Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Justin Jefferson returning to practice after 25 days!

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Speaker 15 Hey, hey, um

Speaker 15 yes, you heard me.

Speaker 16 Hey, I got um

Speaker 16 right now I got chills, chills on the inside. You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 15 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 16 But I got the AC off, but I'm cold on the inside. And that is that's crazy.

Speaker 15 Oh, Joe, I talked about this a little earlier, but while you was trying to connect,

Speaker 15 Cam Ward gets into a scuffle with Jeffrey Simmons at camp. I like that.
Ward threw a touchdown pass to Cavin Ridley towards the end of practice and went over to celebrate.

Speaker 15 The rookie quarterback stopped and gave Simmons a shove before doing his trademark Zombieland celebration in front of him. Simmons reacted with a two-hand shove to Ward's face mask.

Speaker 15 The offensive line came running to Ward's defense.

Speaker 15 You like the Cam Ward picking a fight with Jeffrey Simmons?

Speaker 16 Yeah, absolutely, because it's nothing serious. It's nothing serious.
They've been going at it the past two weeks.

Speaker 16 You know, there was an altercation between Jeffrey Simmons and Cam Ward earlier in camp.

Speaker 16 I think when the defense must have been beating up on him real, real good, and Cam shot back at him. So them having fun going back and forth.
I mean, it's cool. It's cool.

Speaker 16 It's all camaraderie. You know, and I think it's going to pay off, pay dividends when they have to play against somebody else.
Obviously, Cam Ward has looked phenomenal.

Speaker 15 Let me ask you a question. Drinker or Patrick shivers you, two hands shivers you to your face mask.
You cool? You walking back to the huddle?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I don't think you did it that hard.

Speaker 15 I just asked you a simple question. The man, two hands, shivers you to your face, mask, are you just turning around walking to the huddle? It's a simple yes or no.

Speaker 16 No, no, no, no, no. We're going to have a little fun.

Speaker 15 We're going to have a little fun.

Speaker 16 You have to understand that there's a report there. And obviously, when you see it, you understand, okay, that's lighthearted.
That's them two boys going at it as far as from a competing standpoint.

Speaker 16 Not I'm shoving your face trying to knock your head off. Is it different?

Speaker 15 Man, look here.

Speaker 15 That's a D-linemer. Anything a D-linemer do? Yeah.
Because think about the moves they use to get to try to beat the offensive lineman, don't you?

Speaker 16 Yeah. oh hold on hey this is just not any d lineman this is the yeah i'll be a preeminent dt yeah they listen they've been going at it all camp so

Speaker 15 all right we gotta have one another one uh coach prime punishment for any player that hits the quarterback for players who violate the rule consequences range from up down to stadium runs ocho

Speaker 15 this old school way of coaching considering the nil guys jumping in and out of transfer portal is getting harder and harder to coach players because hey you talk what you talk sideways to me.

Speaker 15 I'm up out of here. You think this will

Speaker 15 work with time?

Speaker 16 Hey, absolutely. Absolutely.
Because listen, even if players can't jump in and out, even if players can't jump at the portal, people want to go play for Deion Sanders. This is Deion Sanders.

Speaker 16 This is Deion Sanders. So you understand what that comes with.
You understand the discipline that he expects out of you to be at your best.

Speaker 16 So if it comes down to having to run goddamn stadium stairs, if you hit the quarterback, then so be it.

Speaker 16 Because if you get into a game, if you do it in practice, then you're going to do it in the game.

Speaker 16 So if it takes running the stadium stairs and doing whatever else you need to do to get that out of your system, like Shamar Stewart with Joe Burrow last week, you know,

Speaker 16 it so be it. Because they're not going to tolerate it the next level, so don't tolerate it here.

Speaker 15 I agree.

Speaker 15 Ocho, are we living in the golden age of the National Football League? Percentage of games decided by seven points of pure.

Speaker 15 The historic average is around 45, about 46%.

Speaker 15 Look at where it is now.

Speaker 16 39.

Speaker 16 Now, when we talk about these averages. No.

Speaker 15 From 1970 to 74, it was 39.23%.

Speaker 15 20 to 24, it's almost 49%.

Speaker 15 That's almost a 10% tick up.

Speaker 16 Wait,

Speaker 16 that's a good thing, ain't it?

Speaker 15 Yes. Okay.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. It's the golden age.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 No blowouts. The games are coming down to the end.

Speaker 15 It's a one-score game.

Speaker 15 That's what we're looking for. We're looking for a one-score game.
Not that what we saw in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 16 Oh, you know, you know what's funny?

Speaker 16 I don't think we don't have any more teams around right now that are able to dominate offensively week in and week out where there are going to be blowouts.

Speaker 16 Even though the NFL in general is favored for the offense.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I think that's, it was done on purpose to make the games a little bit more fun, to allow the points to be a a lot of people like points. Hey, yeah, make it no different than home runs in baseball.

