BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 2: Bears are LEGIT?!+ Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break #1 overall pick, Cam Ward's preseason so far, the Chicago Bears looking like contenders and Giants RB, Tyrone Tracy Jr. joins the show! Plus, much more!

0:00 - Takeaways from Cam Ward's preseason

9:46- Bears legit contenders?

25:19 -  Bengals vs Commanders Recap

30:27 - Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show 

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Beat the Falcons 23-20. Cam Ward finishes 2-7 for 42 yards.
Should have had one more completion. He should have been 3-7 at the bare minimum, Ocho.
Van Jefferson. But from what you saw, what did you like about what you saw from Cam Ward? I mean, listen, a continuation of what he did the first preseason of the game.
Obviously, he was only 2-7, but there was a drop of Van Jefferson on that over route that he should have had.

That was a beautiful throw. I've seen a lot of people in the comments when

I mentioned the throw, being that it was

overthrown. I'm like, what are you talking about?

Yeah, that's a catchable ball.

For a professional receiver?

Yeah, that's a very catchable ball, and it

was a dime. Outside of that,

a few drops. He had a few

drops. Other than that, it was good.
It was good. People will look at the stat line and say, ah, it doesn't look the same as opposed to how he did in the first game.
But still, he was the same, calm, poised, and control of everything. And he made good decisions with the ball.
Yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. My thing when I'm watching is his poise and patience in the pocket, him not getting rattled, and he making the right reads, Ocho.
I think that's the biggest key. I sit back and watch these young guys come into this league, this grown man league, just to see how they adapt and how they are in the pocket, whether it's Cam Ward or should do it.
I enjoy watching those guys play, man. They look like they in for a pretty good season.
Yeah. What I will say, too, Ang and Joe, what we have to be cautious about is it is preseason.
These defenses are very, very vanilla, and the quarterbacks haven't got hit yet. I know they look polished based on what we've seen so far, but when you get hit upside the head a few times and you get the jitters a little bit, will they still be able to have that same calmness, that same relaxness, that same poise under pressure when you've been hit or sacked a couple times? You can play fast, but not in a hurry.
I think the thing is that you have more time than you think. And a lot of times when rookies come in, they speed themselves up.
And it's normally their second year, Joe and Ocho, you heard people say this all the time. All of a sudden, the game slowed down for me.
And that's what you want to have happen. You want the game to slow down.
You don't want the game to speed you up. Absolutely.
Play fast, but don't play in a hurry. I like Cam Ward's poise.
I agree with you, Joe. I like his poise.
I thought he was very deliberate. Yeah, he had some very unfortunate situation where the guy dropped the ball.
A professional wide receiver. Got to make that catch.
Now, if you're in high school, you don't make that catch. Okay, fine.
Bro, you A. But as a professional, a guy that's getting paid to catch the football, those are the type of – that's what you're paid for.
Yeah. That's what you're paying for.
You're paying, you know, to make the difficult ones.

I mean, hey, you're going to make the routine.

You've got to make enough of the routine ones.

But every once in a while, you've got to come down with a –

you've got to help your quarterback out.

He's not going to always be able to hit you between the numbers.

And so now this is your opportunity to help him out.

But I like what I saw from Cam Ward.

I really did.

Atlanta fell behind, but, you know, Austin, Easton, Easton Stick. He came in and threw the ball because, you know, Penix Jr.
didn't play at all. That's the only thing, Ocho.
I was like, damn, they don't let these guys play at all. Yeah.
I mean, Ocho, I couldn't even imagine. Could you imagine standing on the sideline, the first, second preseason game, Ocho, and not even dressed out? Hey, you know how I am.
You've heard enough stories about how I was. I'm practicing.
Excuse me, not practicing. I'm playing in the preseason.
I don't care. I do not care.
Joe, I had my coach every preseason game. I forced Coach Lewis to call timeouts in the preseason.
Joe, just to get me out the game. Man, I need these reps.
I need to get acclimated to game speed. Game speed.
I don't care if we can practice 100 times. Joe, we can practice 100 times.
I agree. It's different.
I agree. And I wanted my body to get accustomed to that as fast as possible before week one came along but you know why joe go ahead joe go ahead i think uh a lot of the guys especially top guys who don't really play a lot in the preseason okay ojo is it because they take all the rips and snaps in practice and they don't want to hold them into the game we don't like uh we normally we normally break it down jo.
We normally have 50 to 60 plays, practices, scripted. And of those 10 plays, so we go, I don't know how y'all did, Ocho, but we did 10 plays.
The starters would probably take six to seven of those snaps. Now, maybe there's a maybe a repeat, something didn't go well, and Mike would say, okay, I want to see that again with the starters.
But you're going to take at least seven – the starters are going to take at least, at bare minimum, seven of those reps. And then the other three will get divided up and, okay, fine.
So you're going to get the lion's share of the rep. The reason why it's different, Ocho, is because you've got to realize come game time, your pads are taped down.
Now they feel tighter. A lot of guys got all their pads in their pants.
They're going to feel tighter. So I needed to get accustomed to that because in practice, ain't nobody taping no jerseys.
Right. No.
We taping our jerseys down. I mean, come game time, we taping, hey, them things tight.
Yeah. Tight, tight And, go ahead.
Y'all know the fans. They ready to see it.
I wanted to see Penance get out there a little bit and spin it, you know, at least for a quarter, Uncle Ocho. But, you know, I know he got some high-powered weapons.
He's talked a lot, you know, in this past week about how high-powered they are offensively and what he expects out of that Falcons core with that wide receiver core that he has. And I think a lot is going to determine on how quick he can pick up on things and how soon can he adapt to being like one of the top quarterbacks in his league.
All I know is this. If I'm going big game hunting, the first time I fire my weapon, ain't going to want to see that big game.
I'm going to get some shots off her. I know y'all don't hunt, so excuse me, but I'm just trying to give you an analogy.
You understand what I'm saying. If I'm going big game hunting, the first time I fire that shot is not going to see when I'm looking at something.
I'm going to make sure this thing is capable of firing.

