BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 1: Dillon Gabriel throwing SHADE?! + Giants QB room

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Speaker 20 Giants rookie first-round draft pick Jackson Dart through two preseason games. Game one against the Bills, 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown.

Speaker 20 Today against the Jets, 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 20 Russell Russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson.

Speaker 20 I do see a scenario

Speaker 20 Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 19 absolutely. And Jameis the number three, because I don't think there is a number four.
The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has.

Speaker 20 You think they keep all four? You think they keep all three of them?

Speaker 19 Yeah.

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Speaker 20 Yeah,

Speaker 20 how much money does Jameis have guaranteed?

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Speaker 19 All right. Okay.
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Speaker 20 Oh, Joe. Damn.

Speaker 19 What happened?

Speaker 19 What? What? What happened?

Speaker 20 I'm trying to like.

Speaker 20 I mean,

Speaker 20 looking at it,

Speaker 20 Russ is the starter. Right.
You're developing,

Speaker 20 you're developing Jackson Dart. Last week he started number three.
This week he starts number two.

Speaker 19 I wouldn't look into that. You're looking too much into it.
You're looking too much into it.

Speaker 19 I think the ball,

Speaker 19 they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back. Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back.

Speaker 19 I think rookies not being thrown to the Wolves, some are good at it.

Speaker 20 No, no, no. No, Russ is a starter.
I believe Russ starts.

Speaker 19 Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 20 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 20 I'm looking at the situation with Jameis.

Speaker 19 Oh, he's not going nowhere.

Speaker 19 He's not going nowhere.

Speaker 19 They're going to keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dart will more so, obviously, be developing, developing and he would be the practice squad quarterback.

Speaker 19 Oh no.

Speaker 19 I don't think they're throwing young bull out there to the wolves like that as a rookie.

Speaker 20 No, I'm not saying no. He's not

Speaker 20 Russ starting.

Speaker 20 Russ is going to be the day one starter.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 20 But if Russ is the day one starter and then you have a rookie as the backup, do you really keep the veteran as the third guy? Absolutely.

Speaker 19 That's what I'm asking you absolutely because the the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the goddamn excuse me than just being on the field

Speaker 19 he adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback you you don't you don't let a locker room presence like that go you just don't they do it all the time

Speaker 19 but there's only one jameis winston no i know there's only one

Speaker 20 and they let him go in in New Orleans when he's more than that. They let him go in Cleveland when he was more than that.

Speaker 19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 So it's not

Speaker 20 like it used to be, Ocho, because the salaries are exploding so much. Right.
And you used to be able to keep a veteran guy.

Speaker 19 Right. Because the numbers were low.

Speaker 19 The numbers were low. They were favorable.

Speaker 20 They were favorable. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 19 I got you. I got you.
You're right.

Speaker 20 But it's going to be very interesting, but I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks. Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today.

Speaker 20 Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series. Fields went 003 when targeting wide out Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State.

Speaker 20 The lack of a legit wide receiver, number two, to compliment

Speaker 20 Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking.

Speaker 20 I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver, OJ.

Speaker 19 Wait, who's the number two in New York?

Speaker 20 Alan Lazard. Is he hurt?

Speaker 19 Chad, who's the number two in New York?

Speaker 19 Wait, matter of fact, you got Brees Hall and um,

Speaker 19 what's Alan first name?

Speaker 19 God, what's Alan's first name? Maybe Derrick Henry

Speaker 19 Braylon.

Speaker 19 It's Josh Reynolds.

Speaker 20 Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard.

Speaker 19 Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds.

Speaker 20 You remember Josh Reynolds? You played with the Rams. He was in Detroit.

Speaker 19 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 19 I mean, I mean,

Speaker 20 I like it, but you know what, Ocho? When you that dog and they gave you 30 million, damn, what's on the other side? Yeah, go get open.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 20 they pay you 30 million

Speaker 19 when you the number one right you get no excuses there are none no zero how would they pay you that kind of money no you're number one for a reason you're number one because two three and four can't do what you can do right

Speaker 19 that i don't think that i don't i don't think was getting open the issue It wasn't the issue. It's just the passes might have been.

Speaker 20 Well, I saw two routes. We ran a stop route.
Guy was right there. I think he ran another route.
The guy was, you know,

Speaker 20 see,

Speaker 19 that's why I don't like them damn joint practices, stuff like that.

Speaker 20 You're gonna see,

Speaker 19 you know, seen it all week.

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Speaker 19 I don't, I don't like that, I don't like that because Garrett Wilson is a route runner. I don't know if you paid attention

Speaker 19 to him, yeah, he's a route, he's a route runner.

Speaker 19 So, I mean, I think they're going to be all right. It's

Speaker 19 a little too soon, the panic, you know, whatever. Justin Fields is finally getting his turn.

Speaker 19 He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team.

Speaker 19 This is your team.

Speaker 19 You have a head coach that is going to do right by you.

Speaker 19 You got to make the most of this opportunity. And I mean, it's preseason.
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Speaker 20 So the game you have today

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Speaker 19 oh you to two years three yeah four yeah yeah this is this is your make it this is your make it or break a year too

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Speaker 20 We gotta get back to the Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 3 Dylan Brooks. Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 20 He had eight of his first nine passes, threw a pick six, bad decision, but was later credited with a fumble on a botched handoff. After the game, He made some very, very interesting comments.

Speaker 20 He said, There are entertainers and there are competitors, and my job is to compete.

Speaker 20 He tried to clarify later at the presser, saying he meant the media are the entertainers and a competitor, and he's a competitor, but and he wasn't taking a shot at Shador, but the damage was done.

Speaker 20 Everybody knows what he meant by that, because you know why? I'm gonna let you take off. You remember at Oregon what the head coach said when they played Colorado?

Speaker 19 Right. Oh, quarterback.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the quarterback? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 20 All right, go ahead, Ocho, go ahead.

Speaker 19 Listen, I don't, I don't, hey, Chad, I don't want to do him like that.

Speaker 19 I want to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace, a little, a little understanding, because I don't think a

Speaker 19 college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he's competing with for a job.

