Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Sanders shining in his first preseason game!

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That link is pinned in the chat. Ocho, Shador shines in his first preseason game, 11 of 19, 103 yards passing.
Two TDs, you know Coach Prime was fired up. Yes, Lord, yes, Shador Sanders.
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LeBron James even weighed in. That young king looking good out there.
Shadour Sanders, keep going up, head down, and grind, and head high to the most high. Jordan Schultz, text from a high-ranking AFC North executive on the Browns rookie.
Shador Sanders, it's early, but wow. Actually shocked how good he looks.
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Yeah. Ocho.
Yeah. Look, we can pick two plays, Ocho.
Well, damn, he missed the Sam Strong safety blitz. Well, he had a guy ride over to the flat on second and 18, and he skipped the ball to him.
But you saw that over route that Brock Purdy throws so well in the San Francisco offense. You see him fit the ball into those small windows.
Did you see him on the move, throw that touch pass? Now, the receiver made a great one-handed catch, but did you see the touch? Yes. So, take off your hand.
Listen, I wanted to see what Shadu would look like in a situation that wasn't advantageous to him. He didn't get any reps.
As many reps as he should to prepare himself, to be prepared for a game like this of this magnitude. Dylan Brooks hurt.

Kenny Pickett hurt. Joe Flacco not playing.
So the card that he was dealt to go into this game, can you be a leader of men? Can you go in? Calm. Show a presence of leadership.
Run the team. Command the team.
show that regardless of who's regardless of who's around you

you can still conduct yourself like quarterback one. He was calm, under pressure, went through his progressions, made some great throws, had some errant throws.
You know, obviously that's what film is for. That's what the precinct is for.
The fix, the nooks and the crannies to get him out. He looked like he belonged.
He looked different. He did.
Andrew Barry, you made the right call. There's a reason that you wanted him.
There's no reason he should have dropped as far as he did. You cannot tell me as any scout of those 32 teams that didn't need a starting quarterback, but those that needed a quarterback and were in need of one, watch film on Shador Sanders and what he did at Jackson State and what he did at Colorado and said, you know what? No, that's not my guy.
The quote you just read from the scout in the AFC North, If you watch film, what did you expect him to look

like? He looked exactly like he looked in Colorado. He looked exactly like he looked at Jackson State.
Calm under pressure, in the pocket, going through progressions, making the right throws. That's what we expected to see.
what they expected to see

and what some hope to see

might be two entirely different things talk to me now now hope man i show hope man i show hope this happens man versus expect to see what i wanted to see i wanted to see exactly what you what you wanted to see. I wanted to see exactly what you wanted to see.

I want to see, could he play with poise?

Could he throw the ball with conviction?

Could he be decisive?

Could he go through his progressions?

The pocket collapses.

Could he take off?

He showed me some of everything.

The over route.

Threw it on timing.

Guy in his face, let him boom.

Dropped it right in the bucket. He fit those balls.
Pressure in his face. The second route.
Threw it on timing. Guy in his face.
Let him boom. Dropped it right in the bucket.
He fit those balls. Hey, pressure in his face.
The second touchdown. Pressure in his face.
The first touchdown. The corner slumps off.
The flat. The safety is hugging him.
He fits it in. Gets it in.
Boom. On the move.
The touch pass over the top. As I mentioned at the top, the receiver did make a great play.
But Shadour had a nice loft.

That's not an easy throw to make.

He was impressive tonight. Very.

And a lot of people, they were in the chat last night,

let's see what Shadour does. Let's see what Shadour does.

Well... Hold on, hon.
You know

what they're going to say now? Oh, it's the preseason.

Oh, he's not playing against

their starters. Oh, he's playing against

the two. Hell, he didn't have the starters either.

Well, hello?

Talk to me. I didn't see Jared Judy.
I didn't see

Thank you. season.
Oh, he's not playing against their starters. Oh, he's playing against the two.
He didn't have the starters either. Well, hello? Talk to me.
I didn't see Jared Judy. I didn't see in Joe Koo.
I didn't see the starting offensive line. No, Cedric Tillman.
So this is what I have to say to those who are going to have another excuse. They're going to move the goalpost, right? They're going to move the goalpost and say, well, he wasn't going against the Panther starters.
Well, obviously, if he's not going against the Panther starters, or if he doesn't have his starters as well, and what he has at his disposal and look that good with the twos and threes, and maybe the fours that are trying to make the team, what do you think is going to happen when he has the main characters in there around him? That makes your job a little bit easier. That are a little bit better at their position than those that he's playing with tonight.
What you think gonna happen?

Well, they can try to move the goal post, but I ain't trying

to kick a field goal or PAT, so I'm

gonna score anyway. And Shadour Sanders score

tonight. I'm gonna give credit where it's due

14 to 23, 138 yards,

two touchdowns, no interception. He got

two sacks. Like I said, we can nitpick a

couple of things. Yeah, it's the strong safety,

the Sam Strong Safety blitz. You know what? But it looked like he like he was telling the guy bro i need you to hook up on that you probably not going to be able to outrun the safety lamar jackson hold on to the ball a little longer because he cannot run the safety josh allen same thing that's not should do it should do it's not a uh a mobile quarterback he's going to do all most the majority of his damage is going to be in the pocket.

Oh,

Joe,

Tom Brady.

I'm not saying he's Tom Brady,

but he has the athleticism.

That's not what he's known for.

Go ahead.

This is the thing.

When he lacks an athleticism and inability to get out the pocket,

he has gate.

He has great pocket presence.

I'm being,

being able to move and being able to not telegraph, but understand when that clock is ticking and when it's time to get up out of there. He can move extremely well within the pocket without having to take sacks.
What about the third down, huh? The third down, we scrambled. The D-line ran a stunt.
He was able to get outside of it. You know what I like the most most he saw the stunt and took off immediately yes yes that's what i like ocho that's what i like oh y'all oh i don't know who's supposed to go first and who's supposed to i don't know who's supposed to eat or who's supposed to t and i don't know who's supposed to eat but i'll tell you what i'm gone i'm gone yeah yeah i tell you what y'all figured out in film study tomorrow

