Nightcap Hour Part 2: Unc & Ocho are joined by Leonard Williams + Travis Hunter welcomes his first son

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Sir, how you guys doing?

Can y'all hear me?

Yeah.

We can hear you just fine.

Can you hear us?

Yes, sir.

I'm on my wife's computer, so I'm trying to figure out how to change the name on it right now.

L Dub, what's up?

Oh, you need to tell me you not Haley?

What's that?

You not Haley?

No, no, that ain't me.

That ain't me.

LW, what's good, boy?

I'm good.

How you doing?

Man, listen, man, life is good, man.

One foot in front of the other, man.

I got my head hat so I can see where I'm going.

But before we we start, before we get into football, I just want to know, do you got a nutritionist?

Oh, I don't have, I do have a nutritionist on the team that I use.

We're not using him or her no more.

We're not using her no more.

Listen, I'm a meal prep.

I'm the NFL nutritionist.

I've been appointed by the NFL for all the players, you know.

So I'm going to send you information.

And I'm going to be your meal.

I'm going to meal prep you meals for the next 17 weeks and for the playoffs.

And you, my second client.

So I got is you and kirby joseph and then i'm uh and 20 a week 20 a week that's all that's all i charge and so i'll be making sure prepared meet before every game i'm about to tell all the rookies about i mean i appreciate that i appreciate that thank you

literally uh

you get traded you go to seattle and it seems like in seattle you found a home i mean look it's not that you didn't play you didn't play bad and but it seems like you found a home in seattle can you tell us what's the biggest difference between Seattle and New York?

And I'm not talking about geographically, but I'm saying in the defenses,

was it something the way the coaches, the way you received the information?

Was it the way they gave the information?

Is it the defensive scheme?

What was different about the defense?

Man, honestly, I agree with you.

I feel like I found a home out here in Seattle.

I feel like there's a combination of things that made it feel different.

So the fan base was one of the big differences.

Just like the way they embrace me, the way they show up on game day, the way they support our team and stuff like that.

And then also just in terms of schematics and coaches, I feel like, you know, having AD who came from the Cowboys,

and then Coach Mike McDonald, I feel like they just kind of created the scheme where they allow me to like play with freedom and they allow me to be like a playmaker and use my athleticism.

And

they celebrate me for, you know, just being in the backfield.

And sometimes

like if if I'm see, if I see a play outside of the scheme, they allow me to like sometimes swim a block.

Go make a play.

Yeah, exactly.

Go make a play where,

you know, a lot of times throughout my career, I feel like I've was almost too coachable at times where,

you know, I was taken away from my playmaking ability where I was like trying to play a block the way the coaches wanted me to and stuff like that.

So it's so

combination of stuff.

It's so funny.

You just said that.

We just talked to Kirby Joseph.

And the one thing I asked him, obviously, they have a new defensive coordinator, right?

And I said, do you still have the freedom to have free will outside of the scheme that your coach has?

Will they still allow you to do that?

And he said, yes.

And the fact that you started everything out about your coaches allowing you to have the freedom to be able to make plays based on your football knowledge and what your eyes see instead of what it says on paper

is really, really important, especially for players like yourself, to be able to reach their maximum potential out there on Sundays.

And that's really dope.

That's really, really dope to hear.

Yeah, I agree.

I think it's important.

I mean, for me, it just made me feel like it brought like the excitement of football back for me a little bit too, which made me like once I started having fun, y'all played before, so you know how it is.

Like when you're out there having fun and you're able to play free and, you know, have free will and be celebrated for it.

It's like

the best out of you comes out.

And I feel like that's.

how it is here.

Let me ask you this.

When you're at the Giants and then you get traded, you're like damn has anybody ever been traded from the giants to the jets or jets to the dry giants i mean

it because it is so different jet fan i mean the jets fans and the giants fans they're so different the city react so different to each team

Yeah, I mean, like you said, even though we played in the same stadium, the fan base felt different.

The culture felt very different.

The Jets were kind of further out in Jersey.

Yeah.

Felt like we were like a New Jersey team, kind of.

And then the Giants being so close to the city made me feel like I was the actual New York team.

But it was very interesting.

I mean, luckily, I didn't have to move during that trade.

I was still able to stay in my.

But it was definitely weird when that same week I got traded, I ended up playing in the stadium.

And like, instead of going into one parking lot, I went to a different parking lot.

And instead of walking down that hall to go to one locker room, I just went to a different locker room.

So it was very strange.

Yeah, it was interesting.

Yeah.

How, how's the body holding up, man?

You're going into camp.

I mean, actually,

camp now ending preparing for week one.

How's the body holding up?

I mean, amazing, honestly.

I mean,

I have a coaching staff.

Our strength staff here at Seattle is the same strength staff I had at USC.

Okay.

That's dope.

Yes, it's really cool.

So they got to see me develop as like, you know, when I was a young player, so they know, they know what works for Leonard Williams.

Yeah, exactly.

And we all talk about how uh it looks like i'm like and it feels like i'm in the best shape of my life honestly that's dope i mean that says something i mean for a guy your size to be able to move and be as agile i mean because we saw i what did they say you're you're the largest guy to ever get a what you have a 90 yard return a return return you're the you're the heaviest guy in nfl history to return a an interception that far for a touchdown correct yeah that's correct yes sir so so so how did that so let me so take us through that take us through that play what what what was what were you supposed were you supposed to drop in coverage or did you see something you see his eyes and just like look i've been to make this play yeah that's one of uh mike mcdonald's uh genius plays right there actually where we it was designed for the d-tackles to drop out and i actually got a pick and practice uh earlier in camp that year so when that play was dialed up like every time it's dialed up i'm thinking i'm a play is coming my way and it just happened like It happened so fast, man.

Like, people were asking me, like, oh, like, what were you thinking when it happened?

And I was telling everybody it felt like it was like an outer body experience actually like i felt i was almost watching myself from like an aerial view of of the happening you know what i mean because you snagged it yeah i mean it wasn't like you ain't like you did i'm telling my nah bro you i mean like you played tight in at some point in time you caught the ball you played on the other side of the ball you had to hey come up from that was not a defensive title that means a lot man

i played tight in the high school but it wasn't like much it was like just uh every once in a while i went to a big high school, so we didn't have to play both sides that much.

Uh, but I'm an athlete, though, you know.

Hey, hey, you, are you, were you from LA?

Yeah, I was born in uh California, but I went to high school in Daytona Beach, Florida, so I was kind of back and forth

from California, Florida.

Most of my upbringing, that's live, that's live.

That's you got a different quarterback this year.

Sam, uh, Gino leaves, he goes to oak, uh goes to uh, the Las Vegas Raiders.

Incomes Sam Donald, who did an excellent job last year.

But you play with

Sam

with the Jets.

So you're very familiar with him.

What are the expectations?

You guys had a nice little end to the season last year.

I mean, so what's the expectation this year for Seattle?