Speaker 15 I ain't going to look here. Then they changed the purpose would say, Oh, you're in baseball.
People, the purity say, Man, I want to see a one-nothing ball game. I want to see a left-12-11.

Speaker 15 That's what I want to see.

Speaker 16 With home runs,

Speaker 15 you know, NBA, yeah, people want to see 133 to 130. Ain't nobody trying to say, I remember the game used to be 77, 72.
Right. Man,

Speaker 15 four quarters. Right.
Now you got guys scoring 70 points by themselves when the team in four quarters couldn't get to 70. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 15 So points,

Speaker 15 they've made it more conducive. Right.

Speaker 15 Because now you look at baseball, home runs, this going this way, batting average going that way. Strikeouts going this way.

Speaker 15 But they want to see the ball go over the fence. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Basketball, they want to see the ball go in the hoop. That's why they keep jacking up threes.
In football, they won't scoring. Yeah.

Speaker 16 That's why they handicap the defense, too, huh?

Speaker 15 Protect the quarterback, protect the receiver.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Entice them to throw the football.

Speaker 15 Because if I'm paying the guy 60 million,

Speaker 15 I'm paying the wide receiver 40. Think about it.
The highest-paid running back is basically making $20 million less than the highest-paid wide receiver. So, what does that tell you to try to do, Ocho?

Speaker 15 Throw the damn ball. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 15 And your quarterback making $60, $55, $60. I'm not paying Joe Burrow no $55 million

Speaker 15 to have him turn around and hand the ball off 35 times a game, Ocho. I'm not doing it.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 16 And you understand why he's in the gun 98% of the time.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 15 So that's what the league wants to see, but I'm glad. Unless somebody, you know, you turn the ball over.
Now you turn the ball over, Ocho.

Speaker 15 The game can get out of hand like we saw with Kansas City in the Super Bowl. But normally, if it's not, if it's a, you know,

Speaker 15 teams are right there comparable.

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Speaker 15 You're going to get a good game. You're going to get a good game.
But I do think we're in the golden, we're going to get

Speaker 15 the golden era of football. Oh, Joe, DraftKings been the NFL team of the best nicknames of all time.
Who should be added? Okay, you got the Honey Badger, Tyron Matthew.

Speaker 15 You got Ted Hendrix, who is the mad stork, Sean Merriman, lights out. You got Hacksaw, Jack Reynolds.
You got the Tasmanian Devil.

Speaker 15 You got the assassin, Jack Tatum.

Speaker 15 You got Prime. You got Ed Tutal Jones.

Speaker 15 You got the fridge,

Speaker 15 William Perry. You got the kitchen, Nate Newton.
You got the Minister of Defense, Reggie White, rest his soul. Dick Knight, Terrain Lane, rest his soul.
And then you got Andre Bad Moon Rising.

Speaker 15 You got Big Phil, Highway 63, Gene Upshaw,

Speaker 15 Bag of Donuts, Pork Chop,

Speaker 15 The Intellectual Assassin. I don't know about him.
Megatron. Megatron got a cool.
Legatron. Beast Mode.
Broadway Joe.

Speaker 15 the Face Cleaver, and the Avatar.

Speaker 16 Jimmy Graham? Is that Jimmy Graham as the Avatar?

Speaker 15 Yes, yes.

Speaker 16 I mean, listen, all of these NFL nicknames are good.

Speaker 16 They're all good, but we all know who the best nickname is of all time.

Speaker 15 They ain't got you up there, OJ. Oh, that's defense.
I guess we got to ask them. No, they got offense.
They got offensive Andre Risen.

Speaker 16 Yes, and Andre.

Speaker 16 Yeah, they had nicknames, but I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name and reinventing myself in the prime of my career.

Speaker 16 That was from a branding, marketing aspect, so which makes it obviously the greatest nickname of all time because I really bought in to the character in general, and that character in general has carried me years beyond the game of football.

Speaker 16 Hell, I ain't took a snap in goddamn 37 years,

Speaker 15 but

Speaker 16 these are all. I mean,

Speaker 16 I like the intellectual assassin. Who is that that played played for the Chargers?

Speaker 15 Is that Ron Mix?

Speaker 16 The intellectual assassin. That's a good one.

Speaker 16 Hey, you know, they don't even have, they don't, I mean, they don't have Walter Pay. They don't got sweetness on there.

Speaker 16 The intellectual asset. But hey, listen, Ocho Cinco.
I mean, it speaks for itself. Greatest nickname of all time because I actually, I was 8-5, and when it changed the name, huh?

Speaker 16 I saw a vision. Like when I do spoken word, there's a vision.
There's a bit long term where if you're not in deep thought with me, you're not going to understand it.

Speaker 15 Who's the intellectual assassin?

Speaker 15 I ain't never heard of it. I mean, Bambi.

Speaker 15 Who is Bambi? Which Lance Allworth?

