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I think there's one who's pretty obvious, one guy didn't draft that's going to the Hall of Fame.

The mistakes kill me.

It made me think, why are we picking certain guys?

But if we don't make that mistake like that, we probably don't play in two Super Bowls in the last three years.

Don't overthink things.

When you're staring at a good player, just take them.

Not drafting JJ still haunts him to this day.

Yes.

Because think about who you took.

Look, the guy that he took, I played with his father, Monte Rager.

Jalen Rager is his son.

Yes, sir.

He got in awe of all the jumping high and running fast, and he overlooked the production that JJ Jeddah gave him on the field.

I asked Ozzy Newsom, who's one of the best GMs, to do it.

Drafted Jonathan.

His first two players he ever selected was Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis.

He selected Suggs.

He selected Lamar Jackson.

He selected Ed Reed.

We know what he's been able to do.

And I asked him, I said, Ozzy,

Suggs, Ocho, he said, Suggs ran 485 with tights and track spikes.

I said, well, why the hell you take a man that run 485?

He said, Shanna,

somebody got 23 sacks, I saw.

Somebody could bend the edge.

I don't need him to run 40 yards.

I just need to run 10.

Right.

And he can get off the ball.

So I believe, he said,

I'll never forget this.

He said, I believe what my eyes tell me.

He says, yes, when I'm watching film and a guy looks fast, he looks explosive, he looks strong.

Hopefully he comes to the combine.

Hopefully he tests well.

But if he doesn't, I base most of what I, what I judging on, but what I see on tape.

I'm going to trust my eyes.

Howie didn't trust his eyes.

He got enamored by, oh,

4-3, 4-sub, 4-4.

He got enamored by 40-plus inch vertical.

He got enamored by things that doesn't necessarily equate to being a great...

Because if if that was the case, hell, I just go get me a track guy.

Yeah.

Do you see when Noah Lyles is warming up?

Did you see how high he jumps up in the damn air?

Yeah.

His feet, his heels are at the height of somebody's head.

So that lets you know.

First of all, if a guy that fast, you know he's explosive, Ocho.

Yeah, absolutely.

Look at Tyreek.

You say Tyreek did them backflips.

You say, you say, you got to see this joke.

Yes, you could tell he's explosive.

Yes, sir.

Go ahead.

What you want to say about what you think about how he said, admitting that he made a mistake not drafting jenna well you know that that happens that happens obviously it's the eye test when it comes to scouts gms coaches uh and and personnel in general based off the eye test and not looking at numbers you look at justin jefferson and you look at jalen rager and you'll pick jalen reger based on what you see when it comes to the aesthetics of the position in itself.

So I can understand where he calls it, he calls it a mistake.

Actually, it's not a mistake because let's say you did go get Jenna.

You might not have the Super Bowls that you have.

you know you might not you know it's things things would have been different so everything went exactly how it was supposed to have supposed to go actually but um i'm i'm i'm upset well he stumbled into it because guess what the next year devontae smith came out and he was able to trade down to get devontae smith and a couple years later you trade and you get aj brown

so you got your big two

It did work itself out.

I was kind of upset.

I really wanted, I really wanted Brother Jalen Rager to

be great at the position because he had all the intangibles to be just that.

One of the things with him is mentally, mentally, I think he had lost his confidence at some point and he just wasn't able to regain it back because he has all the potential in the world to be one of the best in the league.

He just wasn't able to put it all together.

Hey, Arkan, Ocho,

do you think they put too much emphasis on like

the testing, the combine?

Yeah.

When it comes to football, meaning because there there are some guys who will not test well when it comes to combine, agility, quickness,

vertical.

But when you put them in between the lines, it's a big deal.

No lights come on.

They just know how to play, bro.

You know what I mean?

That's for basketball and football.

But

I see that in a lot of guys this year, obviously from watching Shadura.

you know uh i know i know we talk about him a lot but he looks like one of those type of guys you know what i mean when you get him in between the lines he just knows how to play bro You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Hell no.

He probably ain't going to test well in no combine and no 40 or no vertical leap or none of that.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

If somebody goes to the combine, they might not be.

We just had Taryn Armstead.

He goes to the combine to run 4-6.

Now people look at him.

Yeah.

You get a guy goes there and they might not be hurt or he might be a low.

Go run 4-3.

Yeah.

Because I can teach you everything else.

I can teach you to catch.

I can teach you to back pedal.

I can teach you to drop.

I can't teach you how to run fast.