I mean, I think the expectation is,

you know, as a defense, we want to be the best on the field.

We have high expectations for our offense this year, but like we compete with each other, even within the defensive room.

It's like the defensive line wants to be the best group on the defense.

The DBs want to be the best group on the defense and so on.

But I'm definitely excited about the way our offense is looking right now.

We got a new coordinator and we're running the ball great so far.

It's only been preseason, but it just looks like a new team with the way we're running the ball.

And then, like you said, I play with Sam Darnold

on the Jets.

And then I also play with him at USC for like one year.

Damn, you can't get away from him, huh?

Yeah, I know.

He keeps humble.

But like, just seeing what he did last year, I mean, you know, he even played against us really well when we played them last year against the Vikings.

Yeah.

And just seeing the way he's matured, you know, he's bounced around, played on a few teams, played in a few different systems.

And I think he's finally found his groove and matured into a good player.

Most definitely.

I mean, I'm excited for you guys too, especially from an offensive perspective.

Seeing what Sam Donald was able to do in Minnesota last year, obviously with Justin Jefferson and Addison and Hogginson.

But then also now you got JSN, you got Cooper Cup over there, Kenneth Walker obviously taking some of the pressure off him from a lot

to be able to flourish.

I think y'all gonna be fine.

Y'all gonna be fine.

So I'm excited for y'all.

Who y'all got week one?

We got the Niners.

Oh, yeah, y'all got the divisional match.

Divisional match

week one, baby.

Y'all got that.

Y'all got that.

Yeah, I know.

I'm excited.

The Niners, they hurt.

They don't know who they're going to throw the ball to.

Yeah, y'all good.

Y'all got that.

Yes, sir.

Let me ask you a question.

When you, when you, when you, Tim, what's your mindset?

What's your thought process?

Because, you know, you do you move up and down the line?

Because, you know, oh, the great, like a lot of the defensive players that you know, the Reggie Weiss, the Bruce Smith, the Aaron Donalds, those guys, the Johnny Randles, Warren Sapp, they moved up and down the line, and they're trying to turn the handle to the door and see which one opens the quickest, which one opened the easiest.

And that's where I'm going to stay.

So I might be, hey, I might have to be line up in a seven.

I might have to line up in a five.

I might get a three.

I might get, hey, I might get in the nose.

Whatever.

I'm just trying to find the weakest link because that's how it is on the Serengeti.

The old and the weak get taken advantage of.

That's what I'm looking to do.

I mean, you said it perfectly.

I mean, I never heard it described with the opening the door thing.

That's like, I'm going to have to take that back into the D-line room man.

But yeah, I mean, I think that's something that makes me a unique player.

Since coming out of college, I could play from the zero all the way out to like six, nine technique on the edge.

Like, and it showed up last year.

I was getting, you know, sacks at end.

I was getting sacks at three technique.

I prefer three technique, like playing.

You like to play the undertackle, huh?

Yeah, I like to play the three technique.

You like that shade?

He likes to be on that shade.

It's just less face, less stuff to look at.

Sometimes when I'm out there at the end, it's like they'll try to put a receiver out there to make him look like he's

making him look your tall, cracky.

Yeah, yeah, it's all that tricky stuff out there on the edge.

Sometimes when I'm on the three technique, I'm just, it's it's just mono go it's go i'm getting on my man right now as quick as possible uh but in certain situations like playing against the niners um it's a little less about finding the fish what we call it you know like the oh yeah hey hey you gotta land him

hey we got a fish over there yep we got the fish but against playing like the niners instead of finding the fish they actually like to line me up on trent because They say their offense is kind of ran around him sometimes.

So it's like

their run game and a lot of stuff like that tends to run towards uh Trent Williams.

So they like to put me on him to kind of like help shut down the run a little bit.

So it's, it works hand in hand like that.

What's it like?

Let me ask you, what's it like to get traded mid-season?

I mean, so they call you.

So were you home?

When you got the news that you were traded, were you home?

Were you at practice?

So, so where were you when you got the news that you were going to get traded?

Um, I was in the building.

Uh, it was on

yeah, it was on a Monday.

So I came in just doing my normal routine.

I was definitely hearing like conversations about like possible trade, you know, with my agent and just the way the season was going for the Giants.

You know, we were losing.

We were pretty much already out of the playoffs.

And then the GM like called me into his office.

So I kind of already expected what was coming.

And

the way he presented it to me was making it seem like I had like two teams to choose from that were like both trying to trade for me for around the same offer pretty much.

And at the time, like the Seahawks were like number one in the division.

I knew a pete carol a little bit and I just thought it was the best fit for me it was obviously a struggle like coming all the way to the west coast Pacific Northwest in the middle yeah that's a long way that's a long that's a yeah it was long and then I'm living in a hotel for like two weeks before I get situated in like a house and stuff like that so it's a lot but you know I even played good for those eight weeks that I was here.

And I remember like my wife and like coach and teammates even asking me like, you you know, how were you able to play good even in the middle of like moving and transitioning your life and stuff like that?

And for me, I told my wife and other people that like there was so much going on like out of my control that it made me like fully focused on what I could control.

Exactly.

I was fully dialed in on what I could control.

So it just like the way I showed up for work every day, the way I played and stuff like that just like went to another level because I was like, oh, like I put so much more emphasis and focus on like what I could control.

What are your goals this upcoming season from an individual standpoint?

Obviously, you know, team goals, you have those defensively, you have, obviously, you have team goals that you have as a unit.

But from an individual standpoint, what do you hope to accomplish this season outside of the main goal being Super Bowl?

I mean, as an individual, I think I just want to build on the season I had last year.

I felt like I was

short of some accolades that I worked for, and I feel like I want to, you know, be first ap all uh all pro and pro bowl this year and

you know uh maybe like 10 plus sacks like 15 plus tfls just and also feed the rest of my guys i feel like we have uh a great d line right now and i feel like at least four of us can have eight plus sacks this year

like is that what do you feel like the defensive tackles because you guys don't get the high sack totals aaron donalds is an anomaly a guy that plays the three technique can get 20 sacks.

That's crazy.

That's unheard of.

He was different.

But you guys don't get like the edges.

You know, the Miles Garrett and the Michael Parsons and the TJ Watts that's out there on the edge and playing in space, they're going to have 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 sacks.

Do you feel like you guys get the credit that you deserve?

I think the standard for D-Tackle definitely has changed in the last few years.

And I think Aaron Donald was a big part of that, obviously.

Him getting 10 plus sacks every year and

20 sacks, his defensive player of the year.

That was different for a defensive tackle.

I think if you were getting like six to eight sacks as a defensive tackle normally, that's like a good season.

That's a hell of a season.

Yeah, that's a good season for a D-tackle normally.

And I think nowadays,

you know, fans want to see 10 plus sacks from a defensive tackle for them to think that you had a good season.

And unfortunately, they see sacks as like one of the main stats, and they don't see like all the play-in, play-out plays that are.

