Nightcap - Hour 2: Nightcap LIVE from 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay!

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Join Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson LIVE from Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin to react to the 2025 NFL Draft. Tap in with Unc & Ocho to see where top prospects Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, and Shedeur Sanders are selected!

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Speaker 2 I really like this pick for the Raiders. Yeah, a lot.
This pick for the Raiders. A lot.

Speaker 2 To me, for me, it takes all the pressure off the quarterback. Because when all hell break loose, hand it off.

Speaker 2 You live to see another day. You live to see another down.
And plus,

Speaker 2 I want to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field.

Speaker 2 I think that's the best way to beat him.

Speaker 2 You saw what the Eagles did. The Eagles had the ball so much, he couldn't get a rhythm.
And then to have a running back like this that can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 That's nice.

Speaker 2 He's extremely.

Speaker 2 Look at that.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's his high school.

Speaker 2 That was his high school look at that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 He could have made it some.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 a lot of teams wanted to jump into the portal.

Speaker 2 He probably could have made him a couple of million, but he's like, you know what? I started here. I'm going to finish here.

Speaker 2 I want to start what I finished. I like that.
You can do that when you're special.

Speaker 2 You can do that when you're special. It don't matter where you go.
It's what you do once you get there. He wanted that understood.
I can stay where I'm at, and I'm going to be fine.

Speaker 2 He was.

Speaker 2 He was sensational. He was.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like this.

Speaker 2 Where do you think? Where are the Jets going? Who the Jets take it?

Speaker 2 Membu? Where is he from?

Speaker 2 McGlurry? Oh, the wide receiver.

Speaker 2 O-lima

Speaker 2 to the Jets.

Speaker 2 I like Tyler Warren to the Jets. I like Warren.

Speaker 2 You don't like

Speaker 2 Tyler Warren.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 They got the, if you talk about

Speaker 2 Conklin,

Speaker 2 they got...

Speaker 2 I like Tyler Warren, but that's seven is a little high. You think that's too high? That's a little high for a tight end.
No, he's good.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 you don't think he's like Brock, bro? Yeah, he's Brock Bauer's good. You like that? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're a big show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's nice. Man, Brock was...

Speaker 2 From Brock's first year, Brock... Brock could have come out in his freshman year that good.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Jeff need anyone.

Speaker 2 Who they take it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, look at the tanning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I already am. I don't need the jacket.

Speaker 2 As what we're looking like.

Speaker 2 Ash.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Old lineman from Missouri.

Speaker 2 That's what the speculation is.

Speaker 2 You don't like that? No.

Speaker 2 You got to protect him.

Speaker 2 Where would you prefer them to go? Tight end. Tight end.

Speaker 2 More weapons. More weapons.
You don't think seven is a lot. More weapons.
You don't think seven is a loss? Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 2 I can't hear you.

Speaker 2 Wait, who are they picking?

Speaker 2 Oh, we...

Speaker 2 That's cheating. You want to bet? I'm out member.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Let's bet on the next

Speaker 2 On the next one?

Speaker 2 Oh, the Texas wide receiver. Is that that's your dad?

Speaker 2 All right, bet.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 Ahmad Membu.

Speaker 2 O.T. Tap,

Speaker 2 OT, Missouri.

Speaker 2 Nigeria, huh?

Speaker 2 That's dope.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 6'4, 332. Golly.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's massive.

Speaker 2 They look at the bow.

Speaker 2 Oh, he can move. Get out.
Get out of the ball. Boy, get out the club.

Speaker 2 Good footwork.

Speaker 2 Good anchor. Oh, he anchored down.
Oh, he's nice.

Speaker 2 The question is: how long

Speaker 2 are you going to move it?

Speaker 2 That's really high for a right tackle. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, obviously, they see something.

Speaker 2 Ooh, look at him. Pass that off.

Speaker 2 He's nice.

Speaker 2 To be that big, to be that size, he's very nimble. He has good footwork.

Speaker 2 Get out the club.

Speaker 2 Well, he ain't, hey, hey, hey, he balling folks. Nice.

Speaker 2 He's balling, folks, Ocho.

Speaker 2 I like.

Speaker 2 I get it. I get it, Ocho.
Yeah. You know, they got a couple of running backs.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Take some pressure off of Justin Field. They got Brother Brees.
Brees Hall. Yeah.
Allen.

Speaker 2 I like it. Run it.

Speaker 2 Chris Olave.

Speaker 2 Who's on on the clock today?

Speaker 2 Oh, Ojo.

Speaker 2 Your guy. Wide receiver from Arizona.

Speaker 2 He's nice. He's nice.
That's a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. So I'm thinking about McMillan.

Speaker 2 What's young bull for you? You got Leggett. You got

Speaker 2 Thielen?

Speaker 2 No, I think Thielen Gong?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I like them giving him weapons.

Speaker 2 The more weapons you give a quarterback, the better he's going to be. Yes.
Yes. Like that.

Speaker 2 Pick is in.

Speaker 2 Who we got?

Speaker 2 I said that first.

Speaker 2 No, I said Macmillan first. You cheating.
Y'all cheating.

Speaker 2 Okay, next one, next one, next one. Who's on the clock?

Speaker 2 The Panthers.

Speaker 2 Oh, Shadur.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Shadur, number nine.
Let's bet.

Speaker 2 No, he didn't.

Speaker 2 Nah. Okay, number 10.
10. Who you got?

Speaker 2 Who?

Speaker 2 The running back, right?

Speaker 2 All right, let's bet. I bet you're wrong.
How much? 20 bucks?

Speaker 2 Sign hat? All right.

Speaker 2 If you lose, you got to give me your pack of jersey.

Speaker 2 I'm going to wear it anyway.

Speaker 2 It seems like

Speaker 2 the Carolinas, Carolinas, they need to receive. They need weapons.
Bryce Young needs weapons.

Speaker 2 They need weapons.

Speaker 2 I think it's gonna be Macmillan.

Speaker 2 McMillan is, I think, a smidge better. I agree.
He's really good. I agree.

Speaker 2 Big target.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 if I'm the Panthers, I'm going offensive here.

Speaker 2 I'm giving him a weapon.

