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Speaker 4 The 7th Seed Warriors are favored over the Rockets to win the series per DraftKing. The Warriors are minus 190.
The Rockets are plus 155. Are the Warriors a lot to beat the Rockets?

Speaker 4 I'm not sure if they're a lot. Now, we're going off experience, and obviously, you know, they got Houston on that.
Houston got youth on their side, and they got to use it to their advantage, man.

Speaker 4 They got to make them guys work. But, you know, when you got guys like Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, and obviously, you know steph curry

Speaker 4 it's gonna be tough to beat them man they got them rogue them rogue players around them uh playing great basketball so it's gonna be that's gonna be an interesting series a lot of series i'm looking forward to and their rockets and and golden state is gonna be one for the ages

Speaker 4 yeah having but here the thing that concerns me about the rockets who's your go-to guy right

Speaker 4 they haven't been they haven't been in this the warriors have been in these situations steph know what it's like to play championship basketball to get ready to win a title. Draymond has been there.

Speaker 4 He knows what it's like. Jimmy Butler hadn't won, but he's taking the team to the NBA Finals.
He knows what it's like, and they're role players. Now, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 Comingo didn't really play. Moody got the assignment.

Speaker 4 So it's going to be very, very interesting because you played with a team that understands what these moments are about and what they're like versus a team that's extremely athletic.

Speaker 4 I'm

Speaker 4 Smith, and you got Dylan Brooks, and you got Jalen Green, you got Van Pleet, you got Alp Sengoon. He's for real.
Yeah, yeah, Grayvon's gonna have his hands up with it now.

Speaker 4 Hey, them boys playing and them Rockets, they playing hard, man. You know, in the

Speaker 4 Edoka, he's gonna have them ready. Now, they ain't gonna be scared of nothing.

Speaker 4 No, they're gonna come out of the game. You know, I think the fact I

Speaker 4 think the fact that they are young, Joe, is why you can't have them as a law. They play on both ends of the court.

Speaker 4 And I think the pressure for them, especially when you're that young, you're just out there playing basketball. You're just out there playing basketball.

Speaker 4 You're just out there having fun and doing what you need to do. And I think they have the Warriors to win, obviously, not only because of Steph, but because of the experience.

Speaker 4 They've already been there before. But it's going to be a good series.
A very, very good series.

Speaker 4 They got a whole service. It's going to 7-2 now.

Speaker 4 But, Joe,

Speaker 4 they got us whole serve at home.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Telling me about the Rockets.

Speaker 4 The Rockets got a whole serve. They do.
They do. Because that's going to be the confidence booster.
If you can win the first two games at home and then have to travel to Golden State to

Speaker 4 try to get a win. But man, I just like that young Rockets team.
They play hard. They're fearless.
And they know what it's like to play the Warriors. And because they played them pretty well this year.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 4 Hey. Hey, Joe,

Speaker 4 if they come out the gate in general and win the first two games at home, boy, it can get spooky.

Speaker 4 It can get spooky.

Speaker 4 The one thing about the Warriors, the Warriors won't panic though, because they've been here.

Speaker 4 I remember a couple of years ago, they went down to Sacramento and they had to go to Sacramento and win game seven. And Steph Curry had one of the great all-time performances.

Speaker 4 He dropped 50 on them at a game seven.

Speaker 4 So the Warriors are not, look.

Speaker 4 You lose the first two games on the road. All they did was hold serving home.
The series doesn't start until the road team wins a game.

Speaker 4 So all Houston would have done is protect their home. They did not let the Warriors come in and invade their territory.
So we kept them at bay.

Speaker 4 Now, can we make an advancement into their territory by stealing a game at home? Now,

Speaker 4 Rockets are saying all we got to do is just hold servant home. If we win all four at home, we advance.

Speaker 4 The Warriors are saying

Speaker 4 we got to find a way to get one.

Speaker 4 All we got to do is get one at home. Get one at home.

Speaker 4 And we like our team.

Speaker 4 I think that first game for the Warriors will be probably one of the best games for them to get because they young team in Houston, you know, having to understand you're the two seed, you're the one being hunted.

Speaker 4 Like, you got to understand and know how to protect that. And you can't wait to see what the intensity is going to be like before you have to rip it up.

Speaker 4 Like, go to state, they're going to already know.

Speaker 4 So they know. Yeah, the Rockets, they cannot lose on their home floor.
They got to protect, they got to protect the house. And I think it's going to be a hell of a series.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Golden State said we already played a playoff game. We beat Memphis.

Speaker 4 Even though it doesn't go towards anything, but that was a playoff type atmosphere because, hey, the one thing we didn't want to do was fall and now we're out.

Speaker 4 So hey, let's just go ahead and make it light of ourselves. And plus,

Speaker 4 I think they like their chances better against the Rockets than they do. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Hey, listen.
Listen. I think they definitely take the Rockets because,

Speaker 4 you know, they know and understand the moment, and they know that the Rockets will be a little inexperienced, even though they're going to play hard, and they definitely are going to make it competitive.

Speaker 4 But, you know, the Rockets definitely got the, I mean, the Warriors definitely got the team who I think they were seeking out to get in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Mavs beat the Kings 120 to 106. A.D.
and Clay combined for 50 points. As the Mavs blow out the Kings, the game really wasn't that close at any point in time.
It'd be 14 points.

Speaker 4 At one point in time, they had it up as many many as 24 points

Speaker 4 joe i'm going to ask you this did tonight win

Speaker 4 redeem nico harrison does he make does the mavericks fans say you know what 80 ain't that bad after all he gave us what'd he give us 27 9 3 blocks and assists to steal plus 10 and the plus minus 27 9 and 3 We can live with that.

