Club Shay Shay - Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford Part 2

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Speaker 4 thank you for coming back part two is underway why don't you think older

Speaker 4 bet great fighters want to give these young and up-and-comers an opportunity i don't think it's that they want to give them it's just the opportunity you know um

Speaker 4 they pay you a lot of money probably for taking the risk

Speaker 4 you know and some older fighters want to test test they self and see if they still got it

Speaker 4 and it's and it's a a business everybody know what what what we doing it for we like pit bulls you know you see you see a pit bull you you they got their ring they got their judge and you know they got the crowd around them to send them out there and kill each other that's what that's

Speaker 4 the same way with us you know then this pit bull lose or they kick him out

Speaker 4 i don't i can't use you no more see you know and the promoters it's the same way when you lose that the promoters don't want nothing to deal with you.

Speaker 4 You know what? That's where I was going. Because it seemed, if you remember, if you go back and look at the 70s, there were heavyweights dominated.
They fought.

Speaker 4 Ali fought Frasier and Norton fought this one and Foreman fought that one and Shavers and so forth and so on. And then you had the 80s and you had the four kings and they fought.

Speaker 4 Why they don't want to fight? I mean, it's money. You can make money.
It's all about money. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, when you look at

Speaker 4 the politics,

Speaker 4 they all say, oh, well, this promoter got these fighters. This promoter got these fighters.

Speaker 4 I don't want to share it with you. You don't want to share it with me.
So I'm going to in-house all these fighters unless some...

Speaker 4 drastic amount of money can come and then we can both be successful on this on this fight. Right.
But I don't want to give you

Speaker 4 leverage in your fighter taking my fighter's title.

Speaker 4 Now I don't have no title. I don't have no leverage now.
I don't have nothing.

Speaker 4 So if I have

Speaker 4 six welterweight contenders like PBC had,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 you got two,

Speaker 4 well,

Speaker 4 yeah, two, because many pacquia left top rank and went to PBC. You got two, Jeff Horn and Terrence Crawford.
I fight Jeff Horn. They freeze me out.

Speaker 4 They fight each other while I'm just sitting there.

Speaker 4 Hey, man, I want to fight him. Ah, nah, nah, you on the wrong side of the street.
Wow. Oh, I want to fight him.
No, you're on the wrong side of the street.

Speaker 4 Where the fuck did the wrong side of the street come in to play in the sport of boxing? You know, that's

Speaker 4 how it goes. But then when, you know, it makes sense, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, then the two parties can come together and make it happen because it's enough.

Speaker 4 Because so much money is involved.

Speaker 4 Because I was looking at it like this, and it seemed like Floyd, and I love Floyd, but it seemed like everybody's afraid to have that O, to have a one or two where the O used to be.

Speaker 4 Because so now, and like you said, like, bro, hey, the promoters don't want you anymore, and maybe people don't think you is as good as you once were if you don't have that, don't have that unblemished mark.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it didn't used to be like that, Terrence.

Speaker 4 Ali lost. Sugar Ray lost, hagler lost herns lost got these guys lost when did the the o become the end-all be-all i think i think mayweather

Speaker 4 you know and how

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 he made it

Speaker 4 big to the public

Speaker 4 like

Speaker 4 47 and tried 47 have failed and then it got all the way to 50 and it's like you know break marciano's record now and i'm not retired unblemished andre ward unblemished you know joe cow

Speaker 4 unblemished you know and it's like when people look at him they be like man

Speaker 4 that dude never lost before you know

Speaker 4 people can't say that you know a lot of people can't say that when you look at like ali

Speaker 4 roy jones jr

Speaker 4 you know

Speaker 4 all the all the greats back in the day they lost yes but that's something that

Speaker 4 joe cow zaggy Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather, they can say, I never lost.

Speaker 4 So now when the kids

Speaker 4 looking up to him,

Speaker 4 they say, man, I want to be like them. I don't want to lose.
I don't want to lose. Because now society has shaped things to where if a fighter lose, they talk so bad about, oh, he's a bum.

Speaker 4 I knew he was overrated. Oh, y'all hyped him up.
And now they got to hear it. But back in the day, they didn't have social media.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? So all that wasn't in their face, but now it's in their face. They see it, they hear it, and it's like, you know, who wants to go through that? So fighters is like, man,

Speaker 4 they picking and choosing. Man, I don't want to fight him because, you know, it's a chance.
Unless the money sold.

Speaker 4 You know, so

Speaker 4 it plays a big fact. If I take Floyd Mayweather in his absolute prime, and I take Manny Pacquiao out in his absolute prime.
Floyd Mayweather.

Speaker 4 Floyd still beats him. Floyd beat everybody.

Speaker 4 You don't believe there is a guy at 140, 147 in the history of boxing that could have beat floyd in this prime i don't know but it'd be tough

Speaker 4 it'd be tough floyd floyd man that boy man has the goat man that boy bad he man that boy bad what makes it but i mean what because and i and i told people this i said look at floyd i said floyd it's not that he trains i mean it's his life And from the very beginning, he said, I want to be the best.

Speaker 4 And I look at Floyd. Floyd is not a naturally big man.
So Floyd like you, to get down to 147, you got to drop 20 pounds, 25 pounds. No, he walked around at his way.
He ate 147. He walked right at 150.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So he losing three pounds. Floyd going to camp for like two weeks and he done made his weight.
Yeah. But

Speaker 4 what makes Floyd the best so unique, something that we have not seen before? His defense. And his instincts.
I think Floyd had the best defense in boxing history. Better than Sweet P?

Speaker 4 Yeah, definitely. Because you know, Sweep P have to be.

Speaker 4 Sweep me at defense, but he ain't at offense like Floyd. I look at,

Speaker 4 I say he got more defense than Sweepy because he got hit less. Yes.
You know, Sweepy had more head movement, so he was, Sweepy was better at slipping punches, making you miss. Right.

Speaker 4 But Floyd on defense, like catch, bam, bam, bam, bam. Yeah.
You know.

Speaker 4 Floyd hands down. Then making you pay, catching Connor, catching, slipping, you know, I mean, like, hitting you with shots that you don't see.

Speaker 4 Like, that's, that's where Floyd, master, you know, hit and not get hit. And you look at the people that he beat.

Speaker 4 I mean, people are like, oh, he,

Speaker 4 just go back and look at those world champions from the Kodos and the Pacquiao, the Ricky Hattons, the Arturo Gottis.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 like 20 plus world champs. I ain't talking about no, they legit world champs.
Yeah. And he beat them all.

Speaker 4 And he was calling for them all in a prime, you know, so I don't know, man. A lot of people, they give him credit now, but they didn't give him credit when he was

Speaker 4 active. It's kind of like, it's kind of like Muhammad Ali.
Yeah. They hated him when he was active.
They loved him when he retired and when he got a loss.

Speaker 4 They hated Tyson when Tyson was active. But once he got a loss and he retired, then they loved him.
You know, everybody want to

Speaker 4 see you lose because they want to want you to feel like you're more human.

Speaker 4 They don't want you to be, you know, superior to other fighters, especially fighters that they like. Right.
You know, so they just like, man, I don't like that guy. Right.
I see so many people

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 social media say they don't like me. What? But don't have a reason.
Right. I don't like Crawford, but I hope him and Canelo have a good fight.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 What is there not to like about are they?

Speaker 4 Maybe you run into the same thing, Floyd. People, I believe, people, a lot of people started watching Floyd fights to see him lose.
Do you think people tune in to watch you lose, to see you lose?

Speaker 4 Definitely. But you don't care as long as they buy that pay-per-view.
You good? Yeah, I don't care

Speaker 4 what you think about me. I don't care what you say about me.
You're not in the position that I'm in

Speaker 4 to even

Speaker 4 be on the same

Speaker 4 level of me.

Speaker 4 You know, and I don't say that in a cocky way. I say that in an honest way.
Like

Speaker 4 people

Speaker 4 at a basketball game, you talking stuff to LeBron James and you can't do half of what LeBron James.

Speaker 4 You talking stuff about,

Speaker 4 you know, Aaron Rodgers and you can't throw a 30-foot, 30-yard football. You know, we criticize athletes

Speaker 4 for stuff that we can't even do.

Speaker 4 And it's just like, man, come on now, man.

Speaker 4 You come up in here, get punched up in the head, or you try to go run a

Speaker 4 go across the middle while Britt Ford throw a 90-mile football that'll break your fingers and

Speaker 4 Lynch about to come and take your head off.

Speaker 4 You know, so you got to brace because you're about to get hit, the ball going fast, and you expect me to catch it every single time. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, people don't understand the things

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 4 we do and the things that we take our body through to entertain y'all. Right.
You know, but y'all disrespect us like we not human.

Speaker 4 So then when we lash out on one of y'all, y'all think, oh, everybody like,

Speaker 4 oh, you supposed to be professional, but we human at the end of the day. End of the day.

Speaker 4 Floyd paid you the ultimate compliment. He says Terrence Crawford is the best pound-for-pound fighter fighting right now.

Speaker 4 What's

Speaker 4 your relationship like with Floyd? Oh, we got a good relationship. I'm cool with Florida.
You know, Florida just randomly called me, you know, asked me how my family doing, asked me how I'm doing.

Speaker 4 Don't even check on me. Don't even talk about boxing.
Wow. It's just, oh, I ain't want nothing.
I was just checking up on you, champ.

Speaker 4 You know, seeing how you doing and, you know, making sure everybody's good and things like that.

Speaker 4 And, all right, I'll talk to you later. Wow.
You know, things like that.

Speaker 4 That means more to me than calling me, hey, man, what's up with boxing? You know?

Speaker 4 I was at this fight. I told you this.
I was at the fight that you fought Spence. And I'm sure you heard it.
Man, Spence, had Spence not gotten that car accident, boy.

Speaker 4 Man, you know you fought that man three, man, you fought that man three years too late. you'd have caught him before that before that accident i don't know boy how often have you heard that man

Speaker 4 i think i said everything that everybody was gonna say before they even said it i think they just looked at the interviews and the altercation that me and spence had right and just copied and pasted right you know um i hear it a lot You know, but I was already prepared for it.

Speaker 4 You know, I was prepared, what, three, four years before you happened?

Speaker 4 You know, and

Speaker 4 that's something that I trained my mind to

Speaker 4 preparing for

Speaker 4 because I knew what it was going to be. I said,

Speaker 4 Spence is a great fighter. I'm a fan of Spence.
I've always been a fan of Spence. I watched him

Speaker 4 in the amateurs.

Speaker 4 I rooted for him, you know, when he represented the United States.

Speaker 4 I call him on the phone, check on him.

Speaker 4 I'm a fan of Spence.

Speaker 4 The people,

Speaker 4 the urban community, our own people, try to turn us against each other and make it

Speaker 4 to a point where

Speaker 4 nobody likes each other.

Speaker 4 Why can't you like me and like him?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
And if I like Bud, that don't mean I hate Earl.

Speaker 4 If I like Earl, that don't mean I hate bud right but sometimes it it seems to be now if i like something i can't like him right but it's only like that in our community

Speaker 4 you know when you when you look at

Speaker 4 the mexican community they support each other yeah bro they ride hard for them when when when when when you got two mexicans fighting each other

Speaker 4 man The Mexican community wins. They go celebrate whoever.
They gonna win. They are.
You know, they gonna win.

