Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Kenny Pickett TRADE to the Raiders + to Terry McLaurin’s $96M DEAL

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The Cleveland Browns, OJo, are trading Kenny Pickett to the Raiders in exchange for a 2026 fifth round pick.

Taken 20th overall by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2022 draft, Pickett has now been traded three times in his career.

That leaves the Browns with two rookies, Dylan Gabriel and Shadur Sanders, behind starter Joe Flacco.

Stefansky

has not named Flacco's backup.

The Raiders needed the backup to Geno Smith after Aiden O'Connell.

He broke his wrist and he's going to be out six to eight weeks.

So they needed the backup.

The Browns like, you know what?

We got

what y'all try to do.

What y'all try to do something?

Y'all try to do something for two something?

Because right now it's one o'clock.

And Easter time, four o'clock.

Everything needs to be taken care of.

So they got this done.

I like this move.

Oh, Joe, I told you.

I didn't see a scenario where Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett was on this, on this roster.

Two veteran quarterbacks.

I didn't see that.

I didn't.

So tell me, what you think about the move?

Surprise?

No, I'm not surprised at all.

Obviously, Kenny Pickett is a very, very serviceable quarterback.

He showed glimpses of being able to lead a team.

Maybe not quarterback number one, but we saw him in Pittsburgh.

We saw him in Philly when he got his opportunity to play there.

And obviously, due to injuries and circumstance, we weren't able to see much of him in Cleveland, but obviously we've seen what he could do in two other spots

outside of Las Vegas, where he's going to be now.

And obviously, learning and sitting behind Geno Smith is a great, great, great quarterback, quarterback number one to sit behind and learn that offense from.

And if anything goes wrong where Geno Smith goes down, Kenny Pickett is a grace, serviceable quarterback that can go in and lead a team to a couple of wins.

Obviously, they have Amari Cooper.

Jacoby Myers is upset right now, obviously, wanting an extension.

And I think because of Jacoby requesting a trade, they obviously reached out to Amari Cooper.

And Amari Cooper has some other choices of teams he could have went to, but he chose to go back to the Raiders for obvious reasons.

He's going to get that ball.

He's going to get that ball.

And,

I mean, that's what it is.

I think it's a good thing, good pickup for Pete Carroll.

And he's going to be all right.

He's going to be all right over there in los vegas

yeah i like the move for both sides the reports are out ocho that kenny pickett they really the browns really like kenny pickett and they were hoping he would be their starter but i didn't see a scenario where you if you keeping four quarterbacks you're not keeping two veterans and two rookies it just it didn't make a whole lot of sense to me

not at all

Because the backup, he's not going to be your future.

He's not your future.

Your future are the rookies.

So

if he's your backup, now

you're taking rep from them.

Hey, and I hate when they say stuff like that, too.

The way you just started that, that, that, that sentence, what they wanted Kenny Pickett to be the starter.

Obviously, if Kenny Pickett was the type of quarterback that was to be a starter and the future for the Cleveland Browns, he would have been that.

He's still been pissed on him.

Yeah, I mean, no, no, no, no, no disrespect to him.

No disrespect to him.

He would have been that there.

Obviously, when you think about the makeup and the DNA of the Cleveland Browns, they are not heavily offensive skilled in a sense where you can have a quarterback that needs more talent around him to succeed like Kenny Pickett would.

You know, I think Joe Flacco is suited.

Okay, I don't have that much talent around me offensively because the identity for the Cleveland Browns is their defense.

No matter what they're in the chat trying to hate, the Cleveland Brown defense, it's very good, no matter what you say.

You can say what you want to say.

So

they went with the right choice in Joe Flacco.

They got Jerry Judy and Joku

and they're going to have to eat.

Cedric Tillman, they're going to have to eat.

they're gonna have to eat yeah they're gonna have to they're gonna have to carry a lot of uh do a lot of the heavy lifting on Joe um

and the thing is is that like Joe Flacco at 40 years of age in year 18 what are your expectations

what are your expectations

I mean if you really go back and look at it Joe Flacco really has hasn't ever really been good in the regular season he's made a name for himself in the postseason yes beating of Andrew Luck beating a Tom Brady beating a Peyton Manning.

That's where he beat.

He beat Tom Brady twice.

In the postseason.

Can I say something to you, Uncle, please?

Go ahead.

Real quick.

He beat Andrew Luck.

He beat Tom Brady.

Please let the chat know and understand the teams and the talent that was surrounding him.

He did this.

Let's remember.

Let's remember what that defense looked like.

Let's remember what the weapons he had on offense looked like.

Now, it wasn't, it wasn't, obviously, it's a team game, but we can't just put this all on flack on now.

But But he was, I mean,

he was, I mean, he would look like Joe Montana come playoff time.

