BEST OF NFL NEWS Part 2: Howie Roseman's biggest regret + Terry McLaurin latest

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Speaker 8 OJo, Eagles, JM High Roseman speaks on the mistake and the regret of not drafting Justin Jefferson. I think there's one who's pretty obvious.
One guy didn't draft that's going to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 The mistakes kill me.

Speaker 8 It made me think, why are we picking certain guys? But if we don't make that mistake like that, we probably don't play in two Super Bowls in the last three years. Don't overthink things.

Speaker 8 When you're staring at a good player, player, just take them. Not drafting JJ still haunts him to this day.
Yes.

Speaker 8 Because think about who you took. Look, the guy that he took, I played with his father, Monte Rager.

Speaker 8 Jalen Rager is his son. Yes, sir.
He got in awe of all the jumping high and running fast, and he overlooked the production that JJ Jetta gave him on the field.

Speaker 8 I asked Ozzie Newsom, who's one of the best GMs, to do it.

Speaker 8 Drafted jonathan his first two players he ever selected was jonathan ogden and ray lewis right he selected he selected suggest he selected lamar jackson he selected ed reed

Speaker 8 we know we know what he's been able to do yeah and i asked him say ozzie

Speaker 8 suggs oh cho he said slugs ran 485 with tights and track spikes I said, well, why the hell you take a man to run 485? He said, Shannon, somebody got 23 sacks, I saw.

Speaker 8 somebody could bend the edge. Yeah, I don't need him to run 40 yards.
I just need to run 10. Right.
And he can get off the ball. So I believe, he said,

Speaker 8 I'll never forget this. He said, I believe what my eyes tell me.
He says, yes, when I'm watching film and a guy looks fast, he looks explosive, he looks strong. Hopefully he comes to the combine.

Speaker 8 Hopefully he tests well. But if he doesn't, I base most of what I, what I judging on, but what I see on tape.
I'm going to trust my eyes. Howie didn't trust his eyes.

Speaker 8 He got enamored by, ocho, 4-3, 4-sub, 4-4.

Speaker 8 He got enamored by 40-plus inch vertical. He got enamored by things that doesn't necessarily equate to being a great...
Because if that was the case, hell, I'd just go get me a track guy. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Do you see when Noah Lyles is warming up? Did you see how high he jumps up in the damn air? Yeah.

Speaker 8 His feet, his heels are at the height of somebody's head. So that lets you know, first of all, if a guy that fast, you know, he's explosive, Ocho.

Speaker 9 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8 Look at Tyreek. You say Tyreek did them backflips.
You say, you say, you got to see this joke.

Speaker 8 Yes, you can tell he's explosive.

Speaker 9 Yes, sir.

Speaker 8 Go ahead. What you want to say? What do you think about how he said admitting that he made a mistake not drafting Jenna?

Speaker 9 Well, you know, that happens. That happens.
Obviously, it's the eye test.

Speaker 9 When it comes to scouts, GMs, coaches, and personnel in general, based off the eye test and not looking at numbers you look at justin jefferson and you look at jalen rager and you'll pick jalen rager based on what you see when it comes to the aesthetics of the position in itself so i can understand where he calls it he calls it a mistake actually it's not a mistake because let's say you did go get jettis you might not have the super bowls that you have

Speaker 9 you know you might not you know if things would have been different so everything went exactly how it was supposed to have supposed to go actually but um i'm i'm i'm upset well he stumbled into it because guess what the next year devontae Smith came out and he was able to trade down to get Devontae Smith.

Speaker 8 And a couple of years later, you trade and you get A.J. Brown.

Speaker 8 So you got your big two.

Speaker 9 It did work itself out. I was kind of upset.
I really wanted, I really wanted Brother Jalen Rager to

Speaker 9 be great at the position because he had all the intangibles to be just that. I think one of the things with him is mentally.

Speaker 9 mentally i think i think he had lost his confidence at some point and he just wasn't able to regain it back because he has all the potential in the world to be one of the best in the league.

Speaker 9 He just wasn't able to put it all together.

Speaker 9 Hey, Arkan, Ocho,

Speaker 9 do you think they put too much emphasis on like

Speaker 9 the testing, the combine?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 9 When it comes to football, meaning because there are some guys who will not test well when it comes to combine, agility, quickness,

Speaker 9 vertical. But when you put them in between the lines,

Speaker 9 when the lights come on, they just know how to play, bro. You know what I mean? That's for basketball and football.

Speaker 9 But I see that, I see that in a lot of guys, uh, uh, this year, obviously, from watching Shadura, you know, uh, I know, I know we talk about him a lot, but he looks like one of those type of guys, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 When you get him in between the lines, he just knows how to play, bro. You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 Yeah, hell no, he probably ain't gonna test well in no combine and no 40 or no vertical leap or none of that. You know what I mean? Yeah,

Speaker 9 yeah,

Speaker 8 if somebody goes to the combine, they might not be.

Speaker 8 Uh, We just had Taryn Armstead.

Speaker 8 He goes to the combine to run 4-6.

Speaker 8 Now people looking at him. Yeah.
You get a guy goes there and they might not be hurt or he might be a low. Go run 4-3.
Yeah. Because I can teach you everything else.
I can teach you to catch.

Speaker 8 I can teach you to back pedal. I can teach you to drop.
I can't teach you how to run fast. Either you got that in you or you don't.

