BEST OF Part 2: Unc & Ocho react to Scary Terry Demanding Out, Micah, Jerry Beef unrepairable?! | Nightcap

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Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, Terry McLaurin has asked commanders to trade him. McLaurin turns 30 in September.
McLaurin in the final year.

Speaker 8 He's in the final year, Ocho, final season of a three-year deal set to make 15.2 million base salary and is currently the 17th highest paid wide receiver in terms of average annual salary. Ocho.

Speaker 8 Get my dog out of there, man. Get my dog out of there, man.
Where are you trading him to? They want to play, huh?

Speaker 8 Trade him to Tennessee. Let him go over there to Tennessee with Cam real quick.
So Cam could do exactly what TJ Stroud did.

Speaker 8 So Cam can do exactly what Jaden Daniels did over there with the Commandos. You know, giving them weapons.
Let put them weapons around him. You know, we got Calvin Ridley.
We got Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 8 And wait, hopefully, we got Tyler Lockett over there too, huh? Right? I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 8 I think I think

Speaker 8 Tyler Lockett in the slot. Come on, man.

Speaker 8 They still got Paula, right? Paula's still a running back? Yes. Oh, come on, man.
Talk about 10F. Tennessee, Tennessee, the Dark, the Dark Horse team to make it the playoffs.

Speaker 8 Terry Mulan over there, since they want to play games.

Speaker 8 Goddamn, Jaden Daniels doesn't have the rocks in his back pocket to be able to go up to management right now and say, Listen, I need my target.

Speaker 8 I don't think you understand. A huge part of my success was actually having number 17 as a target.

Speaker 8 Look at some of the plays they made for us last year. Why is it even

Speaker 8 a no-brainer? I don't care about him being 30.

Speaker 8 I don't care about him being 30. Where else are we going to get the production from?

Speaker 8 Where? No disrespect to Debo Samuels. Nice.

Speaker 8 Very nice at what he does.

Speaker 8 Very nice at what he does. He's a Swiss Army knife.
He can come out the back

Speaker 8 in the slot. He puts him in motion with the ball in his hands.
Yeah, he's a jack. He's phenomenal.
One of the best. Yeah.
for sure. You go into a game and you're playing the commanders.

Speaker 8 They're game planning and setting the defensive formation where Terry McLaurin lines up.

Speaker 8 What are we talking about?

Speaker 8 If what Adam Shepherd is reporting is to be true, he wants way north of 33 million.

Speaker 8 They're not going there, OJo.

Speaker 8 They're not. You know that.
I know that.

Speaker 8 I mean, not, not, not, not, not at 30.

Speaker 8 Not at 30.

Speaker 8 If what Adam, like I said, Adam Shepherd tweeted that.

Speaker 8 Ash, can you find that quote and put it up on the thing to make sure it's the affect the real adam shepherd and we're not getting uh uh uh catfish

Speaker 8 but if what adam sharper reported is that he wants north

Speaker 8 wait i i think the work verbiage and the terms he used was way north of 33 million well but listen

Speaker 8 I want way north of 33 million.

Speaker 8 Stay with me now. Okay.
Commanders say, we're not going to give you north of 33 million. So, okay, let's negotiate.

Speaker 8 Let's find a happy medium that's not disrespectful to me and what I've done for this franchise because the numbers speaks for themselves. Yeah, but Ocho, I ain't going to pay for what you've done.

Speaker 8 Oh, you're ain't going to pay for what you've done. I already paid you for that.
I got to pay you what I'll believe you're going to do now. Well, he's going to continue.

Speaker 8 He's 30, right? Yes. 30.

Speaker 8 He can very well, because of the quarterback play and the quarterbacks you have, he's going to be consistent.

Speaker 8 That's a no-brainer.

Speaker 8 He's not losing a step. Now,

Speaker 8 I just don't know if that number is that number, that North.

Speaker 8 Okay, North at 30, or North at 33.

Speaker 8 Maybe one, 33 and a half. Because think about it.

Speaker 8 You do realize who's at 30, 34, and 35. CD and Jeddah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Way north means he's 36, 37.

Speaker 8 Give my dog 32 and a half.

Speaker 8 Give Terry McLaurin 32 and a half.

Speaker 8 I was thinking more along the lines of a waddle, somewhere, somewhere between, somewhere between 28 and a half.

Speaker 8 Hell no, hell no, hell. Oh, Joe, I'm just, oh, Joe, I, oh, I've just got, I got to be real now.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Give my dog 32 and a half. Talk to me now.
Talk to me nice. Huh? We talk about scary Terry.
We ain't ain't talking about just knowing anybody now.

Speaker 8 Huh? We talk about the one who wear the C on the chest. We talk about the captain, the one who does everything the right way.
He says all the right things. He's the leader of the team.

Speaker 8 He's the leader of the offense. His teammates gave him the C for a reason.
Now it's time to pay him for the exact leap that you asked him to be. And now it's a problem.

Speaker 8 That's what we're doing.

Speaker 8 That's what they're doing. That's what it seems like they're doing.
And nigga, please. I mean, child, please.
I think,

Speaker 8 come on, man. I think 30 million is probably probably what...
I think the 30 is the drop dead number because

Speaker 8 that's where Tyreek is. Ash, pull up the top 10, pull up the other receivers.

Speaker 8 Adam Schefter said he thinks Terry McLaurin wants considerably more than DK got, which was 33 million per year. So considerably more is going to be 35, 36, 37.

Speaker 8 Damn.

Speaker 8 Listen, sometimes

Speaker 8 you gotta shoot high and fast away you know find a happy median i like two for the stars if you're laying on the moon you're still pretty damn high

Speaker 8 you'll be you'll be happy

Speaker 8 i don't like the fact that the players are missing training cam

Speaker 8 i don't like it because you got you get you need that time to be getting pushed and shoved and and getting acclimated to the speed of the game you know catch catching okay oh joe here we are right here jamar chase is at 40 40.25

Speaker 8 Jeddah, 35. CD, 34.
DK, 33. Garrett Wilson, 32.
AJ, 32. Amon Ross St.
Brown, 30. Brandon Ayu, 30.
Tyreek Hill, 30. T.
Higgins, 28,750.

Speaker 8 Yeah, 32 and a half. I'm going to say that again.

Speaker 8 32 and a half. Anything, anything below that is disrespectful.
Put the numbers up.

Speaker 8 Pull the numbers up. See,

Speaker 8 you got them on your screen.

Speaker 8 You see them? Can you see them?

Speaker 8 No, the numbers, no. Okay.
No, but listen, listen, listen. Anything below that and disrespectful, pull the numbers up.

Speaker 8 See, I need to be, I need to be some of these, I need to be assistant to some of these agents when it's time for these receivers to get paid.

