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The Cowboys agree to turn with cornerback Deron Bland four years, $92 million with an extension of $50 million guaranteed.

And Ocho, he got, what, $20 million at the time of signing.

Bland average, $23 million, makes him the sixth highest paid corner in the league.

Bland, a one-time Pro Bowler, the one-time all-pro

from his nine-interception

23 campaign, in which he delivered a record-setting five-pick sixes as part of a prolific

cornerback duo with Trayvon Diggs.

He earned it.

Oh, yeah.

You got Nick last year, but his first year, I think he had five picks.

He turned around, give you 14.

He got Nick.

Hey, you believe he's your guy?

You got a little extra money stashed away since you didn't sign Micah?

Hey, we good.

They good.

I like it.

Yeah,

he definitely earned that.

I'm excited to see him back.

I'm excited to see when

Trayvon Diggs comes back.

So

I think they,

defensively, I'm not sure what the cowboys are gonna look like but they're gonna have some bright spots at certain positions i'm gonna say i'm gonna say it like that they're gonna have some bright spots at certain positions

there's no conspiracies or hidden agendas with shador sanders placement on the browns depth chart heading into the season according to franchise legend joe thomas thomas said the reality of the nfl draft is that they you have 32 teams that all want to beat each other and so they're not conspiring together to sabotage somebody by the way would be great for the league uh and And he's great for the league because the league wants eyeballs.

They want people watching their games.

They want these great personalities.

And so there's no reason.

There's no reason

they would be trying to conspire against him and sabotage him.

Actually, the opposite.

They want to promote a guy like that because he's great for the league and it doesn't make sense on any level.

They just believing that with the morons and not being able to see this guy is great things since Sliced Bread, the greatest quarterback since Tom Brady.

And he's ready right now to be able to elevate a franchise to the Super Bowl all the time.

We're idiots for not seeing it.

I think it's a higher ceiling.

I think he has a higher ceiling.

He's a great playmaker.

He has a tremendous accuracy.

And he has that, you know, when you're in the game, how to make those big plays.

But just because you have that ceiling that's really high and the potential to be able to, that doesn't mean you can do it right now.

I like it.

I mean, that's real cute.

That's real cute from Joe Thomas.

Obviously, a Browns legend.

Yes.

If anybody knows anything about that organization, the way they view things, it is him.

He has a right to his own opinion.

He has a right to his own opinion.

And sometimes his opinion will differ from others based on what they see.

and what they're seeing and how they're processing how they've handled Shador.

Outside of that, I mean, we've talked about it in depth from top to bottom.

He made the team.

I'm happy for him.

He's a third string quarterback.

I think at some point he will play.

Will it be this year?

It depends on how bad things go with Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel when they get their opportunities to play.

But I think Shadur will see the field.

And when that opportunity presents itself, when that door opens, you need to walk through that door and close it behind you.

Yep.

That's it.

Travis Kelsey, difference, though, Ocho.

Give the people what they want in terms of Browns fans.

Start Shadur.

Give the people what they want.

The world wants to see him go out there and not only play, but have success.

At this point, guys are rooting for him.

This isn't anything against Dylan.

This isn't anything against Joe.

I'm just saying the excitement is there for Shadur to go out there.

He's going to put eyes on the screen.

He's going to bring people to the game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Travis looking from a different perspective.

Travis from Cleveland.

Yes.

I mean, obviously, being from Cleveland, but he's also looking at the type of player and the excitement that he's going to bring.

You're going to have people tuning in to watch Browns games.

You're going to have people coming to Browns games to fill the stadium simply to see a quarterback.

You know, it's different.

Every team has that guy that

you're going to see, or you turn the TV on to see.

Every team has one, maybe two.

You know, so I understand where Trav is coming from, but that's not the way the business works itself.

That's not, it's not, that's not, it's not the way it works.

You're right, Ocho.

I think

when you said, like, look,

Joe Flacco clearly is going to start the season.

The number two quarterback is Dylan Gabriel.

And

if Shadur is to get his chance, once he gets in there,

hey, take all the chairs away from the table.

Can't nobody else sit at the table.

Just me.

Just me.

It's just me.

And

I do think, think, you know, people do root for him.

Yeah.

Look,

even if Flacco falters and they go to Gabriel, Gabriel's a rookie also.

And he's going to struggle.

He's going to make some mistakes.

I think the thing is that

we've seen Jaden Daniels and we've seen CJ Stroud and we see some of these quarterbacks come in.

They make it think like everybody, everybody's not going to be able to play like that.

Those are isolated and they had really good players around them.

yes.

They had really good players around them, had really good play callers.

And, you know,

that doesn't mean whomever's in there is going to have that level of success.

People just think that, people just think that it's easy.

But that's part of the thing.

Hey, I mean, I mean, when I first got in the league, man, you ain't that big.

I probably could have played in the league.

Oh, you think that's all it takes?

It's size.

Size, yeah, I hear that all the time.

Man, you ain't that big, okay?

You know, I didn't, you know, when I filled out the job application, it didn't say I had to, there was, it's not like the

amusement part, there's a height and size requirement.

Height requirement?

Yeah.

But

look,

what is meant to be is going to be.

Yeah.

It's really that simple.

What is meant to be is going to be.