Speaker 2 You know, the reports are they're going to probably, they're going to take McMillan, the wide receiver out of Arizona, had an outstanding season in All-America.

Speaker 2 Going into the season, he was rated as the best receiver in college football. He didn't disappoint.
I thought he played extremely well. He did.

Speaker 2 And the Panthers need weapons to surround Bryce Young with to make him even better. That's why I liked it.
If they take a receiver here, and if it's Macmillan, I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 2 Not at all.

Speaker 2 He's a good receiver, obviously, watching some of his rock running to a bigger target for Bryce Young. He's really good in short and intermediate routes, and he can go deep as well.

Speaker 2 The funny thing for him to be the size he is, he's very shifty. Yeah.
He's very shifty to be as big as he is. So

Speaker 2 yeah, I'm excited for him, especially for the Panthers and Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 For these commercials, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is the pick in? Oh, the pick is in. The pick is in, oh, Joe.

Speaker 2 Mexico.

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 2 Coming to the set right now is the human joystick, the great returner,

Speaker 2 Kansas City Chiefs. chiefs but returner kick returner

Speaker 2 it's gonna be it's gonna be

Speaker 2 where i think you want to be where else you want to be

Speaker 2 what's good what's good baby how you been man i've been good man life is good baby where's home i'm gonna mess you up with this one new jersey Jersey? New Jersey.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what love will do to you.

Speaker 2 That's what love will do to you.

Speaker 2 So my wife, her people are from New York, Long Island, so we decided to move up there. Okay.
Yeah, man. How family got, you know, the kids got family clothes.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 Grandma got auntie around the corner. Yeah, man.
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 So what you been doing for it lately?

Speaker 2 Man, I've been doing a little bit of everything, man. I work with the league office, with the lesbian's coordinators, that guys transition.
Right.

Speaker 2 I'm an ambassador with the Kansas City Chiefs. So I do a lot of grassroots marketing,

Speaker 2 community outreach with them.

Speaker 2 And then my wife and I, we got a little company we run. And then I do a lot of, you know, the typical stuff when you're done.
Meet your sign-ins.

Speaker 2 Right, right. So I got my hands a little bit of everything.
Staying busy.

Speaker 2 The Panthers picker.

Speaker 2 I don't know how close you follow it. You look at Bryce Young.
He got benched last year, but when he came back in, he played extremely well. Seemed like it slowed down for him.
He did a great job.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking they take a receiver here to give him a weapon to throw the ball. She need to give him an offensive lineman.

Speaker 2 If McMillan,

Speaker 2 wide receiver, you called it. You called it.
That's dope.

Speaker 2 He's a good one, too. But if you don't have time to get the ball to him,

Speaker 2 well, hey,

Speaker 2 I think they're going to quit the game, baby. Yeah.
Game, get it in and out.

Speaker 2 You go quick game, but I think the thing is, OJo, you also... Put him in a situation where now you got, you know, you got day two picks.
Here's some offensive linemen. There you go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you normally get some of your greatest offensive linemen on day two anyway. Yes.
A lot of those first runners be flaming out, don't they? True. True.

Speaker 2 Dot say what you think about the Chiefs this year.

Speaker 2 What if

Speaker 2 you were GM right now and you in the war room?

Speaker 2 What are you going to get this year to improve and help y'all? I mean, everybody knows we got to go get offensive linemen. Online.
Right. That's simple.
Go get that guy. I think it's Justin Simmons.

Speaker 2 Go get that offensive lineman if he's still there at pick 31. Definitely grab him.
And then I think we also need to go get a defensive back. So I'm looking at offensive lineman.

Speaker 2 You got to replace Justin Reed that just went to New Orleans. Got to replace him at the safety position and go get another guy.
Trent McDuffie is better in the slot.

Speaker 2 We tried to play him on the outside.

Speaker 2 I don't like him on the outside.

Speaker 2 The big receivers, man. You put the big receivers out there, they just back shouldering, throwing it up, jump balls.
He's better suited in the slot and get you a big guy on the outside.

Speaker 2 You definitely need some

Speaker 2 old lineman. Patrick did not have a whole lot of time this year.

Speaker 2 It really played itself out in the Super Bowl. It was terrible.
It was like 2020 again.

Speaker 2 All over again.

Speaker 2 Boy, he nice.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 OJo, who's your favorite receiver coming out in the draft this year? Coming out of the draft this year, my favorite receiver was Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 I mean, even though he played both sides of the ball, he was excited. I like Macmillan as well.
But for me, Trab brings that excitement. One of those players that can put butts in the seats.

Speaker 2 And it's one of those moments like when you, before they hike the ball and you on the field, I'm standing up because I don't know what the hell going to happen.

Speaker 2 That's how I see Travis Hunt. And man, how crazy for a circle this guy to get end up back in Florida where the ball began.
It's crazy. That's dope.

Speaker 2 I like this.

Speaker 2 Excuse me. I love this pick.

Speaker 2 For Carolina. You do.
I love it. I do.
I do. Because if you...
Guys started making plays for Bryce Young when he came back in there. Yeah, you're right.
You're right.

Speaker 2 Plays that they didn't make before he got in there.

Speaker 2 Now, granted, maybe the game slowed down a little bit for him. He got better, but I think the guys around him got better as well.

Speaker 2 Now, is McMillan one of those guys who's going to come in year one and make an impact? Or is he kind of defending? He's coming in right now. He should make an impact.

Speaker 2 He should make an impact right away. I don't know if he's going to be Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase.
No, no, no, no. No, he better be.
Pick eight, he better be.

Speaker 2 Pick eight.

Speaker 2 This is what they can do. They can put him in positions understanding his strengths and knowing his weaknesses and hide his weaknesses the best they can.

Speaker 2 And the more they put him in position to make plays. You know what he's good at, you know what he's not.
And that's, see, that's what NFL coaches are supposed to get paid to do.

Speaker 2 But they don't always do that. They don't do that.
Well,

Speaker 2 they spend so much time

Speaker 2 trying to tell you what you can't do. Right.
Put me in a situation what I do really good and then hide me from what I don't do.

Speaker 2 It's that simple. I mean, it's that simple.

Speaker 2 They don't know. They're going to coach what they know.
A lot of coaches can't change. What do they do? They're like, hold on.
This man's a damn good returner in all that space.

