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Commanders, Ocho, we talked about this the other night.

You know, we talked about like Brian Robinson Jr.

Well, he's not going to play, blah, blah, blah.

I say, well, Ocho, I need to watch the game.

And once I watch the game, I'll be able to tell you, is this a good move?

Why are they doing it?

We watched the game and we came back.

Okay, I see why they're trading Brian Robinson Jr.

The 49ers get Brian Robinson Jr.

for a six, a 2026 six-round draft pick.

The 49ers room banged up.

Isaac Guerrero,

Jordan James,

Corey Kiner, and others have all missed time.

Christian McCaffrey, remember, Ocho, he only played four games last last season, has actually been the healthiest running back in camp.

The commanders' running back room now, Austin Eckler, Chris Rodriguez, Bill Krotsky Merritt, Jeremy McNichols, Dimitri Felton, and Casimir Allen.

You like,

I mean, for the 49ers, it seems like a no-brainer.

I mean, all their damn running backs are banged up, except Z-Mac.

I mean, listen,

they had to get somebody, and obviously

bring a veteran presence in that can come in.

And

he's not Christian McCaffrey,

but could run the ball, obviously.

It was a spot that was needed.

They're going to be all right.

Outside of that, I'm still curious.

He can run and catch the Ocho.

He got good hands.

He can catch it on the backfield.

And that's what you need to be in the 49ers off the bank.

You know, Kyle liked to run a lot of screens.

He liked to run a bubble screen.

Yeah, I was trying to say,

the receiver position, the receiver position, I'm not sure

if the calls outside have been answered yet.

For the 49ers?

Yeah, for the 49ers.

You know, Brandon Ayuka is not back yet.

I mean, who's going to step up and be that number one?

Is it going to be Ricky Purcell?

Is he going to take that next step

in seeing himself viewed as a number one receiver?

I mean, that's still yet to be answered.

Number one receivers get number one coverage.

hey hey look hey look uncan ojo and you don't want to put too much on c-mac you know you want to try to keep him healthy throughout the season yeah i think that's going to be the biggest key for them

well absolutely um look he's only so he's only so big i mean he's probably 205.

you're asking a guy 205 to touch the ball 300 plus times Eventually, he might get through the season, but then the cumulative effect,

now you got postseason.

So he he runs it 250.

You throw it to him another, you know, 70 times, OJo.

So that's 325 touches.

Now,

I'm not talking about the ones that, you know, he didn't catch the ball and he got hit anyway.

I'm not talking about the times that he got blocked, that he blocked, and that's a collision.

I'm not talking about the time he got tackled, he landed on the ground, that's a hit, and the guy landed on top of him, or two guys landed on top of him.

So it's a cumulative effect of somebody.

He's not Derrick Henry.

He's not, he's not.

He's not Saquon.

He's not built.

is he put together?

Yes.

But he's a compact, a 200.

He's still 205 pounds.

And

I mean, Emmett wasn't the biggest guy, but Emmett knew how to get down.

You didn't get no clean shot on Emmett.

And then plus, you saw them 350-pound halls.

He was running behind.

So by the time you realized it, he was already 10 yards down the field.

So you dragging him down.

You ain't getting no clean shot on him.

But I agree with you guys.

I think this is a, look,

you're gonna you was gonna release him so i turned him a guy that i was gonna release oh joe and joe i turned it into a draft draft compensation i got a six-round pick for a guy that i was gonna release and somebody could have picked him up for nothing now obviously the 49ers wouldn't have been able to get him because they had the record so i probably uh he been a vet he'll uh

um

lowest the highest so whoever finished with the worst record would have first divs on him this way i keep him out of the free agency i feel you know free agent market and I get the guy.

Okay.

They said, okay, fine.

You want him?

Give him a six-round draft pick.

So I like the move.

I like the move for the 49ers for the simple fact they're banged up at that position.

And I love the move for Washington.

They have an overflow at that position.

So something I was going to have to get rid of anyway, Ocho, I turned it into draft compensation.

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There's this

narrative that the Bingles are one of the cheapest teams in the NFL.

Joe, I don't know if you know this.

Hey, hey, hey, that narrative should be gone.

Have you seen?

Have you seen?

Okay.

Okay.

Just

after we read this,

I'm going to let the chat chime in and what y'all think.

Boomer Sizon, I worked with Boom for 10 years, a decade at CBS.

Called the Bingles out for making their legends pay for their own flight, hotel, and extra tickets to a ring of fame, a ring of honor game.

Boomer, one of the most decorated quarterbacks in Bengal's history.

He's one of two Bengals players to ever

win the MVP award.

And he took the team to the Super Bowl.

So Ken Anderson won the award.

Boomer won the award.

Ken took him to the Super Bowl.

Boomer took him to the Super Bowl.

So did Joe.

