Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to CU Football adding Travis and Shedeur to the Legacy Hall

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Speaker 16 The Colorado Buffalo Football have added Travis Hunt and Shadur Sanders' successes to their Legacy Hall.

Speaker 16 Colorado Buffalo Football, they tweeted two new legends, one historic hall. Welcome to Legacy Hall, Travis Hunt and Shadur Sanders.

Speaker 16 Many had issues with Shadur and Travis's jersey being retired by Coach Prime so quickly. Ocho, did Sanders and Hunters do enough to be immortalized so quickly?

Speaker 18 I would think so. There have been some other great, great college players.
I'm not sure if they, Brother Cordell Stewart, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 18 The running back.

Speaker 16 Well, Rajam Salam, who's no longer with us,

Speaker 16 he won the Heisman. They've had, look.

Speaker 16 I think it's Supreme Court. He was a Supreme Court justice.
Byron Wizzle White, I think it was a Supreme Court justice. He was the first great Colorado player.

Speaker 18 It was another running back. I'm missing a running back.
I think he wore number two.

Speaker 16 They had Eric B. Emmy.

Speaker 16 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 16 They had Darian Hagan.

Speaker 16 J.J. Flanagan came out with me.

Speaker 16 But they had really good football players. I mean, defensive players.
You know, Chad Brown. They had Alfred Williams.

Speaker 18 they had uh chris hudson ronnie branff they i mean they've had some they've had some really they've had some some good players they've had some good players you know michael westbrook came out of there ray caruth came out had it one year oh yeah yeah yeah yeah brooke came came out of there he and cordell was on the same team listen it's it's i mean prime prime saw saw and felt it was it was fitting you know to retire especially with what they did they they had two good seasons they turned that program around uh i i don't really see anything wrong with it especially based off what the team looked like before they got there.

Speaker 18 There should be nothing to be mad at.

Speaker 16 Well, look,

Speaker 16 you always gonna have some people because there are some people that says, Hey, there are some guys that came before them, and they probably should have, you know, not.

Speaker 16 I don't think the issue is the retirement of the jerseys.

Speaker 16 I think it's the time and how soon that it happened. So, like a lot of these, say, if it happened 20, and Tyr saying, hold on, so what? Rashad,

Speaker 16 you do Rashad's salon number, but look what it took for you to do it.

Speaker 16 You gave him flowers, but he ain't here to smell them.

Speaker 16 So, I think

Speaker 16 I could be wrong.

Speaker 16 I'm speaking as if I said, okay,

Speaker 16 this is how I'm thinking. I'm thinking out loud so you guys can hear me.
It's like, okay, I ain't got no problem. You want to retire, Travis, you want to try Shadur?

Speaker 16 Can we make it like 20 years?

Speaker 16 I'm different. Look, let me tell you: the University of South Carolina retired my brother's number.
He was still playing.

Speaker 16 So,

Speaker 16 who am I? Savannah State, they didn't retire my number. They just wouldn't give it out.
There were a lot of guys that came in and wanted to wear the number two.

Speaker 16 And I remember Mackie, who was the

Speaker 16 head athletic trainer, and Bill Davis said, I don't think you guys realize who actually wore that number.

Speaker 16 Yeah, have coach, you have a sharp war. Like

Speaker 16 a three-time first-team black college All-American, a Kodak All-American, three-time player of the year, offensive player of the year, Georgia state player of the year.

Speaker 16 There ain't a whole lot of black college players can say they were state player of the year.

Speaker 16 I beat University of Georgia players out, I beat Georgia Tech players out for that award.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Bill said, uh-uh.

Speaker 16 And so, so Coach Davis had passed, and

Speaker 16 the president got in touch with Bucket. Bucket put me in touch with him.
Says, hey,

Speaker 16 should nobody,

Speaker 16 after talking to everybody that was here and

Speaker 16 some of the faculty was still there,

Speaker 16 nah.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 he ain't come to bother you, not Jordan.

Speaker 16 And so, but honestly, Ocho, I think that has a lot to do with it. It's not that the numbers got retired.
There's like, is that it's like they bypassed the line

Speaker 16 so you know alfred williams a chad brown who was buckets award winner and things like that

Speaker 18 why wouldn't whoever was in a position of power why didn't they have him retired then

Speaker 18 bro don't start me lying i don't know i don't know that much about colorado i mean i i played in the state and i'm familiar with them but i i don't know if they felt that much about them and they were Great as they were during their time there, whoever was in place should have retired them, should have retired to Georgia if they saw fit.

Speaker 18 So, I'm not sure why people are complaining. Deion Sanders during his time having Shadur.

Speaker 18 I mean, I'm confused.

Speaker 18 It makes no sense.

Speaker 16 Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter might have been

Speaker 18 top-selling jersey when he was playing.

Speaker 16 And I'm not talking about Colorado.

Speaker 16 The Eagles head in a 2025 season looking to defend their Super Bowl title. And AJ Brown says he knows it won't come easy.
The process is still the same. I'm very blessed and fortunate to achieve

Speaker 16 the win, Super Bowl, as a team. But the process, the daily grind, stays the same.
Once you kind of look at it through that lens, you got to go back to work. That stuff is over with.

Speaker 16 Like I say, the Lombardi, she's not loyal. We got to do it again.
Try to win her over again.

Speaker 16 Ocho Eagles gonna repeat.

Speaker 18 I got a big chance, huh? But ain't lost nothing. You hear me? But them boys ain't lost nothing.
You heard what Jalen said. Jalen forgot about the Super Bowl that fast.
He forgot about it.

Speaker 18 I done moved on. Why you not wearing your ring?

Speaker 16 How many other people ever forgot about it, though?

Speaker 18 Yeah. That's only one.
Listen, listen.

Speaker 16 Sometimes that Super Bowl hangover is real. Guys celebrate a little bit too long.
You know what?

Speaker 18 The one person where it really matters ain't celebrating no more. The leader of your team, the one that got the sea on his chest, the one that's going to lead that offense.

Speaker 18 You got not only the quarterback thinking the way he's thinking, but you got the receiver thinking that way too.

Speaker 18 Everything resets itself. It's a new season.
We've had our

Speaker 16 fun,

Speaker 18 but I'm on to the next.

Speaker 18 I want it again.

Speaker 18 Like you said, that Lombardi trophy is not loyal.

Speaker 18 She's not yours. It's just your turn.

Speaker 18 Now, the process repeats itself again.

Speaker 18 Can I do it again?

Speaker 18 They have a good chance because they haven't lost anything.

Speaker 16 Yeah. And you people are already defending.
What are we defending? Can't nobody take that trophy? They make a whole new trophy.

