BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 1: Dillon Gabriel throwing SHADE?! + Giants QB room

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Giants rookie first-round draft pick Jackson Dart through two preseason games.

Game one against the Bills, 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown.

Today, against the Jets, 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions.

Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson.

Russell Russ is our starting quarterback.

We're going to keep developing Jackson.

I do see a scenario.

Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback.

Yeah,

absolutely.

And Jameis the number three, because I don't think there is a number four.

The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has.

You think they keep all four?

You think they keep all three of them?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Do you think the Giants letting Jameis go?

Absolutely not.

Jameis is a good veteran, even if he's not on the field.

Good locker room presence.

A good locker room presence.

Don't fall.

Yeah,

how much money does Jameis have guaranteed?

Wait, wait, get her iPad

in her shoes.

No, that's my charger, Papa.

That's my charger.

Okay.

Yeah, I got her charger.

Come on, you don't need to put them on.

Two year, nine million, right?

Two million.

Give his daddy a kiss.

Give me a kiss while you finish.

You keep interrupting.

I'm just

Now you go.

Say bye.

Say bye.

Bye-bye.

Love you.

I love you.

Love you too.

Papa.

See, the papa's better than girl.

I say, I'm Papa's better than all right.

Okay, now we can.

Now we can talk.

We can talk.

You can talk.

We can go.

No more interruption.

Oh, Joe.

Damn.

What happened?

What?

What?

What happened?

I'm trying to like.

I mean,

looking at it,

Russ is the starter.

Right.

You're developing, you're developing, you're developing Jackson Dart.

Last week he started number three.

This week he starts number two.

I wouldn't look into that.

You're looking too much into it.

You're looking too much into it.

I think the ball,

they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back.

Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back.

I think rookies not being thrown to the Wolves, some are good at it.

No, no, no, no, Russ is the starter.

I believe Russ starts.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm looking at the situation with Jameis.

Oh, he's not going nowhere?

He's not going nowhere.

They're going to keep three quarterbacks.

Jackson Dart will more so, obviously, be developing, and he would be the practice squad quarterback.

I don't know.

I don't think they're throwing young bull out there to the wolves like that as a rookie.

No, I'm not saying no.

He's not

Russ starting.

Right.

Russ is going to be the day one starter.

Right.

But if Russ is the day one starter, and then you have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep the veteran as the third guy?

Absolutely.

That's what I'm asking you.

Absolutely.

Because the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the guy there, excuse me, than just being on the field.

He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback.

You don't let a locker room presence like that go.

You just don't.

They do it all the time.

But there's only one Jameis Winston.

No.

I know.

There's only one.

And they let let him go in New Orleans when he's more than that.

They let him go in Cleveland when he was more than that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's not

like it used to be, Ocho, because the salaries are exploding so much.

Right.

And you used to be able to keep a veteran guy.

Right.

Because the numbers were low.

The numbers were low.

They were favorable.

They were favorable.

Yes.

Yes.

I got you.

I got you.

You're right.

But it's going to be very interesting, but I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks.

Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today.

Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series.

Fields went 003 when targeted and wide out Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State.

The lack of a legit wide receiver number two to compliment

Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking.

I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver, Ocho.

Wait, who's the number two in New York?

Alan Lazard.

Is he hurt?

Chad, who's the number two in New York?

Wait, matter of fact, you got Brees Hall and um,

what's Alan first name?

God, what's Alan's first name?

Maybe Derrick Henry

It's Josh Reynolds.

Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard.

Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds.

You remember Josh Reynolds?

You played with the Rams.

He was in Detroit.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I mean, I mean,

I like it, but you know what, Ocho, when you that dog and they gave you 30 million, damn, what's on the other side?

Yeah, go get open, yeah,

they pay you 30 million

when you the number one right you get no excuses there are none no zero not when they pay you that kind of money no you're number one for a reason you're number one because two three and four can't do what you can do right

i don't think that i don't i don't think was getting open the issue it wasn't the issue it's just the passes mighty well i saw two routes uh he ran a stop route guy was right there i think he ran another route The guy was, you know.

See,

that's why I don't like them damn joint practices.

Stuff like that.

You done see.

You done seen it all week.

You know what's coming.

Formation recognition, knowing the count, knowing where I'm lining up, understand I'm a split, and you know what's coming.

So you're going to sit there and cheat.

I don't like that.

I don't like that.

Because Garrett Wilson is a route runner.

I don't know if you paid

attention to him.

Yeah.

He's a route runner.

So, I mean, I think they're going to be all right.

It's

a little too soon, the panic, you know, whatever.

Justin Fields is finally getting his turn.

He doesn't have to look over his shoulder.

This is your team.

This is your team.

You have a head coach that is going to do right by you.

You got to make the most of this opportunity.

And I mean, it's preseason.

You want to get all your mistakes out right now.

So the game you have today

you don't want you can't repeat these right you got to fix it now because he's in year what this is year four justin fields yeah

oh two years three yeah four yeah yeah this is this is your make it this is your make it a break of year two

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We got to get back to the Dylan Brooks.

