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Speaker 33 Oh, Joe, Miami Hurricane, take down the number six fighting Irish in Notre Dame, 27-24. This is Miami's first win against the top 10 team since beating Notre Dame in 2017.

Speaker 33 Carson Beck, the guy they paid $4 million for, threw two touchdown passes. He was 20 of 30, 205 yards, two touchdowns, clean game, no interceptions.

Speaker 33 Irish may have found their quarterback, CJ Carr, but tonight's performance will leave

Speaker 33 Marcus Freeman with plenty of other questions to answer. Oh, Oh, yeah.
Carr had was 19 of 30, 221, two touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 33 The U was in control of this game. Ocho, I thought they were like, gonna put it away 24 to 14.
And the next thing you know, you turn around and the score is 24-24. But give the U credit.

Speaker 33 They put the drive together late in the ball game, got a field goal, and then they turned it over to the defense. And the defense did what they supposed to do.
Ocho, what did you like?

Speaker 33 What did you like about what you saw from the U?

Speaker 34 Listen, you look very good. Obviously,

Speaker 34 I was really worried about the quarterback position. How was Carson Beck going to look? How is his resurgence away from Georgia?

Speaker 34 How is he going to look in that University of Miami uniform and keeping us? No, excuse me, let me not say us, keeping University of Miami program where it needs to be, where Cam War left him.

Speaker 34 They were in good hands.

Speaker 34 So now, based on what I saw today, they're still in good hands. Small sample size, weather a little bit.

Speaker 34 I thought the European were going to run away with the game, Uncle, when it was 21-7. Yep.
But Mr.

Speaker 34 Freeman and Carr and that offense found a way to get themselves back in the game and make it a little bit more interesting.

Speaker 33 Very interesting game.

Speaker 34 It didn't have to be that close. But for some reason, coaches always have a way of

Speaker 34 calling a conservative game to allow the other team to get back in.

Speaker 33 Well, I think they play good though, Joe. In the third record towards the end, you don't want to do anything reckless.
I understand. Because here's the thing.
Think about 28-3.

Speaker 33 Kyle Shanahan called a game like he'd always been calling it. Now people say, why you ain't running the ball? Why you ain't getting conservative? You get conservative and lose.

Speaker 33 People are like, well, why you get conservative? You stay aggressive and you lose. People call you a bonehead.

Speaker 33 It's a very fine line that you have to walk. And if you do something and you turn the ball over, I called a game, but I didn't call no turnovers.
So you can't put that on me.

Speaker 33 You know, somebody misses a block. Somebody misses an assignment or something like that on your a drop pass on third down.
Now you're getting off the field.

Speaker 33 I've always felt it's easier to play from behind than it is with a lead because you throw caution to the wind when you're behind. What do I got to lose, Ocho? I'm already down.
I'm down 14 points.

Speaker 33 I'm down 17, 21 points. I don't have a damn thing to lose.
Everybody's already written me off. So I can throw caution to the wind.
I can run a triple reverse. I can on sidekick you.

Speaker 33 I can do whatever because. there is no expectation at that point in time because I'm down by double digit scores.

Speaker 33 And I understand to a certain extent, but I thought Miami tonight, I thought they made plays. I thought the one-hand touchdown grab, Ocho would have got 38 interception.

Speaker 33 And that's what you have to have. If you're going to get to where you want to go, you're going to have to have guys to make plays on both sides of the ball.
I love what Bain Jr.

Speaker 33 did at the defensive end. He thought he had it one time.
He got the ball away on second down. Bain said, Come here, I'm going to get you.
I'm going to get you again. And got him again.

Speaker 33 But as a quarterback, you know you can't take a sack in that situation. You got no timeouts.
And all you receivers are way downfield.

Speaker 33 So by the time you get them back, tig, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tig, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Listen.

Speaker 34 And also, as a quarterback, he's a young quarterback. Very good, too.
Carr is very good. He surprised me.
He surprised me tonight.

Speaker 34 You also have to know in that situation, the defensive ends, they got their ears peering back.

Speaker 33 Yeah, they're coming.

Speaker 34 Ears pinned back. They come.
They coming right away. So you got to do

Speaker 34 your two tackles some justice and being able to maneuver in that pocket right away, understanding that them boys coming straight upfield right away.

Speaker 34 other than that margin freeman and that not a dame team they're gonna be all right they are gonna be going to be all right university miami them boys look good i know i know right now outside tonight onk even with the rain going on boy good old time they don't look like the hurricanes of the early 2000s but they look good they got that level of talent yeah exactly but but they look good they did look good

Speaker 33 they look good yeah ain't no andre johnson running around there ain't no ain't no no no you know no Clinton Porterson, no Frank Gordon, no Willis McGehees, no Shockeys.

Speaker 33 Who else was on that team? When you look at that, Antrell Rowe, Ed Reed,

Speaker 33 John Taylor,

Speaker 33 William Bryant, and you do those two linebackers,

Speaker 33 Vilma.

Speaker 33 But I like what I saw. Miami head coach Mario Christobal said on Kane's win.
Come on, look around. I played in this rivalry.
Look at the way hard rock is rocking. Miami Hurricane Football.

Speaker 33 And he played, hey,

Speaker 33 they're right. I mean,

Speaker 33 they were rocking.

Speaker 33 You know, they had a lot of their former stars, their former great players there. That's always great to see.

Speaker 33 That's one of the, I like that tradition that a lot of these teams have, where they're great players, where they're great players, their former players come back, especially if they're able to.

Speaker 33 You see homecoming week when guys have bye weeks. You see them standing on the sideline at Ohio State.
You see them standing on the sideline in Michigan and Alabama and all that stuff.

Speaker 33 It was always great great to see that. I remember when I was, you know, when I was at Savannah State and the guys would come back, it made me feel good.

Speaker 33 I really never got an opportunity to get back, Ocho, because, you know, we during our bye week,

Speaker 33 I think I went to one homecoming, but for the most part, I didn't, you know, it wasn't a homecoming or there's playing an away game. But it's always great to see it.

Speaker 33 And as you said, Ocho, Miami Hurricane Football looked good. Carson Bank played really well, 20 of 30, 205, two touchdowns.
Clean game. He didn't turn it over.

Speaker 33 But there's still a lot of football to go.

Speaker 33 I don't know if it's Clemson on their schedule.

Speaker 33 Florida State, that's the ACC.

Speaker 34 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 34 It's been a very long time. Chat, everybody in the chat, it's been a very long time since we got two

Speaker 34 really good teams with a UM and Florida State meeting up. Now that's going to be, now that is going to be a goddamn game.

Speaker 34 Boy, what Florida State put on film yesterday and what UM put on film tonight, man, stop playing, man.