Speaker 16 It ain't like the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 16 No, it's one. You get a whole, that's a different one, don't you?

Speaker 16 That's yours. That's the Eagles.
Now, somebody want another one. Now the Eagles can say, hey, we want another eight.
So we have three.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 like, I like the way they, I like the way they think, and they all and they understand in order to like to be really great, you got to go back to back

Speaker 16 because there's been too many teams that's winning one in a row,

Speaker 16 and I don't want to, I don't want to be dismissive, so don't take this the wrong way because it's an unbelievable accomplishment and a feat.

Speaker 16 But there ain't a whole lot of teams that's going back to back, right? There's a reason why,

Speaker 16 very different, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 16 So, I do, I like the approach that AJ has taken.

Speaker 16 I think the thing is what AJ has wanted to prove that, hey, man, every time y'all come out with these lists, I'm five, six, seven. Y'all will never have me at one.
Y'all never put me at two.

Speaker 16 Y'all never put me at three. I'm way on down the list.

Speaker 16 And then, you know, you hear people talk about, well, I don't even know. I'm not sure AJ Brown's a top 10 receiver.

Speaker 18 But you have to understand it's the offense that they run, huh? They don't throw the ball 100 times a game. The players,

Speaker 18 the players at the top of the list of those receiving, um, receiving stats

Speaker 16 they ain't got no Saquon in the backfield, that too.

Speaker 18 But even if Saquon was in the backfield, they still gonna throw the ball the way they do because that's just the way the offense is programmed.

Speaker 16 True, yeah, and that's not that's

Speaker 16 you play to your quarterback strengths, right? Not to your strength,

Speaker 16 yeah, your quarterback, your quarterback. That's not what he is.
He's not, he's not a guy to throw the ball 35, 40, 45 times a game.

Speaker 16 He's a guy. Okay, let's manage it.
25 is maxed. We're going to run it 35.
We're going to throw it 25. That's 60.

Speaker 16 Hey, we're going to have a couple of penalties to get called back and things of that nature. But

Speaker 16 y'all trying to get the man to try to impress y'all to show to show that he can throw for 350, 400 yards.

Speaker 18 And the funny thing about it, you know what else Jalen Hurst showed last year? Okay.

Speaker 18 Well, the main thing is the main thing, which is getting Saquon. But what did the Chiefs take away?

Speaker 18 And he shows you what he can do. I can put the ball in the air, too.

Speaker 18 I can put the ball in the air too, because that's what you're going to have to face this season.

Speaker 18 Sometimes they might stack the box, sometimes they might say, Jalen Hurst is going to have to beat us because 26 is not going to get it. 26 is not going to beat us today.

Speaker 16 And Jalen says, okay.

Speaker 16 I got if that's what it's going to take, that's what y'all want to see me beat y'all, I'll do it.

Speaker 16 Falcons wide receiver Drake London show no mercy to head coach Raheem Morris. Ocho, let's take a look at the courtesy clip for the Falcons, Joe Patrick.

Speaker 18 Hey, that was funny.

Speaker 18 Hey, come on, Coach Raheem. You on your heels.

Speaker 16 You got straight legs. Look at the leg.
How straight they is.

Speaker 18 Why are you on your heels, Coach? Come on, Coach, man. Tighten up, man.
You got to get up or you got got to get up. If you're going to get up there, you got to put some.

Speaker 16 He was the DB coach. He knows you can't get straight.
Look at the legs straight. Was them legs straight?

Speaker 18 Hey.

Speaker 18 Hey, well, that's funny. Hey, Drake.
Hey, Drake got right up in it, too. That's funny, man.

Speaker 16 Oh, man.

Speaker 16 Hey, and they at first of offense or defense, Ocho, you know good way. You don't let nobody put no two.

Speaker 18 I know. I know it's fun.
I know them boys playing

Speaker 18 like that, man.

Speaker 16 When they teach you how to drive, Ocho, what's the technique?

Speaker 18 10 to 2. 10 to 2.

Speaker 16 So if somebody put their hands in your breastplate, they're going to drop. Woo, woo.

Speaker 16 Drive your ass all over the field.

Speaker 16 That was funny.

Speaker 18 I'm excited. Listen, that's another team.
I'm excited to see what they look like. Now that they handed the keys over to Michael Pennick Jr.,

Speaker 18 that's going to be nice. That's going to be real nice.

Speaker 16 Over the weekend, Tyreek gave his take to reporters on how the Dolphins can solve their short yardage woes in the run game. Let's take a listen to what Tyreek had to say on how to solve the problem.

Speaker 15 Take Devon out on third, Don.

Speaker 14 What?

Speaker 16 Are you on him.

Speaker 16 That's my honest opinion.

Speaker 16 If it's third and short, he's not a power back. I'll be telling him that in the locker room, but he saw he a power back.
I love Devon, though, but if I'm being honest, like,

Speaker 16 that's why you got Jalen Wright. That's why you got Ali Gordon for those kind of situations.

Speaker 18 Well, he's absolutely right.

Speaker 16 Devon H.A.

Speaker 16 responded, that's how you feel, Cheetah? Yeah.

Speaker 18 Hey, listen, I was at the practice. I was at the practice, I forgot, was it maybe three, four days ago? Why they clowning?

Speaker 18 They clowning just like that in practice, you know, off to the sideline during special teams, you know, we talking and chopping it up. But that's all fun.
But there's a little truth to that. A-chain

Speaker 16 power.

Speaker 18 He's falling in person. Fast still.
But having come third down and shooting other situations makes no sense. That's why you have bigger backs for those type of situations.

Speaker 18 I mean, Tyreek didn't say anything wrong, even though it was in a playful manner.

Speaker 16 Right.

Speaker 16 Yeah. I agree.
Then this morning, this is what Mike McDaniel had to say.

Speaker 15 You should stand corrected.

Speaker 16 Good morning.

Speaker 16 False. Great morning.
Let's go.

Speaker 16 What makes us funny, brave? Because we're another day closer to death.

Speaker 18 Hey, Mike, funny, man.

Speaker 18 Mike is funny, man.

Speaker 16 So what you think? thinking?

Speaker 16 Trying to kill him.

Speaker 16 It was like.

Speaker 18 It was light. I think obviously the media will spin it, not knowing that Tyreek is playing.

Speaker 18 They asked him a question, and he told the question, which was his opinion. And it's honestly, it's the truth.
It's the absolute truth.

Speaker 18 Han is great. He's great.
First, second down. Now, if we're doing something, a little play action.
Out the backfield, screen on third down, then yeah.

Speaker 18 We have bigger backs that are built for those situations on third and short.

Speaker 18 You hand him the ball,

Speaker 16 but not in, you know, he's not an every down 31 back,

Speaker 18 absolutely not.