Boomer also has a game in which he's thrown for over 500 yards.

He's also in the Ring of Honor.

honor.

The team is offering for him to attend the event, the Bringles Ring of Honor, in late October to honor Dave Laugham and Lamar.

Lamar Parrish.

Lamar

Parrish, okay?

As part of the class of 2020.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Laffam, Laffam and Parrish will bring the total number to 12.

As part of the invite, Joe, check this out.

Asiason gets two complimentary game tickets to sit in the stands, plus the option to buy another ticket.

But rather than pay for Assassin's travel and lodging, like most teams would do, the team said that they're paying for a block of rooms at the Runners-Office Hotel in Cincinnati and that Isiason could stay there for a preferred discounted rate.

Asiason had to RSVP by Friday in order to guarantee his seat for the game.

He later added that he believed he was expected to pay for his flight as well.

Now, I don't know how anybody, listen, I can only speak.

Joe, I played for two teams.

I played for the Ravens.

I played for the Broncos.

Anytime,

anytime

they have something, alumni weekend, they have somebody being honored.

Somebody's going into the ring of fame.

Somebody's getting their Hall of Fame ring.

They will bring the alumni back,

pay for them to come back, put them up at no cost.

They will have suites so the players can go in there and have a good time.

But not the Bengals.

The Bengals say, nah, y'all get an idea with the rest of the fans.

Sit in the stands with the rest of the fans.

I mean,

no, you sit in the suites.

So that's that.

That ain't what he's saying.

That's not what he's saying.

The alumni that come back for the ring of honor sit in the suites.

They don't sit in the they don't sit in the stands.

So why wouldn't I

been to all of them, Monk?

We sit in the suites.

I don't know.

I don't know what Boomer talk about.

I went into the

Ring of Honor with Boomer.

Those that are part of the Ring of Honor alumni, I've been back once already.

You sit in the suites.

You don't sit in the stands.

Now, as far as room and board goes, I'm not sure how that works.

I always stay stay at the AC hotel right on the banks.

Do you pay for that or do they pay for it?

They have a...

Wait, wait.

Do they pay for it or do you pay for it?

It is a simple question.

I don't remember.

I don't remember.

You do remember.

Did it come off your credit card or did it come off their credit card?

I don't remember.

I don't remember.

I didn't book my stuff.

I didn't book my stuff.

You know, my baby had...

Well, who booked it?

She upstairs.

She handled it.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

At the time, you were not with your baby upstairs.

So when you go back for function for the Cincinnati Bingles, are you paying for it out of your pocket or are they

comping everything?

They should be comping, man.

That's what I'm saying.

Chat, chat.

Joe, can I let me finish this, Joe?

Chat, you see what he did?

He went all around that.

He did all that hunk of them buckets.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

All right,

that the Bengals don't pay the fees.

Hold on, hold on.

So, so all the, all these, all these, so y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, we spend all this money all season long and we complain about buying it, buying a hotel room.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, Ocho.

Don't do it.

The team invited you back, Ocho.

You got an invitation.

How about this here?

When I went to the Hall of Fame, when I went to the Hall of Fame, hold on, time out.

Joe, you out there on a $30 million property.

Unk, you got $2 million in dogs.

And y'all complaining about buying the hotel room?

Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen.

Check this out.

Check this out.

Arkanocho,

when Phoenix, anytime they, hold up.

Hey, look, anytime Phoenix has done something, whether it was for Amari Stademeer, whether it was for Steve Nash, they invite all us back.

They pay for us to come.

Not only that, they pay us to be there.

Joe, when I went to the Hall of Fame, Mr.

Boland paid, Mr.

Bolin, obviously I got come.

My brother was my presenter.

He said,

I'll pay for 30 people to come and put 30 people up.

He paid for the party.

When we came, when I came to get my ring for the haul, he paid whomever you want to come.

We had a suite to ourselves.

When we have the Super Bowl, everybody comes back.

You plus one.

We have a suite.

As a matter of fact, we have two or three suites.

And

a golf event, but he flies you and a guest in.

I'm shocked.

I'm looking at this.

I'm like, it can't be like this for everybody.

The Ravens, the Ravens, when they invite me to come back to stuff, I'm like, well, I might not be able to make it, but I need, you know, I travel with

my camera guy.

Okay, he covered.

Yeah.

They make you, oh, we blocked it off.

Hold on.

Hey, hold on.

They got off.

You got it off with a discount rate, too.

You ain't got to pay full price.

I know.

If the discount rate is free.

Hey, hey,

you ain't got to pay full price, baby.

I understand.

I know.

I look, I had it special.

I know I had it special because when I would go back for events, I didn't even stay.

I didn't even stay at the regular hotel.

I told Mr.

B, I said, that was too.

far.

I said, Mr.

B, I'll pick up the phone and call.

I said, Mr.