but in the meantime in the meantime i'm about to pick up this for this uh i'm about to pick up the first down uh he's played himself he might have started after four but after this performance he can't be number four because here's the thing oh cho how he had told us something very, very interesting. He says, you can lose your job because of injury.
Because let me tell you what's going to happen. Yeah.
If you get injured and you're out and a guy comes in and he's playing better than you before you got injured, it's his job now. Ask yourself, was Dylan Gabriel before he got hurt, was he playing better than what you saw should do or sanders do tonight can you pick it ask yourself this question was he playing better than what should do or was what then what should do or play tonight yeah and so if you're gonna honestly ask us as answer those questions okay right and the thing about it what people need to understand for those that in chat, it's one thing to have joint practices.
It's one thing to practice against yourself and look good against your players. Yes.
Everything is scripted, huh? Everything is scripted, even defensively, in those joint practices at times because there are certain things they want to work on defensively and there are certain things that you want to work on offensively. When you get into the game, nothing, nothing is shared from team to team.
No. So it's a green light and everything going as if it's a real game.
You're working your scheme, your game plan, and all you have to do is execute it. In its simplest form, as simple as preseason games are from an offensive perspective in the way the players are called.
And he did that tonight to a hell of a job, one hell of a job tonight. And this is just something to continue to build off of.
Clean up. There were some mistakes, obviously.
There are going to always be mistakes, and then things you can get better at. And you continue to see different looks.
You're not going to get many looks. Obviously, it's the preseason.
Everything you see defensively will be very vanilla, you know, cover tool. Sometimes you might throw in, you know, man.
Don't count the plays, Ocho. Make the plays count.
Yeah. Oh, and listen, he made him count tonight.
That's what you have to do when you're a low-round draft pick, Ocho. Me being a – no, Mark.
Being a low-round draft pick, Ocho, you're not going to get the plays that a high-round draft pick is going to get.

No, not at all.

So don't go out there thinking that.

But when it's your time, shine.

Yes.

You got to.

When it's your time, shine.

And that, hey, when you say I don't count time, I make time count.

Well, I didn't count plays.

As my brother used to say, hey, I know you didn't get that many refs.

Keep your head up. Because one day, John Elway going to call for you.
He going to look for you. You need to make sure you're ready.
You need to make sure you're where you're supposed to be. Right.
Shador didn't get a whole lot of reps. But when opportunity presents itself, that's what luck is.
It's when preparation meets opportunity. Amundsen said some call it luck.
I'm glad you just said what you just said.

You just said Shadour didn't get as many reps as he should have in practice.

But he got into a game, and what did he do, huh?

Right.

But the ref that he did get in practice, he made those count.

Because a lot of times, I've seen it.

I don't know if you've seen it on show.

I've seen guys.

Man, I ain't getting no burn, man.

I can't. And then when you get out there, you effing up.
You're fucking up. Yeah.
My bad. Shador says, hey, these one or two reps I might get with the threes and fours.
Right. I got to make these counts.
Yeah. This has got to be my best work of the day.
Yeah. Because you know why, Ocho? It might be my only work of the day.
Yeah. So if it's my only, it's got to be my best because this is the only time they're going to see me on tape.
They see me standing behind and, you know, hey, I'm being part of a good throw, a good catch, good run, good job offensive line, good play call coach. But at the end of the day, I need to get an opportunity to show you what I can do.
And when the opportunity presents itself, that's what luck is. Preparation, meeting, opportunity.

Amundsen said some call it luck.

Hey, listen, I'm

happy for Young Bull.

I'm happy for Young Bull. This is one of the few times

I can't think of the last time that

everyone was excited

about wanting to watch a Cleveland

Browns game. Did you see

all them people in the stands with the 12

and with the signs? Did you see all

that Ocho? A Cleveland Browns game. Did you see all them people in the stands with the 12 and with the signs? Did you see all that old Joe? A Cleveland Browns game.
On the road. Cleveland don't travel like that.
Trust me. I was in the same division with the jokers.
And guess what? We used to play them. Same.
Same. They didn't travel like that.
Yeah. And they ain't got no reason to travel because they've been bad a long time.
Yeah. So, listen, tonight we saw a very small sample size.
We saw a very small sample size of what Shadour Sanders can look like. The fact that he played with the twos, with threes, maybe against twos and threes.
Yeah, for sure. I say this to say that.
What happens when he's with the ones having to run that same offense? Right. And you guess what? And you go and you game plan.
I'm just calling plays arbitrarily, Ocho. That's it.
That's all I do tonight. I'm not game planning.
I'm not game planning because we normally game plan game three. We go back and now the coaches go back and they look at what they did last season and we script a game plan.
That's going to be what we think we're going to see on first down, second down, third down, third and short, third and long, just down and distance area of the field. First and goal, second and goal, third and goal.
Now we're calling plays, not just to arbitrarily call plays. We're calling plays with a purpose For a purpose.
And eventually they're going to get to

that. But I was impressed.

Look, I understand it's the preseason.

But for someone that didn't get

as many reps, made

the reps that he did get, he made them count

in practice. And when he got his opportunity,

when the opportunity presented itself,

he took full advantage.

Tom Brady, the opportunity

presented itself. Which is, hey, when the rubber meet the what? When the rubber meet the road man and so he should be proud of himself you know him being who he is raised how he was raised I guess you raised livestock and animals.
But anyway, being raised how he was raised, he's not going to get too high, Ocho, because guess what? Even keel. Yeah, you got to stay even keel.
You know why? Because not only having to deal with the noise on the outside, that's one thing. But now you got to deal with the noise on the inside, especially with the owner coming out just last weekend.
That wasn't my pick. That wasn't my pick.
That's not who I wanted. Thank you, Mr.
Haslam. How you doing, Mr.
Haslam? Make sure Andrew Barry gets all the credit. Like you said, Brother Haslam, don't smile.
Don't even, don't say anything start with S. He said.
Don't even say sh. Don't even say sh.

The audacity.

Don't you say itch.

The nerve, the gall.

I'm appalled.

Well, I'm a David.

I'm going to say it one more time.

And this is for everybody in the chat.

Even if you don't like Shador, even if you don't like him,

how do you watch film, college film on Shador Sanders and every other quarterback that went before him and see what all of them have done and say, you know what? No, I'm a pass up on him. That's not the guy I want.
Right. New Orleans Saints, Pittsburgh Steelers.
I don't know what other teams that were in need of a quarterback. How do you do it? I'm just asking from a person that played the game of football and understanding.
I have an eye. I have an eye.
I played the game for a very long time at a very high level. I'm not saying I'm a scout, but I know what it's supposed to look like in situations that are not advantageous for you.

I just saw a young fella win at Jackson State, turn a Colorado program around that won one game.

Regardless of what his record was in its totality, 23 and 12, whatever it may have been,

I know what he can do when you got the right pieces around him.

I know what he can do.

He's a winner.