Either you got that in you or you don't.

But also, also, it's a gift and a curse, being able to run that goddamn fast and them believing you becoming a project coming to the NFL.

Well, we can teach you all the intangibles, you know, to become a great player, whatever position you do play.

Sometimes it's hard.

Sometimes it's too late because if you're already in the NFL and you've been able to get by, you've been able to get by without the technique all this time.

Yeah.

Well, you got the technique at the next level, you're going to get exposed anyway, no matter how goddamn fast fast you are.

Unknown at that level, everybody runs 4-3 at the skill position.

Damn here.

Everybody, even the people that run 4-5 or run 4-6, that play receiver, whatnot,

they know how to manipulate all those that are fast to be able to get open and create separation.

So speed is just an ad.

It's like having a car unknown and you're throwing rims on there.

And once you get the rims on it, okay, that's the speed in general.

It's great to have, but you don't necessarily need it to be successful at what you do.

Let me know when to use it.

Yeah.

Have you ever heard anybody say size kill?

Have you ever heard somebody say

strength kills?

What do they say kill, Ocho?

Speed.

Speed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Speed.

I can't teach you that.

They say, well, he taught him.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I can teach you technique to make you faster than what you are, but that's in you.

Right.

If you think somebody like got that, you saying Boat was always fast.

Yes, sir.

it was always in him

he just found somebody to get it out of him yes sir so now ocho you look at it we look at guys and they're like man

what does everybody say i just ain't nobody said i want to do 24 reps ain't nobody said i want to do 40 inch vertical right 40 everybody say i want to run i want to run 4-3 i want to run 4-2

because that's what's going to grab the attention.

When Chris Johnson ran that 4-2-4.

Yeah.

Yeah.

John Ross got drafted in the first round because he ran 4-2-2.

Yeah.

He couldn't stay healthy in college.

Yeah.

So if you can't, oh, if you can't stay healthy in college,

what makes you think you're going to be able to stay healthy in the NFL?

Yeah.

Xavier worth it.

Yeah.

He goes to run 4-2-1, Ocho.

Yeah.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Yeah.

Moving.

So

I got a question.

Go ahead and quickly.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, Joe.

Hey, when you watch Xavier Worthy, despite his 40 time,

he doesn't look as explosive as Tyreek.

He does not.

Tyreek look like, it's like right now, he's gone.

But Xavier Worthy ran a faster combine time, but he doesn't look that fast until he gets going.

Yeah,

he's a build-up guy.

Right.

You know, some cars, Ocho, you just

like electric versus gas right yeah like if you if anybody out there that have an electric car you know you step on it it doesn't require that spark right it's gone yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you look at tyree you look at tyree

tyreek look when you watch tyree run when you watch the very first time i say damn he look i say maybe it's maybe it's me I say some people just look fast.

You know what I'm saying, OJo?

We see them.

And it's one thing to like to see a person up close and personal, but to watch somebody from the television and say damn he look fast yeah imagine person

tyreek looks explosive you could tell but you could tell the way he built right look at look at how compact he is look at the muscle the musculature you could tell the way he walked oh yeah you could look at certain guys oh he could do a backflip

he could do certain things that's how tyree look tyreek looks like that right xavier word is fast but you got to realize xavier word Worth is what?

160?

Tyreek, like 190.

Really?

You think so?

Tyreek?

Yeah.

He lost weight.

Remember, he said he dropped weight.

So he might be 180, 180, 185.

Yeah, so he might, he might be.

Xavier Worthy, like 165.

And then you talk to, you know who Xavier Worthy might remind me of?

Who that?

They the same type of running style.

They have the same gait too.

And it looks like they're not running until somebody's trying to catch them or the ball is in the air.

Yeah.

That goddamn Ted Gin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

You remind your guy, I don't know if you remember him, Ocho, James Jett.

James Jett.

From the Raiders, from the Raiders.

Yeah.

James Jett was an alternate on the four by one that won the gold medal in 92 at the Olympics.

Lord, have mercy.

Because you know, the Raiders always been enamored with speed.

Yeah.

They've always had guys that can run fast.

They had Willie Gaunt, who they had Sam Gratty, who won the silver medal in the Olympics, was on the 4x4 and 80 Doddock.

They had Swerving Mervyn for Nandanz.

They've always had guys that could fly at that position.

You remember when they drafted Darius Hayward Bay, Ocho, because he ran 4-3-2.

Oh, yeah.

Now, catching the football was a problem.