B, that's too far.

He said, 84, stay wherever you want.

We got it.

His secretary name was Lisa.

Send it to Lisa.

She'll take care of it.

Yeah.

Anything with the Ravens, boom.

Hey, when, when, when I broke the record,

caught the most, when I broke Ozzie's record, they flew my family in.

They flew my mom, my mom, my kids, my sister,

my homeboy.

They did that.

I can't believe the people.

Oh, my goodness.

Get up off us, man.

Get up off us.

They got too much.

Hey, get up off us.

We ain't got too much money in that outfit.

Hey, let me tell you something.

Let me tell you something.

They said they invited you back.

Now we can't pay for everything, but what we can do for you

is we can discount you some room for you don't have to pay full price.

i'm glad you said that i'm glad you said that i ain't paying for each shelves i'm gonna discount it i'm gonna discount your airline i'm glad you said that that's what i got you see chat

hey well hey hey boy y'all a boy

ocho come on now

y'all heard it chat y'all heard ocho hey let me let me let me tell you something about us now

we love we love to pay full price when it's convenient and something we want to do but when it comes to other stuff you invited me on

come to other stuff boy i tell you boy about it right oh you

oh joe you want to do what it oh you remember we had the conversation about people charging people charging people to come to their wedding oh yeah oh yeah you like i didn't pay you

that's a no-no now that's a no-no

well how you gonna invite me to the ring of honor and then charge me

come on oh you know that ain't right

but listen they have listen this is they have a way of doing their thing, doing things.

That's the way they do their things.

You know, I ain't got nothing to do with that.

You know?

Oh, Joe, can that's your question?

So, when, when, when, when, when, when you guys come, when they come back,

it's only 10 guys.

I'll be here in October.

I'm gonna let you know.

But it's only 10, oh, Joe, it's only 10 guys.

You mean to tell me they can't conqu 10 guys and pick up 10 guys' rooms?

Hey, you know, 10 guys' rooms,

that's 10,

boom, depending on how much a room is.

They got to deal with the hotel, man.

They got to deal with the hotel, oh, Joe.

I mean,

in Cincinnati, first of all, you're not putting anybody up at the Four Seasons.

You're not putting anybody up at the Ritz Carlton.

You're not putting anybody up at the Intercontinental or any of those fancy places like that.

So it's going to be a Marriott.

It's going to be a hyatt.

It's going to be a nice hotel.

Everybody says, okay,

that's what it is.

That's what Boom said.

The Renaissance.

The Renaissance.

I don't know what the pricing at the renaissance is.

I'm sure it's the night.

It's in Cincinnati.

$250.

Whoa, hey, you, hey, look at that.

Hold on, hold on.

Look at the Renaissance hotels in Cincinnati.

You getting real, like, real, real sassy talking about Cincinnati.

Like, Cincinnati is better than different.

What do you talk about?

But

what are we talking about?

Don't get it mistaken.

Listen, my city has grown exponentially over the years.

Have you been to Cincinnati?

$206.

You've been in Cincinnati over on the banks?

You've been over there on the river?

Have you seen the restaurants?

Have you been there?

Have you seen the women?

They ain't got no chills.

Women in Cincinnati?

Huh?

Top five in the world.

You hear me?

Joe, what you got?

What?

Yeah, what you talking about?

Well, Cincinnati don't play, boy.

You telling me I'm sleeping.

Well, Jordan,

you do realize Jordan was born and raised in Cincinnati, and Jordan is shaking his head.

Michael Jordan?

Yeah,

I'll talk about my Jordan.

That's sitting here laughing.

Jordan ain't been in Cincinnati in so long, he don't know what's out there.

He just got back off vacation in Georgia.

Okay, well, he knows.

He knows he knows.

Let me tell you, hey, Joe, he knows.

Let me tell you something about Cincinnati, man.

Listen, go ahead.

Got Paycor Stadium,

right?

Okay.

Got E.O.

One of the worst in the ever thing.

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful restaurant right there on the banks, right?

Condos, apartments have gone up.

My dog got a funnel truck out there called Funnel Cake Island.

You hear me?

But Cincinnati

has been on the come up, and people don't realize it because they think of Cincinnati of the old.

You hear me?

So you're saying if I go to Cincinnati now, I can catch a nice little vibration.

Yo, you go to Cincinnati tomorrow, boy, you're going to fall in love and you'll move.

You'll go get your property out there.

I'm telling you.

This man talking about a food truck.

Yeah.

I'm talking about Cincinnati in general.

Food, the people.

We got the best fans in the world, Joe.

What you talking about?

Y'all ain't got but 25,000.

25,000 what?

Fans.

But let me see.

Everything about Cincinnati is better than Denver and Baltimore.

And that's no disrespect to the city.

Not even close.

Not even close.

No disrespect to the city and the fans.