Regardless of what situation you put him in. And he showed it again tonight, yet again tonight.
With his back up against the wall. Yeah.
He just has the demeanor to be a quarterback. Nothing seems to impact him.
He doesn't get too high. He doesn't get too low.
He has the utmost confidence in himself most quarter most the good ones really do no matter how and we've seen it no matter how bad it might be going the really good ones you know if it's late in the ball game they got a chance to beat you yeah and and and shudder's in the situation where it's like doesn't make any excuses and he always says the right thing it's not it's listen it's not as easy as you think to always say the right thing because you're dealing with the human element of it, the human element of it, no matter how much you have, no matter how little you have, no matter how good you've been, no matter how bad you've been, you're dealing with the human element of it. And people have emotions, people have feelings.
And so sometimes when people lash and say things like damn man you know you you take the amount of time but he hears what's being written about him absolutely he's he hears he sees if he doesn't he's getting word is getting back to him but i just love the way the man he kept his head down closed off his ears and just did what he was supposed to do. He went to work.
Yeah. And that's how you, that's how you have to approach it.
Don't get mad. I ain't trying to prove y'all wrong.
I'm trying to prove me right. And in the process of proving me right, I'll prove you wrong.
It was, it was a great job. It was his first outing.
Like I said, those throws, it was the throws that he made, Ocho. Go back and take a look at that over ball.
And we see Brock Purdy throw three or four of those a game to IU. He used to hit Debo on those plays.
You'll kill him on the over. Look at how he threw that ball, the timing of it.
Do you understand the anticipatory skills you have to have as a quarterback with pressure coming at you? There was one overthrow he couldn't even see. Because on the replay, we couldn't even see him.
We just saw the ball come out. So he's anticipating where the receiver was going to be and he just made the throw and put it only where the receiver could catch it.
That first touchdown. What people saw tonight, I don't think they understand how difficult the game is.
I don't think they understand how difficult the game is. But he made it look like he's been doing it for a very long time.
It's his first time. It's his first time in an NFL game.
But he's used to it. Oh, Chad, look at his mannerisms.
Look how you walk on the first down. Okay, he almost did the Y celebration.
He said, you know what, I'm going to look at the time, but it ain't time yet. And just everything about him and being quarterback number one, just the way he carried himself.
He was ready for the moment. No matter what they did,

no matter what they said,

just put me in a situation,

just hand me the cards.

Give me the hand and I'm going to play it.

And he did that just exactly

how he should tonight.

The hand he was dealt,

he played the hand very well.

And it's only going to get better from here.

It doesn't go backwards.

You don't digress.

I'm excited.

And this is coming from a Bengal fan.

I'm excited too.

I'm excited for the Browns to finally maybe have the answer

at the quarterback position after trying 35 times over the years.

You know, man, listen, man, I can go on and on about this, but go ahead. You got it.
I think the thing is the biggest thing that an athlete can have is the ability to believe that he belongs, he or she belongs. I was a seventh round draft pick.
Shadou was a five. There was 12 rounds.
When I was a seventh, there were seven rounds. He's a fifth.
Yeah. But there is not one point in time that I didn't feel I belonged on that field because I saw a lot of these guys at the bowl games I saw these guys at combine and I read about them yeah and I remember I remember calling my brother uh at the east west shrine grass and he do not better than me they're not better than me I don't care what they say yeah I remember going to the combine and that man I you know you know what you think you read I say probably four six four seven I say but they not better than me.
I don't care what they say. Yeah.
I remember going to the combine. I said, man, I, you know, what you think you read? I said, probably four, six, four, seven.
I said, but they're not better than me. They might be faster than me, but they're not better than me.
I belong in the NFL. And when I went to Denver, all those guys that went before me, I'm like, ain't no way.
I remember asking myself, how in the hell did you get drafted before me yeah i said but don't worry about it don't worry about it i said it won't be long it won't be it was like the cat when a girl said boy the cat got his tail caught in the washing machine you know what he said ocho he said it won't be long now he said she didn't know what he was talking about his tail wouldn't be long anymore or it wouldn't be long for it all be over yes sir yeah man that's when we put the pads on oh cho yeah for i'll never forget because you know rookies we went to camp before the vet so we would go like a couple days before the vet so we would already be practicing right Right. In Denver, before we headed up to Greeley.

Right.

I saw them.

They were nervous, Ocho, like a long-tailed dog with a porch full of rocking chairs.

You know, if somebody leaned back, it's going to be able to say,

you know what I'm talking about now.

I saw them.

They were nervous.

I said, oh, yeah.

That's all I need to see.

Just a little fear.

Just a little fear in a man's eyes.

That's my greatest ability. Yes.
Another man's fear. Yeah.
I like it. I like it.
And listen, I know we've been talking about Shadour, but listen, remember what I told you about the Panthers, right? Remember what I told you about the Panthers? If there's a dark – hey, Chad, stay with me real quick. If there's a dark horse team that I believe in this year that is going to creep up and maybe make it run into the playoffs, I said it would be the Panthers.
They didn't look bad. Bryce Young didn't look bad.
Jalen Coker went crazy tonight. T-Mac, the rookie from Arizona, looked good tonight.
I know Xavier Lekin got thrown out, getting into a little tussle. Listen, I love the passion.
It's just preseason. That's fixable.
That's fixable. But again, look how the Panthers look early in the game.
For those, I know everybody tuned in to watch the door, but I'm telling you right now, and I said it first, someone that's not much of a Panther fan, didn't play for the organization, they owe me nothing. I'm telling you, the dark horse team

for this season,

the Carolina Panthers, Bryce

Young, and that receiving core.

I'm telling you. Watch.

Ocho, I ain't never been that hard

in a preseason game.

No?

The tussle? Hell no!

They were going at it.

They were going at it.

I don't really got no tussle in practice. Bro.
Because I'll tell you what Dan Reed's going to say. You fighting, that means we ain't working hard enough.
Mike Shanahan say the same thing. We ain't working hard enough.
Bro, it ain't like it is now, bro. Them two-hour, two-and-a-half hour practice, man, please.
With pads and your head on pads. Oh, let me take that back, Ocho old joe you have on they call it see what they call shells with shoulder pads and shorts right it's not shells like they call it now basically got those little fitted uh uh styrofoam stuff on that was not shells when when i got in the 90s shells with shoulder pads and shorts shorts yeah and you know we hit back then

