Club Shay Shay - Damon Wayans Part 1

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Speaker 4 Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp.
I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. And today, we're at Spotlight LA.

Speaker 4 Stopping by for conversation today, he's royalty, a true legend, a living icon, a comedic genius.

Speaker 4 He's been making us laugh for over 40 years, a pioneer, an innovator, a trailblazer in the film and television industry.

Speaker 4 He's appeared in two films that have been selected for the National Rec Film Registry by the Library of Congress. He's ranked as one of the greatest TV dads of all time.

Speaker 4 A New York Times best-selling author, a fearless artist, gifted writer, veteran actor, expert executive producer, seasoned stand-up comedian, and a great storyteller.

Speaker 4 He's mastered the art of creating characters, a member of the royal family, talented Wayans family dynasty that entertained the entertainment empire.

Speaker 4 They were just inducted into the NAACP Image Award Hall of Fame. Marlin calls him the funniest Wayans.
His influence has spanned generations.

Speaker 4 He changed the industry, kicked down doors, and built a blueprint that's sustainable.

Speaker 4 A creative visionary, a versatile entertainer, powerhouse performer, Hollywood heavyweight, a game changer, the love father. Sometimes he goes by Papa or Papa, Damon Wayans.
That's a chance.

Speaker 4 That's a hell of a resume. Yeah, it is.
When, I don't know how many times you had an opportunity to sit and listen to people explain what you've been able to do in this industry.

Speaker 4 When you hear people talking about you've been at this for 40 plus years, what do you think?

Speaker 4 I think it's wonderful that, you know, I had some longevity. And, you know, I always think about what's next.

Speaker 4 Because if you sit back and think about what you've done, like I can go on social media and I don't have have to leave the house. Everybody loves me on the end, you know, homie the clown for life.

Speaker 4 But it's like that doesn't like satisfy me. So I'm driven, and my whole family is driven, you know, hopefully for greatness.
And, you know, it's an honor that people like what I did. You know what?

Speaker 4 I know you don't drink anymore, but Brock, we got to toast you. We celebrate people here on this platform.
Well, I don't like toast, toast, clink the glass, but I will. Salute.
Thank you. Salute.

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 4 how are you doing? I'm good. I'm 65 and loving life.
65 and loving life?

Speaker 4 When you were 10,

Speaker 4 did you project out here? It's like, you know what? I'm going to do this, X, Y, and Z. Because I'm interested, because I had Marlon on, and Marlon always had an idea.

Speaker 4 He's like, man, this is kind of what I want to do. Did you always know you wanted to be in this? No, I had teachers tell me you're going to be either dead or in jail.

Speaker 4 So that's the guidance council that tells me that, you know, so like for me, it was just like I, at a young age, started looking to Keenan because Keenan just did everything right.

Speaker 4 He was just like my role model. And I knew if I could do what he's doing, I'll be all right.

Speaker 4 You know, my mother used to tell me, you need to be more like Keenan.

Speaker 4 I get bad grades. I was getting arrested.
I was doing all the wrong things.

Speaker 4 And then in 82, I got caught stealing credit cards and they released me into Keenan's custody. So I came out to California.
Damn.

Speaker 4 So you have a mom and dad, but they released you to the older brother. I didn't want to go to my dad.

Speaker 4 I'd rather stay in jail than go to my dad.

Speaker 4 My dad would beat you

Speaker 4 like he didn't know you. Right.
You know what I mean? I love him. And we needed it.
I needed it. But, you know, back then,

Speaker 4 now they call it child abuse. Yes.
Yeah. Back then, it was just, you know, I'm teaching this a lesson.

Speaker 4 You have 10 brothers and sisters. Nine.
Nine brothers and sisters. Under one roof.

Speaker 4 Bro. And I read that your father made like $12,000 a year.
Sometimes. Sometimes.
Okay.

Speaker 4 To feed that many kids, put a roof over your head to make sure everything's okay. Did you realize, like, damn, I wonder if everybody else is living like we living or we just the exception?

Speaker 4 They were living like we were living. I mean, you know, probably less people, but, you know, I had a friend, Rob Nett, and

Speaker 4 they were so poor the oven door was off.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 I swear, the oven door would be off. And when they cooked dinner, one of them would have to put their feet up on there until it got too hot, and then the other one would come in

Speaker 4 until the meat was done.

Speaker 4 So, you know, I was aware that everybody was going through it. We looked at the project.
There wasn't no rich people in the projects. How many bedrooms did the home have? Four.

Speaker 4 My mother got one, and then there was three of us to a room. Hell.

Speaker 4 So it was a lot of feet in people's face, huh? But

Speaker 4 my brothers tortured me.

Speaker 4 My oldest brother, Dwayne, used to hang me on the door, on the hook where your coat is. That's how he babysit me.
And I had to put my foot on the doorknob so I didn't choke to death.

Speaker 4 And then every once in a while he'd come check on me and punch me on my chest.

Speaker 4 You know what? Damon, you guys are like, your mom never had a stretch there where for like an eight-year period,

Speaker 4 they were 10-year period. They were good.
They had like eight, 56, 58, 60, 61, 63, 64, 65, 66. I was like, so were you all close? I mean, did you have sibling rivals? You fought like normal kids do?

Speaker 4 Or were you always like, because it seemed like Keenan was always the...

Speaker 4 The overseer. He was the peacemaker and what everybody looked to for guidance, even though he wasn't over.
Well, my oldest brother was crazy. The one that used to hang me under.

Speaker 4 Like, no, no, listen,

Speaker 4 he got diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. Okay.
So where we come from, everybody crazy. Everybody, there's a crazy, you know,

Speaker 4 Ronald Walker. Everybody knows he's crazy, off, but we didn't know there was medication for it.
It was just he was off. Okay.
And my brother was that guy. Okay.

Speaker 4 But he was so crazy that he kept people from messing with our family. Oh, okay.
Because nobody wanted Dwayne.

Speaker 4 Dwayne told a guy one time, he said, he said, we're going to fight every day until I beat you.

Speaker 4 White boy living in the building, he used to like bully, Bobby Boyd. And every day, Dwayne would just walk up and punch this dude in his face.
He'd get beat up every day. But he was relentless.

Speaker 4 He'd be riding on his bike. He'd see Bobby go, shoot,

Speaker 4 and they scrapping to the point where Bobby had him with his, he was sitting on his chest and punching him in the face going, all right, you won, you won.

Speaker 4 And he didn't want no parts of him because he had to like, he'd be outside with his back against the wall because he didn't know where this was coming from.

Speaker 4 But that told everybody else, don't mess with my family. Right.

Speaker 4 What's one of your proudest childhood memories that you can like share?

Speaker 4 Keenan getting his first gig on,

Speaker 4 you know, he did the Tonight Show. first

Speaker 4 and then he did a pilot with Irene Cara who was like this she was beautiful. She passed, but she's.
Flash dance, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 No. Fame.
Fame, yeah. She was,

Speaker 4 and we just thought, man, this is great.

Speaker 4 He dreamed it, and then he did it. Okay.
And that was like one of my favorite childhood moments because I didn't even think about, I wasn't even thinking about doing stand-up back then. You know what?

Speaker 4 I think you and I are similar in this way. Because my brother, I felt whatever I saw, I felt I can do.
So if I saw him do it, I could do it.

Speaker 4 If I saw him go someplace, I felt I can do it. So that's seemingly how you looked at Keenan.
You're like, well, damn, he's doing all that. He out in California, he's doing this.
Hell, he could do it.

Speaker 4 He lived in the project just like I did. He ate what we ate.
He got his ass tore from dad just like I got mine. So it's like, well, he didn't get as many.

Speaker 4 He didn't really. He was really, he was a good kid.
The good kid. Got straight A's.
And yeah,

Speaker 4 Keenan, the one thing he did

Speaker 4 that we got him for is like he got in trouble with school. And then this the teacher called home and Keenan said, I get it.
He ran and got the phone.

Speaker 4 He's like, yeah, and then he hung up and my mother came. My mother's like, who the hell was that? Because we're not supposed to answer her phone.

Speaker 4 And Keenan was like, it was Sammy Williams. And they knew he was lying.

Speaker 4 He got Sammy Williams called. And then he called back.

Speaker 4 They called the number back. And he's like, I get it.
And it was the teacher. My mother said, no, I'll get it.
And that was the only time Keenan really got his ass beat by my father. Wow.

Speaker 4 And then the jokes went on forever. Sammy Williams, anytime the phone rings, Kenya, go get his Sammy.

Speaker 4 But I read that when you guys would fight, your mom would make you guys kiss

Speaker 4 in the mouth. Huh?

Speaker 4 I learned how to tongue kiss with Marlon.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 but like, once you kiss your brother in the mouth, you don't want to do that. You don't want to fight? No, yeah, you've done it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, take this we go outside we'll find a place to finish this but like we didn't like kissing each other but to finish the kissing thing yeah

Speaker 4 like to this day we all kiss i noticed that hello and goodbye i noticed that because you never know what's gonna happen when they walk out the door even if i get into an argument and we yelling and screaming all right i see that and we i wonder you know what because i saw I noticed it when you guys won't live in color.