Running fast was not a problem.

Okay, look, because you can have all that speed, but if you don't know how to use it and get open hell, it's useless.

It is.

And I tell people, man, you're not that fast.

I say, all speed do is get you to the safety faster to get knocked out.

That's a good one.

This 4-5, 4-6 is clearly fast enough.

Yeah, it is.

All you're doing is get to that safety.

So

you drop the ham on you.

But look, you're going to make mistakes, but think about what you've done.

You drafted Jalen Hurts.

You drafted Jalen Carter.

You drafted Jordan Davis.

You joined Cooper DeJohn.

You drafted Landon Dickinson.

Look at the guy.

You found Jordan Maielata.

Look at the guy.

Damn.

Howie, what you want to be?

Howard, the baseball player that mad that he struck out, he done got three home runs and a double.

He straight out of last plate appears.

He's like, damn, I messed up.

Bro,

Howie,

bro, you that?

Devontae Smith.

Look at the picks that he's got, Docho, since he got that wrong.

Listen, he's playing humble.

Obviously, I don't think Howie understands.

Listen, I'm not a part of

NFL offices or management or GMs or people in positions of power.

But if anything, what Howie and

Jeffrey Lurie have done the past, what, five, six years?

They the goddamn blueprint on how to operate and build a winning team.

I mean, to me, look at the defense.

Hell, look at the offense.

So if I'm in the NFL and I'm an executive of some sort, hey, we need to piggyback and steal what they're they're doing over here it's a copycat league anyway absolutely on the field people watching film and stealing stuff that works the previous week on the opponent that you're playing yeah they might as well do the same thing it's easier said than done you don't think hey man i could do that i might as well cross over the country but you don't see you're not beyonce

but man you see what my you not michael you're not prince you're not usher so it's easy to say this is what you should do right but you're not one of them to be able to do it it's easy to say man you see what Howie doing, but you ain't got Howie's eye.

You don't know what Howie's looking for when he looks for a particular player.

Yeah, it's easy to say, man, look at Ozzie.

And Joe, how many Hall of Famers did he draft?

Yeah.

Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis on the, I think, the all 70, the 100th anniversary team.

And Reed also.

So you got three guys that's on the 100th anniversary team.

Yeah.

Hey,

three guys, first battle Hall of Famer.

Suggest is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

Lamar Jackson is going to be in the Hall of Fame.

The funny thing when I think about it, Joe, is Joe just said it clear as day earlier.

When the lights are on, what do they look like in between those lines on the grass?

There's a lot of film on everybody before you draft them.

Hell, goddamn, it's common sense.

I don't care what you ran the 40 in.

Let's say you did run a slow time.

How am I going to knock you when I know what I'm getting when it's time to play the actual game of football?

The game of football.

It's not played in a straight line anyway.

This ain't track, huh?

So having speed is just another great factor to add to what you can do.

Jerry Rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall, Ocho.

Huh?

Jerry Rice might be the slowest receiver in the hall.

Yeah, he ran for six.

Technical sound.

He ran for six.

He was technically sound, but

he had something we call football speed.

That's what you need.

Football speed.

It's a different.

And we know Emmett might be the slowest running back.

Yeah.

He got the most rushing yards.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So when you look at it, we do.

We put a lot of emphasis on speed, Ojo.

But at the end of the day, can you play the game of football?

That's it.

Right.

That's it.

Listen, this ain't Olympics.

Hey, we got Olympians.

We're going to let Noah Louves.

We're going to let Kennedy Beneri.

We're going to let Rye.

We're going to let all of them have all that.

Can you play football?

Because at the end of the day, we play a game called football.

And it's not in a straight line.

You're going to have to move.

You're going to have to be.

You're going to have to have to react.

And the number one thing, you can't be afraid.

Now, look, there is a certain level.

It's hard to say a player is soft because it takes a certain type of crazy.

It takes a certain type of person to play the game of football.

Well, not anymore.

Not anymore.

Now, during your era, doing my area, during my era, it takes a certain level of crazy.

The way the game is now, where it's favored and it's handicapped to defense, man, you can play that there catching with one hand, man.

That's why you see all of them going across the middle.

Hey, and take it selfie.

You got guys on the top of like this.

Boy, then bus

but joe back boy joe back in them 2000s boy but in them early 2000s

going across that middle

alligator arms man listen if that man

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Terry McLaurin came off the pub list amid contract tensions with the commanders.

Despite the contract standoff, hold-ins, trade requests, Terry McLaurin will soon be practicing with the commanders.