9 on seven was live. Live, yep.
Team was a solid third up. It wasn't no touch the guy on the two-hand turn.
Oh, no. You put shoulders on him.
You put pads on him. You better come to balance and be ready i remember dennis smith uh we call him kahuna and atwater man they come down in that box well we had thumpers back then oh yeah man please atwater coming down here now and atwater wasn't the thumper like dennis smith kahuna was the thumper number 49

whoa whoa whoa more than yes yes lord ocho i saw that joke a at 205 210 yeah i saw him sit lineman sit lineman on the ass they pulling he ain't never go low right up high wouldn't i showed in their chest and sit them them down at 210 at 210. hey go back if y'all can find it go back and check the tape he hit roosevelt potts they both ran he pots come through the hole he hit him he was out cold uh marion butts hey if you if you were charging fan you know who, because back then, Ocho, they had a big old, big running back.
They had big Marion Butts. They had Rod Bernstein.
They had Joe Caravello. Big Joe Cox.
I mean, the tight ends were like 300 pounds. Offensive line, mammoth offensive line.
Kahuna run through him. Go back and look at that play with Dennis Smith.
He hit Marion Buss and he hit Roosevelt Potts. Yeah.
You know who else was a thumper too? Remember Donovan Darius? Yeah. Yeah, I played against DD at Jacksonville.
But that was back in the 90s. You had Chuck Cecil.
You had Mark Carrier from Chicago. Boy, back then, it wasn't nothing defenseless about that.
They said, you got him in his shoulder pads. What the hell you thought was going to happen when you come across the middle? Oh, yeah.
You're going to get that work. What? You're going to get that work.
Rodney Harrison. Oh.
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The Lions-Falcons game was

suspended after safety

Maurice

Norris suffered a serious injury

in the fourth quarter. Norris' head

appeared to snap back after hitting

the leg of Falcons running back Nathan

Carter doing a tackle attempt. He stayed down after the play was over and ended up leaving the field in an ambulance um that's it especially the preseason right seem to be doing more of that now ocho um it's hard at college ocho we moved the power if somebody got hurt right move it up five yards they did but am I lying yeah even in the pros hey it don't matter what happened patella Achilles neck injury head injury they moved that bag up five yards they let the training staff deal with that and we continued on with practice college and the pros I ain't telling what somebody somebody told you.
I'm telling you what I know. Yeah, I've seen it.
It seems like we've gotten a little more empathetic. Right.
And times have changed. They're like, man, that's a little callous, don't you think? You know, man, you know, serious injury.
But I hope the young fella is okay. I saw this.
Prayers for him.

Prayers up for him.

Hold on.

I'm trying to find that game right quick.

Dang.

I'm trying to get it to pop up, the game.

You see right here?

Oh, there it is right there It just finally popped up Nah, it's Hey, what's that? Uh, you know, you'd be watching it Identicate fighters obey. Maybe you can't oh there it is right there, damn It's the Lions Falcons, I'm looking all over But yeah, hopefully young fella Thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family Obviously the family's watching It's pre It's a preseason game, Mocho, and they're watching to see their brother, their cousin, their friend, son, go out there and to see this happen.
Obviously, everybody's on pins and needles, so praying that everything is okay. He has do we know if he has use of his extremities? But our thoughts and prayers go out to the Norris family.
Hopefully everything works out okay, and he'll be back real, real soon. Tom Brady, statue was unveiled at Gillette Stadium.
Unfortunately, Ocho, he can't get one unveiled on a Sunday because he's busy on Sundays.

Right, right. So with that, so they had to do it in the preseason.

Let's take a listen to what Tom had to say.

Yeah.

But in the end, this statue isn't just for Pats fans.

It'll also give all the Jets fans something to throw their beers at

as they leave the stadium every year.

Probably in the second quarter.

Maybe the third that's a good talk hey you know what ocho i met i met i mean um my last pro bowl yeah i met tom brady met his family met all his sisters uh he was great he's always been great to me every time he see me he has a a memorabilia uh museum in the fountain blue yeah got an invitation went uh went to it got an opportunity to talk to him great offered him some insight on things so forth and so on he said i really appreciate that said uh that means that means a lot because uh you're very good at you do. So have an opportunity to talk to him.
But if anybody deserves a statue, the only thing I've met about, 12 feet tall, it need to be 20 feet tall. It need to be like the Empire.
It need to be like a Statue of Liberty. Absolutely.
But what that mofo did. Yeah, listen, the greatest.
When we talk about the greatest quarterback of all time. Accolades, man.
Some of the games he's played. Listen, that New England-Atlanta game, that game alone, that 28-3 comeback alone deserves a trophy, a statue by itself.
Yeah. Uncle, you can play a video game.
You can play Madden, and you can let somebody score 28 points, and you have three. The chance of you coming back on a video game is slim to none if you're playing somebody that's good, let alone to do it in goddamn real life.
Do you know how many things have to go right for you? Yeah. To be able to come back in an NFL game of that, a game of that magnitude? Mm-hmm.
Down 28 to three? What are we talking about? We'll be talking about it forever. Unbelievable.
Yeah. You know, the Bills came back and beat Houston.
They were down, what, 30? What were they down? They were down 32-3. They ended up winning.
Remember, Minnesota came back and beat the Colts. They were down, what, 33-0, some odd score, but the Super Bowl.
That's the difference. And the guy that you're going against is the league MVP.
Mm-hmm. Hey, I got a question.
Yes. I want a statue.
Well, you better go to what's your high school? At Miami BC, high time. You better go in there and tell them you're going to go half on one.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I want mine at Paycourt Stadium.
This is what I'm

going to do. The Browns don't have to

do it. I'm going to pay

for it, and I'm going to just put

it out there myself.

No.

Statues, I mean, Lamar

Jackson will have one next to Ray Lewis

in Baltimore. Patrick

Mahomes should have one.

Peyton Manning has one

in Indy. Tom

Thank you. Mark Jackson will have one next to Ray Lewis in Baltimore.
Right. Patrick Mahomes should have one.
Obviously Peyton Manning has one in Indy. Right.
Tom Brady goes without saying. I mean, you know, like, you know, with Kobe and Shaq and Kareem, like the Lakers, they got – they got – okay, come on.
Hold on. Hold on.
I mean, some things you're just like – Hold on. Listen.
Well, Bengals, 85. When you see the number 85, what's the first thing you think of? You know what, Ocho? I need a statue.
If you'd have, if you'd have Jerry's numbers, Randy's numbers, T.O.'s numbers, you know what, Ocho? I don't, I don't have their numbers, you know, but the hand I was, the hand I was dealt, I played that motherfucking hand very well. And I just – matter of fact, I'm going to put this in.
I'm going to go to Home Depot. I mean, think about the guys that got statues, Ocho.
Yeah. Sugar, two-time defensive player of the year.
I think he went to 12 Pro Bowls. He's probably eight, nine-time All-Pro, probably seven-time first-team All-Pro.
Super Bowl MVP. We talk about Peyton Manning.
Like at the Hall of Fame, you have somebody as what they call a presenter. Now, he'll go up there and plead your case, Ocho.
So let's just say I'm a writer in Cincinnati. I go up in the room, I plead Ocho's case.
Ocho is a this many time pro bowler. He led the league in this.
He did this. He had this many games.
Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning, and you sit back down. Tom Brady, and you sit back down.
I don't know, for no explanation. Peyton Manning.
Yeah. Tom Brady.
What am I explaining? What do I say, Ocho?

