.

Not tonight.

No more animals are going to die tonight.

Even though I don't really want to sleep in this bedroom with spiders crawling around.

I'm going to let you vibe out.

I love it.

I love the spiders, man.

Do you know what?

Honestly, I think they're so fucking...

If that was a week ago, I'm going to kill the spiders.

Yeah, no, no.

Where is this?

He's here.

Look, he's on.

Don't kill the spider on the stairs.

He's here.

Look, he's here.

He's chilling.

Oh, he's that?

He's on the lamp.

Oh, that one.

Look, he's riding.

Yeah.

He's chilling.

We're not going to kill him.

Hey, bud.

Isn't this cool?

Yes,

so sick.

Have you noticed that this guy looks just like Kanye?

Yeah, I did think that earlier.

Isn't that weird?

Is that Kanye West?

No.

Who is it?

I don't know.

This is like from before Kanye was nearly Elvis.

I'm like, that looks like Elvis, and it looks like Kanye West.

And it does a little.

Honestly, when I walked in, I was a bit like, why the fuck is this guy?

You're a bit like Elvis.

Oh, do you like...

Oh, really?

And I'm a hugest Elvis.

I love Elvis.

You do?

Elvis is a killer.

Oh.

Do you really know all this stuff?

Not really.

Okay.

I should play you his stuff because, like, I'm not a fan of the early Elvis when he first came.

Yeah, but, you know, I mean, Heartbreak Hotel, the first one, that's pretty good.

I mean, yeah.

You could sing that one.

Yeah, man, that'd be sick.

Since I'm a baby, but left me.

Guard, man.

I love it.

Found every place to dwell.

Found

the end, the lonely street.

Guard, man.

Heartbreak Hotel.

I love that.

Did you like the film?

Do you like the film or not?

No, he made terrible movies.

I mean, he made a few at the beginning when they were using him as an actor, and he could have been a great actor, but that fucking criminal who was his manager

put, yeah, the colonel, put him in all these travelogue movies because they made money.

Yeah, we did.

But when he got, so I'm not a fan of that.

I mean, he started in 56.

He had two amazing years of like

hundreds, but like dozen hits,

but none of them that I'm interested in then he went in the army then he did the movies with all those movie songs forgettable when he came out of the movie contract in 1968 and he did the comeback special from then until

from men until he died that period people don't know this he had he was given a great batch of songs like like suspicious minds

we can go on together

with suspicious minds.

I mean,

what a song.

We can build up.

On suspicious minds.

It's great, man.

I love that shit.

You should do that one.

That's a good idea.

From like 68 to then when he died in 77, that decade, he had a great band.

Nobody ever says this.

He had a great band and he had a great batch of songs.

Not all of them, but a lot of them.

And some of them people don't know, but a lot of them are terrific and they're mature.

They're not like that early.

What?

What do you say?

What the fuck are you saying?

What?

What the fuck do you say?

Yeah, I mean, right.

You know, I mean, he was a bit of a parody of himself with a karate.

Look out, man.

Have you seen that Jack White thing?

Look out, man.

I love that.

Right there.

Have you seen that?

What's that spin-off of

walk hard?

Hysteric.

Walk hard.

Yeah, that pitwork.

I want 10,000 Digi Reduce.

I love that film.

I want 16 ghosts and 10,000 Digi Reduce.

And the little cameo that the guy does as Elvis is hysterical.

Oh, it's so good.

Yeah, it's Jack White.

The white stripes.

Is that who did that?

Plays Elvis.

You're kidding.

Promise me.

That's who did that.

Look out, man.

Look out, man.

That's Jack White.

That's Jack White.

Well, thanks.

Look out, man.

I love that fucking film.

That's why I say I watch it on the bus all the time with the guys.

I fucking love that film.

I do too.

That's Jet Appetown.

Yeah, he's so good.

I mean, that L'Oreal Man.

The giraffe that he has in the backyard.

You know, Lina Olympic.

I'm going to miss some of the kids.

I'm going to miss some of their births.

John C.

Riley and that is fucking great, man.

And then when they, the Beatles part, when the Beatles come up.

Hello, we're the Beatles.

We're taking some time in India.

Jack Black.

All right.

Oh, hello.

More than you could possibly imagine.

I love that man.

The Dylan section.

Where he's singing the song for the midgets.

Yeah, so good.

That is

fucking imagine.

imagine i fucking love it man what a film yeah that is genius comedy yeah so fucking good man he's so good all right well i'm glad we agree on that i'm glad we agree on that too so you can really drink yeah i thought i was i'm english aren't i so fucking yeah

that's the thing about england is that they go to pubs

where the um

generations

mix.

Yeah, no, you just what we don't do in America.

Like you go to the public.

You know, I love that that because I remember every Christmas,

I really feel lucky because I would

almost feel insecure as fuck with my dads and my grandfather's mates because they would quiz me a lot on like music and history and blah, blah, blah.

So I'd like learn a lot of stuff which helped me later on in life when I was kind of, I don't know, like...

talking to older rock stars or whatever.

They'd be like, do you know these records?

And I'd be like, yeah, because I would feel like such shit at 12 for not knowing, like, fucking Screaming Jay Hawkins or some shit.

Really?

So, I'd go and find that myself.

I think, like, when I was like 12 or 13, I'd be taken to a pub

and they'd give me like a shandy, which is like a taken by who?

Well, my dad.

Would take you to a pub at 12?

Yeah.

Here they'd call child services.