Speaker 4 When you see us fight each other, it's not like that.

Speaker 4 You know, and I just always felt like we are on downfall.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 blacks, Mexicans,

Speaker 4 rule boxing

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 the beginning. Beginning.
You know, but

Speaker 4 we gotta do better with supporting each other. And we gotta do better.
Another thing we got to do better with is supporting the ladies.

Speaker 4 You know

Speaker 4 the women fighters yeah the women fighters you know you got a lot of women fighters that's doing the same thing that we're doing going through the same thing that we go through that's putting on hell of a show right but we don't we don't support them you know we don't

Speaker 4 you'll see them come to all our fights supporting us bigging us up but ain't everybody want them girls fights

Speaker 4 but some of them girls fights be more exciting than our fights you know so i just think that we need to just, as a boxing community, we need to just support each other more.

Speaker 4 And like you said, if a person lose,

Speaker 4 it's not the end of the world.

Speaker 4 You know, pick back up. You know, some back in the days, you may won that day.
He may come back and beat you. Correct.
You know what I mean? Yep.

Speaker 4 So you just got to, you know, give him his just do and, you know.

Speaker 4 Give him the encouragement that it's not over. Right.
Instead of beating the white down.

Speaker 4 How long

Speaker 4 have you had this Canelo fight in your head

Speaker 4 man

Speaker 4 I've been thinking about Canelo for like

Speaker 4 a year now

Speaker 4 probably a little bit after flow I mean after Spence

Speaker 4 a little bit after Spence when they start

Speaker 4 talking about Spence and

Speaker 4 Canelo.

Speaker 4 I started thinking like man Canelo too big for Spence. Like, he don't clean Spence.

Speaker 4 But then I started looking at it. I'm like,

Speaker 4 Canelo, not that big. Yeah.
You know, he's a smaller fighter that's fighting in a bigger division. So I started just sizing myself up to Canelo in my head.

Speaker 4 He's 5'7.

Speaker 4 I'm 5'8.

Speaker 4 I got a 74-inch

Speaker 4 reach. He got like a 60-something.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 he's wider than me,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 that's it.

Speaker 4 So I'm like, it matches up. It matches up.

Speaker 4 I can do that fight. Did you ever think he would accept it? Or are you just going to put enough pressure on him?

Speaker 4 You're going to keep putting it out there and have people put it out there and say, hey, the only fight that makes sense for Bud is Canelo.

Speaker 4 The only fight that makes sense for Canelo, if he wants to fight somebody and he want a super, super payday,

Speaker 4 Bud Crawford is it. For sure.

Speaker 4 There's no fighter out right now

Speaker 4 that's bigger than Crawford Canelo. No fight.
I agree. I agree.
So a lot of people, I know a lot of people say, oh, well.

Speaker 4 Benavidez, Benavidez, everybody want him to fight Benavidez. And that's a great fight.
And that's a damn good fight.

Speaker 4 You know, but given the circumstances of

Speaker 4 black versus Mexican and the history have always did bigger numbers than any,

Speaker 4 you know, besides Manny Pacquiao, Floyd, and Floyd, you know, Connor McGregor. But

Speaker 4 yeah. You believe these numbers will be comparable to that?

Speaker 4 There's projection that this fight is going to do somewhere between 600 and 750, or three-quarters of a billion. Floyd right now has the record.
He and Pacquiao did 600 million in revenue.

Speaker 4 You believe this fight, you canelo netflix can approach that number go north of that number i don't know because it's a different

Speaker 4 it's different times that we're living in

Speaker 4 when you look at today's uh time you got so much piracy

Speaker 4 you know it's it's different

Speaker 4 back in the days you didn't have that much no you yeah but now you know everybody gotta have

Speaker 4 my kids be talking about oh yeah i'm watching the ufc UFC fights. I'm like, I ain't pay for no UFC.

Speaker 4 They're watching it on their phone. Right.
You know, so

Speaker 4 it's way different nowadays, and

Speaker 4 it's hard. It reminds me of back in the days when they was burning CDs.
Yeah. And the artist was like, man, we can't make

Speaker 4 no money. We can't make no money because everybody burning CDs and stuff like that.
So

Speaker 4 I just think, you know, it's going to do tremendous numbers. But to say I know how much, I don't.
Because I'm looking at it, say, Canelo's guaranteed 150, you guaranteed 100 million.

Speaker 4 Damn, bud, it too late for me to train?

Speaker 4 I mean, I mean, I mean, that's

Speaker 4 that number, that sounds like a number that you can get down with?

Speaker 4 Man, I don't know, man. I don't know.
I don't know, bud. I mean.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to figure, help me out on this, because Marvin Hagler once said, it's hard, it gets hard once you got mink slippers and silk pajamas to get up there and train and get hit in the face again

Speaker 4 that's what he said yes but here's the thing I know silks uh no but look at Floyd everything Floyd was making money doing doing 30 doing 40 million 50 million dollars a fight and he still had the same desire as if he had two dollars bud crawford made money And he still has the desire to get up and train if he has $5.

Speaker 4 How does one stay in that mind? Because it's easy now. Boy, you live in the Ivory Tower.

Speaker 4 You just told me you got a new crib built. Although it costs you $63, it's a new crib.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying, you got this new palatial estate and you still stay hungry. How? Because, like,

Speaker 4 I don't want to lose.

Speaker 4 That's the thing. I don't want to lose in nothing.
You know, so.

Speaker 4 I'm fighting for my future, my kids' future. So if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it to win.
I'm not going to half do it. I'm not going to half step it.
I'm not going to play around with it.

Speaker 4 I'm going to try to win.

Speaker 4 So that's my motivation, my family, to secure

Speaker 4 them with generational wealth, with the businesses that I've created,

Speaker 4 the things that I put my money into, to teach them that anything is possible. And then not only that, for their kids, kids

Speaker 4 can live off of their great-great-grandpa's success. Like, you know, when you see a trust fund, baby.
The Ford family, the Rockefellers, the Kellogg, the Ebony Lamar, the Heinz Ketchup. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 Why can't, you know,

Speaker 4 where I come from, man, people don't be leaving their kids nothing. Right.
When they pass, man, people. She leave them in debt because they ain't got nothing to leave.

Speaker 4 I can't leave. I'm sorry.
Dinners and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 So I just always told myself, if something never was to happen to me, my kids are going to be straight with it or without me.

Speaker 4 But I don't know, but

Speaker 4 150 mil, you still going to want to go in there and train? You still going to want to go do another fight?

Speaker 4 They might come with 250.

Speaker 4 They might come with 200.

Speaker 4 Going to get it.

Speaker 4 Training. Obviously, you're going to have to train.
You're training for a bigger fighter. So what's that? Have you thought about it? Have you lined up some sparring partners?

Speaker 4 Because you probably have to fight, you know, spar with bigger guys than what you normally spar with. No? You know?

Speaker 4 But you try to make this thing seem like routine. It ain't routine, bud.
Man, listen. I don't spar people my size.

Speaker 4 Everybody I spar is bigger than me. Ocho said he want to spar.
I know. He told me.

Speaker 4 He told me. He came down.
He said, man, he wanted to get in the ring with me. I said, man, listen, Ocho.
I got what I keep telling him.

Speaker 4 I said, man, but he's going to, he's doing the MMA fight with Debo, James Harrison. I don't want to do it to him.

Speaker 4 Ocho, good, man. That's my guy.
Yeah. He's funny than him up.
He is funny.

Speaker 4 But go ahead. Do one round.
Touch him up a couple times.

Speaker 4 Y'all be wanting him to get straight. I wanted to do it because he'd be every fighter.

Speaker 4 We had another.

Speaker 4 Andre Reward? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Andre Reward. Hey, I'd be just like, pop, pop.
You know, just like, ooh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't think he wants. I think he just want

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 joy and the bragging rights to say he's been in there with us. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think he want to get in there for us to really spawn. No, no, no, just one minute.

Speaker 4 Just put one minute, just one minute on the clock. Okay.
Okay. That's it.
No, 30 seconds.

Speaker 4 They get it out of 30. 30.
Obatello will be like, man, hey.

Speaker 4 Shannon. Do 30.

Speaker 4 Hey, just touch him a couple times.

Speaker 4 No, don't, don't, don't, don't go all out on it. You gotta line him up, man.
Yeah, hey, oh, Joe, Bud hook, ta-ta.

Speaker 4 And I'm gonna be right there

Speaker 4 with my cat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 So, let me ask you a question. How different you win this fight.
How different is good the perception of Bud Crawford going to be?

Speaker 4 Does this put you in that pantheon?

Speaker 4 I honestly think I've been there,

Speaker 4 but you know, everybody else got their own opinion.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 after this, I think people will start respecting me more. But at the same time, they have some type of excuse.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know, it's always going to be some type of excuse on why Terrence Crawford was successful and why he won the fights that nobody thought he was going to win.

Speaker 4 He did exactly what he said he was going to do, but it was a reason why it happened at the time or something wasn't right. So

Speaker 4 I just taking a stride. There hadn't been very many five-division champs.
You beat Canelo at the weight you and beat him at that weight. I mean, people are going to have to say,

Speaker 4 Bud Crawford with Floyd Mayweather, with Sugar Ray Robinson, with Maddie Pacquiao.

Speaker 4 You go, they're going to have to. They don't have a choice.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say this,

Speaker 4 and I'm not

Speaker 4 just saying it.

Speaker 4 Terrence Crawford could have competed with all those guys.

Speaker 4 All of them.

Speaker 4 I don't see not one fighter that I couldn't compete with.

Speaker 4 From Roberto Duran to Sugar Ray Robinson.

Speaker 4 I can't say Sugar Ray Robinson because I didn't see him. Right.
But the Manny Pacquiao's. The Hagler, the Hearns.
Hagler was 60. Yeah, he fought 60.
But I'm talking about those guys

Speaker 4 around my way. Yeah, yeah, well, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 Even Hagler, you know,

Speaker 4 I could have competed with. But

Speaker 4 the guys that was around my way. Sugar Shane, Mosley, and all those.
Yeah. I compete with them.

Speaker 4 With all of them. Hands down.

Speaker 4 But back then, but guys fought. I mean, now guys are going to retire with 50 fights.
I mean, I think, who was that? Durant. Durant at one point was like 78 and oh.

Speaker 4 These guys had like a hundred fights. Sugar Ray Robinson was like, what, 200 and to 200 wins and five losses or something? Well, boxing has evolved.

Speaker 4 It's because they're fighting every damn day

Speaker 4 every other week. So when you look at boxing, like

Speaker 4 we was talking about football, you came blind side and crackback and all that stuff. Yes.

Speaker 4 Boxing have evolved to the point where we learned that we don't have to fight so much. Right.
Because there's more money involved.

Speaker 4 And so you don't have to fight for 10,000, 10,000, 10,000 where guys can make X amount of dollars and fight one, two times a year.

Speaker 4 Yes. Nope.
And then

Speaker 4 when you look at those fighters that got all those fights, look at their health.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Why would I want to make so much money if I can't enjoy it? Can't enjoy it.

Speaker 4 But don't know I've made the money. Facts.
And to have somebody steal the money because I don't know what's going on. Right.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 health is well.