If it's meant for Shadur to play this season, he'll play this season.

If it's not meant to be, play this season, he won't play.

All I'm saying is that he should approach every practice like it's his Sunday's game.

Yeah, absolutely.

You don't have a choice, it's the only way to approach it.

That's the only way you're going to approve those.

Are your reps?

That's your Sunday.

That's your game.

Trust me, they're watching now.

They're watching to see

how you're getting those guys on the practice squad, how you're getting those guys to play.

You know, hey, you, hey, come on, guys.

Let's hey, come on, we got to make those plays.

What type of look you're giving the defense,

study the quarterback that you're going to be representing

and give them that look.

If that guy is a pocket quarterback, stay in the pocket.

If the guy moves, you're going to have to be able to move something.

You're going to have to give them as realistic of a look

that they're going to see on Sunday.

Oh, yeah.

And sometimes you have to

get out of who you actually are.

You know what I'm saying, Ocho?

Yes.

Because, you know, that might not be your style, but your style is not going to be the style they're going to see on Sunday.

So it does them no good

to see do what you do during the course of the week and then the guy on sunday gives them an entirely different look

but i just look to the best man win you get out there and you do what you're supposed to do and if if flacco can hold him off he can hold him off if gabriel gets in and he can hold him off he holds him off Shadur gets in and he can hold him off, he holds him off.

But I don't want to be, you know, okay, Flacco didn't do well in five weeks.

Okay, here come Gabriel.

Gabriel doesn't do for five weeks and here come Shadur.

Shadur doesn't do well.

Here come Flacco.

Oh, Oh,

that merry-go-round of quarterbacks.

Yeah, but I just don't know because it's not like Joe Flacco is going to be your long-term solution.

Joe Flacco's not going to be there next year.

I don't think anybody thinks that Joe Flacco is going to be starting, going to be in Cleveland next season.

So for me,

you might as well go with one of the youngsters and keep it moving.

That's what's going to happen at some point

if the bottom falls out at some point.

Because

once they make a change, they're not going back nor should they no once they make a change it's rapid nor should they so look

everybody's rooting for shador they want him to play and people can't understand you know look some things uh uh uh

truth and fiction the only difference between truth and fiction

fiction has to make sense and this doesn't make sense to a lot of people a guy that threw the ball as well as he did, the amount of touchdowns that he threw for, the low interception rate, what he was able to do at Jackson State, what he was able to do at Colorado.

Does he have some deficiency?

Yes.

Does he bail backwards too much?

Yes.

Does he belly too much and go sideways?

Yes.

Does he hold on to the ball too long?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, he's not perfect by no stretch of the imagination.

And those are things that he's going to have to correct in order to be the type of quarterback that he wants to become.

He's going to have to get better.

He's going to have to, Ocho, I think the biggest thing he's going to have to do is to say, F my completion percentage.

Because sometimes I think he's going to hold on to the ball because he don't want to throw an incompletion.

Wait for everything to pass.

Ocho, if you get sacked 65 times, who the hell cares if you got a 70% completion rate?

Because there are a couple of times that you took yourself out of field goal range on those sacks.

That's what happens.

If you take that many sacks, there are going to be times that you're going to take yourself out of field goal range, that you potentially take points off the board.

He is going to have to get better at that.

And I'm sure the coaching staff is in his ear telling him, Shadur, you're going to have to get better at that.

You can't take these sacks.

You can't put us in third and long.

Keep us in second and short.

Keep us in third and short, not third and long.

Keep us in field goal range.

You can't take a sack when the situation clock, like we saw Notre Dame quarterback.

Can't take a sack in that situation.

You got no timeouts.

The receivers are way downfield.

So think about how long it's going to take.

Think about how long that play developed.

And now think about how long it's going to take those guys to get back downfield.

Yeah.

You got to speed up everything.

You got to speed up everything.

And those guys are coming.

This is not 707.

You know what?

Get back to the pat, Ocho.

Back in your damn head.

Every blue moon, you get one of them.

Every blue moon.

But it's not often.

Nah.

Not often at all.

So we'll see how it plays out.

Guess what?

We'll find out

in the next five, six weeks, Ocho.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, I know, I can tell you what's going to happen week one.

I can tell you that right now.

The Browns finna get their ass whooped.

Browns finna, I'm telling you, the Bengal, the Bengals might score 55.

Hey, Chad, anybody else?

I thought you said the Browns had a good defense with Denzel Ward, Miles Garrett.

Oh, yeah, they got a good defense, but the Bengals still might score 55 because we got Jamar Chase.

We have Joe Burrow.

We have T.

Higgins.

We have Chase Brown.

We have a very, very good offensive line.

No, you don't have no good offensive line.

Don't do that.

We have a great restructured offensive line.

Y'all got an okay offensive line.

Nah, we have, no, no.

You're going to see okay week one.

How many sacks miles Gary gonna have?

Against who?

The Brown.

I mean, against the Bengals this week.

I give him one.

I give him one.

I give him one because he's top three in the league right now.

I give him one.

Outside of that, that's it.

We ain't give him no more than that.

And anybody in the chat, you want to bet, let me know.

Anybody in the chat want to bet?

Let me know.

I bet you whatever.

Make it light on yourself.

Anyone in the chat want to know when you going to pay me?

