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We had a very eventful day. A couple of the games were really close.
Interesting. The others, first, let's start with the beatdown that we just witnessed.
The Pacers blew out the Bucs 129-103. Dane has a potential Achilles tear.
I don't want to play. It didn't look good because when he went down GP, he grabbed the back of that ankle,

and we know what that seems to indicate.

Hopefully it's not that.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Let's pray for that.

But they blow him out 129-103.

The Pacers, eight guys in double figures.

Siakam, 12 points.

Neesmith, 14.

Turner, 23.

Nembhard, 20. Halliburton, 17 with 15 assists.
Obi Toppin had 13. Walker, 12.
And TJ McConnell had 15. And the Bucs only had three guys in double figures, but it wasn't nearly enough.
You could see a lot of the momentum leave the building once Dame Dollar went down with that Achilles injury. GP, let me ask you this.
You played, I don't know if you had any severe injuries that was career-threatening. What does this mean for Dame? If this is what a lot of people are surmising or suspecting that it might be.
Well, you know what, Shannon? It's like this. Dame is here from Oakland, California, where I'm from.
You know what I'm saying? And I grew up with his pops. We got the same agent.
You know what I'm saying? And I got the message for him there. It doesn't look really, really good.
You know what I'm saying? Dame just gave him back from what his injury that he was from. He only had one game back.

It doesn't look really, really good.

You know what I'm saying?

That's my guy.

That's my little nephew to me.

I don't like it.

I just don't like the injury.

I think this is not going to be good for Milwaukee.

Milwaukee is not that basketball team that everybody needs to see.

They can't compete with this young team in Indiana.

It's not looking good, and I don't think it's going to be looking good.

I think this is going to be terrible, terrible news for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm going to let you go in just a second, Ocho.
Yeah. Was this Giannis, if they get swept in the first round again, is this Giannis' last game in Milwaukee? Well, they're not going to get swept.
You know, with Shannon, they don't. I mean, if they get put out of the playoffs, you get 4-1.
What I'm going to think is, what's going to happen, Shannon, is they're going to make a retool of everything. You know what I'm saying? They got to think about everything.
They got to think about how they're going to get better, what's going to happen. This team is not the same team.
They tried to make

trades with Middleton and

all that. It didn't work.
I think

they're going to retool this whole team.

I don't even think Dame's going to be there

next year. I'm going to be honest with you.

You know, it's something that they've

got to retool about. This team

is not the same. If they

get before one in this series, I think they're going to retool everything, Shannon. Ocho, go ahead.
Hey, listen. We talk about retooling GP.
This is what's going to happen. Listen, my ears and eyes aren't as close to the basketball world as you, GP.
But I can tell you this. Giannis was already frustrated.
Giannis was already frustrated being in Milwaukee and not winning. Obviously, he's won a chip already.
But the addition of Dame Dollar was supposed to be that of one that got them over the hump. Now, if they get swept, a gentleman sweep, as we so call it, I think he's going to be frustrated and probably asked to be out.

With Dame,

with Dame obviously being hurt,

hoping,

I'm hoping for the best for him.

That is not as bad as what it looked like.

I don't think Dame would be there as well.

But knowing Giannis,

especially with Dame coming off an Achilles injury,

if that's what it is,

I think he's going to ask out.

And I'm just going to throw this out in the pot.

The best place for Giannis to go

is to go from the Bucs and come on down here

to Miami because we need a superstar.

I just had to

throw that out there.

So the basketball

guards can hear that and I can manifest that

for us down here at the crib.

Let me tell you about that.

I get it, but you know,

these are going to be big trades.

You know what I'm saying? To get Giannis, you got to give

a lot of people away.

Only person that you go,

you know, they're going to be asking

for a lot from Miami.

You know? Probably four draft

picks and two players. Yeah, and them players

are going to be their top, like,

hero and fam.

What you're

trying to say right now, Chad, is

I get it. I get it that

That's what you're trying to say right now, Chad, is I get it. I get it that that's what you want to say, but they're going to have to put one of them dudes in, and then when you get rid of a lot of them players, you're going to come with a lot of other players that you've got to bring along.
You know what I'm saying? Who are you going to pick? They're going to try to get rid rid of Bam if that's the case. That hero is going to be there and then it's just only going to be a hero and Giannis.
So we got to understand that, but it's going to be a lot because they're going to have to make, they're going to have to give a lot of weight to get that kid. See, I understand exactly what you're talking about too.
Give me a minute. Y'allall stay with me real quick now.
I sat down yesterday. I sat down yesterday with Pat Riley and Mick Arison and we came down with a game plan based on what we want to do and trying to facilitate a way to get the heat back to what we used to be at one time when we had our big three.
When we had Bosh, we had D-Wade, and we had LeBron. First off, you gotta learn what 206

I got John Chapman shit, baby.

It was us who started that thing.

You know what I'm saying?

We want that big shit down there.

Yeah, you're right. One thing about it, I'm not

going to forget history. I remember history.

I remember history. So what I'm thinking about,

I was talking with Pat yesterday. We sat down.

We have a cup of tea, with a pinky finger out. And I asked him, I said, listen, we need to do what we need to do.
The Grizzlies, they got swept. I think that we need to make a move for Ja.
We need to make a move for Ja. And I said, listen, we're also- You still have to give up pieces, Ocho.
You think people just gonna just take Ja? Oh, listen, before you start painting, you got a canvas, right? So the conversation Pat Riley had, it was the canvas. Now allow us to work, now allow us to paint.
We ain't even get to the painting parts yet. We're going to figure out a way to get it done.
Now, not only are we going to get Giannis, we're going to find a way to get Ja Morant down here as well. And I think we get the addition of them two, then we build around Ja and Giannis down here in Miami,

and we're going to be fine.

But Chad, how you going to get both of them without giving up everything you got?

Listen, we don't have a problem giving up everything we have

because we can build with those two as a future.

No, you can't.

Because here's the thing.

See, you thinking everybody's going to make the same mistake

that Nico Harrison made,

giving up Luca basically for an evil swap with Anthony Davis and not a

whole lot of draft picks. Now, y'all

got to understand, Nico, my guy,

he's a president.