Speaker 8 Because not only am I going to pull the numbers up, not only am I going to pull the numbers in the market where everybody's getting paid, I'm also walking there with the goddamn film.

Speaker 8 I'm not sure what y'all been watching. So 32 and a half will put him at Garrett Wilson, Wilson, fifth highest paid, fifth best receiver.
Thank you.

Speaker 8 See, see, okay, it's not, it's not outrageous. It's not too low.
It's right in the middle, and it's not disrespectful.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 what are we talking about? He won't considerably more than 33. All right.
See? Boom. He was shooting for the stars.
If I fall low, I want to fall to the 32 and a half.

Speaker 8 I think you're going to fall at 30.

Speaker 8 No, no, no,

Speaker 8 no.

Speaker 8 See, I need to be in the rooms.

Speaker 8 I need to be in the rooms when it's time for receivers to negotiate. I think the owners and whoever does the numbers and the books, they forgetting what you did.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I'm coming in there with the film. I'm coming there with the film.
Forget what you talk about.

Speaker 8 Let me show you why

Speaker 8 my client deserves.

Speaker 8 What we're asking for. Let me show you why.

Speaker 8 Play by play. I'm going to have all his catches and touchdown broken down

Speaker 8 32 and a half let me show you why 32 and a half down and distance different scenarios remember right come on man stop playing man

Speaker 8 what okay

Speaker 8 i'm the right hey listen i'm the i'm the right one to have when it comes to negotiation and getting somebody i agree i i agree with you i don't think 32 and a half is outrageous uh but i think i think he's gonna fall somewhere i think he's gonna be you know

Speaker 8 And I said, because remember, Waddle. And remember, I said I went 28 and a half, that 28 and a half.
So I think he's going to follow that 28 and a half to 32.

Speaker 8 That's going to be the range. And I don't know if he's going to be too happy with that.

Speaker 8 Because what happens is, is that

Speaker 8 you don't want to come behind a guy, Ocho, when the guy got 32 and a half. And then you come behind him, you get 31 or you get 30.
Because now you've stunted the growth of the wide receiver.

Speaker 8 Now, I get it. You look at Gary Wilson.
Gary Wilson says, hey, 32.5, considering where I was, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 right now, I can't match the production of CD, Jeddah, and Chase. So I can't go up there

Speaker 8 and say, hey, yeah, I need, y'all need to break me off like that.

Speaker 8 Cause Jetta is on some historic-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's Chase is on some historic-ish.

Speaker 8 There's levels to everything. Yes.

Speaker 8 So that's what. And so when you look at it like that, but I get what Terry McLaurin says.
Hold on, bro. Look, hey, y'all need to break me off.

Speaker 8 Come on. 32 and a half.
That's it. Okay.
32 and a half is it.

Speaker 8 If they don't pay him 32 and a half, I'm going to go off on management. I don't know where, but they're going to hear me.

Speaker 8 They're going to hear me. Bills running back, James Cook, did not practice today.

Speaker 8 Cook is seeking a contract extension, but was present at mandatory minicamp, reported to training camp, and had participated thus far. Kevin Shore would ask why he sat out.

Speaker 8 Business, he said, would ask if he will practice Monday. Business.
with James Cook being full pass

Speaker 8 for Buffalo Bills week one against the Ravens. It's being reported.
I don't know if it's true.

Speaker 8 We got to provide context for everything now, Ocho, is that he will ask for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquon.

Speaker 8 James, I don't think you're going to get that, bro.

Speaker 8 I'm just going to be honest with you.

Speaker 8 I think you're

Speaker 8 a fabulous young running back,

Speaker 8 but

Speaker 8 you're not finna get something comparable to

Speaker 8 Saquon.

Speaker 8 I don't think you're going to get something comparable to

Speaker 8 Mac, C-Mac. I don't think you're going to get nothing comparable to D.
Henry. What does Derrick Henry make, Ash?

Speaker 8 16?

Speaker 8 Ooh, that's tough.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, we got to think about Ocho. They just started paying running back the last two years.
It's tough. It's tough.
And listen,

Speaker 8 they started paying the running backs the last two years, and they're playing the tier one running backs, right? Yes. I see James Cook as

Speaker 8 tier two. Right below, right? He's right there.
You know,

Speaker 8 he was an intricate part of that offense last year. He was an intricate part of that offense last year and had very, very, very many plays.

Speaker 8 Very, very many plays.

Speaker 8 He fits very well in that system along with Josh.

Speaker 8 Saquon.

Speaker 8 That's one. D.
Henry. Okay.

Speaker 8 C-Mac. Okay.

Speaker 8 Let me ask you a question. Okay.
So we're going to put Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 8 You like him next? Jonathan Taylor. Ooh,

Speaker 8 I forgot about JT.

Speaker 8 He's in that class, though.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 8 He's in that.

Speaker 8 You know who we don't talk about enough too, since we're on the topic of running backs? Kyron Williams over there with the Rams. Oh, Kyrie Williams.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 Excuse me. Joe Mixon had a nice year.

Speaker 8 I mean, 20, another 20 million.

Speaker 8 I just don't see it. Now, I'm not saying, look,

Speaker 8 deserve, earn.

Speaker 8 I don't see them paying that. that asking price.
Saquon is at 20 million. Kristen McCaffrey is at 19 million.
Derrick Henry is at 15 million. Jonathan Taylor is at 14 million.

Speaker 8 Alvin Kamara is at 12,250. Josh Jacobs, 12.
Aaron Jones, 10. James Conner, 9.
David Montgomery, 9.5. Well, James Conner is 9.5.
David Montgomery, 9.125.

Speaker 8 And Ramondre Stevenson is at 9 million.

Speaker 8 So you see, 10 is at 9 million. 20 is at 20 million.
So he's going to have to fit somewhere in there.

Speaker 8 I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor Henry McCaffrey.

Speaker 8 He said he wants something comparable to Saquon. Saquon's at the top of the food chain at 20.6.

Speaker 8 And he just came off of 2,000. He just came off offensive player of the year.
And he ran his team to the Super Bowl. Yeah,

Speaker 8 that's tough. That's tough.
I love it.

Speaker 8 Derrick Henry just had 1,921 yards led the league in rushing touchdowns yeah we know christian mccaffe the year before uh he was offensive player of the year we know what he is when he is healthy uh jonathan taylor he because saquan and and d henry had such unbelievable seasons we forget he had an unbelievable season also

Speaker 8 But because those two guys were battling out for 2000 and Saquon got it and Henry was like 79 yards short, we kind of forgot about him. And we know Josh Jacobs,

Speaker 8 what he,

Speaker 8 Ocho. Hey, look,

Speaker 8 really? Brother Cook, hold a hold of Jane Cook. My one home team got to get his money though, man.

Speaker 8 He can't be more than 25, Ocho.