Speaker 9 But also, also, it's a gift and a curse, being able to run that goddamn fast and them believing you becoming a project coming to the NFL.

Speaker 9 Well, we can teach you all the intangibles, you know, to become a great player, whatever position you do play. Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's too late.

Speaker 9 Because if you're already in the NFL and you've been able to get by, you've been able to get by without the technique all this time. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, you got the technique at the next level, you don't get exposed anyway, no matter how goddamn fast you are. Unknown at that level, everybody runs 4-3 at the skill position damn here.

Speaker 9 Everybody, even the people that run 4-5 or run 4-6, that play receiver, whatnot,

Speaker 9 they know how to manipulate all those that are fast to be able to get open and create separation. So speed is just an adage.
It's like having a car unknown and you're throwing rims on there.

Speaker 9 And once you put the rims on it, okay, that's the speed in general. It's great to have, but you don't necessarily need it to be successful at what you do.

Speaker 8 Let me know when to use it. Yeah.
Have you ever heard anybody say size kill?

Speaker 8 Have you ever heard somebody say

Speaker 8 strength kills? What do they say kill, Ocho? Speed. Speed.
yeah yeah speed i can't teach you that they say well he taught no no no no no no

Speaker 8 i can teach you technique to make you faster than what you are but that's in you right if you think somebody like got that you saying boat was always fast yes sir it was always in him

Speaker 8 he just found somebody to get it out of him yes sir So now, Ocho, you look at it, we look at guys and they're like, man,

Speaker 8 what does everybody say?

Speaker 8 i just ain't nobody said i want to do 24 reps ain't nobody said i want to do 40 inch vertical right 40 everybody say i want to run i want to run 4-3 i want to run 4-2 because that's what's going to grab the attention right when chris johnson ran that 4-2-4

Speaker 8 yeah

Speaker 8 yeah john rolls got drafted in the first round because he ran 4-2-2. Yeah.
He couldn't stay healthy in college. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So if you can't, oh cho if you can't stay healthy in college what makes you think you're gonna be able to stay healthy in the nfl yeah right hey

Speaker 8 xavia worthy

Speaker 8 yeah he goes to run 4-2-1 ocho yeah whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa yeah moving

Speaker 9 so

Speaker 9 i got a question

Speaker 9 excuse me if i'm wrong joe

Speaker 9 hey when you watch xavia worthy despite his 40 time the does it look he doesn't look as explosive it's Tyreek.

Speaker 8 He does not.

Speaker 9 Tyreek look like, it's like right now, he's gone. But Xavier Worthy ran a faster combine time, but he doesn't look that fast until he gets gone.
It's like

Speaker 8 he's a build-up guy. Right.
You know, some cars, Ocho, you just step

Speaker 8 like electric versus gas. Right.
Yeah. Like if you, if anybody out there that have an electric car, you know, you step on it, it doesn't require that spark.
Right. It's gone.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 You look at Tyree. You look at Tyreek.

Speaker 8 Tyreek looks, when you watch Tyreek run, when you watch the very first time, I say, damn, he looked, I say, maybe it's, maybe it's me. I say, some people just look fast.

Speaker 8 You know what I'm saying, oh, Joe, we see them. And it's one thing to like to see a person up close and personal, but to watch somebody from the television and say, damn, he looked fast.

Speaker 9 Yeah, imagine the person.

Speaker 8 Tyreek looks explosive.

Speaker 8 You could tell, but you could tell the way he built. Right.

Speaker 8 Look at how compact he is. Look at the muscle, the musculature.
You could tell the way he walked. Oh, yeah.
You could look at certain guys. Oh, he could do a backflip.

Speaker 8 He could do certain things. That's how Tyreek looks.
Tyreek looks like that.

Speaker 8 Xavier Word is fast, but you got to realize Xavier Word is what, 160? Tyreek, like 190.

Speaker 9 Really? You think so?

Speaker 8 Tyreek? Yeah.

Speaker 8 He lost weight.

Speaker 8 Remember, he said he dropped weight. So he might be

Speaker 8 180, 185. Yeah, so he might, he might be.
Xavier Worthy like 165.

Speaker 9 And then

Speaker 9 you know who Xavier Worthy reminds me of? Who that? They have the same type of running style. They have the same gait too.

Speaker 9 And it looks like they're not running until somebody's trying to catch them or the ball is in the air. Yeah.
That goddamn Ted Gin.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You remind your guy, I don't know if you remember him, Ocho, James Jett.

Speaker 8 James Jett from the Raiders.

Speaker 9 From the Raiders. Yeah.

Speaker 8 james jett was an alternate on the four by on the four by one that won the gold medal in 92 at the olympics uh-huh

Speaker 8 lord have mercy because you know the raiders always been enamored with speed yeah they've always had they've always had guys that can run fast they had willie gaunt who they had sam gratty who won the silver medal in the olympics was on the four by four in 80 uh uh dada uh they had swerving mervin for nandance they've always had guys that could fly at that position you remember when they they drafted Darius Hayward Bay, Ocho, because he ran 4-3-2.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Now, catching the football was a problem. Running fast was not a problem.

Speaker 9 Hey, look, because you can have all that speed, but if you don't know how to use it and get open hell, it's useless.

Speaker 8 It is.

Speaker 8 And I tell people, man, you're not that fast. I say, all speed do is get you to the safety faster.
They get knocked out.

