Club Shay Shay - Daniel Cormier Part 1

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Speaker 24 Have we ever seen someone in that sport that possessed the arsenal that he had? No. He's by far the most talented person that we've had in mixed martial arts.

Speaker 24 When he beat me, I was that was the best you'd ever been. I'd never been better.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, you're three years apart, and now y'all move up and y'all fight heavyweight.

Speaker 24 Nah, he wasn't beating it heavy.

Speaker 24 All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle paid the price.

Speaker 31 Want a slice.

Speaker 24 Got to roll the dice. That's why.
All my life. I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 24 Sacrifice, hustle paid the price.

Speaker 31 Want a slice, got to roll a dice. That's why, all my life, I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 24 Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp.
I'm also the proprietor of Club Sheche.

Speaker 24 Stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the most accomplished and decorated fighters in MMA history.

Speaker 24 He's one of the great mixed martial artists of all times, a warrior in the octagon, a champion in every MMA organization he's competed in, a former UFC light heavyweight champion and heavyweight champion.

Speaker 24 He's the second fighter in UFC history to hold titles in two weight classes simultaneously. He's the first fighter in the UFC to win and defend both the light heavyweight and the heavyweight belts.

Speaker 24 A UFC Hall of Famer, a two-time Olympian, three-time Louisiana State champion, an all-American freestyle wrestler, color commentator, world-class talent, a master on the microphone, a father, a husband, a legend.

Speaker 24 DC could stand for double champion, but in this case, it stands for for Daniel Cormier. My man.

Speaker 24 Say it again.

Speaker 24 When you say it all, when you say it all, when you say it all, man, I'm going to tell you, when you say it all, it's something. Because

Speaker 24 I grew up in Louisiana. I never could have imagined this life.
I swear to God, I never could have imagined. And to hear all that, man,

Speaker 24 that was a ride. Man, thanks for stopping by Club Shea Shea.
Thank you, Shea Shay. Man, you know, when you stop by Club Shea Shea, you know you got to have a taste of them.

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah, that Shea Balapouche. Yeah, man.

Speaker 24 Award-winning.

Speaker 24 winning. It's good.
It's great. Let me see.
You know anything about cognac? No, I don't, but let me, I'm going to try that.

Speaker 24 Oh, it's smells strong, too.

Speaker 24 See? Swish it around.

Speaker 24 Well, that's pretty good. It don't even really.

Speaker 24 Yeah, see, it ain't got that bike.

Speaker 24 I was expecting a little bit. So my daddy drank like something comfort and stuff.
Like, yeah.

Speaker 24 Set your hair on fire. Yeah, no, no, no, no.
No, it's nice and smooth. Yeah, it's easy.
See? We got to get you something. We got to get something for your old man.
That's actually really good.

Speaker 24 Yeah, see? That's real good. Let me ask you, when you hear what I read off,

Speaker 24 and you and I were talking before we started this interview, and you was talking about growing up in Louisiana and the expectations of, you know, you're in media.

Speaker 24 Did you expect any of this to happen? This would be your life at your age now? No, Shannon, I was a kid that I didn't do, I grew up in Lafayette, right? So it's not the best place. Right.

Speaker 24 But I followed everybody so i did everything they did so whenever whenever i was in high school my freshman year i was a kid that failed off the wrestling team right i was a kid that had to go to summer school to get to 10th grade i did all kinds of bad stuff until i started getting better at wrestling right and then i realized like wait this wrestling can take me somewhere right but even after that i never thought that I would have jobs doing what I do with the volume,

Speaker 24 working at ESPN, working at Fox that I used to. A lot of similarities, right? But like having those opportunities, I never could have imagined doing that because I didn't even go.

Speaker 24 I didn't go to college for media. Grandmas did.
You went to college to play sports. And normally the best people that are in media didn't go to college for media.
Yes.

Speaker 24 Especially when they do what we do. Now, obviously, you know, the play-by-play and things of that, you know, obviously, but to sit and talk about a sport,

Speaker 24 it really helps if you played that sport and you can speak through personal experience. Absolutely.
And that's what people want to hear.

Speaker 24 The people actually want to hear when you are talking as the guy that played the tight end, the guy that's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, when you're talking about football. Yes.

Speaker 24 Because they know, well, he's been in the trenches. And that's what I do when it comes to fighting.
I can explain something in real fine detail. Yes.

Speaker 24 Because there's no position I haven't experienced, the good and the bad, in my career.

Speaker 24 I'm going to take it from this approach.

Speaker 24 You got a late start to

Speaker 24 MMA. Yep.

Speaker 24 And getting a late start, that didn't deter you because now I'm looking at you, what you were able to accomplish later in your career.

Speaker 24 I mean, how is that possible, DC? So I walked into that gym at 30 and a half. I turned 31 in March.
I only fought for 10 years. And at 41, I should have been done.
But the money had got too good.

Speaker 24 That's the way you know money gets good at the end. The money gets good at the end whenever you aren't supposed to be doing it anymore.
But I kept fighting.

Speaker 24 But I walked into that gym, but because of my background in wrestling, it gave me like a massive head start. So I went out to San Jose.

Speaker 24 I went to multiple gyms recruiting. They were trying to get me to train, but I walked in the AKA, bro.
I saw Cain Velasquez. I was like, yo, that dude is who I want to fight like.

Speaker 24 And if I can train alongside him, it will lead me to being one of the best. But at 31 years old, I was essentially making my MMA debut.
Because normally guys that are really, really good, they start.

Speaker 24 Obviously, you got a wrestling background.

Speaker 24 But they've been doing this for an extremely long period of of terror of time yeah and you just basically i mean 30 years old with a wrestling background but you got to be multifaceted to be really good in the ufc the more rounded you are the better you are yes if you're one-dimensional you're not gonna have you're gonna have a very short shelf life in that sport yep not today you can't you you you definitely cannot be one-dimensional today right back in the day you remember royce gracie and those guys i do they would walk with the the jiu-jitsu chain you had the jiu-jitsu guy and you had the big boxer right one brother went out there with one glove on his name was art jefferson he went out there with one glove Can't do that.

Speaker 24 The first two fights that were in Denver, Colorado, I saw him, UFC. Really? Yeah.
You went. I went.
See, that's crazy.

Speaker 24 I was telling Dana the story. You actually went to watch it? I went to watch it.
Because,

Speaker 24 okay, and listening to it, what it's going to be. Well, we're going to see if a karate guy could beat this guy.
And a big guy could beat that guy. And I'm like, okay, so what about the classic?

Speaker 24 They're like, ain't no way classic. I was like, hold on.
So a guy 125 could literally be fighting somebody 275? Like, yeah. I'm like, I don't think this is going to end well.

Speaker 24 But that's what what drew you in, right? And then Royce wins, and he's 165 once you're in. Yes, I'm looking at this little dude.
I said, You about to get the brace beat off you.

Speaker 24 And he got his, he got his you, he got his suit on.

Speaker 24 Yeah, and I'm like, what's he doing? He's like, literally trying to lay down. I'm like, I don't think this, because I, because I ain't never heard about no

Speaker 24 TC, I don't know nothing about no Virginian Jitsu. And he's like laying down.
I'm like, what you doing?

Speaker 24 You go down there, you in trouble. Yeah, exactly.
If you go down there with him, they were in trouble. But

Speaker 24 I had, so girl, so my manager, still to this day, Dwayne, he calls me when I graduate college at Oklahoma State. He goes, hey, there's a sport.
This is 2001.

Speaker 24 He goes, there's a sport that's going to take over. It's going to be MMA.
It's fighting. Have you ever been in a fight like in your life?

Speaker 24 I started laughing at him. I said, bro, I grew up in Louisiana.
I have to fight all the time.

Speaker 24 And I think that...

Speaker 24 That even though even though Shannon, like, we don't, I'm pretty sure you grew up down in the South Pole and you had to fight at times. Even though we aren't doing it correctly.
Right.

Speaker 24 Somebody's trying to punch you. Yes.
You're trying to punch somebody. So then when somebody taught me to punch, like, I'm, okay, this is how it's done the right way.
Right, correct.

Speaker 24 So it allowed for me to

Speaker 24 adjust to it much faster. And I wasn't scared.
Right. Like, that's the biggest thing with wrestlers, especially being scared to get hit.
You cannot be scared. Right.

Speaker 24 How is it that we're starting to see more athletes, D.C., dominate in their 40s? You saw a guy like yourself. You see a LeBron James.
You saw a Tom Brady. You see guys that are playing at extremes.

