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The first game, I mean, the game that just ended, Mavs beat the Kings 120-106. AD and Klay combined for 50 points.
As the Mavs blow out the Kings, the game really wasn't that close at any

point in time. It'd be 14 points

at one point in time. They had it up as many as

24 points.

Joe, I'm going to ask you

this. Did tonight

win

redeem Nico Harrison? Does he

make, does the Mavericks fans say,

you know what? AD ain't that

bad after all. He gave us, what did he give us? 27, 9, 3 blocks of assists to steal plus 10 and a plus minus 27, 9 and 3 we can live with that it's all well in Dallas after they advance to face the Memphis Grizzlies for a chance to be the 8th seed and face the OKC Thunder I don't think it's all well in Dallas.
It was a good performance by AD. But I kind of feel like the Mavericks, they're going to get cheated this year, man.
They don't have Kyrie, you know, without an ACL injury. And you know at some point, even maybe next game, they need guys like him who can take over, create havoc on offense, and put guys in the right position.
So I think it's going to be tough, man. They still got their work cut out.
They got to play against Memphis in Memphis, right? Yep. Memphis can't lose that game, man.
That's going to be a good one. But let me ask you this.
Are you concerned about the health of Ja? Now, we saw him hurt that ankle. He stayed out for a significant amount of time.
He tried to come back in, but you know you've probably had that injury where you go to shoot a shot, you land on someone's foot, ankle, you roll your ankle. How sore is he going to be? Is there enough time between they played last night, you had Thursday off, and you have tomorrow off, and then you'll play on Friday.
Yeah, he young. He gonna heal up quick.
You know, if that was me and you having a spray, it's gonna take us about three weeks to a month. He gonna bounce right back.
He gonna be ready to go. He understands the moment, I think.
And knowing that it's in Memphis, I'm sure he's not gonna let them fans down. So I expect John to put on a show, man.
Ocho, this game, Dallas Mavericks, they win 120-106. Anthony Davis, I mean, they got contributions everywhere.
AD had 27. PJ Washington had 17.
Klay had 23. This is why they got Klay.
Off the bench, Dante Exum had 11. Brandon Williams had 17 in 18 minutes, five or six from the four, three or four from the three-point line, four and four from the free throw line.
The bench was very, very good for the Dallas Mavericks to overcome. DeMar DeRozan had 33.
Zach Levine had a quiet 20. They didn't get the kind of production they normally get from Simona's.
He only had 11, 13, and 5, but he's normally somewhere around 17, 18. Give you that, and they needed that tonight.
But Dallas go on the road to Sacramento and win this game. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Dallas? I mean, this is exactly what you expected them to do.
This is exactly what you expected them to do. Obviously, the fans have been mad about the trade and AD coming and Luka leaving.
Luka coming in, trying to remind you why I should have stayed. But all this is for the Dallas fans and the organization, for the Mavericks as well, is you put a Band-Aid on the gash.
That's all it is. This is what you're supposed to do to Sacramento.
So what you're going to see is later on down the line, when it comes time for a seven-game series, things are going to be a little different. You don't have Kyrie.
He's hurt. Most of the bulk of everything is going to be on 80.
They have to, what's the word I'm looking for? Be a score, a 30, a 32, a 35, to be able to lead that team to another series, which Luke was able to do with Kyrie. I don't think he's going to be able to do it.
Yeah, you definitely need, and Joe, you can speak to this, in the playoffs, you need a guy that you can put the ball in his hands and he can go get you a bucket. And it's nice to have that as a guard because you don't have to get him the ball.
He can come get the ball, bring it up, and Kyrie can distribute. Kyrie can get his shot from anywhere.
He can finish in the paint, given that he's not an above-the-rim player.

But his layup package and his ability to handle and create a shot for himself

or someone else is second to none.

And so to that, going on the road now, you look at Memphis.

They got Triple J, who did not have a great performance the other night.

Job was good.

Desmond Bain played unbelievable.

Pippen Jr. played really well.

What does Dallas have to do

to go in and to create

a similar performance

to what they had tonight, Joe?

Hey, he's going to have to be dominant.

He's going to have to be dominant, man.

He's going to have to put up big numbers

in order for them to win.

I know they pretty much played

by committee.

You know, Clay got off

to a pretty good start tonight. You know, he tried to borrow really well.
But they definitely, they got guys who can put up numbers now. They got guys coming off their bench who can definitely chip in and help.
But I think with their size, they're going to give Miffle some problems as well, though. You know, that's why AD is able to kind of roam because he got Lively and Gafford down there to kind of clog up the paint.

You know what I mean?

Yep.

And he gets to play when Lively's on the floor.

He always gets to play.

For the most part, he gets to play the floor, which he loves to play.

Because when you have Lively, you bring in a Daniel Gafford.

You're right.

They're a big team.

You look at P.J. Washington.

Goals about 6'8".

Lively goes about 6'11", or 7'0".

AD goes 6'10".

Daniel Gafford, 6'9", 6'10".

This is a very, very big ball club.

And so the front line, and they challenge a lot of shots.

They had eight blocks tonight.

AD had three.

Gafford had two.

And so you know nothing.

Hey, it's simple philosophy to play off.

Nothing cheap.

Nothing cheap.

Nothing easy.

You come in the play, I got to put you down.

I'm sorry.

But when Memphis got JJ and Big Eden down there. You know, they're gonna cause some havoc as well.
Right. I do expect Ja to really put on a pretty good performance because they're gonna need him, they're gonna need his leadership you know, definitely on the court for them to be able to continue.
And whoever wins the game, they got OKC. That's your prize, huh? You got OKC in the first round, you're going to be in for a fight.
What? Yeah. Are you surprised that Spencer Dinwiddie, who's been a major contributor, he only got two minutes of mop-up duty tonight.
I was surprised they went with Exum as opposed to Spencer Dinwiddie. What is it that you think J.K.
saw that he says, you know what, the minutes that we normally give Dinwiddie, we're going to give those minutes to Exum because he played 19 minutes and he had 11 points, 4-4, 1-1 from the three-point line and two, both of his free throws had three rebounds. Had what? Six assists, a steal.
He brings good energy. He brings good energy to the table.
I think Dan Whitty is more of an offensive threat. Yes.
And Exum, Exum going to come in and he's going to be more of an X factor. He's going to play hard defensively.
He's going to knock down the shots if he opens especially in that corner. So I think he probably just leaned a little more on Exmo

probably because he had a little bit more confidence in him than that.

And plus, he's looking

to get everybody involved as opposed

to Spencer Dinwiddie looking to get his shot up.

Yeah, Dinwiddie trying to get

into his bag.

Yeah.

I'm playing for a contract, bro.

Keeping a buck with you. I'm trying to get this contract.
You're right. I think the thing is with Edie, look, he reminds me.
I think the thing is when you look at Memphis, when they were at their best, they had, what's the guy? What's the big guy they had? He just traded him to Houston. The big guy.
Steven Adams. Yeah, big Steven Adams.
Yeah. Jaw was tremendous in the pick and roll.
He gave the, Adams gave them extra opportunities. Zach Edy can do that, but Zach is going to have to be, he's going to have to be a little bit more active because I think he's a better offensive weapon.
He was player of the year. No matter what you think of him, his game, college game compared to the NBA, he was a player of the year.
He was an All-American. And so he has the offensive skills.
Now, it's not him shooting threes, but around the rim, I'm not so sure they run a whole lot of plays for him. He's not a guy that you run, hey, you want 14 points? Get it off the rim.
There you go.

