Nightcap Draft Recap - Part 1: Shedeur Sanders Prank Called + Abdul Carter Responds to Unc & Ocho

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders being prank called during the 2025 NFL Draft and New York Giants DE Abdul Carter responding to Unc & Ocho's comments about Lawrence Taylor rejecting Carter's ask to unretire his number.

01:41 - Who was behind Shedeur Sanders’ draft day prank call
22:19 - Abdul Carter responds to No. 11

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Speaker 2 The prank, the culprit behind the prank called your Jadura Sander has been revealed as Jack Obrick, son of Falcons D.C.

Speaker 2 First, the Falcons put out a statement this morning saying, Earlier in the week, Jack Olbrick, the 21-year-old son of defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick, unintentionally

Speaker 2 came across the draft contact phone number for Shadur Sanders off an output iPad while visiting his parents' home and wrote the number down and later conducted and later conduct a prank call.

Speaker 2 Jeff Olbrick was unaware of the data exposure and any facet of the prank and was made aware of the above only after the fact.

Speaker 2 Atlanta Falcons do not condone this behavior and send our sincere apologies to Shaddur Sanders and his family, who we've been in contact with to apologize to, as well as facilitate an apology directly from Jack to the Sanders family.

Speaker 2 We have also been in contact with the NFL and will continue to cooperate fully with any inquiries we may receive from the NFL league office.

Speaker 2 We are thoroughly reviewing all protocols and updating if necessary to help prevent an incident like this from happening again. Falcons, Falcons, Jack posted an apology on Friday night.

Speaker 2 I made a tremendous mistake. Shadur, what I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing, and shameful.
I'm so sorry. I took away from your moment.

Speaker 10 It was selfish and childish.

Speaker 2 I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your life. And I made a terrible mistake, and I messed with that moment.
Thank you for accepting my call earlier today.

Speaker 2 I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me at Shadur Sanders. Ocho,

Speaker 2 is this apology enough or should the Falcons punish? Well, I don't know who I don't know how they can punish the son. They might punish the dad.

Speaker 2 Should they get Dr. Draft?

Speaker 2 If you were to punish the Falcons, how do you punish them? And

Speaker 2 should they be punished first? And if you are going to punish them, what should the punishment be?

Speaker 10 I mean, listen, I say if you're going to punish them to some extent, I would say it would have to come from the dad. Obviously, it was a son.
It was the son that made the call.

Speaker 10 Obviously, dad, I'm not sure how the son got the number. Who knows? But the punishment

Speaker 10 should come for the dad. Maybe a fine of some sort.
I think draft picks would be a little bit too much because the team itself as a whole shouldn't

Speaker 10 have to suffer for what the sons decide to do.

Speaker 10 Outside of that, the apology, I mean,

Speaker 2 at that point at that point,

Speaker 10 it seems sincere, especially being that it was written from someone else. And

Speaker 10 no, it's just a bunch of you-know-what.

Speaker 10 Um, did he really mean it? No, the fact that he got caught is the only reason he's apologizing, bro.

Speaker 2 How you

Speaker 2 apologize? You can't and you let him record you.

Speaker 10 They're not sorry, they know what they were doing. They're young.
It was a it was a prank. We're in the era up

Speaker 2 and like you say, everybody don't play the same play too much.

Speaker 10 Listen, they thought it was a moment. They thought it was a funny moment when it before you go, Jimmy.

Speaker 2 It really wasn't. Other players also reportedly had prank calls.
Tyler Warren had a prank call.

Speaker 2 There were several other players and you see that like you said ocho we're in that era everything is about a prank everybody want to do a pull something want to touch somebody

Speaker 2 something dump something on their head everybody like gp like you've been saying the whole night everybody don't play how you play

Speaker 2 now when somebody fire you up then when he didn't have to do that well you didn't have to do that Leave people alone, especially people you don't have a relationship with.

Speaker 2 You're going out there in some mall or you walking down the street, you don't know that people from that person from a hill of beans.

Speaker 2 And that's why this social media has messed us up

Speaker 2 about life

Speaker 2 and everything about this crazy stuff. That little kid knew what he was doing because he went at his daddy's phone and got that phone number.
He did that on purpose.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I hate saying punish your dad because your dad is trusting in you as my son. And I'm trusting you that you won't go do stuff.
That's just like almost stealing though, y'all.