Speaker 24 Because normally, guys, they're gone. By the time they get to the mid-30s, they're gone, especially in your sport, even in football.
Guys ain't playing that long.

Speaker 24 And every once in a while, you'll get a Kareem Abdul Jabbar. That'll be, but he's a big guy and he doesn't need to get up and down the court.
Yep.

Speaker 24 But to see Tom play until he's what, 43, 44 years of age, yourself fighting. At 41, yeah.
That's a whole LeBron still being able to be play at the level he's playing at.

Speaker 24 Why do you think guys have been able to

Speaker 24 do things to this this level

Speaker 24 much longer? Because of the access to recovery. I think athletes are smarter today.
Those guys are very young. So when we're younger, like you're in your 20s, you're in your 30s, you're a Superman.

Speaker 24 You go to sleep, you jump out of bed, you go to train every day. But then as you start to get older, the body starts to ache a little more.
But those guys in their 20s and 30s are not...

Speaker 24 They're not rejecting the body anymore. They're saying at 25, while I may feel great, I know there are like problems underlying for me that I need to address, address, make sure that I'm straight.

Speaker 24 And I think that's why they're playing so long. But they're playing at an elite level.
I remember when Peyton Manning went to Denver,

Speaker 24 he said it himself, he goes, I can't throw the ball down the field. He goes, but I will manage a game.
Every now and again, I'll give you one that goes a little deeper.

Speaker 24 He goes, but I'm managing the game. Because at the point, we were still kind of living in that world where you just age and then you age out.
And even Aaron Rodgers right now, right?

Speaker 24 We'll see what happens this year, but last year he just didn't look like the same guy and caught up to him quick. Right.

Speaker 24 Going into a fight, because like you said, when you're young, you feel invincible. You feel you can't lose.
As you start to get age, you're like, I'm not as quick as I once was.

Speaker 24 My reaction time is not the same.

Speaker 24 My defense mechanisms are not the same. My spidey senses don't tingle like they once did.
I'm not processing information. You know what I'm saying? The computer is

Speaker 24 working.

Speaker 24 You're back on AOL.

Speaker 24 You're on dial up.

Speaker 24 You're exactly right. But DC, I mean, for you to do, I mean, you went in there and you did what you did to Steve Pig.
Like,

Speaker 24 what was your thought process? Did you like, man, I'm getting older. Did you do any? Did you train any different? So at 39, I didn't.
So I didn't at 39. This is the craziest shit ever.
So 39 starts.

Speaker 24 Yes. Right.
In 2017, I lost to John Jones and Anaheim. Right.
So they called me, hey, you want to fight another fight? It was like September, October. I said, no.
I said,

Speaker 24 this was the first time I'd been knocked out in my life. Like in my life, Shannon.
Like,

Speaker 24 in football, I would hit people and you kind of buzz. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was knocked out. Bell rung.
It's hard.

Speaker 24 And all it was was my bell just got rung. Right.
You go back to playing. I got knocked out, man.
Like, he kicked me in the head and he hit me with a whole bunch of follow-up shots and it put me out.

Speaker 24 Like, hey, I remember, I can tell you right now, this was in 2017.

Speaker 24 From the moment that fight finished, all the way back to the ambulance, I still can't recall that time. Really? I can't make myself remember what happened.
I try.

Speaker 24 I try now, even at night, to go, man, what happened in that 10-15 minutes? Dude, there's a video of me crying with Joe Rogan.

Speaker 24 He's interviewing me after the fight, but I'm so concussed that I'm crying in the octane because I just lost the biggest fight of my career.

Speaker 24 They called me to fight again, and I said, no, I said, I'm going to let my brain rest until the end of next year or the beginning of next year. I fight in January.
At 39, I feel great.

Speaker 24 I win the belt back. I beat Steep in July, and I'm fine.
I feel no age because of the late start, right? I'm only doing this seven years now. Right.
Eight years.

Speaker 24 Because of the late start, at 39, I become the double champ. I defend the belt in Madison Square Gardens.
Everything is great.

Speaker 24 But on that morning of that fight with Derek Lewis, I get up to do my shakeout. I go run, hit my pads.
As I'm on the treadmill, I'm like, God, I'm like, I don't feel great this morning.

Speaker 24 like I'm kind of like achy right Shannon I'm running I sneeze bro when I sneeze through my back out

Speaker 24 through my back out I sneeze so violently that's like a baseball player this minute yes I sneeze so violently my back went out so now I'm stuck hunched over mind you at 1 a.m.

Speaker 24 tonight I've got to walk to that octagon and fight Derek Lewis can't lose a main event on the day so then they come in there they massage me they give me a stem cell treatment they get me up in the bottom around five o'clock in the afternoon i go fight one month after that i'm in the gym training i kick kane's leg he checks it tingle goes all the way up my leg the the the the the disc sits on my sciatica yeah now i'm paralyzed almost and from that moment on i just was not the same guy it took one incident a sneeze essentially ended my career because i never want to fight again right steep beat me the next time then he beat me the following time it's like i never it was that one thing so i think these guys while they're playing longer have an ability to go longer, but it'll be one thing.

Speaker 24 LeBron? Yes. If LeBron gets hurt, it's not going to be like when he got hurt in his 20s.
He's really going to struggle

Speaker 24 to bounce back. Because when you're younger, the ability to bounce back.
I mean, an injury that would keep you down a day, all of a sudden is two, three days.

Speaker 24 Or maybe it's a week. And an injury that would keep you down a week when you're younger, it's keeping you down two weeks or maybe even a month.
The body just doesn't recover. With the football, like,

Speaker 24 how old were you when you retired? I was,

Speaker 24 I was going to turn 36 in two months. So you were still relatively young.

Speaker 24 In today's game, though, you'd have played three more years. Yes.
Right? But how did the

Speaker 24 in training camp? We had, you know, we was outside twice a day. We hitting.
We have some days we have two-a-day practices. They don't even hit no more.
No. No, no, no.
They don't hit no more. We hit.

Speaker 24 They were for real, real hit. And we hit for real, real in college, and we hit for real, real in high school.

Speaker 24 So, but I think it got our bodies used to taking that. We didn't have these little ticky-tack injuries that these guys get now.
But do you think that because you didn't have the wear and tear

Speaker 24 that, you know, say if you had gotten to this like in your 20, like I think John Jones started, he'd be like 20. John Jones was John Jones started at like 19.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 Do you think because you didn't have the wear and tear, because like you said, even though you got, I mean, you had a short chef life, really, you don't have like eight years. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 I fought for eight years.

Speaker 24 I was the champ. I was in the championship for eight years.
I fought for the belt those last two years. That didn't mean I was necessarily in the picture, right?

Speaker 24 I was fighting for the belt because I have the name value. I was fighting for the belt and anon because I was the champion.
I had to defend. Sure, I was beating Stipe, but man, by that

Speaker 24 old monkey jump on my back in the third round,

Speaker 24 I was beating the shit out of him. By the third round, the monkey jumped on my back.
I was like, yo, I am exhausted. I'd never felt it before.
Wow. Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 24 It is the scariest thing. that you could ever imagine in your life.
I've been in some hairy situations. Inside that octagon,

Speaker 24 not having the energy to fight,

Speaker 24 because that dude wants to kill you. Yes.

Speaker 24 If that referee don't take him off of you, he's going to keep beating you up.

Speaker 24 That's how you got to approach fighting.

Speaker 24 So it's like, that's a scary, when you're like, you get off that stool and you're like, oh my God, I don't know how, have I got 10 more minutes?

Speaker 24 Scary. I forget who it was, but I remember there was some lady that she like woke.
She's like, I was in the ring and I realized I didn't want to fight anymore. Oh

Speaker 24 I was like you probably want to like in training

Speaker 24 Or maybe even the night before in the back. Yes, but you don't in the ring and she's I forget her name

Speaker 24 She fought. Yes, she got knocked out didn't she she lost

Speaker 24 she lost

Speaker 24 Misha Tate. Yep Misha Tate.
Yep. I remember her saying that and I was like Boy, that's an awful time to find out you don't want to do something when you're actually doing it.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 There's some questions before. Yeah.
Every time. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Every time you, there's some questions.

Speaker 24 I used to watch, I used to watch Floyd and all them dudes like in the ring before, when they're introducing them. I'm like, how do they do that?