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, right?

So this is what you do, right?

Yeah.

You look at circumstance.

Yes.

What it was like before I got there, right?

Yeah.

32nd worst team in the league.

I think y'all was 28 when you were there.

32nd.

Hold on.

Stay with me now.

Stay with me.

Hold on.

Stay with me.

I get there, right?

Yes.

And I gave the city L.

Put us back in the national spotlight.

You hear me?

I can sell out. I can sell out of stadium.

Was it because you're winning or was it because you're antics? No, it's called entertainment. Hold on.
What is football? What is football? Entertainment what? Yes. But I'm saying, was it because you guys were winning or was it because you were entertaining? What's more difficult to do? To be losing and still put butts in the seat? Because who wants to come watch that? Y'all ain't got nothing else to do.
Shit me? What y'all gonna do? Go across the river and go to Louisville? The Kentucky Derby ain't going on that time of the year. Ain't nobody wanna eat no Skyline chili.
Jordan said it ain't that good anyway. I never had Skyline Chili.
I ate at Waffle House in Covington and I had McDonald's who was right across the street from me. But needless to say, I'm going to put my own statue.
And they're going to have to take it down. Well, good luck with that.
Let me know how that worked out for you. But I was looking at Brady's statue and all the accolades that it had on it all the super the roman numerals for the super bowl and the super bowl mvps and the regular season mvps and the 5 000 yard passing season and all this and all that when you look at it you just like i mean the man played what he played 23 seasons seasons.
If you chop his seasons up, 7-7-7, he's at no worse the second greatest quarterback ever. If you just take his first seven seasons, okay, Ocho, take his middle seven seasons.
Okay, Ocho, take his last seven seasons.'ll be hard to say that he's not top two, top

three, even with that.

Yeah, absolutely. You know what that reminds me of, too?

With that. It's reference to give people

context. Take

Kobe when he was 24

and take Kobe when he was

number eight. It's the same

thing. Yes.
It's almost

identical

even where he reinvented himself and changed his number

yes

sold more jerseys

yeah

it's kind of like when LeBron went to Miami

and got 6

yeah

he was 23 in Cleveland

he goes to Miami he's 6

he goes back to Cleveland

he's 23

he goes to LA he's 23

doesn't he get 6 again

I'm going to get it. Goes to Miami, he's six.
He goes back to Cleveland, he's 23. He goes to L.A., he's 23.
Didn't he get six again? Or he always said, oh, what you call him, said he moved. He changed numbers, Anthony Davis.
LeBron was never six in L.A., was he? I think he was. He was.
Yeah. But, man, but Tom, congratulations.
I mean, if anybody is deserving of a statue, and there have been some people in history that was very deserving, but when we're talking about sports, man, I wouldn't even be mad if they retired number 12 across the league. Hold on.
Well, let's retire 85, too. No? No.
Damn. Man, Ocho, you can't just retire the number, man.
Like I said, you know what, Ocho? You might have a compelling case if you had Jerry's number. Who? No.
I have a compelling caseerry's numbers no you don't to retire 85 across the league hey listen hey ask the chat right now when you see the number 85 what's the first thing that come to your mind no matter what team it is ask him tell ass to put up a poll when you see the number 85 what is the first thing that comes to mind what you're tripping nick bonacani and let me say something see it's hard for the old folks to understand right yeah what i did for the game what i did for the game is so much bigger than numbers folks really don't need they don't even realize it it's a statue for your word for your uh your word spoken word speech hey I got another I got another spoken word I can you want to hear it well I 32 thousand people in the chat want to hear it okay okay here we go hold on hold. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hey, Uncle, you froze.

Did I?

Yeah, you're not moving.

Yeah.

Oh, is that?

That ain't never on my Wi-Fi.

Talk to me.

I'm frozen.

Is that on your end? It ain't on my end I'm gonna wait to You can hear me right? Yes Okay Yeah my wife I got all my bars I'm at a cigar bar. What we need to hear, Dash.
Hey, Chad, y'all get ready for this spoken word. I was on a plane coming from New York the day I left New York around 2 o'clock, and I sat down and I wrote something very special that I think I think y'all would like.

Let me let me let me know you ready. I'm waiting to unfreeze.

Detective say we're not ready yet.

Hey, I'm disappearing. Chat, y'all still there okay okay the chat can hear me okay hey chat listen listen chat while unk is situated so excuse me i you know, I do spoken word, you know, I have, I have many jobs, I have many hobbies, many passions that I like, and I love, and, oh, are we good? Okay, and chat, I do spoken word, a lot of people don't know about that, but again, I tell people all the time, I was a drama major, I was a theater major.
And this is just a part of something that

I've always been passionate about. And I have something that I wrote that I want y'all to hear

tonight. And this is for the ladies.
Let me know you ready, Ron. I'm ready.

Your smile is like a sunrise chasing away the night. Sometimes I look at the clouds and your touch is like a gentle breeze, a warm and soft light.
My heart. Forever yours.
A love so true. For you, my love, it will always be true.
For beneath the wings that I have, you will always be the one that I call on. If at any moment you're feeling sad just remember one thing my love is only for you.
How was that, Al? You like that? i mean it's it's it's it's not uh lorenz tate love jones but uh it's it's getting better yeah that was it was getting better right like that yeah yeah that was that was real that was sentimental like that came from the heart you see there you go right there look at you see how you do what they did they see how they got you yeah Yeah, that's me. Well, God, what's wrong with me? Boy, you got a mile full of teeth now.
Hey, listen, I wrote that on the plane. I wrote that on the plane coming back from New York, you know, earlier today.
And I'm just, you know, I'm getting better. I'm getting better.
And at some point, I'm looking to write a book on all my poems. And I think that would be, you know, a New York bestseller.
Okay. Yeah.
That's definitely possible, Joe. I like that.
Matter of fact, this is, this is, we might really be on to something because what we can have is is you know how we do um spell spell ocho a little single fellow single fellow single we can have every so often a segment where i do spoken word and give y'all some of my art okay okay okay yeah. You know, we're working on it.
We can come up with a segment, The Spoken Word by Ocho. Right.
I like that. I like that.
I like that. Hey, Chad, I appreciate y'all and enjoying that.
And that came from the heart. But there haven't been many more deserving players in the history of our game.