He doesn't own that team.

For you to give away Luka,

when you give up Luka,

you got to have permission

to give up Luka. I don't care

what y'all saying. Don't put that on Nico.

Everybody trying to put that on Nico, don't do that. He got to be, have permission to get rid of that guy.
You know what I'm saying? And that, that owner, she had to say, yeah, let's do it. Don't, don't give it on him.
Oh, for sure. He had to get permission to get rid of him.
And it had to be a lot of reasons to give away Lucauka. It wasn't just because we're trying to make a deal.
It's because something else in that situation had to say, I'm ready to get rid of this guy. I don't want to give this guy $350 million because he's not being that guy in Dallas who he was.
And that's what you guys got to understand. He was doing a lot more things in Dallas for them to get rid of him.
You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, for sure. It's kind of like Adam Silver's commissioner.
Roger Goodell is commissioner. And people get mad at them, but they work at the behest of the owners.
The owners run the league. Adam Silver's just the mouthpiece.
Roger Goodell is the mouthpiece. So you have to take all the booing.
Don't you remember Thursday night? You're like, man, they booing the commission again? Yep. They can't boo the owners because the owners don't get introduced.
So they booed the commissioner. You're absolutely right.
But in a situation like that, think about what Minnesota gave up to get Rudy Gobertbert think about what phoenix gave up to get kevin durant there are not a whole lot of teams other than the only team that i could think of off the top of my head to have the kind of draft capital and some of the players that a team might be interested in is okc they got 13 first round pick and pick swaps and jaylen williams i don't think they want to part with jaylen williams don't. They're not getting rid of shape.
So don't even call. They're going to hang up on you.
And then everything that you say after that is going to be moot. So it's just hard when you're trading superstars.
If you're going to talk about Ja and Giannis, you're going to have to get like five or six teams involved, GP. You got to.
Well, Shatter, you're going to have to get four teams at least to get away two of their stars or some of their stars and a lot of draft picks. You know what I'm saying? So let's talk about Oklahoma City.
They're not giving away nobody. They just swept.
They just swept the team. So I ain't even tripping off that.
They're young, and they're going to be cool. And they little young point guard about to get MVP a lead.
I don't know. It's going to be hard with Joker, but he's going to win MVP.
So it's like this. They're not going to do anything.
For these teams to be where they're going to be, they're going to have to give up something. And they're going to get a lot lot.
It's going to be a lot to give up. And we are not going to sit here and sugarcoat it.
It's not going to happen. They're going to have to give up a lot of their players and they're going to have to restart.
Chad, if Miami give up anybody, they're going to give away their whole team. And I know Pat Riley too.
You know, I play for him. He'll fool around and do do that but he's not going to give away hero right now and all them dudes because I just can't see it you can't give away them dudes for a young piece and just say you got to give me away these guys and say I'm going to rebuild them and they their own.
They can't do that.

See, this is the thing, GP. I understand you played for Pat.
You have a great relationship

with Pat, right? With great understanding.

This is some of the things that are

out of character for him to do. But right

now, Pat and Mickey, they're in a different situation.

We want to get back to our winning ways.

Can we get back to our winning ways

with the squad that we collectively have

right now? Now, we got some players. We got a good squad.
You know, they put on their, they put on their hard hats. They make it, you know, they, they play just well enough to make it to the playoffs, but we don't want to be, we don't want to do just well enough.
Like we want to get back to the upper echelon of coming out of the East and actually challenging, contending for NBA championship. And how do we do that? We have to do something that's out of character.
Similar to what Dallas did. That's out of character.
Tell Pat to sit back. Because here it is, GP.
You know this. Your son is currently in the league.
It's a different league now. That iron fist and that ruling, like I'm dictator, that ain't flying with these young cats no more.
It ain't. you taking cookies and it's gonna be my way on the highway guy says okay I take the highway you see LeBron James left because he took cookies he had a problem with Jimmy Butler Jimmy Butler left so you the so what do you think Giannis is Giannis is an apex predator you think you're gonna be able to talk to Giannis like you do Tyler Or Bam? Listen, you heard what you just said, huh? You heard what you just said? Listen, people like that have ability to change and understand.
He hasn't. He hasn't.
No, he's not. Listen, me and Shannon are almost in the same era.
You know you're a beefer, like me. Yes, sir.
Hey, man. You know you're a beefer.
Like me, baby. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. You mean you're on state for sure.
You know what I'm saying? Well, right now, this era is a lot different, man. They controlling things in this little era, man.
And we got to accept it. They're controlling things.
So what's gonna happen is that Pat gonna try

to get right, but he gotta get

that player that's gonna be willing

to do whatever. And to get Giannis

and to get

a Moran, you gonna have to pay a lot.

So think about what happened.

Memphis

hot-fire their coach

in the middle of the season.