Speaker 8 See, oh, so listen, if he's not more than 25, right? If he's not more than 25, there's no reason why he can't be slaughtered at right about

Speaker 8 12, huh? 12 or 13. 12 or 13 is fair.
Even if at 25, you still got a lifespan of maybe another seven years, especially in that offense over there in Buffalo. Yeah.

Speaker 8 In that Pacific offense, you can still, like, I don't think there are that many running backs you can go find right now that can do what James Cook does. I don't think people, let's not be fooled.

Speaker 8 He'll be 26 on, he'll be 26 in September, Ocho. He's 25 curved.
He can't give him that 13, man. Stop playing.

Speaker 8 Give him that 13. He's young.
It's not that many running backs that can do what he does. We're talking about coming out the backfield.

Speaker 8 I agree. I agree.
He can catch the ball. but see oh but see you see how you being realistic you say somewhere between 12 13.

Speaker 8 that's that's good money bro bro he said he want a deal comparable to saquan 20.

Speaker 8 And Saquon, think about it, Ocho. Saquon signed a free agent deal.
Saquon prayed so good, they tore the deal up and made him the highest paid.

Speaker 8 Even after signing a free agent deal, Derrick Henry played so well last year, even after signing a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave him a new deal.

Speaker 8 Damn, man,

Speaker 8 I want my dog to get paid too, man. That's home team, man.

Speaker 8 Home team. Damn.
But I think the thing is, though, you got to be realistic. They just started paying running backs the last year and a half, two years.
Hey, they're paying the special ones, though.

Speaker 8 I think they're paying any and everybody. They're paying the special one, James.
True.

Speaker 8 True. Based on what he does, like, he ain't no motherfucker.
He ain't no slouch. No.
Important part of that offense. He makes that offense go.
Now we know Josh Allen. We know what Josh Allen is.

Speaker 8 Josh Allen is over there with no superstars, no true number one running backs, but I mean, wide receivers.

Speaker 8 But you do have another weapon in goddamn James Cook.

Speaker 8 Huh?

Speaker 8 You got Shakir.

Speaker 8 Nice, solid. Just got paid in the offseason, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Keon Cole,

Speaker 8 an up-and-coming young bull don't they got the kid from san diego didn't they did they didn't they sign him in free agency oh san diego the charges yeah i mean

Speaker 8 the la charges yeah didn't they sign palmer

Speaker 8 josh palmer is over there huh is it josh josh palmer right i think that's who it is i think his first name josh if i'm not mistaken

Speaker 8 Hey, God damn, but that's a tough one. Listen, honestly,

Speaker 8 I wouldn't want to be an owner. I I wouldn't want to be a GM.

Speaker 8 He's about to be 26. He's going to be Joshua Palmer.
Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't want to be a GM when it comes to like

Speaker 8 fringe situations like this.

Speaker 8 We can go either way. I want to be a GM where it comes to no-brainers.
Oh, that's easy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, no, no. You got to make tough decisions.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I don't like the tough decisions like this.

Speaker 8 Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay, do I get off this guy?

Speaker 8 And then one time you get off somebody, like you let somebody go, and then they go gangbusters, kind of like what Derrick Henry did. They're like, what the hell were you thinking about?

Speaker 8 You let Derrick Henry go, the bro.

Speaker 8 But also, listen.

Speaker 8 Giants, what are you thinking about? You let Saquon go? Yeah, but listen. Tennessee, what the hell are you thinking? You let A.J.
Brown go? Yeah. But this is the thing, huh?

Speaker 8 You have to think about it. The timing and the places where these individuals went was very important.
Yes. Very important.

Speaker 8 Saquon left a disgruntled, a not-so-good offense in New York and went to the Philadelphia Eagles with the best offensive line. True.

Speaker 8 Tennessee, I'm not sure what you were thinking or what you were looking at. Because Derrick Henry, then

Speaker 8 Derrick Henry is going to be Derrick Henry wherever he goes.

Speaker 8 Okay. So

Speaker 8 that's tough. Yeah, we wish you.

Speaker 8 Cook, get your money, baby. Do what you got.

Speaker 8 13, 14, 15, maybe in that range, but not 19, 20.

Speaker 8 13, 5, 13, 13, 5. He's only 25.

Speaker 8 Hey, Josh Allen. Josh Allen, man, you need to interfere, intervene.
Intervene, please. Intervene.
Listen, you know how much power Josh got? Do you understand? I don't think people understand.

Speaker 8 Do you know how much power the quarterback, the quarterback has in situations like this?

Speaker 8 Man, Josh goes there right now, man.

Speaker 8 What's the owner name? I forgot his name.

Speaker 8 I met him.

Speaker 8 Gula. gula.
Yeah, his daughter's really good at tennis, huh? Yes. She's really good at tennis.
You know, Mr. Pagula, man, Josh, go out there, man.
Listen, Mr.

Speaker 8 Pagula, I don't want any more distractions. I don't want any more distractions.

Speaker 8 Brother Cook, Brother Cook is a very important part of our offense.

Speaker 8 He takes some of the pressure off me, some of the pressure off my shoulders.

Speaker 8 Let's find a way to get

Speaker 8 you 330 million. I need to put more pressure on your shoulders.
So get out of my office.

Speaker 8 Nah, hell nah. As a matter of fact, I've been to trade it

Speaker 8 for three. Hey, for 330 million, for 300, what, for 330 million, what I pay you and 250 million guaranteed, Ocho? Nah, bro, I ain't trying to take no pressure off your shoulder.

Speaker 8 Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to do that, Josh.

Speaker 8 ah

Speaker 8 no hey that's a good one hey that's a good one i forgot i forgot he paid josh all that goddamn money tripping

Speaker 8 oh shoot

Speaker 8 and this is uh micah and jerry they've kind of been going back and forth over the weekend hey micah posted a link a lengthy message on social media on friday concluding with a statement that he no longer wants to play for the cowboys yes i wanted to be there i did everything i could to show that i wanted to be a cowboy and wear the star on my helmet.

Speaker 8 I wanted to play in front of the best fans in sports and make America's team proud, Murray's team once again. The team, my pops and I grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, PA.

Speaker 8 He is from Harrisburg, Ocho. You know, normally Harrisburg, normally that's Steeler or Eagles country.
A lot of people like the Steelers up in Harrisburg.

Speaker 8 But hey, if, you know, if you're in Pennsylvania and you root for the Eagles, I mean, you got two teams, but if you root for the Eagles, I ain't going to hold that against you.

Speaker 8 If you root for the Steelers, I'm not gonna hold that against you. But think about it.
He is in Steelers, Eagle Territory, and he and his pops are Cowboys fans. Unfortunately,

Speaker 8 I no longer want to be here. I no longer want to be held to a closed-door negotiation without my agent present.

Speaker 8 I no longer want shots taken at me for getting injured while laying it on the line for the organization, our fans, my teammates. I no longer want narratives created and spread to the media about me.