Speaker 4 Did you watch the Charlo fight and Canelo? Yeah. Did you watch that fight? Did you take anything? I was there.
Did you take anything from it?

Speaker 4 I felt Charlo just came for a payday.

Speaker 4 Really? But I really can't say, but he could have done more.

Speaker 4 He did a lot of good things in there that I felt as if he wouldn't know or had the confidence. He would have did it way better than what he did.
Do Do you feel that Charlo could have done more?

Speaker 4 Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Oh, you're talking about Charlo, yeah, okay.
Yeah. You think he was afraid of Canelo's power? I do.
I think you respect it too much.

Speaker 4 You know, I do.

Speaker 4 But still, all in all, he did what he had to do to make it to the 12th round. Are you going to respect? You're going to respect it?

Speaker 4 I don't know. We're going to see.

Speaker 4 I never got hit by him, so I can't see if I am or I am. But I'm definitely going to respect.

Speaker 4 But you're going to make him respect you? Of course. Because you got you, because he'll walk you down if you don't.
Well, that's his thing.

Speaker 4 He tries to walk people down now. He's going to do what he's going to do, and I'm going to do what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 4 Who up will be there? I gotta see this.

Speaker 4 I gotta to see this one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Where are you on the criticism? Man, you've never been punched by anybody like Canelo. You haven't fought a contender.

Speaker 4 I mean, bro, you just getting. I mean, how do you get? Why do you get to fight Canelo this big payday when you haven't fought anybody leading up to Canelo?

Speaker 4 And you see what he did to Billy Joe, man, once he hit you,

Speaker 4 you hear it all, bud.

Speaker 4 You've heard everything that somebody, I don't know if you've heard it personally, but you got people around you have heard what the criticism is about you taking this fight with Canelo.

Speaker 4 That's the joy of it. Nobody knows.

Speaker 4 You know, that's the excitement.

Speaker 4 He's fought all these guys,

Speaker 4 he's did all these things to these guys.

Speaker 4 Terrence Crawford is great at a lower weight class, but we don't know if Terrence Crawford can take the punches in the arms or take the overhand ride or the upper cut or the right hand. We don't know.

Speaker 4 But that's why we fight. Right.
You know, there's a lot of

Speaker 4 what-ifs,

Speaker 4 you know, that a lot of fans is acting or

Speaker 4 in their

Speaker 4 mind

Speaker 4 what I can't do. Right.
You know. And the last time he fought somebody that had speed was Floyd.
You've never seen anybody with speed like Bud Crawford.

Speaker 4 But, you know, that's why we're going to fight. And then all the answers is gonna be answered on fight night.

Speaker 4 You're gonna give me a rematch,

Speaker 4 ain't no rematch in the clause,

Speaker 4 but who knows? So, you win or take all, hey, winner, take all.

Speaker 4 I'm taking it all.

Speaker 4 I read that you don't eat beef, I don't eat beef or pork, you just chicken, fish,

Speaker 4 turkey.

Speaker 4 You Muslim? No, not at all.

Speaker 4 I bet you for 1100 brass got all them tiles out there.

Speaker 4 A mall steaks, huh? Huh? Amal steaks. Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 4 No, I don't eat beef or pork. I stopped eating beef because

Speaker 4 it takes too long the process. Really? Break down and start it.

Speaker 4 Jordan would have shaken his head.

Speaker 4 That's all right. I ain't got nothing to do in the meantime, so it'll break down just fine.
A day or two, I'm good. I ain't fighting.

Speaker 4 Hold up. I read you deadlifted 400 pounds.

Speaker 4 Probably like 455 or something like that.

Speaker 4 Man,

Speaker 4 your little ass do 455?

Speaker 4 Probably like 500.

Speaker 4 Looking at you. You see, I almost slammed you.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 I told you, bud.

Speaker 4 I ain't want to mess with that $150 million painting, man. Man, hey, everybody, man, how you do, bud? Come on, man.
Because, hey, I think I'm going to get me a little cut and get a little 5% cut.

Speaker 4 So, well, did you, do you, did you, have you always lifted weights? No,

Speaker 4 so you just lifted now to try to pick on a little bit? I just lifted just because I needed to, I just wanted to lift it. Okay, I just looked at it and said, nah, I'll do that.

Speaker 4 And I just like, do it.

Speaker 4 Here, look.

Speaker 4 How many fights does Bud Crawford have left?

Speaker 4 As many as I want.

Speaker 4 But you don't want to stay too long, do you, bud? You want to enjoy it. There you go.
There you go. You just answered it.

Speaker 4 Hello.

Speaker 4 Javante Davis says, you need the money.

Speaker 4 What's going on with you and Javante?

Speaker 4 If

Speaker 4 I'm a boxer,

Speaker 4 he a boxer.

Speaker 4 You a boxer.

Speaker 4 We all need the money. I ain't doing it for free.
Thank you. What if Javante says, hey,

Speaker 4 I come up to 154?

Speaker 4 I come up to 154 while you're talking.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 You'll find Javante in 154? I wish him the best.

Speaker 4 That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 4 Why do they come?

Speaker 4 Is it because

Speaker 4 they feel they need to come for the guy that seems like he's on the top right now? And right now, you're the guy on the top. So everybody's taking Ryan Garcia saying, Canela gonna beat Bud.

Speaker 4 They train together.

Speaker 4 He posted to say that. And he's Mexican.
He posted to ride with

Speaker 4 his peoples.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this. You can help me out on this.
This last fight,

Speaker 4 Roach and Javante. Have you ever seen anything like that?

Speaker 4 I mean, you can't take a knee.

Speaker 4 That's a knockdown.

Speaker 4 Because I saw Floyd break his hand, hitting the guy and took a knee, and they gave Floyd an A count.

Speaker 4 So I'm trying to figure out how Javante avoided that. And then I'm trying to figure out how he got his guy come up to the top of the ring and wipe grease out his eyes.
They do that now, but

Speaker 4 I guess that's

Speaker 4 part of the new, you know what I mean, boxing era. When you saw that, tell me what you, when you saw that, you saw him take a knee

Speaker 4 and then you see he go to the apron and this guy come up to the top of the ring. Well, you're like, hold on, what's going on? I'm just as confused as you.
I said,

Speaker 4 huh?

Speaker 4 I was just like, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 And Steve Willis, a great referee. He is.
And he started counting, then stopped.

Speaker 4 Stopped it. Like, they said, hey, hey, you better stop counting.

Speaker 4 Wow. They don't do that again.

Speaker 4 Being a boxing official, Nado, you think Javante won that fight?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 I don't think he won

Speaker 4 without the knockdown.

Speaker 4 You know, I thought it was a close. It was a close fight, you know, but I would have gave the edge to Roach.

Speaker 4 He fought a great fight. Javante fought a great fight as well, but I just think

Speaker 4 he

Speaker 4 was overconfident. I don't think he took Roach

Speaker 4 seriously. Right.
Because I guess they fought earlier. They fought the amateurs, one from D.C., the other from Maryland, so they're very familiar with each other.

Speaker 4 Well, but pros is different than amateurs. And, you know, Tank...

Speaker 4 stopping a lot of people,

Speaker 4 you know, probably felt like, man, we fought when we were some little kids. Right.
Man, I'm about to knock you out. Right.
What about Javante and Tank?

Speaker 4 Should they fight? Javante and Shaki.

Speaker 4 And Shakur, yeah. Yeah, they should fight.
Why they ain't fighting?

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I think all of them should fight. You know.

Speaker 4 I mean, you got Lopez, Teofimo, you got Lomachenko, you got Shakur, you got Tank, you got Garcia, you got five guys. That's a nice look, that's a nice little David Haney, Devin Haney, yeah.

Speaker 4 You got six guys

Speaker 4 don't nobody want to fight nobody I don't know I think they all should you know be fighting each other so what what what what what what we got going on

Speaker 4 politics bro if

Speaker 4 if Shakur

Speaker 4 and Haney and Tank if all them leave if they retire with undefeated records that's some bullj

Speaker 4 that's some straight-up and you

Speaker 4 know it too, bud. Ain't no way those guys should have undefeated records.
If they're out in their prime and they damn near in the same, no, ain't no way.

Speaker 4 Well, T.F. Femo got a loss already.
Okay, you're right. You're right.

Speaker 4 But fight

Speaker 4 Lomo. He got a loss already.
Fight. I don't care if it's what maybe he could put a loss on somebody else.
I ain't gonna be the only one with a damn loss.

Speaker 4 That's how I think.

Speaker 4 But that's how I think. I ain't gonna be the only mo folk walking around with a loss.
Yeah, for sure. Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 4 I think they all should fight. You know, they all want to fight each other.
And I think, you know, with Turkey Alashik in the mix now, and I think we'll get the old shit.

Speaker 4 They got big money over there.

Speaker 4 You go fight over there? I ain't fought over there. You ain't gonna mess with them? Yeah.
You would?

Speaker 4 I said, would you go with it? Did you buy Saudi? Saudi Arabia? Yeah.

Speaker 4 They pay big bucks over there.

Speaker 4 If the

Speaker 4 ticket was what it's supposed to be, then yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm a champion of the world. Yeah.
Not of the country.

Speaker 4 If I had to travel the world to fight, then so be it.

Speaker 4 Okay, I like that.

Speaker 4 Ryan Garcia and Tank,

Speaker 4 they talk about they might fight again, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 There was a lot made about this rehydration clause. You don't have that.
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think you have this in this one. So theoretically, he's supposed to come in at 168.

Speaker 4 Night of the fight, he might be 180, 185.

Speaker 4 You cool with that.

Speaker 4 I had sat down with Oscar, and Oscar said he thinks the rehydration clause had a lot to do with why Ryan didn't defeat Javante.

Speaker 4 What do you think?

Speaker 4 I think two things.

Speaker 4 I think, well, I'm going to say three things.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 Ryan had an injury already previous, I mean,

Speaker 4 previous in training.

Speaker 4 I think the way it did

Speaker 4 have an effect on him because when you see him with Devin, he was too totally

Speaker 4 fighters.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 in tank defense,

Speaker 4 I don't think fighters should be able to

Speaker 4 fight a fighter at 130 and this fighter rehydrate to 140 and you come in at 165. Right.
You know, I don't think that's right. And I think that's the

Speaker 4 problem that Canelo had with Benavidez as well.

Speaker 4 These fighters coming in at like 200 pounds and they weighing 168. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 That's a big

Speaker 4 Ryan. He had he had some things going on, you know, and we had, I guess it was the tainted sample.
He said he had a trace of a steroid in the system.

Speaker 4 And Devin Haney, you know, complained and he tried to sue him. And so, so, so, what's going on? Why? Because I look at Ryan and I think if he focused, he could be really good.

Speaker 4 He just have a lot of ish going on.

Speaker 4 Do you feel like if he were to focus and took it serious? I mean, you have to take it somewhat serious, but if he like totally locked in,

Speaker 4 they all came up with each other. Okay.

Speaker 4 So they know each other so well. They all know each other so well.
Shakur, Tank, Ryan, you know, Devin,

Speaker 4 they all know each other,

Speaker 4 you know. So, is it hard to fight somebody you know?

