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Speaker 4 no you went in the first year together okay 23 2 23 yeah this is Chad Ojo Sinko Johnson thank you guys

Speaker 4 oh wait a minute wait a minute can you hear me

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Speaker 4 I said repeat after me

Speaker 4 Hello?

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Speaker 4 fucking love you.

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Speaker 4 The Tennessee, look,

Speaker 4 this is the worst kept secret in America, guys.

Speaker 4 When they canceled all the other pre-draft workouts and said, after they worked out, Cam Ward, they...

Speaker 4 Travis, thank you. Thank you, but no, thank you.
Judo, thank you, but no thank you. All those other guys, I think they would settle their guy.

Speaker 4 When you become this set on your guy, you have him targeted, you've been watching him for a long period of time. You want this guy to come in and start.

Speaker 4 This is not, well, let's see, wait till the last minute. Let's look at a couple of other guys, Ocho.
This is the guy they targeted. This is the guy they want.

Speaker 4 They believe this is the guy that's going to be their Steve McNair, get them back in playoff contention year after year, get them to a Super Bowl. What is it that you like so much about Cam Ward?

Speaker 4 I like what Cam was able to do from the Hurricanes. Able to have UM back to the Surgeons to where they were a top team that usually offensive looked very good.

Speaker 4 See him as a trans

Speaker 4 talent or a generational talent or a technical type.

Speaker 4 I like what he's been able to do, so I'm not sure what's going to happen once he gets there. Obviously, he's their answer, and he's supposed to be the answer for the next 10 years.

Speaker 4 Similar to what Jayden Daniels did for the Commanders, I'm excited. You know what I like most about Cam Ward? Adversity.
Yes. He just didn't go to one university.
He started at Mackie.

Speaker 4 He goes all over the place, and then he settles in at the University of Miami. You want guys that have had adversity in their life.

Speaker 4 You want guys that have gone through things, struggle, because it's going to be a struggle. Yes.
At some point in time, you're going to face adversity as a quarterback or even a player in the NFL.

Speaker 4 And having gone through that adversity, he knows what it's like to fall on hard times, pick himself up, and start back down there.

Speaker 4 I have a question for you. Yes.
If Cam Ward does go number one, is he a day one starter or is a quarterback competition with Will Levison in camp?

Speaker 4 Well, they'll say it's a quarterback competition, but Cam Ward, because they singled him out so long ago, Ojo, they didn't bring anybody else in.

Speaker 4 They knew they wanted a quarterback, and they knew in order for you to win in this league, you got to have a quarterback.

Speaker 4 The reason, think about it. Why is it a quarterback competition? We're picking number one overall because the quarterback that's on the roster wasn't any good.
Or it wasn't very good.

Speaker 4 Let's be real with it. Because if he was that good, they wouldn't be picking this high.
Yes.

Speaker 4 The mere fact that they're picking this high and they're taking a quarterback tells you they want to transition and go to Cam Ward. Now, what happened if the Titans pull a wool over our eyes?

Speaker 4 They have everybody thinking they're taking Cam Ward first and they pull a wool and do something else with the first pick of the draft.

Speaker 4 I don't believe they're going to do anything different, Ocho. Let me tell you why.

Speaker 4 They've been seemed like they've been set on this pick for such a long time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and when you're picking this high and you're going to guarantee this guy somewhere between 40 and 45 million, his contract is going to be fully guaranteed.

Speaker 4 I would have liked to thought that if you wanted, it was thinking about going somewhere else, you bring somebody else in, talk to him, get a feel for him.

Speaker 4 They could. They could.
Right. But I don't believe that's the case.
I believe Cam Ward is their guy. This is the funny thing about it.

Speaker 4 If you have the number one pick, you really don't have to talk to anybody else because you already know who you're taking, regardless. We don't know what their plans are, especially in the war room.

Speaker 4 Sometimes you know how they play. You never know is a chess match.
So I'm curious. I'm excited.
If Cam Ward does go to Tennessee, I wish him nothing but the best.

Speaker 4 At number two, when would y'all like to see?

Speaker 4 Who going number two?

Speaker 4 Tram. Tram.
Yeah. Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter? Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think it's a two-horse race for number two.

Speaker 4 I think it's Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter.

Speaker 4 Obviously, Travis is a two-way player. He can give you offense.
He can give you defense. Abdul Carter is an edge rusher, 12 sacks this past season.
Binds a lot of people. Michael Parson.

Speaker 4 Labar Arrington are that straight linebacker lineage that comes out of Penn State University. It's going to be very, very interesting to see.

Speaker 4 The

Speaker 4 third is where it starts to get interesting.

Speaker 4 You know why? I think the first two picks, I think they're kind of, I'm not going to say etched in stone, but the guy's carving, I think he's already on his seat.

Speaker 4 Well, actually, I don't think number three might be different based on who goes number two. If Trav or App, if they go defense, you go with a two-way player, I'd say Travis Hunter goes number two.

Speaker 4 Yes. Then it's a toss-up.
That's what I'm going to say. Number three.
Can it be Abdul Carter? Do the Giants need another defense in? They already have Thibodeau.

Speaker 4 Go with with Kayvon Thibodeau. Yes.

Speaker 4 What about Shador? Because they still don't have a quarterback. Goals with Lawrence.
He tackled.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 4 You really need somebody to compete in that division. Right.
At quarterback position. Okay, they got Russ.
Yeah. Is that enough to hold it? It's only one year.
I know.

Speaker 4 They got Jameis, but that's only one year.

Speaker 4 Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 4 Jalen Hurts. Yes.
Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 If you go back and look at what happened to to the Raiders, you got

Speaker 4 Pat Mahomes, you got Bo Nicks,

Speaker 4 you got

Speaker 4 Justin Hurt.

Speaker 4 And now you got Johnston. That's Geno Smith.
You see, the Raiders really needed, they knew they needed a quarterback because you got, it's a quarterback-heavy division. Right.

Speaker 4 The NFC East is a quarterback-heavy division. Now, the question is, do you want to match fire with fire or do you want somebody to go extinguish that fire?

Speaker 4 That's the question. Listen, a defensive player can only impact the game so much.
You see,

Speaker 4 what does Philly have? Defense. Oh,

Speaker 4 collectively, though, as a whole.