Speaker 16 Where's what?

Speaker 15 The Chargers.

Speaker 16 Okay, okay, okay. Oh, he did.
He ran. He ran like he ran like a.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 He was.

Speaker 15 jack tater was the assassin yeah yeah no the intellectual assassin

Speaker 15 the chargers he was the charges

Speaker 15 john uh uh uh uh

Speaker 15 jack tater rest his soul he's out of ohio state

Speaker 15 i thought it was ron mix

Speaker 15 i think he played i think uh uh Ocho, I think he played like 12 years and had two holding penalties in 12 years.

Speaker 16 That's it?

Speaker 15 Yeah, thank you. That's exactly what I said.

Speaker 15 Jeddah, Justin Jefferson returns to practice. His first time in 25 days, he continues to recover from a left hamstring strain.
He suffered last month. He has a history of hamstring injuries.

Speaker 15 He missed seven games in 2023 because of a hamstring strain to the other leg. Prompted the the Vikings to take a slow approach towards recovery.

Speaker 15 Today he participated in warm-ups, individual drills, but sat out 7 on 7 or 11-11. Jefferson won't play in the Vikings final preseason game, but do expect to start week one.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 He got some imbalances or something. He needs to get that looked at.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 What do you think it is, especially when it comes to soft tissue injuries like that, Alex?

Speaker 16 Where do you think that comes from? Because I don't think he has an injury history.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 he don't look like he quad dominant. Sometimes if a muscle overpowers the other, other, it will pull it will pull.

Speaker 15 So if you know you quad dominant sometimes or something, so he might, I mean, he might need to get his hips, he might be out of line or something.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 If you're fatigued, the muscle, you know, weak, weak muscles pull. Right.

Speaker 15 But I mean,

Speaker 15 you're dealing with elite athletes, and so I know they have the best physio and the best everything around.

Speaker 15 He might, you know, maybe his mechanics are off or something, but he might need to take a look at that.

Speaker 15 Hey,

Speaker 16 I'm not going to say nothing. I'm not going to say nothing.

Speaker 16 Obviously, you know my stance when it comes on to soft tissue injuries, when you know my stance on when it comes to getting hurt, but we know how valuable Justin Jefferson is to that team.

Speaker 16 And I'm glad he took 25 days and they went slow with him. I think he's a player that training camp would be beneficial, but to get him back 100% healthy.
So he's a speed one.

Speaker 16 He's not one that needs training camp like that. But I don't want him having to go from zero to 100

Speaker 16 without having to wear and tear that training camp ring because what's going to happen?

Speaker 16 You get to get him pulled and pushed.

Speaker 15 That tug.

Speaker 15 That's why I used to say, hey, guys, man, don't tug me. Yeah.
Hey, if I beat you, just let me go.

Speaker 15 I'm pulling Ocho and you tug me. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Now I'm going to turn around and swing on you.

Speaker 15 That's a tough division because we saw the Bears and you and I both think the Bears are going to be better this year than they were last year.

Speaker 16 Absolutely.

Speaker 15 You believe you say,

Speaker 15 the Lions, I don't see them taking a step back. No.

Speaker 15 I don't. Then the Packers.
You like the Packers. Jordan Love, that receiving court, Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 15 So that is a very tough division. You could ill afford.
Now, they're already going to be the first three games.

Speaker 15 They're going to be without Jordan Addison because of some issues that he had off the field. So they're going to be without him.

Speaker 15 And the last thing that you need to happen: a guy coming back from a soft tissue injury and he retweaks it because now he's probably going to be down double the amount of time that he missed to begin with.

Speaker 16 Exactly.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I hope he gets healthy. I hope he stays healthy because

Speaker 16 I want to see him on the field.

Speaker 15 Bless you. Thank you.

Speaker 15 That man doesn't cover it. He covered his mouth after he done sneezed.

Speaker 15 Hey, shoot. Excuse me! Like, damn.

Speaker 16 It creeped up on me. I didn't know it was coming.
I ain't know what's coming.

Speaker 15 Oh, you didn't know what's coming, huh?

Speaker 15 No,

Speaker 15 he looked me a little pure ale.

Speaker 16 What's that?

Speaker 15 Pure ale.

Speaker 16 Why are you using that? I'm all the way in Miami.

Speaker 16 I may get you sick. I'm all the way in Miami.

Speaker 15 Hey, boy, that thing you got right there that they said, you might have Ebola.

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 15 I ain't lie on you. That's what they say.
They said they died in Liberty City. Say a monkey.
Say a monkey got escaped. Yeah.
Say the monkey had Ebola.

Speaker 15 Say one of them dudes from Liberty City bit the monkey. The monkey bit him.
He had Ebola. Right.
And the monkey died.

Speaker 15 So the monkey got Ebola. He beat the dude from Liberty City.
What he got?