Speaker 16 Yeah, okay, Derrick Henry, yeah, getting the ball, Jonathan Taylor, give him the ball, Saquon, you can give him the ball, Josh Jacobs, give him the ball.

Speaker 16 I mean, yeah, physics.

Speaker 16 Last I checked,

Speaker 16 physics is still a thing.

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Speaker 16 The Colts released their first official depth chart today ahead of their Thursday preseason game against the Ravens. The quarterback selection depth chart reads as follows.

Speaker 16 Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson Sr.

Speaker 18 Oh, I like that.

Speaker 18 I like how they did that. They said or,

Speaker 16 right?

Speaker 18 But that thing up in the air,

Speaker 18 that thing,

Speaker 18 it is up in the air. It's up in the air.

Speaker 18 Oh, my goodness, man.

Speaker 18 I'm hoping Anthony Richardson is doing everything possible. I hope he's doing everything right.

Speaker 18 Going the extra mile, watching extra film, staying at the practice of the receivers, talking to your officer coordinator, talking to your head coach, doing everything you can

Speaker 18 to make sure you do your best to win that job.

Speaker 18 Yeah. I hope so.

Speaker 16 Sorry. What I don't get, though.

Speaker 16 Look, I believe you could have got the same.

Speaker 16 I believe you could have got the same results bringing a guy in there and and says, hey, I'm going to give you an equal opportunity to compete with this job and paid him $5 million.

Speaker 16 As opposed to bringing Daniel Jones in there and paying him $14 million because you got an expensive ass backup if you don't win this job.

Speaker 18 The agent worked this magic.

Speaker 18 The agent worked this magic. The agent

Speaker 18 got in that money. I think it was anywhere else.
He wouldn't have gotten no $14 million if it'd be no backup.

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 16 And plus, Ocho, I'm going to give you an opportunity to compete for a starting job. And a whole lot of places we're going to give him an opportunity to compete for a starting job.

Speaker 16 So this is, I mean, and I get it.

Speaker 16 I would have went there also. $14 million and a legitimate opportunity to compete for a job.

Speaker 18 Most definitely.

Speaker 16 Can't complain about that. But you're absolutely right.

Speaker 16 Anthony Richardson, he needs to stay healthy. Hopefully he's learned from some of the mistakes that he's made over his first two years.

Speaker 16 And through that process, maturity

Speaker 16 and just

Speaker 16 understanding what it takes to be a professional

Speaker 16 quarterback,

Speaker 16 hopefully he's able to turn the corner.

Speaker 18 You don't have a choice but to turn the corner.

Speaker 18 You know what a third year means, right?

Speaker 18 You're third league, that should make it a break a year. That's when teams make a decision.
You know what? Are you our future? Or are you not?

Speaker 18 Or do we need to keep looking for someone at that position?

Speaker 16 Well,

Speaker 16 third year, guess what they normally do with quarterbacks when they play well? They normally reward them after the third year.

Speaker 18 This is this year.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 16 So, yeah, look,

Speaker 16 he has a,

Speaker 16 you know,

Speaker 16 he's saying all the right things. You know, hey, I got to, you know, I got to eat a certain way.
I got to cut the candy out of your. I got to eat like a professional.

Speaker 16 I have to do things like a professional. I have to study.
I got to be the first one in. He's saying all the right things.

Speaker 16 Now it's a matter of doing

Speaker 16 all that lines up. You say this, you do this.

Speaker 16 And because they, look, you look at that team offensively,

Speaker 16 they got a good team, Ocho.

Speaker 16 They really do. When you look at their skilled position players, you look at their running back, they got a solid offensive line.

Speaker 16 They got a nice defensive line. They got a good day.

Speaker 18 They surely do.

Speaker 16 Yeah, they got some good players.

Speaker 16 But I just feel the last couple of years, they've been held back by the quarterback. There's no other way around it.

Speaker 16 And we're not taking no shots at him. We're not beating nobody down.

Speaker 16 It's just

Speaker 16 the facts that their quarterback play has been insufficient. Yeah.
Inadequate.

Speaker 16 Not up to par.

Speaker 16 And

Speaker 16 when you got those, you got Jonathan Taylor and you got Michael Pittman Jr., Pittman Jr., and you got Pierce, and you got all those guys. No, bro, and Downs, what's the other thing?

Speaker 18 Is it McMillan? No?

Speaker 16 No, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 16 They got Pierce,

Speaker 16 Pittman Jr., and they got another.

Speaker 18 If I'm not mistaken,

Speaker 18 I might be saying his last name.

Speaker 18 Yeah. Oh, A.D.
Mitchell. Mitchell.
That's what it is. I was talking about McMillan.
Yeah. Mitchell.
Hey, A.D. Mitchell.
Hey, Hey,

Speaker 16 Downs? Josh Downs. Josh Downs.
Yo,

Speaker 16 they got some skill position player.

Speaker 18 Add Mitchell going to be nice, boy.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Defensively, that front seven, they really good. Not a backhand.
Hey, y'all need to tighten up a little bit, but they got a nice front seven.

Speaker 16 The quarterback play need to match that. That's it.

Speaker 16 When you've accumulated that kind of talent, because guess what, Ocho?

Speaker 16 You like to think, and that's what teams do. They try to, hey, let's mortgage this thing.
We got to, you see what Houston, the Texans are doing.

Speaker 16 They're like, we got this quarterback on a rookie contract because that next contract, it's going to be kind of hard to be able to keep all these pieces around, said individual player.

Speaker 16 Even if he gives you a discount, he ain't going to give you no $100 million discount.

Speaker 18 Absolutely not.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 it's going to be incumbent on Anthony Richardson to do better, to play better.

Speaker 16 Look, he got drafted on potential, Ocho. That's what it was.
He was basically a 50% quarterback in college. He was a 50% quarterback in high school.
He's been a 50% quarterback.

Speaker 16 But the tools that he present... I mean, Ocho, he's 6'5 ⁇ , he's 245.
He ran 4-4.

Speaker 16 You throw the ball 80 yards, throw the ball 50 yards on one knee.

Speaker 16 All that side, but

Speaker 16 this is not the football Olympics.

Speaker 16 You need precision. You You need touch.
You need understanding. You need the ability to process information, decipher that information, and then the ball needs to be gone

Speaker 16 to the right player in the right position. Yeah.

Speaker 16 I don't think you are not breaking, we're not breaking news to anybody. You watch the game, you know his play needs to get better.
In order for them to be the type of team that the Colts want to be,

Speaker 16 he's got to vent, oh Joe, he's got to vastly improve. And we ain't talking about no marginal improvement.
We're talking about vastly improved.

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 16 He's got to.

