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Travis Hunter Ocho saw action on both sides of the football in his preseason debut, the Jags versus the Steelers.

On offense, he had 11 snaps, two two receptions, nine yards.

On defense, he had eight snaps with zero targets.

Ocho, I might have to get a couple of old jobs like you because the way they got these games spread out and how you're going to have to pay damn near.

You basically got to pay to watch each individual game, Ocho.

I mean, listen, you know what you can do?

You can use YouTube TV.

You can use YouTube TV where you get most of the games.

And also, I have the NFL app on my phone.

So the NFL app allows you to be able to go back and forth through some of the games you want to.

You can't see them all at the same time.

But it's just the preseason, it's just the preseason.

So it's kind of difficult to be able to watch the ones you want to watch based on location.

Right.

And where they are.

Most of them are regional games.

Right, right, right.

But once the regular season gets in, you know, you'll be able to watch multiple at one time, especially the one o'clock games, obviously the 4.30 games, and then those that are slated at 7.30.

Right.

But he did have 11 snaps, two receptions for nine yards.

Nothing deep, nothing significant.

He gave up leverage on one play.

He'll learn.

These guys are really good.

Hey, if you got leverage and he had leverage and let the guy bounce outside,

you ain't catching those guys.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

You got to maintain your lane of responsibility and integrity.

But like I said, it was, you know, I just wanted to see what, you know, we saw what we saw.

What it wasn't, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, how do we rate it?

He caught two passes for nine yards and he had eight snaps with no targets.

Yeah.

I mean, the the one thing is kind of

not nitpicking.

One thing that he will learn, too, on the two passes that he get, he did, he did catch.

I call it, I always call it that Marvin Harrison.

Remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison always having that under, that short

six yards and coming in?

He did so well in college that the players and the DBs in college didn't do.

They would overcommit so much, he'd be able to spin out the back door.

He'd be able to spin out the back door.

But now, now that you're at the next level, they don't overcommit.

They come to battle right away and they make the tackle.

So he's trying to get away.

But you got to be careful with that too, Ocho.

Because you know the big guys.

Yeah, you try to get a lot of people.

You know, the big guys trailing now.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, hey, hey, because what happens when they see that ball thrown?

What do they do?

They coming.

Yeah, they're coming.

But this is the thing you got to remember.

He's coming from outside the in and trying to spin back outside.

Yes.

TB is out of control, but most of the time they're not out of control.

No.

So they were under control.

listen you you you you split the man in half when you attack coming to tackle right you always hit the target so i mean you keep your up and you you don't let him get on your outside shoulder because a lot of times like you said they over commit and the outside shoulder inside the man now he spins out now you see as long as my outside shoulder is free i can tackle you bingo yeah yeah so and that's it that's it he'll he'll see it'll be much more difficult to be able to do some of those tricks that you did in college because these were out of control.

They overcommit.

They attack in the inside shoulder.

You know, and all you got to do, once you spin back, it becomes a foot race and you run it down inside.

Racing to the corner.

Now I got my inside hat.

I got my stiff arm free.

The stiff arm, you'll pick up yards.

But yeah, those are things that, you know, as you play at this level, you will learn a lot of the tricks of the trade.

You'll know when to get down, when you can fight and struggle for extra yards.

Because I'm telling you, those big guys and those licks hurt.

When them 300 pounds hit you, that's different than a DB tackling you now yeah because he hitting he putting helmet on you and

he putting 300 pounds

exactly yep so um and on the on defensive side like i said he just had that one uh that one play that i saw that he gave up leverage but other than that nothing you know really major to write home about i don't think it's going to be really hard to judge him ocho unless he gets significant snaps you know what i'm saying and they give him an opportunity and we see him we see them like game plan to get him to football

it's It's hard, being he caught two passes, nine yards.

Yeah, listen, I thought, I thought obviously the hype around Travis Hunter,

second round, I mean, second pick in the draft, I thought they were going to feature him a little bit, but obviously

they allowed Trevor Lawrence, they allowed the offense to flow.

Whatever they gave him,

they didn't feature him.

First play of the game, Bryant Tarman Jr., goddamn hitch on the right side.

Then I thought they would come to him at some point and just get him acclimated and then get him going.

But nah, nah, they just waited.

When the opportunity presented itself, they threw in the ball.

And, you know, it was simple.

Yeah, me personally, I think he's going to spend more time on offense than defense, but hey,

that remains to be seen.

But I do think you'll probably get a lot more.

You will see a lot more of Travis and what he's capable of doing once the season starts.

I don't think they're going to, you know.

try to prove any point or make anything, you know, do anything, have him do anything spectacular in the postseason.

Because the thing is, Ocho, I want to, you know, you try to keep most of your stuff under wraps.

Yeah, we got you.

I don't want to show you too much in the preseason because these games don't mean anything.

I'm just trying to get timely.

I'm trying to get the guys, you know, get the guys in football shape.

Because here's the thing: now, with three games, you play the third game.

Now you got a week in between when you play again.

It used to be, you know, Ocho, we played that Thursday, Friday, and guess what?

We was playing the following Sunday.

It's not like that anymore.

So now you play.

Now you got another week in between before you go play.

And so I'm just trying to get the guys as conditioned as I possibly can, let them know what is going to be expected, you know, the timing and all that stuff.

But I think Trav is fine.

Like I said, 11 snaps, two receptions, nine yards, eight snaps, zero targets.

He got 19 snaps, which is

probably about what you would think if he was just a rookie playing on one side of the ball.

That's probably what you thought he would get.

19 snaps.

Yeah,

I'm excited for him, man.

But the most outstanding thing in the game happened when Jaguars kicker Cam Little

nailed a 70-yard field goal as the first half expired in Jacksonville's preseason open against the Steelers.

That would have broken the NFL record had it been the regular season.

Justin Tucker kicked a 66-yard field goal to beat the Lions September 26, 2021, at Ford Field.

Now,

it's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside because you got control conditions.

You don't have to worry about wind.

You don't have to worry about rain.

You don't have to worry about anything.

That field goal that this gentleman kicked looked like it had been good for him about 72 because he boomed it.

Yeah, he did.

He did.

He boomed it, though.

He boomed it.

And look, I don't care.

I know it's preseason, it doesn't count.

Well, you go out there and you go out there to the high school field and kick a 70-yarder.

I mean, listen, it's very difficult.

I i don't think people understand how far that is even for those who are professionals you have to understand being able to kick it from that far one most people do have the leg but the problem is it's not it's not about having a leg and act it's about having the accuracy to be able to kick from that far the upright you have to understand the uprights have been have been changed huh they're a lot more narrow than they used to be yes for the room for error the room for error when kicking you know most of the time the ball depending on if you have the consistency yes yes yes that you have the consistency in your follow-through.

You can't swing to the left, or you can't leave your leg open and it'll go wide right.

No, you everything has to be perfect.

That finish, that follows, especially when you're kicking it that far.

Yeah, because if anything is off, you kick it that far, it ain't going.

Yeah, it's

you wasted time one way or the other.

And the funny thing about it is, most people, most people say, Well, it is a preseason.

There's no pressure as well in this in this kick.

There's no pressure.

The circumstance that you're in, you know, it's preseason.

You know what?

We're going to allow you to kick.

Would they allow him to kick from 70, maybe in a regular season game where it actually counts?

Probably not.

If you think about it, OJo.

If you do miss, you got to understand.

The team is already in.

Steelers didn't even put anybody back.

That was my point.

They didn't even put anybody back there.

Right.

Right.

So there's like, hey, don't even worry about it.

Mm-hmm.

That's the thing.

That is the thing, what you're saying is that they normally have a guy back there.

And if you miss it, you got really only two guys, maybe your wings

that can tackle.

Tackle, yep.

They're normally linebackers or tight ends.