Because he never, he never showed what he's shown in the playoffs, he's never shown that in the regular season for any length of time.

Yes, he's had good games.

He's a quarterback.

I mean, you don't be a quarterback for a decade, a starting quarterback for a decade plus, Ojo, and not put up good numbers.

So he's put up good numbers, but nothing.

that would say, oh, my God, there's a reason why Ozzie traded back into the first round.

It's like, select Lamar Jackson.

So with that being said, he beat Andrew Look.

He went to Denver, beat Pape Manning.

He went to New England and beat Tom Brady.

He did that.

And then he went on the road and beat a San Francisco team when Carla Nick was at his apex without outstanding defense, when they had Navarro Bowman, when they had Patrick Willis, when they had Smith, when they had those great, that great team.

Frank Gore running the ball a mammoth offensive line.

He did that.

I'll give him credit for that.

But like I said, it's in the postseason that he's made a name really cut his teeth and made a name for himself because there's really been no consistency in the regular season he showed you flash you're like damn why can't we get this more more more more this joe flacco than the other joe flacco what he gonna get at browns he gonna give you a five six game run of wins you're gonna be like holy

Man, he did it.

He did it two years ago.

Deshaun went down.

Boy, they went on a hell of a run with Flacco, boy.

Jerry Judy, wait, no, no, was that Judy?

Judy wasn't there.

I feel it was somebody, somebody at receiver was going crazy, man.

It might have been Coop.

It was Coop.

It was Coop going crazy, man.

Yeah, it was.

The damn show was Coop.

And see, and that's the thing.

You see what happened?

He came in.

There was no expectation.

They won some games, and then we started having expectations for him.

And then what happened?

The bottom fell out.

Interceptions, turnover.

Yes, yes, yes.

So this, I like this move for the Browns.

Now this gives Dylan Gabriel.

Look, they talk about where they have a name to back up.

We know who the backup's going to be.

I won't need a name.

We already know who the backup is going to be.

And Dylan Gabriel is going to be the backup.

It's your door when you get your reps.

And because you're going to probably be, well, Dylan will be running some of the practice, some of the

opposing teams quarterback also.

But,

excuse me, the scout team offense.

that's when your opportunity, that's when you show what you can do.

That's the way you don't go through the motions, you take it serious.

Hey, they tell you where to go with the ball.

You go through your, you go through your progressions, hey, and get the ball where it needs to go.

But in the meantime, hey, you get enough that playbook.

And when your opportunity presents itself, you take full advantage.

And the good thing.

And the funny thing, the good thing for Stewart, as well as Dylan Gabriel as well, is when you take the scout team reps, hey, you're going against the number one defense.

Going against the number one defense.

So, obviously,

it's mental reps plus physical reps, but it's against the best players, similar to what you see on a Sunday.

So, it's just not no, uh, ain't gonna be no walk in the park, man.

Ain't gonna be no walk in the park.

And I, Elcho, boy, I relished that day.

I remember, I met, I remember that thing.

That was 35 years.

I was a rookie back in 1990.

So, that's 35, 36 years ago.

I remember it.

I was lighting them up on you.

Oh, yeah, this is my, hey, this might get my Sunday.

Right, right, right.

wednesday thursday friday that is my sunday i'm not going to get a whole lot of reps on offense i'm going to be on special teams this is my this is my sunday wednesday thursday friday i'm cooking

and take it hey take it easy my ass

well i'll try to keep it your hey after the coach done told me that hey we still cut around here now i just want y'all to know that

i think i'd have made the squad coach i'm not cut oh no oh no i can't now how that's gonna look oh I done made the team, I done called home Libby.

I made it, Spank, I made it.

Uh, mama, I made it, call him homeboy, I made it, and then all of a sudden, I get cut.

Oh, nah, nah, hell, nah, man.

I cooked it.

I was cooking.

Uh, who we're trying to think who we played.

We played the Raiders over the week, my rookie year.

Man, I cooked the dude so bad Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday after practice.

They cut it for real,

cut it, cooked it,

cooked.

I was cooked.

Oh, Joe, I was cooked.

Hey, hey, it's so funny.

I didn't know.

I didn't know the correct way to practice.

I knew one thing.

Do everything.

Special teams, I'm out there playing around just to keep my body warm and moving.

I'm at the corner.

I'm running down on special teams.

Scout team came.

I wasn't going.

Listen,

I'm in year 10.

To is, you know, T.O.

is obviously on the Bengals with me.

So I'm peeping.

I'm watching T.O.K.

Okay, this is how he do it.

Okay, that's how he do it.

Scout team come up.

I'm taking all the reps on Scout team to give my number ones a look.

And T.O.

pulled me to the side, like,

what is how you practice?

You're not supposed to, you got to give your body time to rep.