Speaker 9 That's a good one.

Speaker 8 This 4-5, 4-6 is clearly fast enough. Yeah, it is.
All you're doing is get to that safety. So

Speaker 8 he dropped the ham on you. But look, you're going to make mistakes, but think about what you've done.
You drafted Jalen Hurts. You drafted Jalen Carter.
You drafted Jordan Davis.

Speaker 8 You joined Cooper DeJohn. You drafted Landon Dickinson.
Look at the guy. You found Jordan Maielata.
Look at the guy. Damn.
Howie, what you want to be?

Speaker 8 Howie, the baseball player that mad that he struck out, he done got three home runs and a double. He straight out of last plate appearance.
He like damn. I messed up.
Bro,

Speaker 8 Howie,

Speaker 8 bro, you that?

Speaker 8 Devontae Smith.

Speaker 8 Look at the picks that he's got, Dojo, since he got that wrong.

Speaker 9 Listen, he's playing, he's playing humble. I obviously, I don't think Howie understands.
Listen, I'm not a part of

Speaker 9 NFL offices or management or GMs or people in positions of power. But if anything, what Howie and Jeffrey Lurie have done the past, what, five, six years?

Speaker 9 Yeah, they the goddamn blueprint on how to operate and build a winning team.

Speaker 9 I mean, to me, look at the defense.

Speaker 9 Hell, look at the offense. So if I'm in the NFL and I'm an executive of some sort, hey, we need to piggyback and steal what they're doing over here.
It's a copycat league anyway. Absolutely.

Speaker 9 On the field. People watching film and stealing stuff that works the previous week on an opponent that you're playing.
Hell, they might as well do the same thing.

Speaker 8 It's easier to say than done. You don't think, hey, man, I could do that.
I might as well cross over the country, but you don't, you're not Beyonce.

Speaker 8 But, man, you see what Michael, you're not Michael. You're not Prince.
You're not Usher. So it's easy to say, this is what you should do,

Speaker 8 but you're not one of them to be able to do it. It's easy to say, man, you see what Howie doing, but you ain't got Howie's eye.

Speaker 8 You don't know what Howie's looking for when he looks for a particular player. Yeah, it's easy to say, man, look at Ozzie.

Speaker 8 How many Hall of Famous did he draft? Yeah. Jonathan Nathanogda and Ray Lewis on the, I think, the all 70,

Speaker 8 the 100th anniversary team. And Reed also.
So you got three guys that's on the 100th anniversary team. Yeah.
Hey, I'm going to be three guys, first battle Hall of Famer.

Speaker 8 Suggs is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Lamar Jackson is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 The funny thing when I think about it, Joe, is Joe just said it clear as day earlier. When the lights are on, what do they look like? in between those lines on the grass.

Speaker 9 There's a lot of film on everybody before you're drafting.

Speaker 9 Hell, goddamn, it's common sense.

Speaker 9 I don't care what you ran the 40 in let's say you did run a slow time how am i gonna knock you when i know what i'm getting when it's time to play the actual game of football the game of football isn't isn't ran it's not it's not it's not played in a straight line anyway this ain't track on so having speed and just another great factor to add to what you can do but jared rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall ocho huh Jared Rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he ran 406.

Speaker 9 Technical sound.

Speaker 9 He ran 06.

Speaker 9 he was technically sound but he had he he had something we call football speed that's what you need football speed it's it's a difference and we know emmitt might be the slowest running back yeah he got the most rushing yards oh yeah yeah

Speaker 8 yeah so when you look at it we we do we put a lot of emphasis on speed ojo but at the end of the day can you play the game of football that's it right that's it i'll listen this ain't olympics we hey we got olympians we're gonna let noah lives we're gonna let kidda beneric we're gonna let Rye.

Speaker 8 We're going to let Dog handle that. Can you play football? Because at the end of the day, we play a game called football.
And it's not in a straight line. You're going to have to move.

Speaker 8 You're going to have to be, you're going to have to have to react.

Speaker 8 And the number one thing, you can't be afraid. Now, look, there's a certain level.
It's hard to say a player is soft because it takes a certain type of crazy.

Speaker 8 It takes a certain type of person to play the game of football.

Speaker 9 Well, not anymore.

Speaker 8 Not anymore.

Speaker 9 Now, during your era, doing my area, doing my era, it takes a certain level of crazy.

Speaker 9 The way the game is now, where it's favored and it's handicapped to defense, man, you can play out there catching with one hand, man.

Speaker 8 That's why you see all of them going across the middle. Hey, and take it selfies.
You got guys talking like this.

Speaker 8 Boy, then buff,

Speaker 9 but Joe back, boy, Joe, back in them 2000s, boy, but in them early 2000s, and before

Speaker 9 going across that middle, going across that middle

Speaker 9 alligator arms.

Speaker 9 Man, listen, is that man?

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Speaker 8 Terry McLaurin came off the pup list amid contract tensions with the commanders. Despite the contract standoff, hold-ins, trade requests, Terry McLaurin will soon be practicing with the Commanders.

Speaker 8 The team announced today that he has been activated from the pup list. Ocho, could Terry removal from the pup list mean contract extension is on the way?

Speaker 9 Yeah, probably. Probably something is looming.

Speaker 9 They're almost there. It's probably not where it needs to be, but the fact that they think they're going to practice

Speaker 9 is a good thing.