So those are really, you only really got two guys that can tackle.

You got offensive linemen, mainly offensive linemen.

Now, you might have a defensive lineman on there, Ocho, but he ain't tackling in space.

No.

And you know the kicker.

What's the likelihood of the kicker or the holder getting somebody down?

Because we saw it on the kick six, Auburn versus Alabama.

We've seen Antonio Crimarti run those things back.

We've seen

Devin Hester run it back.

I think OBJ ran one back in college.

So So when you put people in situations that they're not used to being in, which is offensive linemen having to tackle,

kickers and punters having to tackle, especially with that kind of space.

Now, if you get him hemmed up on the sideline, you can try to push him out of bounds.

But

that guy done got ahead of steam.

And, you know, they're taught and linemen don't really know how to get lanes, Ocho, because you know, they following each other.

They following right behind one another.

Bro, spread their ass out.

We got lanes now that you have to get in.

Yeah, they don't know.

But that was,

I was like, and why not, like you said, Ocho, why not try something like this?

Okay, now I got the confidence because if it's a, if it's a late-in the ball game, instead of trying to Hail Mary, hell,

I might let the kicker come out there and try it.

Put him on that day, either the tire game or the winner game.

Especially if we're in Indy or Houston.

Because those are indoor arenas.

And there's no factors from the outside elements.

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

So congratulations, look, congratulations.

It does not count towards the record, but you know, you know, now I got the, I got the leg.

The coach knows you have the leg.

Hey, you know, you gotta think, oh, Joe, that's a kickoff.

Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely.

You, these are a kickoff.

Hey, you, hold on, wait a minute now.

You do know your co-hosts can kick just as far, right?

No, you never kicked that far.

Hold on, time out, time out.

Time out.

Time out.

Unk.

You know there's video.

There's visual evidence.

There's video evidence.

I don't know.

Ash is there.

You have a great team of people that can pull things up.

No, she's on vacation.

Ash, can you please show Unk me kicking from 60, 65 yards, please, and having even more room to go once it goes through?

I think I might have been with during this time.

I might have been with Bleach Report.

We were doing something.

It's online.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm talking about in the game.

Now, if you kill, I saw you make

a PHT in the game.

Listen, 65 yards in the game

or just doing it in the park, practicing.

It's still

a guy catching the ball in the turkey bowl is the same as kicking the ball in the NFL, huh?

Well, absolutely.

But we're not talking about a guy.

You're actually referring to an actual player who plays, you know, in the NFL or played.

Played.

Right, right.

Many, many years ago.

Right.

But i i still can mentally i know what to do now the body might not react the way it should yeah i know i know what to do i know how to run i know how to like swing my arms and put one leg in front of the other but doing it is something entirely different entirely different but i was just trying to give you a small example that your co-host can kick 65 70 yards as well No, maybe once upon a time, my co-host can kick 65, 70 yards.

You fail to realize, Uncle I play soccer every weekend, Uncle I'm part of

a soccer league here in Miami.

Let me ask you a question.

You think

Messi leg speed is the same as it was, say, 15 years ago?

No, no, his speed, easy, like being able to break out and get away from people.

I said his leg speed.

Oh, no, absolutely not.

No, no.

Why not?

No, because he's much older now.

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Oh, okay, thank you very much.

We can move along.

Cam Ward NFL preseason debuted tonight in Tampa.

Five of eight completions.

All completions coming on the second drive.

67 yards passing, an 89.1 rating, led a 65-yard touchdown drive.

Ojo, the little bit, the limited action that you saw.

You like what you saw?

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

The funny thing about it is, you know what?

Is these players are NFL ready.

Some rookies that I saw today are are so poison the pocket most of the time they get happy feet when pressure

is put upon them but they look like they've been playing for 10 plus years they look like veterans the pocket presence the the the the relaxedness

under the rest Cam Ward showed it Jackson dart showed it as well obviously we saw Shadura last night who also played with that same calmness and poise and and and you can see the leadership qualities in the way they carry themselves as quarterbacks and cam small sample size that we we were able to see tonight he didn't play much but you can tell you can tell he's sharp you can tell he's been coached well not just here at the nfl level where he's at now because it doesn't just happen that fast it's not that fast of a turnaround to look that comfortable like you know what you're doing So he was coached very well, obviously, when he was at UM.

And so it's carried over into the NFL.

And I'm excited for Tennessee Titan fans, you know, and what they had with the number one pick.

I just don't like the fact that he's been overshadowed since his pick because everyone else has been talked about.

This is the least talked about number one pick, I think, maybe

ever.

Unk.

You were the number one pick.

So it seemed like he's went under the radar.

No one said anything about him when most of the pressure is on a number one pick to perform because you're going through

that was the worst last year.

Like you said, I can fly under the radar.

Right.

The difference is is now, Ocho, these guys come in, they've been coached by

throwing coaches since they were in high school.

Yes, sir.

Their freshman year.

So they're not like the guys that came in 25 years ago.

They were just coming to the NFL and then, okay, hey, you hire a coach right before you're getting ready to go

to the combine.

Right.

And then you work with him up until your pro day and that's it.

These guys have these guys all the time.

It's just like basketball basketball players.

They got shooting coaches and they got trainers

now in college.

So they have an upper hand.

That's why they're so, when you find a guy that's ready, he's really ready to play.

Yes.

Yes.

These receivers, they work with guys.

So when you find a guy that's ready, he's really, really ready.

Yeah.

So guys are not coming in like you, I mean, like I came in.

Right.

I mean, guys, you know, tied, I mean, guys would go down there for like maybe six weeks and work with a speed coach.

But these guys got professionals basically training them.

Right.

Sometimes they have them in high school, Ocho.

So just imagine you going through the process and

they're giving you pro style advice.

Right.

And you know what?

I think that's why so many different quarterbacks, obviously, they look the par, but don't have all the other intangibles to be a starter.

They look the par.

But Cam Ward, not only did he look the par, but he had everything else.

He had all the other qualities that make him the number one pick.

Obviously, Shador falling to the fifth round, not only did he look the par, but he has all the other intangibles that made him a top pick, despite him falling to the fifth round.

Right.

They polished.

They're polished.

That's all it is.

You're a rookie who's been prepared for the NFL level.

So you look the par once you're in a...

structured environment in a real live game.

Yeah.

God damn, how the hell are you dropping back so goddamn calm?

Everybody rushing, trying to knock his head off, and he's sitting there chilling, progression.

One, two, three.

Okay, three's not there.

Let me shoot back the one.

If one ain't there, I'm either throw it out of bounds or I'm gonna tuck it in.

Hell no, you better not.

If you go one, two, three, and try to go back to one, they're gonna hit you, put your put this hell right up under your chair.

You better take that check down.

Yeah.

Hey, one, two, three, check down.

One, two, three, throw it out of bounds.

Yeah, one or the other.

Or take off with it.

Yeah.

And I think, Ocho, I i think that's what we're seeing if you look at these quarterbacks i mean it used to be a quarterback throwing for 20 touchdowns in a season i was like oh my gosh he really did man these guys throwing for 25 30 touchdowns yeah easy it's it's a dip look and i understand the rules have a lot to do with that the way they protect the quarterback the way they protect the receivers the way they throw the football now is more conducive for quarterback having better stats but i do think these guys are a little bit more advanced uh than than when the older guys the Montanas and the Elways and the Marinos, when they came out.

I'm not saying they're better, but they're coached more.

And so I don't, John probably never, I don't know, Danny or John to be interesting.

Man,

you had a pro coach, you had a Tom House, or you have a, what's Carson Palmer's brother name?

Oh, Jordan, hey, Jordan Palmer's real deal.

Did you have a Jordan Palmer?

Did you have a George Whitfield?

Did you have any of those guys to help you?

All these quarterbacks, they have those.