Speaker 34 And obviously, listen, you're only going to get better as the season goes on, especially from an offensive standpoint. Right.
Because the offense always starts a little slower. Yeah.

Speaker 34 They're a little behind the eighth ball as opposed to defense. Who, again, who would all they have to do is just read and react.
Once they get themselves into a rhythm, man, please.

Speaker 33 CJ Daniels didn't catch a touchdown pass last season at LSU, but he scored his first touchdown since 2023 with a one-handed grab in the ring. And, you know, I thought the

Speaker 33 ball security was fairly well. I mean, considering the inclement weather, it seemed like the turf gave a little bit.
You know, you're below sea level.

Speaker 33 So once things get saturated, the turf is going to give. If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, I think they had a black college football.
I think Howard played somebody on that in that same stadium yesterday.

Speaker 34 Played the illustrious, the one and the only.

Speaker 33 Didn't y'all get beat?

Speaker 34 Of all time. They played Fam You.

Speaker 33 Didn't y'all get beat? Huh? Didn't y'all get beat?

Speaker 34 It was 10 to 9.

Speaker 34 It was 10 to 9.

Speaker 33 So which team had 10? All I need to know who had 10.

Speaker 33 Who? Who had 10?

Speaker 34 Oh, Howard.

Speaker 33 Oh, so who had the nine?

Speaker 34 The greatest

Speaker 33 HBCU of all time, family.

Speaker 33 So they lost.

Speaker 34 Can I tell you something? Yes.

Speaker 33 Can I tell you? Yes, you can tell me something.

Speaker 34 Florida A ⁇ M Marching 100. They won the halftime show.
So technically, we

Speaker 33 want to see. I want to see them go

Speaker 33 the human jukebox.

Speaker 33 Southern? Yeah, bad.

Speaker 34 See, I can't even say nothing bad because I love Southern. I can't even say nothing bad.

Speaker 33 Hey, they showed out for us at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 They did. They showed up for us.

Speaker 34 I love Southern, especially what they did for us down there in New Orleans. I love you to death, but you know, my allegiance, my life.
If I cut myself right now, well, I bleed orange and green.

Speaker 33 You bleed, you bleed orange and brown, Oregon State Beavers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I bleed, I bleed.

Speaker 34 all right

Speaker 34 you have to understand remember how bad i was in high school coming out of high school no i'm finna see i'm finna see i'm finna google oh

Speaker 34 listen to me i was supposed to be at fam you i was supposed to be at fam you i'm telling you listen a young let me tell you something real quick a chat let me give you a small example right when i was in high school i wanted to be like a receiver that played for miami edison high school Y'all could Google this, Google this.

Speaker 34 I looked up to these boys.

Speaker 34 His name was Jaque nunley somebody i i don't know if i have anybody in the chat that's from miami you might remember jaqua nunley went to miami edison played receiver if i'm not mistaken i think he might have wore number three he went to famu

Speaker 34 me as a high me coming out of high school oh shoot i want to be like jaque nunley but i want to go to famu so that was part of my love for fam you right there outside of my grandma and my mama always having me at the classic every year as a little kid.

Speaker 34 I went to the Florida Classic Unks in 1984.

Speaker 34 My mama and my grandma went to Cookman.

Speaker 34 They went to Cookman. But I just, that orange and green, but they came out.

Speaker 34 They were margin on.

Speaker 34 I was like, oh, I got to go there.

Speaker 33 But they might be there.

Speaker 34 Well,

Speaker 34 I had to go to the only place I can get in. I had to go to the only place that would accept me.
I had to go to the only place that was willing to give me a one-for-one

Speaker 34 with no eligibility left.

Speaker 34 Hey, thank you to Dennis erickson who remembered me from the little camps when he was with the hurricanes

Speaker 33 that's that's why he gave me a shot well you could after you got after you went to samo you could have went to fam you

Speaker 33 huh after you went to samo you could have went back to fam you but i was i was already on the i was already on the west coast i didn't want to navigate and come all the way back here because i had to get out of florida you know to really get to modestly exactly that's why it worked out where you wasn't supposed to go to fam you because you still been in miami and you go home to Fam You.

Speaker 34 But listen, the funny thing about it is when I get some time, right now I have like, I got like 273 jobs. Yes.
When the football season ends, I'm enrolling myself back in school at Fam U to

Speaker 34 finish everything and get my degree.

Speaker 34 Uncle I ain't even got my degree yet. I just got a whole bunch of jobs with no degree.

Speaker 34 So I'm looking to get my master's.

Speaker 33 How close are you to getting your degree?

Speaker 34 Hey, Unc Boy, listen, don't let me tell you. Don't let let me lie to you

Speaker 33 so you father so in other words you spent two or a couple of years in college and you further away from getting a degree than you when when you went but hey hey listen god is good but you want to take online classes take online classes i'm i'm going to school now your big rusted ass ain't gonna be sitting up in no classroom who not fam you tallahassee right down the street i know what fam you is but i'm saying but listen i would have the time to go to class and get that hbcu experience because once football season ends

Speaker 34 all the jobs I'm doing, it comes down to

Speaker 34 a halt a little bit. And I got a little bit of room to maneuver.
So I want that experience.

Speaker 34 And then also, not only am I going to enroll and go back to school, I'm also going to enjoy the band because you know how much I love the band.

Speaker 34 You know, I play saxophone, I can play drum, I play tuba. And then Shelby Chipman.
Shelby Chipman, who's the band, the band director at Famu, boom, ready.

Speaker 34 Now I can, I can probably, probably see if I can, I can try and beat a drum major or something.

Speaker 34 Okay.

Speaker 34 yeah i'm i'm listening i'm taking it my second half this is my second half of life huh i got to do something with it i got a small window opportunity ain't no telling when i'm going ain't no telling yeah i'm on the other side of the mountain i feel once you hit your fit once you're over your 50s you're on the other side of the mountain so i'm going downhill now so i'm trying to get everything out the way and check everything off my bucket list it all depends on how much you did coming up on the other side of the mountain wait but it will determine how how how how long it's going to take you to get down on the other side of the mountain that's a good question

Speaker 34 I don't mean to be, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't mean to sound ignorant. Yeah.
But I've been out of school so long. Yes.

Speaker 34 How the hell do I find out how many more credits I need for one to get a diploma to graduate?

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 33 you'll have to get your

Speaker 33 thing from Oregon State.

Speaker 34 Transcripts? Yes.

Speaker 33 Get your transcripts. Yeah.

Speaker 34 And they still got all that? Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 33 They still got it. Okay.

Speaker 34 Okay. You know, one when you're...

Speaker 33 Let's hope you got some credits.

Speaker 34 I know I got something.

Speaker 33 I don't know, Ocho, because

Speaker 33 I think you measured in eligibility.

