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The seven-seed Warriors are favored over the Rockets to win the series per DraftKings. The Warriors are minus 190.
The Rockets are plus 155. Are the Warriors a lot to beat the Rockets, Joe? I'm not sure if they're a lot.
Now, we're going off experience., then obviously, you know, they got Houston on that. Houston got youth on their side, and they got to use the advantage, man.
They got to make them guys work, but, you know, when you got guys like Jimmy Bullen, Draymond Green, and obviously, you know, Steph Curry, it's going to be tough to beat them, man. They got them role players around them playing great basketball, so that's going to be an interesting series.
There's a lot of series I'm looking forward to, and their Rockets and Golden State is going to be one for the ages. The thing that concerns me about the Rockets, who's your go-to guy? They haven't been in this.
The Warriors have been in these situations. Steph knows what it's like to play championship basketball, to get ready to win a title.
Draymond has been there. He knows what it's like.
Jimmy Butler hadn't won, but he's taking teams to the NBA Finals. He knows what it's like, and they're role players.
Now, I don't know what's going on. Kamingo didn't really play.
Moody got the assignment. So it's going to be very, very interesting because you play with a team that understands what these moments are about and what they're like versus a team that's extremely athletic.
It's going to be Smith, and you got Dylan Brooks, and you got Jalen Green, you got Van Fleet, you got Al Sangoon. He's for real.
Draymond's going to have his hands full with him now. And them boys and them Rockets, they playing hard, man.
You know, M.A. and Doka, he's gonna have them ready now.
They ain't gonna be scared of nothing. No.
I think the fact that they are young, Joe, is why you can't have them as a lot. They play on both ends of the court.
And I think the pressure for them, especially when you're that young,

you're just out there playing basketball.

Yeah.

You're just out there playing basketball.

You're just out there having fun and doing what you need to do.

And I think they have the Warriors to win,

obviously, not only because of Steph,

but because of the experience.

They've already been there before.

But it's going to be a good series.

A very, very good series.

I think it's going to 7-2 now.

Joe, they got a whole serve at home. Yeah.
Talking about the Rockets? The Rockets got a whole serve. They do.
Because that's going to be the confidence booster. If you can win the first two games at home and then have to travel to Golden State to try to get a win.
But, man, I just like that Young Rockets team. They play hard.
They're fearless. And, you know, they know what it's like to play the Warriors.
And because they've played them pretty well this year. Yep.
Hey, Joe, if they come out the gate in general and win the first two games at home, well, it can get spooky. It can get spooky.
The one thing about the Warriors, the Warriors won't panic, though, because they've been here. I remember a couple of years ago, they went down to Sacramento, and they had to go to Sacramento and win game seven, and Steph Curry had one of the great on-time performances.
He dropped 50 on them in a game seven. Yeah.
So the Warriors would not look. You lose the first two games on the road.
All they did was hold serve at home. The series doesn't start until the road team wins a game.
Yep. So all Houston would have done is protect their home.
They did not let the Warriors come in and invade their territory. So we kept them at bay.
Now, can we make an advancement into their territory by stealing a game at home? Now, Rockets are saying all we got to do is just hold serve at home. If we went all four at home, we advance.
The Warriors are saying we got to find a way to get one. All we got to do is get one at home.
Get one on the road. And we lack our chances.
And I think that first game for the Warriors will be probably one of the best games for them to get because their young team in Houston, you know, having to understand you're the two seed, you're the one being hunted. Like, you got to understand and know how to protect that.
And you can't wait to see what the intensity is going to be like before you have to rev it up. Go to state.
They're going to already know. The Rockets, they cannot lose on their home floor.
They got to protect the house. I think it's going to be a hell of a series.
Go to state. We already played a playoff game.
We beat Memphis. Even though it doesn't go towards anything, but that was a playoff-type atmosphere because, hey, the one thing we didn't want to do was fall and now we're out.
So, hey, let's just go ahead and make it live on ourselves. And plus, I think they like their chances better against the Rockets than they do the Thunder.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Hey, listen, listen. I think they definitely will take the Rockets because, you know, they know and understand the moment and they know that the Rockets will be a little inexperienced, even though they're going to play hard and they definitely going to make it competitive.
But, you know, the Rockets definitely got, I mean, the Warriors definitely got the team who I think they were seeking out to get in the playoffs. Yeah.
Joe, let me know what you think about this.

Brandon Jennings, Jeff Teague, Lou Will, and Pat Bell have all gone at it over who can win a one-on-one. Joe, what's your take on this, bro? You know, Pat Bell went to University of Arkansas.
He a Razorback. That's my guy.
Jeff Teague. Hey, Jeff Teague, my guy.
I know Brandon Jennings. But if you're playing against Pat Bev, y'all not going to finish the game, bro.
If you think you're going to outscore that man, hey, man, you're going to have another thing coming. That's why he calling for all the smoke.
He calling everybody out. It's going to be tough, but if I had to take

somebody, I'd probably take Teague.

I think Teague, he's

probably a little younger than all of them, and

he still got a little umph in him. You know what

I mean? He's playing probably pretty regularly.

I know Pat just came from overseas,

but Pat is a disruptor.

You know, he's going to

jump the game up. You

better hope you don't hurt yourself while you're playing him. Like, this ain't going to be no walking the far.
Pass said they ain't got no conditioning. Pass said y'all don't work out like that.
He said, I'm still in the gym. I'm still getting up shots.
I'm still running. So, hey, look, he going to be playing that pressed up, downed up defense on him.
And it's going to wait him down after a while. He's going to take them legs.
That's what he's banking on.

Mm-hmm.

He's going to talk you out your game.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, you want to throw your name in the hat, Joe?