Speaker 4 It's all well in Dallas after they advance to face the memphis grizzlies for a chance to be the eighth seed and face the okc thumb now i i don't think it's all well in dallas it was a good it was a good performance by ad but i kind of feel like the mavericks they're gonna get cheated this year man they they don't have kyrie you know without with an acl injury and you know at some point even maybe next game they they need guys like him who can take over uh create havoc on offense and uh put guys in the right position so i think it's gonna be tough man they still got their work cut out they got to play against against Memphis and Memphis, right?

Speaker 4 Hey, Memphis can't lose that game, man. That's going to be a good one.

Speaker 4 But let me ask you this: Are you concerned about the health of Ja? Now, we saw him hurt that ankle. He stayed out for a significant amount of time.

Speaker 4 He tried to come back in, but you know, you've had that in, probably had that injury where you go to shoot a shot, you land on someone's foot, ankle, you roll your ankle. How sore is he going to be?

Speaker 4 Is there enough time between they played last night you had thursday off and you play tomorrow and you play uh you have tomorrow off and then you'll play he young he's gonna heal up quick you know if that was me

Speaker 4 if it was me and you having a square ankle it's gonna take us about three weeks to a month to get back so he he young he gonna bounce right back he's gonna be ready to go he he understands the moment i think And knowing that it's in Memphis, I'm sure he's not going to want to let them fans down.

Speaker 4 So I expect y'all to put on the show, man.

Speaker 4 Ocho, this game, uh, Dallas Mavericks, they win 120 to 106. Anthony Davis, I mean, they got contributions everywhere.
AD had 27, PJ Washington had 17, Clay had 23. This is why he got

Speaker 4 off the bench. Dante Exum had 11.
Uh, Brandon Williams had 17 in 18 minutes, five of six from the four, three of four from the three-point line, four of four from the free throw line.

Speaker 4 The bench was very, very good for the Dallas Mavericks to overcome. Uh, DeMar DeRosen had 33, Zach Levine had a quiet 20.
They didn't get the kind of production they normally get from the opponents.

Speaker 4 He only had 11, 13, and 5, but he's normally somewhere around 17, 18. Give you that.
And they needed that tonight. But Dallas go on the road to Sacramento and win this game.

Speaker 4 Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Dallas? I mean, this is exactly what you expected them to do. This is exactly what you expected them to do.

Speaker 4 Obviously, the fans have been mad about the trade and AD coming and Luca leaving. Luca coming in.
Time to remind you why I should have stayed.

Speaker 4 But all this is for the Dallas fans and the organization organization for the for the mavericks as well is you put a band-aid on the band-aid on the gas that's all it is this is what you're supposed to do to sacramento so what you're going to see is later on down the line when it comes time for a seven-game series things are going to be a little different you don't have you don't have kyrie he's hurt most of the bulk of everything going to be on 80 to have to what's what's the word i'm looking for be um

Speaker 4 a score a 30 a 32 or 35 to be able to leave that team to another series which luca was able to do with Kyrie. I don't think he's going to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you definitely need, and Joe, you can speak to this. In the playoffs, you need a guy that you can put the ball in his hands and he can go get you a part.

Speaker 4 And it's nice to have that as a guard because you don't have to get him the ball. He can come get the ball, bring it up, and Kyrie can describe it.
Kyrie can get his shot from anywhere.

Speaker 4 He can finish in the paint, given that he's not an above-the-rim player. But his layup package and his ability to handle and create a shot shot for himself or someone else is second to none.

Speaker 4 So to that, what's going on the road now, you look at Memphis. They got Triple J who did not have a great performance the other night.
Job was good. Desmond Bain played unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Pippin Jr. played really well.

Speaker 4 What does Dallas have to do to go in and to create a similar performance to what they had tonight? Aid he's going to have to be dominant. He's going to have to be dominant, man.

Speaker 4 He's going to have to put up big numbers in order for them to win.

Speaker 4 I know they pretty much play by committee by committee you know clay got off to a pretty good start tonight you know he shot the bar really well but they definitely they got guys who can put up numbers now they got guys come off that bench you can definitely chip in and help but i think with their size

Speaker 4 they're gonna give uh they're gonna give miffets some problems well though you know they uh that's that's why ad's able to kind of roam because he got lively and gaffer down there to kind of clog up the pain you know what i mean

Speaker 4 yep and he gets to play when lively's on the the four he always gets to play for the most part he gets to play the four which he loves to play because when you have lively you bring in a daniel gaffer you're right they're a big team you look at pj washington goes about 6'8 lively goes about 6'11 or 7 foot ad goes 6'10 daniel gaffer 6'9 6'10.

Speaker 4 this is a very very big ball club and so the front line and they challenge a lot of shots they had eight blocks tonight ad had three gaffer had two and so you know nothing hey it's simple philosophy to play off nothing cheap.

Speaker 4 Nothing cheap, man.

Speaker 4 Nothing easy. You come to pay, I got to put it down.
I'm sorry. But with Memphis, Memphis got JJ and Vic eating down there.
You know, they're going to cause some havoc as well.

Speaker 4 But I do expect Ja to really put on a pretty good performance because they're going to need him.

Speaker 4 They're going to need his leadership, you know, definitely on the court for them to be able to continue. And whoever wins the game, they got OKC.

Speaker 4 That's your prize, huh?

Speaker 4 You get an OKC in the first round, you're gonna be in for a fight, boy.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 are you surprised that Spencer Dinwiddie, who has been a major contributor, he only got two minutes of mop-up duty tonight? I was surprised they went with Exam as opposed to Spencer Dinwiddie.

Speaker 4 What is it that you think Jake Kid saw that he says, you know what?