Well, nah, the fucking, well, it's weird, isn't it?

Because I loved it because I was like, I'd be like,

sure, I would have loved it.

We like break, we'd break.

In the UK, you'd break, like, you open a bag of crisps and then you share it in the table.

You don't eat a bag of chips by your own

crisps,

chips.

Chips.

So you crack a bag of crisps

and then you put it on the table.

So you all share a bag of crisps.

Like, you don't have one individually.

So then I'd...

We do that here, too.

Yeah, all right.

Sorry if I could just shoot.

We're not that big of an asshole.

We all have to have our own bag of stuff.

in it and oh so then with the english yeah and i'd be superior and i'd have a shared chips yeah fair fair for sorry and i'd have a i'd half a beer and half lemonade and i'd have a shandy at 12.

and i'd like i don't think it's the worst thing in the world to introduce um a 12 year old to the concept of no having a pint yeah that i think that's where i mean a paint is a little much

but but like kids have to understand that there are in this world

two different realities.

There's the one you're born with, and if you're a person who's completely sober your whole life, like our president, never had a drink, okay.

But then most people discover at some point through whatever drug, whether it's liquor or whether it's pot, something that, oh, there's a way where my mind is like kind of like twisted over to here with some advantages and maybe some terrible disadvantages, but it's like there are two-

You know what was cool about my dad my dad always said right drink as much as you want but but you're fucking cleaning it up

well i i wouldn't put this on page one of the parents guide no how to but you know what i genuinely think that's why i've never abused any substance because i always felt empowered to go there if i wanted it was never an act of rebellion do you know what i mean i was like my dad was like if you want to have fucking beer i mean i was like at 13 14.

My dad was like, if you want a beer, I have a beer.

But if I had five beers and at 14, I'm like, oh, I feel ill.

He's like, yeah, it's what it does to you.

But why do you think so many rock stars fall victim to drug abuse?

You'd think drugs being the thing that people take to get away from reality, it'd be the last thing someone whose reality is so great to begin with would want to do.

To me, it's a sense of control of your own destiny.

Because even though it makes you feel out of control, you're like, this is the one thing in the world that I can do

that

no one can kind of monitor, I would say.

I'd be like, I can go to this place

and I'm going to be on my own trip.

And no one can change my trip.

Because it's all internal.

You know why the doors are called the doors?

No.

Because there's a book by an Englishman, Aldous Huxley, called The Doors of Perception.

Wow.

And it's about drugs.

And it's saying drugs open the doors of perception.

And that's why they took that name.

Yeah, I love it.

One of my favorite Jim Morrison things was like

some mad reporter was trying to slate him, was like...

oh well your recent poetry's not been well reviewed and blah blah blah blah all this shit and his response was like oh i just don't think i just don't think they get it i guess i was like wow but why what i loved i know i loved that because he was very much like

art is such a strange you know in that you know when like someone reviews an album

i find that such a crazy concept how the fuck can you review an album i i was just saying this to we did billy joel you should listen to it you'll love it it's on and i said the exact same thing how the fuck can someone review an album you can't review music it's like it hits you or it doesn't.

So they review the lyrics, which is a dumb thing because it's music.

It's not lyrics.

It's true to someone.

The thing about it is, right?

Like, you take a young artist who comes out of the gate and it's like really excited and people love it and blah, blah, blah and then fucking pitch Folk or Rolling Stone give it like a two out of five.

It's like, how the fuck do you do that?

Like someone has just been like sat in their room and been like, this is what I feel about the world.

This is what I'm saying.

Well, because Rolling Stone wants to tell you what music is important.

and I could give a fuck what music is important music isn't important that's why I love it it's not important yeah it's pleasurable yeah and it's and it's it's it's someone's spirit or someone's opinion of the world that's what music is music or art in any regard intellectualized takes the fun out of it like my vibe is like when you see some cunt intellectualizing a Picasso or some shit I bet he woke up, took a shit, and painted it, and was just like,

that looks great.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't think it was that deep, being like, what was he going through?

You know what I mean?

You're right.

And can I tell you, when you make songs,

you don't really think about it.

You just kind of, that's the beauty of writing music, right?

It's like, yes.

You tap into a thing that is...

inexplainable that you shut your eyes,

you open your mouth, and some crazy shit comes out that your subconscious wanted to say.

Correct.

Without thinking about it.

And that's what we are like what us fans, you know, the common people,

we're connecting to certain things.

That is one of them.

Because

something, when you sense something is

beyond the intellectual.

Because most of us spend too much time in our own hands.

Yeah, because this fucking thing floating above our heads right now, the subconscious, is how we connect.

Right.

The other thing we connect to, of course, is just raw sexuality.

Complexity.

That's always going to be attractive.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, I agree.

And then what we're connecting to, especially women, is that music enunciates what men, who are stilted usually emotionally, just can't say out loud.

So

they hear the singer saying, you are my everything.

You know, it's usually bullshit because they're with groupies on the tour bus.

But they're singing it's

they're singing it it doesn't matter if it's bullshit you are my you are once twice three times a lady yeah i'm into it and tonight i'm with three ladies

but it does but it doesn't matter

it it's they want it doesn't matter no they want to hear it i who can blame them i want to hear it no and and that's the vibe can i have a piss yeah i am busting for a fucking piss.

Now, a piss, you English, I happen to know when you're saying

I'm pissed, it means you're drunk.

No, I'm not pissed.

I need a broken piece.

Can I have a piss?