You want some of that one-on-one action?

Oh, whoever wants some smoke, I got it over there for him.

You hear me?

Yeah.

Hey, call me out if you want to.

I heard Brandon Jennings say something, but I can't even.

I don't get no strife for playing Brandon Jennings. I don't get no strife for beating him.
Shit, I'm 6'8", 240. Cut up.
You hear me now? Joe, you going back to the big three this year? Yeah, I'm going back to the big three, man. I just got off a call with them guys yesterday teaming up with the Detroit Amps, coached by George Iceman Gervin.
Okay. Oh, that's live.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm looking forward to it.
I've been playing this. I've been playing this 2019 since I've been done with the NBA, and it still gives me a chance to stay in shape, get to compete at a high level, get to play on a huge platform like the Big 3, I think Ice Cube and his running mates, Jeff and them, they've done a great job with the Big 3, man.
It's been fun to be a part of, actually. So, as we get up in age, man, we still got a little something left in us, man.
We still love competing. That's the one thing that never dies.
Nah, the competition. It never goes anywhere.
And it's hard to fulfill it. It's hard to fulfill it, but for three on three half court, I can do at least about 50.
I can do that. Hey, Joe, for Big Three, right? Everybody is former NBA players, obviously players Obviously as starters Now anybody on the bench coming off the bench Are they just casual people That can play the game of basketball Or no He let a few guys in A few seasons ago But mainly The NBA guys and guys who played overseas, played professional overseas.
Okay, okay, okay. But you know what? Well, being in this different space, man, you know, a lot of these YouTubers, it's a lot of them who got game, bro, and he's actually, you know, let a few of them play.
So it's been fun to see them. It's been fun to see them get a chance to, you know, go out there and compete and have fun and, you know, help grow the game.
I like that. What you think, Unc? Should I get out there or nah? No.
Who, Ojo? Yeah. Ojo, you got some game? No.
Boy, I used to drop, I dropped 56 and a half school my senior year. Every game.
Every game? Every game. 56.
Class 6'8". Miami B senior half.
Timmy ain't be on That line for no reason Man what's wrong with you man I'm joking Hey listen Hey The footage is right there 56 every game 56 every game I can see you Hold on 56 Hey no listen Unc you laughing I'm telling you what I did Now I'm not gonna lie to you Hey you. 56-12-9.
Almost every game. I didn't hit it one lagging because I had a flu.
I had like my own little flu game. You didn't play in college? They should have brought you to play football and basketball.
I couldn't. I couldn't.
I had to focus on one thing because you know if you're going to make it to the highest level and be a one percenter,

you got to choose one thing.

So I chose football.

And actually,

football wasn't even my thing.

I wanted to play soccer.

I just didn't have the resources, Joe.

I didn't have the resources

to play soccer where I come from

and soccer's still my first love.

It still isn't,

you know,

I got stuck with football.

Were you going to play Joe one-on-one?

Who?

Me?

Joe Tula man

I boxed your ass out man

Stop playing with me man

Look

Don't you look man

Listen

Hey one thing about

Hey

Set it up

Set it up

I ain't gonna do a whole lot of talking

Just set it up

Set it up

I fought

Set it up

Chad y'all wanna see that

Joe take on Joe

Joe

Joe don't do it to yourself Don't do it to yourself Hey listen, y'all want to see that? Joe, take on Ocho. Joe, don't do it to yourself.
Don't do it to yourself. I know, Chad.
Chad, y'all want to see that? Yeah, we want to see it. Yeah.
Ocho, you ain't got a chance playing me, bro. I'm going to tell you something.
Now, see, what Joe is doing, he's 6'8", 240, not realizing I'm 6'4", 210 right now, right? I want you to do me a favor, right? Ask Russell Westbrook, ask James Harden, ask D. Wade, ask Carmelo Anthony what happened to them all the time.
They thought it was a joke and they were going to beat me based on size and experience and being professional basketball players. You played them all the time? Got their ass whooped.
Got whooped and I called out names so there's nothing they can say. I'm calling out names.
I got receipts. It's right here on my phone.
But out of respect, I ain't post nothing. Yeah.
Okay. I'm like that.
I don't know, Joey. He said he got them pelts on his wall.
Man, listen. I ain't believe nothing Ocho say.
I got to see it. Set it up.
Set it up. When he come back, when y'all come here to the lounge, just go set it up.
We got to do a whole whole lot. Listen, we don't even have to wait.
I go to Gainesville this weekend. I watch my daughter run Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
I can leave Gainesville Sunday and come to Atlanta Monday and spend a week out there. Is that okay? Hey, Ocho.
Ocho, don't threaten me with a good time, baby. Hey, I like a good time.
Don't threaten me with a good time. Hey, I'm gonna be alright.
Don't threaten me with no

good time.

Yeah.

Hey, matter of fact, Joe, you can

take... I've been asking you to take me

to Magic City to taste these wings. I keep

hearing about the wings at Magic City.

We go to Candyland, too.

We go to 2 Chainz spot. Candyland.
That's 2 Chainz spot. Restaurant.
What you trying to do, man? You trying to hit the city up? Listen, you know, I can count on two hands how many times I've been to Atlanta. And right now...
It all depends on what you're trying to do. Sick.
I'm trying to eat. Oh, hey.
The funny thing, Joe, the few times I come to Atlanta, I don't do nothing. There's a Cuban restaurant on Beaufort Highway that I enjoy.
You close to me. Who? Beaufort Highway.
Yeah, it's a Cuban spot right there. I go to Dan Tanner's to get my cigar.
I sit on the patio. I sit on the patio and smoke.
Well, Dan Tanner's not on Buford Highway. Dan Tanner is on

Peachtree. I just said my Cuban

spot, my Cuban spot I like to go to

and get my sweet plans, my cafe con leche

and my churrasco steak and rice

and sweet plans. It's on Buford Highway.