Speaker 8 I knew I would be leaving money on the table, but again, I was okay with that.

Speaker 8 Again, radio silence as uh my extension in march i met with mr jones to talk about leadership somehow the conversation turned into him talking about contract with me yes i engaged back and forth in regards to what i wanted from my contract but at no point did i believe this was supposed to be a form of negotiation that and i informed mr jones after

Speaker 8 Major would reach out thinking get things done. I stayed quiet, but again, after repeated shots at myself and all these narratives, I made a tough decision.
I no longer want to play for the Cowboys.

Speaker 8 My trade request has been submitted to Stephen Jones personally.

Speaker 8 Ocho, take off. What's your take on this? Listen, hey, I just, I just, I don't understand.

Speaker 8 It's one thing for owners to think a certain way,

Speaker 8 to not really value the people that, the players that lay it all on the line for you, but you have a certain way of conducting yourself.

Speaker 8 You already have a history of things that are frowned upon when it comes to

Speaker 8 us, anyway, way, way back.

Speaker 8 I don't need to bring that up, but to continue to show us during the Kaepernick era time as well, the one owner that came out and said, All our players will be standing.

Speaker 8 Yo, we're going to hold the line if you play for my team. And just to see how he conducts business and the way he does business, despite being the most

Speaker 8 profitable franchise of all sports,

Speaker 8 the way he did CD, the way he did Ezekiel Elliott, the way he did Dak,

Speaker 8 Now, the way he's doing Michael Parsons.

Speaker 8 This time, even going a little further across the line and talking about him in a way, like, well, even if we do pay him, he might not be available like he was last year.

Speaker 8 Like, you don't, you don't even

Speaker 8 say stuff like that as the owner when he's busting his ass for you and your team. Obviously, do what his job is and what you pay him to do.

Speaker 8 Injuries are a part of a sport, but to hear your owner, the one who signed the check, to to say it and to say how he really feels publicly to the world.

Speaker 8 That's the kind of stuff like it gets out, it slips out because somebody recorded it. Somebody stuck a conversation, but he just like proudly.
He blurted it out.

Speaker 8 Letting you know how he feels about you. How could you want to line up and put that hat on? How could you want to wear that star outside of just doing it for the money? See, if we talk about it, Ocho.

Speaker 8 That's why I like to have somebody because he might have told the agent that, but the agent never would have come back and told me or you that. Exactly.
Right. You never want to be a part of, right?

Speaker 8 You never want to be a part of negotiations because the real them comes out. And the agent never discloses that.
Right. You will be upset.

Speaker 8 Everybody will be upset on how they feel about you because when it comes to business, they are shrewd. Right.

Speaker 8 This is what they do. This is not what you do.

Speaker 8 I don't have a problem. I think Bobby Wagner was one of the first ones that says, you know, I no longer have an agent.
I'm going to negotiate my own contract. I think Sherm did that.

Speaker 8 I think we saw Lamar and his mom negotiate their own contract i don't have a problem with that if you says i'm going to be my own representative i'm going to engage in these talks with whomever be it jerry stephen or whomever is doing this contract negotiations i'm cool with that right but if i tell you i have representation don't try to get isolate me right and back back though you you know buddy that's why i have representation because this is what they do i'm giving him a percentage of the total contract because i want him to negotiate on my behalf.

Speaker 8 So that's why Jerry had him going to all these places. Hey, Michael, come on, fly on the plane because he's trying to, no, no, no, no.
Now, if Michael says, you know what, Jerry, you're right.

Speaker 8 I can do this on my own. And then that way I don't have to give David his agent.
I won't have to give him 2%, 3%, or whatever the case may be, whatever he charges. I just keep that for myself.

Speaker 8 But that's not what Michael said. No.
Michael says, hey, I have an agent.

Speaker 8 He's like, I thought this was the start of the negotiation hey hey david mugaletta is looking forward to hearing from you hey told him we had a great conversation yeah he'll take it from here

Speaker 8 jerry thought they had a done deal

Speaker 8 no mic ain't no no no mic are not stupid no

Speaker 8 hey but but this is this is the part i don't understand this goes for everybody also in the chat you have certain players you have special players that come along we i call them no-brainers I call them players that are no-brainers.

Speaker 8 When they come in, when they get drafted, and you watch them play year to year, it's a no-brainer when it's time to pay them.

Speaker 8 Right, Michael Parsons is a no-brainer, the Gerald Paces are no-brainers, the Justin Jeffersons are no-brainers. Amar Ross St.

Speaker 8 Brown, I'm just using uh receivers uh for perspective, those are no-brainers. You know, there's no reason to play a game when it comes to a player of that magnitude,

Speaker 8 even if they're

Speaker 8 whatever the books may say, like stuff like that. Well, you know what?

Speaker 8 We have one player on defense, it's our superstar.

Speaker 8 The ball, the ball should have been rolling, huh? The season should have started another three weeks. What are we talking? Why are we still talking about contract with the no-brainer?

Speaker 8 Yeah, because think about it. What it costs to bingers, it cost them an extra $6 million a year or next to $24 million over four years because you waited a year.

Speaker 8 It probably costs you an extra $30 million in guarantees because you waited an extra year.

Speaker 8 So you have to pay a tax, you have to pay a penalty. If you're late, let me ask you a question.
If you late on your rent, you pay a penalty. If you late, if you got

Speaker 8 something at the court and you're late, if you owe Uncle Sam, there's a penalty for being late. If you negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service.

Speaker 8 Now,

Speaker 8 with all that being said, Jerry didn't have to say any of that, but Jerry's just going to show you. See, now Jerry, he's got to let you know who's in charge.
Yeah. Well, we are.
Because it is

Speaker 8 reported that as the representative has been trying to reach out, Jerry ain't returned no calls. On purpose.
Absolutely. On purpose.

Speaker 8 Absolutely. Just to prove a point.
What point he's trying to prove? I have no idea. I run this show.

Speaker 8 I'm going to show you.

Speaker 8 I'll pay you when I get ready. Like you do me.

Speaker 8 Like you do me over 5900. Me? You basically told me I'm going to pay you when I get ready.
Oh, no,

Speaker 8 I ain't say that. I mean, I.
No, no, your actions did.

Speaker 8 I'm gonna take care of you, baby. I'm not Jerry.
I don't, I don't like that comparison. Don't do me like that.
Don't yeah, you this is we come up on a year. It's a penalty for being late.
I got you.

Speaker 8 I got you. I got one thing about it.
Thank you, Lord.

Speaker 8 I need to see, you got it, but I need to get it. Right, right.
You know, hey, you know,

Speaker 8 pockets light right now, Joe.

Speaker 8 I get light right now.

Speaker 8 That's why I love you. That's why I love you.

Speaker 8 That's what I need. Come on, come on back home.