Speaker 16 Okay, you right. You right.
You right. It ain't no telling.
Ain't no telling.

Speaker 15 Ain't no telling. I'm just trying to figure out how you sneeze and then cover your mouth and say, excuse me.

Speaker 16 It snuck up on me. I didn't know it was coming.

Speaker 16 like that's what happened when you really when you're really sick you don't you know i feel like i got a fever i thought you didn't get sick how you getting sick and you eat fast food you ain't supposed to get sick remember i know it's probably i'm probably going to be like this under one day a matter of fact you can hear my voice i sound like barry white tonight you hear most of the time when i talk i had i got a high a high pitched squeaky voice but tonight i sound like like really sexy like for radio nah I'm just trying to figure out, you told me,

Speaker 15 chat, y'all done heard this man say eating them big masks and eating all that fast food. he don't get sick.

Speaker 15 I just tried to figure out what's really going on. That's it.

Speaker 16 Well, technically,

Speaker 16 I'm not sick.

Speaker 16 I'm still here. This is a minor setback.

Speaker 15 Are you sick? Did you not say you sick? You just told us when you signed on that you was sick. Yeah.

Speaker 15 I'm good. So are you or are you not sick? Yes or no?

Speaker 16 Yes, at like halfway, because if I was sick, I wouldn't be on here. So I'm able to do, I'm able to work, so I'm not sick, sick.

Speaker 15 so there's a difference so if you work from home if if you work from home and sick and you can't work right

Speaker 16 something really going on yeah yeah i i understand but some people some people when they get sick sick even if they are home they can't do nothing they can't function see i'm fighting through it i'm fighting through it my body on the inside you know my immune system they in there like this right and they in there going to work So on the outside, I'm cold.

Speaker 16 But on the inside, I mean, on the inside, I'm cold but on the outside i got the ac off and i'm sweating but on the inside i got chill i mean it's weird so this doesn't happen to me often that like at all so i'm gonna be all right though i'm gonna be all right though man and ojo you know what i i hate i hate when guys i'm i'm a firm believer if you limp into season ocho you know how you coming out of it limping out of baby You're limping out of it.

Speaker 15 I just hate that. I hate that for Joe.
Because, man, you talking about off to a historic start?

Speaker 16 Absolutely.

Speaker 15 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 16 i think i think it's gonna continue though i think it's gonna be all right it's gonna continue

Speaker 15 i i don't i don't like i said that's that's an extremely tough division um

Speaker 15 you could ill afford to have him and addison out plus you got juk jj mccartney who's in his second year but this really is first year starting right you're asking an awful lot

Speaker 15 You're asking an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out there

Speaker 15 and to do what you need him to do

Speaker 15 when I just wanted to. So

Speaker 15 I just hope Ajeta can stay healthy for the entire season.

Speaker 15 They're going to need him. They got no chance.
They got no chance. Remember,

Speaker 15 KJ Osborne is in Washington.

Speaker 16 Washington now, yeah.

Speaker 15 Addison is going to miss the first three. And then, you know,

Speaker 15 he warmed up today, but like you said, he didn't do 707. He didn't do 11-011.
And he's not going to play in the final preseason game, which is Friday or Saturday. Right.
So, boy,

Speaker 15 and it's just to turn, hey, and then in 10 days, just go. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I'm hoping he's going to be all right.

Speaker 15 You too? Because, like I said,

Speaker 15 he's on a historic pace. Yeah.
Historic.

Speaker 15 The numbers that he's put up as far as yards, as far as catches, it's just.

Speaker 15 We haven't seen anything like it.

Speaker 15 We haven't seen anything like it. And

Speaker 15 like I said, I mean,

Speaker 15 he's going to have to go see some specialists and see what he's doing wrong that causes the keep causing these soft tissue injuries.

Speaker 15 Because, you know, another guy, you know what? He need to call Joey Galloway. Ask Joey Galloway what he did.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Joey, Joey, Joey was hurt COVID.

Speaker 15 See, Joy was a speed guy. Joy running 4-2.
Yeah. Joy running too fast.

Speaker 15 So we got, like, are we going to burn him out in practice? Or are we going to let him take a couple of plays and then say that for the game? Right, right, right.

Speaker 15 I think Isaac Bruce dealt with some hamstring injuries also.

Speaker 16 I'm not sure.

Speaker 15 So that's definitely a situation that he might need to go. Hey, hey, guys, you know, y'all dealt with some hamstring injuries.
How did you go?

Speaker 16 How did you go about it?

Speaker 15 You know, yeah, how did you play such a long time and get over those?

Speaker 15 The base started on IG. Which year had the best quarterback class?

Speaker 15 2018, you got Mayfield, Darnell, Allen, and Jackson versus Joe Burrow, Herbert. Woo! 2018, 2020, Ocho, what you got?

Speaker 16 Hey, that's a good one. That is a good one.

Speaker 16 That's a good one.