Speaker 4 And I noticed that. I was like, well, you know, they can't do this all all the time.
Yeah, all the time. And I saw you guys when you were at the NAAC, the Image Awards.

Speaker 4 Have you guys always been that close? Yes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we are our best friends. Like, the funny thing about being the Wayans is we don't, you know, Kim is very social.
She has a lot of friends. Marlin has a

Speaker 4 friend. Yeah.
I would never guess that. But Kim has like old school friends.
She's not out and about college.

Speaker 4 Her friends are from college. She grew up with Westland and from the project.
Okay. You know, so she has still a lot of those friends.

Speaker 4 Marlin still has Omar and Mitchell and all his like childhood friends. And

Speaker 4 my friends are my brothers and they're friends. You know, I'm cool with Omar.
I'm cool because as long as they love them, they vet them for me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, as long as they love Nicole. You're cool with him, Nico.
I'm cool with you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But so were you guys, because it's a lot of you brothers. So you guys kind of ran the neighborhood, huh? They didn't run the neighborhood because

Speaker 4 we moved into the projects and it was predominantly white. And then it slowly got blacker and blacker and more

Speaker 4 dangerous. Okay.
You know,

Speaker 4 but we were respected. And because of Dwayne, we were kind of protected because nobody wanted to fight this fool

Speaker 4 every day.

Speaker 4 You need to bully me or break. Like, I'm tired of that.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, so, but my mother would always tell us, listen, if you get into a fight, it's 10 against one. Wow.
So y'all should never lose a fight. And my mother make you go back downstairs

Speaker 4 and fight.

Speaker 4 So it wasn't no losing. No losing.
And my mother would fight for her kids. Damn.
Yeah, this woman slapped Kim once in the laundry.

Speaker 4 My mother went downstairs, hair all over her head, and the lady, she was pregnant. She beat the pregnant.
Your mom was pregnant or the lady was pregnant. My mother.
Oh. My mother was always pregnant.

Speaker 4 She had a tear of your spread. She was on her own.
She was a road, damn. Every childhood memory of her, she got a baby here and a bump here.

Speaker 4 That then stopped. My mother chased this woman from the laundromat to her house and then was going to fight her husband.
Damn. For her kids.
So nobody, you know, she would send a message.

Speaker 4 You don't mess with my kids. Right.
They don't want that crazy pregnant woman.

Speaker 4 Tell me about this game that you guys used to play, Make Me Laugh.

Speaker 4 Or the guy. Oh, that was a great game.
Because that was like commando comedy. Okay.
So what happens is we'd be sitting because we had to be upstairs at 6 o'clock.

Speaker 4 Unless you had a full-time job that demanded you to be out later,

Speaker 4 6 o'clock.

Speaker 4 Not 6.01, 6 o'clock. My dad is going to, you know, he's going to put hands on you.
So what we would do is we would all sit around in the living room, and then one would get up.

Speaker 4 and have to make everybody laugh in unison. It couldn't be one, like, no, you have to make everybody laugh.
And if you didn't, then you had to die.

Speaker 4 And the die would be something like, go grab daddy's beer and drink it in front of him. Oh,

Speaker 4 no, no.

Speaker 4 And we couldn't wait for you to not be funny. So we had incentive not to, we just sit there and just even if it was funny, you weren't laughing.

Speaker 4 Farted up. You wouldn't know what it was.

Speaker 4 So, did anybody actually drink his beer? Oh, yeah. You had to do the die or we beat you up.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 There was die or, you know, sometimes it was just like, nah, I ain't doing that. And then you got to take punches.
Right. From Duane, the one that used to hang.

Speaker 4 My brother hit you and make this sound.

Speaker 4 It made it hurt even more. Mm.

Speaker 4 You didn't want that. And then I read that you guys have to pass gas in front of your mom.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Come on, Damon. That's the whatever that whatever we chose, you had to do.

Speaker 4 Just go sit on my phone. I ain't playing.
Go sit on my mind. I want to laugh and funny.

Speaker 4 I don't want to play no more.

Speaker 4 I don't want to play no more. But it made us funny.
It helped make us funny. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 It's like there's this, like, you can kind of trace why, one, we were like, we are still best friends. And two, why we're funny because we made each other laugh and we weren't easy laughers.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Where did that, come from?

Speaker 4 Was your dad funny? Was your mom funny? Where do you think that came from? My mother. Your mom.
My mother was hands down the funniest woman.

Speaker 4 That's one of my only regrets in life that I never got my mom on stage. I wanted to have her go on stage.
Really?

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 there's this little room in Burbank called the Yoohoo Rooms, like 30 people. Have all of us in there, give my mom the mic, and then tell her, talk about Marlon.

Speaker 4 And my mother got not only stories, but she got punchlines. She knows where all the bodies at.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 Do you think, had she not had a family, all these kids, because she had to raise a family, do you think that'd be something that she would have been interested in? My mother used to sing at the,

Speaker 4 what is that, in Harlem,

Speaker 4 Apollo. Really? You know, the Green sisters, right? Harlem says, they're beautiful.
They won contests. They won, you know, prizes and stuff like that.
So her dream was to be a singer.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, kid after kid after kid.

Speaker 4 Putting that old hole in there before you know it.

Speaker 4 Get it out.

Speaker 4 So when you got, it's 12 people in a home, your mom, dad, and the siblings. What are you guys eating?

Speaker 4 My mother was a miracle worker. She'd feed all of us with $10 a day.
10? Three meals. We get a bag of knuckles, pig knuckles, we get a box of rice, we get, they used to make this this cereal called

Speaker 4 like puff of wheat, but this had no sugar on it. This was just like a big bag styrofoam.
We used to get that, we'd eat that.

Speaker 4 If we had sugar, we'd put sugar on it, but that was it.

Speaker 4 There was nothing nothing special, you know what I mean, about our meals. Did you ever complain like, man, I don't want to eat this? No, because

Speaker 4 my father didn't play about food. One time I hated peas and I hated lima beans.

Speaker 4 And whenever I get it, we would try to spit them out and my father would make you eat it up the trash. What?

Speaker 4 I did. One time we were being there, and what we would do is like sit around the table and we're eating this and we'd fill up our cheeks.

Speaker 4 And then we get up and excuse ourselves and go to the bathroom. And we would try to make you choke on the bean before you come.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my father didn't play with food.

Speaker 4 It seemed like your father was very, very disciplined, very strict. Do you think he was like that way because he had boys and he knew what was going on?

Speaker 4 Because this is the 60s, and the way it was back then is a lot different than it is now, but some things change and some things remain the same.

Speaker 4 You think he was the way with you guys because he knew what was going to fate you guys were going to face? Yeah, but it was that,

Speaker 4 and he didn't really have a dad, so he didn't really know. Okay.
And then he read in the Bible that you should spare the rod. Spoil the child.
Spoil the child.

Speaker 4 But the rod of discipline ain't always your hand. Yeah.
You can have a conversation. Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 Them old guys weren't like that doing that.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, I think we got extra spankings because he would go to work and come home and be unhappy. And, you know,

Speaker 4 it was just a lot. So I guess at a certain point, we were, you know, his little punching bag.
And plus, it's always noisy in the house. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But my mother hit him at the door. So we had to do, if you got in trouble, you have to sit in front of the door when my dad come in.
Uh-oh. And he saw y'all sitting there.
He knows something was up.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I was so scared of my father when I heard his keys jingle, I pee on myself.

Speaker 4 Take up. I ain't lying.
That's because he, I knew he, and my dad would beat you with stuff,

Speaker 4 like the slap from under the bed. Just like, did he ever say, I got a belt? Wait, hold on, yeah, take my belt.
Did he ever say, did he, did he?

Speaker 4 Dave was, hey,

Speaker 4 you take your belt off. Yeah.
And keep him from finding something else. Yeah, whatever he get, you know,

Speaker 4 the thing from the iron, the iron cord. Yeah, my dad.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I love him today because I knew he was protecting.
He taught us lessons. And, you know, you got 10 kids, so, you know, you're going to be the example.

Speaker 4 I'm going to beat you so he don't do what you did.

Speaker 4 Did he ever have a conversation with you guys? Did he ever? He got older. And you got older.
Yeah. You know, you don't understand it till you have your own kids.
Right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Like I have my sons. Right.
And then I go, oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Because my son, we grew up, they was up in Beverly Hills and they would hang out in the hood. Right.

Speaker 4 Got jumped into gangs. I got a crip and a blood living in my house.
I didn't even know.

Speaker 4 I didn't know. But that's like

Speaker 4 you have to watch your kids. You You know what I mean? It's like you you just have to just know that boys are different

Speaker 4 and they need they need you to hey

Speaker 4 You know, but was it a situation given how you was raised your dad was very strict very hands-on literally

Speaker 4 Did it make you take a step back and not be that way towards your own kids?

