Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Not Buying it + E.D. SPILLING THE TEA on Shedeur

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Ocho, let's take a listen to what Shadur had to say.

Yeah.

Honestly, I don't even think about nothing.

I don't think about anything.

If it's not words or anything, you know, at this point, it can't do anything to me.

You know, I know, you know, the God put the ability and the power within me to not even think about nobody else's comments, not care.

It is what it is.

I spoke with him.

He said, nah, bro, that wasn't.

He said, that wasn't.

He told me on the plane.

He came up.

He was like, nah, bro, that wasn't that true.

I see how they trying to spin.

I'm like, oh, I'm not tripping.

Regardless of whatever it was, I don't.

Nobody's words or anything affects me, you know?

So, yeah.

So, did you believe him when he told you what wasn't on you?

Did I believe him?

I mean, I feel like you're trying to start stuff now.

I feel like you're trying to start stuff.

I mean, he's doing his job.

He's supposed to.

Do I feel like he did?

I don't know.

And that's not on me to sit here and be like, oh, he did.

He did it.

That's not going to change my life in any way.

Oh, Joe, when they ask you, did you believe it?

He could say, yeah, I believe it.

What do you say?

He said, ain't nothing for me to believe it.

He knows what it was.

You can't, hey,

you know what it was.

He don't care nothing about that.

He don't care.

Hey, you just want to play ball, baby.

That's it.

I want my opportunity.

i want my chance to shine all the outside noise all the distractions i ain't paying none of that no mind

he distracts you he started this

he started it dojo

look

shouldor at this point says look

what someone says is not going to impact

Doesn't make me better, doesn't make me worse, what somebody has to say.

I still have to go out there and do my job.

Yeah.

And when given the opportunity, that's exactly what I'll do.

He's been going through this for a minute, huh?

This ain't the first time somebody has something to say about him.

They've been digging at him for a long time.

He's been prepared for this.

He's been prepared.

Yeah, but normally the people that's taking shots at me ain't on my team.

That'd be like the team.

we we we we a family here now somebody else taking shots okay we deal with that we we hey we come together yeah oh you'll let that go but we can't be we can't be throwing rocks inside our own house and break out a window excuse me but it's the nfl

we ain't here to make friends i'm here i'm here i'm here to take your job i got i got kids i got mouths the baby need milk

child support dude yeah but it's mercedes benz i got to pay the bill i got a mortgage.

I ain't here to be your friend.

I'm not supported like you.

We here to compete.

What are we talking about?

Okay.

Team or not.

Shh, man, please.

I don't see you.

I got mouths to feed.

Child.

Interesting.

I wonder if that was the...

situation and they'd have asked you something about something like look hey i don't care if the guy came from the same team i came from hey we went to college together i don't care nothing about that i'm here to compete

they should have asked

i would have answered it the right way

i would have answered it the right way

i think i i think

Shadur has been coached very, very well, but he did a lot of laughing in that to keep from saying what he really felt and how he really felt.

You notice that Ocho?

He's laughing pretty much the whole interview.

He's savvy.

He's savvy in front of that camera.

He's been doing it for so long, huh?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

He's doing it for a minute.

It's just tough.

At the end of the day, look,

get my opportunities.

What he or somebody says about me doesn't change.

It doesn't make me play better.

It doesn't make me play worse.

That's his opinion.

He said what he said.

I just have to do what I have to do once I get up.

When I get my opportunity,

I go make plays.

That's it.

It's really that simple, Ocho.

I mean, there ain't really, there's not a whole lot of other ways around it.

There's no sense in me saying, oh, oh, this, that, whatever.

At the end of the day, this is what it's about.

And I'm going to go do my job.

And,

but it gets even more interesting.

According to Pro Football Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, the NFL told teams not to draft Shadur.

The NFL told teams, don't draft him.

We're going to make an example out of him.

Somebody called the Browns and said, don't do that.

Don't draft him.

Or it says, don't not draft him, right?

Because it said, don't draft him.

But the Browns end up taking him.

Or don't do him like that.

draft him.

Oh, but the Browns took him.

Okay.

Wow.

Somebody called the Browns and said, don't do that.

Don't draft him.

Now, we have a case study.

I mean, the judge once said that he believed that they were in collusion.

They're the text message chain, not email.

Jeff Pash and Roger Goodell, they've gotten better now.

Well, basically, it looks like they are said, hey, we got to keep these salaries down.

They're getting out of control.

So this is not out of the realm of possibility.

But I get that, Ocho, I get that.

We want to suppress the salaries for as long as we can to keep them from skyrocketing,

even though the value of teams are increasing exponentially.