Offensive linemen, they're working out with offensive line coaches.

They're working out with former great NFL linemen.

So

they're a little bit more advanced than, say, the guys, you know, even if you want to say 10 years ago, 15 years ago, definitely when you go start going back 20, 30 years ago, they're more advanced, just like the guys that are coming out in basketball.

You see how, even baseball, these guys, you know, fathers played, and And so they got, you know, hitting coaches, they got pitching coaches.

They're looking at biomechanics and they look at all.

Hey, the funny thing about everything, you think about the time and the time change and technology is advanced and everything evolves, they have better resources.

They got unlimited resources.

Absolutely.

to get better at said position, whatever it may be, whatever their respective craft may be, to hone that skill set.

So when they do make it to the highest level, they look the par.

par.

Now, it's one thing to look the par.

Everybody, you, I mean, the it factor can get you in the door, but you got to have all the other stuff that comes with it to excel.

Yeah, I totally, I totally agree.

But I thought Cal Ward played really well, especially last second drive.

You got the ball to Calvin Ridley.

You know, really, hey, that's somebody he can lean heavily on

because he's one of the premier route runners and he started to get you.

He started to look like Calvin Ridley again.

Because you remember that last year that he really played in in Atlanta.

He was cutting.

He was doing it.

Cutting.

He was really doing it.

On the other side of the ball, rookie Shiloh Sanders delivered multiple big hits, including one on Brandon Allen on the Blitz.

First-round draft pick, Imeka

Ibuka.

Ibuka.

Also showed off his physical attributes, leaping 21-yard grab, backup quarterback Kyle Trask.

I mean, Shadura's played really well.

I mean, I've seen footage of him in camp.

He did a great job of

one-on-one period against the tight ends.

He was on it.

Because you have to understand,

he started out as a corner.

Yeah.

So he does have tornadoes.

I didn't know that.

I thought he was on it.

Yeah, he started out as a corner and then moved to safety.

Yeah.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

But when, yeah, yeah, I thought he played well.

We know he's a thumper.

He's looking to get looking get downhill and put big hits on.

He's down here now.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

But I thought he's going to be interesting, Ocho.

How many special teams can he play?

Right.

Because that's going to be the key.

He's not a start.

Now, he could be working his way into the starting lineup, but as of right now, I don't think he's a starter.

So now, what other ways can you contribute?

Right.

He'll be on special teams, whether it be field goal, block, whether it be

kickoff.

Yeah, punt.

Punt return.

Can you be a jammer?

Can you be a gunner?

On the yes.

Yeah.

Yep.

Can you be on the front line?

Can you be an L1, two, three, four, five on the front line?

Definitely he's going to be on

kickoff, obviously.

Yeah.

Hey, is it me, or does it seem like kickoff is much more, much easier as opposed to how it was during our day?

You know, where you had the wedge buster, you had the

they don't really want those type of collisions.

So they don't, if you see, they're not letting you get that kind of running running start, right?

Right, yeah.

Um,

it's different, it's not.

It's, I mean, I think Helster said he'd have probably more return touchdowns had they had it in like that.

So, it's been interesting to see what would have happened.

Um,

but the advancements, I don't, I don't have a problem with it, Ocho.

I mean, sometimes, like, man, I'm just saying it's different, it's very different, yeah, it's very different.

Uh,

the guy that you really like in the first round, the uh, Bucs selected, uh, a mecha uh

Ibuka.

You like him?

You like Macmillan, Carolina?

And they both look good.

You like, I think, was it Golden?

Did Golden go in the first round or the second round for Green Bay?

Matthew Golden.

Oh, yeah.

McMillan.

I think Golden winner in the second round.

He raised Ranford.

First, number 23.

Then they had Jaden Higgins win the second round.

Luther Burton III went in the second round.

Trey Harris went in the second round.

And Jack Beach went in the second round.

So there were, in the first two rounds, there were seven receivers that went in the first two rounds.

Yeah.

Who do you expect to have the biggest impact?

Probably, honestly, out of everyone you just named, I know Matthew Golden is good.

He's phenomenal.

Obviously, they do have dubs.

They have Jaden Reed.

So I don't think he will get the number of targets necessary to be able to showcase Reed, Dobbs, Watson.

It's so many of them over there.

I think he will contribute.

But

I really believe T-Mac,

McMillan, over there with the Panthers, you know, and with what he's able to do and what he showed, very small sample size.

Honestly, it's been one preseason game.

But again, I've been high on the Panthers.

I think T-Mac will going to be the one to showcase his ability and what he can do.

It's a mismatch every time he leaving one-on-one.

He's very tall.

He can run after the catch.

I'll be 50-50 ball turning 80-20 when it is him.

So

I'm excited for him.

He's the one I'm highest on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as a group, offensively as a receiving core, I think they make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step in his career.

I agree.

I think him, I like Ibuka also for the simple fact

how healthy

will Godwin be upon his return.

Right, right.

Is he only, is he going to, I don't think he's on pup, pup, but so it's going to be interesting to see

how he used, because, you know,

we know Baker can throw it.

You got Mr.

Consistency on one side, Evans, Mike Evans.

And then, so

Buka could really have

a huge year.

But I like McMillan also.

Long angular guy.

What is like 6'3 ⁇ , 6'4?

Make tough contested catches.

He's good run after the catch.

Yeah.

I mean, I think he's good.

I think Matthew Golden, I mean, you look, you look at Romeo Dobbs, you missed, mentioned Christian Watson, you mentioned Reed.

They got a lot, they got a lot of receivers, they don't really have a guy that, like, okay, this is the guy that you got to worry about.

You kind of got to worry about them all because at any given moment, because you know, it might be Dobbs weeks, one week, and then it'll be Christian Watson.

Watson's biggest thing is staying healthy, healthy, yeah.

Hey, hey, he can put him up and put him down.

He can pick him up, put them down, quite quietly.

The goddamn

Packers got a 4x1 team, huh?

Yeah, yeah they got a four by one team yeah dubs watson reed can fly dubbes golden can fly

man stop playing uh

yeah i um

i think mcmillan and abuka would have the biggest but i'm not gonna sleep on uh you know luther burton a lot of people thought he'd be a first-round draft pick receiver out of missouri uh he go he goes to the bears they got DJ Moore.

They got Roma Dunze.

They drafted a tight end in the first round.

They still have Cole Komet.

They upgraded their offensive line.

They should be, and they got

Detroit's old offensive coordinator as the head coach calling the plays.

I call it Mr.

Creativity.

Yeah.

So they should definitely be better offensively.

And if they are better offensively, well,

big number.

Because if you look at Detroit, you look at Jamison Williams, had a phenomenal season.

You look at Amon Ross St.

Brown.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Had a big season.

You know what's funny?

Is Amon Ross St.

Brown?

He's one of the top five receivers, depending on how you put him in new menifil order in the NFL.

Well, I really don't think it didn't matter who was calling the goddamn plays because he's so good at just route running in general.

He's a polished one.

You know what?

I don't have to scheme you open.

He's one of those where offensive coordinators and your head coach, you know what, I can sleep at night because I ain't got to worry about that one.

It don't matter who we playing.

I don't have to worry about him.

I know what he can do.

So you add what he can do and his skill set and his DNA, and then you put that with the creativity that Ben Johnson has.

Yes.

You get what you saw last year.

You get magic.

You get magic.

Now, I don't know if there's anyone like that with that type of skill set similar to Amon Ross St.

Brown on the Bears, but DJ Moore is damn good.

He's not that far behind.

He doesn't have that short area quickness like that.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's not what he is.

Can he play the slot?

Yeah, but he's an outside the number.

He and Roman Doomsay is the outside the number type of guys.

So

you're going to be all right.