Dylan Brooks.

Dylan Gabriel.

He did eight of his first nine passes, threw a pick six, bad decision, but was later credited with a fumble on a botched handoff.

After the game, he made some very, very interesting comments.

He said, there are entertainers and there are competitors, and my job is to compete.

He tried to clarify later at the presser, saying he meant the media are the entertainers and a competitor, and he's a competitor, but...

And he wasn't taking a shot at Shadur, but the damage was done.

Everybody knows what he meant by that, because you know why?

I'm gonna let you take off.

You remember in Oregon what the head coach said when they played Colorado?

Right.

Oh,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who was the quarterback?

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

All right, go ahead, Ocho, go ahead.

But listen, I don't, I don't, hey, Chad, I don't want to do him like that.

I'm going to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace, a little understanding, because I don't think

a college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he's competing with for a job.

I just don't see,

I don't see it.

I see it as

him when he says entertainers in that aspect where he said it's the media.

I'm not sure how he views the media as the entertainers, but the way the media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus.

And all he does is compete.

I see it from that sense.

I don't see him as,

I'm not even sure if he's that type of person, that type of...

type of individual to even have that kind of savvy to say something like that publicly as brash

in that moment.

So I'm going to give him a little grace.

I think Dylan Gabriel actually played well.

He played well.

You know,

what he did those first few drives,

driving the team down the field, he made some really good throws.

He was poisoned.

He had command of the offense.

Obviously, the pick six for one, he has to see that.

There are two people, somebody ran the wrong route.

Two people in the same place never happens.

There always has to be spacing on all concepts when it comes to running routes.

So as a quarterback, you have to see that.

All right, there are two players

in the wrong place.

Don't make a bad play even worse by even throwing the ball.

You should just chuck that out of bounds because you're already outside the pocket anyway, new down.

So I think he's going to be fine.

Getting those reps in, and it's all about making plays at a quarterback position, but how consistent can you be?

And so when sometimes there's a chance you can make something out of nothing, and then sometimes you can't.

And

I thought he played okay.

He played really well.

I disagree with you.

I think he was taking a shot at Shador.

You think so?

When have we ever thought about the media, those beat riders as entertainers?

We've heard his coach, he was on the team when he said they're celebs.

Wait, but

you can't tie him and his coach together as if they have the same mind, as if they're one.

Tell me the time you've ever heard someone say, there are entertainers and there are competitors, and I'm here to compete.

Tell me the time.

Right.

Okay, listen,

let's say he's taking a shot at Shador, right?

At what point has he been an entertainer?

He's a football player as well.

But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested in doing.

And what?

I'm just curious.

Okay, tell me what you're curious about.

Well, you said he's more interested in entertaining Shador.

No, no, I'm not afraid of that.

I'm not saying he is.

I'm saying that's what people have said about Shadur.

About entertaining, about the antics.

Right, right.

Okay, I see where you're going.

I see where you're going.

Plus, we've heard this before.

And sometimes

it seeps out when you've been around people and they perceive other people as that.

If you're not careful, you'll repeat what you've heard someone say about someone.

Okay, I see where you're going with it.

Okay, okay, okay.

He didn't have to say that.

He didn't, all he says is, look, I'm here to compete.

Whatever happens, happen.

It doesn't matter if I'm first team, second team, third team, or fourth team.

My job is to compete.

Why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in of it?

I mean, everybody's entertainer.

That's what football is: entertainment.

Yeah, it's an an entertainment everybody's entertainers right

yeah you're right you're right it's an entertainment sport it's entertainment he might have been taking a shot at me

nah no i i know but he can't compete with you

he can't compete with you i disagree chad i don't know what you guys think but i think i i think he was trying to take a soda shot because if he wasn't why are you trying to clear it up why are you trying to clarify oh because obviously once once you say something like that it ruffles all the feathers and then then it comes back why you ruffling feathers

it ain't nothing you told you telling me in the chat it's nothing right his choice of words his choice of words it ruffled feathers because that's probably not what he actually meant i i honestly think it was an honest mistake because he's not let me stay with me real quick let me say something for you let me say something real quick he is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a tom brady he's not media savvy like a quarterback he's not a quarterback at the university of oregon no no no he's just not because if he was, he wouldn't have said what he said.

There's a way you go about doing things, and he hasn't learned it yet.

He's not savvy like that yet.

Sometimes you get caught up in the moment.

You play it well.

It's the middle of the game.

Oh, Joe, you got to realize now you're right there in that moment.

Sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low.

And you feeling good is, hey,

they're entertainers and I'm a competit and competitors and I'm here to compete.

Oh, and he's like, oh,

if he, if it meant nothing by that, nobody would have, nobody would have said anything about it.

Nobody would have thought, would not even have thought, would not even batted a night.

But

they took it.

Most people took it.

I believe the way he intended it.

That he's not, he's not fancy.

He's not entertaining.

He's a competitor.

I don't know what he thinks your doors there to do.

I believe two things.

They're not mutually exclusive.

Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor.

Michael Jordan, Kobe Brad, LeBron James, they're entertainers, but they're competitors.