Speaker 24 How do they find calm in this with everything going on around them? Right. With what's at stake? Yeah.
And I was like, man, I couldn't do it. But then I would walk to that octagon.

Speaker 24 It's the most, like, you know, like, you know, right? And that's why people, that's what people don't understand.

Speaker 24 When you hit that tunnel for a Super Bowl or you hit that tunnel for a big game, your whole body's on fire. Yeah, yeah, you got goosebumps.
You got goosebumps everywhere.

Speaker 24 What's going through your mind? Shannon, I'm in the back every time.

Speaker 24 And I would go in, same routine. I'm from Louisa Superstitious.
I go in the back and I go to sleep. People would look at me like, how can you sleep?

Speaker 24 Knowing that in three hours you're going to go fight for a world championship. Right.
But I knew that my preparation I'd left, I left no stone unturned. I'd done everything.
So the result was done.

Speaker 24 Either I was going to win or I was going to lose because it wasn't going to be something that you did in that. That I did wrong.
And in that three hours,

Speaker 24 how do you settle yourself? I said, because I'm ready. But

Speaker 24 I would be in the back. I'd get up.
I'd do my warm-up. Then they would tell me, all right, DC, you walk in a minute.
And you start hearing music.

Speaker 24 All right, DC, we're walking in 5-4-3-2-1. And it's just nerves.
I'm like, How many times should I have gone left? I went to college, Shannon. How did I end up here fighting?

Speaker 24 Man, I hit that curtain. Thousands of people, 18,000.
The UFC does an amazing job of walking you through the crowd.

Speaker 24 And the energy is just electric and they're reaching for you and they want to PC you.

Speaker 24 And I couldn't even handle it. I would run to the octagon because it's just too much.
I'm already jazzed. I can't take in any more energy before I step in there.
Do you see them?

Speaker 24 Because a lot of times, you get into a zone, DC, and you know, like you said, like you don't even, you don't even see the people. It's like a calm.
Like, I'm in a game, and it's like a calm.

Speaker 24 I don't even hear the crowd. Yeah, it's like everything is just like hush, and all of a sudden, you catch a pass, you touch a touchdown, and it's ah, I can hear it.

Speaker 24 Yes, it's great, but I could, like, I can't see him because I'm

Speaker 24 focused, tunneling purposely tunneling on the octagon and have the ability to go second. So, the guy that I'm fighting is already in there, right? Right?

Speaker 24 So, I'm not standing there waiting, trying to, so I'm going second. When I hit that, when I hit that, that freaking uh

Speaker 24 when I hit that, um, that step, those steps, I'd walk up.

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Speaker 24 And I tap the tap the octagon. That was some football shit we used to always hit there.
Play like a champ today, right? I always tap the octagon. I go in there, bro, there's Bruce.

Speaker 24 Bruce is dressed to the dime. There's some commissioners making sure we don't fight before.
And then when they do the last instructions and you turn around,

Speaker 24 There's a pin that they dropped to lock the cage. It makes that sound right there that he just dropped.
I could hear it.

Speaker 24 20,000 in in the arena and you could still hear that i could hear that pin and then i would say to myself i swear to god i would be like somebody gotta die in this it ain't gonna be me swear to god every time i'd be like somebody gonna die in here like

Speaker 24 i'm about to make you go make you go unlock that gate

Speaker 24 my goal is to make you unlock

Speaker 24 over this

Speaker 24 You're gonna either jump over to run away from me, or they're gonna pull me off of you by the time this is done. Right.

Speaker 24 And then that was always my approach because you had to look at it like life and death. You just had to.
I had so many things. I wouldn't eat.
I would like abstain from sex.

Speaker 24 I wanted to be as primal as I could be going into the octagon. Would you cut, okay, you're the light heavy that weight of 205.
So now, so what are you coming down from?

Speaker 24 You coming from 230, you coming from 235, you come from 250. Where you coming from, Deep? Shannon.

Speaker 24 My nutritionist was at my house for a fight I was supposed to have in January, but I got hurt. The day before Thanksgiving, he had a turkey brine, a turkey and a brine.
It was in a big old pail. Yeah.

Speaker 24 It was white, though, Shannon. He was going to make us Thanksgiving dinner, but it was not going to be seasoned.
I got hurt right before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 24 Man, we took that turkey, rinse all that shit off, made it ourselves, and seasoned it. The next day, I weighed 257 pounds.
What?

Speaker 24 I weighed 257. And you got to be 205 in January? January 19th, I weighed in at 204.7.

Speaker 24 I was 257. What the? I was huge, man.
I was big. But, like, I wasn't tall.

Speaker 24 But I know that's a lot of weight in a small area, db but when i would walk into the octagon you could see where the power was in my ass and my legs yes it was like that all this you really explosive exactly and it was all in this right while i was the shorter guy short arms yeah i had my torso is not tall right but like it's in my legs and that's why the explosiveness was always so on right on display yeah it was good but it was the hair's the best It's like walk, dude, when you're on, when you're on that sideline and the national anthem is playing, that feeling, that's that's what we're feeling bro it's the best it's it literally i've

Speaker 24 that's why so many fighters end up on drugs and messed up because you can't replicate

Speaker 24 you can't replicate that no you can't and that's why athletes struggle once they leave the said sport is because you're never going to be able to replicate 20,000 80,000 however many thousand you're never going to be able to replicate the locker room you're never going to be able to replicate the bus rides the plane rides just the camaraderie now I don't know but that's what you miss the most that's what

Speaker 24 you literally miss the practices and afterwards just sitting there.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I didn't miss the games. I mean, the money was nice, but you just missed the camaraderie, the laughing, the joking.
You're in the line, stretching, and doing all those things. Yep.

Speaker 24 You mentioned Anaheim. You fought John Jones.
I think you were 35 and he was 27. Yep.
Yep. If you guys were comparable ages, is that fight different?

Speaker 24 I think there are a lot of reasons why he beat me.

Speaker 24 He's, I mean, have you met John Jones? I haven't. John Jones is probably 6'5,

Speaker 24 6'4, 6'4 ⁇ , 6'5 ⁇ .

Speaker 24 John Jones' arms are 84 inches apart, his reach. Wow.
Mine are 72.

Speaker 24 Yeah. So, like, he was taller.

Speaker 24 So even if, even at the same age, he would still be taller. Yes.

Speaker 24 Two of his brothers played in the NFL. One was like really good chandler.
Chandler.

Speaker 24 So I think

Speaker 24 I would be better because I would be younger, but I don't know if I could have been better in Anaheim because I trained so hard because he beat me the first time. I've never been better.

Speaker 24 When he beat me, I was better. That was the best you'd ever been.
I'd never been better. I would have beat everybody else in the world in all those weight classes.
I was never better than that night.

Speaker 24 And he beat me. And even the fight up to the point that he got me, it was just super competitive.
Right.

Speaker 24 Joe Rogan said something to the effect of, you can clearly see you're watching the two best lightweights we've ever seen in an octagon. Right.
Because we were both so locked in.

Speaker 24 So I don't know that the age made as much of a difference because i just think that he has a lot of built-in advantages yeah his height and his reach and he's got great timing and he's tough dude right he's very tough shannon like i would club him upside the head and he would just keep fighting he would just and not many did that and that's what i want what makes him because like you say okay he's he's six foot four and a half he's six five 84 inch reach um

Speaker 24 He could punch you. He can take you down.
See, he don't hit very hard, though. But his hands, he does not punch hard.
Really? No, he does not punch hard. He, he, so, we were, I went into the fight.

Speaker 24 I talked to Rashad Evans. Right.
And Rashad goes, he doesn't hit hard, but he has other weapons. So we first started fighting the first time.

Speaker 24 We trade jabs because I had a real unique ability because of my athleticism to get to the jab even though the guy was taller. So we jab each other and my nose started bleeding.

Speaker 24 I was like, well, why my nose bleeding? He always hit hard. My shit bleeding, his shit bleeding for different reasons.
But.

Speaker 24 Oh, there you go.

Speaker 24 I don't let him.

Speaker 24 ignore it.

Speaker 24 You can't think.

Speaker 24 Ignore that. You try to think that what it is.
So my shit bleed, right? And I'm like, why is my nose bleeding? I was like, why is my shit bleeding? So anyhow, he

Speaker 24 we start fighting, and I'm like, okay, but I got to pressure him because I'm shorter. Right.
Yo, you got to walk through some razors to get to him. He's got knees.
Yes.