Speaker 4 No, no, I'm just saying they all know each other, so they know, you know, how to fight each other, how to beat each other, and things like that, because they didn't fought each other. So,

Speaker 4 what do you think about the Devin Haney and the Ryan Garcia fight? I think, you know,

Speaker 4 steroids, if he was on steroids, he tested positive,

Speaker 4 something

Speaker 4 to do with his performance, but at the same time, I can't take away from Ryan Garcia landing the shots that he was landing all day. You know,

Speaker 4 I just think that when Devin got hit, he didn't recover. Right.
You know, when he got hit, he just couldn't recover from that recovery. Ryan said he beat you.
Huh? Ryan said he beat you.

Speaker 4 Asked him, he said he beat the ish out of you.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying, that's what the man said. He said it.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 That's good.

Speaker 4 That's good for him to think that. We have this conversation, Ray.
Would you fight Jake Paul?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 He's too big. He's too big.
Yeah, Jake's big, but he's doing his thing. I'm going to let Jake do what you're doing.
You got 200 million for you. I'm fighting Jake Paul.

Speaker 4 I'll fight Jake Paul. Come on, Jake.

Speaker 14 Hey, Logan.

Speaker 4 Guinea.

Speaker 4 I got to fight your brother, man.

Speaker 4 When you watch the Tyson and the Jake Paul fight,

Speaker 4 come on, man.

Speaker 4 I love Tyson.

Speaker 4 But Tyson shouldn't have been out there. Right.
Biting his gloves and stuff.

Speaker 4 Was he biting his glove because that was a tick, or was he biting his glove like, man, I would have hit the joke upside his head so bad, but I can't. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't want to spread no rumors.

Speaker 4 But Tyson shouldn't have been in there

Speaker 4 at all. And

Speaker 4 no way, shape, or form, or fashion should

Speaker 4 Jake Paul ever be able to say he beat Mike Tyson. Right.
You know what I mean? Like, Mike Tyson, old. You know, he's old enough.
He had him to 60. Yeah, old enough to be my dad.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, and he shouldn't have been in there. You boxed Connor? Yeah, definitely.
Why not? The money was right.

Speaker 4 Get in there.

Speaker 4 What do you think the appeal is? Because we see a lot of these guys, a lot of the MMA guys want to come to the sport of boxing. We saw Francis Nganu.

Speaker 4 He did pretty good against Tyson Fury, and then he got in there with Anthony Joshua. It didn't go so well.
We saw Connor McGregor get in there with Floyd.

Speaker 4 Even though Floyd was past his prime, it seemed like Floyd Choi with him, drug him out to the deep. held his head up underwater until he he couldn't get it get any couldn't get any oxygen.
I mean,

Speaker 4 what's the appeal of a UFC fighter wanting to fight, wanting to box?

Speaker 4 It's money. Money.
It's all about money.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 I did an interview with a couple of UFC fighters,

Speaker 4 Henry Cejudo now.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I was telling them, boxers make way more money than UFC fighters. Right.

Speaker 4 You know, and

Speaker 4 that's mainly what it comes down to. Right.
You know, money. The UFC fighters see

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 4 the crossover fights like Mayweather and Connor McGregor, how well it did. Connor was compensated.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 They like, hold, hold up. And you see

Speaker 4 what?

Speaker 4 Francis Nganu

Speaker 4 and Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 4 The compensation that Francis Nganu, he probably made 20 times what he's ever made in a UFC fight. Definitely.

Speaker 4 I'm just being, you know, maybe I'm hyperbole here, but I think he probably made at least five times what he's ever made in a UFC fight. Yep.

Speaker 4 So when they see that, then they just, you know, it sparks their interest, you know. But then

Speaker 4 when they say, oh, well,

Speaker 4 boxers need to go to

Speaker 4 the cage then.

Speaker 4 The

Speaker 4 boxers ain't never asking to go over there and fight. Because boxers are compensated.
Yeah. So it's like, y'all come over here and fight us because y'all want to make more money, right?

Speaker 4 We're not trying to go over there and make less money in the park, you know,

Speaker 4 get kicked or broke and checked out and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 So it's a difference.

Speaker 4 Anthony Josh, Jake Paul says you want to fight Anthony Joshua. Damn, Jake Paul would have fight everybody.

Speaker 4 I think Anthony and Joshua too big.

Speaker 4 Jake big.

Speaker 4 He ain't. I mean, Joshua like 250.
Yeah, Jake Paul big.

Speaker 4 They both big.

Speaker 4 Who you put your money on, then? Come on, man. Stop.

Speaker 4 Don't do that.

Speaker 4 Don't do that, too.

Speaker 4 I'm going to put... Oh, look.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's a, you talking about, that is a

Speaker 4 gold. I think Joshua won the gold medal in the Olympics.
He's a, I mean, look, his chin suspect. The chin like

Speaker 4 like glass. No, man, them dudes big, man.

Speaker 4 He big too he got too much muscle though he got too much muscle man i i don't never say nobody chin suspect in the heavyweight division you got to be able to take a punch he did take a punch

Speaker 4 he took a few you know what i mean

Speaker 4 them dudes big man yeah i know mac truck boom

Speaker 4 he was winning too

Speaker 4 no he'll not

Speaker 4 All right, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Hey, a little guy hitting you with a punch you don't see. Can you imagine a big guy hitting you with a punch you don't see? But just imagine a big guy hitting you with a punch you can see.

Speaker 4 I don't want to see it. You can't do nothing about it.
Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Them big dudes punching.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Help me with this.

Speaker 4 Deontay Wilder,

Speaker 4 he was running through. He was knocking everybody out.

Speaker 4 And it's always the same, the overhand right.

Speaker 4 Fury fought the first time. Thought he had Fury and Fury raised up like the Undertaker.
Yeah. Side up in the ring, got up.
It was a draw, draw, but a lot of people thought Fury won.

Speaker 4 I thought both of them won. You thought both of them won? You thought it was a draw.
You thought the draw with a fair outcome? Yeah, because

Speaker 4 I thought Fury won the decision, hands down, but I thought they should have called the fight off. I thought

Speaker 4 Wilder knocked him out. Okay.
Now the second fight,

Speaker 4 Deontay said it was the suit. He had this new suit way.
I thought it was there. Yeah, you don't see that big old suit.
It was cool, though. It looked good.

Speaker 4 But now, you know, when you come up with something like that,

Speaker 4 you got to be ready to rock and roll.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 them fights took a lot out of Deontay Wilder. They did.
You know, and then on top of that, once Tyson Fury felt his punch of power and he stood up to it, he wasn't afraid to get hit with it no more.

Speaker 4 And I think that just, you know,

Speaker 4 because once a guy don't feel your power, you kind of. It did something to his mental because he's so used to.

Speaker 4 Because then nobody had ever gotten up. When he landed that shot flush, no fighter had ever gotten up.
Right.

Speaker 4 And when he stood set up in that ring and he got up,

Speaker 4 what do I do now? If you hit a guy with your best shot, you hit him, bam.

Speaker 4 What I'm going to do? Hit him again.

Speaker 4 You're going to take these all night.

Speaker 4 I ain't going to hit you and be like, oh, shit. I'm going to be like, all right,

Speaker 4 you're gonna have to eat them all night.

Speaker 4 We ain't gonna stop just there.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. So,

Speaker 4 but then I watched.

Speaker 4 I thought after watching Fury fight and I watched him fight Deontay Wilden, I watched him fight a couple of other guys.

Speaker 4 I got a little concerned when he fought Joshua, but I didn't think he took Joshua serious. I don't think he thought, excuse me, I don't think he talked when he fought Francis and Ganu.

Speaker 4 I don't think he took him serious.

Speaker 4 And so I was like, man, can't nobody. And then I watched Yusuk, he get in the ring with Eleanor Yusuk and Yusuk just,

Speaker 4 what is what? I'm like, how, bro? You seem unbeatable for like three, four, five fights. And now you just

Speaker 4 styles make fights. So

Speaker 4 when you used to fighting these big, slower guys

Speaker 4 with a slower pace, and you get in with a smaller guy with a faster pace, with more movement and things like that,

Speaker 4 It's kind of harder than fighting those guys that you've been fighting

Speaker 4 in the past. And then Usik,

Speaker 4 he's tremendously talented. Yeah.
You know, so

Speaker 4 he's going to faint you, he's going to move, he's going to slip, he's going to counter you, he's going to tie you up, things like that. So

Speaker 4 it's difficult. Right.

Speaker 4 AB. A.
B scamming these guys in the dice game. I ain't going to ask that.

Speaker 4 Is that why you don't

Speaker 4 gamble anymore? Because you say, man, I feel like I was taking money from my homies, and probably some of the money that I was taking was my money to begin with.

Speaker 4 So all I'm doing is getting my money back, and they wasn't going to be able to pay me back. But are you, I mean, have you ever heard of a story like this before? Never.

Speaker 4 Because you know, people, boy,

Speaker 4 in the hood, they normally get you through stuff like that, man.

Speaker 4 I wonder if they're fabricating the

Speaker 4 amount, okay.

Speaker 4 What they say is one point no they say five million six point five and fixed dice game they said one point i'm telling you 6.5 ain't no 6.5 i'm telling you they said 1.5 they didn't say 6 give me give my phone give my phone we're gonna pull this up

Speaker 4 say 6.5 man

Speaker 4 come on now we for no we for the pull this up boy

Speaker 4 man hey listen you gotta get it how you live oh no

Speaker 4 hey you got

Speaker 4 if they allow him to get them in dice for that much money, then they deserve to get their money took.

Speaker 4 Because how the hell did you, in a street dice game, allow yourself to get that much money took from you? It's crazy.

Speaker 4 Man.

Speaker 4 Nah, man, what the instant... Nah,

Speaker 4 that's a fake site. No, it ain't no fake site.

Speaker 4 That's a fake side.

Speaker 4 He collected $6.5 million from the scheme, including $1.5 million from current NBA All-Star.

Speaker 4 5 million. $5 million

Speaker 4 from former players and $1.5 million from current. AB hitting them.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know the point? That till the phone.

Speaker 4 That till the phone bring the dice game up. Because ain't nobody going to believe you're going to hit the flowers without Lil Joe.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Man, somebody hurt you about that kind of money, man, for real. What?

Speaker 4 And probably because they are NBA players and they didn't do anything. But if you do somebody like that, that's a hood.
Oh, they sent for you. You know that, man.

Speaker 4 AB crazy, dude.

Speaker 4 But man, look here, AB had a nice, had a nice, he had a nice career. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Go ahead, man.

Speaker 4 Man, man, when A.B. After some of the the fight, when A.B.
started getting cooked, man, A-B, like, I'm getting cooked. Oh, man.

Speaker 4 He had his rhyme.

Speaker 4 When will Bud know it's time to leave?

Speaker 4 When my mom tells me to just stop.

Speaker 4 If she don't tell you to stop, you're going to keep going? Nah.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 4 How old is your oldest kid, child? 17. Youngest? One.

Speaker 4 You want the youngest to see what you do?

Speaker 4 They all see what I do.

Speaker 4 The one-year-old ain't seeing nothing yet. Oh, no, no, no.
He ain't going to be able to see it. Well, he sees it.