The team announced today that he has been activated from the pup list.

Ocho, could Terry removal from the pup list mean contract extension is on the way?

Yeah, probably.

Probably something is looming.

They're almost there.

It's probably not where it needs to be, but the fact that they think they're going to practice

is a good thing.

He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt, if I'm not mistaken.

He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt before he's able to play,

before he was able to play in a live game,

which would be September.

I'm assuming, what, September, what, 7th, maybe or 13th?

What at Ocho?

Huh?

What at?

No, in a live game, a real game.

He didn't miss, he didn't miss the preseason.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know he definitely not finna play uh, uh, the last preseason game, no.

So, um, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries.

It's going to be so different.

It's going to be so different.

The fact that he wasn't able to go through training camp.

Ocho, you took the word right out of my mouth.

I'm saying to myself, and I'm thinking to myself, and I say, I know Ocho thinking this, man, I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in eight, nine months.

And my first, in my first real game, is going to be a real game.

I couldn't imagine it, Ocho.

I wouldn't want that.

No, hell no.

Honestly, I would tell my agent, listen, if we get this deal done,

I'm going to go practice.

If there's a chance that we get this deal done, I'm going to go practice because I need people pushing.

I need people pulling.

I need to be fighting through contact.

Yes.

Right, man, forget that, man.

I'm telling you, the body will tear up.

The body will tear up trying to go from zero to 100 without putting it through that that rigamaro that's what i'm gonna call it

you gotta you gotta you gotta continue condition your body yeah

for the stresses that it's gonna endure during the season in order to run fast you gotta practice fast you hear what she said hey i wanted to be on the ground it's hard would you miss that kind of time ocho

You're not going to miss that kind of time and just pick right up.

It's just not.

sit,

and I agree with you.

You kind of like,

you just hold your breath like, man, please, no soft tissue injury, no soft tissue injuries, please.

No groin, no quads, no hamstring, no, no calves, no adductors, none of that.

Because like you said, Ocho, you going just like that.

Yeah.

You've been cruising, you've been cruising.

And then all of a sudden, you step on the

step on the gas, out the blue.

And what normally happens, something got to give.

Yep.

Man.

But hopefully they can come to an agreement real soon.

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After the Eagles face one another two of the three big games, the Chiefs are currently to have the highest odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl, what is that, 60?

Yes, 60 in February of 2026.

This would make the franchises the second of their kind to play one another on three separate occasions on the biggest stage.

To add, no other quarterbacks in the history, no quarterbacks have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl.

Something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.

I mean,

it sounds good, but you want me to tell you

coming out of the AFC this year?

You got to worry about winning your division.

You ain't coming out of nowhere.

Have you noticed the Bengals have been playing in the preseason, right?

Yep.

Okay.

All I know.

All I know is when L Jack is on the field, Cincinnati can't win.

I just want to, I just want to remember.

When L Jack, if on the field, Cincinnati can't win.

This is the new year.

You think about the past.

I'm trying to understand why you think about the past.

And this is 20, we in 2025.

You telling me what

the Baltimore Ravens did in the past.

I know what's going to happen this year.

The Cincinnati Bengals, for the first time in years, have let the starters play in the preseason.

That's to let you know that there's going to be a difference come week one when the regular season starts.

so what the ravens did last year or any years before that don't mean nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season and 2025.

okay

yeah y'all defense still suspect

team record after winning the mvp in 2016 here we go cam won the mvp in 2015 2016 they were 6 and 10.

matt ryan won it in 2016 they were 10 and 6 in 2017.

Tom Brady won it in 2017.

They were 11-5.

Patrick Mahomes won it in 2018.

They were 12-4.

Lamar Jackson in 2019.

They were 11-5.

Rogers won it back-to-back years.

In 2020, they were 13-4.

And in 2021, they were 8-9.

Mahomes won it again in 2022, 11-6.

Lamar Jackson.

2023, they were 12-5.

Josh Allen, 2024.

We'll remain to be seen what their record will be.

Right, right.

Zach Wilson put together a solid start in Dolphins' second preseason game.

He completed 15 of 23 passes, 151 yards, and a touchdown.

He missed a couple of would-be touchdowns, deep throw pass, deep pass to D.

Eskridge that was underthrown.

Rookie Quinn Ewarts

improved on his debut,

completing 11 of 16 with a pair of touchdowns to fellow rookie Theo Weeks Jr.

