
Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers beat Timberwolves, Thunder beat Grizzlies & Pacers beat Bucks to go up 2-0!
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Lakers beating the Timberwolves to even up the series 1-1, OKC beats Memphis to take a 2-0 lead & the Pacers go up 2-0 over the Bucks!
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Not what I'm talking about. The Lakers beat the Minnesota Timberwolves 94-85.
The series is now tied 1-1 as it shifts to Minnesota for the next two games. Luka was one assist short of a triple-double.
31-12-9. LeBron, 21-11-7.
AR, 16-5-5. Rui, 11-5.
Got a balanced effort. Oh, Joe, that's what we needed.
I knew two of the big three had to go off.
I mean,
I'm saying big three,
but I'm saying either Luca,
LeBron,
or AR LeBron,
or Luke and AR.
But two of those guys had to have great days.
And we got that.
And then we got,
uh,
Austin Reeves was sensational.
Like,
uh,
dealing with the ball.
Hey,
you get a big out there on him. You drag him him.
Yeah, every time. That lazy lip.
Yeah, every time. Great.
Julius Randle played exceptionally well. So did that.
Julius Randle was a man of, I mean, he's a load. Yeah.
He's a load. And I don't know why y'all let him get to that left hand because he's left-hand dominant.
And most left-handed players, what do they want to do, Ocho? Get to that left. Get to the left every time.
Every time.
What if you, if in defense, as a football player, we're taught never let a quarterback escape to his dominant hand.
Yeah.
So if he's left right-handed, make him roll left.
If he's left-handed, make him roll right.
Well, and it's the same thing.
Try to make James Harden, try to make Julius Randle, make him go right.
Keep him out of the way to a dominant hand.
But this is what the Lakers needed.
Had a little lull there in the fourth quarter,
but they got it together, made some big-time plays.
I was happy to see LeBron rebound like this because we hadn't seen a rebound like this in a while,
considering that growing, and we talked about it, Ocho.
The one thing that you don't want to do is anything sudden
when you got a soft tissue injury.
And he's nursing that back, trying to get it back,
but he got a couple days off now,
so he should be fully rested and ready to go
and head to Minnesota.
The Lakers win 94-85.
Series now tied 1-1 as it shifts back to the,
what do they call it, land of 10,000 lakes, Minnesota. Ocho, you watching this game.
Tell me what you like about what you saw from the lakes. Shoot, the goddamn intensity.
They act like they wanted to play tonight, huh? They act like they wanted to be there. There was intensity on both sides of the court.
Most importantly, they play defense. They play defense.
Luka, we're going to do what Luka does. LeBron showed up tonight.
Obviously, he didn't have a good game won. Most of them didn't have a good game won outside of goddamn Luka but they played good in transition offensively crashing the boards LeBron obviously he must be feeling much better because I haven't we haven't we haven't seen him rebound like this tonight you know all over the place outside of that man AR they are a combination of players need to play well tonight because of what they did in game one and not playing so well collectively as a group.
But AR showed up, Braun showed up, Lucas showed up, and everybody else contributed in a small manner. So this is what you get.
You get a tied series, but they got to keep this up, huh? They got to keep up that momentum and consistency that we saw tonight. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Lakers were shooting 61% at the half.
I could be wrong, but correct me if I'm right. They cooled off a little bit, but they weren't.
Yeah, but man, that first half was beautiful. And to extend the game to the point where it was at the half and getting the lead that they did have, that low in the fourth quarter didn't hurt them much.
No, I'm pulling up the box score, Ochocho yeah um do you look at the difference the difference in in game one compared to game two for the uh uh the T-Wolves right only two players in double figure remember uh uh uh who that Jaden Daniels was perfect for damn near perfect from the three-point line Nas Reed damn near perfect from the three-point line yeah so you had two guys that gave you exceptional play from the three-point line on the offensive end. Now, you only had two guys in double figures.
That's how you're going to win. And see, like I said, I don't believe Ant-Man by himself can beat you.
But if you let him get eight, nine, ten assists and you let you, now you in for it. Guys Right.
Guys, guys was making shoot around threes.
You can't give them
no shoot around threes.
You got to contest those shots.
And I thought the Lakers
did a great job of contesting,
closing out to the body,
not filing,
running them off the three-point line.
But Nas Reed
did not have an opportunity
to shoot those
shoot around threes.
McDaniels didn't have an opportunity
to shoot those shots.
Right.
DeVincenzo was in foul trouble. And so he really didn't get an opportunity to shoot those shots.
DiVincenzo was in foul trouble
and so he really didn't get an opportunity to get
in the floor of the game, although he just hit that shot
before the end of the half. That was really all
he did the other night. But
in this game, this is what I like to see from the Lakers.
They need a balance. I mean, they was okay
still. I need
a little bit more from the bench.
I need a little bit more from the bench, especially going on the
road, Ocho. Yeah, most definitely.
Especially going on the road. Listen, the fact, the defense, defense, defense, defense, defense.
Them boys were scrappy tonight, boy. You could tell they played different.
They wanted it. They wanted it.
You can just tell. I'm not sure what the difference is in game one and game two, but this looked like a completely different team.
Completely different team. Yeah, because you look at Mike Conley, you know he had some big threes in game one, Ojo.
He had zero points tonight. Got some great cardio in.
Got 21 minutes of cardio. Now, hey, that's pretty good.
Continuous running cardio, you know, probably faster cardio too. Nah, he ate a little something today, a couple of meals a day.
But Ant-Man was 10 of 22. He had 25.6 rebounds.
The other night, he had nine assists. Tonight, he had none.
You see? I told you, Ocho, I said, hey, you can't let him get the others involved. See, what Luka hurts you is Luka go get 40, and then he gives you 12.
LeBron, he gives you 20, a Jokic. Those guys give you 20, 30, and give you 11, 12 assists.
Not only are they getting theirs, they're helping somebody else eat also. Right.
Now, Ant-Man, he had 25, zero assists. Mm-hmm.
LeBron the other night only had three assists. That's not nearly good enough.
And LeBron is a smart enough player. He has a high enough IQ to realize I got to be able to impact the game in other ways other than scoring.
So I need to rebound. I need to assist.
If my jumper's not falling, if I can't get to the basket, I've got to impact the game in other ways. Tonight, this is the kind of game, 21 points.
We know LeBron can get 21 points
anytime he wants to. But I thought
the effort that he showed, the leadership that he showed,
he and Luka combined for 52
with 23 rebounds and 16
assists. So you throw
Austin Reeves in there, now you got what?
68
points
between those three.
And you need something like that. You need about
somewhere between like 65 and
75 between those
Thank you. a 68 point between those three.