10 guys, you got 10 guys coming back.

One of the guys that's coming back, well, first of all, the guy that's coming back, he's in the ring.

His name is up in the stadium.

And the room, Joe, is $206.

And it's probably for one day.

It's probably one day.

206.

So you bring the guys in.

I don't know how they do it, but they would always bring us in on a Friday.

We have something Friday night, Saturday, you have something during the day.

You have a golf event during the day.

You wake up, they get feed your breakfast.

You bus over to the stadium.

They bust you to the stadium.

They got it laid out.

You got food and stuff, normal food that's in the suite.

They got that, then they take you back to the you take, you get back on the bus, they take you back to the hotel, you take your ass home

doing that.

Well, I tell you what, I don't know about nobody else, but Cincinnati take care of me, and I don't have to pay for nothing.

How about that?

How about how about how about that?

Oh, Joe, oh, Joe, you gotta make sure the former player is straight, bro.

Hey, Joe, Joe, yeah,

I ain't had to pay for nothing in Cincinnati since 2002.

So what y'all talk about, I don't know.

No, what Boomer talking about?

Because

I wouldn't, we are, everybody knows they cheap.

No, nobody.

We just paid Joe Burrow 55 million.

We just paid Jamaic Chase north of 40.

We just paid T.

Higgins 35.

You've been in existence.

You've been in existence since 1968.

You've been in existence since 1968.

So you finally paid paid three players in the last three years.

What about the other 54 years?

Hey, you have to evolve, huh?

Everything has to evolve over time.

Boy, cheeseburgers.

Wait, let me say

cheeseburgers at McDonald's used to be 30 cents, Joe.

They used to be 30 cents.

Now they're $2.12.

Tell Joe where y'all practice at on the field.

Okay, where y'all feel at?

On grass.

Where the grass feels at?

On the water.

under on under an overpass so people can stop their part people can park their car joe we practice hey oh joe we practice on the water okay the water hey y'all ain't on my damn water

joe joe it's a it's a favorite stop that damn it's a beautiful breeze a beautiful breeze it hits through the gate under the overpass and so it's the the breeze is always flowing while you practice so even when it's not

i can ride by and throw trash on the field, Joe.

I can ride by and throw trash on the field.

Hey, Joe.

Hey, Joe, let me tell you something.

Don't listen.

Don't listen.

Cincinnati is one of the most beautiful places you could ever be.

You could ever live.

And I guarantee if you visit.

Am I lying?

If you visit there, you won't want to leave.

I promise you.

Ocho.

I promise you this, Ocho.

You take this to the bank.

I won't tell you everything.

but i won't lie about anything you know me

hey but i'm letting you go you know that's what you want to do.

Now, one thing, one thing about it, Joe, you know when it comes to me.

Yeah.

So when it comes to me, I lie for both of y'all, but I never lie to you.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

You lied to us, though, recently.

About what?

Yeah, we'll get into it.

Since that is not being cheap?

We're not.

We're not.

Hey, listen.

One thing about it, when it comes to business, it's about longevity, huh?

It's about longevity.

Not just forking it out because you can.

Not forking out because

you make it seem like y'all got people.

Oh, Joe.

Y'all make it seem like y'all got people going into the ring of honor every year.

Y'all don't.

Y'all ain't got it like that.

Y'all ain't got no rich history.

It's not rich history.

Yo, don't play in Cincinnati.

Oh, well, no,

Joe, you know who played in Cincinnati?

You want to talk about

rich history?

Do you know who played in Cincinnati?

Hold on.

on, I know every all the great players.

I'm gonna give you one name.

One of the greatest to ever play in Cincinnati, rich history.

Oh, Lord, have mercy.

Joe, you know what I'm talking about, Joe?

Go ahead.

What that young

Anthony Muyos, huh?

Wait,

Anthony Muyoza.

Rich history.

Anthony Muyos ain't from no Liberty City.

Huh?

But Osho played in Cincinnati, but rich history.

Hey, listen, hey, he might be funny.

He might be entertaining, but you can't talk the story of wide receiver without his name.

But one of the greatest.

How are we talking about rich history?

Oh, Joe, we're not trying to deny you your respect, your rightful place.

Don't talk about my city like that.

Don't talk about my team like that.

Yo, black ass from Liberty City.

You ain't from Cincinnati.

Y'all from Cincinnati.

You're from Liberty Brown.

Allowed me to live my childhood dream.

Boy, I'm from Cincinnati, too.

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the same okay mike brown doesn't do what mr bolin did you know that'll that don't make brown

now now we got now we got what you call him now we got walton pinner so I know they're gonna lay that thing out.

Uh, uh, Walton,

the Walmart family, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's son, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's who owned the Broncos,

yep.

Oh, heck,

hey, hey, Mr.

What's his name, Mr.

What?