Speaker 18 Especially,

Speaker 18 what's the

Speaker 16 and look, and it's going to be, look, it's going to be

Speaker 16 the owner.

Speaker 16 Jim Ursa passed away. His daughters are running the team now.
So, you know, they're going to have that. You know, they're going to be playing.

Speaker 16 I'm sure Shane Steichen, who's the head coach, is telling them, hey, we got to play for something. You know, Mr.
Ursa, this season is dedicated to him and X, Y, and Z, and rightfully so.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 Mr. Richardson, bro, you got to perform.

Speaker 16 They're paying you. Hey, they took you.

Speaker 16 They took a chance.

Speaker 16 And that's the only thing, Ojo, you see you in the bad. I want the sure thing.
It's things like this that gets you fired.

Speaker 16 Because the last thing I want to be doing is taking a quarterback three years ago, and I'm right back in the draft,

Speaker 16 taking a quarterback again.

Speaker 18 Damn.

Speaker 16 I suppose we're

Speaker 16 supposed to be trying to fill in, Ocho.

Speaker 16 I buy a house, Ocho. I ain't trying to buy a house in three years.
I'm just adding pieces. I'm adding some pool, some pool for it.
I'm adding some furniture by the pool.

Speaker 16 Maybe I get an end table.

Speaker 16 Something like that, Ocho. I ain't really trying a whole new house.

Speaker 18 That's a good one. That's a good analogy.
I like that.

Speaker 16 And so

Speaker 16 that's Anthony Richardson. He's gotten improved to the point that they just add pieces around him.

Speaker 16 You don't want to be

Speaker 16 the piece that gets replaced.

Speaker 18 It's not a good thing.

Speaker 16 Khabib says, I wish Connor McGregor would change himself after his historic UFC rivalry. The two haven't met since their fight in 2018.

Speaker 16 Khabib retired undefeated champion in 2020, but McGregor teased the idea of a rematch, a rematch in 2021.

Speaker 16 Connor has not fought since 2021 when she suffered a broken leg and a lost endorsement, Dustin Poirier. He is potentially on his way back to the UFC after re-enrolling in mandatory testing.

Speaker 16 Ocho,

Speaker 16 can you see Khabib and Connor ever fighting again?

Speaker 18 Khabib and Connor ever fought again, it would be one of the best gates pay-per-view ever had

Speaker 18 they would get paid tremendously

Speaker 18 it would be it would be it would be dope for one everybody

Speaker 16 everybody

Speaker 18 no matter what people may think oh he hadn't fought in three years oh he hadn't fought in five years it's khabib and it's connor mcgregor the greatest

Speaker 18 the greatest marketer of that sport the highest earning athlete of that sport

Speaker 16 everybody i agree everybody are you get you get no argument from me on that aspect i mean he's he's muhammad ali

Speaker 16 the way he can sell a fight and and is his mannerism quirks talk to him but ojo first of all khabib is not fighting again

Speaker 16 had his father lived i could see him still fighting

Speaker 16 But he didn't want to fight anymore once his father was gone because his father was his everything. So now he wants to train in Dagestan.
That's what he does.

Speaker 16 Second of all,

Speaker 16 Connor's made $200, $300 million.

Speaker 16 It takes a special type of someone to make that kind of money

Speaker 16 and say, you know what? I want to get punched and kicked in the face again today.

Speaker 16 I want to get kicked in my thigh today. I want to get punched in my head today.

Speaker 16 I want somebody to hammer fist me or spinning backfist me today.

Speaker 16 It takes a special type of person because, Ocho, he's not on welfare anymore.

Speaker 16 You know, you're not eating potted meat anymore.

Speaker 18 So you're saying you don't think he has the same drive and hunger he once had, huh?

Speaker 16 No, I don't.

Speaker 16 You watch him fight. He ain't want to fight.
When last time he wanted to fight?

Speaker 16 First of all,

Speaker 16 he hadn't fought since 2021, which is four years. The likelihood likelihood of him fighting by the end of the year is not happening.
So now we're going on five years. It's four years now.

Speaker 16 It's going to be on five years.

Speaker 16 You take your hat off to a guy like Floyd Mayweather. Made tons and tons of money, but he still wants to, he still trained like he was flat-ass broke.

Speaker 16 I appreciate athletes that once they become who we know them to be now,

Speaker 16 they still train as if they're starving, like they ain't got a dollar.

Speaker 16 You look at Jordan.

Speaker 16 You look at Kobe.

Speaker 16 Look at the guy. That's what you appreciate.
I mean, think about it. When you just, when you got a,

Speaker 16 you got chefs and you got everybody waiting on you hand and foot

Speaker 16 and you got a heated towel racks. And you got mink slippers when you step out of bed in the silk pajamas.

Speaker 16 Oh, Joe, it's different.

Speaker 18 I hear what you're saying, huh? But this is Connor McGregor.

Speaker 18 This is Conor McGregor. If he fights, if I'm not mistaken, I think Daniel White says he has a fight coming and, you know, nobody knows about it.
It's going to be a surprise. Who knows?

Speaker 18 Khabib hasn't fought in a while. You just never.

Speaker 16 Khabib ain't fight. That ain't how.

Speaker 18 You never know.

Speaker 18 You never know. Everyone always says they're retiring.

Speaker 16 Maybe I retire, but the love of the sport, all of them are still active all of them still train he ain't he ain't active training he made it clear he's like my dad when his dad left ojo

Speaker 16 some people like

Speaker 16 that's the reason they do certain things and then seems like when his dad left seemed like that light went out his desire he's like well i want to shift my focus i don't want to i want to train others

Speaker 16 I want to train others to do this.

Speaker 16 I don't see him. And Connor can't beat him.

Speaker 16 You know why?

Speaker 16 Because the guys that win at this thing and win and win and win, they evolve. Carnival's a striker.
He's still, when somebody gets him on the ground, he can't get up.

Speaker 16 They keep him there for the rest of the round.

Speaker 16 He hadn't evolved.

Speaker 16 Guys that, look at the guys that win, they evolve. You look at John Jones.
You look at St. Pierre.
You look at Anderson Silver. You look at Demetrius.
You look at Mighty Mouse. You look at the guys.

Speaker 16 you gotta evolve Ocho

Speaker 16 you gotta be able to wrestle you gotta be able to withstand it you gotta be able to withstand the takedown

Speaker 16 you gotta be able to submit

Speaker 16 it's fast it's levels to this Ocho I know I see you Titus

Speaker 16 and I just I I just don't I just don't see his tank and

Speaker 16 The deeper you go,

Speaker 16 the easier it is for you to handle him.

Speaker 16 People don't get you out of there in the first round, first and second round.

