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Speaker 4 The Knicks escaped with a 94-93 victory and the 3-1 lead in the best of seven in the first round series against the Pistons. The refs screwed the Pistons out of game-winning free throws.

Speaker 4 Officials acknowledged after the game that one huge was missed today on the final play. With the Knicks leading by one, Tim Hardaway Jr.

Speaker 4 drew contact from Josh Hart as Hardaway went up for the potential game-winning shot with 0.03 seconds. Three-point attempt misfired.
Even Josh Hart admits he made contact.

Speaker 4 Jalen Brunson, 32 points, 11 assists. Cat, 27 points, nine rebounds.
Outscored the Pistons. Those two, 23-22 in the fourth quarter.
And they combined for the Knicks' final seven buckets. I don't know.

Speaker 4 The Fisher was standing right there, GP. Not only did he get it with his body, he got him on his arm.
Yeah. See, see, Shannon and Chad, I hate this because you can't call it.

Speaker 4 No, no, no.

Speaker 4 No calling after the game. Call it duty.
I hate when they go and they look at it and they say, We made a mistake. Why are you telling me that? I lost the game.
You should have, you should have.

Speaker 4 That's why I hate this replay crap and all that, man, and these challenges because y'all understand y'all missed the play and you missed the call.

Speaker 4 So don't tip after the game over because you lost the game for me. If you make this call, I go and make two free throws and we win the game.
You feel me? That's why I don't like this basketball, man.

Speaker 4 Y'all got to make the NBA has to get better on these games, man. They got to.
They gotta give these coaches and everybody more challenges.

Speaker 4 You gotta get more challenges because you're losing games. And you're gonna tell me now,

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. You're sorry, but I'm down 3-1.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. Why are you talking about it? And it's supposed to be

Speaker 4 2-2, and this is the change the whole

Speaker 4 dynamics of this whole game and all everything.

Speaker 4 So now you talk about now. I got to go home and say, oh, I'm sorry.
And then you're going to admit to me after the game. They have to change this, man.
They got to change this game, man.

Speaker 4 And they say, man, when you want to challenge, challenge it. You feel me? And that's just the way it got to be.

Speaker 4 And you just tell me, I missed it.

Speaker 4 Ah, man. Now, what I'm supposed to do is say, okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 Okay, you you cool, okay, man. You missed it.
No,

Speaker 4 you crazy, you lost me the game,

Speaker 4 and that's what it is. So, they got to be more consistent, they got to be more there, and the NBA got to figure it out.

Speaker 4 Man, you cannot keep missing calls and letting these referees dictate these games because these young fellas is playing hard, and that Detroit team didn't deserve that, they didn't deserve it, right?

Speaker 4 Cat,

Speaker 4 man, cat down the stretch. That shot that Cat hit from the baseline, falling out of bounds, GP,

Speaker 4 that might have been Cat's best shot of his career. Unreal.
It reminds you of Kawhi Leonard at Toronto. Make that big shot to win the basketball game.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 He made a hell of a shot, man.

Speaker 4 And it is what it is. These are

Speaker 4 switched it. These type of players who make shots like that and ready for it.
It is what it is, man.

Speaker 4 But I just say i hate losing a game on a call from a referee like i just i just don't like that i don't like that let me clear i don't i don't either don't tell me about it a day let let everybody let let social media let everybody say they missed that call but don't you come out with that report hey that wasn't even too real that was the pool reporter

Speaker 4 i hate that see and then you come back after the game and say i missed it man you go you're gonna make me mad more than you know what i'm saying you make me more mad you know what i'm saying?

Speaker 4 I'm mad because I lost, but I know I got fouled and then you're going to tell me I missed it. Come on.
And come on.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It reminds me of that. Uh, that perfect game that Jim Joyce blew.
Anders Galaraga had a perfect game. He beat the guy to the bag, Ocho.
Jim Joyce called him safe, had him out, and

Speaker 4 I'm probably a perfect game. That I'm probably wasn't able to sing.
He cried every time he said it.

Speaker 4 And he was like, Hey, I cost this kid a perfect game. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 And he did.

Speaker 4 Same thing in 85 World Series,

Speaker 4 St. Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 4 I think Donny Durkin was the official. He blew the call.
Roy's goal scored and win the World Series. I mean, you know, you hate things like that.
And you're like, well, Shadow, they are human.

Speaker 4 And they are. They are.
But boy,

Speaker 4 as the team that's on the losing side of that, man, damn, man, I ain't trying to hear that.

Speaker 4 I ain't trying to hear none of that. But you got to give it, look.
Jalen Brunson was clutch performer of the year. You see why.

Speaker 4 You see why he deserved that award. Cat, this is what I'm talking about.
We get frustrated with Cat because we see a guy seven foot tall with so much, excuse me, with so much ability.

Speaker 4 And sometimes he's settled, GP. He wants to hang around the three cat.

Speaker 4 Get your seven foot, big butt down on that block and boast up and shoot that turnaround or put the ball on the floor because you have that accountability and finish at the

Speaker 4 And I, and, and see, Chad,

Speaker 4 that's why I'm so biased, man, because

Speaker 4 my error was we, our weapon was the big man. Put your big button down there and make the dudes pay you, man.
You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 If they double you kick it, we do what we want to. And look how effective he is when he down there.
Stop being a stranger shooting all these threes, man.

Speaker 4 I hate this game because when you running three on one and everybody running to the the three point

Speaker 4 and they miss it well we can make a difference if we get a bucket and put pressure on these dudes man and that's what i like about him he's starting to now say forget it let me go get a bucket and put pressure on these dudes and make them be accountable and say yo you don't have to come down here and score again because if you don't i'm gonna go back down here and score a bucket and get me two it don't matter it ain't number one point.

Speaker 4 Two or three.

Speaker 4 Get it. Go get it.
Because if I go down the floor five times and I score two buckets and they shoot five threes and miss, what I'm up

Speaker 4 nothing.

Speaker 4 It's going to be hard for you to come back. And I'm playing D.

Speaker 4 So that's what I don't.

Speaker 4 But they don't play D no more. They don't play D no more D B.

Speaker 4 That's why I don't like going to these games.

Speaker 4 I hate that. Because I'll be like, man, I'm going to get a steal.
I'm gonna play D, I'm gonna do this, and it's crazy to me that y'all don't want to play defense.

Speaker 4 It's great.

Speaker 4 Nah, they know, ain't nobody. I mean, back then, you had guys known for defense.
Now, everybody tried to put it in the bucket. Everybody tried to get max contract by scored a bunch of points.

Speaker 4 And I get it. I ain't mad at them because I see what his salary is.
And GP, guys make it 40, 50, 60. Joker about to sign a contract three years, 218

Speaker 4 to 19.

Speaker 4 You're gonna get 222. 222.
Okay, 70 million, 70 million a year.

Speaker 4 You look at

Speaker 4 he just got two year deal for 20 two for 120. That's 60 million dollars a year.
So, you know, I get it.

Speaker 4 We set the foundation for them to get all this grade. It is what it is.
We think about it, be like, mama, why you didn't have me laid off? You know what I'm saying? I hear him all the time.