Hey, wait, wait, who did you say had a had a great debut what's the name he gave

the first name you said oh uh uh zach wilson completed 15

yeah

zach wilson zach wilson that's my that's my dog that's that's my dog okay you do realize if the if he played for the dolphins y'all probably y'all are not going to the playoffs right we're going to be straight we'll be there

We'll be there.

But again, Zach Wilson looked good today.

He did.

Quinn errors based on how he looked last week he yours he looked better this week yes he did absolutely that's that's what you want to see you you want you want to see improvement exactly exactly so i like it i think dolphins they're coming at the afc's what you think about that

i bet you drinking hunch punch

If you think, if you think, if you think they're beating Buffalo,

that's what I think about that.

I think you owe something.

Hey, your face, boy, that was funny.

That's what I think.

I think you owe something.

Hold on.

So you're not.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wait a minute.

I don't like the way you sound.

Whereas if you're trying to say the Dolphins don't have any chance in the AFC East.

Look, you play football.

Anything can happen.

You ain't going to put no money.

that the Dolphins gonna be the

AFC East representative, gonna win that division.

So, so you're telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already, and we don't know what's gonna happen, or are you just saying that because they have to be aware of the title?

Take the team with the best quarterback,

okay.

All right,

I like where you're going.

I'm taking team with the best quarterback, I like where you're going.

I'm taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division,

Tua.

Oh,

you're taking Josh Allen over Drake May,

Yeah.

You sure?

Yeah.

Okay.

I just want to see what you're going to say.

Okay.

Okay.

Sure am.

Okay.

So when Drake May and goddamn Stefan Diggs look like Mark

Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton, then what you gonna say?

They still got to do something with Josh Allen.

Okay.

B.

All right.

Tell somebody.

Josh Allen is him.

I wish I could tell you something different.

What you trying to?

Hold on.

Are you trying to say my quarterback is not him?

You trying to say two is not him?

Can't stay healthy.

Can't play in the cold.

I don't like your attitude.

I don't like your tone.

They got to do it, B.

I don't.

Get us a

better tell me.

The funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence in us.

I mean, that

y'all gonna play the game, but

I wouldn't put no money on y'all to win the division.

I would not.

Y'all probably got great odds, too.

You wouldn't put money on

the Dolphins, the Dolphins.

Nope.

We had, we had

what?

Okay.

All right.

The answer is no.

Listen,

I can't wait till football season.

Me either.

I can't wait the football season because we're going to have some nice little side bets.

I'm going to pay this time.

Just like you did last time.

I'm going to make him stall.

I'm going to make him fall.

Aston Genty had seven carries for 33 yards today, Ocho.

His 13-yard run was part of an eight-play, 41-yard scoring drive that ended with him piring his way into the end zone for a one-yard touchdown.

After the game, Genty said, I've arrived and it's time to keep going and make plays for this team.

I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say, I've arrived in the preseason, but I'm going to take his word for it.

He ran with authority today.

I like the run he had, punished the defender, lowered his shoulder.

I mean, he run with power.

I mean, he's not,

he's not an overly big guy.

I mean, what's he five, eight, five, nine?

But he's powerfully built.

You look at the way he's built from waist down,

you can tell he's a power, he's he, he's a power runner.

Listen, hey,

I saw one eclipse, but somebody, somebody caught him.

I saw the one where he ran dude over, but on the other side, somebody caught him good.

Did they?

Oh, yeah.

I don't know if that was a safety coming down.

I don't know who it was, but

well, you might want to get word to him.

You got to pick and choose your battles now.

Yeah.

Hey, he's not going to be able to do that.

You're not going to run through people like you did at Boise estate.

It's the preseason.

He doesn't understand yet

so you're gonna you're gonna learn real quick boy some grown men out there boy

yeah

so but i thought you know look

like geno gino had great has great command of the offense gino is very very familiar with uh pete carroll uh

that's a good thing got him

So it's going to be interesting to see how the Raiders do.

Look.

That division is good.

Yeah, very good.

Got Mahomes in that division.

They won the division probably like, what, the last eight years?

They probably won the division every year since what, 2016?

Is it 2018?

I thought it was.

Yeah, you got to realize because they had Alex Mill, they won the division.

Yeah.

They won the division every year.

Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback, and he started in 29, 2018.

He got drafted in 17.

The last time the Broncos

won the division, they won the

Super Bowl.

That was 2015.

Okay, that was the last.

So since then, since 2016, the Chiefs have been winning.