And you need something like that. You need somewhere between 65 and 75 between those.
I'll take 80, but I ain't going to be greedy. 65 to 75.
And then you get Rui giving you a little something. And if Finney Smith and Gabe Vincent can give you anything, you'll take that also.
Luca, 31 points, 12 rebounds, 9 assists. The first Laker since Magic with those numbers in a playoff game.
What? Hey, that boy, that boy, nice, man. Every time he puts up a performance like this, this game.
Don't you say it, Ocho. Don't you say nothing about it.
I don't want to hear you say Dallas or Mavericks. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I was going to say... Or Deco or Harrison.
Okay, but it just makes look some of the things he's saying. Understand that
he has to fall on the sword. It just makes him look
ridiculous. Every game they play,
it looks worse and worse.
So, I mean, I'll leave it
alone. I ain't going to say nothing.
I ain't going to say nothing.
I get it. I get it.
It's tough. It's tough.
Like I said, I mean, you look at a guy like this.
He's 26 years of age, Ocho.
He can do it all.
He can score.
He can rebound.
He can facilitate.
He can make, you know, look, except he's going to argue damn near every play,
except that he's not an exceptional defender.
All we ask him to do is don't get beat on the initial push. Hey, he tried to beat you on the first go, shut that off.
Just don't give him a free run to the basket. Make him go to the second.
That's all we ask. That's all you can ask for.
Because you know what he's going to give you offensively. Every time.
Excuse me. You already know that, Ocho.
Every time. So I'm not worried about him on the offensive end.
It's just that you try to put, and that's what they normally do. Unless you were Jordan or Kobe LeBron back in his heyday.
You put your best offensive player on your worst defensive player. I want you to save some of that.
I don't want you to exert all that energy trying to stop him. We'll put somebody
else on him.
So we need that for offense because that's what
Larry played the worst defender
because Larry Bird was an offensive player.
And I get it. I ain't got no problem with that
whatsoever. But this was a great
performance. The Lakers needed this.
The crowd was
really energized. I'm
glad I didn't go to that
Saturday night game because I'd have been pissed off. I'd have been out of my money.
I had to stay two extra nights. No.
You would have been mad. Hold To spend that kind of You talking about spending 25 for a ticket
Yeah
Okay
Now you gotta spend
An extra you know
Two nights at the hotel
And you gotta get a car
You gotta get a car service
To wait for you
Yeah
Huh
And I gotta pay for Jordan to stay
Cause Jordan
Jordan gotta do
Nah hell nah
We coming back
We coming home
So what we
We'll be looking like right now
What we looking like right now?
What we looking like? Is still Lakers in five? I mean, what we talking about? Okay. All right.
All right. I know you're feeling good.
Where y'all at now, chat? Y'all be talking crazy. Y'all be talking about I don't knowE.T.
Wood was at five. Hey, all we did have was a temporary setback for a major comeback.
That's all we had on, Joe. A little temporary setback for a major comeback.
But I like the pace in which they played. I like the tempo.
I like the guys hustling. I saw guys hitting the floor.
I got guys running guys off the line. I got guys helping.
Hey, I got guys going the extra mile. Hey, I can...
There's nothing wrong with losing. Somebody's going to lose, but just give me the effort.
If we lose and you give me that effort, Ojo, with that every time I can live with that I can live with that but not game one you can't live with that no no no no you should have been ready because normally game one is the easiest game to steal for the road team normally game one is the easiest because you gonna catch them napping because the home team is generally counting on the crowd to get them going or to keep them going. So now, if we can jump on your ass, get that crowd out the game, now what? And before you know it, you're like, damn, we down 20.
We down 25. And it takes so much for you to get back into the game by the time you try to get over that hump.
Yeah. You of gas.
You done ran out of time, too. Yeah.
But I like this. I thought J.J.
did a great job of getting the guys. He said, I heard him in his press conference.
They had as good a practice over the last couple of days they've had in the last month. He took full accountability.
The one thing about J.J. now, he's going to take accountability.
Oh, yeah. I probably could have thrown a few more scrimmages up in there.
This me, this on me. And the funny thing apart, when you think about it, whoever made the comments about them not scrimmaging enough, before the game won, I guarantee that was a player's call.
I guarantee it was a player's call and allowing them to rest a little bit. And JJ took the brunt of that.
You know what? That's on me. That's on me.
and I guarantee you, I know it was a players call, not the scrimmage as much, so we have fresh legs, and we feel good going into game one, but the effort they put up in game one is a reflection. That'll get you beat.
That'll get you beat. Every time.
That'll get you sent home. That'll get you like, oh, we didn't play our best ball.
Look, they're not an extreme. They're not like Boston.
Right. They're not like OKC.
Those are deep teams. Vince and all.
You're looking at the Cavs. Those are deep teams.
Yeah. That's not what the Lakers are.
The Lakers are heavily dependent on three players, Luca, Reeves and Ron. We understand that anything we get outside
of that, we greatly appreciate
and we will
humbly accept.
But you can't go in counting on, man,
you know, hey, we will get like 16 from
Finney. We'll get like 10 to 14
from Gabe. Jackson Hayes gonna
give us a double. No.
Yeah. The big three
has to be
65, 80 points
I'm sorry. from Gabe.
Jackson Hayes going to give us a double. The big three have to be 65-80 points.
Two of the three needs to be kind of efficient, but it was a great game tonight. Lakers played.
This is what I expect to see from the Lakers. We can go into Minnesota.
Land of 10,000 lakes. We're going to pee in the lakes.
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Hey, what do you think the weather is in Minnesota right now it's close to Green Bay so hell
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or the 50s
oh that's perfect weather
there too
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listen
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ain't nothing wrong with that
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it's one thing
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yeah
I mean it didn't
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It's one thing to be sitting in a cold tub, but to be in the cold water. Yeah.
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Message from Netze and the Ad Console. The Thunder takes a commanding 2-0 lead over the Grizzlies.
SGA, 27-8-5. J-Dub 24-6-5.
Chet 20-11-5
block. The Thunder have had the lead for all
but for three minutes and two
seconds of the 96 minutes over the
first two games. They've done it
despite SGA scoring only 42
points on 14 of
42 shooting and going 4
of 17 from 3.
Tonight, I thought it was J-Dub that really
sparked them. He and Chet got it going early.
For whatever reason, SGA has struggled with his shot a little bit, Ocho. He hasn't been to SGA because he shot over 50% from the floor.
He's got 42 points scored, but he took him 42 shots to get it. Yeah.
Yeah, he wasn't efficient tonight. No, he wasn't efficient in the first game either.
And they beat him by 51. Hell, they beat him by what? 18, 19 tonight.