Speaker 24 Elbows.

Speaker 24 So by the time I get in, I've been kneading the body three times. I've been elbowed two times.
So now I get off, I get my shit going, and then we get apart, right?

Speaker 24 So now I got to go all through the razors again to get my offense going again. That's what makes him special.
He's a special fighter, he really is.

Speaker 24 And I respect him for what he did inside the octane, mainly because he beat me on that night.

Speaker 24 And you said that's the absolute best

Speaker 24 DC has ever, ever been.

Speaker 24 Shannon,

Speaker 24 I was in such great shape. My shoulders were like big.
I was lifting. I was running.
I was training hard. Well, conditioned.
I was well conditioned. I was mopping.
You was ready to go five.

Speaker 24 If five is what is required, it's cool. Because we went 25 the first time.
Yes. Right.
So

Speaker 24 my cardio failed me. Okay.
So I was like, I need to be better because it's going 25 again. Okay.
And then ultimately he got me with the head kit. Right.
But

Speaker 24 I was in shape, man. I was ready to go.
My mind was strong. Everything was ready to go get the job done on that night, but he was he got it done.

Speaker 24 What about him at what if y'all had moved up? Y'all similar in age? Let's just say for the sake of argument, you three years apart, and now y'all move up and y'all fight heavyweight.

Speaker 24 Nah, he wasn't beating me at heavyweight. He couldn't beat you? I don't think so because I was good at heavyweight.
I think I was probably better at heavy. You're probably a natural heavyweight.

Speaker 24 They're worried that you figure it out. He's up there my natural weight.
I was like my natural weight. But he almost admitted it.

Speaker 24 He said in the time that we were fighting, he goes,

Speaker 24 no, I'm not going to fight him at heavyweight. That would be giving him the advantage.

Speaker 24 He goes, He's bigger than me naturally. And he goes, No.
But then, like, a couple weeks ago, he was talking about me fighting. I was like, Bruh, I'm 45 years old, man.
I'm 46 now.

Speaker 24 Go fight the dude that wants to fight you. Right.
Got a big

Speaker 24 one, you're not heavy.

Speaker 24 I would beat DC at heavyweight. Yo, I've been retired for five years, my brother.

Speaker 24 Go fight somebody else. Like, I'm good.
Pickle somebody your own son. Go fight Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 24 When you and John got into it

Speaker 24 at the presser. The very first.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 What happened? Damn, DC.

Speaker 24 Hey, Shannon,

Speaker 24 it's so funny because

Speaker 24 MMA has struggled to encapture the urban audience. Yes.
It really has.

Speaker 24 John and I are going to fight the first time. John and I have had, we've always had a history of not getting along great.
Right. So when the press conference happened, we came forehead to forehead.

Speaker 24 I pushed him. He pushed me.
We flew off the octane. That was right in the middle of football season in every sports center, everything led with that.
Correct. Because it was that big.

Speaker 24 Lorenzo Fertita told me, he goes, You guys would have made so much money. He goes, You made great money in January, but it was six months.

Speaker 24 He goes, If y'all fought in September, he goes, You can't imagine how much money you would have made on pay-per-view. But because the fire had died down a little bit after six months passed.

Speaker 24 But we had that moment where

Speaker 24 the cameras kept recording. It was just, we just didn't like each other.
But

Speaker 24 after the fight, I was in Newark, New Jersey, walking around like I would always do. And that's when I realized that being in there with him had changed the way the public perceived me.
Right?

Speaker 24 Because I'm in a very urban neighborhood, very black. And everybody's like, hey, hey, hey.
But I think it was because of what we did for each other.

Speaker 24 Hate each other, dislike each other. We did great business.
And we did elevate each other to the point that when I fought Steve A, I was able to elevate him

Speaker 24 because of the name recognition I got from fighting John.

Speaker 24 Look, the elephant in the room, I saw Demetrius Johnson says, because John Jones, the steroid, is tied to his name, he can't be in the GOAT conference. I don't believe that.

Speaker 24 I don't believe that he should be considered the greatest of all time.

Speaker 24 I've said that. You can't, you can't,

Speaker 24 Shannon, steroids

Speaker 24 in fighting is much different than anything else in the world. They make you stronger, they make you faster, they give you endurance, recovery ability when you train.

Speaker 24 That's mainly what steroids do.

Speaker 24 It allows you to go there and go hard and go hard tomorrow and go hard the day after and go hard the day after and go hard the day after. That's when you grow.
That's when you become better. Yep.

Speaker 24 Because it gets to a point where you're like, damn,

Speaker 24 I can't give you everything today. Yes.
But you can go back to back to back. And that was me at 36, right?

Speaker 24 Even though I was the best I could ever be, the best I could ever be, I'm working as hard as I could ever work in my life, knowing that I have to be ready. At 36, he's 28, right? So he's in his prime.

Speaker 24 He's in his prime, but that's the fight that he actually tested positive and they made it a no contest.

Speaker 24 So while he's doing that, It's like, like you said, he's able to keep up with me work-wise, but exceed it.

Speaker 24 Because at a point, I got to say, hey, coach i gotta take a morning man i need it yeah i have to i have to take a morning and i don't know that he would need to do that yeah so i i don't i don't i don't uh did you suspect no at the time when you were in there with him that they're slipping they might not be on the up and up no no no no no i didn't suspect he felt like him he felt like he was always strong right he was always strong he was always big he was always in shape it wasn't nothing that surprised me

Speaker 24 What sucked was that was that I felt like I moved past it, right? Like, okay, this dude beat me twice, this shit's over.

Speaker 24 Like, there's nothing I'm gonna do to be the champ because if I can't beat him, nobody else is beating him.

Speaker 24 That was the truth, right? I was like, yo, if I ain't beating him, the rest of these dudes ain't beating him because I know how much. Right.

Speaker 24 Because when I fight the other ones,

Speaker 24 I destroy them. Right.
Right?

Speaker 24 Because

Speaker 24 they don't have the toolbox he got now. Exactly.
And plus, he's 6'5 ⁇ , 6'4 and a half. He's long, long limbs, and he, like, he has it all.
I mean, you can elbow, you can knee.

Speaker 24 If you write a checkbook, a checklist of what you want in a fighter at 205 to heavyweight, John Jones. They're talking about the White House.
They're talking about a White House fight card.

Speaker 24 Hey, man, we got to have some Americans win. Yes.

Speaker 24 I don't like John Jones. It's no secret.
The whole world knows it. I say, man, y'all better put John Jones on there.
Because right now we ain't got one American in the top 10 pound for pound.

Speaker 24 I said, if y'all want an American dude to go get a victory, put John Jones in there. Because he going to win.
That's what he does.

Speaker 24 But at the end of the day, I still don't believe, and I agree with DJ, it's like

Speaker 24 you just can't have that tied to your name, especially in fighting. Right.
And people call you the greatest of all time. He's the greatest talent the sport has ever seen.
Have we,

Speaker 24 that's what I was about to ask you. Have we ever seen someone in that sport that possessed the arsenal that he had? No.

Speaker 24 No, he's by far the, he's by far the most talented person that we've had in mixed martial arts. In terms of his, his length, his skills, his mind, he's the most talented guy we've ever had.

Speaker 24 We've had great fighters. Demetrius Johnson was amazing.
Khabib is amazing. But Khabib did it through grit, determination, and hard work.

Speaker 24 Khabib wasn't going to run a basketball and shoot it. John Jones, they got a video of John Jones trying to dunk a basketball.
You should see that. That is bad.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 obviously, he's an athlete. Look at his family.
Yes. Right.
He's got two brothers playing in NFL.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 He's the best athlete we've ever had.

Speaker 24 steroid, in terms of the best fighter of all time, I would never give that because of that. Now,

Speaker 24 he's not the only guy I fought on steroids. I think that before they started doing all that testing,

Speaker 24 all those guys were doing steroids. Really? I really do.
They just, they, I mean, many of them had popped for steroids before, and I fought them.

Speaker 24 And then they had figured out a way how to cycle on and off.

Speaker 24 So cycle on and off, or

Speaker 24 cycle on and off, or they just weren't testing. Right.

Speaker 24 I never took a drug test until I got into the UFC. I just went and fought.
So I don't know what those guys were doing. There was a guy.

Speaker 24 They said that this guy got tested positive for something. They said USADA, who was the testing commissioner at the time, bro,

Speaker 24 they got a bit like,

Speaker 24 I know when they're coming. Right.
They would come at 6 a.m. in the morning.