Speaker 2 That's almost like stealing.

Speaker 2 It's almost like I'm stealing from your people.

Speaker 2 And your dad has to take the blame for what you have done because I can't punish you because you're not in an Atlantic, Atlanta Falcons

Speaker 2 organization. So I have to punish your daddy because of the situation because it hurts that person who you did it to.

Speaker 2 And these young kids today,

Speaker 2 and I tell you, the situation is different.

Speaker 2 These kids are different. They think that's funny.
And they do that's something to do. At somebody else's expense.
At somebody else's expense. They think this is funny.

Speaker 2 And then when you get caught, like Chad said, that boy ain't sorry. Because if he was sorry, he would have said he did it.
from day one. And he would have been like, man, I did it.
But he got caught.

Speaker 2 And when he got got called, he had to say the right thing to make his daddy be okay and look a little bit better.

Speaker 2 And you look at it.

Speaker 2 Harry explained, Ocho.

Speaker 2 Shadur Sanders' number, phone number wasn't the only one in there, but he was the one that was having a precipitous fall. So now, which prank is going to generate the most buzz?

Speaker 2 Knowing Shador is on eggshells. He's on pins and needles, waiting to have an NFL team call him and say, hey, we're going to select you in the fourth round.

Speaker 2 We're going to select you in the fifth round. So check this out.
He got the number from an iPad that he shouldn't have been using. He waited days because

Speaker 2 it ain't just happened. And then he made the prank call.
He filmed himself while making the prank calls, waited days to make the apology.

Speaker 2 Guys, I'll be looking at it.

Speaker 10 You wanted that viral moment.

Speaker 2 Everything ain't mentioned, like you said.

Speaker 2 And this day and age, Ocho, everything is about clicks, like, mentioned

Speaker 10 and the viral moment.

Speaker 2 That's what it's all about, man. That's why

Speaker 2 that's why I liked my era. We didn't have all that crap.

Speaker 2 No, man, they played like that. Yeah,

Speaker 2 he didn't get out like that. See, I tell Ocho all the time.
We don't get down like that. I came up, I don't remember me and playing no practical jokes on nobody.
Like, boy, you better scrap it up.

Speaker 2 You can't do that because next time we see you, we're gonna knock you out. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't gonna be about, man, okay, man, I'm gonna take this court date, man.

Speaker 2 No, man, I'm going to knock you smooth out.

Speaker 2 Because we ain't talking about all that. Because you messing with my livelihood about all this social media and all that crap, man.
We ain't doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm glad I didn't come up in that area. I'm glad.
I'm glad. Now, look, I would have loved to make the money that these cats make, but GP, I wouldn't want to be in this era.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't want to be in the social media.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't. Hey, I'm going to tell y'all, I don't want to be in the social media area because because I should, I would have been divorced way earlier than what I did.
No,

Speaker 2 I would have been on bad.

Speaker 2 You're stupid.

Speaker 2 I would have been man, I would have been viral all the time. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? But your man, every day, you walk out, man, you're going to man, there's a camera, man, all day, and it's looking that man. Man, I ain't on that, man.
What are what is a like

Speaker 2 to me?

Speaker 2 I don't care about no likes, man. I'm already popular.
You know what I'm saying? I don't care if you give me a million likes. A million people are already looking at me.
So what?

Speaker 2 I don't care about all that, man. You messing up my life, man.
And I'm not dealing with that, though. It's crazy to me that you can sit on the phone

Speaker 2 and watch people do what they do. And they silly.
You just told me, and I ain't surprised. That boy got in that iPad.

Speaker 2 and then filmed himself doing it.

Speaker 2 Stupid is that. How do you think that we ain't going to figure that out?

Speaker 2 Yeah. How do you think we ain't going to get that?

Speaker 2 That's how dudes get caught killing people, burning people, whatever they doing. They, man, they go back.
Doing foolishness, filming it.

Speaker 2 Go back in your phone and you got the pistol showing it and doing this and that and that. That's how they catch you.

Speaker 2 It's just silly. So that's why I tell a lot of kids that I talk to now,

Speaker 2 the social media killing y'all, man. It's hurting y'all, yeah, it's hurting your life, man, because all y'all think about is likes and who's gonna like you on there.