Speaker 4 The minutes that we normally give Dinwiddie, we're going to give those minutes to Exhum because he played 19 minutes and he was since he had 11 points, four of four, one of three one of one from the two uh three-point line and two uh uh but both of his free throws had three rebounds had what

Speaker 4 six assists he bring good energy off he bring good energy to the table i think dam woody is more of an offensive threat and xhim yes xhim gonna come in and he's gonna be more of an edge factor he's gonna play hard defensively he's gonna knock down the shots if he open special in that corner so i think he probably just leaned a little more on xm probably because he had a little bit more confidence in the night

Speaker 4 And plus, he's looking to get everybody involved as opposed to Spencer Denwitty looking to get it. He's trying to get it to himself.
He did trying to get it to his bag.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Did we say, I'm playing for a contract, bro?

Speaker 4 Keep it a buck with you. I'm trying to get this contract.

Speaker 4 You're right.

Speaker 4 I think the thing is with Edie.

Speaker 4 Look, he reminded, I think the thing is, when you look at Memphis, when they were at their best, they had,

Speaker 4 what's the guy?

Speaker 4 What's the big guy they had? He just traded into Houston.

Speaker 4 Adams. Stephen Adams.
Yeah, big Stephen Adams. Yeah.
Jaw was tremendous in the pick and roll. He gave the, Adams gave them extra opportunities.
Zach Eady can do that,

Speaker 4 but Zach is going to have to be more, he's going to have to be a little bit more active because I think he's a better offensive weapon. He was player of the year.

Speaker 4 No matter what you think of him, his game, college game compared to the NBA, he was a player of the year he was an all-american and so he has the offensive skills now it's not conduit you know him shooting threes but around the rim i'm not so sure they run a whole lot of plays for him he's not a guy that you run hey you want hey you want 14 points get it off you know you're going to get it off the rim because the thing is we'll have him on the floor though they're going to keep him in picking roles you know what i mean because he's probably going to play pay play back a lot of the times he's not going to be up to the pick and right for for uh for the guards you know, that's definitely essential for them trying to get to the basket and just create opportunities for everybody on the squad.

Speaker 4 That's where Kyrie would be extra beneficial because you play, you put Edie in the pick and roll and you know he doesn't want to hedge and he doesn't have the lateral, he doesn't have the lateral equipment or the

Speaker 4 quickness or to be able to drop back. So Kyrie like, oh yeah, this

Speaker 4 if Shaq would say Barbara could jumpers, floaters, passes, like

Speaker 4 it'll be a pretty sight to see. But, like I said, they got other guys on their team who are capable of having big nights or even winning you a game in the playoffs, and that's what you need.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Nick Marshall did a lot of having the ball tonight. They let Clay bring it up early, but Nick Marshall was really in charge.
I thought Exm coming in gave him a boost of energy, as you mentioned.

Speaker 4 Brandon Williams was sensational.

Speaker 4 He was absolutely sensational. 17 points in 18 minutes.
He got it and got it going early. And a lead that was like 8, 9, all of a sudden became 18, 19, 20.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's his name?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Najee.

Speaker 4 Oh, Najee Marshall. My bad.
Najee Marshall. I thought you was talking about Brandon Williams.
I'm like, I've seen Williams.

Speaker 4 Najee Marshall.

Speaker 4 He did a lot of ball handling, but

Speaker 4 he's not a natural point guard. He's not a natural facilitator.
And I think that gets a lot of teams because, oh, he can handle the ball.

Speaker 4 Just because you can handle the ball doesn't mean you can run an offense. And I think we saw that with the Phoenix Sons because Booker, yeah, Book can handle the ball, but Booker's a dude.

Speaker 4 You go back and look at the Sons and study them. They work best when they had CB3.

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Speaker 4 Stop pretending just because somebody can handle the ball, they can run an offense. Those are two different things.

Speaker 4 Handling the ball, running an offense. It's just like a quarterback.
Oh, Joe, You know, hey, he can throw the ball, but can't he run an offense? Nah.

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Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, if there's been one constant during the entire Luca Dodge trade fiasco, is that Nico Harrison and the Mavs continue to make some worst PR decision imaginable.

Speaker 4 Nico said he has no regret in the Luca trade. When you look at this trade, we targeted AD with our philosophy of defense wins championships.

Speaker 4 We wanted a two-way player that could lead our team, and that was Anthony Davis. Everyone's going to have the criticism.

Speaker 4 And I'm not sure what Mark Cuban said, but that's a better question left for him. But we got what we wanted.
My obligation is to the Dallas Maverick. It's what's best interest of the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 4 And that's what's the most important thing. Some of these decisions are going to be unpopular, maybe to Durrick and maybe to some fans.
But my obligation is to the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 4 Is he trolling at this point?

Speaker 4 No, but he should stop talking about it.

Speaker 4 He's making it worse. I'm not sure what his angle is.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure what it is. For the betterment of the future of the Dallas Mavericks, you want to make the right decisions long term.

Speaker 4 Letting Luca Doncha go to the Lakers is not making the right decisions by the fans or the Dallas Mavericks owners organization.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm not saying that there's nothing wrong with AD, but I mean, look, we talk about longevity and wanting to keep your job based on the decisions that you make for the betterment of the team, it would have been keeping Luca there.

Speaker 4 But that's not his, but at the end of the day, that's not his call, that's ownership's call.

Speaker 4 And the Dumont family said, okay,

Speaker 4 Mark Cuban just tweeted. What did he tweet?

Speaker 4 He called him stupid or something. I guarantee you.
I guarantee you. He said, Dirk

Speaker 4 is the Dallas Mavericks. They're nine forever.
No one should ever forget that. That statue

Speaker 4 will be here forever. Loyalty never fades.
Tomorrow night, 15 guys will put on a Mavericks uniform and they'll do everything they can to win for themselves, each other, and the fans.