Speaker 24 I got tested 65 times from USADA from wrestling to then. But look at me.
I'm not on steroids.

Speaker 24 But you're hitting the numbers. I said that publicly one time way back in the day.
The next time they came to my house at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. So they were watching.

Speaker 24 But because they had gotten like repetitive, they heard fighters doing it. One guy popped for something, Shannon.
They got him at 10 p.m.

Speaker 24 They said if they would have let him go to bed and wake up the next morning and could have tested him, it'd have been gone. 12 hours,

Speaker 24 12 hours. for that to get out of his system.
It's crazy the level of stuff they have out there. Well, it's just like anything.
I mean, they're going to come up with something that's in and out.

Speaker 24 They got these peptides now.

Speaker 24 See? And you didn't think it was going to be. You thought you was going to have all that bite to it.
I don't drink. No, it don't have any breath.
It don't have any bite.

Speaker 24 But the viral video of you finding out that he tests positive and

Speaker 24 you feel like you were just so broken hearted. Heartbroken.

Speaker 24 It's like losing your first girlfriend. I had a girlfriend growing up and me and her, we went crazy, right?

Speaker 24 You have sex for the first time. It is all you want to do.
I'm checking myself out of school, man, to go meet this girl. She's checking herself out of school.

Speaker 24 She's up in the middle of the night on the phone because her mom doesn't let her use the phone.

Speaker 24 Our parents took us together. They found out what we were doing.

Speaker 24 They sat us in the front yard and told us we could not see each other anymore. That made yourself.
That's what it felt like.

Speaker 24 Let me tell you something. I'm on the city bus getting over that bitch.

Speaker 24 I'm there. I was in my 35 cents.

Speaker 24 I'm going to her house. Who Who doesn't mama go to work? And you said.
It was like that. I will sign a waiver.
I want to fight him. Heartbroken because I know how hard I had worked.

Speaker 24 Again, it was just like Anaheim. I worked so hard to prepare myself.

Speaker 24 When you're fighting,

Speaker 24 that's your business partner. Imagine you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs

Speaker 24 and on Sunday, they just don't show up.

Speaker 24 Think about it. We're done practicing all week.
Yeah, they just don't show up.

Speaker 24 But your game check is tied to them showing up. Yes.
Now you're like, hey, man, you're hurting my business. I didn't know what the first check looked like when we fought.
I want that second check.

Speaker 24 Next check.

Speaker 24 And then hopefully we go a third time. You know what I'm saying? It's like that was the hurt of it.
And then it was UFC 200. Man, we were on Good Morning America together.
It was big.

Speaker 24 And I was like, man, we need a...

Speaker 24 It was hard. I was heartbroken because it's not just me.
It was my entire team that worked so hard to make sure I was prepared to fight that night. So yeah, I said, I'll sign whatever I need to.

Speaker 24 But Dana was like, come on. Dana was like, you can't do that.
You could tell he didn't want to tell me that. You could tell it was like, he was like, can I talk to you?

Speaker 24 I was like, what do you need me to do? What do you need? I was staying at the MGM's signature because I always stayed like at that small little one on the side.

Speaker 24 He goes, can you come over to the arena right now? And I was like, why? I was like, it's two in the afternoon. He goes, I want you to, I have to talk to you about something really important.

Speaker 24 So I walk over with my team and he's in the back in that hallway. And he tells me, and he goes, we have to talk to the media.
I was like, damn, this everything's in place. And I didn't know.

Speaker 24 I was still just going about my day like I was going to go cut weight to make for the fight. And he was like, you have to address the media.
It's horrible. I was up there crying and shit.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I know. People, man, DZ, what you crying for? DZ crying.

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Speaker 24 Every time

Speaker 24 all these needs do cry i didn't got me crying multiple times did you drive home from from from or did you fly after you found out that the fight no no no no i fought i fought remember i fought anderson silver two days later they got anderson to fight yeah which was good i actually i got to fight anderson silver which was awesome but thank god anderson said yes yes not many people would have done it no no not two days no but but is it hard because you're fighting a fight because a lot i've seen people take fights on short notice and kick the other fighter fighter's ass because he's not prepared to fight that guy.

Speaker 24 You prepared to fight a guy with one style, and this guy has a different style, and you're like, and something bad could have happened. So I was surprised you even took that.

Speaker 24 So I took the fight because I want, dude, I wanted to fight badly. Like, when you

Speaker 24 want to fight. You want the check.
You want to fight.

Speaker 24 You want the chick, but you want to fight.

Speaker 24 Right. Because that's what you do.
I took all that weight. I was already 215 pounds.
Like, I don't want to go through all that. Right.
And then in two months, they go, you got to do it again. Right.

Speaker 24 Because as a champion, I would fight two times a year, max. Yes.
Right. So I'm like, I don't want to have to go through that again.
So I would,

Speaker 24 I fought Anderson. And it wasn't a great fight because, again, I was so nervous.

Speaker 24 Dude, I was in the octagon. I looked across and I was like, the very first UFC I ever went to, I went to Philadelphia to watch Anderson Silver beat Forrest Griffin.

Speaker 24 And I mean, Anderson was flexing on him. He's like moving sideways, punching him with one hand.
Forrest is just falling down. He finishes the guy that was the UFC light heavyweight champion.

Speaker 24 I was like, damn, this is crazy. I'm fighting Anderson.
I'm in the octagon. I go to the middle.

Speaker 24 When I walk back to the Sashay, I look behind me and I said, oh my God, there's actually Anderson Silver standing over there. Like, seriously.
I'm really fighting a legend.

Speaker 24 I'm really fighting Anderson Silver.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 That was the first, I've never had that happen to me in my life. It was always somebody's got to die.
Except for when I fought Anderson, I was like, you're like, I don't want to beat this man.

Speaker 24 I got to fight Anderson Silver. But then once I got, then I started trying to kick him.
No,

Speaker 24 Shay, I never had that problem.

Speaker 24 You don't take it easy though, though. Dan Henderson was my idol.
He was on the Olympic team. I choke him unconscious.
Damn, DC. I beat the shit out of him.

Speaker 24 You don't feel bad? Hell no. Somebody got to die?

Speaker 24 Shay, somebody got to get it. Right? Will you play your brother in football? If you play his third, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We grow up. No, you want to lose? No, I'm trying to kill him.

Speaker 24 I'm trying to kill him, and we love him. And tell him about it afterwards.
Yes.

Speaker 24 John retires, and everybody's like, hold on, bro. You retired.
And then two weeks later, you're talking about you and protocol again, testing protocol. Yeah.
That pissed you off, didn't it?

Speaker 24 So when he retired,

Speaker 24 it didn't.

Speaker 24 I just want him to, I want to see him fight Tom Aspinall.

Speaker 24 I just want him to see, I want to see him fight Tom Aspina. Aspinall that good? He good, Shannon.
He literally has everything you want in the heavyweight.

Speaker 24 He's big, he's physical, he can wrestle, he's fast.

Speaker 24 Michael Bisping

Speaker 24 once said to me, oh man, I'm telling you, he could be like Muhammad Aliyah MMA. I said, man, you're going crazy.
I said, you're a person that works at the company.

Speaker 24 You're a person that people take your opinion seriously. Seriously.
You cannot be that strong on one side. He goes, I swear it's true.

Speaker 24 He's fighting a guy named Sergei, who had knocked out 10 straight people. Nobody can go around with Sergei.
Tom Aspenox knocks him out in a round, walks into the thing and hugs Michael Bisbing.

Speaker 24 I was like, I said, Bisming, I thought you were like his advocate. You advocating for this dude.
But I'm like, he's actually that good. And then he beats up on Curtis Blades.
He beats everybody.

Speaker 24 And so when I think about it, I'm like, okay, now we get to see John. Because

Speaker 24 John and I did this thing called Counterpunch, where he sat on one side, I sat on the other with Joe Rogan.

Speaker 24 And John said,

Speaker 24 it was so, it was crazy because we just hated each other so much. We were just talking.
Right.

Speaker 24 John said to me, he said,

Speaker 24 at the end of the day,

Speaker 24 I'm better than you because I'm younger. He goes,

Speaker 24 You can't beat me in the basketball game. I go, well, that's debatable.

Speaker 24 You cannot swim me. You can't outrun me.
He said, because every day you wake up, you're a day older, and you look in the mirror and you see a 36-year-old man. And I look in, I'm in my absolute prime.