Speaker 9 He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt, if I'm not mistaken. He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt before he's able to play,

Speaker 9 before he was able to play in a live game,

Speaker 9 which would be September, I'm assuming, what, September, what, 7th, maybe or 13th?

Speaker 8 What at, Ocho? Huh? What at?

Speaker 9 No, in a live game, a real game.

Speaker 9 He didn't miss the preseason.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 I know he definitely not finna play

Speaker 8 with the last preseason game. No.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 9 I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries. It's going to be so different.

Speaker 9 It's going to be so different. The fact that he wasn't able to go through training camp.

Speaker 8 Ocho, you took the word right out of my mouth.

Speaker 8 I'm saying to myself, and I'm thinking to myself, and I say, I know Ocho is thinking this. Man, I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in eight, nine months.
And

Speaker 8 my first real game is going to be a real game.

Speaker 8 I couldn't imagine it, Ocho.

Speaker 9 I wouldn't want that.

Speaker 8 No, hell no.

Speaker 9 Honestly, I would tell my agent, listen, if we get this deal done,

Speaker 9 I'm going to go practice.

Speaker 9 If there's a chance that we're getting this deal done, I'm going to go practice because I need people pushing. I need people pulling.
I need to be fighting through contact.

Speaker 9 Right, man, forget that, man. Because

Speaker 9 I'm telling you, the body will tear up.

Speaker 9 The body will tear up trying to go from zero to 100 without putting it through that rigoro. That's what I'm going to call it.

Speaker 8 You got to condition your body

Speaker 8 for the stresses that it's going to endure during the season.

Speaker 8 In order to run fast, you got to practice fast. You hear what she said? Hey, I wanted to be on the ground.
It's hard. Would you miss that kind of time, Ocho?

Speaker 8 You're not going to miss that kind of time and just pick right up.

Speaker 8 It's just not.

Speaker 8 You sit and I agree with you. You kind of like

Speaker 8 you just hold your breath, like, man, please, no soft tissue injury, no soft tissue injuries, please. No groins, no quads, no hamstring, no calves, no adductors, none of that.

Speaker 8 Because, like you said, Ocho, you going just like that. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You've been cruising. You've been cruising.

Speaker 8 And then all of a sudden, you step on the

Speaker 9 gas out the blue. And what normally happens, something got to give.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 8 Man.

Speaker 8 But hopefully they can come to an agreement real soon. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs could make NFL and Super Bowl history this upcoming season.

Speaker 8 There have only been one instance in which two franchises played each other three times in the Super Bowl, and that's the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers, 75, 79, 95.

Speaker 8 After the Eagles face one another two of the three big games, the Chiefs are currently to have the highest odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl, what is that, 60?

Speaker 8 60 in February of 2026. This would make the franchises the second of their kind to play one another on three separate occasions on the biggest stage.

Speaker 8 To add, no other quarterbacks in the history, no quarterbacks have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl. Something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 9 it sounds good, but you want me to tell you

Speaker 9 coming out of the AFC this year?

Speaker 8 You got to worry about winning your division. You ain't coming out of nowhere

Speaker 9 have you noticed the bengals have been playing in the uh in the preseason right yep okay

Speaker 8 all I know all I know is when L Jack is on the field Cincinnati can't win I just want to I just want to remember I be L Jack if on the field Cincinnati can't win

Speaker 9 this is the new year you think about the past

Speaker 9 I'm trying to understand why you think about the past and this is 20 if we we in 2025 you telling me what the the the Baltimore Ravens did in the past. I know what's going to happen this year.

Speaker 9 The Cincinnati Bengals, for the first time in years, have let the starters play in the preseason.

Speaker 9 That's to let you know that there's going to be a difference come week one when the regular season starts.

Speaker 9 So, what the Ravens did last year, any years before that, don't mean nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season and 2025.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Y'all defense still suspect.

Speaker 8 Team record after winning the MVP in 2016. Here we go.
Cam won the MVP in 2015. 2016, they were 6-10.
Matt Ryan won it in 2016. They were 10 and 6 in 2017.
Tom Brady won it in 2017.

Speaker 8 They were 11 and 5. Patrick Mahomes won it in 2018.
They were 12 and 4. Lamar Jackson in 2019.
They were 11 and 5.

Speaker 8 Rogers won it back-to-back years. In 2020, they were 13-4.
And in 2021, they were 8-9. Mahomes won it again in 2022, 11-6.
Lamar Jackson, 2023, they were 12-5. Josh Allen, 2024,

Speaker 8 will remain to be seen what their record will be.

Speaker 9 Right, right.

Speaker 8 Zach Wilson put together a solid starting Dolphins second preseason game. He completed 15 of 23 passes, 151 yards, and a touchdown.

Speaker 8 He missed a couple of would-be touchdowns, deep throw throw, pass, deep, a pass to D

Speaker 8 Eskridge that was on the throne. Rookie Quinn Ewarts

Speaker 8 improved on his debut,

Speaker 8 completing 11 of 16 with a pair of touchdowns to fellow rookie Theo Weeks Jr.

Speaker 9 Hey, wait, wait, who did you say had a great debut?

Speaker 8 What's the name he gave you?

Speaker 9 The first name you said.

Speaker 8 Oh, Zach Wilson, completing 15 of 20.