The other spot I go to is Dan

Tanner's to get my cigars.

I go to the gym and that's

pretty much all I do. Well, Buford Highway used to have

Shooters Alley. I think that closed in Follies was on Buford Highway.
Shooter what? Oh, you was a big strip club guy at home? I just said, I know. I ain't trying to put the business out there.
I'm saying, that's what you do. You like us? You know what I mean? Hey, nah, I have gone in my younger years.
I done got older now. I ain't got no money to, you know.
You just be going across the road. Yeah, you know.
I done been on, you know, back in the day you had to go, you know. Hold on, I'm just catching on.
So Candyland wasn't a soul food restaurant? No. They got some soul sisters up in there.
Yeah. That's 2 Chainz spot.
Okay, okay. I didn't know about that.
When I go, because I've known MASH 25, 30 years, I always patronize him, and now that I know Chainz got a spot, Escobar. You ever been to a 2 Chainz spot on Peter Street, Escobar? No, I ain't been there.
I ain't been there. I'm going to go check it out, though.
Yeah, the food like that. I see 2 Chainz quite a bit.
I ain't been there, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like it. They got some good food.
Hey, hey, I tell you what, when I come back down there, Joe, we gonna hit it up. All right, bet.
Bet. Bet that.
You don't live down there. Joe lives in Atlanta.
I'm from Atlanta. But I've been asking you to take me to Magic City to try to win for like two years.
I tried to take you. You talking about you asleep? I was asleep.
You know, I don't go. I don't go.
I don't go. I don't go.
Listen. Hey, hey.
I love the crowd. I love the crowd.
Hey. Hey.
You go. Hey, hey, hey.
OJ. OJ.
He's not going to make it a thing, man. Come down here and grab a little something.
He ain't going to hit the city, man. Okay.
I'm ready. I'm ready.
Listen. You got to make sure.
Make sure I take a nap during the day. Because if 9 o'clock is...
You got to make sure you take a nap.

You the one who know we got planned?

The hell you talking about make sure I take a nap?

Hey, Joe, it's hard for me, Joe.

It's hard.

I've never been a person that goes out.

You know, even during my younger days.

You know, 9, 9.30, I'm up.

5 in the morning, I'm up.

No alarm clock, no nothing.

So now it's even worse that I'm a little older. I got to take a nap during the day before I even do nightcap.
Well, you go right ahead. Before I even do nightcap, man.
Like, it's bad. It's bad because my body is programmed to be asleep by 9, 9.30.
What time you normally up? 5 a.m., no alarm clock. Yeah.
No alarm clock at all. I didn't go for the music.
And the wings. Nah, no, no.
I'm telling you, the food and magic be like that. I went to another one.
We had lamb chops. What is we had, Jordan? Turkey ribs.
Oh, he got some turkey ribs? Hey. It's different.
It's a little different around here. I know the food be fine at all.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Them lemon pepper. Where do I got them lemon peppers from Magic? Yeah.
Hey, you know what I just thought about? Man, Joe

living in Atlanta. That's

almost as bad. Hold on, hold on.
I don't want to say

nothing wrong. Joe, you're not married, are you?

I ain't married, but I'm happy, Ocho.

Okay, okay, okay.

I just, I'm listening.

I was just going to ask you

how you're able to maneuver in a city like that

with the aesthetics

and the visuals.

It's like living in Houston.

I got great self-control and discipline.

Yeah, me too.

I run a high yoga studio, Ojo.

Oh, that's even worse.

Yeah.

The temptation right there

in front of you.

I done done all that, Ojo.

Yeah, you done done all that.

Joe, how old are you?

Forty-what? I'll be 44 in June.

We were getting where we

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That's terrifying. That's fair.

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I would love to see that.

We're on our way.

I hope so.

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Yeah, see, I'll be 57 in June, Joe. Damn.
Okay. Yeah, I'll be 57.
Yeah. June what? June what? 26th.
Are you canceled? Yeah. I'm the 29th, man.
I knew something about you. What the hell was? I knew something about you.
That's what I'm talking about. What the hell? What I'm talking about.

Hey, I knew what I'm talking about.

What are you, Ocho?

Huh?

What are you?

What you mean with that man?

My birthday.

January 9th, 1968.

Capricorn.

Man, it's my son's birthday.

For real?

My son, man.

18 years old.

His birthday is January 9th.

Hey, that's my dog.

Boy, you a wild boy, though.

You a wild boy.

I know you a wild boy.

My son at the 8th.

Thank you. For real? My son, man, 18 years old, it's birthday January 9th.
Hey, that's my dog.

You a wild boy, though.

You a wild boy.

I know you a wild boy.

My son is 18.

I know you. Hey, hey, hey.

No, I ain't wild no more.

I ain't no.

Listen, listen.

I just got saved not long ago because the last one was wearing off.

So I'm good now.

I got baptized.

Good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I've come a long way because But I tell people all the time, the best teacher in life is experience. And I haven't been through it all, Joe.
I haven't been through it all. I haven't, I haven't sat down.
I didn't, you know, I haven't, I haven't. You've come a long way, but you got a long way to go.
You ain't finished. That, that too.
That, that too. Yeah.
I'm a you. Right, right.
I'm happy. What you gonna do, baby? What that? Man, man, man.
We happy over there, man. When you on? Yeah, yeah.
What you doing? Hey, Joe, I still want to know who Michelle is. I know.
Hey, hey, listen.

Listen.

We all... We all...

Everybody trying to figure it out, but...