Speaker 24 I'm 28.

Speaker 24 He said, you can't be better than me because the laws of life don't allow for a 36-year-old man to be better than a 28-year-old man when we're doing the same thing

Speaker 24 Tom Aspinall is 30 now. John Jones is 38.

Speaker 24 I want to see it on the opposite side. Because he said, and he said, well, he should be favored because, you know, he's much younger.
And I've heard you and other fighters say, well, you were.

Speaker 24 The whole time. The older guy gave you an opportunity.
He dropped the ladder. So return the favor and give this guy.
You don't think there's any chance that John can beat him? I do.

Speaker 24 That's the problem. If I had, I said to my, I said, gun to my head, if I had to choose, I would probably say John Jones would win.
Wow. It's all I've seen him do.
I've seen him fight. He's right.

Speaker 24 He's, everyone, this is always the next best guy. This guy's going to beat me.
This guy's going to beat John Jones. And what does John do? He vanquishes him.
He beats him.

Speaker 24 They say that about Gustavuson? They said it about Gustavus. Said it about me.
Said it about Rashad. Said it about Rampage.
Said it about Cyril Gon. I mean, he dirty Cyril Gon up.

Speaker 24 I mean, the man had been away for 100 years and walked through Cyril Gon like Cyril Gon was me. That was embarrassing to us, DC.
DC, that was embarrassing. Look,

Speaker 24 DC, that was embarrassing. I've been trying to stay off of Cyril, man, because I like Cyril.
Yo, when Cyril's on the ground and he looked at him like,

Speaker 24 I was like, he looked like he saw a ghost. He was so in awe of John that he couldn't even compete with him.
I was like, bro. He about to fight for the world title again.

Speaker 24 Imagine if Cyril Gon went and John goes, okay, okay, I'm back. Yeah.
Boy, that would piss somebody off. That would piss people off.
Because if Cyril beats Tom, because he's Cyril is that good. He is.

Speaker 24 He's that good. He could beat Tom Aspinau.
No, but Dana ain't gonna let that happen. What if John's like, yo,

Speaker 24 you know, Dana won't let that happen. Dana will not let John come back and fight Cyril Gon for the heavyweight title.
He's like, no, no, no, you got to fight.

Speaker 24 He's going to be the ultimate move of all time. I would laugh at that shit.

Speaker 24 I would be happy. Like, John,

Speaker 24 you'll cold for that one. Yeah.
Okay. You say you can't put John as your GOAT.
Give me your Mount Rushmore fighters. Demetrius Johnson.
Okay.

Speaker 24 George St. Pierre.
Okay.

Speaker 24 Khabib.

Speaker 24 Khabib was undefeated. Nobody be him.

Speaker 24 Fourth,

Speaker 24 God, that's where it gets tough. That's where it gets tough.
Because you feel like you want to put, like, When we talk about just accomplishments, no one's more accomplished than Amanda Nunes. Right.

Speaker 24 Can I really put her on the Mount Rushmore of fighting? But George, Demetrius, Khabib,

Speaker 24 God, there's some good guys. Chuck Liddell was good, man.
Chuck Liddell is kind of responsible for us being here. Randy Kultur won two titles in his bracket.

Speaker 24 I think that fourth place would belong to one of those guys, I think. Somebody like that, because

Speaker 24 I can't put, I would never put myself up there. Right.
Right? Right. But I'm like right in that four to seven range.
Yeah, I thought you might put Anderson.

Speaker 24 Anderson had the

Speaker 24 Anderson had the steroids. Yeah.
Right? Like he said, like, I can't put Anderson. Like, I would like to put Anderson.

Speaker 24 If I'm saying all those guys included, then obviously John and Anderson are on that Mount Rush spawn. But I don't do that.

Speaker 24 I refuse to. It's not in fighting.

Speaker 24 Barry Bonds was in a Hall of Famer before he even went to San Francisco. Correct.
Right? Yeah. Plus, he's hitting with a baseball bat.
He's not punching someone in the face.

Speaker 24 Women fighters,

Speaker 24 what did Ronda Rousey do for MMA? Everything for women. Dana on record said, I will never have women fighting in the USC or something very close to that.

Speaker 24 Then Rhonda came along and she just opened up the floodgates. And now Dana goes in his life, very rarely does he make decisions where he's like,

Speaker 24 I really messed up. He openly goes, Ronda Rousey coming in and making me take on female fighting is one of the best decisions I've ever made.
Right. Because it gave me Amanda Nunes.

Speaker 24 It gave me Zhang Wui Li, Valentina Shevchenko. It's like all these women have an opportunity because of Rhonda.
No Ronda Rousey, like I don't know if women still today fight in the UFC.

Speaker 24 That's how important she is.

Speaker 24 Could she have been better?

Speaker 24 I think she was at the right time also.

Speaker 24 The girls just weren't well-rounded enough to compete with her. And when she got somebody that was well-rounded.

Speaker 24 You saw what Amanda did to her. I saw Holly Holmes kicked her.
Holly kicked her in the head. That was probably the beginning of the end, wasn't it? Yeah.

Speaker 24 You know, again, like, you know, when it's done. But at the end is when the money gets better than it's ever been.
So, yeah. She couldn't have beat him.

Speaker 24 If she couldn't have beaten Holly, she was not going to beat Amanda. No.
But I think it was just such a great pull to have her back that she didn't.

Speaker 24 You mentioned this, the UFC at the White House. Dana, look, I was at the, when they had it at the sphere.
Oh, you went, huh? I went.

Speaker 24 It was amazing. It was amazing.
And I wouldn't put anything. If Dana say they're going to have a fight on the moon,

Speaker 24 I don't know what airline flying to the moon, but it's going to happen. It's going to happen.
If he says they're going to have it on the White House lawn,

Speaker 24 now I don't know how they're going to pat everybody down and frisk everybody and do background checks because maybe it's just closed circuit and there really are only a handful of staff there.

Speaker 24 No, no, I think it's going to be an event. They said they want 20,000 in there.
At the White House? At the White House.

Speaker 24 They got an Easter egg hunt at the White House where they put 28,000 on the Eastern hunt. But them kids.
I didn't. Hey, Shannon, I swear to God.
Shannon, I swear to God.

Speaker 24 I was not believing it until I saw that they have that Easter egg hunt. I was like, wow, well, then it's possible.
Because right now,

Speaker 24 when Trump goes to a fight,

Speaker 24 we get background checks. Yes.
The night before they go to the arena, they're sweeping it. They sweep it.
They sweep it. The moral of the fight.
They sweep it before he shows up.

Speaker 24 I don't know. But

Speaker 24 I told Dana this recently. We were in New Orleans and I said, you're going to the White House for real.
He goes,

Speaker 24 I said,

Speaker 24 because you said we got a year, we're a year away.

Speaker 24 He was talking about something on an interview, and he goes, we still got a year. The world's going to change in MMA by that point.
I said, you're speaking in definites. I go, this is happening.
Yeah,

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Speaker 24 You said, look,

Speaker 24 we don't have really any Americans in the pound for pound top 10. And we just can't have, you know,

Speaker 24 foreigners coming in and winning all the fights at the White House. No, we got to.
So you got to put John Jones. Calvin Johnny.

Speaker 24 Call Cap. But I'm calling him Captain America.

Speaker 24 Somebody got to win.

Speaker 24 But Dana wants for sure things, knows that guys are going to be, he can count on.

Speaker 24 I think he's going to fight at at the white house he has to

Speaker 24 he has to fight at the white house aspinall junk i mean

Speaker 24 i don't know why he won't fight this dude i i said this the other day i go if i was still fighting i'd have fought tom aspinall already i just would have did it like the bigger the challenge the better it's like go prove yourself but i don't know why he'll do it but yeah he might have to fight tom aspinall like you said dana's gonna make him fight tom what i mean how much money would they need need for DC to come out of retirement to fight the White House?

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I'm not fighting. He got 20 million for you.
I'm still not doing a shit.

Speaker 24 Say, I can't train. I can't train.
I go live, dude. I'm doing CrossFit.

Speaker 24 I was just today practicing how I'm going to do sumo

Speaker 24 deadlifts. I'm like, I'm doing sumo deadlifts.
I'm like, I'm just getting excited to go do my sumo deadlifts. Jay, I can't fight because I can't, I can't.

Speaker 24 I was sparring the other day.