Season, yes. They was like 4- five.
Four and five in a seed. And because of whatever happened, whoever did it, whatever happened.
And it didn't work. Players.
It didn't work. Now we're talking about the same thing.
Giannis didn't go and cry or all he want to do. But we ain't got a lot of players out there that's going to get out like that now.
You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of these dudes want to play with each other. So who want to play with Giannis? Who want to do that? Who want to take a two-year, three-year deal and say, I'm going to Milwaukee? Ain't too many people coming to Milwaukee.
No, they ain't going to Milwaukee. You have to trade trade for somebody.
Ain't nobody signing. So now what you're saying is now, where can I go? Miami.
Okay, you can come to Miami, but how are you going to give up? You're going to give up all your team and then you're going to have two players and then you got to fill up 13 more positions. I give you a prime example, Ocho.
GP, and you can attest to this, it's the same thing that happened when Carmelo Anthony left Denver and went to New York. They had a nice team, and they could have kept that team and got Carmelo.
But when they got Carmelo, the Nuggets gutted them. And now look what you got.
You got a superstar in New York, and Carmelo was a superstar. But he had nothing.
And so now... Then you went and got my boy AI.
He was aging. You know what I'm saying? So what you got to do is, what is you going to put with these dudes, man? Nowadays in this era.
You don't want to gut your whole team. You know what I'm saying? We can take Oklahoma City, for example.
They didn't gut their team. They started drafting, drafting, drafting, and now look at them.
Look at them, honey, or now. You're not going to gut everybody to do that, and I don't think that's going to happen.
Because this team of walks, if they look, I don't know what they're going to do, but they're not going to be sitting around here and saying, we're going gonna give six, seven players and four, five draft picks for Giannis. It ain't gonna happen.
He's not that type of basketball player for y'all to get rid of y'all team and say, okay, we gonna build around him and do this, that, and that, but we ain't got nothing around me. It ain't gonna work.
It ain't gonna work like that. No.
When you look at this game, I mean, you look at the Bucs. Outside of Giannis and Dane, they really not that good.
Brooke Lopez played 15 minutes tonight. He had six points.
He had one rebound, one assist, one steal, one block, four personal fouls. Here's a guy that's seven foot tall and I don't think he's ever averaged more than eight rebounds in a season.
Let that sink in. He's seven foot tall.
He doesn't want to play with his back. And once upon a time, GP, he played with his back to the basket.
Now he's a seven-foot perimeter player. That's no good because Giannis needs space.
So he has the space. He has to stand out there.
Serves you no purpose. Dame goes down.
Now you look at this lineup. Kyle Kuzma.
Now everybody complained, well, Kyle Kuzma didn't have to get up. He played 16 minutes tonight.
He was one for six. Oh, for one from the three.
One for two from the free throw line. He had zero rebounds again.
One assist. No steals.
No blocks blocks, zero turnover, three fouls.

Hey, Doc, that's on you because you say, how can you get in the rhythm

if you don't shoot the ball?

You're the head coach.

It's your job to diagram plays to put him in position.

That's again.

Now, remember the old joke?

The other stat line the other night, it was zeros across the board.

Now, at least he made one shot.

At least he made one free throw.

And then he had one. No, he had no rebounds, one assist, no steals, no blocks.
But Shannon, these are basketball players you talking about. You trying to put something on them, man.
Listen here, man. In all my age, in my era, man, these dudes got to get out, man.
These ain't players like that, man. We only talk about athletes.
We talk about players. In my era, man, in the 90s, man, we had players, man, that's going to go get here or not.
So think about that, man. You trying to put something into some players that really ain't in that situation to have that type of role.
You feel what I'm saying? That ain't the type of role they're in, man. They ain't in that type of role, man.
You ask him to be something that he's not. In that way.
When have you ever seen these players that you just let be a primary or a player that you need to put in that role? That's why the Lakers were so willing to get rid of him. That's why the Wizards were so willing to get rid of him because that's not what he is.
Yeah, he can get hot and give you 25, give you 30. But routinely, if you go back and study Kyle Kuzma, this is what he is.
He's wildly inconsistent. And it's hard to be a championship team unless you got, when they won in the bubble, they had AD playing at best AD.
You had LeBron at LeBron level. He had LeBron, and then he had Howard.
He had Howard and McGee playing the center. And he told y'all that when he was there.
He said, man, my best position at the four when I can get out. You know what I'm saying? And that's how that game goes.
It's just like with the Lakers right now. They do not have a chemistry, man, with that team.
You watch one person on one side go one-on-one. You watch the other player go one-on-one.
You can't win at that type of basketball right now in the NBA. You can't watch that.
That's why they're not winning. That's why that little young, that team in Minnesota, who got that little dog down there, they know who the dog.
He the Batman. You know what I'm saying? Or the Superman.
And the mother dude's coming with him. You feel what I'm saying? And he's knocking down shots.
But that's what they do, man. They young, and they getting at it.
That's why they up 3-1 right now. And we got to understand that.
Basketball right now, Chad, you know it. It ain't like in our day, man, when we had four, five people on our squad that can get out.
We had a one, a two, a three, a four, and a five. Nowadays, you got one or two guys on the team that's getting down.
That's it. Ain't nobody else going to get out with y'all.
And if you ain't got the right chemistry,

you're not gonna win

basketball games.

Right.

Thanks.

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I never felt the Bucs were going to win this game. Because the other night when Milwaukee won, you got 37-point, a career high from Greg Trent Jr.
What was the likelihood he was going to be able to replicate that? Because at this juncture, yeah, he's a streaky shooter. But what was the likelihood of lightning striking twice? I didn't think it was going to happen.
Now, did I think Giannis can go get 37 again? Sure, absolutely. But, and I said this when I was talking about it, I said, I'm looking at the Pacers, they only got three guys in double figures.
That's not how they win the game. They're a committee.
And they might not have anybody with 30, but they're going to have a bunch of teens and 20s. And you look at it, they have a 14, a 17, a 13, a 12, a 15, a 23, and a 20.

They had eight guys of the guys that they had played.

You know, they got a couple of guys to get in there mop-up duty.

But most of the guys that played got double figures.

And it's hard to beat a team when you get eight of your 10 main guys playing

and they in double figures.

Who do we check?

We can't check everybody.

And that's why they blew them out. That's why they read them off the court.
Let me ask you this. What teams are being successful now with what Shannon is saying? I'm going to give you them teams.
Cleveland. Boston.
Oklahoma City. Golden State Warriors right now who are playing very well when they playing that way and that's how they play.
What Shannon is saying is they got to know who is Batman and Robin. You got to be a role player.
You know what I'm saying? When them teams don't go like't have, when them teams don't go like that, they're not gonna win basketball games. I'm telling you.
Sometimes you gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta have a Commissioner Gordon. You gotta have you gotta have you gotta have you got? You got to have four to five people who are on the same page level.

Oklahoma City is great like that.

Cleveland is great like that.

You know, Boston is playing like that.

And then, you know, a lot of these teams are playing like that. I think Denver and the Clippers are playing like that.

And that's why that series is a very

equal series in their 2-2

right now. You see what I'm saying?

And it's got to work that way.

And once you put that together,

then I'm with you. You know what I'm saying?

But you can't have one or two dudes

because you can't win with one or two guys.

You can't do it. Not in this league right now.