Speaker 9 Zach Wilson.

Speaker 9 Zach Wilson. That's my my dog.

Speaker 9 That's my dog.

Speaker 8 Okay. You do realize if he played for the Dolphins, y'all probably, y'all are not going to the playoffs, right?

Speaker 9 We're going to be straight. We'll be there.

Speaker 9 We'll be there. But again, Zach Wilson looked good today.
He did.

Speaker 9 Quinn Errors, based on how he looked last week, Euras, he looked better this week.

Speaker 8 Yes, he did. Absolutely.

Speaker 9 That's what you want to see.

Speaker 8 You want to see improvement.

Speaker 9 Exactly. Exactly.
So I like it. i think dolphins they coming out the afc east what you think about that

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Speaker 8 that's what i think about that i think you owe something hey your face boy that was funny

Speaker 9 that's what i think i think you owe something Hold on, so you're not, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 I don't like the way you sound whereas if you're trying to say the dolphins don't have any chance in the afc east they ain't got a chance look to play football anything can happen you ain't gonna put no money that the dolphins gonna gonna be the uh the afc east representative gonna win that division

Speaker 9 so so you're telling me you've already given buffalo the division already And we don't know what's going to happen? Are you just saying that because they have to be able to do that?

Speaker 8 Take the team with the best quarterback.

Speaker 9 okay.

Speaker 8 All right,

Speaker 9 I like where you're going.

Speaker 8 I'm taking team with the best quarterback, I like where you're going. I'm taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division

Speaker 8 to a

Speaker 8 field.

Speaker 9 You're taking Josh Allen over Drake May,

Speaker 8 yeah.

Speaker 9 You sure, yeah,

Speaker 9 okay. I just want to see what you're going to say.
Okay, okay,

Speaker 8 sure am.

Speaker 9 Okay, so when Drake May and goddamn Stefan Diggs look like Mark

Speaker 9 Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton, then what you gonna say?

Speaker 8 They still got to do something with Josh Allen.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 8 B.

Speaker 8 All right. Tell somebody.

Speaker 8 Josh Allen is him.

Speaker 8 I wish I'd tell you something different.

Speaker 9 What you trying to say? Hold on. Are you trying to say my quarterback is not him?

Speaker 8 You trying to say two is not him can't stay healthy can't play in the cold

Speaker 9 i don't i don't i don't like your attitude i don't like your tone they gotta do it be

Speaker 8 i don't get us a you better tell me

Speaker 9 the funny thing the fact that you have no confidence in us i mean that

Speaker 8 y'all gonna play the game but i ain't put no money i wouldn't put no money on but on uh y'all to win the division i would not

Speaker 8 y'all probably got great odds too

Speaker 9 You wouldn't put money on

Speaker 9 the Dolphins. The Dolphins.

Speaker 8 Nope.

Speaker 9 We had we

Speaker 8 had what?

Speaker 8 Okay. All right.

Speaker 8 The answer is no.

Speaker 9 Listen, I can't wait. I can't wait till football season.

Speaker 8 Me either.

Speaker 9 I can't wait till football season because we're going to have some nice little side bets. I'm going to pay this time.

Speaker 8 Just like you did last time.

Speaker 8 I'm going to make him stall. I'm going to make him fall.

Speaker 8 Aston Genty had seven carries for 33 yards today, Ocho. His 13-yard run was part of an eight-play, 41-yard scoring drive that ended with him piring his way into the end zone for a one-yard touchdown.

Speaker 8 After the game, Genty said, I've arrived, and it's time to keep going and make plays for this team.

Speaker 8 I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say, I've arrived in the preseason, but I'm going to take his word for it. He ran with authority today.
I like the run he had.

Speaker 8 Punished the defender, lowered his shoulder.

Speaker 8 I mean, he run with power. I mean, he's not,

Speaker 8 he's not an overly big guy. I mean, what's he? 5'8, 5'9?

Speaker 8 But he's powerfully built. You look at the way he's built from waist down,

Speaker 8 you can tell

Speaker 8 he's a power runner.

Speaker 8 But listen, hey,

Speaker 9 I saw one eclipse. Well, somebody, somebody caught him.
I saw the one where he ran dude over, but on the other side, somebody caught him good.

Speaker 8 Did they?

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah. I don't know if that was a safety coming down.
He'll, I don't know who it was, but you, hey,

Speaker 8 you, but well, you might want to get word to him. You got to pick and choose your battles now.
Yeah, hey, he's not. You're not there to run through.

Speaker 8 You're not finna run through people like you did at Boise estate.

Speaker 5 That's absolutely.

Speaker 9 It's the preseason. He doesn't understand yet.

Speaker 9 So he's going to learn real quick. Boy, some grown men out there, boy.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So, but I thought, you know, look,

Speaker 8 like Gino, Geno has great command of the offense. Geno is very, very familiar with Pete Carroll.

Speaker 9 That's a good thing. When got him,

Speaker 8 so it's going to be interesting to see how the Raiders do. Look,

Speaker 8 that division is good. Yeah, very good.
Got Mahomes in that division. They won the division probably like, what, the last eight years? They probably won the division every year since, what, 2016?

Speaker 9 Is it 2018? I thought it was.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you got to realize because they had Alex Mills, they won the division.

Speaker 8 They won the division every year. Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback, and he started in 2019, 2018.

Speaker 8 He got drafted in 17.

