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Nightcap - Hour 2: Nightcap LIVE from 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay!

Nightcap - Hour 2: Nightcap LIVE from 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay!

April 25, 2025 1h 3m Episode 411 Explicit

Join Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson LIVE from Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin to react to the 2025 NFL Draft. Tap in with Unc & Ocho to see where top prospects Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, and Shedeur Sanders are selected!

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I really like this. I really like this pick for the Raiders.
Yeah, a lot. It's big for the Raiders.
A lot. To me, for me, it takes all the pressure off the quarterback.
Because when all hell break loose, hand it off. You live to see another day.
You live to see another down. And plus, I want to keep Patrick Mahomes out the field.
Mm-hmm. I think that's the best way to beat him.
You saw what the Eagles did. The Eagles had the ball so much, he couldn't get a rhythm.
And then to have a running back like this, they can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere. Oh, yeah.
That's nice. He's extremely.
Look at this. Oh, that's his high school.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He could have made it some.
You know, a lot of teams wanted to jump into the portal. Uh-huh.
He probably could have made it a couple million, but he's like, you know what? I started here. I'm going to finish.
I'm going to finish. I'm going to finish.
I'm going to finish. I'm going to finish.
I'm going to finish. I want to start when I finish.
I like that. You can do that when you're special.
You can do that when you're special.

It don't matter where you go.

It's what you do once you get there.

He's one of them understood.

I can stay where I'm at, and I'm going to be fine.

He was sensational.

He was.

Yeah.

I like this.

Where are the jazz going?

Who are the jazz taking?

Memu? Where is he from? Missouri? Oh, the wide receiver. O-lineman? To the Jets? I like Tyler Warren to the Jets.
I like Warren. You don't like him? They got the, if you talk about Conklin, they got, I like Tyler Warren,

but Tyler's 7 is a little high.

You think that's too high?

That's a little high for a tight end.

No, he's good.

Now, he's, you don't think he's like high? That's a little high for a tight end. No, he's good.
Now, he's –

You don't think he's like Brock Bauer?

Yeah, he's Brock Bauer's good.

You like that?

Yeah.

You don't think so?

Yeah.

He's nice.

Man, Brock was – from Brock's freshman year, Brock could have came out in his freshman year.

Right.

He's that good.

Yeah.

Did Jeff need anyone?

Who they thinking?

Yeah.

I already am.

I don't need the jacket.

Ash, what we looking like?

Ash.

Wow. Wow.
Wow

Wow

Old lineman from Missouri

That's what the speculation is

You don't like that?

No

You gotta protect him

Where would you prefer them to go?

Tight end

Thank you. You don't like that? No.
You got to protect him. Where would you prefer them to go?

Tight end.

Tight end.

More weapons.

More weapons.

You don't think 7 is a lot?

Absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

Huh?

I can't hear you.

Wait, who are they picking? That's cheating. You want to bet? Ahmad Membro.
Yeah. Alright, let's bet on the next pick.
On the next one? On the Texas wide receiver? Is that your dad?

All right.

Bet.

Ooh, I like that.

Ahmad Membu.

OT Missouri.

Nigerian, huh? That's dope. Well, 6'4", 3'32".
Golly. He massive.
Ooh, they're looking at him. Oh, he can move.
Get out the club, boy. Get out the club.
Good footwork. Good anchor.
Oh, he anchored down. Oh, he nice.
The question is, how long are you going to move it?

That's really high for a right tackle.

Yeah.

Well, obviously, they see something.

Ooh, look at him pass that off.

Be nice.

To be that big, to be that size, he's very nimble.

He has good footwork. Ooh.

Get out the club.

Well, he mauling folks.

Nice.

He's mauling folks, Ocho.

I like.

I get it.

I get it, Ocho.

Yeah.

You know they got a couple of running backs.

Yes.

Take some pressure off of Justin Fields.

They got brother Brees.

Brees Hall. Yeah.
Allen. of Justin Fields.
You got Brother Brees. Brees Hall.

Yeah.

Allen.

I like it.

Run it.

I like it.

You got Chris Olave.

Who's on the clock today?

Oh, Joe.

You got wide receiver from Arizona. Woo? He's nice.
He's nice. That's a good one.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
So I'm thinking about McMillan, who, what's Young Bull? You got Leggett? You got Thielen. No, I think Thielen ain't gone.

But I like them giving him weapons.

Right.

The more weapons you give him quarterback, the better he's going to be.

Yes.

Yes.

Like that.

Pick is in.

Who we got?

I said that first.

No, I said McMillian first.

You're cheating.

Y'all cheating.

Okay, next one, next one, next one.

Who's on the clock?

The Panthers?

Saints.

Ooh, Shadour.

Yeah, Shadour, number nine, let's bet.

Let's bet.

No, he didn't.

Nah.

Okay, number Okay, 10.

10.

Who you got? Who? The running back, right? All right, let's bet. I bet you wrong.
How much? 20 bucks. Sign hat? All right.
If you lose, you got to give me your Packard jersey. I'm going to wear it anyway.
It seems like the Carolinas, Carolinas, they need to receive.

They need weapons.

Bryce Young needs weapons.

Yeah.

They need weapons.

I think it's going to be McMillan.

McMillan is, I think, a smidge better.

I agree. He'sidge better.
I agree.

He's really good.

I agree.

Big target.

Yeah, if I'm the Panthers, I'm going offensive here.

I'm giving them a weapon. You know, the reports are they're going to probably take McMillan, the wide receiver out of Arizona.
Had an outstanding season, an All-American. Going into the season, he was rated as the best receiver in college football.
He didn't disappoint. I thought he played extremely well.
He did. And the Panthers need weapons to surround Bryce Young with to make him even better.