Speaker 2 Let's put him in the slot. Give him a two-way go.
You go in, you can go out, you can go straight, you can stop. But that's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 My first year, those coaches, they only coached what they knew. And the ball off, right? It was a running game type team.

Speaker 2 They really didn't know.

Speaker 2 Jet sweets.

Speaker 2 If he just sweets, it just had me returning kicks.

Speaker 2 And then Al Saunders, who was the wide receivers coach for the greatest show on Turf,

Speaker 2 they brought that offense and then they know what to do with me. Right.
Isakim type plays. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So I'm telling you, I experience, I ain't telling you what I think.
I'm telling you what I know. Coaches can change your whole trajectory of your career.
But you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 What is the wrong one?

Speaker 2 I tell guys all the time, it ain't how high you go, it's where you go.

Speaker 2 Because you can go really high with somebody don't know what the hell they're doing and you're going to be lost. And then people say you're a bus.
No, I'm not a bus.

Speaker 2 They just don't know how to use it. That's me.
100%. So I'm a sports car, and you got me hauling trash.

Speaker 2 I'm a sports car, not a dunk truck. So you got to understand what you have and how to use what you have.
Freach.

Speaker 2 What you call them hadn't drafted a quarterback? They're the only team that hadn't drafted a quarterback in the first round of the last 50 years. The Cavoise.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we got Shadur going here.

Speaker 2 Look at this.

Speaker 2 50 years. Shadur?

Speaker 2 They taking banks? What, Papas?

Speaker 2 Banks from Texas. Coward Banks.

Speaker 2 Receiver?

Speaker 2 Off of the tackle.

Speaker 2 Well, look. So they stick it with Derek Carr, basically.
But he hurt. He's hurt.

Speaker 2 So who? Who? Spencer Rattler?

Speaker 2 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 2 You know the Cowboys pick at 12.

Speaker 2 They're not going to do it.

Speaker 2 They're think so?

Speaker 2 Why not make a splash? What you gonna do with that?

Speaker 2 That on the books for about 200 and something million. One more year.
One more year? Yeah, one more year.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 Calvin Banks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, jump the gate.

Speaker 2 Jump the gate.

Speaker 2 Calvin Banks. Wow.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 what is Shador going now?

Speaker 2 But they predicted this. They say 21 to the standards.
Ooh.

Speaker 2 You know, thanks.

Speaker 2 Bro, I don't think nobody saw this. No, no, no, no.
Nobody. No.
I mean, they talk about Shador. They talk about Jackson Darr.
I don't think anybody saw this.

Speaker 2 You have to address the quarterback situation in New Orleans, and you haven't done that yet.

Speaker 2 And I thought Shador would have been a perfect fit with Kellen Moore. I did too.

Speaker 2 Normally, the offensive rookie coaches like to hiss themselves to a rookie quarterback and they're going to grow together. Yep.
He doesn't have bad habits. I can teach him.

Speaker 2 Let's see. Let's see what it looks like, OJ.

Speaker 2 Nice base, nice.

Speaker 2 Second level. Hands inside.

Speaker 2 I like that. He's nice.
I like that.

Speaker 2 Let's see what type of punch you got. Okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, wash.

Speaker 2 I want to see the punch. I got to see some pass rolls.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 Step up.

Speaker 2 Base was a little wide.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, you can't get at the angel.

Speaker 2 Some guys are too good. They're being at the end, Joe Joe.
No, they be gone. You can't get at the end, Joe, like that.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 number 11?

Speaker 2 Number 10? Okay, number 10. To where? Chicago.
Chicago.

Speaker 2 I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 They're going to be good this year.

Speaker 2 Let it out. Let it out.

Speaker 2 You got Cole Kame.

Speaker 2 You have Tyler Warren. You have Roma Doomsday.
You got DJ Moore. You got got a running back.

Speaker 2 They upgraded the offensive line.

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Speaker 2 they're doing the pick? Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is the schedule release? Oh, they talk about the schedule release. Okay.
They're not going to release it tonight.

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Speaker 2 I go to a lot of them.

Speaker 2 They got me heavily involved. It's not the right tight end.

Speaker 2 I like, I like, I like, I love the tight end from Penn State.

Speaker 2 You You think so?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 The Penn State tight end reminds me of Gronk.

Speaker 2 He's that big?

Speaker 2 Big?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Who you got number one all time? Gronk?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, and Gronk.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 So what? But

Speaker 2 if you took Gronk,

Speaker 2 I think you're the older to talk.

Speaker 2 Look, I know you played with Tony, but man, them boys special.

Speaker 2 Especially Kelsey. Kelsey was more like a wide receiver.
You know what I'm saying? He twitchy. Tony just had them hands.
Yeah. But he looked like he was going to look dope.

Speaker 2 He told me I ain't catching the crowd. I say, because I wasn't in the crowd.
You could not run nobody. You always going to be in the crowd.

Speaker 2 I was ahead of the crowd.

Speaker 2 Nigga, this corner.

Speaker 2 I can they lost your davious ward.

Speaker 2 Pick us in. Let's see.

Speaker 2 It's good. I'm dressed perfect.

Speaker 2 Hey, where's the goddamn snow?

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Steve McBeich, Hall of Fame wrote on that. That bears, the 85 Bears team.

Speaker 2 Mongo.

Speaker 2 He played on that team. Yep.

Speaker 2 Like them.

Speaker 2 Who's taking?

Speaker 2 Who we got? Come on, Commission.

Speaker 2 Commission, give it a spot to get it.

Speaker 2 Tight end? Yeah. Michigan.

Speaker 2 I like Warren from Penn State.

Speaker 2 Great hands, great run after the catch. Normally the Penn State tight ends, the one thing they can do is block.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to see the main highlights, man.

Speaker 2 Oh, here we go. Tyler Eifert.

Speaker 2 Will we take a tight end with the number 10 overall?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, look, I'm not surprised that he went in the first round. I'm surprised that he went in front of Warren.
That part.

