Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Patrick Mahomes unhappy with his Madden rating

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I'm happy.

Speaker 17 I mean, golly, man, I'm not sure who your team is. I know what my team is going to do.
You saw a small sample size of what we're going to do offensively. Defense,

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Speaker 17 hey they call me they call me edgar allen ocho

Speaker 8 edgar allen man so poke hey i'm telling you what they call me in high school they call me edgar allen ocho

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Speaker 8 I take your word for it, Ocho. Ocho, add Mahomes to the list of guys that weren't happy with their Madding rating.

Speaker 8 Patrick Mahomes is confident that he can raise his players' rating to 99 overall once again.

Speaker 8 I like playing Madden, so I would like to be rated higher, but if I got to play and showcase that stuff on the field, I believe if I go out there and play the football I want to play, we can get to 99 pretty quickly.

Speaker 8 He's rated 95 overall after being 99 in the prior four editions of the game at release.

Speaker 17 Listen,

Speaker 17 it's okay. It's okay.
Mahom showed that he's human. We're not talking about the Super Bowl game.
Listen, Chiefs fans, I know we have some Chiefs fans in the chat.

Speaker 17 Let's talk about how the quarterback looked and the quarterback play looked during the regular season.

Speaker 17 Come on now.

Speaker 17 It wasn't Mahomes level consistently week in and week out on what

Speaker 17 we were seeing from him.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Okay? Like, like it's, it's okay. And I like that Mahomes said what he said because he has every right to be where he is at a 95 based on what we saw, what he displayed.

Speaker 17 I I know we know he made a Super Bowl, we know he's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, but based on what he did in a full season, week to week, it's not the Mahomes where he used to sing, even though they made the Super Bowl.

Speaker 17 That's awesome. I love him, and he's going to probably be a 99 because he has that chip on his shoulder and has nothing to do with Madden.
Just in general, he lost Super Bowl to the Eagles

Speaker 17 dismantled offensively by their defense.

Speaker 8 And I'm sure he didn't make the Pro Bowl, huh? He didn't make the Pro Bowl. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 Hey,

Speaker 8 Let that sink in for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A guy that's been to what, three consecutive Super Bowls. He's been a two-time Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 He was a back-to-back Super Bowl MVP, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl the next year. He didn't play well.
It's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 8 You don't get to be a 99 because you've played well in the past, and you get to keep that rating forever. Yeah.
No,

Speaker 8 it's a year-to-year thing, and it's a game-to-game. He didn't play well enough to rate 99, and that's okay.

Speaker 8 And like he said, if I go out there and play like i know i like i want to play i'm gonna be a 99 it won't take long

Speaker 17 i'll tell you one thing he'll be a 99 by goddamn week six

Speaker 8 if he plays like we think mahomes can play yeah yeah

Speaker 8 he's gonna be all right Dave Canalis said Bryce Young wasn't happy about being benched just two games into last season, but took it upon himself to respond the right way.

Speaker 8 He continued to lead throughout that process. He earned a lot of respect from his teammates, from me, regardless of the situation.

Speaker 8 He didn't agree with me on the decision not to play him, but he worked and kept leading. He was showing me, this is my team.
And he was showing his teammates, you're my guys.

Speaker 8 He came back in and we started to grow together. And then building into that into the offseason and the leadership continued.
That was the most impressive part to me. It's a real challenge.

Speaker 8 We've seen different situations, different scenarios on the team where a top pick is struggling and he can get isolated from his teammates.

Speaker 17 He just stepped up yeah most definitely i think that benching was probably the best thing for him yeah i think that benching was the best thing for him being benched can be a wake-up call two things can happen either you can fold under the pressure or you can rise to the top only two things gonna happen and he did just that he roll to the top he came back from that bench and played extremely well he did extremely well i'm like well god damn what carolina panthers team is this

Speaker 17 and i all now they have something to build off of coming off of last season.

Speaker 17 Going to this season, I think they have one of the most underrated receiving cores in the NFL.

Speaker 17 And I'm willing to bet whatever on them this year.

Speaker 17 Whatever. They're going to be all right.
Jimmy Horn, Thielen, Brother Leggett. Yeah.

Speaker 17 Man, come on now.

Speaker 8 They should be a lot better.

Speaker 8 Plus, Bryce has a year of this system under his belt.

Speaker 8 He's going into his third year. I think he, like he's like Canalis said, he learned a lot.
He grew a lot. And so now it's just to pick up where you left off last year and continue.

Speaker 8 Now, that doesn't mean, I mean, look, they're going to be, look, you ain't got to figure it out. Right.

Speaker 8 But you're ahead of where you were last year this time.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And the guys believe in him. And that's what you need.
You need guys to believe in you. Because

Speaker 8 if the guys in the locker room, they don't believe they can win with you, it's going to be hard to, it's hard to get them back.

Speaker 8 yeah it is hard to get them back but him coming back and you know he was he probably was still around the huddle hey so what what you know asking what you saw on that well if you did you know i i probably did this or you know you if you did that you know probably would have come you know he's he's around and he's talking showing the guys i ain't i ain't over here sulking because i'm gonna get back i'm gonna get that job back

Speaker 8 And all the things that I'm talking about you on the sidelines and I'm talking to you in the meeting room, they're going to come to fruition.

Speaker 8 Because now I got an opportunity to slow the game down and get the chance to see it while not being in there. Right.

Speaker 8 So now I get an opportunity to see, okay, oh man, now I see.

Speaker 8 Oh, that's why I made the mistake. I should have went, boom, boom, boom.
Yes, tough. Anytime you get benched, nobody wants to lose their job.

Speaker 8 Hey,

Speaker 8 athletes have some of the biggest egos, and the better the player, the bigger the ego. Yeah.
That man is a Heisman trophy winner. That man was the number one overall pick in the draft.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 You know what? And it's so funny. The way Bryce Young carries himself, I don't see him with the type.
He might have ego, but he hides it in masks so well.

Speaker 17 When I think of Bryce Young, His demeanor, the way he carries himself, the way he talks, he reminded me. Remember the five heartbeats? Hey, Chad, y'all remember the five heartbeats?

Speaker 8 Yeah, the young brother.

Speaker 17 No, he reminded me of choir boy.