I ain't going to get you business like that.

I ain't going to get you business like that, man.

But we want you happy, though, huh?

You know, for a nominal fee, we'll have an unveiling on Nightcap.

Uh-oh.

How much?

I don't know, Chad. What y'all

can conjure up?

But here's the thing.

Even if she were to reveal herself,

y'all gonna say that ain't her. So

what we doing?

Why would we do that? Why would we think you would love it?

Y'all would believe... You guys would believe it.

But the Chad's not

gonna believe it. I mean, if her name

is Michelle and she shows ID and proof, there's really no way anybody can go against that. It's all about having receipts.
But they're going to say that ain't that Michelle. He just found somebody.
Well, actually, we can play the video and ask her to recreate the sound and we'll be able to tell if that's her or not. I think you should do that do that reveal.

What's he weight about 220 he said?

Nah.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

I mean

I gotta start doing

I'm starting doing

me 300 push-ups

and be able to have

220s again.

Hey, we about

we about the same size right now

How much you weigh right now?

Me and you?

How much I weigh right now?

Yeah

255

Okay

Okay

Okay

Man, no way you weigh

You ain't closer than that

Nah, hey, Joe

There ain't no way you're closer than that too

All muscle too

All muscle too

You do realize we the same size, huh? Man, please. Man, I will stand up, but I ain't going to do it to you.
No. Because, you know, I'm really in the gym really hard, right? I'm really in the gym really hard because when we do a live show.
When we hit the show, we're going to know. We're going to see.
Oh, no. You know, when we do Baltimore, I'm coming out with no shirt.
I'm coming out with no shirt. And then, listen, Ash, I know everybody can hear, right? Yeah.
When Unc and I come out for the Baltimore show, we have to play the whistle from Omar on the wire. That's how we come out.
Oh, you're deep. Hey.
Yeah. No shirt, no, just, just

Hold on

How you happy? How you trying to come out there

With no shirt on?

Omar coming

I'm talking to you, Ocho

Oh, me? What happened? What you mean?

Why you trying to come out there with no shirt?

My baby say, can I come out with no shirt? She say, I can come out with no shirt Hey, I mean, you know, we good, we good I'm just trying, listen I'm trying to show off the work that I've done The discipline Okay The structure You told me, you told me I couldn't get as big as you I'm almost there And June is two months away Ocho what do you see point to point look at your clavicle look at mine look at your shoulder look at the caps on your shoulder look at the caps on mine you do understand my shoulders look like this because I'm aerodynamic no you can be aerodynamic all you want to Joe is forward to spare man

Listen

We have

We have different

We have two different frames

Two totally different frames

Yes

You know

Yes

Yeah but I'm just saying

But what I can do

With the frame I do have

I can put on as much weight

And as much muscle

No you can't

As much muscle as possible

Ocho

You only gonna be so big

A cheetah

I don't care how much

Meat a cheetah eat He's never gonna weigh As much as a lion or a tiger. That's not his makeup.
Right. That's not your makeup.
Okay, but I'm going to get big. I'm going to get big as possible.
Just like I couldn't be your weight. If I'm your weight, I'm three months past dead.
Yeah, he's going to look sick. The first thing first night he gonna say, oh, he on that

zipping, oh, he got that thigh, y'all.

He able to...

Hey, Ocho,

you think he wasn't used to having muscles if you don't

flex, huh? Yeah, man.

Yeah, you know. You gonna come out with your shirt off

and bonkers more than that? Man, shirt, listen,

I'm telling you, you're not understanding. Ocho, you're 46.

Talk about taking off your shirt.

Who for?

What's wrong with taking off my shirt?

Man, set your old laugh down.

Oh.

I look 23.

What you talking about?

I look young, though.

I look young.

I feel young, too.

What I look like?

I'm fidget silver coming out of the shirt.

We're two grandkids.

Hey, but hey, both of us. Come out there with no shirts on.
In Baltimore. You nervous.
Don't be nervous. You wasn't nervous when you was on camera.
When? With Michelle. Oh, there you go.
Joe, you faced LeBron in the playoffs many times. Is there a difference between regular season LeBron and playoff LeBron? Yeah, yeah, it is.
It's definitely a difference. He definitely revs it up a notch, and you can always count in a series, he's going to explode.
He's going to have one of them games. I remember playing in Brooklyn when we played them.
They dropped that 49 on y'all. They won the first two games in Miami.
We won game three in Brooklyn. And game four, he really had 50.
He missed the free throw at the end. Missed the free throw at the end.
Was that the game that Paul Pierce said he wanted it? I don't remember. I know.
Now, don't get me wrong. Paul take the challenge.
Now, he's a competitor. He was an ultimate competitor.
And I'm sure he probably started off on him. He probably did.
But it was, hey, listen. It was just like we played great defense and he'd make a tough shot.
It was like, damn. Like, you just realized how special he was, man.
Like, he had that one game that just kind of took us out of whack. You look at them now.
They got three guys that can handle the ball, can facilitate for everybody else, but they can also go get their shot. We know Luka.
Luka has the second highest scoring playoff. He averages 32 points a game.
He increases. If you look at all the great players, look at their regular season and look at their postseason averages, it increases.
Look at Jordan. Look at Kobe.
Look at LeBron. Look at KD.
Look at Steph. That's where you make your money.
So LeBron understands he has a great situation. And like, there's never been a series on his own team that LeBron was the second best player right think about that the guy that has 42,000 points more playoff points than anybody in the history of the game and on most nights he's going to be the second best player so who do you send to him it don't matter who you send to him he's going to find a way to manipulate the game to where he's very effective whether it be 13 14 assists 17 18 rebounds anywhere from 20 to 25 points he's going to dominate the game in every facet so y', everybody got Luka as the best player on the Lakers right now? He is, Joe.
Yeah. He's the best.
I'm going to tell y'all something. I think Bron is going to really take, like, I think he's going to take the initiative.
His game to another level? Yeah, man. I think he's still going to be great.
I think Luka is going to be, he's definitely, you know, going to be great as well. But Bron is going to cause a lot of haggard, man.
I think people are kind of just overlooking him because him and Luka are teammates. Right.
But I see him putting up some great performances this postseason. Right.
But, Harry, you know what I'm thinking? I think what Luka done, I'm not going to be shocked now that LeBron plays 25 seasons. Because guess what? He got somebody to handle the ball.
He got somebody that can handle the scoring. If he's off, he and AR is going to be.
I can see LeBron maybe one more year had Luka not come. But I can see LeBron playing two or three more years, Joe.
Oh, definitely. Definitely.
Because he don't have a huge load on him offensively to where he has to score 30 a night. See, now he can sit back and average 22, 24 points a night and, you know, still be super effective, you know, helping A.R.
and helping Luka just being that decoy just by being out there on the floor. Yeah.
And the funny thing about it, if Luka does have off nights, it won't happen often. LeBron can actually pick up the slack.
And they still need to be. I'm going to keep saying that.
That's a wrap. They going to have to be strapped.
The old show. This postseason, they going to have to be strapped.
They got what they got. And they going to have to play like five guys where they switching a lot and just causing causing havoc.
That's how they're going to grow. That's it.
But they got guys that can make tough shots. AR has played unbelievable, averaging 25 and 4, played great.
We know what Luka, we know what LeBron are. The question is, what can we count on consistently? Can we count on Dory or Finney Smith to give us somewhere 12 to 14? Gabe