Speaker 2 For me, I thought Warren the games that I watched him high point the ball tremendous run after the catch can block

Speaker 2 lined him up in the slot

Speaker 2 yeah oh they got a huge

Speaker 2 let's see what he what he let's see oh they got him oh run the wheel wide on him

Speaker 2 I like this nice high point okay nice high point

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I want to see some run blocking. So he's more of an F tight end.
He's more of a tiger tight end.

Speaker 2 He blocks a little bit.

Speaker 2 Oh, nice release.

Speaker 2 He's too light.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's not blocking nothing. Not at that size.
He's more of a Travis Kelsey. There you go, exactly.
And a set of short. He both, yeah.
He bought it short. He's going for the fly.
He's going for F.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 You put him in motion, make him the weak side, the tiger tight end. You make him the weak side.
I'm not putting him at the point of attack. Yeah, you don't ask him to block too many times.

Speaker 2 Well, they already got Cole Comet, though. I know.

Speaker 2 I guess they want to go to double tight set.

Speaker 2 Two tights, two tighties. I mean, two tights and two wideouts.
One running back.

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like the pick.
I like Tyler Warren a little better.

Speaker 2 I think he can do a little bit more than what I just saw. I'm not surprised that he went in the first round.
I'm surprised that he went over Tyler Warren.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure. I believe that, yes.

Speaker 2 All right. Linebacker.
Linebacker.

Speaker 2 That's the linebacker, right? Number three?

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 13. Okay.
He nice. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Look, the one thing Georgia, over the last four or five years, has put out of some linebackers. Linebackers.
the linebackers

Speaker 2 D-line, yep, every time.

Speaker 2 And they

Speaker 2 missing a long time. He got that from Nick.
If you go look at

Speaker 2 Nick, what Nick put out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Them D-line with the linebackers. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, he's an edge rusher, but

Speaker 2 what's the uh,

Speaker 2 what's the uh uh uh

Speaker 2 the edge from uh Philly

Speaker 2 last year, Ash?

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 2 You got to be, you got to look.

Speaker 2 Now in the league, because everybody play in so much space,

Speaker 2 these guys are undersized now at the edge. Because you got to be in the edge.
You got to do it because you're playing in so much space. Exactly.
It's not like when we played, man. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 The 250 days.

Speaker 2 Look, look in the Super Bowl. Andy ran the ball like 10 times.

Speaker 2 I think that would have helped Patrick in that offensive line. For sure.
Just hand it off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Look, the thing is that when they played cover two, they played every snap was cover two except one.

Speaker 2 You got to run somebody out of cover two. You can't throw up

Speaker 2 because they got a light box. But because they knew Kansas City would get impatient and Kansas City hadn't shown the propensity to run the football all year, You played right into Philly's hand.

Speaker 2 And now, when they got the lead on you,

Speaker 2 they know you're going to get impatient. And I was shocked.
Andy Reid normally gets in his stance and can make some adjustments. I was surprised by the lack of adjustments he made.

Speaker 2 But think about this. Even with adjustments, there's nothing you could do for adjusted that type of defense that's coming at you that kind of way.

Speaker 2 Even with the quick game, they were still in the backfield. If you want, let's say if you were going to make adjustments, you know what? They get into him too quick.

Speaker 2 We got to get away from play action. We got to get away from five-step drop.
He couldn't even do three-step drop. I think they go Williams.
That's why you got to run the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think they go Williams.

Speaker 2 You got Will Johnson? I think they go Williams.

Speaker 2 Edge.

Speaker 2 Didn't they release Linda Floyd? Is Linda Floyd still in? He's still in San Francisco? Ash. Ash Green.
Leonard Floyd.

Speaker 2 Got him. He's in the bathroom.
Too much water. Too much water.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 I think they're going to take,

Speaker 2 they need a cornerback. Tredavious Ward left.

Speaker 2 He's in Indy now.

Speaker 2 I like. I think they take a corner.
49ers? No, no, no. The 49ers need a corner.
But they might go edge.

Speaker 2 They like the Georgia kids.

Speaker 2 George Ward is out of there? Yeah, he's in Indy now. That's right.
That's right. But the guy that's been rising up the draft board is that Edge from Georgia.
Number 13, Williams.

Speaker 2 And you know what? Pair him with Bosa and Leonard Floyd.

Speaker 2 Because they got to get back to. Look, Robert Sala is back as a defensive coordinator.
He's back over there? That's my guy.

Speaker 2 He loves to attack the. I thought he was with the Green Bay staff.
He left the Green Bay staff? No, no, no, no. He went to Green Bay when he left the Jets.
Yeah, but no, he went to D.C. at a.

Speaker 2 Look at there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what's your door? It's only one place for him to go. Pittsburgh.
Everybody else got quarterbacks locked in.

Speaker 2 I like that for him, though. You get those two receivers that they got in Pittsburgh.
You got Mike Tumblr. You got that

Speaker 2 running back.

Speaker 2 The one.

Speaker 2 Jalen Ward is the running back now. You know, now

Speaker 2 in San Francisco. And I don't know if Jalen Ward can be every down back.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 He's at the

Speaker 2 Chargers, Majee. Yep.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Yeah. What?

Speaker 2 They got the next pick, right? They do.

Speaker 2 So what do you do with Dak? If you text your door, what do you do with Dak? Dak, you go play.

Speaker 2 Don't worry about who behind you. You just do what you're supposed to do, and

Speaker 2 you can keep him on the bench.

Speaker 2 You can keep him behind

Speaker 2 i like but i like

Speaker 2 i don't like him in that they take it they take it a defensive player i know the 49ers take it a defensive player

Speaker 2 you like will johnson i like the edge

Speaker 2 here we go

Speaker 2 Who the 49ers?

Speaker 2 Who they got?

Speaker 2 Who they took?

Speaker 2 No, they took Williams.

Speaker 2 The Edge from Georgia.

Speaker 2 Look,

Speaker 2 it's hard to go wrong taking somebody in that front center from UGA. Kirby Dunnet.

Speaker 2 Who needs a quarterback? The Diners don't need a quarterback. They got party.
And they just paid him.

Speaker 2 Oh, they need a quarterback. They do.

Speaker 2 When they say, well, you ain't got to hold up long.

Speaker 2 Cowboys on the clock. Cowboy select Shador Sanders.

Speaker 2 No?