Go ahead, go ahead.

Where's the toilet?

It's right over there.

All right, what about

in this man cave?

And luckily, your pants are always half off.

I'm telling you, they are.

Is it here?

No, right.

Keep going.

No, no, keep.

No, no, no, no, no.

Back the other way.

This way.

There you go.

And then, see, yeah, it's hard to find the door.

There you go.

Oh, great.

There you go.

What a vibe.

Boys' pants are half off.

What a fucking vibe.

What a fucking vibe, Damn.

I told you.

I tell you, that was quite a piss.

I heard it from you.

Could you hear it?

I'm telling you, I was bullying because I was late, so I didn't get to piss in the car.

I said, I bet you this guy hasn't pissed since Japan.

Bro.

I have had a piss since Chicago.

I have just been.

I'm telling you, I was only not in for about been telling you, as a man of 70 who's in fine health and I have no complaints, but while you can piss like that, just note it because it will not last forever.

Oh, really?

You can't pay for it.

Yeah, you'll be fine.

But I mean, that's like the old saying, he pissed like a racehorse.

Yeah, it did.

I mean, when you can hear it through a door

50 feet away, that is quite a piss.

Yes, I've been older instantly.

And that's quite a piss.

Why Why does it take you a second?

No.

I think it's starting to take me dad a second.

Okay.

But if you're in the urinal and you're like standing like side to side like that.

Okay.

Like I go straight away.

Okay.

Well, sit down, first of all.

Just explain me.

I understand.

I just heard you pissed.

Set the fuck down.

It's not going to take you a sec.

Limey.

I love it.

You limey cunt.

I like it.

You fucking limey cans.

We're not going to talk about me pissing.

It's all good.

And it doesn't matter.

No, it doesn't matter.

But I'm just saying, enjoy the things that I'm telling you.

You will not have forever while you have them.

Because after you lose them, you'll be like, oh, wow, I wish I could piss our cabinets.

I wish I had sort of at the time it was happening,

been happy about that.

Because I must say, I've gotten pretty good about that, especially since I've, I mean, I've lived here about 25 years.

It's a lovely place to be a lot of people.

Yeah, this house is lovely.

By the way, I would like to comment on you on that as well.

Thank you.

And I really never forget

every day how lucky I am to live here because I used to live in shitholes.

So like, it's good to live in a shithole.

It's better when you get to live in a nice baller bed.

But if you do, it's like, yeah, I never have a day where I don't think, oh, wow, this is, yeah, jing.

On the jing vibe, man.

Telling you, you got me hooks on this Jing shit.

Can I take some of this on?

I'll leave.

Oh, I'm going to give you a job.

I love it, man.

We're going to get blackout drunk, me and you.

Well, you know, the only time I drink really anymore is

right here.

What killer.

But there are people who I enjoy drinking with more

and less, and you are one of the ones I really enjoy.

Yeah, I've

agreed.

You are meant for club random.

You were born a rock star and you were born a club random guest.

I'm into the club random vibe.

I'll just stay here.

Just look me.

Just fucking time me up.

I'm sure you will.

Telling you.

Just put another chair up.

Me and you will give the guests help.

I'm going to have to get a plumber to see what you did to that toilet.

I'm overflowing by.

I'm overflowing.

You probably.

You probably knocked it off its rafters.

It was clear.

I'm hydrated.

How is the flight from Japan?

That must be a killer.

Do you know what?

Japan is the worst fucking time zone.

Why?

Because it's like when you're like trying to sleep, it's 4 a.m.

London or 6 p.m.

LA.

So it's like right in the middle.

But the flight was alright.

Oh, good.

I had some ramen and some noodles.

Is that what they serve on Japan?

Yeah, it's fucking great.

Really?

I'm telling you.

So they go with the...

I've got a waggon steak and shit.

But I don't really eat on planes.

No, but I mean, on Japan Airlines, you get the ramen noodles.

Is that what you're saying?

I got the ramen noodles.

Sushi?

No, no, sushi you're not on a plane i i i'm not a sushi myself no i i don't like sushi i don't like sushi as well i don't get it

i don't like sushi it's

i think it's weak i don't want to eat something raw i just want to always say to the restaurant you're a restaurant could you cook the yeah i'm fully like i'm like if i got the sushi i want i could do that at home just buy something out of a package and eat it catch a fish and

it's gross and i don't understand why it is so popular no there are people who only want to eat sushi

Tried it.

I can't do it.

I've tried it to be sophisticated.

You know, like, I remember coming to LA.

The label took me to Nobu.

Right.

And I went there and I was like, Didn't say like you.

Yeah, I was like, wow.

Because that's like the.

Sam from Donnie, Doncaster, right?

I'm just saying, for the people who don't know, Nobu is like one of the top, topper, toppest, most restaurants.

Yeah.

I would never, I wouldn't be caught dead there, nor would they invite me.

But like, it's just not my kind of place because it's full of

cunts and sushi.

Yeah, I'm doing it.

Two things I don't like.

I agree with you.

And it's

some wonderful people there.

Robert De Niro owns it, and he's a great guy.

Oh, does he own it?

Yeah, well, he's certainly one of the most.

I love Robert De Niro.

Why do you own nobody?

I love Robert De Niro too, and he's a great guy,

but I don't like sushi.

I don't like sushi.

And he can't help it that because he's Robert De Niro, it attracts, you know, that kind of snobby type of, which is fine in some sense.

I like a good Hollywood party.