Speaker 4 But he's good for it, man. But I'm just saying, I see dudes making $18, $19 million and only average six points or four points game, and they ain't never made an all-league, all-star, or nothing,

Speaker 4 you know what I'm saying? But we in that era, we're in that era. But go and do something when you get in the game.
Show me that you can play. You know what I'm saying? Don't just get this money, man.

Speaker 4 Show me play. Give me something that you showed me you can play.
You know what I'm saying? Don't just be like, oh, I make this money and it's good. Show me that you can play sometimes.

Speaker 4 The Boston Celtics go up 3-1 with a 107-98 victory over the Orlando Magic. Jason Tatum was sensational.
37 points, 14 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals. Jalen Brown chipped in with 21 points, 11 rebounds.

Speaker 4 Derek White had 18 and 7 and 7.

Speaker 4 Christophe Brzingas had 19 points, 5 rebounds,

Speaker 4 played really well.

Speaker 4 Bancaro had 31.

Speaker 4 Franz Wagner had 24. Corey Joseph had 12, but it wasn't nearly enough.
It was too much JT. It was too much JB.

Speaker 4 And like you said, the others, when you get a Protingas, giving you 19, when you get a Derrick White, giving you 18, your big guns go off, and then you get your role players doing exactly what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 It makes it very, very difficult for you to beat this team. And JT had it going tonight.

Speaker 4 Perfect from the free throw line. JB was 9 or 10 from the free throw line.
Now, Tatum wasn't the most efficient. He's only 10 or 25.

Speaker 4 yeah um but he was putting pressure on them by getting to the free throw line they were 30 or 32 from the free throw line uh orlando was 14 to 20. ocho yeah you watched it you watched the celtics

Speaker 4 um and the goalie game they lost i think is the game that jt didn't play didn't play oh yeah that he hurt his wrists i think at the first game he didn't play and he didn't play but if you look at them now they seem to have it rolling

Speaker 4 you think the celtics can come out of the east i mean obviously you know, they can. I mean, the Celtics are one of the fortunate teams outside of the East.
How are they going to come out of the East?

Speaker 4 Hallelujah.

Speaker 4 Hey, Uncle, they're absolutely coming out the East. And I said, if it wasn't them, it was going to be my heat, but we know how that went.
But the bench,

Speaker 4 we already know what they could do. We already know what White Tatum and Porzingas.
It's the bench, the contribution that they're getting from the bench that's helping also along the way.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, it's almost unfair in a sense, because I see, I see not only them coming out of the East, the East I see them winning again because that because of the depth because of what they have and it's almost unfair to a sense which is why yesterday when we had Antoine on the show we talk about they have new ownership in Boston but why would you want to break up something like that and you know you're going to win consistently year in and year out

Speaker 4 Because I still want to make, yeah, I want to win championships and make money.

Speaker 4 I mean, think about it. You got two guys that's making 300 million.

Speaker 4 You got another two guys that make over 100 million and you got another guy that's making 40 million that's a lot of money ocho even for a channel

Speaker 4 that that's almost a billion dollars so so so what you're doing is oh cho

Speaker 4 that team boston is is very very talented if preving is and all of them and white and then they didn't even have holiday they didn't have holiday so they're very talented Even they got the kid off the bench coming Peyton, who's pretty good.

Speaker 4 Payton pretty much. You know what I'm saying? So they're very, very talented.
You know what I'm saying? So if they can stay together, and that's what you want, that's what we talked about.

Speaker 4 You have to have the role players that can do it. And then you're aiming to

Speaker 4 with Brown and Taylor. If they play well and then you get some support, it's going to be good.

Speaker 4 I think Cleveland can match them. I really do.
I think Cleveland can match them. They went through two with each other.

Speaker 4 And if Cleveland plays the way they're supposed to play, and they get it from Mobile and all them guys,

Speaker 4 and then

Speaker 4 Garland comes in,

Speaker 4 and everybody, Mitchell gonna be him. If they play and match them, they got enough time to match with them.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 but then when you come, even if they make it out of the east, this year it's not gonna be easy. You're not playing Dallas.

Speaker 4 You're playing a full strong team from the West,

Speaker 4 like on OJC.

Speaker 4 Even a Clipper team will match up with them really well. You know what I'm saying? You got teams that could match up with them as talent-wise, but to give them something.

Speaker 4 Dallas didn't have nothing for them last year.

Speaker 4 Dallas just surprised it got into that because of what everybody got hurt. You know what I'm saying? In the West, and all the top teams got hurt.
Even Denver will match up with them very well.

Speaker 4 you know, with Joker and all of them. So it'll be a good, it'll be a better challenge this year.
But I think

Speaker 4 Boston and Cleveland is going to make it hard. Nobody else can compete with them in the East.
It's going to be Boston, Boston or Cleveland. And then in the West, it's wide open.

Speaker 4 Whoever playing well in the West is going to win.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of good teams in the West Coast that's really, really good. You know what I'm saying? So it'll be interesting, but I wouldn't break up my Boston team.

Speaker 4 I'm guaranteed that. See? I don't care.
I'll run it out.

Speaker 4 I'll be like

Speaker 4 Bill Russell and all that cool.

Speaker 4 I'm a winch.

Speaker 4 I don't care.

Speaker 4 I don't give a shit.

Speaker 4 I'm going to put a billion and a half up.

Speaker 4 Let me keep winning.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey, but back then, I owner was paying Bill Russell about his pocket.

Speaker 4 He just spent six billion. You know,

Speaker 4 what's his name? What was the coach?

Speaker 4 Red Arback was doing his thing.

Speaker 4 He was running everything. He didn't care about none of that.
And

Speaker 4 they were playing for pennies, then. They was only playing for like $15,000, $50,000.
You know what I'm saying? So you had that, and they was winning championships.

Speaker 4 So you got to stay that way and sell courts. You know what I'm saying? And then of course it just got sold for $6.2 billion.

Speaker 4 Exactly. So

Speaker 4 I ain't tried to buy, I ain't spending six billion and then put another billion down there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got a billion seeing six billion. So, that owner coming up in there with a seven billion dollar debt already, get out of the standard.
So, they got much, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 So, they're gonna keep it apart, man. I think they're not gonna break that up because they got to get through, especially if they went to a row.
They ain't breaking that up, right?

Speaker 4 They just gonna add pieces and get better

Speaker 4 with uh 37 points in this game. Jason Tatum ties Charles Barkley and Tim Duncan with 11 career 35-point playoff games.
John Morant says

Speaker 4 he had thunder

Speaker 4 figured out, and Memphis would have tied the series if he didn't get hurt.

Speaker 4 You remember a couple of years ago, he said he was fine in the West.

Speaker 4 They haven't won a series since he said that.

Speaker 4 Now, do I believe

Speaker 4 they would have won that game that he got hurt? They were up 27, playing well. They would have win that game.

Speaker 4 But I don't believe they win the series. They're not going to win the series against that talented OKCT.

Speaker 4 I don't care.

Speaker 4 They're too talented. They got, and we look at it, you guys.
They got 10, 11 guys. That's talented.
Yeah. Talented.
Come off there and get it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 And Memphis don't have that type of

Speaker 4 team. No.
They don't have that type of team. I get it.
Morant, before he did all the things that he did and got in trouble, was probably the best basketball player in the NBA. And he said this.
Wow.