How they're so athletic

and how they just play off their talent

and they shoot threes.

It's not going to happen.

You're not going to win that one.

It's not going to happen.

One of the two most interesting games today,

and this is the game the chat's been begging us to talk about,

the Lakers.

They were close with that Minnesota.

They have a 10-point lead going into the fourth

quarter, but Ant-Man

went berserk.

He scored 16 of his

game-high 43 points as

they outscored the Lakers 32

to 13.

32 to 19, excuse me.

The Lakers shot just 5 of 18 in the fourth,

including 3 of 9 in the last five minutes.

LeBron legs. I text Ash this, and I text this early.
I say, it looks like J.J. is going to roll with these guys the entire second half.
I say, you talk about 46 minutes for LeBron on 40-year-old legs. You talk about Luka, 45 and a half minutes.
You talk about Rui and Dove and A.R. I say, that's a lot of of wear and tear.
I say it's going to be very, very interesting. If this game come down to the last three, four, five minutes, it's going to be very interesting if the Lakers can hold up.
And you see LeBron took two shots in the fourth quarter. He had zero points in the fourth quarter.
He's exhausted. I think it's the first time in, what, 20 years that nobody subbed for the Lakers in the second half of a ballgame.
Everybody that started the game played 24 minutes of a possible 24 minutes. And now I'm concerned because I don't know how the Lakers play better.
You got 23 points on 9 of 16 shooting from Rui, 5 of 10, 23 points. You got LeBron, 27 points of 15 of 18 from the free throw line.
He had 27, 12, 8, 3 steals, 3 blocks. Okay, you got Luka gave you 38, 7 of 7 from the free throw line.
He only had one rebound, two assists. They turned him into a score.
You can live with that. I just don't want him to get 38 and 12 in the assist total.
You got AR. He only scored 17, but he got all of those in the second half.
The bench gave us six points. I think that was the difference in the ballgame because their bench gave you 20 points.
Nas Reed gave you 12 points. Devin Chinzo gave you eight points.
Nikhil Alexander-Walker gave you five points. But it was Ant-Man and Drew Randall that really was— And Jaden Daniels, McDaniels, has been playing unbelievable.
I don't know where this guy came from, but he's been sensational in the postseason. But Ant-Man did what a superstar is supposed to do.
Well, Shannon Daniels is a defensive stopper. He plays like that, but he gives you more.
I'm going to compare Daniels to my son. They give you everything they have to do to win basketball games, not just defense.
When they start scoring and they do special stuff, their team is going to win. We're going to go back to that, Chad.
Listen to what I'm saying. We're going to go back to what challenge you see.

Why do you think Minnesota

won? First of all, the Lakers

can't play defense. They have no

defense at all. You feel me?

That's just a bad thing.

And they need a big to protect the rim once

they get beaten. They don't have that.
Absolutely. So,

now what happened was, is

that Ant-Man got busy.

So, let me tell you about this.

What should you do about a guy who gets hot?

Double.

Get the ball out of his hand and make somebody else be special.

But what do you know what they did?

Minnesota got other people to come off the bench and be special and make shots.

See, that's a difference.

I was at my son's game last night, and they were beating up Curry for a long time. I kept saying, get him off the ball.
Stop having him be on the ball so they can double him every time. And then they finally listened and started getting him at the bottom, and he started coming off picks.
But when they started doubling him, and all of a sudden, who started getting busy? My son and other people. And they beat him.
You know what I'm saying? You have to have a cast to support you. That's what the game is about.
It ain't about superstars. Now, when this playoffs come, it ain't about superstars.
It's about who's going to support my superstar to get me to win basketball games. And the teams who are winning now are a guy, a cast, that can support their superstars.
So when they superstars get to start going, reason why Edwards got busy today, because he was one-on-one with everybody. And ain't nobody gonna stop him one-on-one.
If you start doubling on him and doubling him and everybody else and not making shots, you're not going to win games. It's not going to happen.
So when you start doing that, what's it going to do? If my superstar passing the ball and my other supporters start making buckets, then what the coach is going to start saying, man, don't leave him. Don't leave him.
We can't do it. But when your superstar go one-on-one, it's hard to guard a superstar.
Ain't nobody going to guard nobody and stop nobody one-on-one. Isn't it like with you, Chad, and with you, Chadwick? And they got single coverage on y'all.
Y'all kidding, y'all. That's just like fish grease.
Y'all, I mean like going out there and picking something. Boy, I'm going to kill y'all every time I see y'all.
One-on-one, I'm going to get everything on y'all. So then y'all got to get double.
Then who we going to go to next? We're going to go to those, man, and we're going to start killing them. That's how the game goes.
And if you don't have to support the pass, it's not going to work. It's not going to work in this league right now because these dudes are too athletic and they can get it.
So that's who are winning games now because they're athletic. And they're making shots and our superstars don't have to work as hard as they do.
Very. Yeah.
Hey, and GP, when I looked at the next game, obviously watching the Lakers play with Luka having a good game and then doing what he did, LeBron doing what he did early in the game, and they had contributions from everybody else. Obviously, the bench didn't score and support the top the big their big three as you so want to call it in a sense but the wolves having 20 off the bench and then having goddamn ant-man go crazy tonight with 43 you know nine and six you know that's what he's supposed to do and you can't say or have a reason.
We know LeBron is 40. You know, we understand that he's still playing the game, especially in a time like this.
It ain't no time to come out. It ain't no time.
You can't come out. You've got to play the whole game, but you have to contribute more in that time, in crunch time, in order for your team to win.
You got to. Legs tired.
Legs feeling good. It don't matter.
That's just what it is. So we can't make excuses for him.
They don't do nothing anyway. They don't practice.
They don't do nothing. They ain't tired.
You know what I'm saying? And what I tell y'all is, Shally, he might be 40, but he's still doing what he do in his league. When you do what you do in his

league and don't get no support

and everybody keep focusing on

you and beating you down,

you're going to get tired.

You ain't got no support from nobody

who's making shots that free me up.

Then that's going to happen.