Oh, Walton Pinner, the Walton Pinner group, him and the son.

But you, if you see this, man, holler at your boy, holla at your boy.

I'm looking to get a line in Walmart.

Hey, hey, oh, Joe, Joe, them my people, man, I can put you in contact with them.

What you looking for?

I'm just trying to put an affordable line for my people in the world due to the economy that the people can afford of luxury wear, affordable luxury wear in all Walmarts.

Yeah, I don't know if luxury and affordable go hand in hand.

That's oxymoronic.

That's oxymoronic.

Luxury and affordable.

That's the problem.

You allow the man to make you think luxury isn't affordable.

Therefore, you've been brainwashed.

Is luxury has to be expensive.

And that's what I'm trying to break, my brother.

Right?

No, it's the person that described luxury in the dictionary.

I don't know.

So you got to go way, way, way back.

That's the problem.

That's what that's what the man

luxury.

That's what the man has done to us.

He has put us in the box and thinking that luxury has to be affordable, therefore it must cost a certain amount of money.

No, I'm trying to show you.

I'm trying to show you luxury can look good for under $100.

That's like saying affordable housing.

Nobody expects affordable housing.

We expect affordable housing to be affordable.

That means a lot of the masses can't afford it.

You're not trying to get something.

Is anything on Star Island affordable?

It depends on who you ask.

It depends on who you ask.

Oh, okay.

Oh, Joe, ain't no who you ask.

Affordable Star Island ain't affordable.

See?

See?

You're not listening to me, huh?

You're not listening to me.

My brother.

I'm listening.

I'm trying to take you outside the box and show you luxury can mean more than one thing.

The reason why you're putting it in Walmart tells you everything you need to know.

So name something that goes in Walmart that people consider luxurious because they buy.

Let me tell you something.

Let me tell you.

Let me tell you.

Hold on.

I'm going to get you.

I'm going to get it together right now, Joe.

i'm gonna get together right now

go ahead

you want to know something

that is of luxury that goes in walmart right

yes

now ask me the question

ask me the question tell me something that goes in walmart that's luxury go ahead ask me the question

what's what's luxurious in walmart me

You ain't in there yet.

I will be.

Now, look, Walmart does, I think Walmart, Walmart and Costco sell diamonds.

I think they got $100,000, $200,000 diamonds in there, right?

And Walmart and Costco?

I know Costco.

I know Costco.

Yeah, yeah.

But I'm saying,

there's, but Walmart, normally when you think of Walmart, people go to Walmart, they're by like Walmart, Costco, you buy it in bulk.

You're not trying to go spend $200 on a sweatsuit.

You know what I'm saying?

So

when you go in there, it's like Shaq.

Shaq sold his shoes.

They were affordable.

20, 40, 20, I think the highest pair was maybe like, what, $30?

That's different than you said, okay, I'm going to be in Foot Locker or I'm going to be in Nike Town or I'm going to be at Shoe Palace.

So that's all I'm saying.

And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I'm just saying when you say luxurious and affordable.

That doesn't mean that to me, for someone who shops at Walmart,

for someone who wears the clothes at Walmart.

Matter of fact, I got one for you right now, Joe.

And I bet you people in the chat even know about this.

You too, Uncle.

Because you might.

What do you got?

Have you seen the avias that Walmart sells that look like new balance?

I have.

I have seen them.

You know what I'm saying?

A Via, yeah, Avia.

The Avias.

Yeah.

A VI.

Avia, yes, Avia.

I've seen an A.

I don't know what you said.

Yeah, man, Joe.

Boy, Joe, I got the blue pair and I got a white pair with the neon green lining, Joe, and the white pair with the blue lining, Joe.

Yeah.

Actually,

I did a speaking engagement up in Bentonsville at the Walmart headquarters for about 3,000 people.

Yeah, many years ago, Joe, you probably was in...

This had to be

2000 and

this had to be like 2000, 2000.

Oh, Joe, you know all that's up there where I went to to college at, man, the University of Arkansas.

For real?

And we call it Bud Walton Arena because it's

after the Walmarts, after the Walton's.

Yeah.

All right.

And listen, I'm glad y'all.

They the one that put Five and Diamond out of business.

You see?

The Five and Ten Cent store.

This is why relationships are so important.

See?

Punk played there.

Joe know the people.

Y'all going to put me in connection.

I got a vision and I wouldn't have been able to make

this vision happen without the connection and the Wi-Fi of y'all.

That's what I tell people all the time.

The number one thing in business is relationships.

People think it's brains.

No, it's about relationships.

Because you never, because here's the thing, you never know.

That person that used to sweep up this and sweep up that or did this that was a lower level, he done he or she done moved up the ranks.

Anyway, speaking of Arkansas Natives, Jerry Jones doubled down on Michael Parsons today.

We got him for three years, no matter what.

