Nightcap - Hour 1: Mike Tomlin sounds like a politician; Tyreek unhappy, Brock Purdy can't see some of his targets

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Speaker 4 Mike Thomas spoke by Aaron Rodgers today. Boche, let's take a listen to what Mike T had to say.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 He's a free agent. As you guys know, he came to visit last Friday.
We had a really productive day.

Speaker 4 He's been in this thing a long time.

Speaker 4 I've been in this thing a long time, but it's no substitute for, you know, intimacy and spending time together and getting to know one another in a non-competitive environment.

Speaker 4 And so that was really good.

Speaker 4 For now, I don't have any new updates in terms of where the process is. We'll see where it leads us to.
No, it certainly isn't, or is it not that's what we said with this situation?

Speaker 4 I'm really comfortable with being unsettled this time of year, to be quite honest with you.

Speaker 4 It's about talent acquisition. We got two means of main means of acquiring talent, free agency in the draft.
We multitask, we do both.

Speaker 4 Those needs that we fulfill in free agency.

Speaker 4 We do so there. And what we don't, we fulfill it in the draft.

Speaker 4 And so I've just learned over the years that this time of year, although, you know, day-to-day can be somewhat uncomfortable, it is a process.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 sound like a politician, don't he? You see how he's sweating?

Speaker 4 He's like, we ain't got no quarterback.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Everything he said, it sounds good. It sounds beautiful.
But in order to compete in this league,

Speaker 4 regardless of what team you are, it's 32 of them. You need a quarterback.
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 There's a reason why they make and command the salary that they do.

Speaker 4 There's nothing you can do without a quarterback. And ever since Ben Rothensberger has been gone,

Speaker 4 even on the tail end of his career, where things weren't

Speaker 4 really that good. Good at being down the vine.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they were signed that there was slippage and they didn't want to see it.

Speaker 4 Right. Well, no, I don't, I think they saw it, but they didn't want to upset him.
Similar to how they upset Aaron Rodgers, similar to how they upset Brett Falls. Guess what?

Speaker 4 They didn't want to do that. In the process of upsetting him, guess what you had? You had another 10 years or 12 years of prosperity, being able to be competitive.
Right.

Speaker 4 The same thing with Aaron Rodgers. You got Jordan Love and then boom.

Speaker 4 And you be competitive. You've got to, you've got to, especially when you see the slippage.
Now, I don't agree with what Coach Belichick did with Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 That's a totally different incident because Tom Brady was still going to Super Bowl. They were still playing in the ALC Championship.

Speaker 4 Right. But in this situation,

Speaker 4 it's totally different. And Mike Thomas says he's comfortable with Mason Rudolph being the team's starting quarterback next season.
That's why we brought him back. I'm comfortable with that.

Speaker 4 We've been there before. He's very capable.

Speaker 4 If you,

Speaker 4 think about what he said. What did he say, Ocho? We brought him back.
Why the hell you let him go?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know, listen, it's a head coach. You got to say all the right things.
You have to say all the right things. Remember, I just, we just talked about it.

Speaker 4 You got to have people tell you the truth. Now, this man, hold on.

Speaker 4 With the chat,

Speaker 4 what did Ocho say last night?

Speaker 4 You ain't even letting me.

Speaker 4 I was just getting ready to give you the example. What Mr.
Hadlam just said in telling the truth, saying that we missed.

Speaker 4 And now we got the, on the, on the next hand, we got Mike Tomlin giving us a lie. Don't tell me the beautiful lie.
Tell me the truth. We don't have a quarterback right now.
We don't.

Speaker 4 I should be unsettled. You shouldn't be comfortable right now

Speaker 4 because you haven't had a quarterback in a while. And in order to compete in the AFC North

Speaker 4 and to get back to the historic run that the Steelers are known for, winning championships, you need a goddamn quarterback.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 4 You know, that's why I say you sound like a politician. What do politicians do most? The best.
What are they best at?

Speaker 4 Lying to the people,

Speaker 4 getting you to believe in what they're saying, knowing it's not the truth.

Speaker 4 And I'm a fan of the Steelers because I love them. The Steelers fans love me and I love the playoffs.
But you need a quarterback in order to compete.

Speaker 4 That's it.

Speaker 4 Man, he sweat. Mike Thompson would sweat like somebody on the Maury Povey show.

Speaker 4 You are the father. Scott by the dog.

Speaker 4 Look,

Speaker 4 I get it.

Speaker 4 But if Mason Rudolph was the guy, they would have never let him left the building. Name a quarterback that they

Speaker 4 leave the building.

Speaker 4 And he's supposed to be the guy he's capable. Why? I mean, where they do that at, Ocho.

Speaker 4 hey you know what this tells you do you know what this tells you this tells you how hard it is to come by good quarterbacks good

Speaker 4 so let me so good wait wreck gross red grossman got the bears to the super bowl yeah we just need somebody good yeah you i don't think you can do that now turn the buffer over and make the play just defensively they're gonna make you they'll make the uh i i don't think not we talk about the steelers we talk about the steelers huh yeah who what is the identity for the steelers they're what defense

Speaker 4 i'm not saying they the steel goddamn curtain but they're known for their defense if you don't have a quarterback in order for you to compete week in and week out your defense has to play up the park but i'm just trying to ain't no quarterback off in that room right now that's gonna change the franchise ain't no joe burrow ain't no lamar jackson you have a 41 42 year old aaron rodgers that might be your quarterback And you don't know what you're going to get from him week to week.