And he still hadn't played his best game. Hey, that's scary.
It's just a matter of time. Yeah, it is.
He's going to be on most of the greats. Most of the greats, they always have games like this, but they'll make you forget about it.
They'll make you forget about it and probably going into game three, he's probably going to show up and really close this thing out. I even tweeted, obviously, the blowout by 51 in the first game, and I'm thinking to myself, in John Morant, understanding how great a player he is, how good he can be, how explosive he can be.
I tweeted, can the Grizzlies pull this and make it a seven-game series? Hell no. Is there any chance? No.
And Twitter jumped on my head like, man, this is over. Bring the booms out.
Yeah. And obviously, I'm thinking and I'm seeing the tweets, and I saw the comparison about SGA and John Marant and how they say every year you see improvement in SGA's game.
And then John Marant, they say they don't see improvement in him on the court. And I'm curious for those who analyze the game of basketball and watch it that close.
How do you say something like that with an individual who doesn't have much help around him? He is the force.
He is the force.
He is the Memphis Grizzlies.
So how can you say
he's not improving
year and year?
They got an all-star
defensive player of the year
in Jaron Jackson
who hadn't played well.
Desmond Bain.
Yeah.
But I mean,
they got rid of Big Adams
and they got Zach Eady.
Zach Eady.
But this is the way
their team is constructed. This is the way their team is constructed.
A lot of it has to do with a lot of it is Ja's own doing. You know, he got the suspensions, two of those.
He's been injured a lot. So, you know, it's hard to get better when you're rehabbing.
Because you're rehabbing, you're just trying to get back to the point. As opposed to when you train, you try to get better.
See, rehab is trying to get you back to your original state. Well, getting me back to my original state doesn't improve me.
I need improvement, so I need to train. Okay, I got you, I got you, I got you.
Yeah, so that's the thing. I mean, think about it.
He had his shoulder. He's been dealing with some stuff.
So hopefully he can come out of this season healthy and he can just take him a month off, get back in the gym, and be the Jock. Look, Jock's supposed to be an all-star.
Now, it's not easy because you're in the West. Steph, Shea, Harden, you got Jamal Murray, you had Fox, Deere and Fox.
You got Luka. So it's not easy to make it as a guard in the West.
Yeah, but you got to understand this would be his last time being in the West. So he going to be an all-star.
He's going to be in the East next year. Where are you going? Huh? Where are you going? Oh, come on over down here to Tussies with your boy.
Yeah, you going to be right down here in South Beach with your boy. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. I know you're going to see this, baby.
We got you, baby, right here in the 305 now. Yes, sir.
Listen, I love Memphis. I love Memphis.
No disrespect to them. I know they have a series to play right now, but come on home.
John, come on home. The Oklahoma City Thunder has now won six games against Memphis this season by a combined 145 points.
That's a 24.2 point differential. It's not fair though, Unc.
It's not fair. The starting five is strong.
The bench is strong. They deep.
Yes, Jay ain't not on, he goes shit
acting a fool. There's always
somebody to counter if someone else isn't
playing well, as opposed to
Memphis. Okay, Jha gotta
be on. If Jha not on, okay, Desmond
Bain, we gonna carry us. Okay, if Desmond
Bain don't on, now where I'm getting
a production from.
You're right. Okay, see, deep.
You got
Zay or Joe. You got Wiggins.
You got Caruso. Yeah.
You got Lou Dortchipping in. I mean, you got some guys that play extremely well.
They play extremely well. And when, like I said, and the thing is, SGA hadn't been on.
And they're still winning these games. I mean, think about it.
They won by 51, and I think they won by 19 tonight. Right.
So that's 35 points that they won by in two games. It's exactly 35 points because they won by 70 games, which is second most of the first two games because I think the Lakers won by 74.
So, yeah.
Man, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
So, but they play, look,
we know what the Thunder represent.
In that building,
they've always been tough in that building.
The crowd is the only show in town, don't you?
Yeah.
There ain't no other pro teams.
You know, you got college,
it ain't nothing going on.
I mean, you close to Norman,
you know, Okie State and stuff like that, but ain't nothing going on I mean you close to Norman you know Okie State and stuff like that but ain't nothing else going on so they're rabid about their basketball and rightfully so they've had you know Shea has blossomed can you imagine when they had Russ and they had Harden they had KD they had Ibaka, they had Schroeder. They were loaded.
And then, you know, obviously KD left and Serge left and James Harden left. Well, James Harden was the first to leave.
Oh, they had Reggie Jackson. That's what I meant to say, Reggie Jackson.
Hey, Reggie played with the Clippers too, right? He played with the Clippers. Yes.
Where were Reggie at now? I don't know if he's in the league. Last year he played with the Nuggets, I think.
Okay. I think he played with the Nuggets last year.
But it was, they had it rolling. And now that they're rolling again with SGA and, you know, J-Dub, you got Chet, you got Hartenstein.
Guys understand their role. They do their role to the max, to the fullest.
Right. This is a good team.
This is a good team. Now, don't get me wrong, you know, but I still...
Tell nobody
on your...
Wait, say it again, say it again, say it again.
I ain't hear you.
Lakers in five?
All right. Be careful now.
Listen.
You know it's much... They need to be careful.
Oh, it's much more difficult
to win in Minnesota. Playing away,
that's a different ball game. It away, that's a different ballgame.
It is.
It is.
It's a different ballgame.
We ain't talking about the Thunder.
Okay.
It ain't summer.
We ain't got no thunderstorms, so we ain't worried about the Thunder right now.
We focus.
We tunnel vision.
We focus on Minnesota.
So y'all got to get past Minnesota first.
That's who we focus on.
How many games in Minnesota?
Two or three?
Two.
Well, it's three total, but we're going to take
two of these and we ain't coming back.
We ain't going back.
Our job is once we come home, not
to return.
Oh, so basically what you're
telling me,
you're telling the chat, the Lakers are going to win the next two
games in Minnesota.
That's our goal. Oh, that's your goal, but you don't sound very confident.
I definitely know we get in game three, for sure. Okay.
Once we get game three, might as well get sweepstakes. Hey, Ocho, you going to the store? Hey, Ocho, grab me a pack of Benson Hedges.
Yeah. You going to the store hey Ocho grab me a pack of
Benson Hedges
you going to the store
did you say Benson Hedges
what you know about Benson Hedges man
that's so throwback
I think my grandma
used to smoke them man
it was the white with the green with the green at the top right
yeah man
she used to send me to the store to get them thang
for back in the day.
That's crazy.
I ain't heard that in years.
Man, I don't even know
about it.
I don't know
nobody smoke those.