I feel like it's like a petting steak.

I'd just rather go to a steakhouse.

Have you ever go to like the Oscar party?

No, I've never been to Steaky.

You'll get it.

I think I'd advise it.

Well, you will.

I'm telling you,

you're coming right up to that moment where they will want you at the Oscar party.

It's fantastic to stand in a room and everywhere you look, there's a star.

It's fun, it's fun, as long as you don't take it seriously.

Yeah, no, i agree but you know

i could talk to harrison ford or i could you know or i could talk to nicole you know at least or you know at least i could come up and say hi we're at the same party i agree because when you're at the same party i've had people come up to me at parties and say can i talk to you i'm like you're at a i'm at a yeah i'm at the same party as you

if that if i come to this party voluntarily you can everybody can talk to somebody else

you're at a private party i agree i love that vibe yes i love that vibe but yeah i don't like sushi.

I fucking hate sushi.

I do too.

I just don't get the concepts of it.

I don't either.

It's not cooked.

I'm trying to be polite, honestly.

I remember the time.

It's full of mercury.

Yeah, they took me to a fucking no when I first came.

And I'm like, wow, we're really going to make it.

And I was like, eating this shit.

I was like, I wish you would have taken me to internet.

But given that scouse accent you have, I would guess you like fish and chips.

I love fish and chips.

Of course you do.

Do you like fish and chip?

No, of course not.

I'm not English well you haven't been to the right fish and chip shop then

I'm never gonna like it when I was telling you if I take you to my fish and chip shop in Doncaster Rothwells I'm telling you I'm gonna be like wow okay I'm gonna tell you why think he promised telling you I'll take you to my fish

go on then okay you like fish there was a

talk show in this country

by a guy named Merv Griffin never heard of him I'm sure you haven't he was sweet man very, you know, he was a,

he might have chased a boy or two around a hotel room.

Not for, you know,

but a lovely man.

I did his show many times.

And he had a sidekick named Arthur Treacher, who was English.

He played the English butler in a lot of old movies.

And they used him as like a second banana on American TV.

And he opened, he was popular enough that he opened a string of fast food places with English food called Arthur Treecher's Fish and Chips.

And when I was in college, I worked there, throwing pieces of fish batter

into a vat of grease, which would bounce back and burn my armchair.

I will never have fish and chips.

All right, fair.

Fuck.

All right, but

I'll bring it to your house.

I'll bring a chip button next time.

The problem is here,

fish and chips.

In America, Indian food and fish and chips is dog shit.

I love Indian food.

I love Indian food.

Love it.

It never really agrees with me, but it's, I don't know what, there's maybe a lot of oil.

Are you in London a lot?

I'm not in London a lot, but I've been there five times.

I'm going to get your number.

When next time you're in, I'm going to, I'm going to blow your mind.

I may not be able to ever make it to London.

Why?

I just don't know if I ever want to leave the country again.

I never sleep.

Speaking of sleep, when I go overseas.

I don't feel like I'm going to sleep.

And if you don't sleep, you just don't feel right.

But I just can't sleep.

I'm trying to, you know,

when something's happening, and like

you just can't, I can't fucking sleep.

I'm not icing in bed, like

it's crazy.

Well,

you have to learn to clear your mind.

I know it's very difficult.

It's easy to say that, innit?

Interesting.

Uh, wow, you rock stars, rock and roll, man.

A real cunt.

Yeah.

Um, we are.

I mean, I mean, uh,

yeah.

Can I have some of your blood?

Yeah, go on then.

No.

I mean, Keith Richards used to do it.

Yeah, I'm telling you.

What's the big deal?

I love swapping.

That's transfusion, man.

I heard about that.

Keith Richards on it.

There was two myths in school.

Keith Richards used to blood transfuse every month.

because of his heroin addiction.

And then Marilyn Manson took out two of his ribs to suck his own dick.

Yeah.

The second one, I've heard them both.

The second one, I know, is bullshit because I know Brian.

Yeah.

I love calling him Brian whenever I see him.

Is his name Brian?

Yes, of course it is.

I didn't know his name was Brian.

And he's Brian.

He's a kid from Ohio with a good Halloween costume and some good songs.

I mean, I like

some of Brian's songs.

That was rough for me because he was so integral to

me as a kid.

And then when I learned that shit, it really fucked me up.

Yeah, the dope show.

Yes.

All that shit.

It really fucked with me because it's so strange when

someone you idolize,

shit comes out about them and you're like, no, Superstar album is great.

The Dope Show.

I mean, he had some great songs.

He had a hot band.

Yeah, mom.

Twiggy, the guitarist.

John 5 as well.

Yeah, that was not...

Just

it was not just a Halloween costume.

That was serious shit.

Yeah.

That really changed me as an individual.

I remember.

I remember watching an MTV show and someone said to him and this is why it was so fucking hard for me when all that shit came out and I was like fuck you motherfucker because it was like

I remember him saying someone asked him was like what would you say to the kids

and and I mean when you're like 14 years old I he was like I wouldn't say anything I'd listen And I remember being 14 years old and be like, wow.

Yeah.

Honestly, it was so sick to see.

Yeah, because I looked exactly like him.

I was like, I was like, in a god, I was in a slayer and fucking whatever.

I was like, You don't look like him, which is good.

I mean, I like Brian, like I said, if he did these things, I can't quite go there.

But Brian was not a great-looking guy, you're different.

I mean, you're a gypsy,

you've got, you've got to look, you've got an Elvis look.