Speaker 4 As a whole. You hear Chirps, Washington's trying to play for...
Go up. No, they're in play for T.J.
Watt.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That'd be nice. So

Speaker 4 I think it starts to get interesting at three.

Speaker 4 Once we get into three and okay, it's going to really start to get interesting at four, five, six, seven, eight, the top 10. It's going to be a...

Speaker 4 Listen to the Adam Schaefer. I think somebody else said it.
More teams are interested in moving down and moving up. I think we don't have we don't have a

Speaker 4 really exciting draft class outside of maybe the top three. Yeah, there aren't too many players that really are really attracted.

Speaker 4 What he's saying,

Speaker 4 okay.

Speaker 4 We got them clocked. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Go back though.

Speaker 4 Go back though.

Speaker 4 Don't.

Speaker 4 He going number one. That's the face you have when you're going number one.
Sure.

Speaker 4 The cam.

Speaker 4 He's like, man,

Speaker 4 I'm nervous.

Speaker 4 But they've done a great job of holding it in, Odeon, because you don't want to rob him of that excitement. Right.
Hey, let him have that moment. Let him, hey, let him call.
Hey, hey, man, it's me.

Speaker 4 I'm just calling. Hey, man, what you doing?

Speaker 4 What'd you have for lunch? What you have for breakfast today? You see Travis Hunter in the pink?

Speaker 4 Matt. Is that pink or Fuchsia?

Speaker 4 That's pink. Okay.
That's pink. Pink or pink.
I'm excited for Trav. I'm excited for Trav, especially wherever he goes.

Speaker 4 I'm hoping the organization knows that he would love to play both sides of the ball. I hope they grant him that grace, being that's what he was able to do at Colorado.
I'm excited for him.

Speaker 4 I don't know where he goes. I would like, you know what I would like? What?

Speaker 4 I would like for Jerry Jones to make a splash by not talking to the media, but moving up the draft and going to get Travis Hunter at number two. I like that.

Speaker 4 Oh, boy, you got to give up so much i think the cowboy

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Speaker 4 is it this might be it

Speaker 4 if i'm jerry i go try to get tyreek

Speaker 4 oh that's that's another go man that's a good i like that i like that tyreek tyreek and cd tyreek and cd tipped tyreek outside cd in the slot You got Javante Williams at running back.

Speaker 4 He came over from the Broncos.

Speaker 4 I think they're going to probably, they need to do something at the offensive line. Zach Martin retired.
The offensive line wasn't very good last year. They were beat up.
Terrence Steele is there.

Speaker 4 They got the Smith kid, but they need some quality. That got hit a little bit too much, and the running game was non-existent.

Speaker 4 I don't know if they weren't very good at the running game or they didn't put an emphasis enough on the running game, but they definitely need to improve the running game and the offensive line.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir. What are you thinking? So you think this pull a switch and rule on us?

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 4 I don't know why I can feel it. What do y'all think? Who do you think is going to be the first pick?

Speaker 4 Cam. Travis? You think Travis? You think Cam?

Speaker 4 Who you got?

Speaker 4 Who you got number? Who you got going number one?

Speaker 4 Travis? You think so?

Speaker 4 You want to make a bet? Let's bet 20 bucks.

Speaker 4 Let's bet 20 bucks. Me and you.
I ain't going to pay you, but let's bet. No, he don't pay.
Don't bet him. Don't bet him.
He don't pay. He's been on me figure 200 for six months.

Speaker 4 Oh, come on now. It's time to what? We don't normally be late.
We normally be.

Speaker 4 I'm on the clock. There's three minutes.
Well, I didn't hear the commissioner. The commissioner normally comes to the podium.
Welcome to the 2025 NFL draft.

Speaker 4 Welcome. The clock.
How long is the clock over? I think it's 10 minutes, isn't it? Okay.

Speaker 4 Ash, are you in my ear? How long? What's that?

Speaker 4 You want to make a bet?

Speaker 4 Huh? You're going Cam. He's going Cam.
You got Cam? Look at Commissioner on the bike. I got Cam.
Hey, look at Commissioner on the bike. Hey, tripping.

Speaker 4 That's the Green Bay training camp tradition. Hold on.
I got Travis Hunter going first.

Speaker 4 Let's bet.

Speaker 4 Friendly bet. Friendly bet.
All right. Lord, Hebrew.

Speaker 4 Commission probably hadn't rode a bike, bike, hadn't rode a bike in 20 years. 30.

Speaker 4 40, bigger 40.

Speaker 4 And they got little Wayne on the bike.

Speaker 4 Ugh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, Lil Wayne on a bike with Ugs.

Speaker 4 Ah, let's go.

Speaker 4 Come on, Lili got. Come on, what we got? Come on.

Speaker 4 Commission got on sneakers. That's

Speaker 4 AJ? No.

Speaker 4 Matthews Jr. Clay Matthews Jr.
They look the same. He does.

Speaker 4 They still booing the Commission? You man, you know that. After all these years.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Actually, they're booing the owners, but he had to go out there in front of them.

Speaker 4 Remember how we talked about Nico Harrison? Right, that's right. Paul was on on the song for that.
Yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 4 Hey, are you nervous to lose that 20?

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 Matter of fact, you don't even have to pay me. After this, you've got to treat me to dinner.

Speaker 4 No, I want to go to Tanner's.

Speaker 4 All right, bet.

Speaker 4 Can you hear Commissioner talking? No. I can't either.

Speaker 4 No, I was wondering why came we I thought we was gonna be able to hear

Speaker 4 Oh we're turning the TV up so we can hear

Speaker 4 I Mean I like to watch the games and sound but I want to hear the pinks in real time

Speaker 4 No, he's the Broncos. He's a Broncos.
Raven. No, no.
Both.

Speaker 4 Hey, you're a Raven fan? Hey, Jeff. Why are you here?

Speaker 4 Come on, man.

Speaker 4 Oh, you're a Raven fan, too?

Speaker 4 Listen, you know what? I still love you, but everybody likes to have flaws. That's one of yours.
It's cool.