Steph Curry, all that dancing and turning around, he's shooting shot, and he don't even look at it before it goes in.

That's entertainment, but he's a damn fierce competitor.

Yes, yes, yes.

So to try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true.

I believe you can do both of them, but I believe he took it.

Me, I could be wrong.

And if I'm wrong, I apologize.

But I believe he took a sort of shot at your door.

I don't, I'm, and honestly, you want, you want me to tell you the truth?

And I'm in no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel.

I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that out the blue.

That's how, that's how I know.

I mean, he doesn't, he doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college.

If he was that type of player, if he showed that kind of um,

like if it was, think about this, think about Johnny Manzell in college, right?

Yes.

Think about Baker Mayfield in college, right?

Now, if it was one of them that said something like that, I'd be like, yeah, he's definitely taking a shot at Shador.

But he's never shown any signs of being

as brave when has he ever been in competition huh when has he ever been in competition he wasn't gonna beat Justin Herbert out so he wasn't in competition when is the when was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition

yeah go ahead and sip your tea coffee whatever that is latte latte

that's a little latte yeah go ahead and sip that so but now back to our originally scheduled programming when was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition

exactly Yeah, you're right.

Because think about it.

How many yards has he passed for?

Do you know how many, you know how long you got to be in college to pass for the amount of yards that he's passed for?

Right.

Justin Herbert's been in the league how long?

Because didn't he take up with Justin Herbert?

In 2020.

So Dylan Gabriel has been in the league, he's been the starting quarterback since what, 21?

No, he came from Oklahoma.

Didn't Gabriel come from Oklahoma?

He transferred from Oklahoma.

So he's been, yeah, he he was in there.

He was in there.

So if he transferred from Oklahoma, are you telling me he ran from competition?

No, he ran to the money.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

One.

Two?

Oh, so he started at UCF.

Oh, he started at UCF.

For three years.

He was two years in Oklahoma, and then he spent one year at

Oregon.

Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Okay.

Okay, that's Bo Nicks.

That was Bo Nicks.

I apologize.

That was Bo Nicks that was there when the coach.

Remember when they played CU, Ocho?

Yeah.

And the quarterback, and

what did he say?

Instagram, some of them trying to get followers.

They tried to get clicks and followers, and we're trying to win football games.

Oh, that's right.

That was the Oregon coach.

I remember that.

That was the Morgan coach.

I apologize.

That wasn't Dylan Gabriel.

That was Bo Nicks that was his quarterback at the time when he said that.

Ah, see?

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

But again, for me, when was the last time Dylan Dylan Gabriel was at a quarterback competition?

He was three years at he was three years at UCF.

He was two years at Oklahoma and one year at what you saw.

So six years of six years of college football.

Six years.

Yeah, three years at UCF, two years at Oklahoma, one year at...

Yeah, how they got the only goddamn time.

Man, them guys be getting seven and eight years, OJo.

You see the guy 32

with a COVID year.

So he gave everybody an extra year if you wanted it.

Understandable, but listen, it's

what the chat said.

The chat, who did the chat believe he took a shot or no?

Let me look in the chat.

I ain't open my phone.

Hold on.

I'm curious to see what the chat would say.

What the chat would think.

They are saying

the chat is saying,

I believe he's throwing throwing shade.

I thought football was a brotherhood.

I never seen him do that.

Don't need it.

He lost in job.

Oh, he lost his job at OU.

He got hurt at you.

Oh, shoot.

But

it's like a mix.

It's a mix on how everybody feel.

Go ahead.

You want something?

Go ahead.

We're placing the poll up.

I just think the thing is, look.

And I think the thing is because, Ocho, what it is, is normally we don't get this.

We don't

normally be interviewing.

especially if you're playing during the course of a game.

Yeah, it's different.

Normally, they get you, they get you know, a half, you know, in the preseason game.

If you're not playing, they'll get you, hey, you get a few words.

Yeah, but it's excited, you know, got some work in, knocked up some of the knocked some of the dust, the rust off.

And now it's time for the younger guys and other guys to get an opportunity to show what they can do.

I'm sure the coaches are excited about that.

Hopefully, everybody came out injury-free.

We'll see after the game, so forth and so on.

But hell everybody out there to compete.

I mean, you do realize, like, in pro sports, it's all about, hey, it's all about competition, OJ.

Yeah, yeah, most definitely.

I think you're competing in your locker room or you competing against the other locker room, but you always in competition.

Yeah.

Hey, listen, every week.

Yes.

Every day.

Every day.

You know, I think he understands that.

That's why I said I'm giving him grace.

And obviously, I think you're giving him too much credit.

You giving him too much credit.

For those of the people that think he was actually taking a shot at Shadur, I think we're giving him too much credit to think he would come out and do something like that publicly or to even slip up or to even you know, I just don't I just don't think that's him.

Oh 88% said it was a shot 12% said it was not.

Oh shoot, boy.

Maybe y'all see it differently.

Maybe y'all see it different because I wouldn't state it like that.

Honestly.