Speaker 8 That's what I need. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
That's the candidate I need.

Speaker 8 We're going to be all right.

Speaker 8 We're going to be all right. I'm telling you.

Speaker 8 Hey, Ty Trippett said, we're going to be all right. We good.

Speaker 8 And Micah, Micah said, when you back me in a corner,

Speaker 8 I don't even be here no more.

Speaker 8 Hey, if you think, I tell you what, if you upset, talk about I might not be here, I missed six games, trade me. Yeah,

Speaker 8 see what the market is and trade me.

Speaker 8 Man, listen, but hey, he, if, if, if Jerry was to play, but obviously, you know, he's not gonna do that, but you know, Micah could reset the market by what he's gonna reset the market anyway, he might get 50.

Speaker 8 I mean, I'm I definitely believe he can get 45, yeah, easy. I believe I can get, I believe, he can get 45.

Speaker 8 Uh, whatever Miles get, whatever Miles Gary got and guaranteed money, I think he got got miles got 123

Speaker 8 he go what he go 140.

Speaker 8 easy but this is the only part i don't like is whatever team he goes to it wouldn't be a contender it'd be a team that has a lot of room a lot of salary cap room so they'll be able to pay him that eagles will trade for it

Speaker 8 the commanders will definitely trade for it commanders the eagles that's not fair that's that's not fair hey if he was to go to the eagles and they gave up whatever compensation they would want for michael parsons then you might as well hand him the goddamn lombardi now

Speaker 8 Just go, just go ahead and get it. Well, Jared said, he worried about him missing time.
He won't have to worry about it.

Speaker 8 He don't have to worry about paying him, and he ain't got to worry about him getting injured and missing time on his dime. So, with that being said,

Speaker 8 and at some point in time, it's just like, bro, what are we doing here?

Speaker 8 I get it. I get it.
You own the team.

Speaker 8 You said, hey, I'm in my fifth year. We could have done something after year four.
I mean, year three. We could have done something after year four.
So now we're into

Speaker 8 option. You picked up my fifth year player option.
That's where we are right now. Yeah.
After four Pro Bowls, two, three first team all pros, defensive rookie of the year.

Speaker 8 12 sacks a season, 12 sacks, four years in a row. Come on, Han.

Speaker 8 So is that what we're doing right now? Jerry, really?

Speaker 8 Really? That's what we're doing?

Speaker 8 It couldn't, it could, listen.

Speaker 8 I can't say it couldn't be me because.

Speaker 8 He said this is negotiating, no show. He said we're negotiating now.
Right. But it's a shrewd business.
it's a shrewd business and the fact that he he let his feelings

Speaker 8 out publicly like that yeah it says all you need to know yeah it says

Speaker 8 to know i think you and i look we've played sports and we've been in the we negotiate when negotiation gets personal you got to be careful ocho yeah you got to be careful yeah in any type of negotiation right whatever the case may be,

Speaker 8 if it starts to get personal,

Speaker 8 one side will start to build up a resentment towards the other side right

Speaker 8 right

Speaker 8 but and then even when he gets the money they still feel a certain way and then the other person that gave you the money still feels a certain type of way the funny thing about it is regardless for us as the player we're never in a position of leverage we're never no we're never in a position of power but unless you let unless unless you're like you know what you turn out to be you're like damn i'm balling i'm rook defensive rookie of of the year.

Speaker 8 I'm all pro. And I really just sit on my money and I'm, I'm willing to say, okay, y'all playing.
I see y'all week eight. So I can get that.
I'll see y'all week eight. So I get that best of year.

Speaker 8 Come in, give me another quick eight sacks. Now what y'all going to do?

Speaker 8 Y'all play, y'all play, I play. Right.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But see, that's the thing.

Speaker 8 If you didn't have, see, Jerry knows he has leverage. He has a fifth year player option, which is this year, and he has two franchise tags.
Ooh. So just imagine,

Speaker 8 just imagine.

Speaker 8 See, Dak, you see what Dak wrote in his contracts?

Speaker 8 No franchise tags. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 No franchise tags. Quarterback, he can do that.

Speaker 8 Hey,

Speaker 8 put that in there. Right.

Speaker 8 Hey, no, you can't franchise me because that's the leverage that they got. Because I got, I got, theoretically, Mike, I got you for this year and two more.

Speaker 8 Damn. That's

Speaker 8 unbelievable

Speaker 8 the game that they play. You already know how they feel, right?

Speaker 8 You already know how they feel about you.

Speaker 8 You know, it's one thing that they say, and I hate to bring it up because the first thing when you compare the NFL to a certain term they want to use, the first thing people bring up, well, you get paid millions.

Speaker 8 But it's modern day, you know what, but you get paid millions.

Speaker 8 You know, but that's neither here nor there, but just to hear Jerry say it, just the fact that he uttered the words with confidence

Speaker 8 out of care in the world about your star player. And then he took a shot at Dak.

Speaker 8 What are we doing?

Speaker 8 Well, look, Dak realized he's the quarterback. Dak is the leader of the team, yes.
But he and Jerry, it's not like, see, Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Dak is always hydrant posed Jerry

Speaker 8 because it was Jerry that wanted to give Tony Romo his job back.

Speaker 8 That wasn't happening. Oh, he did.
He got, he kind of got, you know, Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few others like, Jerry, what are you doing?

Speaker 8 What are you, what, what, are you, are you serious? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Even after all those injuries that

Speaker 8 Tony Romo, he paid him.

Speaker 8 He ain't mentioned nothing about no injury.

Speaker 8 He didn't mention nothing about that. And at one point in time, Tony Romo was the highest paid player in the NFL.

Speaker 8 Hey. Without blinking.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Jerry also spoke with the reporters about Michael Tray requests. Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say.

Speaker 9 Would you ever consider trading Michael Tray? Again,

Speaker 9 I don't

Speaker 9 really place that

Speaker 9 with any

Speaker 9 real seriousness.

Speaker 9 You know, Mike has got a bad back.

Speaker 9 That's like being traded. Did the requests take you by surprise?

Speaker 9 Did the requests take you by surprise?

Speaker 9 Again, no, that's negotiation. I've heard that so many times in my 30 years in the NFL about

Speaker 9 from

Speaker 9 not just players, but agents. And of course,

Speaker 9 we all understand

Speaker 9 contracts we're under contract

Speaker 9 that's what we're doing we're looking at adjusting the contract but we're under contract and we're in camp and that's the way the the rules are set up but

Speaker 9 that is

Speaker 9 old stuff 30 years of old stuff this

Speaker 9 some of these issues we're hearing about trading hurt backs all that kind of stuff what do you start when do you start negotiations with his people, Jerry County?

Speaker 9 Again,

Speaker 9 I've started negotiations in March.

