Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Jason Garrett being SHOCKED by the Micah Parsons trade

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Former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett was shocked by the trading of Michael Parsons. I was shocked.
You know, the most important player on the football team is the quarterback.

The second most important player on the football team is the guy that can negatively affect the quarterback. And those guys are hard to come by.

Ever since that guy came into the league, he's been a dominant player. He's transformative.
He's changing the whole team. If you think about the Cowboys in 2020, they were 6-10.

They weren't a very good team. And then they get defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, and all of a sudden, they're a different team.

And if you look at all those interceptions that the DBs are making, Bland Diggs, they're intercepting them. The running backs for touchdowns and running them back for touchdowns.

You look at what's going on around the quarterback on those throws. Micah is the guy causing all the problems.
And those guys are hard to come by.

If you think about it, in four years, 52 sacks, he and Reggie White. being used in the same sentence, he's an impactful player.
I was shocked that they let him out of the building.

A lot of people are saying that. And a lot of people don't understand.
It was ego. It was the same ego that let Jimmy Johnson out of the building.
It was the same ego. Credit.

Credit. He's like, I found Michael Parsons.

I'll go find me another one.

Guess what? You found DeMarcus Ware and guess what you did? You let him out the building. And he go win the Super Bowl with the Broncos.

Now, I'm not saying Michael Parsons is going to go win a Super Bowl. That's what I'm saying.

But when you got a guy that's 26 years of age and he can hunt the quarterback like he can, everybody's looking. That's why Pittsburgh paid

TJ Watt at the age of 31 what they paid him. That's why Cleveland paid Miles Garrett, even though he had two years left on his contract, what they paid him.

They need guys that can hunt the quarterback and this guy can hunt the quarterback. Now, Egos got involved.
Egos on both sides.

Jerry felt that, you know, we had a handshake deal, even though he's not supposed to be negotiating with the player when he knows the player has an agent.

Michael felt he was disrespected. And I agree, and I can't say that I disagree with him because you're telling a guy, well, hey, we paid him last year and he missed time.
And now all of a sudden,

we can't stop the run and we can't do this. It's almost like everything that's going on defensively that's wrong with the Cowboys, he's putting it on Micah as the reason why.

And then you turn around and say, nah,

you're going to play on that fifth year option.

Micah said, no, I'm not. At all.

And look,

at that point in time, Ocho, you have to move him. But when you get two strong-minded individuals, obviously, Jerry is not going to bend.
He's made it abundantly clear. He runs things.

He does things his way. It served him well.
It's hurt him in certain instances.

But I'm surprised also, because guys like Michael Parson don't drop off trees.

They just don't. I mean, I was surprised that he lasted as long as he did because I watched him.
I saw him.

And I saw a guy that was sudden i saw a guy that was impactful i saw i saw a guy that jumped off the he jumped off the screen at you i said somebody no no he can play and then you watch him go to the combine and do what he did i said okay yeah he'll player because i want to watch watch him on tape watch him on the tv does he jump up yeah god damn he's sudden hey listen well let's see Let's see if he runs fast, OJo.

Let's see if he's explosive by jumping high. Let's see what type of short area quick does he have in the shoulder.
in the car

hey

michael parsons abdul carter

von miller

deep as the ends that are not tall not six five not six four and two whatever undersize got a nice toolbox got a nice motor

lateral movement very good with the hands

They all got something in common. Abdul Carter gonna be up next, huh?

He's going to be the next one. Watch.

Jerry, you built your team.

You had an undersized defense. The way you built your team is that you were supposed to score, get the lead.
They couldn't run, so you pin your ears back.

Now, when you turn the ball over and you don't race out to that big lead, now you got a big offensive line leaning on your underside defense.

Now you get guys running up and down the field on you. But when you get a Micah Parsons, ain't nobody said everything.
Nobody ever said, man, Derrick Thomas can't stop the run.

He's going to hunt your damn quarterback, though.

You go get the quarterback. As a matter of fact, I want you to play the run on the way to the quarterback.
Now, if they hand the ball to him and you head it to the quarterback, go ahead and tackle it.

But I want you to go get the quarterback. But you could see kind of where this was headed.
Jerry wants to prove a point that it's going to be my way or no way.

And then once he, and I don't think he left Micah much of a choice because

it seems to me that Michael was kind of hell-bent on not playing on that 21, they had a grievance file.

He was a linebacker. Linebacker is 24.

The defensive end is

21-5.

And so whatever the case may be, he didn't want to play on that number. And Jerry basically said, you're going to play on that number or you're going somewhere else.

He said, well, send me somewhere else, Dad. case closed and matter of fact and when i left you said you just got better you said while i was there you need to stop the run

so you went and got kenny clark

and then you permitted to say that we need to get better in the run not realizing who you play week one on thursday

so when the game come thursday and i can't wait the thursday night show Because the goddamn Eagles run their ass up and down the goddamn field

against the Cowboys,

Jerry again done put his foot in his goddamn mouth.

My thing is, Ocho,

I don't really see the need if we break up. I don't need to say anything negative about you.
Never will. Ever.

Because I didn't say that. All those things that I'm saying about you now, you were those exact same thing when I was walking around arm in arm and we were Kiki Ki and showing up to advance together.

You were all those things. You didn't do anything that caused us to break up that you weren't doing when we were together.
It seems to me,

whatever Jerry's saying about Micah now, did he just get that way in the offseason or had he been like that since you got him?

Now, pretty soon, stuff is going to start coming out. Probably he missed meetings and he was late to practice and he wasn't doing this.
It's going to come out. Watch what I tell you now.

Watch what I tell you. It kind of slipped out because he said something about jay-z about showing up to meetings and all this and stuff like that but it's it's some more stuff gonna come out

stuff

you never accept anything in a win you wouldn't have lost

yeah

and there are a lot of people that will accept as long as we winning well if you start losing if a guy missed meetings if a guy missed practice and you winning If you start to lose, why is it a problem?

You accepted it when you was winning. So why is it unacceptable when you're losing? That's why you don't accept things in a way and you wouldn't have lost because you're setting a bad precedent.

You're setting up you,

I'm telling you, you let guys start.

You guys come in overweight, oh, Joe, and they're a pound or two overweight, and you win. You're like, hey, don't worry about it, don't worry about it.

Sooner or later, that two pounds are going to turn to five, five is going to turn to ten. And then, when it comes, because guess what? Most places it do get cold,

and you don't lose weight as easily as when it's hot. Now, Miami might be a different situation.
Arizona, you know, some places like that.