The revenue is increasing exponentially.

But revenue is increasing, but we want to keep wages low.

It's kind of like what we see in the real world.

Minimum wage ain't moved in years yeah

what's what is it minimum wage 750 730 750 isn't that minimum wage i think 750 because it used to be 337 i remember when i was a kid it was 337 an hour now it's 750.

725 my bad i i i gave y'all a quarter more than you had oh joe so we see all these wages uh CEOs, CFOs, COOs, we see everybody,

but the worker,

his wage his or her wages are still 725 that's minimum so let me so in other words everything gets to increase the cost of living goes up

housing food cars wages stays the same i see my bosses i see everybody else is going here but the workers they stay here so as the players are seeing like these franchises going for 6 billion the valuation is 10 billion the evaluation is 12 billion we see tv revenue.

What ESPN, what

Amazon, Netflix,

NBC, CBS, we see what they're willing to pay.

So those are increasing.

They got to check every listen chat.

Every team got a check for $432 million.

That's before.

That's just from TV.

Now, I didn't mention anything about local television, local advertising, parking,

ticket sales, concession,

merchandise.

I didn't mention anything about that.

So while everything explodes,

let's suppress the players.

Am I missing something, Ocho?

No.

You're not.

But

that listen,

when we watched the draft, you wonder why Mel Kuiper was going off the way he was?

Man, Mel was losing his mind.

Losing his mind because he knows good and well

he was a top three pick in the first round.

He knew that.

We all knew that.

If you watch the game of football, if you look at the quarterbacks that went before Shador, I mean, hello.

The only one who's looked decent this offseason, this preseason, he plays in New York.

He plays in New York.

Outside of that, the Saints still don't have a quarterback.

No.

The Saints picked that nine, if I'm not mistaken, right?

I think there might have been nine.

The Steelers still don't have a 21.

Yeah.

I mean, come on, man.

Come on, man.

And then the people that are oblivious, that purposely turned a blind eye and act oblivious.

Oh, why would the owners collude?

Why would they care?

I'm like, you know, and it's like, it's almost like you can't be that.

You can't be naive.

Come on, man.

Y'all pick and choose

when to use logic, when to have common sense, when to see the bigger picture, when to understand why they would.

This specific individual.

Like, come on, man.

Ocho.

This is what Ed said.

This is his full quote.

I tell you this much.

What I heard from someone that's in the NFL, that the NFL told teams, don't draft him.

Do not draft him.

We're going to make an example out of him.

And this came from a very good source, a very good source.

But apparently, Shadur had fallen much further than anticipated.

And some league officials called the Browns and forced them to take him with the 144th overall pick.

He said that, I won't say who, somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that, draft him, because they weren't going to draft him either.

They were forced into drafting him because somebody made that call to them.

I heard a very similar situation with the Michael Sams situation.

So this is not the, now I'm not, listen, I'm not saying that this is true.

I'm not saying the Michael Sams situation is true, but I did hear that,

that there was a call, and it's funny that the Rams drafted the kid from Missouri

he wasn't that good huh

no he wasn't

no he wasn't

He wasn't.

I mean, some tried to make it about his orientation, but Ocho,

if he could have got 15 sacks,

hell, his boyfriend could have been a cheerleader.

They wouldn't have gave a damn.

Please.

Hey, you know the NFL is a business.

They buy, hey, can you do whatever your position is, can you do it?

if you're a quarterback can you throw if you're a receiver can you catch if you're a db can you if you're a db can you break up the ball knock the ball down if you're a d like a d lineman ojo can you be in the edge can you get to the quarterback i don't care all that other stuff

about that hey that was funny but that was funny i'm just being true

the thing here the chat though i'm telling the truth

if i don't care nothing about that oh man

they're in the business.

We're gonna try to find a guy that can that can get the job done, yeah.

No matter what you are, no matter what, you're right, you're right about that, whatever you believe in, whatever that ain't got nothing.

That's that's you doing that on your time.

I ain't policing, I ain't policing nobody, bedroom, their home, or nothing.

What you say if you get

if you get if you can get 15 sacks, his boyfriend could be a chill eater,

Yeah.

People get mad about that.

Man, they've been there, Male Chip, man.

Man, people just be finding stuff to get mad about, Ocho.

I mean, what is it?

Wait, we ain't watching the game for the Chiliators anyway.

I mean, what are the

people who care?

It don't matter.

I don't care.

No, I ain't never cared.

Oh, my goodness, boy, that was funny.

But I heard, I did.

I did hear that.

A very similar situation.

I didn't hear this about Shador.

I mean, I've gotten away from it.