Pay who?

Me.

Oh, oh, man.

You know I got you, cuz.

You know, I got you.

You my guy.

You know, I got you, you know.

Calvin Ridley has in the year two with the Titans.

He says he's in a much better headspace in his life after injury and mental health journey, which included gambling, suspension, derailed his career.

The suspension gave me time to rest, get physically better, and mentally stronger.

After that year, I was ready to come back.

Football has been a job since I was a kid.

That's all I've ever did, man.

I've never worked the job.

I learned a lot of tools during that process.

I still use those things today when it gets hard.

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I'll flush it out the bad thoughts, refresh my mind every time i go home like it

i like he made he he admitted he made a mistake he learned from his mistake

and he moved forward yeah most definitely

most definitely most definitely listen i'm excited i'm excited to see oh he's special he could play like i said i that last year in my that his last year in atlanta

lord have mercy if it's if the issues hadn't arisen

with what happened he's one of those we call coming in those conversations.

We talk about top five.

Yes.

Yes, he was that good.

Yes, he was that good.

Not is, still is, not was, yeah, is that good.

You know, and you're going to see it.

Now you got, he got him a nice quarterback this year, too.

That's going to get him the ball.

All right.

Yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's special.

No, no, no.

He's special.

He's special.

He can go.

He won the ones.

Hey, Uncle, how old is Calvin Ridley now?

Should be about 28.

Yeah.

He should be about 28.

30.

30.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, because

Calvin Ridley was before Amari Coop.

No, he was after Coop.

He was after Coop.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee come see him too after this season.

They They just signed him.

He's the second year of a deal, Ocho.

He is?

Yes.

Remember, that's how they got him from Jacksonville.

Yeah, I don't think that was enough money, though.

I mean, what did he get?

Four for 92?

Oh, that's what it was?

I think so.

At 20, at 20.

Oh, at 30?

Okay, okay.

They might.

It all depends on how much he got up front.

I think, didn't he sign a four-year for 92?

How much did they get Cavarelli?

They gave him a big number, Ocho.

Yeah, okay, okay

they gave him a big number but he can play he he he

he's earned it yeah he's earned it

yeah four for 92.

okay yeah yeah okay okay he good he good he good he good

The Giants have a demanding opening schedule playing the Commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs, and Chargers over the first four weeks of the season.

The athletic reports Russ must engineer wins against those contending to prevent head coach Brian Dayball from benching him for rookie Jackson Dart.

Giants Brass has told everyone who will listen since the draft, Russell is their unquestioned starting quarterback.

And the plan is first-round picks to develop behind the scenes.

It sounds awful familiar to 2019.

The plan was for Eli to start

Daniel Jones on the bench.

Then Jones took over after an 0-2 start.

And the same thing with Eli.

Remember when Eli came in,

Kurt Warner was supposed to be the starter.

And then what happened, Ocho?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey,

I don't think they should rush it.

I hate when the media does this.

I hope the ball is patient, allowing Jackson Dart to sit back and learn, you know, from Russell Wilson instead of being thrown out there to the wolves.

Russell Wilson has enough talent around him offensively.

They have some good pieces on defense.

Well, I think they're going to be fine.

They're going to be fine.

Russell wilson just throw uno the ball baby that's it ocho yeah we got commanders cowboys chiefs chargers okay well don't throw the cowboys out there

don't throw the cowboy name out there like that like they're this uh this is a rivalry game so you know they're the same divisions the divisional game so you know divisional games can go either way ocho you're right you're right but hey i'm and the commanders is another division game rivalry game

Really good.

Chiefs, Chargers, very unfamiliar.

Two AFC West opponents.

I mean, dang, I don't know if I've ever heard of this.

You got two division opponents, and then you got two FC West opponents.

But I'm not, I think, and you and I did over, under, I said I'm going under eight weeks for Jackson Dart.

He played two great in the preseason.

And I've heard rumblings people say you should just.

I'm just talking about preseason.

But I'm just saying.

I know, but I'm saying I've heard people say, hey, I would just roll with with Jackson Dart.

Oh, from jump.

From the jump, yep.

Wait, if they were going to do that, if they were going to do that, they wouldn't have brought in Russell.

They wouldn't have had Jameis.

I mean, they, I mean, there's no way.

There's no way.

There would be no point in even bringing them in if you just run them.

If you run in the middle of the morning,

you didn't know you signed all those guys before you got Jackson Dart.

You didn't know you were going to be in a position to get him.

What if somebody snatches him up?

What if somebody moves ahead of you and take him?

So now, so I got, oh, Joey, it's kind of like, you know, you buy something and you're like, damn,

if I knew I was going to be able to get, if I knew I was going to be able to get that at a cheaper price, I wouldn't even have bought this.

Right, right.

So

I believe that's what happened.

They didn't know they're going to be in a position to get Jackson Dart.

And now all of a sudden, we signed these guys in free agency.

And guess what?

Jackson Dart is there.

Right.

Man, we can get him.

You're right.

Man, if I knew

I could have got this new car for what I,

I wouldn't have got these two usuals.

But it's, it's, uh,

I remember, I, I, and I remember, Ocho,

how sad Eli looked

standing on the sideline.

Yeah.

Well, because Eli has started, you got to understand.