I mean,
people don't smoke.
They don't see.
Maybe they do.
But I don't see
as many people smoking
as they did
when I was a kid.
Because, you know,
you can smoke
in restaurants.
Everywhere.
On a plane.
You got a smoking section. Yeah, you can smoke on a plane.
I'm all about to remember you can smoke on the plane. Yeah.
It's different. I'm glad they cut that bull drive out.
No, they need to bring that back. But you know about them Palm Mall and them Winston, them Salem, them Virginia Slems? Yeah, I don't know about that.
I know about them damn Benson Hedges because grandma used to send me to... Listen, I never forget.
Grandma used to send me to the corner store 45th and 10th avenue no 45th and 12th right right there right right there to get them busy i never forget never forget the pacers beat the buck ruined dame's return he hadn't played in over a month uh but the pacers uh win 123 115 the pacers now lead the series 2-0. For the second game in a row, the Pacers had balanced scoring.
Six players in double figures. Pascal Siakam, Tyrese Halliburton, Miles Turner, Aaron Nesmith, Nimhart, and Benedict Macburn.
They're deep. Very.
They are. They're a deep team.
They're a balanced team. TJ McCollum didn't get in on the action because he normally gives you double figures.
But that's the thing. And although Giannis and Bobby Portis played extremely well, you know, Dame is trying to work his way back into it.
He's been off a month. Yeah.
You know, I'm sure I don't know how much he was doing with that blood clot. But, you know, let's see how the first, let's see how game three goes.
Right.
Because he's got, you know,
try to get his leg
because I don't think he played,
he didn't play much more
than 20 plus minutes.
It's going to be very interesting
to see how does he feel.
Probably a little sore, Ocho.
You know, when you don't do
something for a month.
Yeah.
And you a little sore.
And then you come back,
then you come back.
Obviously, you practice,
you practice, you get it in.
But playing in practice
and playing in the game is completely different, especially after being off a whole month. Yeah.
Listen, you said the right thing. You got to get your legs back up underneath you because it's different.
It's a different ballgame. You can run 100 gases and practice all you want.
Game time is different. Yeah.
Giannis averaging 35, 15, and 4,
shooting 65% from the floor,
but he finds himself down 0-2.
I think the thing is that
they're saying, look,
let Giannis score.
We just got to keep everything else under control.
Everybody else, yeah.
Because that assist total,
that's what I'm looking at.
You go back and look at them
when they made this run late in the season, it was because Giannis was damn the average of a triple-double every game. Or his assist total was way up there, 7, 8, 9.
Sometimes he had 11, 12 assists. Now, it's like, okay, get yours.
Ain't nobody else eating. You get you a belly full.
I mean, eat all you want to. Ain't nobody else eating.
Bobby Porter's played well tonight. They needed one other guy.
And if they can get Giannis and Bobby to play like this, I don't know when they play tonight. It's Tuesday, so they'll probably play Friday.
If they play Friday, Saturday, and they can get Bobby and Giannis to play like this and get Dame to give them a little bit more than what he gave tonight. Right.
They're going to be all right. They're going to be all right.
Because the thing is that Andy is, think about it. You got all these guys in double figures.
That's how they win. They don't have a situation where a guy going to go get you 30 or 40.
They're going to have a bunch of 20. You know, one guy might have 25, and he's going to have 20, 19, 17, 16, 15.
They play the numbers game on you, Ocho. You know, where you have, like a Giannis, Giannis going to get you 50, 14, and 6.
Every time. Consistently, though.
Kind of like what OKC. Shea going to get you 30, but J-Dub going to get you 22.
Chet's going to get you 15. Hardenstein going to give you 8.
you know Lou Do Shea gonna give you 30 But J-Dub gonna give you 22 Chet's gonna give you 15 Hardenstein gonna give you 8 You know, Lou Doherty give you 10 They just chop you up You get Isaiah Joe You got Wiggins We know Wallace And so It's gonna be an interesting series I like this I like the back and forth between Halliburton and Dame.
And Dame.
Yeah.
Where that stemmed from?
Where that stemmed from?
Thanks, I got something for you.
You're doing a lot of talking.
Because you know,
today the poll came out
and Tyrese Halliburton
was voted the most
overrated player.
Overrated.
That's what they say.
That's what the players say.
It all depends on
who's doing the voting.
Are we talking about the fans?
Are we talking about voters?
Are we talking about media?
The players voted Tyrese Halliburton the most overrated player in the NBA. The players.
You believe that? You believe that? Do you really believe that the players actually take an account that poll and take it actually serious? Well, somebody voted. Now, they said it was the players.
I ain't finna go back here. I ain't finna say, you know, and get myself in no trouble.
Right. And talk about no dominion and the ballots were stuffed and the other league accounting.
But all I'm saying is, is that. I don't, yeah, I don't like that.
I don't like that. Man, they have these polls all the time.
What you talking about? Yeah, I know they have these polls all the time, but you never hear about players actually taking these goddamn polls. You notice that?
The players do all the talking all the time.
They got, you know, they do podcasts,
they talk to media,
and we have not once heard players say,
you know what, I've actually voted for so-and-so when a certain poll came around
about a certain statistical category.
Never.
Now, I remember promo voting.
I remember that.
Outside of that, all these other voting
and all these other categories they always have, for some reason, I've never seen any player talk about it, whether it be football or basketball. But Ocho, think about it now.
What do they have now, Ocho? The top 100 players. Somebody got to vote.
So who voting on that? Ain't no telling. Honestly.
They say the players. I mean, all I know is that when they go, they voting on their players, they're asking such and such and such and such.
So I don't know. Yeah.
But somebody voting for that. Yeah.
I think they... And as a player, you can't vote for a player on your own team.
Yeah. So...
I don't see how they call Mr. Halliburton, you know, overrated.
Played on Olympic team. He's the best player on the Pacers right now.
You know?
I don't know.
Siakam might be the best player.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Listen, I love Pascal Siakam.
He's not better than Brother Halliburton.
Okay.
You know?
I ain't Doris Burke.
But my eyes work.
I watch the game, and I watch the games.
I, you know, Pascal Siakam, nice. I used to watch him when he was with the Raptors.
Yeah. Burke and Ernie.
Which one got the round face? Which one got the little cone-shaped head, Oall. The round face? Yeah.
Pascal?
That's Burke.
Nah. Ernie got
his cone-shaped head.
Ernie is the one, the yellow one.
Ernie, Ernie, Ernie, Ernie one, Ernie one that's red.
That's Burke.
I ain't seen
that, but I ain't seen it. No, yeah, Ernie.
Ernie. Ernie.