You know, I mean, I mean, if you're going to say something, you know, if

there's no address on it,

it don't have no destination.

If there's no address on it, doesn't have a destination.

So,

I'm not throwing no hints and doing no riddles.

This ain't, you know, Dr.

Seuss or cat in the hat.

How about this here?

Come on, talk to me.

Coming out, how many front office people you think said exactly what Dylan Gabriel said?

He's more into entertainment and doing all this and all those antics than competing.

Okay, listen, I'm picking.

Hey, listen, I'm picking up what what you're putting down now.

Now you're making a little sense to me.

I'm picking up what you're putting down.

I don't like that because I don't like that because that's a part of the game.

Right.

It's always been a part of the game.

Right.

It's never been a part of the game at that specific position, though.

Correct.

That position is frowned upon.

They normally button up.

Always.

Always, because when you pick that position and you pay them the kind of money you pay them, not only you're representing the shield you represent the team and the organization as well you are the face of a franchise yes decade more right so i understand and now okay i'm with you now i'm with you i'm with you um you look at his dad yes he was the ultimate entertainer yes

but was one of the most one of the fiercest competitors

he believed that you know what prime time,

that's what you paid to see.

You paid me to see all the antics that, you know, hey, get it up.

You know, he dancing before they punt him or kick the ball to him.

He got the ball up behind.

He got his hand behind his head.

I got to entertain y'all.

It ain't good enough for me to just get a pick.

It ain't good enough.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's not enough.

You can get anybody can do that.

I want to be outgoing.

I want to be braggadocious.

I want you to know who and what I am.

Talk to me now.

Hey, that sounds familiar, don't it?

Yeah.

The stats, week one, Shadur was 14 of 23, 157, two touchdowns.

Dylan Gabriel was 13 of 18, 144

with

total yards, total yards.

Okay.

157 total yards, 144 for Gabriel.

Shadur had two touchdowns, no turnovers.

And Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers.

He had a pick and a fumble.

Look, he i thought he played like you said uh i thought he played a good game with the exception of the turnover that that bad interception in the beginning but but do you know the thing i noticed talk to me the first thing i say i see damn he tiny oh yeah he's small he's small

like oh my goodness like maybe baker height no hell nah he wish you man

man

huh

they list him at 5'11.

so then 5'10 and a quarter be like bryce young then too bryce young yes yeah they'd be about the same so obviously the fanski in the way that they would run a completely different offense if they had Dylan Gabriel starting, as opposed to Chador.

Yeah, you got to roll him out because he's small.

You need to put him outside so he can see, he can see clean pockets.

Yes, you got to roll the pocket, you got to roll the pocket, or boom, have him in the goddamn gun all the time, yeah,

one or the other.

But if

Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it, obviously, of the weaponry around him, I mean,

he should be able to succeed as well.

Yeah, a Baker, man,

I don't think people give Baker enough credit.

Baker is a really good thrower of the football.

You don't win the Heisman Trophy like he did.

Get that team to the college football playoff.

And now that he's in a system and now he's with coaches that allows him to be Baker.

He's been to Pro Bowls.

Baker is a better throw of the football

than I think we give him credit for or we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in a system and he's with coaches that believe in him and will allow him to be himself uh we'll see what the look dylan gabriel did throw four tons of yards i will not take that away from him over 16 000 yards i mean hell he played six years so he's he

i mean damn i'm like you ocho like damn six years

yeah

how old is he if he played six years he got to be like 24 already I didn't know that was possible.

No, oh, yeah, no, they got

he's 24, Ocho.

I was 21.

I turned 22 after I got drafted.

So he already, I mean, so,

hell, he Bryce Young age.

He might be older than Bryce.

Yeah, he might, he's Bryce Young age.

It's got to be Bryce Young's age.

Damn.

Hey, that's, that's funny.

That's, that's funny.

Like, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm baffled.

I'm a.

Hold on.

Let me see what you're baffled.

Are you baffled that he played six years and he's 24?

Or are you baffled that the chat believes, along with that I believe, that he was taking, she was throwing shade or taking a shot at your door?

Yeah,

all of the above or some of the above.

All of the above.

Because honestly, I think

y'all giving a motherfucker.

Dog it.

Y'all giving somebody too much credit.

You give them too much credit.

Too much credit to say I'm going to be brash enough to sit here and talk about someone that is on my team and take a shot and not,

and then, no,

that's giving him too much credit as if he's a mastermind and I'm media savvy and knowing how to do it.

That's the point.

He didn't think about it.

He didn't think clearly enough.

Sometimes, though,

sometimes we have to be careful of what we say around others because, guess what?

We get on here or we get on TV and then something that we talked about in the barbershop or we talking about,

it'll come out.

Because sometimes you forget where you are.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I think, listen,

young bull played, he played well.

He played good.

Outside of the interception for six and the fumble, in which it wasn't his fault on the fumble, because the guy, I'm looking at the replay.

I'm trying to figure out why the running back ain't got his goddamn man.

Open your arm.

What is you doing?

And he's looking straight ahead instead of, you know, like, come on, man.