Speaker 4 I chose the comedic route with my kids. I was like my son if he messed up in school, he's like, oh, you're a clown.

Speaker 4 Okay. So, if you're going to be a clown, you're going to look like one.
And I shave all of this out of his head. And he just have the size.
Now, you go to school and you'd be a funny clown. So,

Speaker 4 you have a little young homie. Little young homie.
That's right. That's right.

Speaker 4 And they, you know, I would make up because they went to a private school, a crossroads, where they could dress how they want. No, you're going to put on a suit.

Speaker 4 You're going to be a well-dressed clown. That's how you won't be.

Speaker 4 And they go to school, and they would have what, you know, they think they can get slick and have, you know, some clothes in their locker. I show up at school.
Put your suit on, clown.

Speaker 4 I know the game.

Speaker 4 Why you ain't dressed up, clown. As a child, what would you say your favorite meal was?

Speaker 4 Beans, franks, sauerkraut, mustard, rolls, and

Speaker 4 yeah, beans, franks,

Speaker 4 sauerkraut, mustard, and rolls. Sauerkraut.
Oh, man. When you poor, sauerkraut.

Speaker 4 It's just something different. It's good.

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Speaker 4 So you eat beanie weenies? Yeah. Yeah, pork and beans with sugar on it.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
I mean, your dad worked three jobs. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 He still wasn't making enough.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 he dogged time when he get home, David. How he had time to whip ass.
Oh, he found a way.

Speaker 4 He worked overtime, Dean. Yeah, he had some sauce he had to look up for drinks.

Speaker 4 Hold on, you got in trouble for stealing from your dad.

Speaker 4 I stole 15 cents from my father and he missed it. And I'm like, I don't ever want.
Y'all that poor? He missed 15 cents.

Speaker 4 15 cents came downstairs, followed me down the stairs, and like, like a school bully, threw me against the wall with my money.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I know.

Speaker 4 I didn't take no dollars. So I'm just like, what? And I had it separated in my pocket.
Right. Right? Because I didn't, you know, you had to change.
And my father searched searched me.

Speaker 4 He packed you down. He stopped and frisked.
Took my, that's my, that's my nickel, 1964. That's my nickel.

Speaker 4 And he beat me right there on the stairs like like a dude off the street. Damn.
And I, like I said, I don't ever want to be that poor that I miss 15 cents. But that's with me today.

Speaker 4 That's part of my motivation. Damn.

Speaker 4 Did your siblings see it? When y'all got whippings, did they make fun of y'all? All the time. We mock you as soon as you come in.
Yes, daddy. Yes.

Speaker 4 That make it worse. That make it worse.
It was worse than the whipping.

Speaker 4 But how important do you think having your dad in your household,

Speaker 4 given what you know now, how important do you think that is to have a black man in the household? The greatest gift my father ever gave us was coming home. Damn, that's deep.

Speaker 4 Because my mother didn't make it easy.

Speaker 4 He was a dumb MF and all kinds of stuff. But he didn't, he didn't, you know, she wanted stuff in life, like new underwear, like stuff.

Speaker 4 She couldn't just little stuff, makeup and get a hair that couldn't do it. But he came home humble, you know.
Sometimes he had to tell her there ain't no food.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 4 Mr. Provider, you ain't got no food.
And you're trying to tell me what to do?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so, but, but that was the gift. That's like, you know, you come home, it doesn't feel good, but.
So he's working three jobs.

Speaker 4 He has to provide for this family. And when he gets home, your mother, your mom, doesn't make it easy.

Speaker 4 And I think Marlon said

Speaker 4 he could have easily understood if Pop would have checked out. Because it wasn't easy.
We used to say, what? Hit her or something.

Speaker 4 Damn, damn, damn.

Speaker 4 I ain't lying.

Speaker 4 My father, he would never, he never would, like, cuss at her. Really? Yeah, my father, when she died,

Speaker 4 he was ready to go. I miss her.
I miss my gal. What? The one that used to cut you out?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Every day.
You got peace now. You ain't got nobody cursing you.
I miss my gal. Damn.
He was just ready to go. Check, please.
But that's like he taught us love, like unconditional love.

Speaker 4 You know, he always saw her as the 16-year-old he fell in love with. Ooh, you know, that's beautiful.
You mentioned your mom had sisters and they would sing occasionally at the Apollo.

Speaker 4 Did your mom sing around the house? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Music was like, you know, that's one thing we always had in the house.

Speaker 4 And to this day, I listen to music all the time because those are some of the happiest times in our life. You know, when Al Green was on, you know, there was going to be peace in the house.

Speaker 4 I remember I took my mother and father to see

Speaker 4 Motown Review on Broadway. Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 And we're watching the play, and my mother and father sitting together, and my father goes,

Speaker 4 He just,

Speaker 4 my mother, nigga, shut up.

Speaker 4 He just started sobbing the subject to my life.

Speaker 4 And I was like, wow. It's powerful what music, I guess all the memories of what they went through is just beautiful.
But

Speaker 4 there's always music in the house.

Speaker 4 What are some of the best things your mom and dad taught you? And what would you want their legacy to be?

Speaker 4 My dad taught us stick-to-itiveness

Speaker 4 and that you have to,

Speaker 4 you do whatever you have to do to feed your family.

Speaker 4 You know? And you do what you

Speaker 4 can do until you can do what you want to do. Because my dad always had dreams of like being something.
Like my dad, listen to this, he was, he was Amazon before Amazon.

Speaker 4 My dad, so we lived in the projects. There were three buildings

Speaker 4 that was 25 stories tall, 10 families on each floor.

Speaker 4 So my dad would go to warehouses and get like Afro pics.

Speaker 4 And then he would put them on, we put them on cardboards and he'd send us door to door. That's 750 families.
Somebody need an Afro pick.

Speaker 4 And we'd go door to door and we have a pitch. You know, sometimes we get them beads that Serena Williams and them used to wear.
Yes. And you're not going to.
Who is it? You want to buy some beads?

Speaker 4 Nigga, what beads? I ain't got no beads.

Speaker 4 We just hold them up. Beads.
You want some beads? Get out of here with them beads. But, you know, you meet people who appreciate it.
You get to know everybody in the neighborhood. neighborhood.

Speaker 4 Some people just give you money just because. Just because.
Yeah, and then some people would throw the beads at you.

Speaker 4 Get your ass out of your side. I ain't got no money.
Or just take your beads and close the door.

Speaker 4 You see them outside. That's them niggas.
He got my beads on his head.

Speaker 4 Your family was raised, Jehovah's Witness. And there are a lot of the Jacksons,

Speaker 4 Prince, Biggie, Terrence Howe, Ja Rude, Naomi Campbell.

Speaker 4 Explain to me, because I don't really hold... All I know is that we closed the door in a lot of of them faces.
Yes.

Speaker 4 It was one of them faces.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So what do you think your mom and dad was drawn to about this religion? Well, my dad was drawn to it. My mother was not.
Okay.

Speaker 4 My dad just knew it was the truth. Okay.
You know, and so the kingdom we pray for, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be your name. What is the name? It's not God.
It's Jehovah.

Speaker 4 Let your kingdom come. What is that kingdom? Who's the king?

Speaker 4 Jesus. Let your will be done.
What's the will?

Speaker 4 As it is in heaven on earth. That's the will.
It's that we live in unity and be God. So man has plans.
God has a purpose.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I believe that. And you look at, all you got to do is read the news and then read 2 Timothy 3, 1 through 5.

Speaker 4 And you see, it's what it says, how people will be in these days.

Speaker 4 You know, critical times, hard to deal with, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemous, having a form of godly devotion, proving false to his power. This is where we are today.
Right.

Speaker 4 Are you still a practice in Jesus?

Speaker 4 Yes, and I love it. You know, I think

Speaker 4 the greatest

Speaker 4 feeling you'll have is to be at peace with God

Speaker 4 and peace with man because that puts you at peace with yourself.

Speaker 4 Because my prayers aren't, God, forgive me.

Speaker 4 No, thank you.

Speaker 4 Thank you for my family. Thank you for this journey.
It's nothing but like gratitude because I ain't living a life that I got to apologize for. There was a time I was wild, couldn't even pray.

Speaker 4 Never mind.

Speaker 4 You don't want to hear this.

Speaker 4 Do you, do Jehovah's Witness, do they celebrate holidays? Do they celebrate things? Because I'm trying to figure out, like, did you, did birthdays, were birthdays big in your family?

Speaker 4 No, my mother celebrated everything. My mother would celebrate Christmas, birthdays, you know.
And how did that work? He does and she does. I mean, my father would just go in the room.

Speaker 4 Are you a serious dad? Yeah, my mother would save money up all year to get us something. And one of the greatest Christmases we ever had was

Speaker 4 my father

Speaker 4 took the money and tried to open a business that she was saving.