Speaker 4 But they got to get somebody that's going to help him more than Jackson and Bank. You know what I'm saying? To compete with these dudes in the West.
I get it. I like Morant's

Speaker 4 mentality. You shouldn't say that.
You shouldn't say if I'm on the floor, I'm going to eat.

Speaker 4 But they wasn't equal to this okayc team they didn't lose four games for nothing you know what i'm saying they didn't lose for game but you gotta understand morant playing to it

Speaker 4 you feel what i'm saying

Speaker 4 so i don't believe in that i i just think they weren't as talented as

Speaker 4 okayc they wasn't as nah not at all i mean listen and i'm listening uh and ngp i'm just trying to throw little nuggets out there you know y'all really not listen to me i'm not saying i'm not woes i'm not shams but what i told y'all early in the show when it does happen i just want y'all to be like you know what ocho but you was right you was right

Speaker 4 yeah you're coming to miami and yan is coming to miami too i'm telling you i sat down and i talked with these folk you know they confide in me when it comes to situations like this even though i didn't play you know um at an nba level but they understand i know the game and i know the players and they know i can take care of people when they come to miami and make sure I keep them aligned and focused on what they need to do when they're here.

Speaker 4 Chad, I'm with you, baby. I'm with you, man.

Speaker 4 Man, if you get them to,

Speaker 4 you know, I'm going to come to Miami and be with you

Speaker 4 and holler at you a lot of times, man. Because if you get to it, I'm stuck with y'all, man.
You're going to be something else. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
You'll see. You'll see.
Listen, I lied for you before I lied to you, man.

Speaker 4 Jalen Green spoke about the exchange between him and Draymond at the end of the game when Draymond told Jalen Green, go paint your nails. Jalen said, just talking.

Speaker 4 He can't really do much anything else. So talking is his only way.

Speaker 4 Hey, GP, did y'all, hey, did

Speaker 4 hide

Speaker 4 because now, I mean, now they throw a tech on you. You guys used to be in all each other's face.
Spitflied everywhere. Now you say one thing.
Oh, yeah. You look at the guy for the cat.

Speaker 4 This is weak basketball, man. Let these dudes play, man.
Let them talk crazy, man. I'm with it.

Speaker 4 I was right there when I seen all of that and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, these dudes ain't really, I'm going to tell y'all, Shannon and Chad, get outside, man, go outside to the restaurant and see them one-on-one. That ain't going to work.

Speaker 4 Get out of here, man. That ain't happening.
You know what I'm saying? Y'all can talk all that, man, and be whatever. Just prove it on the basketball court.
The meat, prove it on the floor.

Speaker 4 Don't get mad at what somebody else say.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Stop him from doing it. It ain't what you say.
That's what I did. That's why I talk crack trash.
I can back it up. If you say something to me, I'm going to give you 40.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you 40, 10, 8, whatever. And then I'm going to be like, yeah, we won.
What's happening? Stop all that. Wah, wah, wah, man, because ain't none of them stuff like that.

Speaker 4 Them dudes ain't no gangsters, man ain't nobody shot no pistols and did all that man in their life man them dudes ain't even on that you know what i'm saying stop being like you you you you really bad you ain't really bad man because if we get your one-on-one somewhere man we knuckle up them dudes ain't gonna be like that ain't gonna be like that man so man just go on and prove it on the flow man and go on about your business you know what i'm saying it is what it is you know and it was legit it's just like if somebody say man i was with your wife last night Yeah, I was with yours last night too.

Speaker 4 That's why I wasn't on.

Speaker 4 You feel what I'm saying? I ain't tripping. Yeah, if you was with her, go be with her.
You feel what I'm saying? Because I was with the course last night, too.

Speaker 4 And while you was thinking about me, you feel what I'm saying? So I'm with it, man. I ain't on that, man.
All that woo-woo-woo. P say he with the end.
Yeah, man, I ain't with that woo-woo-woo.

Speaker 4 Man, go on ahead and prove it on the basketball court, man. And that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 Prove it tomorrow. If you mad, go get it.

Speaker 4 Go get it. You feel me? So that's all I got to say about that.
Go get it.

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Speaker 26 Congratulations to Derricks High School in Derricks, Arkansas, home of the Outlaws and your 2025 T-Mobile Friday night 5G Lights Champion.

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Speaker 4 The prank, the culprit behind the prank, called to Shadura Sander, has been revealed as Jack Olbrick, son of Falcons D.C.

Speaker 4 First, the Falcons put out a statement this morning saying, earlier in the week, Jack Obrick, the 21-year-old son of defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrick, unintentionally

Speaker 4 came across the draft contact phone number for Shadur Sanders off an output iPad while visiting his parents' home and wrote the number down and later conducted and later conduct a prank call.

Speaker 4 Jeff Obrick was unaware of the data exposure and any facet of the prank and was made aware of the above only after the fact.

Speaker 4 Atlanta Falcons do not condone this behavior and send our sincere apologies to Shaddur Sanders and his family, who we've been in contact with, to apologize to, as well as facilitate an apology directly from Jack to the Sanders family.

Speaker 4 We have also been in contact with the NFL and will continue to cooperate fully with any inquiries we may receive from the NFL league office.

Speaker 4 We are thoroughly reviewing all protocols and updating, if necessary, to help prevent an incident like this from happening again. Falcons, Falcons, Jack posted an apology on Friday night.

Speaker 4 I made a tremendous mistake. Shadur, what I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing, and shameful.
I'm so sorry. I took away from your moment.
It was selfish and childish.

Speaker 4 I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your life. And I made a terrible mistake and I messed with that moment.
Thank you for accepting my call earlier today.

Speaker 4 I hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me at Shadur Sanders. Ocho,

Speaker 4 is this apology enough? Or should the Falcons punish? Well,

Speaker 4 I don't know how they can punish the son. They might punish the dad.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So if you were to punish the Falcons, how do you punish them? And

Speaker 4 should they be punished first? And if you are going to punish them, what should the punishment be?

Speaker 4 I mean, listen, I say if you're going to punish them to some extent, I would say it would have to come from the dad. Obviously, it was a son.

Speaker 4 It was the son that made the call obviously dad I'm not sure how the son got the number who knows but the punishment should come should come for the dad maybe maybe a fine of some sort I think draft picks could be a little a little bit too much because the team itself as a whole shouldn't have to have to suffer for what the sons decide to do

Speaker 4 outside of that the apology I mean at that at that at that moment at that point it seems sincere it did it it seems sincere especially being that it was written from someone else and it's it's it no it's just a bunch of you-know-what.

Speaker 4 Um, did he really mean it? No, the fact that he got caught is the only reason he's apologizing.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, you came and you let them record you.

Speaker 4 Oh, they're not sorry. They know what they were doing.
They're young. It was a, it was a prank.
We're in the era of pranks. And like you say, everybody, everybody.

Speaker 4 They're playing too much, OJo.

Speaker 4 Listen, they thought it was a funny moment. They thought it was a funny moment when it really wasn't.
It really wasn't. Before you go, TP, other players also reportedly had prank calls.

Speaker 4 Tyler Warren had a prank call. There were several other players.