Speaker 9 I said I started negotiation in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls of contracts just like I did in March. He thought it was good.
Again, again, again, again, are you asking me? Yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 I started that in March. I questioned with him in negotiations.
My question

Speaker 9 is. The meeting was about leadership, not about his contract.
It's my answer. It's my answer.

Speaker 9 I was negotiating in march again i sat with him at the big 12 conference championships sat with him at the super bowl so uh uh mike is uh uh easy for me to talk to and we've had good talks and uh uh we uh uh had a good talk regarding negotiation under contract the way i have many many many players

Speaker 8 man he says something very interesting oh cho what part he says michael's under contract but what about when players are under contract and they get cut they don't care You know they don't care.

Speaker 8 They got one side. He's talking about, oh, we have contract, we have rules, but the rules are one-sided.

Speaker 8 If I outperform the contract, want a new contract, you say, whoa, whoa, you're under contract. If I underperform the contract that I signed, you say, you got to go.

Speaker 8 You see,

Speaker 8 this is what players should be. This is why they fight so hard to try to get guaranteed money.

Speaker 8 This is what you should be, instead of petty privileges, instead of worried about tour days and worry about how many padded practices you have during the course of the year.

Speaker 8 These are the things that true leadership in the NFLPA, this is what you should be fighting for. I'm getting rid of the, no, we're not doing no franchise tag.
Right.

Speaker 8 Look, if I, if I, if, if I'm at a normal job and I'm, I want to, my contract is coming up, they can't say, well, we're going to franchise you.

Speaker 8 And if I work for Google, that means I can't go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft. No.

Speaker 8 Free agency, how can you be free if you can't, you under tag? They got a tag on you. Free agency means I'm free to negotiate wherever.

Speaker 8 And there can't be a cap because whatever the market will bear. I just saw

Speaker 8 Mark Zuckerberg just pay a guy, AI guy, 250 million, gave him 100 million up front.

Speaker 8 That's what free agency is.

Speaker 8 All I'm saying is, and we're going to get, I just hope the next person is the NFL PA. I'm here.

Speaker 8 This is some of the things.

Speaker 8 Health benefits. No sal, no.

Speaker 8 No franchise tag. No

Speaker 8 franchise tag. You got to go.
Guaranteed contracts. Yeah, man.
Because

Speaker 8 you can't have it both ways. You can negotiate with me when you want to, but you can also cut me when you want to.
See, so if I outperform the contract, you say you got a contract.

Speaker 8 I underperform the contract. You didn't perform up to the standard.
And so now you're going. Yeah.
So you got to be careful. They need somebody.

Speaker 8 All right. I know you think you view me, you view me as the fun, the love, the entertainment, the jokes, and the laughter, but they need somebody shrewd that could be shrewd right back.

Speaker 8 When it comes to conducting business, you got to be someone that's fighting for the players, not minimizing the players and pretending like I'm for you, but really siding on the other end.

Speaker 8 Man, listen, you know how we talk.

Speaker 8 The NFL owners don't want to lose the leverage. Baseball, players have the leverage.
Basketball, the players have the leverage.

Speaker 8 All sports where contracts are guaranteed, the players have the leverage. I think so many players on a team, NFL owners don't want to lose the leverage of the players.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'm like, guess what? And I don't know when this back injury, hey, I ain't putting no Ben Gay on it either. So I don't know when this back issue, because it flares up.

Speaker 8 Every time I go to put that helmet on, my back starting to hurt, Ocho. Yeah, every time.

Speaker 8 Every time.

Speaker 8 He could play hardball. He could play hardball.
But listen,

Speaker 8 with owners, GMs, everyone that sits in a position of power on the NFL team, what they will use against you is they know you'll probably fold before I do because you love the game.

Speaker 8 You love the game. Yep.
They're banking on it.

Speaker 8 They banking on it. You're going to fold before they do.
So you, hey, you got, you got to play hardball.

Speaker 8 How hard do you want to play the game? Because they're going to play with you. They're going to test you.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You see how agitated he got? I negotiated in March. Yeah.
And I answered the question already. No, Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership.

Speaker 8 He referred you to his agent. You asking me? Yeah, we're asking you, but we talked to Micah too.

Speaker 8 Listen, can you imagine? Hey, chat, I don't, I don't mean, I don't, I'm not, I'm not into, really into hypotheticals, but could you imagine if Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys?

Speaker 8 Can you imagine if they were the ones in charge with the talent that they had?

Speaker 8 Because they've drafted like the second, they've drafted like the second most since what, 2014, maybe the second. They might be first with the Chiefs as far as Pro Bowl players.
Imagine.

Speaker 8 How many times have they been the number one seed and got bounced

Speaker 8 in the first round or the second round?

Speaker 8 With that talent.

Speaker 8 Hold on. When they had the best running back in football, Zeke Elliott, the best offensive line in football, and

Speaker 8 when they were putting eight, nine, ten guys into the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 8 When they had those teams with Romo and Witten and T.O., and they had DeMarcus Ware, and they had all those guys.

Speaker 8 Boy, it was nice, but they were loaded, boy.

Speaker 8 They were loaded. But I think I'm not sure why Jerry

Speaker 8 can't get it or can't see it. Jerry wants credit.
Listen, but you look at the Patriots, right? Look at all the teams that are successful every season. Every season.

Speaker 8 The Patriots, when they, their dynasty and their good years. You had Belichick.
You had Tom Brady. Forget that part.
Where did it start?

Speaker 8 Mr. Crab.

Speaker 8 And the only time you heard from Mr. Craft is when he was taking the trophy out of Roger Goodell's hand.
That's it. But everything starts at the top.
Winning starts

Speaker 8 from the front office and it trickles all the way down. Right.

Speaker 8 But Jerry wants it to be about him. The Chiefs.

Speaker 8 That's why people are like, oh, Tom Brady should go to the Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Boy, you.

Speaker 8 Tom Brady said, Jerry, I'll play for you for a million dollars. And Jerry would have told him, hell no, because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom.

Speaker 8 And Jerry don't want nobody to be on the Cowboys to be bigger than him.

Speaker 8 So that's not going to happen.

Speaker 8 I don't get why he's doing it like this. But look,

Speaker 8 they go, I guess this is their, you know, how you have a negotiation in the media. Right.
And when it should be negotiated behind closed doors, oh, well, X, Y, and Z, we negotiated.

Speaker 8 We had a deal done. Michael said, well, hey.
I want to, hey, I don't even want to play for y'all no more. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Let me go. Hey, let me go somewhere.
And Jerry's continuing to do this on purpose because it does what? It keeps whose team in the media? Yeah, in the media, we're talking about them. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Because ain't nobody. I mean, are we, I mean, the only other team that we talk about

Speaker 8 is Cleveland and Shador.