Vincent, can he hit two or three big-time

threes? Vando, can he play great

defense and give us six to eight points?

Jackson Hayes, bro,

hey, we need you to keep

watch the glass

because we're not going to run plays for you.

Hey, you're going to need to be a

lob threat, and we need you to get it

out the rim. Yeah.
I think those guys definitely understand their roles and they understand the timing of everything at this point and the opportunity that's ahead of them. In the worst case, they won't have to see OKC into the Western Conference finals.
I think they're in pretty good shape. They control their own destiny.
They can come out and, you know, put up.

Do what they're supposed to.

Yeah, do what they're supposed to.

They'll be all right, especially take care of home.

Baylor has to replace their entire basketball team.

Every single person that was on the roster from last season left the school.

Nine of the 14 are in the portal.

Joe, how we fix this? We see the kid from Tennessee. I'm a lever.
You should have known by the name. I'm a lever.
He did. But Joe, I mean, you see, he's going to get 2.4.
Now he wanted four. I don't believe he's going to get that.
It seems like UCLA, nobody's going to give him that because they're like, where are you going to go? So now, Ocho, remember I told you, I sure hope he got a $4 million offer lined up because if he, whoever advised him, his dad, his agent, his cousin, whomever, they did him a disservice. Yeah, they did.
And obviously for a minute, I thought normally especially somebody like that, if you're as good as you think you are, or you snatched up the next day, it's not a problem. It got to a point where I thought the college were in cahoots.
I thought they were in cahoots trying to prove a point and not give him a deal or not sign him. You know, because most of the time, all the money is already taken care of.
All the money is accounted for. Yeah.
At this point. But obviously, him going down to the UCLA, I'm sure they gave him something.
I know it's nowhere close to four. No.
You ain't got nowhere else to go. Why would I give you that? He should have stayed at Tennessee.
Exactly. We're living in different times, man.
We're're living in different times I don't even know how do you fix you know the NIL because what it seems is it's just no loyalty in it you know guys are just going wherever the bag is if you tell me you got a bag on them no this is what the coaches do coaches do it all the time they do get a bet off somewhere, they out. I know, man, but these are kids, and it's hard to, you know, at 18, 19 years old, man, making these type of decisions, bro.
Right. Like, you know, this is tough because once you get there, if you go in there for the money and it don't turn out how you plan, then, you know, you can only blame yourself.
Right. But I couldn't imagine, man, could y'all imagine, you know imagine the money being like it is in college when y'all was coming out of high school? Can you imagine going to college and they enticing you with this type of money? What would it be like? I ain't going to lie to you.
I'm going to take less money to go to a place that's going to... Why would I go to a team to run the wishbone if I'm a receiver? I'm gonna go somewhere they're gonna showcase me.
Because at the end of the day, yes, I want to get money, but Ocho, I want to go to the NFL. College was not my ultimate destination.
The NFL is. So if I go to a place that don't highlight or showcase what I can do, I don't even think some of these kids are thinking about the NFL right now.
They're not. Because you know in football, you got to go to school at least for three years anyway, right? Yes.
So they're not even thinking about the NFL. They're just thinking about how can I make the most money right now as a freshman, sophomore, or junior, whatever the case may be.
And it works out for some, but it's going to hurt a lot of them guys, man. But you know, a lot of times, Coach O, when we grew up, it didn't take a whole lot of money.
It didn't take no means for us. Hell, you could have gave us $10,000.
No. Everybody make $10,000 a year.
Do you imagine somebody just hand me $10,000 and say, we're going to give you $1,000 or $2,000 a month. You know what? Man, stop playing.
I guarantee you when you get out of the house with running water. The next day.
Hey, I got that Pell Grant every month for $2,900. Boy, I thought I was balling.
Hey, balling. Yeah, I should get a Pell Grant.
I get a Pell Grant every month for $2,900. I should send my mom about $1,400.

Keep the rest.

I'll be balling for a couple weeks.