Yeah, you got to save the legs, man.

Boy, I take all the reps.

This is all I know.

This is how I know.

I say, yo, boy, he's like, oh, your boy, you tripping, boy.

You got to save your legs for Sunday.

I say, T, I'm going to be all right.

But

this is how I've always done it.

I always take the scout team, so I give the number one corners the best look, depending on who they're seeing.

It's like, boy, you better than me.

Because I couldn't do that.

Yeah.

Early, early, you know, I would take a couple, you know, there's like want to get some work or something.

But as I got older, I started getting year five, year six.

Nah, I ain't got nothing for you.

I didn't know.

My first time thinking there was something wrong with it, once T.O.

got there to Cincinnati and was telling me, listen, you need to scale back a little.

You need to tone it back.

Do what what you do with the ones when we're up offensively and you go you go right give me give it everything but i'm getting seven hard routes but but plus ocho you taking seven you taking one-on-ones too see i was the only tight end that took one-on-ones i never ran routes against uh uh linebackers or anything like that i ran uh routes against the white team

so i'm i'm getting i'm getting that and i'm getting my reps so i once we got through i do like five six plays a nine-on-seven might say 84 go down and get some work on one-on-one okay because you know during the course some games i split out wide i'll be in the flex position

but

this is your opportunity if i could tell any rookie anything give them any advice when you're running scout team that is your sunday that is your game wednesday thursday friday is your sunday you approach it like that

You like the a man take it easy.

No, I ain't take it easy on nothing.

When they cut that film on, they're gonna see number 81 busting his ass.

Cause I ain't going home.

Because I think you take it easy.

You want to laugh.

Okay, hey, bro, I understand that you a vet and you know, you in your 10 or whatever the case may be, but I'm going 1,000 miles an hour as hard as God will let me.

And the ball is going to be coming to me, too?

Oh, yeah.

And they're like, hey, son,

he's a rookie.

So

what you think they got to do?

More than that.

so you

that's for sure.

I don't even know what I'm doing.

I'm just following the hey, I just see the circle.

Hey, that's where the ball is going.

Hey, let me get that right there.

Every time, before they got before they got hilt to it, oh sure, they started running, they ain't realized that where the circle was, that's where the ball was supposed to go.

They're like, All right, go ahead, man.

They running dummy routes.

I'm catching them, yaga, yaga.

I'm just getting the ball.

Dylan Gabriel was seven years old when Flacco made his NFL debut.

Shadur was six.

That's crazy.

18 years in the league?

18.

Crazy.

Dylan Gabriel 25?

God

damn it.

Good or bad.

Bro, you go to college at 17, 18.

If you play four years, you're 21, 22.

You play five years, you're 22, 23.

He's 25.

What you mean exactly?

Hold on.

How old is Bo nicks didn't bow nicks stay stay

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i think it's it's good it's good staying back

because covet sent everybody back though

coach covet remember you got that every year for covet

huh yeah hey

well I don't know if they do it, but they didn't, they didn't wasn't no red shirt going on in black college when I was in school.

So I don't know if they might redshir now because we ain't had no money.

Bill said, hell no, home, ain't no red shirt.

We could barely pay for you now.

We damn sure can't pay an extra year, huh?

Okay, he'll be 25.

Okay, so now that makes sense because unless your birthday is like normally, if your birthday is after September 1st, you have to start the next okay.

So

Shador's 23?

He'll be 24 when?

February.

February.

Okay, that's about right.

That's about right.

Because how old were you when you got drafted, O Child?

Shoot, I was.

22?

Nah,

I was 19.

Because

I got drafted before my 22nd birthday.

So I was 21 in April.

I turned 22 in June, but I didn't red shirt.

Now, if you red shirt, you already know you're going to be 22, 23 coming out.

And then if you come out early, you're going to be 20, 21.

I don't even know how old I was.

I'm talking about 19.

I wonder how old I was.

Well, how old were you when you graduated?

I don't know.

I don't remember.

I graduated late.

I graduated.

They might have given you a certificate.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

For attendance.

Not that late.

I'm just saying I graduated.

Hey, I was bad.

Do you have to go to summer school to graduate?

That was bad, uncle.

I was bad.

Oh, Lord.

Yeah, I was bad.

I was bad.

I'm just being honest.

Nigga, my focus was.

They might have gave you a certificate for attendance.

They ain't say nothing about requirements for you.

Oh, I was 22.

Okay.

Not ain't bad.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, absolutely.

So when your birthday, so you was going to turn 23.

So when your birthday?

January 9th, 1968.

Oh, so you turned, so you turned 20.

So you turned 22.

You had already turned 22.

Okay.

Yeah.

Oh, one was your first year, huh?

Oh, one was my first year.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's so funny.

You were 23.

I was?

Yeah, you were born in 78.