The runs, the tackle for losses,

the holding up so the linebackers can make the plays.

I mean,

I don't like to do all that either.

I like to do that.

Well, I know what you told me you like to play the undertacker.

I already know you ain't tried to two gaps.

Yeah, yeah.

I like to play nothing, but I want to make the play for sure.

I love my linebackers, but like I said, we be competing in our room.

So I'm going to.

Hey,

first come, first serve, bro.

I'm trying to get

I got first track.

I'm closer to him than you are.

I heard you're into magic.

Oh, what you know about that?

No, I'm just, I've been, you know, did a little research.

Yeah, yeah.

So you.

Yeah, it's not like, it's not like pulling bunnies out of a hat, like card, not like that type of magic.

You know what I mean?

It's a card game,

kind of like similar to like Pokemon.

Okay.

Okay.

You collect cards and you can play it.

It's called like Magic the Gathering from like Wizards of the Coast.

The Gathering.

Yeah, Magic the Gathering.

And like Wizards of the Coast is the brand that

makes them.

And what's cool is they're based out here in Seattle, so they gave me like a tour of their facility and stuff like that.

And

we've been in communication about it.

So is that what you do in your downtime?

I mean, I do a lot of things in my downtime.

I feel like I'm pretty different from most football players.

I think I started playing football later in life.

Like, I didn't start playing football until I got to high school.

And I feel like because of that, I was able to kind of figure myself out as like a person a little bit.

I mean, I was young still, obviously, but I feel like I was able to like find other interests and hobbies and stuff like that outside of football.

So I like to go like spear fishing and like boating and traveling and stuff like that.

That's what I was about to ask you.

Being up there in Seattle, do you like to, do you like to go fishing?

Because, you know,

what's the market?

I went up there because you got to go to the market.

You go to Seattle, you got to go see them throw the fish and do all that.

Have you caught him?

Have you been able to catch it?

yeah of course i went up there like

a few weeks after i got traded when i finally got out of the hotel like me and my wife like okay now it's time to explore the city a little bit so we went

and like they all recognized me like right away so they were like big cat you got to come over here and like i was definitely nervous because like i feel like i got hands like you've seen the interception but yeah yeah catching a wet slippery fish yeah that fish yeah yeah i'm like but i but i caught it and it was it was a pretty cool tradition but yeah that's something i like to do uh during my off time is go fishing and stuff like that.

And I'm based down in Florida during the offseason, so it's perfect.

Wait, you're in Florida, yes, sir.

Where at?

For a lot of the and I'm right here.

I'm in, I'm right here in South West Ranches.

Let's go fishing, baby.

I free dive when I fish.

That's what I'm saying.

When I go spirit fishing, you be free diving, yeah.

Come on, yeah, man.

Look, I can hold my breath by fishing.

He ain't buying it.

He ain't buying it.

Hey, hey, Leonard, I can hold my breath like four minutes.

I can get in the spirit in the water like myself.

I'm a nomad.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, man,

when you get in the offseason, man, I got you.

We can take my boat.

I'll be taking my boat.

Where you at?

Where you at?

Huh?

Where you live?

I'm in Southwest Ranches and full out of there.

Yeah, that's nice.

Yeah, let's go, man.

Let's do it.

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

This man told me he got a boat and everything.

I do got it.

I got a yacht.

It ain't mine, but Mickey Erison let me use his yacht when I'm about to go DC.

Same thing, same thing.

You can't ain't nobody fishing off no yacht hey let me ask you this would you like would you would you would you go on a trip let's just say they say well they go out for they got to bring me back I couldn't stay out there for no two three months the deadliest catch you know they go out there to the barren sea and they

I might do it like a couple of days but they have to come get me I ain't gonna lie the way the boat be almost completely tilted over

I don't know.

You'd be sick.

Yeah, I'm pretty adventurous and I like to do a lot of crazy stuff my teammates judge me for sometimes, but that's one of those I don't I don't know about the deadliest cat you good you good with that say them alaska king crabs i wait till they break up i bring them wait till they bring them to the store i get them dead i'll buy them from the market i like

hey i like the i like the t-shirt you know that t-shirt

bigger than five yes sir that's my team from la baby

man litter thanks for joining us man stay healthy yes sir great a tremendous season last year hopefully even better season this year man thanks for uh dropping by and guess what when you get that uh when you get those double-digit sacks this year and make first team all-pro, come back and tell us about it.

Yes, sir.

I appreciate y'all having me, man.

Thanks for joining us, bro.

Appreciate you.

I'll see you on that boat.

I got you.

I got you.

Ocho, we got a little bad news.

Chiefs wide receiver Rashid Rice has accepted a six-game suspension for violating the NFL personal conduct policy.

In July, Rice was suspended, was sentenced to 30 days in jail and five years probation for his role in a multi-car crash in Dallas that left multiple people injured during the 2024 offseason.

Ocho, how much does this hurt the Chiefs start to the 2025?

It doesn't hurt the Chiefs at all.

It doesn't hurt the Chiefs at all, especially from an offensive perspective.

They have Patrick Mahomes at the helm.

They have Patrick Mahomes at the hill.

Helm, you look at situations similar to when Tyreek left.

That offense didn't miss a beat because the quarterback is that great.

Now, they still have Hollywood Brown.

So they'll be fine.

I'm missing somebody.

They still have Xavier Worthy.

And one thing about that offense is each game, you never know whose day it's going to be.

As great as Rashid Rice is, when he's out, Rasheed Rice is, when he's out there on the field, it's an awesome thing.

With him being absent for six games,

the Chiefs' offense is not going to miss a beat.

That's just how great that quarterback is.

Well, I think the thing is, is that you look at Rashid Rice's rookie season,

they won the championship.

And

he was only getting better before he got hurt last year.

Look at the numbers that he was putting up.

And plus, when Tyreek left, Travis Kelsey was at his apex.

The question is, can he still, can he summons it up again and give you those type of seasons?

We saw a dip in the production.

He had the fewest amount of catches, the fewest amount of yards that he's had in probably a decade.

So what we saw last year is not the Travis Kelsey that we're used to seeing.

Can he said he lost 25 pounds?

He got back.

Congratulations, Trab, on getting married.

It's going to be an unbelievable.

That's going to to be the spectacle.

That might be

Lady Die and Prince Charles.

That might be something.

I mean, I don't know the last time we've had a wedding that's, you know, that's going to be to the scale of what this is.

Given who he is, given who she is,

that's going to be something special.

But I do think it'll hurt Ocho.

Now, the question is, is Hollywood Brown all the way back?

Is Hollywood going to be Hollywood?

He's healthy.

He's healthy.

Xavier Worthy looked good.

He looked unbelievable.

And the Super Bowl.

Now, look, it's hard for me to really judge it on that, Ocho, because you're so far behind.

And they just like, hey, do what you want to do, bro.

Them empty calorie yards, they ain't doing nothing.