Speaker 19 I just don't see.

Speaker 19 I don't see it. I see it as

Speaker 19 him when he says entertainers in the aspect where he said it's the media. I'm not sure how he views the media as the entertainers, but the way the media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus.

Speaker 19 And all he does is compete. I see it from that sense.

Speaker 19 I don't see him as, I'm not even sure if he's that type of person, that type of individual to even have that kind of savvy to say something like that publicly as brash

Speaker 19 in that moment. So I'm going to give him a little grace.

Speaker 19 I think Dylan Gabriel actually played well. He played well.
You know,

Speaker 19 what he did those first few drives,

Speaker 19 driving the team down the field. He made some really good throws.
He was poised in the pocket. He had command of the offense.
Obviously, the pick six for one, he has to see that. There are two people.

Speaker 19 Somebody ran the wrong route. Two people in the same place never happens.
There always has to be spacing on all concepts when it comes to running routes. So as a quarterback, you have to see that.

Speaker 19 All right, there are two players

Speaker 19 in the wrong place. Don't make a bad play even worse by even throwing the ball.
You should just chuck that out of bounds because you're already outside the pocket anyway. anyway, new down.

Speaker 19 So that, that, I think he's going to be fine. Getting those reps in, and it's all about making plays at a quarterback position, but how consistent can you be?

Speaker 19 And so when sometimes there's a chance you can make something out of nothing, and then sometimes you can't. And

Speaker 19 I thought he played, he played okay. He played, he played really well.

Speaker 20 I disagree with you. I think he was taking the shot at Shador.

Speaker 19 You think so?

Speaker 20 When have we ever thought about the media, those beat riders as entertainers? We've heard his coach, he he was on the team when he said they're celebs.

Speaker 19 Wait, but

Speaker 19 you can't tie him and his coach together as if they have the same mind, as if they're one.

Speaker 20 Name the time you've ever heard someone say, there are entertainers and there are competitors, and I'm here to compete. Tell me the time.

Speaker 19 Right. Okay, listen,

Speaker 19 let's say he's taking a shot at Shador, right? At what point has he been an entertainer? He's a football player as well.

Speaker 20 But we've heard people say that's what he's more interested in doing.

Speaker 19 And what?

Speaker 19 I'm just curious.

Speaker 20 Okay, tell me what you're curious about.

Speaker 19 Well, you said he's more interested in entertaining Shador.

Speaker 20 No, no, I'm not saying he is. I'm saying that's what people have said about Shadur,

Speaker 20 about entertaining, about the antics.

Speaker 19 Right, right.

Speaker 19 Okay, I see where you're going. I see where you're going.

Speaker 20 Plus, we've heard this before. And sometimes

Speaker 20 it seeps out when you've been around people and they perceive other people as that. If you're not careful, you'll repeat what you've heard someone say about someone.

Speaker 19 Okay, I see you going with it.

Speaker 19 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 20 He didn't have to say that. He didn't, all he says, look, I'm here to compete.
Uh, whatever happens, happened. It doesn't matter if I'm first team, second team, third team, or fourth team.

Speaker 20 My job is to compete. Why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in of it? All right, I mean, everybody's entertainer.
That's what football is: entertainment.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it's an entertainment.

Speaker 20 Everybody is entertainers.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 19 Yeah, you're right. You're right.
It's an entertainment sport. It's entertainment.
He might have been taking a shot at me. Shit.

Speaker 20 Nah.

Speaker 19 No, I know, but

Speaker 20 he can't compete with you.

Speaker 20 He can't compete with you. I disagree, Chad.
I don't know what you guys think.

Speaker 20 But

Speaker 20 I think he was trying to take a solo shot. Because if he wasn't, why are you trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clarify?

Speaker 19 Oh, because obviously once you say something like that, it ruffles all the feathers. And then it comes back.

Speaker 20 Why are you ruffling feathers on your? It ain't nothing.

Speaker 20 You're telling me in the chat it's nothing.

Speaker 19 Right. His choice of words.
His choice of words, it ruffled feathers because that's probably not what he actually meant. I honestly think it was an honest mistake because he's not.

Speaker 19 Let me stay with me real quick. Let me say something for you.
Let me say something real quick. He is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a Tom Brady.
He's not media savvy like a.

Speaker 19 A quarterback?

Speaker 20 He's not. A quarterback at the University of Oregon?

Speaker 19 No, no, he's just not. Because if he was, he wouldn't have said what he said.
There's a way you go about doing things and he hasn't learned it yet. He's not savvy like that yet.

Speaker 20 Sometimes you get caught up in the moment. You play it well.
It's the middle of the game. Oh, Joe, you got to realize now you're right there in that moment.

Speaker 20 Sometimes when emotion is high, logic is low. And you feeling good is, hey,

Speaker 20 they're entertainers and I'm a competitor and competitors and I'm here to compete.

Speaker 20 Oh, and he's like, oh,

Speaker 20 if he, if it meant nothing by that,

Speaker 20 nobody would have said anything about it. Nobody would have thought, would not even have thought, would not even battered a night.

Speaker 20 But

Speaker 20 they took it. Most people took it.

Speaker 20 I believe the way he intended it.

Speaker 20 That he's not, he's not fancy. He's not entertaining.
He's a competitor. I don't know what he thinks your duo is there to do.
I believe two things. They're not mutually exclusive.

Speaker 20 Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer. Yes.
But he was a competitor.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 20 Michael Jordan, Kobe Brad, LeBron James, they're entertainers, but they're competitors.

Speaker 20 Steph Curry, all that dancing and turning around, he's shooting the shot and he only look at it before it goes in. That's entertainment, but he's a damn fierce competitor.

Speaker 19 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 20 So to try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true. I believe you can do both of them, but I believe he took it.
Me, I could be wrong.

Speaker 20 And if I'm wrong, I apologize, but I believe he took a sort of sort of shot at your door.

Speaker 19 I do.

Speaker 19 I don't, I'm, and honestly, you want me to tell you the truth? And I'm in no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel. I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that out the blue.