I was born in 68.

The man was...

Hey, look it up.

I think this man was 23.

78 to 2001 is 23.

Because I'm almost certain.

I think you were there.

Yeah,

you was there my last year in Baltimore.

Yeah, I was there the year before that, too.

You weren't there on that team.

You didn't want to be a part of that, OJ.

They were bad.

I would have saw y'all up, boy.

Boy, please.

I would have saw that.

That was the 2000 Ravens defense.

Oh, man.

I don't see that.

I ain't.

Listen, I didn't see them.

I wouldn't have seen that defense either.

They would have got it.

First of all, how you gonna get the ball?

Who was the quarterback?

Kittner, right?

Kittner, right?

Or

Akeele.

Oh, Akee was there.

Akeely, yeah.

He can't throw the ball on his back.

Hey,

he was 23 years and seven months, week one.

So you was almost 24.

Damn, you almost tried to pull a Dylan Gabriel.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

I went when I went.

Well, you went, no, you said, but see, the thing is, you went to Juco.

So you went to Juco, you know, where you missed that year.

Well, you got kicked

Langston?

Yep.

Yeah, I got thrown out of Langston University.

See, that sent you back a year.

Now you got to go to Samoa.

It took me three years to get out of there.

And you only stayed one year year at ore that's all the eligibility i had left i was a one for one god hey oh i was one for one but my back was against the wall at oregon state

i ain't had no choice that was either i get it either i get it done now or it ain't happening

hey

that sometimes when you're forced that when that's all when that's your only option

Hey,

you want to see, you want to know how bad an animal will fight?

Back it in the corner.

Well, who you telling?

Because I was backed in the corner now.

Put his back against the wall.

I don't care what you might think it is: be a chicken, be a dog, be a cat, obviously, a lion, an elephant.

If you want to know how bad something will fight you, put him against the wall

and you'll find out.

So, your back was against the wall.

You didn't want to go back home to Liberty City, and everybody say, I thought, man, I told y'all, man, Chad wasn't gonna do nothing, he's gonna be right back with us.

Man,

you ain't want to hear that, boy.

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Exactly.

Ocho, the commanders, signed Terry McLaurin to a three-year deal worth up to $96 million.

He received a $30 million bonus in the new deal.

With Terry back, the commanders are true Super Bowl contenders.

We got the list up there.

You can see right there, an average salary that guys are based at.

He was right.

Ocho, I said his.

I said 32.

I say somewhere between 28 and 32.

You was at 32.

I said, I don't see him going north of of DK, but hey, plus he's a little older, Ocho.

And

you don't want to be the team to set that precedent because I was reading today of the 24 guys that's got these new deals, only one is 30 years of old, age of older when signing them.

And that's Tyreek.

Tyreek is unique because Tyreek

might be the oldest, but he outrun everybody this year.

Every last one.

So with that being said, congratulations, Terry.

Well-deserved.

Five consecutive thousand-yard season.

He was second in the NFL in touchdown catches last year behind Chase, who won the triple crown.

Very, very well-deserved.

I was glad the commanders came through.

Reward your players.

That's exemplary, not only on the field, but off the field as well.

I always like to see teams reward their players.

They drafted, they're homegrown.

You know that player.

Reward it.

I have a question.

Can you please explain to me why management, why the powers that be always know.

It doesn't take that long to do the numbers.

I don't know who does the books with the commanders.

It doesn't take that long.

Why do we wait until the end of training camp, preseason passes by, and then all of a sudden you decide to pay your player

two weeks before the season starts?

I don't understand.

Without being privy to both sides, maybe he offered concessions.

Maybe they came up a little.

Remember, it was being reported he wanted north of what DK got.

DK was at 33.

So maybe he dropped down.

Maybe, hey, he lowered his ceiling.

Maybe they lifted the floor.

We don't know without being privy to both sides of the information.

But at the end of the day, Ocho, yeah,

you would like for it to be a little smoother transition or like for things to go a lot smoother.

But at the end of the day, isn't the job is to get the job done?

Yes.

And I think he was dealing with an injury anyway.

So I don't know how soon he was going to be able to practice.

Now this gives him an an opportunity, gives him a couple of weeks, works some of the dust out.

He's going to be tired.

He's going to be, hey, he's going to be, hey, he's going to be tired like a one-legged man and an ass kicking thing.

Okay.

Because

I tell people all the time, Ojo, and you know this, you get in shape playing football.

You can want all the win spritz you want.

Don't mean that ain't football

because you don't got no helmet.

You don't got no shoulder pads.

You don't got people tugging on you.

And you ain't got cleats on your feet.

so if or

in order for you to get in football shape you got to play football

that's what you got to do that's what in track and field you don't see them doing anything else you don't see them playing basketball to get in shape you get in track shape by running track

you get in football shape by playing football basketball shape by playing basketball

That's how you get in shape.