I've kind of like, I haven't gotten away from the league, Ocho, but I don't call as many people as I once did.

Like, when I first got to Fox,

yeah, I'll call and try to, you know, make sure I know.

And

every once in a while, there are some things, but then they're like,

Shannon, you're too close to this.

Right.

Just step away.

But y'all know.

Y'all know.

Yeah.

But it'd be sad if this is true.

Oh, true.

If this is true,

this would be so sad.

Oh, man.

Helen Kelly could see what's going on, man.

Yeah.

We got on draft day.

Ray Charl could see what's going on.

Like, come on, man.

I said it.

I said that the same day.

when we came on the show during the draft.

Like, what are we doing?

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Urban Meyer compares Shadura Sanders' NFL spotlight to Tim Tebow coming out of Florida.

The issue that I remember Tim had, and Jim told me this, is that if you're a backup quarterback, they don't want all this media attention on that one player.

Coaches want team, team, no distraction.

How long can Shadur be a backup quarterback until the NFL decides that he's too much of a distraction?

We saw this with Cam.

He struggled with securing backup roles because he brought too much attention.

But here's the thing:

Cam was a

rookie of the year.

He was an MVP.

He was

a Pro Bowler many times.

Shadur has never started.

I can see,

I can see if he had Cam credentials and he says, okay,

but he ain't never played a game.

He ain't played a game.

How do you know if he can or can't be a backup?

i get what they said about cam because cam had already identified himself cam had already established himself yep so okay yeah it's tough it's tough when a guy

is to that degree right cam was a pro bowler

and wait a minute but cam cam was cam was gonna never have a career like a Josh McCown, like a Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Never gonna have that because

they weren't that to begin with.

So it's easy because see the thing is, even though Cam, as Cam got older and some of his skills diminished, even though as a backup, they still expected him to be Cam Newton because he what?

He still is Cam Newton.

Right.

I already know what I'm going to get from Flacco.

I already know I ain't nobody under the illusions that Joe Flacco is going to play like he did.

at any point in time like he did in the playoffs.

You're under no illusion that Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to ever be anything more than what Ryan Fitzpatrick or Josh McCown had ever been.

Right.

But if you get Cam,

even if you bring him in, you expect magic.

You expect him to turn back into Cam.

Superman.

You expect him to turn back into that.

Yeah, I don't even like, I mean,

the media is covering shadour

he's not asking for you guys to do that

he's not asking for that they're covered him for a reason

i mean listen i've never seen covers like this for a fifth round no

no ojo he's on he's on the front of any anything having to do with the browns it's his face it's his photo It's his picture on everything.

It's the same thing with Brandy James.

Hell, I couldn't tell you the first pick of the draft was.

Hell, I couldn't tell you the first five picks,

but you know who picked, you know, what Brynny James.

Everybody talk, they talk about Shadur.

That means they're covering Shadur like Shadur was the first overall pick, right?

They cover Bronny just like he was the number one overall pick.

Last name, I just

man.

All I can say is, Barbro, when you get your chance, just shine.

But up.

That's all you can do, Ocho.

Me, you, and I, and others being outraged that this could be a possibility.

Possibility.

Ocho, I'm tired of getting sued.

What?

Oh, no, I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good with them folks over there.

We good.

We good.

Bad, I was just like, uh,

this is sad.

Yeah.

Nobody saw this coming.

The only thing I did see coming, Ocho, we talked about this leading up to the draft.

New Orleans at nine.

Oh, yeah.

But if he gets past New Orleans at nine, there's really nobody that needs a quarterback from nine to 21.

Yeah, for a while.

And then if the Steelers don't take it.

Yeah.

But,

okay.

There's a scenario.

I can see him falling out of the first round, but I ain't see him falling to the fifth round.

No, absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

Colts announced Daniel Jones as quarterback one over Anthony Richardson.

Colts quarterback Cam

Colts quarterback coach Cam Turner was asked if the staff failed Richardson.

I feel like I've tried everything I can do, and I feel like he's given great effort in that aspect, too.

I don't think either way, one or the other.

Ocho.

That door doesn't close.

We talked about Ocho when the moment they signed him.

Ocho, I tried to, I said, Ocho,

it's just like, chat, y'all guys at y'all's job.

Let's just say, for the sake of argument, I'm going to be generous.

All of you at a job that make at least $100,000 a year.

Yeah.

They bring somebody in there and pay him $700,000 a year.

And y'all have the exact same job.

Now, which one do you guys think is leaving?

The right was on the you don't pay that man no four oh Joe, that's starting money

$14 million to be a backup.

That man wasn't never gonna be no backup.