Speaker 4 You don't even know if he's going to show up the mini count.

Speaker 4 He said good quarterbacks. What good quarterbacks do you know teams let walk out?

Speaker 4 I mean, you let Russ lead the building. You let Justin Fields lead the building for Mason Rudah?

Speaker 4 Justin Fields, Russ are no longer there.

Speaker 4 And you said the best option for the Steelers moving forward was Mason Rudah?

Speaker 4 Absolutely not. That's why I say he lied like a politician.
He lied like the the president. They promise you everything.

Speaker 4 And when it's time to show up and get it done, it's crickets. Now you're putting all that pressure on Mason Rudolph and Aaron Rodgers doesn't come.

Speaker 4 Oh, you stuck.

Speaker 4 Not only are you stuck, now you put the onus on Mason Rudolph to back up everything you said.

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 4 ain't nobody holding bike tumbling to that because everybody done saw we done saw a large enough sample size for Mason Rudolph. We know what he is.

Speaker 4 We know what he is. All of a sudden, he ain't finna turn into no, no, he ain't finna have no season like

Speaker 4 anybody. I shouldn't say he's not

Speaker 4 because hell, nobody thought Sam Darnold was gonna have the season that he had.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 who didn't,

Speaker 4 man, the Pope, man, listen. I'm listening.
The Pope,

Speaker 4 rest his soul, could have been the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings and did what Sam Donald did last year with Jordan Addison and Hawkinson and goddamn Justin. Yeah, I would have said that

Speaker 4 had I not seen Sam Donald.

Speaker 4 Had I not seen Sam Darnold, I might have believed you.

Speaker 4 Oh, we talked about seriously.

Speaker 4 I tell you what, quarterback is only good as a supporting cat.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 It takes a village. And when the village is good,

Speaker 4 it can hide a lot of your weaknesses.

Speaker 4 True.

Speaker 4 But guess what? Last two games of the season, he reverted back to those same guys to throw to.

Speaker 4 How you look.

Speaker 4 Expectations change.

Speaker 4 Yo, Cho, when you ain't got no expectations,

Speaker 4 it's kind of like, hey, you start seeing this girl, she starts seeing this guy, and y'all ain't got no expectations. You doing you, you do it, she doing her.

Speaker 4 Now all of a sudden, y'all come together, and now you have expectations. Oh,

Speaker 4 where you being?

Speaker 4 See, if you ain't got no expectations, don't nobody ask where you've been. You call it, oh, it is what it is.
Hey, yeah,

Speaker 4 hey,

Speaker 4 we call it complications.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying,

Speaker 4 I'm one of them guys, you know, love is like a declare. Once it goes cold, it can't be reheated.

Speaker 4 Man, wait a minute,

Speaker 4 Well, you think you sneak, bro.

Speaker 4 Go ahead and get that to me again.

Speaker 4 I'm going to use Hotel Penny Bill. You know what it is.
Love is like in the clear. Once it goes cold, it can't be reheated.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 4 Hey, I got it. Here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 4 See, if it's like this here, I mean, even like this, some can sleep in through that crack. But just imagine.

Speaker 4 And the separation

Speaker 4 gets further and further. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying, Ocho. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 Listen, you got to say, I done had it. You know, we take a break.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm not responsible for whatever happens on this break.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir. That's why.
That's why I don't take breaks. Man, don't you have one? I was like, hold on.

Speaker 4 Took a break. You know, I do it.
You doing you? Right.

Speaker 4 Talk to me now.

Speaker 4 She got mad because I was seeing. I was like, hold on, we're not together, but I thought you was going.
Right.

Speaker 4 So you thought I was going to wait while you do your.

Speaker 4 Wait, wait, wait, what? Wait, who?

Speaker 4 Shit. Hey, wait.
Back a

Speaker 4 tax thing.

Speaker 4 I was flagging them down. I ain't wait on nothing.
Hey, I call Uber. I call Uber and catch a ride.
That's how quick I was trying to get to where I was going on your.

Speaker 4 You ain't faster than me.

Speaker 4 Huh?

Speaker 4 Wait for, wait for who? Wait for what?

Speaker 4 You know how long we've been in the game, huh? I'm out the game.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'm out the game.

Speaker 4 I'm out with you. I don't know what you're waiting for.

Speaker 4 You laughing.

Speaker 4 I ain't got time to play. What did I tell you about that mountain? 20s, wasted them.
30s, wasted them. 40s, wait.
Oh, boy, I'm about to go on the other side of the mountain. You think I'm finna play?

Speaker 4 Well, what I told you about choosing who choose you. Are you right about that now?

Speaker 4 Come on now. I ain't got time to play.
What did I tell you? 2026, I'm going to be what? Married,

Speaker 4 man. You'll be, and you'll be a fool if you think I'm not.
You see what happened to everybody else that has gotten married?