Speaker 4 And you see that, like you said, Ocho, we're in that era. Everything is about a prank.
Everybody wants to do a pull something. I fired a lot of people.

Speaker 4 I want to talk somebody, want to do something, dump something on their head. Everybody, like GP, like you've been saying the whole night, everybody don't play how you play.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, when somebody fire you up, then when he have to do that, well, you didn't have to do that. Leave people alone,

Speaker 4 especially people you don't have a relationship with. You're going out there in some mall, or you're walking down the street, you don't know that people from that person from a hill of beans.

Speaker 4 And that's why this social media has messed us up about life

Speaker 4 and everything about this crazy stuff. That little kid knew what he was doing because he went in his daddy's phone and got that phone number.
He did that on purpose.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I hate saying punish your dad because your dad is trusting in you as my son. And I'm trusting you that you won't go do stuff.
That's just like almost stealing, though, y'all.

Speaker 4 That's almost like stealing. Yeah.
It's almost like he's stealing from your people.

Speaker 4 And your dad has to take the blame for what you have done. Because I can't punish you because you're not in the Atlantic, Atlanta Falcons

Speaker 4 organization. So I have to punish your daddy because of the situation because because it hurts that person who you did it to and these young kids today

Speaker 4 and i tell you this generation is different these kids are different they think that's funny and they think that's something to do

Speaker 4 and somebody somebody expense they think this is funny and then when you get caught like chad said the boy ain't sorry because he if he was sorry he would have said he did it from day one and he would have been like that i did it but he got

Speaker 4 And when he got called, he had to say the right thing to make his daddy be okay and look a little bit better.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You look at it. Here's the thing, Ocho.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Shadur Sanders' number, phone number wasn't the only one in there, but he was the one that was having a precipitous fall. So now, which prank is going to generate the most buzz?

Speaker 4 Joe Shadur is on eggshells. He's on pins and needles, waiting to have an NFL team call him and say, Hey, we're going to select you in the fourth round.
We're going to select you in the fifth round.

Speaker 4 So, check this out. He got the number from an iPad that he shouldn't have been using.
He waited days because it ain't just happened. And then he made the prank call.
He filmed himself

Speaker 4 while making the prank calls, waited days to make the apology.

Speaker 4 He wanted to. I mean, look,

Speaker 4 everything ain't mentioned. Like you said,

Speaker 4 in this day and age, OJo, OJo,

Speaker 4 everything is about clicks, like, mentioned. And the viral moment.
That's what it's all about, man. That's why,

Speaker 4 listen, that's why I liked my era. We didn't have all that crap.

Speaker 4 See, I tell

Speaker 4 all the time, I say, I came up, I don't remember me playing no practical jokes on him. Like, boy, you ain't, you better

Speaker 4 do that because next time we see you, we're going to knock you out. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't going to be about, man, okay, man, I'm going to take this court date, man.

Speaker 4 No, man, I'm going to knock you smooth out. Because we ain't talking about all that.
Because you messing with my livelihood about all this, this social media, all that crap, man. We ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm glad I didn't come up in that area.

Speaker 4 I'm glad. Now, look, I would have loved to make the money that these cats make.

Speaker 4 But GP, I wouldn't want to be in this era. It's too much.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't want to be in the social media area.

Speaker 4 I'm going to tell y'all, i don't want to be in the social media area because i i would have been divorced way earlier than what i did and all

Speaker 4 i would have been all bad man

Speaker 4 i would have been man i would have been viral all the time you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 but you man every day you walk out man you're going to like man is a capital man all day and they're looking at man man i ain't on that man what are what is a like

Speaker 4 to me I don't care about no likes, man. I'm already popular.
You know know what I'm saying? I don't care if you give me a million likes, a million people are already looking at me. So what?

Speaker 4 I don't care about all that, man. You messing up my life, man.
And I'm not dealing with that, though. It's crazy to me that you can sit on the phone

Speaker 4 and watch people do what they do. And they silly.
You just told me, and I ain't surprised. That boy got in that iPad and then filmed himself doing it.
How How stupid is that?

Speaker 4 How do you think that we ain't going to figure that out?

Speaker 4 Yeah. How do you think we ain't going to get that?

Speaker 4 That's how dudes get caught killing people, murder, whatever they doing. They, man, they go back to y'all phone.
Doing foolishness. Go back to your phone.
And you got the pistol showing it.

Speaker 4 And they're on this and that.

Speaker 4 That's how they catch you.

Speaker 4 It's just silly. So that's why I tell a lot of kids that I talk to now,

Speaker 4 the social media is is killing y'all, man. It's hurting y'all.

Speaker 4 It's hurting your life, man, because all y'all think about is likes and who's going to like you on there. That's how people get robbed and do stuff.
You build a thing, talk about I'm here, I'm there.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden they look in the back. Oh, man, he had Centennial Park.
Let me ride up on him right now. Let me ride up on that.
That's crazy to me, man, that you do that. That's just silly.

Speaker 4 That's just silly stuff to me.

Speaker 4 Dang.

Speaker 4 Shadur pinned his first

Speaker 4 both on NFL X and IG accounts. If you go to both at NFL and Brown's official websites, click shop.
Who's the first Cleveland Brown jersey you can pre-order? Shadur's.

Speaker 4 Many NFL fans on TikTok have pledged to purchase Shadur's jersey and merchandise exclusively from his official website rather than from the NFL shop to support him after being drafted in the fifth round.

Speaker 4 They believe the league blackballs shador shadur could potentially make millions of dollars from this trend and you'll probably see other players you know oh you got it hey yeah i'm proud of you do what you know ocho yeah you'd have had your little cap you'd have had the ocho gear going

Speaker 4 and that's and that's good and and look at guys look look both of y'all you know it's daddy daddy gonna make that up you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 deon dick did that man and that's what they're gonna do they gonna just show up everybody what what they did to him.

Speaker 4 Y'all know that boy shouldn't have got drafted in no fifth round. He shouldn't have been in a 444th kick.
No,

Speaker 4 I think you go from projected to be number nine, 144.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. And then the teams that were supposed to draft you

Speaker 4 pass you. And then the team who drafted him had it at the 33rd day in the second round.

Speaker 4 And they didn't beat.

Speaker 4 You see, it's got to be a black ball thing. We ain't going to never know why what happened or why it happened, but it happened.
But to me,

Speaker 4 I just tell my little young, young nephew, man, go out there and kill him. And then win the job.

Speaker 4 Get down with him, man. Be one of them special ones like Marino, like Brett Ford, man.

Speaker 4 Do that, man. They got drafted like that and then become all the famous and become one of them dudes.
That's all you got to do, man. Forget it.

Speaker 4 And then make your bread, man, the way you is because he popular man

Speaker 4 this social media got here popular he's gonna be popular no matter what

Speaker 4 he's gonna be popular yeah so just do it

Speaker 4 i i think i think it's a blessing in disguise obviously going in the fifth round and the pick he went is not the blessing i'm talking about i'm just saying the situation he's going to flacco uh is is just there on the one-year deal deshaun watson's not going to be able to play this year so i'm assuming the way i'm thinking and thinking it's going to play out i think he will be able to beat out Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 And I think he's going to get a shot. He's going to get a shot to play.
I'm not sure if it's this year, maybe it's next year, but that's somebody going to get his shot.