So I like it.

If they take a receiver here and if it's McMillan, I don't have a problem with that.

Not at all.

He's a good receiver, obviously, watching some of his rock running too.

A bigger target for Bryce Young.

He's really good in short and intermediate routes, and he can go deep as well.

The funny thing for him to be the size he is, he's very shifty.

He's very shifty to be as big as he is.

So, yeah, I'm excited for him, especially for the Panthers and Bryce Young.

Let's get these commercials, man.

Yeah.

Is the pick in?

Oh, the pick is in.

The pick is in, Ojo. He's a Mexico.

I like it.

Coming to the set right now is the human joystick, the great returner,

Kansas City Chiefs.

What returner?

Can't return it.

It's going to be it.

It's going to be it.

Where else do you want to be?

Where else do you want to be?

What's good?

What's good, baby?

How you doing, man?

I've been good, man. Life is good, baby.
Where's home? I'm finna mess you up with this one. New Jersey.
Jersey? New Jersey. Boy, that's what love would do to you.
That's what love would do to you. So my wife, her people are from New York, Long Island, so we decided to make life up there.
Okay. Yeah, man.
Our family got, you know, the kids got family clothes. Exactly.
Grandma got auntie around the corner. Yeah, man.
I like that. I like that.
So what you been doing for it lately? Man, I've been doing a little bit of everything, man. I work with the league office with the lessons coordinators, help guys transition.
Right. I'm an ambassador with the Kansas City Chiefs, so I do a lot of grassroots marketing, community outreach with them.
And then my wife and I, we got a little company we run. And then I do a lot of, you know, the typical stuff when you're done.
Media, sign-ins, the typical stuff. So I got my hands on a little bit of everything.
Staying busy. The Panthers pick are in.
I don't know how close you follow it. You look at Bryce Young.
He got benched last year, but when he came back in, he played extremely well. Seems anyways, it slowed down for him.
He did a great job. I'm thinking they'd take a receiver here to give him a weapon to throw the ball to.
They need to give him an offensive lineman. It's McMillan.
My receiver, you called it. You called it.
That's dope.

He's a good one, too.

But you don't have time to get the ball to him.

Well, I bet they're going to

quit game, baby.

Get in and out.

You're going to quit game, but I think

the thing is, Ocho, you also

put him in a situation where you got

day two picks.

Here's my offensive linemen. There you go.

You know him against some of your greatest offensive linemen

on day two anyway. Yes.

Thank you. Put them in a situation where now you got day two picks.
Give them some offensive linemen. There you go.
Yeah, you know them to get some of your greatest offensive linemen on day two anyway. Yes.
A lot of those first runners be flaming out, don't they? True, true. D'Ate, what you think about the Chiefs this year? What if you were GM right now and you're in the war room, what are you going to get this year to improve and help you out? I mean, everybody knows we got to go get offensive linemen.
Old line. Right.
That's simple. Go get that guy.
I think it's Justin Simmons. Go get that offensive lineman if he's still there at pick 31.
Definitely grab him. And then I think we also need to go get a defensive back.
So I'm looking at offensive linemen. You got to replace Justin Reed that just went to New Orleans.
Got to replace him at the safety position and go get another guy.

Trent McDuffie is better in the slot.

We tried to put him on the outside.

I don't like him on the outside.

The big receivers, man.

You put the big receivers out there, they just back shoulder

and throwing it up, jump ball.

He's better suited in the slot

and get you a big guy on the outside.

You definitely need some

old linemen. Patrick did

not have a whole lot of time this year.

It really played itself out in the Super Bowl. It was terrible.
It was like 2020 against Tampa Bay. All over again.
Boy, he nice. Yeah.
Ocho, who's your favorite receiver coming out in the draft this year coming out in the draft this year my favorite receiver was Travis Hunter I mean even though he played both sides of the ball he was exciting I like McMillan as well but for me Trav brings that excitement one of those players that can put butts in the seats and it's one of those moments like when you before they hike the ball and you on the field I'm standing up because know what the hell is going to happen. He's definitely that guy.
That's how I see Travis Hunt. And, man, how crazy.
Full circle this guy to get in there back in Florida. Where it all began.
That's crazy. That's dope.
I like this – excuse me. I love this pick for Carolina.
You do. I love it.
I do. I do.
Because if you – guys started making plays for Bryce Young when he came back in there. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. Plays that they didn't make before he got in there.
Yeah. Now, granted, maybe the game slowed down a little bit for him.
He got better. But I think the guys around him got better as well.
Man, is McMillan one of those guys who doesn't come in year one and make an impact, or is he kind of developing? He's coming in right now. He should make an impact.
He should make an impact right away. I don't know if he's going to be Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase.
No, no, no. He better be.
Pick eight he better be. Pick eight.
This is what they can do. They can put him in positions understanding his strengths and knowing his weaknesses and hide his weaknesses the best they can and the more we put in a position to make plays.
You know what he's good at.

You know what he's not.

And that's what NFL coaches are supposed to get paid to do.

Right.

But they don't always do that. Well, they spend so much time trying to tell you what you can't do.

Right.

Put me in a situation where I do really good,

and then hide me from what I don't do.

It's that simple.

It's that simple.

It's that simple.

Some coaches, they're going to coach what they know. They're going to coach what they know.
A lot of coaches can't change. What do they do? They're like, hold on.
This man's a damn good returner in all that space. Let's put him in the slot.
Give him a two-way go. You go in, you can go out, you can go straight, you can stop.
But that's what I'm telling you. My first year, those coaches, they only coached what they knew.
Right. Hand the ball off.