Speaker 33 I don't think you was trying to, I don't think you was trying to get no degree. I think you were just trying to stay eligible.

Speaker 34 Hey, that's it. I probably was.
I probably was.

Speaker 34 Listen, the funny thing about it is I'm one of the smartest, sharpest pupils in the classroom. I just had a problem not wanting to go to class.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I think the thing is, do you have a problem now, Ocho, is that you being being your age and you, your mind turning your mind off about those jobs that you got. Right.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 33 So now because you got to focus, I mean, I don't know if like you said, you want to go to class to sit in that classroom and you sitting there, because I remember when I went back at Ocho, I was a 20.

Speaker 33 I was 22. And I'm sitting in the classroom and I'm like,

Speaker 33 I got more money than everybody in here. Make more money than the teacher.

Speaker 33 I say, man, I got to get up out of here. I said, ain't no way.
There's no way, Ocho, I could have waited.

Speaker 35 And i'm always impressed by guys that do it that wait three four five years and then go back to school right now if you're gonna do it online away okay that's fine but to go sit in those classrooms i see i couldn't do it you see why you can't do it you understand why you can't do it hello it is ryan and we could all use an extra bright spot in our day couldn't we just to make up for things like sitting in traffic doing the dishes counting your steps you know all the mundane stuff that is why i'm such a big fan of chumba casino chumba casino has all your favorite social casino style games that you can play for free anytime, anywhere with daily bonuses.

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Speaker 34 Dunk, you had that experience. You've been to HBCU.

Speaker 33 I did. I have.
I did.

Speaker 34 I've always wanted my dream was to go to Florida A ⁇ M. That was my dream.

Speaker 34 I never got to relive that, you know? So I had the cars I was dealt, I did the best I could with them.

Speaker 34 but now i have the opportunity you know what i can finish off that childhood dream no matter how old i am you got to understand but going to class i think on i mean going to class actually going to school if i'm not mistaken a class ain't nothing but an hour long i see

Speaker 33 it all depends i mean it all depends we were on the quarter system ocho so you're right we only went to a class for like 50 minutes but it was five days a week if you're on the semester system you might only have to go to class once to twice a week So it all depends.

Speaker 33 And then, you know, you might have class, you might have labs. I mean, it's been 30 plus years.
I mean, I graduated in 91. So

Speaker 33 Laura,

Speaker 33 I couldn't even tell you. I just know how my attention span is.
Is that to be able to turn, yeah.

Speaker 33 Look at Ash laughing. I said, man, me and meetings.
Me and meetings don't get along. Me and the meetings don't get along, man.

Speaker 34 See, that's, that's, that's the difference. The difference with me, you have to understand, I can sit there and you, you'll be like, man, what you doing?

Speaker 34 I can sit there and play Madden for nine hours straight in one chair and not move. Not move.
I can play FIFA for eight, nine hours straight.

Speaker 33 I can stream

Speaker 34 for seven, six hours straight without moving. So imagine me going to school and being excited because it's an experience I never got to do before.

Speaker 33 What about the class? What about the curriculum? Are you going to be excited about every class that you take?

Speaker 34 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Because I understand what the end goal is. In order to get to the end goal, I got to put the work in.

Speaker 34 They ain't finna just hand me no damn diploma.

Speaker 34 I'm trying to walk across the stage throwing them fangs. What you talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 33 That's the best part about it, to walk across the stage and have your family scream your name and everything like that. Family?

Speaker 34 Man, it ain't. Boy, y'all is my family.
My mama gone, my grandma gone.

Speaker 33 Oh, but I'm saying, you got Johnson. You got the kids.
I mean, the kids going to be there. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Okay, listen, gonna be the Nightcap family. It's gonna be you and Ash and Jordan and everybody else

Speaker 33 in the background. I show up.

Speaker 34 All my kids.

Speaker 33 You know. Let me know how many of you graduate class.
I'm gonna come where they get to Johnson so I can be a little late.

Speaker 33 Listen, I'm going to come.

Speaker 34 You know how they do the new graduation?

Speaker 33 I'm in the down middle.

Speaker 34 A, B, C. Hey, what?

Speaker 34 Shoot. Man,

Speaker 34 my daughter's done graduated, man. My daughter done graduated from Prairie View AM, man.
Yeah. And I ain't graduated yet.
How they done beat me? My oldest daughter done graduated.

Speaker 34 My son done graduated from Arizona State. I'm the one with no department.
My kids doing better than me.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 But that's what you want. You want your kids to do better than you.
That's the whole purpose of why you did what you did. So they wouldn't have to go through, so they wouldn't have the struggle.

Speaker 33 Now, look, I don't want, I don't, I didn't want to absorb all my kids from struggle because sometimes people, I don't want my, no, no, no, no, you want your kids to struggle somewhat because you want them to understand life is not a bed of roses.

Speaker 33 So you want some struggle, but you don't want them to have to go through what you

Speaker 33 went through when basically your entire life was a struggle. But some struggle for a kid

Speaker 33 build calluses and help and help them

Speaker 33 navigate this thing called life.

Speaker 33 Because at some point in time, there will be a struggle.

Speaker 33 There will be some hardship. There will be some adversity.
And you don't want them to have such a smooth ride that

Speaker 33 they don't know how to handle or navigate

Speaker 33 that obstacle or that roadblock. that's been placed in front of them.
But yeah, you want your kids,

Speaker 33 you did what you had to do to make sure you put your kids in a better situation than what you came up in.

Speaker 34 And this is the funny thing about it.

Speaker 34 And one thing I won't do up here and get up there, Panama, like the reason for my kids' success and the reason they're doing so well in life at their age now, at their big age right now, is because of me.

Speaker 34 Because they're, oh, wait, oh, it's not. Oh, uncle, it's not.
Those I have kids from. Yeah.

Speaker 34 did a hell of a job and they still doing a hell of a job that's why that's why i can't wait and this goes for everyone and they they'll probably see this they probably not reading the chat but when i win this Powerball, right?

Speaker 34 You laughing? I'm not even playing. I'm finna win the Powerball, right?

Speaker 33 You gonna win that 1.1 billion?

Speaker 34 Yeah, yeah. I'm finna split it in three halves.
Half going to those I have kids from for a job where I'm motherfucking done.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 34 One half going to Nightcap, because we're going to do some wild stuff. Ain't never been done.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 33 Look, I'm skydive. I'm good.
I'm going to let you do that. I'm going to be on the ground.
Feel me. Listen.

Speaker 34 And the other half going to the Nightcap followers. See, the subscribers.
subscribers, yeah. So, if 1.8, whatever it is, we're going to break down a huge portion of all of them for always supporting.

Speaker 33 Right.

Speaker 34 That's how I know God gonna bless me because you know I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do with the money. I'm gonna do good, yeah, giving back.