And so

and I agree with you.

You were talking about this like, man, I just hate when these hold out because then you run the risk of soft tissue because you haven't pushed your body.

And they want, they, hey, hey, take these next couple of reps.

Like, nah, bro, let me, let me build up to it.

Let me build a little callus.

Let me build up to that, bro.

Hey, don't push me too hard too fast because groins, hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors.

But I'm glad Scary Terry got this deal done.

You know, hey,

he got what he wanted.

He got 30 million signing bonus.

He was trying to get that DK because I think DK got 60 million guaranteed.

So he was kind of looking for some, and look, bro,

you straight.

You good?

You straight.

Yeah, hey, that 15,

you're a third-round pick.

If you took care of your money, this right here, just the signing bonus alone, you should be good.

Even before you even get to the big money that you're going to start making next year, you should be straight.

He seems like a guy that has his head

on straight.

He'll do good with his money, but I'm glad Washington.

I always like that, OJo.

I like when teams reward the players.

I do.

Guys that you know, I mean, Cincinnati, they drafted you.

They saw you.

They know your work habits.

They know what you do.

Absolutely.

Hey,

I hate, I don't, I don't like.

So let me get this straight.

I've been here four or five years.

You hard time me, but come free agency.

You go get this joking here.

You don't know what he like.

You don't know what his practice habits is.

You don't know anything about the guy.

But you go give him a boatload of money.

You see me every day busting my ass, and then you hard time me about my paper.

Well,

hey, that's crazy.

I'm like, bro, damn.

That's crazy.

But it's nice to know y'all got some money.

So when I go knocking on the door next year, I don't want to hear.

I don't want to hear no excuses.

I don't want to hear nothing, no joke.

But Jamar Chase is the highest paid at 40.250.

And then you got Jeddah.

But there's a big gap between who's going to be able to fill that gap.

Who's going to be available, Ocho, to go in between that 35 and 40?

Or who pole volts over Chase?

Puka Nakura?

No.

No.

It's going to be a minute.

It's going to be a minute, huh?

You got neighbors.

You got Brian Thomas Jr.

It would probably be neighbors.

Neighbors or Brian Thomas Jr.

If anything, it would probably be neighbors.

Brian Thomas Jr.

might fall right up under that.

Right up under that.

But the next person who

I say neighbors might get maybe 42, 43.

See, Chase had the perfect storm because he had this in a contract year.

So he got the triple crown in a contract.

So if you give him what he's asking for, maybe you get him for 35, 36, 37.

But now, since you didn't, you got to tack on you you got to pay attack you got to pay

they bet they bet against him they bet against that's what they do yeah they they i mean it happens all the time and i wouldn't you know why i wouldn't bet against him because his best friend is the quarterback

hey he gonna get it to him

he got he got he got it to him too

hey hey i'd have said

i'd have said him a Richard Mill.

I got him a Patek.

I'd have got him something real nice.

Yeah, for sure.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Nico Collins already got paid?

I think he did.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, so it'd be one of the young bulls.

I don't know if they get the 40, but Malik Neighbors is.

They might because of the time, Ocho.

Think about, so he got signed this deal this offseason.

By the time they come up, that's going to be 27.

So that'll be two years, three years.

So if a

price is going up,

there'll probably be Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas.

Yeah.

And

probably, guess what, Ocho?

Another thing is going to happen.

There'll probably be an 18th game.

Ah, that's right.

That 18th game is going to be here.

28.

I'm saying 28.

Yeah, probably.

Bigger piece of the pie, too.

So,

hey,

so,

but I'm glad Terry gets it.

He's right there with Garrett Wilson, A.J.

Brown, Terry McLaurin.

They're all around 32 million.

And then you got Amon Ross St.

Brown, Brandon Ayuk, Tyreek, T.

Higgins at 11.

Jalen Waddell is at 12.

So the 2019 draft third-round pick has been the team's leader in reception and receiving yards each of his six seasons.

He's put together a string of five straight 1,000-yard campaigns,

becoming the

first in NFL history to do so with a different quarterback every year per NFL research.

So he's had a different starting quarterback basically every single year.

He's been there.

He's putting together kind of like what D.

Hopp did with it.

It didn't even matter who D-Hop was.

I could have been throwing to D-Hop and he was going to be an all-pro.

He had to.

Now, when he got Deshaun, it really took him to another level.

But it didn't matter if it was Case Keenum, if it was Brian Hoyer, if it was Brock Oswald.

D-Hop ain't give a damn who the quarterback was d hopp was putting the work on everybody

everybody

so that's how d hop made really made a name for himself because he could have used every excuse man give me a quarterback like give me give me this or give me that d hop said no i got who i got

but y'all know who i am who i am all you had to do is put the ball in the vicinity that's it i still don't i still don't believe this man bill o'brien traded d hop for a damn running back.