Speaker 4 Our squad busted their, you know know what, fight through incredible adversity. They have my respect and support should have everyone's.
I'm a Mavs fan.

Speaker 4 I'll always love and cheer for everyone who puts on our uniform.

Speaker 4 Tomorrow night, and however many games we have left in this season and ever in the future, whether I'm in the stands or in front of the TV or following every play online, my heart and soul is committed to rooting for our Mavs to win.

Speaker 4 That will never change. I know fans are upset, but don't be upset at the players.
Support them. Root for them.
Rally behind them. I don't know what MM.
What is that?

Speaker 4 Okay. Well, what Ash said.

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Speaker 4 Hashtag MavsFan for life. Man,

Speaker 4 that was so PC.

Speaker 4 I thought he gave some, you know, truth based on the decisions that was made.

Speaker 4 He called, he caught, he's upset because Nico called out Dirk. Maybe Dirk is upset.
Okay. Maybe the fans are upset.
And he's looking at it like, bro, if you're part of the, you know,

Speaker 4 Dirk a just, it's kind of like, oh, Joe, it's kind of like if you were to call out somebody from Cincinnati,

Speaker 4 or when I call out somebody from the Broncos or the Ravens, it's a little different. We played there.

Speaker 4 People still remember, you know, your number 85 is up. My number 84 is up.

Speaker 4 People remember what I did in Baltimore. So it's a little different when it comes from you.
And somebody else criticizing a guy that played here.

Speaker 4 Okay. Like you said, Dirk is a legend.

Speaker 4 Dirk played 20 seasons? 20 seasons or 21?

Speaker 4 20 seasons. Same uniform, never left.
Have an opportunity to land, get bigger paydays. He said, nah, this is my home.
Yeah. And so,

Speaker 4 Nico, my my recommendation

Speaker 4 21

Speaker 4 my my my yes oh joe just let it go fans are going to be upset fans are going to be upset yeah and especially because it's still so fresh yeah time

Speaker 4 let time let time pass and uh you know you'll be okay but don't don't mention anymore you're not the i you can't you're not going to make these people these fans forget and no matter how much you say you wanted anthony davis you targeted Anthony Davis, and we want to be a two-way team.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Because defense win championships, fans ain't really trying to hear that.
You ain't trying to hear that, man.

Speaker 4 You gave a guy away. Well, you traded a guy that was there because he came here at 18.

Speaker 4 Dallas was all he knew.

Speaker 4 Those fans, Luca is all they knew. And now they don't have him anymore.
And

Speaker 4 we know what he does on the court. I don't care nothing about all that other stuff.

Speaker 4 And you say at some point the fans will forget, they will never forget because there's a type of player that the Lakers got. They understand.

Speaker 4 Luca will always remind them, Dallas, Nico Collins, and the owners on what they did based on his play in L.A.

Speaker 4 And they're going to always resent that because he's going to be the superstar that they had. He's going to always remind them, this is what you let go.

Speaker 4 Every single year.

Speaker 4 In every game that he had, like he had that game when he went back, he dropped 45.

Speaker 4 A fool.

Speaker 4 That should have been, that she should have been dropping that 45 on the Lakers for us.

Speaker 4 You saw the other night, he had 39 against the Houston. I think the Rockets said he didn't play the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 So when you see him go off for those type performances, you're like, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 And A.D., look, A.D. is a phenomenal player.
A.D. is an all-75 player.
He's been an all-NBA selection. He's been an all-star.
He's been an all-star game MBA. He's won a title.
He's not Fettuccine,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 you're not Luca.

Speaker 4 Not.

Speaker 4 Phoenix Sun fired Budenholder.

Speaker 4 The Suns became the third team in the NBA history to start the season 8-1 or better and miss the playoffs. They joined the 1970 Detroit Pistons and the 2001-02 Milwaukee Bucks.

Speaker 4 KD is looking to leave the Suns. Ojo, who should be held accountable for the Suns' failures?

Speaker 4 You look at before KD got there. Were the Suns playing well? Were they failing before KD got there?

Speaker 4 Proudly got there what they was in the NBA, then the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 NBA Finals when?

Speaker 4 They lost to 21.

Speaker 4 They lost to the Bucs

Speaker 4 and in the NBA Finals, and then they lost in the what?

Speaker 4 They beat the Clippers one year. Well, that was the year they went to the finals.

Speaker 4 The next year they beat the Lakers. And then they lose to the Suns.
I mean, the Nuggets?

Speaker 4 They were a bit level about Cleek, but they...

Speaker 4 They lost the Luca. The Dallas?

Speaker 4 They were the number one seed that ended up losing to Luca.

Speaker 4 You know what? When it comes down to it, I'm assuming you can. Some of the blame does go on the players.
Some of the blame can go on Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure how much of it you can put on one individual player when collectively obviously there is a group of five that have to play and have to jail together you think obviously when you have these super teams where braggy bill and devin booker and kevin durant coming together you expect the results obviously show in the court obviously the match racing it didn't work the relationship between him and booten how do you say the coach's name Bootenhoser.

Speaker 4 Bootenhoser. Obviously things didn't work, especially the way it started out.
It started out really good, obviously 8-1, but, you know, not making the playoffs or playing for that matter.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's horrible. Everybody has to be held accountable.
Obviously, most of the most of the

Speaker 4 criticism and the critique will go to the superstar players, especially one of the greatest scorers of all time. So, I guess

Speaker 4 he can take that criticism. Obviously, them not making the playoffs,

Speaker 4 he would be a part of the problem if he wasn't part of the goddamn solution, for that matter. I mean, this is the fourth coach in four years.
They fired Marty Williams, they fired

Speaker 4 the Lakers coach. Vogle.
Who's the Vogue?