He looks sad when he in the game.

He does.

And just, just his, just his.

His demeanor.

His demeanor.

You can't tell what he's...

Well, they had already broken the street.

Remember Geno Smith when they benched him for that one game?

Yeah.

I say, man, that's some bullshit.

How you going to break the man's streak for one game and then put him back in there?

Yeah, they did that on purpose.

I'm not sure why.

I'm not sure why.

So we'll see.

The over-under is eight.

Mo Lewis blames Drew Brett's Bledsoe for the hit that launched the Tom Brady era.

Bledsoe had just signed a $100 million deal to be what type of quarterback?

A passing quarterback.

Correct.

He had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball.

If he had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball, we would be talking about this.

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Stop the people with the ball.

It's just another play for me, but it's a different.

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Play for him.

It's really irrelevant to me.

I was just another play to me,

to y'all.

It's a big, game-changing, history-changing play.

I've never gone back to watch the play.

If people want to talk about it, I don't hide from it, but it's no importance to me.

Lewis had a board of the spot licensed retiring.

Former team may say he feels slighted because I don't think so.

Look, I know Mo.

Mo and I used to work out together.

He's a funny guy, but he's like, hold on.

So what y'all want me to do?

The guy got the ball.

He's a passing quarterback.

He's not that fast.

And then,

bro, get out of bounds.

Yeah, he was trying to get out of bounds.

Not fast enough?

Yeah,

he was headed out of bounds.

He didn't get out fast enough, but it was a good hit.

It was a good hit.

Good, clean, good, clean.

Hey, good, clean hit.

Drew Brees went down, and the rest was history.

I mean, Drew, Drew Blesso went down, the rest was history.

Yes, the rest was history.

Yeah, so and it lost it.

Go ahead.

I think, I think, if he didn't go down, if Drew, if Drew Blesso didn't get hurt, I think it's somebody history still would have been what it was.

History still would have been what it was, but at some point,

Tom's gonna come in there, yeah.

At some at some point,

I mean, uh, I think it might be a very difficult situation, Ocho.

You just gave a man $100 million, and then you say, Well, we're gonna start this guy that we took in the sixth round.

Hey, that's tough.

That's tough.

Now,

everything that happened after they won the Super Bowl, Coach Belichick could do no wrong in Mr.

Kraft's eyes.

Because it seemed like every button that he pushed with caching, coaching, caching, caching.

And when it's going like that, look, look, I don't,

I don't know anybody that's ever been around Mr.

Kraft.

I've been around him a little bit.

I like him.

Been around Coach Belichick a little less.

I don't have a problem with Coach Belichick, but they are very different people.

They are very, very, very,

very.

How many times did I say very?

Okay, one more time.

Very different people.

They are Ocho.

Yeah.

And

when you got

two

different people

that's opposite of each other,

Mr.

Crabb looked at it like, you know what?

Yeah, we different.

I don't like the way he does certain things or why he talks.

I got it good.

These Super Bowls keep piling up.

We win the division every year.

We're in the AFC championship game every other year.

Yeah, I'm going to keep my mouth closed.

Yeah.

Hey.

Because based on what he had done, Coach Belichay should have got another three, four years.

If you mean to tell me this man gives you 20 years and you win 18, 19 division titles, you go to...

Seven, you go to nine Super Bowls, you win six, you go to 10, 11 AFC championship games, and you mean to tell me you only get two years?

You only get two years?

So I give you 20 years of prosperity

and I only get two years.

One year we make the playoff, the next year.

How many years did Coach Belichick coach after Brady?

I'll make sure I'm with it, two or three.

He drafted Mac Young, they go to the playoffs.

The next year they don't, and did they fire him after that?

I think

Coach Belichick didn't draft Drake May.

He got two years.

Tampa.

In 2020, right?

Yes.

So he coached four years with Alberti.

He coached four years with Alberti?

2020, 2021, 2022, 23.

Wow, I didn't know.

Okay.

He squeezed out four?

He got four.

Went to the playoffs the first year, right?

With Mac Jones.

Oh, Matt, Matt, Matt first year.

Well, Well, he was nice.

Matt, the first year, yeah.

He looked very promising, and then I don't know what happened after that.

Well, it was the second year since Brady left the first year of Mac Jones.

Right.

Yeah, so he got four years after Brady left.

But he went to the playoffs.

The second year?

The second year after Brady left, the first year of Matt Jones.

Okay, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Okay.

And I think that they look, he has started to take those swings and misses, Ocho.

Yeah.

Because when you got Brady, you can swing and miss, and Brady came up there and hit it over the fence.

He makes

Brady was the greatest eraser.

So every mistake that you raid, Brady could erase it.

Every time.

And write in the correct answer.

Now, the mistakes that you were making,

drafting those tight ends, and they're not on the team, signing guys in free agency, and they don't cut it after the year.

Ms.

Crown's like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

This ain't what I'm used to.

No, no, no.

And Ocho, you know, you get used, you get accustomed to a certain level of winning.

Lifestyle, yeah, yeah.

It's hard.

You want to meet me want to maintain that.

Absolutely.

But,

like I said, I don't, you know, Mr.

Krabs is a very religious man.