Speaker 4 Hey, hold on. Who's better? The Ravens or the Bengals?

Speaker 4 You want to to make a bet this year?

Speaker 4 Bet twenty dollars.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 Not too loud, not too loud.

Speaker 4 That's a good one.

Speaker 4 That's a good one.

Speaker 4 I don't know if the president actually said that, but that was pretty good.

Speaker 4 So as Commissioner announced that the Titans are on the clock now, here we go. Here we go.

Speaker 4 Come on, Raj.

Speaker 4 He can speed this up if you just go ahead and announce the pick.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 4 Tiffany C Titans are on the clock. Do we have any Titans fans here?

Speaker 4 Oh, you by yourself?

Speaker 4 Titan fans? No.

Speaker 4 That says Vikings. Hey,

Speaker 4 Warren Moon said that if Cam

Speaker 4 goes to the Titans, he will take the number one out of retirement and allow him to wear it. That's dope.
That's live.

Speaker 4 So here it is.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 Quarterback, two defensive players.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I just have a feeling they're going to pull a fast one.
You think so, Ocho?

Speaker 4 I have a feeling.

Speaker 4 I don't know why.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this. Why would you take Trav when you ain't got nobody getting the ball?

Speaker 4 You don't think they'd get Will Evans another year?

Speaker 4 He really hasn't had an actual chance. I think they would, but he keeps making the same mistakes.
Right. That's that's what eats.
That's what he

Speaker 4 bug coaches. Right.

Speaker 4 See?

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Huh?

Speaker 4 All right. Listen to Adam Schefter talk.
He says that the Tennessee Titans were sold on Cam Ward.

Speaker 4 The Giants said

Speaker 4 we'll switch spots with you at three and give you next year's number

Speaker 4 and other draft picks. So that solidifies Cam going one.
Yeah. It looks like I lost the bet, sir.

Speaker 4 Hey, he on the look at it. He got the phone up to a zero, Joe.

Speaker 4 allow him to have that moment. Right.

Speaker 4 Oh, you want him to sign it, huh?

Speaker 4 Wait, you want me to sign that one or the one I give you?

Speaker 4 Hey, you got $3?

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Speaker 4 I'm betting money I ain't even got her.

Speaker 4 I'm getting your money now. Hold on.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got to do a better job.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 Mel Capra seems to be sold more on Shador than Cam Ward, but it's too late now. The Hayes in the barn.
Cam's going number one overall.

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Speaker 4 Boy, Mel is really sold on Shador. I think the one thing of watching him, oh Joe, he got to do a better job of getting the ball out.
He takes a lot of sacks.

Speaker 4 A lot of times a quarterback gets sacks. People automatically think it's the offensive line.
Sometimes you got to know when to hold them, know when to mold them.

Speaker 4 Sometimes don't get your team in second and long, third and long. Sometimes don't take your team out of field goal range.
Get the ball out. It's okay to live to see another day, but be smart.
Yes.

Speaker 4 You know, if you're in field goal range, don't take a sack. Yeah, throw it out.

Speaker 4 Throw it out of bounds if you you know you're second and short don't be third and long just don't do anything stupid he does a great job of protecting the ball but sometimes i think he's too cautious

Speaker 4 you've got to have some risk in order to be successful in the lead

Speaker 4 i think i think he's gonna be okay i don't like what the media and the pundits have done to him yeah yeah they beat him up yeah they're beating him up really bad based on him being confident that's one of the few things that you do need to play at the highest level is you got to have belief you got to be confident in your skills and what you're able to do yes coming out and saying if you want a franchise changing quarterback, you come and get me.

Speaker 4 There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that at all.
What was he supposed to say? If you want a franchise changing quarterback, don't come get me. Don't draft me.

Speaker 4 If you want to win your division, you want to go to the playoffs, don't take me.

Speaker 4 Of course, that's what he's supposed to say. I do like Cam.
He does have great escapability.

Speaker 4 Look,

Speaker 4 I think we all can agree that Cam is a better athlete than Shadur. Yeah.
But that doesn't mean Shadur can't play in the NFL. Peyton Manning wasn't the greatest athlete.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying Shadur is going to be that. I'm not saying he's going to be Tom Brady,

Speaker 4 Drew Brees, Gilliatt Rivers. But there's room for guys that are not athletic, as athletic as, say, a Lamar Jackson or,

Speaker 4 who's the guy up in Buffalo? Josh.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Because they're supremely athletic. That doesn't mean a guy that's not as athletic can't get the job done.
But then there are other attributes.

Speaker 4 The fact that he's not as athletic, there are other things to his game that he's much better at.

Speaker 4 His precision, his accuracy, his ability to process very fast outside of holding holding the ball too long, sometimes waiting on things to develop.

Speaker 4 Sometimes it's what a quarterback, what you can't see with a quarterback that makes him great. Right.
Because you look at Tom Brady, he didn't have anything, no big arm.

Speaker 4 He couldn't, he did, couldn't run very fast, he didn't have the muscular body. But what he had here, what he had here, replaced everything else, replaced everything else.

Speaker 4 So sometimes it's the intangibles as opposed to the tangibles.

Speaker 4 How much time on the clock? We got a pick is the pick is in. Picks in, picks in.
Well, we're about to find out a pick's in. I want my 20 bucks.

Speaker 4 Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 look, I didn't see anybody else put the phone up to the ear, OJo.

Speaker 4 I didn't see Trav put the phone up to his ear. Yeah.
I didn't see Abdul Carter put the phone up to his ear. Wait, that might have been a trick, though.
That might have been a trick.

Speaker 4 Man, who plays on the phone?

Speaker 4 Here it comes.

Speaker 4 The Tennessee Titans select

Speaker 4 from the University of Miami.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 You're right. You're right.
Good pick.

Speaker 4 Damn it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, guys, I don't think there was a bunch of surprise here.

Speaker 4 When they turned down all other visits and workouts,

Speaker 4 they re-rolled in on that guy.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, you know what it's like? Yes, sir. It's like you know the kind of car you want.
Right.

Speaker 4 Why are you going to go test driving, waste them people's time test driving something that you know you're already gonna buy? You're right.