Speaker 4 Vogle.

Speaker 4 They fired Bud. They could fire Bud.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 They're about to be on their fourth coaches. Now, Bud got three more years at 10 million.
Vogo had several years at like 8 million.

Speaker 4 And I know my issue.

Speaker 4 has a

Speaker 4 has tons of money,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 you got to stay the course a little longer than a year. Yeah, but that's the problem.
When it comes to people,

Speaker 4 when it comes to owners, obviously, in life, in life, the way they fix things, most of the time, when you see a pattern like this, where you keep firing coach after coach after coach after coach, it's sometimes you just throw money at it and you think it fixed the problem.

Speaker 4 That's how it works in the business world.

Speaker 4 When it comes to the sports world, you throw your money at it and then you allow it time to manifest you let it marinate for a little bit until it can jail until it all works out

Speaker 4 i believe all i think the only player that's going to be there is devin booker yeah he's the player that started there i think kd is going to be gone um

Speaker 4 um bradley bill is going to be gone big now bradley bill is a little bit more tougher than kd for the simple fact bradley bill has no trade clause so he has to he has to sign off on where you're going to send it yeah kd you know they're going to be be a lot of teams, but you got to replace what you gave up.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You gave up a bunch of first-round dicks and players.

Speaker 4 You're saying replace.

Speaker 4 You will never get the value of what you got for KD, but you can get something.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, you got to get you. Well, you got to refill the coffers up.
You got to get draft capital back.

Speaker 4 It's tough, man. It's tough

Speaker 4 because KD played for now. He came half the year with Monty.
They fired Monty after the season, hired Vogle, fired Bogle, hired Buddenhoser, fired him.

Speaker 4 Now they're about to be on their fourth coach, but KD won't be there up under him. I think Book stays.
I think Book is the only piece that stays. They're going to try to move.
But that's what happens.

Speaker 4 People just think it's more to building a team than putting three guys that can put the ball in the basket. And that's what everybody thinks.
Just, oh, oh, KD, oh, book, man. KD going to eat 27.

Speaker 4 Book going to give you 27. Bradley Bill gonna give you 27.
Okay, that's fine, well, and good. Until they don't do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because they don't fit. The pieces don't fit, oh, y'all.
And, you know, when you think about it, obviously,

Speaker 4 you say those names, you say those names, and understanding what they can do, you know, being able to score at all three levels, put the ball on the floor, catch and shoot, pop and shoot, whatever it may be.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking, well, hell. Man, they finna be, boy, they gonna be animals.

Speaker 4 If you put Chase, Jefferson, and Tyreek all on the same team, you got one ball.

Speaker 4 Hey, one ball. Hey, listen, just the thought of that.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Just the thought of that.

Speaker 4 Strike up the band.

Speaker 4 And see, you look at the Patriots, the pieces always fit.

Speaker 4 One guy got a lot of,

Speaker 4 mostly the catches, and then everybody fit in after that.

Speaker 4 Look, you get KD, who's KD. He's an MVP, finals MVP, four-time scoring chain.

Speaker 4 Okay, he really doesn't need the ball.

Speaker 4 Bradley, Bill, and Booker, they need the ball.

Speaker 4 But what they needed, see, they put, they shifted Book to the point. He can play it, but Book's a two.
He don't need to be initiated in the offense. If you look at Book, he had his best years.

Speaker 4 He had CP3. CP3 was a facilitator.
CP3 knew how to get everybody.

Speaker 4 where they wanted the ball, where they needed the ball to be the most impacted.

Speaker 4 But when you have all this, you got $150 million in payroll with three guys, oh Joe, something got to go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to, you got, hey, you got this big fancy house. You buy a big fancy house and you on a budget.
Well, guess what? Be like O'Shana Sharp. Ain't had nothing but a TV and then the bed

Speaker 4 in the bedroom. Come to the house.
Hey,

Speaker 4 you'll be sitting on the floor like Indian style. That's all I got for you.

Speaker 4 That's what I had. That's all I had.
I overextended myself. I got a house that was outside of my budget.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 it wasn't no sense in me going more over budget and putting furniture, a whole bunch of furniture in there. I got a bed and I got a TV.
That's it.

Speaker 4 And let me tell you how long ago this been, Ocho. I know you didn't know this, but Mr.
Bishi used to make TVs. I remember that.
I had a Mr. Bishi.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Sure, did.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Mr. Bishi.

Speaker 4 Yep. I ain't heard that in a long time either.

Speaker 4 It was a tube. It was a tube TV.
You know, I didn't have the money to put no. But you know, back then, yeah.
But the knob. TVs that went on the wall with $10,015, $20,000.

Speaker 4 I said, oh, no.

Speaker 4 Put this thing up on a little, put this thing up on a chair. I can see.
Because you know, we've grown up, we put it on a chair, phone, but you had a little TV.

Speaker 4 We put it or you had the big phone model that would have cost a phone model. Yeah, we put our TVs.
Obviously, at grandma's place, we had the crates.

Speaker 4 Remember the crate, the crates that the milk crates? Yeah, yeah, milk crate. Yeah, air crate.
Milk crates. We put out, we put our right on the crate.
Oh, you have a floor model TV, oh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Floor model.

Speaker 4 Mike showed a picture. Yeah, but they have no sound.
Right. The little one had the sound.
See how we do that, Ocho? See how we did that right there? Get us on one more floor model TV.

Speaker 4 Y'all remember Sony, Sylvania, Zenith?

Speaker 4 Hey, my grandma had the big Zenith in our room. RCA.
Remember with the RCA with the megaphone with the dog? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, that's Thobeck. Hold on.
I bet you don't remember the satellites, though. The big satellites

Speaker 4 in yards, yes, yes, that my granddaddy had with the big old satellite, yes, yes. I remember that like that's though.