Speaker 2 The old

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 2 They need O-line.

Speaker 2 Zach Martin left.

Speaker 2 Booker, they take Alabama's tackle.

Speaker 2 What? You need to be able to run the football and you need to be able to protect Dak.

Speaker 2 That's a good pick. That's a good pick.

Speaker 2 Now what we need is for Jerry to make a splash and trade for Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 Booker.

Speaker 2 Alabama.

Speaker 2 He was what? He was the third rate. He was the second-rated tackle

Speaker 2 behind Campbell.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's nice. Really nice at the point of attack.
Give me that. Oh, he's sudden.
He'll strike you now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Good hands. Good hands.
That's what I saw. Hey, good hands.
Look at Mr. Bianca.
Black's on, blacks off.

Speaker 2 Oh, baby sudden.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 2 That's dope. They're taking Booker.

Speaker 2 Is it?

Speaker 2 No, they're not taking a linebacker. I bet you they take one.

Speaker 2 You remember our Overstreet got hurt? And they were small at the linebacker position, too. They were real small.

Speaker 2 Michael Williams.

Speaker 2 Cowboys pick us in. We're about to find out.

Speaker 2 Shadur.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Say about linebacker from Alabama.

Speaker 2 He'll take a kicker.

Speaker 2 They got the best kick in football, a one of them.

Speaker 2 Guard, that's who they're taking. Cotton?

Speaker 2 Who they're taking?

Speaker 2 Is it the Bama guard?

Speaker 2 Alabama, Tyler Booker. Tyler Booker.
Okay. Booker.

Speaker 2 You see? That's a good one.

Speaker 2 Pair him with Tyler Smith.

Speaker 2 Tyler Smith, they'll probably kick Tyler Smith back out the left tackle. That'll be a good move.
And then put him at guard. To replace Zach.
Yep.

Speaker 2 That's dope.

Speaker 2 Alabama going to have some draft picks now. What they Alabama gonna do now? Alabama gonna have some.
Alabama, Georgia. Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 That SEC? Big boy in shape, too. Check him out.

Speaker 2 Cause think about it.

Speaker 2 Will Campbell. Yep.
Went for

Speaker 2 the Missouri OT. I don't know the Missouri.

Speaker 2 Who's the Missouri?

Speaker 2 He went like seven.

Speaker 2 Here he is.

Speaker 2 I like it. Georgia guy.

Speaker 2 He's gonna pick him.

Speaker 2 So, 12, so four of the top 12 picks from the SEC

Speaker 2 offensive linemen, two offensive two offensive linemen, yeah. So, we got three offensive linemen and a and a edge rusher.
What is offense going? No, what you guys need?

Speaker 2 I mean, oh my goodness,

Speaker 2 a little bit everything, defense. Well, you're trying, you're trying to move Jalen Ramsey.
Yes, but if you move Jalen Ramsey, you're probably gonna need somebody to replace it.

Speaker 2 Do you take whip whip

Speaker 2 Howard?

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think. I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 2 Where do you think Miami should go?

Speaker 2 Corner? That's what I'm saying? Yeah. You like the corner from Michigan?

Speaker 2 He's nice.

Speaker 2 I don't understand why they're trying to move Ramsey.

Speaker 2 Price tag. That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 But the production is still there.

Speaker 2 Is it?

Speaker 2 You played a lot of money for Tour. You paid a lot of money for Tyreek.
You played a lot of money for

Speaker 2 Waddle. Waddle.

Speaker 2 So the odd man out and is your best cover man?

Speaker 2 Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 What are the Dolphins taking?

Speaker 2 Dolphins, what are the Dolphins lead?

Speaker 2 Corner linebacker. Dolphins, what are the Dolphins taking?

Speaker 2 Down the clock, everything.

Speaker 2 Unfortunately, you can't get one of everything. You get one of something.

Speaker 2 Come on, Miami. Don't mess.
Don't mess up. Don't mess up.

Speaker 2 What

Speaker 2 you got to keep it up there for the time being? After the show, we can give you that, okay? Okay.

Speaker 2 One behind me. Huh?

Speaker 2 No, no, no. We don't want to start that.

Speaker 2 No, we we don't want to start that.

Speaker 2 I'm like, now I'm interested. Where are the Dolphins going, Ocho? I have no idea.
Folks know they don't need a wide receiver. No, we got to go defense.
We got to go defense.

Speaker 2 They don't need a receiver. Obviously, no, they don't need a quarterback.
They could go offensive line. Yeah.
Keep Tua upright. You never know.
You got to replace Jalen Ramsey being at

Speaker 2 the end of him being on the trade block. So I'm curious.
Will Howard was proud of the...

Speaker 2 he is the highest-graded corner. Yes, sir.
For Michigan. Well, no, look, he's the second highest-graded corner.
Who's first? Trav was the highest-graded corner. Okay.

Speaker 2 So I would not be surprised if this

Speaker 2 Dolphins take a corner here. Because I agree with you.
I think they need defense. Ordo Lyman.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You got running back with HN?

Speaker 2 You good there? You said.

Speaker 2 Most of it's going now. Hold on.
What about Tyler Warren at tight end?

Speaker 2 Oh, oh,

Speaker 2 Will Johnson. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's Jalen Miller right there.

Speaker 2 Will Johnson.

Speaker 2 It's not on there yet.

Speaker 2 Cowboys get... Cowboys got their guy to replace Zach Martin.
You had Zach Martin a staple

Speaker 2 a long, long time. What he's in the Johnny Manzale draft 2016.

Speaker 2 When a lot of people thought they were going to take Johnny Manzale, they take Zach Martin and they get a seven, eight-time first-team all-pro, seven, eight-time Pro Bowl player. Unbelievable career.

Speaker 2 But as much as they ran the ball, he was in a lot of collisions. A lot of who that? Zach Martin.
You know, he retired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So you get somebody to replace him.

Speaker 2 You bump Tyler Smith probably back out to left tackle. Okay.
You keep Terrence still still at right tackle. You run the football a little more.
You got Javante Williams.

Speaker 2 Now, you got somebody to protect Dak, keep him up right. Hopefully, he can stay healthy.
You know, and I know, they're not gonna win until Jerry Jones is up out of the app.