Speaker 4 He just don't know what he's watching. Yeah, he ain't going to be able to understand.
But I've been the lion. So 17 is the oldest.
So you probably got probably, what, like three over the age of 10?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So they know, so for a lot, the older ones, they know what you do. They know who dad is.
I know what I do. Okay.
All my kids, Even my daughter. She's four.

Speaker 4 She knows what I do.

Speaker 4 So you good? I mean, so now. I'm stray.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, you want to, what, you want to do this till you're 40? You want to like a couple of more fights?

Speaker 4 40 is crazy. Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 But I don't know.

Speaker 4 I'm focused right now on this one.

Speaker 4 So you, hey,

Speaker 4 I'll worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. But right now,

Speaker 4 this gets laser focused. There you go.
Right now, we in it. Right.

Speaker 4 What have you learned about money?

Speaker 4 It's paper. It comes and goes.
It changed people. I sure like it better coming and going.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it's the crazy thing: what money do for you but make you comfortable?

Speaker 4 It don't make you happy. No.
It don't fix things.

Speaker 4 It can fix certain things. What about freedom?

Speaker 4 It does allow you a certain level of freedom. Ah, in certain aspects.

Speaker 4 Because you can have money. You can have a lot of money, but still can't get in certain places.

Speaker 4 You can have a lot of money, but still can't sit at certain people's table. Right.
You know, so

Speaker 4 money is just a tool that you use to, you know,

Speaker 4 be somewhere comfortable.

Speaker 4 What's the worst investment you made? You buy something, I mean, you say you're not big in the car. You never bought no Rose, no Ferrari.

Speaker 4 What the hell? You driving a pickup truck at Obama?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I do got a pickup truck. A 2025 GMC Denali.

Speaker 4 HD.

Speaker 4 Culture book. Yeah.
2500.

Speaker 4 You want a farm? You got a farm? I drag your little car. Actually.

Speaker 4 Hey, you want to talk about my truck?

Speaker 4 I hook your little ride up. When you head out, I hook that diesel.
You're going to be like, hey, hey, hey, holy

Speaker 4 shit.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go get me a 650 tomorrow. That's cool.
And pull the rear end off your truck. You ain't going to pull the rear end.
We're going to be fighting.

Speaker 4 No, but I got cars, though. I got two Monte Carlos.

Speaker 4 I got a G-Wagon. I got a demon.
I got a denial. Oh, you got a demon, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I got the black ghost. Yeah.
Don't let me catch you on the street. That's cool.
Let's go. Don't let me catch you.
Because I know y'all got a lot of straight highways out there in Omaha.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's go. Ain't nothing really.

Speaker 4 Worry about a pig crossing the street and something like that.

Speaker 4 Man, we ain't got no pigs. You up back.
You with your baby cat.

Speaker 4 We don't got no regular pigs. What are you talking about, Texas? No, I'm talking about

Speaker 4 Nebraska.

Speaker 4 Let me ask this.

Speaker 4 Hey, man, you ain't going to keep talking about Nebraska. Where you from?

Speaker 4 Oh, country.

Speaker 4 I'm from Georgia. Yeah, old country Tan Lamb.

Speaker 4 I ain't from South Texas. I'm from South Georgia.
I'm from South Georgia. Trust me, it's country town georgia

Speaker 4 yeah

Speaker 4 what's out there

Speaker 4 farmland yeah uh

Speaker 4 hogs we got wheat

Speaker 4 onions

Speaker 4 onions yeah it's just it's farmland that's what you do farmland come on man

Speaker 4 your place can't compare to my place

Speaker 4 georgia

Speaker 4 You rather live in Georgia?

Speaker 4 I live in Atlanta. No, no, no, no.
Where you from?

Speaker 4 That's where you lived at.

Speaker 4 You live where you live at.

Speaker 4 I said where you're from.

Speaker 4 You ain't going to keep talking about. I mean, Omaha said, I want to come to Omaha.
I'm going to check it out. Well, come to Omaha.
Come to Omaha.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 What's the dish? What is Omaha famous for? What food? What dish are you? I just told you. What? Steaks.
Oh, you're the Omaha steaks. Yeah.
What else? The hell am I supposed to eat.

Speaker 4 You don't eat meat, so how do you know?

Speaker 4 Shit, I used to work there.

Speaker 4 Them people used to buy them bugs up, boy.

Speaker 4 All over the world, they talk about Omar Steaks. Yeah, they do.
I used to eat beef. I ain't like I ain't never eaten beef before.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 what's Bud's favorite meal? So, your mom or somebody. Pasta? Yeah, give me some lasagna.

Speaker 4 Peace. I'm a pasta.
I mean, pizza is okay.

Speaker 4 I ain't no lasagna, no spaghetti. Yeah, that's me.
Are you a breakfast person?

Speaker 4 I don't really be eating breakfast like that. Really? I eat it here and there.

Speaker 4 I eat it when I'm training, though. When I'm in training camp, I eat all my meals.
Right.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Are you ever going to leave Omaha? Are you there to stay? I'm probably there to stay. I'm probably stuck there.

Speaker 4 So it.

Speaker 4 What about the kids? What about the kids? Say, dad, you know what, A? Peace out.

Speaker 4 I'll see you when you come back. Yeah, I'm comfortable.
You know how, like, certain people, like, you might move back to Alabama. You never know.
Right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 They'd be gone for 40 years. They're like, man, when I die, I want to be buried home where I was born.
So I'm going to come back home, settle down, give me a house.

Speaker 4 And, you know, last 10, 20 years of my life, 15 years of my life, I'm going to be home.

Speaker 4 You're a big sports fan. What NBA player, NFL player, you believe could box?

Speaker 4 Because I see Dame. I see Dame hitting the gloves.

Speaker 4 Dame got some skills for sure.

Speaker 4 For boxer,

Speaker 4 Carl Anthony Towns, he be training. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 He got some skills.

Speaker 4 My boy D Smoke, he definitely got some skills. He be really boxing boxing.

Speaker 4 Football players.

Speaker 4 Ocho Cinco.

Speaker 4 Ocho, man, you got to tell him stop playing with you.

Speaker 4 Man, this Joe, he swear he floyd Maywell. Was it, man, was it LaDamian Thomas? Ladamian Thomas.
Man, he knocked that dude out. Then he.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, you talk about, nah, you talk about, uh, you talk about uh, the guy from Pittsburgh, the running back. Oh, Levian Bill.
Le'Veon Bell. Levian Bell, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 He knocked that Adrian Peterson. Yeah, Adrian Peterson.
Yeah, Frank Gore. Frank Gore fight.
Yeah, Frank Gore can fight too. I was just

Speaker 4 having dinner with Frank Gore. But yeah, man, LaDamien Thompson.

Speaker 4 Hey, I got somebody I need you to train.

Speaker 4 Stephen A. Can you help him out?

Speaker 4 Man, you see them uppercuts Stephen A was throwing?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Man, I saw them face coming from.

Speaker 4 What's up with him with LeBron, man? LeBron.

Speaker 4 Come on, man. I got you.
I got him. I got him.
Yeah, you got to help him out, man.

Speaker 4 I mean, he said he had his rotators. He old, though, man.
He old, though, man. Yeah.
He old, man. He needs to.
Shitty sheen.

Speaker 4 Don't even worry about fighting no more, man.

Speaker 4 You ain't got to throw a punch.

Speaker 4 So you're going to train it. Steven, I got you.
Bug gonna come in. He's gonna train.
You're gonna get you how to teach your mess, steal your feet, how to sit down, spend that front toe.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna teach him how to, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Teach him how to run. No.

Speaker 4 Teach him how to run. He ain't gotta run.
He just gotta work his finger out.

Speaker 4 Work his finger. Keep it steady.

Speaker 4 Keep it steady and straight. He's too old for all that.
You a Laker fan? Yes. You a Laker fan or you a LeBron fan? I'm a Laker fan.
I ain't even want LeBron to be on the Lakers. What? Yeah.

Speaker 4 But we gonna fall out man they can fall out why would i want lebron on the lakers when we was competing against y'all hadn't been competing a long time

Speaker 4 y'all ain't won no championships 2009 and 2010 and we won against the uh the who

Speaker 4 chill hand let me ask you a question you remember you remember when you beat miami who was on the team when they beat miami in the bubble it don't matter

Speaker 4 lebron was with us that's what i'm saying but what i'm saying is when lebron played for cleveland and all that we was competing against Yeah, yeah, we competing. That's what I'm saying.
So,

Speaker 4 I didn't want LeBron on the Lakers. No, you didn't want LeBron and Kobe? I wanted Kobe.

Speaker 4 Man, can't you just imagine LeBron and Kobe? Yeah, but that was imaginary. But see, now, just think about what a Lakers would be if they didn't have LeBron.
Yeah, we'd have somebody else.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah. You remember what you had when Kobe retired? We'd have somebody else.
Nothing. We'll have somebody else.
No, you didn't. Hold on.
Is it true Trey Songs tried to fight you?

Speaker 4 No, damn. Why everybody keep talking about that, man? Trey Songs was just having a moment.
He was, you know what I mean? He gonna put a miss on you?

Speaker 4 He gonna put a miss on you.

Speaker 4 Huh? Put the miss on me. It was crazy.

Speaker 4 He just was having a moment. Did he know who you were?

Speaker 4 I don't know. That's why I said I couldn't understand.
But you really couldn't gauge it because you're like,

Speaker 4 Do I do this for real? Yeah, like, yeah, that's what it it was.

Speaker 4 Is he serious, or is he just playing? I'm waiting for him to be like, ah, I'll just play with you. But he didn't do that.
Nah.

Speaker 4 You go put.

Speaker 4 I wasn't going to punch him. You would do a better body blow? I was going to choke him.
Come on.

Speaker 4 Come on, man. Yeah, I was going to choke him.
He would have

Speaker 4 did one of them crazy swings. I'd have ducked him.
Choke him.

Speaker 4 Dude, I mean, has anybody like

Speaker 4 because a lot of times people might, because they look at your size and they might not know who you are right and they like

Speaker 4 Feel some type of way you ain't never got into it with a celebrity have you somebody like talking trash you like bro come on this ain't what you want no that was the only person that's really yeah I had a lightweight got into a little altercation with Jeezy but it was not like that right

Speaker 4 but yeah I don't want to choke you

Speaker 4 I don't even want to punch you have you ever been choked before

Speaker 4 no

Speaker 4 so just imagine imagine

Speaker 4 somebody like got your life in their hands. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they decided whether they want to let you go or not. Damn.
So just imagine when them people getting choked out in the UFC. Yeah.
And they like,

Speaker 4 just imagine that. So if he taps you, you ain't going to let it go.
That's what I'm saying. Just imagine it.
You think about it.

Speaker 4 If ain't no reflection to be like, hey, let him go. You know what I mean? Like, you're going to get up and you're going to think twice.
Like, that nigga could have killed me. He'll kill me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, you just choke him and just be like, hey, now, now, now, get on now.

Speaker 4 Clarissa Shields.

Speaker 4 I don't think there's really any question that she's the best woman's boxer today. Of all time.
All time. You putting over Leila Lee? All time.
And I love Layla. Wolf? All time.

Speaker 4 Cole miners' daughter? All time.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 There's no comparison. Damn.

Speaker 4 At all. All time.

Speaker 4 I love Layla too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But ain't nobody coming close to Clarissa. Right.