You got to get it off the rim. The thing

is, we're having him on the floor. They're going to keep

him in pick and rolls. You know what I mean?

Because he's probably going to play

back a lot of the times. He's not going to be up

to the pick.

For the

guards, that's definitely essential

for them trying to get to the basket and just

create opportunities for everybody on the squad. That's where Kyrie would be extra beneficial because you play, you put Edie in the pick and roll and you know he doesn't want to hedge and he doesn't have the lateral quickness or the quickness or to be able to drop back.
So Kyrie like, oh yeah, this is, ooh, man, as Shaq would say, barbecue chicken. And barbecue junkers, floaters, passes, like, it'll be a pretty sad to see.
But like I said, they got other guys on their team who are capable of having big nights or even winning you a game in the playoffs, and that's what you need. Yeah.
Nick Marshall did a lot of having the ball tonight. They let Clay bring it up early, but Nick Marshall was really in charge.

I thought Exum coming in gave him a boost of energy, as you mentioned.

Brandon Williams was sensational.

He was absolutely sensational.

17 points in 18 minutes.

He got it and got it going early.

And a lead that was like 8-9 all of a sudden became 18-19-20.

Yeah. What's his name? No.
Najee. Oh, Najee Marshall.
My bad, Najee Marshall. I thought you was talking about Brandon Williams.
I'm like, I'm seeing Williams. Yeah.
Najee Marshall. He did a lot of ball handling, but he's not a natural point guard.
He's not a natural facilitator. And I think that gets a lot of teams because, oh, he can handle the ball.
Just because you can handle the ball doesn't mean you can run an offense. And I think we saw that with the Phoenix Suns because Booker, yeah, Book can handle the ball, but Booker's a two.
You go back and look at the Suns and study them, they work best when? When they had CP3. Yep.
Can get everybody. Hey, Katie, you can get that shot right there.
Hey, you can get this right here. Yeah.
Stop pretending just because somebody can handle the ball, they can run an offense. Those are two different things.
Handling the ball, running an offense. It's just like a quarterback.
Hey, he can throw the ball, but Katie runs an offense. Nah.
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Wash your hands? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad. The earlier The earlier game, we saw the Miami Heat go on the road and just do a demolition job.
Yeah. The Bulls, look, the Bulls have really been playing well as of late.
You look at Kobe White, you look at Josh Giddey, Brazelas, they got Vucevic. They got a back.
Hurdle can knock down the threes, but Tyler Hero was in his bag early, and they really didn't have an answer for him. You look at him, he was 13 of 19 from the field, 3 of 7 from the 3, 9 of 10 from the free throw line.
You had Bam gave you 15 and 12 rebounds. Wiggins, Andrew Wiggins gave you 20 points and nine rebounds.
They got off the bench. Davion Mitchell gave you 15.
They just never let the Bulls get into this game. They took the crowd out early and the crowd was never able to get into this game, Joe.
Man, hey, that's Heat culture, man.

See, those guys are proving.

They done been to the finals. They done played.

They know what it's like to play in big games.

And the Bulls kind of showed

their inexperience today because

the Heat just kind of went in there and just took

what they wanted. I like how Hero played.

He was very, very efficient.

And he just caused havoc all night.

Bam, doing what he does defensively, being disruptive, scoring, making plays. I thought they had a great team effort against the Bulls.
The Bulls didn't really give me what I was looking for. I agree.
Great being at home. Hey, let me tell you, this is what you're going to expect from the Heat.
This is what we did on the road. So regardless to I don't care who our matchup is, obviously.
I'm going to tell you this. We might come out east.
So I don't want anybody... Come out east.
Y'all might come out of Miami, but that's the only thing y'all coming out of here. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Don't do that. Don't do that.
Don't do that. Don't do that.
Now you saw what Bam did tonight. You saw what Tyler Hero did tonight.
You saw the contribution we got from everybody else. Heat come out east.
I don't want to hear

nothing about nobody was

surprised. Oh, we can't believe this happened.

They let Jimmy Butler go and they still were able to make it

out of east. Y'all be lucky

to get a game. Y'all be lucky to get a game or two

off the Cavs. Hey, hey, hold on.

Oh, whoa, whoa. Wait, come again?

Y'all not beating

the Cavs.

So you think tonight's, you think the Heat you saw tonight Won't be able to beat the Cavs No Hey they gotta come here and beat the Hawks On Friday That's what I'm talking about They gotta come see the Hawks on Friday And he gonna be in this thing ready You hear me The Hawks The Atlanta the who? The Hawks. The Atlanta Hawks.
He got to come play. Oh, Joe.
Is it cold out there? Hey. You know I ain't trading like this, baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on now.
Let me tell you. Listen, I know you're down in Atlanta.
I know you played for the Hawks, but let's be serious. Let's be serious.
With all due respect to Trae Young, there's nothing that the Atlanta Hawks can do with the Miami Heat so y'all going home I got the Hawks Ocho Friday baby we gonna have we gonna have that thing jumping you hear me ATL all the way y'all gonna be jumping but it's gonna be the wrong way you know DC gonna be in the house probably pussy gonna be there come on now hey hey it's gonna be stop studying that thing on joe hey you know where you need to come on down let me come check it out with your boy when when is the game play friday this friday yeah uh my daughter tracked me she run at uh university uh florida you know she run for University of Kentucky. So I got to go to the track.

Okay.

Who you got?

Man, I'm saying, hey.

I'm saying.

I'm saying.

Oh, hey.

When a dirty boy drop.

When a dirty boy drop.

You better hit the floor.

Hold on.

That's.

Hey.

Hey.

So, hey.

Listen, y'all want to make a light little bet or no?

No, you don't pay your bets. Oh, yeah.
You don't pay. No, I don't want to make nothing with you.
Okay, I'm just making sure. I mean, listen, you believe so much in this.
I mean, what you want to do? Put it on the floor. But I also believe in this, which you haven't paid me.
Man. Hey, Joe, I hate the fact we're talking basketball right now.
He's talking about that. Joe, you got cash out, Joe? Hold on.
No, no. I mean, Joe, you got cash out? Yeah, I got it out.
I got it out. You got Apple Pay? You got Venmo? You got PayPal, huh? Yeah.
Okay, case closed. He don't want to download none of them.
He could have had his money about seven months ago. I don't have that, Joe.
I don't have a whole lot of apps on my phone. Okay.
I don't have email. And I think you have to have email to put this thing up.
So why am I going to get... Why don't you just give me my money? You trying to get me to do all the...
Hey, he ought to download this, right, Joe? You got Cash App. You got Benmo.
Don't worry about what that man got. Give me my damn money.
Hey, that man spent that little 50-200. Yeah 50, 200.
I see him riding around like that man's 700,000. You hear me? That's what I'm saying.
They talking about he playing. This man ain't playing in my face.
He putting on a Broadway play in my face. He's do it.
It's like, come on.

My bad,

my bad,

my bad.

Don't leave him alone.

Stay out of it.

Don't stay out of it.