Speaker 2 Well, he ain't going nowhere. Well, well, it don't matter who they are.

Speaker 2 It don't matter who they are. No time soon.
It don't matter. But let me ask you this: what if they make a trade? Because I told Ocho, I said, what if they make a trade and they trade for Tyreek?

Speaker 2 I love Tyreek.

Speaker 2 But is Tyreek still that difference maker? Is he still at difference maker? Absolutely. He's still at difference maker.

Speaker 2 You cannot forget just because one season when Tua was out and the numbers suffered, ain't nothing wrong with me. He's still that guy.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 I love the cheetah, but

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's the move that Dallas needs.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. I don't think so.
I don't think that's the move. For the right price, what's the asking price? Just take over the contract.
It's a trade, right? Yeah. Just take a picture.

Speaker 2 What compensation are we giving? We give up a third rounder. We give up a fourth rounder.
Third round. Tyreek is about a third round.
Third round right now. What are you giving up?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I ain't giving up nothing. No, hell.
Second? No way. Third round.
Third round picker beat.

Speaker 2 We talk about you not getting up a second rounder for the be still the most dynamic receiver just because he had one offseason because his quarterback was hurt.

Speaker 2 What are we talking?

Speaker 2 I give you a third fourth. I give you a third.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 And I missed him fifth. Hold on.
Well, he just had 1,800 the year before last.

Speaker 2 I give you a fourth that can turn into a third.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 I give you a fourth. Is it Tyreek still your top five reception?

Speaker 2 You take absolutely

Speaker 2 over Justin Jefferson? I just say over. You said top five.
No precision. No, no particular order.
I'm going to give you five, five. I think I can give you five better than you.

Speaker 2 Give me five better right now. Justin Jefferson.
That's one. Jamar Chase.
That's two. What's my man with the Rams? Puka.
Puka.

Speaker 2 You putting Puka Naku over Tyreek Hill off of one season? Nah, Puka had two seasons. Okay, two seasons.
Two seasons?

Speaker 2 What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 Give me a net. Keep going.
That's three. You like Devontae? Not at this stage.
Okay. Not at this stage.
Talk to me. Not at this stage.
Not at the stage.

Speaker 2 A.J. Brown? Not it? No.
Tyler McLaurin?

Speaker 2 Who you like?

Speaker 2 We are talking about Tyreek Hill. Leslie, come on now.
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 Nico Harris?

Speaker 2 Nico Collins. Nico Collins.
No. Yeah, please don't miss Nico Harrison.

Speaker 2 Come on. Yeah.
Come on, D, come on now. Oh, the Dolphins pick her in.

Speaker 2 Woo! Okay. DT.

Speaker 2 They went defense.

Speaker 2 Michigan. Grant.

Speaker 2 Wait, where is he from? Michigan.

Speaker 2 Another Michigan?

Speaker 2 And Grant was the.

Speaker 2 I like.

Speaker 2 I thought they would go Will Johnson. I thought they'd go corner because, you know, the situation with Jalen Ramsey.
But I like this pen. You know, they, what you call them, left.

Speaker 2 The big, what's his name? Well, he went back to

Speaker 2 the Cardinals.

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Calleos. Yeah.
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Speaker 2 Let's see what they get. Let's see what they get.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 6'3 ⁇ , 331. God, damn.

Speaker 2 Let's see what he got.

Speaker 2 Oh, quick.

Speaker 2 That was a nice little move.

Speaker 2 Look like Big Sam Adams with that quick first step. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Big Sam play with me over in Cincinnati. Swear he had the quickest feet, boy.
Yeah, I don't know. He He swear.

Speaker 2 Well, I got the quickest first step ever.

Speaker 2 Oh, big. Oh, oh.

Speaker 2 Ooh.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's powerful inside. He quick.

Speaker 2 Nice post.

Speaker 2 No, you better not go catch him.

Speaker 2 You better not go. He went.

Speaker 2 You better not go catch him.

Speaker 2 And he can run a little bit. Oh, my God.
A lot of bit.

Speaker 2 Man, you better not go in the meeting room on Monday. Do you let a D-tackle you hold on that's all i ask a panic like hold on at 331 at damn yes

Speaker 2 oh my goodness

Speaker 2 warren that's a good one i like that that's a good one i love that

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 he'll he'll be like he'll be like a clark dallas clark yes remember dallas clark we had yes we had had Payton, Stokely.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 I Said that first.

Speaker 2 I love that pick. I love that pick for the Colts.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Think about it.

Speaker 2 The quarterback went first, and the quarterback hadn't gone again.

Speaker 2 That's wild.

Speaker 2 The first 14 picks in 24 was offense. Now you got nine offense, five defense.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's a no-brainer. It's a really good pick.
A very good pick,

Speaker 2 especially for Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 2 Very, very good pick. The problem is that the guys that's on the clock right now don't need quarterbacks.
So if you didn't go to Cleveland, the Giants. That's what he was saying.

Speaker 2 If he doesn't go nine, nobody else needs a quarterback until 21. But do

Speaker 2 the Steelers take him? 100%? Yes, I believe they do. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 what nobody,

Speaker 2 you look at all the picks that was from 10 to 21, then nobody needed a quarterback. Everybody done spend big money on a quarterback.
New Orleans needed a quarterback. Yes, they did.

Speaker 2 But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Okay, he doesn't go nine to New Orleans, then what? Okay, if he doesn't go 21 to the Steelers, then what? Oh, Lord. I don't even want to think about that.
He's going to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 See, I like Warren. I like Warren.
I really like Warren.

Speaker 2 It's the same number that Dallas Clark was, too. Yeah, was it? Look at that.

Speaker 2 Get out of here. That's a DB.
That don't count.

Speaker 2 Hey.

Speaker 2 I like this for Anthony Richardson because it gives him a security. It gives him security.
I hand it to him. I hand it to him.
Get going, son. Get going to get gone, son.

Speaker 2 That's against Ohio State, too. Yes.
He's nice. He likes a Swiss Army knife at the quarterback.
I mean,

Speaker 2 tight end position. Did he just throw the ball? Yeah, he left it.
Doing some everything.

Speaker 2 Who took him, the Colts? Yep. I like that pick, too.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Six.