Speaker 4 But it is because every, I mean, if you go back and look at the beginning of the year, the uh, the Suns were 21 odds to win the NBA title, they had better odds than everybody, damn near everybody, except probably uh, Boston.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 wow, that's crazy, man.

Speaker 4 It's just,

Speaker 4 it's a bad, it's a, it's, I don't know, but where does, where does KD go? Miami. Because you know, I'm always, you know, I'm always say Miami.
And now, obviously, they're going to have to give.

Speaker 4 What are y'all going to give up to get it? I don't know. That's not my, that's up to Pat Riley and Mickey Errison.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure what that looks like, but as long as we keep bam, we're going to be all right. I think.
And finding some other pieces that we can get from somewhere else,

Speaker 4 we got to have something. But I'm just, I think it would be great.
It would be a great place. I think KD might have a house down here.
I'm not sure. I've seen him down here numerous times.

Speaker 4 Man, you got that kind of money. You got a house everywhere.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but

Speaker 4 KD do Credie do it quite well for himself. Yeah, yeah.
I just, I just, listen, I, we need a star. We need to do what the Lakers do.
Always find a way to pull one out our.

Speaker 4 I was getting ready to curse. I'm not going to curse.
Pull one out of our hat. We need to do that.
Pat Riley was to do that.

Speaker 4 Just to get, just, have you seen the tennis at the games, It's not, it's not what it, it's not what it should be, especially for the game.

Speaker 4 First of all, they don't come to, they don't come till late anyway. Yeah, y'all don't be there.
I look, I done been to Miami Heat game. I went for the championship game

Speaker 4 and at the start of the game, I'm like, well, damn. Yeah.
Do y'all really know this is the NBA finals? Yeah, you're right. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 4 And remember, they was leaving in that game six before Ray hit the shot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and they tried to come running back in. Try to come back in.
Nah.

Speaker 4 No, that ain't gonna happen. I'm trying to say,

Speaker 4 first of all, there are only a handful of teams that have the draft capital that they're gonna need to get KD.

Speaker 4 And the question is: are they willing to break it up? What team? OKC has the capital. Who?

Speaker 4 OKC Thunder. They got like 13 first-round.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine? Can you imagine SGA and Kevin Durant?

Speaker 4 Yeah, we said the same thing about Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. There you go.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we said that.

Speaker 4 We said the same thing about James Harden and Joel and B.

Speaker 4 Can you imagine? Now, James Harden has found the fountain of youth. He played.
He looked like the James Harden of Old. Yes.

Speaker 4 Daddy Doug.

Speaker 4 Kawhi's got those knees healthy. He looks phenomenal.

Speaker 4 I don't. KD doesn't strike me as a guy

Speaker 4 that lives with regret or looks back on, but probably maybe a better move would probably have been going to the Knicks.

Speaker 4 Hey, like you should have done the first time instead of instead of going to Brooklyn. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Maybe going to the Knicks from the jump. Oh, I don't know.
It's too late.

Speaker 4 Too late now. They might, right.
They might be an option. I don't know.
I'm just saying, instead of going to Brooklyn,

Speaker 4 maybe

Speaker 4 go to the Knicks. Maybe things would have been different.
Different. We'll never know.
Yeah. We'll never know.
We just know this has gone horribly wrong.

Speaker 4 This is, there's no way around it.

Speaker 4 Look, we don't have to blame anybody, but we can say this unequivocally: this was terrible. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 It was.

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Speaker 4 The Warriors beat the Grizzlies 121-116. Jimmy Butler, 38 points.
Steph Curry, 37 points. And they held off a very valued and game Memphis Grizzly team by the score of 121 to 126.

Speaker 4 This game was really, really close. So now the Warriors advance.
They're the seventh seed, and they take on the Rockets.

Speaker 4 That game probably will start Sunday. Q, watching this game, what did you like about what you saw from the Warriors? Damn that, man.
I heard that Raider shot.

Speaker 4 I'm the president of the Raider Nation. Always remember that.
Okay. All right.
Now, now getting to this gang, we knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 4 It was close, but we know, you know, Steph is, you know, the man and

Speaker 4 proved it once again, hitting big shots, big moments,

Speaker 4 Warriors advance.

Speaker 4 You know, we knew what was going to happen.

Speaker 4 I thought the game would have been a lot. You know what? It'd have been interesting to see Cube or Ocho had John not tweaked that angle.
You know, he goes up for the shot.

Speaker 4 He comes down on the guy's ankle and he came back in the game late, but he wasn't Jaw.

Speaker 4 Desmond Bain was unbelievable. He kept him close, big threes, stealing the ball, doing a lot of good things.

Speaker 4 Triple J played an outstanding game, but I just thought if Jaw had stayed in there, it would have been interesting to see. We never know.
Who knows?

Speaker 4 Maybe Steph goes crazy and he goes instead of 37, 38, he goes for 50.

Speaker 4 But it was a good game. It's what we expected to be.
This is the first time the Warriors have actually got out of the play-in. There had been 0-3.
So now they're 1-4

Speaker 4 in in the play-in tournament. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw? Listen, I enjoyed the game to its fullest.

Speaker 4 I probably thought that the Warriors were going to come out and be victorious in the win. Obviously,

Speaker 4 playoff Jimmy,

Speaker 4 as he's known to be called, showed up. Play-in, Jimmy.

Speaker 4 Okay, you're right. Play-in, Jimmy.
Listen, he had 21 and a half. He came up and he showed out.
Steph Curry did what he did, ending the game with 37.