Ain't got nothing to do with me. Nah,

Joe,

don't stay out of it.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

All right.

My bad,

Joe.

I tried to figure out

this bad.

Joe,

honestly,

honestly,

he know I'm not the type of person

that carries cash.

I never have been.

I keep $100 on me at a time in 20s. That's it.
I don't carry no cash. If you really wanted your money, you're going to download one of them apps, create an email, and then delete the app after I send you your money.
How about this here? Take your eBay from good times looking ass to the bank, withdraw $5,200, and bring me my damn money. Oh, man.
You keep on talking about what I need to do. Why do I got to do all of this for money that you owe me? That's just like if I owe the bank.
Now, what y'all need to do is to go set up this and to go set up that. No.
Hey, can I tell you something? What? Everything you do,

it dates back

to prehistoric times.

We are in 2025.

When people make transactions,

they use apps

that make it very simple.

We don't have to go

to a bank

and withdraw money.

Here, if I owe you something,

give me your cash app,

give me your Venmo,

give me your PayPal email,

give me your Apple Pay

and I'm going to send you your 5200. The limit is 75.
I only owe you 52. You didn't want to do that.
I've done everything possible I can to give you your money. So now you got to wait till I see you in June in Baltimore.
Oh, Joe, I just got direct deposit in 2016 because Fox said they would not send me a paper check.

I had to get direct deposit in 2016.

Up until that, everybody that I had ever worked for gave me a check. CBS sent me a check.
I would go upstairs and get my check from the Broncos and the Ravens. I like to see my money.
I mean, old school, man. You want to see it.
So I want to see my problem. Hey, listen.
Hey, no. You want to be George Flintstone so bad.
I bet you start your car with your feet too, huh? Come on, man. Fred Flintstone.
Oh, George, George, Fred. George is a Jetson.
Oh, my bad. My bad.
No. Hey, when you go, when you go to the bank, how do they give you the money? They count it out.
They're right there in front of you. Yeah.
Two, three, four. That's how you all show the cap two of them.
That's how I wanted to count mine out. Okay.
Listen, that's how you start bad habits. That's how you start bad habits.
That's how you start bad habits. Hey, withdrawing any amount of money over $1,000 is how you start bad habits.
I'm just telling you how I live.

You got your way of living.

I got my...

The bad habit I started

is that I let you slide

after the first week

you ain't paid my money.

I should have beat hell out you

like Stewie did Brian

when he owed me that money.

Hey, can I tell you one thing

about beat me?

You know these hands

are registered, right?

That's okay.

My thing registered too.

And then that 52

ain't done on interest or nothing? Yeah! I've been told. He told me.
Hey, Joey, interesting story. That's about it.
I'm just trying to figure out

You're leaving

Prehistoric times

Why do I have to

Download things

To get my money

Because it's convenient

It's convenient

It's not supposed to be

Convenient for you

It's supposed to be

Convenient for me

Exactly

That's why you download

The app

And I just see you the money

It takes two seconds

Two

I ain't got two seconds

I don't got two seconds. If we were the tussle, how long it take to get rid of you and drop you? Two seconds.
I promise you. Lord, have a...
I tell you what. I tell you what.
Me and you wrestle. I'll put that $5,200.
Man, so make it light on yourself. I can give you what James Harrison going to get.
How you want it? No, we going to wrestle. We got a wrestling match.
If I throw you, you owe me 10-4. If you throw me, we even.
Can I ask you a question? Ask me whatever you like. What, do you see that? You think you throwing anything over here? Yep.
You ain't the only one been in the gym now. I'm just different over here now.
This ain't the same Ocho when we first started the show. I'm 220.
I promise you. Whatever change you got in your pocket, I'm going to slam your ass so hard it's going to come out.
So whatever you got in your damn pocket, I guarantee you it's coming out. I ain't going to go in your pockets and get it.
I'm going to throw you on your damn head. Damn.
Y'all got this man talking. Just an interesting story.
Show me. Damn.
Yo, check this out. An anonymous NBA exec hopes the Mavericks keep Nico Harrison in charge.
It's always good to have a desperate GM out there. They saying Niko desperate? Look, you and I both know, Joe, when you move somebody like Luka, that's not a general manager decision.
That's ownership. I'll give you an example.
When they traded, when the Lakers traded Shaq, did anybody think that was anybody else's decision other than Dr. Jerry Buss's? That wasn't Jerry West.
That wasn't any Mitch Kutchak. That wasn't anybody to tell him.
That was a Dr. Buss decision.
When you move Luka, that is upper management. That's above Nico's pay grade.
Now, Nico has taken all the hits, all the victory, all the fans are giving, and everybody's kicking all the general managers, keeping him in charge. When they know damn well that was Dumont's call, period.
And that's why I say I feel like the Managers got cheated because I still think with Kyrie and that team that they have right now that's playing, they had a chance to really make some noise in the playoffs or be a top seed in the playoffs. They fighting for their life right now.
And with them just getting their guys healthy, it's like everything just kind of came crashing down all at once. You know what I mean? It's like, dang, we traded our franchise guy Luka.
Now that Kyrie get hurt, on top of all the other injuries that we keep accumulating. AD was hurt, Lively was hurt, Gafford got hurt.
It just started stockpiling, and things just kind of started going south. And I think that's what really put our eyes on it, because they just started going downhill from there.
Hey, I have a question.

If management is responsible

for the Luka trade,

why are they sitting back

and letting Nico Collins

take all the heat?

Why don't they do

what Jerry Jones does?

Come out, say something,

let the people know,

listen, this is how we felt.

Based on us having to invest

the type of money we felt

in Luka, we felt

it was in the best interest

to make him move

instead of putting

that kind of money into him for the next five, five to seven years, whatever it may have been. It's simple.
That's why a lot of times you put people in position because, you know, poop rolls downhill. So it ain't gonna stay up on the hill because the hill is where the owner is.
So it's gonna roll down and cover Nico. And Nico says, you know what? I'll take it.
He understand that's a part of his job is to take some of that blowback. A lot of general managers, it's just like anything.
People get upset when general, and when you trade a player, when you trade a player like that, that's ownership. Ain't no way they overcome this? I'm saying, let's say, let's say they end up losing to Memphis and they get KD this summer.
Oh, okay. Now you be right back.
But Joe, let me ask you this. Because this notion that if you drop KD in, you're automatically a championship contending team.
Now, maybe that was upon a time you dropped them in at Golden State, but they were 73 and 9. That didn't work out in

Brooklyn, and it went

horrible. It went even worse

than Phoenix that it did in Brooklyn.

And we know how it ended in Brooklyn.