Speaker 2 Nice. Look at this.

Speaker 2 Off the helmet. Moss.
Give me that.

Speaker 2 Nah, yeah.

Speaker 2 That's Moss all day.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like this pick.
Look, Mo Alec Cox getting a little up on age now. I mean, he had a great career, a few undrafted free agents, came out of BCU as a basketball player.

Speaker 2 We know the success basketball players have coming into the NFL. Tony Gonzalez was a basketball player.
Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates was a basketball player.
Timmy Graham was a basketball player.

Speaker 2 So we know the success that these guys have coming in. But okay, now it's, you know, let's go.
We need more production at that position. I like the, you know what?

Speaker 2 And they got some good receivers around him.

Speaker 2 I like, you like Pittman Jr. I do like, I do like Pittman Jr.
I do. I like him a lot.

Speaker 2 Falcons, what you like, what you take as a falcon, Will Johnson. I'll take you, Johnson.

Speaker 2 Who you got? Linebacker? Linebacker.

Speaker 2 I like Will to go outside of the side of AJ Terrell.

Speaker 2 I like it. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 You got to deal with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans. You got Olave and

Speaker 2 Rashad Shahi. Yeah, Rashid Shahi.
Yeah. Bro,

Speaker 2 you got him.

Speaker 2 Carolina just took a receiver. Yeah.

Speaker 2 McMillan. They got Leggett.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Adam Thielen.

Speaker 2 You taking a corner, you taking a linebacker? Corner.

Speaker 2 I would too. Taking a corner.

Speaker 2 Jeff O'Dool. What you like in this pick here? Let's go, baby.

Speaker 2 Atlanta, what? Let me see. You got Pennix, Jeff O'Cooler, and F.
Okuda is gone, right? Jeff O'Cooler left Atlanta, didn't he? Who's that? Jeff O'Cooler, the DB.

Speaker 2 I'm not familiar, yo. Joe.

Speaker 2 I like,

Speaker 2 I definitely think the Falcons should go defense.

Speaker 2 Yeah, scoring points wasn't their issue last year. No, stopping people.
Stopping people was. Just like my you-know-who.

Speaker 2 Who they.

Speaker 2 oh

Speaker 2 i like this

Speaker 2 oh joe what you would have did if you had uh joe barrow as your quarterback same thing i did with carson carson was a beast yeah

Speaker 2 had some fun

Speaker 2 you gotta think we've they they passed the ball like crazy today bri

Speaker 2 like crazy that's different thing during our era coming back when you play rudy johnson remember rudy from all boys i remember Rudy. Yeah, old Rudy.
Then we had Cedric Benson.

Speaker 2 When I first got there, it was Corey. Corey Dylan was there.
Corey Dillon. That's who I was there.
And I was a rookie. And then he went to New England after that, right? Yeah.
Ran the ball. Boy, do I.

Speaker 2 Do I.

Speaker 2 Hey, boy, that.

Speaker 2 Clinton Hornets. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 Who y'all had that running back when you were here? Yeah, Priest. Priest Holmes.

Speaker 2 He came back though with y'all with Larry Johnson.

Speaker 2 That's right. Boy, Priest was so smooth.
Man. Hey, him and Among Green got the the prettiest running style, bro.
Oh, my God. Priest was with me in Baltimore when I first got to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 That's right. He was a backup to Jamal Lewis.
Jamal Lewis. That's right.
Jamal was there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I say, man, people don't realize how good Priest is.

Speaker 2 And Priest backed up

Speaker 2 Ricky Williams at UT, made that big play in the Big 12 championship game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Priest was.

Speaker 2 He went out of the city.

Speaker 2 And again, and again, got with

Speaker 2 the chiefs, Al Sanders, Dick Vermill, brought that greatest show on turf offense, and he took me

Speaker 2 back, Marsha Falk,

Speaker 2 exactly.

Speaker 2 That's crazy, the priest.

Speaker 2 I'm Louis, Ray Lewis.

Speaker 2 Nobody in this draft. Not in this draft,

Speaker 2 Dante, appreciate you stopping.

Speaker 2 Thank you, bro. All the best, man.
I'll see you down. Likewise, man.
Good to see you, boys.

Speaker 2 Hey, he ready?

Speaker 2 Okay, get mic'd up.

Speaker 2 Look at this. So there's your best players.

Speaker 2 They got Jalen Walker, Will Johnson, Omaria Hampton, and Josh Simmons.

Speaker 2 You think they take Josh Simmons?

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 coming to the stage to join us now. NFL Hall of Famer missed one snap in his whole career.

Speaker 2 Slim Chill, John Tombless.

Speaker 2 Whatever you want to say that, bro.

Speaker 2 Joe, you look good, baby. You guys looking good, man.
So let me ask.

Speaker 2 How much did you play at when you played?

Speaker 2 About 320. 320.

Speaker 2 What? Yeah. You made a concerted effort.
You say, once I'm done with football, I'm going down to what number? 250. When I was 18, I was 250, and I said, that's where I want to get to when I retire.

Speaker 2 So how long did it it take you to get 70 pounds off? Six months. So, what did you do? Would you change your diet? Exercise? Yeah, so I stopped eating all carbs.
Okay. I really got into swimming.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Because swimming is really hard. Yeah.
Especially when you're big-boned, good guy. I was fighting drowning the whole time.
It's really hard. It is.

Speaker 2 So when you exert yourself like that, I was just conscious of what I ate. But also, I had to eat a lot to be able to be 320.
Right.

Speaker 2 So in other words, you're really not a naturalist. You're a big guy, but not an old

Speaker 2 guy. Big by normal humanity standards.

Speaker 2 But by NFL alignment standards, I was small. I had to eat myself into that body.

Speaker 2 How hard is it for you to stay at this size based on the structure? It's not too bad. It's not too bad.

Speaker 2 The only time it's really challenging is if I close my eyes and still think I'm a lineman when I pull myself up to the kitchen table and I got like five plates. Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I just got to make sure that's like once a month. You know, you just got to make sure it's not every day.
Okay. Your team, the the Cleveland Browns, they trade back,

Speaker 2 pick up an extra couple of draft picks, even a first round of next year. You like the move.
So

Speaker 2 from a mathematical standpoint, you know, you look at the draft charts and like the trade charts. Right.
It was a really good trade for the Feds. But you lost out on Travis Hunter.
That hurts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because, you know, he's such a... Vaccaroon guy.
He's a cultured guy. He loves the game.
You hope he'd be there for 15 years and be that leader in that Vakero you need right.