Speaker 4 And I think it's going to be magical for him. And seeing it as a blessing in the skies and finding out.

Speaker 4 You know why? Because look how much pressure they put on Bronny James.

Speaker 4 Bronny James, you'd have thought Bronny James was the first pick in the draft. The way they talk about him and talking about oh, he this, he did.

Speaker 4 He was the 55th pick. They ain't got but five picks left, GP.

Speaker 4 They make it seem like they took the man, but because because of that last name you got to understand if his name was shadure jones maybe you're right right but we know who his dad is and we know what that dad that aura around that dad i can't agree with you i gotta agree with with with uh chad on this one because that's a little bit of different talent my little nephew ronnie wasn't really really ready for that that situation for that that athletic ability ability right he had to grow into that he forgot he missed the whole college oh yeah yeah with the whole

Speaker 4 thing you know what happened or whatever but shakur is ready he

Speaker 4 he got the talent to do that right now and if you think of bronnie right now ronnie killing the g league he had to get himself into that situation do it right bron be good in two three years

Speaker 4 I think Shadur is going to be ready now.

Speaker 4 I was saying because of the names.

Speaker 4 What I was just saying, because of the names and the expectations. Even though he's a fifth-round pick, and oh, Joe, you know, we don't have no expectations for no fifth-round pick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, right, right. But you do because your last name is Sandra.
Just like we got expectations now for the 55th pick. It's just like Jokic.
When Jokic got drafted,

Speaker 4 if they're lying, if they told they, well, I knew Yoki was going to be this. If you knew he was going to be this, you'd have took him with the number one overall pick.

Speaker 4 So you did lie saying you knew Nicola Jokic was going to turn out to be what he was going to be because he was a second-round pick. I think he was like 40-something.
It's the same thing.

Speaker 4 So you put pressure. You say it should do it, should do it, should do it.
Here's a fifth-round pick. You're going to bypass that and say, well, look at his last name.

Speaker 4 I thought y'all said he was all this. Yeah.
Brianna going to the fifth. Oh, if he all that, he should be able to do like his dad.

Speaker 4 You don't have all them picks. Now we're going back to our fourth, fourth round, five round two, like the NFL.
Then he got picked like that. Then it's a little different.
He only got six picks.

Speaker 4 So he got picked because the simple fact is, is the Lakers had that pick.

Speaker 4 And it wasn't for LeBron being on the Lakers and they making that pick, he probably wouldn't have got drafted, which would have been no problem. You know what I'm saying? But we only got two rounds.

Speaker 4 You know what I'm saying? They got.

Speaker 4 And half of the two and half the figure by GP don't even do it. See what I'm saying? So it's a little different of what we're saying.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 We don't know if he would have got drafted if the Lakers didn't have that 55th pick. You feel what I'm saying? Right.
But they did pick him, which was a blessing because his talent.

Speaker 4 He is very, very talented. And you got to get him a chance.

Speaker 4 Football players got seven rounds. They got to, they don't do that.
They don't do that. So we're happy that they do got these types of rounds.

Speaker 4 But if basketball would have had five to six, seven rounds, and he got drafted in the fifth or sixth round, we wouldn't be expecting to be nothing because what you said before

Speaker 4 he might not even make a team.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing, GP: Once you start getting Ocho, you could, you don't know anything about this because you're a second rounder.

Speaker 4 You start getting fifth, sixth, fifth, and sixth, seventh round, you can't buy it.

Speaker 4 We need, hey, oh Joe, wait, we can't, hey, we need people. Hey, we just need enough to fill the roster.
Yeah, it ain't no guarantee when you start getting the money.

Speaker 4 Y'all know y'all first three rounds is almost like first round picks with us.

Speaker 4 Yeah, basically, yeah. You want it in the NFL, the first three rounds, you start.

Speaker 4 You start in the NFL. You feel what I'm saying? You're basically going to start in the field if you get paid.
You picked in the first three rounds. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 In basketball, if you pick 55, 60, you in a G League, 10-day contract, or whatever, you're going to

Speaker 4 give you a deal. Yeah.
And you got to look at Bronny. He got a heck of a deal.

Speaker 4 Oh, he got the money guaranteed. But he is not the first, but he is not the first second rounder to get money guaranteed, though, Jane.
That's right. Because people believe in other things.

Speaker 4 But then you think about it like this, Shannon. What if I don't pick you and then pick you up at the 3-8 and then she'll give you some guaranteed money?

Speaker 4 That's all nothing. No, I want the guaranteed money right here.
You want to go pick me up and give me that kind of guaranteed money. So I'll go ahead and take this right here.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey.

Speaker 4 You heard me?

Speaker 4 Yeah, what you're saying, what y'all?

Speaker 4 I don't think

Speaker 4 you're not seeing it from the same lens I'm seeing it at. I'm looking at the situation in its totality, right? Okay.
Okay. Okay.
You win fifth round. Now, I look at it.

Speaker 4 I look at the landscape of what they got. They got Flacco.
Flacco not going to be that long. Deshaun, Deshaun is hurt.
He's coming off of Achilles injury.

Speaker 4 I see, I think, no disrespect to Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel. I see him beating him out.
So I see Shadur as a number two quarterback with Flacco playing.

Speaker 4 Now, depending on how Flacco plays throughout the entirety of the season, there's a chance chance that Shadur, he goes to the helm. I say it's a blessing in the sky.
So what happens?

Speaker 4 We look at the quarterback, the quarterback Carol seller quarterbacks that the Browns have had throughout the entirety of their franchise. 40 of them.
The last decent quarterback they had. 40 of them.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 a lot of them.

Speaker 4 The last good one that was consistent was Bernie Cozar. Yes.
So I'm looking long term. And before that, it was Otto Graham.
Yeah. Hey, I'm looking long term.
This might be a blessing in the sky.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure. Despite,

Speaker 4 so I'm just looking at it like that. And knowing him and knowing the competitor that Shadur is, understanding the background and what he's come from, he's able to deal with this adversity.
And again,

Speaker 4 hurdle this option as well.

Speaker 4 And this situation, listen, this situation for him, AGP, delayed, not denied. Chad, I'm on your side.
I think Shadur is going to be their quarterback. for the next six, seven years.

Speaker 4 And he's going to be good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say, I'm going to say

Speaker 4 Decade.

Speaker 4 I can say kid too, because I think he's going to go in there and show out. You're going to go in there and show out.
And I think he got a chip on his shoulder now.

Speaker 4 Daddy, him and his daddy done talked about it. Go in there and get out with what you're going to get out of.
And I'm guaranteed he's going to go in there. And I don't need to care about Flacco.

Speaker 4 He's going to hold.

Speaker 4 Man, if you fool around and be moving and doing what you do, man, and pass that thing, get first first down or whatever. Them Cleveland Browns ain't been nothing in a long time, anyway.

Speaker 4 If you can get some people in them stands and getting people hype, Shannon, you just said it.

Speaker 4 His jersey is the number one in Cleveland right now, man.

Speaker 4 What y'all think? Yeah, what y'all think, man? That's going to happen. I think he's going to show up.
And that's what he should do. He should go in there and show up.