So are we sure

we know how

great, historically great KD

is. He's one of the great all-time bucket

getters, as efficient as anybody

has ever been, that mainly

shoots the ball and doesn't play with his back

to the rim. But are we sure if we drop KD in anywhere, they are a championship contending team? No, we're not sure.
I think it'll be a good look because everything still kind of centers around Kyrie. Is he going to come back? When is he going to start playing again? That's going to be when? Next year? Probably.
I'm thinking the 2026 season. Yeah, see, with just Durant and AD, I mean, I like it, but I just need that PG.
I need Kyrie at the one healthy, man. Yes.
Yeah. And look, I agree, but here's the thing.
Do you have the assets? There's only a handful of teams that can appease maybe what the Phoenix Suns want as far as players and the draft capital. That's OKC.
I don't think KD wants to go back to OKC. I don't either.
Because I'm going to tell you now, I'm going to want Jalen Williams, I'm going to want Lou Dort, I'm going to get Chet Hungry to Hardenstein, and I'm going to need three or four draft picks. But this is the thing.
Let's say if KD does happen to go to AKC, the production that you get offensively having KD there with SGA, it can replace losing those players. No, because what makes them so good is the perimeter defenders.
Jalen Williams, tremendous on the ball. You got Lou Dort, tremendous on the ball.
I'm going to take one of those bigs because I need a big. That's what I need in Phoenix.
Because when you had D.A., DeAndre Ayton, but for whatever reason, him and Monty couldn't get along. They reluctantly, they waited until the last minute, and then I think they matched Indiana.
I think Indiana put an offer on him, and they ended up matching him, and he hated that. And so they ended up going to Portland, and it fell apart, and Monty got fired.
They bring in Frank Vogel, he gets fired. They bring in Mike Boonehoser.
He gets fired. So it's like, hold on, you got $80 million tied up in coaches that's not going to coach for you next year.
So I get it. But I think the thing is that we might need to – and look, I'm looking at it.
I don't know without looking at it what the Mavericks have as far as draft compensation. Now they didn't have to give up they had to give up something because they traded for Kyrie.
Now what actually did they give up to get Kyrie? Right. Now you get what the 2028 first round pick from the Lakers and you got Max Chris there in AD.
That's really the only draft compensation that you got. You need multiple because think about what you gave up to get KD.
All those draft picks that you gave up, and you gave up two young, solid players. You gave up Mikael Bridges, and you gave up Cam Johnson.
Yeah. So, you're going to have to replace that.
Now, maybe, maybe, Joe, they still have Isaiah Joe who can defend. They still have Carl Wiggins who can defend.
You have Caruso who can defend. So they might be willing to give up a Jalen Williams, give up a Lou Dort, give up a Hartenstein, give up three first-round draft picks because they got so many draft picks.
But if I'm Phoenix, I need players that can come in and play, but I also need that draft compensation to restock the coffers of what I gave up to get KD. And you don't want to give up your blue-collar workers, man.
Not all your blue-collars. I like Hardstein, Dork, them blue collars workers that, you know, that

play big minutes defensively. Understand their roles.

Yeah, there we go. They definitely

understand their role and they're going to play it and they're going to star

in it. So, uh, it's hard

giving up players like that, man.

Hmm.

Bocho, what you thinking?

I like it. I like it.

I like it. Oh my goodness.
I'm shooting. I like it.

Oh, my goodness.

I don't think it's going to happen.

Oh, he's moving.

It's just a wearer.

They're going to move it.

Yeah.

Well, I told you where I wanted to go.

Where?

If it's not OKC, if it's not Dallas, obviously, I like Joe saying, you know, what happened in Dallas.

But you're going to come on down here to Miami, man.

Come on here down to Miami.

I think, Pat, we need a superstar.

We need a superstar. I'm not saying it's LeBron.
We got somebody... Tyler Hero.
Pat ain't giving up Tyler Hero. We're not giving up Bam.
You ain't giving up Tyler Hero either. I ain't giving up Tyler Hero, bro.
He ain't giving up. Remember, hold up.
Was it three years ago, Joe? He had an opportunity to get James Harden. and he wouldn't include Tyler Hero in a package.
You think he going to give up Tyler Hero after he just watched him? He averaged 23. He's probably going to win sixth man of the year.
He just dropped 38 in a playoff game, and you think he going to give that up? And Tyler Hero can't be no more than, what, 23, 24, Joe? Yeah, he's probably about 24. We all talk about one of the greatest scores of all time we talk about, right?

We talk about that KD?

We talk about that Kevin Durant? Yeah. Right? Okay.
I'm just curious. How long is KD? What are you, 37? 36-37, yeah.
the Mavs have traded out of the 2027

1-2 protected

28, 29 first round picks

and a 2030 pick swap with San Antonio. They ain't got nothing to offer.
They're both women used to say, hey, you going to get me there? What you want me to get it with, son? Ass and mouth? What y'all is going to offer, Joe? I don't know but uh I just figured he went to school

and take mouth? What down is going to offer, Joe? Hey, listen.

I don't know, but

I just figured he went to school in Texas.

I feel like he'll go back to Texas and play.

He will.

But I'm not going to give him to you.

Yeah, I know, but

I don't know. They're going to have to figure out

something. It's going to have to be a three-team, trade,

four-team. It's going to be some teams.
Get in with

them or something.

Obviously, you have to take a three-team, trade, four-team, it's going to be some teams, get in with them or something. Obviously, you have to take, but the question is what about, okay, AD going to want an extension.
Kyrie going to want an extension. We were getting where we couldn't pay the bill.
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Kyrie gonna get his in the offseason. He gonna get his in the offseason.
But it doesn't matter what Phoenix does, right? They will never be able to get back the conversation or the value that they gave him to get KD. You never will.
You never will. So at some point, you know that he wants to move, you're to have to do the best you can and the best thing they can do is send him right in the down in Miami I'm going to call the Pat I'm going to tell Pat Pat you got to change your ways Pat Riley is like you a little bit he's stuck in the 80s he's stuck in the 90s he's doing everything the opposite way as opposed to the times we're in.
And that's hurt us. As an organization, and me as a Heat fan.
Don't go down there and play with Pat. Pat ain't trying to hear all that.
And that's the thing, Ocho. Think about it.
The Lakers had, excuse me, the Heat had won back-to-back championships. They're in the midst of a 27-game winning streak.
And Pat want to plume his feathers. He want to puff out his chest.
He going to take the cookies. Kate, you got to understand, you have to deal in basketball.
Stars have always, stars have always run the NBA. Pat needs to understand that you have to, it has to be a little bit more give and take.

Joe, even when you were there, it's more

give. The players

are fully empowered now.

Now, they're trying to wrestle some of it back

and you see the trade with Luka, it had

everybody on eggshells. You heard Giannis,

I guess ain't nobody safe.

Ain't nobody safe. You hear all the guys

talking.

Pat's going to have to look.

Pat, everybody know

what I hate is when people try to

bro, we know you in control, Pat.

But cookies

hey,

D-Wade told a story. D-Wade

said LeBron pushed back from the car

table and sat there.

Man.

Hey. He didn't play no more cards

and you know, Joe, you played Thank you. and LeBron pushed back from the card table and sat there.
Man.

He didn't play no more cards.

And you know, Joe, you play cards.

We from that area.

If you push back from the table and you stop playing,

it takes up something real serious to break up a card game.

A card game?

Yeah.

When you playing tongue, you playing boulevard,

you playing guts.

I don't care what you playing.