Next, you know, you look up, you'll see me in the Catholic.

Yeah, I'll be back in that.

I'll be back in that. You can tell when everybody got their work.

We got work study.

We didn't get a pair of grain.

We got work study check.

Everybody, they going to get in the wing. They eating that Red Loft.
They going to rise to get that buffet. Gym two weeks.
Everybody got them trays up in that line. Hey, that was me.
I ain't going to get the line. Boy, look, I was eating out, buying shoes, clothes.
It getting low, you'll see me in the calf. Don't worry about it.
What's up, guys? Hey, yeah. You know, my junior year, my brother go to the league.
So, you know, hey. Ah, man.
Y'all better have something good, cab, if y'all want to see me. If y'all got some bull job up in there, ah, nah.
I'm going to McDonald's. I'm going, hey.
I eat, I, uh, uh, because we had a Burger King, like it was walking distance on campus. Right.
Yeah. 99 cents.
Remember those waffles? 99 cents? Yeah. I used to go to Winters, get them 99 cent cheeseburger, double cheeseburger.
Yeah. Yeah.
I know somebody at Sonic, go over there, get me a little slug. Let me get you a little slug.
Don't act like that. Hey, the favorite place, we had a little off-campus spot called the Blue Note.
Wings. They cook wings.
They cook gizzards. They cook livers with that Texas toast.
Yeah. And there was a young lady who used to work there named Wante.
I get on that payphone. I'm like, hey, yeah.
I'm like, is Wante there? This you, Shannon? Yeah. I said, Wante, hook that..
I said, Wante, hook it up for me now. Okay.
Don't tell nobody. Hey, I ain't tell nobody till like 15 years after I had left Savannah State.
Y'all were going to go for the bus with my hustle. Oh, you did it for sure.
Hook me up. No, I'm telling you.
Hey, when you were in college, boy, hey, it was a struggle. Hey, you had to get in good with somebody who worked at one of the best food restaurants.
Man. Oh, I had a plug at the McDonald's.
Sid Hillary used to hook. Oh, she was assistant manager.
Hey. Big Mac, 20-piece nugget, large fries, super-sized fries.
I could eat back then. I can't eat that now.
I could up, but I'll be sick. Be hard to get up off you now.
Yeah, I can't eat like that. That's why I don't know how Ocho ain't hollering about some McDonald's he be eating all the time.
Ocho, Joe, check this video out. This is the guy getting a haircut for $1,000.
He got his haircut for $1,000. But look at the barber.
What do you want? He went to the barber shop, huh? But look at the barber, though. Look at the barber.
Man, please. Man, I wish I might.
But she messed up his head. Did she mess up his head? I don't care what she did.
I'm not paying no thousand dollars for no haircut.

I mean, what else come with it?

I don't want it.

Okay.

I know something else come with it.

I don't know.

Is it a female who cut his hair?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Man, he got a suit bowl.

Nah.

I come for a service.

I want that service.

That's it.

Right. That's it.
But we don't know what. If I'm coming to get a facial, I want the facial, and I'm out of there.
I'm getting the hair. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Joe cuts my hair, so I'm good on the haircut.
But massage therapist ain't no happy in it. Ain't none of that.
No? Hell no. Nah, I'll tell you.
That's how you get in trouble, bro. Hey, listen.
I don't even do massages I didn't do massages when I was playing I think it's to me I think it was all of my thing I think it was all of my thing I didn't do massages the only thing I did Joe that cold tub and contrast back and forth five minute hot three minutes cold minutes cold, five minutes hot, three minutes cold. That's it.
Don't, don't, don't, don't touch me. Don't stretch me.
Don't nothing. No, I had to get that work.
I had to. I don't know.
I don't know. Hey, I thought, I thought it was all mental.
I thought if it's for me, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Yeah.
Don't tell me when I'm in a stretch line, Don't tell me to stretch. Don't tell me to stop talking.
Don't tell me to stop playing around. This is my same routine.
Stretching, that was time to be joking. That was time to clowning.
I was already loose before. I had already done my little stretching before I got out there.
So that was my time to choke. That's all that time was.
The bag, hey, who we getting on today? Who we making fun of today? That was that stretching time. Hey, everybody else did what they supposed to do, but nah, that was a bull job time for me.
Right. Joe, what these barbers doing, man, this Joe was charging.
Look, y'all not professional athletes and entertainers. Y'all trying to make $100,000 or $200,000 a year cutting hair? Well, it depends on who they cutting, huh? Yes.
Now, this is not this right now. This is just content.
Now, there are barbers that, you know, barbers, barbers to the stars, barbers to the athletes, barbers to the celebs that do charge a heavy penny for the people that they cut because they got to travel with them. They take it, they take it away from other clients that they could be doing because they force their barbers to go on the road.
But I'm saying, okay, for certain situations, yes, I'll fly my barber out here, but he's been cutting my hair for 30 plus years. But I'm talking about just casually, like, oh, my boy in charge.
Oh, hell. Absolutely not.
Yeah, nah. They don't got it.
What'd you say, Joe? I ain't heard of that one to where you just like, oh, man, my homeboy cut you up. He charges $1,000.
Nah. Ain't no such thing.
Man, I start cutting my own. Yeah, yeah, hey.
Go get it. Get you one like this, man.
Get you one like this. Hey, but hold up now.
We got to understand. We're at different times, boys.
I remember I used to pay $5, $10 for a nice cut. Hey, $2.
In college, $2.50. Hey, who cut? I wish I would have played somebody back in the 80s.
$20 to cut my hair. Yeah.
$2 in college. Mud.
Dude named Rough House, Coop. They were the team barbers.
$250. And most of the time, that was on the IOU.
One of my teammates in college, Teddy Gibson, he used to cut hair. I didn't really have no problem.
That's my partner.