Speaker 4 So we didn't have no Christmas. My mother sat us down, ain't gonna be no Christmas this year, y'all.

Speaker 4 What? No Christmas? That asshole in the room.

Speaker 4 And she would just told us what happened. My father wanted to have a business, right?

Speaker 4 And so we decided that we're going to write Santa Claus a letter. Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 And all of us wrote Santa Claus a letter. And then we mailed it off to the North Pole.

Speaker 4 Nothing.

Speaker 4 Nothing. Till Christmas morning.
A U-Haul truck pulls up to our house, bikes, all kinds of toys. It was just like, wow.

Speaker 4 That felt like Christmas. Wow.

Speaker 4 And then the next year, we tried to do it again. And the citizens were going to stop, niggas.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Tell your daddy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but it's okay because we, you know,

Speaker 4 most of the stuff is,

Speaker 4 you know, based in paganism. You know, I said on toast because that's some, it's an old Greek pagan thing where they clink it and you chase the demons away.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Well, if they hear from me when I'm drinking.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? I don't, you know, it's like people don't know what they do. They're celebrating stuff they don't know.
Right. Easter.
Just tradition that's been handed down.

Speaker 4 Right. It's once with

Speaker 4 knowledge comes power. Right.
Right. Once you know that Jesus' death is more important than his birth, right? Right.
Christmas,

Speaker 4 that's something that corporate America figured out how to get rid of all the inventory at the end of the year. Let's clean this out.
We'll have a sale. Call it Christmas.
Right.

Speaker 4 Because Jesus didn't celebrate his own birthday.

Speaker 4 Don't you think he'd have threw a party if it was important? Right. Yeah.
Change everything to wine. Everything's wine.

Speaker 4 True.

Speaker 4 Right. So it's like if it once you know, then it makes it easier to go, oh, okay, I get why I don't celebrate this.
You mentioned something earlier about.

Speaker 4 I never talked about my mother. You didn't? What she,

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 I poke jokes, right? But you asked, what did she give us? Love. My mother was the heartbeat of this family.
That's what Marlon said.

Speaker 4 And taught us how to love and how to, you know, even though she sometimes didn't practice what she preached, but how to get past grudges. That's your brother.
That is your sister. You love them.

Speaker 4 For the rest of your life, they're going to be your brother and sister. That's what my mother gave us, love.

Speaker 4 Did your mom ever discipline y'all? Yeah, my mom,

Speaker 4 my mom would do this thing. It was like, come here, let me slap your face.
She wouldn't even taste you. Come here, let me say, you be doing this.

Speaker 4 No, I think I stay over here.

Speaker 4 And then the trick was she gets you like this, and they, bam,

Speaker 4 ears ringing. You'd be like, what the?

Speaker 4 Yeah, my mom, but she had to be really, really mad at you to hit you.

Speaker 4 To pop your heads.

Speaker 4 That's some old people. They believed in slapping.
My grandmother grandmother slapped fire at your mouth.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm like, what is that about? Because it's better than a punch.

Speaker 4 A slap is more of a humiliation. It is.

Speaker 4 Asked Chris Rock. Oh, Lord, Help.

Speaker 4 Lord, have broken. No, I said, I didn't.

Speaker 4 Marlon told us his story about the foot.

Speaker 4 So you had a club foot.

Speaker 4 I have a club foot. It looked like I had.

Speaker 4 I have a club foot. I mean, what, you got a size 11 and a half and a nine? No, no.
Well, no, this,

Speaker 4 here's the thing. A club foot now, I don't have the same flexibility.
I was born with my foot twisted all the way around. Okay.
Right? So. So you had to wear the iron braces at the bottom?

Speaker 4 Yep, yep, orthopedic shoe. Came up to here.
You know, it was.

Speaker 4 It was high on one side, huh? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Thick, the Herman Monster. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I walked with a limp. Yeah.
But people thought it was cool because I

Speaker 4 perfected the limp.

Speaker 4 It's brother smooth. Because I wanted you to look up.
Right. You know what I mean? That was my whole thing in life when we played the dozen, get you to look up.
Don't look at the shoe.

Speaker 4 Because I'm vulnerable down here.

Speaker 4 So I hit you before you even look.

Speaker 4 Did you...

Speaker 4 Were you insecure about it? Were you self-confident about it? Super. No, you know what? I mean, self-conscious.
Severe. Super.
Because it was your family.

Speaker 4 Your brothers and sisters killed you about that, didn't they?

Speaker 4 I never felt like they had jokes, but there was so much love in my house, I never felt like them attacking me. Okay.
I know they talk about my little foot, but it's okay because

Speaker 4 I'm in on the joke. I'm laughing.
They see me with my pants off. Right.
You know what I mean? And it's a little baby foot. Yeah, yeah.
But

Speaker 4 it's okay. It was in love.
You put anything in love, it's okay. It's a sting out.
When you go outside, they were trying to get you. They got you.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 But I got them.

Speaker 4 In the true Kim would fight.

Speaker 4 People make fun of you for. All the time.
I'm a baby brother. I'm a old brother.
Or the brother.

Speaker 4 And you got little sister.

Speaker 4 Kick their ass.

Speaker 4 Like, like

Speaker 4 alley cat fight. You know, Kim is demure and, you know.
Yeah, she seemed real. And that's what when you told me she was social, she doesn't come off as social.
She seems very quiet, very subdued.

Speaker 4 I'm here for a purpose. I'm going to talk.

Speaker 4 when people need to talk to me, I'll talk to them. But I'm not, you know.
She's shy. She said, you know, she don't, none of my family like the limelight that Marlin.
Marlin.

Speaker 4 Marlin loves it. Me, Keenan, Sean, we, you know, we don't have to be seen.

Speaker 4 We rather Kim. We just rather not be seen.
Even juniors like that. They're like,

Speaker 4 I don't need that.

Speaker 4 Hold on. The doctors thought you were going to be a little person.
We can't use the M word. They thought you were going to be a little person because of the foot.
No, they put me in

Speaker 4 the special ed class. You? Yeah, because I'm in there with

Speaker 4 them. And my mother was like, no.
It's like, it's nothing wrong with them. But I got to know all the kids.

Speaker 4 Right. You know.
So they figure any abnormal malady and

Speaker 4 deformity that you had, there had to be something wrong with you mentally,

Speaker 4 emotionally?

Speaker 4 I think it's just because I was black. Oh.
You know, and they just like, here, let's, let's, let's put it in. True, because I remember those classes.

Speaker 4 I don't remember seeing a whole lot of white people in those classes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and they put me in there with the, you know, back then you call them retarded people, you know, and like I said, I made friends with some of them, you know, until I got with my other friends.

Speaker 4 Then I disowned them.

Speaker 4 Get out of here, Corky. Get on, man.

Speaker 4 Crap on my style, man.

Speaker 4 David, I know when the regular kids saw you going into those classrooms, bro. Oh, they would come by and tease me.
They'd be pointing at me and doing that. I'm like, oh, man.

Speaker 4 I mean, did you have homework? Did they give you homework? Did you have homework?

Speaker 4 Yeah, easy homework. Foldless paper.

Speaker 4 That was the homework. Yeah, foldless paper in half.
Ooh, you did good.

Speaker 4 I was the smartest kid in class. But finally.

Speaker 4 But you do realize, you do realize, David, like when you're in those classes, you stay in that class the whole day. You don't change classes.
No, my mother got me out.

Speaker 4 It was a quick stay. Okay.
You know, probably for like a week. But, you know,

Speaker 4 it was about a week.

Speaker 4 Marlon said, you were terrible in school. I mean, really bad.
No, here's, I was funny. So you went to school to tell jokes? Yeah.
You didn't go to learn. This is how my mind thought.
Okay.

Speaker 4 When I went to high school, I took Chinese, Mandarin Chinese, just because I knew it was so hard, I could fail it. Nobody going to see me.

Speaker 4 I'm telling you, I get to the class and it's me and everybody else is Asian. Because there's a proper way to speak Chinese.
Yes. Mandarin is not like.
It's not an easy language. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Each word has four different meanings.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, hey, it's Chinese, dad. I can't do it.

Speaker 4 But I was always like, I had one teacher, Mr. Freeman, who believed in me.
And in seventh grade, I used to call him Mike.

Speaker 4 I would get under the skin, but I would make him laugh. He was my science teacher, and he told me one day, so

Speaker 4 I would do stuff to try to stump him. So we were talking about inertia, right? He's teaching about inertia.
And I said, Mr.

Speaker 4 Freeman, yo, Mike, why is it that when you get on the train and the fly flies in and the train starts to move, the fly doesn't smash against the wall?

Speaker 4 He said, Well, the fly goes this. I said, No, the fly never touched the wall to go the same speed as the train.
Right. Why doesn't the fly when you take off?