Never,

never.

And if Andrew Richardson didn't play, bro, the worst thing could happen.

Oh, Joe, first play, first pass play.

Sack fumble.

Dislocate his pinky.

The line is sliding to the left.

He's hot out the right.

Guy hit him dead inside his head.

I can see Shane steiching.

Lord have mercy.

Jesus Christ.

I took my glass.

I'm saying that's what Shane, the head coach, that's what he said.

Yeah.

Look, this is a third-year player.

And that is an elementary blitz.

The line is going Liz.

You're hot.

Any one player come.

It's scat protection,

which means everybody is free to release.

Ocho, you got five line sliding.

They brought the guy to offensive tackle and say, I'm taking the most dangerous.

Step down.

Now, what he should have done is say, nah, let's rip it.

I'm going to slide the line to the right.

We protected now.

So I could drop back and throw it in peace.

Bro, if why?

Ocho, the thing is, what's confusing to me, it's a Liz call and you look at that side, you protected that side.

Where are you not protected?

To the right?

Yes.

And hell, the tight end turned around for the hot read right away.

And the back run the flat route.

Why the back?

Because that's not his job.

Yeah.

In scat protection,

no eligible receiver has a responsibility to block.

That's why they call it scat, which means five eligible guys are out on the route.

Scat protection.

You got five men.

Now, if you call something else, you know, you call a 50 protection, 70 protection, your tight end might stay in.

Or you can call a protection to keep the back in.

Right.

Or you can sit tail to back to chip his way out.

But that doesn't, that look like a scat protection, which means five eligible receivers, five offensive linemen and the quarterback makes 11.

The lineman obviously can't take their big ass out and run no route, so they block it.

Right.

Quarterback can't go out because he's throwing the ball.

So your five receivers, maybe it's

three receivers of tight end on the back,

free to go.

Yeah.

Hey, I also think they made the decision because

they're coaching for their jobs this year, too.

Yeah.

They're coaching for their jobs.

And if they were, if they were, if they had to go between the two quarterbacks, which one of these quarterbacks do I trust?

Get the job done for us and give us our best chance to win to save my ass, to save my job so I don't get fired.

Because I was part in the decision to make it.

They chose Daniel Jones.

I mean,

the lesser of the two, I mean, which way do you go?

You either run into you running into a lion's den or a tiger pen with pork chop draws.

But either way, the same thing they're gonna look okay there you go there it is

hey man i'm so you already know so you already know what's gonna happen hey so now now you know what this does tell me for one

i i would i would hope anthony richards had got his stuff together going into his third year Because after this season, they would have had to come see him.

Yes.

They would have had to come see him after this.

But this also lets me know: Daniel Jones is starting this year.

That means in the 26, 26, what, 2026 draft, they will be drafting a quarterback in the first round.

See, Daniel Jones done got paid once, he could.

They will be drafting a quarterback.

The Coast will be drafting the quarterback in this upcoming draft in April.

But the thing is, Ocho, is that look,

everybody knew that Anthony Richardson was a project.

Yeah.

Bring a veteran guy in.

Let him learn up under.

Yeah.

I don't even think, not even learning up under.

Someone like that with not as many reps in college and in high school.

Yes.

He has to play.

He has to learn through playing, going through the ups and the downs, huh?

He ain't seen enough to play.

He's not seen enough.

Well, you for him

doing it from the sideline ain't gonna work yes him it has to in the game

you see what happened put him in the game

his third year he got hit in his ear hole because he didn't know what to do so you think a guy that's coming out as a project and he needs to play immediately

the only way you're gonna get it right is by being out there Carson didn't play right away.

How did that Carson Palmer do?

Carson had John Kitten in front of him.

Carson Palmer is also.

Wait, didn't Carson win the

yes, he won the Heisman Trophy.

The first pick of the draft.

They compared him to now.

Come on, man.

I'm just Ocho.

Look at the quarterback.

Look at who he had coaching him.

Right.

He had Steve Sarkesian and Lane Kiffin.

There's a reason why Arch Man is again Texas.

Who's the head coach?

Sark.

Right.

He also had, He also had Matt Leinard.

Lefty.

Look at Lane Kiffen.

Look at the quarterbacks that he had in Alabama.

What are we doing here?

You bring a guy in

and you're like, okay, he's a project.

And you, oh, Joe, a project is something like, you know what?

It's like an old car.

It's a project.

I'm going to take my time.

But once I get it up and going, Ocho, that thing is a thing of beauty.

A building, it's a project.

But hey, turn into something beautiful.

You don't get a project, Ocho, and try to live in the damn thing.