But you start playing in New York, you play in Baltimore, you play in Cincinnati, you play a place where it gets cold, Ocho, and you're not running around like that,

it gets harder and harder. I think that's the best thing, one of the best lessons that Mike Shunahan told me, and it stuck with me.
And here we are, 30 plus years later.

84, I'll never accept anything in a win. I wasn't in a loss.
That effort that you gave me there,

that ain't it. I wouldn't accept, no.

The meeting, punctuality, and you can appreciate that. But like I said,

I got nothing bad to say.

Because a lot of things,

when you tolerated,

I'm going to go ahead and say my thing. Whatever transpired, I'll bite my tongue.
I'll be the bigger person. I'll walk away.
Hey, you right.

Because you know why, Ocho is low-hanging fruit.

You know how I know?

Because your boy, you looking at him, he's low-hanging fruit. And there are a lot of people taking your shot at your boy.

Y'all can have it. Y'all got it.
Y'all got me.

Yeah. It's all right.

It's okay.

It's okay.

We're going to be on no change.

That tribute say we're going to be all right. I could have told you that.
I could have told you that I've been telling you that.

Yeah.

Everybody want to pile on. Everybody jump on now.
Hey, we got him down, Ocho. We got him down.
The best time to, hey,

let me get my lick now.

Everybody want to get a lick now when your boy was doing good. Even here.

A lot of people that have a whole lot to say. Now everybody got something to say.

We're going to be all right. Ocho, former Panthers running back Mike Davis talked about his poor experience with Matt Rule in Carolina on Raw Room Podcast.
Damn.

Let's take a listen to what he had to say, Ocho. Bro, we did live goal line.
See Matt first day from injury, first day back from injury. That's crazy.
And

he get hollowed.

Damn.

He just walked out of the field.

I'm gone. I would have been gone.
That's what I'm saying. What he was doing.
And he was so mad. He was so mad.
He just walked out of the field. Why would that even be a scenario that he would be in?

It's his first day back. Why would I put him in the laundry? It was just

stuff like that that was going on, though.

It's not college. He thinks that's a college instance.

You know what I'm saying? And you know how, like,

I don't even think it was like OTAs, like phase one. You know what I'm saying? You know, we're supposed to be on the field.
We're doing like, supposed to do like walkthrough stuff.

You know what I'm saying? Even if we do running, it's kind of like 50%.

We was going 100%.

You know how bad it got to be for C-Mac to be like, hey, y'all, hey, all right, I'm going to say something because we're doing too much. That's crazy.

Wow. Well, that's a college coach.
Hey.

And,

you know, Coach Saban. Remember how Coach Saban was? How the guys say Coach Saban was when he got to Miami? Hey, but

they wouldn't move, though.

And boy, I'm talking about the veterans, the veterans, the veterans, certain stuff.

They didn't have a whole lot of those. they didn't have a whole lot of those very

and see mac was and c mac was young and he even said something

um

i mean if they look

practicing the guys like that when you're in college you get away with it ojo because the guy

you can tell an 18 19 20 year old something

That a 24, 25 year old guy would tune your ass out. You know why, Ocho? I'm already here.

You tell him an 18, 19-year-old kid, Hocho, something, 18, 19, 20-year-old kid, something, because he's trying to get somewhere. You got his undivided attention.
I'm 24, 25. I'm already here.

And, and I make more than you.

Especially when you're a whole lot of people.

Especially when you're already there and you put me in harm's way.

Now you put me in harm's way.

Why are we going 100 miles an hour on goal line?

Why am I just coming back from injury and you got me in going 100 miles an hour and then I get high low as soon as I get in there?

We were like, you go live, go live in training camp.

But you know, in training camp, you know, expect, hey, look, 907. Yeah.
Live. Goal line.
Yeah. Live.
Hey. All right.
Hey, you know, hey, hey, I batting down the hatch, Jocho.

I

tighten them shoulder pads up. It's live.
Okay, I expect that. I ain't expect no damn live go line during the season unless it's in the game.
Damn sure he expected that.

You know, training camps are different animal. I mean, we once had, we had what we call hell week in 94, Ocho.
We had 16 straight pract padded practices. Straight.

16.

16. Padded.
No, sir.

Hey, I would have had.

I ain't telling what somebody told me they had. I'm telling you what I know.
I'm telling you. I'm a few of those.
I would have had shells on, huh?

Bad. Oh, Joe, you know that third day now? You know that old man get in there.
You start walking still. It hurt to get up out of the bed.
You're like, man, what time is it? Man, it's two o'clock.

I think I can hold this P till seven. Damn.

Man, your knees hurt. Your hips hurt, oh Joe, your ankles.
Man,

I ain't trying to get up and walk on that cold ass floor and go to the bathroom. And my bathroom, we stayed in college dorms.

And the bathroom was right there because I just walk out and i'm in the bathroom but it hurt to get up man them i was like lord have mercy i remember mind you i don't forget now i was i was there for two days

i know what it's like i remember them days

man please

Oh man, there was some days, boy.

Hell yeah.

I mean, some people will never know what that's like, Ocho. Like I said, I don't know.
I haven't been to a training camp in a long time.

So I don't know if it's walkthroughs, if it's meetings in the afternoon. I don't know what it is.
I don't know how they do it.

You know, I think you can have on pass for like 13 practices during the season. I don't know.
We only put on pads on Thursday. We had on pass for like 12 plays.

Might have, we had passed for 12 plays, 907.

That was it. Then we come up out the pads.
Then we didn't have on pass. We didn't have on pads on Wednesday.
We didn't have on on pads after those 13 plays, 12, 13 plays, maybe 12.

It might have been like 9 or 10, whatever the case may be. If it was a good 907, you come up out of them.

And then Friday, obviously,

you didn't have on pads. Now,

Coach Reed,

we had on pads. We had on pads on, had on pads and shorts.
That was shells. Those were shells.

We won't old until about week 13, week 14.

No, sir.

That was the old school that was the old school days listen i had i had some days where i just didn't feel like wearing pads so i put my shells on and i obviously you know the dbs and the linebackers they'll be able to be able to tell the difference so you know there would be no obviously they know just just a touch below the hip

don't don't hit me

Yeah, don't hit me because

I let them know right away. I give one of them signals like this, tap my head, or I tap my shoulder pads, and they know.

All right, we got you.

Uh-uh.

Yeah.

Man, Mike wasn't playing that.

Come on, man. Look here.
I ain't trying to be out here all day.

Man, let's go ahead and make this thing look. Hey, 907, we got like eight plays, and I got like six of them.
Let's make it look good.

Let's make it look good for the camera, Ocho.

Hey, let's fire,

thud it up, and keep it moving. Because Michael started this Mofo.
You don't want that.