Ernie got
the, oh, yeah. Ernie got the yeah Ernie got the
Burke
Burke got
Burke is the one
with the uh
the round red
I was right
Burke nah
Burke is the one
with the round
with the round face
oh but you ain't seen
you ain't seen
the Muppets
in a long time
I ain't seen Sesame Street
in so long
that's not Sesame Street
that's the Muppets man
Burke got them ball
you heard me huh that's the Muppets, man. You heard me? Huh? That's the Muppets.
Yes. It is the Muppets, right? Is it the Muppets? I don't know.
Burke and Ernie. It's Burke.
You talk about Burke. It's Burt.
B-E-R-T. Bert.
Man, every time I look at these dudes, man, I start laughing. What happened? I mean, I just be looking at them, man.
It's just like, because the one with the round face always stayed in some some bull jazz. He was always...
Ernie and Bert. But it's Bert and Ernie.
Bert.
Hey, well, I need to turn it.
I got to turn it on. I done wipe my face
37 times.
Well, I don't know why you sit up in there
as hard as it is. I done wiped my face 3.37 time.
Well, I don't know why you said I bet that it's harder than this. Oh, Ocho.
Dang. 90 votes were cast.
Ocho. Yeah.
Who is the league's most overrated player? There were 90 votes cast. See? 90 votes? 90 votes? Tyrese Halliburton was first.
Rudy Gobert was second. Trey Young was third.
Jimmy Butler was fourth. Bradley Beal fifth.
Draymond Green sixth. John Morant seventh.
Julius Randle eighth. Giannis, excuse me, no, Joel Embiid ninth.
Giannis was tenth. Now you see how I know this wasn't the players? This is how I know it wasn't the players.
How you got Giannis on there? That's how you know it wasn't the players. Players ain't vote on that.
There ain't nothing but the media. There ain't nothing but the media.
People having personal vendettas against certain players. Talk about the players voted on this.
The devil is a lie. Who is the MVP? There was 155 votes cast.
Right. Jake Yogi's Alexander got 56% of the vote.
Nikola Jokic got 37% of the vote. Giannis Antetokounmpo and Donovan Mitchell tied with 1.9% of the vote.
And Goat James got 1.3% of the votes. Which team, other than your own, will win the NBA title this season? Boston Celtics got almost 58% of the votes.
OKC Thunder got 18% of the votes, 17.5. The Cleveland Cavaliers got 10.2.
The Los Angeles Lakers got 6.6. And the Denver Nuggets got 4.4.
Those and the Golden State Warriors and the Milwaukee Bucks tied with fifth. Five years from now, Ocho, who would be the face of the league?
With 53, 54%
of the vote, Victor Wimbenyama.
Second, with Ant-Man.
Third, Shea Gilgis.
Fourth, Jason Tatum.
Five, Luka Doncic.
I like Ant.
I like Ant being the face.
Luka is great.
He still doesn't have that
Thank you. I like Ant.
I like Ant being the face. Luka's great.
He still doesn't have that it factor, that aura that makes you the face of the league. Ant-Man has that it factor.
I don't know how to explain it. I don't know how to put it into words.
The chat, if you listen to me, I'm sure you'd understand. If you don't understand, it would be hard for me to explain.
Michael Jordan had that it factor. Kobe had that it factor.
You can't teach it. You can't coach it.
It's just in you. And just the way you carry yourself, the way you play the game.
I don't know how to put them. I almost cursed.
I'm sorry. I don't know how to put it into words.
You understand exactly what I mean. I'm trying to think.
Jason Tatum, he's a great choice. NBA champion.
All-star. You know, MVP.
But he just doesn't have that... There's something missing from that puzzle.
Yeah, there's something. Again, I don't know how to put it into words or explain it, but I like Ant-Man.
You know what it is when you see it. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. It just, I don't know.
Ant got that, like, just different. Yeah.
It's just different. What is the league's worst run organization? The Charlotte Hornets won this one very easily.
36% of the vote. The Washington Wizards was second with 20% of the vote.
The Pelicans, 11.5% of the votes. Sacramento Kings, 8.8% of the votes.
The Philadelphia 76ers, 5.3%. And the Dallas Mavericks at 4.4%.
What you like on there? I can't fight them. I can't fight them on the top three.
Charlotte,
huh? As far
as the worst rant?
Yeah, Charlotte, Washington.
They ain't
got nothing wrong. Everybody that's up there,
they deserve to be up there.
Is it a fact that they can't get players
to come play there?
When the ones that play there, stay hurt. I mean, LaMelo hurt every year, Ocho.
Oh, yeah. Hey, he nice, boy.
Yeah, we on the floor. When he healthy? Okay, when? Well, LaMelo like that, boy.
You got to get out. as daddy said, he needed to get, well, the.
Well, LaMelo liked that, boy.
You got to get out.
Daddy said he needed to get,
well, the team said he needed to get stronger.
His dad has been saying he needed to get stronger.
Right.
I mean, he got to be.
But I'm saying,
the thing is like, like,
LaMelo and Alonzo,
they kind of built,
they kind of like wiry frame.
They ain't built like LaVar. LaVar played football.
Right. Jello got LeVar's body.
Right, yeah. Hey, but I think if you put on muscle, it would take away from his game, his style of play.
But he got to get, I mean, it's one thing to be thin, but I mean, every time he go down, I mean, Mellow missing 10, 15, 20 games a clip.
That's too much. He's too young.
Yeah. I feel you.
I mean, his frame is similar to Ja.
Ja was the same way. Allen Iverson was the same way
as well. You know, they weren't big.
Yeah, but see, Ja
spent so much time up in the air.
So he coming down
and laying on that court.
AI was tough as wet leather, man, because playing like that and AI played I don't know how AI did it yeah in the club all night and then come out there and give him oh practice I forgot he didn't do no practice Ocho aside from your own current coach who is the best coach in the league Mark Dagnallall. 21.8% of the vote.
Kenny Atkinson, 13.6%. He and Eric Spolstra tied.
Joe Mazzula, 12.2%. Ty Lue, 8.2%.
Steve Kerr, 4.7%. Hell, J.J.
Redick even got some votes. Michael Malone is no longer on the team, no longer coaching the team, or Tyler Jenkins.
Both got relieved of their duties during the season. What happened to Aime? Emi, Aime? Aime Udoka, 3.4% of the both.
JB Bickerstaff, 2.7%, JJ, 2.7%, Michael Malone, 2.0%, Chauncey Billups, Taylor Jenkins, and Quinn Snyder each round out the final three at 1.4%. Who was first again? Mark Dagnall, OKC coach.
Yeah. That's about right.
It's hard to argue that. It's hard to argue that, but obviously, you know, it's really not okay.