In case you have to make some adjustments.

Exactly.

Maybe my aim.

Maybe there's some adjustments that I need to make.

But I'm not going

into the game

without having seen these guys do something.

OTAs

and minicabs and training camp and joint practices, all that's fine and good. But that ain't the game.
That rhythm and timing. That ain't the game.
Even joint practices are different than the actual game. Your mindset is different than the actual game.
Absolutely. And so that's, and like I said, I think my last year last year mike said hey you you're not going um but i want you to come in and get some work so i came in got my 15 21 10s he said hey just warm up hey get you a good workout in and that's it for the evening because i want to take a look at these other guys and see what i got i already know what i got with you 84 okay cool but i had them But, Ocho, I had them play three games.
Hell, I played the first game, the second game, the third game. So, what the hell is he looking for in the fourth game that I haven't done in the first three that he needed to see in game four? So, I get that.
But these guys, Ocho, they don't play game one. They don't play game two.
I'm like, and some of them don't play at all. The preseason is a lot shorter nowadays, right? Yeah, it's only three games.
It's only three games. And even in the NBA, it's a lot shorter.
We used to play at least 10 games. So I think it's a lot shorter, like five or six games now.
Yeah, man. These guys waiting, man.
That rhythm and time, you can't substitute that, bro. You can't substitute them game reps, man.
You can't substitute that. You can go and practice and run as many drills as you want.
It just don't add up. Nah.
No, sir. Woo! Yeah, but that's the difference now, Ocho.
That's not what we have. Ocho, we might have been able to get a cup squeeze a couple more years, Ocho.
I took some years in preseason. You was like this? Hey, I played 14 years.
I played in the preseason every year at least three to four games. Yeah.
Ocho, by your bulljabbing, that's two seasons. Hey.
I could have got six feet. No, I was good.
Right, huh? I was good, but I like what I saw with Cam Ward. I think he's going to be fine as long as they can protect him.
I like the receivers, but sometimes you got to make tough catches for your quarterback. Sometimes you got to help him out.
You ask the quarterback to help you out, I would always say, John, just protect me. I'm going to make an attempt, even when I'm going over the middle, give me an opportunity because I want to take the shot in my back, not in my face.
Because if worse come to worse, Ocho, I'm going to jump like this here, over the middle and get a shot in the back. I ain't really trying to do this like this here.
And get a shot in the back. Yeah, most definitely.
I'll take the shot in the back, Joe. I ain't trying to get that shot in the back.
I ain't really trying to do this like this here. And get that shot.

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.
So I'll take the shot in the back, Joe. I ain't trying to get that face on.
Kind of like what, you remember when Antoine Bolden got hit? Yeah. Remember that shot he took and he came back? You don't want that shot in the face.
You want that shot in the back. So I always tell your quarterback to protect you.
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Ocho the Bears beat the Bills 38-0. Today is the first time the Bears fans can see what Caleb Williams can do

in Ben Johnson's offense.

The opening drive, Williams led on a seven-play 92-yard drive.

Williams completed five of six, 97 yards.

36 of those yards came on a touchdown pass to Olamide Zaccheaus.

Yeah.

Man. I know it's the preseason, don't you? And I don't want to get too far in front of this, but the Bears look good.
Why was I just getting ready to say that? I was getting ready to say the same thing. Listen, I know what Caleb Williams can do.
I've seen him at USC. I've seen flashes of him last year without someone like Ben Johnson at the helm to help him develop.
Without Ben Johnson's creativity from an offensive standpoint, understanding what he can do and help Caleb get to that next level at the quarterback position, I want to talk about that goddamn Luther Burden. That goddamn Luther Burden would look good, bro.
That goddamn rookie at receiver, bro, I've never met you before, but you look good tonight. Obviously, in the preseason, people say, oh, it's preseason.
Don't get too high. Don't get too low.
But you look good, boy. I've been watching the past two weeks.
This week, I mean, it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball. I'm not sure why he's running with the twos and threes.
What you mean? So he's going to play in front of Roman Dunze and DJ Moore? No, no, no. No, obviously, I mean, three receivers said.
Okay, Zaccheaus is in the slot. Ooh, that's A.
A. They got some decisions to make over there offensively because he looked good.
Now, maybe when they go five wide and you saw they ran a lot of tight ends, they had Loveland, they had Cole Komet.

Now, he is a multiple set.

He'll run a lot of different sets.

He'll go two tight.

He'll go three wide.

He'll go five wide.

He'll go empty.

He'll put his backs out.

But this offense looked really – I thought overall, I thought they played well.

I thought the defense got after the Bills.

I thought the offense moved the ball, whether it was Williams or Bajet. I guess that's how you say his name.
He came in with 13-22 for 196 and a touchdown. I thought Williams was unbelievable.
The opening drive to go 92 yards on five or six passes. He had 107 yards.
They had over 500 yards of offense. And like I said, I don't want to get too far in front of myself, but they look good.
Right, right, right. But they did look good and they're going to be a lot better because they have a guy that has an offensive mind because you got a quarterback and you need somebody that's imaginative, that has an imagination to put him in position and say, hey, son, I want you to be you.
I'm going to put you in the best position possible. The offensive line is much improved.
The offensive line is much improved. The Bears look good.
Chad, y'all, look, I know it's preseason. It's only the second game of preseason.
And I really don't want to get a speeding ticket. But let's just say I'm going 40 to 35.
I ain't going 55 60 but i'm going i'm i'm a little over the speed limit i i'm liking what i'm seeing from the bears yeah and i'm gonna say this again i think i said on either last night show maybe i said it sometime last week the same teams that are always in contention are going to be in contention this year chat i'm going on a limb. I'm going to say it before the season even gets here.