The good thing about it is, is Ben Johnson is going to understand and know his players' strengths and put them in position to be able to make those plays and not allow them to be exposed in whatever their weakness is that we can't see watching from home.

We don't know it.

They know it.

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Jackson Dart shined in his NFL debut, 12 of 19, 154 passing yards, one touchdown, zero interceptions.

He led three scoring drives.

The TD came on a 29-yard strike down the left sideline to Lil Jordan Humphrey with pressure in his face.

He also rushed three times for 24 yards, OJo.

You like what you saw?

Hell yeah.

Shoot.

Listen, we weren't even on Jackson Dart.

Now started to show off with how good he looked in being in-season ready, being polished, you know.

look really good in the look really good in the pocket.

He wasn't erratic.

Most of the time, you get rookie quarterbacks in an environment like that in a game, and everybody got happy feet.

Everybody got happy feet.

They look one, they look at the first read.

The first read ain't there.

They take it off and they're gone.

But no, he did everything.

He did everything the right way.

You can tell he's another one who's been coached up and was ready for the moment.

The moment wasn't too big for him, even though it's just the preseason.

So it's like going on your first date.

The first thing you want to do in your first date is you want to be impressionable.

You want to do everything possible to do all the right things.

You want to open the door.

You want to let her order first.

Huh?

He did everything right.

True, as did Cam Ward.

And obviously, we saw Shador, who had a bigger plate to be able to show what he can do.

Hell,

he got a third base in the first night.

And he played, I mean, all the quarterbacks played.

Rush was six of seven.

Jameis was seven of 11.

62 yards a touchdown.

Tommy DeVito, 10 of 14, 73 yards, a touchdown.

Jackson Dart, 12 of 19, 154 yards, and a touchdown.

35 of 51, 317, three touchdowns.

So

clearly, they had a plan.

They were going to throw the football.

Yeah, absolutely.

They were going to throw the football.

Absolutely.

And

I thought the guys played really, really well.

Jackson Dart threw the ball well.

A little Jordan Humphrey, been in the league for a while, so he had

a consistent player outside to catch the ball for him.

But yeah,

Jackson Dart looked extremely well.

You know, he's with the old miss, playing kiffen.

Great offense in mind.

Coach the quarterbacks does a great job of coaching quarterbacks.

So

maybe

I'm not surprised that he played so well given

who he tutelaged under.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

And the funny thing about it is, I believe Russell Wilson is going to be the starter.

Russell Wilson is going to be the starter for the New York Giants.

I can tell you that.

But they wanted to see what Jackson Dart would look like once the Keys are turned over to him.

Now, it could be this season if things aren't going well for the Giants offensively.

But Russell Wilson will be the starter for the New York Giants for the foreseeable future, unless things aren't going well offensively.

Well, I'll see about the starter.

I don't know if he's going to be the finisher.

But listen, there's a chance he stays the finisher because of what he has around him.

You get that ball to the other UNO.

You put him in position to make plays for you.

It makes your job a lot easier.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Oh, man.

Hey, somebody in the chat making fun of me, huh?

What that?

It talked about I got the same thing I had on last night, on last night's show.

Well, actually, I do.

I ain't take no showers, so.

But I mean, look,

are you going to keep two veteran quarterbacks and a rookie?

Yes, Jameis Winston is not the one.

He's great great great You know what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.

You're gonna keep two veteran quarterbacks.

You know what you're playing Russ.

You're probably paying Jameis.

What are you playing Jameis five to seven million?

Yes.

And you know Jackson Dart's not going anywhere.

No, but you keep you keep Russ.

I mean, no, you can you keep Jameis Winston a great locker room presence, a great presence for the team in general.

He's just good for the locker room in general.

And just if it comes down to emergency situations, we understand that James can go go in there and have some fun.

Not only have some fun, but be consistent, kind of turnover prone, depending on how long he's in there at the position.

But outside of that, he can make plays as well.

Because that's a tough division, Ocho.

Oh, very.

Very.

I mean, you got the Eagles.

You got the Commanders.

You got the Cowboys.

I mean, people think the Cowboys are going to be better.

I don't know how much better.

I don't know.

We think the Eagles are still the cream of the crop of that division based on what they did last year, what they brought back.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Listen.

It is very little.

Washington Commanders.

We expect Jaden Daniels not to have a sophomore slump now.

They do have someone that's disgruntled.

Okay.

Terry McLaurin.

I was going to say, I was going to say, listen,

having your number one target, having your security blanket paid and happy would help prevent having a sophomore slump.

But hey, maybe they know what they're doing over there in Washington.

But there is no room for error.

There is no room for error in that NFC East when it comes to quarterback quarterback play.

You got to be consistent week in and week out because everyone else is so good.

Everyone else got so much better.

Hell, the Eagles coming off a goddamn Super Bowl win.

You think they don't want to go back?

They didn't do anything but improve as well.

Yep, I agree.

So

Jackson Dart

See,

Shador, touche, bro.

Yeah.

Brian Dayball on what he thought of Jackson Dark's performance.

It's about what I thought it would be.

Efficient, effective, aggressive, confident in the pocket.

Still stuff can work on, but he's doing good.

Brian Dayball is a great coach.

I mean, I like his offensive mind.

Now, I don't, you know, there remains to be seen offense

as a head coach.

Right.

But we saw him in Alabama.

Now, he didn't have the great success at Cleveland, but hey,

there ain't a whole lot of outside of

Paul Brown, there hadn't been a whole lot of coaches that had success at Cleveland.

Well, Marty had some success.

He got the AFC championships a couple of times with the Browns.

Sam Ritigliano, that was before your time.

Who is the Cleveland in the early 80s?

But

Brian Dayball's offensive mind, I mean, he was the guy that really got Josh Allen on track, Ocho.

Now, then people, because prior to him getting there, people are like, I don't know.

The jury's still out

on

Josh.

And then Brian Dayball comes there, and not only, he was so good, he parlayed that into a head coaching job for himself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so,

yeah, he said he was efficient.

He was effective.

He was aggressive and confident.

Things that you like for the quarterback.

You like for it to be efficient.

You like for it to be

effective.

You like for him to be aggressive.

Don't be, hey, dink it and dunking it on here because you scared to throw the ball.

No, throw the ball down the field.

Yeah.

It was third down.

It was third down.

And he took

the three by one side.

The three by one side, he take the deep ball

instead of throw a short for the first down.

See, he said, F that, it's third, it's third and whatever.

Yeah, hell, he went deep.

Touchdown.

Yeah.

But that's when you're not afraid.

You're not worried about your completion percentage.

You're not worried about your quarterback for rating.

You're not worried about your QBR.

Right.

You score points by pushing the ball down the field.

Down the field, yeah.

J.J.

McCarthy said he was emotional in his first game in 364 days.

McCarthy said there was a little teardrop during the national anthem before he took the field for the first time since he torn meniscus in his right knee that ended his rookie season.

It was just the journey that any injured player goes on to get back out there and doing the things that they love.

It just shows how much I care for this game.

He completed his first three passes, all to

wide receiver Jordan Addison, and led the Vikings to a field goal on their opening drive before Kevin O'Connell pulled him.

McCarthy, four of seven completion.

He was four completions of seven attempts, 30 yards.

He also converted a fourth down with an eight-yard run.

Ocho, did you like what you see from JJ McCarthy?

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it.

I was kind of nervous for him.

I was kind of nervous for him.

I wanted him to be able to get through a clean game.

No mishaps.

No

mistakes are going to happen, but they're things that we're not going to be able to see.

But it looked like he handled the offense very, very well.

I would have liked to see Justin Jefferson out there.

Obviously, I think he's nursing something, trying to make sure he doesn't have any mishaps or sleep ups either with whatever injury is bothering him.

But JJ looked good.

JJ looked good.

He looked like the quarterback of the future.

Addison, everyone else around him looked good as well.