Speaker 2 And shit, he could play two positions. Yes, he could play receiver for the every one, two for the press one.
You can't pay him two contracts.

Speaker 2 Everybody needs more receivers. Everybody needs more corners.
Yes, I would have liked him, but I still think I like the guy they got to be able to pair with Miles Garrett. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The pick is in for the uh the Falcons. Look like they're going with the Edge guy from uh Georgia.

Speaker 2 Jayon Walker.

Speaker 2 Yeah, linebacker. He did say linebacker.

Speaker 2 I thought they were. Look, we thought they were going off defense.
I thought they were going to go. Bill Johnson or linebacker.
Hometown kid.

Speaker 2 Played at the University of Georgia, Salisbury, North Carolina.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Right at home. I like that suit.
What do we think about that drip? I like it.

Speaker 2 He's looking good.

Speaker 2 The guys get

Speaker 2 dressing. Dressing is a thing now.
It is. When I came in the league, hey, guys come in with swears.
You know, see that.

Speaker 2 Guys coming in with Herman's bags, go-yard, drip down. I didn't want to be thinking about that at all.
When we traveled, the same red polo and khaki pants.

Speaker 2 Every time I didn't have to think about it, didn't want to worry about it. No, you saved a lot of money, dude.
You saved a lot of money.

Speaker 2 The Taylors didn't like me very much. You like this pick? You like this pick for the Falcons joke? I think it's good.

Speaker 2 You know, adding edge pressure, a guy that's flexible, that you can do a lot of things. You know, as a defensive coordinator, you like those guys that you can fit all over the place.

Speaker 2 You can fill little packages for him to be able to get after the quarterback, drop into coverage if you want him to be able to get into some of those zone drops.

Speaker 2 And obviously, he's a dude. Oh, yeah.
The one thing about Georgia: if you look at them, they're going to have some edge rushers, linebackers, and D-tackles. Oh, yeah.
They're going to have those.

Speaker 2 Kirby took a page out of Nick Sabers because you know in Alabama. He had DT, edge, and linebacker.
Yeah, you got to win up front. You got to have a solid front seven.

Speaker 2 Look at this close.

Speaker 2 Look at that speed right there.

Speaker 2 They must have a good strength coach because all them dudes are huge, fast, strong. Aren't they? Look at that.
He got held.

Speaker 2 They like their linebackers six foot six one, 230, 245, as high as they go. Able to go sideline.
Yeah, yeah, man. They go hunting.

Speaker 2 Those guys go hunting.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, he knows it. He's pumped.
Hometown guy. Get to stay home.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's from North Carolina, but think about it. Athens is that's just an hour away.
So he's from the same house. It's funny.

Speaker 2 How far is it Georgia, George? Athens is about

Speaker 2 from where he practices probably

Speaker 2 30 minutes, 40 minutes. He's got to do nothing.
Right.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 they practice up in Fliery Bridge. Right.

Speaker 2 Beautiful.

Speaker 2 I like this. I like this pick.
You know, you got a quarterback. They got good receivers.
They got Kyle Pierce. They're tight end.
Kyle needs to bounce back. Yeah.
He had that great rookie season, Joe.

Speaker 2 He needs to bounce back. He needs to put some seasons together now.
Yeah, I think for him, he needs just consistency of the quarterback play, right? Right. You know what it's like.

Speaker 2 If you got a different quarterback in there, it just takes some time to be able to build that rapport.

Speaker 2 There have been a few receivers that have been able to manage the quarterback carousel. But for a tight end like, yeah, for a tight end like Pitts, he needs the consistency at that position.

Speaker 2 Getting hurt as well, messing up ACL, it doesn't help you. Right.

Speaker 2 What do you think about the Cardinals? What are the Cardinals? But what do the Cardinals lead? Oh, Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 Who is it? He likes Will Johnson. Johnson, cornerback from Michigan.
We'll see. I don't know.
I think that'd be a pretty good pick.

Speaker 2 Once you start getting into the middle rounds, if you're not targeting a quarterback, you take the best available.

Speaker 2 You don't try to pick a guy based on what you need. You just pick football players.

Speaker 2 That's where it gets hard at. I know.

Speaker 2 You know what happens? You end up picking, okay, I picked the best available player. Is it Murphy's? And then some guy

Speaker 2 comes behind him, and he's a seven-time all-pro.

Speaker 2 If I'd have known that, I would have taken it.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 they're standing up. Pick is in.
There we go. They're not wasting any time.
As what we're looking like with the pick.

Speaker 2 Will Johnson. He said, here, what's your name?

Speaker 2 Amir says, Will Johnson.

Speaker 2 I told him that first. Amir Stradamis.

Speaker 2 I told him that first, Joe.

Speaker 2 Cheats. All right, you're cheating.

Speaker 2 As what we're hearing.

Speaker 2 Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 We were talking to Dante. I said, look, and everybody was saying this.
If Shador

Speaker 2 doesn't go to New Orleans at nine, nobody else until they get to 21 needs a quarterback.

Speaker 2 So you could see a precipitous fall.

Speaker 2 But I tell people all the time, Joe, it's not. How high you go, it's where you go.

Speaker 2 Where you go is more important than going high. And I said, look, I know it's your dream.
Oh, I want to go number one. I want to go this.
But you go to the wrong situation. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be in trouble. Well, the other thing is, you know,

Speaker 2 in your mind, you're like, I want to make the most money. I want to be the drafted highest.
It's such a small amount of difference at this part of the draft.

Speaker 2 And plus, as a quarterback, you make your money on your second deal anyway. So go to the best situation, even if it's in the second round, right? Where they can build a round.

Speaker 2 Everybody, your money is in your second contract now. So it's not how much money, it's how long you make money.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You can make money for four years or you can make money for 14. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Wow. I'm going to bring some out.

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I raise my own cattle. I brought some sticks for you guys.
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