Speaker 4 Two-time

Speaker 4 Olympic gold medal? Yes.

Speaker 4 Three-time undisputed?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 How many weight classes she did?

Speaker 4 Six?

Speaker 4 Six different weight classes? Now, I understand it ain't a lot of women boxing. Right.

Speaker 4 But she's the best of what's out there, or what's ever been out there. That still don't take away the accolades that she Pose.
Right.

Speaker 4 It's no, it's no comparison.

Speaker 4 You got your name got dropped in a diss song.

Speaker 4 Kendra Lamar's name dropped you in a diss song.

Speaker 4 You like, so when people have your option, so it wasn't like to like hear your name, because I want to hear my name called in a song. Bro, I don't care what the song is.

Speaker 4 I just want to hear my name called in a song.

Speaker 4 That's it forever. Because you know I ain't nobody.
Yeah. Your name in that song forever.
You know that, right? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 My name has been in plenty of songs, you know. But when I heard it,

Speaker 4 I was just like, oh, that's crazy. Right.
That was it. Like, everybody was hitting me up, like, man, Kendrick, put you in this song.
You know, I was just like, oh, yeah. I was like, oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 You know, and I just left it at that. I didn't get like, you ain't all get all excited.
Like,

Speaker 4 I'm getting residuals from this. No, I ain't getting shit.

Speaker 4 You was on the set of Creed 3 with Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Major.
What's it like being on the set? Because

Speaker 4 they fishing you?

Speaker 4 No, it was dope. It was dope, you know, to see Michael B.
Jordan and his

Speaker 4 element.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And his element and see him navigating everything.

Speaker 4 They shooting, and then he's stopping and he grabbing the camera. And he's like, all right, we're going to do this and we're going to do this.

Speaker 4 I was just like, I'm looking back, like, man, this dude talented, man. Yeah.
You know, for you to be

Speaker 4 in person

Speaker 4 acting,

Speaker 4 then directing, then changing stuff. You know what I mean? Like, oh, we're going to do it this way.
I'm like, man, that's cold. You know?

Speaker 4 What's it like to knock someone out?

Speaker 4 You don't even feel it.

Speaker 4 You don't? Nah.

Speaker 4 Sometimes you don't even feel it.

Speaker 4 Like you knock somebody out, you'll be like, man, I ain't even hit them that hard. Because the ones that you try to hit them with,

Speaker 4 don't hear them out. Yeah, you'll be missing them or it don't get them out.
But the ones that you least expected, it'd be like,

Speaker 4 it kind of surprised you. Right.

Speaker 4 But sometimes when you hit them, you know what I mean? And you can feel it, you'd be like, I know I got them.

Speaker 4 So it'll be cool. So you know when you get that, what's the hardest, what's the hardest hit you've been hit? What you've received?

Speaker 4 Probably Gambo.

Speaker 4 Bells ring, he's like buzzing, like. Yeah, he buzzed me.

Speaker 4 I walked right into it.

Speaker 4 When you watched that fight, I just put my hands down. I was like, I had just hit him with an uppercut.

Speaker 4 They thought you had him up. No, I just looked at him like, and he just cracked fop.

Speaker 4 That motherfucker said, boom.

Speaker 4 Fuck.

Speaker 4 Let me crack this motherfucker.

Speaker 4 Let me grab his ass.

Speaker 4 Is today's boxers as tough as the boxers of?

Speaker 4 Damn, you didn't let me finish, bud.

Speaker 4 It It ain't

Speaker 4 boxers back in the days was way tougher than the boxers of today. Could you imagine fighting with six-ounce horse hair gloves for 15 rounds?

Speaker 4 You get knocked down, the person's standing over you, so when you get up, he can punch you again. Wow.

Speaker 4 Or they used to fight until somebody got knocked out. It used to be unlimited rounds.
So it's just like, man, it's crazy. Man, them people was crazy.
Yeah. But I think our skills have evolved more.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 4 It's a trade-off. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Sex before a fight. Were you on sex before a fight? Yeah, nay.
Man, I'm hitting something.

Speaker 4 But what about all the fighters and say, nah,

Speaker 4 you don't partake in any of that? That's a lie. I've been doing that my whole career.
I think it's a...

Speaker 4 It's my remedy.

Speaker 4 Remedy for what? Before I fight. It relaxes you.
It relaxed me. Yeah.
I swear to God. Like, I swear.
Not the night before the fight, but... No, no, no.
The week before. No, like, like, Friday.

Speaker 4 Whole doing training camp? Like, Friday, Thursday. Like, Thursday, Thursday.
Before the fight? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I swear to God, like, everybody always asked me, you know, because that's been the thing people always want to know. If I did, I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 It relaxed me. But I don't want to go in the ring all like uptight.

Speaker 4 I want to to go in there smooth. Right.
Water. Like being able to see everything.
Right. You know what I mean? But it ain't for everybody.

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Speaker 4 Because you hear all that, nah, I don't do that. But were you nervous? Because you had heard, I'm sure everybody told you, man, you can't have no sex before the fight, man.
No sex before the fight.

Speaker 4 The whole time, the whole six weeks, eight weeks, teams weeks, however long it is, man, you can't do that. And you did it, and then you won.
That opened.

Speaker 4 Nah, I just look at it like when you training, when you're playing football, right?

Speaker 4 They tell you not to have sex they say get off your feet okay but they ain't say nothing about her on her feet

Speaker 4 my point

Speaker 4 my point thank you so so so

Speaker 4 when you

Speaker 4 i tell people this

Speaker 4 when you not training for a fight right you and then you go work out right you don't think about it the only reason why you're tired is because you're trying to be a porn star right if you let her do all the work right good you saving your legs

Speaker 4 hip thrusting,

Speaker 4 squatting, ain't doing none of that. You know what I mean? You're just getting your load off.
You know what I mean? And then you good.

Speaker 4 But if you want to go out there and you performing and stuff like that,

Speaker 4 that's a workout. Of course, you're going to be tired.
Right.

Speaker 4 So that's my take on it. Right.

Speaker 4 Kids, you got seven. Right.
All your kids are by the same woman.

Speaker 4 Six. Six of them.
My last one, not.

Speaker 4 You want more kids? Are you done? I don't know.

Speaker 4 Damn, Nick Cannon.

Speaker 4 No, no, Nick Kenny got

Speaker 4 it, got too many babe bombers.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Nah. Would you let your boys, you gonna let the, even the girls, you let them box, you let them play football?

Speaker 4 No boxing? No boxing, no football. Come on, boy.
Damn, you did it.

Speaker 4 That's why I did it, so they don't have to do it. But what if they say, Dad? No.

Speaker 4 You ain't let me be. No.
He gonna be, he's like. sit down, no.
He's 6'3 ⁇ , 200. But then he ain't gonna be 6'3, because I'm not 6'0 and his mama, not 6'

Speaker 4 So, so, so he ain't gonna be 6' nothing. He's lucky if he's gonna be 5'8.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 You guys have been together since the beginning. Right.

Speaker 4 I mean, and you, but the thing is, like, I think everybody wants that.

Speaker 4 that fairy tale.

Speaker 4 When I didn't have anything, I had you. Now that I have everything, I still have you.
It doesn't happen often, but I think everybody, I think most guys long for that.

Speaker 4 How did you know, or did you know

Speaker 4 highs, lows, in between, no matter what, she was going to reach your ride up?

Speaker 4 She

Speaker 4 put her to the test. How you...

Speaker 4 No, I'm saying you both put to the test. It's not just her.
Right.

Speaker 4 You put to the test deal with the stuff that she brings to the table. Bring to the table.
You know what I mean? She so forth. So, you know,

Speaker 4 it's a two-way street when it comes to that because you're going to put up with a lot just like she's going to put up with a lot. And,

Speaker 4 y'all, I got to see if things work out. Right.
What is having her in your life? What has that meant to you? Oh, I meant a lot, you know, because she...

Speaker 4 supportive with my kids and things like that. She handled my kids and it's not hard.
I mean, it's not easy taking care of six kids by yourself.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I love her dearly for that. So when I'm out of training camps and, you know,

Speaker 4 like out in Vegas right now, she's handling the house and holding the fort down. Right.
So

Speaker 4 it's definitely appreciated. Right.
You know, for me to have a person like that in my corner. But you said something interesting.
You said the last one is not by her. Right.

Speaker 4 Last one not by her. Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 And you would tell me how you sit here with your eye not closed.

Speaker 4 Things happen.

Speaker 4 Like, you know, different circumstances. How do you

Speaker 4 walk us through it? How you go home, hey, babe. Hey, you doing, babe? How you doing today? I'm good, bud.
What's going on? I brought you something.

Speaker 4 Hey, well, what's going on?

Speaker 4 Shit. I, you know, hey, so, uh, how you doing? Sit down.
Let me just, bud, what you want to, what you got to tell me, bud? Nigga, got one on the way.

Speaker 4 Just like that, bud? See, you can't lie. How you gonna lie?

Speaker 4 You rather tell her now

Speaker 4 it's gonna be worse when the baby comes, right?

Speaker 4 I'm just a man. What you say? What you say? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Did you yell, scream, dot your eye? Man.

Speaker 4 Hey, you know what, bud? You ain't got, hey, hey, you ain't got no $300,000 car. She got one.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 She driving Mercedes.

Speaker 4 Maybach?

Speaker 4 GLE.

Speaker 4 No, she gotta get a Maybach.

Speaker 4 Oh, you tripping. Now, now you tripping.
Maybach.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 You don't Maybach your ass to that GLE.

Speaker 4 Fuck.

Speaker 4 Smile.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But it's nice. That mug, nice.
It drives by itself and all.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 4 How many kids you got? Three. How many baby mamas? Three.
Three different baby mamas? Yeah. So the first one didn't dot your eye?

Speaker 4 The second one didn't dot your other eye? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 I wasn't with them like that, but no, no, no. I don't care.

Speaker 4 You was with them to have a baby by. But I'm saying, I thought you was with them.
No, I was with them. They thought you was with them.

Speaker 4 It wasn't like your situation.

Speaker 4 But I wish I'd had a situation that's the only thing i regret that's the only regret i have i wish i'd had all three with the same one yeah no matter whoever whoever i was gonna be with i wish i'd have been able to do that see i'm cool i'm good you want more kids too you ain't done i bet you have 10.

Speaker 4 i bet if i come back

Speaker 4 i bet if i come back four years from now i bet you have 10. i wanted 10.

Speaker 4 i did i used to always say i'm gonna have 10 kids Man, you know, kids expensive, bud. It is.
That's why I'm like, that's why I pushed off. Like, hey, hold up, man.
Yeah. Especially

Speaker 4 getting older.

Speaker 4 Dad, can I, I'm 17. Can I get a car? And they like when you and I were kids, boy.
You know,

Speaker 4 but I love it. I love it.
My house is never dull. Right.
You know, I love being a father. You know, I love, you know,

Speaker 4 the whole yelling and arguing. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, man. Because you're going to miss it when you get older.
Yeah. You're going to be sitting around there with your wife.
She's going to be grumpy.

Speaker 4 It's going to be be a while before you have to worry about that. I understand that, but you're going to be bored and you're going to be like, damn,

Speaker 4 let me go.