So I don't see any problems.

I don't see them missing a beat offensively as long as JJ does exactly what he's supposed to do.

Hell, if Sam Darnell could do it with what he had last year,

then J.J.

McCarthy can do it as well.

Sam Howell came in and was 11 of 13 for 105 yards, Ocho.

Brett Rippin was one for four.

But the guy that we wanted to see, like you said, he toured up Maniskas last year and he missed his entire rookie season.

So to see him get back out there today, he says it's emotional.

And that's true.

The more you care about something, the more it hurts when you don't have it or you can't do it.

So

it was great to see him out there because they're a lofty expectation.

They're in a good division.

Look at, I mean, last year they went 14 and 3 and they started on the road because the 15 and 2 Detroit Lions.

We think Chicago is going to be better.

We think Green Bay is going to be better.

The Bear,

excuse me, Detroit.

I mean, we don't think they're going to take a step back.

They do get Hutch back.

Yeah.

Mr.

Motor.

So.

Yeah, but I thought J.J.

McCarthy played well.

You know,

it's really hard.

You don't want to say he's a rookie, but theoretically he is because he didn't really get anything done last year, Ocho.

Because as soon as he, you know, I think he got hurt in practice.

You know who I didn't see when we were talking about the Giants game?

Yeah.

But did Brother Abdul Carter play today?

He probably had limited snaps, huh?

If he played at all, I mean, we can go back and see if I can find him on the

he played.

Actually, he did play.

Okay, okay.

But you know, as a D-lineman,

yeah, it's a rhythm, man.

You just can't go out there the first play and get a sack.

Hey, you got to, you know, you got to set the guy up.

Yeah.

You got to be, you know,

not unless you did that like that, that January defensive lineman, number 78, where he made the game.

He made the team tonight.

Yeah.

Two sacks,

fumble recovery for a touchdown, pressure.

Yeah, he on the team.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey.

It's like, yes, son.

He had six snaps.

Abdul Carter had six snaps in the preseason debut.

Three snaps were rushing the passer all three rushes resulted in the pressure and the hurry per pff right and next-gen stats yeah so he did what he was supposed to do he flashed um

but like i said i think the the thing is with uh with d lineman they they working on stuff they d lineman are basically like a wide receiver yeah because he's setting you up for something that he's going to use at a later date in time So if you think the move that you see that he starts the game with is the move that he's going to finish the game with, you're sadly mistaken.

It's just like a wide receiver.

If you think that route I ran on you to start the game is going to be the one I finish on you, you're sadly mistaken.

I'm going to give you the illusion.

And that's what I'm getting.

It's going to be that.

Yeah.

But it's not going to be that.

In Justin Fields' preseason debut against the Packers, Phil was ultra efficient.

He was three or four on passing, 42 yards, ran the ball twice for 14 yards and didn't take a single sack.

Fields orchestrated a sharp opening drive against the Packers, starting defense, capping it off with a 13 yard rushing touchdown this set the tone for an excellent preseason open for aaron glenn squad does feel remaining calm composed in a controlled pocket what do you think ocho do you think did you like what you saw from him tonight Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Listen, we saw flashes of brilliance when he was with the Bears.

We saw flashes of what he can do when he was with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

So what we saw tonight is what we expected from Phils.

It's all about him just being consistent and being able to do it week to week to week.

He's always wanted the opportunity to be a starting quarterback.

I think he wasn't dealt a fair deal in Chicago because when you look at the Chicago Bears and that organization and the way they conducted and handled quarterbacks throughout the years, it hasn't been great at all.

It hasn't been great at all.

It just hasn't.

Now things are a little different.

Got Ben Johnson there, Caleb Williams.

Things are different.

The way they're running the system, obviously, in Pittsburgh,

Russ was promised a starting job.

Russ gets hurt.

Justin Field Field comes in.

He plays phenomenal.

He plays phenomenal, but obviously once Rusk gets healthy, Russ, I mean, Justin Fields is benched.

Boom.

Damn it.

Can I just get opportunity?

Can I get an opportunity to shine and show what I can do with the quarterback position?

I can be quarterback number one.

If you put me in a situation that is advantageous for me and my skill set, now that in New York with a player's coach that played the game.

and understands exactly what you can and can't do and going to do what he needs to do to make sure you're successful.

You got Garrett Wilson.

I don't know who, and I can't remember his last name.

I meant to write it down.

I don't know if it was a fullback that kept making those plays tonight

or tight end.

I think he wore 47.

I think he was wearing 47.

Hey, Young Bull popped out on film.

He popped out on film to the point.

Well, I don't know who this is, but I guarantee you he's going to have a starting job.

I don't know if it was a fullback or a tight end, but he was balling.

Jets had 403 yards, total yards.

Greenbay had two turnovers.

Time of possession was 38-41 Jets, 21-19.

First downs was 21-12 in favor of the Jets.

Like I said, I think his name is Jay Tufelli.

He made a team

tonight.

He did.

Two sacks.

Yeah.

And he had a fumble recovery for a touchdown.

Yeah.

You're going to be out.

Yeah.

but i think that's that's the key for him um

the jet show that showed justin feels that they wanted him oh yeah yeah he gave a two-year deal they put him in he's the starter uh they do have tyrod to be his backup but that's what he wanted that's why he didn't go back to pittsburgh he said no y'all already showed me what y'all want oh yeah y'all already did me how y'all gonna do listen you're not gonna do me dirty twice no absolutely listen pittsburgh is a situation where there's a young lady that wants you she wants you she don't want nobody else to have you so she puts you in the friend zone.

Until the dude, she really wants to get his act together.

Okay, now I'm going to put you off on the bench.

Now I'm going to go deal with Russ.

That's the situation last year.

So listen, you get smart.

That ain't the situation that's ideal for me and where I want to go.

New York is perfect for him.

He got somebody that actually wants him.

And when you have somebody that actually wants you, you're able to play freely.

Understanding, okay, I don't have to look over my shoulder.

I don't have the pressure of having to do everything perfect and do everything right.

I can just play football.

That's the thing.

And I think AG,

you know, they moved over Marin Rodgers basically for Justin Fields.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And,

but he made it easy for him, huh?

Who Rogers?

Yeah, he made it easy.

You know, you have someone like AG.

AG ain't playing with that.

I'm not sure if I'm ready.

I don't know if I'm buying in.

I don't know if I'm going to be there for training camp.

I don't know if I'm going to take a dart.

Man, AG ain't got time for that.

I'm trying to change the entire culture.

And I need players that are bought in.

Whether you've been playing five years or we've been playing 20,

I need you on the same page with me.

And he just wasn't.

Only if you're a relative do you have tolerance for BS as a person age.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

You know, you, you,

if that person's not related to you, though, people like, yeah, man, you know, old people.

And, you know, look,

at this juncture, AG coming coming in as a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in.

Yes.

Aaron being as great as he is and being who he is,

he can easily sway a locker room.

So I think for AG to look at it like, for me to make sure I still have control of this locker room, let's just move on.

Because I'm not so sure if

there was something.

Did AG want to hear Aaron say something?

Unless Aaron came with that thing, turning back, flips, like, yes, sir, let's let's go, AG.

I'm ready.

Right.

Unless he got that, they probably was going to move on anyway, OJo.

They probably was going to move on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And,

but hopefully Justin

can seize this opportunity because this is a perfect opportunity.

This might be the best opportunity because, you know, when he went to Chicago, you knew he was going to be the starter.

They just didn't have the pieces around him.

And I don't know if that system was conducive

and the coach was conducive now he has another defensive minded head coach but i think a g has has

an offensive guy that can put justin fields in position to be successful oh yeah and listen you would you would do let's understand what justin field has at his disposal over there with the jets as well you got brees hall you got brother uh brother

allen who looks like who looks like a derrick henry who looks the part I mean, I'm not saying he's Derrick Henry, I'm just saying they have a one-two punch at the running back position.