Speaker 19 That's how I know. I mean,

Speaker 19 he doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college. If he was that type of player, if he showed that kind of um

Speaker 19 like if it was, think about this: think about Johnny Manzale in college, right? Yes, think about Daker Mayfield in college, right?

Speaker 19 Now, if it was one of them that said something like that, I'd be like, Yeah, he's definitely taking a shot at Shador, but he's never shown any signs of being

Speaker 19 as bragging.

Speaker 20 When has he ever been in competition, huh? When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't going to beat Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition.

Speaker 20 When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?

Speaker 20 Yeah, go ahead and sip your tea, coffee, whatever that is, latte. Latte.
That's a little latte.

Speaker 19 That's a little latte.

Speaker 20 Yeah, go ahead and sip that. So

Speaker 20 now back to our originally scheduled programming. When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?

Speaker 20 Exactly. Yeah, you're right.
Because think about it. How many yards has he passed for?

Speaker 20 Do you know how many, you know how long you got to be in college to pass for the amount of yards that he's passed for? Right. Justin Herbert's been in the league how long?

Speaker 20 Because didn't he take up with Justin Herbert?

Speaker 20 In 2020. So Dylan Gabriel has been in the league, been he's been the starting quarterback since what, 21?

Speaker 20 No, he came from Oklahoma. Didn't Gabriel come from Oklahoma? He transferred from Oklahoma.
So he's been, he, yeah, he was in that. He was in there.

Speaker 19 So if he transferred from Oklahoma, are you telling me he ran from competition?

Speaker 20 No, he ran to the money.

Speaker 19 Oh, okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 20 One. Two?

Speaker 20 Oh, so he started at UCF.

Speaker 20 Oh, he started at UCF for three years. He was two years at Oklahoma, and then he spent one year at

Speaker 20 Oregon.

Speaker 19 Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 20 That's okay. That's Bo Knicks.
That was Bo Nicks. I apologize.
That was Bo Nicks that was there when the coach. Remember when they played CU Ocho? Yeah.

Speaker 20 And the quarterback and say some, he's, what did did he say instagram someone who tried to get followers they're trying to get clicks and followers and we're trying to win football games oh that's right that was the organ coach i remember that was the organ coach

Speaker 20 i apologize that wasn't dylan gabriel that was bow nicks that was his quarterback at the time when he said that ah see okay okay okay okay but you gotta but again for me When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?

Speaker 20 He was three years at UCF.

Speaker 20 He was two years at oklahoma and one year at uh what's it so six years so in six years of college football six years yeah three years at ucf two years of oklahoma one year at uh

Speaker 20 how they got the only goddamn time man man them guys be gotten getting seven and eight years old you see the guy 32

Speaker 20 with covered year so it gave everybody an extra year if you wanted it understandable understandable but listen it's

Speaker 20 what the chat saying the chat well who did the chat believe he took a shot or no let me look in the chat I ain't no, I ain't open the phone.

Speaker 19 Hold on.

Speaker 19 I'm curious to see what the chat would say, what the chat would think.

Speaker 19 They are saying,

Speaker 19 The chat is saying,

Speaker 19 I believe he's throwing shade.

Speaker 19 I thought football was a brotherhood. I never seen him do that.
Don't need it. He lost in job.
Oh, he lost his job at OU. He got hurt at you.

Speaker 19 Oh, shoot.

Speaker 19 But

Speaker 19 it's like a mix. It's a mix on how everybody feels.
Go ahead. You want something? Go ahead.

Speaker 20 We're placing the poll up. I just think the thing is,

Speaker 20 look, and I think the thing is, because, Ocho, what it is, is normally we don't get this. We don't

Speaker 20 normally be interviewing,

Speaker 20 especially if you're playing during the course of a game. Yeah, it's different.

Speaker 20 Normally they get you a half, you know, in the preseason game, if you're not playing, they'll get you, hey, get a few words.

Speaker 20 Yeah, but it's excited, you know, got some work in, knocked up some of the knocked some of the dust, the rust off.

Speaker 20 And now it's time for the younger guys and other guys to get an opportunity to show what they can do. I'm sure the coaches are excited about that.
Hopefully everybody came out injury-free.

Speaker 20 We'll see after the game, so forth and so on.

Speaker 20 But hell, everybody out there to compete.

Speaker 20 I mean, you do realize, like, in pro sports, it's all about, hey, it's all about competition, Ocho.

Speaker 19 Yeah, yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 20 I think you're competing in your locker room or you're competing against the other locker room, but you're always in competition. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Hey, listen, every week.

Speaker 20 Yes.

Speaker 20 Every day.

Speaker 19 Every day.

Speaker 19 You know, I think he understands that. That's why I said I'm giving him grace.
And I think you're giving him too much credit. You're giving him too much credit.

Speaker 19 For those of the people that think he was actually taking a shot at Shadur, I think we're giving him too much credit to think he would come out and do something like that publicly. Or to even slip up.

Speaker 19 You know,

Speaker 19 I just don't think that's him.

Speaker 20 Oh, 88% said it was a shot, 12% said it was not.

Speaker 19 Oh, shoot, boy. Maybe y'all see it differently.

Speaker 19 Maybe y'all see it different because I wouldn't pay it like that, honestly. You know, I mean, I mean, if you're going to say something, you know, if

Speaker 19 there's no address on it,

Speaker 19 it don't have no destination. If there's no address on it, it doesn't have a destination.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 19 I'm not throwing no hints and doing no riddles. This ain't, you know, Dr.
Seuss or cat in the hat.

Speaker 20 How about this here? Come on, talk to me.

Speaker 20 Coming out, how many front office people you think said exactly what Dylan Gabriel said?

Speaker 20 He's more into entertainment and doing all this and all those antics than competing.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 19 Listen, I'm picking up. Hey, listen, I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Speaker 19 Now you're making a little sense to me.

Speaker 19 I don't like that because I don't like that because that's a part of the game.

Speaker 20 Right.