Right.

It was a running game type team.

They really didn't know how. Run your jet sweeps.

They didn't even give me jet sweeps.

It just had me returning kicks.

Right.

And then Al Saunders, who was the wide receivers coach for the greatest show on turf.

Yes.

They brought that offense, and then they know what to do with me.

Right.

As I came type plays.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

So I'm telling you, I experience.

They tell you what I think.

I'm telling you what I know.

Right.

cultures can change your

Thank you. They brought that offense, and then they know what to do with me.
Right. As I came type plays.
Yeah. Right? Yeah.
So I'm telling you, I experience it. I ain't telling you what I think.
I'm telling you what I know. Right.
Coaches can change your whole trajectory of your career. You did with the wrong one? I tell guys all the time, it ain't how high you go.
It's where you go. Yes.
Because you can go really high when somebody don't know what the hell they're doing, and you're going to be lost. And then people say you a bust.
No, I'm not a bust. Right.
They just know how to use me. 100%.
I'm a sports car and you got me hauling trash. I'm a sports car, not a dump truck.
So you got to understand what you have and how to use what you have. Preach.
What you call them hadn't drafted a quarterback? They're the only team that hadn't drafted a quarterback in the first round in the last 50 years. The Cowboys.
So we got Shadour going here. Because think about it.
Look at this. 50 years.
Shadour. They taking Banks? What? Banks from Texas.
Cow Calvin Banks. Receiving?

Off of the tackle.

Well, look.

So they stick him with Derrick Carr, basically.

But he's hurt.

He's hurt.

So who?

Spencer Rattler?

Although, you know the Cowboys pick at 12.

They not going through. But they, hey.
They're the tackle going to do it. But they, hey, hey.

They're not going to do it.

You think so?

Why not make a splash?

What you going to do with Dak?

Dak on the books for about 200 and something million.

One more year.

One more year?

Yeah, one more year.

Oh, that's a good one.

Calvin Banks.

Yeah, jump the gate.

Jump the gate. Calvin Banks.
Yeah, jump the gate. Jump the gate.

Calvin Banks, wow.

So what is Shador going at?

Well, they predicted this.

They say 21 to the stadium.

Ooh.

Calvin Banks. Kelvin Banks Bro, I don't think nobody saw this No, no, no, no I mean, they're talking about Shadour They're talking about Jackson Dart I don't think anybody saw this You have to address the quarterback situation in New Orleans And you haven't done that yet And I thought Shadour would have been a perfect fit with Kellen Moore.
I did, too. Normally, the offensive rookie coaches, they like to hiss themselves to a rookie quarterback.
And we're going to roll together. Yeah.
He don't have bad habits. I can teach him.
Ooh. Ooh.
Let's see. Let's see what he looks like, Ojo.
Nice base, nice climb. Second level.
Hands inside. I like that.
Nice. I like that.
Let's see what type of punch he got. Okay.
Tremendous. Ooh.
Good wash. I want to see the punch.
I got to see some pass roll. There it is.

Oh, nice.

Step up.

Base was a little wide.

Oh, no, you can't get an angel.

Some guys do good.

They bend that angel, Joe.

No, they be gone.

You can't get an angel like that.

Huh?

Oh,

number 11?

Number 10?

Okay,

number 10.

To where?

Chicago?

Chicago.

I like that.

I like that.

They're going to be good this year. Let it out.
Let it out. You got Cole Komet.
You have Tyler Warren. You have Roman Dunsley.
You got DJ Moore. You got a running back.
They upgraded the offensive line. Yeah.
Wait, Tyler Warren? They're the end. The Bears still suck! The Bears still suck! The Bears still suck! The Bears still suck!

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Bears taking Loveland. Bears taking Loveland.
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What is the schedule? Oh, they're talking about the scheduled release. Okay.
They're not going to release it tonight. That would be dope.
I hope my Chiefs play in Brazil. Week one.
I hope they open up in Brazil. I hope my Chiefs play in Brazil Week one I hope they open up in Brazil I think the Chiefs Chargers In Brazil? Yeah That's a good one Stay away from two teams that don't work Every home game I go to a lot of them They got me heavily.
It's not the right tight end. I like, I like, I like, I love the tight end from Penn State.
You play for? No. The Penn State tight end reminds me of Gronk.
He's that big? Big, yeah. Who you got number one all the time? Gronk? Yes.
Oh, Gronk. I like that.
You know what? If you took Gronk, I think it's over the top. Look, I know you played with Tony, but, man, them boys special.
Hey, especially with Kelsey. Kelsey was more like a wide receiver.
You know what I'm saying? He twitchy. Tony just had them hands.
Yeah. But he don't look like he's running the hood, though.

He told me I ain't catching a crowd.

I say, because I wasn't in the crowd.

You could not run nobody.

You always going to be in the crowd.

I was ahead of the crowd.

Look at this corner.

They lost to Davies Ward.

Pick his end.

Let's see.

It's good.

I'm dressed perfect.

Hey, where's the goddamn snow?

Oh, man. Steve McMichael, Hall of Fame, wrote on that, that Bears, the 85 Bears team.

Mongo.

He played on that team?

Yep.

Who we got?

Who we got?

Come on, Kamish.

Kamish, give it a speech.

Yeah, Colston Loveland, Michigan.

Woo!

Tight end?

Yeah, Michigan.

I like Warren from Penn State. I like him better, too.

Great hands, great run after the catch.

Normally, the Penn State tight end, the one thing they can do is block.