The two teams that I think are the dark horses to surprise everybody and make a run and having a playoff appearance,

the Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers.

I'm telling you, people might in the chat, you might laugh.

People might say, yeah, right, whatever, whatever.

I'm telling you, watch. And when it happens, don't call me Ultradamus.
I just know. I just understand how things are going to play out.
I'm excited. I'm excited for the football season, man.
You don't understand. Yeah, it's right around the corner.
It's right around the corner. We're, what, September 4th? Yeah, Thursday night, Dallas and the Eagles.
So we're about three weeks away. Dallas and the Eagles.
Well, we're two weeks from Thursday, right? So two weeks from Thursday. Okay, that's not bad.
What the hell are we supposed to do in between that time? We'll find something to talk about. We'll talk about you scoring zero points in the big three.
Celebrity game.

That's a whole show by itself.

I mean, it is a whole show by itself. I can see if I scored zero

and we lost, but the point of a team

game is the win. First of all, you can't score zero.

I mean, you can score whatever you want.

You have zero. If you

score, that means you put something on the board.

I ain't scored no touchdowns.

You understand it. I was, listen,

there are so many other aspects

Thank you. You know, if you score, that means you put something on the board.
I ain't scoring no touchdowns.

You understand it.

I was, listen, listen, there are so many other aspects to my game outside of just scoring because we already had two prolific scores on the court.

So what did I do?

My defensive presence.

Hey, I was like this.

They couldn't even get by me.

And then I had them messing up turning the ball over.

You should have saw me, huh?

You should have been cross-eyed, man.

Why you didn't make Gilly turn it over?

He did.

You didn't have 21 and 13.

I made Gilly turn it over twice.

Turn the ball over twice.

They're playing defense.

And they tried to pick.

And I squeezed right through the pick, like Michael Jackson.

Went right through the pick.

Uh-huh.

No, no, no, no, sir.

I got skinny real quick, huh? I got skinny real quick. No didn't go on.
Oh, you fought over the screen? No, I went, no, no, I ain't even balled. You fought through it.
I went right through it. I got skinny, so it didn't work.
Yeah, but listen, man, listen, so many other aspects of my game was on point where I didn't even need to be a score. That's how great I am.
That's how great I am. I think in watching the Bears, I think Ibra Flues and his system or whomever he had coaching Caleb Williams, this is the best we've seen the Bears offense look.
Chicago scored zero touchdowns on his opening possessions last year. So in 17 games, they had zero touchdowns on opening possessions.

And like I said, I understand this is a preseason game.

They had the most drives ending in punts.

They were dead last in total offense.

So, look, you can't go nowhere but off.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

The Bears were dead last in total offense last year?

Yes, 32.

Thank you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The Bears were dead last in total offense last year? Yes, 32. I like them to finish in the top 10.
I like them to finish in the top 10 with all limb goddamn weapons. Yeah, they got some weapons.
They had two, I mean, they had 43 carries. And the thing is that I like about him that he'll run it and he'll throw it.
They had 39 pass attempts. They had 43 rush attempts.
First of all, that's a lot of damn plays, even for a preseason. Yeah.
Let's get that out of the way. But it's the Bill's fault.
It's the Bill's fault.

Too many goddamn three and outs.

Trubisky, Mike White.

Frank Gore Jr. looked good.

He had a fumble, but he reminds you of his dad.

Yeah, you got to have that thing high and tight,

especially when that traffic comes. He didn't see him coming.
He saw the guy from the side, and that guy just pulled it out. But – Little peanut punch.
And they are in a tough division. That is a very tough division that the Bears are in.
You got Green Bay. You got Detroit.
You got Minnesota. So you got to get better.
You don't have no choice. One thing you have to get better on is putting up – Oh, you got to score better you don't have no choice one thing you have to get better on is putting up oh you got to score because every other every other team you just named they're gonna they're putting up points and i'm not talking about field goals either but it's gonna be interesting to see what detroit is without ben johnson well hey wait a minute you got to understand even with without Ben Johnson there, the same players are still there.
So I think even with the creativity,

regardless of the creativity, regardless if the creativity isn't there, the players that are called, they still have players that can go get it. Jamison Williams.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
I'm talking so fast. Slow down, Ocho.
Slow down. J-Mo can go get it.
Amon Ross St. Brown can go get it.

Jameer, you know what you get

from David Montgomery and Jameer Gale because

I think regardless of who's calling the plays,

the play calling job is

that easy because of the elite talent

at his disposal to be able to use.

Well, if it was that easy,

so why wasn't Chicago any better

than what they were if all it was was about players?

Because they got the same players.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

There's no Amon Ross St. Brown.

But you're... wasn't Chicago any better than what they were if all it was about players because they got the same players oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa there's no Amon Ross St.
Brown but you said you we said they look good did we not say the Bears look good now what play one player that we said look good that wasn't there last year you told me it's the player that doesn't matter who the play caller is so it shouldn't matter that Ibra Flux was there or whomever the play caller was. Oh, listen, I'm speaking specifically on personnel and skillset.
Caleb Williams, was he not the quarterback? Let's please. No, no, you're not understanding what you're saying.
I'm going by positions. I'll tell you what, how about this here? Who has the better players? And I disrespect to what the Bears have I'm just saying Take the Bears aside, we're going to deal with the Bears It's level, right? I'll give you another example What happened to the Eagles when they lost both of their coordinators After going to the Super Bowl They had the same players Jalen Hurst was there, A.J.
Brown was there. Devontae Smith was there.
What happened the next season?

Did they look the same?

It's not a trick question.

Hold on.

I know it's not a trick question, but I'm trying to think.

They went to the Super Bowl.