Yeah.

But you got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bonitz and Gino.

Look, that might be the second best division in football.

As far as quarterbacks,

I think the AFC North.

Whoa, whoa.

Hello, NFC East.

What are we talking about?

Yeah, let's see.

Hello.

Who's the NFC?

Yeah,

I I think for me, it's clear that

it's the AFC North with, you know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division.

Right, right.

Okay, Rodgers.

And then, yeah.

Even with Cleveland, we ain't giving Cleveland nothing with

those two top four guys and Rogers.

And then, you know, okay,

I can see that.

I can see that.

The NFC East with Russ, Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Dak.

But but Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nicks.

Yeah.

There ain't no slouch now.

I like both too, man.

I really, really like both.

I like both.

If somebody said, if some, if someone said I would take

the AFC

West quarterbacks, I wouldn't fight them.

Nah.

Because you got Mahomes.

Mahomes has been to five Super Bowls.

You got Justin Herbert.

You got a Bo Nicks who's up and and coming

now hurts is hurts is one of the super bowl he's been to russ has been the two one one um

but

dak where we where we where we putting dak you take dak or you take justin herbert

that's a good one yeah

that's a chat who y'all like you take dak or you take justin herbert

hey I mean, half the chat is going to say they're going to say Justin Hurt because they just don't like the damn cowboys.

No, I think

nothing that kid can't do.

That kid got an arm.

He is immensely arm-talented.

He's more athletic than you think.

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Oh, Joe, we got great news Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two Cam became the first SEC player to record a 2,000 yard passing season a 1,000 yard rushing season he had 2,854 yards 1,473 yards rushing he accounted for 51 touchdowns 30 passing 21 rushing one receiving while helping Auburn go 14 and 0 and winning the national championship against Oregon.

Cam swept the major college football awards.

2000 he won the maxwell water camp the manning the davio brine uh ap player of the year as well

as the heisman trophy oh joe i just got a simple question talk to me why won't carolina show that man the love that auburn is showing you

i'm not sure uh i'm not sure he said remember we did i think we did a topic was it last year that he took his son and there were no pictures of him on the wall at the facility oh that's right he did he did say that he did say that i i don't i don't know uh i don't don't know.

That's something we would have to probably ask him.

That internally, I'm not sure how things are.

No, we have to.

You can't ask Cam because Cam don't know why.

We need to ask the organization.

Tepper.

Yeah.

Ain't no telling.

I ain't no telling how things ended with Cam, even though he came back.

It's no telling.

You'll never know.

Especially for a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things that he did for the Carolina Panthers.

Yeah.

Took him to the Super Bowl.

One of the MVPs.

Rookie of the year.

Yeah.

Pro Bowler, all-pro.

But that's amazing.

Congratulations, Cam.

Very deserving.

I can make a case that's the greatest college season for a quarterback.

I know Joe had, I know Joe's numbers.

Right.

But Joe ain't throwing putting up those numbers with the receivers that Cam had.

He ain't doing that.

And I don't know.

I think he had one.

I don't think he had an offensive lineman.

I mean, did anybody play more than a year in the NFL on Cam's team?

On the offense?

Because I know he had a defensive lineman that went like, I think, top 10 to the Lions.

But if you look at his offensive weapons and what he was able to do.

Yeah.

Well, Cam was a real deal baker.

Man, Cam was crazy with it.

I mean, off the chain.

Yeah.

I don't know who we'll ever see.

Lamar had an unbelievable season.

I mean, the year he won the Heisman.

Well, actually, the year that he finished that he, the next year, he was even better than the year that he won the Heisman.

If you go back and look at it,

because he threw for like 3,500 yards and had 1,500 yards rushing.

That's crazy.

But congratulations, Cam.

University of Auburn, no one else will be able to wear the number two.

Oh, Joe, DraftKings been the NFL team of the best nicknames of all time.

Who should be added?

Okay, you got the Honey Badger, Tyron Matthew.

You got Ted Hendrix, who was the mad stork, Sean Merriman, lights out.

You got Hacksaw, Jack Reynolds.

You got the Tasmanian Devil.

You got the assassin, Jack Tatum.

You got Prime.

You got Ed...

You got the fridge,

William Perry.

You got the kitchen, Nate Newton.

You got the Minister of Defense, Reggie White, rest his soul.

Dick Knight, Terrain Lane, rest his soul.

And then you got Andre Bad Moon Rising.

You got Big Phil, Highway 63, Gene Upshaw.