Speaker 19 It's always been a part of the game. Right.
It's never been a part of the game at that specific position, though.

Speaker 20 Correct.

Speaker 20 At that

Speaker 19 position is frowned upon.

Speaker 20 They normally button up.

Speaker 19 Always. Always.
Because when you pick that position and you pay them the kind of money you pay him,

Speaker 19 not only are you representing the shield, you represent the team and the organization as well. You are the face of a franchise.
Yes. Decade more.

Speaker 19 So I understand.

Speaker 19 Okay, I'm with you now. I'm with you.
I'm with you.

Speaker 20 You look at his dad. Yes, he was the ultimate entertainer.

Speaker 19 Yes.

Speaker 20 But was one of the most one of the fiercest competitors.

Speaker 20 He believed that, you know what, prime time,

Speaker 20 that's what you paid to see.

Speaker 20 You paid me to see all the antics that, you know, hey, get it up. You know, he dancing before they punt him or kick the ball to him.
He got the ball up behind. He got his hand behind his head.

Speaker 20 I got to entertain y'all.

Speaker 20 It ain't good enough for me to just get a pick.

Speaker 20 It ain't good enough. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no. That's not enough.

Speaker 20 You can get anybody who can do that.

Speaker 20 I want to be outgoing. I want to be braggadocious.

Speaker 20 I want you to know who and what I am.

Speaker 19 Talk to me now.

Speaker 19 That sounds familiar, don't it?

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 20 The stats, week one, Shadua was 14 of 23, 157, two touchdowns. Dylan Gabriel was 13 of 18, 144

Speaker 20 with,

Speaker 20 oh, total yards, total yards. Okay.
157 total yards, 144 for Gabriel.

Speaker 20 Shadur had two touchdowns, no turnovers.

Speaker 20 And Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He had a pick and a fumble.

Speaker 20 Look,

Speaker 20 I thought he played, like you said, I thought he played a good game with the exception of the turnover, that bad interception. In the beginning.

Speaker 20 But do you know the thing I noticed? Talk to me. The first thing i say i see damn he tiny oh yeah he's small he's small

Speaker 19 oh my goodness like maybe baker height

Speaker 20 no hell nah he wish you man

Speaker 20 man huh they list him at 5'11. so they're 10 and a quarter be like bryce young then too bryce young yes

Speaker 19 yeah they'd be about the same so obviously the fans key in in the way that they would run a completely different offense if they had dylan gabriel starting as opposed to chador yeah you got to roll him out because he's small.

Speaker 20 You need to put him outside so he can see

Speaker 20 clean pockets. Yes.

Speaker 19 You got to roll the pocket. You got to roll the pocket.
Or, boom, have him in the goddamn gun all the time.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 One or the other. But if Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it, obviously

Speaker 19 of the weaponry around him, I mean,

Speaker 19 he should be able to succeed as well.

Speaker 20 Yeah, a Baker, man.

Speaker 20 I don't think people give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower of the football.
You don't win the Heisman Trophy like he did. Get that team to the college football playoff.

Speaker 20 And now that he's in a system and now he's with coaches that allows him to be Baker. He's been to Pro Bowls.

Speaker 20 Baker is a better throw of the football

Speaker 20 than I think we give him credit for or we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in a system and he's with coaches that believe in him and will allow him to be himself.

Speaker 20 We'll see.

Speaker 20 Look, Dylan Gabriel did throw 4 ton of yards. I will not take that away from him.
Over 16,000 yards. I mean, Helly played six years, so he's.

Speaker 20 I mean, damn. I'm like you, Ocho, like, damn, six years.

Speaker 20 Yeah,

Speaker 20 so how old is he? If he played six years, he got to be like 24 already.

Speaker 19 I didn't know that was possible.

Speaker 20 No, oh, yeah, no, they got.

Speaker 20 He's 24, Ocho.

Speaker 20 I was 21. I turned 22 after I got drafted.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 20 So he already, I mean, so

Speaker 20 helly, Bryce Young age.

Speaker 20 He might be older than Bryce. Yeah, he might, he's Bryce Young's age.
It's got to be Bryce Young's age.

Speaker 19 Damn. Hey, that's, that's funny.
That's, that's funny. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm,

Speaker 19 I'm baffled.

Speaker 20 I'm a baffled.

Speaker 20 Hold on. Let me, let me see what you're baffled.
Are you baffled that he played six years and he's 24?

Speaker 20 Or are you baffled that the chat believes, along with that I believe that he was taking she was throwing shade or taking a shot at your door. Yeah, that

Speaker 20 all of the above, or some of the above, listen, all of the above.

Speaker 19 Because honestly, I think y'all, y'all get, y'all giving the motherfucker,

Speaker 19 y'all giving somebody too much credit. You're giving too much credit, too much credit to say, I'm gonna be brash enough to sit here and talk about someone

Speaker 19 that is on my team and take a shot, not

Speaker 19 and then no,

Speaker 19 that's giving him too much credit as if he's a mastermind and I'm media savvy and knowing how to do it.

Speaker 20 That's that point.

Speaker 20 he didn't think about it he didn't think clearly enough sometimes oh choke sometimes we have to be careful of what we say around others because guess what we get on here or we get on tv and then something that we're talking about in the barbershop or we're talking about

Speaker 20 it'll come out because sometimes you forget where you are yeah

Speaker 19 yeah i tell you i think listen young young bull played he played he played well outside he played good

Speaker 19 outside of the interception for six and the fumble in which it wasn't his fault on the fumble, because the guy, I'm looking at the replay.

Speaker 19 I'm trying to figure out why the running back ain't got a goddamn man. Opi arm.
What is you doing?

Speaker 19 And he's looking straight ahead instead of, you know, come on, man. Tighten up, man.
But outside of that, listen, hey, who do they play next week?

Speaker 20 Who the Browns play?

Speaker 20 It's the last game.

Speaker 19 Oh, man, who you tell? You ain't got to tell me twice.

Speaker 19 I heard you before.

Speaker 20 And they normally play on, they're probably going to play on Thursday, right?