Speaker 4 Do you see the blessings that have been bestowed upon these individuals that are getting married? Well, how about you don't

Speaker 4 do that then?

Speaker 4 Wait, you man. I see what happened to uh, I see what happened to LeBron and Kobe.
Rest here, flow, he got mad, Jordan got mad, Josh.

Speaker 4 All right, and let me go to uh uh, what's the dating sites? What's some dating sites?

Speaker 4 Nah, you don't need no dating sites.

Speaker 4 You don't need no dating sites. You see?

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 you see,

Speaker 4 I done put my band back on. I'm practicing.
Oh, you practicing?

Speaker 4 I'm practicing. I'm practicing.
I'm practicing. I think I'm

Speaker 4 thinking about

Speaker 4 popping the question maybe about

Speaker 4 maybe in the summertime, in the summertime.

Speaker 4 The only question I'm asking is, hey,

Speaker 4 how much y'all paying me? And that's the only question I'm asking. I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 Hold on. I

Speaker 4 wait.

Speaker 4 Who gonna pay you? I don't know. I'm gonna give me a job.
Hell, I gotta get some jobs like you.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, I got 50 levels.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. Tyreek Hill and Miami Dolphins seemingly patched things up after a rough ending to the season.
But he posted some cryptic emojis in response to trade speculation.

Speaker 4 Reek posted a handful of cryptic posts responding to trade speculation.

Speaker 4 Peace sign.

Speaker 4 Why doesn't he just officially ask for trade? You think Tyreek is happy in Miami? I mean,

Speaker 4 I would think so.

Speaker 4 I was happy with the weather.

Speaker 4 I think he's happy with no taxes. I don't think he's happy with his quarterback situation.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Punk, man. That's a tough one.
That's a tough one. Because didn't Tyreek just

Speaker 4 lead the NFL? What? Not just what? Two years ago?

Speaker 4 Before he led the league of receiver. Yeah, with the same quarterback, right? Yes.
Same quarterback. So it shouldn't be any issues.
It shouldn't be in the issues.

Speaker 4 And what's been the issue with the quarterback? Oh, he's been injured.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 I see what you're saying.

Speaker 4 That's tough. That's tough.
I'm not sure how Tyreek is feeling. I've talked to him on numerous occasions, but I like to stay away from stuff like that, especially seeing dudes, you know,

Speaker 4 in the offseason.

Speaker 4 I know they don't want to talk about no football. They got to do that

Speaker 4 all the goddamn time. So

Speaker 4 i think for me the situation is good um

Speaker 4 i would love to be in miami i would love to be in miami and hope and and hope that tua can stay upright you know this upcoming year he can stay healthy and we we we know it we know what he can we know what tua can do with tyreek and waddle if he's upright and healthy and that that's been that's been the main issue It's hard, Ojo, when the quarterback is injured frequently and getting timing with with a quarterback you got one week so i got three weeks with tire i got three weeks with

Speaker 4 with tua then i got a week maybe two weeks with another guy then i got seven weeks with tua then i got another two three weeks oh it's hard

Speaker 4 you know it's hard to build chemistry

Speaker 4 with you know think about what it took for you to get on the same page with carson cars yeah

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Speaker 4 We knew what to do.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And that came from years and years

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Speaker 4 I'm going to throw it. But I, because I know he's about to break.
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Speaker 4 You already, oh, I'm getting this one. I don't care what was called.
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Speaker 4 I'm getting this ball. Oh, he's throwing it.

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Speaker 4 During an appearance on Build for More podcasts, Brock Purdy said he thought fatigue played a big role in the 49ers drop to 6 and 11 last season. Last year, man, guys were tired.

Speaker 4 That season is no joke.

Speaker 4 And when you go from July to training camp and everything and all the way to the end of february and then you really get five weeks off so until you've got the report back and then you're going to go you're doing going at it again guys are tired they're still beat up their bodies

Speaker 4 is that a valid excuse or joe now they weren't tired

Speaker 4 that wasn't they weren't tired what i but i i i can't well

Speaker 4 i can tell you why their record was what it was because of injuries.

Speaker 4 I can tell you that. That's why it looked the way it did last year it had nothing to do with being tired well chiefs here be exhausted

Speaker 4 i don't even know how to chief i don't even know how the chief holding up hey

Speaker 4 because they've been in the they've been in five super bowls in the last six years yeah they've gone to the amc championship game every year every year so if y'all are tired so

Speaker 4 that yeah i don't even know how to i don't know how the chiefs i don't even know how the chiefs holding up ojo i don't

Speaker 4 honestly i don't i mean this is i i understand what brock is saying but but no.

Speaker 4 Everybody's tired at that point, especially depending on how far you make it into the postseason. Everybody's tired.

Speaker 4 Everybody's injured.

Speaker 4 I don't like.

Speaker 4 Ocho, let's just say for the sake of argument, me and you, you and I, we're arguing. Uh-huh.
Why would you even say that?

Speaker 4 Do guys understand how that when they say things that seems like you're making excuses, do they understand how people look at it? Like you're making excuses, right?