Speaker 4 Show up. Yep.
Yeah. And it's

Speaker 4 Abdul Carter responded to us on Twitter this afternoon.

Speaker 4 I wore number 11. I have big shoes.
I feel big shoes before. If you know football, you know who also wore the stick, which means 11.
Yeah. It's not about the number.
It's about the player.

Speaker 4 The number, just the legacy. It's iconic.
Something cool. Look at the legacy of the stick.
I came to Penn State and not only lived up to that number, but I made it even more legendary.

Speaker 4 That's how I see it. I shot.
If he says no, cool. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 But I spoke to LT on the phone yesterday. She'll do.
Dope. Speaking with the GOAT and know for certain, 56 or not, I'll build my own legacy.

Speaker 4 I don't, a la, I think he said, I think it's saying praise to God or something like that. Right.
Abdul.

Speaker 4 We said that. I mean, when we had you on the couch, it would appreciate it again.
I don't think Ocho and I and Nightcap, the family, thank you enough for coming by. Yes, sir.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 Hey, Bailey, thank you. Drew, we appreciate that because I Bailey, I played with Bailey

Speaker 4 for two years in B-more. And Drew Rosenhaus, probably his first start, he was down at the blue, uh, at the East Blue Gray game in Montgomery, Alabama, Ocho, in 1989.
So, oh, yeah, so it goes back.

Speaker 4 So, Abdul, I want to thank you for coming on. Ocho, I want to thank you.
Uh, thank you, Drew Rosenhaus, and uh, Bailey, Robert Bailey, for making that happen.

Speaker 4 Yes, we highlighted

Speaker 4 that number was made famous by LaVar Arrington. That man was then followed by Michael Parsons, and then you took it.

Speaker 4 As great as those players were, wearing that number 11 at Penn State,

Speaker 4 you can't even fathom.

Speaker 4 Because let me tell you what happened. Every outside linebacker you see is because of LT.

Speaker 4 The Von Millers, the TJ Watts, the Derrick Thomases, the Cornelius Bennett's, all these, the Leonard Flores, you name an outside edge rusher.

Speaker 4 He's the only player in NFL history to make two positions famous. He made the left tackle famous.
He made the outside linebacker famous. Two.

Speaker 4 When we talk about who's the greatest cornerback, you get some debates. Some people say Payton.
Some people say Montana. Some people say Brady.
Not going to fight you.

Speaker 4 That's not what we're here to do today. If we say who's the greatest wide receiver, you get some people say Jerry.
Some people say Randy Moss. Some people say T.O.

Speaker 4 If we say who's the best running back, some people say Jim Brown. Some people say Walter Payton.
Emma Smith, Barry Sanders.

Speaker 4 When you say who is the greatest defensive NFL player ever, there's one name that comes out of everybody's mouth first. L.T.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 he goes by initials. They don't call him Lawrence.
They call him LT.

Speaker 4 That's all we're saying. So I get the sticks, but 5'6

Speaker 4 in New York.

Speaker 4 He was coward.

Speaker 4 And that's my, and that's my OG.

Speaker 4 That's my OG. Every time I see him, I'm with him.

Speaker 4 I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. He had that autograph.

Speaker 4 I'll be seeing him on the side now. You know what I know?

Speaker 4 That's my dude, man. That was the greatest defensive player ever.

Speaker 4 And there's been some great ones. And I'm fortunate enough to play in the era.
I played in the era with Reggie at his prime. Bruce Smith at his prime.
Ray Lewis at his prime.

Speaker 4 Deion, Coach Prime, at his prime.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about guys that one defensive player of the year, multiples.

Speaker 4 He's it.

Speaker 4 It's different. He made two positions.

Speaker 4 Famous. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think it's different. I think it's different.
But this is what I do like about Abdul.

Speaker 4 The confidence.

Speaker 4 I feel,

Speaker 4 the belief. I feel I can wear that 56 and do it justice.
Despite LT being the greatest defensive player of all time. That's what makes Abdul who he is right now.

Speaker 4 That's why he was drafted, where he was drafted, when he wore the sticks, when he was at Penn State.

Speaker 4 The belief, the confidence, on not only that, in between them lines, the skill set to be able to pull it off. So the mere fact that he's coming in with

Speaker 4 that kind of cash in attitude, I feel like I could wear that 56 in New York and do right by it.

Speaker 4 How I feel about myself and my skill set. I don't even want it.
As a matter of fact, I ain't even going to get a 50 number because they might say I'm close to 56. I might be close to it.

Speaker 4 I don't want it. I'm going to give me a, I'm going to get me a, I'll go back and get that level.

Speaker 4 I'll go back and get get a single number zero this is what this is what shannon say man look here man i don't even want that number man i don't even want to live up none of that man let me go on number man get out

Speaker 4 he's legendary

Speaker 4 you can't do it on legendary number man don't even mess with that don't even be talking about all that man to put yourself in that situation man just go on the world

Speaker 4 do what you did and get out you feel what i'm saying yeah get out yeah you know what i'm saying if you hear the story about lt lt late lt late for the plane LT gets out the car, throws his keys to the valet, say, I'll be back here Sunday.

Speaker 4 Pick me up. And the guy picks him up on Sunday.

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Speaker 4 ALT, he's driving to New York. Oh, Oh, Joe, he's driving.
He's like, damn, they got the lance holding John State. He's supposed to be playing it.

Speaker 4 Hey, we

Speaker 4 on NFL film, man, Bill Belichick told a story one day about starting the meeting, starting a meeting, and the head guy, I don't remember who the head coach at the time. Parcels was the head guy.

Speaker 4 So Bill Belichick, I think Bill must have went to Parcells and said something about, you know, well, LT, you know, he showed up, he showed up late to a meeting and he wasn't there.

Speaker 4 And so Parcells asked him, well, did you start the meeting on time or did you wait for him to get there? He said, no, I just waited for him to get there. Well, that's the good thing.

Speaker 4 Because the meeting don't start until LT get there. I mean,

Speaker 4 what do we talk about here? Like, that's, I was like, what?

Speaker 4 It's like, now, Ocho. Guys, you got an opportunity to see Tom Brady.
If you're old enough, you get an opportunity to see Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 If you weren't old enough, you didn't see Joe and those come from behind victories and you didn't see L. Way and Marino and Flake.

Speaker 4 So I don't think people realize because they see TJY and they see Aaron.

Speaker 4 Think about it. This man won the MVP of the league as a defensive player.

Speaker 4 Of the league. Different, man.

Speaker 4 He was LT, what was LT, like a 10-time all-pro, like eight or nine first-team.

Speaker 4 Jesus. Do you know how hard it is to be that?

Speaker 4 A first team.

Speaker 4 I think Brady has three first team all-pros. Those are the seasons that he won the MVP.
Let that sink in for a second.

Speaker 4 Aaron Donald was, I think, an eight-time first-team all-pro in 10 seasons. I think LT had that many, but LT had like, I think he went like six or seven in a row.

Speaker 4 Carl Banks, somebody beat him out, and then he went to another two or three. How many first-team all-pros did LT have? Eight first team?

Speaker 4 How many consecutive? Seven.