Speaker 2 That's how people get robbed and do stuff. You be a thing, talk about I'm here, I'm there, and then all of a sudden they look in the back.
Oh man, he had Centennial Park.

Speaker 2 Let me ride up on him right now. Let me ride up on that.
That's crazy to me, man, that you do that. That's just silly, that's just silly stuff to me.

Speaker 2 Dang, Shador

Speaker 2 pinned his first um

Speaker 2 both on nfl x and ig accounts if you go to both at nfl and brown's official websites click shop who's the first uh cleveland brown jersey you can pre-order Shadur's.

Speaker 2 Many NFL fans on TikTok have pledged to purchase Shadur's jersey and merchandise exclusively from his official website rather than from the NFL shop to support him after being drafted in the fifth round.

Speaker 2 They believe the league blackballs Shadur. Shador could potentially make millions of dollars from this trend.
And you'll probably see other players, you know, Ocho, you got it. Hey, same.

Speaker 2 I'm proud of you, but you know, Ocho, you'd have had your little cap. You'd have had the Ocho gear going.

Speaker 2 And that's, and that's good. And

Speaker 2 look, that's God. Look, look, both of y'all.
You know, it's daddy. Daddy going to make that up.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Deion did that, man. And that's what they're going to do.
They're going to just show up everybody, what they did to him.

Speaker 2 You know, y'all know that boy shouldn't have got drafted in no fifth round, he shouldn't have been

Speaker 2 no. I got it, I think you go from projected to be number nine, 145.

Speaker 2 That's crazy, yeah. And then the teams that were supposed to draft you

Speaker 2 pass you, and then the team who drafted him had it at the 33rd in the second round,

Speaker 2 and they didn't beat.

Speaker 2 You see, it's got to be a black ball thing. We ain't gonna never know why, what happened or why it happened, but it happened.
But to me,

Speaker 2 I just tell my little young nephew, man, go out there and kill him.

Speaker 2 And then win the job. Get down with him, man.
Be one of them special ones like Marino, like Brett Ford, man.

Speaker 2 Do that, man. They got drafted like that and then become a Hall of Famer and become one of them dudes.
That's all you got to do, man. Forget it.
And then make your bread, man, the way you is.

Speaker 2 Because he popular, man.

Speaker 2 This social media got him popular. He's going to be popular no matter what.

Speaker 2 He's going to be popular. Yeah.
So just do it.

Speaker 10 I think it's a blessing in disguise. Obviously, going in the fifth round and the pick he went is not the blessing I'm talking about.
I'm just saying the situation he's going to, Flacco

Speaker 10 is just there on the one-year deal. Deshaun Watson is not going to be able to play this year.

Speaker 10 So I'm assuming the way I'm thinking and thinking it's going to play out, I think he will be able to beat out Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And And I think he's going to get his shot.

Speaker 10 He's going to get a shot to play. I'm not sure if it's this year, maybe it's next year, but that's somebody going to get a shot.
And I think it's going to be magical for him.

Speaker 10 And seeing it as a blessing in the sky

Speaker 2 finally being

Speaker 2 because look how much pressure they put on Bronny James.

Speaker 2 Bronny James, you'd have thought Bronny James was the first pick in the draft. The way they talk about him talking about, oh, he this, he did.

Speaker 2 He was the 55th pick. They ain't got but five picks left, GP.
They make it seem like they're too small. But because of that last name, you got to understand.

Speaker 2 If his name was shadure jones maybe you're right but we know who his dad is and we know what that dad got aura around his dad but shadow i can't agree with you i gotta agree with with with uh chad on this one go ahead because that's a little bit of different talent my little nephew ronnie wasn't really really ready for that that situation for that that athletic ability ability right he had to throw into that you forgot he missed a whole college oh yeah yeah with that with that hard yeah.

Speaker 2 The hard thing and he, you know, what happened or whatever. But Shakur is ready.
He

Speaker 2 got the talent to do that right now. And if you think of Ronnie right now, Ronnie killing the G League.
He had to get himself into that situation. Right.
Do it.

Speaker 2 Ronnie gonna be good in two, three years. I know.
Shadore is going to be ready now.