Speaker 8 We really, if you really think about it, Ocho, we ain't really having a discussion about no, no, you know, we talk here and there about, you know, the bro match between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 8 I was just reading a little bit about

Speaker 8 Matthew Stafford got something going on with his back or something. yeah but for the most part ocho

Speaker 8 it's the cowboys the micah jerry and you got your door yeah that's pretty

Speaker 8 it's it's it's it's been a really a relative quiet training camp cycle

Speaker 8 and you know jerry's like hey let me let me let me start some ish

Speaker 8 like hey ain't no no ain't enough pop it off for us right now let me start some ish and uh and to see where this thing go yeah

Speaker 8 the funny thing about it what i don't like is is

Speaker 8 for Micah, I feel bad for Micah.

Speaker 8 I feel bad for the Cowboys, the fans. I feel bad for the players because to know that this is how your owner thinks of you.

Speaker 8 If you can talk about your star players like that, you really know what he thinks about you.

Speaker 8 And Jerry

Speaker 8 is at a forefront and letting people know nobody runs this show with me and nobody

Speaker 8 bigger than my program. Yeah.
Nobody bigger than my program. Well, you look,

Speaker 8 even, even a the team,

Speaker 8 Jerry, just so you know,

Speaker 8 every team gets a check cut for 432 million. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So it's not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not.

Speaker 8 It sells itself.

Speaker 8 At this point, it does. Just like all the other teams, all the other teams sell themselves.

Speaker 8 Granted, now, when it comes to the local market, they probably don't do what Jerry does.

Speaker 8 Because it's Dallas, you know, obviously they don't sell in Jacksonville or Cincinnati or Houston or Tennessee like they do. Okay, fine.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 they're not going to be in the line tomorrow either.

Speaker 8 But just keep doing it that way.

Speaker 8 He's going to get tired of Philly. He's going to get tired of Philly and Washington running the divisions.
He get tired of it. Listen,

Speaker 8 it's been 30 years. If he was going to get tired of it,

Speaker 8 he would have already picked up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued to do it his way.
He's setting his ways at the end.

Speaker 8 Of course.

Speaker 8 He's not going to change. If I was the the owner of any team, I'd be taking notes.
Okay, this is what Kraft did. This is what Belichick did.
Okay, this is what Howie and Jeff and Jeff did.

Speaker 8 This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid, how they handle business. Okay, let me see the Rooney's.
The Rooney's had success during this era.

Speaker 8 All right, we're in a different era, but let me see if I can steal some of the things that they did and how they conducted business.

Speaker 8 Let me add this to my and came up with my own game plan, my own formula on how to conduct things, draft right, pay early, keep certain people. Man,

Speaker 8 that's what they do. They pay early.
We identify a guy. We drafted him, a homegrown guy.
Let's get him a year three.

Speaker 8 You know, they got Carloftis. It's going to take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed.

Speaker 8 But, you know.

Speaker 8 Are they going to sign McDuffie? Because you let LeGeria Sneed. Yeah,

Speaker 8 they're not going to let him go. Yeah.
They're not going to let him go.

Speaker 8 Later in the presser, Jerry tried to use Daz Bratt negotiation as reasoning for not wanting to work with Michael Parsons' agent. Let's take a listen to what Jerry said about this.

Speaker 9 Why would you yourself not talk to the agent? Because the agent, when we have a problem within a team and a player, I don't ever find the agent. He's nowhere to be found.

Speaker 9 Okay?

Speaker 9 Jay-Z said that Michael would make all, not Michael, but that Dez would make all meetings.

Speaker 9 Jay-Z and I negotiated the contract. We spent hours negotiating the contract.
Jay-Z.

Speaker 9 And he said anybody in my organization is on time

Speaker 9 so my office used to be on the street corner and i've always been early so they will be on time i said where did i sign but i'm gonna call you

Speaker 9 uh finally he quit taking my call

Speaker 8 i know jared jared dry snitched on dance

Speaker 8 the hell what does that have to do with any goddamn thing huh he said the reason why i don't like working with agents because the agent told me that this client was going to be on time. Right.

Speaker 8 That's what he told me. He said, I'm used to working on the street corner.
And if you work on the street corner, if you're late,

Speaker 8 if you're early, you're late. So you best believe my guy.
If they're in this organization, which was Rock Nation, they're going to be on time.

Speaker 8 This was Deb's response. Jerry Jones, I don't think it's smart mentioning my name.
I kept quiet about a lot of unfair-ish. Oh, some G-ish.
We have a story time. That's what we do it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. You know, you know, you know, you know, Dez got he got his little piece, but you can't win that war.
Yeah,

Speaker 8 you can't, there's you can't, you can't win that war. No, no, you can't win that war.
And what, what I, what I, I wouldn't do, uh, I'm not getting into it with, I'm not getting

Speaker 8 Jerry is the type of tell all your business, yeah.

Speaker 8 He, oh Joe, that's look, okay, Dez was late for meeting, okay, yeah, I get it, yeah, sure, who wasn't because I was too,

Speaker 8 but Jerry

Speaker 8 might not might like, hold on, no, Jerry, you can't say that. Oh, I was supposed to tell that much.

Speaker 8 You're, you know, Jerry, hey, hey, you know, the old people, oh, Joe, when they measure, they don't really have no measuring. They go by feel, they go by, okay, this and that.
Ain't no measuring cup.

Speaker 8 See,

Speaker 8 some, some, you know, coaches, owners might measure. Okay, I'll get a little bit.
Jerry just poor. Hey, listen.

Speaker 8 If he can do

Speaker 8 to Micah, who is of value to his franchise right now, what do you think he'll do to Dez, who is of no value right now? Yeah. Playing for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, so I went, and also, I wouldn't want to, there's certain bridges I don't want to burn. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8 Certain bridges I don't want to burn because you never know when you might have to cross them again.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Dez, but

Speaker 8 I'm sure Dez was sitting on his couch. Right.

Speaker 8 No, Dez was probably playing

Speaker 8 Madden because you say Dan's good with the sticks. Yeah, yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 8 What the hell I got to do with this? I'm minding my own business. And

Speaker 8 you bring me into this.

Speaker 8 And you know what's funny is we have people on the outside, you know, looking at it.

Speaker 8 They're just owners. And

Speaker 8 I want people to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are outside of the game of football.

Speaker 8 I want people to understand. So when I just said there's certain bridges you don't want to burn, even if,

Speaker 8 okay, you know what he said, something you don't like. Well, you know what? There's certain things you got to let go because you go on the war with something you will never be able to defeat.

Speaker 8 And it can ruin a lot of things for you outside,

Speaker 8 if you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 Them folks is very,

Speaker 8 very, very powerful outside of football. I think people don't, I don't, you know, I think people really don't, really don't understand the power that these individuals have.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, they do.

Speaker 8 I mean, I mean, the cat, just a regular, regular football fans, like people in the chat. I don't know, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, how powerful, yeah, these people are.
Yeah,

Speaker 8 I told them Mr. Bowling calling got my money back.