Yes, sir.

That deserve this as much as Brady.

Yeah.

You know, we, uh,

you address Mr. Brady, but when you meet him, you call him Tom.

Uh, cause you know, I mean, a lot of people don't like for you. I mean, we're teammates.
We call everybody by their last name,

but everybody don't like me. Call about the last name.

Especially if you don't know him like that, right?

You call somebody by their last name. People feel like you really know me.

You are, you know them, them. But Tom is, he's amazing.
I mean, he doesn't like, even like when I was on Undisputed, I thought I was fair. Some people say I'm overly critical of Tom, but you know, when Tom played well, I'd give him his credit.
When he plays bad, I'd say, okay, he played bad. But he was always like, hey, I got to give you credit.
You definitely call it like you see it. But like I said, some people you just meet and they're like, great.
And I can see why his teammates like him. I really can.
The little bit that I've been around in Mocho, I can see why they like him. I can see why everybody likes it.
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Yeah. Gino Smith, the Max Crosby, caught making obscene gestures towards Seahawks fans.
In photos and videos that have circulated on social media, a Seattle fan appeared to make a gesture and say something towards Smith, who played five seasons in Seattle, as Raiders waited outside their tunnel to take the field. Smith responded by holding up both his middle fingers toward the fan before running onto the field.
Crosby made the same gesture while running on the field. Going to probably cost him.
Roger, you know, Roger, not going to be happy about this. Yeah.

That's probably 25.

What do you think, 25 or 50?

Preseason game, I've seen Jester just a middle finger.

I'd say maybe 20, 20.

Listen, first offense, there's no need to go crazy with the fine.

Just send a message.

Listen, this is something that we're not going to allow.

We know the fans can be rowdy. You're returning back where you played.
They're going to

say some nasty things to you.

Control yourself. Be able to control your emotions.

It got the best of you in that

situation, so we're going to, boom, here's a slap on the

wrist. We're going to take 20 from you.

Let's make sure it doesn't happen again.

I like the fact that Max Crosby

stood up for his teammate.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah, I mean,

Thank you. I like the fact that Max Crosby Stook up for his teammate Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, absolutely

Yeah, I mean

He might be

Look, if you're on my team

You might be effed up

You messed up to us

You ain't effed up to them

Right

So, nah, we're not finna get down like that

We ain't let you say nothing slick

About our teammate Right I like it And you know what, Ocho? Hell, we might not like him just as much as you don't. But guess what? In front of company? Yeah.
In front of company? Yeah. That's a whole different ballgame.
Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's probably going to be 25,000.
Yeah. You know, hey, if song because that's not you know roger you know they'll the wording of it that's not you know that's not what we want to portray or project uh to our fans we wanted to say that we appreciate our fan right um and we do but when you start flipping the fans off i mean flipping the players off everybody ain't gonna everybody ain going to be cool with that, Ocho.
No, listen, everybody's not going to like you too, especially when you play for a team for a very long time, you return back to that same team, and you know how fans are. They traded him.
Why you mad at him? That's not the way they think. That's not the way they think.
They always say, oh, you're dis're disloyal their loyalty lies with that team so when you come back and you're on another team

win another jersey oh you know they're gonna go crazy they're going to go crazy

yeah they're gonna go crazy but that's neither here nor there they're gonna be all right yeah

cd lamb was asked which cowboys db has given him hell in training camp his response

I'm sorry. that's neither here nor there they're going to be alright yeah CD Lamb was asked which Cowboys DB has given him hell in training camp his response, honestly none of them they haven't given me hell but I will say it's great competing with these guys that's what he should say I mean who they got over there ain't no Pastor Tans ain't no Tyves, ain't no Revis's ain't't no Niels Williams, ain't none of them, ain't no great I mean, hey, Diggs was on that trajectory, but injuries kind of robbed him of some of that what he possessed.
Yes. So, you know, but he was really like, he's like, he was a receiver coming out of high school, so he has great hands, he has great anticipatory skills.
So the best thing to do for you is double move him. Yeah.
Because he's looking, hey, now he's going to get you. He's going to win some.
You're going to win some. But you just make sure you know when you win because he's going to take a chance now.
He's going to take a chance. And so I think the injury, the knee, I think he had another.
What did he have? I think he had another. I think he tore his ACL one year, and then he had another injury this past season.
And so I think it's a situation that's kind of robbed him of some of his ability. But I expect CeeD to win.
When we talk about the Cowboys too, I think when Trayvon Diggs went out, is it Deron Bland? I'm not sure if I'm saying this right, Chad. Y'all let me know if I'm saying this right or if I'm saying this right.
Deron Bland, when he came in, he played exceptionally well.

Yes.

He played exceptionally well, interceptions,

and he was making play after play after play.

Pick six after pick six.

Yeah, I'm not sure if he's back.

I think he might be injured as well.

And if there's any type of competition that would probably give CeeDee Lamb troubles, it would probably be Brother Land based on his skill set now, how good he is, and he's familiar with CeeDee Lamb's game. But other than that, I don't see anybody in camp that would give CeeDee any issues.
Yeah, especially if he's in the slot. I mean, it's hard, man.
Yeah. Because the thing is, like, when you're in the slot, Ocho,

I'm trying to bump you into people.

I'm trying to push you into such and such.

And he's trying to do the exact same thing.

But when there's nobody there over, just me and you,

and he in the slot, do you know where this man can go?

He can win that every time.

Yes.

Listen, CeeDee Lamb is very, very, very, very savvy.

Very savvy.

And the mismatch is once he goes in that slot. It's so much.
He can run Zorro. He can run the whip.
He can run the shallow. He can run the basic cross.
He can run a seven. He can run a sail.
He can run an out. He can run a post.
He can run a far cross.

Yeah. He can't defend all that.
Yeah, it's too much. And plus

ain't nobody rushing the quarterback.

Yeah.

But

no, look, CD is, you know,

I like your response.

I ain't got no problem with that. Hell, ain't nobody really giving

me hell. I just like to compete.

You got to talk

like that, too. You got to talk like

that, too. You know, when we talk

We'll be right back. I ain't got no problem with that.
Hell, ain't nobody really giving me hell. I just like to compete.
Listen, you got to talk like that, too. You got to talk like that.
Shoot, you know, when we talk about the best five receivers in the game right now, see, Lamb's name is always in the conversation at some point. He might not be one or two, but in that three, four, and five, his name comes up.
So when we ask you about somebody giving you trouble in camp,

or who's giving you the most, it shouldn't be nobody.

If I pay you $34 million, nobody better give you

no, you better not have no problem with nothing.

With nothing.