Speaker 4 You got your mind made up. Yeah.
Whether it's a Ferrari, a Lambo, a G-Wagon, or a Cullinan, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 4 When you have your mind set, don't go waste them with time to let me test, drive this, let me test, drive that. Oh, we got a trade alert.
Oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 Wait, what are we? What are we doing?

Speaker 4 The Cowboys, I guarantee you. Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 No, they're going to get.

Speaker 4 They're going to get

Speaker 4 trail. They're going to get trapped.
Wait.

Speaker 4 What if they shock you and and they get asked Abdul Carter? No, no, no, Aston Genty, yeah, Jensi, no,

Speaker 4 no,

Speaker 4 oh,

Speaker 4 I don't know, oh, Joe, hold on,

Speaker 4 you going, you going to get a running back?

Speaker 4 Okay, listen, I just heard about Jacksonville, I just heard about Jacksonville always wanting to ask them Gentie. I heard all fixed, right?

Speaker 4 See,

Speaker 4 wow,

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 Hey, I thought we'd get interested once we got past three.

Speaker 4 Oh, the drama started at two. Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 That changes up everything now, though. It does.

Speaker 4 Let me tell you where it changes up at. Who goes to? That's what changes.
Right. Now, if they take Genti.

Speaker 4 Wait,

Speaker 4 they got E.T.N., right?

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying. That's why I think it makes sense for me.
to take Travis Hunter because you can play him on offense and defense. Now you get a package together.
Right.

Speaker 4 Hey, he plays as many snaps as he can handle on defense. And you got a nice little package for him on offense.
I like it if Travis Hunter is the pick. Right.

Speaker 4 I think if Jenzi's the pick, also, I look at Philly.

Speaker 4 I look at what Saquon was able to do for the Philadelphia Eagles and I see Aston Jenzi in that same light, being able to run the ball, being able to be a three-down back. He can pass protect.

Speaker 4 He can catch the ball out the backfield. He can do some of those things.
I'm not sure. I don't know what they're going to do with the number two pick.

Speaker 4 Travis Hunter nice, but I would have much preferred him somewhere else in a bigger market, New York.

Speaker 4 I would have loved him in New York, and obviously, in Cleveland, opposite side of Denzel Ward, and obviously doing some stuff on offense opposite of Judy. Yeah,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 I mean, where do y'all think? Jackson, where is Jacksonville going with the number two pick now?

Speaker 4 Travis Hunter, I think Travis too. Where is he going? Number two pick, Travis, Travis,

Speaker 4 Travis,

Speaker 4 Travis, Travis,

Speaker 4 I think so too, OJ.

Speaker 4 It makes sense.

Speaker 4 Because House, where you're going to get him? Yeah. Got to go up.

Speaker 4 Terry, too. He wasn't going to be there.
Nope. Wasn't going to be there.
Nope. Nope.

Speaker 4 Because then there's a possibility somebody shoot on past three and take it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Make a trade with the Giants to take it. I think it's going to be Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 I'm not surprised. I'm surprised.
Like I said, I won't be surprised if it's Travis Hunter. I'm going to be shocked if it's Ashton Gentie.

Speaker 4 Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling.
I mean, number two, the old, a running back. St.
Quali. St.
Quinn's running. He went five.
He went to.

Speaker 4 He went behind Baker Mayfield. That's right.
So why do you think he would be the one to go two?

Speaker 4 I'm not saying he's not as special. I'm not saying he is.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 4 People are telling us it's going to be Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 4 We got a spy in the green room. Travis Hunter has been on the phone with

Speaker 4 Travis Hunter. Hold on.
Duval Camp.

Speaker 4 They get the second.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 The Browns get the fifth overall pick, the 2025, second and fourth round picks. And next year's number one.

Speaker 4 That's nice. That's a haul.
That's nice, Matt. Joe.
To move up three spots. Yeah.
Look at what they gave up to move up three spots. And you thought

Speaker 4 the Cowboys was going to move up 10 spots?

Speaker 4 They had to get AT ⁇ T Stadium.

Speaker 4 That's dope. Travis Hunter, Duval County.
Oh, Joe. That's almost as big a deal as what the 49ers gave up to get Trey Lance.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Trey Lance went from. That didn't work out so well.
No, I'm not. Hey.

Speaker 4 But look, travis is proven travis did it at jackson state and they said yeah but if you were at a bigger school you couldn't do that he goes to a power for

Speaker 4 and he did it on both sides of the ball at a very high level he was the heisman trophy winner he was the blitznercumf award winner he was the gurski award winner so there's no question about his ability the question that people have is can he play at the level he played at in college on both sides of the ball i i think he can like we already talked about i prefer to see him at receiver or db maybe them have some have some packages for him right at receiver uh as a db one thing about it i know all games are gonna sell out i know who's gonna have the number one seller in jersey this year yeah yeah duval county got you a good one

Speaker 4 they got you a good one in jacksonville i like it i like this pick that's dope i like this pitch i i'm really liking this pick to the jags jags knew the guy that they wanted oh joe yes sir they knew the guy that they wanted

Speaker 4 okay We're going to have to give up a King's ransom to get him. Got to.
And sometimes when you want a house in that subdivision, in that cul-de-sac,

Speaker 4 they got great, great schools in that district. Yes.
Everything is in close proximity. You got to pay a little bit of, you have to pay a little extra.
It's all about location.

Speaker 4 And you have no problem paying extra for that nice location because you know what you get long term. Yes.
You know what you get long term. Because you got to fake resale.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be able to recoup my money in Travis Hunter. Easily.
People are going to look. He's from Georgia.
It's a short ride from Atlanta to Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 I like this pick. Now, they gave up a lot to get it, Mocho.
It was worth it. They gave up a lot to get it.

Speaker 4 Oh, absolutely. Worth it.
Ask how much time we got.

Speaker 4 Coach Commission, walking back to

Speaker 4 Coach.

Speaker 4 He was in San Francisco two years ago.

Speaker 4 What's his name?

Speaker 4 D. Lyman.

Speaker 4 Oh, I don't know D Lyman that well. Ash, who was that? What's his name? He was at San Francisco.

Speaker 4 Duval.