Speaker 8 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 Yeah, young brother.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why.
And just, it just, Bryce Young reminds me of choir boy.

Speaker 17 Matter of fact, I'm going to call him choir boy the rest of the season because that's what he reminds me of. Says all the right things, does all the right things.

Speaker 17 He seems like the pastor's son, you know, and just happened to be in. one of the best positions for the Carolina Panthers.
He's quarterback number one. And as Bryce Young goes, so does everyone else.

Speaker 17 Bryce Young is only as good as his supporting cast, which is why I'm so high on the receiving core that he has worked with. That offense is going to go as far as they take him.

Speaker 17 So he's going to need that receiving core to step up this year and everybody be consistent at what they do.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe. Quarterbacks have always had the biggest ego.
They just do the best job of hiding it.

Speaker 8 They do. That's a good one.
Do you understand

Speaker 8 what it takes to play that position and to play it at an elite level?

Speaker 8 What you have to know?

Speaker 8 How much you have to study and prepare?

Speaker 8 There's a reason why they behave in the manner they behave. Now, some, they do a better, great job of hiding it.
Right.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 as we've seen Tom Brady get further and further away from the game,

Speaker 8 you see,

Speaker 8 you hear

Speaker 8 what he thought, how how he thought.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we say, oh, that's going to be a good team, but I'm knowing we're going to beat the brakes off them.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 I say this right thing. Every quarterback is politically correct, and I hate that.

Speaker 17 You hear Tom talk, you hear Peyton Manning talk. They'll never, ever, truly say how they really

Speaker 17 at all, at all.

Speaker 17 At all. I don't think, has there ever been a quarterback? There's never been a quarterback that went against the grain on how they're supposed to be.

Speaker 17 right no

Speaker 8 because most of them played that position all their life a lot of them played you know their father was in their era their father was their coach and so you know hey we don't give people bulletin board material we always praise the opposing team what a great team how well coached they are how disciplined they are knowing all the while we're about to f them up right right

Speaker 8 yeah that's how you do it that that's how that's how a lot of quarterbacks do it right that's how most of the quarterbacks i mean you don't i mean john ain't give nobody no bulletin board Marino,

Speaker 8 Kelly, Montana, all the great, they didn't give you nothing. First of all, Ocho, why am I going to give you, bro?

Speaker 8 Don't I know that you're trying to kill me? Do I need to give you,

Speaker 8 I don't need to add any more incentive.

Speaker 8 The bear's hungry. I don't need to douse myself with sardines, Ocho.
I'm already out there in this territory. Yeah.
And

Speaker 8 he ain't had nothing to eat in a while.

Speaker 8 So they're like, me and you ojo we like

Speaker 8 we only got a couple of guys that's trying to get us yeah

Speaker 8 he got 11 guys trying to get him

Speaker 8 because he take off running everybody tried to lay a hat on him uh uh uh the d-line trying to get him they blitz the linebackers they tried to get him

Speaker 8 and everybody tried to get that shot Yeah you saw Richardson got hit with.

Speaker 8 They tried to put that helmet right there in that breastplate, just like that.

Speaker 17 Well, hold on now.

Speaker 17 now you talk, you talk a little trash. Now, I talked a little trash.
Now, we might not have had to deal with 11 people, but we have to do that.

Speaker 8 Oh, they tried to give. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 17 Hey, we had to deal with seven.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but we had to have a head on swivel.

Speaker 17 Seven, yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, it's to me, it forces you, it forces you to play at a higher level.
It does pop your game. All your I's better be dotty, your T's better be crossed.

Speaker 17 Because if it's not,

Speaker 8 yeah, all right, true.

Speaker 17 You'll be looking, hey, you listen, you'll be looking out the side.

Speaker 8 One lie spoken.

Speaker 17 Oh, there was some fun days.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because you put it out there.

Speaker 8 And when you put it out there, you got to back it up. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, it's,

Speaker 8 I like that, Bryce. Look, the man played a top flight.
I mean, he played a top flight program at high school, played at a top flight. Think about who he followed at Alabama.

Speaker 8 He was in the room with Tua and Mac Jones.

Speaker 8 And, you know, he's like, hey, and all he did was win the Heisman.

Speaker 8 Waited his time.

Speaker 8 Went the Heisman. Took him to the National Championship game.
It'd have been interesting

Speaker 8 how the game would have turned out had Metchie not got hurt

Speaker 8 in the championship, and got

Speaker 8 the SEC championship, and then Jamison Williams got hurt in the national title game.

Speaker 17 Oh, that's right, it's ACL. Sure, did.

Speaker 8 So with all that being said,

Speaker 8 you know, obviously he felt some type of way about losing his job.

Speaker 8 And he lost his job to a guy. Y'all know he's not the answer.
Y'all know he's not going to be the future.

Speaker 17 Andy?

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I think he's still in the league.

Speaker 8 Where is he, Andy now? In Chicago?

Speaker 17 Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure.
I'm sure he's still in the league, though, because Andy Dalton, obviously, with the experience and his veteran presence, he would be great.

Speaker 17 He's going to play for a very, very long time.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 17 Very servicea quarterback that can get the job done at a quarterback position.

Speaker 17 Damn, where is he?

Speaker 8 He's still in Carolina.

Speaker 17 Oh, he is still there. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 8 See,

Speaker 8 he can be an informant. He can be a double agent.

Speaker 8 Because he's inconspicuous.

Speaker 8 Nothing sticks out about him.

Speaker 8 See, if you're too high,

Speaker 8 it's hard to go and notice, isn't it?

Speaker 8 When you've had an impressive resume, it's hard to go and notice, isn't it? Yeah,

Speaker 8 look at the backups that play long, long periods of time, right?

Speaker 8 Josh McCown,

Speaker 17 Case Keenum,

Speaker 8 Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 8 So,

Speaker 8 yeah,

Speaker 8 I'm happy for him.

Speaker 8 Look, Atlanta, I think Atlanta's going to be better. Yeah.
I think Tampa's going to be better.

Speaker 8 New Orleans, they lead the quarterback situation. If they get that figured out, you know, they're going to play tough.