Hell no.

Man, Michael started over, and you go all the way back from stretching. Go back to stretch.

You should do pat on the back and do all the periods over again?

Oh, yes.

Absolutely not.

Okay, F around if you want to. Boy, Mike, they play that.

Man, hey, man, man, we

dropped two passes in a row. I dropped one, then Rod dropped one.
We might be on play eight. Start it over.
We started over.

Man, run that back.

My bad, guy. My bad.

My bad. Oh, man.

Derek Henry needs 1,317 yards, rushing to become one of the NFL top 10 rushers in his career.

The historic run with Lyft Henry from his current 19th spot, propel him past seven Hall of Fame running backs, Coacho.

You can see the list right there. I don't think anybody's going to get Emmett's record.
I think it's safe, but you see Walter Payton. You look at Frank Gore, Barry Sanders.

Barry Sanders, he did that in 10 years. So imagine averaging 1,520 yards.
That's crazy.

But anyway, you see Curtie Mart, LaDania,

JB. Man, it's funny.
I was in the league with Emmett, Barry,

Curtie Mart,

LT,

Bettus, Dickerson, Marshall,

Edgar.

I don't think I played against it. I did.
I did. Marcus,

Thurman, Fred, Steven. I don't think I was in the Cevh Jackson.
Damn.

I think he gets it. I say he going to be in the top 10.
I think he'll be in the top 10 by the time the season over with you. 1,300?

Yeah,

it's going to be the same culprits. It's going to be the same culprits that are going to have 1,300 plus this year.
Same ones.

And he's one of them.

Absolutely one of them.

I mean, think about it, Ocho.

He rushed for 12,000. He rushed for 12,000 in high school.
He broke Ken Hall's record.

of over 12,000. He's from Sugarland.

And this man had, Jerry Harry had like 4,000 yards rushing. Real deal.

So you think about it. Think about all the yards this man has rushed for.
12,000 in high school, another 12,000. He got a little over 11,000 now.
That's 20,000.

And he had, what, 2,000, 3,000 in the NFL? I mean, in college. He definitely.

And to be that durable and to be a collision back.

Yeah.

Yeah. Let me see.

We think about running backs having 1,300. I mean, that I know are going to have 1,300.

Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley.

Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, because they don't have a choice but to give him the ball.

Correct.

Josh Jacobs is going to be right there, fringy.

Aaron Jones, he'll hit 1,000. I don't know if he'll get the 1,300.

Yeah, he won't get 1,300.

He's more of a dual threat. He's more of a runner and a catcher.

Let me think. Who else? I said Josh Jacobs already, yeah.

C-MAC, what do you think about C-Mac? You think he'll be able to stay healthy all season long?

He's more of a dual threat. I can see him

close to 1,300, but he might have another 700 receiving.

I want to go with Bijan Robinson. I think

I see more like 11, maybe 1,100.

I want to say Kyron Williams, too, especially though, especially with him just getting paid over there in LA. But I think he's going to have to split carries with, I forgot who the backup is.

Yeah.

Man, Jim Brown, Jim Brown had

12,000 yards in nine seasons.

Is it with Jim Brown that good or was the level of competition that shitty?

He was, I mean, he had speed, power. You're talking about a guy that was 6'2 ⁇ , 230 pounds when the offensive lineman was like 240.

He was an MVP in his rookie season. I don't think we'll ever see an NFL MVP in his rookie season.

I don't think we'll see another NBA

MVP in his rookie season.

Like we saw where I think Will Chamberlain was an MVP and I think Wes Unsel was an MVP. I think Freddie Lynn in baseball was an MVP.
Jim Brown was an MVP. We're not going to see that anymore.

It was so long ago,

we're not going to see it. We're not going to see it.
But Derrick Henry, for him to be a collision back and to still be putting up the yards that he's putting up,

kind of like Adrian Peterson was a collision back. I mean, you think about Fray Gore with two repaired ACLs.
I think he had two ACL surgeons, maybe three. And he got six.

He's a third all-time leading rusher.

Hey, that's crazy. Just think about that.

I mean, think about that backfield. Clinton Porters, Frank Gore, Willis McGehee.

That was your backfill into you. And boy, we're loaded, boy.

Yep.

But stay Henry, King. Stay healthy, King Henry.

What year is this for King Henry? 11?

10 or 11.

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This is going to be 10.

Okay.

For him to, like I said, to be a collision back, to run to that kind of contact contact with the amount of carries that he's had.

Don't nobody want to hear a collision back, but don't nobody want to collide with him.

True. True.

That's a big boy.

Nebraska, Dylan Riola, became the center of a conversation on social media during his squad matchup, with many believing he's trying a little too hard to resemble Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes was also

on hand yesterday at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City when Riola, Corn Huskers, took on Cincinnati Bearcats. In the video booth, both arriving and Arrowhead went viral.

Many pointed out just how similar Riola looked to Mahomes, even down to what he chose to wear to the game.

Is that the center? Used to be from Detroit, son.

The quarterback from Nebraska, Dominique Riola.

Is that Dylan Riola? the court? Is that the center? I think he was a center for Detroit. Is that his dad? Is that his son?

There was a sinner.

It's his uncle?

No. Dominique.

Yeah, that's stuck.

Damn. I'm getting that.
That's his son?

Yeah, he is. Listen,

if there's a person you want to replicate, there's a person you want to emulate, and you want to be like,

shoot, he doing, he replicating the right person.

I mean, he can't help. I mean, maybe, I mean, from the gear, the outfit, but he can't help if he look like him.
Damn. Only that, but copy him.

Copy him. Everything he does.
Why not? There could be worse people, worse person. There could be a worse people you can emulate.
Yeah. Yeah.

I like it. Yeah, look at it.
Hey, from A, from his mechanics, his throwing motion,

he be doing all this too. Like Mahomes be doing, whenever we want to play, he got everything down.

The whole nine yards.

Well, damn, they mad. I guess they were mad at Kobe when he tried to be like George.

He walked like him, he talked like him, he had everything copied everything down to the elbow, to the uh the knee sleeve pulled down over his calf.

Damn, and there's no, they're worse people you can emulate. That's the reason why Kobe is one of the greatest of all time ever.

Um, maybe uh

Nominee Rail says, Sir, Kobe, well, maybe I can give me a couple of years like that. Oh, Joe, Jeremy Lynn finally retired today.
What NFL version of it, Lynn's Sanity, Tebow. Now,

you think, well, Teebo,

Lin Sanity. You said

it was the NFL version of Lynn Sanity.

Tebow.

Do you remember Lynn Sandy when he was with the Knicks? I remember. He was going crazy.
Okay.