Speaker 4 But I think the game might have been different, even though it was close.

Speaker 4 But if we got a jaw that wasn't injured and didn't mess up his ankle towards the end of the the game, Deathman Bain did what he did to keep him close.

Speaker 4 But obviously Steph Curry coming in clutch towards the end of the game, and it is what it is.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, look, this is the Warriors time of year.
We know what they're capable of doing.

Speaker 4 It's amazing to me that they haven't gotten out of the play-in queue, considering all that championship game pedigree. All the time they've been in NBA finals.

Speaker 4 They've been in Western Conference finals. They've had tough fall ball games, but for whatever reason, it's hard for them to get out of the play-in.

Speaker 4 If I'm not mistaken, I think they lost to the Lakers, a couple of lost to the Lakers, lost to the Grizz, but they haven't been what we thought they would be, especially in the play-in.

Speaker 4 So now they get an opportunity to advance. They're the number seven seed to take on the Houston Rockets, the second-best record in the Western Conference.

Speaker 4 But this is a young team that's not really battle-tested, Cube. How do you see this matchup shaping out between the Rockets and the Warriors?

Speaker 4 Well, you know, the Warriors got that pedigree. They know what it takes.
You know, the Rockets are

Speaker 4 scrappy. You know, they defense, they all over the court.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 They running, they gunning, junking, they shooting.

Speaker 4 They kind of doing it all.

Speaker 4 But, you know,

Speaker 4 they're all different animals. You know, you're playing the same team over and over again.

Speaker 4 They get a chance to lock in on you. You get a chance to lock in on them.
And, you know,

Speaker 4 in basketball, by the third game, you know all the moves they got. They know all the moves you got.
And it's just

Speaker 4 a will to win. And so the Warriors are battle tested.
They got that will to win.

Speaker 4 Even though I like the Rockets Young scrap of team, I just think the Warriors got everything it takes. with Draymond and Jimmy as hungry as ever.

Speaker 4 So I expect the Warriors to come out of that.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 you mentioned you're the

Speaker 4 god. What did you say, the godfather? The president of the Raider Nation, man.

Speaker 4 President of the Raider Nation. So

Speaker 4 what are you with the Lakers? Are you the godfather of the Lakers? What are you for the Lakers? Oh, man. You know, the Lakers,

Speaker 4 I mean, I hadn't put a name on it. You know, it's something greater than love with the Lakers.

Speaker 4 You're the mayor of Lakerville.

Speaker 4 But I've been a big fan, man, since I was knee-high to a horse fly. And so it's just really all about seeing them jail.
You know, do they have enough time to jail

Speaker 4 to go all the way?

Speaker 4 We'll see. You know, they got

Speaker 4 a nice squad. You know,

Speaker 4 I like the size of all the role players.

Speaker 4 You know, they all damn near the same size with the same athletic ability.

Speaker 4 And so it's pretty cool to see them, you know, teamed up with

Speaker 4 lebron uh luca and um

Speaker 4 ar 15

Speaker 4 kiloby let me ask you this where were you when you heard the news the lakers were trading anthony davis for luka donchich

Speaker 4 and did you believe it when you heard it uh i i didn't believe it you know i was uh i was at the house and um

Speaker 4 And, you know, I was, you know, I know my son, he had a, you know, a podcast he had to do. And

Speaker 4 he was just like freaking out on the podcast,

Speaker 4 reading the news at the same time.

Speaker 4 And so, you know, it was hard to believe that was true.

Speaker 4 But the Lakers always pull the rabbits out they had, you know, I'm like, I felt the same way when they got shot.

Speaker 4 You know, I felt the same way when they got.

Speaker 4 LeBron,

Speaker 4 you know, it was like, man, how do the Lakers pull this off? off? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Great front office. You know, I never count them out.
No matter, you know, how,

Speaker 4 you know, how the team look from year to year. You know, I never count that front office out.
Even bringing AD in was amazing to me. Gave up a lot to get him, but it worked out.

Speaker 4 You got a championship out of the deal. Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 4 Cub, you're the co-founder of the big three. Last year was your most viewed season.
How do you take it to the next level?

Speaker 4 And it's being reported that Dwight Howard said, my last year playing professional basketball, I'm going to play it in the big three.

Speaker 4 There we go. You know, star power.
You know, the same thing, you know, that you guys got here, star power. So that's what we bring in the league.
That's what people want to see.

Speaker 4 But also the style of play. You know, I think people love the big three because, you know, there's still a place for the big man.

Speaker 4 You know, we still defense. You know, we let them trash talk.
We let players be themselves, you know, you know,

Speaker 4 not penalize personality. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 And so I think people, you know, love that. Fans want that.

Speaker 4 That's what's missing in some ways in the other professional league. And so for him to come and

Speaker 4 do his, you know, last, you know, go around the country in the big three was going to be a fun summer. But, you know, we also got other players that's great too.
So, you know, now we're in cities.

Speaker 4 Now, you know, we got a team in L.A.,

Speaker 4 a team in Dallas, a team in Houston, Chicago,

Speaker 4 Detroit, Boston, and

Speaker 4 the DMV and Miami. So it's going to be interesting to unlock those fan bases and

Speaker 4 start to grow the big three

Speaker 4 from that model.

Speaker 4 What made you decide to come up with the big three? You sitting around, I mean, look, you're busy. You, you know, you're in Hollywood, you're back to doing music.

Speaker 4 And I've seen, I think now, Cube, you back more into music now than you've ever been. Maybe you've taken a break from the acting thing, from writing.
I know you got it.

Speaker 4 We're going to give this a little later, but the Friday, the last

Speaker 4 installment of Friday. Oh, yeah.
Probably sitting down writing that, you, DJ, DJ Pooh. But in this situation, what made you decide to come up with the big three?