Speaker 4 Lil Duval actually gonna lose his mind. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody saw this pick coming, though, Joe. I don't think anybody saw this trade.

Speaker 4 Not the trade. The pick, yes.
I thought he was going to. Yes.
He had to be going two. I just didn't know anybody would jump up to go get him like this.

Speaker 4 Travis

Speaker 4 Trav, yeah

Speaker 4 Travis Hunter

Speaker 4 That's live

Speaker 4 That's live wide receiver defensive back.

Speaker 4 And he got his dad in his attendance. His dad was able to get permission, Ocho, to come see his son.
There you go, Trail. Show up.

Speaker 4 Show up.

Speaker 4 That's live. That's great.

Speaker 4 The thing is, OJo, these young men, hopefully,

Speaker 4 your journey starts all over again. Yeah, most definitely.
There was a journey to get to this point. Now your journey starts all over again because your journey wasn't just to get here.

Speaker 4 It was to thrive here. Yeah, most definitely.
Listen, as a youngster, I remember those days.

Speaker 4 Obviously, I wasn't able to go to the draft, but just getting drafted and just thinking about all the obstacles.

Speaker 4 I had to go to the draft, the military.

Speaker 4 I was getting ready to head down to the Air Force Recruiting Center. Hey, this is dope.
This is great for Travis. It's great for

Speaker 4 the Jaguars organization.

Speaker 4 That's the dope feeling.

Speaker 4 Hey. Do all.

Speaker 4 Hey, there've been skilled guys coming.

Speaker 4 Them skilled guys can't lift commission up like them.

Speaker 4 This is unbelievable. This is unbelievable right here.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like it. I like it.

Speaker 4 We got the Giants at three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's going to be Carter. You think so? Yeah.
Pairing with Thibodeau, pairing with Lawrence.

Speaker 4 But then what's your answer long-term at the quarterback position if you do go with Thibodeau? Well, they say they believe Russ can sustain him for a year.

Speaker 4 They got Jameis.

Speaker 4 So the thing is,

Speaker 4 they want to be able to attack Jalen Hurts. They want to be able to attack Jaden Daniels.
They want to be able to attack Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 So with that in mind, look, you got two edge rushers and you got one of the premier D-tackles and all the football collapsed in the pocket on the inside. I like the pick.
I like the pick.

Speaker 4 Because if I'm taking a quarterback at three Ocho, I got to love it. I got to love it.

Speaker 4 But also, in that division, you got to have a quarterback to be able to score some points. You go to defense.
Let's say you do go at Abdul Carter here.

Speaker 4 You're able to stop.

Speaker 4 all the teams that are able to score at will in your division. But how you going to put up points? Well, how are you going to put up points? They say they got league neighbors.

Speaker 4 They believe Russ can get him the ball. They believe

Speaker 4 they can get a, who knows? They could trade back in and get one of these receivers. But I think they believe, Ocho, they can get a great pick in the second round.

Speaker 4 Do you believe that can happen? Do you believe they can get a day two pick, a day two wide receiver that's quality? Absolutely.

Speaker 4 There's some jams that aren't out there that aren't talked about enough that might be able to come out based on the system that they do run. Correct.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The first two picks, I'm not surprised at all. No.

Speaker 4 I mean, you get the

Speaker 4 you get the premier, you get the premier cornerback in the draft, you get a top three receiver in the draft, you get the best athlete in the draft,

Speaker 4 yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 4 I'm not surprised at all.

Speaker 4 Oh, Trav.

Speaker 4 Look at it. They got Du Ball, Florida.
Pulling the cap. That's dope.

Speaker 4 I like that.

Speaker 4 Giants pick us in.

Speaker 4 Giants pick us in. Our spot in the green room says going to be Abdul.
What do we got?

Speaker 4 Who you got at number three?

Speaker 4 Abdul Carter?

Speaker 4 Abdul Carter.

Speaker 4 They're going to take

Speaker 4 maybe Shadur. I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think the thing is, they want to attack the quarterback. They want to tag the quarterback.
You get two edge rushes. Because think about

Speaker 4 what the Philly got. They got Jalen Hurts inside.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they got them edge rushers on the edge. Now,

Speaker 4 they lost, you know.

Speaker 4 Who is it? Sweat? Wasn't it Sweat? Yeah. And they have the, I forgot young Bulls.
Yeah. Three.
What's number three?

Speaker 4 He went to

Speaker 4 New England. Okay.

Speaker 4 But they still, but they still got, see, Deion Sanders, last players were eight plus starts on offense and defense.

Speaker 4 And that was, what, 95? Yeah, that was long. 96, 95.
Long, long time ago. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Very long.

Speaker 4 But you have to understand, though, Ocho,

Speaker 4 that was time seventh or eighth season. Right.
That wasn't this rookie season.

Speaker 4 defenses are a little bit more complex offenses are a little bit more complex right but he he told you before you he oh they're gonna allow no Jacksonville is going to allow

Speaker 4 okay okay they're gonna allow it yeah the pick is in pick is in Giants Shadur Sanders

Speaker 4 you want to make a bet

Speaker 4 how much you got to lose

Speaker 4 The man hugging his mom and dad on the TV up there.

Speaker 4 Oh, for real? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, you cheating. You looking at the TV.
Yeah. I told y'all.
I spied. I spied.

Speaker 4 There you go.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Abdul.

Speaker 4 Yeah, hey, even Pops got on chain. Look at Parkland.
There you go, Pops.

Speaker 4 That's live. Abdul Carter to the Giants.

Speaker 4 Look,

Speaker 4 He's a two he's a unanimous all-American. Yeah, the one thing that the guy, hey, for the most part, you look at Labar, guys that wear that number 11, 11, special.
They special. Special.
They special.

Speaker 4 Abdul Carter is special.

Speaker 4 He can transfer speed to power. He can bend the edge.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 I got no problem with this pick. And on that turf, he's going to be dynamic.
He's going to be electric.

Speaker 4 I mean, I like it, but still, I'm thinking about in order to compete in that, especially in that division, you need somebody at the quarterback. There's nothing wrong with Russ.

Speaker 4 No disrespect to Russia and no disrespect to Jameis as well. But to compete in that division, you need a transcendent talent, someone to set you ahead of schedule by a decade.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I don't see, I like Shador.