Speaker 15 You got three MVPs

Speaker 15 in one draft class.

Speaker 15 And you got a guy that's been to the Super Bowl. And a guy that's been to the Super Bowl twice.
You got two guys have been to three Super Bowls. Yeah.

Speaker 15 And one guy's won one. and one Super Bowl MVP.
So what you going with, Ocho?

Speaker 16 Ooh, that's hard.

Speaker 15 God damn it, that's hard.

Speaker 16 I mean, listen,

Speaker 16 I'm going to have to go with 2020.

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 16 there's one Super Bowl champion down there. There's one Super Bowl champion down there.
Listen, I know. Lamar winning MVP, Josh Allen winning MVP.

Speaker 16 But I think Josh Allen MVP is like, here, damn. It's one of those, one of those moments.

Speaker 16 But yeah, I got to go. I mean, the ultimate goal at the end of the day is to win a Super Bowl.
Joe's been the one.

Speaker 16 He didn't win it because they cheated us on their fourth and one call on Logan Wilson.

Speaker 16 That wasn't past interference.

Speaker 16 That wasn't past interference.

Speaker 15 Or Eli Apple on what you call him on

Speaker 15 a...

Speaker 16 No, I'm talking about Logan Wilson on Cooper Cup on that.

Speaker 15 Yeah, come on, Ocho.

Speaker 16 Nah, nah, nah, nah. Other than that, I'm going gonna go to I'm gonna go with 2020 yeah 2020.

Speaker 15 I think you almost have to because if you look at player for player okay

Speaker 15 better quarterback class

Speaker 15 just better just to just

Speaker 15 it's harder than you think

Speaker 15 yep but Sam Sam Darnold messing it up for 2018. Right.

Speaker 15 Baker's had a resurgence.

Speaker 15 You look at Baker, what he's done the last two years. Josh Allen, outside of his rookie year, has been sensational.

Speaker 15 Lamar Jackson came in, even as a rookie, off the bench, and he's been sensational since the day he's got there.

Speaker 15 Ooh, man, damn. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 16 I like it a lot.

Speaker 16 Like, I got to go with Jalen simply because he got what everybody is yearning for. And the ultimate goal when you you get the training camp.

Speaker 15 I got to agree with you. I mean, if you go play, if you go player for player.

Speaker 16 Now,

Speaker 16 you can get ridiculous with it and move the goalposts and try to say skill and arm talent.

Speaker 15 Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, and then now that changes things up when you start getting a little bit more detailed

Speaker 16 in who the the better class is. But again, people will move the goalposts based on their preference and what they like in said quarterback.

Speaker 15 Each class got a number one overall pick.

Speaker 15 Baker was number one. Joe Burrow was number one.

Speaker 15 Sam Donnell was number three.

Speaker 15 Justin Herbert was what, number six?

Speaker 15 Sam Donnell was three. Justin Herbert was what, six? Six.
Six. Jordan Love was like 20, 20, what, 26?

Speaker 15 Josh Allen was seven. Lamar Jackson was 32.
Jalen Hurts was in the second round.

Speaker 15 And I didn't even know Joe Tua.

Speaker 15 Oh, Tua was in the 2020.

Speaker 15 Wow.

Speaker 15 Tour was in the 2020 also.

Speaker 16 He was?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Remember,

Speaker 15 he went before Herbert. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Can they catch 1983?

Speaker 15 Ooh, I don't know. I don't know about that.

Speaker 15 Because

Speaker 15 1983, you had Elway in the hall, Jim Kelly's in the hall, John's in the hall. So you got three Hall of Famers there.

Speaker 15 John went to five Super Bowls, Elway went to one Super Bowl, Kelly went to four Super Bowls. So that's ten Super Bowl appearances.

Speaker 15 Damn.

Speaker 15 I don't think these classes are going to catch that, Ocho.

Speaker 16 Nah.

Speaker 15 Who else in the

Speaker 15 Todd Blackledge didn't do too much?

Speaker 15 Ken O'Brien

Speaker 15 was that draft, too, right? Because he went to the Jets.

Speaker 15 John went one

Speaker 15 to the Colts

Speaker 15 Kelly East O'Brien Berena

Speaker 15 yeah

Speaker 15 Tony Eason uh went to he went to New England

Speaker 16 Tony Eason

Speaker 16 that's a Tony Eason what not a lineman is he no he's quarterback quarterback yeah okay

Speaker 15 hey my a

Speaker 15 Well, hey, they already got more MVPs. 2018 already got more MVPs than 83.

Speaker 15 Because Lamar got two

Speaker 15 and Allen got one, so that's three. They only got two in 83.
Elvway got one, Marino got one. Right.

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Speaker 15 Let's go over here, 2018 versus 2020.

Speaker 15 And they didn't even put two in there. Nah.

Speaker 15 Oh, Joe, which duo are you taking? You taking sweetness and AP?