Tighten up, man.

But outside of that, listen, hey, who they play next week?

Who the Browns play?

it's the last game oh man who you tell you ain't got to tell me twice i heard i heard you before and they normally play on they're probably gonna play on thursday right

saturday they play saturday

play saturday against the rams hey man listen all hands on deck

all hands on deck i'm not sure what they're gonna do

i'm not sure what they're gonna do I'm excited.

I'm excited because I love a healthy competition.

oh yeah for sure i love a healthy competition i do i i i don't believe they're keeping all these quarterbacks i don't ojo i don't well hey listen they're they're i mean

uh the saints never mind i ain't gonna do that i ain't gonna i ain't gonna be rude i'm not gonna be rude i'm not gonna be rude

do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks um honestly I'm gonna be honest with you.

You played the game a very long time.

I played the game a very long time.

i can't remember a scenario where there were four quarterbacks on the team exactly i can remember every scenario there was always three

always three so if there was an odd man out to me

thinking

uh

it was pick it yes if there was going to be one and that's simply maybe because of the injury right now and not being able to showcase not being able to showcase much

you know and no disrespect to kenny you know

you had opportunity at pittsburgh obviously in philly there's no you there's no way you're gonna start in front of jalen hurts but i mean

why would they why would they not keep yes baby yeah

i agree i i think

wait till the food comes for your food your chicken nuggets okay

four quarterbacks

new england kept four quarterbacks in 2000 but it's a different time now Right.

Coach Belichick said he was worried that if he released Tom, somebody was going to sign it.

Yes.

And that's that's exactly what would have happened.

You got to say, and you would have to sign him to the active, they would sign him to the active roster.

So he didn't want to run that risk.

So

they stashed four quarterbacks.

But I agree with you.

And

this situation, the way it's currently constructed,

I don't see a scenario where you keep four active quarterbacks.

Now, you might have two quarterbacks and one of the practice squad guy.

And then, you know, let's just say for the sake of argument, somebody get nicked.

you might bring him up, you might elevate it.

Yeah.

But to have four active quarterbacks,

and that means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or a swing offensive lineman or a rotational defensive lineman or a cornerback.

And one of those, and those guys are guys that can play special teams.

Those are the guys that can play the punt, punt, return, kick, kick, return.

Your quarterback's not doing that.

Right.

And so basically, if you keep that many positions,

he can only, he's only playing one position, where the other guys that I mentioned, the other positions, can play two positions.

Yeah.

So, because normally your guy that can play the guard, he can play the tackle if need be.

He can play the D tackle.

He can play the DN, but he could also be on field goal, field goal block, things of that nature.

Wide receipt.

Hold on, we talk about we don't know who they're going to take.

Hell, let's play goddamn devil's advocate then.

Let's play devil's advocate.

Hazlam already said what he got to say.

Andrew Berry knows that he's a genius in being able to get Shadora in the fifth round.

Yeah.

You Stefanski, who you want?

Whoever Haslam want.

Damn.

You for real?

Yeah.

Wait,

as a head coach, as a head coach, you're going to choose just because of whatever personal vendetta Hazler may have to say some of the things he said, you're going to put your job on the line for somebody you know isn't better than the person that he doesn't want?

If that man said, let me ask you a question.

When you got your, did you ever get, did you ever get a physical copy of your check or was your money always direct deposited?

Direct deposit, but I got the,

I went upstairs and always got the check.

I'll tell you what, when you went to OTAs and you got those, were those deposited?

Because last I checked, when I got my check, it always said the Denver Broncos Football Club, right?

And

that thing to the left, it said Pat D bowling.

Okay,

that thing said the Cleveland Browns Football Club, right?

Jimmy, probably Jimmy and D Hasler.

Now, you would ask me that again, which one do I want?

I got you.

Okay, I got you.

I got you.

Okay,

the fact that I sat here and forgot the person

that said what he said and the position of power that they were in,

my bad.

You're right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But again, maybe that's the problem.

You know, can I ask you a question?

Yeah.

My lack of knowledge and knowing Mr.

Hasn't like that.

How long has he been?

He brought it from the learner.

I think he brought it from,

he's been there probably,

what, 15 years, Ash?

I think he's on the Browns for about 15 years.

He's only for a minute.

Okay.

So he's been there 15 15 years.

At least at bare minimum.

15 years later, they're still looking for a what?

QB.

Okay.

But we supposed to take it.

Okay.

Don't worry about it.

You're right.

13 years.

You're right.

So he's been there since 2012.

Okay.

From the Lerner family, right?

Yeah.

But we're supposed to take his work.

Okay.

Well,

Joe, I mean,

in the Lemony Snickets series, a series of unfortunate events happened.

You You know, they thought they had their quarterback.

I went to the movie with Jim Carrey.

Pooh, my daughter,

she's read it.

She read the whole series.

That's what she got for Christmas one year.

They thought they had their quarterback, but it was a series of unfortunate events that, you know, shoulder Achilles and things of that nature.

But it's not easy.

It's not easy finding a quarterback.