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I'm trying to see the main highlights, man. Oh, here we go.

Tyler Eifert.

Well, we take a tight end with the number 10 overall.

Yeah.

Look, I'm not surprised that he went in the first round.

I'm surprised that he went in front of Warren.

That part.

For me, I thought Warren, the games that I watched him,

high point the ball, tremendous

run after the catch, can't block,

lined him up in the slot.

Yeah.

Oh, he tried to fuse. Here we go.

Let's see what he...

Oh, he got him in. Oh, run the

wheel wide on him.

I like this. Nice high point.

Okay. Nice high point.
Okay. Nice high point.

Okay.

I want to see some run blocking.

So he's more of an F tight end.

He's more of a Tiger tight end.

He blocks a little bit.

Oh, nice release.

He too light. He's not blocking that.
Not at that side. He more of a Travis Kelce.
There you go. Exactly.
The center short. He more of a center short.
He more of an F. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You put him in motion.
Make him the weak side. The Tiger tied in.
You make him the weak side. I'm not putting him at the point of attack.
Yeah, you don't ask him to block too many times.

Well, they already got Cole Clement, though.

I know.

I guess they want to go to double tight set.

Two tights, two tights.

I mean, two tights and two wideouts.

One running back.

I like it.

I like it.

I like Tyler Warren a little bit. That's it.
That's all I'm saying. He can do a little bit more than what I just it.
I like it. I like the pick.
I like Tyler Warren a little bit.

That's it.

That's all I'm saying.

He can do a little bit more than what I just saw.

I'm not surprised that he went in the first round.

I'm surprised that he went over Tyler Warren.

Yeah, for sure.

I believe that, yes.

All right. Linebacker.
Linebacker. That's the linebacker, right? Number three? Oh.
13. Okay.
He nice. Oh, yeah.
Look, the one thing Georgia over the last four or five years has put out is some linebackers. Linebackers, D-line.

Yep.

Every time. And they missing a long time.
He got that from Nick. If you're going to look at Nick, what Nick put out.
Yeah. Them D-line with the linebackers.
Yeah. Yeah, he's an edge rusher.
but's the edge from Philly last year, Ash?

I like it.

You got to look.

Now, in the league, because everybody playing so much space,

these guys are undersized now at the edge because you got to be in the edge.

You got to do it because you're playing in so much space.

Exactly.

It's not like when we played, man.

No, no, no, no.

At all.

At the 250 days. Look in the Super Bowl.
Andy ran the ball like 10 times. I think that would have helped Patrick in that offensive line.
For sure. Just hand it off.
Yeah. Look, the thing is that when they played cover two, they played every snap was cover two except one.
You got to run somebody out of cover two. You can't throw them out of it.
100%. Because they got a light box.
But because they knew Kansas City would get impatient and Kansas City hadn't shown the propensity to run the football all year, you played right in the Phillies' hand. And now when they got the lead on you, they know you're going to get impatient.
And I was shocked Andy Reid normally gets in his bag and can make some adjustments. I was surprised by the lack of adjustments he made.
But think about this. Even with adjustments, there's nothing you can do for adjusting that type of defense that's coming at you that kind of way.
Even with the quick game, they were still in the backfield. Let's say if you were going to make adjustments, you know what? They're getting to him too quick.
We've got to get away from play action. We've got to get away from five-step drop.
He couldn't even do three-step drop. I bet they go Williams.

That's why you got to run the ball. Yeah.

I bet they go Williams.

You got Will Johnson?

I bet they go Williams.

Edge.

Then they release Leonard Floyd. Is Leonard Floyd still in San Fran Leonard Floyd got him in the bathroom too much water too much water go ahead go ahead I think they're going to take they need a a cornerback.
Tredavious Ward left.

He's in Indy now.

I like – I think they take a corner.

49ers?

No, no, no.

The 49ers need a corner, but they might go edge.

They like the Georgia kid.

George Ward is out of there?

Yeah, he's in Indy now.

That's right.

That's right.

But the guy that's been rising up the draft board is that edge from Georgia. Number 13, Williams.
And you know what? Pair him with Bosa. And Leonard Floyd.
Because they got to get back to him. Look, Robert Sala is back as a defensive coordinator.
He's back over there? That's my guy. He loves to attack the quarterback.
I thought he was with the Green Bay staff. He left the Green Bay staff? No, no, no.
He went to Green Bay when he left the Jets. Yeah.
No, he went to D.C. at a...
Look at that. Yeah, what's your door? There's only one place for him to go, Pittsburgh.
Everybody else got quarterbacks locked in.

I like that for them, though.

You get those two receivers that they got in Pittsburgh.

You got Mike Tumlin.

You got the running back.

They got defense.

Jalen Ward is the running back now.

Yeah.

You know, not in San Francisco.

But I don't know if Jalen Ward can be an every-down back.

No, no, no, no, no.

He's at the Chargers, Najee.

Yep.

What?

Yeah.

They got the next pick, right?

They do.

Ooh.

Ooh.

That bad.

So what do you do with Dak?

If you text your door, what do you do with Dak?

Dak, you go play. Don't worry about who's behind you.
You just do you do with Dak? If you text your door, what do you do with Dak? Dak, you go play.

Don't worry about who's behind you.

You just do what you're supposed to do, and you can keep him on the bench.

You can keep him behind you.

I like what I like.

I don't like him in Dak.

They take him to defensive player.

I know the 49ers take him to defensive player.

You like Will Johnson. I like the edge.
Here we go. Who the 49ers? Who they got? Who they took? They took which? No, they took Williams.
The edge from Georgia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look, it's hard to go wrong taking somebody in that front center from UGA.