Speaker 4 I'm a fan. And,

Speaker 4 you know, after the finals,

Speaker 4 the NBA finals, man, I would hibernate until football season started.

Speaker 4 I mean, seriously,

Speaker 4 for people who love basketball and love football,

Speaker 4 those dog days of summer just got, you know, it was just brutal.

Speaker 4 And so I knew it was a lot of fans out there like me

Speaker 4 who wanted something, a real season. Could we fit a real season into that window between the NBA Finals and the start of the regular season in football? And so,

Speaker 4 you know, there was a great window. And three on three was sitting there kind of dormant.
You know, it's kind of the little cousin of five on five. And so

Speaker 4 I said, you know, why haven't it been professionalized? And there was no good reasons. I looked at what FIBA was doing and I said, hey, we could do better than that to professionalize the sport.

Speaker 4 and we came up with uh great wrinkles uh like the four point circles and uh brain of fire and uh you know first of 50 win no no game clock but the shot clock uh so the games are fast they fun uh and it's what basketball should be and and

Speaker 4 And so, you know, we put all the great ingredients into it, and it was a great idea.

Speaker 4 And we had the connections and the people to uh make it come true uh and hall of famers had blessed us george girvin dr j clyde drexler uh rick berry uh you know these guys bless the league and say there's something they want to be a part of and uh

Speaker 4 and so i knew if the hall of famers was into it I was on to something

Speaker 4 because they wouldn't get behind something that wasn't pure.

Speaker 4 And so,

Speaker 4 you know, that's, that's, that's the, the way it started.

Speaker 4 And it really happened after I seen Kobe's last game.

Speaker 4 I was, I was kind of upset that I couldn't see him play no more.

Speaker 4 And I said, man,

Speaker 4 why can't he play? And then I just was like, well, maybe it's just the 82 games.

Speaker 4 Because if you can score 60 points in a damn game, you can play. I don't give a damn, you know,

Speaker 4 how old old you are. You know what I'm saying? You can play.
So

Speaker 4 then I said, okay, well, then,

Speaker 4 you know, what if it was half court? What if it was, you know, 10 weeks, you know, it was first to 50 win and it was kind of a sprint and not, you know, such a long marathon or a long grind.

Speaker 4 And you get a week to recover. You know, I just tried to put all the good ingredients in to make sure players were that, was at their best.

Speaker 4 We kind of looked at the NFL model,

Speaker 4 you know, an important game once a week. And, you know, you use the week to get your body right.
And you come out and you give 1,000%.

Speaker 4 Junker becomes the third player to average a triple-double during the season. He joins his teammate, Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robinson.

Speaker 4 Oscar Robinson and Russ are the only ones to average a 30-point triple-double. Jokic is finished with 0.2 points short of that.

Speaker 4 He averaged 29.8 points per game 12.8 rebounds per game 10.3 assists per game and average what 1.2 steal 1.8 steals per game which was tied for second uh dyson daniels led the league with 3.0 assists per game jokic had more triple doubles this season 34 than any three players in the league combined no other players else uh entered uh friday with more than 10 this season i think lebron had exactly 10 correct

Speaker 4 So that just goes to show you just how dominant Yoke was.

Speaker 4 Very, very. Hey, I got a question.

Speaker 4 As dominant as he is, right?

Speaker 4 Being that his game isn't based on explosion and being quick and playing above the rim, how long can he keep this up? As long as he wants to.

Speaker 4 It's been reported he's about to sign a three-year, $212 million extension in the offseason, which is the Super Max, which is the most a guy can sign for, which is that $70 million per year extension, which Lucas was going to be entitled to this offseason.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 it's not a lot of pounding show, it's not a lot of up and down.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Another eight years.

Speaker 4 Consistency, consistently doing this.

Speaker 4 He got this. As long as his mind stays sharp.

Speaker 4 But you got to realize those type players are not like American players.

Speaker 4 right they it's not the end-all be-all to them you hear them talking he wants to get back to his horses he wants to get back to his native land he wants to be with his family that's that's what he wants to do i'm not saying he doesn't take the game serious he takes the game you don't become this good i don't care how talented you are Yeah, be this dominant without taking the game serious, without putting the work in.

Speaker 4 And that was the thing. I mean, people talk about Luca.
Luca put the work in. I think that the thing is with Luca is that you look at his body.
He's never going to have a body like LeBron James.

Speaker 4 He's never going to have a body like Dwight Howard. Neither is Jokic.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's not how that's not their makeup. That's not their genetic makeup, OJo.
That's not how they're going to be built.

Speaker 4 European players. Well, you know, European players you see built like that got caps on their shoulders, abbed up.

Speaker 4 Right. You're right.
They got quad, half-strained definition.

Speaker 4 That ain't what they are.

Speaker 4 Can you put the ball in the basket?

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 He had a phenomenal season, but

Speaker 4 Shay should win the MVP. He's earned that.
He's been, I mean, all those consecutive 20-point games, all those,

Speaker 4 he led the league in 50-point games, led the league in 40-point games, 30-point games, 20-point games. He's been sensational.

Speaker 4 And they have the best record in the NBA.

Speaker 4 Oh, he got one other.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Giannis has 11.

Speaker 4 LeBron has 10. So LeBron finished second.

Speaker 4 Third with triple doubles. But Jokic was far, far, far, far, far, far ahead.
Ahead of everybody with those triple doubles.

Speaker 4 But it's going to be a very interesting matchup because there's a big body that can bang with him. But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 Lubach's going to have to be extremely careful because he can get him in foul trouble because Jokic had all those moves, those ups and unders and loop-dups to do.

Speaker 4 so it's gonna be very very interesting to see how this thing plays out

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