Speaker 15 You taking Jim Brown and ED?

Speaker 15 You taking Barry Sanders and Marshall Falk? Or are you taking LT and Emmett?

Speaker 16 Is that AD and Sweetness?

Speaker 15 Yep.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm going AD and Sweetness.

Speaker 15 God, bad, man. Look at, look at, man, look at Jim.
Man, Jim Brown went MVP as a rookie.

Speaker 15 I hear you.

Speaker 16 I hear you. But I saw AJP in his prime.
I know. I'm going with all day and sweetness.
No disrespect to Barry. Barry's the real deal.
Ladania Thompson was the real deal.

Speaker 15 That's a good one.

Speaker 15 That's a good one.

Speaker 16 I like AD. And matter of fact, AD and sweetness is really basically the same back.

Speaker 15 Man.

Speaker 15 I'm trying to figure out how you're going to tackle Marshall and Barry on turf.

Speaker 16 You not.

Speaker 15 You not.

Speaker 16 And listen, the first man is going to miss every time.

Speaker 15 That's hard.

Speaker 15 Because Jim Brown and E.D., they are running backs.

Speaker 15 Don't throw it to A. Hand it to him.

Speaker 16 Downhill.

Speaker 15 30 times.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I like sweetness in ED, man.

Speaker 16 The boy was.

Speaker 15 boy, that's a good one.

Speaker 15 That's a really good one. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Who are you picking? Who are you going with?

Speaker 15 Man, all them touchdowns, I mean, Emmy got like 160-something touchdowns. LT got about 140.
They got about 300 touchdowns between the two of them. Right.

Speaker 15 I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking Barry.

Speaker 16 Barry and Hammett?

Speaker 15 Barry and Marshall.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 16 Okay, okay, okay. I like it.
I like it. It's so funny.

Speaker 15 Can you imagine Barry with this spread in the spread off him with one back, just Barry?

Speaker 15 And they got nickel defense on the field?

Speaker 16 All right, that wouldn't be fair.

Speaker 16 Do you realize we have yet to see a back like that till today?

Speaker 15 You'll never see another back like him.

Speaker 16 Never seen nothing like that.

Speaker 15 You could make a case that Shady McCoy might be the closest thing we've seen to him. Yeah.

Speaker 15 but the two-foot stop is what separates back.

Speaker 16 Come to balance, yeah.

Speaker 16 Nah, we're not going to see that.

Speaker 15 Just throw. If you come to balance, you're not tackling it.
Nah, at all.

Speaker 15 If he stop and you stop,

Speaker 15 I would just say,

Speaker 15 let him go on pass. You got to throw.
You got to take your shot. It's basically like a point, like they teach you on the punt return, Ocho.
Go ahead and throw. Don't come to balance.

Speaker 16 Yeah. You got to shoot.

Speaker 15 Got to shoot your shot. Yep.

Speaker 15 Browns officially named Joe Flacco start of week one. The 40-year-old Ocho will be making his first week one start since 2022 when he was with the Jets.
TBD on the rest of the depth chart.

Speaker 15 Kenny Pickett has not played since July 26th. Dylan Gabriel nursed the injury.
He came in, played Saturday. Shadur Sanders started the preseason game.
He's got an oblique injury.

Speaker 15 He did not play Saturday. And Snoop Hundley was the guy that

Speaker 15 they signed to get them through camp. Adam Schefter said this morning i expect cleveland browns to carry four

Speaker 15 quarterbacks on the roster yeah well

Speaker 15 are you surprised they're going to carry this many quarterbacks on you i mean it's it's

Speaker 16 i'm not surprised it's not something that teams normally do they do not yeah when you need a position you know that they can they can play elsewhere especially on special teams yep so it's gonna that that hands having four quarterback is going to take a job away from someone else you're absolutely right someone else is going to have to do double time on different positions because they're keeping the fourth quarterback.

Speaker 16 So, I mean, listen, this is, this is, this is rare, but I understand the problem that they are having.

Speaker 16 But hey, listen, I said Joe Flacco was going to start. I don't know the order in which the backups are going to be, but

Speaker 16 I mean, at any point when Joe Flacco was not playing well, we know what he can do.

Speaker 16 He's going to get you on a five, six game running, winning streak, going all over the place, looking crazy. Then all of a sudden, goddamn, the bottom.

Speaker 15 The bottom is going to fall out.

Speaker 16 Yeah, the bottom is going to fall out. You ain't going to know what's going on.
So

Speaker 16 I'm excited for the Browns. I know one thing.

Speaker 16 Week one,

Speaker 16 we going down there to Cleveland, out there in the water.

Speaker 15 Oh, man, that don't even count to no victory.

Speaker 16 We're going to put up 50.

Speaker 15 You should.

Speaker 15 I tell you what. What? Man, I don't know if you've seen Miles Garrett.
He's been bending the edge, Ocho.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, he, we, Miles Garrett is gonna be Miles Garrett no matter who he's playing.