Both of them get at 38, 27

or whatever they want to, but at the

end, if ain't nobody doing nothing but us too, all we got to do is focus on you two. And then what's going to happen? You two ain't, my other people ain't doing no cash.
UC Minnesota came off the bench and had support. So when it got time for the crucial time, you can't go and double Edwards because I'm worried about these dudes off the bench.
Worried about Julius Randle, worried about Niles Reed, I'm worried about McDaniels, I'm worried about Devin Chimzo. And Reed made a big three at the end, three minutes, two of them, you right, and busted him.
So now, am I worried about him? Yes! I'm worried about him. So I can't go and say, no, I ain't gonna try to guard him because he gonna make shots.
So that's freed up everybody. And with LeBron and Luka, you can't say that.
It ain't gonna work like that. We just go and double him and hope that when they go to this other player, he gonna miss shots.
And what did the Lakers do? They missed shots. Yeah.
LeBron had zero points in the fourth quarter. Luka had one rebound, two assists.
It's his fewest rebounds and assists ever in a playoff game. The bench, Nas Reed had 12, DiVincenzo had six, Lakers, excuse me, DiVincenzo had eight.

And the Lakers had six.

And so it seems to me that they were like, you know what?

We're content.

We're going to make you, we'll let you score.

Yeah.

But what we're not going to do is let you get 38 and eight assists.

38 and 10 assists.

Because now the others are involved.

And that played right into their hands.

You see, if you look at Ant-Man, what did Ant-Man have today? Ant-Man had 43 and 6 assists. You see? He got others involved.
If you see assists, people are like, well, why he didn't have no assists? Well, I would have had a double digits in assists if God could have made shots. Yeah.
Luka smoked two layups. LeBron smoked the layup.

Austin Reeve smoked the layup.

When you're playing a team like this,

you have to cash in on every opportunity.

Every opportunity.

Let's make another case for this.

Look at the Denver game yesterday

against the Clippers.

You see the Joker.

He was killing, right?

They all tried to go and go at him on the last second, 99, 99. He go and take a fadeaway three.
They worried about him. Everybody worried about him and then the air goal and who make the final dunk to win the game? Aaron Gore.
Okay, so that's what I'm trying to tell y'all. We got to understand that other role players got to be that type of guy, man, with this Denver stuff.
That's what it is. And he wind up with, what, 30-something, 20-something rebounds to eight or nine assists, man, two steals.
Yeah, he had like 36, 36, 21, and eight. And that's what it's all about.
Your role players have to be with you in this day of era, in this basketball game to win basketball. It is what it is.
Check this stat out. Check GP.
Check this stat out. Nas Reed in the fourth quarter of this series has 26 points.
He's nine of 10 from the field and field goal. He's six of six from three and clutch the last five minutes minutes of the ballgame, Ocho, the game is within five points.
That's what they consider clutch time. He's 6 of 6 from the 3 in clutch situation.
He's 9 of 10 for the floor with 26 points. I mean, you talk about Jordan, you talk about Colby, whomever.
They've never been like this You're talking about a guy that's missed one shot. He's perfect from the three.
That's crazy. We're talking about also here, man.
These type of dudes you have to have on your team. You remember the Lakers had Robert Horry who did his thing in a day.
You know what I'm saying? Big you have... Big shot at the big shot, Bob.
Big shot at the big shot. You want a guy.
And I tell people as I coach now in junior college, I say, you want to be on the floor with six minutes. You're the closer.
You're the closer. I want you to make big shots.
For with him and Reed, what was he last year? Sixth man of the year. You feel what I'm saying? He coming in and making these big time shots.
And that's what you want from these dudes. And that's the way you're going to win championships.
That's the only way you're going to win championships in this NBA. Okay, well, listen.
Now that we got all that good stuff out the way, let's talk about the meat and potatoes of this series and what's going on right now the Lakers are down 3-1 and in GP GP you could probably attest to this and have a better answer but I'm sure Uncle you probably know as well being that your knowledge and and and and acumen of the game of basketball is good do you see any scenario at all any type of magical um situation where the Lakers come back

GP I see GP shaking his head

wait so you still feel

there's a possibility that the Lakers can come back down

stop it

man you can better dinner

on this

bet it

anywhere you want to go

I'm with it

no way the Lakers gonna beat them three in a row. Ain't no way.
No possible way. We're going seven games.
They're not gonna beat them. They're not gonna beat them.
Guess what? We gotta see the problem that that J.J. ran into is that LeBron had just played

38, 40 minutes a night ago.

And then you follow that up.

Now, the best thing about this,

they don't play again until Wednesday.

So LeBron get an extra day.

Luka get an extra day.

We got this.

We're going to go back to Minnesota.

We're going to get that one

and then we come back to LA.

So are we saying the fact

that they're losing

is because their legs are tired?