Yeah.

And Tebow, when he went to Broncos that one season, he got to the playoffs.

And then he had to quit. Demarius Tom.

I mean, the stick.

Yeah, the slam. Yeah.

Yeah, that's Lynn Sander.

Okay.

Did Lynn Sander do anything anywhere else he went? Oh, he was all right now, but the Lakers, too. Now, don't do that.

He had a little shine with the Lakers too, now.

So, who would be the NFL version of Lim Sanity then? I said, Tebow, you.

I'm not disagreeing. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just,

I mean,

but I'm trying to say this, and I don't want to be disrespectful.

Go ahead.

No, you know, I'm not going to, you know what? My grandma always told me, if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all. I don't want to talk about nobody's game.

What game? What are you going to say?

What was

Jeremy Lynn's weakness? Because everyone thought Tim Tebow's weakness was his inability to do

consistently through the football. So

I just,

when you compare it,

I'm kind of nitpicking at the comparison.

I'm talking about the aura because Lynn's sanity didn't happen in L.A.

It didn't happen anywhere else but New York.

And I'm saying T-Boyism, and maybe people say he didn't get a fair chance or whatever the case may be, but it was only in Denver for that brief period of time.

It was special. Remember, you know what else is special?

Cleveland.

This young fella played running back.

Matter of fact, his season was so good, he ended up on the cover of Madden.

Oh, you're talking about Peyton Hillis? There you go. Yeah.

I kind of like that comparison better because I don't know what Peyton Hillis came out of nowhere, boy, that season. I forgot what year that was.

Oh my, but you got to realize he was in the same backfield with Lewis. No,

no, no, no, no, no, no. He went to Arkansas.

McFadden and the guy that went to the first round picked the cowboy.

They were in the backfield together, yes.

What was the other guy named the running back? He got drafted the first round. He went to Dallas.

Dallas.

Had to be like oh mc murray murray something demarco murray no

no demarco murray's from oklahoma

darren mcfadden replaced demarco murray

mcfadden got drafted by the uh uh the raiders i think at eight what was the other guy named chad what's his name he played for the cowboys

yes not marry

felix jones Felix Jones.

Felix Jones.

Wait, all three of them was on the same team?

Yep. Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis.

Derry McFladden. God damn, that's a crazy.

They drafted him two spots before Chris Johnson. Remember, Chris Johnson went to the Titans.
Okay, okay.

But they also took, you know, Jerry does a great job. He took Taco Charlton.

He left TJ Watt on the board. But Jerry's great at this thing now.

Don't let Jerry fool. He did say he's the best person to run the team, huh?

Let me ask you a question. Dale Hansen said something.
He was a former reporter. He's a former

in Dallas. He asked Jerry, say, Jerry, in any other sport, name another team that would hire you to be their general manager.
That's if you could tell if somebody good about Ocho.

Would somebody hire you with another team?

If you got fired, name a team in the NFL, name a team in MLB. Name a team in the NBA that would draft you to pick player for them.

Ain't happening.

Ain't happening, Captain.

Hey, listen.

He might miss a lot, but he got a few good ones now.

We got a few, especially when it comes to that 88.

He got he got a string of 88s he put together.

Well, Ocho, you got to think about it.

He had no choice, they were gone. Hold on, did he did CD go before or after Jefferson?

I think he went after, right?

Because Juka, you got to think about it. Judy had already been going off the board, Jalen Waddell was already going off the board.

Yeah, it went the wide receiver to the Ruggs first. Henry Ruggs, then Jared Judy, then CD,

then Rager, then Justice. Okay.
Wait, hold on. All that went before JJ?

Yep.

Man, let me go get in the scouting department, man.

Hey,

hey, you know, oh Joe, man, you know when Henry Ruggs went to the combine he ran 4-2. You know what that do.

And Jew had already won. He won the Balitnikov ward as a sophomore,

saucing people up so you could understand that. Well, hold up, man.
Justin Jefferson, people didn't want to give Justin Jefferson no credit because it's like, well, he was with Joe Burrow.

He had Chase. He had this and that.
Okay.

Turns out he just have been the best receiver in that draft class. And CD's been phenomenal.
But JJ's been better.

So.

But I like that. I like the Peyton Hills in Cleveland.
I like Tebow in Denver. Lent to a comparable

NFL comparison to Lynn Sanity. Chad, what y'all think?

Former Buccaneers, now free agent Shiloh Sanders was fined $4,669 for unnecessary roughness in the preseason game and the

Tampa final preseason game, Ocho, versus the Bill.

He ain't made that. He got it, though.

He owe the NFL. He good.

He got it. Nah.

Oh, he got it. He good.

They took the man last check, Ocho. Nah, he good.

Did he? Uh, did he get resigned? Did anybody sign him? Did they re-sign him to the practice squad? No, because remember, they bought another another safety.

Yeah.

Well, damn. I was reading that he was doing good, and next thing you know, he not.

Damn.

I was sure hope he can squeeze out a year. Yeah.

Get a little better.

Somebody might pick him up still.

Yeah, you know what, Ojo? Like,

I kind of like want to, because I've been in OTAs. I've been in mini camps.
I've been in training camps. I kind of know this system.

So I want to hit the ground running because I already got a head start. I don't want to have to learn the system all over again.
I'm thinking,

I'm hesitating. I don't know.
Like, son, get,

I mean, you got to do what you got to do. I mean, hey, you don't have a job and somebody gives you an opportunity.
Hey, I got to learn on the fly.

It's not what I'm used to doing, but I'm a fast learner.

And that's why you have to look at it.

Shiloh said this week that he plans to get into music, acting, modeling after being waived.

Whatever he decides to do, I hope it works out for him.

You know,

it's always nice to have backup plans.

You always got to have a plan B.

Always got to have a plan B.

I ain't going to lie with you. I ain't have no plan B.

No.

You ain't had no choice but to make it. I put all my eggs in one basket and pray I didn't slip on the way to the market to mess up the profit.
That's a good one. I like that.
I like that.

I'm just being 100 with you. And I'm glad I went to a perfect situation.
I went to a situation, and people ask me this all the time. Shannon, you think? No.
Nope.

I went to a team, one of the three teams in the NFL that had the H-back position.

I went to a coach that saw how hard I worked in practice, even though I didn't know a whole lot, but he saw how hard I worked. And

I never really played special team, but hey, son, can you play gunner? What's a gunner? I didn't know what no damn gunner was. He's like, you got a line out there.

When we punt the ball, you line out there. And you got to go.
When they snap the ball, you can take off.