Kirby doesn't.

Who needs a quarterback?

The Niners don't need a quarterback.

They got priority.

And they just paid him.

Oh, they need a quarterback.

They do.

When they say, well, you ain't got to hold up long.

Cowboys on the clock.

Cowboys select Shadour Sanders.

No.

The old lineman.

Oh, yeah.

I'm not surprised.

I'm not surprised.

They need O-line.

Zach Martin left.

Booker.

They take Alabama's tackle.

What?

You need to be able to run the football, and you need to be able to protect Dak. That's a good pick.
That's a good pick. Now what we need is for Jerry to make a splash and trade for Tyreek Hill.
Booker. Alabama.
He was what?

He was the third.

He was the second rated tackle behind Campbell.

Oh, that's nice.

Really nice at the point of attack.

Give me that.

Oh, he's sudden.

He'll strike you now.

Yeah.

Good hands, boy. Good hands.
That's what I saw. Good hands.
Hey, look at Miss Bianca. Wax on, wax off.
Oh, man, he's sudden. Huh? That's dope.
They're taking Booker. Who?

Is it?

No, they're not taking the linebacker.

I bet you they take one.

Who?

Because you remember, Ovestree got hurt.

And they were small at the linebacker position, too.

They were real small.

Mikel Williams.

Cowboys pick us in.

We're about to find out. Shador.
No. Does everybody like linebacker from Alabama? He'll take a kicker.
They got the best kicker in football, or one of them. Guard.
That's who they're taking? Cotton? Who they're taking? Is it the Bama guard? Alabama Tyler Booker. Tyler Booker.

Okay.

Booker.

You see?

That's a good one.

Pair him with Tyler Smith.

Tyler Smith.

They'll probably kick Tyler Smith back out and left tackle.

That'll be a good move.

And then put him at guard.

To replace Zach. Yep.
That'll be a good move. And then put him at guard.
To replace Zach.

Yep.

That's dope.

Alabama going to have some draft picks now.

What are Alabama going to do now?

Alabama going to have some.

Alabama, Georgia.

Yeah, man.

That SEC? Big boy in shape, some. Alabama, Georgia.
Yeah, man. That SEC?

Big boy in shape, too.

Check him out.

Yeah.

Because think about it.

Will Campbell.

Yep.

Went four.

The Missouri OT.

I don't know the Missouri OT.

Who's the Missouri?

He went like seven.

There he is.

Georgia guy.

He's going to pick him.

So four of the top 12 picks from the SEC.

Offensive linemen?

Two offensive linemen, yeah.

So we got three offensive linemen and an edge rusher. Where are the dolphins going on? What do you guys need? I mean, oh, my goodness.
A little bit of everything. Defense.
Well, you're trying to move Jalen Ramsey. Yes.
Well, if you move Jalen Ramsey, you're probably going to need somebody to replace him. Do you take Howard?

I'm trying to think.

I'm trying to understand. Where do you think Miami should go?

Corner? That's what I'm saying, yeah.

You like the corner from Michigan?

He's nice.

I don't understand why they're trying to move Ramsey.

Sprite tag.

That's what I was thinking.

But the production is still there.

Is it?

You played a lot of money for Tua.

You played a lot of money for Tyreek.

You played a lot of money for Waddle.

Waddle.

So the odd man out is your best cover man?

Yeah, man. So the odd man out is your best cover man?

Yeah, man.

Tyler, what are the Dolphins taking?

Dolphins, what do Dolphins need?

Corner linebacker.

Dolphins, what are the Dolphins taking?

They're on the clock.

They're everything. Unfortunately, you can't clock.
Get everything.

Unfortunately, you can't get one of everything.

You get one of something.

Come on, Miami.

Don't mess up.

Don't mess up.

What?

We got to keep it up there for the time being.

After the show, we can give you that, okay?

Okay. Let me give you one.
Huh? One behind me. Huh? No, no, we don't want to start there.
Just understand. No, we don't want to start there.
I'm like, now I'm interested. What, where are the Dolphins going, Ocho? I have no idea.
Well, we know they don't need a wide receiver. No, we got to go defense.
We got to go defense. They don't need a receiver.
Obviously, you know they don't need a quarterback. They could go offensive line.
Yeah. Keep Tua upright.
You never know. You got to replace Jalen Ramsey being at him being on the trade block.
So I'm curious. Will Howard was probably the, he is the highest graded corner.

Yes, sir.

For Michigan.

Well, no, look,

he's the second highest graded corner.

Who's first?

Trav was the highest graded corner.

Okay.

So I would not be surprised

if this,

the Dolphins take a corner here.

Because I agree with you,

I think they need defense.

Ordo Lineman.

Yeah.

You got running back with A-chan?

You good there? You said? Most of it's going now. Hold on.
got running back with A-Chan? You good there?