Speaker 16 Look at when people take him to the deep water, they get him to the third, they get him to the fourth, get tired, it's over.

Speaker 16 How many times have you seen him? How many times have you seen somebody take him down and he gets up?

Speaker 16 They keep him there for the rest of the time, they keep him there for the rest of the rest of the round.

Speaker 16 And people laying on you and punching is exhausting.

Speaker 16 I know.

Speaker 18 I done been in there.

Speaker 16 damn i love you buddy i love you

Speaker 16 i love you too

Speaker 16 so you want to see a rematch between connor and khabib

Speaker 18 knowing khabib knowing his style his background the way he conducts himself he's not coming he's not coming out but i think connor will come back and fight who he fights i'm not sure connor's he's put on some who's putting on some weight so i'm not sure who it would be i'm i'm i have no idea how long

Speaker 16 are you trying to say tell him to go to 170 no who

Speaker 18 man kind of look like he's about 170 right now have you seen have you seen i'm saying he fought at 45 55.

Speaker 16 are you telling him to go i'm just saying i don't know who he was

Speaker 16 oh okay

Speaker 16 for a second

Speaker 16 hold on you know who that is

Speaker 18 I just said he put on a lot of weight. I don't know who he would fight.

Speaker 18 It would have to make, it would have to make sense.

Speaker 16 that's now you now you're going up to us

Speaker 14 no man no no i'm just

Speaker 16 nah

Speaker 16 but uh uh uh

Speaker 16 what's the other guy that just he just fought uh the other day

Speaker 16 ilya temporarily nah he want that

Speaker 18 he don't want that you naming people that are that are hungry

Speaker 18 hungry yeah

Speaker 18 So there's a difference.

Speaker 18 I don't know.

Speaker 18 I don't know. That's a good one.

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Speaker 16 No, he don't want that. He don't want no problem.
Yo. Ocho.

Speaker 16 College football preseason coaches poll just dropped.

Speaker 16 UT, University of Texas, one. Ohio State, two.
Penn State, three.

Speaker 16 Georgia Dogs, four.

Speaker 16 Notre Dame, five. Clemson Tigers, six.
Oregon Ducks, seven.

Speaker 16 Alabama, eight. LSU, nine.

Speaker 16 Keynes ten

Speaker 16 any problem with the rankings

Speaker 18 absolutely not

Speaker 18 if if you had if you had to take a guess based on your

Speaker 18 based on

Speaker 18 the players coming back and the quarterbacks for each of these teams the top 10

Speaker 18 who you who you think who you think winning it all even even with the college playoffs who you got if you were to pick a team

Speaker 16 I like Georgia, but they don't got no quarterback because you know they stay loaded with talent.

Speaker 16 Question is, is Arch Manning who they say and believe he is?

Speaker 16 You know, Ohio State stay with talent. talent.
Penn State's always up there, but Penn State always loses to Ohio State.

Speaker 16 So if you make me guess right now,

Speaker 16 I probably lean towards

Speaker 16 Texas. To win

Speaker 16 Ohio State. I say Texas, Ohio State.

Speaker 18 Is it all Texas?

Speaker 16 If Archer Manning is what they say, I like it.

Speaker 18 I like it.

Speaker 16 Penn State, I just, I don't know what it is, but Penn State always wet the bed when it comes when the rubber needs to be the road.

Speaker 18 Big game. The big game.

Speaker 18 Who is Joe? Who's Georgia quarterback now now that Carson Beck is down here in Miami?

Speaker 16 I have no idea. I have no idea.

Speaker 16 Hmm.

Speaker 16 I guess it was the guy that came in when Carson Beck got hurt.

Speaker 16 If I had to guess. Gunner Stockton.
Gunnar Stockton.

Speaker 16 He was the guy. He was the guy that filled in when he got hurt, right?

Speaker 16 With that talent, I mean, Beck, with that talent, ain't no way they should have not won a national championship. Man,

Speaker 16 every year they look a offense line, D line, cornerbacks, wide receivers, NFL, NFL, NFL, NFL.

Speaker 16 Yes.

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 16 No, I don't think there's any surprises either, Ocho. One, two,

Speaker 16 three, four,

Speaker 16 four teams in the top ten. SEC, you got Ohio State, Penn State,

Speaker 16 Oregon.

Speaker 16 That's

Speaker 16 Big Ten.

Speaker 16 Then you got Notre Dame, Independent, and you got

Speaker 16 Clemson and Clemson and Miami and the ACC, right?

Speaker 18 Everybody keep changing and leaving conferences.

Speaker 16 Look,

Speaker 16 hell, pretty soon you might only have two conferences, the SEC and the Big Ten.

Speaker 16 Dabo Sweeney predicts Clemson will have a college football's first 16-0 playoff team after the playoff expansion.

Speaker 16 Dabbo said, I've had one undefeated team in 2018. We were the first 15-0 team in history of a major college football ever.
And I think we're going to be the first 16-0 team. It's a race to do that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it's all nice and good. Sound good.

Speaker 16 I just want to win the next championship. I don't care what my record is.

Speaker 16 Dabo.

Speaker 16 But that one thing, Dabo, get him ready to play now. Hey, you might not like some of the things that he says or how he conducts himself, but there ain't no denying he'll damn good coach.

Speaker 18 Until it's time to play them big boys.

Speaker 18 Until it's time to play the big boys.

Speaker 16 Well,

Speaker 16 he got that team to the

Speaker 16 playoffs last, and

Speaker 16 I didn't think he'd do that.

Speaker 16 But the ACC was down last year.

Speaker 16 They were down.

Speaker 16 But he says that's the race to 16-0.

Speaker 16 All right, Ocho, now it's time

Speaker 16 for our final segment of the evening. It's time for QA.

Speaker 18 Q and A.

Speaker 16 Q and A.

Speaker 16 McGregor, Aaron Jones said Conor McGregor had a bad substance abuse problem in 2021. He's the most exciting fighter in UFC history.
We all know we pay for it. So why not? McGregor versus anyone.

Speaker 16 I don't know what he had. I'm going to take your word.
You say that. I take your word for it.
I don't know. All I'm saying is, is that once he started stepping up in competition, he ain't beat nobody.

Speaker 16 When was the last time you like, man, Connor got a chance to win this fight? Once the fight started, when did you say that?

Speaker 16 Who's the last person he beat?

Speaker 16 Cowboy Cerrone?

Speaker 16 Yep, in 2020. Damn.

Speaker 18 Was it Cowboy Sharoni the last fight that he won?

Speaker 16 Yeah, in 2020. And Cowboy was done.

Speaker 18 Oh, that was that early. As soon as it started, I mean, soon as the fight started, it was over.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, Cowboy was done. He should have been out there riding his horses.