Speaker 4 Because if you take off and you're not holding on, you fall back. Why doesn't the fly move? That part.
And he was like, he said, that's critical thinking. He said,

Speaker 4 and the thing about you, he said,

Speaker 4 you're brilliant. He said, you have a gift.
He said, the problem is I need to control the room. Right now, you are controlling my classroom, and that's not good for me.

Speaker 4 So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you five minutes on Friday to say or do whatever you want to do.
Wow. If you just be quiet.

Speaker 4 It was a trade-off. It was a trade-off.
And I would, you know, sometimes I would blurt out stuff, but, you know, for the most part,

Speaker 4 I honored that, and he honored that. Right.
And I couldn't wait for my five minutes every Friday. But he was the only teacher that ever told me that what I do is special.

Speaker 4 He's the only one that really believed in you. Everybody else thought you was an F up, class clown.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You dropped out.

Speaker 4 I got thrown out.

Speaker 4 So I got thrown out of,

Speaker 4 I went went to Murray Berkshire High School for Business Careers. This is the first

Speaker 4 high school to teach computer science.

Speaker 4 And they had like

Speaker 4 computers as big as this room. Wow.

Speaker 4 And that's like the cobalt. And they're teaching us this.
And my dumb behind,

Speaker 4 I had a teacher who I didn't like. And somebody gave me some mace.
And I'm in the class and I'm spraying mace. She made me sit right like this because I was such a, you know,

Speaker 4 right?

Speaker 4 So I'm spraying mace the whole time. She's talking.

Speaker 4 I didn't know mace was going to affect me too.

Speaker 4 Everybody in the class is,

Speaker 4 I got expelled from that school. Then I went to go, I had to go to another school.
Charles Evan Hughes got thrown out of that one for turning off all the lights in the school. Damn.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then I went to one of them schools where all you got to do is show up. You went to an alternative school? Yeah.
All you got to do is show up. I got thrown out of there.
Damn.

Speaker 4 So you realized school wasn't for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
I was, I just, I don't know, I was thinking funny.

Speaker 4 I got thrown out of one school because I threw a chair off the roof.

Speaker 4 I didn't want to hurt nobody, but in my mind, I thought like a cartoon, I wanted to see them go and their eyes bump out of their head and then run.

Speaker 4 Say, you could have killed me. I didn't, I like, I had no concept of killing this isn't in like fifth grade i didn't i didn't i wasn't trying to kill nobody

Speaker 4 but when you come home okay let me this

Speaker 4 you get thrown out of school how do you go home and tell or do the do the school call and tell your mom and dad that we're expelling damon or do you have to tell them no i get on the train and just ride it all day long

Speaker 4 that's what i do oh so they didn't know you got expelled they didn't know. No.

Speaker 4 When did you realize, hey, you know what, school ain't for me? The hell with this?

Speaker 4 Once I started doing stand-up, well, like, no, I don't think it was stand-up. It was just,

Speaker 4 I had to go to job court. Okay.
Because it was that or jail. And so I went down to Breckenridge, Kentucky, and it was the first time I ever saw a horse.
Like, like.

Speaker 4 A real horse that wasn't on TV, you could actually touch it. Oh, yeah.
One of them Central Park horses.

Speaker 4 Just foam out the mouth all day long. It was like a real horse.
And it was the first time I flew on a plane, the first time I smelt fresh air, you know, and I got my GED down there.

Speaker 4 I got my driver's license. Right.

Speaker 4 And I went for,

Speaker 4 what did I go for? I ended up taking accounting. So I learned how to do

Speaker 4 the numbers, right?

Speaker 4 And then I came back home, and that was like the first time I went,

Speaker 4 okay, I did something. I achieved something.
You felt a sense of accomplishment. Yes, the GED meant something.
My parents are so proud. And then I got a job at American Express.
Oh, Lord.

Speaker 4 I did. I got a job at American Express.
I was in the mailroom. And then they promoted me to mailroom supervisor because I had a way of making people laugh and, you know, building like a,

Speaker 4 you know, like... morale.
Yes. Right.
So I had the late shift. I worked from seven o'clock to seven in the morning.

Speaker 4 And we had to, I always found a way, and I thank my dad for this, of making a job fun.

Speaker 4 So we had to

Speaker 4 open up the mail. You get 550 envelopes.
You got to take them out, open it up. Then you have to decide, is this a change of address? Is this a return of a credit card? Is this,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 whatever it is, you had like a million dollars. So you had to manually do it.
Right.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 the quota was to do five boxes i used to do 15 wow and i'd have my music on and i'd have uh my basket here and i would just go and because they had a machine that would open it for you for you right but i was that fast and that the i remember the the the controller walked in one day that that was his position like the manager and he said

Speaker 4 i never seen nothing like this and i would make the other people in the mailroom and say, man, slow down. You make us.
You look bad. Yeah.
But they made me the supervisor.

Speaker 4 And then I had everybody giving them 10 boxes a night. Wow.

Speaker 4 Now, stand up.

Speaker 4 How do you go from being at American Express to the stand-up?

Speaker 4 I always admired Keenan. And then so with Keenan, he would...
I would go to the improv and watch him perform. And then sometimes I'd get, Keenan, you should try this joke, try this.

Speaker 4 And he would do it. And then we get laughs.
And so that was the first time I ever thought, well,

Speaker 4 I thought about that. He said it and got a laugh.
Maybe. If I used it for myself.
Yeah, maybe I,

Speaker 4 right?

Speaker 4 And then

Speaker 4 Robert Townsend one day, I was still working at Smilers and the Delicatessen.

Speaker 4 And Robert Townsend

Speaker 4 and Keenan were in like a little improv group, right? It was like Reggie Van Johnson and

Speaker 4 Melvin George. There's like four people.

Speaker 4 And they brought me in because Keenan told them Damon could do characters. So I'm just there and I'm just like doing all this stuff that me and Keenan would do all the time.

Speaker 4 And I remember Robert's face like this.

Speaker 4 And he said, you got it.

Speaker 4 And I didn't,

Speaker 4 I had to go, you know, do the sandwiches tomorrow. I didn't really like think about what he said.

Speaker 4 And then in 1982, I was so proud. This Keenan got his little sitcom.
And I was telling my wife, you know, Lisa, I'm like, man, Keenan, Kenan, Kenan, you know what? You need to go do stand-up.

Speaker 4 Otherwise, I'm going to go sleep with Keenan because

Speaker 4 you make him sound wonderful.

Speaker 4 So I started doing stand-up. And the first time I went on stage, I fell in love with it.

Speaker 4 And I didn't do good. I actually bombed, but I got one laugh.
And comedy is like golf. All you remember is a good shot.
Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what everybody says.

Speaker 4 Everybody say you, you get, it's not the boo that you remember, it's that one, it's that one laugh that gets you hooked. And you're like, yeah, this is my calling.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I knew it. I knew it like

Speaker 4 as I was doing it. Like, this feels good.
Is it a high?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like a runner's high, especially when you come off stage. You know, the thing is, when you're first starting out and you're doing it, you come off stage, you can enjoy the high.

Speaker 4 When you become, you know, famous or whatever, you, you know, people want to,

Speaker 4 and it just ruins the high.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Like, you interact because you want to enjoy that moment. You have like out-of-body experiences.
Wow.

Speaker 4 You know, when you do stand, when you have a great show, it's like you just sit back going, watch this nigga work, go, go.

Speaker 4 You know, and you forget about the pain in your back and, you know, just everything,

Speaker 4 it just feels right.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, it's definitely a runner's high.

Speaker 4 Wow. And so now

Speaker 4 you're doing stand-up. You're like, okay, now you don't want to do anything else but that.
Or did you have another job? No, I had other jobs because I had to have, you know, I had kids.

Speaker 4 Stand-up ain't wasn't paying like it is. They were paying back then, huh? Right.
Well, you know, stand-up would pay you a burger.

Speaker 4 That's what you got. You got a free burger, maybe some fries, and a soda.

Speaker 4 That was your pay. But, you know, then

Speaker 4 they had a strike and they started giving you money for cabs and gas money, you know, so you can make $20 here.

Speaker 4 But, you know, any real comedian that's really about it hits the stage five times a night. So you're not just making, you know, $20, you're making $120.

Speaker 4 You're making, right?

Speaker 4 So you can live off of

Speaker 4 back then that was that was that was good money. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 How did you and Eddie meet?

Speaker 4 Through Keenan. Okay.

Speaker 4 So Eddie

Speaker 4 would come see me do stand-up. He would bring Prince, Rick James.
He just thought like the stuff I was doing was really innovative.

Speaker 4 And then I started hanging out with him and Keenan.

Speaker 4 You know, the first thing Eddie would do when he came out during like Saturday Night Live, and he would call Keenan and go, Man, watch this buckwheat tonight. Watch buckwheat buckwheat got shot.

Speaker 4 And I'm just like, so at the time I was doing stand-up, before I met Eddie, I'm like, who is this Eddie Murphy everybody talking about? Because as far as I was concerned, I was the next.