Actually, it might be the the hardest thing to do in professional sports.

It is.

It is.

I think, you know what?

Can I say something real quick?

Go ahead.

Can I say something real quick?

I'm going to give you the three hardest things in life to do.

Hey, chat, y'all write this down too, chat.

I'm going to give y'all two seconds to grab a pen.

The three hardest things in life to do.

Number one:

is the NFL team finding a quarterback

that can be a franchise quarterback for 10 years or more.

Okay, that's one.

Number two,

trying to hit a baseball coming at you 95 miles an hour on a consistent basis.

That's two.

Okay.

Three,

try keeping a woman happy long term.

Outside of the honeymoon phase.

I knew you were going to say that last year.

them not three hardest things to do in life now you got some you got some some couples you know they be 15 oh we've been doing this 15 17 years yeah

yeah pretending you ain't fooling me you smile

and behind closed doors you're arguing i can't stand you

don't get me started well listen unc I sat next to a married couple today

they've been married 32 years so I I was nosy.

You had to ask them how y'all been together that long.

I had to be nosy i say well out of the 32 years you've been married

how many of those years have y'all been happy

huh you want to know how many years of those how many of those years she's been happy or they've been happy together how many

the first three

i don't think any couple can say they've been happy their days

if a couple tell you they've been married 10 years 15 years 20 years that they've been happy all the year no they're days now there are more days that I'm happy that I'm sad or disappointed.

I think,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but see, they got in depth.

I just don't have that kind of time because I don't want to switch topics to be on football.

I was just using that analogy, just bringing, bringing in context to it.

Yes.

And he said, the husband said to me and the wife,

they were in agreeance, and I was enjoying it.

It was like I was a therapist.

And I said, they said the honeymoon phase lasted for three years in the marriage.

And after that,

we have just been,

I forgot the word she used.

She used the word when, when you just, gosh, I forgot word she used.

Working, cohabitating.

Yeah, cohabit.

That's the word.

We're just cohabitating.

And I don't want to start over.

And I refuse to deal with anyone else.

So we, we, it, and it's lasted 32 years.

I'm like, well, God, well, god damn.

Well, congratulations to y'all.

But can I tell you what I got from that?

What?

I don't care because I'm getting married anyway.

I think the thing is, Ocho, and you see this a lot.

I mean, you see a lot of couples do this.

The kids get out, the kids get out of high school, the kids graduate college.

What do they do?

They split, they go to separate ways.

Oh,

because sometimes, because sometimes they look at it like, well, we ain't really got anything else to be together for.

Now the kids grown.

Hey, you think people stay together?

You think people stay together?

Yeah, for sure.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

What?

Uh-huh.

Hey, you, you're not talking not our people.

You're talking about the other side.

Sometimes our people even stay together.

You know what I'm saying?

Yes, people stay together for kids.

Yeah.

Hey.

Sometimes it's easier to stay together because

you can pool your money together.

It's going to be much harder apart.

You see this a lot in the professional settings.

Right.

What

women will tolerate in a professional setting when the money is good?

Oh, yeah, yeah, but hey, listen, come on, Andy.

The longer the money, no, no, no, wait, wait, hey, baby, what you doing?

Hold on, I'm plugging up for you.

Hold on, she unplugged my terminal lights off.

The longer the money, the longer the leash.

It's always been that way.

And if, and if, and if you,

depending on how serious it is, the longer you, the longer you're with you, and if you happen to marry them,

And then they're, no, no, you're good.

That's what you're crying for.

Oh, my goodness.

no you're good you're good i'm gonna plug it up the longer you with them and they ready to leave as long as they're taking something with them they're taking something with them they're not leaving without it not without that lifestyle

yeah i mean you know haggle it's um the game is the game it's always been the game you got to learn how to play it man that's all come on you want to charge it so all right come on shador week one 14 of 23 he had 157 total yards two touchdowns zero interceptions dylan gabriel week two 13 of 18 144 total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns, two turnovers, a pick six, and a fumble that was credited to him.

So,

and after the game, Stefanski, he refused to, like,

you know, I'm not doing this evaluation.

Well, who played this or who did better than that?

We'll go back, we'll look at the film, and we'll do our proper evaluation.

And we are, you know, it'll be interesting to see, chat,

when they hit the field on Monday or Tuesday when they're back at a regular practice,

what is the

sequence?

One, two, three, four.

What's the slot?

Where are they slotted?

Where are the quarterbacks slotted?

Maybe that tells us something.

Maybe that tells us nothing.

We don't know.

Who starts

week three?

How much playing time do they get?

Does he get in week three?

It's going to be very, very interesting

to see

um

their

eval um their valuation from week one to week two uh

i'm sure there are some things both guys did extremely really well uh some things they would like to have back i'm sure the coaches will you know give them a uh a rundown of what they would like to have seen them do what they'd like to see them do better uh but overall i think both guys played extremely well and and should feel proud of the performance that they gave i'm excited i'm excited i'm excited to see what happens i wouldn't want to be i wouldn't want to be uh browns personnel i wouldn't want to be safanski because listen depending on who they pick and who they choose the backlash that they're going to get it's going to be crazy right it's going to be crazy i'm not sure stefanski has any control over the fifth final 53.

well honestly if he does How is the head coach not going to have control over who he's going to put out there on the field?