Speaker 4 Baby, can you make some grandkids? You know what I mean? Because you're going to want them kids to love you and things like that. And I just, you know,

Speaker 4 my grandma, she old, and she broke her ankle one time.

Speaker 4 And they put her in a nursing home to rehabilitate her ankle.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 to go in there and to see all those old people that don't have no family. Sad.
Or the family members. Don't come.
Right. Don't come as often.

Speaker 4 I never wanted to be like that. Like, I never wanted to be like that.
I never wanted to die, you know, not loved or mistreated or my family not being there to take care of me.

Speaker 4 So, you know,

Speaker 4 I know my kids, but I know they bet not.

Speaker 4 That's all I do. Y'all better be here.
They bet not. I ain't going to no home.
I'm going to stay right here. Thank you.
And y'all come take care of me. Thank you.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 And that's the joy of having a big family. You know, everybody sticks together.
My kids ain't got to worry about friends. They got each other, you know, at the end of the day.
And

Speaker 4 when they mom and their dad and their grandma and grandpa pass away, they're going to still have each other from start to finish. Right.
You know, they're going to have each other. Because

Speaker 4 they're going to have me from the start, but they ain't gonna have me from the finish.

Speaker 4 But they're gonna have each other from start to finish.

Speaker 4 Best of luck, Bud Crawford. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 You say you seem like you're getting ready.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 you real loose right now, but I can tell that the storm is brewing. Right, right.
You getting ready for something special.

Speaker 4 I'm chilling. I'm chilling.

Speaker 4 i'm always ready i'm always ready always special you know i mean you just got to stay ready so you don't got to get ready so let me ask you this when you like you know what how do you determine like do you determine do your team determine who and where you're going to fight Or do you say, like, you know what, I want to fight this guy.

Speaker 4 He got a belt. I think that'll be a very compelling fight.
That's a fight that makes money and it increases my legacy.

Speaker 4 Well, it's a team approach, but for the most part, at the end of the day, it's my decision. Right.

Speaker 4 Because I'm the one that got to go in there and fight and put the gloves on and risk my health and my life. So at the end of the day, it's on me.

Speaker 4 And my team just supportive of what I want to accomplish in the sport of boxing.

Speaker 4 You and I were talking earlier, and you said you were a football player, and then you're like, man, later, Fidel, because you were small. I think you told me you were 4'11

Speaker 4 as a freshman.

Speaker 4 And so

Speaker 4 how did you decide to say, you know what? I'm going to try boxing. Well, I was already boxing at the age of seven.
Okay, okay. You know what I I mean so being that I

Speaker 4 had got kicked out you know I went to other sports right so I went to basketball football wrestling baseball things like that so playing different sports along the

Speaker 4 way when I got a little older I was just like man you got to make a decision right what sport you're gonna play and I was just like man

Speaker 4 Kind of too short to play basketball, even though I played basketball in high school, I was just like, I'm going back to boxing. What drew you to the sport of boxing?

Speaker 4 I think boxing drew itself to me. Okay.
You know, I think.

Speaker 4 You like to fight, huh? I love to fight.

Speaker 4 I just think, you know, being that my dad, my uncle, my grandpa, you know, my mom was around boxing her whole life. I think it was just something that was in the blood.
Right. You know,

Speaker 4 and that's what chose me. So, you know, I've been boxing ever since.
Who's your favorite fighter growing up? Did you watch Sugar Ray, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, Roy Jones?

Speaker 4 I mean, who were some of the guys that you Roy Jones always been my favorite fighter of all time? Really? Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, hands down. Wow.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 you're kind of following kind of what, you know, I think Floyd started off at 130, 35, 40, 47, with the 54. You started out at 35, 40, 47, junior middleweight.

Speaker 4 Now you're going to try to, we're going to talk about that a little later. Jump two.
Two weight classes, go all the way to 168, super middleweight. Roy did the unthinkable.

Speaker 4 Started out as junior middleweight, 60, 68.

Speaker 4 Go all the way to 193, take the belt from Ruiz, come back down, do light, do a light, heavyweight.

Speaker 4 When you were thinking, like, hold on, in order to be special, it's hard to be special and just stay in one weight division.

Speaker 4 Were you, did you always envision going up in weight and try to clean out each division? Not at all.

Speaker 4 You know, when...

Speaker 4 When I look at my life and how I started boxing, I always envisioned myself being a world champion. That was it.
That was it.

Speaker 4 I never thought about being fighter of the year, pound for pound, number one fighter. Six times, fighter of the year.
You know what I mean? Like, none of that, you know.

Speaker 4 Well, nominated maybe six times, you know, but I never thought of that. You know, I just was like, I want to be a world champion.
That's it.

Speaker 4 You know, but along the lines of becoming a world champion, I was like, oh man, I want more.

Speaker 4 I'm not finished yet. I want more.
So every time I grab, you know, a new accolade, I'm like, all right. Well, I want more.

Speaker 4 You find something else to accomplish. Yeah, for sure.
Because when I'm looking at it, bud, you're the first male two time in two different weight classes to be undisputed than the four-belt era.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That you got all

Speaker 4 if there's a belt, if there's an Hermes belt, YSL, Tom Ford, you got it.

Speaker 4 WBA, IBF, Ring magazine, whatever the belt is, you have in two divisions,

Speaker 4 you're the first male to do that. When you sit back, I mean, probably you haven't had an opportunity to really think about it because you're still in it.

Speaker 4 Do you realize and understand just how special what you've done thus far is? Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? Like, I was at my house the other day. I just built a new house, it just got done.
And I was like, man, it's an old Mahara coffee, $57.

Speaker 4 I was like, hey, man,

Speaker 4 I ain't going to tell you nothing.

Speaker 4 Hey, no, but listen. So I was sitting in the house and I was just sitting there and I was just like, man, because sometimes I don't congratulate myself.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know, I just, you know, keep it moving. Right.
I was like, man,

Speaker 4 thank you, God. I was just like, man, you did all this with your hands.

Speaker 4 Like, from this little dusty little blad, little black dude from the neighborhood

Speaker 4 that is your name on the street now. Right.

Speaker 4 You did all that, came this far to this.

Speaker 4 You know, it's a blessing. So I was just like, man, pat myself on the back, look at my accomplishments, and, you know what I mean, and just

Speaker 4 think to myself that anything is possible. Because you hear a lot of athletes say, you know, when you say, well, what do you think you've done?

Speaker 4 You're like, well, once I'm done, I'll get an opportunity to look back. And because

Speaker 4 you're still in the journey.

Speaker 4 You haven't arrived at the destination where you say, you know what, I'm putting the gloves up, I'm hanging the trunks up, and I'm in.

Speaker 4 You're still on this journey. And for you to sit here and say, you know what, I did.

Speaker 4 I mean, I was at the house the other day and I'm looking around and I'm looking at the belts on the wall and I'm looking at all the accolades and I'm like, wow, I did all this.

Speaker 4 When you say,

Speaker 4 I did all this, what are you thinking?

Speaker 4 No, I'm just thinking like, you know, more to come, more to do. There's definitely more to come.
Okay.

Speaker 4 That's why I said anything is possible. Right.
You know, because I was doubted my whole life.

Speaker 4 You know, coming up, you know, nobody thought I was going to be be where i am at right you know i didn't think i was gonna be where i'm at right especially living the life that i was living so you know uh to accomplish so much in a sport of boxing when so many roadblocks was in front of me and try to stop me and block me from accomplishing the things that i accomplished this far it's like dog you you overcame so much you can you can overcome even more in the future.

Speaker 4 Do you sleep well building up to the fight?

Speaker 4 Like, obviously, you say, you know, like the last six weeks, you might go, you might come to Vegas, you might go to Colorado Springs or somewhere to go and get altitude training.

Speaker 4 But let's just say the last two weeks of a fight, the last week, the waning, like, let's say the last week leading up to the fight, because you probably arrived.

Speaker 4 If you're fighting in Vegas, how soon you get to Vegas? Probably like two weeks. Two weeks before.
Yeah. Do you sleep good? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Of course. Do you still get nervous? All the time.

Speaker 4 I think everybody gets nervous.

Speaker 4 I don't know a fighter personally that will keep it real and be like, oh, I don't get nervous.

Speaker 4 Because you never know. Like, I don't care how good you is.
I don't care how bad you think you are. That opponent always has a chance.

Speaker 4 Everybody always got a chance. You know, it can be a punch that you don't see or some stupid, crazy, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 punch and you know it's over with you know what uh i heard floyd may well and i talked to floyd and he said that he didn't watch his opponents, he didn't watch film on his opponent.

Speaker 4 That was his dad's job, that was his Uncle Roger's job. They did that, and they would implement the game plan.

Speaker 4 Do you watch film on your opponents, or do you leave that up to your training team to tell you, okay, this is what he does, and this is how we're going to combat that?

Speaker 4 Well, for the most part, everybody that I fought already seen him fall, okay, because I'm a fan of the sport, okay, you know, so I follow you anyway, you know.

Speaker 4 But far as like watching you and studying you you and sitting down, nah, like I watched some fights of you in camp,

Speaker 4 but you're not gonna fight me the same way, right? No, no fighter that I ever fought fought me the exact same way that they fought someone else previously in the age.

Speaker 4 But when I played, I didn't want to watch a team that we're gonna play. So if they're playing on a Monday night football, I'm not gonna watch them because I didn't want to get a false sense.

Speaker 4 Because if they play really good, I'm like, damn, how are we gonna beat this team? If they play bad, I'm like, oh, we got a cakewalk. So anybody that we're gonna play,

Speaker 4 I'm not watching them on television. Now, obviously, I'm going to watch the film because I got to break them down.
I want to know what they're going to do down in this

Speaker 4 area of the field and things like that. But for you to say, like, you know, I've studied them.
So you're watching them. Let's just say you're ringside and you're watching them.

Speaker 4 And you're like, man, if I fought this dude, I would do this, this, I would take this away. I would do this.
I'll walk him into this trap. Is that how you're thinking as you walk today?

Speaker 4 Because I'm analyzing the game. If I'm watching a football game, I'm analyzing it.
Oh, they're in this formation. They're vulnerable here.

Speaker 4 Okay, you better be careful because the blitz can come catch you here. I'm analyzing the game.
I'm just not thinking about touchdowns or catches or yards. I'm analyzing the game.

Speaker 4 I'm playing the game within the game. Is that how you do it? No.

Speaker 4 You just, you're playing.

Speaker 4 Okay, really? You can do that? Yeah, I'm watching as a fan.

Speaker 4 You know, I see openings, but at the same time, it depends on if it's one of my teammates or somebody I know that's fighting the fighter or...

Speaker 4 or whatnot, but I'm just watching as a fan. But if I'm about to fight somebody

Speaker 4 and I do watch, I just watch for tendencies, things that

Speaker 4 they do on a consistent basis.

Speaker 4 He do this, he do this, he do this, he don't like this.

Speaker 4 They don't like certain things

Speaker 4 in a fight. So you just break certain little things down.

Speaker 4 When you sit in ringside, do you get annoyed when people say, hey, what you think, bud? If he win it, he loses it. What would you do?

Speaker 4 Because when I'm at a football game, it's hard, or when I would go to a bar, hey, what do you think? Without a holding, what should they have called here? What should they have done there?