Speaker 4 Right. And then I watched him do James Brown getting in a hot tub.
And I was like, this dude is amazing.

Speaker 4 Amazing. And I became, you know, in awe of Eddie.

Speaker 4 And when, and, and the fact that him and Keenan were like friends right as soon as he came out Kenan come on and they they hang out to the wee hours of the morning and you tagging along tagging along Eddie was would actually

Speaker 4 bring me my wife and my sons on boat rides like he would rent a yacht and go around the marina and it'd be I was the only family of just all these pretty women

Speaker 4 and Eddie and his boys. You were like,

Speaker 4 yeah, and Eddie would come over, always make time to come over and sit down with us and go, y'all got something special. This is what I want.

Speaker 4 And he goes, now I'm going to get some.

Speaker 4 But, you know, that was so wonderful for

Speaker 4 me

Speaker 4 and to

Speaker 4 see

Speaker 4 that life. Right.
You know what I mean? Because I never had it on that level. You know what I mean? I was married from, you know, since 19, what,

Speaker 4 84 or something like that. So I didn't.
Damn, you ain't got a chance to enjoy the single life of your stand-up. I did.
I broke up my marriage.

Speaker 4 Don't worry. I broke up my marriage.

Speaker 4 And sick.

Speaker 4 I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 And I regret it. Really? Yeah, because, you know, in show business,

Speaker 4 you think that

Speaker 4 this chemistry you got with this person, this actress is like special and pure. And then what you don't realize is she gonna go do that on the next role with somebody else.

Speaker 4 And you'll be like, but I left my wife for you.

Speaker 4 You know what? Tell her the stuff you told my character. She'll take you back.

Speaker 4 You'd be like, wait, what?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

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Speaker 4 You got an opportunity to deal Eddie up close and personal. What is something about Eddie that you could share that people wouldn't realize about him, that wouldn't know about him?

Speaker 4 The funniest guy of my generation, for sure.

Speaker 4 His mind is like a Rubik's Cube, the way he processes comedy.

Speaker 4 And he's one of the most giving people. Like, you know, Eddie can steal scenes.
He doesn't have to steal scenes because he's the star. Right.
Right.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 the thing I learned from Eddie was letting other people shine. You bring somebody in, when I did

Speaker 4 The Banana Man, I was still working in the mailroom. And he's like, he told Marty Brest, the director, you got to let him do it.

Speaker 4 He wanted me to play

Speaker 4 the Brunson Pinchon character,

Speaker 4 who did a wonderful job.

Speaker 4 But the director was like, nah, he's unseasoning it. And he said, all right, then let him do this one little scene.

Speaker 4 And Eddie was like,

Speaker 4 laughing in the scene. You know, I'm with the biggest star in the world.
And he's making me feel funny and encourage me and go, no, no, no, seriously.

Speaker 4 He says, and the director was like, we got to move on. And he's going, no, we're going to do this.
And we got that take. And it was just like

Speaker 4 just the fact that he cared enough, you know, to make sure that I shined was beautiful. And then, you know, Eddie put on

Speaker 4 Robert Townsend, my brother, you know, all the people that he put on in this business. I don't think people really give him

Speaker 4 the credit he did. Arsenio, he was on Arsenio's show, you know, multiple times to support his friend.
You know what I mean? Paul Mooney. Yeah.
Eddie put everybody on.

Speaker 4 How did you get on? How did

Speaker 4 Beverly Hills cause happen?

Speaker 4 Eddie would see me do stand-up. He saw that character.
He's like, you got to do this. And he made them put me in the movie.

Speaker 4 Eddie

Speaker 4 SNL.

Speaker 4 A lot of people have gotten, nobody's been bigger than Eddie, SNL, and blew up. I mean, there have been other guys, but nobody like Eddie.
You was on SNL for

Speaker 4 a minute. Half a season.

Speaker 4 What did you think SNL was going to be as opposed to what you got once you got on SNL?

Speaker 4 Well, I grew up,

Speaker 4 you know, when we watched Richard Pryor on SNL, you know,

Speaker 4 the famous sketch with Chevy Chase and, you know, him with

Speaker 4 Lily Tomblin playing the drunk. And, you know, it's like, wow, he's bringing our flavor to this show.
Because before it was white, it was funny.

Speaker 4 You know, John Belussi, brilliant, and all those guys was brilliant. But it wasn't us.

Speaker 4 And then I was like, I was born to do this. And Eddie had just left.
Eddie actually came to my, you know, celebration party before I went to New York because I was living out here.

Speaker 4 And he told me, he said, Look, man, learn to write your own sketches because they're going to put you in it and you're going to hate it. They're going to give you black stuff to do.

Speaker 4 You're going to hate it. And so when I went there,

Speaker 4 he was right. And I was writing sketches.
Right. But they would shoot it down.
This dude would like sit there, read my sketches in front of me, and go,

Speaker 4 oh,

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 4 I just don't get it. I just got tired of getting shot down.
They would, you know, like, and I kept getting told, well, we're trying to protect you from the Eddie's, you know, aura. Right.

Speaker 4 It's like, Eddie's gone. And what I, I knew that the characters that I wanted to do

Speaker 4 were nothing like Eddie's. It would be no comparison, you know?

Speaker 4 Because I didn't really do impressions. I didn't do the kind of stuff Eddie did.
These are, you know, the funny thing is, I did an interview for SNL and they showed me my audition tape.

Speaker 4 In the audition, it's a 12-minute tape of me doing

Speaker 4 Homie the Clown,

Speaker 4 Men On,

Speaker 4 Handyman,

Speaker 4 the seven characters that I did ultimately on

Speaker 4 in Living Color,

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 4 I showed them what I could do. And I was writing stuff for these characters.
Kept getting shot down. So I just, I didn't care.

Speaker 4 I just changed characters on them during a live show, and I was like, Yeah, give me the ball or let me go. Let me ask you this: Were you becoming frustrated?

Speaker 4 Because you're like, I'm doing this, and every time I try to do something, every turn, you shoot it down. It's that, and then the stuff they were giving me.

Speaker 4 There was one sketch they wanted me to stand in a loincloth with a spear

Speaker 4 with no lines.

Speaker 4 So, what the hell are you going to be doing? Just standing there? I'm going to be stabbing somebody with this spear.

Speaker 4 If you think I'm doing this, and I told them, I said, I can't do this. My mother is going to watch this show.
I can't do this. And they're like, Yeah, I got it.
You know, you got to service the peace.

Speaker 4 That's what I was told. Service the peace.
I didn't do it. And then it was.
So, how do you say, how did you tell, how did you respectfully tell them no? It wasn't respectful.

Speaker 4 I didn't, I just said no. I don't care who you call.

Speaker 4 I'm not doing this. I didn't do it.
We had this woman, Dinitra Vance, who is this,

Speaker 4 she was very talented,

Speaker 4 but she did it.

Speaker 4 And I was like, Dinitra, don't, if we stand together,

Speaker 4 it means something. You make me look crazy.
She wanted that role. She wanted to be on Saturday Night Live that day.
Yeah, she is with this beer.

Speaker 4 A boobity.

Speaker 4 Trying to improvise.

Speaker 4 So what's the pay like on SNL? Nothing. I was paying $1,500

Speaker 4 a week.

Speaker 4 So let me, because I'm always interested. So how does, explain to people at home, how does SNL work? So how often, do you come in there like, okay, the show is going to air Saturday night?

Speaker 4 Are you guys rehearsing during the course of the week? You come in Monday. Okay.
It's a writer's night. Okay.
So you come in and you pitch ideas. Okay.
Right?

Speaker 4 And then they say, yeah, go off and write them. So you start writing.
Tuesday,

Speaker 4 you write into Tuesday morning, and then we do the table read with all the collection of sketches. You read probably

Speaker 4 45 sketches, like on a, I forget if it's Tuesday or Wednesday. And then you start rehearsing.
You start picking the sketches, and then you start rehearsing Friday and then till Saturday.

Speaker 4 And you're writing sketches

Speaker 4 kind of like

Speaker 4 what's funny in today's. What's funny today? Because I remember I saw that when I had the Cat Williams, they ended up doing a spoof of cat.
So, you guys are writing things or trying to like

Speaker 4 what's happening in the real world and make them funny. I was writing character-driven stuff, I wasn't writing like, because here's the problem when you do kind of social-political stuff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there are no good Nixon jokes, right? Right? It's dated. You date yourself because events happen and then something else happens, and then people forget, what was that? Right.

Speaker 4 So, when you do characters, characters, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger is always going to be funny. He can have a real curve.
Brown, you know, all the stuff Eddie did, you know, pomp you up.

Speaker 4 You know, there's a bunch of catchphrases that they, that, that are in the, you know, the zygote because of, you know, character-driven comedy. That's what people relate to.

Speaker 4 Right. Let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 You say you lasted half a season, but you were fired after one season.

Speaker 4 I did. I got fired.
No, after,

Speaker 4 in the middle of the season.