Hey, I buy, oh, I'm moving in next week.

Hey, hold on.

A project?

You're not picking a project with the fourth pick in the draft.

That's what I said.

But I said, if you do,

I said if you do.

Okay, okay.

If you do.

You bring someone in

and you let him see how it's it's done.

But it's got to be someone that's confident.

Like,

look at what they did with Mahome Boy.

They traded all the way up.

Took it with number 10.

Parked it behind Alex Smith.

Boom.

Yeah,

yeah.

If Tom Brady can wait a damn year,

Anthony Richardson can wait a year.

If Mahomes can wait a year, if Carston Palmer can wait a year,

Ben Rothensberg,

Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning started on the bench.

The number one pick.

Yeah.

Anthony Richardson could have started on the bench.

He needed to learn, Ocho.

He hadn't played enough college football.

And like you said, he was a project.

Yeah.

Damn, man, that's messed up, man.

But you know I was surprised by that, Ocho.

When we saw this, I said, he's going to be starter.

Listen,

I wasn't surprised anyway, because I already knew it was going to happen regardless of the quarterback, quarterback competition that they continue to make, or they tried to make it out to me.

Once I saw Daniel Jones get that kind of money for one year, thank you.

The writing was on the wall.

I mean, who are they fooling?

That's the game.

That's the game that they play.

When you understand the game, you already know what's coming.

You already know what's coming.

That's unfortunate.

I hope all works out for him, though.

I like young Bull, man.

Hey, maybe he needs to go someplace else.

But he needs to get with somebody.

Like, I would have loved for him to go to

a Cliff Kingsbury, a Sean McVay, one of those minds.

Andy.

Well, he's not going to be able to go, but I'm just saying, you know what I'm saying, Ocho?

Right.

Guys that will let him develop.

You can't take a project and says, okay, we're going to get you to play.

it now because they got talent.

They got a nice offensive line.

They got an outstanding running back.

They got skill position players.

They're just devoid of quarterback.

They're good enough to win offensively, OJo.

You look at their skill position players, you look at that offensive line, they're good enough to win.

The quarterback players just been since Andrew Luck retired.

Look at all the quarterbacks they've had.

They've had Phillip Rivers, they've had Matt Ryan, they've had a host of quarterbacks.

Ken, to be exact.

Damn.

Coach Belichick appears to take a shot at Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

Belichick was asked: what's the biggest difference between coaching in the pros and college?

It's a lot of football, and there's not much in your way.

There's no owner, there's no owner's son.

Lord, have mercy.

Hey, hold on, I'm confused, but

Bill ran the show when he was there.

Thank you.

He ran the show.

No, he literally ran the show.

I know.

Okay, okay, okay.

Coach, I get it.

It always hurts, Ocho, when we get let go from a job.

It hurts.

It does.

No matter how long.

Ocho, you could be at a job 35 years.

Right.

You had 35 great years.

If they relieve you of your duty, you feel they've done you wrong.

Yeah, most definitely.

Especially when it's not on good terms.

The coach Belichick understands the pros not like college.

Mike Shysewski could have stayed at Duke as long as he wanted.

Coach Summit, rest her soul, she could have stayed at Tennessee as long as she wanted.

Coach Smith,

unless there's something egregious, unless there's a scandal, a lot of Bobby Knight and his credentials at Indiana, they're going to stay.

Pros don't work like that.

You don't get no lifetime contract in the pros.

No.

They wouldn't get rid of Coach Sabin at Alabama.

They wouldn't have got rid of Coach Paterno at Penn State.

Like I said, something egregious, a scandal,

all bets are off once that happens.

But Coach Belichick, you ran the show

every you got every they gave you everything you wanted mr craft didn't bother you was not in your way

damn you had 20 years six super bowls oh that's crazy six

You know what, Ocho?

Honestly, I just hope one day they can sit down and have a conversation.

They are.

it's gonna happen because because if you really look at it mr craft is so different than coach belichek i'm talking about

and you know what's funny is bill bill is cool as hell yes there's a whole there's a whole nother side of bill that no one no one has had the opportunity to experience he was at the pro bowl one year the coach yes you're absolutely right ocho because all all they see is you know bill in front of the camera

talking to reporters man there's a whole man listen i had to man me bill was on the show with us man for six months straight last season boy so funny um so funny and obviously yes

personality and all that stuff you know playing playing for the patriots but seeing him in that in that environment away from

oh

such a joy i was at the pro bowl with him um

And seeing him around the bar and interacting with the guys,

he's totally different.

Yeah.

He's totally different.

He's opening.

He's engaging.

He's funny.

Yeah.

But he got some.