Speaker 4 He was eight, first team, and how many second team?

Speaker 4 One or two,

Speaker 4 but I but look, Abdul, I think I think you're gonna be a phenomenal player. Go strike, yo, go, go, get your, um,

Speaker 4 go build your own legacy

Speaker 4 because you're there. I mean,

Speaker 4 think, think about it. I don't care what quarter you think, Joe Burrow gonna go to New England saying, let me get that 12.

Speaker 4 But, but, but, but, Shannon, we shouldn't even be talking about this, and the giants giants should be like, man, you can't have it now.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, hey, hey, GP. You can't even have it now.

Speaker 4 GP, in that media market, you know how New York media is. You know, they don't play.
You don't play.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, you don't that 56

Speaker 4 and understand what comes behind that or even having it on your, having it on.

Speaker 4 I don't want that.

Speaker 4 That man is a love.

Speaker 4 Listen, I'm, and you know how I am, GP. You know how I am.
I don't care what what nobody says, especially the media, because I'm acting fool.

Speaker 4 But I wouldn't even, I'm just saying, if, hypothetically speaking, I don't want what comes behind that 56 wearing it every Sunday at one o'clock. Uh-uh.
No, sir. No, sir.

Speaker 4 Like I said, they shouldn't even think about giving it to me. Man, go in here, man.
This is your jersey, man. It's in your locker.
You wear them.

Speaker 4 They already got it.

Speaker 4 Just hanging the jersey up in his locker room. And say, you got 11.
He is what it is, man. Don't even come to my office, talk about 56.

Speaker 4 And then I send LT and bring him to the thing and say, boy, you know better than that. I'll do it.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Let's talk.

Speaker 4 LT good. LT respect.
LT's like, yeah, I appreciate it. But

Speaker 4 I'll be like, if you've been around LT. I've been around LT.
I don't know how much you've been around LT, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Hold on. Hold on.
Hey, that's a good one. Me and L T, we be at Twin Peaks.
I'm saying you can see the pictures. I see him all the time.

Speaker 4 He's coming off the golf course, yes, coming there, smoking cigars with his buddies. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him.
That's him. That's all you want to do is golf and smoke.
And

Speaker 4 I see him in about two weeks.

Speaker 4 Anthony Anderson's a golf benefit, baby. So, yeah, I see him all the time with signage and everything.
That's my guy. So, you know what I'm saying, man.
LT ain't worried about that.

Speaker 4 LT was going to tell that boy, you ain't going to never compare to me.

Speaker 4 Everybody got to understand. Put your name or your picture next to me.

Speaker 4 You can't, it ain't going to never be another LT. I don't care what nobody says.
Right. You understand me? Just put your picture next to us and we be good.
Yeah. You know, the job

Speaker 4 in that situation.

Speaker 4 You know what I do?

Speaker 4 Hold on, before we go, before you go, I just want to say this about Abdul Carter. You know what I do like, though, GP and

Speaker 4 the confidence, though. Yeah.
Oh, I love that. Hey,

Speaker 4 there's something in players that don't have that we had back in the day, GP. You talked about it earlier, you know, as far as supporting cash, you know, role players and all that.

Speaker 4 young bull got defense just for the mere fact he even had the gall and the ball to say I want to even wear that 50

Speaker 4 what does that tell you what that tell you about him

Speaker 4 aaron donald won three defensive players a year so did jj watt yeah and ain't nobody said they're better than lt

Speaker 4 and we watching them in this era yeah

Speaker 4 So now remember now when LT played, they didn't throw the football like they throw it now. Right.
He didn't have the chances to go out to hunt the quarterback like they do now.

Speaker 4 They put a special, Joe Gibbs put a special offense in

Speaker 4 just to deal with LT.

Speaker 4 He put the H-back in.

Speaker 4 He said, I want to put somebody over here with the left tackle

Speaker 4 so I can help on LT. They'll help him out.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's when you know, when they put it, when they design a special offense to deal with you.

Speaker 4 If you couldn't block him, you couldn't beat the Giants. Go back and look at the 80s and look at the left tackles that got drafted in the first round.

Speaker 4 Jim Lachey, and they go get Herb Eatman, they go get Gary Zimmerman, they get Steve Wallace. Go back and look

Speaker 4 and see what they did just to deal with this man. An 82-year-old man runs a 16.0200 meters.
Let's check out the video, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Let's go, boy.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 4 Hey, Uncle.

Speaker 4 You won't now dare.

Speaker 4 You won't dare day of it.

Speaker 4 Hey, do me a favor, man. Do me a favor.
Like, I'm not trying to be funny. Even at 57 right now, me, at 57, right now, I'm still faster than 87% of the NFL and they in their 20s.
Don't do me like that.

Speaker 4 That man does you. What? That man kicked Duff up in your face.
Man, please, man.

Speaker 4 Shannon, you saying that Oto slowed out?

Speaker 4 What if that man, that man, what he 80? He's not slow. The 82, you're off.
That 82, you told. If you let that man beat you, I disown you.

Speaker 4 Man, listen.

Speaker 4 Nah, listen.

Speaker 4 I give, I'm not sure who that's. Listen, congratulations, being able to run a 16 16 whatever in 100 meters i give him 30 meters and come get him go get him

Speaker 4 i give him 30 meters come get him oh joe i'm like oh

Speaker 4 you can't give him five meters and come get it man stock uh stocks no don't be don't don't be disrespectful i got five oh

Speaker 4 he can beat you hey hey uh shadow i picked that bet

Speaker 4 i i i i ojo go get him

Speaker 4 hey uh can you hey he can beat you up he i Oh, yeah, he gets me. I ain't ran in 16 years.
Yeah, he gets me. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hell, that a 90-year-old woman to get me. Yeah,

Speaker 4 ain't no shame.

Speaker 4 Y'all, if you, hey, y'all not finna get me out there to pull my hamstring at 57, bear a pea leaves or blow somebody. Nah, I'm good.
I done ran my last race. You hit me.

Speaker 4 Hey, these two be talking about go race. I said, man, y'all crazy as heck.
Y'all want me to be limping for the next year? I ain't dealing with nothing. I don't go with nobody.
No.

Speaker 4 Hey, GP, you don't play no, you ain't playing no basketball. You don't hoop at all no more? Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 Okay, my bad.

Speaker 4 Man, I'm banging them.

Speaker 4 If it's two seconds or three seconds, I'm

Speaker 4 coach now. I show them to him.
I might run like two, three seconds, and I'm done. I ain't doing none of that.
I ain't doing none of that.

Speaker 4 Okay, okay. I'll fit it out for the C if you want to play one-on-one one-on-one because that got me a nice little hit list absolutely

Speaker 4 you're gonna you're gonna keep watching them um them go-go's google me

Speaker 4 google me

Speaker 4 google me

Speaker 4 you ain't get nothing from me google me you're said

Speaker 4 get me when there was that time you're shed me i tell them all hey shannon i do like this baby look here man in my day it was 30 teams there was 29 of them jerseys that you can go get.

Speaker 4 If you would have got one of them, I would have gave it to you every day. You understand me right now? I ain't giving you nothing.

Speaker 4 I ain't got that for you. All right, we're going to get y'all.
We're going to get out of here on this. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 4 Hey, that was a good one, boy. That nigga said, Google, Google me.