Not to say that Coach Belichick's not, but I just don't,

I wouldn't necessarily put them together if i don't see them best friends right as just people just common people right you know what i'm saying

and i'm not saying i don't know if owners and coaches are best friends but

strictly business strictly 1000

yeah two people with the same end goal the same end goal in mind when it comes to business and football we trying to compete for the same thing yeah outside building nothing alike.

Nope.

Nope.

And I'm like, Mo, man, what y'all want me to do?

Y'all make it seem like I intended to like almost kill this man.

I didn't.

I just put a hit on him, just like I would anybody else that's running the football.

My job is to hit people, tackle people, and go back to the huddle and do it over again.

Yeah.

But it birthed the dynasty, unlike anything that we had ever seen.

You probably got to go back to the yankees in the 20s or the 50s or the 60s to find any something like this

over the period of time in which it lasted the 60s celtics

you know they went eight championships in in in that decade

where they went eight in a row they won more but they won eight in a row I mean, you got to go back to something like that.

But in football, I don't think I'm going to see it in my lifetime.

Now, I'm not going to live another 80 years.

Probably not going to live another 50 years.

So I'm not going to see it in my lifetime.

Good luck.

Somebody that's in the teenage years seeing something like what we saw from 2000 until Tom Brady left in 2020.

Good luck.

That's what I say.

Good luck.

I mean, 2019.

So good luck.

Hey, you're right.

And it made it, it made,

and people think it's so easy.

They think it's so easy because now we're seeing another great quarterback do it.

Not to that extent, but he ain't too far off.

He's on the street and 15 over there in Kansas City.

No,

it's not easy.

Winning is hard in the NFL.

And to win consistently is even harder.

And to win consistently and then cap it off with championships is even is much harder.

Yeah.

And I think sometimes, you know, it's just like anything, Ocho, you see somebody, man, man, that's easy.

Steph Curry make that look easy.

That is-ish ain't easy.

Man, that man threw the ball back.

That ain't easy.

They just, the greatness sometimes masks just how difficult something is.

Yeah.

Gretzky made hockey look easy.

Usain Bolt made running look easy.

Michael Phelps made swimming look easy.

Simone Bowes made it look easy.

Serena, it's not.

That's just that they're so great, you take it for granted.

Yeah.

But when you play, when you're a professional athlete, no matter the sport that you're in, and you see somebody else, another professional athlete do something and do it consistently at an extremely high level,

I think you have a greater appreciation for it, Ocho, than say the normal fan.

Yes.

Yeah.

I definitely think you have a great appreciation because you realize you understand.

Because you think about OJO, you think about what we put into what we do.

And we were great in our own right.

But when you see Jerry or you see Tom or you see Mahomes or you see

Emmett Smith or you see a Jerry Rice or you see a Joe Montana or you see a Jordan or a Larry Bird or Magic and

a LeBron and a Steph Curry.

You're like, damn.

Damn.

And you look at Joe, you're like, I remember, like, damn, I mean, I remember being in high school, like, damn, I'm really talented.

I mean, I do stuff that just comes so easy.

I mean, it's easy for me to do this.

And then you see these guys, you're like,

what must they have been like in high school?

What was LeBron like?

What was time like?

What was

I think Serena was homeschooled?

homeschooled, so I'm like, damn.

You get a great appreciation for greatness.

Yeah.

Because you understand it's just, and there's levels to greatness.

There's levels to greatness.

That it is.

I think the casual fan really wouldn't understand it.

The casual fan, I think those that have played the game, played the sport,

can see it a little bit differently and understand what you're witnessing beforehand.

Seeing Brady play, seeing Pat Mahomes,

seeing stuff like that, and the dynasties and that they're creating the situations on how great certain situations are, especially when they end that Brady and Belichick era.

Yeah, Patrick Mahomes, the Andy Reid era, watching the greatness of LeBron, people not understanding, always having something negative to say, watching the greatness of LeBron for so long, not understanding how great what we're witnessing is until it's no longer there.

Yeah,

it ain't hit you now.

It ain't hitting nobody yet.

You got to wait till they're done.

Then you'll see how great Steph Curry is.

Right.

They don't understand yet.

Yeah.

I mean,

and there'll be other great players.

And but then you'll have a like, man, man, you remember when,

man, you remember when Bron and KD?

Man, you remember when Steph Curry and such and such?

Just like Bird and Magic, just like Jordan and this one, Elijah Wan and Shaq.

Right.

20 years from now, people will talk about KD and LeBron, Steph and LeBron,

Jokic and this one, Luca and that one.

It'll be just like that.

Just like we talk about those guys.

And just like people used to talk about when I was coming up, they talked about Chamberlain and Russell.

Oh, Choe, Polish Millionaire CEO

Charette, I ain't going to mess this man's name up, but this is what he said.

He said, I understand that some people might not like it, but please, let's not make a global scandal out of a hat.

It's just a hat.

If you were faster, you would have had it.

I remind you that insulting a public figure is subject to legal liability.

No, it's not.

You sue somebody, you, if you were to sue somebody in the States, ain't nothing going to happen.

Because, bro,

you snatched the hat.

First of all, you took the kid's pen.

He tried to hand the guy, he tried to hand the kid the hat.

You snatched the hat.

You got something signed, and then you gave the kid

his pen back.