Speaker 4 But also, see, this is what I talked about too, also.

Speaker 4 You want players telling the truth now. Remember, I said that? Yeah, I wish players would be more honest on how they truly feel instead of always being goddamn politically correct.

Speaker 4 Now we're getting players that are telling the truth on how they truly feel, and we're chastising them for it. For now, I don't want robots.
I don't want players telling them.

Speaker 4 So, you like McMillan said that he don't like watching film and he doesn't study. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know.
That's what you just said. You said you want players telling the truth.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I said. I can't have it both ways.

Speaker 4 You just said you like players telling the truth. Macmillan told the truth.
He doesn't like studying film. He doesn't watch film alone because he watched it as a group at practice.
Right.

Speaker 4 So you okay with that? No, I'm not. Why not? He told the truth.

Speaker 4 You asked me a question.

Speaker 4 I answered the question. I want people to be a little bit more honest sometimes.
Okay, he was honest, but you're not okay with that honesty. I ain't like that honesty.
No, I ain't like that one.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord. And

Speaker 4 you got to pick and choose what you say, now.

Speaker 4 That's my poacho. You just made my point.
Pick and choose in this situation.

Speaker 4 Why would you make an excuse? Hey, it didn't work.

Speaker 4 We didn't play our best football. That's on me.
I've got to play better. Guys around me got to play better.

Speaker 4 So even when guys get injured, we lost some key players, but guys that come in, we're plenty good enough with the guys that we had to replace.

Speaker 4 Even if you don't believe that, because there ain't no making up for Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 You ain't got nobody. That guy's an offensive player of the year.
Yeah. He was in the MVP discussion.
See? Hey, big trick.

Speaker 4 But hey, guys have to come in and do their job when the starters go down. That's why you're in that position.

Speaker 4 Bro, don't give me that. We were tired.
What the hell do you think Kansas City was? Kansas City had gone.

Speaker 4 they went back to back super bowls and went to the third super bowl so they should have been exhausted

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 and remember oh joe the year before they went to the championship game and the year before that they went to the super bowl

Speaker 4 hey you know what though man

Speaker 4 that I don't know just everybody everybody sound like some damn robots

Speaker 4 everybody would sound like some robots. I mean, that's basically what the NFL sounds like in general.
You listen to quarterbacks talk. You listen to certain players talk.
Everything is the same.

Speaker 4 It's the same thing. Same story, same answer,

Speaker 4 same everything.

Speaker 4 So you like the excuse maker? No, I didn't know. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying. What was that? So tell me what that was.
Oh, that was the excuse about being tired. Oh, yeah.
I don't get tired.

Speaker 4 I don't want it. Listen.

Speaker 4 No, that's what he said. So you okay with the excuse maker? No, that's that's how he felt.

Speaker 4 I admit, listen, damn, he's telling the truth on how you feel. Okay, I felt we went 6-11 or whatever it may have been because we were tired.

Speaker 4 Well, to me, based on what I saw, it had nothing to do with being tired. I saw half your goddamn team depleted.

Speaker 4 Ayup

Speaker 4 out.

Speaker 4 Trim Williams out.

Speaker 4 Christian McCaffrey out. Okay, there you go.
Three goddamn stars out. That's why you had 6-11.
I can tell you that.

Speaker 4 I don't

Speaker 4 I just don't get these guys man

Speaker 4 everything everything

Speaker 4 shouldn't you don't you don't have to say everything

Speaker 4 yeah hey sometimes you got to be real man

Speaker 4 oh my goodness hey Brock say boy we was we was tired

Speaker 4 oh

Speaker 4 man I used to hey listen I remember I used to go to to school, man. You want to know what tired is, huh?

Speaker 4 I used to walk 12 miles uphill both ways to go to school. Now I was tired.

Speaker 4 Tell me about he was tired, man.

Speaker 4 Well, football is recreation. That's fun.

Speaker 4 Man, I just look,

Speaker 4 there are ways that you can say things

Speaker 4 and to get your point across.

Speaker 4 But these guys now. But I look, see,

Speaker 4 I can tell the people that's in the chat, Ocho, that's never been a part of a team

Speaker 4 because they want to say anything because they don't care.

Speaker 4 Because at the end of the day, when you're a part of a team, you just can't say anything.

Speaker 4 You just can't do anything because it's for the betterment of the team. When you're an individual, now Serena Williams want to say she was tired.
Okay, that's Serena.

Speaker 4 She ain't got nobody to fill in for. Tiger Woods wanted to say he was tired.
Well, that's fine. But when you are part of a team, you understand.
Right.

Speaker 4 And a lot of times, people have never been a part of a team or part of a winning team. There's a difference between the two.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Go back and study my track record.

Speaker 4 Talk to him, huh?

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 4 Curve Asian dollar. I know that's why I'm single.
I'm okay with being single. Wait, what? It seemed like you're not okay with being single.
Hold on. What was that name?

Speaker 4 Hold on. It seemed like, Elcho, you know what it seemed like? It seemed like everybody got a problem with me being single, but me.