I don't know what's wrong.

You're talking about a top, you talk about a top at the time, D-Hop had to be top two, top three.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Now, if I'm not mistaken.

And you traded him for a running back?

I think he wanted to get paid too, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's always the deal.

That's always the problem.

And

the running back is already out of the league, and D.

Hop's still going.

He goes to Arizona, has a great season.

He's not the same D-Hop that he once was.

But hell,

who is at year 12?

Unless you, Jerry.

Yeah.

Right.

Everybody's starting to slow down 12, year 12, 13, Ocho, if you're fortunate enough to play that long at the receiving position.

Only Jerry was still putting up crazy.

Jerry had 1,200 yards at 40.

What 40-year-old you know that's going to be playing?

I mean, think about it.

Jeddah got to be 26.

You think Jetta gonna put up 1,200 yards in 14 years from now?

Hell no.

people don't realize, people don't realize how long that, oh, Joe, people don't realize how long Jerry actually played.

Barry.

And the numbers, you got to realize, what was that?

97.

He tore his ACL the first game of the season, came back that same season.

And he caught two touchdowns against us.

Funny thing about it is his situation

is probably a little different than everybody else.

is because he was a focal point of the offense when it came to passing the ball.

He was still the viable number one one option.

So, the targets and the opportunity always presented itself.

Now, most of the players, this, you know, in this day and age, when you reach a certain age and you hit 30, you know, they start acting funny with you.

They

find somebody else, they draft you, bingo, and they'll decrease your opportunities, they'll decrease your targets, and they'll say, oh, well, you lost a step.

I ain't lose nothing.

Don't play with me.

You know what's going on?

They did it to him, too.

They drafted JJ Stokes.

And the next year, who they draft, OJo?

T.

Your boy.

Oh, yeah.

So it happened to everybody.

Don't think, don't think because, oh, you Jerry.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They look at your replacement.

They look.

And then T.O.

put together that a monster season.

And they put together the monster season.

T.O.

had that game against the Bears where he had 265 and 20 catches on Jerry Rice Day.

The Bears say, nah, and somebody else can catch for 300 yards, get 30 points,

You ain't touching it.

And guess what?

T.O.

went crazy.

T.O.

went crazy.

And

as they say, the rest is history.

But

it seems to me, Ocho,

and we're going to talk about this a little bit with the Bingers.

is that the team has all the leverage.

Guys are not willing to miss

million dollars.

Guys are not willing to miss $800,000, $2 million.

Guys are not willing to miss that kind of money, don't you?

So although they might be in the right,

I have a great foundation to stand on.

I need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract.

I know this, you know this.

If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me.

So I've outperformed the contract.

Compensate me.

But very few guys are willing to risk.

Now, I wouldn't miss the whole season, probably I would come back eight games because I want to get accredited.

Because if you miss the whole season, you lose accreditation.

You don't get credit for that season.

So you got to get at least eight games, Ocho, in order to get credit for the season.

But, Ocho,

guys ain't really trying to miss no $9, $10, $12 million.

So, and so that's the leverage that

the teams have and they know it they know you're not going to miss that money see jerry knows jerry says i i all that all jerry gonna go to the bank and say hey check this out i'm gonna be a little i'm gonna i'm gonna be a little slow this month so i'll probably catch y'all in october okay mr jones

because they saw jerry just got a check for 432 in march absolutely

So they'll they'll put that down the road.

I can't go to my kids school and say, you know, I'm a little behind this month.

Can y'all no, no, no, Mr.

Sharp, we're going to need that $3,000 child care.

We're going to need that $15,000 for a school, private tuition.

They'll give those guys the benefit of the doubt.

Just like us, we're in situations, Ocho, that we get things from

financial institutions that normal people couldn't go do.

I understand.

I'm not here trying to tell you, you know, I'm just saying there are certain things that they'll allow us to do, knowing who we are, knowing the financial situation that we're in they'll they're gonna be a little bit more relaxed

but

guys are just they just can't they just can't afford to loot leave that kind of money on the table and it's been going on for so long guys like they fight it as long as they can

but you gotta go they do hold in but you know ocho at the end of the day like i said i just can't see a situation where michael parsons going to leave 1.3 million on the table hey i i just

I don't know.

Hey, because think about it, 1.3 million and Texas.

Yeah, I know, but still, I don't know.

Because you're going to, if you, if you fold here,

if you fold here,

then that's your leverage.

Then you're not, you, you don't hit, you don't get another.

Didn't Jerry tell you, we got him under contract for three more years.

He has no leverage.

He's not going to play with him like that.

He's not going to play.