He had a cadaver look.

Yeah.

He looked like Biden, you know,

he was and that was the look it was i mean that was the gig that was the shtick but he he made the most of what he had because he wasn't really you know a great looking guy he was just brian from ohio

i didn't know his name was brian that's so funny i learned from it tonight that's crazy oh yeah well like i always say every rapper sounds like a terribly hard gangster until you find out their real name can i tell you what i want to find out i want to hang out with you after this podcast i like i love this I want to sit in this place.

It's a good vibe.

I'm going out to dinner after this.

Come with me.

I've got to go to fucking rehearsal, but I would love that.

Sure.

No, but my vibe is like, I fucking love this shit.

I'm going to get your number after this.

We're going to do this like every week.

Well, we're going to leave.

You're like, motherfucker, can you leave?

I'm like, no.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm looking to leave.

I love doing that.

I love this.

This is such a good vibe.

A bottle of vodka and jing and shit.

When you got the jing,

no, but it's like, you know, because this is the one time I allow myself to get fucked up.

Like, I'm looking forward to it no matter who's here.

I've got to go to rehearsal after this.

I'm going to be in rehearsal.

All right, man, take it from the fucking top.

Tonight you have a rehearsal?

I've got to do a fucking.

What time is the rehearsal?

Well, I don't know.

I mean, I don't really need to go on rehearsal because I know everything, but I should go because it's like morale vibe.

The thing about rehearsals, it's funny.

You know, when you write the song.

I would blow that off if that was the reason.

You know what?

Every one of these I have, the one we're going to do.

Well, first of all.

I'd rather go to dinner with you, to be honest.

First of all, you know,

bands are not a democracy.

I mean, your band isn't even called Youngblood and the Receivers.

No, no.

It's just Youngblood.

So like,

you sound like you respect them a lot.

You get on their bus sometimes.

Okay.

You can't pay a higher respect than that.

But like,

you're the one who has to like,

you know, conserve or reserve your energy in the way you best see fit.

And

like showing up at

like sort of performatory rehearsals that don't make you better, maybe diminish you.

Yeah, you are right.

The thing about it is when you write the songs, you know the songs.

You do.

Yes.

And the band does.

Yeah, because the thing about it is, when you fucking write it, It's so weird if I've got to learn a cover I've got to rehearse it if I've got to write if I've got to play a song that I wrote you don't got to rehearse it because it came out of you

it's so weird that because

Weirdly if I write a song the day before I know the lyrics the next day

like by heart

I'm the same way with jokes.

Yeah,

I remember jokes that were written for me in the 90s.

Well, it's so sick.

It's just where the it's just what sticks in my mind because that's who I am.

Exactly.

Because when you write something out of your brain,

it's already in your muscles, I think, already in your blood flow.

So, like, I find rehearsals funny because I'm like, why?

I know it.

Inside out and back to front.

Yeah.

Why would I go to fucking Van Nuys right now and play a song I'll play it on TV tomorrow that I played on tour?

You don't?

I don't.

I'm going to go to dinner with you.

No, I'm not saying that for that reason.

I'm just saying.

What are you saying?

I don't know.

We'll talk about it after.

I love it, sorry, but it's not sushi, though.

No, definitely.

Definitely will not be sorry.

No, but it definitely will not be sushi, and it won't be far.

It'll be great.

It'll be awesome.

I eat right, and you will too.

But like, I'm not saying it for that reason.

I'm saying because,

yeah, you don't want to leave it on the practice field,

as we say in America.

You don't want to leave it on the practice field.

I agree.

Like Tom Brady,

you know, he doesn't do the weight when he was still playing in the best one in the game.

You know, he didn't like overdo it.

He would get 12 hours of sleep the night before the game.

Like you don't have to

mentally, you have to overdo it.

Yeah.

But physically, you don't need the rehearsal.

You know.

Do you know the thing, what's strange is...

Being too rehearsed takes the fun out of it.

Yes.

Because you want...

I love love going on stage and be like, what the fuck's about to happen?

That's the fun bit.

If I fucking

the audience senses that.

Exactly.

And that's the vibe.

It's like when it's to rehearse, the audience is like

the amount of shows I see, I'm like,

like the screen and shit, like the screens and the rehearse and the fucking.

My vibe is like, that's why I love Iggy and that's why I love Bowie and that's why I love Jagger.

It's like

that motherfucker is just gonna like.

But what do you think of concerts today?

Like, I have not I hate screens.

They bore me.

They all have screens, right?

I'm like, I.

And everybody's watching through their phone.

Yeah, there's no, there's no

there's nothing fun about like here's here's what I know from what I because I haven't been in a while

but somebody

we wouldn't say who

like said

you you gotta please watch the Taylor Swift it was on I think Disney or Apple or she sold it to somebody she's a brilliant businesswoman.

And it's her tour.

You know, it's the show she just did.

It's a dedication documentary.

Oh, no.

It's the tour she just did.

Yeah, yeah, it would have been.

It's the errors tour.

Yeah.

It's everything.

It's, you know, it goes on forever.

I mean, if you're a fan, it goes to Taylor.

I fucking love Taylor Swift.

It's weird.

I love Taylor Swift.

I just saw her doing the Travis Kelsey podcast, and I just thought

everything I don't know about her, I like like her better.

She seemed genuine, funny, cool to hang out with, which I never thought she wasn't.

I just don't get the music.

And I never will.

No, maybe that's fucking nervous.

It doesn't matter.