Speaker 20 Saturday. They play Saturday?

Speaker 20 Play Saturday against the Rams.

Speaker 19 Hey, man, listen. All hands on deck.

Speaker 19 All hands on deck. I'm not sure what they're going to do.

Speaker 19 I'm not sure what they're going to do. I'm excited.

Speaker 19 I'm excited because I love a healthy competition.

Speaker 20 Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 19 I love a healthy competition.

Speaker 20 I don't believe they're keeping all these quarterbacks. I don't, Ocho.
I don't.

Speaker 19 Well, hey, listen, they're, they're, I mean,

Speaker 19 uh, the Saints, never mind. I ain't gonna do that.
I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna be rude. I'm not gonna be rude.
I'm not gonna be rude.

Speaker 20 Do you believe they're gonna keep all these quarterbacks?

Speaker 19 Honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you. You played the game a very long time.
I played the game a very long time.

Speaker 19 I can't remember a scenario. where there were four quarterbacks on the team.

Speaker 20 Exactly.

Speaker 19 I can remember every scenario. There was always three.

Speaker 19 always three so if there was an odd man out to me

Speaker 19 thinking

Speaker 19 uh

Speaker 20 it was

Speaker 19 pick it yes if there was going to be one and that's simply maybe because of the injury right now and not being able to showcase not being able to showcase much

Speaker 19 you know and no disrespect to kenny you know

Speaker 19 you had opportunity at pittsburgh obviously in philly there's no you there's no way you're going to start in front of jalen hurts but i mean

Speaker 19 why would they why would they not keep yes baby yeah

Speaker 20 i agree i i think

Speaker 19 wait till the food comes for your food your chicken nuggets okay

Speaker 20 four quarterbacks

Speaker 20 new england kept four quarterbacks in 2000 but it's a different time now right coach belichick said he was worried that if he released tom somebody was going to sign him yes and that's exactly what would happen you got to say and you would have to sign him to the active you they would sign him to the active roster so he didn't want to run that risk so they felt they they stashed four quarterbacks.

Speaker 20 But I agree with you. And

Speaker 20 this situation, the way it's currently constructed,

Speaker 20 I don't see a scenario where you keep four active quarterbacks. Now, you might have two quarterbacks and one of the practice squad guy.

Speaker 20 And then, you know, let's say for the sake of argument, somebody get nicked, you might bring him up. You might elevate him.
Yeah.

Speaker 20 But to have four active quarterbacks,

Speaker 20 and that means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or a swing offensive lineman or a rotational defensive lineman or a cornerback.

Speaker 20 And one of those, and those guys are guys that can play special teams. Those are the guys that can play the punt, punt, return, kick, kick, return.

Speaker 20 Your quarterback's not doing that.

Speaker 20 And so basically, if you keep that many positions,

Speaker 20 he can only he's only playing one position where the other guys that I mentioned, the other positions, can play two positions.

Speaker 20 So, So, because normally your guy that can play the guard, he can play the tackle if need be.

Speaker 20 He can play the D tackle, he could play the DN, but he could also be on field goal, field goal block, things of that nature.

Speaker 19 Hold on, we talk about we don't know who they're gonna take it. Hell, let's play goddamn devil's advocate then.

Speaker 19 Let's play devil's ass advocate.

Speaker 19 Haslim already said what he got to say.

Speaker 19 Andrew Berry knows that he's a genius in being able to get Shadura in the fifth round.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 You Stefanski,

Speaker 19 who you want?

Speaker 20 Whoever Haslam won't.

Speaker 19 Damn.

Speaker 19 You for real?

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Wait,

Speaker 19 as a head coach, as a head coach, you're going to choose just because of whatever personal vendetta Haslam may have to say some of the things he said, you're going to put your job on the line for somebody you know isn't better than the person that he doesn't want.

Speaker 20 If that man said, let me ask you a question: when you got your, did you ever get, did you ever get a physical copy of your check, or was your money always direct deposited?

Speaker 19 Direct deposit, but I got the uh, I went upstairs and always got.

Speaker 20 I'll tell you what, when you went to OTAs and you got those with those deposited, because last I checked, when I got my check, it always said the Denver Broncos Football Club, right?

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 20 that thing to the left, it said Pat D. Bowling.

Speaker 19 Okay,

Speaker 20 that That thing said the Cleveland Browns Football Club.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 20 Jimmy, probably Jimmy and Dee Hasler.

Speaker 20 Now, you want to ask me that again. Which one do I want?

Speaker 19 I got you.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 19 I got you. I got you.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 19 The fact that I sat here and forgot the person

Speaker 19 that said what he said and the position of power that they were in.

Speaker 19 My bad. You're right.
Yeah.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 But again, maybe that's the problem you know can i ask you a question yeah with my lack of knowledge and knowing mr hasn't like that how long has he been

Speaker 20 he brought it from uh the learner i think he brought it from uh um he's been there probably what 15 years ash i think he's on the browns for about 15 years he's only for a minute okay so he's been there 15 years at least at bare minimum 15 years later they're still looking for a what

Speaker 20 qb

Speaker 19 okay but we supposed to take it. Okay.
Don't worry about it. You're right.

Speaker 20 13 years. You're right.
So he's been there since 2012. Okay.

Speaker 20 From the Lerner family, right?

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 But we supposed to take his work. Okay.

Speaker 20 Well,

Speaker 20 Joe, I mean,

Speaker 20 in the Lemony Snickets series, a series of unfortunate events happened. You know, they thought they had the quarterback.

Speaker 20 I went to the movie with Jim Carrey. My daughter, Pooh, my daughter,

Speaker 20 she's read it. She read the whole series.
That's what she got for Christmas one year.

Speaker 20 They thought they had their quarterback, but it was a series of unfortunate events that, you know, shoulder Achilles and things of that nature.

Speaker 20 But it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback.
Actually, it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports.

Speaker 19 It is. It is.

Speaker 19 I think, you know what?

Speaker 19 Can I say something real quick?

Speaker 20 Go ahead.