I don't want to be rude to say this, but when you have players like that, when you have SGA and the supporting cast he does, when you have the bench that he does, well, then there's a coach. You get the boat like that.
Because you got coaches getting fired most of the time. I think it's a little bit different for NBA because there's been some superstars that played together and coach still got fired.
Hell, if the Phoenix Suns coaches got fired, you had Bill, Bill Booker, and KD. Boy, they got the coach before that fired.
And the coach before that fired. They got three straight years in a row they fired the coach.
Yeah, but see, you can't say that in the NBA. You can't say players get coaches fired when it comes to the NBA because the players are actually good.
I think sometimes they don't play well together. How? How? I don't understand.
When you go play at LA Fitness, when you go play recreational football, recreational ball, if you get the best players on your team, nine times out of ten, you finna win. In the NBA, for some reason, it don't work like that.
No. Because you got to play together.
You only got one ball.
That's why, you know,
I asked, I said, man, what you going to do if I put, let's just say
I put the three best receivers out there. Let's just say I put
Chase, Jefferson, and Tyreek.
Hey, man, you know how unhappy
they going to be?
With one football?
Not in this offense. Not in today's offense.
Hell throw the ball 100 times a game. Yeah.
But every player ain't getting 10 catches a game. So what happens when the guy gets 12 catches and the other guy gets 3? How does it work out? I'll let you go ahead and tell the chat.
How it gonna work out don't you I don't know that's just hypothetically speaking that'd be dangerous that's that's why you need one dog and then you have somebody else that can blend in you put two of them guys over there and somebody get 12 one one game and the other get three even if you won the, you'll be stepping on lifts when you go in the locker room. Wait, hold on now.
We had a small example of that over there in Philly. Now they got two dogs out there.
I don't care what nobody say. Them two number ones over there.
Some games, some games. And what did A.J.
Brown say? He was hot. He was hot.
Okay, thank you. He was hot.
He was hot that book out. To keep him blowing up, old people.
To keep him blowing up. I like that.
That's a good strategy. Aside from your current coach, who is the worst coach in the league? Brian Keefe.
One that going away. Mike Boonehoser.
He's no longer there. Charles Lee.
I don't even know. Nick Nurse.
I know he coached for Philly. Tom Thibodeau.
Nick. Rachevich.
He coached for Toronto.
Christie. Sacramento.
Jordy Fernandez.
Is that in Charlotte?
And Michael Malone.
Denver.
Ocho, if a fight broke in, which player in the league would you least like to fight James Johnson won this going away 63% of the and then you got Isaiah Stewart at 13.5 Steve Big Steve Adams 11.3 Lou Dort at 2.1. Hey, Isaiah Stewart and...
Who's Johnson?
James Johnson.
They used to play for the Heat?
They used to play for the Heat?
Yeah.
He like a fourth-degree black belt.
I wouldn't care if it was a fifth-degree orange belt.
Leave that alone, though, Joe.
I'm just saying, I like me against him and Isaiah Stewart. What you think? Mm-mm.
No? That man chopped you in your head. You have a permanent part.
Yeah, you know, I took karate, too. I can run? No, no, I took karate.
That's your discipline? I took karate classes in Crossroom Star Projects at Gwynn Cherry Park.
Yeah, I was a black belt.
I was a black belt.
Gwynn Cherry Park.
I forgot my instructor's name.
He passed away a long time ago.
Crossroom Star Projects, boy.
I'll never forget.
Nah.
I prompt.
Leave that alone.
What?
Nah, nah, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I don't want, I forgot my routine, though.
I know.
Good.
Do you like Adam Silver's idea of changing 10-minute quarters?
78% said no.
13% says yes.
8.5% are undecided. Would you like it if the NBA went to 10 minute quarters? I think that might be what it is in FIBA.
You like that better? Nah, because when you start messing with the game, Ocho, you start changing. Now you get records and stuff.
I mean, because now, Ocho, you about to go to 17. We had 17 games.
About to go to 18 games. Right, right, right.
Look, it used to be 12 games. It used to be 14 games.
It used to be 16. Now it's 17.
When it go to 18, it's too much, huh? I mean, listen, if you're going to change the game, are you changing it for the betterment of the game? Is it changing it for the players? Is it for health reasons? It depends. I'm curious.
Money. When you add games, you're adding it for money.
The same thing with the play-in. Right.
Because think about it, O2, you get an extra three games. No, you get an extra three games on each side.
So you get six games total because you got seven play eight, nine play ten.
Whoever wins out of seven, eight, they're the seventh seed.
The loser of seven, eight play the winner of nine, ten.
Right.
So that's three extra games.
Hmm.
That's a nice little chunk of pie, too.
Yeah.
That's why they got that, what, a seven 77 billion or yeah, 77 billion dollars 11 year 77 billion, something like that. But they got a nice little chunk of change.
Yeah. I like it.
Ocho! Jerry Jones hinted. Here we go.
Dallas isn't done in the trade market this offseason. Here we go.
And there are a couple of deals in the work. We're looking at two things that could happen before or after the draft.
Two pretty substantial trades been working on today. Ocho, are the Cowboys finally going all in? No, probably not.
Probably not. Because if he says something about it, it's probably not going to happen.
If it actually happens without him saying it, then
yes. I mean, history
shows that
Jerry will say a lot of things and
not do the things necessary to improve the team
year in and year out. So why
should this year be any different? I think
maybe he came out and said something just to catch
the headlines. Just to catch the
headlines like he always does. Give the
fans hope.
What if he traded for Tyreek? I like that. I like that.
I know you do. I like that.
Now you give... Man, shit.
You put that speed with CD in the slot? Man, what? And you have a complimentary number three? Then, wait a minute. I didn't even mention the draft yet.
They pick at what? 12, right? 12. They pick at 12.
They might be.
I forgot.
Well,
I'm trying to think.
Young bull.
Omarion.
Omarion.
If he's there.
Omar.
What's his last name?
From.
Oh, you're talking about the running back from North Carolina.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
The one we had on here.
Get Omarion.
Ashton Jenty obviously is going to be gone. Or the Cowboys, if you Cowboys, if you really want to be slick, if you're really serious about winning and changing your program, man, go on up and sneak up there and get Aston Gentry.
Can you imagine adding him to that offense? Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, look, I understand the running back is coming back. But people don't normally move up to take no running back if you know that they'll move up to take every other position except that guy well let's talk about it though let's talk about it the addition of Saquon Barkley from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles was the last missing piece to get them over the hump to win a championship you got four Pro Bowl offensive linemen who? you got four Pro Bowl offensive linemen oh that's a good one that's a good one win a championship.