I don't know.

That first album and red.

My sisters loved that.

So when I, anytime that comes on, it takes me back to a time and I was in my mum's car with my sisters.

And I actually fucking love it.

Okay.

Yeah.

Do you know what I know?

Can I tell you one thing?

Lads in the pub are like, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

Taylor Swift, I don't fuck with it.

I like fucking Taylor Swift.

Good.

I'm glad.

I'm happy.

Honestly.

I don't dislike Taylor.

I like Taylor Swift.

I'm just saying, I'm making a bigger point.

Because she's so big, you know, she's the one to make it about.

Like, you don't have to like, and not everybody has to like everything.

The silliest thing people do is when they go,

listen to this, you'll love it.

I'm like, maybe I won't.

Yeah, maybe I won't.

And if I don't, don't argue with me.

Or just be like, listen to this.

Let me know what you think.

Argue.

Well, that's a little more open.

I think it's shit.

You don't like it.

You don't like this?

You don't like that song?

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

So why?

When I'm like, yo, what do you think to this?

And I was like, it's shit.

I'm like, what?

Really?

Why?

If I love something and you think it's shit, I think that's fascinating.

Because that makes me go like, this hits me in my fucking balls and my heart.

Why does that, why do you think it shit?

I love that.

There are songs that I can recognize as really good.

The way there are women I could recognize as really pretty who I personally am not attracted to at all.

But I get it.

I get it.

You're pretty.

Not my type.

I get it.

This song is good.

Not my type.

And that's okay.

I love that.

That's the fucking point.

That's why the world's fucked right now.

But anyway, so this is as much as I know about concerts lately is watching the Taylor Swift endless documentary.

And like every song, every kid in there is watching through their phones.

I mean, when they pan to the audience, it's just phones.

It's like they can't perceive this thing that's going on except through this other thing.

I found that disturbing.

My vibe is this.

I think when people...

Is that what your shows look like?

So yes.

So what happened?

Yes.

I think when you walk out, I think it's just a modern thing, innit?

It is.

Because what happens is when they leave the gig, they want to show their mom, dad, friends, whatever, look what I did.

But I always say, I'm like, do what you fucking want because you're at the show.

Experience it how the fuck you want to experience it, right?

My vibe is this at least one show at the gig, one song at the gig, I say, put your phones down and be in the moment.

Because when I watch like Woodstock 99 or Oasis in the 90s, when you're there,

the crowds though, the crowds are fucking vibing because

the hard thing about it is, it's like

when you're trying to get a crowd going and on the phone, it's one step removed because you're like, right, I'm watching you through a screen.

That's yes.

As opposed to, right, motherfuckers, jump.

If I say, if I say, yo, jump to your human self, you're like, oh my God, I should jump.

When you're looking at through a screen, you may as well be on Instagram.

Would you ever consider going out and doing your first number?

Okay, they're all getting it on the screen.

And then saying, hey, you all got it.

No, I do that.

I do that.

For once,

two songs a gig.

I go like, yo, put it down there.

Let's do it.

Good for you.

Two songs.

Do what you, I mean, because I don't want to do like the put your phones in a bag thing because it's like weird.

I'm like, do what you fucking want.

Like you're here.

Do what you want.

I agree with that.

You know what I mean?

If you want to film, if you want to fucking...

Right.

You know what?

You can't.

You want to have a beer?

What?

You can't dictate to people.

No, you can't.

That's fucking weird.

That's shitty.

That's shitty.

But it is.

But I'm like, for once, I'm like, put it down.

If you like it, just fucking be here.

But it is cool that sometimes, you know, like the vibe is like...

It's almost what's cool as a person from stage.

You see the people and then you see the phone.

So what's kind of cool about seeing the phone and the people is it looks like there's there's so much shit like it's like overstimulation for me I'm like whoa what the fuck you ought to write a song about that I know about how the kids would be so much happier they kind of know it themselves yeah they do they do they they they know it and yet they can't give it up they know that it's fucking them up they're not unaware of it and yet I've talked to them like I know

You kids spend too much.

I know.

I gotta do, like, sometimes, like,

for example because I'm not sleeping in a minute I've got I've got to turn me phone off like if I'm on Instagram I'm like

and I'm like awake I to I delete my app at night and then I put it in the fucking

bathroom and then I go go to bed yeah if I'm if I'm in bed and the phone's next to me I'll be like picking it up.

If I can't sleep, I'm like, what time is it?

I would rather just not fucking know i'm

wait for the sun to come up there's a lot of kids who uh you know make fun of people like me because they can do so many things on the phone that i can't do there's one thing i can do on the phone they can't do turn it off yeah i literally

have seen them people in audiences i've said you know they told you you can't and then they're still taking pictures at a show and i'll say just turn your phone off and they're like they don't know how they've never done it that's the one function on the phone that they can't figure out that's saying something it's so weird phones are like because I'm a fucking addicted to it but recently more than ever I'm trying to just like shut it off put it in my fucking drawer and be like let me go fucking talk to a tree or some shit well you don't have to

you don't need a tree

you're surrounded by people I don't fucking know but like I want to like go touch the bark or some like the next bus you don't need a tree there's a whole bus people a bus of i love to but i'm mental me because people think i'm crazy because i just talk to random fuckers like how you doing

and i was like what the fuck like if i'm in new york and i ride the subway i'm like yeah hello like hey what the fuck you talking to me for i'm like oh

sorry do you ever uh

like tell the driver pull over because i'm lonely on my bus and i want to go on the other bus oh all the time oh really

like right on the side of the bus the best thing about it is because i'm obviously like bus one i'm like

i'm like air force one like yeah of course the leader i'm like right we're partying now pull over so air force one pulls over but you never have them on your bus no they come on my bus sometimes oh really yeah but then you got to get rid of them Yeah,

but I don't give a fuck.