No, no, no. That's a good team, but'm saying, Ocho, just imagine how your legs feel.
Just imagine if you had to play a football game on Monday and then you had to play another one on Wednesday. Not Thursday, Monday, Wednesday.
I'd be good. I'm talking about me.
No, you wouldn't. I don't know about nobody else.
Yeah, you would. Would you be good at 40 playing wide receiver? I think you would.
I think you would. Yeah, yeah.
I'd be good. Hold on.
We're talking about at 40. Our mentality is different, though.
You know what I mean? You got it. See? Our mentality is different than that, though.
You can't compare them kids to us. You know what I'm saying? Our mentality is way different.
But, GP, you can have a mentality all you want to. That body, no.
The mind willing, the body just ain't able to get up and down. Well, Shannon, I'm going to go get a jacuzzi.
I'm going to kick it. I'm going to get my legs right.
I ain't going to practice. I ain't doing none of that.
I'm going to come back and give you 50. I'm telling you right now.
And first of all, these dudes got a lot. But you got to understand, they lost in LA.
They lost in LA. Minnesota came in and defended home.
It's going to be hard for you to beat them. They're going to go to LA, Minnesota, LA.
Minnesota ain't going to lose at home. I'm guaranteeing that.
We got them. We spoke, we actually, we spoke to that and took two of them.
We spoke to that and took both of them. We got this, GP.
We got that. Okay, I got you.
Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on.
When y'all have a bet, right? When y'all have a bet, and you talk about the dinner bet, is there a certain amount? Is there a certain restaurant you can and can't go to? How does that work? Go wherever you want to go, man. Do you? Yeah, we got this.
You know what I'm saying? Because I'm confident on 3-1. They ain't coming back like that.
They hold me. Hey, now you know if anybody know how to come back from a 3-1 deficit, GP.
Are you with me? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I'm telling you, I get it, but that ain't going to happen.
That ain't going to happen. Look, Shannon, this ain't no mentality of us.
I'm going to tell you one time, man. These dudes ain't cut like that, man.
I don't care what you're saying. They ain't cut like us, man.
They ain't cut like, man, I'm going to go, man. We going to bust them for three games.
Dude, these dudes want to go on vacation, man. You know what I'm saying? We're going to.
Yeah, I'm going to. Look here.
They ain't doing. Yeah.
I want to make a sad. I want to make a sad bet.
I can make a sad bet? No, you owe. You can't make no bet.
Oh, what's up? What? What? What's up? That's true. Oh, I'm saying.
I'm saying. No, I'm with you.
But I'm saying. I'm with you.
Because Santa said you can't make a bet because you already owe something. What's up? What's up? What's up? Listen.
Listen. Listen.
Listen. and I'm doing, I'm saying, I'm with you.
But I'm saying, because Santa say you can't make a bet because you already owe something. What's you already owe? Listen, listen, listen, I'm doing right by him.
I owe him 5,200, right? But as long as that- No, you owe me 5,200 plus 15%. Okay.
But you're not the bank. You can't add that much.
Yes, you can. How? Let me ask you a question.
Have you ever gone to the bank and borrowed money without paying interest on the money? I ain't never borrowed no money from the bank. We ghetto, man.
You can't do it like we in the mafia. You can't do all that.
Let that go, man. Let that 50-200.
I got to put some juice on it. Hey, GP, I got to put a little juice on it.
Yeah, I know. Tell's been too long.
Hey, man, tell me to get you a bottle or something, something. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to get you a bottle or something, something, man, and let that go.
I mean, listen, I'm, I'm, hey, GP, I'm just trying to give him, I'm giving, I'm trying to give him a chance to double his money. So if he really do be like, let's double it.
I don't want to double it. I just want that what I got.
I just, I just played more trouble. Double to nothing.
Double to nothing. Double to nothing.
Chad, Chad, I got to go with Shannon, man. Just give me my 52, man.
Let I rock the other way, man. Yeah, man, all that doubling.
I can't double it. I can't double it.
Okay, okay. Okay.
How you going to double? He want to double up my money. Hey, bank.
Hey, bank. I know I owe you a couple hundred thousand, but there'll be another, hey, double or nothing.
I'm just saying, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity. I'm giving you an opportunity to double your money.
So when I do pay you, you have more than what you was going to get in the first place.

That ain't bad. Well, consider that I haven't got what I was supposed to be getting at the end of the season.

The likelihood of me getting that double ain't happening either.

No, I told you when I see you, I'm going to pay you.

That's all.

$59.80.

You owe me $59.80 plus that 15%.

It went to $52 to $59?

Yeah.

In this economy? Well, I don't know. Thank you.
I need my money in this economy. LeBron said tired legs was not the cause of the misses.
J.J. Reddick became the first coach to play five players for an entire half in the playoffs.
J.J. said on his start of playing the entire second half, it wasn't planned, but we just made the decision at halftime.
Magic Johnson questioned the strategy. I'm just sick to my stomach that the Lakers lost this game after being in control most of the second half.
I don't know if it's smart to play LeBron and Luka the entire second half after only having one day rest between game three and four we needed LeBron to take over in the fourth quarter and he couldn't he scored zero points in the fourth I agree I agree uh the refs missed a trip Luka got tripped I mean that was a blatant trip he doesn't fall on his own we we watched it he gets tripped so we should have been at the free throw line yes um, Luka smoked the layup that would have put him

up seven. They come down here

to three. So now

instead of being up seven,

you're only up two.

You see how

momentum swing, LeBron

missed the layup,

had a great curl

set, smokes that

layup. AR

smoked the layup. It's just, look,

I think it was

I'm not going to't want to make excuses. But, GP, when you ask that man to do what the man had, he had the most rebounds of anybody that touched the court today.
He had the most assists of anybody that touched the court today. He had the most blocked shots.
He had the most steals. Well, no, even Chinzo had the most steals.
But you're talking about a 40-year-old. Yeah.
Been letting rebounds, letting blocked shots, letting assists. You're asking a 40—think about what you're asking a 40-year-old.
A 40-year-old, what you're asking him to do. And, Shannon, I'm going to comment on that.
We own a freak of a nature type of dude. I get it what you're saying about we ask him.
He's different. He's a lot different.
I don't agree with him not getting no rest in the second half. I think you resting for two or three, four minutes each quarter.
Resting for like two or three minutes and bringing back and do the same thing. But what I do with J.J., I'm going to go to J.J.
Reddy's defense. He was saying, I can't lose this game.
I'm going to go with my player who I think is going to give me something. You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't have did that.
You know, and timeouts don't cut it sometimes. It don't work.
I would have gave him three to four minutes or five minutes every quarter. I would have did five minutes and then still controlled it.
I get what Magic is saying. You know what I'm saying? Give him his legs.
I would have gave him third quarter. I would have said he five to six minutes and then played him the whole fourth quarter.
You know what I'm saying? That's what I would have did. It was a bad decision on his behalf, but I think what J.J.
is thinking as the first year... He needed that.
He's got to get this game. And it didn't work out for him.
Now when he's going to go back, he's going to reevaluate everything. He's going to give him rest because they need this win in L.A.
on Wednesday. And I think they're going to get the win on L.A.
on Wednesday. They're going to get it.
But I'm just saying. He should have evaluated that a little bit different.
I don't think it's legs and all that. I think he got tired and they went away from everything that they did.
To me, you go put LeBron on the block, see if they're going to go, let him guard one-on-one and go at him. And if you watch the game, it's that too high.
Watch Luka. Watch LeBron.
I'm focusing on all of y'all. Put him on the block.
Let him come down there and double. You know what I'm saying?