Michael Parsons with the team's final preseason game tonight.

Someone in the tunnel shouted, Micah, come to the Falcons.

Michael responded, take a call.

Man, y'all know.

Matt Schaub, a candidate.

Check this out.

Matt Schaub, a candidate for NFL executive director, wants the union to file an immediate grievance against Cowboys and Jerry Jones for negotiating directly with Michael Parsons.

Which you should not be doing.

No.

But see, what he's trying to do, Elcho, here's the thing though.

What he's trying to say, I'm the general manager also, but it's what the appellate court said.

The appellate court said, even though Roger Goodell says, I'm going to be the arbitrator, he's saying, where's the hint of fairness in that?

Jerry, even though you say you're the general manager at the time, you're still the owner.

And you can't negotiate directly.

So you're going to have to remove yourself.

Jerry saying he can wear both of them hats listen Jerry played by his own set of rules

he does but they've allowed him

owners in general when you got that kind of money when you got that kind of power and backing and wealth you can play by your own set of rules matter of fact when you have that kind of money either the owner of the team either GM of the team you can make those set of rules and you can keep them the things you're doing when you're the most profitable franchise like the Dallas Cowboys are and they've been run a certain way for a very long time you can make your own rules which is why you can walk around and talk the way he talks and there's nothing anybody can do about it

that works

if you have one

you can't have three or four of those

it works because Jerry is the only one All the other owners are in the collective bargain agreement.

All the other owners adhere to the policies and regulations of what you can have one.

When back when in the 70s and 80s and 90s, it was Al.

Al Davis was the Maverick.

He was the renegade.

Jerry Jones sat at the feet of Al Davis and learned all that Al knew.

So he's the new, he's the modern day Al Davis.

It works as long as you got one.

You start getting two, three, four, it's not going to work.

But I agree with Matt Shaw.

Because see, it's what Jerry's trying to do.

He's trying to say, but I'm the general manager.

But as the appellate court said to Roger Roger Goodale, I understand that you're the arbitrator, but you're still, but you, but you're still the commissioner of the league.

And you want to be able to hear this argument

and decide.

But you said, but I'm the arbiter.

No, but I still know that you're the commissioner of the NFL.

So, Jerry, I understand that you say you're the general manager, but you're still the owner of the team.

So, where is the hint of fairness?

Hey, think about that real quick, Joe.

Joe, think about that, Joe.

What's that?

I mean,

you playing for the Broncos.

Joe, you playing for the Hawks,

and the owner comes straight to you,

knowing you don't know.

You know about the money.

You know about that part.

But when it comes to contracts, they bring you the contract.

Goddamn contract is big.

Yeah.

Contract this big.

Talk about go ahead and read through that.

Yeah.

Man, come on, man.

Stop playing, man.

Honestly, it's somewhat insulting.

You know, no disrespect to Michael Parsons.

It's somewhat insulting if the owner comes in trying to undermine you, trying to undermine not only Michael Parsons, but undermine the agent as well.

Because I know there's certain things and certain languages that Micah's not going to know or understand that he's not going to be able to see in something that big.

Right.

I wonder if people have ever seen the NFL contract, honk.

They don't

look like a goddamn pamphlet.

Can I ask you a question, Docho?

Joe?

Do y'all think Jerry Jones have personal attorneys?

Yes.

Absolutely.

So

why wouldn't he negotiate directly with someone else

when he has an attorney?

Does he do that?

Only with, see, Jerry is willing to negotiate only when he's in an advantageous situation.

See, when somebody is on the other side that's in an advantageous situation, he sends his lawyers in to do the negotiating.

Now he feels that he's in an upper hand.

Now, I don't believe this.

A lot of people, you know,

he feels he has the upper hand.

He can slick talk.

Now, I got to have these escalator clauses and block.

Okay, something, you know, I need all that in there.

I can double dip because, hey,

if I release you,

you go sign with another team, oh, that offsets some of the money.

I still, no, no, no, no, no.

It don't offset nothing.

I'm going to get every dime that you owe me, and I'm going to go over here and get some more money.

All that needs to be included, Ojo.

Yeah.

That's too much.

All that needs to be.

The moral clauses, all that

need to be gone over with a fine teeth call.

A fine tea card.

The players will know all that.

The players will know all that.

You know, the players who we want to know,

what are my guarantees?

I don't care about

the length of the contract.

I'm not about the big number.

What are my guarantees?

What am I getting those first three years?

That's my meat and potatoes outside of signing bonus.

Yep.

That's what matters.

Hey, when I put my name on this contract, watch out to check about looking at.

Okay.

And then over the day, like Ocho said, over the next three years, how much money am I actually going to get of that big gargantuan number?

Of that $1 billion

over the next three years, how much am I getting actually?

Okay, let's go.

Hey, listen.