Speaker 8 But I do think Atlanta and

Speaker 8 Tampa are the two teams in that division. I think they're the teams to beat.
I think they're the teams to watch out for.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 17 Tampa added the receiver by the name of, excuse me, if I chat,

Speaker 17 Ibuka. Is that

Speaker 8 yeah, Ibuka.

Speaker 17 Man,

Speaker 8 I done seen the one-on-ones, the seven-on-fours, the 11-on- He cooking in the slot,

Speaker 17 man.

Speaker 17 But they already had goddamn Mike Evans.

Speaker 17 You already got Goddamn,

Speaker 17 Chris Godwin. And then you add young

Speaker 17 man, Baker Mayfield got to be like a little kid, a kid in the candy store, man, with a remote control.

Speaker 17 All he got to do is just put the ball in the area, just put the ball in the vicinity.

Speaker 17 You got Bucky back there.

Speaker 17 They're going to be nice.

Speaker 17 They're going to be nice.

Speaker 8 They are. They got a good team.

Speaker 8 Defense, tough.

Speaker 17 Nice. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, they got Vita Vea. They got Devonta.
They got uh

Speaker 8 uh levante david uh winfield jr is back healthy i like dean i think

Speaker 8 if he can stay healthy yeah he get these you know uh get these ticky tack injuries hamstring and he gets dinged um but when he's healthy yeah he's one of the better cover people for for real i mean long rangy guy he looks like he's about 6'4 yeah you know who he reminded me of who that remember anthony henry

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Speaker 8 We'll see. We'll see early on.
But

Speaker 8 they got to start off fast, Ocho. You know, when you're a young team, you start off slow.
It's hard to switch that thing around.

Speaker 8 You need to have something good to feel good coming in the locker room the first couple of weeks of the season. Like, yeah.

Speaker 8 We damn.

Speaker 8 Dak Prescott, when asked about Micah Parsons' trade request, and if he's thought about the possibility of Micah not being his teammate, no, not necessarily.

Speaker 8 I think if we wouldn't have been in his shoes and watched the other guys be in his shoes and get rewarded, maybe. But I've got faith in the Joneses and the team, as I do in Micah and his team.

Speaker 8 Levin is a cowboy.

Speaker 8 Dak knows twice he's been in that situation. Yeah.

Speaker 8 He's been in that situation. I mean, so many guys have been in that situation, but none of those guys have ever requested a trade, though.
Right.

Speaker 17 Yeah. But listen, obviously, Dak in his position, you don't have to request a trade because you know your money coming no matter what.
Because there is no answer at the position that you're playing.

Speaker 17 Right. Actually, there's no answer for Mikey either, but obviously they treat the quarterback a little bit different than someone else.
They're going to make you wait for your money.

Speaker 17 I still don't understand the method behind the madness and what they're doing. Now, we've covered this two, three nights in a row.

Speaker 17 I don't don't know what Jerry is doing. I think

Speaker 17 it was a way to always keep the Cowboys' name in the headlines. And Jerry understood that.

Speaker 17 I think he understood that.

Speaker 17 I don't know. It just makes no sense.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I like what Dak had to say. Dak, like, man, we look at her.
We had so many guys in that position.

Speaker 8 I've been in that position.

Speaker 8 CD was just in that position last year.

Speaker 8 And I don't know why we thought, I don't think, you know what, Ocho, now that I look back on it, I don't know why we thought it'd be any different. Yeah, because Dak and CD went through it.

Speaker 8 Dak went through it twice. CD going through it.

Speaker 17 What about Dez? Did Dez have to go through that too?

Speaker 8 No, they got Dez done. Because remember, Jerry said him and Jay-Z did that deal on a napkin.

Speaker 8 Jerry blowing up the spot.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And I understand what Dak's saying, but Micah said, I don't make it any easier.

Speaker 8 I want my money.

Speaker 8 Matter of fact, Michael, he won that practice today.

Speaker 17 You saw that?

Speaker 8 He wasn't? Yeah,

Speaker 8 he didn't even eat it. He said his back locked up on.

Speaker 17 He having back spasms.

Speaker 17 Back spasms. Shoot, my back would be hurting too.

Speaker 8 Hey,

Speaker 8 you know, they say when you back spasm, you know, you're not supposed to lift anything heavy. Wait till you get that big old signing bonus.
Them spasms are going to go away.

Speaker 8 Them spasms are going to go away. Oh, y'all.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 17 Hey, what I tell you, boy, hey, football, man, the business side is a shrewd business, boy. Yeah,

Speaker 17 it's a shrewd business, man. When it's time to get paid, you think they love you until it's time to show me the money.
If you don't like you say you do,

Speaker 17 they play with everybody. And the funny thing about it is, is

Speaker 17 everybody's equal. And the owners let you know that everybody's equal because nobody gets treated any different regardless of the team.
Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin, Micah Parsons, all 32 teams,

Speaker 17 everybody gets done the exact same way. Yeah.
Some not as loud as others, but it's still the exact same way outside of the quarterbacks. The quarterbacks get taken care of ahead of time and early.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You, you, you're not, you know, you're not wrong. You're not wrong.
That's, that's kind of how it happens. You see now the Ravens did make Lamar sweat a little bit.

Speaker 8 I think he had to play one year on the franchise tag. Hey, they

Speaker 8 hold on. They played with it.

Speaker 17 Not even sweat. Hold on.
Hold on. How about

Speaker 17 what about when the opportunity presented itself and all the analysts and punners were talking about Lamar Jackson not being in Baltimore and them having the nerve to say

Speaker 17 there were no teams that wanted him?

Speaker 8 Well, that's foolishness on their part. Because all the teams that needed quarterbacks, Ocho, name a team that needed a quarterback.

Speaker 8 They got a quarterback that's on their roster right now that's better than Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 17 Man.

Speaker 8 Now we know

Speaker 8 Cincinnati and Kansas City and

Speaker 8 Buffalo. We know they're straight.
They could. We ain't talking about that.
But there are some teams that we know.

Speaker 17 Hey, I could have was it the Giants, but the Giants owner came out Atlanta.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah, that was Atlanta.

Speaker 17 Was that Arthur Blank that had the nerve to say that?

Speaker 8 Can you imagine him on that turf

Speaker 8 in that dome with those fans?