You got four Pro Bowl offensive linemen? Who? You got four Pro Bowl offensive linemen? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.
You got two receivers that can lift coverage outside? What about your quarterback? How your quarterback looking? They will. I mean, you got Dak.
If, I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, if Jerry puts his money where his mouth is and go get Tyreek from Miami man stop playing and you know Zach Martin retired yeah he did he did and that offensive line wasn't very good last year Ocho nah they wasn't they were banged up too they were bang banged up They were banged up Hey put that in the universe too Put that in the universe Hey Rik I know you're gonna see this Dak I know you're gonna see this CD y'all gonna see this Jerry you're probably gonna see this too Make something happen man Make something happen Change it up man Shoot the dice Hey Jerry Jones I don't know if you play C the dice. Hey, Jerry Jones, I don't know if you play CeeLo,
but roll it.
Roll it, baby.
I don't know if you play CeeLo,
but roll it.
Oh, Joe,
this about to make you upset.
Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait.
Give me time.
Give me time.
Let me get my towel.
Give me a towel.
You talking about I'm going to be upset?
Yep.
You're about to be upset.
Okay, talk to me.
Let me get some of this oil on my skin.
What y'all think about this?
I need to use some of them.
Hey, look, I been even fat back in cracklings or something.
What's up with my head? Ah, an NFL assistant coach spoke about Shadour Sanders to Tom Pelissero and said, The worst form of interview I've ever been in in my life. He's so entitled.
He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time.
He has terrible body language. He blames teammates, but the biggest thing is, he's not that good.
Man, that's some you know what? Come on, man. What are we doing? What are we doing? Behind all that was said, is there a name to that? Ocho, before you go any further, the worst form of interview I've been in, he's so entitled.
Okay, he takes unnecessary sack. That's not an interview.
He never plays on time. That's not a part of the interview.
He has horrible body language. He blames his teammate.
The biggest thing... When is he ever...
I thought the interview, when he in, you know, the way he talks. He talks about himself.
He's condescending. Right.
He's, you know, blah, blah, blah. That's an interview.
Right. That's making no sense.
And I'm curious. We know why.
We know why the punters are doing this, the analysts and whoever it may be. We don don't take him.
Assistant coach, if you're on a team, you recommend that they don't take Shadour. But you don't got to do this.
Right now. Because that man is confident.
Ain't nobody said nothing when Baker Mayfield was a lot like this. I ain't hear none of this.
Actually, he was a little bit more flamboyant than this. Much more.
I mean, Shadour does the watch. But listen, Baker Mayfield was a real one.
Playing the flag in the middle of the field. And talking trash.
Oh, you don't want to shake my hand? Okay, bet. Bet.
Hold my beer. Mm-hmm.
Baker was a real one, but they enjoyed it. They enjoyed it when he did it.
Mm-hmm. Obviously, when it comes to, you know, Shador, ah, it's a personal, personal vendetta, obviously.
Not only against him, but those who don't like his father as well, and it's carrying over when the two should be separated in general. Don't allow your hate for Prime or whatever, whatever disdain you might have for him to affect what Shador's going to do for a team at the next level.
It's too late now, Joe. Listen, you turn on the film, it speaks for itself.
What are we talking about? I'm not even sure myself for the discussion. Turn on the film.
Everywhere he's gone, he's been successful. If he's not that good, so how Colorado go from a one-win team to like a five-win team to all of a sudden an eight, nine-win team? Again, the proof is in the pudding when you turn the film on.
Forget what they talking about. Whoever that was.
Pittsburgh is on the clock. Shadour hinting at the Steelers pick.
Shadour was asked who's on his his Mount Rushmore duos, along with Brady and Gronk and Rodgers and Devontae? His last spot, whoever the quarterback is for DK Metcalf and George Pickens, whoever that is this year. Hmm.
Wait a minute. Bring that to me one more time so I get a better understanding.
My Rushmore duos, Brady and Grop,
Rodgers and Devontae,
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Who's going to be the quarterback?
I mean, you put those names out there, I guess you're thinking
it's going to be you.
I like that.
Who's your other Mount Rush?
If you got Brady Gronk,
Rodgers, Devontae,
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with either Young or Montana.
Yeah, Rice.
I like Rice Young better. I mean, not Young.
I like Rice Montana better. Okay, okay, okay.
Can I get another one? Yes. I like Ross's Burger Brown.
Okay. Better than my homeboy Trav? Ooh, that's a, that.
Good one. Are we putting the tight end in that receiver category? Yeah, you took Brady Grom.
Oh, that's right, you did Brady Grom. Yeah, my homeboy and Trav would be in that, obviously.
What about Phillip Rivers and Antonio Gates? Antonio Gates? That's nice. It's nice.
It's not... It's not...
It's nice. Especially with the numbers they put up together.
Do you? Good numbers. Really good numbers.
They put up great numbers. Mm-hmm.
Mark Andrews said the gloves were completely soaked on the final two-point conversion play against the Bills when he dropped the ball and was debating taking them off the play before.
I'm thinking, do I take it off?
Do I not?
It was so fast, so quick that it just happened.
At the end of the day, I still should have caught the ball.
Mocho?
I hate reliving stuff like that.
It was hard for the rest of his life. Yeah.
It was a low ball, but it was catchable. It was a difficult ball, especially for a tight end, looking down, you know, I just, but that is, it.
That's the hardest ball. That's the hardest ball to catch.
Yeah. Anything we load away, son.
Trying to, trying to slide. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trying to slide, Ocho. You don't really track it because you got to look it all the way in and you kind of like cradling it and get to your pads so quick.
And once they hit them pads and you ain't put your hands on it, that ball gone. Yeah.
Yeah. Ball gone.
Yeah, that's unfortunate. I mean, hands wet, that really had nothing to do with it, you know, in that scenario, especially as soft, as soft as the ball was thrown.
If you're thinking, if you're,
if Ocho, what should have happened,
if you think about doing something, go ahead and do it.
If you're thinking about taking the gloves off,
he probably should have took them off, Ocho. Right.
Probably should have took them off.
Mm.
Bam. I hate that man gonna live that, relive that situation for the rest of his life in his head.
Not only is he going to have to relive it, people are going to remind him of it. To the surprise of even some Atlanta Falcons staffers, First Cousins reported to the start of team's voluntary off-season program today.
Given the voluntary nature of Fully's one off-season workouts consisting of meeting, strength, and conditioning, the expectation was Cousins might skip this stage as he waits for a future to unfold, an expectation that even had Coach Raheem Morris shared as recently as April 1st. Ocho, Cousins said, I ain't getting y'all none of this money.
I'm getting every dime.