Speaker 16 We're gonna, we're gonna lock that up.

Speaker 15 Okay,

Speaker 15 oh Cho,

Speaker 15 uh, every team's number quarterback since the start of the 2020 20 of the 2020 season.

Speaker 15 Look at this:

Speaker 15 Cleveland had 11 quarterback starts since 2020. The Saints, nine, Washington, nine, Colts, eight, Broncos, eight, Giants, eight, Bears eight.

Speaker 16 Hey, it's so funny. I saw two people were complaining on Twitter today.

Speaker 15 Maddie. What did they complain about?

Speaker 16 Mad at myself and you for saying that Drew Brees is the reason why the Saints aren't doing well.

Speaker 15 Because they see

Speaker 15 they chose it.

Speaker 15 You didn't hear the conversation. You didn't hear what we were saying.
No, they took out. When you have a quarterback like a Breeze, like a Manning,

Speaker 15 like a

Speaker 15 right

Speaker 15 they're so good for so long and they don't get hurt the last thing that you want to do is tick them off by taking a quarterback early to be the bridge coach belichek was thinking but he he was starting to build the bridge too early yeah

Speaker 15 that's what we mean so breeze was so good for so long they're like well he gonna play forever

Speaker 15 And when it, a lot of times, Ocho, it's like, when it go down heel, it go down fast. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. And you saw with Breeze, I mean, you look at, look at Breeze the year before.

Speaker 15 And then the next thing he gets Nick, and it's over. Yeah.

Speaker 15 But what we got, we ain't got nothing, Ocho, because we hadn't taken a quarterback in so long.

Speaker 16 Since winning.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Same thing with Peyton Manning.
Peyton Manning that had not missed the start.

Speaker 15 Yeah. He gets Nick.
He plays the rest of the season. He has surgery in the offseason.

Speaker 16 Ain't the same since.

Speaker 15 so that's what we mean by that. We're not blame.
I'm just saying we're not blaming him,

Speaker 15 but

Speaker 15 because quarterbacks and organizations don't want to kick that guy off,

Speaker 15 they're hesitant to take a quarterback,

Speaker 15 especially drafted high. Now, you take a guy in the sixth or seventh round, fifth or sixth round, that ain't no threat.
You take one in the first or second round, that's a threat to him. Yeah.

Speaker 16 Now you're looking over your shoulder.

Speaker 15 Remember when Coach Belichick took Jimmy G? Oh, yeah. What did Mr.
Kraft instruct Coach Belichick to do? Trade him.

Speaker 16 Get him up out of there.

Speaker 15 That's what we're talking about, guys.

Speaker 15 NFL players will no longer be punished for using a bow and arrow celebration. Eagles,

Speaker 15 old outside linebacker,

Speaker 15 how you said it, Jalen?

Speaker 15 Jalix Hunt was fined $5,600,

Speaker 15 well, $5,700 for using a bow and arrow celebration in the Super Bowl. But that's something the league will no longer penalize, according to referee Lan Clark.

Speaker 15 It's a weapon.

Speaker 15 Cupid, whoa back your boyfriend.

Speaker 15 What you think, Ocho? You like it?

Speaker 16 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 16 Let them have some fun. Let them have some fun.

Speaker 16 By all means.

Speaker 16 By all means. You know, know, I'm all for it.
As long as you don't do any gestures that have to

Speaker 16 do with these,

Speaker 16 none of this.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 No six shooters.

Speaker 15 Six shooters. And no throat slash.
Remember the throat slash. See, they used to let you do the throat slash.
They won't let you do throat slash, no bobahead.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Outside of that, man, just let them boys have some fun, man.

Speaker 15 Oh, Joe, we got great news. Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two.
Cam became the first SEC player to record a 2,000-yard passing season, a 1,000-yard rushing season.

Speaker 15 He had 2,854 yards, 1,473 yards rushing. He accounted for 51 touchdowns, 30 passing, 21 rushing, one receiving, while helping Auburn go 14-0 and winning the national championship against Oregon.

Speaker 15 Cam swept the major college football awards. 2000, he won the Maxwell, Walter Camp, the Manning, the Davio Bryan, AP Player of the Year, as well

Speaker 15 as the Heisman Trophy. Ocho, I just got a simple question.
Talk to me. Why won't Carolina show that man the love that Auburn is showing you?

Speaker 16 I'm not sure, huh?

Speaker 15 I'm not sure. He said, remember, I think we did a topic, was it last year, that he took his son and there were no pictures of him on the wall at the facility?

Speaker 16 Oh, that's right. He did say that.
He did say that.

Speaker 16 I don't know, huh? I don't know. That's something we would have to probably ask him

Speaker 16 that internally. I'm not sure how things are.

Speaker 15 No, we have to, you can't ask Cam because Cam don't know why. We need to ask the organization.
Yeah. Kepper.