I'm like, right, fuck off now.

It's tough when you're going 70.

I'm like, right, fuck off now.

I'm getting off the next one.

What do they have to take a shit?

Well, yeah, they can't shit.

No one can shit in the toilet, bro.

You get fined $250.

Really?

Every shit.

So if you really want to shit, you can shit, but it's $250.

Is it worth it?

It's not going to affect me at any point in my life because I would never get on a thing like that.

But I did travel on a tour bus once when I was opening for Frankie Valley in the Four Seasons.

Did you open Frankie Valley?

I opened for him, yes, as a comedian.

And for one night, I was on a tour bus.

Yeah, I slept on a hammock, like those hammocks that you have.

I did not sleep, of course.

It was just terrible.

And I can't imagine living there.

And the poor crew, who was on the same bus, you know, I guess they slept on that bus.

If they didn't, they were fucked because as soon as we got to the next gig, they went up.

They didn't go to a hotel like I did.

They got out there and started building the stage.

I love a fucking tour bus.

Yeah.

That's a hard way to make a living.

Honestly, I love a tour bus.

Not for you, but I mean, like, with a crew.

The thing for me is.

I guess they love it, though.

I just, I think they do.

They're just like, the best thing about a crew is

it's the same shit.

Like, we're like pirates.

We're gypsies.

I fucking love it.

And they love it.

Because

you choose it.

If you're a crew, you choose it.

I really mean that.

I genuinely, I don't, I think when you're in a rock band and you're in a crew, they work

so many hours.

They work 13 hours, like 13, 14, 15 hours a day, right?

On a tour bus, not seeing your family, been on the road.

It's a job.

I mean,

you may be right.

But my crew, they love it.

They fucking love it.

They get off and they're pissed all the time and they love it.

Well, they tell you they love it.

I don't know.

I know.

I think you're right.

They genuinely fucking do it.

I think they do.

Because it's not real.

It's no reality.

It's a magical existence.

Yes.

I mean, it's sort of a similar job to working on an oil rig.

Yeah, oh, you join the circus.

What?

You join a circus.

Run away.

He jumped on a train.

I mean, I don't know how many circuses are still like.

No, but it's a modern-day circus.

You've run away.

There's no reality.

You've fucking.

There's no time zone.

There's no time limit.

You turn up.

There was always this

I don't know rumor about roadies

that they

Got a lot of sex because they would vet the groupies before like you'd have to like that's that Peter Grant led Zeppelin

trick

Is that true?

Not nowadays, no.

No.

Oh, you think, but back in the day?

100% Peter Grant.

Blow Joseph's Blackstage t-shirt.

So you'd have to like blow the roadie to get to the rocks?

I don't fucking know, to be honest.

I've seen it in the movies.

Yeah.

Not now, though.

I don't know.

I mean,

Led Zeppelin did some crazy shit.

I mean, again, I don't know if these...

Jimmy Page lived off a fucking U.S.

tour on banana daiquiris.

He did what?

Apparently he lived.

The only thing he drank or ate was banana daiquiris on the U.S.

tour.

Well, banana is loaded with potassium.

So

he probably was in the corner.

I might do that.

That's why it looks so good.

No,

I mean, they apparently had sex with a groupie with a fish.

I mean, you know, like they were just.

I heard that in Seattle.

I've stayed in the hotel room.

That they did that?

Apparently, yeah.

That's what they're talking.

That's what they're saying.

I mean, even if it's not true.

Sick.

It's just.

It's great for fun.

I'm sleeping in this room like, whoa.

I mean, that's one of my favorites.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

Led Zeppelin.

Are you a Led Zeppelin fan?

I love Zeppelin, man.

Yeah.

Top five drummers,

Bonham, Bill Ward, Ringo, Keith Moon, Dave Groh.

Who's the second one?

Bill Ward?

Bill Ward.

Sabbath.

Sabbath.

Crazy.

Yeah.

I saw that tribute you did.

That was very moving.

Oh, that was mental.

I mean, that was...

A great moment.

I love him.

It's weird, man.

It's been so weird.

The past couple of weeks.

I think that's also why I can't sleep as well.

The past couple of weeks have been so weird.

Because you were that connected to Ozzy Osborne.

I loved Ozzy Osborne my whole life.

Be from two years old.

Before I even knew who he was, he was a caric caricature.

And the TV show, you watch that?

I watch that every night.

I have done before I knew him.

You know when you put a TV show on that you can just like

sleep to or disconnect to

been such a weird, weird couple of weeks because

you know someone your whole life, or you think you do, and then you get to know them.

Oh, so you got to know him?

I got to know him towards the end.

And we were just getting to know each other.

But what did you think of him?

I mean, was he because when you meet your idols, they can sometimes disappoint you, or sometimes they can make you.

I loved him

like my friend.

So he was cool.

He was just

who he is.

Yeah, everything I ever wanted to be.

He was crazy

and individual and wild and mad and unpredictable, like I have been my whole life.

And he was accepted by the whole world and loved by the whole world for his

sense of self and fucking

fucking mentality.