Speaker 4 Who said I was single?

Speaker 4 You got you somebody?

Speaker 4 I don't remember saying anything. Hold on.

Speaker 4 You got you somebody and ain't tell nobody?

Speaker 4 I've never told anybody anything. I don't say yay or nay.
Okay. I just let people talk.
Oh, let me

Speaker 4 get better that way. Because I like what people, I like when people say, well, I thought this was this.
Okay. Right.
Man, I ain't know you.

Speaker 4 I didn't know I was supposed to make an announcement.

Speaker 4 I just try to figure out. So

Speaker 4 what I supposed to tell people making an announcement. I would, I listen, I've been trying to hook you up with somebody for damn near three years now.
And I've been blouse. I ain't got no flat tower.

Speaker 4 Why are you trying to hook me up? You a trope trunk?

Speaker 4 Hey, boy, hey, hey, you saw what I, what I, what I sent you earlier today? I saw that. Man, boy, listen.
You know, I don't go nowhere, but I told you 220, I told you 2025, I'm not playing.

Speaker 4 I'm going out. I'm stepping out.
You need to get back.

Speaker 4 You need to get back. You need to get your ass back inside.
Why, what happened?

Speaker 4 You just need to be inside. No, we still got how many more months we got before 2025 is up? Nine.

Speaker 4 So we got nine more months of me being outside and nine more months of me putting on clothes. But listen, let me finish, though.
Go ahead. I went out.
I went out. I went out Saturday.

Speaker 4 I went to a little place, a nice little lounge. You know, I don't really go nowhere, so I'm excited.
I'm like a little kid, a little

Speaker 4 lounge was in Brow called

Speaker 4 Seisha.

Speaker 4 They were very nice. You know, they play some good music.
Good, good oldies, too. Good oldies, 80s, 90s.
I like that. Hey, they played Men Condition.

Speaker 4 I ain't heard the song from Men Condition since 1994. Please tell you, please tell me, we remember the song So Fine.

Speaker 4 So Fine. Yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 4 hey, I was so rude. I told the DJ I had him running back three times, huh? Damn.

Speaker 4 I swear,

Speaker 4 I had him running back three times. I ain't heard it in so long, and it sounded so good.
Then the day,

Speaker 4 the day I went to something

Speaker 4 in Brower called BB Sundays.

Speaker 4 They was in there cutting up. You hear me? Were they? Yeah, oh, yeah.
They was in there. They cutting up.
Guest appearance. Huh? You need me to come down there and make a guest appearance.

Speaker 4 Man, they told me to man they

Speaker 4 so they told me to ask you slim cat i know you're gonna see this on he told me man tell unc come on down here because what i sent you it's like all over this should look just like that

Speaker 4 oh i'm trying to be good old i'm just trying to i'm trying to look

Speaker 4 Hey, you gotta let you gotta come to Miami. Let the people in Miami see you.
Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 4 You ain't gotta.

Speaker 4 Come on. Hey,

Speaker 4 I can take it to Tussie's. You hear me? No.

Speaker 4 I don't want to go no place like that. Wait,

Speaker 4 let me take you to Booby Trap.

Speaker 4 Are you going to cut it by a booby trap? No, you're going to cut it to the booty trap. No, booby trap.
Booty. Yeah, that's where you get it from.
You go to booby trap, you get the booty. Nah, nah.

Speaker 4 I'm done with you, man.

Speaker 4 Man.

Speaker 4 The Jess G.

Speaker 4 We believe Justin is the starter. We believe in Justin.
We believe we can win with Justin. We're excited about Justin's potential.

Speaker 4 Fields, 26, will follow Aaron Rodgers, who went 6-12 in two years as the starter. Fields went 4-2 in his six starts last season, throwing five touchdowns with an interception.

Speaker 4 The Jets signed Fields to a two-year deal, hoping he

Speaker 4 can prove their long-term starter.

Speaker 4 Do you like what the Jim? You like the Jim showing confidence? I love that he came out and said this.

Speaker 4 Justin has done. He's had to deal with enough.
He had to deal with enough when he was in Chicago.

Speaker 4 Them letting him go, not believing in him, him going to the Steelers, him getting the job because Russell got injured.

Speaker 4 Then when Russell gets back,

Speaker 4 the job is taken away from him. So they have to hear the GM

Speaker 4 over the Jets say, you are our starter.

Speaker 4 And now you have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder so you can just go play football.
Agree. The main thing is the main thing now.

Speaker 4 The ball is in your court. You have a chance to solidify yourself as a starting quarterback for the New York Jets based on your play.

Speaker 4 And if it doesn't work out the way it should, it's nobody else's fault except your own. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't know who the OC is, Ocho.

Speaker 4 I think the thing is people looking at the Jets, like, look at the team, look at the players that have left the Jets and the success they've had. Look at Geno.
Look at Sam Darnold.

Speaker 4 Now, the difference is, look at what Geno was throwing to in Seattle. Right.
Look at what Sam Darnold was throwing to.

Speaker 4 Now, are y'all going to give him, are y'all going to give Justin Fields those type of weapons?