Bag of Donuts, Pork Chop,

The Intellectual Assassin.

I don't know about him.

Megatron.

Megatron got a cool.

Legatron.

Beast Mode.

Broadway Joe.

The Face Cleaver.

And the Avatar.

I mean, somebody bitches played.

Is that Jimmy Graham?

Is that Jimmy Graham as the avatar?

Yes, yes.

I mean, listen, all of these NFL nicknames are good.

They're all good, but we all know who the best nickname is of all time.

They ain't got you up there, OJoe.

Oh, that's defense.

I guess we got to ask them.

No, they got offense.

They got offensive, yeah, Andre Risen.

Spanny Moon.

Yeah, they had nicknames, but I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name and reinventing myself in in the prime of my career.

That was from a branding, marketing aspect, which makes it obviously the greatest nickname of all time because I really bought in to the character in general.

And that character in general has carried me years beyond the game of football.

Hell, I ain't took a snap in goddamn 37 years.

But

these are all.

I like the intellectual assassin.

Who is that that played for the Chargers?

Is that Ron Mix?

The intellectual assassin.

That's a good one.

Hey, you know, they don't even have, they don't, I mean, they don't have Walter Payton.

They don't got sweetness on there.

The intellectual asset.

But hey, listen, Ocho Senko.

I mean, it speaks for itself.

The greatest nickname of all time.

Because I actually, I was 8-5 and when it changed the name, huh?

I saw a vision.

Like when I do spoken word, there's a vision.

There's a vision long term where

if you're not in deep thought with me, you're not going to understand it.

Who is the intellectual assassin?

I ain't never heard of it.

I mean, Bambi.

Who is Bambi?

Lance Allworth?

What is with?

The Chargers.

Okay, okay, okay.

Oh, he did.

He ran, he ran like he ran like a.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was.

Jack Caden was the assassin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, the intellectual assassin.

The Chargers.

He was the Chargers.

John,

Jack Tater, rest his soul.

He's out of Ohio State.

I thought it was Ron Mix.

I think he played, I think, OJO, I think he played like 12 years and had two holding penalties in 12 years.

That's it.

Yeah, thank you.

That's exactly what I said.

Jeddah, Justin Jefferson returns to practice.

It's first time in 25 days.

He continues to recover from a left hamstring strain.

He suffered last month.

He has a history of hamstring injuries.

He missed seven games in 2023 because of a hamstring strain to the other leg, prompted the Vikings to take a slow approach towards recovery.

Today, he participated in warm-ups, individual drills, but sat out 7-on-7 or 11-11.

Jefferson won't play in the Vikings' final preseason game, but do expect to start week one.

He got some imbalances or something.

He needs to get that looked at.

Yeah, yeah.

What do you think it is?

Especially when it comes to soft situation injuries like that,

where do you think that comes from?

Because I don't think he has an injury history.

Yeah, I don't think that's a good thing.

And he don't look like he quad dominant.

Sometimes if a muscle overpowers the other,

it will pull.

So if you know, you quad dominant sometimes or something so he might i mean he might need to get his hips he might be out of line or something yeah yeah

uh

if you're fatigued the muscle uh you know weak weak muscles pull right

but i i mean

you're dealing with elite athletes and so i know they have the best physio and the best everything around.

He might, you know, maybe his mechanics are off or something, but he might need to take a look at that.

Hey,

I'm not going to say nothing.

I'm not going to say nothing.

Obviously, you know my stance when it comes on to soft tissue injuries, you know, my stance on when it comes to getting hurt, but we know how valuable Justin Jefferson is to that team.

And I'm glad he took 25 days and they went slow with him.

I think he's a player that training camp would be beneficial.

but to get him back 100% healthy.

So

he's not one that needs training camp like that.

But I don't want him having to go from zero to 100 uh

without having the wear and tear that training camp ring because what's going to happen you get to you get to get him pulled and pushed that tug that's why i used to hey guys man don't tug me yeah hey if i beat you just let me go yeah you took i'm pulling on your and you tug me yeah

now i'm gonna turn around and swing on you um

that that's that's a that's a tough division because we saw the bears and you and i both think the bears are going to be better this year than they were last year.

Absolutely.

You believe you say, hey,

the Lions, I don't see them taking a step back.

No,

I don't.

Then the Packers.

You like the Packers.

Jordan loved that receiving court, Josh Jacobs.

So that is a very tough division.

You can ill afford.

Now, they're already going to be the first three games.