But

I did see as the season progressed, I saw Xavier Worthy get better and better and better.

Yeah.

And so I'm counting on him to build on that.

The question, again, the question,

what does Neff got?

What is Trav going to be able to give you?

Can he summons it up one more time and give you what?

Because he had a great, what was that?

The Texans, he had a game.

But

after that, that was not the Travis Kelsey we're used to seeing.

But also, you have to understand, from a defensive perspective, when you go into a game like that and you're playing the Chiefs, defensively, you make your adjustments based on trying to stop 87.

How do we stop the Chiefs offense?

Well, for one, you take away Patrick Mahomes, number one target, number one weapon.

That's Travis Kelsey.

So obviously, with teams eyeing on him a little bit more than others, now you need other players to step up to the plate and show that they can also be dominant at a position and hurt you as well.

Them moving Xavier Worthy around, putting him in different positions to make plays.

This year, you got Hollywood Brown coming back, acclimated into the system.

He's healthy this year, fast as hell.

Hell, they got a little mini 4x1 track team too over there now.

So they ain't no slouches.

So I think they're they're not going to miss a beat offensively.

When Rashid Rice does come back, that will make them that much better because it adds another weapon to Patrick Mahomes' arsenal.

I think the biggest thing is with them is that can they protect Mahomes?

Oh, the offensive line happened.

That was the problem last year,

especially in that Philly game, especially in that Philly game.

It was part of the problem throughout the season last year, and it happened in spurts.

Mahomes running for his life, but obviously, it came to a head when they played a defensive line like like them goddamn Eagles.

And boy, oh man, that was that was embarrassing.

I feel bad.

I feel bad for Pat.

It seemed like as soon as he got the ball, they were in his face.

Yeah, they were.

I mean, we saw this before in Tampa when they played Tampa in the Super Bowl in Tampa.

He didn't have time, and it doesn't matter.

We saw this with Tom Brady with the Giants.

We saw this with

Manning

against Seattle.

It doesn't matter who you are.

Okay, I'm against Bronco.

Yeah, yep.

I was at that game.

But

he accepted that.

They were looking to get the reports where they were looking for a whole season.

The NFL PA, like, nah, we're not going to, we can't drive with that.

But he says, okay, six games.

Let me go ahead and get this behind me so I can move forward.

Move forward with my life and this season.

So Rashid Rice has accepted a six-game suspension for violating the NFL personal conduct policy.

Yeah, Michael Parr said the Green Bay rumors were in full swing this morning with this picture surfaced of him at DFW.

Well, James later reports Michael was just seeking a second opinion on his back.

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The Cowboys had Parsons undergoing MRI on his back Sunday, and Coach Brian Schottenheimer said the results were pretty clean.

If Parsons going to continue to hold in until he receives a contract extension, he'll need the doctor to sign off his back tightness being too much to play through.

What you think of, Ocho?

I love the game, huh?

For the love of the game, Jerry can play his, then Mikey can play his.

It's all the game at the end of the day.

You know how it goes.

Oh, that's how you feel?

Well, shoot, this is how I feel.

My back hurts.

I got to get a second opinion.

So we can both play the same game.

And I don't think Micah ain't going to fold no time soon.

You know, if anything, honestly, if I was him, I wouldn't play week one.

I wouldn't play week one.

You're trying to gain some of that Emma Smith leverage.

Yeah.

So you go out there, you're playing the Eagles.

You need all hands on deck for one to be playing the defending Super Bowl champions, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

Your best player not playing.

Okay, Jerry, you got your ego.

You don't want to pay me?

Cool.

Let's see what you do without me.

And don't go out there week two and you play the Giants and you start a season 0-2.

Oh, oh,

oh, no.

Listen, to me, it adds a little pressure on Jerry.

I got to do something.

I got to do something.

You start out the whole 0-2, boy.

Listen, them fans over there, not that he cares, or the media or the pundits piling on top of the cowboys.

You're allowing your ego to get away.

And you, well,

I don't think winning is

winning is on the horizon.

It's not his first thought when it comes to him being the owner.

It's about lining the pockets and making as much as possible.

So

he ain't won in 30 years, so it probably won't, it probably won't hurt.

It won't hurt him until it hurts his pockets.

Yeah, but he's going to have to get a doctor to sign off.

So he'll get a doctor's note, say, hey, tell him my back type.

That's easy.

It's hard because a lot of daughters are like, oh, man, you got me putting my credibility on the line.

You got me putting my credibility on the line, man.

But Micah, so there's nothing to him going to Green Bay.

It's just the rumor circulating.

He was in the airport going to get a second opinion on his back.

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Although Hunter was held out of some training camp practices and the final preseason game because of injury, Jaguars James Gladstone says Hunter is now full speed on the practice field.

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We expect him to be who we know him to be, and that's somebody that impacts both sides of the football.

We can't wait to see that on Sundays and one Monday night this season.

Man, how did you guys get a Monday night game?

Who asked them for that?

How did they get a Monday night game?

Boy, Brian Tommy Jr., Trevor Lawrence, ATN?

Again, how did they get a Monday night game?

I just with all those guys you just named, how many games they win last year?

Think about that.

They got box office players that people want to see.

They're in Jacksonville.

Jacksonville.

Who?

Jacksonville.

The players.

People want to see.

Jacksonville.

Travis Hunter, box office.

Brian Tomman Jr., box office.

Yeah, we want to, I want to see that.

We want to see that.

We tune it in.

You want to see Papa Rod at the Cindy Opera House or you want to see him in Jacksonville?

You know what?

As long as he's singing, I'm paying for it.

There's a reason why there are memorable events.

The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show.

Michael, this at Wembley State.

There's a reason.

Talk to me venues matter right well talk to me let me tell you something venues matter but when certain people are gonna be there i'm paying for it regardless beyonce

hey check me out beyonce let's say at the hard rock at the hard rock stadium where the dolphins play yeah she's gonna sell it out well hella beyonce is a goddamn house of blues which is small and only only only six five thousand it's still gonna sell out yeah so when you have but uh trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr.

ain't Beyonce.

I know, but I'm trying to give you a little perspective.

I know, yeah.

Because if I feel like, if I feel like the way I look at it, this is what I look at.

And you tell me what you think.

If Beyonce goes to and performs at

the House of Blues, come on.

I'm going to feel that's more special because that's an intimate setting.

That's not what she normally performs at.

She normally performs at arenas, 80,000.

I'm just one of.

She performs somewhere at a 5,000.

Oh, that's intimate yeah oh i know beyonce oh hey man where you going man beyonce pulling the hot but how you get tickets don't worry about that yeah but see so what does that tell you so that means that tells you that it's an intimate setting monday night because of brian thomon jr and travis hunter and the world wants to see it i want to see it So the NFL understands.

I will watch him on Sunday.

How do we create these odds?

Yeah, I think it has more to do with Trav.

Travis.