I like, I ain't never done it, it but i tried yeah

boom you ever play kickoff return son no sir what i do am i returning the ball i said coach i ain't never ran the ball back i mean no you up here blocking oh okay i'll i'll do it you ever play kickoff no what what i i mean i gotta go down i'm gonna down there and tackle somebody like yeah i said where i line up at you know i'm at i

They asking me these questions, don't you? I don't know.

Where do I line up? Where we want you to be, you know, you line up. I'm under three.
So what I do, okay, this is your, you know, you on the numbers.

You got everything, anything that comes to the numbers. And, you know, you see the guy coming away, you try to knife it from the backside.

Okay.

Then I had a quarterback. For some reason, he took a liking to me.

I don't know why. He was patient.
When I was running the wrong routes,

he never showed me up. He's like,

and when I did something good,

he would always tell me, That's like you.

He said, You got ability. You can play in this league.
You just need to apply yourself. And that gave me so much confidence that he,

an MVP, a Pro Bowl player, telling a kid from Savannah State that I could play in this league and I got talent.

I got a coach that says, Hey, we're going to find a place for you.

I got a quarterback that believed in me.

Please. That's all I needed to hear, Ocho.

I believed I could play, but you know what, Ocho? But to hear,

you know, Spank telling me, hey, you can do it. Hey.
Hey.

Remember, hey, you remember you went to blah, blah, blah. Man, but when John told me that I could play in this league and I could be special, he told me I could be special.
Ocho.

Hey, that reassurance do something to you, especially depending on who you hear from.

If you hear from

the right person,

a seventh-round pick, Ocho, from HBCU, and the quarterback that just came off the Super Bowl said, you can be special.

Boy, you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple. I'm talking about a nice, shiny one, too.

Man, please.

It takes hearing stuff like that from the right person at the right time.

It makes a difference.

It makes a difference

uh

whoo it'll work out oh cho veteran wide receik receiver marquez valdez gantling explains why he signed with the 49ers over the steelers It was between here and Pittsburgh, obviously.

I have a good relationship with Aaron Rodgers over there, and he wanted me back over there, so it was a toss-up 50-50.

Had to weigh my options to see which one wanted to do, which is going to be better for my career at this point. I was excited about it.

What you think, Ocho? He picked the 49ers instead.

Yep. I mean,

I don't want to read too much into it. He said he had a good relationship.

He played with Aaron, didn't he?

In Green Bay? Yeah. Yeah.

I think he's getting more opportunities down there in in San Francisco. IU Kurt.

Ricky Purcell is there.

Jawan Jennings. Obviously, Marquez Valdez.

It ain't like they loaded in Pittsburgh. They got DK,

Calvin Austin, the third. Come on now.

They throw the ball more over there in San Francisco, huh?

They throw the ball way more. I'm not sure what the offense is going to look like in Pittsburgh,

but they finna let that thing fly over there in San Francisco.

Yeah,

well, not as you mentioned, I mean, he played a number of years with Aaron, but hey, he said at this point in time in his career, he felt he'd be better served in San Fran. So he's in San Fran.

And honor of College Football Week, Ocho, do you remember your first college football game? Oh, whoa.

Damn.

Oh, you talking about Oregon State? You talking about Juco? What are we talking about here? Juco, I definitely don't remember. Oregon State, I forgot who we played week one.

So you don't remember? I don't.

I don't. Hey, Chad, can somebody look that up for you? Oh, yo,

man, Chad, y'all already this man said, this man said, we asked you, do you remember your first college football game? This man said, I don't remember who we played at Oregon State.

So therefore, one would assume or deduce from that statement. Oregon Oregon State 2000, the year we went to the festival.

We asked you.

I don't know. I can't remember.
That's 26 years ago.

That's 26 years ago. Who the Oregon State played? 26 years ago, not 2,600 years ago.
It's about the same.

I don't remember anything after five years.

We played Boy State.

Boy State. Y'all won?

We won, Ocho. What you did?

I caught a bomb and got walked down at the one.

Ocho, it was embarrassing, Ocho.

Oh,

I caught a bomb. It might have been, I don't know, it might have been like 40, 50 yards.
Might have been, I don't know, 36. It was 36, 40.
It was a long one. I got caught at the one, Ocho.

Damn, wait, wait, wait. How you got caught? The safety safety of the corner.

I don't know what it was, Ocho. It felt like I was, oh, you're, I just remember I run it.
I ran a gold ball on him. I ran,

and you know, he was, he thought, I guess he thought I was going to do something else. I nodded him in.

He turned inside, and then I got on top of him. Quarterback threw it.
I'm just running. I'm like, damn.

Oh, Joe, you ever been out there thinking like, damn, this ball taking a long time to get down? Will you hurry up and cut that? Damn, rainball.

Yeah, I I thought he pointed it.

But anyway, I brought it.

Oh, Joe, I caught it. And I was so excited.
I'm like,

my first college catch. I'm about to get touched up.

Damn. Hey, now I'm mad.
I'm trying to, I want to know who we played.

My first game at Oregon State in year 2000. I want to know how.

Same thing. Caught my first college, my first pass in the NFL.
Played the Pittsburgh. I think we played.
Who did we? My first catch. The first game we played with the Raiders.

I think the first pass that I caught was against the Steelers. I think I caught it on Delton Hall.
Ocho.

Down to the one. Again?

Damn.

I had bad luck, Ocho. Man, I caught a pass against the Steelers.
I laid out. John throwed it, Ocho.
I'm talking about parallel. Catch it.
They don't touch me down.

I get up, running it, I cut break back call.

So I got the ball in my left hand. I'm still farming, dude, like this here.
Dude, hit me in the back. I fumble the ball in the end zone.
My teammate jump over to get a touch.

I did. I said, damn.

Damn. Hey, that's what.

But I hope you all had some bad luck, man. I suppose I had a benefit and had a 200-yard game.
I had a 120-something-yard game against Minnesota.

I get a false start penalty, Ocho. I catch it.
I catch a catcher like a little in

Ocho. I come out the backside.

They push me out of the five. I gained like 70.

They brought it all the way back.

Illegal motion on me.

Damn, oh, hey, I mean,

I could look at a picture, I could look at a card, and I can tell you the game that I was in.

Hey, you know, I could do that, I could do that too, my card, because I wore something different, a different helmet, my socks, my cleats, something was always different, and I'm able to

tell exactly what game it was.

That's crazy. Oh, they

said my first game was Eastern Michigan.

Y'all win or lose? I I don't know. Hey, chat, what I did against Eastern Michigan in that first game.

You had one catch for four yards?

Shit, me. That's that's a lie.
The devil is a lie.