Speaker 8 They think they got Vic all over again.

Speaker 8 Man, listen. Seven and eight.

Speaker 17 Unbelievable.

Speaker 17 Unbelievable. Man, but

Speaker 17 can you imagine Lamar Jackson in Atlanta? No disrespect to Pennick Jr.

Speaker 17 No disrespect to Kirk Cousins. You talk about turning that city, turning that city in the background.

Speaker 8 And look at what you played, Kirk Cousins. You could have had Lamar Jackson for at least another six, 10 years.

Speaker 17 Oh, we don't want him. We don't need him.
What?

Speaker 17 Child, please.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it is tough. It's tough because you do everything you possibly can.
And Micah laid it out so eloquently. He laid it out there on the line.

Speaker 8 He was probably nursing something, lower extremities last year that caused him to miss some time, caused some of his production to dip.

Speaker 8 He did all that, and the hopes that you know they're going to do right by me. Right.

Speaker 17 But and listen, all players have the hopes that they're going to do right by you when you do what you're supposed to do on the field.

Speaker 8 But those hopes,

Speaker 17 hope

Speaker 17 they show you every time.

Speaker 8 Nah, we're going to make you wait.

Speaker 17 We're going to make you wait. Yep.

Speaker 17 And it lets you know how they really feel about you.

Speaker 17 It's more of a

Speaker 17 reality check.

Speaker 17 Well, damn.

Speaker 8 That's how they really feel?

Speaker 17 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And they'll show you every time.
Smile in your face, shake your hand.

Speaker 17 Good job. Good job out there.
Doing great.

Speaker 8 You're doing great.

Speaker 17 Yeah. Now

Speaker 17 let your ears or your eyes be inside that negotiating meeting room. Boy, you'll share the tear to see how they truly feel.

Speaker 8 They call it negotiating, Ocho.

Speaker 8 They call it negotiating.

Speaker 17 Yep.

Speaker 8 They call it negotiating.

Speaker 17 I don't want no part of that. I just want to play ball.

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, I just, you know.

Speaker 8 I thought my thing was that once I got to a certain level, you know, we should be beyond negotiating.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 you would think that

Speaker 8 maybe I was asking a bit too much, Ocho.

Speaker 8 Maybe I was asking a bit too much.

Speaker 8 You think Michael Deals get done before the season?

Speaker 17 Yeah,

Speaker 17 I don't think Jerry will play like that.

Speaker 17 There's no need to let this bleed into the season because if you let it bleed into a season, that becomes a whole nother distraction that the team has to deal with.

Speaker 17 Instead of worrying about going to the season and having that behind you,

Speaker 17 yeah, yeah. And Jerry does it every time.
He always gets a player sign right before the season gets ready to start. He drags it out.

Speaker 17 He drags it out.

Speaker 8 Jerry ain't on no budget. Jared ain't worried for no checks to clear.
He got the money. Just go ahead and pay the man.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah, he's going to pay him. He's going to do it on his terms, on when he wants to.

Speaker 17 And he showed just that with everybody.

Speaker 17 Hell, Micah might say, you know what? You know what? I ain't even finna sign. I'm going to play this out.

Speaker 17 I'm gonna play this out. And do me a favor.

Speaker 8 Nobody got two franchise tags.

Speaker 17 And I was just gonna say, don't franchise tag me, please. Since you already got

Speaker 8 two, you can't franchise tag is that because that got in his contract, you can't franchise him.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 he's not gonna play it out if they come to the table, but it's gonna take it's gonna take more than what TJ Watt got to get this deal done.

Speaker 8 and i'll leave a few nickels i'm not look

Speaker 8 if if if i can get a deal done for 42 5 43 even though i want 45

Speaker 8 i'll do the deal right

Speaker 8 not do the deal the the the risk is too great for me not to at that point

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 I think I'm going to agree with you.

Speaker 8 I I think I'm going to say

Speaker 8 they get this deal done. I think

Speaker 8 Labor Day

Speaker 8 leading to the first game. Oh, yeah, because

Speaker 8 they up first. They got the Thursday night game against the Eagles.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 you don't want

Speaker 17 Sticks

Speaker 17 not on the field for that game. No.

Speaker 17 Matter of fact,

Speaker 17 you want to pay him

Speaker 17 late

Speaker 17 so he come up and show out in that game. You're going to be mad.
You're going to be pissed. Let me show you why I deserve the money that you strung me along for.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, someone listed the top five greatest football movies ever.

Speaker 8 Remember the Titans was one. That's a good one.
Blindside.

Speaker 8 Two. The longest yard.
Are they talking about the remake or the original? Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 8 If you want to win, put Booby Miles in.

Speaker 8 Number five, Waterboy, Bobby Boucher.

Speaker 17 Hold on.

Speaker 17 I'm not sure who made this list. But one, they're missing Rudy.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 17 Two, they're missing the movie.

Speaker 8 Coach Carter?

Speaker 17 Nah, not Coach Carter.

Speaker 8 Football boys.

Speaker 17 Okay. They're missing Rudy.

Speaker 17 What's the movie with Jamie Foxx and LL Cool J where Al Pacino gave that

Speaker 8 longest yard that's what i'm saying but there was an original before that north dallas 40.

Speaker 8 any given oh any given sunday

Speaker 17 sunday that's what i'm talking about where al pacino gave that speech uh

Speaker 8 six inches between oh my goodness man you know al pacino you know he followed mike shanahan around

Speaker 17 oh to be able to do the role for the movie that's that's nice that's nice i love that about actors i love that

Speaker 17 yeah, to get into character. Yes, studying those.
Yeah, that's dope. I'm trying to think.
What else? Um, football movies, Rudy.

Speaker 17 What's the movie again? With Jamie Foxx and LL Cool Jay, any given Sunday. That has that, those two have to be on that.

Speaker 8 I like Brian's song

Speaker 8 by Brian Piccolo and Gail Sayers. It was Billy D.
Williams and uh,

Speaker 8 who was the other guy?

Speaker 8 Oh, my goodness, What was this guy's name?

Speaker 8 The Brian song has to be there. Well, hold on.