Y'all supposed to give me
a hundred mil
fully guaranteed?
You're going to give me
a hundred mil.
Fully guaranteed?
A hundred mil.
So,
so what's going to happen
in a situation like this?
I mean,
you would,
you would be better suited
to know better than I would.
They're going to have to pay him.
Look,
you can't cut him, right? Yeah, you can. that's what he did
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That's what they did with Russ. But you still had to give him the money regardless.
Yes. That's why Pittsburgh was able to get him for a million dollars because the Broncos had to pay the 38 million.
So Cubs still hold a boatload of money, Ocho Ocho Jesus I don't see him as a backup right I don't well just being honest what teams are out there that need a quarterback the ones that need a quarterback are gonna find those needs in the draft because they're looking for players to be I mean there's only two Cleveland two quarterbacks. Cleveland's going to take Abdul Carter.
They need a quarterback. I mean, Abdul Carter is an impacting player, but he's not a franchise-changing player.
The Browns need a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I think you're looking at a guy that can bend the edge.
You put him opposite of Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett.
You see, Philly, what they were able to do with the pass rush to disrupt Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. So I'm saying they're going to take—they're not taking a quarterback at that spot.
So they're going to probably take Shador. Excuse me.
They're probably going to take Trav or Carter. Let's just say for the sake of argument they take Hunter.
Right. They could be on the market for a quarterback.
They did sign Flacco. Yeah.
So that might have been Damn, so I'm trying to think.
I don't like, hey, Flacco Flacco plays so well
in that offense
and look completely different
from Deshaun. Deshaun's not going to be back
and healthy for a while.
I'm assuming at the start of the season, he won't be
available.
Yeah, I don't see. Flacco's a security blanket, I'm assuming, based on of the season, he won't be available.
And it's like, I don't see black. It was a security blanket.
I'm assuming based on his familiarity with the system. Oh, because the thing is, Ocho, he tore it and then he retore it.
Oh, I hate that. But I mean, you said he was healthy, you know, people underestimate him.
He can't wait to get back. So we're going to see.
Yeah. We're going to see.
I'm hoping he, listen, Deshaun said he's going to be back better than ever. I'm expecting to be back better than ever.
Obviously. I'm trying to think of a situation where could Cousins go.
What? If they cut him or trade him? Cut him. Ain't nobody going to trade for him.
I ain't picking up that salary. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Picking up that salary. Can't go to the Raiders.
They got Geno. Right.
Can't go to anywhere in the NFC South because they are stacked up at quarterback. Let's see.
The AFC West. You're not going to Kansas City.
You're not going to Denver. You're not going to the Chargers.
Boom. Okay.
Let's try the AFC East. Okay.
The Jets just got Justin Fields. Right.
You know they sit in Buffalo. They sit in Miami.
They sit in New England. So that's out.
Well, hold on. What about the AFC South? What about the AFC North? There's one team in the AFC North that doesn't have a quarterback.
I said Cleveland. We said Cleveland.
Cleveland? I didn't know Pittsburgh. Number eight want to play around.
Number eight want to play around. No? Well, you never say never because Rodgers hadn't committed to anybody so that's a possibility that he could end up there.
I like that. I like that.
I like that. You know, Aaron, you want to play around, and one thing we do know about that goddamn Kirk Cousins, he going to let that ball go.
He going to sling it. You got DK, you got George.
I'm not sure what the offense will look like. I'm sure the offense had to change a little bit.
I'm not sure who the running back is for the Steelers right now. Jalen Warren.
Okay. He's not going to Tennessee.
They're going to take Cam Ward. No, they're going to take Cam Ward.
And they still got Will Levis. Right.
They brought in Daniel Jones to challenge Richardson. That's not happening.
No.
Jacksonville,
what about a backup to Trevor Lawrence?
That'd be a good one. And also not only a backup,
someone that can push and challenge Trevor Lawrence as well. Not that it would
really happen because they've
just paid him all that money, but still
just having that veteran presence in the
locker room with you, I think would be
dope for Trevor Lawrence and his growth.
The Browns and the Giants
are fielding trade cards for
picks two and three.
Browns
pick two, Giants pick three.
I think both
teams realize there's not a player in the draft
that's going to change their life. Right.
But if I can trade that pick and get more picks, maybe. Would you think you like it? No.
No. Absolutely not.
Why are you trading out of it and you know what you need already? Why are you trading out of a pick and you know what you need? You're not getting it in later rounds. Why are you going backwards? I guess they're saying they get draft capital, get more.
So instead of having a third pick, maybe we trade. Everybody has a first round pick this year.
So now I trade back and now maybe I get an extra second. I get an extra third.
No, man. No.
No, you're struggling. You're struggling in certain areas and the areas you're struggling in, you know what you need.
You know what you need. Get what you need and stop playing.
Test it. You got Cam is going to Tennessee.
You have to do it. That's going to be available Forget all this stuff Everybody talk about You've watched You've turned You've watched the film You've seen You've seen What he can do He did it in high school He did it at Jackson State He did it at Colorado There's some other quarterbacks That are supposed to go In the second round There might be a surprise If These These punters And these analysts And GMs And scouts Really don't like Shadour because of the way he carries himself.
You know, you have Dart and you have some other quarterbacks that... I'm different to humble myself.
Yeah, I do. Listen, I wouldn't either.
I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either.
What you see is what you get, bro. I did the job.
Yeah. I did the job.
I mean, that probably rubbed people with time. Time is who he is.
Yeah. It's who he is.
Long as it's not destructive to the team. Right.
What's the issue, man? Why y'all want the man to think less of himself? The man confident. His daddy was confident.
He instilled that in him. We don't bow down.
We don't hold our head. Just because you don't feel this way about yourself, so now you want me to make me feel good about yourself by lowering myself, by hanging my head, not being confident.
You don't want me to be confident because it gives you the confidence to make you think that we're on the same level. Right.
It makes you uncomfortable. It makes you uncomfortable.
Ooh! I don't know, Ocho. What can I get for two picks, two and three, Ocho? What can I get? Listen, you can get a little bit.
Let me ask you a question. How high is somebody coming up? Because if you you come up high enough you come up more than 5-4 places oh I'm getting your first round of next year oh yeah most definitely hell if you coming up that high you might get two first rounders or you get a first and a second we switch that's my point so but do you do you believe there's one player in this draft that's going to go at second, that's going to go at third, that's going to be life-changing? Travis Hunter.
Life-changing. Well, if you believe he's going to be life-changing, you stand back, you take him.
That's why I think it's all bluffing. The Cleveland Browns and the Giants talk about all these picks and trade and call, accept and call.
They bluffing.
They bluffing.
They bluffing.