He used to cut my hair.

My brother used to cut my hair. He'd come home,

he would cut my hair. He's like,

hey, man, I'm going to cut you up. I said,

when did you start cutting hair?

You ain't even

have no clippers.

But I was a guinea pig.

I let him cut.

Yeah, but I mean, we used to go to the... I mean, when I was coming up, haircuts was like, started out like $0.75, $1.50, $2.
I got to college $2.50, $3. Then when I got to Denver, haircuts was like $12, $15.
Damn. We long gone from them days Oh yeah Man do be want $15, $20 For a pot Listen Listen These are the times that we're in right now The price of everything is going up Eggs, milk, haircutscuts, hoo-ha, whatever, everything.
You say that hoo-ha? Everything. What did you say? You say that hoo-ha? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That cost too. The price of that would have too.
It's high at 2025. It's high at giraffe head.
Everything. Yeah, man.
Hey, like my little agent probably said, I can't do it. We were getting where we couldn't pay the bill.
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That's fair. Joe, Regional Vice President, PG&E.
We have to run the business in a way that keeps people safe, but it starts driving costs down. I would love to see that.
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Shelly Ann Frazier Price, she does it again.

In the parent day with her son, she smokes the other parents.

Let's take a look at the video. Hey, that is so funny.
I mean, why are you even running? Hey, I wouldn't listen. The rest of the parents got to be, got to be whoever come in second place.
That's all I want to do. And guess what? It ain't no men, ain't no men that could outrun her.
So don't say, don't worry about it, baby. I'll take care of it.
Don't worry about it. She dust y'all too.
Hey, that was dope. That was dope.
She gonna dust y'all too. Hey, can you imagine, can you imagine your mom, your mom, your parent being Shelly Ann Fader Price and you come to school and it's's field day.
Oh, yeah. You're winning.
And the parents got to participate. Oh, man.
Oh, but that got to be one of the greatest feelings. Oh, yeah.
That got to be one of the greatest feelings. All the races, she winning.
With the softballs thrown or the Kroger sack races, you got to check. Mm-hmm.
I don't know. Joe, you in front of the country, so we had the sack race the sack race I got five already I was always going to win that because most of them kids they never didn't know what a croaker sack was so I know they were Joe they had never been in one being from a farm I knew what a croaker sack y'all call them burlap bags we call them croaker sack y'.
Y'all call them crocus sacks, Joe? Uh, yeah.

Hey, Ocho.

I know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

It was more like some, we had more like some potato sacks.

I don't know what it was.

Yeah, same.

Yeah.

We call them crocus sacks.

That's it.

That's what it is.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

I was a monster in that.

What?

I was a monster in that.

Ocho, you thought I had jackass in me the way I was hopping. Huh? You thought I had jackass in me the way I was hopping You thought I had jackass in me the way I was hopping Joe And then You know we had a two man So everybody You know I'm saying Ocho You have like the leg You put your leg One leg in there Somebody else put one leg in there They always put me with somebody's slope.
Yeah, that's because you probably was a cheat code already. You know what I mean? If you're not in unison, you're going to fall.
You got to be in unison when you're hot. That's why we're going to fall.
You slow. Man, you know back then, Ocho, I hate to lose.
Because we got ribbons. you know what I'm dressed.
Man, you know, back then, Ocho, I hate to lose. Oh, yeah.
Always. Because we got ribbons.
You know what I'm saying? Hey, grand air pop. Ribbon? Ribbon? It was like a dollar.
Yeah. Back then, you know, soda.
You can get a soda. You can get a soda for like a quarter.
Yeah. You got those wise potato chips.
You get those for 15 cents. You got candy bars like 15 cents.

So $1.50,

man, I get me two sodas.

I get me the wine for 10 and chips.

I get a payday or a Snickers,

a zero.

Man, you're good.

And we got ribbons.

So, you know, we got first, second, and third place.

Yeah.

How I'm going home with six blue ribbons

and a red or a pink because I got a sorry teammate. Hey, that's your...
Man, I hated that, man. I'm trying to get all...
I'm trying to take all blue ribbons home. As a matter of fact, I think I still got some of the ribbons, too.
Man. Well, you keep everything, huh? I do.

I got clothes.

My grandma kept,

I got a pair of overalls

from when I was about three years old.

I got a jacket

from when I was like four or five years old.

Them suits that I told

that my mom bought me

and my brother for Easter

that made us look like

John Travolta on Saturday night.

You still got them?

I still got it. My grandma kept everything.
Dang it. Yeah, my grandma kept everything.
You ain't got none of that. All right, now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q&A. Q& We ain't got no sound.
Damn. Tide Deputy Sheriff says, if you could take one part of your game and give it to a current player, who's getting the upgrade? Joe, if you could give somebody your game, who you giving it to?

If I can give somebody my game,

a current player? Yep.

Give them a part of your game.

Oh.

Damn, I don't know.

I gotta really think about them.

I got some...

Who you giving the ISO to? Yeah. I'm saying he is.
It's some guys who I think, I mean, definitely in this playoff who kind of already got it. And I think.
Shea. Not only Shea.
I like Cade Cunningham in Detroit. Oh, he nice.
I like him. He poised and patient.
He's a big guard, 267. Can create, can score, can create for his teammates.
I think that's going to be a great series, man, for who they're playing, the Knicks. Oh, yeah.
That's going to be a great series for Detroit. Yeah.
Yeah, so I like Cade. I'm looking forward to watching him play in this postseason.
Dexter Jones said, Ocho, if you bet $346 on the Lakers to make it to the finals, it will pay out $5,200. And ask Joe what he thinks about these one-on-ones and if he wants to smoke.
See, Ocho, all you got to do is bet 346.