Speaker 4 I don't understand. I don't know what the scouts are seeing.
I don't know what the GMs are looking at. But I've seen, I saw him do it at Jackson Station.

Speaker 4 What do you got? Hey, special handshake? Yeah, they had a special handshake. Oh, they practiced that.
Yeah, they did. Absolutely.
They practiced that.

Speaker 4 I think everybody's happy with the first three picks, though, Joe. I think every fan base is really happy with those picks.
You can't go wrong.

Speaker 4 For the first five, you really can't go wrong. At four, I think the Patriots at four, everybody had them pegged in to take offensive linemen, the big offensive lineman on the LSU.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Our spies tell us that Will Campbell is on the phone with somebody.

Speaker 4 I don't think it's his

Speaker 4 accountant.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 that's a great pick, man. That's a great pick.
Look at this. The great timing.

Speaker 4 Ooh.

Speaker 4 That's how you do it. You unload.
Look at this. Hey, running backs.
You better step up. You better step up.

Speaker 4 Oh, let me get that. Great tip.
Dropping coverage.

Speaker 4 He's doing that. With this, look at this.
He's spying. Spies, spies.

Speaker 4 Look at this closing speed. Give me that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But this is where he excels at right here, Ocho.
Look at this.

Speaker 4 Look at this. Look at this.

Speaker 4 One side of the field to the other side of the field. A TFL tackle from off.
But look at this deal boot. That's Bob Miller special.
Bro, Ken Mick, where you going? Didn't low and rip. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's special. He can be in.

Speaker 4 you nice that's a good pick now i can't i can't i can't complain i can't complain i like it ocho because everybody else in that division with the exception of the cowboys had an outstanding defense

Speaker 4 at least they were last year we saw what philly did it look we don't know what's going to happen with the commanders it's you know it's been reported that they're in the running with uh for tj watt pittsburgh steelers might want to move try to move up right

Speaker 4 but I like this pick for them. I do.
I agree with you now. Don't get me wrong.
I agree with you with the quarterback situation. But for them to go defensive player instead of a quarterback tells me

Speaker 4 I'm not sold on Shadur. I'm not sold on Jackson Dart.

Speaker 4 And when you take a guy, you got to be sold on Joe. Yeah, matter of fact.

Speaker 4 When you pay a million plus for a home, you better be sold.

Speaker 4 Everything should be ready for you to move in and just sit up shop. Yeah, that's it.
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Speaker 4 There's no question.

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Speaker 4 Oh, the packers won't TJ.

Speaker 4 I think a lot of teams won't TJ.

Speaker 4 You're talking about one of the two or three best rushes in the NFL. The New England Patriots are on the clock night four.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 they made a splash. They spent a lot of money in the offseason.

Speaker 4 They spent a lot of money. They got their quarterback.
They got their head coach. Yes.

Speaker 4 I like Gonzalez at corner. They went and got a D-tackle, played premium.
They bought Stephan. Yep.
They brought Stephon. Stephanie Diggs is here.

Speaker 4 I'm not. We got to protect that quarterback.
Hey, if you got a bunch of money, somebody got to go provide security over here. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be the offensive tackle from

Speaker 4 an LSU. LSU.
Will how.

Speaker 4 What's Will Campbell? Campbell.

Speaker 4 The only not complaining about him having short arms,

Speaker 4 I think that really has nothing to do with it being able to play the person. Did his arm shrink when he was in before he got out of college? Yeah, he kept pancaking everybody.
Exactly.

Speaker 4 That's what I don't understand. A guy performed very well in college, and then you find fault with him.
Yeah. Like, oh, he got short arms.
Oh, his feet. Right.
But he did something.

Speaker 4 To make you even consider him. Right.

Speaker 4 You know what it is? I think, oh, Joe, I think a lot of times they try to find what's wrong with you as opposed to what's right.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I get it. Hey, I got to kick the tires.

Speaker 4 I got to do a full inspection of what's going on with you because I'm investing a lot of money in you.

Speaker 4 These first three, four players, five players, they're getting fully guaranteed contracts, OJo. Fully.
Fully. So.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think anybody's surprised with that, considering the moves that they made in the offseason.

Speaker 4 Stefan diggs a wide receiver They got went to it got a big defensive tackle from the Eagles Pay a premium from him. They got Gonzalez at corner.
I'm not surprised. Let's protect the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Let's protect

Speaker 4 I Like it

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't

Speaker 4 now

Speaker 4 I Think the fourth, the fourth, the top four picks,

Speaker 4 I think the only order, I don't think there's really any surprise. I thought Cam would go number one.
If Cleveland had stayed at two, I think they were going to take Shador.

Speaker 4 The Giants was always going to take Abdul Carter if he was available.

Speaker 4 As we started getting closer to the draft, we started hearing about Will Campbell to the Patriots.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 with the fifth pick, because Jacksonville traded with Cleveland, where does Cleveland go now? Well,

Speaker 4 Nick Chubb is not there, right? Nick Chubb is gone.

Speaker 4 What about Shadur?

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 4 Now it's a toss-up, though. Can it be Shador? Can you find, can you go to the running back position?

Speaker 4 Ashton or... Five is just a high for a running back.
But look, I get the resurgence. Right.
Because you saw what Saquon did. You saw what Derrick Henry did.
You saw what Josh Jacobs did.

Speaker 4 You saw, you know, you saw Jameer Gibbs or Joe Mixon. There are a lot of guys that had success.
Yes. And the running back all of a sudden now is in vogue.
Yes. Certain running backs.

Speaker 4 And this is the type of running back that you don't want to pass up, that you can take at the fifth pick because he can do so much for you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The second most rushed yards in college history. Yes.
26 over 2,600 yards. Finished about 25, 28, 27 yards behind what Barry did.
Right.

Speaker 4 It's a little high for me, but if you believe he's the guy, you take it. Yeah.
You take it.

Speaker 4 I like it. But I think we're all in agreeance that Will Campbell is going to be the fourth pick in the draft New England.

Speaker 4 Commissioners walking to the podium now.

Speaker 4 This was a little delay. That was.