Speaker 19 Can I say something real quick? I'm gonna give you the three hardest things in life to do.

Speaker 19 Hey, chat, y'all write this down too, chat. I'm gonna give y'all two seconds to grab a pen.
The three hardest things in life to do.

Speaker 19 Number one

Speaker 19 is the NFL team finding a quarterback

Speaker 19 that can be a franchise quarterback for 10 years or more. Okay, that's one.

Speaker 19 Number two,

Speaker 19 trying to hit a baseball coming at you 95 miles an hour on a consistent basis.

Speaker 19 That's two.

Speaker 20 Three,

Speaker 19 try keeping a woman happy long term

Speaker 19 outside of the honeymoon phase.

Speaker 20 I knew you was going to say that last year.

Speaker 19 Uncle them the three hardest things to do in life. Now you got some, you got some, some couples, you know, they be 15, oh, we've been doing this 15, 17 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 19 Yeah. Pretending.
You ain't fooling me.

Speaker 20 You smile for the picture.

Speaker 19 And behind closed doors, you're arguing. I can't stand you.

Speaker 19 Don't get me started. Well, this I sat next to a married couple today.

Speaker 19 They've been married 32 years. So I was nosy.

Speaker 20 You had to ask them how y'all been together that long.

Speaker 19 I had to be nosy. I say, well, out of the 32 years you've been married,

Speaker 19 How many of those years have y'all been happy?

Speaker 19 You want to know how many years of those, how many of those years she's been happy? Are they been happy together?

Speaker 20 How many?

Speaker 19 The first three.

Speaker 20 I don't think any couple can say they've been happy. They're days.

Speaker 20 If a couple tell you they've been married 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, that they've been happy all the year, no, they're days. Now, there are more days that I'm happy that I'm sad or disappointed.

Speaker 20 I think.

Speaker 19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, they got in depth.
I just don't have that kind of time because I don't want to switch topics because we on football. I was just using that analogy.
Right.

Speaker 19 Just bringing in context to it. Yes.
Couple, 30. And he said, the husband said to me and the wife,

Speaker 19 they were in agreeance, and I was enjoying it. It was like I was a therapist.
And I said, they said the honeymoon phase lasted for three years in the marriage. And after that,

Speaker 19 we have just been.

Speaker 19 I forgot the word she used. She used a word when you just, gosh, I forgot words she used.

Speaker 20 Working, cohabitating.

Speaker 19 yeah cohabit that's the word we're just cohabitating and I don't want to start over and I refuse to deal with anyone else so we it and it's lasted 32 I'm like well God well god damn well congratulations to y'all but can I tell you what I got from that what

Speaker 19 I don't care because I'm getting married anyway

Speaker 20 I think the thing is Ocho and you see this a lot I mean you see a lot of couples do this

Speaker 20 the kids get out the kids get out of high school the kids graduate college what they do they split they go to separate ways.

Speaker 19 Oh,

Speaker 20 because sometimes, because sometimes they look at it like, well, we ain't really got anything else to be together for. Now, the kids grown.

Speaker 19 Hey, you think people stay together? You think people stay together?

Speaker 20 Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yes, yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 20 What? Uh-huh.

Speaker 19 Hey, you're not talking, not our people. You're talking about the other side.

Speaker 20 Sometimes our people even stay together.

Speaker 20 Yes, people stay together for kids. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Hey.

Speaker 20 Sometimes it's easier to stay together because

Speaker 20 you can pool your money together. It's going to be much harder apart.

Speaker 20 You see this a lot in the professional settings.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 20 What

Speaker 20 women will tolerate in a professional setting when the money's good?

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey,

Speaker 19 listen, come on, Amy.

Speaker 19 The longer the money that... No, no, no, wait, wait.
Hey, baby, what are you doing? Hold Hold on, I'll plug it up for you. Hold on.
She done unplugged my turn my lights off.

Speaker 19 The longer the money, the longer the leash. It's always been that way.
And if, and if, and if you,

Speaker 19 depending on how serious it is, the longer you're with you, and if you happen to marry them,

Speaker 19 and then they're, oh no, no, you're good. What you're crying for?

Speaker 19 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 19 No, you're good. You're good.
I'm going to plug it up. The longer you with them and they ready to leave, as long as they're taking something with them, they're taking something with them.

Speaker 19 They're not leaving without it, not without that lifestyle.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I mean, you know, Haggle.

Speaker 19 The game is the game. It's always been the game.
You got to learn how to play it, man. That's all.
Come on. You want to charge it? So, all right, come on.

Speaker 20 Shador, week one, 14 of 23. He had 157 total yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions.

Speaker 20 Dylan Gabriel, week two, 13 of 18, 144 total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns, two turnovers to pick six, and a fumble that was credited to him. So,

Speaker 20 and after the game, Stefanski would like, he refused to like,

Speaker 20 you know, I'm not doing this evaluation. Well, who played this or who did better than that? We'll go back, we'll look at the film and we'll do our proper evaluation.

Speaker 20 And we'll, you know, it'll be interesting to see, chat,

Speaker 20 when they hit the field on Monday or Tuesday when they're back at a regular practice, what is the Scottish, what is the

Speaker 20 sequence?

Speaker 20 One, two, three, four.

Speaker 20 What's the slot? Where are they slotted? Where are the quarterbacks slotted?

Speaker 20 Maybe that tells us something. Maybe that tells us nothing.

Speaker 20 We don't know.

Speaker 20 Who starts

Speaker 20 week three?

Speaker 20 How much play-in time do they get? Do does he get in week three?

Speaker 20 It's going to be very, very interesting to see

Speaker 20 their

Speaker 20 eval, their valuation from week one to week two.

Speaker 20 I'm sure there are some things both guys did extremely, really well, some things they would like to have back. I'm sure the coaches will give them a

Speaker 20 rundown of what they would like to have seen them do, what they'd like to see them do better.

Speaker 20 But overall, I think both guys played extremely well and should feel proud of the performance that they gave.