If you break the card game up, Ocho. It's a wrap.
It's something serious. Yeah.
Okay. And then you will try to come on there.
Hey, pull your rings out your pocket. You need...
Man, Broncino later for you. Yeah.
Later for you. Now look at it.
Jimmy Butler did the same thing. Yeah.
Hold on. All I would have needed to look at D.
Wade. After everything D.
Wade did, D. Wade, Pat Riley ain't got no loyalty now.
The only person he's ever had loyalty to was who? UD. Because UD turned that big deal down from Dallas, took less money, and they took care of UD.
I get that. But your best player was Dwayne Wade, and you mean to tell me he had to go to Chicago after all the back seats that he took so you could get players? I was on that team.
I was on that team playing with D. Wade that last year in Miami, and we all was free agents.
There was a lot of us that was free agents out there. And they was like, man, y'allall gonna come back to Miami? And of course, I would love to come back to Miami, but when we started negotiations, D-Wade was just trying to get 10 a year.
He was just trying to get 10 a year. And man, they threw a fit at D-Wade.
I'm like, man, they got Wade County and everything out there. He can't get nothing.
I ain't gonna need me calling, Pat. I said, let me just move on.
I'm going to just go to Utah. I'm going to kick it with these boys over here in Utah.
We're going to raise some hell over here. Hey, Joe.
Only, they gave him a fit. Only at 10 a year? Only 10? Yeah, man.
Yeah, that man was just trying to get 10 a year, and I seen all the trouble he was having with it. I'm like, hold on.
It ain't even no need of my representation calling, Pat. We just might as well keep it moving.
Don't even waste your time. That's a phone call to some oxygen.
I might need that oxygen down the road somewhere. And I raced it three or four minutes with him.
Now I'm good. Hey, hey, you're talking with him.
Okay, hold on. I'll be there.
Don't worry about it. Yeah.
And that's the thing, though, Ocho, is you think about it. After everything that D.
Wade had done, all the sacrifice that he had taken, he had helped recruit Bosh. He had helped recruit LeBron.
He took less money because they would say, hey, we need you to take less money. We're going to get KD.
We're going to get KD. Okay, when KD don't come, and you gave Bosh that big what, break red now? Yeah.
Right. Yeah.
And so, that's why I don't, look, I don't feel bad when players leave because loyalty is a one-sided equation. Yeah.
They want players to be loyal, and then when you don't do what they say, they're like, well, he's not serious about winning. No.
Hey, look at Boston. They winning, and they got two of the highest-paid guys in the NBA.
Both of them making over $300 million. And you just gave Derrick White like $120.
You gave Holiday like $130. Yeah.
What did Pritchett get? Huh? They gave Pritchett something, too. What did they get Pritchett over there? Yeah, they gave Lil Pritchett.
And they about to do something with the Przingas. Hey, but you know when you win, everybody eat.
You know what I mean? Yes. So they won that title, and I'm sure they looking to repeat.
It's going to be tough to knock them boys off, man. This is probably the most interesting playoffs that we probably had in quite some time because the one in the A-C's are going to be tough, especially in the West.
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
But Pat got to realize, Pat, ain't nobody coming to see you play. He wants to be the central theme.

But you know, he's a central theme without making any noise.

Oh, no, he's doing some back leg stuff

behind and under the scenes.

Everybody know who's running the show.

Yeah, he ain't making no noise.

But see, my thing is, Ocho,

if you say, hey, Shan, I'm going to give you,

here's the job, I'm going to pay you X.

I'm going to let you have access.

I'm going to let X, Y, and Z.

Now, when you get me there, don't think you're going to change up.

Because I'm going to book.

I'm going to act up.

I'm just going to tell you how it is.

Be one way with me.

When you tell me what I get, okay.

That's it.

That's it.

You tell me I get a room, I get a suite on the road.

Don't you come here talking about, hey, well, they have no suites available. You should have booked this in advance.
Just do. I'm always going to be this how I am, Joe.
Just do what you say. I don't want you to do anything.
If we didn't agree, do it on Joe. I'm cool with it.
I am absolutely cool with it. But boy, you tell me something.
And then you go to my home. And do another.
Don't worry about it. Don't, I ain't going to even hold you.
Right. But I just want you to know the first chance I get, I'm going to exit stage left.
Yeah. I ain't finna argue, I ain't finna argue with you.
You know, because a lot of times you're like, well, he's difficult to do. If you tell me something and you don't follow through, you better believe I'm difficult.
I'm a difficult mofo to deal with. Absolutely.
One thousand. So you're not dealing with the games, huh? Just be, Ocho, I've always been tell me the truth.
I might not like it, but I can stomach it because I feel you're being honest with me. Honest.
Yes, sir. If you lie to me one time, don't even worry about it.
And one, you don't give nobody no grace? No, not when it comes to business. Oh, business.
Okay, okay. Because now I can't trust you, Ocho.
Right, right. Your word needs to be what it is.
If I tell you I'm going to pay you $10, I'm going to give you $10, not $9.50, not $8.75. I'm going to give you $10.
But don't bring your ass here talking about we agreed to $13. No, no, here, look here.
Is that your signature right there? Okay, we agreed to the T. That's how I am, Ochoa.

I don't know how you guys are, Joe, but just be straight up with me.

I'm the same way, bro.

I'm the same way.

I totally understand.

I totally understand.

Hey, check this out, Joe.

You're going to get a kick out of this one.

What's that? The Clippers use Ben Simmons as Nikola Jokic in their scout team at practice.

Huh? You can't buy better using Zubats. I bet.
I bet. I bet Ben probably killed in that role.
Guys, it be different sometimes. You put him in practice, you make him be somebody else, man, they will actually probably play better than him at times.
He can't shoot, though, Joe. Huh? He's afraid to shoot, though.
He is,, man I watched the game the other day Against the Warriors, actually And man had a point blade layup Man, he He just so much selfish, bro I think we look at his height Because he's 6'9", 6'10", but man That man is a true point guard He's a true point guard Yeah, he's a true point guard. Yeah, he's a pass-first point guard.
Well, he's a pass-first, not-shoot-at-all point guard, which is not very good. It's not.
Not in today's game. Not in today's game because the three-point shot in the space, we have a very special guest joining us, WWE superstar.

Ah, here she is, the only woman.

Go ahead.

Here she is, Bianca Belair.

Bianca, how you doing?

I'm doing good.

I'm in Vegas.

I'm getting ready for WrestleMania, so I'm doing good.

How are you?

I'm good.

So let me ask you a question. You're getting ready for WrestleMania.