Speaker 9 The last time the Broncos

Speaker 8 won the division, they won the

Speaker 8 Super Bowl. That was 2015.

Speaker 9 Okay, that was the last. So since then, since 2016, the Chiefs have been winning.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But you got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bonitz, and Gino.

Speaker 8 Look, that might be the second best division in football as far as quarterbacks. I think the AFC, I think the AFC North.
Whoa, whoa, with.

Speaker 9 Hello, NFC East. What are we talking about?

Speaker 8 Yeah, let's see. Hello.
Who's the NFC?

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 I think for me, it's clear that

Speaker 8 it's the AFC North.

Speaker 8 You know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division. Right, right.

Speaker 8 Okay, Rogers.

Speaker 8 And then, yeah.

Speaker 8 Even with Cleveland, we ain't giving Cleveland nothing with

Speaker 8 those two top four guys and Rogers. And then, you know, okay,

Speaker 8 I can see that. I can see that.

Speaker 8 The NFC East with Russ, Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Dak,

Speaker 8 but Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nicks. Yeah.
There ain't no slouch now.

Speaker 9 I like both too, man.

Speaker 9 I really, really like both.

Speaker 8 I like both.

Speaker 8 If somebody said, if some, if someone said, I would take the AFC, the AFC

Speaker 8 West quarterbacks, I wouldn't fight them. Nah.

Speaker 8 Because you got Mahomes.

Speaker 8 Mahomes has been to five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert.
You got a Bo Knicks who's up and coming.

Speaker 8 Now, Hurts is Hurts is one of the Super Bowl he's been to. Russ has been the two, one, one.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 Dak,

Speaker 8 where we putting Dak, you take Dak or you take Justin Herbert?

Speaker 9 That's a good one.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 That's a chat who y'all like. You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert.

Speaker 9 Hey, I mean, half the chat is going to say they're going to say Justin Herbert because they just don't like the damn Cowboys.

Speaker 8 No, I think

Speaker 8 There ain't nothing that kid can't do. That kid got an arm.
He is immensely arm-talented. Yeah.

Speaker 8 He's more athletic than you think.

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Speaker 8 And he can flat out throw it.

Speaker 8 Oh, Joe, we got great news. Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two.
Cam became the first SEC player to record a 2,000-yard passing season, a 1,000-yard rushing season.

Speaker 8 He had 2,854 yards, 1,473 yards rushing. He accounted for 51 touchdowns, 30 passing, 21 rushing, one receiving, while helping Auburn go 14-0 and winning the national championship against Oregon.

Speaker 8 Cam swept the major college football awards. 2,000, he won the Maxwell, Walter Camp, the Manning, the Davio Bryan,

Speaker 8 AP Player of the Year, as well.

Speaker 8 as the Heisman Trophy. Oh, Joe, I just got a simple question.
Talk to me. Why won't Carolina show that man the love that Auburn is showing you?

Speaker 9 I'm not sure, huh?

Speaker 8 I'm not sure. He said, remember, we did, I think we did a topic, was it last year that he took his son and there were no pictures of him on the wall at the facility?

Speaker 9 Oh, that's right. He did.
He did say that. He did say that.

Speaker 9 I don't know, huh? I don't know. That's something we would have to probably ask him.

Speaker 9 That internally, I'm not sure how things ended. No, we have to.

Speaker 8 You can't ask Cam because Cam don't know why. We need to ask the organization.

Speaker 8 Temper.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 9 ain't no telling how things things ended with Cam, even though we came back.

Speaker 9 It's no telling. You'll never know.
Especially for a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things that he did for the Carolina Panthers. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Took him to the Super Bowl. One of the MVPs.

Speaker 8 Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Pro Bowler, all-pro.

Speaker 8 But that's amazing. Congratulations, Cam.

Speaker 8 Very deserving.

Speaker 8 I can make a case that's the greatest college season for a quarterback. I know Joe had, I know Joe numbers.

Speaker 8 but Joe ain't throwing putting up those numbers with the receivers that Cam had.

Speaker 8 He ain't doing that.

Speaker 8 And I don't know. I think he had one.

Speaker 8 I don't think he had an offensive lineman. I mean, did anybody play more than a year in the NFL

Speaker 8 on Cam's team? On the offense? Because I know he had a defensive lineman that went like, I think, top 10 to the Lions.

Speaker 8 But if you look at his offensive weapons and what he was was able to do,

Speaker 9 well, Cam was a real deal, baby.

Speaker 8 Man, Cam was crazy with it.

Speaker 8 I mean, off the chain. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I don't know if we'll ever see.

Speaker 8 Lamar had an unbelievable season. I mean, the year he won the Heisman.
Well, actually, the year that he finished, that he, the next year, he was even better than the year that he won the Heisman.

Speaker 8 If you go back and look at it,

Speaker 8 because he threw for like 3,500 yards and had 1500 yards rushing

Speaker 9 that's crazy

Speaker 8 but congratulations cam university of auburn no one else will be able to wear the number two oh cho draft kings bit the nfl team of the best nicknames of all time who should be added okay you got the honey badger tyron matthew You got Ted Hendrix, who is the mad story.

Speaker 8 Sean Merriman, lights out.

Speaker 8 You got Hacksaw, Jack Reynolds. You got the Tasmanian Devil.