Speaker 2 But see, what I was saying, and I was saying because of the names, what I was just saying, because of the names and the expectations, even though he's a fifth-round pick, and Ocho, you know, we don't have no expectations for no fifth-round pick.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 because your ass name is Sanders, just like we got expectations now for the 55th pick, it's just like Jokic. When Jokic got drafted,

Speaker 2 if they are lying, if they told they, well, I knew Yokichi was going to be this. If you knew he was going to be this, you'd have to win the number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 So you a D lie saying you knew Nicola Jokic was going to turn out to be what he was going to be because he was a second round pick. I think he was like 40 something.
Yeah. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 8 I turned off news altogether.

Speaker 13 I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

Speaker 8 It's the rage bait.

Speaker 8 It feels like it's trying to divide people.

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Speaker 2 You so you put pressure. You say it should do it, should do it, should do it.
Here's a fifth round pick. You're going to bypass that and say, well, look at his last name.

Speaker 2 I thought y'all said he was all this. Marley going 50, 50th.
But if he all that, he should be able to do like his daddy.

Speaker 2 i'm gonna have all the picks now we went back to our four fourth round five round two like the nfl then he got picked like that then it's a little different he only got six picks so

Speaker 2 because the simple fact is is the lakers had that pick and if it wasn't for lebron being on the lakers and they make him that pick he probably wouldn't have got drafted which would have been no problem you know what i'm saying but we only got two rounds you know what i'm saying they have the two and half the cigar ride GP don't even make it.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 2 So it's a little different of what we're saying. You know what I'm saying? We don't know if he would have got drafted if the Lakers didn't have that 55th pick.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 But they did pick him,

Speaker 2 which was a blessing because he is talented. He is very, very talented.
And you got to give him a chance.

Speaker 2 Football players got seven rounds. They got to, they gonna do that.
They gonna do that. So we grad, we happy that they do got these type of rounds.

Speaker 2 But if basketball would have had five or six, seven rounds and he got drafted in the fifth or sixth round, we wouldn't be expecting to be nothing. But hold on.
What you said was this, Adam.

Speaker 2 He might not even make the team.

Speaker 2 But here's the thing, GP. Once you start getting Ocho, you could, yeah, you don't know anything about this because you're a second rounder.

Speaker 2 You start getting his sixth, fifth, and sixth, seventh round, you can't bodies. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hey, Ocho, wait, we can't, hey, we need people. Hey, we just need enough to fill the roster.
It ain't no guarantee when you'll start getting them later rounds like that.

Speaker 2 Well, in the NFL, y'all know y'all first three rounds was almost like first round picks with us.

Speaker 2 You want it in the NFL, the first three rounds, you start.

Speaker 2 You start in the NFL. You feel what I'm saying? You basically gonna start in the field if you get paid, you picked in the first three rounds.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 In basketball, if you pick 55, 60, you're in a G League, 10-day contract, or whatever. Yeah, two-way,

Speaker 2 two-way, you're a two-way. Oh, you're gonna be all that, man.
We're gonna give you a deal. Yeah, and and you gotta look at Bronny, he got a heck of a deal.

Speaker 2 Oh, he got the money guaranteed, but he got the first, but he's not the first second rounder to get money guaranteed, though.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, not no, that's right, because people believe in other things, but then you think about it like this, Shannon.

Speaker 2 What if I don't pick you and then pick you up at a 3-8 and then she'll give you some guaranteed money?

Speaker 2 No, I want the guaranteed money right here. You wasn't gonna pick me up and give me that kind of guaranteed money, So I go ahead and take this right here.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 hey, hey.

Speaker 2 Hey, I tell you,

Speaker 2 you hear me? Yeah, what you saying, what y'all?

Speaker 10 I don't think you're seeing it from, you're not seeing it from the same lens I'm seeing it at.

Speaker 2 I'm looking at the situation in this totality, right? Okay, okay, you went fifth round.

Speaker 10 Now, I look at it. I look at the landscape of what they got.
They got Flacco. Flacco not going to be that long.
Deshaun, Deshaun is hurt. He's coming off of Achilles injury.

Speaker 10 I see, I think, no disrespect to Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel. I see him beating them out.
So I see Shadur as a number two quarterback with Flacco playing.

Speaker 10 Now, depending on how Flacco plays throughout the entirety of the season, there's a chance that Shadur, he goes to the helm. I say it's a blessing to the sky.
So, what happens?

Speaker 10 We look at the quarterback, the quarterback Carol Settle quarterbacks that the Browns have had throughout the entirety of their

Speaker 2 last decent quarterback they had.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 a lot of them.