Speaker 4 I mean, they need one more if they want to add one because you already have one in Garrett Wilson, who was able to win. He had a hell of a hell of a goddamn rookie season.

Speaker 4 And things kind of tapered off after that.

Speaker 4 But we know what he can do if you're able to give him the ball and you put him in positions to make some of the plays that other players are getting the opportunities to make around the league.

Speaker 4 You know what you can do with that? So we had the draft coming up.

Speaker 4 I mean, I think all offseason acquisitions or moves have been made to date so far.

Speaker 4 Brock Purdy says he's about 40% of the time he's not able to see his intended target on throws downfield due to the size of the alignment in front of him.

Speaker 4 He talked about how important it is knowing coverage scheme and knowing where his receivers are supposed to be. How common is this? Is this typical for quarterbacks who aren't very tall? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 All the time.

Speaker 4 Huh? All the time. Drew Brees.

Speaker 4 Baker Mason. Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 You have to throw between the linemen. You have to try to throw.
That's why they call it throwing lanes. Yeah.
And

Speaker 4 you have to anticipate as well. Yes.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's been, remember, Doug Fluty. Yeah, when Doug Fluty played.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Well, I'll turn it. What you think? What do you think Kyler Murray sees?

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 4 what? That's, I couldn't, I couldn't think of it. Kyler Murray.
Hell, half the time, he probably looking at his line with ass.

Speaker 4 Who else is short, huh? Who else? I know. Everybody.

Speaker 4 Kyler

Speaker 4 Drew was short. Baker Mayfield is short.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson. Yeah, I said Russ.

Speaker 4 Trying to think who else. Tua.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Two is not

Speaker 4 that tall.

Speaker 4 Bryce Young?

Speaker 4 Okay, Bryce. Bryce is short.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 Bryce is in that boat, too.

Speaker 4 But you know what, Ocho? I'd have said that after I got 50 million. Yeah, I wouldn't have said it before.

Speaker 4 I ain't paying nothing. But anyway, listen, the fact that he did say it, he's still in a good position anyway, because he's already put in the small sample size of worth.

Speaker 4 Well, he's going to get his money anyway, regardless. But the fact that you've been able to do what you've done,

Speaker 4 even though you couldn't see 40% of the time,

Speaker 4 I mean, it can work in your favor too.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, look,

Speaker 4 Mike Vick wasn't the tallest. Johnny Mamzell wasn't tall.
No, not at all. Not at all.

Speaker 4 How tall is Hurts? It's not like Hurts 6'5.

Speaker 4 Wait, he's probably the average height, probably 6'1.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Jaden got, Jaden got a little height.

Speaker 4 How tall is that, Jaden Daniels?

Speaker 4 Jaden tall. You about 6'3?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but Ocho, but he's 6'1. His offensive line is 6'6.
Yeah. Who can see it over?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're right. But you know, once you drop back, everybody's gonna beat Josh Allen.
Yeah. Everybody's gonna beat.

Speaker 4 You gotta think, also, in today's game, especially for the offense that

Speaker 4 we're seeing now, most of the time, quarterbacks in the gun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 Most of the time, quarterback's in the gun. So you're already at an advantage if you are a short quarterback anyway.

Speaker 4 Then that all comes down to you processing and having anticipatory skills and and when to get the ball out and hoping your receivers get open.

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Speaker 4 Russell Wilson is coming to the Giants with the expectation that he'll be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 In his presser, Ocho, he said, yeah, I expect to be the start to come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day. I think this team is really looking for somebody to lead them every way.

Speaker 4 Is this a match made in heaven for the Giants, Ocho? I mean, listen to me.

Speaker 4 Remember now, Ocho, before you go,

Speaker 4 they signed. They gave Jameis two years, $8 million.
Russ basically is a one-year deal for $10 and a half million. That's guaranteed.
He can make up to $21 million, but he got to win like, what?

Speaker 4 He gets X amount of dollars per win or something like that.

Speaker 4 But anyway, do you see them taking a quarterback

Speaker 4 with the third? Yeah. I think the third pick, the third one, where

Speaker 4 listen,

Speaker 4 listen,

Speaker 4 I don't care if they had 30. Third.
Go ahead, Oto. Listen,

Speaker 4 I don't care if they had 37 quarterbacks

Speaker 4 on their roster right now. They taking a quarterback come draft time because there's still no quarterback of the future.

Speaker 4 Now, whoever they draft at quarterback, they have somebody they can learn from and learn behind

Speaker 4 for a year before they're put into that offense. And depending on how the play from whoever started, whether it's DeVito, whether it's James Winston, whether it was Wusse Wilson.
Man, David, stop.

Speaker 4 DeVito ain't starting. You know damn well DeVito ain't starting.
Stop with that.

Speaker 4 I'm just calling the names of the people on the roster, baby. Let me, let me, let me, let me get my point across.

Speaker 4 But either way, it could be, yeah, it could be, it could be Shador, it could be Cam Ward. They might even surprise us and pick somebody else.
You never know. You know how the draft works.
Right.

Speaker 4 Sometimes when it comes to their decision making. But either way, I think Russell Wilson is probably going to be the starter.