Speaker 17 If they're going back that far, they might as well have Wildcats in there, too. Please tell me you remember Wildcats with Goldie Han.
Yeah. Chat, chat, y'all might be.

Speaker 8 But you do realize, like, remember the Titans based on a true story. Yes.

Speaker 8 That was Burns. That was Burns' head coach, Herman Boone.

Speaker 17 Real?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 17 Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
Hey, chat, if y'all have never saw the movie Wildcats and you want to laugh, you want to cry?

Speaker 8 You talk about with Goldie Han?

Speaker 17 Yeah. You remember Wildcats?

Speaker 8 I do remember it. Hold on.

Speaker 17 Matter of fact, they ain't even got the program up there with Lattimore.

Speaker 8 The replacement?

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 there have been some really good, like I said, Brian's song.

Speaker 8 Football movie, football movie.

Speaker 8 The program, North Dallas 40.

Speaker 17 I don't know, but Wildcats, man,

Speaker 17 that's that's a classic. The program and Wildcats are classic football movies.

Speaker 17 I never heard of North Dallas. I never heard of that.

Speaker 8 Actually, based on a true story,

Speaker 8 not before your time, though.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But Waterboy, man, I laugh so hard, man. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Man, Bobby Boucher.

Speaker 17 Hey, he was hilarious, boy. That was Adam Sandler, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 17 He was hilarious, boy.

Speaker 8 Henry Winkler.

Speaker 8 Friday Night Lights. You want to win? Put Boobie Miles in.

Speaker 17 Boobie Miles tore his ACL in that movie, didn't he?

Speaker 8 I think

Speaker 8 what is that? Odessa Perriman?

Speaker 8 I think that's what high school he went to.

Speaker 8 Longest yard, blind side. Okay.

Speaker 8 Remember the Titans.

Speaker 8 That came out in 2000, and we were playing, what you call them, we were playing

Speaker 8 the Tennessee Titans. Really? And they kept that on the video.
Don't let them get another yard.

Speaker 17 Trying to think, man, that's it. I can't believe they didn't put Rudy up there.
Boy, Rudy is a iconic movie.

Speaker 17 Man.

Speaker 8 It ain't better than the other.

Speaker 17 What?

Speaker 17 Listen, Waterboy is a comedy. You could take Waterboy off when we talk about football movies.

Speaker 8 No, you can't take that off.

Speaker 8 Not when Bobby Boucher was bouchering people.

Speaker 8 You can't take that off. He's bouchering people.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 17 Oh, man.

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Speaker 18 Your pronunciation is

Speaker 18 strongly American, it's more Scuderia Ferrari.

Speaker 8 I'm still working on rolling my R's, but what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tefosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age.

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Speaker 8 You've got Ferrari which has a long history, design history, and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions.

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Speaker 8 Archie Mannon says Arch isn't going to leave Texas for the 2026 draft.

Speaker 8 According to Texas Monthly, as the season approaches, many of the same people who have already awarded Arch the Heisman and national championship are predicting he'll also be the number one overall draft pick in the 2026 draft.

Speaker 8 His grandfather says he hasn't discussed it with Arch, but he knows his grandson. Arch isn't going to do that.
He'll be at Texas. The Mannings aren't buying the hype, aren't exactly none of the hype.

Speaker 8 It feels to them like a setup. People are saying the Heisman candidate, said Archie, the scoring building, the scoring building in his voice.

Speaker 8 You know, you're not a Heisman candidate where you haven't even played but three games. It's crazy.

Speaker 8 He said, well, I know y'all putting all this pressure. So if it doesn't happen, y'all are going to say, see?

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 17 I think that Arch Manning is going to be all right.

Speaker 17 he's gonna be all right. And if he has the season that we think he's gonna have, based on what everyone is saying,

Speaker 17 he out of there in 20 2026, and he's gonna be the number one pick in the draft. And I could tell you, I could tell you where you're going right now

Speaker 17 because there's one team in NFL.

Speaker 8 He ain't going to Cleveland, huh? He ain't going to Cleveland. He ain't going.

Speaker 17 I ain't say you're going to Cleveland.

Speaker 8 I ain't say, I say he ain't going to the draft.

Speaker 17 Oh, no, he's going to he's if he has the season he's going to have, there's one team in NFL right now that has no answer at the quarter acquisition, and they're going to be horrible all season long.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 you should know, NFC South.

Speaker 17 New Orleans don't have no answer at the quarterback position, and it's going to be hell over them for them boys.

Speaker 17 Number one pick, it all makes sense. Archie Manning to the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 8 I'm going to take Papa's voice.

Speaker 8 I'm going to take Papa. He said he ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 17 Of course they're going to say that because he hadn't played football yet. He hasn't played a full season yet.
He hasn't won the Heisman yet.

Speaker 8 He had two sons and Peyton could have been what Peyton was and he stayed. You know, they look at it like you're only going to get to go to college once, son.
Yeah.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 what you told me about going to the NFL when you got the opportunity?

Speaker 8 But see, when you come up and you got money, oh cho it's different than for us now we we we ain't living we ain't living like that right right right it's different

Speaker 8 oh cho

Speaker 8 if you if you survive an hour in a room with one of these you get 10 million dollars which one you choosing give me give me give me what's up there tell me what i got up there

Speaker 8 You got a crocodile, a tiger, a lion, a bear?

Speaker 8 Crocodile.

Speaker 8 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 17 Crocodile. You know what?

Speaker 17 You know what? Because obviously, living in Miami, and I'm not trying to be funny. I know I make jokes a lot, but I'm not trying to be funny.

Speaker 17 I want to make and be in the room with the animal where if I don't move, they're not going to move.

Speaker 17 Listen, the bear is going to attack you just because.

Speaker 17 The lion and the tiger, they're going to attack you just because.

Speaker 17 The alligator, unless you

Speaker 17 make any sudden movements, they ain't moving.

Speaker 17 They're lazy,

Speaker 17 they ain't just gonna attack just because,

Speaker 8 yeah,

Speaker 8 they ambush, they don't, they don't chase prey, they ambush predator.

Speaker 8 Yes, now, if you got, if the room got water in it, you go down there to the hole, he might get you, yeah, but for an hour, I don't want no water.