Honestly, I think it has more to do with him potentially playing both ways.

Uh, because normally, the one thing they always assured was you had to play a Thursday night game.

Everybody had to play a Thursday night game or Thursday game, Thursday night, Thursday.

Cowboys play, uh, Cowboys normally play two, they normally play Thanksgiving and then they probably play the following Thursday.

Um, with that being said, uh, and don't you?

I'm anxious to see what he looks like on both sides.

Don't jump on our bandwagon either.

Who?

The Jaguars.

Oh, that's your team now?

No, I'm saying.

I'm saying

my receivers, my receivers.

Brian Tommy Jr.

and Travis Hunt, they're my people.

They're my people.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

And

we might win the AFC South.

So where Houston is going to go?

Who?

The Texans.

True, Area 29.

Oh, Joe, what's up?

Travis Hunter and his wife, Lena.

Hey, got some great news.

They're just announced, they're having a son.

Hey,

does fatherhood change your mentality on how you play the game and who you do it for?

A little bit, in a sense.

Obviously, once you have a child, you want to play.

And

especially when the baby's so young, it's kind of different.

When the baby that young, you know, you just obviously keep the main thing, the main thing and want to be able to provide you know for say a child but um my view in general on the game obviously with me having you know 374 kids it really never changed i just always kept the main thing the main thing and wanted to be graded my craft in general craft yeah yeah yeah but that's dope man did they did they have the baby or she pregnant She pregnant.

Okay, yeah, that's dope.

That's live.

That's live.

That's live.

Because I think the thing is, OJo for being like, hey, damn, I sure wish we could have had these these in the offseason.

It is what it is.

But I was very fortunate.

My girlfriend at the time, she was like, hey,

you got to go to work.

Handle that.

I got this.

Okay.

Simple.

Congratulations, Trav and Leanna and Liana.

That's dope.

New parents, married, new parents.

Put his mind at ease.

You know, hey, I think there's something to be said for a guy that's married

and get to come home.

If it's happy, you know, obviously, OJ married a girlfriend.

Manat, you bickering and going back and forth.

You don't want to come home.

Yeah, that's rough.

That's rough.

That's rough.

That's rough.

hold on they had the baby

did they have the baby or they have the baby

was she

oh they oh they oh they already had it oh man that's that's oh okay okay hey

oh so she was pregnant so i guess he was pregnant welcome to welcome the baby boy oh a baby boy Okay.

Yeah, I guess she was pregnant when she got married.

Oh, that's love.

Hey, hey, trav i know you're gonna see this boy hey listen holla at your boy baby oh i didn't know i didn't because a lot of you know a lot of a lot of women don't want don't want to be i don't want to be pregnant with no

wedding right right you know what i'm saying they they want they want their wedding dress to be they want that thing to be perfect they try to be pregnant but hey

congrat well congratulations on the birth of your first child travis and liana congratulations Hopefully it's a healthy baby boy.

Much success on the field and a happy home to you two guys.

And if you need, if you need, holla at your boy, you know, but I've been there about 37 times.

I got a nursery program, too.

You know, I got a nursery program for kids.

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Check out this video, Ocho.

Okay.

Okay,

Dang, Ray John aired that thing out.

Well, hey, listen, it looked good, but

I want to question.

Oh, I want to question the

level of competition that I'm seeing here on film.

Yeah, he ain't no, they talk about he's the top right flag football in the country.

Not throwing underhand.

I need to see the competition.

I need to see him against some better competition.

You know, them look like, you know, you know, Amazon drivers, you know, everybody, everybody taking a break.

They off work and they out there just playing flag

but you know ray john is an athlete he can you can he can play a little bit everything

ojo cracker bell logo yeah it's back to its original the cracker bell logo after a viral issue of the company being too woke yeah if crack uh uh

ocho

so if cracker bell go back to their old you know they had the guy on the on the barrel

in this in the i think he's leaning on the rocking chair right he was in in the rocking chair leaning on the barrel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So if Cracker Barrel's going back to their OG logo, what NFL team should go back to their OG logo?

Oh, that's a good one right there.

The Bengals.

Go back to the.

Y'all got the same logo.

They with me real quick, huh?

Oh, they had the Bengals.

They didn't have the strikes.

They had the Bengals written across the table.

Yeah, go back to that.

And obviously, especially with the Jerseys, with the Jerseys, go back to the League.

Remember the Leap and Tiger?

Yeah.

The The leap and tiger used to be the logo, obviously, where it went to the stripes, but I think the leap and tiger uniform, bringing those back would be really dope.

When I think about old,

well, I mean, most teams, obviously, they have alternative uniform, I mean, alternate uniform, which is they already have their old logo.

Now, I think about it, what else?

That's pretty much it.

I like the old Bengals uniform with the Leap and Tiger from back in the 80s and 90s.

Outside of that, back to this Cracker Barrel thing, I'm confused.

Why were people so upset about the logo?

Was it offensive or something?

Well, they changed it.

So, in other words, they just had Cracker Barre.

They had removed the man sitting in the rocking chair with his elbow on the drum,

excuse me, the barrel.

So,

I guess people that like Cracker Bell said, hey, leave that alone.

Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Who was that man harming?

Hold on.

So, people complaining about the logo when the food is still the same?

Have they ever had the mama's breakfast?

Have you ever had the mama's breakfast at Cracker Barrel or the pancakes?

I've had the pancakes.

I don't care nothing about it.

I don't care about no damn logo.

It's the food that they do.

Hey, you know, they do.

People so

man, people so finished.

And look, and don't try to look.

Don't try to prove no point.

Don't be like, you know, some companies want to prove a point.

And then, you know, you had taken that lost, the value had lost $143 million.

I had read, maybe even more.

Just go buy it.

Over a logo?

Yes, over a logo.

Damn.

Yeah, I listen.

Look,

people,

it's funny what people find

pride in or

don't want to let go of.

The same thing some people feel about these Confederate monuments.

Yes.

Put them back up.

Me, look, oh, oh, look, like, I give you a private example, like, like, I guess the Aunt Jemima, the Miss Butterworths and all that.

That was my girl.

That was my girl, man.

It tastes, I mean, I wouldn't.

I'm like, man, I ain't buying this syrup, man.

Look at Aunt Jemima.

I ain't look at it like that.

I mean, I ain't.

I ain't not one time I go in the store and say, I'm not buying no Miss Butterworth or I ain't buying no Aunt Jemima or all that other stuff because

that's just me, OJ.

I don't get too caught up in stuff like that.

But hey, obviously, some people do.

And to each their own, to each their own, they wanted to make a big deal out of it.

Because it wasn't going to stop me from going to Cracker Barrel.

If I'm hungry and I'm driving, obviously, I don't think there's any Cracker Barrel.

Are there any Cracker Barrels in Vegas, Jordan?

Nah, there ain't no Cracker Barrels in Vegas.

But I'm saying, let's just say, for the sake of argument, I can't remember.