And do things like that, but they don't play that way. Y'all know

Shannon and Chad. This game ain't like

good. If I see

you and Chad

on a disadvantage, man, I'm going to want

y'all to play every day.

I'm going to play every day.

Until they stop it.

Until they stop it.

And with me, with LeBron being 6'8", 260, I'm going to put you on the block. I'm not going to put you on top where everybody can focus in on you and we can suck in.
Put you on the block and if you got to come down with me, let me kick it to somebody, hit a jumper, then you're going to start being irrelevant that way. And they didn't play that game.
I knew LeBron was going to play a ton of minutes today because he normally takes his break at about 6 minutes, 6.30. He didn't take his break today until about 4 minutes.
He got 2 minutes, and then he was right back in the game, and he didn't come out again. So I knew it was going to be one of those, and I was texting Ash.
I said, Ash, first of all, I knew they were in trouble, GP. LeBron is going

off.

Luka is going off. And they got a four-point

lead. Let that sink in now.

All my artillery.

And I only got a four-point lead

and these guys are going haywire

in the first half. So that's not

good because normally

when guys going off, that's a 10,

that's a 12, 14-point lead. You got both of your big guns and Minnesota's right there so they gotta feel good and as a matter of fact they had a 3 point lead at the half they're like hold on LeBron had 22 Luka got 21 that's 43 right there and we still got the lead are we good it's the same thing with the Lakers when they lost to the Nuggets.
When LeBron went crazy in the first half, he had like 30, 32 points. You remember that game? In the first half, they're like, oh, he done.
He done spinning hard. He blew his load.
We got this. He ended up, he had 32 at the half.
He ended up having 40 for the game because he exerted so much, and it wasn't enough to get the separation that he needed luke and lebron exerted so much lebron i think lebron had five points in the third quarter none in the fourth quarter but they did a great job of taxing him yeah and because i think a lot of this gp because lebron is so tired they like he's not even a threat when he's on the block because that's normally jul Randle. Julius Randle takes a lot out of you because he's a big body guy.
He wants to bang on you. He's going to bang you.
When you're playing defense on him, he's going to bang on you. When you're playing defense on him, he's going to bang on you.
So it's just bang, bang, bang. And after a while, that takes, that zaps the lead.
But then, Shannon, let me tell you this. Even doing that, why'd I get him in foul trouble? Let him bang, bang me mad.
I'd go at him, spin on him, do the things you do, but that's mean you got to work the game the right way. Y'all remember when I played? Give me the ball on the block.
I want you to bang on me because I'm going to spin on you and I'm going to

kill you every day.

You know what I'm saying?

So you've got to get to that level where LeBron has to learn.

Don't bang,

bang,

bang.

Work with him.

Get Randall out the game because what's the next person that's going to come

in that game on Minnesota's bench that can handle me?

Not too many people.

Not too many people. So that's, that's being coached and being smart.
That's why I say nowadays, IQ ain't in this game. It's all about athletic ability.
It's athletic ability. This ain't no IQ game right now.
I'm going to tell everybody. Ain't too many guys in here got IQs like that.
You know what'm saying LeBron don't have to bang that boy if he hit me one time on my back spin on him get a foul get him in foul trouble then what's gonna happen you gonna suck right you gonna suck and ain't nobody gonna come up that bench that gonna handle LeBron who muscle him and bully him but when you get a guy who's checked out and he's tired. Yeah.
Let's say again, Shannon. Let's think about the last player of the game.
What LeBron did. He turned the ball over again.
He turned the ball over. Why can't they get the ball inbounds? Because we've seen Reed, we've seen so many times, guys.
Does anybody know how to hard cut? Does anybody know how to set a back beat? But let me tell you this, Shanny. What about just putting your forearm on the mat and just get off and throw the ball down that way? Post it.
Why you don't do that? Why you don't do that? And then if they try to double me, what are you going to do? I'm going to get the ball to the next dude and post it up. I'm telling you once again, IQ.

There ain't no IQ in this game.

I mean, if you want to get me the ball, I'm going to get the ball.

Especially if we can go to the backcourt.

I'm going to hold you off, push you off, and you throw that ball out there,

and I'm going to go get it.

I'm going to get it.

Don't try to make none of them heroic passes that you see, man.

These dudes is not having IQs like that. They't have IQs like that hold on but both of y'all said the same thing right you and Unc got a friendly dinner you say Lakers gonna lose well both of you came to the party and both said hell the Lakers are gonna win Wednesday you said they're gonna win the game Wednesday GP so if they can win the game Wednesday if they can win one they can win two but I don't think that Lakers are going to win Wednesday.
You said they're going to win the game Wednesday, GP. So if they could win the game Wednesday, if they could win one, they could win two.
But I don't think that, but you're going to exert Chad, you're going to exert a lot. Then you're going home against a team that's in Minnesota that plays well at home.
They play well at home. I get it.
You're going to exert all your time, but think about the really, the odds

of everything. Who's done came

back from a 3-1 series deficit

and win as many games as they

win? They're not

going to win three in a row. I'm just not

going to say that. I can't do it.

You don't want to. You lost two games in Minnesota.

You lost one game at home, and you

lost the first game, Chad, at home.

Yeah. So what do you think now, and what have Shannon said? Shannon said, they're getting old, legs are tired, they got two days off.
What you gonna do? How you gonna work that out? All right, is your mindset that, I'm gonna try to win this. Chad, I'm gonna ask you again.
Do you think their mindset is saying, man, we're going to come back and win three in a row? They're not doing that. They're talking about going home.
They're talking about going to Cancun. You know what I'm saying? And we'll work with it next year.
You feel what I'm saying? I'm just saying, it's going to be hard for the Lakers to win three in a row against this young hog team that Shannon has just told people are coming

off the bench doing what they do.

You feel what I'm saying?

And do what they do.

We're thinking about the NBA.

NBA don't want it to be like Oklahoma City go full blank.

They trying to get TV.