Tell me what you're going through. So what's the steps now? Okay, it's a couple of days away from WrestleMania.
Are you doing anything different? Are you eating anything different? You're making sure you get your rest. What are you going through? I'm locked in.
It's WrestleMania. So WrestleMania is our Super Bowl.
So yeah, I'm dieting. Listen, my body is full of water, grilled chicken, broccoli.
I'm over here working out. I'm big and strong right now.
Dang, Ocho, y'all are bigger than yours, Ocho. Put your arms down, Ocho.
Hey, B, can I call you B.B.? I got to give you a nickname. Yeah, that's good.
That's good. Okay, now I understand when it comes to wrestling now, I'm known historically for my bad diet and still being able to play at a high level eating mcdonald's only is it are your diet strict are you uh vegetarian vegan i don't know some of these other names or you have cheat meals as well i have cheat meals so i'm somebody i'm somebody who i don't like to i'm moderation right Like I don't like to like put anything out.
If I want it, I have cheat meals. So I'm somebody who, I don't like to, I'm moderation, right? Like, I don't like to, like, cut anything out.
If I want it, I have it in moderation. But when it's WrestleMania, I lock in.
I pretty much, I try to have cheat meals. So I'm ready for Sunday.
I'm on night to WrestleMania. And after Sunday, after I defeat Io and Rhea and I take that title, I'm going to be in McDonald's probably the next day.
So, Bianca, tell us about the triple threat match. How does that go? Yeah, so I have a title match.
I'm in a triple threat match. I'm going against Rhea Ripley and right now our WWE Women's Champion is EO Scott.
So it's a triple threat. And whoever gets the first pin wins.
So at this point, I won the Elimination Chamber. I'm supposed to be going to WrestleMania.
I'm supposed to be facing EO Scott and it's just been a bunch of shenanigans. My path to WrestleMania has been crazy.
I ended up being a special guest referee and so now it's a triple threat. So that's why I'm going up against at WrestleMania.
Oh, okay. Now, hold on.
What happened? You, Jade, and Naomi, y'all were cool. I know.
Jade, my girl, hold on what happened you jade and naomi y'all were cool i know jade my girl what hold on now hey if there's some beef i don't know i might have to come down there bianca something that wasn't really going on it's crazy right now wrestlemania season it gets crazy and it breaks my heart yeah um you know it's so much has happened in a year last wrestlemania you had the big three. You had me, Jade, and Naomi.
We were having a tag match. Jade and I, we were in a tag team together.
We did amazing things. We put the tag team division on the map.
And then it's just a lot that happened. You know, Jade got taken out and Naomi stepped in so that I wouldn't have to relinquish that title because I felt like we put so much hard work into it.

And so the whole time we're trying to figure out

who took Jade out and come to

find out,

it was Naomi.

What?

It was Naomi.

Trifling good for nothing.

Trust me, I was just as confused as everybody

else. Jade came back.
I thought she was

coming back. Listen, I done been loud

and wrong the whole time. I've been attacking

other girls thinking they're the ones that did it

Thank you. Trust me, I was just as confused as everybody else.
Jade came back. I thought she was coming back.
Listen, I done been loud and wrong the whole time. I've been attacking other girls, thinking they're the ones that did it, making enemies.
Jade came back. I'm thinking she's coming for Liv.
She started beating up Naomi. I'm like, what is going on? At this point, I feel like I'm now stuck in the middle.
Jade, I don't think she's trusting me right now.

And I'm like, I'm confused.

So right now, I feel like we're trying to get through WrestleMania.

Jade has a match with Naomi, which breaks my heart.

I have a triple threat match.

And I think we're just trying to get through WrestleMania.

Then maybe we'll revisit that and try to figure all that out.

It's crazy.

Hey, you know what? Speaking of WrestleMania, listen, you've created some historic moments at WrestleMania, obviously. And looking back, if you're able to look back, what's your favorite WrestleMania memory moments so far in your career? I mean, I definitely have to go with main event in WrestleMania with Sasha Banks.
We made history. We were the first two black women to main event WrestleMania.
It was coming right off of the pandemic, so it was a crazy time in the world. But I was a rookie my very first year.
I found myself in main event of WrestleMania. I won the SmackDown title.
We won an ESPN off of that match. So we got recognizing the world of sports, which I'm all about because I've been an athlete my whole life.
So, ever since that moment, like it's just changed the whole trajectory of my career and has been uphill since then. But that's that's the memory that's always going to stick with me because it was more than just about having a wrestling match.
You know, like it was about inspiring generations to come and be in representation. So that's definitely like the moment that sticks with me.
Right. Hey, Bianca, I want to ask a question.
This is Joe. What's your regimen as far as working out? I see you cut up over there.
How do you stay tone? What you doing? Yoga, Pilates? What's the secret? Cut up like a bag of dope. Listen, I don't do yoga and Pilates because I can sit still i'm i'm a girl who i lift very heavy weight i do a lot of uh circuit training um but i live very heavy weight i do a lot of circuit training like crossfit type of training but i can't sit still i can't get with the yoga and pilates the crossfit it's not a lot of wrist in there.
It's just like constant moving, huh? Yeah. To me, it's like the best thing to do that kind of simulates wrestling because it's full body movements and it's just like circuit training.
Yeah. So you're more of a hit type of workout.
You like high intensity and you like to keep it going. Yes.
So I'm going to do this for an hour. I know I'm going to burn maximum calories.
I'm getting full body because look, everybody ain't got time to, I'm going to hit chest and tris. I'm going to hit back and thighs.
I'm going to hit hamstrings today. I'm going to hit quads tomorrow.
You know, I'm trying to get into eight. I got a small amount of time.
I'm going to get in the gym. I'm going to kill it all.
I'm hitting back, shoulders, hamstring, glute,

wads, calves.

A full body workout. I mean, we travel a lot.

So, like, we always have to try to find whatever gym. I'd be a

hotel gym, whatever gym is on the corner

that day. So, we have to

try to, like, adjust to what we're

doing. So, I'm always trying to get the best workout

in. I'm always a hit girl.

I'm not doing cardio. This is a hit.
And I love the Peloton.oton. I stay on the Peloton.
That's the only way I can do cardio on a machine. Really? Yeah.
Let me ask you this. When you work out, do you like listening to music or do you just I do.
I do. I do.
My playlist is all over the. I be having like Meg and Cardi and then next thing you know, it's Kirk Franklin.
I listen to a lot of gospel music when I work out because I be going through it. I'm like, Lord, just Jesus take the will.
Help me get through this. Because when people be asking me, can I come work out with you? And I be like, I don't think you want to do that.
Because I be getting it in. What different sports did you play growing up? So I started out with track and field and gymnastics.
So those are like my two bases, which I feel like. You can see the foundation.
Yeah, that's my foundation, track and field and gymnastics. And I did those sports majority of my life.
I played basketball as well. You go home? But I'm sorry.
You go home? I mean, I was good on defense. I got the rebounds.
Listen, I say that to ask, like what sports you played growing growing up and I just want to know at what point was a transition for you really when you realize you know a wrestling is my calling and not the other sports that I played as a as a young yeah that didn't happen until I was an adult I was 27 so I went to college and ran track I went to um University of South Carolina Texas A&&M, and University of Tennessee. I ran track.
And after college, I was like, I've been an athlete my whole life. I have to do something.
So that's when I found CrossFit. And I realized my whole life, I've been grinding and trying to get a scholarship and working so hard.
I was forgetting to have fun when I was playing sports. So CrossFit, I was like, okay, I'm having fun.
I'm going to make it for my own outfits. I was going out there in tutus.
I was forgetting to have fun when I was working when I was playing sports so CrossFit I was like okay I'm having fun I'm gonna make it some of my own outfits I was going out there in tutus I was turning flips and then doing the power clean and press and grabbing a microphone and talking to the audience and Mark Henry who's a WWE Hall of Fame he saw a video of me he's like you're basically a wrestler you you're basically wearing a wrestling gear you're talking to the audience and um I didn't really watch wrestling growing up. My brother watched it.
So I would watch it here and there with him. So I was just somebody who didn't know much about the business.
So he got me a tryout and I did two tryouts, got hired, had no idea what I was doing. And then I completely fell in love with it.
So I love meeting people who always say always say like I don't watch wrestling that's not for me or I haven't watched it since back in the day and I'm like listen that used to be me just come to a show just watch and you're gonna fall in love so much has changed and so I feel like it's my soulmate like I think of it as like my husband like once wrestling came into my life I'm like where have you been this whole time? This is what I've been looking for. Wow.
Now, you know, Jay played college basketball also. So one-on-one, who win it? Listen, we did hot ones and we had to play, and she whooped me.
She whooped me. I call myself the EST, but she whooped me in basketball.
She's really athletic. I've seen her work out a couple times.
She used to train with the trainer that trained me when I retired. No, she's a— Have y'all worked out together? We haven't.
Every time we went on, we would go on the road, we would try to get together and work out. Well, actually, one time we didn't work out, but we actually read our mouths more than we worked out.
So that didn't go well. Here's the thing.
Charlotte Flair and Tiffany Stratton got a little personal with their comments. Did you think they crossed the line? You said, oh, don't worry about it.
When I get y'all ass in that ring, we'll settle this. Listen, in wrestling, you never know what's going to happen.
That's what's really cool about wrestling. That's what makes it entertaining.
You never know when lines are being blurred and when they're not being blurred. And I think that with what happened in the ring it caused a lot of conversation online