Speaker 8 You got the assassin, Jack Tatum. You got Prime.
You got Ed Tutal Jones.

Speaker 8 You got the fridge,

Speaker 8 William Perry. You got the kitchen, Nate Newton.
You got the Minister of Defense, Reggie White, rest your soul. Dick Knight, Turing Lane, rest his soul.
And then you got Andre Bad Moon Rising.

Speaker 8 You got Big Phil, Highway 63, Gene Upshaw,

Speaker 8 Bag of Donuts, Pork Chop,

Speaker 8 The Intellectual Assassin. I don't know about him.
Megatron. Megatron got a cool.
Legatron, Beast Mode, Broadway Joe, the Face Cleaver, and the Avatar. I mean, somebody bitches make it.

Speaker 9 Jimmy Graham. Is that Jimmy Graham as the avatar?

Speaker 8 Yes, yes.

Speaker 9 I mean, listen, all of these NFL nicknames are good.

Speaker 9 They're all good, but we all know who the best nickname is of all time.

Speaker 8 They ain't got you up there, Ocho. Oh, that's defense.
I guess we got to ask them. No, they got offense.
They got offensive, yeah, Andre Riser.

Speaker 9 Yeah, they had nicknames, but I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name and reinventing myself in the prime of my career.

Speaker 9 That was from a branding, marketing aspect, so which makes it obviously the greatest nickname of all time because I really bought in to the character in general.

Speaker 9 And that character in general has carried carried me years beyond the game of football. Hell, I ain't took a snap in goddamn 37 years.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 9 these are all. I mean,

Speaker 9 I like the intellectual assassin. Who is that that played for the Chargers?

Speaker 8 Is that Ron Mix?

Speaker 9 The intellectual assassin. That's a good one.

Speaker 9 And you know, they don't even have, they don't, I mean, they don't have Walter Payton. They don't even got sweetness on there.

Speaker 9 The intellectual upset, but hey, listen, Ocho Cinco. I mean, it speaks for itself.
The greatest nickname of all time because I actually was 8-5 and when it changed the name, huh?

Speaker 9 Understood, I saw a vision. Like when I do spoken word, there's a vision.
There's a very long term where

Speaker 9 if you're not in deep thought with me, you're not going to understand it.

Speaker 8 Who's the intellectual assassin?

Speaker 8 I ain't never heard of it. I mean, Bambi.

Speaker 8 Who was Bambi? Lance Allworth.

Speaker 9 Where is what?

Speaker 8 The Chargers.

Speaker 9 Okay, okay, okay. Oh, he did.
He ran. He ran like he ran like a

Speaker 8 Jack Tater was the assassin. Yeah.
Yeah. No, the intellectual assassin.

Speaker 8 The Chargers. He was with the Chargers.

Speaker 8 John

Speaker 8 Jack Tater rest his soul. He's out of Ohio State.

Speaker 8 Ron Mix. I thought it was Ron Mix.

Speaker 8 I think he played, I think, Ocho, I think he played like 12 years and had two holding penalties in 12 years.

Speaker 9 That's it?

Speaker 8 Yeah, thank you. That's exactly what I said.

Speaker 8 Jeddah, Justin Jefferson, returns to practice. His first time in 25 days, he continues to recover from a left hamstring strain.
He suffered last month. He has a history of hamstring injuries.

Speaker 8 He missed seven games in 2023 because of a hamstring strain to the other leg. Prompted the Vikings to take a slow approach to his recovery.

Speaker 8 Today, he participated in warm-ups, individual drills, but sat out 7-on-7, 11-on-11. Jefferson won't play in the Vikings' final preseason game, but do expect to start week one.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 He got some imbalances or something. He needs to get that looked at.

Speaker 9 yeah. Yeah,

Speaker 9 what do you think it is, especially when it comes to soft tissue injuries like that?

Speaker 9 What do you think that comes from? Because I don't think he has an injury history,

Speaker 8 yeah. I don't think he doesn't look like he quad dominant.
Sometimes, if a muscle overpowers the other, it will pull, it will pull.

Speaker 8 So, if you know, you quad dominant sometimes or something, so he might, I mean, he might need to get his hips, he might be out of the line or something, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 Uh,

Speaker 8 if you're fatigued,

Speaker 8 the muscle, uh, you know, weak, weak muscles pull, right

Speaker 8 but i i mean

Speaker 8 you're dealing with elite athletes and so i know they have the best physio and the best everything around he might you know maybe his mechanics are off or something but he might need to take a look at that hey

Speaker 9 uh

Speaker 9 i'm not gonna say nothing i'm not gonna say nothing obviously you know my stance when it comes on to soft tissue injuries when you know my stance on when it comes to getting hurt, but we know how valuable Justin Jefferson is to that team.

Speaker 9 And I'm glad he took 25 days and they went slow with him. I think he's a player that training camp would be beneficial, but to get him back 100% healthy.
So

Speaker 9 he's not one that needs training camp like that. But I don't want him having to go from zero to 100

Speaker 9 without having to wear and tear that training camp ring because what's going to happen?

Speaker 9 You get to get pulled and pushed.

Speaker 8 That tug.

Speaker 8 That's why I used to hey guys, man, don't tug me.

Speaker 8 Hey, if I beat you, just let me go.

Speaker 8 I'm pulling Ocho and you tug me. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Now I'm going to turn around and swing on you.