He's the one that got to coach him.

Easy.

you think you think you think brian schotenheimer had control of the 53 in dallas oh what you think mccarthy

that's a different circus that's a different circus i think you i think are we trying to win are we trying to win

there's a difference you have to like come in with you have to be an andy reed to get that

mike tomlin you you got to put some years unless you're like highly sought after right

now

yeah.

Sean McVay.

Yes.

Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah, for sure.

You're naming all the coaches.

They're allowed to pick the players they want because they're successful.

Do you know why they're successful?

Because of the players that they have.

They're successful because ownership let them

stay out of their business.

Okay, I got you.

I got

go, Google.

That's your food.

That's your food.

Jim Harbaugh.

Right.

Oh, yeah, he's another one.

They're consistent winners, no matter where they are.

He came so sought after.

So you have to give up something besides money in order to tice him to leave the University of Michigan.

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Ben Johnson.

Came's highly touted.

He's offensive coordinator for the Lions, the Bears.

You got to give him something to get him to lead besides money.

And

so

it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns.

Ocho, Anthony Richardson Sr.

saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in week one against the Ravens.

Richardson completed six of 11 passes for 73 yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties.

He started five of six for 64 yards, leading a 90-yard touchdown drive with crisp passes.

Offensive penalties derailed the next two possessions,

including negating a 38-yard completion.

Daniel Jones

started the game and led a field-go drive, completing 7 of 11 for 101 yards.

Colts head coach Shane Steichen strongly suggested after the game that a decision is imminent

in his team's month-long quarterback battle.

I've seen obviously three weeks weeks of it.

So I like to have a decision here shortly.

I'm very close.

I'll say that.

I'm very, very close.

Ocho,

who's week one starter?

I mean,

honestly, the way it's looking, you know, it's Daniel Jones.

It's Daniel Jones.

I think even if even if...

Anthony Richardson's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's what they wanted to go with all along anyway.

I think there have been issues there with him the first two years.

Obviously, they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially with year three always being

the maker break year.

Yes.

Showing any improvement.

I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach is talking, I don't like it.

Then you signed Daniel Jones.

One year, 14 million, that much?

One year.

They definitely were going in the other direction regardless of what

Anthony Richard would have done in camp or what he would have done in the game.

Like, how much better are you going to be from the first two years coming into the third?

Yeah, I agree with you.

There's only so much work.

I mean, it's not going to be a miracle.

You look a certain way year one, you look a certain way year two, and then all of a sudden year three, you're going to come back and just be, oh, my goodness.

Yeah, but that's what they were expecting.

They were expecting,

they were expecting a monumental jump.

Because, oh, you in your third year in the system.

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

Understandable.

Understandable.

And he got hit in the face with a blitz that he should have got hit in the face with as a rookie, not as a third year vet.

Yeah.

Okay.

Right.

And so, look, like I said, Ocho, we're not there.

Chad, if I was there, if I was there and observe in practice, I'd be able to tell you who I think should be the starting quarterback.

But unfortunately, all the thing I can do is base it on what we've seen thus far.

And look, and I don't think it's like

it's a situation where, like, oh, this is, oh, this is etched in stone.

I don't think it's one of those situations.

But I think it's a situation where, you know, like you said, at some point in time, you're going to have to give one of these guys the majority of the reps, Ocho.

You can't keep splitting 50-50.

You already know where they're going.

You know the game they're playing.

You knew the game they were playing when they brought Daniel Jones in for that amount of money.

For that amount of money on a one-year deal.

Yeah.

I already knew the game game that was playing.

What, baby?

Okay, okay, I'm gonna call Papa for you.

She wants

so you got Daniel Jones.

This is interesting.

Chat, y'all think it's gonna be Daniel Jones, or y'all think it's gonna be uh Anthony Richardson Sr.

It's not like either one of the guys just blowing you away.

I mean,

she, where are you?

You, you up, you upstairs?

yeah yeah she's uh she's

all right i'm gonna just come

come to 1417

14 14 17.

pulling it up all right i want to see

all right papa coming to get you

Because you're not letting daddy work.

Daddy working.

I don't get to see daddy that much to begin with.

So I don't care about you working.

Now, that's what I think about you working.

Oh, here it is.

Oh, I'm coming.

Okay.

They played the Packers today.

Were you able to watch all the games?

No.

Yeah.

They need to put the games on one channel.

Well, of all, first of all, you know, it's the preseason.

So basically, you're going to get only the, only the, you'll be able to watch the local game.

Right.

So,

but I guess, you know,

they're going to have it fixed where you'll be able to,

once you play, pay all that money, it's going to cost you about $2,000 to watch all the games.

That much?

You know.

Yeah, you got to get every streaming service.

Everything is on one service now,

right?

Or am I tripping?

I thought that was the whole point.

You tripping?

Oh, man.