and it brought more eyes to what's

about to happen and all I can say is I feel

like a lot more people are going to be tuned in

to what's going to be happening at Wrestlemania

and whatever beef they got inside and

outside the ring they're going to settle that at Wrestlemania

and we all going to be locked in watching

you know what I like I like that

you got something Joe

I'm going to be tuned in I want to see What they talking about See what they got going on Yeah Exactly I got one I got I got one more question Go ahead I got one more If you could have a dream match With any WWE legend Past or present Who would you choose? I will have to go with Oh it's hard to pick one. Trish Stratus.
You know, Trish, she just came in and had a couple of matches. She still can throw down in that ring.
She gets down. But for me, I think it would be Beth Phoenix.
Just because she was one of the first ones that I watched and I saw her pick up two girls on her shoulders and I'm like damn yeah and I'm like I want to do that like I want to do that Beth Phoenix and Jazz those would be my top two okay I like it I like it we saw you recently return to your high school to donate hurdles you mentioned that you played it you ran track at the University of South Carolina Tennessee Texas A&M Curtis Fry the head coach at South Carolina I think If it. You ran track at the University of South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A&M.
Curtis Fry, the head coach at South Carolina. I think McKinnon now, because he used to be at LSU.
Now he's at Texas A&M, correct? Oh, I'm not sure. When I was there, it was Coach Anderson at Texas A&M.
Okay. Yeah.
So what was your fondest memory of high school? I mean, because obviously you were very athletic. You had to be one of the most popular girls at that school.
I was, you know what? I was popular, but not because I had a lot of friends. Um, I was actually very quiet and reserved into myself, into myself in high school.
I had like a very select group of friends, like my best friend to this day. It was my best friend when I was like eight years old, even through high school.
That's awesome. But I was so locked in with track.
Like everybody else was at parties. I was on the track running.
I was waking up in the morning doing, I would do a thousand abs every morning and like 300 pushups every morning. And I was focused in high school.
But I think my best, it's crazy, my best memories were on the track with the track team we were my group of friends that was the first lesson of women empowerment for me because we really stuck together, we really pushed each other. And we trained hard.
Like, we're still friends to this day. And then I think, like, my high school, I think, like, football games.
Like, my high school, the band mimicked the HBCU type of band. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you know. And I was a cheerleader, and I played basketball.
And so, like, we were, like, my cheerleading team, we were like the Clovers. So we were more of a step team.
And, like, I would play basketball with the girls. And then after the game, I would go in the locker room and switch over from my basketball uniform into my cheerleading uniform.
And I would go out and then cheer for the boys and flip down the court. Damn! Those were my fondest memories.
It all revolved around sports and stuff. I can honestly say in all my life, I've been, look, I was in 4-H.
I was raised on a farm. I've been to the county fair.
I ain't never heard no ish like that. I'm a hoop book for the women and then I'm gonna go change out.
I'm gonna get my cheerleading. I'm on top of the pyramid.
Go guys. Damn.
I was a little bottom of the pyramid. I was the base.
The base. Yeah.
Hey, hearing the story, hearing your stories about track, it resonates with me so well because obviously my daughter runs track right now for University of Kentucky and she's a sophomore and her friend, her whole core group, her nucleus, is actually those that run track with her because there's nobody really outside of that. And that's really dope.
That's really dope. Yeah, man.
I always feel like women in sports, we learn our best lessons. Whether you go and become an Olympian or a professional athlete or not, you learn so many lessons when it comes to sports and you get so many friends that become lifelong friends.
So I'm happy she's having a great experience. Go ahead, go ahead, Joe.
What about your athletic ability? Which parent does it come from? It comes from your mom or your dad? From both. From both.
My mama said she was fast. She's running a track? She said, well, no.
Neither one of them actually played sports in high school, but they both said that they were both athletic. Damn.
We ain't got no footage? No. I just take their word for it word for it I have to believe it because I got it from somewhere I think I got it from both of them Bianca there's nothing easy about track practice because it's you you have to do the work and you're only going to get in you're only going to get out what you put in because that's a really lonely sport sport.
It's a really individual sport. Because can't nobody help you.
I always say track is, we were just talking about this with my parents over the weekend, track is one of the hardest sports out there. And we were saying how you train so hard.
And for instance, say you run the 100, and you train for 10 seconds 10 seconds 11 seconds that's it and it's not you don't get you don't get immediate immediate gratification for instance for like like basketball even if you lose the game ever you you still score points you score buckets so you get that immediate gratification football you might score a touchdown track is that gun goes off, you cross the finish line, that's it. And a lot of times you hardly, if you're like the top, top, top, you win a lot, right? But if you're not, you hardly ever really win in track.
That's crazy to think about. You trained all these years, you trained all these days, you hardly ever really win just you're you're you're going against yourself you're going against your own time and that's why like if you a track athlete when they have a track meet and you ask them like oh did you win you're like it doesn't matter if i won you should ask like did you beat your pr because it's always you against yourself yeah and it's a very very hard sport physically and mentally.
For the people that didn't watch First Take, we had you on First Take, Stephen A and I and Molly, and you was talking to tell us about the outfits that you wear. You make all of your own costumes.
Everything that you see her wear in the ring, guys, she designed it. Yeah, I make everything.
All of my gear, I make it. Most of it, I make it from scratch.
Some of it, if I run out of time, I'll customize it. But for the most part, I make it.
And I've never taken a sewing class a day in my life. I've learned everything through YouTube.
YouTube videos? YouTube. YouTube? Yep, trials.
Let me get on YouTube right now. I'm going to find me something I can do from YouTube.
You can. Wait, you see, you've never learned how to sew, but you can do things from watching YouTube.
Yeah, I went on YouTube. Oh, I took home mech.
So I do know how to sew a little bit. I made a shirt.
See? See? Yeah. It's just in trial and error.
It takes dedication and time, but I make everything. is's cool because when I watched the video game, the gear that I'm wearing, I made that.

My action figures, I made that.

But it's rough because I don't have a lot of time.

So a lot of time I'm sewing in the airport.

I'm sewing in my hotel room.

It's crazy.

But I keep pushing myself. And I'm excited about my WrestleMania gear this year.
Would you like to do movies? I mean, I can see you as an action. Yeah, I did.
I was in Bel Air the last season. And that was really, really cool.
That was my first experience of being in an actual show. But I would love it.