Speaker 4 10-1-7 boogie, Luca, Chalupa, Bazooka, Wolves in five.

Speaker 4 Running back said, Lakers and eight. And eight?

Speaker 4 How many guys are there? That's going to be next year, too.

Speaker 4 True info for 73, Austin Reeves, mac and cheese, strip teas, Lakers and Cancun.

Speaker 4 Hey, but they owe you, Uncle. Lady Ray, Cocker Spaniel, Randall McDaniel, Jade McDaniels, Wolves and five.

Speaker 4 LeBron legs, Bionic leg, turkey legs.

Speaker 4 Wolves and five. Man, y'all need to go ahead and hold you.
Y'all laughing now, but we got something for you. King KO 2.0.
Full moon, afternoon, Lakers going to Cancun.

Speaker 4 Wolves and five.

Speaker 4 Big two, Big Dollar 201.

Speaker 4 Demi Wolf, Werewolf, Timberwolf, don't matter.

Speaker 4 Lakers and Selfer. There you go.
That's what I'm talking about right there. There you go.

Speaker 4 Adab Smith, messed up, not resting at starters, but the Wolves are a better team. Series is over.
Lakers can't play no better than that.

Speaker 4 Adab, I don't think they can play any better than that, but maybe they can play defense better than that.

Speaker 4 Pat Dubb, GP, when you were playing in Miami, did you really scratch Pat Riley plays because you didn't feel like running them? I didn't. I didn't run nothing.
I wasn't listening to nobody.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was the only one on the team.

Speaker 4 Look at him. When he let me take over that basketball team and talked to all them players, I went to Shaq and I said, Shaq, look here, man.

Speaker 4 We got a young cuckoo down here, man. Let that boy do what he got to do.
And look what happened. We won a championship.
My

Speaker 4 male, we ain't listening to all that, man. We got a championship.
Pat do what he was in, what it was. He let me do what I got to do.
We won a championship, and that was all.

Speaker 4 Jason Bourne said, Glove, what were you and Malone barking at each other during the 2000 playoffs? Your cuz over from Richmond.

Speaker 4 Will y'all play Utah? Would y'all play y'all? Utah, y'all play Utah that year, Pate?

Speaker 4 The GP froze.

Speaker 4 We'll come back. We're asking that.
Just there, Uncle Noto and GP. Hey, GP, I don't know how much play, how, how, how much about playoffs from the older NBA.

Speaker 4 Is there any guards from the 80s and 90s that you played like you?

Speaker 4 Thanks.

Speaker 4 He first. Come back to that one.

Speaker 4 GP on that AOL, that dial-up.

Speaker 4 OUSS 2004. Unknown Ocho moving with me.

Speaker 4 Is there any truth? Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 He's like, you and Malone barking at each other during the 2000 playoffs, your cousin from Richmond. No, we was just barking with him, man.
You know, call my boy. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I ain't going to back down from nobody. He says something crazy.
I'm going to say something back to him man we just doing what we do i told him i was gonna bust his

Speaker 4 and he said he was gonna get back at me so i said

Speaker 4 it is what it is it is what it is what it is yeah

Speaker 4 uh gp say i don't know much about the players from older nba is there any guards from the 80s and 90s that played like you thanks Ain't nobody played like me.

Speaker 4 I'm the only original one.

Speaker 4 I was a two-way guard. I was a big guard.
It was all good.

Speaker 4 If we're going to say this year during this era i'd say uh drew holiday played just like me you know he scored he played on the defensive end he was one of them dudes but in my era nobody played like me

Speaker 4 but you know what gp i will say this in the 80s and 90s all them guards posted your ass up except josh stock yeah yeah but you know what but jamming i was a big guard you remember i was the one oh yeah yeah yeah they started putting mitch richmond on me with his old big old strong butt and he uh

Speaker 4 i was getting all bad during that time. I had to start spinning off on me.
Then they put this on me and he was too big.

Speaker 4 But it was good, man.

Speaker 4 I used to like going to every arena because we had a guard that can deal with each other. You know what I'm saying? They had a guard

Speaker 4 on every team that was really, really good.

Speaker 4 OUSS 2004, Uncanocho moving away from basketball. Is there any truth to Shadur answering FaceTime calls during the draft process interviews? A former GM said this today.

Speaker 4 And they just, why they making up this stuff, man.

Speaker 4 Players don't even have a phone in them in them in them in the meetings, man, when they're doing that, man. All this bullshit.
No, man. You don't even have your phone when you go in the meeting rooms.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Florida said,

Speaker 4 do you prefer quarterback seven or 18? GP, could James Harrison make Ocho tap out? I play with seven,

Speaker 4 so I appreciate what Peyton came to do, and I appreciate I love Peyton, but, man, I ain't taking nobody over seven.

Speaker 4 Yeah, James is going to make Ocho tap out.

Speaker 4 I'm going to beat James Harrison ass, man. Don't play at me, man.

Speaker 4 Play me, man.

Speaker 4 I'm on whatever he is.

Speaker 4 I'm going with Chad. You know,

Speaker 4 that's my running back, babe. You know what I'm saying? He's people, man.
I'm dealing with him.

Speaker 4 I'll put my little bit of money left with a little bit of money on James Harrison. You see,

Speaker 4 see, you want me to pay you back, but then you do stuff like this.

Speaker 4 I got to put a bow down on your Danny, you hate me,

Speaker 4 boy. You hate no one.

Speaker 4 Hey, that's fine. Hey, GP, I will let James knock his ass out, then I'm going to go in his pockets and get my money.
All right. What are you talking about, Marshall?

Speaker 4 Oh, the karate thing, man. Knock you out money, then call his pockets and take it out.
God damn.

Speaker 4 Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy said, oh. You ever notice when someone owe you money, every word they say is, huh? How was your day? Huh? What did you eat for lunch?

Speaker 4 What about my money? Yeah, that's Ocho.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He owed me $5,980 American dollars.
Yeah, yeah. And listen, you know, time's hard in this economy, boy.

Speaker 4 I'm going to get it to you. I'm going to get it to you.

Speaker 4 Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

Speaker 4 Y'all know me. I'm your favorite auk, my partner, my co-host, Liberty City's own, bingo ring of fame honoree, the Pro Bowler.
That's Chad Ocho Seco Johnson.

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Speaker 4 Seattle Supersonic, great.

Speaker 4 His jersey is retired. Hey,

Speaker 4 if Seattle come back and they get a team, and if somebody comes and say, hey, GP, let me get that number 20. What's up? Man, they crazy as heck, man.
I ain't even.

Speaker 4 You ain't going to even try to get out of my number, man. That's over.
They'll say, no, you ain't getting, no, go somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? I ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 Supersonic

Speaker 4 Great. Miami won a chip with the Dalton with the Heat.
Won a gold medal. One of the 75th greatest players in NBA history.
GP Gary Payton.

Speaker 4 Oh, you were, yeah, you were in 96 and 2000. I got two of them things, Shannon.
I got two of them to hold them medals, man. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 I got two of them things.

Speaker 4 Two-time gold medal winner,

Speaker 4 NBA champ, Gary Payton, thank you for joining us.

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