Speaker 33 Well, we gotta get, we gotta give, you gotta give a percent to the uh, the church. We gotta find some churches that's doing the right thing, that's helping people in the community.

Speaker 33 That you gotta, you gotta tithe.

Speaker 34 Okay, oh, well, we're gonna start with new birth. We're gonna start with new birthdays.

Speaker 33 I grew up at new birth.

Speaker 34 Remember, I told you I grew up at Newbirth.

Speaker 33 Hold on. You talking about New Birth in Lathonia?

Speaker 34 I'm talking about New Birth in Opalacum.

Speaker 33 Oh, okay. I thought you were on 135th.

Speaker 34 My bad. Pastor.
Hey, Reverend, Reverend Victor Curry. Okay.

Speaker 34 Yeah, come on now.

Speaker 33 Talk to him. I thought you talked about New Birth in

Speaker 33 Latonia.

Speaker 33 Yes. Another one? Yes.
Where at? In Atlanta.

Speaker 33 I think it's in Lathonia.

Speaker 33 They got a congregation. I think they got a congregation about 20,000.

Speaker 33 What?

Speaker 34 A what?

Speaker 33 Yeah, about 20,000. i think it's about that big a church anybody go anybody who who who uh who go to new birth in this chat hold on

Speaker 33 oh a church with 20 000 people oh yeah that's like a college stadium i mean a small college stadium uh i i think i think pastor jamal bryant is the pastor now uh oh

Speaker 33 I think yeah,

Speaker 33 he took over Bishop Eddie Long, who passed away. I think he had cancer some years ago.
I think Jamal Bryant is the head head pastor now, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 33 I think, chat, don't quote me, but I think he is the pastor at Newbirth.

Speaker 34 God, hey, a 20,000 congregation.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 33 What do you call him?

Speaker 33 Creflodala, I think his

Speaker 33 first Christian something, Joel Osteen. I mean, yeah, they got a lot of the, I mean, they have two services, Ocho.
Yeah, they

Speaker 33 call mega churches.

Speaker 34 Joe Osteen in Atlanta.

Speaker 33 In Houston.

Speaker 34 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 33 Yeah, but these mega churches yeah yeah yeah it it's not the churches that you and i grew up that we were hoping to have a hundred people in there or something like that you know what i'm saying right right and you know fourth sunday or pastor's anniversary church anniversary or something like that you might get an overflow crowd but yeah man these churches now oh yo they

Speaker 33 it's it's they you know look i i you know i i read my bible i i read uh uh uh

Speaker 33 this literature i get these these little pamphlets man i just i just don't believe in the prosperity aspect of it i don't i don't i don't believe in church members suffering while the pastor's living great.

Speaker 33 I don't believe in that prosperity. I don't.
I understand you tithe, you give what you can, but when you start telling me I must do this,

Speaker 33 just count me. I'm just going to go in.

Speaker 33 I do what I might not necessarily tithe to the church every month, but I give I do

Speaker 33 this charity, that charity. I make sure I do I do what I can, what I feel out of the goodness of my heart.

Speaker 33 I just don't tell people about it because because I don't think that's something you should advertise. But I'm proud of you.
I hope you do go back in.

Speaker 33 The life church in Oklahoma has 85,000 members.

Speaker 34 Man, come on, come on.

Speaker 33 Weekly attendance. Weekly attendance.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 how many?

Speaker 33 Wait, 8,500? 85,000?

Speaker 33 Weekly attendees.

Speaker 34 Because some churches, some churches, you have two services on Sunday, and then you might have another service or a couple of services during the week so that's where huh go ahead how do you get that many people 85 000 people that's more people that the that that pay core stadium the bangles is fitting in the stadium what are we talking about

Speaker 33 baby hey you you talk about the bible bell ocho

Speaker 33 You know, you know, in the South, people believe in that Bible. They look, that's why they look down on certain certain aspects of

Speaker 33 sexuality and things like that.

Speaker 33 They frown upon that. But, you know, look,

Speaker 33 we don't need to get in that, but hey.

Speaker 33 Joel Osteen has 45,000 weekly. Joel Loste has 45,000 members,

Speaker 33 weekly attendees. Creflo Dollar, he has a big, what's his church name? Faith Chris Chris something.

Speaker 33 I need a church name.

Speaker 33 Put Creflo Dollar. Type that in there.

Speaker 34 Hey, one thing thing about it, I love the word.

Speaker 33 I love C-R-E-F-Lo.

Speaker 33 You heard me? 15th.

Speaker 34 You heard me?

Speaker 34 I say, I love some of these, some of these churches, some of the things I'm hearing about them. Yeah.
Huge congregations. But I go to church for two things.
I go to church for two things.

Speaker 33 I go to hear that word. Yes.

Speaker 34 They got to hear the choir. Yeah, I don't want, I want that old traditional, good gospel.

Speaker 34 That old,

Speaker 34 hey,

Speaker 34 man, listen. What a friend we have in Jesus.

Speaker 33 You hear me? Yeah.

Speaker 34 Hey, his eye is on the sparrow.

Speaker 33 I need that old school traditional gospel.

Speaker 34 Like I'm listening to Reverend James Cleveland. Like that kind of

Speaker 33 the Mississippi Mass Choir. The Mighty Clouds of Joy.

Speaker 34 Yeah, now we now we talking.

Speaker 33 Shirley Caesar.

Speaker 34 Come on now.

Speaker 34 Hey, hey, young. I'm going to take you back real quick.
The Can Spirituals. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Man, stop playing. That's the kind of gospel I'm looking for.
Now, I don't know if I can find that in the kind of churches we have today.

Speaker 33 Yeah. I mean, that was that was that.
All I want to do is when they sing before the prayer and after the prayer, when they start singing, we had a lady that would come to our church.

Speaker 33 She wasn't a member. I'll never forget her name was Miss Margie Bird.

Speaker 33 Man, that lady could sing.

Speaker 33 Hey, Chad, if you're from Glenville, Reedsville, or from the surrounding kind of classy, you know who Miss Margie Bird was. Lord, that woman had a voice.

Speaker 33 Boy, ain't nothing like you see that woman walk in.

Speaker 33 didn't fail, Miss Margie. Miss, you want to do a solo? Lord, that woman get up there, Lord.

Speaker 34 Hey, listen, I had that.

Speaker 33 Oh, but you got Miss Maul, get on that piano?

Speaker 33 Uh-huh.

Speaker 34 Hey, I had the opportunity, obviously, growing up with being able to see. I'm uh, Miss Mosie Burks.

Speaker 33 I don't know who you know, I don't know who that is.