Did you see Jerry slide to the front of his chair when he talked to Stephen A?

When somebody slide to the front of their chair,

they mean business.

Okay,

they mean business.

Listen, in a conversation like that, when it comes to money and you slide forward, or when you're playing video games, this is very important.

I know you don't play video games, but the chat can attest to this.

When stuff is getting serious, and it's in the fourth quarter,

and you slide up in your chair and get closer to the monitor, it's go time.

It's go time.

You mean nothing but business at that point.

So I know Gary was serious.

I knew he was serious.

And he meant exactly what he was saying.

He wanted to make sure Stephen A understood

the seriousness of what he was saying.

Yeah.

We got him under contract for three more years.

So he's telling you, I got this fifth year option and I got two franchise tags.

I'm not afraid that you nasty work too, though.

That's nasty work.

Matter of fact, to even mention that, to even say that.

And no, it doesn't surprise me based on some of the comments he said previously.

We're talking about, well, just if I pay him not, doesn't mean he's going to be available because he got hurt.

What?

That's that.

That's still

just unbelievable.

Did you watch?

Have you been watching the documentary?

No, I still ain't still ain't checking out.

Okay.

In 1999, I think it was 96.

When

he did the deal outside of the NFL, because because the NFL with Nike, he did a deal with Safil Knight and Nike,

and the league sued him for 250 million.

Hold on.

Come on.

They sued him for $250 million.

Jerry turned around and countersued them for $700 million.

Talking about they had a monopoly.

So they was at the owners' meeting.

They had the Norman Carp.

Okay, now they asked Jerry to leave because they're about to talk about him.

So Jerry tells the story that he gots up.

He gets up and he starts to walk out because he knows he can't be a part of the meeting.

He said, I know, guys, you guys are suing me for 300 million and you're going to try to take my ball club.

He said, I know that's what y'all going to do.

He said, but I tell you what, I'm suing you for 700 million.

And if I win, I'm going to collect every effing cent.

Wait, he talked, he talked.

Wait, hold on.

He got, he got, he got cajones like that

he says i know what y'all trying to do

he say but if i win i'm gonna collect every i don't care how long it takes i'm gonna collect every effing

what what is what's the cowboy documentary on

i'm gonna watch this tonight bro how many how many uh how many episodes it's like eight episodes eight oh i gotta see that i gotta

pat paul tagliboo went for that.

What are you going to do?

Because at the end of the day, look, them owners,

legal fees are coming out of their pockets.

That's why every time they like, hey, the longer something goes on, litigation goes on, those billable hours.

I know a little something about billable hours

When you start getting up there, Ocho, you start getting up there a thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars an hour, and everything is a charge.

You call a how's it going?

That's a charge.

They go down there and file, that's a charge.

They answer a motion, that's a charge.

You in court,

that's a charge.

But that's a different ballgame, too.

See, Jerry was saying, hold on.

Jerry said, hold on.

I'm doing four times what anybody else is doing,

but I'm getting 130th of it.

No more.

Oh, that's crazy.

No more.

Oh, that's crazy.

Look, the one thing that the NFL don't like getting sued, that's why they kind of

left Al alone.

Al said, Al said, I'm going to L.A.

No, Al, you can't do that.

I'll sue you.

Al said, I'm going back to Oakland.

Al, you can't do that.

I'm excited.

Now, how did the story end?

How did the story end with the NFL and Jerry?

Jerry is the only one that's not a part of the revenue sharing when it comes to merchandise, when it comes to that.

So he pockets everything.

Everything.

That's the Dallas Cowboys.

The NFL said they own the local.

Jerry said, no, you don't.

I believe that law.

Trey Hendrickson prolonged contract dispute with the Bengal has finally been resolved.

Hendrickson and the Bengal have agreed to rework the contract and will provide him with an additional $14 million,

bringing his 2025 salary to $30 million.

The agreement expires after the 2025 season, meaning Hendrickson will have a chance to become a free agent and cash in on the open market, unless the bingos opt to use the franchise tag on hendrickson next offseason i don't see that happening because you got to give him 150 raise of what he's making right now so 150 raise is what

33 and a half 34 million what's 150 raise of uh 30 million yeah i i i had i had

like 30 i had to uh i had to stand up i had to stand up with excitement i had to stand up with excitement this is very important to me this is very important to me we got all hands on deck right now i know y'all love talking trash about my bangers huh we had the offensive players playing in the preseason huh because we trying to take the beginning of this season seriously so on the back end of the season we don't have to worry about anybody else being in control of our destiny or the average of the top five huh hey chad you hear me we got trey hendrickson signed okay i know our defense was bad last year This is a new year.

We got some new key offseason acquisitions.

We have people we got in the draft, and we got Trey Hendrickson coming off two back-to-back 17 sack game seasons, right?