They lost. They lost both coordinators, the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinators.
The same players were there. Did they look...
Oh, wait. Hey, is that the year where the defense couldn't tackle a goddamn soul? You said it didn't matter.
Yeah, I think... Hey, no, wait.
Why are you going to put me in there? Because the Eagles' problem was their defense. They weren't tackling no goddamn bad.
What about their offense? To that point, it looked like they was doing it on goddamn purpose. What about their offense? How'd their offense look? They was all right.
Jalen Hurts had more turnover in the first half of the season than he had the entire season the year before. But you say they look the same.
Oh, no. Wait, hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't blame the offensive wolves on the individual player on the person called that team.
I'm asking you, did their offense look the same as the offense that went to the Super Bowl? Did their defense look the same as the defense that led them to the Super Bowl? That's all I'm asking. No, but listen.
I tell you what. I tell you what.
I love the points you're trying to make, but I know the makeup of the Detroit Lions offense that they're still going to look to par regardless of whether Ben Johnson is there or not because of what they have there. What about defense? They lost AG too though.
Ooh, that's nice. They still got Brian Branch.
They still got Aiden Hutchinson. He's back.
Yeah, he's back. They got one more dog over there.
I'm losing. I'm losing.
Are you talking about Kerry Joseph? Yes, the safety. Kerry Joseph.
Hell, he had what? I think he had eight or nine picks. Eight interceptions.
Terry and Arnold. He got to keep his hands to himself.
Why would I just get rid of say? That's it. That's it.
They're going to be right on both sides of the ball. They're going to're gonna put some points out yeah it's always sometimes you have a like it takes you it sometimes it takes a team a year to adjust yeah right without because ben has been there so long i mean he's been there what what four or five years i mean that's the only yes that's the only person that jerry golf has had in his ear since he's been in detroit ag he's., he's been to D.C.
for what, three years there? Very good. They're an extremely talented ball club.
They're one of the favorites, along with the Eagles, the Eagles, Detroit, the Packers, the Niners, you know, Tampa.

Hey, hold on.

I got a question.

You just said the Niners.

You think the Niners still going to look the same?

They got Robert Solom back.

Deebo didn't give him anything last year, Ocho.

He didn't give him anything last year. But here's the thing.
Let's just say they get a healthy Christian McCaffrey back. Ooh.
Now, it's going to be interesting to see how healthy Brandon Ayuk is and how soon. Because sometimes, Ocho, it's the year after.
It's the following year. Not the season right after the surgery.
It's the year after. Right.
We'll see how soon. They still got an outstanding offensive line.
Big Trent. Let's see how healthy he is.
Can he get back to being Trent Williams? Kittle is still a top tight end in the league. Absolutely.
Purdy. Now, they

did lose some guys. Drake Greenlaw,

Ward. They lost some guys.

Afanga.

They've

lost some guys on the defensive side.

But Robert Sala is back. That defense

wasn't the same

without Robert Sala.

Hey, did they ever

fix

receiver, Jawan Jennings?

No, I haven't heard anything else about it.

Thank you. Without Robert Sala.
Hey, did they ever fix receiver, Jawan Jennings? No, I haven't heard anything else about it. I haven't heard anything else about it.
Yeah, he's nice. For the work he put in and stepping up when Ayuk went down and when Devo was hurt and injured, he made some really good plays and made sure they didn't miss a beat offensively.
I hope we reward him before the season starts. Yeah.
It's kind of like the situation that Cam Hayward is in. Cause remember they tore up Cam Hayward, gave him a two year deal.
And then, you know, he played well and said, well, I can't see myself playing on, on this number because, because other guys, he saw other defensive players get pay raises. Get their money.
Sometimes the worst thing you can do is base your worth on what somebody else got. Ooh, that's a good one.
I like that. I don't know.
They used to do it. I don't know if they still did it when you were there.
You remember they used to pass the sheet around? All the

receivers. They had all the

highest pay because you were receivers so you saw what

everybody else made. You're like,

he making that?

Plus you got all the guys on your own team

plus every receiver.

What they're making.

Oh man, man. That thing come

out there. Hey, I get that thing.

I be looking at somebody like, you make that?

And you giving us that?

How about them boys tonight?

Boy, y'all defense steals some trash.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute now.

Let's not do that.

Let's not do that.

Now, we look very bad on the first two drives that the commanders had the ball.

They took their starters out.

But we look better from that point on.

Let's not do that. Now, we look very bad on the first two drives that the commanders had the ball.
They took their starters out. But we look better from that point on.
Let's be optimistic. Let's be optimistic about the situation.
Ocho, did you see how they ran down the field on y'all? Yeah. I can tell you who blew the assignment.
I can tell you who blew the assignment. Who blew the assignment? The Mike Backer.
He scraped over the top. He went underneath.

He scraped underneath.

You know you can't get that underneath.

He tried to shoot the gal bar.

He tried to pull a Ray Lewis on him.

What are we doing?

What are we doing?

And they did it twice.

Did it twice.

And the guy bounced right outside and he gone.

We had a conversation last night.

I said, Ocho, I want to see their backs.

And it'll give us a better understanding why Bryan Robinson Jr. is on the trade block.
Well, we see why he's on the trade block. We saw those two backs from Washington.
Now it makes sense. I don't know how much you could speak for yourself, but it makes a ton of sense to me.
It does make sense, but obviously, Brian Robinson, we've seen what he can do, and I just saw some reports, obviously, obviously doing my little homework talking about he runs a little bit timid not hitting the hole and just just stuff like that i'm not sure if if the injury history is probably a cause of that but obviously they like the young bulls especially bill he doesn't want to be called jacob his name is bill bill bill uh hold on you got yes rodriguez no no the other one the other Oh,, Rodriguez? No, no, the other one. The other one.
Oh, Kosky. Because what's his full name? The one that Jay Daniels got the ball back for? Yeah.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
If he said he wanted to be called Bill, I'm going to call him Bill. Okay.
I mean, 30 rush attempts, Ocho, for 185 yards and two touchdowns.