I mean, technically what we do in wrestling with storylines, it's acting.

And I look at people like Rock, John Cena, Batista.

They've all really set that blueprint.

And now with us going with Netflix, I feel like it's just going to open the door more and more. So I'm excited for the future.
I would love to be in movies. Can we expect another season of love in WWE? I mean, I hope so.
I'm waiting to hear back. It's funny, though, because I was somebody who was always like, I would never do reality TV.
Like, it's not for me. It's, mm-mm.
And then I learned to never say never. So, you know, the opportunity presented itself and we're like, okay, let's just, let's not try to be perfect.
Let's just be real. Let's just be us and see where it goes.
And we really wanted to open, like, pull that curtain back and show people what it's like to be, like, a WWE superstar and

be a spouse at the same time and balance

that lifestyle. So, I think

we, like, we

spoon-fed the first season. So,

it would be really cool to do a second

season and show more of our life

outside of wrestling.

Yeah. For those that don't know, Bianca

Husband is a WWE

participant also. So, how did you guys meet? We met in WWE.
So when I say WWE, like, completely changed my life. It completely changed my life.
It gave me a whole... You're not supposed to mess with somebody at work, Bianca? Oh, so, funny story.
Funny story. Yes, yes.
that was the rule and

mark henry literally oh gosh mark henry the one who got me into wwe

so when i first got into wwe i saw i saw him and he got injured really bad and uh he went away for

a couple of months i was like oh that's a beautiful man keep him from me and they did it

Thank you. got injured really bad and uh he went away for a couple of months i was like oh that's a beautiful man keep him from me and they did it so a couple of months later he came back and i was like oh okay so this is what we're doing and uh we just like immediately clicked and we just like never left each other's side and then mark henry came to the to the performance center is where we train.
When we first get in WWE, he pulls me aside. He's like talking to me about like, what do you want to do? And, you know, who do you want to be in the ring? He's like, you know, whatever you do, don't date anybody in the business.
And I'm just like, oh, too late. And I was like, OK.
And I'm like, oh, no. This is, what do I do now?

Yeah.

So when he found out we were dating and, you know, we were getting married.

I think once he found out we were getting married, he was like.

It's okay.

Okay, cool.

But, yeah, we just broke all the rules.

Well, congratulations.

WrestleMania 41 is this Friday and Saturday. Check it out on Peacock at 7pm Eastern on Peacock Wrestlemania 41 Friday and Saturday 7pm Eastern on Peacock anything else you promoting anything you got any supplements anything that you want to promote while you're here I'm just here to promote WrestleMania right now.
I'm going to be on night two, but WWE, we're taking over Vegas. It's a whole week long of events.
We have WWE World with autograph signings and meet and greets, and we have SmackDown on Friday, Hall of Fame Friday night, WrestleMania night one, WrestleMania night two. We have Raw Monday, NXT Tuesday.
My match is night two. I'm having a match, Triple Threat versus EO Sky, Rhea Ripley.
I'm going after WWE Women's World title, and I'm walking out of WrestleMania as champion because you can't spell WrestleMania without EST. I'm going undefeated at WrestleMania.
I like it. I love it.
Good luck. Thank you.
Thank you for joining us, Bianca. Best of luck.
Continued success. Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished.
Much more to be accomplished. Thank you for joining us.
Good luck at WrestleMania. Bring the title home.
And when you get that title, come back and tell us how you did it. I got you.
Thank you for having me. You're very, very welcome.
Thanks to you. Ms.
Bianca Belair. Man, that was, she's unbelievable.
We had on a couple, about a month ago, she was on First Take. And so she's just, her personality, Ocho and Joe, she's just, I mean, you can see she's so bubbly.
You can see why people gravitate towards her. Her personality is infectious.
You can tell she's very passionate about what she does. That's why she's good at it.
You heard what she said? I did a thousand sit-ups every morning. I made sure I did 300 push-ups.
I did this. I did that.
A person that's motivated, they're going to be motivated in all things. Yes, sir.
Those are the people that you And those are the people that you want to surround yourself with. Those are the people that you want to be in business with.
You want on your team. You want very self-motivated people.
I don't need to motivate you with money. Because guess what? When you get enough of it, then what's the stimulus? I don't want to motivate you by fear.
I'm going to fire you or I'm going to do... At some

point in time, they become idle threats.

Self-motivation is really

sustainable.

And that's what I tell kids all the time,

bro. Young

ladies, guys, find

something that you're passionate about.

That's all you got to do.

Pour into it. Yes, sir.

That girl cut up like some onions, boy. Ain't she? Man.
Man, Joe. Hey, Joe, she mad, Joe.
We can't do too much. No, no, no, no.
All right. Look, I'm happy, okay? I'm just saying.
And I know you got people talking. You're right.
We'll keep that. I can look at the menu now.
I ain't trying to order that. Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to look. I'm just looking.
Just because you don't order don't mean you can't read the menu. Yeah, I'm just looking at the menu..
I ain't trying to order that. I'm going to look.
I'm just looking. Hey, just because

you don't order don't mean you can't read the menu.

I'm just looking at the menu.

Oh, Joe, once I order

you better come take this menu. I might order

again. Come take it.

Don't break with dessert menu either.

She's great.

I mean, I grew up a wrestler. I mean,

I'm from Georgia, so Georgia Championship Wrestling is where it all started. It started in the South.
Wrestling used to be very regional. You had the South, you had the Mid-Atlantic, you had the Midwest, and, you know, it combined.
But my grandfather used to take me and my brother to Baxley. We'd go to Savannah.
We'd go to Blackshear. We'd go all those little Bondelia, and we saw all of them.
I'm talking about the old school wrestlers like Abdullah the Butcher, Arts Baker, Bo Bo Brazile, Andre the Giant, Ric Flair, Greg Valentine, Ricky. I'm talking about you named the old gold guard? Yeah.
We saw them. Tristan Blackwell, Matt, I was in heaven.
I was in heaven to you now. My mama used to wake me up every morning and just watching and wrestling and hollering.
Junkyard Dog was her favorite wrestler. Hey, Junkyard Dog.
She used to go crazy about him, man. Yeah, man.
Those were the days, man. Those were the days, man.
Watching Dusty Rose. Yeah.
Dusty Rose.

Bernard.

Hey, remember Jimmy

Superfly Snooker? Yeah, Superfly Snooker.

Yeah. Oh, man, look here.

Blackjack Mulligan.

All the way. Tully Blanchett.

Hey, remember Hacksaw Jim Duggan? Hacksaw Jim

Duggan, yes. Baron Brombrowski.

Yeah, Nikita Koloff.

Ivan Koloff, the Russian Baron. Mr.
Rasslin, number one and two. Super D, one and two.
The Road Warrior. That was my favorite.
The Road Warrior, when they come out with that hard-and-arm, Iron Man. Hey, hold up, though.
I'm saying back then, did y'all think y'all felt it was real right yeah yeah man absolutely

absolutely

man they get up

man I get cropped

yeah

boy there was a day

boy hey

classic

and soon as it go off

me and my brother

out in the yard

trying to move

on each other

boy don't y'all hurt

y'all damn Phil

roll back

oh yeah the volume I feel. Roll back.
Oh, yeah.