Speaker 10 The last good one that was consistent was Bernie Colear.

Speaker 2 I'm looking with Arlo Graham.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hey, I'm looking long term.
This might be a blessing in the sky,

Speaker 2 despite. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I'm just looking at it like that.

Speaker 10 And knowing him and knowing the competitor that Shadur is, understanding the background and what he's come from, he's able to deal with this adversity. And again,

Speaker 2 hurdle this offer.

Speaker 2 And this situation, listen, this situation for him, AGP, delayed not to. I'm on your side.
I think Shadur is going to be their quarterback for the next six seven years and he be good yeah

Speaker 2 i'm gonna say i'm gonna say that i'm gonna say

Speaker 2 i i can say ten too because i think he's gonna go in there and show out you're gonna go in there and show up and i think he's got a chip on his shoulder now that him and his daddy done talking about it go in there and get out with what you gonna get out with and i'm i'm guaranteed he gonna go in there and i i don't even care about flacco he racco old old i man if you fool around and be moving and doing what you do man and pass that thing get first down whatever them cleveland browns ain't been nothing in a long time anyway if you can get some some people in them stands and getting people hired shannon you just said it

Speaker 2 his jersey is the number one in cleveland right now man yeah what y'all think What y'all think, man? That's going to happen. I think he's going to show up.
And that's what he should do.

Speaker 2 He should go in there and show up. Oh, Joe.
And Abdul Carter responded to us on Twitter this afternoon. I wore number 11.
I have big shoes. I feel big shoes before.

Speaker 2 If you know football, you know who also wore the stick, which means 11. Yeah.
It's not about the number. It's about the player.
The number, just the legacy, it's iconic, something cool.

Speaker 2 Look at the legacy of the stick. I came to Penn State and not only lived up to that number, but I made it even more legendary.
That's how I see it. I shot.
If he says no, cool.

Speaker 2 You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Speaker 2 Yes, sir. But I spoke to LT on the phone yesterday.
She'll do. Dope speaking with the goat.
And know for certain, 56 or not, I'll build my own legacy.

Speaker 2 I think it's saying praise to God or something like that.

Speaker 2 Abdul. Right.

Speaker 2 We said that. I mean, when we had you on the couch, it would appreciate it.
Again, I don't think Ocho and I and Nightcap, the family, thank you enough for coming by.

Speaker 2 I appreciate it. Hey, Bailey, thank you.
Drew, we appreciate that. Bailey, I played with Bailey

Speaker 2 for two years at B-Born. And Drew Rosenhaus, probably his first start, he was down

Speaker 2 at the East Blue Gray game in Montgomery, Alabama, Ocho, in 1989. So

Speaker 2 it goes back. So, Abdul, I want to thank you for coming on.
Ocho, I want to thank you.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Drew Rosenhaus and Bailey, Robert Bailey, for making that happen.

Speaker 2 Yes, we highlighted

Speaker 2 that number was made famous by levar arrington that man was then followed by bicah parsons and then you took it

Speaker 2 as great as those players were wearing that number 11 at penn state i keep you can't even a fathom

Speaker 2 because let me tell you what happened every outside linebacker you see

Speaker 2 is because of lt the von millers the tj watts the derrick thomases the cornelius bennetts all these the lynn floors you name an outside edge rusher He's the only player in NFL history to make two positions famous.

Speaker 2 He made the left tackle famous. He made the right outside linebacker famous.
Two.

Speaker 2 When we talk about who's the greatest cornerback, you get some debates. Some people say Payton.
Some people say Montana. Some people say Brady.
Not going to fight you.

Speaker 2 That's not what we're here to do today. If we say who's the greatest wide receiver, you get some people say Jerry.
Some people say Randy Moss. Some people say T.O.

Speaker 2 If we say who's the best running back, some people say Jim Brown, some people say Walter Payton, Emmett Smith, Barris,

Speaker 2 when you say who is the greatest defensive NFL player ever, there's one name that comes out of everybody's mouth first.

Speaker 2 And he goes, he goes by initials. They don't call him Lawrence, they call him LT.

Speaker 2 That's all we're saying. So I get the sticks, but five six

Speaker 2 in that

Speaker 2 in New York,

Speaker 2 he was tower.

Speaker 2 And that's my, and that's my OG.