The Lakers make it to the finals.

Right.

I like it.

Or you can take your phone right now

and download Cash App

or you can download PayPal

and I can send you your money right now

while we're still on the show.

Ocho, I don't...

Ocho, I tried to download it.

I can't.

Thank you. PayPal, and I can send you your money right now while we're still on the show.
Ocho,

I tried to download it. I can't.

You don't want to...

Can't shouldn't even be in your

vocabulary. I know you learned that when

you were young.

They want to know too much information. They want to know

your bank account. They want to know where you stay.

They want your address.

They want to... Yeah, I already know.
No. I'm going to school, Ocho.
He ain't going for all that, man. I know it's all good.
Listen, I'm going to see your money with a pigeon carrier. How about that? I'll take it.
Write me a check

I'll take a check

You got checks?

Absolutely not

Man, it's 2025

Ain't nobody writing no checks in 2025

You don't write no checks?

Hell nah

Oh

I take checks

Personal checks

Traveler's checks

I got you Cashier, yeah, cashier's check. Yeah, go to Western Union.
I tell you what, send my money to Western Union. Okay, they take too long, but I ain't going to that window.
And they're going to charge you a mean fee too. Yeah, uh-uh.
No, they're going to charge him a mean fee. They're going to charge me nothing.
I'm just going to go up and collect my money. I'm just going to go up and collect my money.
I'm going to take the fee out your money. I ain't worried about it.
Hold on. I'm going to take the fee out of my money.
Because you're sending me to an institution that's charging me to send you money. So I'm taking the money out of your fee if I got to pay it.
That don't make no sense. You should already pay me my money.
If you, okay. Thank you.
It'll be cool. Joe going to beat Ocho, then hit Magic City for the wings.
Joe in 30 seconds. They going to 11.
He going to beat him 11-0. He might get lucky and make a shot at 2-0.
Yeah, you know, I doubt it. Hey, you know what was funny? Is the fact that y'all don't understand that I'm a better basketball player than I am at any other sport and you really think you're going to beat me is hilarious.
Like, it's hilarious. I mean, and I mean no disrespect because you that boy.
You always been that boy. When y'all coming to the house? When y'all coming to the house? I told you, my daughter played me.
I ain't been play one thing I do and one thing I'm great at is when I talk I back up everything I say so what's your best asset as far as like what you? Like, what you good at? What's your best attribute? Off the dribble, create space. Off the dribble, create space.
Create space. Yeah.
I'm like, hey, listen. You're going to think I'm going west and I'm going to send your ass east.
Okay. You got the right one.
You got the right one.

And listen, you tall, you 6'8", too.

Because once I get you moving one way, if you lean.

I ain't no big man.

I'm a big guard.

I'm a big guard.

I don't care.

Add Tracy McGrady what happened to his ass.

Add Tracy McGrady what happened to him.

You gave him that work?

You gave him that work? Hey, gave him that business. You hear me? He didn't know.
He came, he came to me after the game. Like, why a nigga hoop like that? Yeah, I could have played in the NBA, but I chose to do something else.
You're lucky. Interesting.
I really like that. King Govan, your old Joe.
Joe gonna have you touching the hardwood like he did Paul Pierce and Leon Pope. Peter J.D.
Young says, Uncle Nocho and Joe, can you please give a shout out to my wife, Cherish? She keeps making our house a home while being a tremendous mother. I want her and the world to know how much I love her.
We absolutely would do that for you, Peter.

Cherish.

Peter wants you to know that his life is complete because you're in it.

Not only you're an outstanding homemaker, you're a tremendous wife and a mother.

And he says, you know what?

There's not a world where he doesn't see himself loving you. You got something special, Cherish.
Cherish it. Peter, thanks for reaching out.
I like it, Peter. All right, Peter.
Cedric Jr. said, hey, Uncle and Joe.
Today is my fiancee's, Danae's birthday. She's turning 26.
Can you guys wish her a happy birthday? We absolutely can't it. Darnay, happy 26th birthday.
Yes. Happy birthday.
26 years and a lifetime together with said and happiness. Hopefully y'all did something very, very special today.
Hopefully you got a nice gift, but at the end of the day, the most important thing is you two have each other. Congratulations.
Happy birthday. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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I appreciate y'all for having me, man. Hey, I look forward to us getting a developer relationship, man.
I like that. So I appreciate y'all, man.
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Oh, I didn't say I didn't drink. I might.
I see you. I see you working with me now.
Hey, don't act like that. Oh, Joe, Joe.
Joe, get that in. It's quick.
Oh, Don't act like that. You know what I mean? Hey, let me get some of that La Porte.
Let me see what it's hitting on. All right.
I got you. I got you.
Hey, look. I don't need to be on here asking y'all what's up.
Hold your, send me some of them cigars, man. Let me see what I'm saying.
Oh, I got you. Say less.
All I need is an address. Okay.
Put me in the game, coach. Put me in the game, baby.
Oh, he other cigars coming too. He got some Daniel Marshalls and some...
Hold on. Hold on.
Matter of fact, you talking to Kenyon? I haven't. Well, listen.
Hey, Joe. And the 70 gauge.
Yes, lunatics. Lunatics.
He got them 70 gauge lunatics. Hey, hook me up, man.
Nothing that's going to put me out of my misery, man. I'm just,

hey,

I got you.

Hook me up.

I got you.

I got,

hey,

when can your mom go send me my stuff?

You need to talk to him.

Hey, listen,

I,

I hate to have to tussle with him.

I hate to have to beat his ass.

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