Speaker 17 I can sit right, I can sit right there, and we can have a staring contest.

Speaker 8 Yep, you have a staring contest for an hour, and walk out of there with yeah, you got no chance with those other,

Speaker 8 you got no chance with those other three, Yeah, that was easy. It varied.

Speaker 8 Diana Taurasi's self-titled three-episode docu series premieres tomorrow on Prime Video.

Speaker 8 In a preview snippet, she recounted having to use WNBA offseason to secure bigger paydays by playing in other leagues, other leagues overseas.

Speaker 8 I'm the best player in the world, and I have to go to a communist country to get paid like a capitalist.

Speaker 8 We weren't making much money, so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year. Now we have to come back home and get paid nothing.

Speaker 8 I play in a harder league in worse conditions against the best competition in the world.

Speaker 8 The effing janitor at the arena made more than me.

Speaker 17 Whoa.

Speaker 17 She said that?

Speaker 8 That would you say?

Speaker 17 Ouch.

Speaker 8 Now, DT gonna speak now. Hey, I don't know if you really know her like that, but oh, she's gonna speak on it.
She's gonna speak her mind now. Right.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 If she feels a certain type of way about something, you'll know it.

Speaker 17 Yeah, you know, things are changing in that area from a revenue perspective for the women.

Speaker 8 You know, more. They still had to go in the unrivaled league and they make more in three weeks or a month than they made in a whole year.

Speaker 17 Yeah,

Speaker 17 that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate.
And I don't know the specifics, you know, when it comes to the WNBA, but I do know that

Speaker 17 things are getting better, obviously.

Speaker 8 Women get better. Well, we'll see in this collective bargaining agreement.

Speaker 8 If they get a bigger split of the revenue since

Speaker 8 the revenue has increased, does the percentage of the revenue increase? Right.

Speaker 8 So that's what's going to be interesting. So we won't know if it's gotten better until we see what these new deals start to look like.

Speaker 8 If they're going to be someone making 350, 400, half a million, then I can say, you know what, Ocho, yeah, they're getting better. Yeah.

Speaker 17 I'm hoping so. They deserve it.
They deserve it. You know, there have been a lot of women that have paved the way and built the foundation for the girls that are playing today.

Speaker 17 You know, and it's good to see the game continues to grow. More eyes, more visibility.

Speaker 17 And I'm hoping it does pay off for them.

Speaker 8 I agree with you.

Speaker 8 Luca Donchic was spotted driving a $2 million all-electric hypercar. Look at this video, Ocho.
A Remnik Nevera is an all-electric starting price 2.2 million.

Speaker 8 Top speed, 258 miles per hour, can go 0 to 60 in 1.74 seconds, according to the manufacturer.

Speaker 17 Boy,

Speaker 17 that's expensive there, boy.

Speaker 17 That's expensive.

Speaker 8 At that kind of speed, you'd be able to go like five minutes and go need another charge. Yep.

Speaker 17 Hey, listen, the funny thing about it is you live in LA. I'm not sure you're gonna be able to speed no matter what time it is.

Speaker 17 The traffic, LA?

Speaker 8 Nah, you needed that during the pandemic because you can get on the 405 with nobody on the pandemic.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 17 But I'm just thinking about the LA traffic. You ain't gonna never be able to speed.
Where you going?

Speaker 17 Where you going? 405, the 10, the 110, the five,

Speaker 17 everything crowded.

Speaker 8 258.

Speaker 8 And they need to tell me about that because I ain't going to be in there either in the passenger seat or the driver's seat going 258.

Speaker 17 But

Speaker 17 I mean, there's no way, there's nowhere in the states where you're going to open up like that. What, Pacific Coast Highway, maybe? If anything?

Speaker 8 Boy, I ain't taking it. Boy, all the winding turns.

Speaker 17 I mean, there's no, where's the street?

Speaker 8 There's no street. You should be in the Pacific.
Like you be saying, specific, you're going to be in the Pacific.

Speaker 8 Hell no.

Speaker 17 That's the only thing I can think of. I mean,

Speaker 17 that's long enough where you can actually open up and have some fun.

Speaker 8 I don't want to, I mean, unless you go to the salt flats or somewhere,

Speaker 8 Utah,

Speaker 8 I mean, ain't nothing. I mean, maybe the Audubon, but I'm just trying to figure out where you're going to go that you can just open it up like that.
Right.

Speaker 8 But even if you could, I'm just saying I'm not going to be in there. Somebody else can tell me, yeah, man, it got to 258, but I don't want no part of that.

Speaker 8 i mean you know how quick you come up on stuff at that at speed like that

Speaker 8 i mean

Speaker 17 hey that's that's uh-uh listen especially if you're not a professional driver a professional driver like if you drive nascar you drive you drive f nd formula one something like that yeah you need to be a pro

Speaker 17 your your eyes and your mind your reaction time is used to driving at speeds like that so you can react faster just in case something goes wrong but You got to be a dragster with that kind of speed.

Speaker 8 Um, you don't only dragsters go that top few funny cars, yeah. Oh, and that's only a quarter mile, though, Ocho.
I don't want no part of that. They're hitting 300 and a quarter of a mile.

Speaker 8 I don't want no part of that. But you got to understand now, this is different now because it's electricity, it doesn't require that spark, so that's why it goes to zero to 60 in 1.7 per second.

Speaker 8 That thing is instantly. The moment you step on electric, Ocho, it's out.
Yeah, yeah, it's out. Yeah,

Speaker 17 that's crazy.

Speaker 8 But I don't want no part of it

Speaker 8 Over a decade James Howell has finally given up his search for the hard drive ocho he accidentally threw away in 2013 It held 8,000 bitcoins with a net worth of 950 million

Speaker 8 By 2030, it could be valued at 8 billion Howell is abandoning his long-running effort to excavate the

Speaker 8 from a trash landfill his quest included legal battles drone surveys and 25 million british pounds offer 33.3 million to buy the landfill outright

Speaker 8 hey how do you accidentally throw throw that away i'm just curious hey bro it's a hard drive ocho you don't think people are throwing away hard drives

Speaker 17 Something of that, something of that importance?