We have one of

top 10 receivers in the NFL, depending on where you slate him at, depending on where you want him at, and Garrett Wilson.

Well, goddamn, who's the number two?

I don't know who they damn who hey, chat.

Who's the number two at receiver man with the Jets?

It's slipping my mind.

Damn.

You think I mean look?

Alan Lazar still there?

Alan Lazar.

Josh Reynolds?

Josh Reynolds.

You remember Josh Reynolds?

I think he played for the he played for the Rams.

I think he was in like Tennessee.

Or was he in

Detroit?

I'm almost almost certain he was with the Rams

So hold on again Alan Lazard and Josh Reynolds so that's the that's a two and a three and Gary Wilson yeah okay he's trying to find out we know Gary Wilson that we tried to find the other receivers

but that is Josh Reynolds that he's with the Rams I think he's with Tennessee or

did I say Tennessee

or was it uh it was with the Lions Lions

Jackson

okay yeah

he with the Broncos?

He must have been on the back of the star.

You like AG?

You think AG is the right fit for the Jets on Cho?

Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Listen, you need a player like that that can deal with that media.

Forget the house.

Forget the football stuff.

Give me somebody with a mindset and a mentality that can deal with all the bullshit and the stereotypes that come along with being the head coach in a market of that magnitude.

Once you get some that's ready for that, okay, now I can work on everything else.

I can work from the top on down.

And AG is the right player for that.

And he played in New York.

So he definitely understands it.

Yeah, but hey, listen, one thing about it, even though he played in New York, you understand how those newspapers are.

You ain't getting no cut either.

We ain't giving you no break either.

But if things ain't going right, we're going to hop on you too.

Yep.

But hey,

the newspaper outlets and media outlets are ruthless.

And I don't know who creates some of the headlines sometimes.

Boy, they so creative.

They so creative.

That's what they say.

If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere.

Anywhere.

You can make it anywhere.

Hey, just sitting here talking about all this quarterback play, man.

It just reminds me of my day, man, at Beach High, man.

Remind me of my days at Beach High, man.

You know, I was one of the best in the state, huh?

Huh?

You hear me?

I wanted the best in the state.

No, you were one of the best in Liberty City.

No, no, no, no.

In the state, I'm talking about in the world.

I was one of the best in the world.

I remember, hey, you know, it's funny to

for me to have played quarterback at Miami Beach Senior High in in 1996, I still remember my receivers, my number one and my number two, Dwight Stirrup and Richard Lussel.

That's my little Zoe.

Dwight Stirrup, I mean, Dwight was my homeboy.

Oh, Joe.

He was good, but Ojo.

You think Joe Montana could tell you who his wide receivers were in college or in high school?

Probably.

You only had two or three, Ocho.

Damn.

We probably can't.

But see,

my two, Dwight Stirrup and Richard Lucelle, that's my Zoe.

Richard Lucelle, that's my Zoe.

Sophie, say, Richard, if you see this, you know, hey, we was at that doing work.

Hey, listen, my running back back was Tobar Wilson.

Oh, my goodness, boy.

Toba, hey, he was, oh, you should have seen me out there, huh?

Okay, name the offensive line.

Name your five offensive line

at Oregon State.

At Oregon State?

Yeah.

I played receiver.

I don't know.

Exactly.

That's my point.

Hey,

I'll run the offense like this.

Blue 80.

Blue 80.

Hey, Mike, you hot.

You hot.

You get two off the mic.

You hot, boy.

Yeah.

Chad, he ain't say none of that.

Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert.

And then I go to the gun.

Hey, Uncle, I ain't do none of that.

Hey, hey, Unc, boy.

I used to be, hey, I used to be killing that thing a quarterback.

I had him on the number two, too.

Hey, you got to remember, remember, I was the baby when I was a freshman.

D-Starks for the quarterback.

Samari Roe was a receiver.

Terry Cousins was playing running back.

So you got to understand.

Y'all won seven games.

No, we was good now.

Hey, Hey, um, you got to understand who we played against seven games.

Hey, we played against some good competition now.

Well, damn.

Hey, Miami Northwestern, Miami Central, Edison High School.

Them boys were stacked back then.

I ain't hearing none of them players.

I ain't hearing none of them named what y'all name.

All the guys that you name played in the NFL.

Yeah, they did.

I'm just telling you the quality that my school had.

We had good quality.

So what happened to the wins?

Huh?

Tell me the quality wins.

I know y'all had quality players, but about the quality wins.

We had some quality wins wins now i just don't remember the records from back then that's a very long time ago you know your record were y'all 14 and 1 15 0 13 2

obviously no we weren't y'all lost to the state championship y'all lost in the semifinals quarterfinals

damn i i can't remember but i did score

what i can tell you is i scored four touchdowns in one game and nobody nobody's done that Nobody scored four touchdowns in one game.

Did y'all win that game?

Yes.

yes matter of fact we almost beat miami northwest in the year they won state one of the greatest one of the greatest high school receivers i saw with my own eyes marvin snoop menace out of the scott projects that played for florida state played with kansas city for a little bit before he got hurt yeah i've never seen nothing like snoop menace born high school uh

oh my

yeah What am I supposed to do?

We almost beat the team that won the state.

What am I supposed to do?

I don't know.

I'm just trying to relive my story of high school, huh?

that's all i'm just i'm just sharing that story since we talking football it's taking me down memory lane because we talk about the young bulls that's going into the nfl that got an opportunity to start at the highest level and it just brought me back to where it all started that's all i'm just sharing my feelings and my story that's all my bad

man

it sucks it sucks being you oh choose it sucks being old you want to be young so bad to go back out there with the boys no i i i do honk i'm doing because listen i'm really not old like i it it kind of it makes me upset and it kind of bothers me when people call me unknown and i think about it well why you calling me unknown and i look younger than you sometimes like you know you know it's like what you mean um

look at you boy you look 50 you look 60 you know because you you're drinking your life away and you're smoking and all that but at my body feel good honk you hear me i ain't never been hurt i don't have no injuries i take care of myself.

You go back out there, you'll be hurt.

You think so?

I think I have

the self-awareness and the IQ to be able to protect myself if given the opportunity to play at the highest level.

You think so?

Yeah.

I might not have the speed.

I still have my lateral movement.

No, it ain't the same.

It ain't the same.

But even if it's not the same, it's still better than what's out there.

No, it's not.

You don't think so?

You done lost too much of it.

Your spidey senses don't tingle anymore.

Yeah.

Because they ain't been on.

You ain't turned them on in a long time.

It's like a car.

You could have a Madden's car.

You could have a Bugatti.

Pay

$6 million for it.

But don't let it

put it in your garage and don't cut it on for 12 years, 14 years, 15 years.

Right.

You're right.

You're right.

You think it'll go crank?

Yeah, it should.

It should.

No, it won't.

And then, and then you're going to have to, then you have to go take it to the shop, get all the fluids flushed.

Oh, man.

You got to realize, Ocho, you haven't run like that.

Yeah, like that, like you used to run in a very long time.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt something

than you go out there and look like your old self.

Yeah.

Patty.

Hey, put a chat on my head, boy.

What what did they say?

Hey, they call you all kind of names.

Chad Hurts.

Chad Leaf.

Yeah, exactly.

Hey, Chad Bletso, Chad DeVito.

Hell, man.

Ocho, did you see?

Did you watch any of the Rams Cowboys game?

CeeDee Lamb get rocked by an official on the sideline.

He was watching Joe Milton throw a deep pass but he's watching on the jumbo tron right he knows that Joe Milton has an arm I think I saw something the other day he threw it like 70 75 yards so he got his hands up so he's watching he's watching the jumbo try like yeah this touchdown little does he know he forgets that there's a side judge oh cho that's running right

and he hit him

man he ran dead into the back of cd And you know, if you triple official, that's unsportsmanlike conduct.