Unless you on the team with

Sertan or Stingley or some Ramsey

or somebody like that. Other than that,

oh no.

Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
or Stingley or some Ramsey or somebody like that other than that oh no Aaron Rodgers was asked by CBS Sports to create the perfect receiver based on speed size hands high pointability and football IQ Rodgers selected Randy Moss high, high pointability, Julio Jones for speed.

He added two of his former teammates for the mix, Devontae Adams for

football IQ and Jordy Nelson for

hands. And then he selected DK

for size. What did he get right?

What did he get wrong, Ocho? I think I

like that. High pointability,

he got Randy Moss. Absolutely.

He got Julio.

Then he got football IQ, Devontae, Jordan for hands, DK for size. Okay.
Well, obviously, there's a very important aspect in that that's missing, and that would be foot and route running. I guess they didn't give him that.
Yeah. They said speed size, hands high pointability, football IQ yeah, well we're going to add we're going to add fit work and route running which is very very vital importance when it comes to all that stuff you just named is great but if you ain't able to create no goddamn separation we're just going to throw my name in the pot because Aaron Rodgers would have probably said me anyway when it came to that.
Boom. You're going to say you? Yeah, we're definitely going to say me.
Hey, still to this day, I still have the greatest feet ever known to man to ever touch grass. The greatest, listen, my feet, matter of fact, this is what's so funny, this is what's so funny, right? Everyone else in the NFL, in the history of the NFL, all receivers got paid based on their ability to play the position and catch the ball.
I'm the only receiver in the history of the game. On my contract, we are paying you millions of dollars simply because of your fee.

It's on my contract.

I can show it to you.

I got a copy of it at the house.

They paid me millions of dollars simply for my fee, which is unbelievable.

I was the first and the last in the history of the game.

I can prove it to you.

I promise you.

I tell you no lie.

I'm going to put my three fingers up like 45 and 47 dude I mean theoretically I mean you wanna say size you could say I mean Randy I mean Randy could be for speed too Tyreek for speed Julio I mean I got a question please tell you remember when Randy caught that hitch route against the

Dallas Cowboys on Christmas.

Was that Thanksgiving?

That might've been Thanksgiving.

Yeah, I remember.

The DB took the wrong angle and he outran the, uh, the, the,

not pursuit.

What's the word?

What's the word?

Uh, not pursuit.

He outran the angle.

Oh my God.

That's not supposed to happen, huh? No. That's not supposed to happen.
I mean, look, if you let him unwind now, because he a long strider, you let him unwind on you. It's a wrap.
You taking seven steps is two of his. Yeah.
Oh, he came in and, you look, 17 touchdowns as a rookie. I don't know if we're going to see that any time soon.
He was different. He was.
He was different. He was.
And the stuff he – man, they got – right before the half, this Joe caught a pass. We had him trapped in the middle of the field.
He threw it back over his head to Mo Williams

to run in for a touchdown.

Yeah, I remember that. I said, man,

what is this? And boy, they let that

count.

Boy, they

started going crazy. I said, oh,

man. Yeah, I said, it ain't looking good

for the home. It ain't looking good for the business.

That was us.

But I like

high pointability, Randy, because

Randy had tremendous leaping ability.

Football IQ, you like

Devontae. Jordy like

Jordy's hands. DK,

I mean, it's hard to argue. 6'4",

230. Huge.

And can run.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So, I like his list.
Nick Chubb says he belongs in the Derrick Henry category entering age 30 season. Chubb said he believes he can join Henry in remaining a top running back despite general expectation of age-related decline past 30.
Henry is different. You're not going to put him in that category he showed is not true, and I think that applies to me.
I'm in a category with them. I'm different.
I feel good as I've been. Ocho, what is your expectations for Chubb with the Texans? I think he's going to be fine.
I think we view Chubb a little bit differently now because of the injuries. We should.
Yeah, listen, but Chubb should be in the conversation exactly with Derrick Henry, and I think he would be if it wasn't for the ACL injury. He would be based on the trajectory in which he was on.
Very good. Very circle back.
He could get his head off the goal post. Very, very difficult to tackle.
The first man ain't never bringing him down. Ever.
He was exactly like Derrick Henry in a sense. Different style of back in a sense, you know, but still.
Yeah, maybe I would agree with you had he not had those injuries. I mean, he tore his ACL in college.
I think this is the second time he's torn in the NFL. But listen, can he do what Adrian Peterson did? We're going to find out.
We're going to find out. Well, last year was his Adrian Peterson season when he came back.
Remember? He came back. Yeah.
Now, look, people need to stop there because what AP did, everybody think, oh, man, you see what it – bro. Right.
AP isn't normal. He wasn't normal.
Nah. You're not supposed to tear your ACL in December and come back and be the MVP the following year,

rush for 2097.

He's the last running back.

He's the last non-quarterback to win the MVP.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That was 2012.

That's crazy.

And unless somebody does have that type season again,

they're not winning it.

Quarterback just puts up too many numbers, don't you?

Yeah.

I mean, listen, and matter of fact, even with the game,

the way it is now is the pass heavy league.

Thank you. and not winning it.
Quarterback just puts up too many numbers, don't you? Yeah. I mean, listen, and matter of fact, even with the game the way it is now, it's a pass-heavy league.
How long before you think we see Adrian Peterson type back again anyway? It's going to be a very long time. Yeah, because Adrian Peterson was a collision back.
And most backs, you know, Saquon don't run the collision. No, no.
Derrick Henry is a collision back. Yeah most backs of the, you know, Saquon don't run the collision.

Derrick Henry is a collision back.

Yeah, but I don't,

but to be able to,

but think about it, Ocho,

to be able to collide that long

and to pack up those yards,

you look at the guys,

look at Earl Campbell with a collision back.

He got seven years.

Yeah, but also,

you view Adrian Peterson as a collision back,

but he's also a back that can shake you and take it to the, and hit the he could. But he ran the contact.
Listen, Adrian Peterson was looking to run you over. And then when you brace yourself to get run over, now he's going to shake your ass up.
Come right by you. Yeah, yeah.
It's a funny thing. Adrian Peterson is the type of back that will instill fear in you first in the game Matter of fact, remember when Ray Lewis saw Ray Lewis in that defense, saw Adrian Peterson for the first time? And it was the first running back to have over 100 yards against that defense? There were some collisions in that game now.
Oh, yeah. It's yeah, but

he says he belongs in that category

and maybe people would be willing to put him

in that category, but it's hard

when you're coming off of three ACLs

before the age of 30.

Three or two? Didn't he tear his ACL

in college? Yeah, he tore it in college, but

he tore it with the Browns. That's only two.