I'm going to have to disagree.

I will have to disagree with you on this one, Coach Belichick.

I think you're phenomenal.

But

after they let you run the show for 20 years,

everything.

All the players that you released, all the players from the Ty Laws, the Willie McGinnises, and all those guys that the trading of the Richard Seymour, the trading of the Logan Mankins, all that, the cutting of Lawyer Malloy,

the trading of Drew Bledsoe.

We get that because Tom, we get all that.

You did all of that.

Mr.

Kraft just patiently just stood by.

He didn't talk.

The only time Mr.

Kraft really talked was

what, that Tuesday, that Monday,

Super Bowl week, Ocho, and of the game.

Do you think there's a lot of pressure on Coach Belichick to win at a high level of UNC?

Probably based on his resume, based on his accolades, based on what he's done in the past, you're expecting what he was able to accomplish with the Patriots to happen at UNC.

Obviously, if you understand the collegiate game, it doesn't happen that fast.

Obviously, I think there will be improvement based based on what they did last year going into this season.

Now that they have Belichick,

I think gradually they'll continue to get better,

but like instant success, like, oh, right, no, no, I

see improvements gradually.

I mean,

Clemson in that division.

I mean, in that conference, ACC.

Yeah.

How good is Florida State going to be?

I mean, listen,

I'll tell you one thing: the best football school in Tallahassee right now is Florida.

It's Famute.

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I told the guys prayers don't get answered.

I was praying.

Oh, prayers do get answered.

I was praying.

Oh, Joe,

we're hearing a lot of franchise quarterbacks getting hit in practice lately.

He got stepped on, right?

So, so, so, what it was doing doing a fight or during you got pulled out from under the center?

He just got stepped on.

Nothing too crazy.

He good, though.

He good.

Listen, Lamar ain't made a glass.

He ain't made a glass.

He's going to be all right.

I saw a little post by Adam Schefter, and Schefter

made it a little bit more,

made it seem a little bit more

serious

than it was.

And Lamar is under the post laughing.

yeah.

And you know, and when it comes to injuries, the Ravens are one of those teams that don't leak anything, the players don't say nothing, and the team don't say nothing.

So, Adam Schefter had to go out on a limb based on what he may think it is, and how serious he may think it is.

And Lamar just went under the uh Instagram post and just laughed it off, which lets you know

I'm good, man.

But again, it is not good, I'll be good good in, what,

10 days, 14, when they play.

So I'll be good in 10, 14.

So in two weeks, I'll be good.

I don't got to be good right now.

I'll be good in two weeks.

But just the fact that football season is here, man.

God,

I can't wait.

Yeah.

Oh, Joe, yesterday was a busy day for trades on our off day.

Chiefs traded wide receiver Sky Moore and a seventh round trick, a

pick

to the 49ers for a sixth round pick.

Broncos traded Devon Vale to the Saints for a fourth and a seventh.

The Vikings traded Harrison Phillips and a seventh to the Jets for two sixth rounders.

The Browns traded D.T.

Jawan Briggs and a seventh to the Jets for a sixth.

Ocho, which trade will have the most immediate impact?

Oh, immediate.

I'm not even sure, Uncle.

I'm not sure if any of these players are going to actually be an immediate impact.

If anything, Skye Moore has had opportunities with the Chiefs to make an impact and make a change there.

Maybe if he can get his confidence back and get himself back into rhythm and being able to see and catch the ball, he can be an impact, you know, where he is in some way, shape, form, or fashion.

I would love for him to get back into

a groove.

It seems that he's lost his confidence a little bit.

It happens sometimes, young player.

Yeah.

You have success.

You catch, you know,

big touchdown in the Super Bowl.

Team win.

Comeback struggle a little bit.

You get injured.

It's tough.

Yeah.

Tough.

Is it Veely?

Devon Veely?

The Broncos traded him.

I liked him.

I I thought he was really good.

It just goes to show you, I guess the Saints really needed it because they gave him a fourth.

That tells you, hey, he got some value, Ocho.

They gave him a fourth

and a seventh.

Yeah.

I mean, everybody else

going for sixth and seventh round picks, and they got a fourth and a seventh.

Damn.

49ers need this.

Demarcus Robinson is going to miss the first three games.

Had a situation in the Rose last offseason.

NFL stepped in.

It's like, okay, you're going to miss the first three games.

They need, because what is IU?

Juwan Jennings, Pierce.

Pearce all.

Ricky.

Pearsall.

Oh, we

understand.

The Saints,

Olave,

Shaheed.

Hi, Shaheed.

Huh?

Shaheed.

Is he okay?

Yeah, he's good.