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 ain't no telling. Ain't no telling how things ended with Cam, even though we came back.

Speaker 16 It's no telling. You'll never know.
Especially for a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things that he did for the Carolina Panthers. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Took him to the Super Bowl. One of the MVPs.

Speaker 15 Rookie of the year.

Speaker 15 Pro Bowler, all-pro.

Speaker 15 But that's amazing. Congratulations, Cam.

Speaker 15 Very deserving.

Speaker 15 I can make a case that's the greatest college season for a quarterback. I know Joe had, I know Joe's numbers.
Right.

Speaker 15 But Joe ain't putting up those numbers with the receivers that Cam had.

Speaker 15 He ain't doing that.

Speaker 15 And I don't know. I think he had one.

Speaker 15 I don't think he had an offensive lineman. I mean, did anybody play more than a year in the NFL?

Speaker 15 On Cam's team? On the offense? Because I know he had a defensive lineman that went like, i think top 10 uh to the the lions

Speaker 15 but if you look at his offensive weapons and what he was able to do yeah

Speaker 16 well cam was a real deal back then man cam was was crazy with it

Speaker 15 i mean off the chain yeah

Speaker 15 i don't know if we'll ever see uh uh

Speaker 15 lamar had an unbelievable season I mean, the year he won the Heisman. Well, actually, the year that he finished, that he, the next year, he was even better than the year that he won the Heisman.

Speaker 15 If you go back and look at it, yeah,

Speaker 15 because he threw for like 3,500 yards and had 1,500 yards rushing.

Speaker 16 That's crazy.

Speaker 15 But congratulations, Cam. University of Auburn, no one else will be able to wear the number

Speaker 15 two.

Speaker 16 That's live.

Speaker 15 Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 15 Hey.

Speaker 15 Alpha Body said, Ocho sounded like Keith Sweat.

Speaker 16 What he, he making fun of, he making fun of my voice?

Speaker 15 So you sound like Keith Sweat?

Speaker 16 Nah, I sound like Barry White tonight.

Speaker 15 Kepper No Wood Jr. said, uh, I have the Bengals going 10-6 this season, but they lose to the Broncos in week four.
I agree, Kepper.

Speaker 16 That's funny.

Speaker 15 Aaron Owens says, I don't know who's softer, Charmin or the Bengals defense. Bengals defense.

Speaker 16 Relax. Relax.
Y'all relax. It's just the preseason.

Speaker 16 Just the preseason.

Speaker 15 Let's not get it. TJ Ryder said, hey, Trey Terry for Trey.

Speaker 15 They don't need another receiver. They ain't fit to play no receiver.

Speaker 16 Another receiver?

Speaker 15 Man, they ain't going to have no $100 million receiving core. They already got a $70 million receiving core.

Speaker 16 Hey,

Speaker 16 he's trying to play Madden. He's acting like it's Madden.

Speaker 15 Apache Hall said, Unconocho, in wrestling, the word receipt means when your opponent hits you too hard, you owe them a receipt by hitting them harder.

Speaker 15 Is there anyone you played with or against that you felt you owed a receipt? Yeah.

Speaker 15 Brian Cox, when he was with the Jets.

Speaker 15 Brian Cox.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Brian Russell when he was with the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 15 Oh, he got me too, though,

Speaker 15 when he was at Minnesota.

Speaker 16 Not me out cold. I'm talking about out cold.

Speaker 16 I was on the field like.

Speaker 15 Oh, you was reaching for that rope?

Speaker 16 Yeah, man. He got me good.

Speaker 16 That was my only, that was my only, that was my one and only.

Speaker 15 Man,

Speaker 15 I'll never forget this, OJo. And hold on, I'm trying to think what year was it? It was 99.
Uh-huh. And Greasy threw a pick, and I'm chasing and I see him.
I was like, man, let me go get.

Speaker 15 I think Vic the Green picked it.

Speaker 15 Man, I took like two steps

Speaker 15 parallel to the ground.

Speaker 15 I'm in the era and I'm cursing. B.
Cox, I know that was your dirty ass. Ain't nobody.
And he told me, man, how you know it was me? I said, because

Speaker 15 how you know it was me? Because I know it was you.

Speaker 16 Hey, that's funny.

Speaker 15 I know it was you.

Speaker 15 Uh,

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Speaker 15 Thank you guys. Ocho, thank you for getting your internet working.
We really appreciate you joining us tonight.

Speaker 16 Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

Speaker 15 Now I'm going to be up there. I want to thank you in the chat because you make it all worthwhile because without you, this doesn't even happen.
It doesn't even mean anything. So thank you guys again.

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Speaker 15 Joe Flacco officially named starter. for the Browns.
No surprise there. I'm up.
He's Ocho. We're off the next couple of days.
We will see you on Thursday, right? Thursday.

Speaker 15 Peace.

Speaker 15 Break. We got a break.

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