Speaker 4 Are you the only one that's ever happened to? Has anybody that you know of? I got fired live. I didn't even make the good nights.
Damn.

Speaker 4 They didn't even let the curtain come down. I didn't say goodnight.
He said, get the hell out of here. Who told you that? Lauren Michaels.
He was red in the face. John Belushi never did this to me.

Speaker 4 You had Lib, didn't you? I did more than that.

Speaker 4 I said, get me out of here. Everything I did was to go.
But see, God has plans. Right.
Right? So, and Living Color

Speaker 4 was

Speaker 4 my

Speaker 4 vindication. Did you know, hold on.
You said

Speaker 4 you did everything you could to get fired. Did you know Keenan was in the process of doing it? No, because this was in 86, and Living Color wasn't until 1990.
Yeah. Right?

Speaker 4 So I was...

Speaker 4 Like, I was so angry when I was there. I was walking around.
I had these shades on, like, black, like, I guess they're Ray-Bands. And they go, why are you wearing glasses? It's too white in here.

Speaker 4 It hurts my eyes. Damn.

Speaker 4 What you thought they were.

Speaker 4 I didn't want. Well, you know, you get shot down.
The thing is, like, now I was young. Right.
I didn't know. I didn't understand producing a show.
Oh,

Speaker 4 very.

Speaker 4 Very. Because I felt like, you know, they

Speaker 4 were trying to Garrett Morris me. Okay.

Speaker 4 And Garrett Morris is a wonderful man. I love him.
But back then,

Speaker 4 you know, they used him like a prop. Right.
You know what I mean? And

Speaker 4 that's not why I did stand-up. I'm ready, guys.
I'm locked and loaded. You've seen the tape.
You know what I can do. But it wasn't meant to be.
Right.

Speaker 4 What did Keenan say when you told him, like, man,

Speaker 4 I ain't going to be on SNL no more, bro? Good.

Speaker 4 Good.

Speaker 4 If they're not going to let you do what you do,

Speaker 4 then, you know,

Speaker 4 it doesn't make no sense to be there. Something else will happen.
And the great thing about doing stand-up is,

Speaker 4 after I did Saturday Night Live, I could get booked in comedy clubs and make good money because I'm featuring the guy who got fired from Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 4 I can use that.

Speaker 4 And so I was making, stand-up allows you back then, $10,000 a weekend. Damn.
That's good money. Hell yeah.
Good money. What you mean?

Speaker 4 Was good money is. Right.
More than I was making on SNL. Right.
So it's like, yeah, okay. So I started doing stand-up.
And it's been a very

Speaker 4 lucrative?

Speaker 4 Lucrative, but

Speaker 4 it's always good to know that you don't have to do something. Wow.
Because I can make money. I can feed my family.
My dad ringing in my ear. As long as I can feed my family, you can't touch me.

Speaker 4 Do you feel it was a situation because you came on so soon after Eddie left? And many people believe Eddie had gotten too big for SNL and they didn't want to run that same risk with you.

Speaker 4 That might have been some of it, you know, but I, I mean, whatever it was, don't hire me if you don't want me. Right.
You know what I mean? Don't hire me if you're not going to let me do, because

Speaker 4 I can do what Eddie did.

Speaker 4 Do you know how many people watched the show when Eddie was doing it? Yes.

Speaker 4 Why don't you want them? Because they negate our audience. The audience that Eddie brought there, I was coming in thinking I would service them.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Black people would give me a shot to be funny. Right.
Before they start comparing me, they ain't going, ah, he trying to be Eddie because I got a different flavor. Right.

Speaker 4 Robert Downey Jr. was also in your cast.
He got fired after the year, too. Damn.
Yeah, right. Not what homeboys are.
Yeah, so

Speaker 4 Robert Downey and Michael Anthony Hall, we called them the kids, and they were the ones that

Speaker 4 thought I was funny. So we would connect and they knew that it wasn't funny.
What we were doing was, so we had all these

Speaker 4 inside jokes about that sketch is not going to work. And they knew how bad it was.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, we became good friends. I love Robert.
Yeah. Tracy Morgan said he felt culturally isolated on SNLs, called it the whitest show in America.
It is. It is.
Because,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I mean, I love Lauren Michaels. To do anything for 50 years.
That's a long time.

Speaker 4 You deserve your flowers, you know?

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 when you go up and look at

Speaker 4 the people who run the show, the writer's room, it's all white and it's not like, you know, it's not like. It's not diverse like the people in.
Right.

Speaker 4 It's not, you know, Neil Brennan is funny, the guy who wrote with

Speaker 4 Chappelle, you know, he's funny. But you got all these guys that come out of Harvard

Speaker 4 who write for like magazine. Magazine funny ain't funny.
Yeah. They would do sketches like Tornadoville.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So you go to this town where there's a tornado and people walk around with hangers in their head.

Speaker 4 All right, but I'm like, well, who are the people? And what's the character with the hanger in his head? What does he do? What's funny about him? You know, they didn't want to hear that. Right.

Speaker 4 Have you talked to Tracy? I know he had an incident a couple of weeks last week on the sideline. He had food poisoning

Speaker 4 at the Knicks game. I don't want to talk to him with his sick stomach and get away.

Speaker 4 I can give him some Pepto-Bismol.

Speaker 4 Now, I love Tracy. I met Tracy in New York

Speaker 4 in a club in the middle of the winter. And I remember this because he didn't have no shirt on.
And he was sweating. I'm like, it is four degrees outside.
Where'd you go?

Speaker 4 I'm going to get these girls pregnant. I'm here to get somebody pregnant.
And he had a little big belly. I'm like, you look pregnant.

Speaker 4 Chris Rock. Damn, everybody getting fired from SNL.
Chris Rock. And then he tried out for In Living Color.
I think Martin also tried out for In Living Color. Probably.
But we were gone. You go there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we weren't there.

Speaker 4 So when Keenan pitches In Living Color to you,

Speaker 4 what are you thinking? And you like, this is it. This is our chance.
This is my chance to show my comedic genius.

Speaker 4 Whatever Keenan wants to do. You know what I mean? We did,

Speaker 4 before we did In Living Color, he had done, I'm going to get you a sucker. Yes.
So, and then we had done the Robert Townsend Partner in Crimes. He had written, you know, sketches for that.

Speaker 4 And, you know, the funny thing is they told, Keenan asked Robert if he could direct some sketches. And Robert's like, nah, man, you're too lazy.
All you want to do is chase girls.

Speaker 4 And he said, you got to be disciplined to do this. And Keenan was hurt.
He's like, what? Bro, we'd have hung out. We were chasing girls together, bro, and now you.
Right.

Speaker 4 And so Keenan locked himself in his room

Speaker 4 for two weeks and wrote, I'm going to get you sucker.

Speaker 4 Wow. And then he directed, but that was his fuel.
Right. You know what I mean? It's exactly what he needed to hear.
Right. And then when we did I'm going to get you sucker, it was so much fun.

Speaker 4 There's nothing like showing up to a set

Speaker 4 where it's a party and then you're filming. You know what I mean? You're filming too, but the environment is just so fun and creative.
And that's what In Living Color was.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm going to get you sucker and the Robert Townsend partner in crime. And then they paid you too, you know? But it was just the fun that we had is

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Speaker 4 The thing is, is that when you do stand up, and we saw the incident with Will and Chris, have that ever happened to you? Has somebody ever ran up on stage?

Speaker 4 A heckler ran up on stage, or somebody run up on stage? I wish he may.

Speaker 4 You know how heavy that mic stands?

Speaker 4 I'm busting it too to white meat.

Speaker 4 No, I've not, you know, you get into situations where people heckle.

Speaker 4 You know, but

Speaker 4 a man ain't going to try you. If you think he can get you.

Speaker 4 Exactly. If you stand your ground and,

Speaker 4 you know, I learned this from my brother. It's It's like, not everybody,

Speaker 4 a lot of people talk, but I'm gonna hit you first. If I feel threatened, tension, you got to get off, chopped right in the throat.
You ever been chopped in your throat?

Speaker 4 I wish you would try to fight. Have this somebody pop! Right, it's quick.
I don't want to fight, right? I'm 65 years old,

Speaker 4 but I win. I ain't got that kind of wins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't wrestling.
You ain't gonna build your rep off me.

Speaker 4 But you were in bambooza with Jada. Yeah, I love jada yeah um we had a great time spike lee was um

Speaker 4 so generous and just like this awesome it was an awesome experience because this is the first time he actually used 10 cameras at one time and spike would go all right damon you come in you you all i need you to do is not put your hand down because there's a care camera here So that's the kind of direction he would give me.

Speaker 4 But because he believed in what I was doing in the rehearsal, and so it was really about, wow, we were doing like 200 setups in a day. That's like ridiculous,

Speaker 4 you know, but he was like really brilliant with that. And Jada, we had so much fun

Speaker 4 on that and just taking chances. And,

Speaker 4 you know, what happens is the show business changes you.