Speaker 16 The fight lasted 40 seconds.

Speaker 18 It was quick.

Speaker 16 Stop. Come on.

Speaker 18 It was quick.

Speaker 16 Lost to Poirier twice.

Speaker 18 Dem was some good fights.

Speaker 16 Last four fights, he's one and three.

Speaker 16 Hell,

Speaker 16 if he's not Conor McGregor, he ain't fighting nobody.

Speaker 16 He fighting like

Speaker 16 on a 10-card fight, he fight like fifth.

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 16 He's too big.

Speaker 16 No, but I'm just saying,

Speaker 16 because of his name. But,

Speaker 16 bro, he got, I mean,

Speaker 16 i mean and and and and and and khabib

Speaker 16 man they had to hey they had to call congress and and and and blow in his ear to get him to get up let it let him go

Speaker 18 they had to call who

Speaker 16 they had to call congress

Speaker 16 congress had to have a special session

Speaker 16 and passing

Speaker 16 and you know them joker be taking time off they had to have to reconvene congress That's a good one.

Speaker 18 That's a good one.

Speaker 16 Ain't no denying. He got dynamite in his left hand,

Speaker 16 but he's a striker.

Speaker 16 And them guys know that. So nobody's.
I mean, even Khabib was. Khabib.
Khabib still told the toe with him and dropped.

Speaker 16 Stood toe-to-toe, stood in the pocket with him and dropped.

Speaker 16 Now, Ocho. If somebody beats you at what you do.

Speaker 18 Man, listen, listen, it's MMA, huh? Huh? It's combat sports. Everybody got a punch's chance.

Speaker 16 Everybody got a punch.

Speaker 16 Or elbow chance.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 That's the thing. A head kick chance, yes.
Everybody has a chance.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 yeah, it's exciting.

Speaker 16 But I think the thing that people like the most

Speaker 16 ain't no ducking and dodging in UFC.

Speaker 16 Not on Dana White, Dana White's watch.

Speaker 18 You fight

Speaker 16 one versus two. Ain't no, oh, he's the number one fighter.
He got the belt, and he fighting number 10 because two through five don't want to fight. Oh, hell no.

Speaker 16 And Dana quick to tell her, oh, you don't like it? Go start your own league.

Speaker 16 Go start your own league.

Speaker 16 But Ocho, you know this.

Speaker 16 Taking off a contact sport for this this length of time and picking it right back up. It's difficult.

Speaker 18 It's difficult.

Speaker 16 Quentin Mays, Ocho in Florida, but don't fish. Huh?

Speaker 16 He said, You live in Florida, don't you?

Speaker 18 You just heard me tell everybody I spearfish. I don't even use no, I don't use no rod or no bait.
I just got my, I got, I got, got my, I use sugar cane.

Speaker 18 You listen to me, um, let me tell you how this is how I fish.

Speaker 18 I go down to the Bahamas, right? I got sugar cane. You know what sugar cane is, right, huh?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I know what sugar cane is, Ocho.

Speaker 18 Give my tools, knight that thing all the way down, get it real sharp.

Speaker 18 I free dive. I free dive and catch my fish.
I don't, I don't, listen, I, listen, I could have been in the movie Apocalypto. You saw Apocalypto?

Speaker 16 No, I'm waiting on the book. The book?

Speaker 16 Yeah, I don't want to read the book.

Speaker 18 Listen, boy, yeah, I'll show you. I gotta show you.
I gotta

Speaker 16 okay, I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 16 Uh, Myron Magnus, I would watch you two hunting hilarious content.

Speaker 18 Hey, I'm the type, I'm gonna catch up with my bare hands.

Speaker 16 I ain't gonna hug with Ocho. Ocho don't know nothing about no hunting.

Speaker 16 You, I don't even know if you've ever shot a gun.

Speaker 16 At the gun range? Huh? What?

Speaker 18 You know what?

Speaker 18 I'm from Liberty City, huh?

Speaker 18 So just to just, just, I'm going to just leave it. I'm going to just leave it like that.

Speaker 16 Yeah, let's go ahead on. The Aquarius here said, oh, y'all definitely do hunt or fish, collab, dear me for dinner.
Here's a YouTube guy here in Florida. He has an amazing backstory.

Speaker 18 Matter of fact, we can have it like when we go somewhere right we can't eat

Speaker 18 we got we can only eat what we catch

Speaker 18 we only eat what we

Speaker 16 what hold on

Speaker 16 what do you mean this we you don't speak french

Speaker 16 oh so we only eat

Speaker 16 so you only eat if you catch or kill something and i only eat if i catch or kill something because i know i already know who's gonna starve you gonna starve not me

Speaker 16 hey you gonna i guarantee you when they they show the footage and your ass 110 pounds, they like, I guess OJ.

Speaker 16 I guess OJ didn't catch a kill. Didn't catch a kill nothing.

Speaker 16 Hey.

Speaker 16 Well, yeah, we, we go, I'm trying to think. When they ain't got nobody to fish, I mean, I like, I go, I go

Speaker 18 spare fishing. You can swim?

Speaker 16 Ain't going no spare fishing. Yeah, I can swim.
I don't want to, I like being on top of the water. I don't want to see the fish until they break the surface.

Speaker 18 My bad, my bad, my bad.

Speaker 16 I go right. I got a.
I caught a fish so big the pitcher weighed six pounds.

Speaker 18 That's how it was when I caught that group with that Goliath.

Speaker 16 Damn.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I got it. I caught a big mouth bass.
He probably about.

Speaker 16 I don't know, but he left a hole in the water.

Speaker 18 How much you weigh?

Speaker 16 I pulled him out. He left a hole in the water.
So, how big is that?

Speaker 16 How big is that, Ocho? I don't know. How big is that?

Speaker 18 Hey.

Speaker 16 Ohio boy Kwan

Speaker 16 waited for that fishing episode. Tell you.

Speaker 16 Ocho, first of all,

Speaker 16 do you know how to bait a hook?

Speaker 16 Do you know how to bait a hook? Do you know how to set a hook?

Speaker 18 You take the hook, you take the worm, and you put the worm on the end of the hook and you throw it in the water. What are you talking about?

Speaker 16 but i thought but i

Speaker 16 lord have mercy but i thought i thought you was going to i thought you was fishing for bass i thought you don't you fishing with bass you act you acting like these gigs and you use crap and you be buzz bait

Speaker 18 telling them anything they see wiggling they finna bite

Speaker 18 you hear me anything these fish see in that water they finna bite they be hungry I'm telling you, y'all be naming all this exotic stuff and baits y'all be using. I don't need nothing but a worm.