Speaker 4 It's Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 That's

Speaker 4 Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 Jenti

Speaker 4 Shador?

Speaker 4 How you know?

Speaker 4 Hey, Ash, what did they say to the green woman? What we got?

Speaker 4 Do we got? Hey.

Speaker 4 Mason Graham.

Speaker 4 Oh, the D-tackle from Michigan. He nice.

Speaker 4 He nice.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 We got a guest coming. We got a guest joining us out here in about five minutes.
The human joystick.

Speaker 4 Dante Hall, the great returner from Kansas City, punt and kick returner. Tremendous slide receiver.
6'5, 3'19.

Speaker 4 His arms are short. You can see that.
But look at this. Let's see.

Speaker 4 But look how he plays. Great balance.
Kickstap. Great.

Speaker 4 Doesn't overextend.

Speaker 4 Wow, I like that.

Speaker 4 Okay, kick. Let's see.
Let's see what he got on Joe. Oh, pass it off.
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 4 I like that. that drop no look at him sit down good anchor down look at him sit down on this oh no oh my goodness

Speaker 4 i love it okay let's see

Speaker 4 let's see how he snap this off ojo

Speaker 4 oh get up oh yes

Speaker 4 that's i love those yeah look at him climb

Speaker 4 he nice look at this i like his bass powerful hands in

Speaker 4 but they complained about his song being too strong hey look at that you You see how he's strong with that outside hand? Yes, sir. Because he knows I can't let you spin back inside.

Speaker 4 If you run around this block, you're not going to be able to get that because it's an inside run. He's strong with this.
Look at this. Get his feet inside.
Keep driving. Oh, oh, pancake.

Speaker 4 Hey, that's a full stack of pancakes right there.

Speaker 4 And I like the soup.

Speaker 4 I like that.

Speaker 4 I like the hey, I like the green with the chalk stripes. There you go, Will.
There you go. Clean.
I like the cash look. Hey, I like the sneakers.
He wanted me over.

Speaker 4 I like this.

Speaker 4 I like this.

Speaker 4 I guess everybody getting away from lifting the commissioner up. They had a great run.

Speaker 4 It's coming. You think it's coming back? It's coming.
It's coming. It's coming.

Speaker 4 Will Campbell.

Speaker 4 I see he got the Pepsi on.

Speaker 4 I like this bigo, Joe.

Speaker 4 It's a good one. Look, you got Drake May.

Speaker 4 Drake May is your money you need something to protect your money you need security you got to protect your money got to protect every time so I like I like this pick yep

Speaker 4 look at rabes

Speaker 4 look

Speaker 4 I think the patriots look

Speaker 4 we might not agree that uh

Speaker 4 the coach didn't have enough time right

Speaker 4 but look Frable was not going to be available next year. No.

Speaker 4 So you had to make a move. Got to make a move.

Speaker 4 And plus, hey, Mayo got he got four more years on that contract. Hey, I ain't looking for a job.
Good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's going to make it very interesting for the AFC East to see if the Patriots can get back to competing at a high level the way they used to. Now,

Speaker 4 I'm not sure how far off they are from competing or continuing against the Bills. Bills, yeah.

Speaker 4 But it's a start.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You got to crawl.
Listen, you got to crawl before you walk.

Speaker 4 How much better in year two would Drake may be than year one? Because Josh Allen is your MVP. Yeah.
So we know he's cream of the crop. Yeah.
He's top, he's tier one.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Tua, can he stay healthy? Yes.

Speaker 4 That's that is probably the most important question. Can Tua stay healthy?

Speaker 4 And then the Jets.

Speaker 4 The Jets got Justin Fields.

Speaker 4 Wait, the pick is in already?

Speaker 4 Brown speakers in. What we got?

Speaker 4 Howard?

Speaker 4 Big boy? D-Tacker from Michigan. Michigan.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 4 I thought Shador might sneak in here at five. Right.

Speaker 4 Now, it's about to get interested. Hold on, on, the Raiders are at six, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 So I was right.

Speaker 4 I was right.

Speaker 4 I like, you know what, look.

Speaker 4 I really like this pick.

Speaker 4 Because, you know, they got some, they got, they got good running backs, not great in New England. Right.
They got good. But I think the main thing is you want protection for Drake May.

Speaker 4 That's the guy. You've got to protect him and allow him to throw the ball down the feet.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because if you can, especially in today's game, which is pass-oriented, everything is about throwing the ball. Yes.
You got to be able to protect him. You got to be able to protect him.

Speaker 4 I like the Stephon Diggs. I like that signing.
We'll see how close he is week one.

Speaker 4 He's still, you know, they might put him on the puck and he has to work. The pick is in.

Speaker 4 Yeah. What do we got? What do we got, Ojo?

Speaker 4 Jason Graham? Yeah, they're going big boy, big boy from Michigan.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 He's a hell of a player, man. He's good.
He's good. Really good.
But pairing him with Miles Garrett, being a disruptor up in the middle, being able to stop, obviously,

Speaker 4 and destruct,

Speaker 4 obviously, some of those teams in AFC. Yep.

Speaker 4 And then the Ravens. Yeah, I think.
Bengals.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I like the fact that Miles Garrett can get to the quarterback, but I like the fact that I got a big guy inside to stop David Henry up the middle.

Speaker 4 That's a good one. 6'3, 295.

Speaker 4 He plays with great pad liberties. Yeah.
I mean, he has tremendous. Look at all over.
Good move.

Speaker 4 Good move. Bam.
Hey, he's twitchy now. Yeah, look at this.
He plays with great pad lips. Look at this.
Press.

Speaker 4 Oh, oh, snatch pull.

Speaker 4 I got you. Let me get that.
Hey, you see that? Hey, oh, Joe, you see that pull? Yeah, that was that pull. That was nice.
That was nice.

Speaker 4 Oh, get on the edge. Get in the side.
Oh, tackle, fall off. Woo!

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 He's different. Now he's in the three T.
Now he's in that cop.

Speaker 4 Oh, snatch rib. Yep.
Snatch pull again.

Speaker 4 Look at this.

Speaker 4 Bull. Oh.

Speaker 4 Straight bull power.

Speaker 4 They showed three different cutups. So I've seen three different moves.