My boy, fast as hell, boy.

He is that.

I can't wait.

Ocho, a woman loses 1.3 million lottery winnings after hiding it from her ex-husband.

11 days after winning, she reportedly filed for divorce without ever mentioning her son fortune.

For two years, she believed she had pulled off until her husband found out her ex found out.

When he allegedly took her to court, The judge didn't split the winnings, he cited a family code statute that punishes spouses who conceal property during a divorce.

The verdict: she had to hand over 100%

of the lottery winnings to her ex-husband.

That could have been life-changing wealth that turned into a cautionary tale: deception in marriage and the law.

Wait,

she had to pay him the whole thing, the whole thing.

hey you see how you see what money do to people on

literally how

yeah

you see what money see what money do to people

i i think look this up there's a guy in wisconsin he won the lottery i think he won like 200 and something million he split it with his wife and said i'm up out of here

he split it and left i think he did i think it was in wisconsin

guy gets divorced after winning

Hey, boy, that's man.

Listen, man.

Money's a powerful thing, huh?

Yeah.

Money, listen,

bro.

Why would you, oh, Joe, you know, boy, they punish you.

They will punish you married and you hide.

Right.

Marital possessions?

Yeah.

They'll make you give the whole thing up.

Hey, man.

One thing about it, boy.

Everybody can go on that trip with you.

But they're not going to make it to the destination.

Nah.

She had to get it off.

Boy, you know, she was sick, OJo.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

But, you know, when it, what, listen,

when it comes to money, women,

you know what women will do, man.

You find it?

Come on, now.

Greedy.

Greedy.

but money, money making do some crazy things, man.

Lose friendship, lose family members,

the right amount,

a nice chunk.

One guy won the lottery after he got divorced.

He won 273 million, Ocho.

What he got divorced and won 240, 273 million.

I'm going to play, shoot, I just got married.

I'm going to play the lotto then.

I'm going to play the lotto and see what happens.

See if I get lucky.

See if me and my baby get lucky.

Yeah.

So that that's a that's what I'm gonna do.

I'm gonna go play the lotto.

I'm gonna hit for about 500 million.

And then boom, this is what I'm gonna do.

I'm i'm gonna hit 500 million then i'm gonna shoot you a hundred million

on the you know the bro first of all ocho you do realize you win 500 million you take it a lump sum yeah i'm gonna take a lump sum and i'm gonna give you probably get like you probably like if you win 500 million you probably get like 180 million no i ain't no i ain't no i ain't out of five no i get about i get i get no ocho you know ocho you get that if you take it over over the no if you take it over 25 years

if you take a lump sum i'm taking a lump sum you're not going to get that much, Ocho.

Yes, it is, Unk.

500 million.

You get about 180-some million.

Unknown, you are completely wrong.

It's not that much.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm winning by 500, so I'm going to get two.

I'm going to shoot you 100%.

Huh?

Ocho.

Yeah.

I ain't going to lie to to you, Ocho.

I win a lottery.

It's gonna be Ocho and somebody.

Ocho and somebody nightcap.

I'm just telling you, Ocho.

I'm just saying.

How you gonna leave?

How you gonna leave me?

Ocho, you told me I need to live my life.

You say, uh, you won't go nowhere, you'll do nothing.

Oh, so you're gonna wait till you win the lottery, then you're gonna leave me by myself?

He would get he would get 163.

Ocho, in the state of Florida, if you won the lottery, 500 million, you take a lump sum, you get 260.

I told you.

No state taxes.

Well, listen.

Yeah.

I'm going to shoot you 100 million.

Now, don't shoot me that.

You shoot me, shoot me a cool, shoot me a cool

10 will do me.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

You ain't nothing.

You ain't gonna do nothing with that.

Boom.

Oh, y'all be gonna tell you what I'm gonna do now, Ocho.

What you gonna do?

Nightcap featuring Ocho and whoever else you want.

As a matter of fact, hey,

you the new host of Club Shay Shay.

Unc out of here.

Ungo.

Ungo.

Hey, you know why you won't leave because you like what you do?

I do, Ocho.

You do too much.

But, Ocho, with that kind of money?

Yeah, but

you're not, you're not, you, you, you don't do this for the money.

You do this because you love it.

You love it.

I do.

I'll tell you what, I work football season, but the minute the Super Bowl over, you gone.

I see y'all next football season.

No, no, no, no, no.

Because listen, when football season is over, that's when we get to do our other half of our show.

Oh, no.

Ain't no other half of no show for shit.

No, that bitch is an uncanocho.

Yeah, ocho.

Jet skiing,

water, water skiing.