Speaker 34 Listen, Miss CB Mads Choir, she's led many, she's many of,

Speaker 34 um,

Speaker 34 oh, but you got me about to tear up god damn it hold on let me get some tissue

Speaker 33 oh those those the days man

Speaker 33 look

Speaker 33 those were the days chat i remember those days being a little boy my feet couldn't even touch the floor and just sitting there and and and and you know the old man prayer they have it on them or them rib socks with those stacy adams shine to the gill

Speaker 33 uh

Speaker 33 We miss those days. I miss them.

Speaker 33 Hey. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Hey, boy, we could talk about them old days, but you got me tearing up, boy. God leave, boy.

Speaker 33 Those days, Ocho. Those were the days.
Hey.

Speaker 34 I had the opportunity. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, chat. Excuse me for that.
I had the opportunity of seeing Mosie Burks,

Speaker 34 who led the Mississippi Mass Choir many times. And in chat, you might know the song, you definitely gonna know this song.
One of her favorites. This morning when I rose

Speaker 34 this morning when i rose and man had no doubt man uh chat if if you don't know

Speaker 33 we got to find you know what ocho we got to find a a a a gospel concert we'll have to we'll have to step up in there come on now come on now you know i have you i have you a couple of suits that i had made you know what i'm saying oh

Speaker 33 i ain't gonna be able to use them in 2025 but you know i you know what i'm saying but you know i got them and so just in case you know they wide you know i'm saying they wide leg oh cho you know know,

Speaker 34 yeah, and that's sharp now. That's sharp, man.
That's pretty sharp, man.

Speaker 33 Peak lapels, yeah, bad look here.

Speaker 33 So clean, fly light on me, I cut his throat. Yeah,

Speaker 34 oh man, I like it. I like it.
Oh, man, I just matter of fact,

Speaker 34 I just every time I talk about gospel, I hear something about gospel, we get to talk about the church.

Speaker 34 Or you tell me anything when it comes to dogs or animals, I get to get to getting emotional for no reason at all. Man, I tweeted something earlier today.

Speaker 34 Oh, that goddamn Kiki Wyatt,

Speaker 34 I've retweeted, like, I didn't tweet that must a day. So if it's still on my timeline right now, and she was singing, and I just put the goat at the top of it, and I listened to it.

Speaker 34 Man, that lady there, man, something's got a voice, huh? And she got a voice, boy. She's so ranky.
She, hey, she, she was in there. She was playing.
She was in there playing.

Speaker 34 Like, this is what I do.

Speaker 33 Let's transition back to Miami Hurricanes 2025 schedule Ocho they beat no today in 2724 next week they're at home against Bethune Cookman then

Speaker 33 then they're at home against South Florida then they're at home against Florida then October 4th they're on the road against Florida State home against Louisville home against Stanford at SMU home against Syracuse home against NC State on the road against Virginia Tech on the road against Pittsburgh.

Speaker 33 Hold on, hold on, hold on, just a second. Something is at a neutral site.
What game? Game Flavor?

Speaker 34 FSU last, right?

Speaker 33 No, no, no, no. FSU is October 4th.

Speaker 34 Hey, they got a good chance to run the table.

Speaker 33 But you see they got the answer.

Speaker 33 I don't really see it either. Oh, yeah, they got a chance.
You know, they got South Florida, Florida, Florida State.

Speaker 33 Most of the tough, the Florida State game ain't going to be easy now.

Speaker 34 Oh, no.

Speaker 34 Not based on what I saw yesterday, especially from that Florida, that Florida State defense. Yep,

Speaker 34 they look good, boy.

Speaker 33 Oh, Joe, the number 13 South Carolina Gamecocks beat Vartec 24 to 11. The Gamecocks opened the season with a win over its coach Shane Beamers, Alma Mater.

Speaker 33 His dad coached there for almost 30 days, 30 years.

Speaker 33 Frank

Speaker 33 is Frank Beamer, right? Isn't that his dad's name? Right.

Speaker 33 Carolina looked good. Carolina looked really good.
That big receiver they got,

Speaker 33 Nick.

Speaker 33 What's his name? Hold on.

Speaker 33 Man, they got a receiver, Ocho, like 6'4 by 230. He can fly.

Speaker 34 Carolina.

Speaker 33 South Carolina. Yeah, man.

Speaker 33 He run 10, 10, 100 meters, 20, 20 in the 200 meters.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Oh, man. He looked good.
He caught a bomb. Caught a bomb.
Oh, here it is right here.

Speaker 33 But I like Carolina. I like the way they got out the the field.
I like them uniforms. The quarterback, Lenora Sellers.

Speaker 34 Sellers, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 33 Yeah. He played he played well today.
And

Speaker 33 he has that ability. He's a true dual threat.
He has a nice, lively arm.

Speaker 33 Obviously, he can run out, can get outside, get out the pocket and make plays.

Speaker 33 I thought they did a great job of, and Mike Schuler's calling the plays. Mike Schuler called plays in the NFL.
And so

Speaker 33 Sellers was 12 of 19, 209, one touchdown, clean game interception, no interceptions.

Speaker 33 They had 37 carries for a buck 19, one touchdown.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 the defense played well. Carolina defense played well.
Very, very well. A safety and three field goals.
You can live with that. You can live with that.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 I like those uniforms. Carolina got some nice uniforms, yeah.

Speaker 33 I like the all-black.

Speaker 33 I like that all-black.

Speaker 34 All right. It's all right.

Speaker 34 You ain't like Virginia tech all orange no

Speaker 33 yeah

Speaker 33 maybe they had mike vick out there running around and i might have liked him okay okay okay okay okay

Speaker 33 uh florida state quarterback tommy costellano mocks alabama with merch uh after opener upset prior to fsu game costellano stated they don't have nick saber to save them i just don't see them stopping me costellano not only backed up by uh beating balm at 31 17 but now is profiting offices he's selling on shirt website taunting Alabama merch.

Speaker 33 Nick, can't save them. What's the pettiest thing you've ever done after backing up your trash talk on the field, Locho?

Speaker 34 Hey, that's a funny thing. Wait, excuse my ignorance.
As a collegiate kid, are you allowed to sell merch like that and profit from it outside of NIL? You can do that?

Speaker 33 Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 34 Oh, that's dope. I like that.

Speaker 34 For one, the fact that Castellono, the fact that Castellanos. said that before week one against a game like Alabama and then went out there and backed it up.
And did it.

Speaker 34 Man, please alumni all that alumni and all them students probably bought all that stuff up right

Speaker 33 of course of course it's it's only up from here yeah absolutely up from here all right just keep winning hey keep winning and and your pockets gonna get fatter and fatter young man oh yeah oh yeah absolutely he was nine to 14 above 52 uh 16 rushes 78 yards but he was the quarterback of note His team won.

Speaker 33 He played really, really well. He didn't have stats to blow you away.
The most impressive stat that that a quarterback can have is a win. W.
Because at the end of the day,

Speaker 33 that's how we're supposed to measure quarterbacks.