They're going to be without Jordan Addison because of some issues that he had off the field.

So they're going to be without him.

And the last thing that you need to happen: a guy coming back from a soft tissue injury and he retweaks it because now he's probably going to be down double the amount of times that he missed it again with exactly.

Yeah.

Um, I hope he gets healthy.

I hope he stays healthy because I want

to see him on the field.

Bless you.

Thank you.

That man don't cover it.

He covered his mouth after he done sneezed.

Oh, hey, shoot, excuse me.

Like, damn.

It creeped up on me.

I didn't know it was coming.

I didn't know it was coming.

You know what's coming, huh?

It made a little pure ale.

What's that?

Pure ail.

Why are you using that?

I'm all the way in Miami.

You can get me sick.

I may get you sick.

I'm all the way in Miami.

Hey.

Boy, that thing you got right there that day said, you might have Ebola.

I don't know.

I ain't lie, don't you?

That was what they said.

They said they died at Liberty City.

Say a monkey.

Say a monkey got escaped.

Yeah.

Say the monkey had Ebola.

Say one of them dudes from Liberty City bit the monkey.

The monkey bit him.

He had Ebola.

Right.

And the monkey died.

So the monkey got Ebola.

He beat the dude from Liberty City.

What he got?

Okay, you right.

You right.

You right.

Ain't no telling.

Ain't no telling.

Ain't no telling.

I'm just trying to figure out how you sneeze and then cover your mouth and say, excuse me.

It snuck up on me.

I didn't know it was coming.

Like, that's what happened when you really, when you're really sick, you don't, you know, it feels like I got a fever.

I thought you didn't get sick.

How you getting sick and you eat fast food?

You ain't supposed to get sick, remember?

I know.

It's probably, I'm probably only going to be like this under one day.

Matter of fact, you can hear my voice.

I sound like Barry White tonight.

You hear?

Most of the time when I talk, I got a high, a high-pitched, squeaky voice.

But tonight, I sound like really sexy, like for radio.

Nah.

I just try to figure out.

You told me,

chat, y'all done heard this man say eating a Big Max and eating all that fast food.

He don't get sick.

I just trying to figure out what's really going on.

That's it.

Well, technically,

I'm not sick.

I'm talking like

I'm still here.

This is a minor setback.

Are you sick?

Did you not say you were sick?

You just told us when you signed on that you were sick.

Yeah.

I'm good.

So, are you or are you not sick?

Yes or no?

Yes, at like halfway, because if I was sick, I wouldn't be on here.

So I'm able to do, I'm able to work.

So I'm not sick, sick.

So there's a difference.

So

if you work from home, if you work from home and sick and you can't work,

something really going on.

Yeah, yeah, I understand.

But some people, some people, when they get sick, sick, even if they are home, they can't do nothing.

They can't function.

See, I'm fighting through it.

I'm fighting through it.

My body, on the inside, you know, my immune system, they're in there like this.

Right.

And they in there going to work.

So on the outside, I'm cold.

But on the inside, I mean, on the inside, I'm cold.

But on the outside, I got the AC off and I'm sweating.

But on the the inside, I got chill.

I mean, it's weird.

So, this doesn't happen to me often

at all.

So, I'm gonna be all right, though.

I'm gonna be all right, though.

Man, and OJ, you know, I hate, I hate when guys, I'm a firm believer.

If you limp in the season, Ocho, you know how you're coming out of it.

Limping out of it, baby.

You're limping out of it.

I just hate, I hate that for gentlemen because, man, you're talking about off to a historic start.

Absolutely.

Oh my gosh.

I think it's going to continue, though.

I think it's going to be all right.

It's going to continue

i i don't i don't like i said that's that's an extremely tough division um

you could ill afford to have him and addison out plus you got j ma jj mccartney who's in his second year but this really is first year starting right you're asking an awful lot

you're asking an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out there and and and and to do what you need him to do

what i just wanted to say.

I just I just hope Ajeta can stay healthy for the entire season because they're gonna they're gonna need him, they got no chance, they got no chance.

Remember, KJ R uh KJ Osborne is in uh in Washington, in Washington now, yeah.

Addison's gonna miss the first three,

and then you know, um, he warmed up today, but like you said, he didn't do 707, he didn't do 11 on 11, and he's not gonna play in the final preseason game, which is Friday or Saturday, right?

So, boy,

and it's just a turn hey, and then in 10 days, just go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm hoping I'm hoping it.

I'm hoping he's going to be all right.

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