Speaker 24 I started a team of guys that I'm training, helping create their careers. I was sparring.
One of them punched me in my rib with a straight right hand. Boom, right here.

Speaker 24 Dude, it was the most painful shot I'd taken. My rib come out, right? My rib come out.
I'm in pain, Shannon. I can't get off my couch.

Speaker 24 I'm just like, oh, every time I get off my couch, I'm rolling to my knees to then push up because I can't squeeze my core. Every time I squeeze my core, it hurts.
Man,

Speaker 24 I go take a nap. I'm just sleeping, I guess.
And I'm because I'm sleeping, rolling, I sleep, I roll over the top of it, pop it back in place. But I'm like, I couldn't do this every day like I used to.

Speaker 24 I always had separated ribs or black eyes, and I just couldn't do that anymore.

Speaker 24 This life is too comfortable, what I do now.

Speaker 24 You make a good living. You don't need to go punch, kick it.
I don't want to fight no more, man. Plus, like, come on, go put some pads on.
Go tackle somebody. No, no, no.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 24 You don't have to be two artificial heels, bone on bone.

Speaker 24 I'm good. The pain is too great.

Speaker 24 I think that's what people take for granted. Like how great the pain is that we endure to do what we did.
Right.

Speaker 24 It sucks. I mean, before I got my hips replaced, DC, I just thought the pain that I was in was normal because I had dealt with it for so long.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 And you get to, and you're like, okay, this is my new normal.

Speaker 24 And then the doctor says, no, you don't have to live like that. How much better does it feel? A thousand.
Really? I mean, there was no position that I could get in that was comfortable.

Speaker 24 If I lay down, it hurt. If I stood, if it hurt.
It walked, it hurt. Sitting, hurt.
Standing too long, it hurt. There was no position in which my body didn't hurt.
My hips didn't hurt. That's bad.

Speaker 24 I don't have that. Thank God I don't have that.
Yeah. Because that shit seems so bad.
It is.

Speaker 24 What about Conor McGregor at the White House?

Speaker 24 Okay, shit.

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 24 It's over, bro. It's over for it.
It's over, dog.

Speaker 24 Man, this dude, Conor McGregor, he is tripping. Connor McGregor is tripping.
He made too much money, huh? He made way too much.

Speaker 24 He went from plumbing to making, he sold that liquor for what, 500 million? Yeah. It's too much.
Right. He got 100 million for fighting Floyd.
He got 100 million for fighting Floyd.

Speaker 24 Then he was doing pay-per-views like nothing. Him and Khabib did two and a half million pay-per-views.
These dudes, he made too much money. Connor says he wants to fight all the time.

Speaker 24 And everybody kind of, They jump to it. But it's like he wants to stay relevant.
Right. He wants to stay in the news.
He He wants to stay.

Speaker 24 He wants the notoriety of being Conor McGregor without having to be Conor McGregor. Right.
And that kind of sucks because when he was the man,

Speaker 24 I bet you tapped in. Oh, yeah.
I bet you tapped into the UFC more than that.

Speaker 24 Because he could sell a fight. He could sell a fight.
He could sell it.

Speaker 24 Him and Khabib was the best. Did you think he was just one-dimensional and that's why?

Speaker 24 He was good. He was very good.
But when they got him on the ground, D.C., he couldn't get up. They couldn't get him on the ground.
Yeah, they did. Khabib got him on the ground.

Speaker 24 That Khabib was a different person, though.

Speaker 24 Him and Khabib really didn't like each other.

Speaker 24 You know, sometimes you're like, oh, we just sell in the fight. But it seemed that

Speaker 24 it was a little more to it. Like,

Speaker 24 Khabib sincerely and genuinely did not like Connor.

Speaker 24 He won't say his name still today.

Speaker 24 He still does not say his name. Because of what he said about his religion and about his dad.

Speaker 24 He still won't say his name. Last week he did an interview in New York.
He says, this guy, he'll never say his name. He hates him.

Speaker 24 Dude, they're in the octagon, and Connor goes, He whispers after the third round, after Khabib's bee, it's just business. Khabib goes, No, it ain't.

Speaker 24 No, it ain't. You don't mess with them dudes, man.
Them Russian dudes, they're and then when he, like, when he had him,

Speaker 24 the ref had to do a little bit extra. DC, you saw that, DC.
He was he wasn't gonna let him go. He wasn't gonna let him go.
He was gonna put him to sleep, Shannon.

Speaker 24 He was holding him, and he said, I kicked your ass.

Speaker 24 I kicked your ass. And he kind of was like, Then he jumped over the fence.
Yes. And try to beat his team.

Speaker 24 He's like, I was like, whoa. But, dude, he had him.
He was not going to let him go because he felt so, his family got so disrespected by this dude that he wanted to end them.

Speaker 24 And honestly, sometimes you bite off more than you can chew. Yeah.
Because Connor got beat bad that night. He did.
He got beat bad. I mean,

Speaker 24 but here's the thing that shocked a lot of people. Connor made Khabib.
He really did make Khabib the biggest, a bigger shoe.

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Speaker 24 Star. Like we talked about me and Jones.

Speaker 24 Khabib went from, I think he had two or three million followers on Instagram. The next morning, 10 million.
Wow. After that fight and all that happened.
10 million.

Speaker 24 Crazy. 7 million a night?

Speaker 24 That's a big jump. You think Khabib would come out of retirement? Khabib told me, we did a thing a while back where Khabib said they offered him $40 million to fight.
He said, no.

Speaker 24 he ain't coming back.

Speaker 24 If they offered him $40 million, he hasn't come back yet, he ain't coming back. No, no, he ain't that.

Speaker 24 I bet in Dagestan, you can make a million dollars and be good for the rest of your life. Yeah, right?

Speaker 24 In that place.

Speaker 24 Well, if they offered Khabib 40 million, what'd they offer John Jones to fight Aspinov? I think they offered, John said he won it 30, and I think they got the money. They got 30 for me.
He said, No.

Speaker 24 They got 30 for me. He said, Hey, let me tell you something.
I just told you, I'm barbecue meat.

Speaker 24 30?

Speaker 24 All of a sudden, you don't hear me. 30?

Speaker 24 Shit.

Speaker 24 I might test positive after it's over.

Speaker 24 What is it about Dagestan that the guys they can wrestle? Now, look, I've seen somebody follow somebody like those wrestlers, wrestlers. Yeah.

Speaker 24 They really, I'm talking about those guys that go to the Olympics. That's a whole different level of wrestling down there.
Them dudes.

Speaker 24 How did they get so good? They just, so over there, they put them in wrestling, they put them in both styles.

Speaker 24 Then, at like five, six years old, they identify like where a kid's going to be better, and that's all they do all the way up through school.

Speaker 24 Khabib and Islam started doing sambo when they were super young together, right? Right, with his dad. So, their whole life they did combat sambo.

Speaker 24 Combat sambo was actually like gee tops punching, yeah, grappling. Like

Speaker 24 they were essentially doing MMA as like kids right and then

Speaker 24 just keep getting better i i think i think

Speaker 24 i think for my son

Speaker 24 right

Speaker 24 to

Speaker 24 have the mentality that i have or had

Speaker 24 it's impossible his life's too comfortable yeah okay his life's too comfortable

Speaker 24 You and your brother and to your children, they can't even make themselves think like you did growing up where you you grew up and how you grew up right so it's like

Speaker 24 they they all live like that because while khabib i i want to see khabib's son and then the next islam's son

Speaker 24 then we could see if how it does over there because for them it was the way to live right and change all of their lives everybody's lives yeah just like us yes right it's like yes we're almost like desperate one of my kids like playing football and he's like i want to do this and i want to do this i go well you got to be at every practice you got to go with your individual coach like you got to go on sunday whenever you go do all your speed and agility right you have to get up early in the morning to lift weights i go because while you are living where you live and how you live there's a kid like me

Speaker 24 that's doing the same thing but without the fallback of what my dad did to make sure that i'm okay when all this is done right So I don't know that we can, how does Christian McCaffrey develop the mentality that his father had?

Speaker 24 Unless his father came with a whole promotion, you know, Ed. Maybe he had a whole bunch of money.
But I don't know how does he develop that mentality? I'm a firm believer when I look at the Mannings.

Speaker 24 Yep, them. Archie Manning and

Speaker 24 Peyton and Eli. They just teach him.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 I mean, it's something special for you to, for your dad to have. and says, no, I want to get it.
See, I still have a healthy respect for Bronnie. Yes.
Because he still, you know,

Speaker 24 the likelihood of you having a historically or a transcendent great parent and then the child be equally as transcendent and great is just not going to happen.