I mean, you look at it, the two top guys, 17 rushes between the two of them

for 108 yards.

And y'all got to look.

Lovu, everybody in the stadium, everybody at home,

knew the Bengals were not going to snap that ball at the 38-yard line on fourth and three except you. Yeah.
And you jumped off sides. Everybody.
When they start doing all that motion, when they bring the guy outside, they bring him to the backfield, then they sprint him out there. They're not running no play, bro.
They're trying to get you to jump off sides.

And you did it.

Ocho, we get

the Eagles last year.

Remember on the goal line and he jumped off sides

like four or five times in a row.

And the officials

say, you know, if you keep doing this, we're just

going to award them the score.

Okay, fine.

They're going to score anyway. But in a situation like this, these kind of players will get you beat.
Guess what happened, Ocho? Didn't they go right down the field and score a touchdown? Yes, we did. Yes, we did.
I want to talk about how good our offense looked, except that second series. That second series with Joe Burrow and the number twos.
Yeah, yeah. I don't know why he did that.
Joe know better. better he pulled back all the running and scramming that yeah throw that thing away joe because you don't want to take any unnecessary punishment yeah outside and he got bailed out again because oh brown got beat and why it just happened to horse calling um they're gonna have to do a better job of protecting joe but oh joe your offense has to look good good because that's where all your money is.
So wherever your money is, that's the side of the football you're really going to have to win on. Yeah, most definitely.
Most definitely. And the Broncos, when we played in the 90s, TD, myself, John, Zim, Rod.
Yeah. So that's where the money was.
So that's where we had to be. That's where we had to be.
I thought your offense, Joe was 9 of 14, 62 yards. Jake Browning came in.
Jake Browning, he plays well. When asked and given the opportunity, Ocho, he plays well.
16 of 25, 159, two touchdowns. Desmond Ritter came in there through one pass he was one on one for seven yards um but and they were going down the field again and then josh johnson threw a horrible interception yeah um oh oh josh where's my dog there man good to see josh good to see josh still out there man working and working and working yeah yeah hey he don't't, I mean, hey, he don't collect, he collect his own jerseys.
And he ain't got no other player. He ain't got no other player's jerseys.
You know, you trade jerseys, don't you? Hey, I just collect my own. He got my 14.
I think he's been on 16 of the 32 teams. 16 of the 32.
Damn. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I like it. So, hey, so if he ever want to coach, he know somebody, somebody somewhere.

Hey, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And listen, when you play that long at that position, they will definitely give you a job.

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Joining us in the chat right now is the New York Giants running back. Last season as a rookie, he ran 192 times, 839 yards, five TDs, and he's back, Tyrone Tracy Jr.
What's up, bro? What's up, man? What's good, man? How you doing? Man, I'm doing great, man. How are you? I'm good.
I'm going to call you TT. I'm going to call you TT because I feel like – I appreciate that, man.
That's what they call you? You want to be called TT? TT, Trace, you know, TTJ. You know, you can call me too, man.
Don't call me Tracy. Don't call me Tracy.
I can't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, No, I wouldn't do that. So, I have a question.
First off, my first question is, how are training camp going so far? How are your legs holding up? And have you hit that ball yet? Have you hit that training camp ball yet? Yeah, I mean, I think a lot. Dave's been taking care of us, to be honest.
Like, he's been doing a good job making sure that, like, you know, we putting it in work, but then also, like, you know, giving us a bone, you know, here and there and making sure, you know, you know, off days, we taking care of, you know, the recovery aspect of everything. But I'm good.
You know, camp been good. Everything been good.
The vibes in the locker room is high. You got new faces in the locker room.
So everything been smooth. Yeah.
So hold on. Hold on.
Go ahead. I'm feeling good tonight.
I'm from to talk. But listen, I got one more question.
Your rookie season. Yeah.
Five touchdowns, 900 some yards on whatever however many carries it was. I know you set goals for yourself.
You had goals, but obviously as players going into a season, you had personal goals as well. What would your goals be if it's okay with you sharing it with us at night? Your personal goals personal goals for this season.
Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you.
So my, my personal goals, um, is first and foremost, you got to win. Cause I feel like if you don't win, nothing else matters.
So, but, um, obviously I want to do way better than I did last year. Last year was really just, you know, obviously my first year in the league, welcome to the league, all that stuff.
But now I feel more confident. I feel like, um,, I got the energy behind me, but I also got, you know, the trust behind me as well from the coaching staff and my teammates to go out there and play well.
I want, you know, 1,500 yards. I want 10 tuts.
And like, I want, I want to be, you know, one of the running backs that people talk about. Like, you know, this is the stuff I pray for, you know what I'm saying? I feel like for me to say it in front of you guys, but then also like, you know, say it to myself each and every day.
You know, that's something that you need to say, you know, the power of life and death lies within the tongue. So I got to continue to speak life into my situation for each and every person I'm around.
You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's how I'm moving right now. I like that.
I like moving right now. Speaking into existence, Ocho and I were just talking about practice fights when you have scrimmages, joint practice scrimmages.
There was a little scuffle yesterday. What popped off with you and Will McDonough? They know where it would pop off, man.
Y'all been there. Y'all been there.
You know how camp get. You know, it's hot competition.
You know, it's the best against the best. You know what I'm saying? I had a good little run.
He was just finishing the play, and my offensive line didn't like that. Right.
You know what I'm saying? So that's really what happened. You know, he threw me to the ground.
My offensive line didn't like it. They it really wasn't nothing it wasn't nothing crazy man you know we don't we seen worse you know y'all probably seen worse too yeah hey let me ask you this oh go ahead go ahead Brian Blake because I was just talking okay we when you have a joint practice okay coaches go overlook nine on seven it's gonna be solid thuds we're not taking anybody the ground, but there's going to be some thudding going on.
Okay, and seven on eight and team, they're not going to take you to the ground, but it's going to be some collisions. So just expect it.
So you go in with a mindset, okay, this is what it's going to be, X, Y, and Z. I'm good with it.
I'm prepared. It's when you do something extra is what, because your coach had a conversation with our coach.
And this is what they agreed to. Now, when you step outside of that scope, I got to check you.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's exactly what happened, to be honest with you. Yeah.
They told me, like, Coach Dave came to me personally. He was like, yo, like, we know it's tag off, but just be prepared in between the tackle box to hit you.
So I'm like, okay, cool. I'm cool with that.
In between the tackle box, that's 10 yards. You know what I'm saying? They're going to hit you.
Okay, cool. But this happened.
I'm about to go score. We 15 yards down the line of scrimmage.
I'm running. So that's really why the scuff, the scuffling started just because, like, that wasn't the rules.
The rules is in between the line of scrimmage, boom, you get 15 yards, you can hit. But other than that, like, you know, let me finish my run because I'm just trying to do my job, you know what I'm saying, and finish off a run.
But, you know, like I said, man, we just – people had my back, and they didn't like that. That's all.