Speaker 4 Everywhere he goes, he's the ultimate, not only competitor, but but his approach to the game and willingness to learn the offense and then, you know, obviously be a team player and all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 He says all the right stuff.

Speaker 4 So there's a reason why the Giants wanted to extend that grace to him, allow him another year. And I'm excited.

Speaker 4 I mean, Russell Wilson, Malik Neighbors, they still need to do something with the effing offensive line. Yeah.

Speaker 4 and get another no disrespect to brother brother slayt very nice receiver you got malik neighbors but you still need another playmaker the giant

Speaker 4 didn't they bring slayton back isn't he back yeah he back that's what i just said they still need another playmaker they they just play slay but they still need another playmaker outside of them you know to go to go with the go with malik neighbors and then it's slaying that offensive line boy it's abysmal

Speaker 4 it's abysmal because so you you're gonna have you're gonna have russell running for his life

Speaker 4 outside of that there there's so many things they need to address offensively to actually to actually be competitive week in and week out,

Speaker 4 especially with

Speaker 4 you're bringing in a quarterback. You definitely drafted a quarterback.

Speaker 4 I don't know who it's going to be, whether it be Shador, whether it be Cam Ward, or maybe surprises to pick somebody else you might like that you've seen.

Speaker 4 But the other issues that need to be fixed,

Speaker 4 and I and to me, I will start with that offensive line. If I told you five years ago, this would

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson's career. Would you have believed it?

Speaker 4 Bouncing around like this, Ocho?

Speaker 4 You wouldn't have. No, no, probably not.

Speaker 4 Probably not. Because even

Speaker 4 me,

Speaker 4 as a lover and

Speaker 4 enthusiast of the game and understanding of it,

Speaker 4 the trajectory in which he was going was always, to me, he was viewed as the top, the cream of the top,

Speaker 4 one of the elites.

Speaker 4 because it was consistent year in and year out, year in and year out. He was consistent.
He was in a place of comfortability where he knew a system,

Speaker 4 and you just go in there and do what you need to do year in and year out.

Speaker 4 Now, on the back end, things change. I wish Pete Carroll hadn't made that call.
You already know what I'm talking about. Yeah.
And you would have had two rings under your belt.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 but I think, man, Seattle saw something.

Speaker 4 They saw slippage, Jojo.

Speaker 4 Okay. Ocho has been on his third team in 33 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now ain't no way around it. Ain't no, let's not sugarcoat it.
He's his third team in three years.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 It's tough

Speaker 4 because you know, you had you learned the Broncos system, you were there for two years, you go to Pittsburgh, you learn that system.

Speaker 4 It's harder and harder to keep. I mean, you think about it, it gets harder and harder to learn a system, yeah,

Speaker 4 even though it's because look at Baker. Once he got to what, look, okay, he went to Carolina, he was in the Rams.
Well, we everybody knew he wasn't going to stay very long with the Rams, right?

Speaker 4 Except the fact they had Matthew Stafford, but look at him now, he's thriving.

Speaker 4 But he got

Speaker 4 great complimentary players around him he got mike evans he got chris godwin he got uh a nice running back they did a great job bucket irving uh they did a great job in the draft with the running back position right mike missed uh mike evans has missed the consistency um chris godwin went down but hey he's back

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 that's why i think you're supporting cast matters huh that's why i say it all the time Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 4 listen for a quarterback, for a quarterback that may be on the decline, where he's not the same as he once was,

Speaker 4 If you're a quarterback and you're not in a position and you need those players around you to make you better, when you're not the caliber player anymore to make them actually better, you have to be in the right system.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The right supporting cast, and everything will take off.

Speaker 4 It's hard to hide your weaknesses when those around you ain't that good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very hard to hide your weaknesses. Yeah, because I'm going to make you play to it.
Yep.

Speaker 4 Hey.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but man. That's what makes the Eagles so difficult.
Yeah. Because if you take Saquon away, you got two guys outside that can make you pay.
You got to deal with, yeah.

Speaker 4 So now, what do they do? It's like, we just go play zone because you can't run the football. With what you got behind you, Patrick Mahomes, you can't run the football.
Right.

Speaker 4 So now they say, you know what? Hey.

Speaker 4 Kansas City say, nah, Saquon, we ain't going to let you do. We ain't going to let you run us out the building.
And her says, okay, I'll throw you out the building.

Speaker 4 Whole list.

Speaker 4 That's the thing.

Speaker 4 It's not that complicated. It's really not.

Speaker 4 You try to take away what the strength is. And if somebody beats you, with what this is okay, you just give them credit.

Speaker 4 I mean, if I'm Camp City, you go to the middle of the field and say, hey, man, Jalen, congrats, man. Good game.
You got to live with that. You got to live with it.

Speaker 4 Because if Saquon had run everybody else out of the building,

Speaker 4 he didn't run you out of the building. Jalen Hurst did what he needed to do.

Speaker 4 He didn't throw for 300 yards, but he he was accurate and he made you pay. Every time.
Oh, Joe, the Patriots signed Stephon Diggs three years. Contract worth up to $69 million.