I haven't driven more than an hour and probably,

oh my God, I don't know how long.

But if I, let's just say, for the sake of argument, I'm in Atlanta and I was driving somewhere and I wanted, and I got a taste for Cracker Barrel.

I will stop by whether

logo, the man in the rocket chair with his arm on a barrel or not.

Hey, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Listen, hey, I don't, I chat, I don't, I don't know if anybody in the chat obviously know I eat all the simpler, finer things in life.

Cracker barrel right here along with the biscuits and gravy, good.

I'm stopping period, man.

At mama's breakfast, two eggs scramble.

Damn what y'all say.

I don't know if it's the butter.

I don't know if it's the batter in the pancakes or whether it's the syrup that's so goddamn good.

Man, stop playing.

Look, hey, look, and stop going,

Man,

Cracker Barrel.

Bro, if you go to a place like that, you're not going to eat no tofu.

You're going to eat sausage, pancakes,

bacon.

You're going to eat waffles.

You're going to eat biscuits and gravy.

That's what you're going for.

Hold on, hold on.

Speaking of biscuits, and you probably don't do it.

I'm just saying what I do when I go to Cracker Barrel.

I, you know, the syrup is in the little container.

Tell them, take the syrup, pour it in, up, pour it in a little cup, tell them to warm the syrup up, and you dip the biscuits in the syrup.

You ever, you ain't never did that, huh?

I like biscuits and gravy.

I like uh, uh, man, there's something about the biscuits and gravy, man.

That

man, that bit that biscuits and syrup, biscuits dip, dip the biscuit in the syrup, man.

Before your meal come,

I like biscuits.

Yeah,

like biscuits.

Oh,

dad, I ain't been to to Cracker Brilliant in a minute.

I'm more of an IHOP person.

I haven't been to IHOP either.

I mean,

I've been going to, I've been, when I was in LA,

I would go to Denny's,

but I like IHOP.

Used to go to the IHOP right up off P Street.

They closed it down when I was coming up here.

I'm a breakfast person, though, Joe.

I like grits and eggs.

I like grits and eggs with crispy bacon.

I'm a grits and eggs.

I'm a grits and eggs.

I'm a grist and eggs type of person.

I got another place I got to take you to.

I told you about iCrave.

You know about their breakfast.

I told you about Smith and Webster, but I got to take you to Just Spoons.

Is that in Miami?

It's in Miami and for a lot of dale.

Just what you're talking about.

That's right, right up your alley.

Boy, just

that's right up my alley.

That's right up my alley.

Just spoons breakfast, huh?

Anything you want.

Anything you want.

Under the soul food umbrella.

And they give you so much food, man.

then one of this one of them restaurants that they don't they ain't stingy they're gonna give you what you're looking for and you're gonna walk out of that food

man nobody start grits no more man what you i i just i'm telling you

hold on okay wait did i say damn i i hate i got to come away to miami to get some grits down where you at right now

texas Okay, but listen, when you over there back on the west coast, were you at?

Yeah.

Ritz Cafe, huh?

I tell you.

Man, I'm not waiting in no damn line and have me standing outside that hotel.

No, no, no, no, no.

They know you coming.

I'm telling you, go to Gritz Cafe.

And you talk about grits and eggs and fish and catfish and

pancakes.

How you like your eggs?

Scramble, sunny side up, over medium, over easy.

How you like, yeah.

Oh, I get my two eggs scramble.

Scramble, scramble.

Yeah, and not too hard.

No, right in the middle.

Right.

I mean,

I mean, it all depends.

Sometimes I do over medium.

Sometimes I do a scramble.

Nah.

Sometimes I do sunny side.

I mean,

no sunny side.

I don't like it running.

I don't like it.

I can't do that.

That's, I mean, but normally if I get down, if I get a breakfast sandwich, so when you bite it, and that's the

nah, nah, nah.

Oh, oh, you, we're not going to go there, OJ.

We too.

It's too soon.

Too soon.

Next year, this time.

Next year, this time.

Give me it a year.

Need a year.

Need a year.

Need a year.

Just say it.

Just say it.

All right, Ocho.

Now it's time, chat.

It's time for one of your favorite segments.

It's time for Ocho's spoken word.

Oh, the spoken word.

Spoken word.

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Where's my hat at?

Baby!

Hey, what's my hat?

What's my hat?

Damn, I'm supposed to have my hat.

I'm supposed to have my hat, but hey, chat, y'all ready?

Chat, if y'all can't see me, just snap your fingers for me real quick.

Hey, where's that hat I bought in France?

You know where it's at?

Yeah, the one I had in France, because I'm going to do spoken word

okay all right don't worry about it i gotta get

i gotta get a character okay go ahead get a character ready

yep

let me know you're ready chat y'all ready chat

all right you ready on

i'm ready

a chair is still a chair

even when

There's no one sitting there.

Hold on,

I'm in my mode, baby.

I'm in my mode.

Don't bother.

Hold on.

Let me get my hat.

Okay.

Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, with spoken word of the night, Mr.

Lepe Ocho Cinco.

I got to start over.

Start over.

Take your time now.

Take your time.

A chair is still a chair,

even when there's no one sitting there.

But a chair is not a house.

And a house

is not a home.

When there's no one there to hold you at night, and no one there you can kiss.

Good night.

A room

will always be a room,

even when there's nothing there but gloom.

But a room is not a house, and a house is not a home.

But when the two of us are far apart,

and one of us has a broken heart.

Now and then I can call your name,

and suddenly your face appears.

But it's just a crazy game when it ends

in tears.

Le Pepe Pe Cinco.

That's it, ladies and gentlemen, with spoken word of the evening.

Thank you.

All right, all right.

Here it is.

Your favorite segment is Spello Cinco.

Let's go.

The first word,

this is the type of cheese that you spread on spaghetti or lasagna, is called parmesan.

Parmesan.

Oh, shoot.

Well, that's a good one, dude.

That's a good word to start off with because

I've never used parmesan before, but I know about cheese you know i know you got this kind of cheese and you got other kind of cheese but parmesan i'm gonna take a whiff p-a-r

m-e-s-e-a-n i might be wrong

you are p-a-r m-e-s-a-n parmesan

Hold on, let me lock in.

Let me lock.

Hey, lock in, lock in on your lock in.

It's kind of hard.

It's kind of hard for my mind, for mine,

doing spoken word and being locked in and focused.

Yeah, and be able to transfer it to go, yeah, yeah, because you think of, you think of things that go together, right?

And then you got to refocus and take that and get rid of that creative side and now just get to the side of okay.

Right.

Two different lanes, two whole, two totally different lanes.

So allow me to adjust.

Ocho, this is a large, thick-skinned, semi-aquatic African mammal with massive jaws and large tusk.

He's referred to in Africa as the river horse.

It's a hippopotamus.

Oh, that's a good one, too.

That's a good one.

Listen, this is a good one.

So hippopotamus.