Wait, the official, but well, he wasn't on the field of play, so how could he be?

How could it matter?

Didn't y'all have a get back coach telling y'all to get back?

Get back, get back, get out the way.

Yeah, because what happens if you trip the official?

That's a 15-yard penalty.

That's exactly what CD got.

He lucky to get hurt because he relaxed.

Don't y'all, he don't know the guy coming.

I mean, right, right, right, right.

Maybe that's a blessing and a curse because he was relaxed and he didn't tense up.

Was this this wasn't a touchdown, was it?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh, man.

But that, you know, that's why they have, that's what, you know,

we call them the get back coach.

Right, right, right.

Get back, because, you know, you got to give the official free run of the line, the sideline, because if he, you trip him or something like that,

it's not like basketball that you can, you know, you can run into the official because the official is part of the court.

But in football, you trip him, that's a 15-yard pillar.

You got to get out of the way.

Yeah, you got to get, you got it.

You're supposed to be five.

You're supposed to be, first of all, you're supposed to be five yards from

the sideline.

That's what you're supposed to be.

Because remember, they got the tarp, ocho, and the tarp, you know, you got the grass, and it's like four to five yards, open space, and then you're supposed to stand on the tarp.

But you know, everybody be standing on the field, yeah.

And that's when it's get back, get back.

He was penalized for a foul on the official.

I think it's a sportsman like conduct,

but uh

did he pass the 30?

oh, yeah, he definitely did.

Well, yeah, you can't go past the 30, you can't go that far down.

He likes Gilly

had the book Gilly run down the field

and the Philly game

and then spike the ball.

Hey, that was funny.

Yeah,

hey, uh, uh, Gillet, uh, Wallow say man, cuz I don't think you supposed to do that,

yeah, yeah, but uh, I mean, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen it called before.

Yeah.

And

CD had no, I mean, that, Ocho, you know, that's the worst feeling.

To bump into something that you don't know that's there.

You know, somebody, you know, you running and somebody running to you.

Oh, my bad.

Oh, they used to be notorious for that on the football field, Ocho.

They catch you snipping.

Oh, my bad.

Shot my bad.

Oh, no, no, no, don't you worry about it, bro.

You're right.

Don't you worry about it.

I'm going to get you back.

Don't worry about it.

if i don't get you i'm man what was that for oh because he got me

he got i can't get him because he he's smart he know he did some chicken ish so i can't get him you didn't know anything about it so i can get you because your guard was down

gotta get somebody oh choke yeah you got you got to i gotta get somebody

somebody go get got

uh man i ain't got nothing to do with that yeah you do your teammate you should you should

He made a lot of the situational IG Ocho on his face.

He posted, CD got decked by the rail.

I feel like everyone needs to laugh.

Hey, that's funny.

He did.

And yeah, that was an official.

I mean, dude, probably in his 50s, 40s, 50s.

But the mere fact...

He didn't see CD, CD didn't see him.

He probably was mad, probably wanted to throw two flags on CD.

Probably, and you know why you know, you probably know why.

Also, CD didn't get hurt because his body was relaxed, because he didn't know something was coming.

He didn't tense up, yep.

Exactly.

When you always think about,

I don't mean to bring this up, but drunk drivers.

Do you always notice that the person that's always intoxicated the most, who's always in a relaxed state in a high collision crash, for some reason always walks away and never gets hurt?

You're right.

You're right.

Yeah, I hate to use it.

Hey, you can see the chat, huh?

No.

What they say?

What did they call you?

Ojo Mahomes?

Man, hey, but it's so funny.

Chad Orloski.

Hey, man.

Hey.

You know the chat.

You can't let the chat, man.

Hey, they on my head right now, man.

They on my head.

Shadur said all the right things last night night, as he, as expected, after a great preseason debut.

Let's take a listen to what Shadur had to say.

Yeah.

I mean, God's patient with us as humans.

We mess up at times, but I don't feel like he throws us away as individuals.

So it's different things and different life lessons, you know, you got to go through.

And I haven't went through this situation, you know, that I'm in ever.

So it's really just a test, you know, I feel like from God, or whoever it's from, it's just a test.

But anyway, I'm just thankful that

I was able to see the day of light and get out there and be able to play.

So, you know, they didn't have to let me play.

So anything and everything, you know, it's good for me.

So

then, you know, the kids looking up, the kids definitely inspired me,

of course, more.

It's a lot of people incarcerated that definitely talk to their friends or talk to me to tell me my friend from jail was, you know, watching you play and watching everything that's going on.

So it's just like

the world, you know, I say it's so small and everybody sees everything.

And I'm thankful to be able to inspire people through everything.

Because a lady just told me now, when I'm having a bad day, I just think about Shador and I'm saying, I'm going to act like Shador.

You know, so like, that's so cool, you know, to me, that, that, that I'm some form of inspiration.

Shador, the only thing I'm going to disagree with you is, they had to let you play because everybody else was hurt.

Yeah.

Because you ain't had no choice.

If they didn't let you play,

they brought a guy in.

They brought in Snoop Huntley.

Yeah.

Because

Flacco wasn't going to play and the other two couldn't play.

So, but you did your thing.

Oh, yeah.

All you could control is what you could control.

What you could control was how you played.

How you handle the situation that you've been placed in.

Yeah.

He did it.

he did very well he did a hell of a job he handled it well he said all the right things he did all the right things uh um and that that's that's control what you can control what you can't control don't worry about it

control what you can control uh he went through a storm something he never if if you'd have told him a year ago he would be in this situation where he's at right now he wouldn't have believed it his dad wouldn't have believed it nobody would you or I wouldn't have believed it.

No, absolutely not.

Based on but you're here.

Man.

Now,

forget how I got here.

How you're going to get out of here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because a lot of times, you know, we spend a lot of time with your man.

How we got into the situation.

You're in the situation now.

How you going to get out of it?

Yeah.

And I think he's done a great job.

Look, you know, I'm sure he talks to his dad.

Even though his dad is not there, he still talks to his dad daily.

Dad gives him great advice.

He doesn't put any more on us that we can handle.

Yeah, absolutely not.

And sometimes the situation they put you in, they're not advantageous for you.

It's not the best situation for you because you've got people in the situation you're in that don't even believe in you.

And that's when it hurt worse.

Most of the time, if you hear someone, oh, I'm a part of your organization and you say, well, hell, I ain't want you, though.

Yeah.

That's meant to break you.

That's meant to break you.

You can't break what you didn't build.

You can't break what you didn't create.

Come on.

Come on, man.

But everybody's not built like that mentally.

You're right.

True.

In this era.

In this era of sensitivity and, oh, he said this about me.

No, everybody's not built for that.

That's meant to break you.

And if they break you mentally, it affects what you do in between the lines on the green grass.

But that's neither here nor there.

He played well.

The small sample size we got to see of Brother Sanders, 12 look good.

He looked good.

You're right, Ojo.

You're right.

Everybody, I mean, I mean, sometimes, I mean, sometimes

when things are not going your way and you feeling down,

man,

it's hard to stay positive.

And I think the thing, the best thing for him is that he has a dad that's really positive.

Yeah.

He sees the positivity in everything, even when it's all negativity.

He'll find something positive.

He'll find something good to say.

Danos.

Ask OJo what he wants.

Make him bark.

Make him bark.

Make him bark.

No, no, we don't want that.

I tried to deter him from barking.

And the thing is, I put Titus up, Titus asleep.

So I ain't got to worry about Titus coming here and him growling and going crazy.

Hey, that's a good combination, boy.

And then I took the bones up because him and Teddy...

Fighting over the bones.