Yeah, that's dope.

Hey, Jackson Dart.

Oh, yeah.

I knew you was going there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One of y'all was going to go there, but I knew one of y'all was going to go there.

Listen, listen, I'm asking – my question is Malik Nabors having a very,

very, very good year last year.

And I knew him, and Malik Nabors had the talent to be in the top five conversation we talk about receivers no in NFL yeah how is Jackson Dart looking so far as far as being able to understand the offense being in command of the offense and understanding like this is a chance that I can be the future for the next decade for this team yeah did you did you watch that last game? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, they were three quarters

in the game. the future for the next decade for this team.
Yeah. Did you watch that last game? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

As a matter of fact, there were three quarterbacks

that looked really good because

we didn't know what we were going to get from them. Jackson Thart

was one of them. The other, George Sanders, and there

was one more. Jameis

played. All four of them played.

Russell started it. He kicked it off the Jameis,

then Thart, and then the other guy finished it up.

Yeah, but the small sympathize we saw from Jackson Thart, it looked good. He looked very calm.
He looked very good, very calm. Most of the time, rookie quarterbacks, when that pressure in those lights are on, they get happy feet, they rattled.
You know, their technique is like, they rush the ball, but he looked really good. Nah, he did.
I mean, to be honest with you, it ain't really nothing crazy. You know, he did out there.
He do that stuff every day in practice, to be honest with you. Like, that's just how all the good players that you're around, the great players you're around, they all do that stuff every single day.
So it's not like a surprise when they do it on Sundays or Saturdays or whatever. So, like, yeah, I mean, I feel like he's going, he had the potential to be a really good quarterback that he's taken everything to his, his, his game to another level, to be honest.
When he first got there, obviously it's a lot of information going in, but now like, you can see that he's, he's settled down like, and yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
He dialed in now. Like can see some of that college jackson dark come out of him because of how calm and relaxed he is in the game and like he's just out there hooping now he ain't he ain't thinking he's just out there playing that that's that's the funny thing when you get to a point regardless of what position you play receiver running back especially the quarterback position because you have so much on your plate and at the table coming to the line of scrimmage.

But when you know everything and what everybody's doing around you and you're comfortable and

you add comfortability with confidence, it's a done deal.

The game starts to slow down to you.

And when the game starts to slow down to you, you start to look like some of the better

quarterbacks in the NFL that do it consistently, which is key, week to week. I got one more question before you go.
I'm feeling good. Hey, man.
I got questions for y'all too. Fuck.
Please tell me, what is it like to be around Jameis crazy-ass Winston in the locker room? I just need one good Jameis Winston story, please. Hey, he's funny, man.
Have y'all been around him? Yeah. For short spurts in New Orleans, you know.
But every day, no. That would be a joy.
I ain't going to lie like what y'all see online and on Instagram and all these clips y'all see. I really like that.
Like, I promise you, I promise you, like, I have a million stories. Like, I've only known a man for about five months now.
Right, right. He does crazy stuff every day.
Like, every day. Like, he does something crazy.
Like, I'll tell you this one story. We had a UFC fighter come to our practice, and she gave him some gloves.
Like, signed him and everything. Jameis comes in a locker room and starts, like, doing UFC, like, kicks and fights with the gloves on.
Like, he's really trying to fight people in the locker room. Like, he's showing us his kicks and everything.
Like, I promise you, like, he is, like, I thought I was an outgoing person until, like, I met him. Like, he's, like, literally one of one.
Like, he's a great, great person. He's,, he's a very down to earth guy.
Yeah. Cool as hell.
That's dope. Yeah.
That's kind of where I was going because I wanted to know the difference between the personality between Russ and because if you look at them, the personalities are very, very different, but they're both very religious men seem to be very, approach their business, go about the work, the task at hand, and get the job done. What would you say would be the biggest differences between Russ' personality and Jameis' personality? That's a good question.
I would probably say Jameis goes about his business more fluid, I guess you can Russ is more like not really strict but he just has a certain way of doing things right Jameis is more like goofy like he is business but like he also understands that like you know you have to have fun while doing it you have to have fun while doing it you know I'm saying don't get me wrong You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. Russ has fun, but like

Russ is like on

a certain path. Like he

does stuff a certain way and

like, I don't know how to explain it.

He's not strict, but

he expects things to look

a certain way. Very disciplined.

Very structured. Yes.