Speaker 19 I'm excited. I'm excited.
I'm excited to see what happens. I wouldn't want to be, I wouldn't want to be Brown's personnel.
I wouldn't want to be Tefanski.

Speaker 19 because listen depending on who they pick and who they choose the backlash that they're going to get it's going to be crazy right it's going to be crazy i'm not sure if safanski has any control over the fifth final 53.

Speaker 19 well honestly if he does how is the head coach not going to have control over who he's going to put out there on the field and he's the one got to coach them

Speaker 20 easy

Speaker 20 you think you think you think ryan schotenheimer had control over the final 53 in dallas oh what you think mccarthy that's a different circus that's a different circus i think you i think are we trying to win are we trying to win

Speaker 20 there's a difference you have to like come in with you have to be an andy reed to get that uh mike commlin you you got to put some year it's unless you're like highly sought after right

Speaker 20 now

Speaker 20 yeah uh

Speaker 20 Sean McVay.

Speaker 19 Yes.

Speaker 20 Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 20 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 19 You're naming all the coaches. They're allowed to pick the players they want because they're successful.
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Speaker 20 stay out of their business.

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Speaker 19 Right. Oh, yeah, he's another one.

Speaker 19 They're consistent winners, no matter where they are.

Speaker 20 He came so sought after. So so you have to give up something besides money in order to tice him to leave the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 20 Ben Johnson

Speaker 20 came highly touted. He's offensive coordinator for the Lions, the Bears.
You got to give him something to get him to lead besides money.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 20 so

Speaker 20 it's going to be very, very interesting to see. how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns.
Ocho, Anthony Richardson Sr.

Speaker 20 saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in week one against the Ravens.

Speaker 20 Richardson completed six of 11 passes for 73 yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties. He started five of six for 64 yards, leading a 90-yard touchdown drive with crisp passes.

Speaker 20 Offensive penalties derailed the next two possessions,

Speaker 20 including negating a 38-yard completion. Daniel Jones started the game.

Speaker 20 started the game and led a field goal drive, completing 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Colts head coach Shane Steichen strongly suggested after the game that a decision is imminent

Speaker 20 in his team's month-long quarterback battle. I've seen obviously three weeks of it, so I like to have a decision here shortly.
I'm very close. I'll say that.
I'm very, very close. Ocho,

Speaker 20 who's week one starter?

Speaker 19 I mean,

Speaker 19 honestly, the way it's looking, you know, it's Daniel Jones. It's Daniel Jones.

Speaker 19 I think even if even if Anthony Richardson's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's what they want to go with all along anyway. I think there have been issues there with him the first two years.

Speaker 19 Obviously, they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially with year three always being the maker break year.

Speaker 20 Yes.

Speaker 19 Showing any improvement. I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach is talking.
I don't like it. Then you signed Daniel Jones.
One year, 14 million, that that much? One year.

Speaker 19 They definitely were going in the other direction regardless of what Anthony Richard would have done in camp or what he would have done in the game.

Speaker 19 Like, how much better are you going to be from the first two years coming into the third?

Speaker 20 Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 19 There's only so much work. I mean, it's not going to be a miracle.

Speaker 19 You look a certain way year one, you look a certain way year two, and then all of a sudden year three, you're going to come back and just be, oh, my goodness.

Speaker 20 Yeah, but that's what they were expecting. they were expecting they were expect they were expecting uh a monumental jump

Speaker 20 because ocho you in your third year in the system right okay

Speaker 20 okay understandable understanding and he got hit in the face with a blitz that he should have got hit in the face with as a rookie not as a third year vet yeah okay right

Speaker 20 and so look like i said ocho we're not there Chad, if I was there, if I was there and observe in practice, I'd be able to tell you who I think should be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 20 But unfortunately, all the thing I can do is base it on what we've seen thus far. And look, and I don't think it's like

Speaker 20 it's a situation where like, oh, this is, oh, this is etched in stone.

Speaker 20 I don't think it's one of those situations.

Speaker 20 But I think it's a situation where, you know, like you said, at some point in time, you're going to have to give one of these guys the majority of the reps, Ocho. You can't keep splitting 50-50.

Speaker 19 You already know where they're going. You know the game they're playing.
You knew the game they were playing when they brought Daniel Jones in for that amount of money.

Speaker 19 For that amount of money on a one-year deal.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 I already knew the game they were playing. What, baby?

Speaker 19 Okay, okay. I'm going to call Papa for you.

Speaker 20 So you got Daniel Jones. This is interesting.
Chad, y'all think it's going to be Daniel Jones or y'all think it's going to be Anthony Richardson Sr.

Speaker 20 It's not like either one of the guys just blowing you away. I mean,

Speaker 19 she, where are you? You, you, you upstairs?

Speaker 19 Yeah, yeah, she's uh, she's

Speaker 19 all right. I'm gonna just come

Speaker 19 come to 1417

Speaker 19 1417. Pull it it up.

Speaker 20 All right,

Speaker 19 All right, Popeye coming to get you.

Speaker 19 Because you're not letting daddy work. Daddy working.

Speaker 20 Oh, I didn't even say that.

Speaker 20 I don't get to see daddy that much to begin with, so I don't care about you working.

Speaker 20 Now, that's what I think about you working.

Speaker 20 Who did?

Speaker 20 Oh, here it is.

Speaker 19 Papa coming, okay.

Speaker 20 They played the Packers today.

Speaker 19 Were you able to watch all the games?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 19 They need to put the games on one channel.

Speaker 20 Well, first of all, Joe, you know it's the preseason. So basically, you're going to get

Speaker 20 you'll be able to watch the local game.

Speaker 19 Right.

Speaker 20 So.

Speaker 20 But I guess, you know,

Speaker 20 they're going to have it fixed where you'll be able to, once you play, pay all that money, it's gonna cost you about two thousand dollars to watch all the games that much, you know.

Speaker 20 Yeah, but you got to get every streaming service.

Speaker 19 No, everything's no, everything is on one service now,

Speaker 19 right? Or am I tripping? I thought that was the whole point.

Speaker 20 You tripping,

Speaker 19 oh man,

Speaker 19 I'm excited, bro.