He wanted all the bones.

He didn't want Teddy to have none.

So he had three.

I gave each one a bone.

Right.

So he had his, and he bargained at Teddy's.

So

once I gave him Teddy's, it was all good.

So I just took all three of them.

Because he had two at first.

Right.

Teddy just had one.

But he wasn't satisfied with that.

He wanted all three.

So I said, no, we're not finna do that.

We're going to take the bones up for tonight.

You got a little thug on your hands over there, man.

You want to go stay with Ocho?

Hey, yeah.

Come on over here, Thanos.

I'm going to tell you, I'm going to take you down to the city, boy.

They got a dog park downtown.

He said, I can go to the dog park.

Yeah.

He said, you know, I got, you know, I had a little smile procedure about a month ago.

Wait, what happened?

He had surgery already?

Yeah.

What's wrong with you?

We got it fixed up.

Oh, why you, man?

He said, oh, look.

He said he heard about them child support payments.

He said he didn't want none of that.

No, okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Get out there and have a little fun, man.

Yo, new girl.

Yeah, next year.

We ain't having no fun.

But Shadur looked good.

He looked good.

He looked really good last night.

He spoke really good after the game.

And the thing now is to build,

excuse me, is to build on what he did last night.

He also spoke about gifting teammates some new cleats.

Check this out, Ojo.

Yeah, I'm just excited for all of them.

I gifted a lot of receivers, the

prime DT96s.

You know, a couple of them had them on.

So I just gifted a couple of them, like the main receivers

going into this game.

You know, I gifted them some cleats.

Some wore them, some didn't, but I was like, okay, this is just my little appreciation gift to them.

Because they don't be having a lot in stock.

So I couldn't do everybody.

I wish I could.

But

yeah,

it's great.

Hey, the ones he won the game were were dope.

Yeah, those are the ones he talked about.

The game with the, they had the orange lining, like

for the brown color scheme, colorway.

Yeah, they was nice.

They was nice.

I think also, as a receiver, but for me, I wouldn't want a cleat that heavy.

No, the Deion cleats, I mean, they're heavy.

Based on the way they're made, I want a lightest shoe as possible.

So, I mean, they look good.

Time could have been out there in Tims and run 4-3.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

But

it all depends.

I was a, you know, I wore

TD bottoms.

Okay.

So I wore wide receiver cleats at tight end.

And tape your ankles.

So you, so you was, you were, you was good.

Yeah, because I'm a hard planner.

Right.

Me, even though I'm a hard planner, it's funny.

Reebok, obviously, was for Reebok back then.

Right.

Dad, Reebok, take all the lining out of my shoe.

I don't want any support.

i want my shoe to be just like a track shoe just like a track shoe i need to feel the floor i need to feel the floor when i stop when i go when i try to cut and transition i don't want anything restricting my ankles

when it's time for my lateral moon and and and and movements so all i had was a shell some shoelaces and cleats at the bottom that's it yeah

that's it

But you always wore a molded bottom.

You wore a tempo bottom.

Yeah, you didn't.

you didn't wear seven studs.

No, I had to have a choice but to wear seven studs.

When we played at Heinz Field, I think they let the field be messed up like that on purpose.

Yeah, the bitties be soggy, huh?

Oh, my goodness.

It's like, I don't know.

I don't know.

That was an advantage for them.

Yeah, for sure.

It's an advantage for them.

But yeah, that's the only time I wore seven studs is when we played at Heinz Field.

There's a video that's been making its way around courtesy of Bucky.

It's It's him confronting Brown's reporter Tony Grossi for not having anything positive to say.

Oh, Joe, let's take a look at this video.

Yeah.

I've been hoping you got something positive to say about me.

You only say negative stuff positive.

But I'm like, I ain't do nothing to you.

I ain't seen nothing positive.

I just don't posit everything.

Hey, that's dope, Monk.

I like it.

I like it because most of the time, those interactions like that, that's not how they go when it comes to players.

Most of the time, when it comes to a beat reporter that's been

established for that long as a Cleveland beat reporter, you know, when it comes to saying something negative, most of the time, the player challenges him in that manner because you've you've never said anything positive.

And I could just imagine, I haven't read any of the articles, and I could just imagine if the rest of the world has been somewhat negative towards Shador.

I could imagine what the person that's in-house that sees him every day writes.

So, the fact that they were able to do it with a smile, with class, with grace, and understanding, well, God damn, do you have anything nice to say?

Because everything I've seen so far has been negative.

I did nothing to you.

But obviously, the dude had the job to do.

You understand how to get the views.

You have to understand negativity.

Negativity, it will create traction.

Clickbait.

How can I get people to read what I'm writing?

Were you talking negative about the biggest thing going on right now in Cleveland outside of LeBron James when he was there?

Right now is Shador Sanders.

Robert Lattelle, Black Sports Online.

Grossi has been like this for 30 years.

Baker couldn't handle it.

Couldn't, I guess he was saying Baker could not have handled it shadur disarmed him in 60 seconds uh and changed his energy that's a gift not all people have for negative people

hey listen they'll smell they'll smile in your face they'll smile face uh obviously at that point and in that moment with shadur greeting him the way he did with class with grace but god damn are you gonna say anything i'm just waiting on you to say something nice yeah something

so the guy has has no, I mean, what can you say?

Especially after that performance.

Yeah.

What can you say?

And I know people say, oh, it's the preseason.

Oh, it's a small sample size.

Let's see what he does in the regular season.

I mean, it's still, this is all we have to go off.

So we're talking about what we saw in that specific case in that moment.

I'm curious to what he wrote today because I'm sure he has something to say today.

I think it's different for a quarterback because, you know, the eyes are all on you.

But I really never had no problem.

I was a seventh-round draft pick.

I wasn't supposed to be-ish anyway.

So

anything that I gave him, 20 catches, that was good.

But as I got, you know, I never had a problem with Mark Kisler, never had a problem with Woody Page.

I never had a problem with, who else, Jim Armstrong.

He was a columnist when I was there.

He was with the Indy Star.

Now,

I forget his name.

Shefton and I got to Denver at the same time.

Adam Shefton was a reporter in Denver, yeah.

Boy, Shefty been at this thing for a minute, boy.

Oh, yeah.

Who's the guy?

Buck

for the Indy Star.

Nah, he's the columnist.

He's the big guy.

Uh-huh.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Who's the big?

But he was in he was in Denver when I was there.

Right.

The first half.

I hate when I can't.

Scott Harmer.

No.

Come on, Denver.

Help me.

I know y'all in the chat.

Hey, somebody in the chat say Teddy look, I mean, Thanos looked like a skunk.

His colorway.

Teddy.

I mean, Thanos.

I want to learn how to whistle like this.

Huh?

You know how to whistle like this, huh?

No.

That should be loud as hell.

I want to learn how to do that.

Probably too late now.

Well, damn, I can't.

It's too...

I got it's a certain age, age group.

Why you trying to whistle like that now?

Because

I just never, I just, I don't know.

I'm going to a NASCAR event soon, and I want to be able to make sure I can whistle like that at the NASCAR event.

I'm going to take the

toner.

Yeah, yeah.

Remember, I told Bubba, I told Bubba I was coming, so I'm actually coming.

We got everything aligned, so I'm going down there.

I got my flannel, my cut-off sleeves.

I got my jorts.

I'm serious.

I got my jorts.

I'm ready.

The only problem is I don't drink as long as they got hot dogs, and I'm having my Coke with no ice, two hot dogs.

Nice little date

with my lady friend.

I know she's probably watching.

Man, what's that guy?

I can't think of his name, man.

Hey, chat, I got a poem.

Y'all want to hear it or you want to wait?

You want to save it for later?

We're going to save it for later.

Okay, okay.

I'll think about it.

All right.

Yeah.

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