And that performance was so wild

because

it was the first time in my life when you would look at a stadium of 30,000 people, you performed to them.

I could actually like zone into one person and be like, Yo, I'm going to sing this for you because of everything you did.

I've never felt like that for anybody else,

and it was wild how the world received it.

It was fucking mental.

How well, he died so soon after, like like how soon after very two weeks two weeks

so it was kind of nice that he got the tribute before he died because usually people get the tribute after they die

and then they're not there for it I'm telling you yeah it I I

was in

the Bahamas I was I was writing I was in a studio in the Bahamas

and my phone had 50 missed calls on it Because I was in the middle of a fucking island.

So I was like, your phone just sh fucks in it.

I was like, what?

I genuinely thought my mum would, mum had died or fucking someone had.

And I fucking found out the news.

And I was like,

after that, and after I met him

at the concert, I've met him before, but we had such a moment at the gig in Birmingham.

We had such a beautiful

20 minutes, like, just...

like this, just like kicking it, talking, like.

And then he was like, I'm nervous.

what like you want you're when you're like with your hero and you're like I'm nervous

it's obviously like he's he's kind of obviously it was the farewell concert to Sabbath and his last performance on stage

and when you see someone you that he's that he's that big to me he's like fucking massive I can't even stretch my arms like he's Aussie he's like I'm look to him And when you see him as a human, you kind of like hold his hand and you're with him.

And he just like, we were talking shit, and he was just like, go break America next.

And he said, that is like, go get America next.

And you have this.

Like, you felt his spirit passing.

Yeah, you have this fucking moment and this spirit and this

person you've known your whole life.

And then you know them as a human being who lives, breathes, spits, shits, fucks, drinks, whatever.

And then he leaves.

It is interesting that he died so soon after announcing a last concert it's almost like he knew he was gonna die in two

can i tell you one thing it's

was the craziest shit because i when i saw him

in my head i was like fantasizing like oh my god like we're getting to know each other i can't wait to go have sunday dinner with you i can't wait to go have like I can't wait to like walk around the garden with you or like have a cup of tea with you.

We're getting to know each other.

I can't wait to like watch a film with you.

Or

I genuinely didn't think he would go so soon.

And the craziest thing about it was

knowing his family, they didn't either.

And Jack and Kelly

are just the most fucking crazy, beautiful people ever.

They didn't either.

well it's wild it's wild

I've learned this not just from my parents but from my dogs

death happens slowly and then quickly yeah no no it's slow slow slow and then it hits a moment where it's fast and and yeah I agree and I think as we know like legends

and icons

often know the things we don't.

I I I what the The last time I saw him, I was in that dressing room and it was the night before the gig.

And I said, I was like, yo,

I love you, man.

And it was so genuine to be able to spend 20 minutes with him and just kick it and just like hang out of him like he was like

fucking granded or something.

And he was just like,

so with it and so funny and so excited and nervous for his

gig the next day.

In the same way that I am for tomorrow.

No, I don't.

You know what I mean?

It's fucking beautiful.

So it's beautiful how genuine you are feeling about that.

And I know you'll forgive me when I say I totally recognize that.

And I also still feel much worse about Chico.

Yeah.

No.

It's your fucking, but that's cool.

It's your family.

It's your family.

And it's just like, you're just like, what?

Like,

and it makes you question everything, like, what the fuck?

Like,

it's so weird the way the universe acts and the way the universe behaves.

Life is brutal.

Death is brutal.

And it just is weird.

It's just fucking weird.

No, it is.

And that is as real.

And I want to make this

experience as real as I can make it.

Because otherwise, it's gonna, I can't, it's cathartic.

And you have to like confront it like that way that's the that's the until we figure out death maybe i ai will be doing that soon that's where we are somebody's gonna shovel dirt on your face yeah fucking weird mom or they're gonna burn you i don't want to be burned you want to be buried or burned

okay

that i don't want to be a fucking jar Fuck that.

Put me in the ground with the worms.

See, I don't want to be eaten by worms.

I think that's worse.

No, I'm down.

I'm down because I'll become a tree or some shit.

You want to be burned and be in a fucking jar?

You will not become a tree.

I might become a plant or some shit.

Well,

you will.

Yeah, I see your point.

My vibe is I don't want to be that in my fucking grandson's fucking fireplace

next to a

fucking picture.

My father was, we cremated him, and then a year after he was cremated, my son.

My granddad was cremated as well.

Yeah.

I tried to do the Keith Richardson snort a line of him at the funeral.

No, you did.

Yeah, I did.

I mean, me auntie was freaking out.

What's the most rock star thing you ever did?

Fucking hell.

That's such a crazy question to ask me.

Well, you just said you were going to snort a lot.

That's like, it's the...

Well, yeah, I tried to snort a line of my grandfather.

Yeah, and that was pretty...

Pretty sick.

But my auntie wouldn't have laughed.

What's the most rock star thing you ever did?

I mean, you imagine I've done it.

I can't.

Yeah, you fucking can't.

Yeah,

don't cough out everything.

I have done everything you've imagined.

Really?

Except heroin.

No heroin.

Me neither.

No heroin.

Tonight's the night.

All right.

Come on, we're going.

Come on.

Thank you.

Dude, thank you for having me.

I don't know if you're going to rehearsal or dinner, either way.

No, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing yet.

Okay, well,

you let me know.

I'm flying.

Okay.

What a fucking vibe.

That was fun.

That was so fun.

I loved

you.

I was so fun.

Yes, yes.

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