Speaker 8 Oh, Cho.

Speaker 8 I can,

Speaker 8 if I give you the right tools, I can you can probably win the war, but I got to give you the right weapons to go fight.

Speaker 8 I don't know currently if Micah has the weapon to fight.

Speaker 8 Now, I don't have no leverage on him.

Speaker 8 Nope. It's unfair.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 8 But I'm like, hello. How long Daz been Daz, how long have you been retiring? Seven years?

Speaker 8 Eight years? I'm not sure why he even brought Dez's name up. Yes.

Speaker 8 It didn't make no sense.

Speaker 8 Because here's the thing. You could say that you didn't have to use Daz.
You could have said there have been times that the agent told me that player X was going to get treatment.

Speaker 8 Player X was going to do X, Y, and Z. Right.
When player X does not do that, and I try to get on the phone with the agent, now all of a sudden, he won't return the calls.

Speaker 8 Now, but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. Right.

Speaker 8 I got all it. I got all his phone.

Speaker 8 I got his landline. And you know, a whole lot of people ain't got landlines no more, but I got his landline.
I got the number to the secretary. I got his personal phone number.
I got X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 8 All I'm saying is he didn't have to use Dez.

Speaker 8 It ain't make no sense. He didn't have to use Dez.

Speaker 8 It didn't make no sense. And I could assure you, Dez is not, but Dez, hey, just let it just let it rock.
Let it slide.

Speaker 8 You good. Hey, you the major money.
You straight. You live in Dallas.
You got a nice life.

Speaker 8 Don't mess it up with some, some petty bulljive. It ain't worth it, bro.
You know that. I know it's frustrating that he's dragging you into something you ain't got nothing to do with.

Speaker 8 That's between Jerry Micah and David McGletta. Yeah.
They ain't got nothing to do as Bryant. Dez Bryant.
I don't know if there is an age. I don't know if Rock Nation has a client on the Cowboys.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 8 All I do know is that

Speaker 8 Dez's name shouldn't have been brought up

Speaker 8 when you're trying to make a point of why you don't like negotiating with agents.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 all these million. So let me, so I'm just saying.
Jerry throwing everybody under the bus, huh?

Speaker 8 Jerry throwing everybody under the bus.

Speaker 8 Reversing over.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Lee, what man, what we doing?

Speaker 8 He backed up over.

Speaker 8 But I thought that was the whole thing. That's the whole thing about having an agent.

Speaker 8 I mean, when Jerry, when Jerry, I guarantee you, when Jerry goes negotiating these $100 million deals, Jerry send his $100 million lawyers in there to go shake with the other companies, $100 million lawyers.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 8 And you think him and Mooguletta don't get along? You think they got some personal issues or something? No, Mooguleta is going to be looking to reset the market.

Speaker 8 Damn. The same thing Todd Franz did when he got Dax money.
Now, I don't know who represents CD, but I know Todd France represents Dak.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, I'm looking to reset the market because I want to keep climbing higher. And I'm trying to get as much money as I guarantee.

Speaker 8 Because

Speaker 8 I'm trying to get

Speaker 8 who got the most guaranteed money? Miles Garrett, 123. Okay.
I'm trying to get 140. Because we're going to keep pushing it.

Speaker 8 We're going to keep pushing it. Oh, Lamar Jackson said, oh, did y'all see what Josh Allen got guaranteed? I'm going to need that.

Speaker 8 Because he got one MVP. I got two.

Speaker 8 Matter of fact, you know. You should have had three.

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 shoot, Lamar going back to the table after this season.

Speaker 8 Hell, Lamar tried to go back to the table to the table before this season. Yeah, well, it's gonna happen.
I'm sure it'll hit the ticket at some point. I'm just saying, hey, I'm just saying, look,

Speaker 8 if you're talking about north of what Josh got, yeah, holler at your boy. Yeah, if that ain't what you're looking for, if that ain't what you're looking for,

Speaker 8 what we talking about,

Speaker 8 damn.

Speaker 8 I mean, what's the mark 28, 29? He's straight, he's good, good. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Boy, Dick.

Speaker 8 Man, I can't believe Jerry be throwing everybody under the bus. Hey, man, Jerry, man,

Speaker 8 Jerry don't care, man.

Speaker 8 Buddy don't care, man. He's thunder.
Jerry, you do realize these. First of all, Jared, you do realize these are supposed to be private conversations.

Speaker 8 Like when you talk to an agent, you're supposed to be private. This man mentioned Jay-Z by name.
He said, I did a deal with Jay-Z myself. So he going to be on time.

Speaker 8 He said, Tell me where I signed at right there.

Speaker 8 Hey, man, oh, I had a conversation with Mike in March at the Big 12 championship at the Super Bowl, right? Right, bro.

Speaker 8 Nothing to do with nothing. This is this is business, man.

Speaker 8 Hey, I didn't find out, Jerry, you wearing a wire.

Speaker 8 You're telling all about you, telling everybody business.

Speaker 8 Oh, thank you. Jerry put it out there, man.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Dave's Deb's responded. I read the quote, Jared Jones.
I don't think it's smart to mention my name. I kept quiet about a lot of unfair-ish on some G-ish.

Speaker 8 We can have a story time if that's what we're doing. Nah, just let it rock, Deb.
Let it rock, Deb.

Speaker 8 Rock Nation, Terrence Steele. Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 Terrence Steele, he's the right tackle. on the Cowboys.
Rock Nation also responded.

Speaker 8 In 2015, at the club, at 21 Club, on a napkin, Jerry Jones, Juan Perez, Sean Jay-Z Carter, and Stephen Jones negotiated a five-year, $70 million deal, which included $45 million guarantee and a $20 million signing bonus for Dev Bryant at the time, which was the second largest contract for a wide receiver in NFL history.

Speaker 8 The claim that Mr. Carter or Rock Nation representative did not return a call from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but it's also a comical one.

Speaker 8 Rock Nation sports, you know, sports representative.

Speaker 8 So not not jerry lying too

Speaker 8 well shoot you know who don't we we all we all listen but

Speaker 8 he ain't handling business the right way

Speaker 8 he ain't handling business the right way

Speaker 8 nope

Speaker 8 but guess what he don't care

Speaker 8 definitely don't he don't care he don't care

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Speaker 10 What a matchup we got, y'all. This is that classic HBCU vibe.
Non-stop action. The bed is rocking and the crowd lit.
Chants echo. Drumbeat.
everybody's showing that school pride. Game like this?

Speaker 10 Yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

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Speaker 2 Mmm, yeah.

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Speaker 10 And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice-cold Coca-Cola? That's a winning combo.
No matter the sport, no matter the yard, everybody knows.

Speaker 8 Fan work is thirsty work.

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