You set? Most is going now. Hold on.
What about Tyler Warren? That tight end. Oh.
Ooh. Will Johnson.
Okay. That's a good one.
That's Jalen Milrow right there. Will Johnson.
It's not on there yet Cowboys get Cowboys got that guy to replace Zach Martin You had Zach Martin a staple A long long time He was in the Johnny Manziel draft 2016. When a lot of people thought they were going to take Johnny Manziel, they take Zach Martin, and they get a seven, eight-time first-team All-Pro, seven, eight-time Pro Bowl player.
Unbelievable career, but as much as they ran the ball, he was in a lot of collisions. A lot of, who that? Zach Martin.
You know, he retired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. So you get somebody to replace him.
You bump Tyler Smith probably back out to left tackle. Okay.
You keep Terrence still at right tackle. You run the football a little more.
You got Javante Williams. Now you got somebody to protect Dak, keep him up right.
Hopefully he can stay healthy. You know and I know they not going to win until Jerry Jones is up out of that.
Well, he ain't going nowhere. Well, it don't matter who they pick.
He ain't going nowhere. It don't matter who they pick.
No time soon. It don't matter.
But let me ask you this. What if they make a trade? Because I told Ocho, I said, what if they make a trade and they trade for Tyreek? I love Tyreek.
But is Tyreek still that difference maker? Is he still that difference maker? He's still that difference maker. I cannot forget just because one season when Tua was out and the number suffered.
Ain't nothing wrong with him. He's still that guy.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
I love the cheetah, but I don't know if that's a move that Dallas needs. I don't think so.
I don't think so. I don't think that's the move.
For the right price. What's the asking price? Just take over the contract.
It's a trade, right? Yeah. Just take over the contract.
But I'm saying, what compensation are we giving? We giving up a third rounder? We giving up a fourth rounder? Third round. Tyreek is about a third round.
Third round right now. What you giving up? Yeah, I ain't giving up nothing.
No, hell no. Second? No way wait.
Third round. Third round picker B.
You're not giving up a second rounder for still the most dynamic receiver because he had one offseason because his quarterback was hurt? What are we talking? I give you a third for him. I give you a third.
But here's the thing. And I can listen to him fifth.
Hold on. Well, he just had 1,800 the year before last.
I give you a fourth that can turn into a third. I like that.
I give you a fourth. Tyreek, still your top five or six right now? You absolutely top five.
Over Justin Jefferson? I just say over. You said top five.
No particular order. I'm going to give you top five.
I think I can give you five better five better. Give me five better right now.
Justin Jefferson. That's one.

Jamar Chase. That's two.
What's my man

with the Rams? Puka.

Puka.

You putting Puka Nakul over Tyreek Hill?

Off of one season?

No, Puka had two seasons.

Two seasons?

What are we talking about?

Keep going. That's three.

You like Devontae? Not at this stage. Okay.
Not at this stage. Talk to me.
Not at this stage. AJ Brown? Not at...
No. Tyler McLaurin? Who you like? Uh...
We talk about... We are talking about Tyreke Hill.
Let's... Come on now.
What are we doing? Nico Harris? Nico Collins. Nico Collins.
No. Yeah, please don't meet Nico Harrison.
In Dallas. Come on.
Yeah. Come on, Dean.
Come on now. Oh, the Dolphins pick her in.
Woo. Okay.
DT. They win defense.
Michigan. Grant.

Wait, where's he from?

Michigan.

Another Michigan?

He didn't grab with the...

I like... I thought they would go Will Johnson.

I thought they'd go corner because, you know, the situation with Jalen Ramsey.

But I like this pick. You know, what do you call him, Lev? The big, what's his name? He went back to the Cardinals.
Oh, Calais. Calais.
Calais, yeah. Yes, Calais.
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Let's see what they get.

Let's see what they get.

Yes.

Yes.

6'3". 331.

God damn.

Let's see what he got.

Oh, quick.

Thank you. 331.
God damn. Let's see what he got.
Oh, quick. Have a nice little move.
Look like Big Sam Adams with that quick first step. You know about Sam Adams.
Big Sam played with me over in Cincinnati. Sway he had the quickest feet, boy.
He swam. I got the quickest first step in him.
Oh, big. Oh.
Ooh. Ooh.
Oh, he powerful inside. He quick.
Nice post. No, you better not go catch him.
You better not go catch him. You better not go catch him.
Hey, you can run a little bit. Oh, my.
A lot of bit. Man, you better not go in the meeting room on Monday.
You let a D-tacker run you down? Hold on. That's all right.
Hold on. At 331 at that.
Yes. Oh, my goodness.
Warren. That's a good one.
I like that. That's a good one.
I love that. So.
He'll be like a Clark, Dallas Clark. Yes.
Remember Dallas Clark when he had Peyton? Yes, when he had Peyton Stokely. Yes.
I said that first. I love that pick.
I love that pick for the Colts. Wow.
Think about the quarterback went first or the quarterback hadn't gone again. That's wild.
The first 14 picks in 24 was offense. Now you got nine offense, five defense.
Oh, yeah. It's a no-brainer.
It's a really good pick. A very good pick.
Especially for Anthony Richardson. Very, very good pick.
The problem is the guys that's on the clock right now don't need quarterbacks. So if you didn't go to Cleveland, the Giants.
That's what he was saying. If he doesn't go nine, nobody else needs a quarterback until 21.
But do the Steelers take him? 100%? Yes, I believe they do. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
But when nobody, you look at all the picks that was from 10 to 21,

then nobody needed a quarterback.

Everybody done spent big money on a quarterback.

New Orleans needed a quarterback.

Yes, they did.

But that's what I'm saying. Derek Carr is not your future.

Okay, he doesn't go nine to New Orleans.

Then what?

Okay, if he doesn't go 21 to the Steelers, then what? Oh, Lord. I don't even want to think about that.
He's going to Pittsburgh? Oh. See, I like Warren.
I like Warren. I really like Warren.
It's the same number that Dallas Clark Warren, too. Yeah.
What's it? Look at that. Ooh.
Ooh. Get out here.
That's a DB. That don't count.
Get out here.

That's a DB.

That don't count.

Hey, I like this for Anthony Richardson because it gives him security.

I handed to him.

I handed to him.

Get going, son.

Get good and get going, son.

That's against Ohio State, too.

Yes.