Speaker 4 Really? Yeah, because, you know,

Speaker 4 you,

Speaker 4 and I don't, I'm not speaking on Jada, I'm talking about in general,

Speaker 4 Only God should be famous

Speaker 4 And you see how he do it? He stay invisible because he know people stupid

Speaker 4 You know because it's it's a psychological this guy's all messed up and they out there partying and and and it's never enough

Speaker 4 Because it's not what you don't deserve this You don't deserve to have a threesome.

Speaker 4 Go back to the ghetto where you came from get you get and then you you deserve it ain't never happened and and the thing is when you look yourself in the mirror you know you ain't you put you got to put on a these airs and pretend that you deserve it because you don't wow i'm looking at some of the the the the people that was only living color

Speaker 4 You became even bigger. David Allen Greer, Jamie Fox, Jim Carey.

Speaker 4 And I had Marlon, and Marlon said, J-Lo.

Speaker 4 What did you call him? J-Lo. J-Lo.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And he said he knew. Did you know Jim Carrey was going to be that? Yeah, I'm the one that brought Jim to Keenan.

Speaker 4 So me and Jim used to be in the comedy clubs. Jim Carey is a master impressionist.
Yes. Like he does

Speaker 4 like Sean Penn. Yeah.
Like weird, like Michael Landon.

Speaker 4 He would get standing ovations in a comedy club during a 20-minute set. Now, any comedian will tell you that's damn near impossible.
There's few and far between that can do that.

Speaker 4 That's how good he was. But he hated doing the impressions because people thought that's all he did.
So me and him, after Sam Kennison made it, like,

Speaker 4 we made a pact that we're gonna push each other. So he would go on stage, he couldn't do his impressions, and we just yell out stuff to him.
And then he would do the same thing for me.

Speaker 4 And we would just challenge each other on stage. We had nothing to lose.
Right. You know, but Jim,

Speaker 4 I truly knew he was special. Special.
And it didn't take Keenan long to go, he's the guy. Because they saw every white boy in Hollywood for that role.
Right.

Speaker 4 And when he came in with fire march.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he did that on stage at the comedy store. He was messing around with a match on stage.

Speaker 4 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 But the one thing he's always

Speaker 4 given your family and Kenan and yourself your flowers. He says, when Hollywood turned their back on me and didn't believe in me,

Speaker 4 this black family did. And they gave me a platform.
He's Eminem.

Speaker 4 Y'all did for him what Dr. Dre did for them, huh? Yeah, but listen,

Speaker 4 when I see Jim, it's all love. It's like, that's how you know

Speaker 4 your family. It's like when you see your old teammates, you just pick up like it was yesterday.
You don't see them, man. Man, why you ain't calling? It's none of that.

Speaker 4 It's just like instant, instant connection. Right.
And we just talk about, you know,

Speaker 4 anything without resentment.

Speaker 4 It's just love. David Allen Greer, Tommy, you know.
Yeah, Tommy Day. I forgot about Tommy.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's all love. Jamie, and because

Speaker 4 we fought a fine fight and we won.

Speaker 4 How did the hell did Keenan convince Fox? Well, it's not so convinced now because, you know, they kind of do, they kind of go against the grain over there.

Speaker 4 But how did he convince them at that time to put in living color what you guys were doing on the air? Well, the funny thing is they came to him.

Speaker 4 After they saw I'm going to get you sucker, the reaction, they didn't, they were like, what the hell? Like, people would get up and run out the theater. you know we laugh

Speaker 4 teeth falling out yeah yeah

Speaker 4 and they didn't understand it and they wanted to meet with him immediately and it's like look and so Keenan took this meeting thinking that they wanted to do a film deal a movie yeah right so he's in there and they're telling him about you know how great it is and we want that kind of edge and they say we got a network

Speaker 4 We're going to do a new network coming up. And Keenan was like, okay, the meeting is over.
And he went to walk out the door and he goes, wait, wait, wait, wait. You can do anything you want to do.

Speaker 4 Anything?

Speaker 4 That part.

Speaker 4 And that's actually a lyric in the Living Color song. You can do what you want to do.
The thing is,

Speaker 4 we did do anything we want. And then, so we were a mid-season replacement.
Right? Supposed to come out in February or something. Right.

Speaker 4 And they got it. They were so scared of that they went to the JDL.
They went to the NAACP,

Speaker 4 push,

Speaker 4 you know, everybody to try to get them to sign off. And they would like, give us money, we'll sign off for it.
And then, you know, it's like they

Speaker 4 was like, they didn't know what to do. So we missed that window.
We missed the fall season. Because they still didn't want to know what to do.

Speaker 4 And then Barry Dillard just went, you know what, put it on. Let's see.

Speaker 4 if people are having this kind of reaction to it, let's put it on. That's what we wanted.
And then the rest is history. Wow.

Speaker 4 So now you go from, did you feel vindication going from SNL to Living Color? Because everything that you did on In Living Color, you had tried to do on SNL and they said, nah, it ain't going to go.

Speaker 4 And now you're getting rave reviews. Everybody's talking about Homie the Clown.
They still talk about Homie the Clown. Home of the Clowns on T-shirt.
Hilarious. No, I ain't getting no money for that.

Speaker 4 Thank you for telling me.

Speaker 4 You should have copyrighted home.

Speaker 4 Well, the thing is, it's all good. It's, you know, it's love.
And, you know,

Speaker 4 everybody got to eat. It's okay.

Speaker 4 Vindication, no. I think it.

Speaker 4 Validation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but in Living Color was the validation. It has nothing to do with SML.

Speaker 4 I buried that as soon as I left. It was like I never looked back.
What if they called you come back? You the way back?

Speaker 4 I would host it, and I would host it. I did host one, and he brought me back to do stand-up at the left.

Speaker 4 You know, Lauren is very forgiving, you know, but he had to show me who's boss, and that's fine. Right.

Speaker 4 You know, but in the end, he know, and I know, that it was the best thing for me to be off the show. Right.

Speaker 4 I saw Jerry Seinfeld explaining the importance of failing at doing your way.

Speaker 4 Because a lot of people, and I've said this about sports, A lot of times people would rather lose their way than win someone else's way because they lose themselves. That's not who they are.

Speaker 4 And it seems to me that she's like, look, if I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down doing things my way. I'm not finna go down doing it your way because I'm not being authentic to myself.
Right.

Speaker 4 But I had already gotten the warning from Eddie. Right.
So when I walked in, I knew it wasn't a team. We weren't playing team ball.
Oh. I was the n ⁇ on the team.

Speaker 4 So I just knew that I, you know, this ain't, and what he was saying was playing itself out in front of me. So I, you you know, when you talk about sports, sports is a team game,

Speaker 4 yeah. It's a game, right? You know, and you can be the best person

Speaker 4 in the game,

Speaker 4 but it's still.

Speaker 4 If the team don't play well around you, you lose. Right.

Speaker 4 And if you try to take all the glory, then people are praying for your downfall, and it may not block the next time.

Speaker 4 True. Right?

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 you have to, you know, these are your brothers that you are out there trying to, you know, compete in this war. It is football's a war, basketball's a war.
Right.

Speaker 4 I read that some celebrities would get upset with you when you would make fun of them or use them in your sketches.

Speaker 4 Did they ever approach you? I saw Mike Tyson, Whitney Houston, MC Hamburg. Did they ever come to you? You say, bro, come on now.
Yeah, Mike Tyson rolled up on me in a jewelry store.

Speaker 4 You talking about scare?

Speaker 4 I wanted to show my foot. I got club foot, Mike.
Please, Mike.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it was like he was playing, but he's so strong.

Speaker 4 He grabbed me and he bit me on my neck.

Speaker 4 So that was a famous

Speaker 4 Evander. And I just felt, I still remember his hot, I could feel his hot.

Speaker 4 I was like, ooh,

Speaker 4 but he was playing. Right.
Right? But Mike, here's the interesting thing. Mike Tyson loves my family.
And it's not because of me. He was at some event with my mother,

Speaker 4 and my mother sat and said, introduced herself to him, and she said, I'm the, you know, Mrs. Waynes.
He said, oh, your kids, they make,

Speaker 4 I don't like, they mockerize me.

Speaker 4 They're always making jokes. And my mother said, oh, shut up.

Speaker 4 If they didn't love you, they wouldn't do you. Wow.
And Mike Tyson was like, I fell in love with your family right there.

Speaker 4 If anything ever happened with you and your family,

Speaker 4 I'm going to eat through people.

Speaker 4 But he just, I guess that's, it felt like a mother to him.

Speaker 4 You know, she just, he said, I could have knocked your mom out.

Speaker 4 But she just, she reprimanded me. It was like, beautiful.
Because he did want to beat Keenan up.

Speaker 4 And Eddie was trying to instigate it. He's going to kick his door down and beat him up.
This concludes the first half of my conversation.

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