Speaker 4 I'm like, bro, I'm trying to. Can you really enjoy the fight when you're at a fight? Yeah, for sure.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Because for the most part, I'm with people that knows boxing. Okay, they know the game.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I'm not in an area where it's a whole lot of fans that don't know what they're watching.

Speaker 4 So I like to be, you know,

Speaker 4 in a spot where, you know, it's a lot of boxing knowledge, you know, and then for the most most part, you know, everybody's just watching it.

Speaker 4 You know, you hear people yelling out things like jab or keep your hands up and so forth, but I'm just watching.

Speaker 4 So you don't ever like, man, come on, bro. You should have read this, man.
Get down here.

Speaker 4 Like, as a competitor,

Speaker 4 you know, you think like, man, dude, you was tripping. Like, you could have did this and did this and did this.
But at the same time, you don't got no dog in the race, so you just watch it as a fan.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this. When it's all said and done, could you be a trainer? Because I think, you know, we see Buddy McGurk did it.
I think Virgil Hill became a trainer.

Speaker 4 There have been a lot of guys that not like you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I think it's harder. I think the greater the player is in a said sport, the harder it is for him to coach.
Because people think it came easy. And maybe it did.

Speaker 4 You worked hard, but you just had natural gifts that allowed you to see things and do things a lot quicker than someone else that had to work for it. Could you see yourself being a trainer, bud?

Speaker 4 I don't know. You know, I think training

Speaker 4 is tough. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 4 a lot of people don't give these coaches enough credit. You know, they

Speaker 4 gone from their family. They probably have 10 fighters.
You know, they camp here, camp here, camp here, camp here. You know, they away from their families.

Speaker 4 You got fighters that don't listen. You got fighters

Speaker 4 that talk back. You know, you got...
You got to have a lot of patience to be a trainer.

Speaker 4 Or coach, yes. Yeah, and I'm like.
You ain't got no patience, huh?

Speaker 4 I ain't got no patience, but they say that come with age, yes, you know, they said, they say it comes with age because, you know, you're sitting here and you're trying to teach somebody something, but they keep doing the same stuff that you're telling them not to do.

Speaker 4 And it's like, bruh, like,

Speaker 4 because let me ask you a question. Have a coach ever like, bud, we worked on this in camp, bud, you can do this, bud, just circle, you know, outside, step outside.

Speaker 4 Can you, do you know, like, like, damn, I'm effing this up right now. Can you self-evaluate yourself while you're in the ring? For sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 You know, I know what I'm doing wrong, when I'm doing it, you know, but at times, we all need a reminder. Right.
You know, I might go back to the

Speaker 4 corner and the coach might tell me, hey, listen, you're doing this wrong. You know, I'm like, I know, I know.
Then we have a conversation in the middle of the break.

Speaker 4 Like, all right. And then I come back and be like, all right, I see that you fixed that, but you're doing this now.
Okay. You know, like, let's tighten that up.

Speaker 4 Or, you know, you'll be like all right good job good job I see I see you working on this you know because me and my team we've been together since I was seven wow you know so

Speaker 4 they know you you know them you feel very comfortable if if they see me trying something they see I they know what I'm trying if they see me how I'm moving or or certain body languages, they already know what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 Like, all right, I see you looking for it, you know what I mean? But trying doing this to bring it out of him so you can land what you want to land. So, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 That's how close and tight me and my team is. You're in the fight.
You're fighting. Are you thinking about what you have to do? Are you like, okay, I'm thinking about doing this.

Speaker 4 His counter to this is this. Are you trying to like pick up tendencies, what he's trying to do? Or are you more focused on what you need to do? All of the above.

Speaker 4 You know, like my head, my head is racing like

Speaker 4 crazy. You know what I mean? When I'm in the ring, I'm looking at the tendencies.
I'm looking at things that you do. I'm thinking that, I'm looking at things you don't do.

Speaker 4 I'm looking at when I faint, what you do. When I punch, what you do, you know what I mean? When I counter you, what you do.
Like, everything that I do in the ring is calculated. Okay.

Speaker 4 You know, so I know, like, I might do something and don't do it until four rounds later. Right.
Like, let me come back today. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Or I might throw a feint at you and be like, all right. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I see you win for that, but I ain't going to do it right now, but I'm going to catch you a little later because we got a lot of time, you know. So you got to be able to outthink the next fighter.

Speaker 4 It ain't all about what I'm about to do to this guy. It's, you know, it's how I'm going to break this guy down.
You know,

Speaker 4 how I'm going to take away

Speaker 4 his strong points and, you know, I mean, make it his weak points. You know, so it's, it's a lot of.

Speaker 4 We hear other sports, basketball players, we've heard Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, great players, that's zone. Football players, Taron Brady, Patrick Mahomes, running backs, zone.

Speaker 4 Baseball player, Barry Bond says, I'm in a zone. I can actually see, I can tell the pitch that the pitcher is going to throw before he actually threw it.

Speaker 4 Bud, what is it like when Bud Crawford gets in the zone? Man, everything's just flowing. You know, can you like pinpoint, like, oh, yeah, you about to do that.
I did this, you about to do that.

Speaker 4 I'm ready for that. And then everything just like, does it slow down?

Speaker 4 I think every fighter at the highest level gets into that zone and you just know. Because as a boxer, you know, if I throw this punch, what punches can hit me? What punches can counter?

Speaker 4 You know, so you'll see some fighters, they'll throw a punch and they'll miss, but they'll be racing for the counter because, you know, they know, you know, this punch can land

Speaker 4 if I throw this punch, this punch can land. You know, so if this punch can land and he counter with this, I can counter with this.
Because there is a counter for every counter.

Speaker 4 So every time you open up to throw a punch, you accept the bow,

Speaker 4 you know, but at the same time,

Speaker 4 if he counter me, I can counter him. So you got to always be thinking like, you got a split second to think, you know, and that's when the winning starts getting a

Speaker 4 play.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 help me with this. We see guys in the amateurs and they don't win much and they become world champs.

Speaker 4 And we see guys that maybe lose one or two fights in the amateurs and be some slow when they come to the pros.

Speaker 4 What is it that big of a difference between the amateurs and the pros? Definitely, definitely for one. You know,

Speaker 4 when I was in the amateurs, we was fighting two men in four rounds in the nationals. You know, you got point system.
Right. You know, everybody want to.

Speaker 4 Some people got pro styles, some people got amateur styles. So you have somebody come in and throw a whole bunch of punches, hold, and survive for four rounds.
You know, that's the amateur game.

Speaker 4 But then you got some fighters that have that style that's just trying to catch up to you.

Speaker 4 You know, you might jump out on them, but as you see, round three, round four, you know, this guy's holding, but he just skated away. Right.

Speaker 4 You know, he knows he knows how to move, you know, within the amateur program. But then when you see when they turn pro, the guy that was more tailor-made for the professional, you know, know,

Speaker 4 he'd be more successful. Then you got smaller gloves, no headgear, you know, and

Speaker 4 it's a difference. But see,

Speaker 4 rounds, getting ready for a fight, how many rounds you go in? Man, I don't even count my rounds. Really?

Speaker 4 Do you fight like, let's just say for the sake of argument, you go, so you have a guy come in the first round. Do you have another guy come in the second round?

Speaker 4 Another guy come in with different styles? Yeah, it depends. We might go two rounds, two rounds, two rounds.

Speaker 4 We might go three rounds, three rounds, we might go one, one, one, one, one to get different approach.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? So

Speaker 4 it's different. It depends on what the coaches want at that

Speaker 4 day. Sometimes, you know, we might spar one up sparring partner the whole sparring session.
You know, you always sparring headgear? You always? Yeah, yeah, for sure. How to protect yourself.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know, you don't want to get cut. You don't want to take too many punches in training.
What size training gloves? 14 out, 16? 16? 16? Yeah.

Speaker 4 What type of gloves do you fight in?

Speaker 4 Tens, nah. I used to fight in eights.
Eights? Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's brand? Everlast.

Speaker 4 I had some Everlasting. Does anybody still fight in Reyes? Because when I was growing up, everybody fought in Reyes.
Here and there. You'll see some fighters here and there, but for the most part.

Speaker 4 Everlast, winning, Gant.

Speaker 4 Well, not winning, but Grant.

Speaker 4 Floyd fought in winning. He had hand problems.
Yeah, okay, because they are cushioning. So you got rival, you got Everlast, and you got Grant for the most part.
Okay.

Speaker 4 That people fighting in right now.

Speaker 4 Nello fighting his own gloves.

Speaker 4 How did you decide what type of glove you were with the trial and error? You fight in a lot of different gloves and says, okay, these field of bets?

Speaker 4 For me,

Speaker 4 I only fought in Everlast except my last fight. I think Everlast,

Speaker 4 you know, me being comfortable with them and them being

Speaker 4 the gloves that I started with, I just was always comfortable with them. Okay, you know, and then when I put on a different glove,

Speaker 4 they just feel different because all of them made difference. So, you know, I was just always comfortable.

Speaker 4 What are you looking for in a glove? Because some people, like, I want to feel my knuckle right to the top. I want to be, I want you to feel it.

Speaker 4 I just want my hand to be comfortable because I got big hands. Right, yeah.
You know, so

Speaker 4 when I put them in

Speaker 4 the eight ounces, man, they'd be like this, man.

Speaker 4 Like when you go to fight, you want everything to be comfortable. Yes, you want to be here.
You know what I mean? So

Speaker 4 I used to get the MXs because they're wider. Right.
You know,

Speaker 4 the Power Locks is more thinner, you know, but MX's is wider. So I put them on.
The guy that tapes your hand. He's been taping your hand your whole career? Me.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You tape your own hand or you have somebody else tape them? Me. You tape your own.
Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah.

Speaker 4 He said the guy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I have.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 Are you the only fighter that do that? Doesn't that? Oh, you got Manny Pacquiao that taped his own hands. Steven

Speaker 4 Nelson, he taped his own. Fighters do it.
Right. I always did it because in the amateurs, you know, I had a time where I had let one of my coaches tape my hands and

Speaker 4 it fell asleep. And ever since then, I was like, man, I'm not doing that no more.
Going in there, like

Speaker 4 there to all sleep and stuff. So I've been doing it ever since I was a kid.
Wow.

Speaker 4 Appreciate the techniques, but you know, hey. For sure, for sure.
I should have been a heavyweight. But see, the thing is, bud,

Speaker 4 what you've been able to do is because you did this for an extreme, like you said, you started boxing at seven. So you got 30 plus years of experience.

Speaker 4 It's just like somebody plays football, somebody plays basketball, somebody plays baseball. You're not finna start and say, you know what?

Speaker 4 I think I'm going to go to, I'm going to be a professional baseball player. I'm going to pick this up in my 20s.

Speaker 4 You ain't gonna never hit the curve, you ain't gonna never hit the slider, and you're not gonna catch it with the fastball.

Speaker 4 But you can see punches stuff that I wouldn't even think about seeing.

Speaker 4 That joke would have hit me about four or five times, hands back by the side, like

Speaker 4 what happened?

Speaker 4 All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle paid the price, won a slice, got to roll the dice, that's why, all my life, I've been grinding all my life,

Speaker 4 all my life, been grinding all my life,

Speaker 4 sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got to roll the dice, that's why, all my life, I've been grinding all my life

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