Speaker 24 If great Ken Griffey, King Griffey Sr. was a good baseball player, but he wasn't Jr.
No, he wasn't. Bobby Bonds was an unbelievable player.
He wasn't Barry. Nope.
Nope.

Speaker 24 And so to ask, Kareem has son, Magic got some, to ask their sons, their prodigy, to be just what you're, it ain't happening. So for the dad, for Ken Griffey Jr.
and Barry, their dads were good yes

Speaker 24 they just weren't them they weren't them so the second one was better yes but to ask the next one to be better than the one that's the greatest just imagine barry bond son being barry bonds or better no it's like it's like uh vladimir guerrero yeah he was really good yeah but his son now is

Speaker 24 with the same name yes with the same name better than his dad That's crazy. So for him to have another one that does that will be very hard.
But like, so

Speaker 24 where's like, where's Peyton's son? Where's Eli's son?

Speaker 24 Peyton said his son went to his camp a couple weeks ago. I saw that.
Yes. But is he?

Speaker 24 It's going to be, I mean, come on. It's going to be hard.
Yes.

Speaker 24 Tom has a son. Yep.

Speaker 24 But you, but here's the thing. But Archie

Speaker 24 is good, but it's the other son. Yeah.
It's the other son. Right.

Speaker 24 So just imagine Tom Brady, Tom Brady's son. Benjamin,

Speaker 24 being as good as Tom.

Speaker 24 God ain't fit to bless you like that, bro. I'm sorry.

Speaker 24 He ain't finna bless you like that. That's not.

Speaker 24 I don't think so, man. It's hard.
Yes.

Speaker 24 But even for LeBron James Jr. Yes.
LeBron James Jr.

Speaker 24 to be in the NBA, it's nuts. And then to have another one that's supposed to be even better than the other one.
Yes. But

Speaker 24 to expect them, and I think the thing is. LeBron's done everything right.
Yes. But to expect a child to be LeBron or Kareem's son to be him or Magic son to be him.
Come on, bro. That's not happening.

Speaker 24 That's not going to happen. LeBron James Jr.,

Speaker 24 if he can stay in the league for 10 years, that to me would be astounding. Because, and he will.
He will. Yes.

Speaker 24 But to be in there 10 years after what your dad did with all that pressure, from the moment he picked up a basketball, there was pressure on him. Because the expectation, you got to be.

Speaker 24 Because everybody knows who your dad is. My son would wrestle.
And I would see people, oh, he just, I just, my kid just beat D.C.'s son. I'm like, like, but that ain't DC.
It's not.

Speaker 24 You didn't beat me, right? I just beat DC's boy. I had Karen Grifford Jr.
on, and when his son Trey was coming up, he played baseball, and the people in the stand would say, he ain't his dad.

Speaker 24 And his dad would say, name five people who are.

Speaker 24 Ooh, I like that. So

Speaker 24 what would they say then? They couldn't say anything.

Speaker 24 I mean, I wasn't, you know, he was an MVP.

Speaker 24 he i mean he he did everything yes he's one of the greatest he's one of the greatest players i mean the sweetest swing ever 600 home come on he ain't gonna be him no

Speaker 24 it's okay but the kid has to uh uh accept that yeah that it's okay and a lot of people you you were having we were having a conversation about my brother I embraced it.

Speaker 24 See, I never lived in the shadow. I embraced it.
Every number he had, I got the exact same number. He was three in high school.
I was three in high school. He was two in college.
I was two in college.

Speaker 24 He was 84, I was 84. Every car that he had, I got.
So I never looked at it like, and when people told me, man, you're not going to be like your brother, like, watch. Watch me.
Watch.

Speaker 24 But not many people have that. Yeah, they shouldn't.
Not many people have that dog in them like that. Like, there's a dog about that mentality that most people don't have.
Yes.

Speaker 24 Especially a kid that wakes up and he's sleeping in a beautiful home with everything he ever wants in his life. Like, it's hard for that kid to go.

Speaker 24 My kid gets up in the morning at 6:30, three days a week, and he lifts weights. Right.
My kid does wrestling practice at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 24 Then he goes to football practice at 5:30 in the afternoon. He does that four days a week.

Speaker 24 Then on Sundays, he meets with his private coach to do football training, where he does speed and agility, he catches passes, he goes through his coverages and his reads.

Speaker 24 For me, that's my son going, Dad, I want to try to do something great.

Speaker 24 I said, Pop, if if it works, awesome. If it doesn't, you gave yourself a chance.
That's it.

Speaker 24 You took advantage of every opportunity you had, everything that we have accrued, you used to try to better yourself.

Speaker 24 If it works, great. If it doesn't, you never skipped out on the work.
That's all I care about.

Speaker 24 And I'm fine with that. And maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
But he's given himself a chance, even though he doesn't have to.

Speaker 24 That's what I love. Good.
Let me ask you, how did you and Khabib become become such great fans that's my boy right there man he walked into the gym he walked into the gym by himself king mo the wall

Speaker 24 uh

Speaker 24 brought him from new jersey he wanted to come and train with all the wrestlers barely spoke a lick of english walked in the gym stayed at a extended stay america right up the street from uh aka and he would walk back and forth by himself from the the the hotel to the practice and on his first day i was like oh a little russian kid because i spent a lot of time there when i was wrestling we started kind of talking a little bit and it just it grew and then i just understand how much of a he's like a really good human being he's a good person real strong values and he's just he's the best i think he i think he's the best fighter ever really i do yeah i do i i saw a kid that came in there with limited striking

Speaker 24 He told you exactly what he was going to do every single time, and he did it. He was beating Michael Johnson up one time, telling him, Brother, you know, I deserve a title fight.
Right.

Speaker 24 You need to give up.

Speaker 24 Like, that's how dominant is. And he sat in the pocket with a Connor and knocked Connor down.
He knocked him down.

Speaker 24 After Connor had boxed Floyd Mayweather for nine rounds, he stood with him and knocked him down. Yeah, I think he's the best man.
I think he's

Speaker 24 he just stands for something so much bigger than just fighting. And I think he, like, I think he, I think he, uh,

Speaker 24 I think he, he, I think he, obviously, he elevates the people around around him, which is very important. But he also is like a

Speaker 24 guiding light for a lot of people that follow him. Right.
And he does things the right way.

Speaker 24 There's this viral clip going around that he refuses to shake this lady's hand out of respect for his wife. Yep.
And for

Speaker 24 his religion. And if you know his religion,

Speaker 24 that's

Speaker 24 the way it is. Right? But not many men are willing to do that, especially in that moment.
Right. Right?

Speaker 24 Kate Scott.

Speaker 24 Kate Kate Scott.

Speaker 24 She's a great analyst. Yes.

Speaker 24 But I think the reason it got so odd was because that kid reacted the way that he did. There was a YouTube kid that was up there with him, and he kind of was like, oh my God, like speed.
I show speed.

Speaker 24 And the way he acted was like, because he shook everyone's hand, but then he just politely said,

Speaker 24 and then I'm pretty sure he explained it to her afterwards. Yes.
And then, but again,

Speaker 24 it's live TV, right? Things happen.

Speaker 24 But that's respect to his wife. And then honestly, respect to Kate.
It's actually a respectful gesture to the person.

Speaker 24 You're refusing to shake hands because he, as a married man, should not shake the hand of another woman. Wow.

Speaker 24 What separate Russian fighters from American fighters?

Speaker 24 I don't think that, I don't think that

Speaker 24 is much more to it than

Speaker 24 just the

Speaker 24 need to change their lives. Yeah.
Right? Their need. I mean,

Speaker 24 even,

Speaker 24 even not, not, I'm not talking homeless. Like, I'm not talking like transient people that are living on the street.
But even our upbringing, even mine, where I lived in

Speaker 24 small house after small house when I was younger. Yeah.
Then my parents did all they could to move us into a big house to where they bought their first house for $10,000.

Speaker 24 It wasn't a great house, but it was theirs. That's still better

Speaker 24 than what they they have over there they're like it's all concrete just concrete stuff so yeah it's like i think it's just that mentality of need to get better that it makes allows for those guys to to kind of just elevate themselves a little more because even my upbringing and i thought that i had it tough was better than what they have there and you know what we people are willing to do to change their lives for sure yeah

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