Speaker 20 So, So Daniel Jones started the game, huh?

Speaker 20 Or Edith Richardson started the game.

Speaker 19 I think Daniel Jones did start.

Speaker 20 He was 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Edward Richards was 6 of 11 for 73 yards.
I think that's Riley Leonard, 7 of 12 for 64 yards.

Speaker 20 David Jones started. He started.
Okay. He started game two.
Anthony Richardson started game one. Okay.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 19 So they went back and forth to make sure each person got the opportunity.

Speaker 20 And he says, yeah, I think

Speaker 20 he says,

Speaker 20 I've seen obviously three weeks of it. So I like to have a decision here shortly, and I'm very close.
I'll say that. I'm very close.
I think he's seen enough.

Speaker 19 Damn.

Speaker 20 I think he has his mind made up that who he wants to start.

Speaker 20 I'm leaning towards you.

Speaker 20 Why bring a guy in to make $14 million and to happen to be the backup?

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 19 Totally.

Speaker 20 Totally.

Speaker 20 It's not like Danny Jones had his pick of choice of where he's going to. I mean, not for that kind of money.

Speaker 19 No, absolutely not. But that lets you know

Speaker 19 how in dire need of a quarterback that the Colts were. Yes.

Speaker 19 You saw what you saw.

Speaker 19 You saw what you saw in New York and say, you know what, we're going to bring you in to compete because we don't think our quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet.

Speaker 19 But hell, you didn't figure it out when you were

Speaker 19 in New York, but we think you're going to come here and all of a sudden something's supposed to change.

Speaker 19 So two wrongs don't make it right.

Speaker 20 Two folds.

Speaker 20 I think they really want, because if they bring a quarterback in for a million, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, they bring a backup in and they're going to pay him $4 million.

Speaker 20 You're not going to take that seriously. Man, I ain't going on no bench for no guy making $14 for $4 million.
You bring a guy in making $14.

Speaker 20 Now you know they serious.

Speaker 19 14 ain't sitting on the bench. I can tell you that.

Speaker 19 14 is not sitting on the bench. They talk about quarterback controversy.
They talk about quarterback battle.

Speaker 19 There is no quarterback battle if the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind of money on a one-year deal.

Speaker 20 He probably making more than Anthony Richardson this year. What's Anthony Richardson base salary this year?

Speaker 19 He's only in his third year, huh? It's not that much.

Speaker 20 Yeah, because he got a book. His contract is fully guaranteed, but he got probably the most of his money in the signing bonus.
So he probably got $25 million in the signing bonus, don't you?

Speaker 20 So Anthony Richardson probably making what? $8 million this year? So it's $34 guaranteed for the 22.

Speaker 20 Right. 2025 cash.

Speaker 20 4 million?

Speaker 20 Yeah, 3.8. He making 3.8.

Speaker 20 So one guy making 3.8 million, the other guy making 14 million. Do you think they're going to put the guy that's making 14 million on the bench?

Speaker 19 No.

Speaker 19 You know what I don't like, though?

Speaker 20 Hold on. Is his money guaranteed? Did they guarantee his money? Richardson? No.

Speaker 20 Jones. Yo, he know that Anthony Richardson got 34 million guaranteed.
His money guaranteed.

Speaker 20 He got 22 million assigned, so he's going to get that final 12.

Speaker 19 You know what?

Speaker 19 I'm mad because that's Anthony Richardson

Speaker 19 is supposed to be

Speaker 19 like Josh Allen.

Speaker 19 Let me get this out. Go ahead.
Anthony Richards is supposed to be like Josh Allen. Anthony Richardson is supposed to be like

Speaker 19 our new version of Cam Newton.

Speaker 20 Yes.

Speaker 19 Like, that's the kind of potential. And, and, and, and,

Speaker 19 like, I don't, I don't know at what point what went wrong or what's happened if he's not focused, if he's not locked in. After this year,

Speaker 19 after this year,

Speaker 19 Anthony Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for one of those $250, $300 million deals.

Speaker 20 Yes.

Speaker 20 After this year,

Speaker 19 that is

Speaker 19 what

Speaker 19 I saw in him coming out of Florida based on the eye test and what I'm looking at. All the intangibles does everything right, except

Speaker 20 on the field. I was shocked.

Speaker 20 I was shocked that he moved up the draft boards. I like, but see, Ocho,

Speaker 20 go back and watch the tape,

Speaker 19 right?

Speaker 20 You see, you see what happened? Now, you see how some people watch tape, right? And then somebody goes by the combine.

Speaker 20 If you look at his, if you didn't know anything about him, and all you did was watch the combine, you understand. Now, go back and watch his tape in Florida.

Speaker 19 Hey, well, yeah, you did tell me that. You did tell me that.

Speaker 20 Go back and watch his tape.

Speaker 19 You did tell me that.

Speaker 20 But if everything

Speaker 20 was so hard to pass up, though, Ocho, 6-4, 245, running 4-4, can throw the ball 80 yards,

Speaker 19 which is what, which is what I said. With the measurables, you take the measurables, right? The reason that they went up to go grab in the draft.
And if the measurables

Speaker 19 put up with the plate on the field after this three year three season they coming to see you you finna tear the house down

Speaker 19 i agree you're gonna tear the house down i agree that's how that's how i'm visualizing it and i can't but i can't believe i don't know at what point and if if if you don't get it here if you get beat out by brother daniel jones yeah

Speaker 19 Then a day like that, like in what I'm visualizing, if I was Anthony Richardson, it's not happening

Speaker 20 it's not happening well yeah they would they would never they're not bringing daniel jones in because i'm gonna do you do everything you do what you're supposed to do you you're not the you're not the last in and the first out so that's it that's sent a bit that's in a bad message there ocho yeah

Speaker 20 i don't know man you think maybe his focus is somewhere else and not just don't start me like i don't know enough about it i don't know enough about it

Speaker 19 i like i like young bull man i like young bull

Speaker 19 i hope hope things work out for him over there, man.

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