You didn't let the kid get his tennis ball signed.

You didn't let him get the hat.

You took the pen, got something signed for yourself.

After you took the hat.

Wait, he took, why he took the cat from the little kid, though, huh?

Because he said if the kid was faster, he'd have had it.

Ah,

who signed it?

What a tennis player.

The tennis player took the hat off to give to the kid because it was his pen that he was siding with.

Oh, and the

grown-ass man, yes.

Ah, man, come on, man.

That's messed up.

Matter of fact, he has the resources to be able to get it signed without having to do all that.

Yes.

Come on, now.

Tighten up, man.

tighten up from a kid now now it was the kid's pen and the tennis player signed all that and the kid didn't get anything signed he didn't get anything signed and he didn't get and he didn't get a keepsake

i would always if i use somebody's pen i say hey bro here let me get that it's your pen how you gonna let everybody borrow your pen you sign five six seven things and the guy and the kid's pen that you use he don't even get anything signed yeah

Man, who pins?

Who pins is this?

Who pin is this?

Mine, and let me get that, bro.

Right.

That's how you're supposed to do it.

Y'all, sometimes grown people, y'all be doing too much.

And you see this all the time.

They be for a baseball, the kid about to have a ball.

They toss the ball and they reach that big grown ass over there and snatch it.

Yeah.

Come on, bro.

From a kid,

you're going to snatch a ball or a towel or wristband wristband or whatever the case may be, Ocho.

Come on now.

Is that where we are in society?

Every time.

Yeah, he's Polish.

Don't put that on us.

He's part of society, Ocho.

Not ours.

Where do you think we see that most of the time?

If I didn't tell you, you wouldn't know that.

You wouldn't know he's Polish.

We just happen to say that.

That's what we see in society.

We're a part of society.

And just when I think society, we're better than this as a society, i come to the realization no we're not this is who we are as a society this is what we become as a society we become we become selfish we become greedy no let me take that back ojo we become more we've always been this yes we've always been this we've become more

but i couldn't believe and and then he had the nerve to tweet, to tweet this.

Oh, he on Twitter too?

He said, understand some people might not like it but please let's not make a global scandal out of a hat it's just a hat if it's just a hat why the hell you do all that to get it

i think i think chat hey chat we need to tweet him to him give us that goddamn hat back to the little kid

we need to think about things yeah

yeah he's a ceo He ain't just some willy-nilly person that works at a company, Ocho.

He's the CEO of a company.

Right.

And he's like, if you were faster, you would have had it.

Really?

So, because the kid doesn't have the reflexes as an adult, wow.

Hey.

And

first of all,

hey, what's his Twitter, man?

I don't know what to do.

Let's go pay him, but let's go pay his business a visit.

That's what he's upset about.

People have been like writing negative reviews about the business.

Yeah, people have been writing writing negative reviews about the business uh pure

what is it sure zac sherzarec

peotor

what kind of place is it what do they say

what services do they provide so we get we can leave a uh

leave a yellow company

oh it's like it's like a paving company oh joe paving Yeah.

Yeah,

we're going to get them out of business.

That's Poland's theater industry.

Yeah.

Hopefully they don't need to pave anything, or they use another company.

Yeah.

It's also as a test.

I know he is.

Ain't talking about insulting a public figure.

Maybe in Poland,

but you ain't going to get no justice.

You bring your ass over here.

Because.

Hey, hell no.

hey, don't play one thing about it, boy.

People don't play when people come together, yeah, but they want to get you out of there,

but he won't have no business left.

But you can be a jerk in any, in any, in any language, in any nationality, Polish, American, uh, African, Italian, German,

whatever.

So we we we keep it a bit, we keep it a bug here.

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As taxpayers have

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Terry Pagula's mega yacht, dubbed Top 52, is over 200 feet in length, featuring luxury cabins that can accommodate up to 12 guests.

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Ocho,

he's not the first.

And I don't know Mr.

Bagula.

I don't know him.

I've never met him.

I do.

I know him well.

I know his daughter.

She advanced today in tennis and straight sets.

Why would you do that when you take a billion dollars of public money and then you turn around and you buy a hundred million dollar yacht

when you're probably worth four or five billion dollars why would you do that

i have a question too um yes i think the timing of when he chose to do it yes without the public funding he still could have got that yacht on yeah absolutely and that's the thing you got that yacht i think it's just the timing of doing so or maybe you got to think how long does it take to build a yacht is this something new oh no no no it takes a minute to build a yacht exactly is this something new is this something that is probably

probably a couple

Yeah, so I mean,

you never know.

But that's the new thing, Ocho.

If you go back and look, look at these owners.

Jerry Jones has one.

Arthur Blank has one before he left.

Snyder has one.

That seemed to be a new thing because there was a tax going on, a tax cut, a tax break.

If you got a yacht, if you got a private jet, so you know.

You see what I'm getting at.

You and I don't know what that's like because I don't want to.

I know what it's like.

because I used to have a private jet before.

I used to have a mega yacht before, but I had to get, I had to get.

Say it takes four years to build a yacht, Ocho.

Now, now, this is a 200-footer.

So, I mean, a lot of them people got 300, 400.

I mean, I just saw some Russian billionaire.

He got one that's that's a football, that's length of a football field.