Speaker 33 And he's one more, and he beat Alabama. And we know what Florida State has been over the last couple of years.
There are a lot of people that was calling for their head coach's job,

Speaker 33 but the alumni and the...

Speaker 33 They stayed the booster.

Speaker 33 And the president, they stayed true. We believe in this guy.
Because they had just went, what? Didn't they go to the, I think? Nah, they had lost. They lost their quarterback.

Speaker 33 They didn't make the college football playoff. They lost their quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 But came back, and here they are, open the season with a big-time win. They weren't ranked, but they will be when the rankings come out on Tuesday.

Speaker 34 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 33 But that's what you have to do, Ocho. You have to go out there.
He said what he said, and he went out there and backed it out. He backed it up, and he's right.

Speaker 33 Coach Sabin couldn't save him. Kaylin DeBoer, you got to get on, you got to

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Speaker 33 And they lost 43 to 10. He finished with 11 completions on 22 pass attempts, 50%,

Speaker 33 136 passing yards, one touchdown, one interception.

Speaker 34 Hey, sometimes you got to be careful.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 34 Sometimes you got to be careful. Now, this is just not a message for him.
This is message.

Speaker 34 in life in general. Sometimes you're in situations.

Speaker 34 Sometimes you're in situations where you want more and you think the grass is green on the other side when you got stability right there in your backyard

Speaker 34 you got comfortability right there in your backyard and tennessee is a no no state not to cut you off your but if i'm not mistaken i think tennessee is a no state income tax yes come on now tax state you got you got the under you got to understand that then you're trying to be greedy your play on the field is going to take care of itself if you want more money in nil it's going to you take care of that in between the lines

Speaker 34 with your play they will have no problem bumping you up they let you go for a reason, they let you go seek out what you're looking for, which is more elsewhere.

Speaker 34 And then you go somewhere where you make

Speaker 33 less and they tax you more

Speaker 34 and they tax more, and you lost your first game against Utah.

Speaker 34 Come on, man, that's a life lesson in itself, too. Uncle, so that's a life lesson in itself.

Speaker 33 So, uh,

Speaker 33 making a million dollars, so you at 30, what is it, 36% tax rate? So every million dollars, you get 630,000. So he could have made 1.260.

Speaker 33 Now he's making 600,000. So he left 600,000 on the table.

Speaker 33 That's money in his pocket.

Speaker 34 Come on,

Speaker 34 you got to do better. Understand the situation you're in.

Speaker 33 Because California is, I think, a 13%.

Speaker 33 Yeah. 13% state income tax.
So you figure 36% plus 13, that's 49%.

Speaker 33 Then you got FICA, and then you you got all these other because hey California hit you over your head oh they coming to get there boy California hit you over your head they get there well they get all that

Speaker 34 all that they need to use that goddamn money to expand the goddamn 405 and make it 200

Speaker 34 traffic

Speaker 33 uh well if that's the case they need to make it to 810. No, they don't need it.
They don't need to expand nothing. They need to look.

Speaker 33 I mean, California, they be taxing. They got what, probably the fourth or fifth largest GDP of anywhere in the world.
And we talk about a state. We ain't talking about the United States.

Speaker 33 We talk about a state within the United States. That's how much money that they make.

Speaker 33 It's just that

Speaker 33 you can't take care of every single person.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 33 You know,

Speaker 33 and Cali

Speaker 33 Try to take care of every single person. I think they waste a lot of money.
Oh, Joe, Michael Parsons was reportedly viewed by some Cowboys teammates as egotistical and self-centered.

Speaker 33 Hold on. Sports Illustrated Albert Breer reports Martin, Lamb, and Prescott are very popular in the locker room.
That's Zach Martin, CeeDee Lamb, Dak Prescott.

Speaker 33 That's not the case with Parsons, who has rankled teammates in different ways. seen by some as egotistical and self-centered.

Speaker 33 His podcast, which we knew, Ocho, has created issues too, and they go all the way up to the quarterback Dak Prescott. We said that we would start hearing negative comments about Michael.

Speaker 33 Oh, Joe, what did I tell you? We just had this, we had this conversation. I said, oh, Ocho, die, pretty soon, you're going to start hearing negative comments about Marcus

Speaker 33 Michael Seepin.

Speaker 33 I said, come on, Ocho. I know it's coming.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 I always felt, because here's the thing, Ocho. You do a podcast.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 33 You lose the first thing they're going to say, if you get your ass off the podcast and practice and study your play, you win games.

Speaker 33 In order for your podcast, you got to be interested, you got to be entertaining. So you got to take shots at other people.

Speaker 33 And, you know, I think there was a situation, wasn't it talking about quarterbacks and he didn't have Dak in his top five or something like that? Yeah.

Speaker 33 I remember that.

Speaker 33 So, yeah,

Speaker 33 I get it.

Speaker 33 I don't have a problem. I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of people want to get on the media, going to get in the media space, and they're trying to create that medium now.

Speaker 33 But you have to be careful. You really have to be careful.
I tell guys, look, if CBS or Fox or NBC calls you and they ask you, go do it on your bye week. Right.
Go to your local news station.

Speaker 33 Talk sports. Talk to the guy that does sports.
That's what I did when I was in Denver. I had a local radio show.

Speaker 33 But when they called me, hey, I would go do highlights. Do something.
But this podcast, I mean,

Speaker 33 you have to be careful. And plus, and I'm going to turn it over to you, Ocho.

Speaker 33 Everybody is not going to be liked in a locker room. I don't care how great you are.
There are going to be some people that you're going to rub the wrong way. You don't talk too much.
You standoffish.

Speaker 33 You don't talk enough. You don't ingratiate yourself to the locker room.
So everybody is not going to be beloved. And that's okay.
That's okay. But I knew this podcast would cause an issue.

Speaker 33 Go ahead, Ocho.

Speaker 34 It shouldn't have. There's no reason it should cause issues.

Speaker 34 Anything Micah decides to do outside of the game of football when he's not playing, when he's not in meetings, when he's not playing a game, you know, it's all for it.

Speaker 34 I'm all for it. If you know Micah, if you met him personally, you understand he's a very playful, fun-loving guy.

Speaker 34 He's a likable person. He's not in the type of player that

Speaker 34 you can not like, you know, or one of those people who come to work and it's strictly business. He doesn't associate with you.
No, he's friendly.

Speaker 34 So again, when things like this come out, of course, those who might not like him are those who probably don't do their goddamn job on Sundays at one o'clock.

Speaker 34 I bet you that those who don't like him are the ones who don't show up like he showed up the past four years and doing what he's supposed to do and being one of the few who's had 12 sacks in the last four years at his position.

Speaker 34 I guarantee you that. Let's pull up the stats for the people or the person that's in that locker room that claims they don't like him.