I'm excited, bro.

So, Daniel Jones started the game, huh?

Or Ed the Richardson started the game.

I think Daniel Jones did start.

He was 7 of 11 for 101 yards.

Anthony Richards was 6 of 11 for 73 yards.

I think that's Riley Leonard, 7 of 12 for 64 yards.

Daniel Jones started.

He started.

Okay, he started game two.

Anthony Richardson started game one.

Okay.

Okay.

So they went back and forth to make sure each person got the opportunity.

And he says, yeah,

he says,

I've seen obviously three weeks of it.

So I like to have a decision here shortly.

And I'm very close.

I'll say that.

I'm very close.

I think he's seen enough.

Damn.

I think he has his mind made up that who he wants to start.

I'm leaning towards you.

Why bring a guy in to make $14 million dollars and to happen to be the backup yeah

totally totally

it's not like daniel jones had his pick of choice of where you're going i mean not for that kind of money no absolutely not but that that lets you know

how in dire need of a quarterback that the colts were yes

you saw you you saw what you saw you saw what you saw in new york and say you know what we're gonna bring you in to compete because we don't think our quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet but hell you didn't figure it out when you were in new york in new york but we think you're gonna come here and all of a sudden something's supposed to change

so two wrongs don't make it right

twofolds i think they really want because if they bring a quarterback in for a million let's just say for the sake of argument on yo they bring a backup in and they're gonna pay him four million dollars

You're not gonna take that serious.

Man, I ain't going on no bench for no guy making 14 for 4 million.

You bring a guy in making 14.

14 now you know they serious 14 ain't sitting on no bench i can tell you that 14 is not sitting on no bench they talk about quarterback controversy they talk about quarterback battle there is no quarterback battle if the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind of money on a one-year deal he probably making more than anthony richardson this year what's anthony richardson base salary this year He's only in his third year.

Hunk, it's not that much.

Yeah, because

his contract is fully guaranteed, but he he got probably the most of his money of the signing bonus so he probably got 25 million dollars of the signing bonus don't you

so andrew richards will probably make it what eight million dollars this year

right 2025 cash

four million yeah 3.8.

he making 3.8

So one guy making 3.8 million, the other guy making 14 million.

Do you think they're going to put the guy that's making 14 million on the bench?

No.

You know what I don't like, though?

Hold on.

Is his money guaranteed?

Did they guarantee his money?

Richardson?

No.

Jones.

Yo, he knows Anthony Richardson got 34 million guaranteed.

His money guaranteed.

He got 22 million assigned, so he's going to get that final 12.

You know what?

I'm mad because

Anthony Richardson

is supposed to be

like Josh Allen.

Let me get this out.

Go ahead.

Anthony Richards is supposed to be like Josh Allen.

Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like

our new version of Cam Newton.

Yes.

Like, that's the kind of potential.

And

like, I don't know at what point what went wrong or what's happened if he's not focused, if he's not locked in.

After this year,

after this year,

Anthony Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for one of those $250, $300 million deals.

Yes.

That is

what

I saw in him coming out of Florida.

Based on the eye test and what I'm looking at, all the intangibles does everything right, except

on the feed.

I was shocked.

I was shocked that he moved up the draft boards.

I like, but see, Ocho, go back and watch the tape.

Right.

You see, you see what happened?

Now, you see how some people watch watch tape?

Right.

And if somebody goes by the combine, if you look at his, if you didn't know anything about it and all you did was watch the combine, you understand.

Now go back and watch his tape at Florida.

Hey, well, yeah, you did tell me that.

You didn't tell me that.

Go back and watch his tape.

You didn't tell me that.

But if everything.

Those measurables were so hard to pass up, though, Ocho.

6-4, 245, running 4-4, can throw the ball 80 yards.

Which is what I said.

With the measurable, you take the measurables, right?

The reason that they went up to go grab in the draft.

And if the measurables

put up with the play on the field after this year three season, they coming to see you.

You finna tear the house down.

I agree.

You're finna tear the house down.

I agree.

That's how I'm visualizing it.

And I can't believe I don't know at what point.

And if you don't get it here, if you get beat out by our brother Daniel Jones.

Yeah.

Then

a day like that, like in what I'm visualizing, if I was Anthony Richardson, it's not happening.

It's not happening.

Yeah, they would never, they're not bringing Daniel Jones in.

Because I'm going to do it.

You do everything.

You do what you're supposed to do.

You're not the last in and the first out.

So that's it.

That's it, but that's in a bad message there, Ocho.

Yeah.

I don't know, man.

You think maybe his focus is somewhere else and not just.

Don't start me lying.

I don't know enough about it.

I don't know enough about it.

I like young bull, man.

I like young bull.

I hope things work out for him over there, man.

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In fact, the three products were designed to work together to be 15 times more more effective at reducing bacteria buildup in six weeks, starting from week one, compared to a non-antibacterial fluoride toothpaste and flat-trim toothbrush.

Take control of your oral health and get the Colgate Total active prevention system today so you can be dentist ready.

Visit shop.colgate.com/slash total.

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