Yeah, can you imagine how big?

I can't even think.

My mind won't even wrap around that.

But look, I might have, I might, I would might would buy shares in a, in a, in a, in a PJ private jet.

I don't want no yacht.

I don't want no yacht.

You want no yacht?

No, hell no.

I don't like the water like that.

I don't need to take no bath.

Hey, look.

Hey, hey, listen.

Man, I had my feet kicked up, man, on my yacht, man, with my cigar,

man, relaxing.

Frankie, Beverly, and Maze playing in the background.

Talking to the man, get your

off that goddamn bow.

No, I want to

Come sit back here.

A jet?

Private jet, Ocho?

Yeah.

I want shares in a private jet.

I don't need but a couple of hundred dollars a year.

A couple of hundred hours a year.

Get me everywhere I need to go.

Yeah, huh?

I ain't going nowhere like that.

So you like to fly, you like to travel.

Oh, Joe, that's all you do.

Let me ask you a question.

How do you get from point A to point B?

I don't know, but I don't know if you noticed, but your company filed bankruptcy again.

Who?

The one that you fly all the time that you be talking about the

spirit airline?

I ain't call no name, Ocho.

We don't call names over here.

One thing we're not gonna do is we're not gonna talk about spirit airline.

I didn't talk about it

when it comes to chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Let's understand what chapter 11 means.

We're gonna be all right, and we ain't going nowhere.

And I'm not singing the song either, but we're gonna be all right.

We're gonna be tribute.

And so, yeah, I mean, like you said, Ocho,

it's just the optics of it.

I mean, it's like you, that's how I feel.

Chat, he out here buying all this new-ish, and he owe me $5,900.

What if I bought new?

I haven't bought anything new.

New place,

all right.

Look at them TV,

them iPads on the wall.

Hey, why you keep, hey, um,

I know, I know, chat, they might, hey, it look, it look really small, right?

Look at, you know, it's far away.

That's actually 60 yards.

I don't know about no 60 yards, but I know that's what you call them.

Now, look.

You can see me?

Yeah, I see you.

Let me tell you what I can't see.

5,900.

Hey, now that's that's like, that's like, it's like almost a football field here in the living room.

Yeah, hey

what

all right, don't you?

We're gonna end on this one.

It's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q and A.

I'm almost here.

Yeah, you got a cyber truck.

Did you get a cyber truck?

Huh?

Didn't you get a cyber truck?

Me?

Yeah, it's out there.

I ain't buy that.

My baby wrote that for me.

I know she's watching.

Hey, Boo Woo.

New baby, old baby.

Come on, man.

Come on, man.

Hey, get my money.

I got you.

I got you.

I got you.

Long.

Hey, listen, remember, long as I owe you, we ain't never.

You told me that before.

You ain't gave me my money yet.

I know, because the pool, the pool almost finished.

Soon as they finished the pool.

What do you got to do with my money?

I want to get a pool, too.

You can't even swim.

I can't swim.

You're too old to get in the water.

You got bad hips.

That's why I want to get in the jacuzzi.

I want to get the jacuzzi where it's nice and warm.

Erido is saying who has the best uniforms in the NFL and who has the worst uniforms in the NFL.

The worst is a team up in Jordan's hometown.

Who?

Cincinnati.

Our color rush, those color rush, all-white jersey with a white helmet.

That's the best.

That ain't y'all uniform.

That ain't y'all's standard uniform.

Oh, standard.

Okay.

I like the, I like the uh,

you know,

I like the Chargers.

Those powder blue.

Okay, that powder blue, nice boy.

That powder blue.

I can agree with you on that.

That powder blue is nice.

And you know who you have to.

You remember the Houston Oilers old powder blue to love your blue uniforms?

Yeah, with the

oil.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I like the Broncos.

You know what?

I like the Broncos, the OGs.

The blue and orange.

I ain't even got with a helmet.

The horse on the side.

Yeah.

Nah, this this was this one.

It had this logo on the side, but it was a different orange.

It had that logo on the side, but it was a lot of different.

The orange, yeah.

I know.

A different color of blue.

Kevin Norwood, Ocho, who are your top four Hurricane players?

Woo!

Sean Taylor, number one.

Ray Lewis, Ed Reed.

Oh, my goodness.

I mean, I can go Andre Johnson.

I can go Santana Moss, Roscoe Parrish, Andrew Rowe.

It's oh, it's so many.

I'm gonna go.

I'm gonna go with my dogs, though.

So, so, no, no, no Michael Irving, no Sap, no Cortez Kennedy, no Jay Boogie, Jerome Brown, none of them.

You know what?

Matter of fact, you don't even do it.

I'm gonna go and receivers.

Santana Moss, Andre Johnson.

I'm going my dog, Roscoe Parrish.

Give me another,

give me another receiver.

I'm tripping.

You got

Devin Hester.

What's the guy he played at?

He played at Indy.

Reggie Reggie.

Reggie Wayne.

I'm tripping.

Reggie Wayne.

Yep, that's my matter of fact, that's my five right there.

I mean, listen, you can go.

When it comes to U.M., you can go down every position

and it's nothing but dogs.

You can't even go wrong, but I'm going with all receivers.

Hell,

Jeremiah Love only got 14 touches, bro.