H-I-O-B-O H-I-O-P-O-P-A-T-A-M-U-S.

H-I-P-P-O-P-O-T-A-M-U-S hippopotamus.

Wait, is that not what I just said?

That's not what you just said.

But this one is an easy one.

Okay.

This one, you got to get this one.

This is a predatory myriad pod invertebrate with a flattened, elongated body composed of many segments is called a centipede.

Oh, centipede.

Centipede.

Centipede.

This is a good one because I used to play the game centipede back in the 80s, long time ago.

I know you remember that game, Monk.

I do.

I remember everybody's age group in here, but Centipede.

C-E-N-T-I-P-E-D-E, centipede.

That is correct.

C-E-N-T-I-P-E.

Stop playing with me.

Centipede.

Stop playing.

This is what I do.

I'm telling you.

1987, 1988 Spelling Beat Champ, Charles Halley Paul.

You talking about Joe, let's go.

Demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective approach, indiscriminate or casual, promiscuous.

Oh, promiscuous.

Promiscuous.

Listen, I went to the prom before, and I know promiscuous starts with P-R-O-M.

Okay, I-S-C-O.

Oh, shit.

Promiscuous.

P-R-O-M-I

miss.

P-R-O-M-I-C-Q-S.

C-U-O-U-S.

Now, thank you.

What'd you say?

Spell it again.

P-R.

The last part.

P-R-Promiscuous.

P-R-O-M-I-C-Q-U-O-U-S.

You left the S out.

I said, I I said S.

P-R-O-M-I-S-C-U-O-U-S.

That's what I said.

Promiscuous.

Promiscuous.

We have to go back and check.

But come on.

Come on.

That's two.

I got two right.

Let's go, chat.

Let's go.

Let's go.

The last one is a person qualified to treat diseased or injured animals.

Veterinarian.

Wait, veterinarian.

Oh, that's what I wanted to be growing up.

I wanted to be a veterinarian.

I wanted to be a marine biologist.

Veterinarian.

Okay, here we we go.

Veterinarian.

V-E-T.

N-E,

R-I-A-N.

Veterinarian.

What did you just spell?

Veterinarian.

Spell it again.

Veterinarian.

V-E-T.

We're back there laughing, Ash.

George.

Oh.

Jordan said you spell Venetian, not in Vegas.

No, no, veterinarian.

You ready?

V.

yes e

n a r i a n veterinarian

v e t e r i n a r i a n veterinarian

damn

damn

all right last okay what Now it's time for dunk on unk.

Okay.

God damn.

Okay.

Okay.

That wasn't that bad.

That wasn't that bad.

All right, Ocho.

What do we got?

You ready?

Okay.

This is Lions Edition.

Yeah, Lions Edition.

Lions edition.

Yes.

Let me know you're ready.

I'm ready, Ocho.

All right, chat.

Please, no answers in the chat.

No answers in the chat, chat.

Please.

No answers in the chat.

No answers in the chat.

Here we go.

Where did the Detroit Lions play their first ever game?

Where did the Detroit Lions play their first ever game?

I was there.

I was there too.

So it should be an easy answer.

No.

I know they didn't play it at the Silver Dome.

This was because that wasn't even thought about being built.

Tiger Stadium.

Tiger Stadium.

That answer is incorrect.

The answer you were looking for is the University of Detroit Stadium.

The game was played on September 23rd, 1934.

I sat in the second row.

The Lions beat the New York Giants 9-0.

9-0.

No, I'd have never gotten that one.

Yeah, you're not going to get this one.

You could have gave me multiple choice.

I would have got that one.

You ain't going to get this one either.

Here we go.

Who was the first Lions player ever to win the NFC Deepest of Player of the Week Award?

Who was the first Lions player ever to win the NFC Defensive Player of the Week Award?

Ooh, we.

Oh, my goodness.

Pat Swillings.

Pat Swillings.

That's a good answer.

That's a good try, but it's not Pat Swillings.

The answer you were looking for was Michael Kofer.

Michael Kofer won the award in week eight in the 1984 season.

Wow.

Yes, yes, yes.

I was there for that too.

Now, this, this will be a little bit more updated for you, so you shouldn't get this one wrong.

I'm throwing you a bone here.

In 2003, jersey number three

was worn by whom?

I'm throwing you a bone here just to give you one to get you, to get you acclimated to getting one right john kitten i don't know that is absolutely wrong and the fact that you don't know this lets me know you don't know football the way i do the jersey number three in detroit was won by none other than oregon

joey harrington joey harrington joey harrington who were drafted third overall by the detroit lions in 2000 i can't believe i missed that one yeah you should have you should have known that one here we go i should have ojo damn i know i know how you feel i know how you feel the lions missed out on all of the first 37 super bowls during that span how many times did they appear in the nfc championship game

the first 37 the lions missed out on all the first 37 super bowls During that span, how many times did they appear in the NFC championship game?

And I'll help you out.

One, 1991, they lost the

yeah, 91.

Yeah, you are, you are correct.

1991 season, they lost 41-10 to the Washington.

They lost the Washington Reds commander.

They were the team, that team, but they're not the commanders, yes.

Okay.

Actually, they beat the Cowboys to advance to the NFL Campus.

I was there for that game.

Jersey number 37

was worn by Witch Detroit Lion during the 1955 season.

It should be easy.

He has a college award named after him.

It should be easy.

He has a college what?

Award named after him.

I'm throwing you a bone because

I want you to get more than one right.

I'm throwing you a bone.

Jersey number 37 was worn by which Detroit lion during the 1955 season.

And there is a collegiate award named after this individual.

Bronco Nagurski.

No, the answer you were looking for was Doak Walker.

Doke won the Heisman Trophy in 1948 out of Southern Methodist University.

S of you, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, you got one right now.

We tied again, Ocho.

I won.

What are you talking about?

I won.

Hey.

Hey.

Let me, I gotta say, we gotta pull the tape.

Come on, that don't start.

They don't start.

I gotta pull the tape.

I just want y'all to know.

I'm playing this one under protest.

Don't cheat me.

Don't

play another protest.

You can't cheat greatness.

You can't cheat.

The fact that I had to transition and go from spoken word, which was well thought out, well thought out, and then transition into spelling is very difficult.

Very, very difficult.

The last segment of the evening is time for Q and A.

Oh, man, I felt good tonight, boy.

No, I got to take a look now.

Kimberly Noward Jr., my question is, Ocho,

if the Bengals make it to the Super Bowl,

who would the NFC team be?

Who would the NFC team be?

They're playing against, and what's the score?

You know, that's a good question.

I think it's our time.

I think this year is our year.

And the team they would probably play would probably be the Eagles.

Would probably be the Eagles.

I think the Eagles are the strongest NFC team from top to bottom on both sides of the ball.

So that's a dream of mine.

I like that.

So Bengals, Eagles, Super Bowl, San Francisco, I'll see you there.

Then 2-1-2-1-0-0, Nightcap.