So I had one catch and four yards. No, it was Eastern Washington.
What were my stats?

Damn, I only had one catch before y'all, for real?

I know they weren't talking about me because I told you.

We played Booy State, 1986, Savannah State. I think I had a bomb.
I caught a bomb, oh Joe, and I got tackled at the one. I don't know how far it was.
Chad, how far was it? If you can find it,

Damn. Hey, hold on.
They shake one cast for negative four yards.

You had negative four,

wait a minute. Damn.

Were you playing on August Day or you playing with Easter Washington? I don't know what, though.

I don't know what happened that game. Well, I wish I had the schedule.
If I played, if it was that bad, well, I'm going

nah, something ain't right.

Well, ask Chat GPT, Ash,

Savannah State, my first game, first game against Booz State.

Oh, yeah, I did have one for four. I must

minus four.

Stop trying to add. You tried to add anything.
He said minus four, too. And who we played after that? I mean, I can't even remember.
College, at what point did I?

I don't know. Outcho, we're not going to the second game.
We asked you about the first game. Yeah, I mean, at some point, I had to start cutting up.
Hey, because I was hella at Oregon State, boy.

I had me a good old time. You got to remember, I was a one-for-one, huh? That was it.
This is my time to shine on the big stage.

Who was 30

yards per catch? How many yards per catch you average, Ocho? You'll see

one year.

You have a thousand that year? I ate some, eight, and some change.

I don't want

they got my stats but oh choose one catch for one yard and one carry for that game four oh cho you had one catch for one yard they caught damn why they even throw you the ball

and then you had one carry for by the score

hey hey we had we had we had a we had a nice score too uh

we had a nice score

I'm gonna get my stats. I know I had one catch.

And I know it was

21.6 yards per catch.

Yeah. Who you?

Because

I averaged 21.2 my senior year. I had 61 catches for 1,312 yards or 18 tubs.

In nine games.

I'm going to go ahead and put that out there for you, Ocho.

In nine.

Had three 200-yard games.

Damn. Hey, I think Oregon State playing right now.
I think we're losing too.

Well, I know y'all lost that first game with them stats you put up.

We won. We won.
Remember, we didn't lose. We were undefeated until we played UW.
We lost UW by a field goal. And we played in the Fiesta Bowl.

We were undefeated, though. I think.

Y'all beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta. 41-9.

41-9.

Where your ring at? I lost it.

I lost it.

Ocho, what if it's in that storage unit? You won't get it back.

It might be worth something.

I'm good.

Good. I don't need it.

All right, Ocho. Start bench cut, Florida wide receivers, high school careers.
Michael Irvin, Andre Johnson, Anquan Boulder. Woo!

Okay. Irvin was an all-state selection the senior season, had just done a thousand yards, 12 touchdowns in 1983.

As a senior, Johnson caught 32 passes, 939 yards, 931 yards, and was named Parade All-American. Anquan was Mr.

Football in the state of Florida, became the first player in Florida high school history to go over 11,000 yards in his prep career. Well,

I know who we keep it.

But Q was a quarterback.

They they moved into wide receiver at florida state

i see hey listen i see i seen uh on you said andre johnson right

i seen dre play i've seen dre play at miami high man dre was the real deal

i mean almost he averaged damn near 30 yards a kid the real deal you know who else went to miami high remember roscoe parrish

Roscoe Parrish went to the high too.

He played it, he was at Cleveland. Didn't he play at Cleveland? Roscoe was at at Buffalo.

You know what you're right, Ocho, because I remember he had scored.

I was doing the highlights at CBS, and Roscoe, he scored a touchdown. I said, Roscoe,

you know, because Roscoe

on the Deuce of Hazard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But no, Q. Q was Mr.
Football in the state of Florida. If you missed the football in the state of California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Ohio, yeah, you that boy.

Now,

there's some state A.

You missed the football in Montana, I'm sorry. Oh, you missed the football in Wyoming, Ocho, I'm sorry.

But if you, especially the big California, Texas, Florida, and Georgia,

If you missed the football in one of those both, now

those are the big four. Now we'll throw louisiana we'll throw ohio in there you know a couple of but the big four

georgia florida texas cali

you did something i mean you you you you really done something all right oh joe we will get you out here on this one final segment of the evening it's time for q and hey hey

hey chat

chat The chat should be very excited because what time is it right now?

What time is it on the East Coast?

Almost 1.20. Okay.
I got about eight more hours. Arsenal, Arsenal, play Liverpool.

Oh.

Yeah, I'm going to be asleep.

Kevin Norwood Jr. said, man, how you feeling after Texas loss? I was pulling for Texas, but it just didn't work out.

Man,

look, I wanted, I liked Sark, but I wasn't like I'm going to lose any sleep. I'm going to give me a good night's sleep.
Damn, I don't care who lost today.

Man, we got beat too hell i'm gonna sleep savannah state lost

we got the brace beat off hell yeah i think

he lost to howard 10 to 9

yeah

burns coaching at howard man i think we lost like 41 14.

who y'all played

i think edward waters

edward waters in jacksonville right well that's it that's a small hbcu huh

i guess no stuff we did look all these schools that's having they that beat Savannah State just know y'all ain't do nothing when I was there.

I don't know what's happening now, but I'm just saying when I was there. So all y'all talking, y'all be jumping in my cup, jumping and chatting about we beat y'all, we beat y'all.

Not when I was there.

Ford Valley, all Benny, Morehouse, Tuskegee, all y'all talking. Stop.

The only one that can brag is Alabama AM because I never beat them in three years, my four years. We played lost to them all three times.
So everybody else,

don't make me pull the tape out. You still got that VHS tape?

Nah, I think Basil. I think Poe got it.

More house, Mo Brown, Clark,

Ford Valley, Skee, Albany State. You gave everybody that word? I don't want to hear y'all say nothing.

I got to see the film.

Ocho, it was. I know.
I got to see the film because you might be giving me that Al Bundy story.

nah bro bro

so think about it if i did what i did in the nfl what you think i did at hbcu

i mean

i was the same size you do realize i was 225 pounds as a senior

see the footage

but i was cutting up

i was cutting up

Adam Smith said, Arch Manning played like hard garbage. He cost his team the game.
Not saying he can't improve, but this is his third year at Texas. I know something when he couldn't beat Quinn Ewers.

Fans blame Stark play calling, but he was protecting Arch in his play calling because he looked terrible. Defense kept him in it, gave Arch a chance.

Right to the wrong, but he blew it. I blame sports analysts, especially Paul Feinbaum, said Arch is the best quarterback since Tim Tebow.