Why?

Jeremiah Love, who he play for?

You must be talking to me.

Did you talk about for the Kanes or something?

Because I'm missing something.

Notre Dame.

How many touches you want him to have?

Hey, that little receiver for Notre Dame face on?

Yeah.

See, She started off the game out the gate where they were featuring that boy.

He was nice.

Bill had 17 touchdowns, Austin.

10 for 33,

4 for 26.

I mean, it's kind of hard to get the running game going when you're behind.

Yeah.

And they really couldn't run the ball.

They had 28 rushes for 93 yards.

I mean,

that's not good.

So I don't really know

what you expect them to do.

OG underscore Thanos, what's up, Uncanocho?

Can Carson Beck be a high draft pick with a good season this year?

Anything's possible.

Yeah, matter of fact, he can be a good high draft pick if you beat the teams that you're supposed to beat.

Yep.

No, beat the teams you're not supposed to beat.

My bad.

That's what I meant to say.

I think they're going to be favored against a lot.

They're going to be favored a lot of games.

I think they might not be favored against Florida State.

It'll be close.

It might be a pick'em, or they might be favored by one or two.

But you're right, Ocho.

They're going to be favored damn near in every game because and a lot of their toughest games are at home.

So

they're going to really be favored.

But I think he can.

Chris Baller said, who y'all got tomorrow?

TCU

UNC.

Can't wait to see what Coach Belichick has planned.

Going with Bill all day.

Yeah.

Yeah,

look, we saw how Matt Patricia had Arch Manning head spinning.

Hey,

boy, hey, Matt Maddie had them boys playing.

He did.

And I always think, I think, like

when

pro coaches, former coaches come,

they have a decided advantage because

they're going to show some looks college these kids ain't never seen before.

And it's much easier, too, especially you have the personnel to be able to execute those looks.

Because if you ain't got the right players, you ain't be able to pull it off.

And the thing is, Ocho, is that how do I go back and study film?

I got to go back and look at film when Mike Patricia called defenses.

I got to go back that's in the nfl i gotta go look at when coach belichick called defenses that's in the nfl i ain't got no college tape on them right

so they do have an advantage why said my mom went back to school to get her teaching degree in her 50s never too old wazoo you're absolutely correct

that's right so when y'all see me at fam you fam you next year where at the at the end of football season

Look February, March, something around there.

Y'all find me in Tallahassee.

We'll be doing doing the show from there.

Jay Ones Cal said Jeron Sagaportelli is a lefty Cal quarterback from Hawaii that everyone has been talking about.

He beat out Ohio State transfer Devin Brown as a true freshman and has drawn comparisons to Touhey and Purdy.

Okay, we have to take a look at him, bro.

Tommy G, Notre Dame Cathedral is a 10 out of 10 experience.

Take your word for it.

I've never seen it before on television.

I've never seen it in person.

Pat Dubb said, week four, Packers versus the Cowboys, Bingles versus the Broncos.

Nightcap going to be rocking.

Y'all wear each other's jersey if y'all team lose.

Ocho and them losing.

I guarantee you we don't.

Y'all losing.

I guarantee we don't.

And I know one thing.

What?

Jamar Chase, I hope Pat.

I hope Pat.

Don't be with PS2.

I hope Pat Sert.

I hope you follow him all over the place because we done had our conversation on how to slice and dice him now.

So we good.

Reezy Rock said Cincinnati and Denver week one.

Who's losing?

Not the Broncos.

Well, not us either.

We divided.

Where ain't nobody losing then, okay?

And

all right.

And I've told you, we're putting up 55 points.

Troy Hughes said, did trading Michael Parsons to Green Bay just kill the Cowboys Super Bowl Hopes, or can Dallas still piece it together?

Bowl, hopes.

I didn't think they were going to the Super Bowl if they're kept.

If they kept him, what are we talking about?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I didn't see that whip, Michael.

So,

Elijah

says, just saw Lil Wayne.

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Who would you like to see live?

I sample Unc talking about how valuable his time is in a song called Myself.

Check it out.

Send it to Ocho and Ash.

Who would I like to see in concert?

He's passing, going on, but

who?

Who would you want to see in concert?

Prince, Michael, who?

Oh, Blue Eyes.

Oh, Frank Sinatra.

Yeah, man.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, Frank, boy.

I'm the type.

Frank would probably pull me on stage to come sing with him.

Can you imagine me and Frank Sinatra singing a duet?

No, I can't imagine that.

No, I couldn't imagine that.

Come

fly with me,

man.

Boy.

Yes.

Can y'all give a shout out to Deron Grimm for his birthday today.

Ocho, you inspired him a lot when he played college football.

Thank you.

Deron, happy birthday.

Hopefully, you had a great day.

Hopefully, you did something.

Got a great, got some gifts.

Got an opportunity to spend it with family, friends, and loved ones because that's what we do on our birthday.

We celebrate with those that we love and care deeply for and that care about us.

So happy birthday.

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Why y'all want me to be a Bartholomew?

Do I look like a Bartholomew?

You look like a Bartholomew, though.

It makes sense.

I like that.

You should change your name.

You should add that to your name in the course.

I like that.

Ask somebody you like an earl

me no me

i can see earl earl of pearl earla pearl sharp

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