Speaker 34 And I guarantee you he doesn't live up to the standard at their position that he lives up to it. Here's.

Speaker 34 I bet you that. It's always some hate nasty shit.

Speaker 33 I'm sorry.

Speaker 34 It's always someone that's not frowned upon. Someone else who's doing something outside of the building, but they handles their business inside of the building, especially in between the lines.

Speaker 34 That's it.

Speaker 33 It is.

Speaker 33 But I'm not, look, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 33 I'm sure there are a lot of people that like me in Denver. Some didn't.
Some people like me in Baltimore. Some didn't.

Speaker 33 I guess some a little more now than others, but hey, that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 33 Ocho, you know, since it is.

Speaker 34 Hey, that threw me for a loop.

Speaker 33 That threw me for a loop. I mean,

Speaker 34 I know, I know, I don't know, but I'm just, yeah.

Speaker 33 It threw a lot of people for a loop, Ocho.

Speaker 33 But I looked, it's over with now.

Speaker 33 And let's go to the, right here, because this, just add, just add some layers to it. Just a week ago, Dak said he was confident Parsons would be on the field for the Cowboys matchup week one.

Speaker 33 Well, Dak

Speaker 33 has a new tune since Michael got dealt. I definitely think he was going to get,

Speaker 33 I definitely didn't think he was going to get to trade, get traded, but just the way their negotiations went down, obviously to

Speaker 33 some extent, hell, y'all were asking me questions. Remember, I said that's how it becomes a distraction because you're not asking me about the game, you're asking me about Michael's contract.

Speaker 33 Hell, y'all was asking me questions. It seemed like it had gotten personal, which we said that it had become personal.

Speaker 33 And so that's why I wasn't surprised. Yeah, I told you.
Jerry's Eagle.

Speaker 33 Now,

Speaker 33 it came out today that Deron Bland got a contract extension.

Speaker 33 But did you hold on?

Speaker 33 Well deserved.

Speaker 34 Well deserved.

Speaker 33 But they had been working with his representative since offseason. Jake Ferguson got a deal.
They had been working with his representative all offseason. They're trying to get Tyler Smith done.

Speaker 33 They're working with his representative. You see here, Ocho? You see how Jerry's ego?

Speaker 33 Jerry's ego wouldn't let him work with Micah's agent because i'm gonna show you i do what i want to do and if you want to do a deal here you're going to do it my way so if you work with all of those guys representative he worked with cd's representative he worked with dagg's representative i just listed three guys represented that he worked with but for some reason he was unwilling to work with micah's representative yeah i he he he he took that friendship and those conversations to heart He took those friendship, those conversations and that friendship to heart.

Speaker 34 And Micah split that right down the middle. Listen, I play for your team.
You sign my checks.

Speaker 34 But when it comes to conducting business, you're going to have to talk to my representation, even after whatever handshake, whatever words might have been exchanged. That's not the way contracts work.

Speaker 34 That's not the way business works. You were trying to undermine Micah Parsons.

Speaker 34 You were trying to pay him not what he's worth.

Speaker 34 Obviously, because he mentioned about what he was offering, but the offering that he was paying Micah to make him the highest paid was before TJ Watt got paid.

Speaker 34 It was before Miles Garrett got paid.

Speaker 33 And plus, he said, I will make you the highest paid, but

Speaker 33 you added years. You added a year to it.

Speaker 33 Trying to be slick. Trying to be slick.

Speaker 33 Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett got four years, 160.

Speaker 33 No, bro, I'm not going to let you do that. I shook your hand, but I told you, call my agent.
Call my representative.

Speaker 33 You won't call the representative back?

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 33 you try, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. They told you, no, we don't, you want to do a five-year plus the option.
That's six years.

Speaker 33 Most agents want to keep that thing for plus the one because I want another bite at this.

Speaker 33 Now, because what once Micah contracts, once his uh, that 3136 guaranteed money, so within the first three years, he's not going to have any more guaranteed money the back end, Ojo.

Speaker 33 So now, and plus, that means his uh

Speaker 33 his uh cap number is going to be extremely extremely high because I get to pro rate that 120 over a five-year period

Speaker 33 so I try to try try to div it up equally but at the back end those last those last couple years old that thing gonna be high the giraffe head oh yeah oh yeah so now I come back to the table well you know hey you know six years now michael says hey i'm 26 i can get another body this apple at 30.

Speaker 33 y'all ever see your boy at 30 30 come on now.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 that's what I'm looking at. I'm like, hold on.
What do you mean

Speaker 33 they talked to Deron Bland's representative? What do you mean they talked to Jake Ferguson's representative? What do you mean they're looking to talk to Tyler Smith representative?

Speaker 33 Micah just asked to talk to my representative. No, we had a deal.
No, we didn't. I shook your head and told you.
Call my agent. Right.

Speaker 33 He knew what the agent was going to say.

Speaker 34 Oh, he know. No.
Hey, wait, the supposedly the best agent in the game? Oh, you knew exactly what he was going to say.

Speaker 34 You knew exactly. You can't pull a fast one on the agent.
Right. Pull a fast one on the player.

Speaker 33 Yeah, because he's looking at the mic is looking at the Ocho. He's looking at that.
Man, 200 million, Ocho?

Speaker 34 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, it looked good.
It looked good. But the agent, the agent got a magnifying glass.

Speaker 34 Let me peel back some of these layers to this 200 million you're talking about.

Speaker 33 You know, I got light on, ocho. I got light on.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 33 Yeah, it was dark in the room oh i can't feed i need it yeah you know you're going to be restaurants ojo and they hand you the menu i pull out my phone right quick putting that light on and

Speaker 34 pricing damn hey it never it never ever

Speaker 34 seems what they say it is never

Speaker 34 That's why you need representation. That's it.

Speaker 33 I'm not, oh, Joe, I'm not saying we've seen guys, we've seen Lamar and his mom, and with the help of an NFL PA lawyer, do the contract themselves. But they made it abundantly clear.

Speaker 33 We're not hiring hiring representation. We'll do something hourly.
We'll get an NFL PA. We saw Bobby Wagner do that.
We saw Sherm do his own contract.

Speaker 33 Okay, if the guy says I'm doing my own contract, I got no problem with that. You can, the owner, the general manager, can work directly with the player.
You see Shea Gilgis.

Speaker 33 Now, it's a lot easier in basketball because you're either getting a max or damn near close to a max deal. So Shea says, I'm not going to hand over 3%, 4% when I already know I'm going to get the max.

Speaker 33 Right. Got it.
Got it. But in the NFL,

Speaker 33 hey, Lamarck says, I feel I can go it alone. That 3%, I can keep that in my pocket.
And when you're dealing with that kind of money, 3% don't seem like much.