Speaker 8 See, no but you see what it's in today's time it wasn't worth that then

Speaker 8 oh okay i see what you i see what you mean yeah of course if it worth 950 hell no

Speaker 8 it was probably eight it was probably worth

Speaker 8 what 8 000 if that

Speaker 8 if that

Speaker 17 Some things you got to hold on to. You just don't know.

Speaker 8 But here's the thing, Lemo Ocho. Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 8 And a lady said this to me. She said,

Speaker 8 your best decision that you've ever made, did you know it was the best decision that you ever made at the time that you made it?

Speaker 17 No.

Speaker 8 I get it. Your worst decision that you ever made, did you know it was the worst decision that you ever made at the time that you made it?

Speaker 17 Yes, because the consequences were severe.

Speaker 8 No, at the time you made that decision, you knew that was the worst decision you were making.

Speaker 8 No, I see, you didn't. You're doing the causality of it because of what transpired.
I'm asking at the time, at that moment, you made a decision. Did you know that was the worst decision of your life?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Because if you're like, hold on, this decision, man, this is about to be the worst decision of my life.

Speaker 17 Because if you knew that, you wouldn't make it.

Speaker 8 Think about how many times you made a decision and it turned out to be one of the best decisions, but you didn't know that at the time.

Speaker 8 And some of the decisions that you thought was so ingenious, like, what the hell was I thinking? Right.

Speaker 8 So at that time, 2013, Ocho, it was probably, Bitcoin probably was like $100.

Speaker 8 You probably could buy a coin for $100.

Speaker 8 Now.

Speaker 8 I told you somebody tried to sell me some.

Speaker 8 I'm like, bro, I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing about it.
Right.

Speaker 8 This was like 2015.

Speaker 17 You understand digital currency now?

Speaker 8 I don't me saying, and did you talk about a hard drive? Yeah,

Speaker 17 I don't know, I don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 17 You know, what's funny is the fact that he stopped looking for now. Watch he stumble up on it,

Speaker 8 he ain't finna stumble up on that. If he's looking in the landfill,

Speaker 8 he ain't stumbling up on that.

Speaker 8 That's what he's looking for.

Speaker 17 Good luck.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he ain't stumbling up. Good luck.

Speaker 8 He ain't stumbling up on that. It's one thing to lose your keys.
And you know, you look at all in the refrigerator. You look at all in the oven.

Speaker 8 No, damn well, you ain't put no keys in the refrigerator, no oven.

Speaker 8 I mean, when you lose something, you look in the most ridiculous places where you know you ain't put it.

Speaker 8 But the mind just say, well, they just look.

Speaker 8 And you try, well, let me let me retrace. Well, I woke up at this time and I walked downstairs and I did this, I pulled myself up.
You try to retrace. I mean, you literally try to retrace your steps.

Speaker 17 Betsey, especially when you lose your keys. You mispace your keys.

Speaker 8 Best thing is to stop looking for it and then you'll find it.

Speaker 17 Find it, yep.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 not if you go and look at a landfill now. Because the likelihood of you.

Speaker 8 And he's talking about he done

Speaker 8 drone surveys and a $33 million. He wanted to buy the landfill outright.

Speaker 8 Damn. They said, you're going to get your ass out of here.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 for $950 million, yeah, I'll be looking for it too, Ocho.

Speaker 8 I ain't finna hold you.

Speaker 17 Exactly.

Speaker 8 I'll be looking. And I'll be hiring some more folks on their hands and knees.
Hey.

Speaker 8 Find it. I got 100 for you.

Speaker 8 You know, as a matter of fact, Ocho, with that kind of money, I split it. Whoever find it, I split it.

Speaker 17 The whole thing?

Speaker 8 I was splitting it with them. Yeah.
Would you rather have, would you

Speaker 8 have 100% or nothing

Speaker 8 or a half of something?

Speaker 17 But that's a little too much, though.

Speaker 8 Okay,

Speaker 8 it's going to stay missing. It's going to stay missing, then, damn it.

Speaker 17 You're going to spit $950 million?

Speaker 8 That's $475 million. Or it can stay missing and you got nothing.
You see, didn't JV tell you? Some people get so caught up in having 100% or nothing.

Speaker 17 Oh, okay. I got you.
I see. I see you going with it.
I see you going with it.

Speaker 17 I see you going with it. I like it.

Speaker 17 Shoot, tell him, tell him, hit me. I help him find it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And

Speaker 8 the thing is,

Speaker 8 we find it, okay?

Speaker 8 It could be worth $8 billion. It's worth $9.50.
And in five years, it might be worth $8 billion. That's $4 billion for you, Ocho.

Speaker 17 Hey, tell him.

Speaker 8 $4 billion for me, too, because I found it.

Speaker 17 Tell him, hey, listen, if he's looking for it in the landfill, I got some dudes out the city right now. I guarantee they can find it in less than 24 hours.

Speaker 17 I got some boys to find that thing for him quick.

Speaker 8 You think so?

Speaker 8 Hey, what?

Speaker 17 I know so. Absolutely.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, it was thrown away 12 years ago. Do you know how much stuff done been dumped in that landfill?

Speaker 17 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And how many hard drives

Speaker 17 good luck boy for 900 and man listen brand listen get put the right people out there i'm telling you

Speaker 17 tell you well i got i got a home i got a homie named little scooter boy little scooter can find jimmy hoffer if soon you put him on the case

Speaker 17 i'm telling you

Speaker 17 He got the wrong people trying to do the job. That's the problem.
You got the wrong people trying to do that kind of job.

Speaker 17 yeah

Speaker 17 all right bet look

Speaker 8 now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a

Speaker 8 marco prove it bungles gonna bungle

Speaker 17 hey hey hey hey hey hey homie Homie, it's a preseason. That's not necessary.
And the Bengals did what they were supposed to do offensively. That's what I was looking for.

Speaker 17 I was looking for us to go out there and look sharp offensively outside of one errand throw, which was the first one that T. Higgins bounced off his hands.
That's it.

Speaker 17 Now, defensively, they got to work on that. Okay.
That's not my area of expertise unless it comes to Pacific DB play.

Speaker 17 So

Speaker 8 do low, do logante. Oh, Joe, the Cincinnati defense is cooked, sir.
Everything that that great offense can do doesn't matter if the defense can't stop nothing. That was our second team offense.