Speaker 18 Give me some earthworms i guarantee i catch the same fish and guess what you're gonna catch you gonna catch small fish nah but hey fish are not intelligent this ain't finding nemo anything they see wiggling in the water they're going to bite

Speaker 16 you do realize in order for a fish to get of size it has to be intelligent right

Speaker 16 Anything that has to get of size, because big fish,

Speaker 18 small fish end up on your dinner table I'm telling you man listen see you get you giving fish too much goddamn credit

Speaker 16 oh Joe how long you think it let me ask you a question how long do you think it takes for a fish to get five ten fifteen pounds

Speaker 18 you think that happens in a year underneath down there where the people can't even reach

Speaker 16 But also, you know, when they small, they have to avoid being fish food. Yeah.

Speaker 16 So they smarter than you think, huh? Trust me, they're not. They not.

Speaker 18 Hey, take me out there fishing with you. I guarantee you, watch.

Speaker 18 I'm going to show you.

Speaker 16 All right.

Speaker 16 On the money says Shadura will be playing with the threes in the preseason with no practice reps. Talk about sabotaging.

Speaker 16 What you think? Yeah, right.

Speaker 18 Hey, one thing, one thing, one thing about it, baby.

Speaker 18 When the dealer hand you them cards, you can't say, you know what, I can't do nothing with these.

Speaker 18 You got to play the hand.

Speaker 16 Got to play the hand, you deal. Play the hand, you dealt.

Speaker 16 Brick boy YT said, let's say hypothetically, Shadur Stay's fourth quarterback gets cut traded.

Speaker 16 Where's your dream spot for him to go? I like the Rams and

Speaker 16 have him learn behind Stafford.

Speaker 18 I ain't even, I ain't even thinking about it. I ain't even thinking about that hypothetical.

Speaker 18 He's gonna be a Brown.

Speaker 16 Dream Spot

Speaker 18 Over there with Jerry?

Speaker 16 No, hell no. He don't need to be in that circle.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I mean, I like, I like,

Speaker 16 I like

Speaker 16 the Rams, the Lions. Oh,

Speaker 18 Lions,

Speaker 18 that's a good one.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I thought Oakland would be a good spot.

Speaker 18 But Geno.

Speaker 16 But they just signed Geno for a couple of years. Hell, they just signed Jerry Goff.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Dolphins are tour.

Speaker 16 Hell, they took, they got 50 quarterbacks.

Speaker 18 You know why they got 50 quarters?

Speaker 16 Remember,

Speaker 16 we thought the Saints were going to take him the first round, the second round.

Speaker 16 But they seem to

Speaker 16 like Spencer Rattler and they talked Sko. I think that's how you say his last name.
I think they drafted him. Shuck.
Shuck.

Speaker 16 Shuck. Shuck.

Speaker 16 They drafted him. So

Speaker 16 Ocha done gave up trying to figure it out. SA Spurs fans for life.
Hey, Uncan Ocho. Shout out

Speaker 16 from Baltimore to you. Do you think T.O.
and John L. Way have even better careers if they ended up playing for Baltimore? No.

Speaker 16 John did not want to play for Baltimore. He knew they were moving.

Speaker 16 They left in the middle of the night in 1984,

Speaker 16 packed up the Mayflower vans and headed to Indy.

Speaker 16 T.O. went to the right situation.

Speaker 16 Cow Bowler was, what did, come on. Chris Redmond, Kyle Bowler, and I played with Red Dog.
Come on, man

Speaker 16 An opportunity to play with Donovan and then he got an opportunity to play with Romo

Speaker 16 No, he went to the right situation. John went to the right situation.
He got stability.

Speaker 16 I think Kaiser was his first

Speaker 16 Phillips.

Speaker 16 Maybe Kaiser was the first owner, and then he had Mr. B for the next 15 years.
Yeah. It went to the right.

Speaker 16 You know, the man upstairs don't make no mistakes, OJo.

Speaker 18 Never does. He doesn't.

Speaker 16 Rakovic, with all the gambling incidents going on

Speaker 16 in the media, what's y'all take on that? Do y'all have any advice for men out there struggling with gambling?

Speaker 18 That's you, Unc. You know my black ass don't.
Excuse me. I'm sorry.
You know my don't gamble.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I mean

Speaker 16 I don't get if you're making 20, 30 million dollars

Speaker 16 and you know you're not supposed to be betting on your sport. That's what I don't understand, Ocho.

Speaker 16 Look,

Speaker 16 guys want to go play some poker, or they want to play some blackjack, or they want to play Baccarat, or they want to play Crabs or Roulette. Okay.

Speaker 16 But on your sport,

Speaker 16 when you know that's taboo and

Speaker 16 you know you can't do it, and they're going to see these anomalies, they watching. How's somebody going to bet 25 unders on one player?

Speaker 16 And you don't think people are going to think that's going to be suspicious?

Speaker 16 JJ Carver,

Speaker 16 I'm a forward for a football. I look forward to the

Speaker 16 football. I don't know what Azure here.
I'm looking forward to football season.

Speaker 16 But as a safe fan, not really. Any advice to get through the season would be great.
Love y'all. Nightcap crew and mods.

Speaker 16 Thanks, man.

Speaker 16 Without a quarterback, Ocho, what are we doing?

Speaker 16 Absolutely nothing. What are we doing, Ocho?

Speaker 18 Absolutely nothing. Hoping for the best?

Speaker 18 Hoping for the best.

Speaker 16 Y'all got your work cut out for

Speaker 16 you.

Speaker 16 Kevin Norwood Jr., my question is: if you were a GM, who would you be your first pick wide receiver? Justin Jefferson, Tank Dale, Ty Hill,

Speaker 16 or Sterling Sharp?

Speaker 16 Well, I think it comes down to Jetta, Reek, and my brother.

Speaker 16 Very, very different receivers. Very, I mean, bro,

Speaker 16 you got, I mean, Ojo, you got, I'm talking about Jetta is very different to Tyreek. Tyreek is very different from my brother.
My brother is very different from Jetta.

Speaker 16 All of them are different than Tank. Now, Tank is injured.
So he probably, maybe Nico Collins would have been a better pick.

Speaker 16 Probably going to buy who was my quarterback.

Speaker 16 But I'm taking my brother.

Speaker 16 Triple Crown, three-time first-team all-pro, led the league and receiving, back-to-back hunt to catch seasons.

Speaker 16 Look, you're looking for speed?

Speaker 16 I mean,

Speaker 16 you only got got two. I mean, what?

Speaker 16 When it comes to speed, deep threats,

Speaker 16 you got Moss,

Speaker 16 you got Reek,

Speaker 16 you got Deshaun, and you got Bully Bob Hayes.