Speaker 2 That's my OG. Every time I see him, I'm with him.

Speaker 2 I just saw him a couple of weeks ago and had that autograph signing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'll be seeing him all the time.

Speaker 2 That's my dude, man. That was the greatest defensive player ever.

Speaker 2 And there's been some great ones. And I'm fortunate enough to play in the era.
I played in the era with Reggie at his prime. Bruce Smith at his prime.
Ray Lewis at his prime.

Speaker 2 Deion, Coach Frime, at his prime.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about guys that one defensive player of the year, multiples.

Speaker 2 He's it.

Speaker 2 He made two different positions famous.

Speaker 10 Famous.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I think it's different. I think it's different, but this is what I do like about Abdul.

Speaker 2 The confidence.

Speaker 10 I feel, the belief, I feel I can wear that 56 and do it justice. despite LT being the greatest defensive player of all time.
That's what makes Abdul who he is right now.

Speaker 10 That's why he was drafted, where he wasn't drafted, when he wore the sticks, when he was at Penn State.

Speaker 10 The belief, the confidence, on not only that, in between them lines, the skill set to be able to pull it off. So the mere fact that he's coming in with

Speaker 10 that kind of cash in attitude, I feel like I could wear that 56 in New York and do right now.

Speaker 2 I don't even want it. That's how I feel about myself.
I don't even want it. As a matter of fact, I ain't even going to get a 50 number because they might say I'm close to 56.
I might be close to.

Speaker 2 I don't want it. I'm getting

Speaker 2 I'll go back and get that level. I go back and get a single-digit number of vehicles.
And yes, this is what I do. This is what this is what Shannon says, man.
Look at him, man.

Speaker 2 I don't even want that number, Mike. I don't even want to live up none of that thing.
Let me go on number, man. Get out.
He's legendary. Yeah, man.
You can't do that.

Speaker 2 You can't do it on a legendary number, man. Don't even mess with that.
Don't even be talking about all that, man, to put yourself in that situation, man.

Speaker 2 Just go on the weather level, do what you did, and get out. You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Get out. Yeah.
You know what I mean? If you hear the story about LT, LT, LT late for the plane. LT gets out of the car, throws his keys to the valet, say, I'll be back here Sunday.
Pick me up.

Speaker 2 And the guy brings him up on Sunday.

Speaker 2 LT, he's driving to New York. Oh, Joe.
He's driving. He's like, damn.
He got the lights on at Giant Stadium. He's supposed to be playing.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 10 on NFL Films, man, Bill Belichick told a story one day about starting the meeting. starting a meeting, and the head guy.

Speaker 2 I don't remember what the head coach was. The coach was the head guy.
Parcels with the head coach. Okay, Parcell with the head coach.

Speaker 10 So Bill Bill, I think Bill must have went to Parcells and said something about, you know, it was LT, you know, he showed up, he showed up late to a meeting and he wasn't there.

Speaker 10 And so Parcells asked him, well, did you start the meeting on time or did you wait for him to get there? He said, no, I just waited for him to get there.

Speaker 2 Well, that's the good thing because the meeting don't start until LT get there. I mean,

Speaker 2 what do we talk about here? Like, that's like, what? It's like, now, Ocho, guys, you got an opportunity to see Tom Brady. If you're old enough, you get an opportunity to see Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 If you weren't old enough, you didn't see Joe and those come from behind victories, and you didn't see L. Way and Marino in plate.

Speaker 2 So, I don't think people realize because they see TJY and they see these Aaron.

Speaker 2 Think about it. This man won the MVP of the league as a defensive player

Speaker 2 of the league.

Speaker 2 Different, man.

Speaker 2 He was LT, what was LT? Like a 10-time all-pro, like eight or nine first team.

Speaker 2 Do you know how hard it is to be that?

Speaker 2 A first team.

Speaker 2 I think Brady has three first team all-pros. Those are the seasons that he won the MVP.
Let that sink in for a second.

Speaker 2 Aaron Donald was, I think, an eight-time first-team all-pro in 10 seasons. I think LT had that many, but LT had like, I think he went like six or seven in a row.

Speaker 2 Carl Banks, somebody beat him out, and then he went to another two or three. How many first-team all-pros did LT have? Eight, first team.

Speaker 2 How many consecutive? Seven.

Speaker 2 He was eight first team, and how many second team?

Speaker 2 One or two.