Speaker 33 When you start dealing $100, $200, $300 million, 3% is a damn lot of money. A lot of money.
A whole lot of money. So with that being said, he knew Michael had representation.

Speaker 33 Now, he worked with everybody else's representation. Now, if that's what

Speaker 33 I read was correct, it said he worked. They've been working with Deron Bland's representation all offseason.

Speaker 33 Same thing with Jake Ferguson, and they're working with Tyler Smith, trying to get something done now. We know they work with Dak Prescott.
He's the highest paid.

Speaker 33 He didn't do a deal directly with Dak. He worked with Todd France, who's the CD's agent.

Speaker 33 He worked with that. But for some reason, I just need to know why was he so unwilling to work with David Mugaletta?

Speaker 33 I just need somebody to explain that to me.

Speaker 34 Also, probably understand, maybe he didn't want to pay Mike all along.

Speaker 34 Maybe he didn't want to pay Mike all along, understanding that he had other deals coming off the table, like the Ron Bland, or whatever he's getting ready to do with Jake Ferguson, or whoever else they might pay before the CAA.

Speaker 33 Okay,

Speaker 33 okay, they were CAA. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 33 If that's the case, if you needed to stop the run, if you didn't like the way Micah was hurt, if you don't think Michael, so why would you negotiate? So why would you want to do a deal with the guy?

Speaker 33 If he's not what you think he is, or he's not the player, so why would you even enter why would you even try to work a deal with him why not just go ahead and trade it why not get a draft pick this year

Speaker 34 because he was lying to himself or he was lying to us trying to make us believe that he's the reason yes trying to believe like okay now he's gone well we let him go because hey we need to get better at stopping the run child please

Speaker 33 you hadn't been able to stop the run for four years so what you got all those defensive tackles for

Speaker 33 you see the problem that i have is that your defense was not built to stop the run. Your offense was.

Speaker 33 And Shannon, what do you, and people, I know Chat, you ask me and say, well, Shannon, what do you mean by that? His offense was bid to get the lead. And so now his defense pinning the ears back.

Speaker 33 They're an undersized defense. And as long as you can keep the game close or you can get the lead, you can pound their ass.

Speaker 33 Pause. You can run the ball.

Speaker 33 Because I know what y'all go. I know y'all about to say some crazy stuff.
So in other words, you can run the ball on them because they're built to play with a lead lead and get pressure.

Speaker 33 Now,

Speaker 33 guess what? They ain't got no lead. They have to stand up in there.
And a lot of those guys ain't got a whole lot of bricks in their back pocket.

Speaker 33 So, when you build your off, when you build your team a certain way,

Speaker 33 well, you build your team with speed,

Speaker 33 you need to be able to use it. And if you got a team that wants to run the football, speed don't help you.

Speaker 34 Nah.

Speaker 34 At all.

Speaker 33 So, uh,

Speaker 33 that's one of the things.

Speaker 33 And look, and people like, well, what Dak could have done. No, if I'm Dak, I ain't doing nothing.
I'm getting all my money.

Speaker 34 Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 33 My job. My job.
You tell us you're a player.

Speaker 33 Oh, Joe, what they tell us? He's a player. Well, if I'm a player, my job ain't try to figure out the cap.

Speaker 33 You figure out the cap. You don't pay me actually to work on the cap.
You pay me a salary to do what I do on the football field. All that other stuff, it ain't my job to worry about the cap.

Speaker 33 Well, you know, they got a cap and you can only do so.

Speaker 34 I ain't got nothing to do with me hey you know what else you know what else works in favor especially in quarterback positions especially in dak position there have been other quarterbacks that have been in great situations where the timing of when it's time for them to get paid there's nowhere else for that team to go right there's nowhere else for that team to go to get someone that's competent enough to come in come in and be quarterback number one so you ain't got no choice but to pay these young fellas what they owe at the time you ain't got no choice because there's no other there's no other option right and plus I'm not, first of all, I don't trust Jerry.

Speaker 33 Jerry ain't built nothing in 30 years. So why would I, why am I going to leave him money on the table? Why am I going to, first of all, this is my really first big bite at the Apple.

Speaker 33 Why am I going to give a guy that's worth 15 billion? Why am I going to give him a discount?

Speaker 34 Absolutely not.

Speaker 33 Chad, let's just say for the sake of argument, you work for a company and that company is worth 20 billion. And they say, you know what,

Speaker 33 Charlene, we want to get Pam an HR, but it's going to cost us to go take 15,000 of your money. Well, Charlene ain't going to be an HR because you ain't taking a dime of mine.

Speaker 33 So, no, you don't give no billionaire, no discount. You're a millionaire.
Now, if the next contract dat wants to be generous enough,

Speaker 34 that's different.

Speaker 33 That's on him. But I feel no obligation to cut you a slack so you can.
No, no, no, no, no, that ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 34 Not that first one. No, that first one.
No, sir.

Speaker 33 Because what Jerry say, when CBS, I don't know if you watch this, CBS had had the broadcast right. A lot of the other owners, CBS was losing money.

Speaker 33 A lot of the other owners wanted to keep CBS as the broadcast partner. Jerry said, no, we're not cutting them a deal.
We're not going to do it. But see, Jerry refute,

Speaker 33 go ask CBS, go ask NBC, go ask Fox, go ask Amazon, go ask Netflix. Did y'all get a deal with these NFL rights?

Speaker 33 They didn't get a deal, but they expect players. Well, Shanna, there's a cap.
What did that got to do with me? Ain't no cap on my bank account.

Speaker 33 My bank account says as much money that'll pour in, we can take it.

Speaker 33 That ain't got nothing to do with me

Speaker 33 because teams will make as much money as they can. Now, it's going to sound very, very interesting, Ocho.
Now, you watch with these next contracts, watch around 28. Because these things come due.

Speaker 33 They're coming due, Ocho, about 20, so 20, 20, about 10 years. Watch around 28 when they start doing it.

Speaker 33 YouTube is gonna say, hey, we want some of this.

Speaker 33 Netflix is gonna say, hey, man, live programming. We want some of this.
Amazon says,

Speaker 33 ooh, man. Oh, man.
I see what we do. Hey, I see what we're doing with these Thursday night games.
I see what we do with these Black Friday games.

Speaker 33 Just imagine we get a whole package.

Speaker 33 So that 430, that 432 is going to probably be 650.

Speaker 33 Come Come 2028, 2029.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I'm gonna get me a little piece of that.

Speaker 33 Hey, so I, man, please.

Speaker 34 Yeah, we're gonna get me a little piece of that. I need to holler at, I need to holler at Jeff.

Speaker 34 I got an interview with Jeff Bezos for a position over at Amazon.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 34 I'm excited to see how that's gonna go.

Speaker 33 All right.

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