Speaker 8 Child, please. Go birds.

Speaker 17 Don't worry about it. Go birds.
Go birds. I like the Eagles too.
I'm an Eagles fan. Well, hell, I'm a fan of every goddamn body.
But again, this is the preseason. Pump your brakes a little bit.

Speaker 8 Mr. Tomlinson said, do you think the Colts should trade for Shadur?

Speaker 17 The who?

Speaker 8 The Colts.

Speaker 17 Wait, let's see what he does tomorrow night first.

Speaker 8 Let's see what he does. If he plays good, they're not going to trade him.

Speaker 17 Exactly. Let's see what he does tomorrow night first.
And I already told you how it's going to look. I don't need to repeat myself either.
But again, that first drive, he's going right down the field.

Speaker 17 I'm telling you, watch.

Speaker 8 Yo, Cade, Ocho, Marky Callender, week four, Monday night football in Mile High. Nick's going to cook your defense.
Satan, Huffnager,

Speaker 8 Hufanga.

Speaker 17 Oh, so we did. Hufanga.

Speaker 8 Greenlaw, Bonito, gonna give them hell. Be ready.

Speaker 17 Wait, what date did he say?

Speaker 8 The Broncos played a Chiefs in Mile High, Monday Night Football.

Speaker 17 That's week one?

Speaker 8 Week four.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 17 it ain't looking good for y'all.

Speaker 8 Look great.

Speaker 8 Aaron Hoard says, is Deshaun Watson's career over after this year? He's going to get cut after this season. Most likely, is he worth the distraction as a backup?

Speaker 17 Well, if he's a backup, how is he distraction?

Speaker 8 Your guess as good as mine,

Speaker 17 yeah.

Speaker 8 Uh, Quentin May says, Media, but us in the shadow, but we will shine. Go, Bucks,

Speaker 8 Kipper Norwood Jr. Ocho, my question is: what are your top three favorite NFL celebrations that you did during your career

Speaker 17 top three uh

Speaker 17 probably

Speaker 17 when i scored um sometime in september i forgot who we were playing uncann i put on the sombrero and poncho

Speaker 17 the spanish heritage month obviously the nfl they fined me 30 grand i didn't care it was worth it The second one would probably be Tiger Woods. He just won a major.

Speaker 17 He had won some big tournament and I watched it on Saturday And I copied the putt with the pylon that cost me money too, because you can't use props on the field. Nope.

Speaker 17 And the third one, I didn't even get a chance to do it. It would have been a third one.

Speaker 17 But my third would probably be the marriage proposal to the cheerleader because she had no clue what's going on, but she played it off based on my mannerism of what I was doing.

Speaker 17 She just said yes and I hugged her. I was going to kiss her, but I didn't want to get in trouble.
But the one I wanted to do so bad was in 2005. We were playing the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 17 And I put, remember the

Speaker 17 easy button from the Staples commercial?

Speaker 17 Yeah, so I put the easy button, you know, you press it, it says that was easy. I put the easy button under the north and south end zone goalpost underneath, yeah.
And I was hoping to score,

Speaker 17 and I was grabbing, yeah, we can grab the easy button and run the Carson and have Carson press it. I think that would have been that would have been really, really, really dope and really creative.

Speaker 17 I didn't get a chance to do that one, but that would have been a dope one.

Speaker 8 Sean Allen said, Hey, Uncle Nocho, who was a great, great player that became a great, great coach in what sport?

Speaker 17 Great player.

Speaker 8 Since we got football, I guess he's thinking football.

Speaker 17 I don't know. That's a great question.
Because most of the time, players that were really, really great, they didn't make good coaches.

Speaker 8 Dicker, the only one I could think of, I mean, Dick is the Hall of Fame and he won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 Jim Harbaugh played in the NFL. He wasn't a great player.
He went to the Super Bowl. When you're talking about great, great.

Speaker 8 And then he said, made a great, great coach, Bill Russell.

Speaker 17 So think about Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson was a phenomenal, great player, but he didn't make a great coach.
And

Speaker 17 you told me about that. Now, I didn't know you would think someone that was great at the game of basketball would obviously be great at coaching it.

Speaker 8 Most of the time,

Speaker 8 the great coaches were the good players,

Speaker 8 average players, but they weren't great.

Speaker 17 Could you see Jordan? If he ever would have rewind back time, Jordan coaching, how would he be as a coach?

Speaker 17 No?

Speaker 17 LeBron.

Speaker 8 It's so easy to it. That's what

Speaker 8 you just said.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 8 Bird was a great player. Bird was coach of the year.

Speaker 8 Steve, look at Steve Kerr.

Speaker 8 Role player.

Speaker 17 Right.

Speaker 8 Four titles.

Speaker 17 Ah, but wait a minute. Does success of a coach really have to do with his personnel and what he has to work with?

Speaker 17 Ah.

Speaker 17 That makes the coaching job easy when you have those kind of players.

Speaker 8 Jordan didn't win with anybody else but Phil.

Speaker 8 Phil ain't win with nobody else other than Shaq. He wouldn't even coach anybody else other than Shaq Kobe and Jordan and Pitt.
So what are we talking about here?

Speaker 8 Because the coach can get things out of those players that maybe another coach could. Maybe he just knows how to push the right buttons.
Right.

Speaker 8 Phil knew how to push the right buttons with Jordan and then that Bulls team. He knew how to push the right buttons with Shaq and Kobe.

Speaker 8 Well, maybe somebody else is not able to do that.

Speaker 17 What about Coach Prime?

Speaker 17 Or it hasn't been long enough.

Speaker 8 Great, great player, be a great, great coach. He would need to be Nick Saban

Speaker 17 or dabo or kirby smart but then he would have to be at a schools of that magnitude to get those type of players because we got to think nick saban look at the type of he was a great he was he was he was a great he was a great player at atlanta atlanta ain't no but no powerhouse

Speaker 8 he just happened to win at the 49ers but he was time and and because those teams were higher profile you got an opportunity to see him but you better check his resume in atlanta he was that oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 8 It's hard. It's hard.
And most great, great players don't want to be coaches. They don't got patience.

Speaker 8 That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

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