Speaker 2 But I, but look, Abdul,

Speaker 2 I think you're going to be a phenomenal player. Go strike y'all.
Go get your.

Speaker 2 Go build build your own legacy.

Speaker 2 Because you're there. I mean,

Speaker 2 think about it. I don't care what quarter.
You think Joe Burrow gonna go to New England and say, hey, let me get that 12.

Speaker 2 But, but, but, but. Shannon, we shouldn't even be talking about this.
And the giants should be like, man, you can't have that number.

Speaker 2 Hey, listen. Hey, hey, GP.
You can't even have it.

Speaker 10 GP, in that media market, you know how New York media is.

Speaker 2 You know they don't play.

Speaker 10 you don't play you you yeah listen you don't that 56

Speaker 10 and understand what comes behind that or even having it on your having it

Speaker 10 that man is beloved listen and i i listen i'm and you know how i am gp um you know i am i don't care what nobody say especially the media because i'm acting fool but i i wouldn't even i'm just saying if hypothetically speaking I don't want what comes behind that 56 wearing it every Sunday at one o'clock.

Speaker 2 Uh-uh. No, no, sir.
Like I said, they shouldn't even think about getting it to me

Speaker 2 go in here man this your jersey man is in your locker you want to mix that up you already got a hanging up gp just hang his jersey up now in his locker room and say you got 11.

Speaker 2 he is what it is man don't even come to my office talk about 56. you know and then i sin lt and bringing turn thing and say boy you know better than that i'm the one you know her host said i let's

Speaker 2 lt good lt respect lt's like yeah i i appreciate it but enough yeah I mean, like, if you, you've been around LT. I've been around LT.
I don't know how much you've been around LT Ocho.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he'll he'll cool too. Hey, no, hey, hold on, hold on.
Hey, that's a good one. Me and me and L T, we be at Twin Peaks.

Speaker 10 I'm saying you can see the pictures. I see him all the time.

Speaker 2 He's coming off the golf.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay, coming there, smoking cigars with his buddies.

Speaker 2 That's him. That's him.
That's all he wants to do is golf and smoke them cigars. And I've seen him in the

Speaker 2 weeks.

Speaker 2 And Anthony Anderson's golf benefit, baby. So, yeah.
I see him all the time with signers and everything. That's my guy.
So, you know what I'm saying, man. LT ain't worried about that.

Speaker 2 LT was gonna tell that boy, you ain't gonna never

Speaker 2 compare to me.

Speaker 2 Everybody gotta understand, put your name or your picture next to me.

Speaker 2 You can't, it ain't gonna never be another LT. I don't give nobody say, right.
You understand,

Speaker 2 just put your picture next to us, and we'd be good. Yeah, you know, the job should even put him in that situation.

Speaker 10 All right. You know what I do like?

Speaker 2 All right, before we go, before you go, I just want to to say this about Abdul Carter.

Speaker 10 You know what I do like, though, GP and

Speaker 2 I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 there's something in players that don't have the day that we had back in the day. GP, you talked about it earlier, you know, as far as supporting cash, you know, role players and all that.

Speaker 2 Young bullets.

Speaker 10 For the mere fact, he even had the gall and the ball to say, I want to think about this, OJ.

Speaker 2 What did that tell you? What did that tell you about him? Aaron Donald won three defensive players of the year. So did JJ Watt.

Speaker 2 And ain't nobody said they're better than LT.

Speaker 2 And we're watching them in this era.

Speaker 2 So now remember now when LT played, they didn't throw the football like they throw it now. He didn't have the chances to go to hunt the quarterback like they do now.

Speaker 2 They put a special, Joe Gibbs put a special offense in

Speaker 2 just to deal with LT.

Speaker 2 He put the H-back in.

Speaker 2 He said, I want to put somebody over here with the left tackle so they can help on LT.

Speaker 2 out. Yeah, that's when you know when they put it, when they design a special offense to deal with you,

Speaker 2 if you couldn't block him, you couldn't beat the Giants. Go back and look at the 80s and look at the left tackles that got drafted in the first round:

Speaker 2 Jim Lachey, and they go get Herb Eatman, they go get Gary Zimmerman, they get Steve Wallace. Go back and look

Speaker 2 and see what they did just to deal with this man.

Speaker 2 The volume.

Speaker 2 Ah,

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