Yeah, yeah. Y'all cut into the truck's money.
You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to keep that. I'm just going to do whatever.
I'm going to call the cons that I have to call, whatever. You got to think about it though, Chad.
Who you think is more talented? What team you think was more talented, Chad? think was more talented Chad Minnesota or Lakers Minnesota

they're not going to do that man

and people coming off the bench doing what they do

Shannon just told you

their bench is being more productive

than a Lakers bench

that's what it's come down to

it's who going to be

the people that support

that superstar Cans

I think Minnesota got that

Thank you. that's what it's come down to it's who gonna be the people that support that superstar Cans I think Minnesota got that damn yeah I agree and that's the thing they were so close they had a 10 point lead I'm not so sure with a 10 point lead I think I tried to get I think I tried to get LeBron two minutes to start the fourth we We got to lead.
Well, Chad, I say like this. Like with the Warriors.
Sub him three minutes, bring him in. Sub him at seven.
He got five minutes on the clock. Then he got to get the fourth quarter.
Let him play the whole fourth quarter. You see what I'm saying? That's how you got to do it.
But I just don't think that chemistry is right. When you got two guys on both sides, I saw in a basketball, and you're watching them play basketball.
That's not a good deal for me. It's just like what we did when we played basketball.
We put it in the post and let our big man dominate. If you don't get him, he's going to score every time.
But if you start scoring, we're going to double him. And what do our big man do? Kick it.
And we get easy buckets and we rotate, rotate, and make people rotate. That ain't the game nowadays.
We're just talking about shooting threes, one-on-one iso, trying to do what we do, and it don't work. If you don't have that cast that's making them big-time shots, which Minnesota did today, they paid big-time shots, and it don't work.
It won't work. It just won't work.
The Lakers definitely got their work cut out for them. They're going to have to play.
Hopefully, I don't know if you can get another 25-point game out of Rui Hachimura. Rui was sensational today.
This is by far his best game in the playoffs, and he played extremely well. I don't know if you're going to be able to get, because he was 5 of 10.
He was 9 of 16, played 41 minutes, gave you 23 points. LeBron was 27, 12, 8, 3, 3.
Austin Reeves, he came in and he didn't play, and He was terrible. He got in foul trouble.
He was terrible in the first half. 17-7-4.
I can live with that. I like having something spread out.
But Julius Randle started that game off. He was extremely aggressive.
And that's his game. He's an aggressive player.
He's going to try to put the ball on the floor. He's going to put pressure.

He's going to attack the rim.

Jaden McDaniels didn't start off strong,

but down the stretch, he made all the hustle plays. He got the and

one. He made a big time three.

Ant-Man was Ant-Man,

but it was Nas Reed and D'Vincenzo.

D'Vincenzo getting a rebound,

knocking down a three. You get

Nas Reed knocking down two big threes. D'Vincenzo, DiVincenzo getting a rebound, knocking down a three.
You get Nas Reed knocking down two big threes. DiVincenzo getting an and one.
And I thought, I was like, you know what? Because DiVincenzo got a one and LeBron Skye is like, oh, the old man still got some juice in the tank, GP. But I just think the thing is, yeah, they were tired.
But Ant-Man, he said he's dreamed his whole life of these moments. And you can tell.
12 of 23, 5 of 10 from the three-point line, 14 of 17, nine rebounds, six assists, and he only had one turnover. Well, Chad and Shannon, he told you there's something when he was in the way of the Olympics.
When he started shooting threes, playing his Steph Curry. And he said, man, I was in the game shooting threes.
What is he came back and did? He said, I'm going to shoot more threes this year. And look at his percentage come over the threes.
His confidence is way here. When you give a player like that, that type of ability to do that and become that type of player.
Put him on a Olympic team. Give him that type of ability to become a superstar.
A real superstar. And he make his shots and he get confident.
It's hard to stop a basketball player like that. And he has proven it.
He has proven it that he is the primary player to be that NBA player and take over this league. And that's what he's doing every day after them games.
And he's doing his poster. All he's doing is smile because he knows he's easy.
It's easy for you. It's easy.
And that's what he's doing. And he's showing you that he can put this team on his back.
They thought when they got rid of the cat that it was going to be all over. No.
That boy took this game to another level and did what he do, and they did sixth seed beating the third seed. That's what these teams is.
That's why I tell everybody, stop talking about these seeds and all that that is just crap to me I don't care about none of that you gotta go play in these playoffs and get out and they're showing the Lakers that I don't care what seed you are we gonna go get at you and they get out the thing is that when you look at it that because he can shoot the three, you got to hug up on him and now he can go by you. You see what he's going by? He's going to kick or he's going all the way to the rim.
So it's like, okay, I'm going to play off him. Hand down, man down, Mark Jackson.
And so now he's got that three ball in his bag. He always had the ability to go around you and finish over top of you.
So how do I defend him? If I give him too much airspace, he's going to rise up and shoot. He's going to raise up and shoot the three.
If I hug up on him to take away the three, he's going to go by me and finish on top of me. So, I mean, you're at his mercy.
And you say the thing with Steph Curry. Steph Curry used to be he'd settle for the three.
Now you see Steph put the ball on the floor and get to his flow game. And then, Shannon, you think about that.
When I was at the game last night, what Houston tried to do to Steph Curry was doubling every time. I kept screaming.
I said, get him off the ball. Don't let him dump it.
Let him come off the baseline and do like Reggie Miller or Rip Hamilton. And they had his mercies.
As soon as they did that, Houston fell apart. They fell apart.
But what did the Warriors do? They had other people who made shots and did things that they do. Because once and then what Curry did, he started being

one-on-one and then he started

being Curry. He liked

PlayStation.

Everything you see

is PlayStation.

And he started cooking and he

started hitting shots and then they

started doing it and he started making the right

pass and then they started

finishing and they started saying, man,

what can I do? And when they started

finishing, he started going one-on-one

Thank you. doing it and he started making the right pass and then they started finishing and they started saying, man, what can I do? And when they started finishing,

he started going one-on-one

and it ain't nobody can guard

nobody like that with no talent like

that. One-on-one.

There's no way.

No way.