Bro, do you realize how many quarterbacks have been better? Cam, Joe Burrow,

Andrew Luck,

Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray. You purposely didn't say any of them names now.

He's the best.

The Lord have mercy. Jeez.

Bryce Young?

Lord, have mercy. Damn.

Now you know.

Yeah.

Well, Bitch Young was before Tebow. Tebow came out in what, 2009.
So every quarterback from basically 2010,

he said Archie Manning is better. So he's better than Cam, better than Andrew Luck, better than Joe Burrow.

Come on now. Now you made me take my glasses off.

Better than Baker Mayfield, better than Kyler Murray. Bro,

Bryce Young.

Yes, look, he's in his third year, but this is really only like it.

This, he's really like a freshman because he only started like four games and he's playing, he's starting against teams that, you know, it doesn't matter who's the quarterback, Texas was going to win those games.

So now he's starting, and they're going to be meaningful games. They're going to have to go, you know.

What's Texas schedule looking like?

Are they still doing the Red River rivalry? Yeah. Okay.
So you got Oklahoma.

So you got

three crowd games. San Jose, Utah, Santapista.
Then they got Florida, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Mississippi, Bandy, Georgia, Arkansas, and

yeah.

So we'll find out a lot about them. They got Georgia.
I mean, they got some games they should win. They got three games, Ocho, they should win easily.

Hell, you or I could be quarterback, and we'd probably win those games with me or you or I at quarterback.

But, you know, they got Georgia, Georgia, they got AM on their schedule, they got some, you know,

Florida, Oklahoma. So we'll find out a little more.

Dragon the

abandoner. Forget Arch.
This freshman at Cal,

this freshman quarterback at Cal is insane. Who did Cal, wait, first of all, who did Cal play today?

He said he's insane, so I guess.

I need to know who they play first before we think he's insane based on the competition he had to play against.

Pull it up.

We're trying to pull it up to see what this quarterback at Cal that everybody be talking that he's that

dragon

is talking about.

He better through for 500, at least 500

and they're playing in Oregon State. Oh, yeah.

Oh, they're playing your team. They play Oregon State.

How many yards even though for 80?

Oh, sure,

they cooking y'all.

That's the

quarterback.

31 to 9. 31 to 9.
Y'all losing.

They got a whole lot. Y'all lose.
That's all because it's week one. That's all.

It's week one for them, too.

So it's like if y'all week one for y'all, it is week 10 for everybody.

Ain't losing no more games this year. I can tell you that.

Probably not going to win anymore either.

Big Mike said, Uncle respect. Winners going to win.
That's what we do, bro. That's what we do.
Truth Speaks 101 said, Uncle I believe the NFL is coming for Coach Prime Son.

I think the thing is, guys, is that we got to realize

his son's not him.

I think we want Shiloh to be the equivalent of his dad at safety. We want Shadur to be the equivalent of his dad at quarterback.
And it's just not going to happen.

It's just not going to.

The Lord has really never blessed anybody that the father and son was, you know,

maybe

Bobby Hull and Brett Hull.

But for the most part, you're not going to get Barry Bonds Jr. and Barry Bonds Sr.

being here. King Griffey Jr.
and Queen Griffey Sr. You're not going get that, guys.
It's difficult.

Yes.

Do y'all understand? Do y'all are so God? Did you just want God to just like just dump all the talent? Hey, this family here, y'all just here. Just take it,

brothers, possibly.

But father, son?

So y'all guess y'all expect Brady's son to be the equivalent of him, huh? That's a lot of pressure

man come on

i go pick me another sport

i ain't playing football if i do play football damn sure ain't playing quarterback

uh the john dolly said who's gonna have a better season between bryce underwood and arch manning

i mean

It's gonna be

I'm gonna have to watch the young man play.

Bucket called me and told me that he was playing pretty well, but I was kind of focused on the game that we're going to talk about.

There'll be a time that we're going to talk about the young man, and so I'll make sure I pay attention to him because I don't want to say, well, he yada, yada, yada, and not having seen anything that he's done, Ocho.

So I apologize for that chat. But Ocho and I take a look at him in the coming weeks because obviously we're going to talk about him when they play Ohio State.

But we want to have a discussion about him before we get to that point. So sorry, I can't even give you a fair assessment of who's going to have a better season.

season i watched arch i have not seen bryce underwood but i'll get back

yeah

uh fans nj said oh joe did carson palmer ever call you out uh yeah hell yeah i told a story on here uh remember i told you we were playing um we were playing the steelers

and i think a ball um

forgot what it was

ball might have been too far somewhere and i couldn't get to it and i took my chin strap and snapped it, walking back to the huddle.

Man, Carson was like, if you ever motherfucker show me up like that again, you'll never get another motherfucking ball.

That's what he thought.

He knew the camera, he knew the camera was on me.

Yeah.

That was one time we never, we never. John, we never had all that, all that stuff like this.
All your hands up and all that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I really, I really, I really, I really did that, though. I really did.
That one time, I was hot.

I was trying to get that ball, boy.

Oh, Joe, which team would win if they played against each other? 2016 Chino Hills,

Jello, Mello, and Lonzo, or 2020 Mont Verde Academy. Who's on the 2020 Mont Verde team?

And he got a question. If you put Miami's 2001 Miami defense and

that defense,

how many games Jalen Duran, Ryan Nimhard,

Jalen Hood Scofino.

Wow. Who was it? Who on there?

Chino Hill's team was Lonzo, Melo, and Jello

against Jalen Duran,

Ryan Nimhard,

and Jalen Hood Scoffino.

If you put the 2001 Miami's defense and the 2019 LSU offense on one team, how many NFL games could they win? Zero.

If they're in the NFL?

Are you talking about the college? Zero.

Zero. Bro, y'all got to.

Oh, Joe, we're not going to have this conversation, man. I'm not going to get my blood pressure up.
Because people actually think that a college team... okay

had a chance in hell

oj og uh underscore thato said is kalen deboer already on the hot seat in the second year absolutely

oh cho

that's alabama they played florida state

oh choose that man has lost four to four unranked teams in two years

coach saber ain't lose that many in two decades. I mean.

Oh, you have to understand. And

what do they have at Alabama?

The standard is a standard.

I understand that. I understand that.

Jay1 Cal said, how great would Georgia be if they had both Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams?

They thought about,

I think Ryan Smith thought about going to Ohio State, didn't he? I thought him and Jeremiah thought about teaming up, and then at the last second, he ended up going to Alabama.

Oh, both of them jokers on the same team,

yeah.

Where is the quarterback from? Who's the quarterback? That's the problem,

yeah.