How many times

did

Chubb tear his knee?

Just two?

Just two.

So once in college and once in?

Yep.

Okay.

My mistake.

Thanks for the correction.

But this last thing was severe.

Yeah. He tore his ACL.
What does he tearing? PCL, MCL? Ash is looking for that. Point ACL, MCL, damage the remedial cast of the message.
Yeah. Yeah, he had a severe...
I mean, it was almost like Robert Edwards. Remember Robert Edwards? Oh, yeah, when he messed up playing on the sand.
Playing on the sand. He played with the dog.
Yeah. Napoleon McCallum, he had a very serious injury like that, too.
Yeah. I think it was a uh napoleon mccallum did what he did um as a matter of fact that might have been and then in georgia he didn't tear his acl okay but everything else but his.
Okay. In the same knee or different knee?

Oh.

It's going to be hard for that knee not to be arthritic.

Yeah, he's going to be bone on bone.

Good boy. Hey, Chubb over there in Tennessee, huh?

No, he with the Texans.

Yeah, I'm thinking the T.

The T word, Texans. That's right.
Him and him and mixing that's a nice little combo too boy that's a nice little one two combo but it kind of almost the old Oilers went to Tennessee but I don't think that's what you meant I meant to say I just heardword. But listen, they got two of the same back.
Yeah, I guess they want to, you know, get a lead and run the air. I don't want to have to throw it.
Yeah. The Dolphins had a disappointing joint practice with the Bears today.
Tua, three interceptions. Alexander Madison, two fumbles.
And Mike McDaniels had to break up a fight. Yay! Ocho? Yeah.
What you thinking about your three interceptions, two fumbles? And you fighting? Yeah. I don't, listen, I don't take much from that.
Obviously, that's what practice is for. In practice, you're going to have mistakes.
You're going to have turnovers. That's where the mistakes need to be made.
But let's see what happens tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken. They play tomorrow, right? I think so.
Yeah, let's see what they look like in the game when the lights are on. Like, practice is one thing.
It's the same. There's really no pressure.
Defensively defensively all you gotta do is read and react there's no there's no penalty for touchdown I think it's I take it with a grain of salt in a sense and like okay listen this is what we need to work on we can't be doing this we can We can't be doing that. I know the stat line, it looks bad.

The fighting, it's preseason.

It's practice.

You know, joint practice.

Name one joint practice where they don't fight.

We talk about it every year.

I'm just saying, have we played that bad?

Oh, we practicing after that practice.

Mike Cheney, I'm going to have us out there practicing after that.

Ain't no way John's going to throw three interceptions,

TD, Ju, foam the ball two times, and we fight? And you think you go into the locker room? Oh man, please. Yeah.
I don't know where they do that at. I know one thing.
If you look that bad in practice, in a joint practice, if you look that bad with a stat line like that. Yeah.
When you get out there in the first preseason game, because I know because I know the ones are going to play.

Mike McDaniels has to allow the ones

to play because if you look like that, then you

have to have them play to make sure they get

whatever kinks or whatever going on, whatever

you need to get right and get

fixed, you're going to start it right now.

I doubt

it looks like that in the game.

Look, I don't know how anybody else did it,

but I just know, oh, you're not finna make no mistake

and then talk about, okay, yeah, we good.

No, hell, we not.

Nah, nah.

Hey, Mike, be down there, run it again.

Nah, we got it.

No, hell, we don't.

You not finna end on no bad play.

You not finna end on no mistake.

Have a pick. Have a fumble and a drop five plays six plays into a 10-play period right and see what you started over because i don't know what y'all i i i don't know what y'all did last night right but you're not going to come out and do it today oh no and you know you take stuff for granted ocho you're like man come on right but you as you get an appreciation for it yeah and you understand why why you did certain things and the benefits of it from him doing it that way because at the time like man bro we ain't got but two three more plays left and we're gonna start the whole period back over no just start just start that just run that play again man that man started the whole period over like it wasn't nothing right without a care in the world he's like uh y'all y'all got other jobs? I mean, what's going on? Because, I mean, you're like you're trying to get out of here.
You got somewhere to go. Yeah.
This is your job. Yeah, you're right.
So, I tell you what, we started finding you. Drop a pass drop it on on Friday it's ten dollars jump offside five dollars ten dollars oh interception oh yeah man we feel like to do this man come on now yeah yeah we had a little we had a little pot too in Cincinnati you know drop the drops miss blocks you know put a You know, put a little...
And at the end of the year,

I forgot how it went, but somebody

got that money.

I forgot who it was, but

listen, when you have practices like that,

obviously there's an advantage for the defense

anyway, because all they're doing is reading and reacting.

They are reading and reacting,

and I think what, camp has been

almost two weeks now? Almost two weeks? The defense is going to be so far ahead of the offense, especially in the joint practice. So I take that with, you know, with a grain of salt.
Okay, boom, we have things to fix. But on game day, it's completely different.
It's going to be completely different. I don't think, look, I've had a lot of joint practices.
I don't think we ever had a day. I can never remember three interceptions and two fumbles.
Yeah. Because all I know is that, hey, hey, did y'all win a day? I don't know about if we, but I did.
Right. I cooked.
I cooked all of them. All of them.
The whole Dolphins secondary, I cooked them. The whole Cardinals secondary, I cooked them.
the whole Cardinals secondary I cooked them the whole Carolina secondary I cooked them yeah oh I'm oh yeah for sure because you know it's a thing you know hey you nothing because you know they doing the same thing and that's what I wanted to say earlier Ocho man you cool I mean a joint practice you on one knee next to Carolina you on one knee next to the guys. So it ain't like a game.
You on your sideline.

They're on their sideline.

Your practices, look, I understand it's a different team,

but the feel of it is different.

You talking, you carrying on and so forth and so on,

but it's not the same.

Now, you start talking, it turned real quick. Absolutely.
Oh, don't knock down no pass. Don't worry about it.
Now 84 got to get up off of me. Yeah.
You got to come see me. Woo-woo-woo.
Okay. Now, hey, let's restore some order.
Hey that jumping around yeah all this did that even happen right hey yo dancy i don't know where they carry got it strapped man please hey hey everything i catch i'll spike it on you. Man.
Hey, them joint practices are so fun, though, man. Drew and Sue in M&M's minis.
And baking the surprise birthday cake for Lou. And Sue forgetting that her oven doesn't really work.
And Drew remembering that they don't have flour. And Lou getting home early from work, which he never does and Drew and Sue using the rest of the tubes of M&M's minis as party poppers instead.
I think this is one of those moments where people say it's the thought that counts. M&M's, it's more fun together.
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