This year, he gonna have 17 and a half sack seasons.

17 and a half sack seasons.

He gets 17 sacks in a game.

That's gonna be a record.

My bad, I said it wrong.

You know what I meant, but he gonna get 20.

He gonna get 22 sacks this year.

He gonna get 22 sacks this year.

And the Bengals defense,

listen to me.

Stay with me real quick.

Okay, listen.

I'm right there with you.

We don't need,

I know my Bengal fans in here.

We don't need our defense to be top five,

top 10.

Just get us somewhere around 15 or 16, somewhere in that area.

Middle of the pack.

You need to be middle of the pack.

Yeah, that's it.

That's it.

That's all we need.

Middle of the pack.

Who they?

And I'm telling you what's going to happen.

I'm going to see y'all boys in February.

I'm going to see y'all.

Book your tickets now.

February.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you now.

Book it now.

Book your tickets to San Francisco right now.

I don't know who we're going to play.

I know one thing.

The ASC North goes through Cincinnati.

The AFC North goes through Cincinnati.

Franchise tag is the average of the top five.

So that might be.

Let's go.

TJ Waters, the highest player at 41 million.

Miles Garrett at 40 million.

Danelle Hunter, 35.6.

Max Crosby, 35.

Nick Bosa, 34 million.

So

you get 150% raise or the average of the top five players at that position.

So he'll be somewhere around 30.

I don't know.

That might be about 37.

Because if you add 41, 40,

might be about 36, 37.

If they franchise him, I don't see

it.

Listen, we're not going through this again.

We're not going through this.

Well, if you franchise the Mocha, all that money is on the cap because you can't prorate it because that's just a lump sum money.

It's not like a signing bonus.

You can prorate it over life of the contract three years, four years, five years.

When you franchise a guy, that's 30, whatever that is, that number is, that goes on the cap this year.

That's a hard cap here.

Yeah.

Don't be mad.

Hey, listen, I'm telling you now.

I know I have Ravens fans in the chat.

I know I have Steelers fans in the chat.

I know I have Browns fans in the chat.

I love y'all.

I love y'all dearly.

You mean a lot to me.

But I'm telling you, the ASC North is going through Cincinnati.

Book it now.

I'm telling you right now.

It's going through, what you call them.

It's going through

Baltimore.

Come again.

Come again.

It's going through Baltimore.

Going through 95.

Hold on.

I think, check your mic.

Something wrong with your mic.

I can't hear you.

95.

All right.

All right.

Okay.

All right, but hey, listen, you're going to be sad.

You're going to be upset.

You're going to be sad.

You're going to be upset.

Who they?

Who they?

Who they think they're going to beat them Bengals?

Who they?

Everybody.

Everybody.

Everybody's going to beat them bingos.

Nobody.

All I know, I was saying last year, Wendy, Wendy, when they gonna win another game.

Wendy.

When they last year, understand.

We started our season off slow.

We had a little blunder.

We started off slow.

We start out the gate 0-2.

We lost to the Patriots.

There's no reason we should have lost that game.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, the Patriot might have won.

How many games the Patriots won last year?

What, four?

I know they won one game for sure.

I don't know how many they won after that, but I know they won.

Okay.

One game.

What helmet is that?

Huh?

You're a Bronco.

You're a Bronco.

Come on.

Hey, listen.

That's like, you know what?

I was dating this girl for two weeks, and you're like, you claiming her.

That's what that is.

You're a Baltimore presence in rain.

I dated the girl for two years.

Oh, Joe.

Ain't no two weeks.

She's still in the honeymoon phase.

That won't even count.

That's a relationship.

That don't even count.

That don't even count.

Hey, you took about two years.

Two years.

You don't even know each other yet.

You don't even know each other yet.

you still getting to know each other

we went to bali we went to uh uh uh uh uh uh where else we go nowhere nowhere turks and catos no absolutely we went to the malfi coast after the saybo that you taking them kind of two years

them the type of trips five years in five years in for you hey two years that's red lobster that's red lobster that's golden corral like that's that's you that's that wave.

You ain't going to know Bali in only two years.

You know, I was, I was a big baller back in the day.

Who they, who they, who they think they're going to beat them bangles.

Who they?

Who they?

Who they think they're going to beat them Bangles?

Oh

body.

Hey, anybody, but I'm glad Trey was, uh, he's outperformed the contract.

Back-to-back season, had 35 sacks and back-to-back seasons.

That doesn't happen very often.

And I was glad he was able to get a buck to say, yes, sir.

Hey, I'm sad too.

I hope we're talking about this, but I'm going to let you go because I don't got to run the show in front of me.

But I'm sad about one of the roster moves that happened down there in Tampa.

Okay, we're going to finish.

We're finna get into it.

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