Oh, Joe, MSQ said, How did both the Mavericks and the Cowboys manage to trade away Luca and Micah in the same year? Got a field for Dallas.

Well,

hey, I don't know,

but look, if AD can stay healthy, they did get Cooper flag with the number one overall pick.

Kyrie probably not going to come back until after

in 2026, so maybe January, February, if he plays this season. Kyrie's going to want to be healthy.

And so, and I understand that, but

Luca, no Michaels. I think

Luca is more of a, if I had to say, more of a transcendent,

generational,

transformative player.

Guys like Luca don't come around, man. Come on.

I mean, Micah is maybe,

no, maybe. Micah is a top three or four player at his position.
Luca is a top five player in the NBA,

Regardless of position.

Skeezy CA said, who wins a wrestling match, Unk or Ocho?

Ocho, you don't know how to wrestle? Unk. I trained with Khabib for two years, man.
I trained with Khabib when he was preparing for Conor McGregor. What are you talking about?

Man, Ocho, I angle pick you and it's over.

But I put you in the guillotine and choke you out. out, Unc Man, don't do that, man.
This is what I do. Ocho, you can't told nobody out in the wrestling.
I said wrestling, not MMA wrestling. Oh, okay.

Oh, my bad, my bad. Because that McGround game is phenomenal.
My ground, you know,

I'm just.

Ocho.

Ocho, I will pin you, Ocho.

Brody White said, Uh, what made you hop on the phone and call the National Guard? Call the fans in New England was being unruly.

We were beating the brakes off them, too. And,

you know, we had come out of the game. We was up ahead.
I think it was like, probably like 10 minutes in the ballgame. We were up like 31 to 7 or something.
And Mike said, that's it.

And it was like, sharp, Colts is better than you. At the time, Ben Colts was on the, it was

on the Patriots.

And Ben and I was, you know, like I said, I had known Ben since college. I was, he was the only person that I showed around on a visit when they came to Savannah State.

I recommend that he not come if he wanted to play his freshman season. And so he ended up going to Livingston.
And Coach David said, damn, Holmes, I ain't going to have you show nobody around.

You got them going someplace else. I said, Coach, I couldn't lie to him.
I said, Coach, are you going to move me to tight end? He said, yes. I said, do you think he could beat me out? No.

But he said, lie to him.

We got to get good players. So, my bad.

I ain't no.

So the fans were, they were all on me saying Coach was better than me and that we were beating him. So I was like, you know what?

I just picked up the phone. It just, the red phone, because you already heard that the president had a red phone.
Ain't nobody ever seen it, but they said the president got a red phone.

I'm like, damn. So I was like, hey, red phone.
All the phones on the bench is red, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? The bitch is red.

So I just like, hey, just pick the phone up and I hung the phone up. And it rang back.

That's what really sold it, Ocho. I was like, Prince Chair, like I was talking to, Mr.
President, Hey, we need as many men as you can spare because we are killing the Patriots.

So I need you to call these dogs off, please. So I hung the phone up, say, hey, help is on the way.
And then the phone rings back, and NFL films capture that moment. And it was, it blew up from there.

They weren't very pleased with it. Mr.
Kraft told me he said he wasn't very happy with me at that time. Lauren said, finishing up with the Cowboys documentary.

It crystallizes everything you've been saying about Jerry Unk. Enlighten the chat.
What else you guys may know?

I don't know too much.

I just know Jerry. I just know Jerry is Jerry.

I don't know.

Creatures are.

They do what they do.

Eagles and falcons, offspring. They're birds of prey.
What do they do? Oh, they're going to hunt. That's what they're going to do.
They're going to hunt.

And you can't break them of that habit.

Jerry has been who he's been. You're not going to break him of that habit.

He just said he wished he had done things differently and la la la. And come to find out at the end of the day.

This is who Jerry is. It served him well.
In business, it served him well. He's wealthy beyond.

There's worth $12, $13, $14, I don't know, $15 billion,

way more money than he'll spend in his kids, kids, kids. I mean, kids, kids, kids, kids won't be able to spend all the money.

But this is Jerry.

Finn J says Shanna Bartholomew Sharp, Uncle Rico.

Law said, referring back to the topic about people staying together for the kids. You're right, Unc.
And it's our people for show.

I'm trying to grow together when I feel like she's continuously trying to grow apart. Any advice? Bro,

you don't want no advice from me about women.

I can't. I can't.
Next year. No, no, no, Joe,

I need about 18 months. Give me 18 months, Ocho, and I'm back.
You know, right now they revoked my license.

Oh, Joe, they took a license. They took my marriage license.
I had a license. I was constantly coaching.
You good. You're good.
Listen.

Give me 18 months, chat. That's too long.
That's too long.

That's too long.

Okay, next year. What about next year this time? Next year.

Okay. Okay.
Okay. 2026.
2026. We started a new year.
Yep. You can say whatever you want.

Yep.

Yeah, but right now, Brad, now Lawrence, I get it. You know,

but, you know. They took my license right now, and I don't want to get them.
I'm trying to get them back. So 2026, I'm going to have my license back.
So anybody that need to need some advice. Now,

OJo,

you know, I can't practice publicly, but if you come over,

I'll offer you some

advice.

Lucky Lucas say, don't sleep on Jerry Lynn. He earned over $65 million in a nine-year career.
Also has a lucrative endorsement deals. New York will always love Jeremy Lynn.
Respect.

No question about it. No question about it.

Tebow parlayed that. He has a gig at, I think he still does ESPN.
He does a lot of charitable work.

Peyton Hillis, I don't know if Peyton Hills was on the cover, held out for contract, and it just never materialized after that. But yeah, I mean,

the guy went to Harvard,

made a name for himself, made over $65 million. Hey,

great career, great career.

Not many

can say they had Lin Sanity.

So

that concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys for joining us.

We really appreciate you guys tuning in and watching us tonight.

I want to thank our guest contributor who will be contributing all college football season during the college football playoffs and beyond bowl games, Johnny Manzale.

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Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you that tuned in tonight and like you have so many other nights ocho and i greatly greatly appreciate that thank you for helping night cut nightcat become the phenomenon which is become so thank you again very much um

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Look, he's way a couple of time zones away. And he's like, hey, Unk, I'm going to be there.
I'll be there for you guys, and I'll be there for you every single week.

So I want to thank Johnny for, first of all, being a guest contributor for the college football season.

And y'all go make sure y'all check out his podcast, YouTube channel, Glory Days with Johnny Manzale. That's G-L-O-R-Y-D-A-Z-E.
Glory Days with Johnny Manzale. I'm Unk.
He's Ocho.

We'll see you tomorrow after the game. Thank you guys.
Peace.