I'm a seasonal worker, and the season will be over for Unk.

Nah, man, we gotta keep the money train going.

This is how we get to that.

God damn, Ocho, let me live.

Be billionaires.

I'm telling you.

Huh?

You could be billionaires.

Man.

That's how it starts.

Oh, that's how it starts?

Yeah.

It got to start somewhere.

Okay.

All right.

It's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q and A.

Yeah.

With my baby, baby, I know you're watching.

Yeah, they got the lotto out there.

You're going to play the lotto.

Hey, chat.

I'm going to win the lotto, man.

I'm going to win the lotto.

All of us, all of us, everybody in the chat, we're going to be debt-free.

We're going to fix this.

I need to run for presidency.

Because I get

together.

You come over there.

I am Flash23.

Say Club Ocho live from Tutsis.

Yeah.

I like that.

Kevin Norwood Jr.

said, Ocho, are you locked in on Abdul Carter winning defensive rookie of the year?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Listen, there's some other

good players.

Obviously, we know what Travis Hunter is going to do.

We don't know how much he's going to be on the defensive side of the ball or offense, but Abdul Carter

and the impact he's going to have as a rookie based on what we've seen so far,

he's definitely going to win it.

He's definitely going to win it.

Unless someone that we just have no clue or think is in the running to win it just comes out of nowhere.

But I think Abdul Carter, obviously, Penn State, you know how those boys get down.

So I'm assuming he probably will win it.

jason zills zellsdorf dart is a bad man dart is way better than sanders

he had a better preseason he got an opportunity to play more um he got more reps um

if you're just looking at college numbers when they got the same number of reps it's hard to say that dart was better but in the pros He's gotten more reps with the ones.

He's gotten more time.

He's got an opportunity to play more.

We'll see how it plays out.

But, Jason, Dart does look good.

OG underscore Thanos.

What's up, Uncle Ocho?

How soon will we see Jackson Dart starting, considering how good he's looking the preseason?

Over under eight weeks, Ocho.

Over under eight weeks?

Ooh, that's a good one.

I think if things.

Actually,

let's go nine weeks because it's 18 weeks in the season.

So we go right down the middle.

Over under

hey, I really honestly, I honestly, I don't think it's going to happen.

I honestly don't think it's, I think Russell Wilson is going to go on a run.

He's going to go on a run of consistency, not turning the ball over,

taking what the defense gives him,

and running

a safe offense.

And a few.

So you're going, you're taking the over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Y'all, y'all,

y'all counting the preacher boy out, man.

I'll go under.

I'll say under.

Man, listen.

God is on Russell Wilson's side.

Jackson Darty.

Paul the Truth Believer said, oh, OJo, Shadura said, child, please, they can kiss the bait with all that crazy talk.

One Diehard Eagle fan, shout out to the Nightcap.

Thank you, One Die Heart Eagle fan.

Appreciate the support.

Dr.

Frankie L.

Bellamy, hey, fam, I'm 35,000 feet narrow on my way to London and still watching Nightcap.

If that ain't dedication, I don't know what is.

Love y'all.

Doc, we appreciate that.

Doc was here from, I think Doc might have been like the first two or three in the chat where we started way back, way back, Ocho, because I think we had like 300 people the first night.

Matter of fact, wherever Doc is going, do me a favor.

I don't know if you've ever been to a soccer game.

Please go to a soccer game while you're in London and tell Unk what the experience is like.

Please, because hearing it from me, maybe hearing it from you, you know, will do a little bit more justice.

But you got the experience one while you're out there in London.

Please.

What's today?

Today's what?

Thursday.

Thursday?

Yeah.

Games are Saturday and Sunday.

Saturday and Sunday.

Wherever you at in London, please catch a game.

Oh, man.

I got to get my Buvuzela.

What you know about that?

They banned those.

Did they?

Yeah, remember at the World Cup?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got one.

We went to Australia.

for a preseason game and I got a Buvuzela.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I got a didgeridoo.

For real?

One of those Australia, those things that

yeah.

And I and

yep,

G.

Smith Leslie, bless y'all.

Much love, peace, and respect.

For it.

Anime Slayer.

Hey, Shannon, have you ever watched the anime Neon Genesis Evangeline?

Stay golden, Shay Shay.

No, I don't.

What's anime?

What they do?

I say the good Japanese person.

Oh.

I hear people talking about it, but I don't know anything about it.

Have I ever seen it?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I tried.

I would look at guys.

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Get some rest, young man.

Get some rest.

Stay healthy and all the best.

The Giants beat the Patriots and the Steelers beat the Panthers.

Preseason is coming to an end.

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