Speaker 8 That's a tough division because we saw the Bears, and you and I both think the Bears are going to be better this year than they were last year. Absolutely.
You believe you say, hey,

Speaker 8 the Lions, I don't see them taking a step back. No,

Speaker 8 I don't. Then the Packers.
You like the Packers. Jordan loves that receiving course, Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 8 So that is a very tough division. You can ill afford.
Now, they're already going to be the first three games.

Speaker 8 They're going to be without Jordan Addison because of some issues that he had off the field. So they're going to be without him.

Speaker 8 And the last thing that you need to happen, a guy coming back from a soft tissue injury, and he retweaks it.

Speaker 8 Because now he's probably going to be down double the amount of time that he missed to begin with. Exactly.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I hope he gets healthy. I hope he stays healthy because

Speaker 9 I want to see him on the field.

Speaker 8 Bless you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 8 That man done cover it. He covers his mouth after he done sneezed.

Speaker 8 Excuse me. Like, damn.

Speaker 9 It creeped up on me. I know it was coming.
I ain't know what's coming.

Speaker 9 You don't know what's coming, huh?

Speaker 8 He made a little pure ail.

Speaker 9 What's that?

Speaker 8 Pure ail?

Speaker 9 Why you using that? I'm all the way in Wii.

Speaker 8 sick.

Speaker 9 I may get you sick. I'm all the way in Miami.
Hey.

Speaker 8 Boy, that thing you got right there that day said, you might have Ebola.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 8 I ain't lie. I don't know.
That would say they said they died in Liberty City. Say a monkey.
Say a monkey got escape. Yeah.
Say the monkey had Ebola.

Speaker 8 Say one of them dudes from Liberty City bit the monkey. The monkey bit him.
He had Ebola. Right.
And the monkey died.

Speaker 8 So if the monkey got Ebola, he beat the dude from Liberty City. What he got?

Speaker 9 Okay, you right. You right.
You're right. Ain't no telling.
Ain't no telling.

Speaker 8 Ain't no telling. I'm just trying to figure out how you sneeze and then cover your mouth and say, excuse me.

Speaker 9 It snuck up on me. I didn't know it was coming.
Like, that's what happened, when you really, when you're really sick, you don't, you know, it feels like I got a fever.

Speaker 8 I thought you didn't get sick. How you getting sick and you eat fast food? You ain't supposed to get sick, remember?

Speaker 9 I know.

Speaker 9 I'm probably going to be like this under one day. Matter of fact, you can hear my voice.
I sound like Barry White tonight. You hear?

Speaker 8 Most of the time when I talk, I got a high, a pitched squeaky voice but tonight i sound like like really sexy like for radio nah i just try to figure out you told me right chat y'all done heard this man say eating a big max and eating all that fast food he don't get sick

Speaker 8 i just tried to figure out what's really going on that's it well technically is i'm i'm not sick i'm like i'm i'm still i'm still here this is this is a minor setback are you sick did you not say you sick you just told us when you signed on on that you were sick yeah

Speaker 8 i'm good so are you or are you not sick yes or no

Speaker 9 yes at like halfway because if i was sick i wouldn't be i wouldn't be on here so i'm i'm able to do i'm able to work so i'm not sick sick so there's a difference so if you work from home if if you work from home and sick and you can't work right

Speaker 9 something really going on yeah yeah i i understand but some people Some people, when they get sick, sick, even if they are home, they can't do nothing. They can't function.

Speaker 9 See, I'm fighting through it. I'm fighting through it.
My body, on the inside, you know, my immune system, they're in there like this.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 9 And they in there going to work. So on the outside, I'm cold.
But on the ins, I mean, on the inside, I'm cold, but on the outside, I got the AC off and I'm sweating. But on the inside, I got chills.

Speaker 9 I mean, it's weird. So this doesn't happen to me often

Speaker 9 at all. So I'm going to be all right.
I'm going to be all right, though.

Speaker 8 Man, Ocho, you know what? I hate, I hate when guys,

Speaker 8 I'm a firm believer. If you limp into season, Ocho, you know how you coming out of it.

Speaker 9 Limping that up, baby.

Speaker 8 You limping out of? I just hate. I hate that for Jetta.
Because, man, you talking about off to a historic start?

Speaker 9 Absolutely.

Speaker 8 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 9 I think it's going to continue, though. I think it's going to be all right.
It's going to continue.

Speaker 8 I don't, I don't. Like I said, that's an extremely tough division.

Speaker 8 You could ill afford to have him and Addison out. Plus, you got JJ McCartney, who's in his second year, but this really is first year starting.

Speaker 8 You're asking an awful lot.

Speaker 8 You're asking an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out there

Speaker 8 and to do what you need him to do.

Speaker 8 What I just wanted to say,

Speaker 8 I just hope Ajeta can stay healthy for the entire season.

Speaker 8 They're going to need him. They got no chance.
They got no chance. Remember,

Speaker 8 KJ Osborne is in Washington.

Speaker 9 In Washington now, yeah.

Speaker 8 Addison is going to miss the first three. And then, you know,

Speaker 8 he warmed up today, but like you said, he didn't do 707. He didn't do 11 on 11.
And he's not going to play in the final preseason game, which is Friday or Saturday. Right.
So, boy,

Speaker 8 and it's just a turn. Hey, and then in 10 days, just go.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm hoping he's going to be all right.

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