Speaker 4 I've seen a snatch rip and I see the straight bull.

Speaker 4 He got a nice little bag on him, man. He does.
He got a nice little bag on him.

Speaker 4 And the sea thing is why I like defensive tackles like this, because they're closer to the quarterback than the edge rusher. So he's a, he's.

Speaker 4 Two yards away from the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Quarterback's got to be the guards got to be really special to deal with him. Yeah, because he got a Aaron Donald had a bag like that.
Yeah, he's not Aaron Donald.

Speaker 4 No, no, but I just said, but I saw three snaps, I saw three cutups, Ocho, and I saw three different moves. But also, what we saw, obviously, in college, he was one-on-one most of the time.

Speaker 4 Yes, most of the time, with him being that boy, he's gonna get someone. He's gonna get double teamed down.
Hold on, you will double him, or you're gonna double Miles Garrett.

Speaker 4 That's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 4 Genius to the Raiders.

Speaker 4 How do you know?

Speaker 4 I got a little got a little we got a little birdie in the green room

Speaker 4 It's

Speaker 4 Mason Graham

Speaker 4 He got what you call the man. He got I like it.
I like this picko joke. Yeah, a lot.
I like this pick. I mean what watching him on that cut on those cut-ups

Speaker 4 When you watch film, you always want to stand out. Yes, yes.
And when you watch film and see these these picks that are going high, you understand why they went high.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody's surprised

Speaker 4 this pick.

Speaker 4 Now, once we get past Genti, because there have been a lot of talk over the last, say, three to four days about Genti going to the Raiders. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So him going to the Raiders, I don't think that's going to shock a whole lot of people.

Speaker 4 Brady wants to protect Gino.

Speaker 4 Wide receiver.

Speaker 4 Look, they got Brock Bowers. They got

Speaker 4 two or three best tidies in all of football. But you need somebody on the outside, OJo, to take some pressure off you.

Speaker 4 I like Brother McMillan from Arizona State.

Speaker 4 He ain't going to be there when you, because you've got only one pick. If you take Gente, you're not going to be able to get McMillan.
I don't think he's sliding out of the first round.

Speaker 14 He's nice.

Speaker 4 Big target. How much time have we got on the clock, Ash?

Speaker 4 We got five minutes still.

Speaker 4 Look,

Speaker 4 I don't

Speaker 4 think it's going to be Gentee. I heard a lot.
I mean, over the last four or five days, there's been a lot of talk about Genti. They got a quarterback.
They extended Geno.

Speaker 4 I like Brock Bowles at the tight end position. They need a running back.

Speaker 4 They lost Josh Jacobs. He came here and they

Speaker 4 saw the type of season that he had. I think it's going to be a running back.

Speaker 4 Look, it's a copycat league. Look it up.
Basically, all the teams that had an outstanding running back, they went to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 As Denjit.

Speaker 4 It's live.

Speaker 4 Everything. Oh, Joe, think about it.

Speaker 4 Your top four or five running back. Right.
Saquon won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Derek Henry in the playoffs. Joe Mixon in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Josh Jacobs in the playoffs. Jameer Gibbs in the playoffs.
Copycat League. Hey, let's go get a running back.

Speaker 4 And also, when I think about it, what the Raiders are doing also,

Speaker 4 I don't see any premier receivers on their team. No, though, what can we do? How can we help G, how can we help Geno Smith give you a running back like this?

Speaker 4 It takes him to push off you for the lack of production that we're going to get on the outside. I like it, I like this pick, but boy, hey, they got to get some receivers now.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I don't know if there's any receivers left on the uh on the free engine market, don't you know,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 maybe uh uh

Speaker 4 I'm going heavy, yeah, second, third round. I'm going receiver,

Speaker 4 You got to get something in Fegino to throw to him. You got to.
I agree.

Speaker 4 He can run with power. Got great speech, tremendous balance.

Speaker 4 Nice default.

Speaker 4 Great benjamin. Run through contact.

Speaker 4 I like it.

Speaker 4 I like his style, though, Joe. He's standing straight up.

Speaker 4 And the funny thing,

Speaker 4 some people were talking about, you know, the level of competition that he plays against is not high. But when it came time to play in some of the big schools.
He played against Oregon.

Speaker 4 He went for almost 200 on over. And the same did the same thing regardless of the competition he played against.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think the thing is, Ocho, look.

Speaker 4 He's going to have better teammates around him. Oh, yeah.
Well, definitely. Than what he had at Boise estate, and that's not the discount, Boise Estate.

Speaker 4 But, you know, Brock Bowers is better than the tight end that he had.

Speaker 4 The quarterback, Gino, is better than the quarterback he had. So he has better players around him.
I think he'll do a lot better.

Speaker 4 But obviously, the defenses he's going against are going to be a lot better than the defenses.

Speaker 4 A lot faster.

Speaker 4 I like it. I like this pick.
Very good pick.

Speaker 4 Who's on the clock at seven? Ash who's going to clock? Jets. Uh-oh, Jets.

Speaker 4 Wait, they already got Justin Fields. We got Justin Fields.
I only got it for two years.

Speaker 4 What you taking? If you're the Jets, what you take? You got Garrett Wilson. Gary Wilson.

Speaker 4 Oh, my goodness. Is there a tight end? You got Tyler Warren rated that high?

Speaker 4 He does.

Speaker 4 Oh.

Speaker 4 For tightening.

Speaker 4 He nice.

Speaker 4 That'd be a nice addition.

Speaker 4 You like Tyler Warren? I do like him.

Speaker 4 I don't know if the Jets like him at six. That's too high, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think somewhere in the teens. Right.

Speaker 4 Who we got? Who's going seven?

Speaker 4 No. Seventh pick.
I mean, Jets got the seventh pick.

Speaker 4 Gentie. Genty got great balance.

Speaker 4 He got better speed than you think, Ojo. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He about the same height as Emmett?

Speaker 4 I think he might be a little faster than Emmett. You think so? Emmett? Yeah, but Emmett had tremendous balance.

Speaker 4 Look at Emmett.

Speaker 4 Emmett, you can put the ball in one hand. That's fast you can go, bro.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

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