I know it's way too early, but who do you guys have going to the Super Bowl?

I just told.

Now, I know they just heard me say the Bengals and the Eagles are going to be in the Super Bowl.

I guess I could take one of my two teams.

I could take the Ravens or the Broncos.

The who?

Ravens or the Broncos?

They might be playing each other for the AFC championship game.

Now, you just heard me tell him who the AFC team was going to be in the Super Bowl.

That ain't happening.

That ain't happening.

That's not happening.

you know what hold on

we're gonna say that we're gonna make our picks uh uh uh

we'll make our picks on monday no wednesday next wednesday because the uh the game is next thursday so we're gonna make our picks next wednesday before the game

dr frank air bellamy hey fam onk do you think michael irving could be a guest one night and help defend my cowboys uh oh joe would you have been a referee because with all the energy and testosterone between you, Mike, somebody liable to pass out.

Uh, yes, uh, we can have Mike on.

Uh, Mike is a very good friend of mine.

Um, he's a he's a great guy.

Um, yeah, we get him on.

I will, we'll do that.

I will get him on one night.

OG underscore Thanos, who's under more pressure to reach the Super Bowl, Ravens or the Bills?

Which is heavier, a turn of bricks or a ton of feathers?

That's a good one.

They weigh the same,

they're both because now you got MVP winning quarterbacks.

Your team is back healthy.

You've upgraded.

You got Cook back.

You upgraded with Johnston at wide receiver.

Shakir is back.

Hey.

And Ravens, Ravens got no excuse.

The Ravens have absolutely no excuse.

Rock Surge.

Would you ever interview Richard Hart?

He's a billionaire that created four projects on blockchain, Hex, Pulse Chain, PulseX, and Incentive Token.

He also defeated the SEC recently.

I have no earthly idea who that is.

You know who that is?

I don't even know if my audience would know who he is, but I might need to do some research on him.

If he creating all them projects, maybe I can create me something, see how he did it.

Jay Breezy, do you think the Saints are tanking for Archie?

We have zero quarterback to stand behind and so many other missing pieces.

As a lifelong Saints fan, I'm hoping it doesn't take a decade to get a team going.

No, I don't think they're going to tank.

They're going with

Spencer Rattler.

Spencer Rattler.

They opened it up.

He and Shuck, they battled it out.

They feel more comfortable.

Kelly Moore feels very comfortable with Spencer Rattler at the helm.

We'll see how long he can keep him off.

I don't think he has a short leash.

I think

Kellen Moore understands that to play that position, you can't play it with someone looking over your shoulder.

So I expect him

to not

make a decision based on booze, based on what's being written in the paper, because he understands that's a very difficult position to play, and you still have

a young quarterback.

So

I don't think they're tanking for Archie Manning.

Well, yeah, Arch Manning.

I don't think they're tanking for him.

Bro, can y'all see if the guy can play?

Damn.

Y'all will let the man play?

Damn.

Let him play before we start talking about first among the overall pick.

Daryl Nickens, Uncle Nocho, I got my LLC going last week.

Plus, I'll be starting my own sports podcast inspired by you guys.

It will be bilingual.

Any advice?

Also, I got limited edition cognac three days ago.

Well, Daryl, thank you very much.

I really appreciate that.

Bilingual sports podcast, just be you.

Be authentic.

People want to hear authenticity.

They don't want to feel like it's watered down.

That's why they go direct to you.

So it's direct from you to the consumer.

And so it's not a

this or that that, well, he can't say that because they're they're going to get mad at him.

It's your platform.

You can say whatever you want.

So just be you.

That's the only thing you can be.

Nobody else can be Daryl.

Only you can.

How great can Chris Harry Jr., number one receiver from Matter Day and Jeremiah Smith, be together at Ohio State next year?

That's going to be nice, boy.

It's going to be nice.

I know.

Jeremiah Smith had an NFL body of the true freshman.

He's nice.

Now they have a nice little squad over there, boy.

Man, Chris Henry Jr., I saw Matter Day was on, they was on TV on ESPNO.

Yeah.

Didn't it be St.

Thomas Aquinas?

And Chris Henry Jr.

went off, boy.

Man, he went crazy out there, man.

Zachariah Harris said, oh, give Ocho one more word.

If he gets it wrong,

he eats the viral

egg lie what is that a what

i mean he acting like that's

naming this stuff i don't know nothing about man i it ain't nothing anyway it ain't nothing i won't eat so i'm sure that's right that's not even yeah we know that uh junior uh underscore cool cat what's up uncanocho just had to put my dog down earlier he was my baby boy uh what's some advice you have for during this grieving time bro i ain't got no advice bro that they hurt i ain't gonna lie to you you're never gonna to get over it.

You're just going to get better at dealing with it.

Man, that pain, boy.

Hey,

even though, and the thing is, is that, like,

once you make a decision to put the dog down and you realize that you're only keeping the dog alive for you and not for it because it's suffering, man, that hurt even worse, man.

Man, you talking about hurt.

Oh, there it is right there.

A balut egg is a fertilized duck egg embryo popular in the the Philippines and other parts of Southeast Asia that is boiled or steamed and eaten from a small shell from the shell.

The process involves sipping the savory broth around the developing chick before eating the yolk and the embryo with a

nah, yeah, Ocho.

That ain't nothing.

You ain't gonna do that.

That ain't nothing.

Can you see it?

Nah, I can't see it, but that ain't nothing.

All I heard is embryo and sucking.

I'm good.

I got it.

I'm good.

I'm nothing.

And that ain't nothing.

Listen,

I've been around the world and had

delicacies from all cultures, frog legs, chocolate covered ants.

I mean, what's that?

What's that?

That's nothing.

I thought it was some type of challenge.

That ain't nothing.

Yeah.

And I swallowed that whole.

I ain't sipping nothing.

Yeah, we.

Next year, this time, we have a very interesting conversation.

that concludes this episode of nightcap thank you guys for joining us i am your favorite unc Shannon sharp my partner and co-host Liberty City's own bingo's ring of fame honoree madden ratings adjuster the pro bowler the all pro he's chad ocho sinko johnson please make sure y'all hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us a favor go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you that listened tonight and all the other nights that you listened thank you for your support and your continued support make sure you check out my sheave by la portier we have it in stock if you can't find it in a city or state near you order it online we'll ship it directly to your door the best tasting premium vsup cognac on the market i also did a limited edition release of my brother it's a commemorative pack of him and i uh we're the first brothers in the pro football hall of fame and i want to do something to honor him and this was my way of honoring my brother so this is a limited edition.

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I am up.

He's Ocho.

We're off tomorrow, but we're back Friday.

Yeah, oh, hey.

Off tomorrow, back Friday.

Hold on, don't Texas and Ohio State play Friday?

No, I think

Georgia Tech.

Is it Georgia Tech in Colorado?

But we're back.

Yeah, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

We're back Friday.

So we're back Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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