He nice.

He like a Swiss Army knife at a quarterback.

I mean, he's in tight end position. Did he just throw the ball? He did.
He's nice. He's like a Swiss Army knife at the quarterback.
I mean, in the tight end position.

Did he just throw the ball? He did.

He left it. He was some everything.

Who took him to coach?

Yep. I like that pick, too.

Oh.

Six.

Nice. Look at him.

Off the helmet. Moss.

Give me that.

Nah, yeah.

That's Moss all day.

I like it.

I like this pick.

Look, Mo Allen Cox getting a little up on age now.

I mean, he had a great career, undrafted free agent,

came out of BCU as a basketball player.

We know the success basketball players have coming into the NFL. Tony Gonzalez was a basketball player.
Tony O'Gates was a basketball player. Jimmy Graham was a basketball player.
So we know the success that these guys have coming in, but okay, now it's, you know, let's go, we need more production at that position. You know what? They got some good receivers around him.
You like Pittman Jr.? I do like Pittman. I do.
I like him a lot. Falcons, what you like? What you taking as a Falcons? Will Johnson.
I'll take it Johnson. Who are you? Linebacker? Linebacker.
I think I like Will to go outside, other side of A.J. Terrell.

I like it.

That's a good one.

You got to deal with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans.

You got Olave and Rashad Sheehy.

Yeah, Rashad Sheehy, yeah. Bro, yeah, you got him.

Carolina just took a receiver.

Yeah.

McMillan. They got Legget receiver.
Yeah. McMillan.

They got Leggett.

Yep.

Adam Thielen.

You taking a corner or you taking a linebacker?

I would, too.

I'm taking a corner.

Jeff Ocuda.

What you like in this pick here?

Let's go, baby.

Let me see.

You got Penix.

Jeff Ocuda.

Jeff Ocuda's gone, right?

Huh?

Jeff Okuda left at Lavin, didn't he?

Who's that?

Jeff Okuda.

The DB.

I'm not familiar, Yocho.

I like...

I definitely think the Falcons should go defense.

Yeah, scoring points wasn't their issue last year.

No.

Stopping people. No, stopping people.

Stopping people was.

Just like my you-know-who.

Who they?

Oh.

I like this.

Ocho, what you would have did if you had Joe Barrow as your quarterback?

Same thing I did with Carson.

Carson was a beast.

He had some fun.

You got to think, they passed the ball like crazy today, bro.

Like crazy.

That was different.

I think during our era.

What's going on back when you played?

Rudy Johnson.

Remember Rudy from Auburn?

What does I remember, Rudy?

Yeah, old Rudy.

Then we had Cedric Benson.

When I first got there, Corey Dillon was there for you. Corey Dillon, that's who I was there.
Yeah, and I was a rookie. And then he went to New England after that, right? Yeah.
Ran the ball. Boy, do I.
Do I. I hate it.
Boy, that... Hey, who y'all...
Clint Portis, oh my goodness. Who y'all had that running back we were there? Yeah, Priest.
Priest Holmes. And then we back though with y'all with Larry Johnson.
That's right. That's right.
Boy, Priest was so smooth. Man.
Hey, him and Amon Green got the prettiest running style, bro. Oh, man.
Priest was with me at Baltimore when I first got to Baltimore. That's right.
He was a backup to Jamal Lewis. Jamal Lewis, that's right.
I got Jamal with that. Yeah.
And I say, man, people don't realize how good Priest is. And Priest backed up Ricky Williams at UT.

Made that big play in the Big 12 championship game.

Yeah.

Priest wasn't a great.

He was.

He went out against it.

And again, and again, got with the Chiefs. Al Saunders, Dick Vermeule brought that greatest show on turf offense,

and he took on.

Went crazy.

Went crazy.

Went like Marshall Falk.

Marshall, exactly.

Ah.

Thank you. Sonners, Dick Vermeule brought that greatest show on turf offense, and he took on.
Went crazy. Went like Marshall Falk.

Exactly.

Ah.

That's crazy.

The Priest.

Ray Lewis.

Nobody in this draft.

Not in this draft. Not in this draft.

Not in this one.

Dante. Oh, man.

Dante, appreciate your time.

Yeah, man.

Thank you, bro.

All the best, man.

I'll see you back.

Likewise, man.

Good to see you.

Good to see you, boys.

All right, love.

Let's go.

Hey. Hey.

Hey, you ready?

Okay, get mic'd up.

Look at this.

So there's your best players.

Yeah.

They got Jalen Walker, Will Johnson,

and Mario Hampton, and Josh Simmons.

You think they take Josh Simmons?

The OT?

Hey, coming to the stage to join us now, NFL Hall of Famer.

Missed one snap in his whole career.

Slim Jim, Joe Thomas. Joe, you look good, baby.
You guys looking good, man. But let me ask, you played, how much did you play at when you played? About 320.
320. What? Yeah.
You played a concerted effort. You say, once I'm done with football, I'm going down to what number? 250.
When I was 18, I was 250. That's where I want to get to when I retire.
So how long did it take you to get 70 pounds off? Six months. So what did you do? Did you change your diet, exercise? Yeah, so I stopped eating all carbs.
Okay. I really got into swimming.
Okay. Because swimming is really hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when you're big, phoned, big guy.
I was fighting drowning the whole time. It's really hard.
It is. So when you exert yourself like that, I was just conscious of what I ate.
Right. But also, I had a lot to be able to be 320.
Right. So in other words, you're really not a natural.
You're a big guy, but not an only big guy. Big by normal humanity standards.
Right, right, right. But by NFL lineman standards, I was small.
I had to eat myself into that body. Right.
How hard is it for you to stay at this size based on the structure of eating? It's not too bad. The only time it's really challenging is if I close my eyes and still think I'm a lineman when I pull myself up to the kitchen table and I got like five plates.
But I just got to make sure that's like once a month. You just got to make sure it's not every day.
Your team, the Cleveland Browns, they trade back, kick up an extra couple draft picks, even a first round of next year. You like the move.
So from a mathematical standpoint, you know, you look at the draft charts and the trade charts. Right.
It was a really good trade for them. Yes.
But you lost out on Travis Hunter. That hurts.
Yeah. Because, you know, he's such a locker room guy.
He's a culture guy. He loves the game.
You hope he'd be there

for 15 years and be that leader

in that locker room that you need.