If I was to give an analogy

in comparison to the two, it's like watching Fresh Prince and watching Will Smith and watching Carlton. Yes.
I see Russell Wilson as Carlton in a sense, very serious, very business oriented. He can have fun when necessary.
I see James Winston as Will Smith in the character comparison to the two. Yeah, don't get me wrong.
They both are cool regardless of the situation. But, like I said, Jameis is more goofy.
He's there to always going to make you laugh, make you feel good. Even when things are very tense, he cracks a joke so you feel good.
He breaks the ice. feels like you know the coach is getting after you or whatever like he makes sure to like you understand that like at the end of the day coaches are going to get after you but you got to move on like the next play is is coming up so just continue to move on and Russ is the same way like Russ is very like I said he's strict but he has a certain way of doing things very disciplined like first one in last one out like every single day he has his routine of what he does and that's just who Russ is and if you've been around him he handles himself like professional like every single day so um yeah they're both very good leaders like you said very both very religious men like I I really can't say enough good things about each of about each of them.
You guys finished dead last in red zone touchdown percentage. You scored the second fewest points in the red zone.
That was a little harsh. I mean, dang.
You guys finished last in red zone. Y'all finished second worst in points scored.
You wasn't dead last. The other one, you were last.
I short. But, okay, when you come back on next year, what are you going to do different to make sure you're not in this same spot again? Man, to be honest with you, when we get down there, we got to score.
Three points is not enough. Kick your field goals, get your beat.
Yeah, in this league, three points ain't enough. We got to score tuss.
And I think that really really starts with the O-line, obviously protecting the quarterback. Quarterback, you got to do your job, make better decisions.
Get the ball to your playmakers, running back, receivers, tight ends. Get them the ball.
I think that's the easiest thing in the game. Get the ball to your playmaker.
Let them go to work. And when your playmakers go to work, it makes the whole game easy.

Where you come in at?

I didn't hear you mention TT.

You ain't a playmaker.

You ain't a playmaker.

You didn't even say run the ball?

Oh, you want to run the ball?

Okay, we're going to run the ball.

Okay, we're going to run the ball.

We're going to turn around and hand it to you.

Nah, TT, you got to put yourself in that description as a playmaker

because you know what you could be.

Hell, you could be the goddamn security blanket.

You could be.

You want to be one of the better running backs in the league, right?

So you want to know when they game plan and they come into a game,

well, goddamn, we got to worry about two people.

We got to worry about Malik Navels or we got to worry about TT.

You come in defenses, you in the backfield, first or second down,

all right, we got to drop the safety down in the goddamn box. They can't do that, though.
They dropped the safety down, we're going to throw it over top. Boom, beam.
So if Malik on off, boom, now we got to go too high. Yeah.
It's time to work. Now you got to run them out of that too high.
Exactly. But that's what I'm saying.
Like, you're the body of playmakers. It makes a lot of things easy.
Especially for offensive coordinator. You got a lot of good dudes in your locker room and they all want to win.
Obviously, you got your personal stuff that you want to do. But like, if you all just want to win, like it makes a lot of stuff easy.
Like because it's easier when you're winning. When you're losing, it's hard, man.
Like last year, it was hard last year just because like, obviously you lose it And we're trying to figure out why we're losing. And then, you know, you got a whole bunch of stuff going on.
So it was hard, but it's way easier when you win it. It's fun.
It's fun to be around people, fun to be around coaches, fun to be in the locker room, everything. So, yeah.
Fun to be out and about in the city. Yeah.
Yeah. Jay, being able to show you, especially, listen, you're playing, you're playing in the biggest market, you're playing in the biggest market in the world.
And when you win it in that market, oh, the newspapers are a joy to watch. The headlines are a joy to read.
When you lose, everything is magnified. You don't want to show your face.
You don't want to deal with the fans. It's in a market of that magnitude.

So, man, listen, I'm hoping y'all do very, very well.

I will.

Hey, the division you guys are in, it ain't no slap.

Oh, yeah.

No, it ain't no slap.

We ain't no slap either, though.

We ain't no slap either, though.

Believe that.

That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm looking for right now.

Okay.

Okay.

Come on, now.

Hey, KT, have you always been a running back? Did you play any other position? Yeah. I was going to say that earlier.
Yeah. I was a receiver, too, my whole career, my whole college career.
Really? Yeah. Yeah.
I turned switched positions my last year because of Coach C. He's the running back coach at Purdue.
Okay. Yeah.
He came in from Miami of Ohio. He looked at me and he was like, yeah, you're going to be a running back.
And I've known Coach C for, like, my entire life. Like, I've known him since I was, like, 15 years old.
But I wanted to be a receiver. I was watching you, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? I was watching your old friend.
I was watching Tavon Austin. Like, I was watching all these cats, you know, go crazy.
I was watching you, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? I was watching Yo-Fan. I was watching Tavon Austin.
I was watching all these cats go crazy. I was about, what, 5'10", 180.
I was a slot receiver. And then once I got to college, I gained some weight, got to about 200 pounds.
Right. And they was like, yeah, you're going to be a running back.
Yeah, so everything – if you look at – hold on, let me say this real quick, real quick. If you look at everything, like from all my stat line, from my measurements, you know what I'm saying? Like I was an average receiver, but then like you switch it to running back, you know, now I'm running a 4-4-7.
That's a fast running back. I got good good hands I can run good routes because I was a receiver so that you get everything that you know you compare to the league today now that's that's God God really made all that happen like I went through all that that struggle and and that frustration and irritation and then next thing you know like all the blessings came out you know in 2025 it was it's crazy well listen now that you just said that well you just you just woke me up a little bit and I want you to understand the importance of not only playing receiver one point but now playing running back you understand that's two things you can do very well yeah now you don't got to come out on third down yeah you don't have to come out on third down.
So that puts you in the same category. You can get to this in year two and continue to improve on it.
But Christian McCaffrey, great running back. What else can you do out the backfield? Catch.
LaDainian Tomlinson, out the backfield and catch. So that makes you a three down back and that adds value.
You know what happens when you add value and another dynamic to your game that they can't take away from you?