Speaker 16 Bully Bob Hayes was the first deep threat. Bully Bob Hayes

Speaker 16 made the teams go to the zone defense. Because before Bob Hayes, everybody played man.

Speaker 16 But you got the fastest man in the world, literally, the fastest man in the world, and you try to play man coverage. How you think that worked out? Good.

Speaker 16 No,

Speaker 16 exactly.

Speaker 16 Nehemiah JP, per NFL rules, can negotiate directly with a player.

Speaker 16 If not, they can fine Jerry for admitting he tried to negotiate with him.

Speaker 16 The thing is, like I said, if Micah says I'm representing myself, Ocho, A.

Speaker 16 Give him an example, Ocho. We look.

Speaker 16 I said, Ocho, such and such, such Hey, Ocho say, talk to Doug. Okay.
Ain't no sense in me trying to negotiate with Ocho. Ocho says he has representation.
That's who he wants us to talk to. Boom.

Speaker 16 No problem.

Speaker 16 If Ocho said, well, okay, okay,

Speaker 16 what you talking about? What you thinking?

Speaker 16 Well, and then Doug come and say, man, why don't you? I said, hey, Ocho asked me what was I thinking? I told him what I was thinking. He said, okay, done deal.

Speaker 16 Jerry knows Micah has representation. He knows his agent is David Bugoletta.
He knew that. Just like he knows Dak agent.
So if that's the, why don't you, why did you not like working with agents?

Speaker 16 Why don't you work directly with Dak?

Speaker 18 You know, Dak don't play that now.

Speaker 16 Dak?

Speaker 16 Did you work directly with CD? Who's CD's agent?

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 Zach Martin, me and Zach Martin. Zach Martin is in year 10, year 11.

Speaker 16 Oh, he got CAA. Okay.

Speaker 16 So why would you want? Why would you want to work? Why would you not work directly with that?

Speaker 16 That's the one you wanted to work directly with and try to get a sweetheart deal.

Speaker 16 Oh,

Speaker 18 no, he don't play that.

Speaker 16 Because he ain't gonna let you pull no fast with no bony. Gotcha.

Speaker 16 These babies said, oh, when Spank gave you his gold jacket, what were your thoughts, feelings, and emotion at that moment? Love you guys. Ocho, you need to pay ASAP.

Speaker 16 I didn't.

Speaker 16 I'm thumbed and thinking, I'm like, bro, where are you going with this? Because first of all, I was surprised that he called me up.

Speaker 16 Okay, he got two minutes want me to come up there and stand beside him.

Speaker 16 I didn't know the story. I mean, everybody, I mean, for the most part, a lot of people knew that my first Super Bowl ring I gave to him.

Speaker 16 Because as I told him, I told and I told NBC at the time I was doing it, I said, We win this game, I'm gonna give him the Super Bowl ring. And it,

Speaker 16 because it would mean more for me to give it to him for me to wear it

Speaker 16 because I'm not here without him,

Speaker 16 and I'm never, I'm never gonna

Speaker 16 feel wearing that ring

Speaker 16 what I feel for him.

Speaker 16 No-brainer for me.

Speaker 16 And so

Speaker 16 when he said, well, I don't really have anything of athletic value.

Speaker 16 I ain't got no, you know, I ain't got no Super Bowl rings. I ain't got no this.
You know, I ain't got no, you know,

Speaker 16 one-on-one

Speaker 16 playing card.

Speaker 16 Only thing I got of value is this gold jacket.

Speaker 16 And I want you to have it.

Speaker 16 What do you say? What can you say?

Speaker 16 Like, wow.

Speaker 16 He just got his cloak to go into football heaven.

Speaker 16 And everything that he's ever done,

Speaker 16 sports-wise, he did it for me

Speaker 16 because he wanted me to look up to him

Speaker 16 and not look outside for a hero or for a role model

Speaker 16 and the only thing that i have a value right now

Speaker 16 or will ever have a value

Speaker 16 is a gold jacket

Speaker 16 take it

Speaker 16 Yeah, now pay me my money. Who me?

Speaker 16 OG Thanos said, what's up, Uncle Joe? Which quarterback has the most pressure to have a good season this year?

Speaker 16 Oh, there are a bunch of them,

Speaker 16 Dak,

Speaker 16 Anthony Richardson,

Speaker 16 Tua.

Speaker 18 Trying to think: pressure, pressure, pressure.

Speaker 16 They got, first of all,

Speaker 16 the big

Speaker 16 three:

Speaker 16 Joe Burrow, Lamar,

Speaker 16 josh allen

Speaker 16 somebody got to be in the super one of those one of those three got to be back

Speaker 18 there's no pressure on them because if they don't have a great listen they're going to have a good season but if if they don't make a super bowl it's not like oh they on the hot seat nothing like that so there's there's really

Speaker 16 no not gonna be on the hot seat but we are like okay well how much longer we got to wait

Speaker 16 You got, I mean, because guess what? All three of those guys, we believe all three of those guys are going to be in what, what, Ocho? The MVP conversation.

Speaker 18 Absolutely.

Speaker 16 Lamar is one, two.

Speaker 16 Some believe, I know you believe, I believe that Lamar should have three.

Speaker 16 Now,

Speaker 16 can you imagine the pressure one feels with three MVPs in no Super Bowls?

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Not even gotten to one. At least Aaron, before he started winning, all those, he got to a Super Bowl.
He won it.

Speaker 16 As he won more MVPs, he didn't get back, but he won it.

Speaker 16 So you just need one. And

Speaker 16 just one.

Speaker 16 But I think Dak,

Speaker 16 who else do we mention? We said Dak. Who else do we mention, Ocho?

Speaker 18 I said Tua.

Speaker 16 Pray.

Speaker 16 Tua, yeah.

Speaker 18 Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson.
He got, and

Speaker 18 ain't got to have it, boy.

Speaker 16 I think Caleb Williams is under some pressure, too.

Speaker 16 He got Ben Johnson.

Speaker 16 They don't care. You're the number one pick in the draft, Ocho.

Speaker 16 You saw what C.J. Stroud did in year one?

Speaker 16 You saw what Jaden Daniels did in year one.

Speaker 16 And he got Ben Johnson.

Speaker 16 You saw what Ben Johnson did with Jerry Goff?

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 16 And you see the weapons that they gave him.

Speaker 16 DJ Moore,

Speaker 16 what's the receiver out of Washington?

Speaker 16 Got him two tight ends. Roman Dunze

Speaker 16 got him cold committee. Got him two tight ends.

Speaker 16 Rebuilt the offensive line.

Speaker 16 He got to shine, Ocho. He got to shine.

Speaker 16 That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank Patrick Queen for joining us.
Talk things Ravens, Steelers, and gave us a little insight on fishing.

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