Speaker 4 Diggs is 31 years of age, working his way back from a torn ACL. Mike Rabel is all in on Diggs saying, yeah, just trying to make sure we're supporting Drake and supporting the football team.

Speaker 4 And again, this is a highly competitive company receiver that's produced throughout his career in multiple ways, played in style. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's got to play strength to him, and he sees that he can play physical you know route craft good run after catch and has good in the red zone and there's a play a play style to him that's always appreciated and that's what we want to continue to enhance and make sure that he's doing things to help us

Speaker 4 i like are you surprised that he got that length of deal that kind of deal coming off acl no absolutely not no because no i wasn't surprised because

Speaker 4 They were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude. Even with Stephon Diggs coming off ACL.
I understand. Raybro understands.
Robert Kraft understands. And I tweeted it out.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure if people in the chat can pull up a tweet that I said right before he even got signed. When he went on the visit, I said something to the likes of

Speaker 4 one leg, two legs, no legs at all.

Speaker 4 Make sure he leaves that building with the deal.

Speaker 4 Not only I'm talking about the competitor that he is and the ability for him to be able to get open and manipulate defenses, even if he doesn't have even if he doesn't play on the outside even if he even plays on the inside that's a that's a target that drake may needs that he can be he can be relying on during football season there's enough time from now with him rehabbing because i've already seen some drills with stefan out there working already and i'm seeing how far he's come seeing i thought i saw him squatting but i was surprised i thought somebody would make a prove it deal one year okay okay i see yeah you know one you know what i'm saying don't show one year 15 million dollars with a chance to make 28 25 million right

Speaker 4 but who knows we haven't seen the intricacies of this deal it might be a one-year deal right disguised as a three-year deal right because we saw t higgins deals and basically it's a one-year deal okay yeah so yeah um

Speaker 4 i like it though i like especially oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure uh a veteran receiver uh good to me to me some people would probably won't like it i think a good locker room presence especially for the receivers for drake may

Speaker 4 being able to converse and learn from Diggs

Speaker 4 on some of the things when it comes to the route running and processing information and understanding what he sees and what he may see and how things, you know,

Speaker 4 back to the ATV, Rodney Rogers got paralyzed. You remember Rodney Rogers, the Wake Farrest, great talented player, Denver Nuggets? He got pairs.

Speaker 4 I think he was at Phoenix at the time, but he ended up getting paralyzed on one. He was a hell of a player, Ocho.
Rodney Rogers, left-handed with DeWake Farrell.

Speaker 4 He might have been player of the in the ACC. Look that up, Ash.
He was a Ocho. I'm talking about Kajon.
I mean, he was. I'm talking about, he was built like a football player.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Do you remember Rodney Rogers? Well, he looked Genie Mari. He looked like Larry Johnson, basically.
Oh, he was thinking of he was. Oh, no.
Ocho. I'm talking about grandma.
I'm talking about grandma.

Speaker 4 I taff him. He was that big?

Speaker 4 Yes. He was ACC player of the year, Ocho, with the ACC, when the Carolinas, and they were loaded back then.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 yeah he was uh uh uh

Speaker 4 there's another one guy uh williams the boxer he ended up

Speaker 4 talking about paul paul williams yeah on the motorcycle paul thought

Speaker 4 paul talk about paul throw about 2 000 punches around man paul was big a watch paul he was shoot he was a big ass well to wait oh yeah oh yeah excuse me big big big big hey yeah i like i like this why i just wish i wish you guys like, yeah, you, yeah.

Speaker 4 I just, just, just, guys, just be careful. That's all I'm saying, Ocho, because I don't want to see guys mess up their careers.
Look, have fun. My mindset was just different.

Speaker 4 Once I got that money, I said, you know what? I'm going to make this money as long as I can. Now, once my career is over, because your career is going to be over in the mid-30s anyway.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can hop on a motorcycle or a dirt bike, but I ain't going to mess no money up. Right.
None.

Speaker 4 I ain't going to give nothing. Like you say, you ain't giving none of of it back.
I ain't giving none of it back.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, look, basketball players, baseball players, no matter what happens, that's money guaranteed.

Speaker 4 We ain't got no guaranteed money on your. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 one Soto, 760 million.

Speaker 4 750.

Speaker 4 Gary Roll T.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Shohay, Gary Rote.

Speaker 4 Mookie.

Speaker 4 Hey, everybody don't want to live like that, huh? Man.

Speaker 4 Everybody's not going to have that that mindset. You know, people want to be, well, people want to be free.
People want to enjoy themselves,

Speaker 4 you know, without thinking of the negatives of what could happen or what if this happens.

Speaker 4 They just want to enjoy themselves, especially, you know, at this age, these young, especially in this era we're in now. It's just different.

Speaker 4 There's so many things to do, so many things you can enjoy. You know, but listen, I totally agree with you.
I understand, but

Speaker 4 I'd rather them be safe and free

Speaker 4 or doing things,

Speaker 4 you know, confined in areas that they shouldn't be doing.

Speaker 4 Hey, well, if you feel, if you feel that way,

Speaker 4 like I said, blessed their heart.

Speaker 4 That ain't

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