And he can play two positions.

He can play receiver.

Two for the press one. You can't pay him

two contracts. Everybody needs

more receivers. Everybody needs more

corners. I would have liked him.

But I still think I like the guy they got to be able to pair with Myles Garrett.

Yeah.

The pick is in for the Falcons.

Looked like they're going with the edge guy from Georgia.

John Walker.

Yeah, linebacker.

You did say linebacker.

I thought they were going to go defense.

Will Johnson or linebacker.

Hometown kid. Played at the University of Georgia-Salisbury, North Carolina.
Right at home. Right at home.
I like that suit. What do we think about that drip? That's nice.
I like it. It's looking good.
The guy's getting dressing. Dressing is a thing now.
It is. When I came to the league, hey, guys coming with sweats, you know.
Guys coming in with Hermes bags, Goyard, dripped out. I didn't want to be thinking about that at all.
When we traveled, the same red polo and khaki pants. Every time.
Didn't have to think about it. Didn't want to worry about it.
No, you saved a lot of money doing it. Saved a lot of money, yeah.
The Taylors didn't like me very much. You like his pick? You like his pick for the Falcons, Joe? I think it's good.
You know, adding edge pressure, a guy that's flexible, that you can do a lot of things. You know, as a defensive coordinator, you like those guys that you can fit all over the place.
You can build little packages for him to be able to get after the quarterback, drop into coverage if you want him to be able to get into some of those zone drops. And obviously, he's a dude.
Oh, yeah. The one thing about Georgia, if you look at them, they're going to have some edge rushers, linebackers, and D-tackles.
Oh, yeah. They're going to have those.
Kirby took a page out of Nick Saban book because you know in Alabama, he had DT, edge, and linebackers. Yeah, you got to win up front.
You got to have a solid front seven. Look at the close.
Look at that speed right there.

They must have a good strength coach because all them dudes are huge, fast, strong.

Look at that.

You've got to help.

They like their linebacker, 6'6", 230, 245, as high as they go.

Able to go sideline.

Yeah, they go hunting.

Those guys go hunting.

Oh, yeah, he knows it. He's plumped.
Hometown guy. Yeah.
He's from North Carolina, but think about it. Athens is less than an hour away.
So he's from the same house, saved some money. How far is it where you're going? Athens is about, from where he practices, probably 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
He's got to do nothing. Right.
Because they practice up in Fliery Branch. Right.
Beautiful. I like this pick.
You know, you've got a quarterback. They've got good receivers.
They've got Kyle Pissett tight end. Kyle needed to bounce back.
Yeah. He had that great rookie season, Joe.
He needs to bounce back. He needs to put some seasons together now.
Yeah, I think for him, he needs just consistency of the quarterback play, right? Right. You know what it's like if you got a different quarterback in there.
It just takes some time to be able to build that rapport. There have been a few receivers that have been able to manage the quarterback carousel.
For a tight end like Pitts, he needs consistency at that position. Getting hurt as well, messing up ACL, it doesn't help you.
What do you think about the Cardinals? What do the Cardinals need? That's a good question. Who is it? He's like Will Johnson.

Quarterback from Michigan. We'll see.
I don't know.

I think that'd be a pretty good pick. Once you start getting into the middle rounds, if you're

not targeting a quarterback, you take the best available.

You don't try to pick a guy

based on what you need. You just pick

football players.

That's where it gets hard at. I know.

You know what happens? You end up

picking the best available player.

Is it Murphy still there? Some guy

comes behind him and he's a Thank you. That's where it gets hard at.
I know. You know what happens? You end up picking the best available player.

Is it Murphy still there?

And some guy comes behind him, and he's a seven-time all-pro.

You had to have known that I was taking him.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, they're standing up.

Pick a van.

There we go.

They're not wasting any time.

What are we looking like with a pick?

Will Johnson. He said, here, what's your name? Amir says Will Johnson.
I told him that first. Amir Stradamus.
I told him that first, Joe. Cheat.
All right. You're cheating.
Okay. What are we hearing? Here's the thing.
We were talking to Dante. I said, look, and everybody was saying this.
Yeah. If Shadour doesn't go to New Orleans at 9, nobody else, until they get to 21, needs a quarterback.
Yeah. So you could see a precipitous fall.
But I tell people all the time, Joe, it's not how high you go, it it's where you go where you go is more important than going high and i said look i know it's your dream oh i want to go number one i want to go this but you go to the wrong situation yeah i'll be in trouble well the other thing is you know in your mind you're like i want to make the most money i want to be the drafted. It's such a small amount of difference at this part of the draft.

And plus, as a quarterback, you make your money on your second deal anyway.

So go to the best situation, even if it's in the second round,

where they can build around you.

Everybody, your money is in your second contract. So it's not how much money, it's how long you make money.

You can make money for four years, or you can make money for 14 years.

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