Hey,

i mean i mean obviously you know when when you chat you see games scroll across the tick at the bottom of the screen you know you see five-year 280 million you know that 200 that 280 million you know

that is the crust to the pie

that crust to the pie joe

that ain't really the number Them first three years, that's all that matters.

I need to know how much that is.

They not letting you get to the back end to reach anywhere near no goddamn goddamn 280.

I don't care who you are.

Unless your contract like Deshaun's.

230.

Guaranteed.

Hey, don't they get the same agent Deshaun got?

Yep.

Hey, listen.

Moola Guetta.

I feel like it's going to get...

I product Joe at Ocho, his name is Mulagetta.

Moolah.

Moola Getta.

Yeah.

Mula Getha.

Moolah.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Hey, listen.

Man,

we can't go into Philly on a Thursday night without Michael, man.

Ain't no way.

Look, Jerry got to get this done, man.

He got to get this done.

I feel like it's going to get done.

But it's going to be in the last hour, guys.

It ain't going to get no cheaper.

But look, he got it.

He's going to spend it.

He's going to get no cheaper.

Brock Bauer was voted the 24th best player in the NFL, the number one tight end.

George Kittle was number 31.

Travis Kelsey was number 37.

Terry McBride was number 65.

Sam LaPorta was number 94.

Bowers rookie season, he had the most catches,

112, 1,194 receiving yards, and five touchdowns.

I think the first two are the most for a rookie, correct?

Because only two rookies have ever had over 1,000 yards receiving.

Mike Dicker had it and Kyle Pitts had it.

But I don't think either one of those had 1,194.

And I know neither one of those had, because he broke, I think he broke Puka Nakul's record.

And then Neighbors, I think Neighbors had 108 catches this year.

But the most catches for a rookie, Bowers, most receiving yards by rookie tight end, $1,194.

Ocho, Joe, do you think it's too soon to call Brock Bowers the best tight end in football?

Oh, he's so goddamn good, Unk Man.

Most of the time, there's a

waiting process.

He took the words out of her bathroom, Joe.

Yep.

And he went from Georgia,

came to the league, and they miss a beat.

He should have came out.

They should have let him come out as a freshman.

He was that good.

That made that man wait two extra years for what?

Nice.

Nice.

Yes.

Now he's up next.

Obviously, Travis Kelsey, George Kittle.

I mean, Laporta Hawkinson, but

he's different.

He's different.

He's different.

He is.

I got to go in here.

It's hard for me to give it to a player after one year,

but if he puts together, I'm not saying he needs 112.

I'm not saying he needs 1,200 receiving yards.

I'm not saying he needs 13, 14 touchdowns.

He just needs another year.

Of consistency.

Of the same thing.

But listen,

you know who his quarterback is, right

yes sir

oh uh uh you know his quarterback got an arm you know a quarterback is gonna feed it

you should and please

rock rock is gonna have 100 plus catches he's gonna have another another special he a thousand plus yards ain't no telling how many tds

Yeah, because I don't know if they got, they don't really have the wiry.

They don't have the one, they don't have the chase, they don't have the jetta, they don't have that guy caliber guy outside of him.

He is that in the Raiders' offense, so he's going to get the most targets, he's going to get the most opportunities.

But I looked at the kid as a freshman, I said, this kid can play in the NFL now.

He that good.

He was that good.

He just bided his time.

I mean, hey, I'm sure he enjoyed the college experience, but no, he legit.

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Let's listen to what Babel Brabel's response was.

There's a report today that Jalen Pope will have to have season head and shoulder surgery.

Can you add anything to that?

No,

I don't know, other than I'd like to find out where some of these come from.

You know, some of these rats around here, so we'll figure that out.

you see what hey now we see everybody uh who said that who said that

they don't just be making this stuff up i know y'all be trying to name your source name your source name your source jordan

nah they don't make that up so

owners head coaches general managers player personnel position coaches players.

That's how Adam Schefter stays in business.

That's how Seams stay in business.

The agents, that's how they get that information.

Y'all get mad.

Y'all get mad.

Y'all don't get mad at the people for telling them.

Y'all get mad at Schefter and Sean for reporting.

They always say, especially the fans, state your source.

Right.

State your source.

Well, who said it?

Well, duh, if they state a source, they would never be able to get information anymore.

No, you're done.

So just go ahead and turn your just go ahead and turn your pen and say, hey, hey, ESPN, I'm done.

I'm no longer in business of doing that.

You heard what he said.

So now, chat, ain't nothing wrong with it.

Now you heard what he said.

He would like to know who the radi is.

So somebody told a reporter, because the reporter stood up there point blank and asking about season ending showing.

He should know about.

The reporter should know about that.

Nothing.