It also adds dollars.

It makes money.

Okay, stay with me now. The more you can do.

Well, since you a

running back aficionado now,

give me your top five running backs of all time.

Oh, of all time?

All time. All time.

Of all time.

Okay.

Herschel Walker.

What you know about Big Dog?

Come on now.

I used to watch this film.

I ain't going to lie.

I used to watch this film.

You were held in college, man.

Oh, yeah.

I'm going to go with – man, I ain't going to lie.

There's some dogs.

Yeah.

There's some dogs.

He talked about running backs.

Emmitt Smith, got to put him in there.

Is this like rankings or are you just like –

No, no, no.

It's just your top five.

It's just your top five.

It's your preference.

It's your main ranking. Okay.
Yeah, it's your preference LT, Dan Thompson I love his game I love how smooth he was and I'm going to put Otis Anderson in there only because I've watched this film personally and I've seen obviously I played for the Giants but I've've watched this film personally

and I've seen, obviously I played for the

Giants, but I've also watched this film personally.

I like the way he played.

He's a big bruising back. He put

that wine up on you.

Mershon Lynch.

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I got four. And then my last one.

I'm going to go Bo.

Big Bo.

Jackson?

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

That's a good one. That's five or six.

I think you might have added one.

I added one?

I think you did.

I don't think I did.

That was five, huh?

That was five.

You know, he getting old.

He can't.

I don't know.

Nah. You had Hershel Walker.
You had Emmitt Smith. LaDainian Tomlinson.
Who else he had? Bo Jackson. Ornish Anderson.
And Bo Jackson. And Bo Jackson.
That's five. You're right.
You got five. Oh, man.
You just named guys. You just named guys that I saw and you didn't see.
Yeah. I was surprised.
I thought you would go a little

bit more modern.

Man, Poe Barry. Man, I ain't

never seen somebody leave Barry Sanders off their list.

Nah, I ain't gonna lie.

So, I was gonna put Barry

and I put Emin in there, but

that just made me personally.

This is my personal preference.

Yeah, that's your list.

Matter of fact, you know who my favorite running backs are? All the time. It's not the favorites, and I'm not talking about all the time.
I'm talking about running styles. I like running backs in general, but I like runners that are very smooth with no herky-jerky movements.
It's just they get the ball, and they just glide as they run. Arian Foster.
Yeah, you – hey, what about Marshawn Lynch? Is he a running back? Oh, that's right. So that was six.
I did say Marshawn. A young man that can't remember.
Damn, how you remember your plays? I did say that. I did say that.
You did say that, yeah. I did say that.
Who told you? I know you got a wristband like a quarterback. Your producer told you that.
Nah. Hey, Ocho, I ain't never seen a running back like the quarterback.
Like, oh, okay, that's the play we running right there. No, 14.
Okay, that's me. Hey, I ain't get my three smoothest running backs of all time based on.
Who you got? Running style. Running style.
Okay, four. I'm going to go with Eric Dickinson first.
Okay. Just pretty.
Arian Foster. Okay.
I know you've seen Arian Foster run. Yeah.
Goddamn Priest Holmes. The Priest.
Priest Holmes and Amon Green. That's a new one.
The Priest and Green, that's a new one. Hey, Unk, them dudes ran so smooth, and it's like they was gliding.
And, like, you know how you see some running back, he's like, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh. Yeah, strong.
They run strong. Yeah, strong, dog.
Them four I just named right there, man, it was beautiful. I played with Priest one year.
His last year in Baltimore, I played with the Priest. Yeah, man.
Amon Green, too. Oh, my goodness.
Well, you know, in that West Coast system, you're downhill. Hmm? In the West Coast system, if you look at the back of Arian Foster, he was in the West Coast system.

You look at those guys

like that, Terrell Davis, it's

one cut downhill.

Ain't a whole lot of dancing.

Moving, yeah.

Say that for Friday night when you're at the club, but come Sunday

when you're on the field, ain't no dancing.

Get your ass downhill.

Right, right.

So, what can we expect from TT? So you said 1,500, 10 tubs, Pro Bowl? I mean, hey, ain't the Pro Bowl like a fan vote? It's fans, coaches, and players. Ain't that a fan vote? The fans vote count the most.
I think it's 50%, and then players and coaches count 25%. You know, you can get all these accolades and stuff, but I feel like that's a fan vote.
Once you crack at one time, and especially for you, it'd be much easier because of the market you play in. The product sells itself based on where you're playing, so if you even get close to the numbers that you're talking about getting as far as your goals for this season, you would definitely make it, and once you're in, most of the time they think, oh, it's a popular vote, regardless of whether the fans pick it or not.
Yeah. You consistently go if you maintain the weekend from a stats perspective.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Okay, okay. But, yeah, that's definitely on my list for sure.
Where can the chat find you on social media? Where are you on X? Where are you on IG?

Oh, sure.

On X or Twitter X.

It was just Tyrone Tracy.

And then on Instagram,

I am underscore TTJXI.

Both of y'all,

I need y'all to follow me too.

Hey, wait, mate.

I got one more question too before you go.

How do you feel about your Madden rating and do I need to change anything?

I think I'm at like a

I think I'm at 79, I think.

What? A 79?

Yeah, I think I'm not

positive.

In your rookie year, you might have been

a 79. Based on what you did last year, I'm

sure it's went up further than the 79.

So if it's not higher than the 79, I need to contact you while I'm hearing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just let me know.

Just let me know.

Okay.

Nah, contact us after the first month of the season.

Don't contact us after the first game.

After the first month of the season, contact us.

First month?

Okay, first month.

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