The mere fact they'd be reporting now i'm not saying that some of but oh like when when chef did them be coming nine times out of ten ocho oh they got that from somewhere

they got that

yes

people around the league no people in the league they don't round no league they had around it they in it somebody talking

sources in the nfl

the league office

that's just the way

I was reading some comments about some of the stuff we talked about last night with the Shador.

I'm not going back on the Shador thing right now.

I'm just saying in general.

And some of the comments throughout today

are people on my timeline reacting to what we're saying and what E.D.

said, what Eric Dickerson said.

And people like, oh, that's impossible.

Why would the NFL care?

I mean,

they come up with all these different solutions.

And it goes back to me in people underestimating how powerful the NFL is in general, how they just see it as just a football game, and how they don't understand that the shield

is one that reminds people.

Let me say this again slowly.

The shield in the NFL is one that will remind people in any way, shape, form, or fashion.

Nothing

will be bigger than our program.

Nothing

will be bigger than our program.

People that they're so blind to it and don't understand the power that those individuals as a whole possess.

It's ridiculous.

Even when I was playing, huh?

Let me, let me, hey, Joe, let me tell you something, Joe.

Go ahead.

Even when I was playing, I understood the power that be of the shield.

So I understood, I know I can play a little bit,

Joe.

Yeah.

But not too good.

I knew I could play around a little bit.

Chat, y'all stay with me.

But I understood what lines not to cross

unknown i understood the game very early i understood my time in the nfl it won't be that long i have a small window of opportunity to have some fun to make some money but there's certain lines that cannot cross because at some point in the long run

i'm gonna have to cross that bridge again

Some of the stuff culling between the lines, Ocho.

Cullay in between the lines.

Hey, Joe, Joe, listen, Joe.

Let me tell you something.

How well I'm at it playing the game, huh?

And Joe, I can say the chat.

Stay with me real quick.

Some of the things I have

going on right now,

all these goddamn jobs and all these goddamn opportunities,

there's certain buttons that are being pushed behind closed doors that you can't see.

Joe, come on, Joe.

There's certain buttons being pushed behind closed doors.

Man, come on, man.

Don't make me start.

Hey,

ocho i i feel don't make me start hey hey hey hey i understand i understand man listen when hey it's it's i understand about the buttons being pushed behind closed doors there's people working for you and you don't even know it well you don't don't don't even know it yeah that's why you don't burn no wages

Yeah, that's what everybody talk about do this and do that and I'd have did this and I'd have did that.

Okay.

It's working.

You leave like you came.

you came with your dignity you leave all that yelling and screaming hey well nobody was harmed in the making of that movie

but at the end of the day

there's been speculation that polk was going to be cut or trade candidate with all 32 teams needing a set 53 man roster by forb eastern on august the 26th

uh

who would benefit from leaking the injury of a player more than the player himself who may not want to be leaved or traded.

Well,

you can't trade a player if he's cut.

I mean, if he's injured, you have to ask for an injury settlement.

So he's straight.

So

they can't trade him.

No, you can't cut an injury back.

You have to offer him an injury settlement.

I know you can't do it in basketball.

I ain't know how football works.

But we've seen players get injured.

I could have sworn I saw stuff where players have gotten injured, they get cut right away, especially in training camp.

I could have swore I saw that.

No?

They get a seven.

Well, at least the reports could say a settlement was received instead of player with cut.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah.

Hey, I have a question.

Is there a certain amount, a set amount for injury settlement?

I guess

however long it's going to, I mean,

that's something the agent would be, we

work out probably the length of time if it's going for the season.

You're like,

no, I want my money.

But maybe what, a million, two million?

It all depends.

I think he's like a second-year player, right?

He's a second-year player.

So his it made it was his 800,000 a million dollars right now.

They're like, okay, they probably they probably eat that old Joe.

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

It's when you get into the situation like a Christian Wilkins.

You're getting guys making $13,000, $15, $20,000.

Now it becomes a problem.

I have a question.

Joey, in basketball, Joe, they do what they call a buyout.

Okay, I'll give you 85%.

I'll give you 90% of your money.

They don't do that in football?

Hell no.

Hold on.

They cut you.

They say you don't buy your weight off.

Yeah,

they get you up out of there.

Unless you got, I mean, like, like Russ.

The Broncos cut Russ.

They say, okay, they gave Russ all his money.

I'm saying, but...

But remember, because the Old Joe, the Steelers only paid...

Yeah, but because, but no, not a lot of people have like that big guaranteed money.

Yeah, if you got guaranteed money, you don't care.

Russ had 38 38 million but 30 something 35 36 million coming from the broncos so it wasn't nothing to go to take the two million from the steelers i got 40 million i don't care what how how you how it's divided out i got it coming but a lot of guys ain't got that guaranteed money so

hmm

that's because you know

football a gladiator sport man yeah it's you know every play could be damn near a career ending play hey that's hey joe that's why you got to be built like this out there, Joe.

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