BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 2: Scary Terry OVERPAID? + Anthony Richardson’s FUTURE

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Oh Jim Chris Balor said team is not trading Anthony Richardson.

It is easy to say, okay, he's done.

I don't agree.

I've said numerous times, I don't agree with that.

I think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are good for anybody, for anybody.

I do.

I'm proud of Anthony, of where he's at and how far he's come.

He's come miles.

It's tough on any young quarterback in this league, but for him to keep taking the growth steps he has and work so hard and not get the goals for himself.

All right, now continue to do that.

That's when we've got a chance to see real growth.

You like that, Ocho?

You You like what he had to say?

Absolutely.

Also, also from

a business side of things,

we know that the long-term answer is not Daniel Jones.

We've seen a small sample side of what Daniel Jones was with the New York Giants.

So to think that all of a sudden,

okay, my bad.

But to think that Daniel Jones is the answer long-term, that's not it.

So why would you trade Anthony Richardson?

He's only 23 years old.

He's probably going to continue to grow, continue to get better.

Sometimes other quarterbacks reach their potential much sooner than others.

Maybe it's going to take Anthony Richardson a little bit longer.

Maybe the benching now again and losing this spot is a blessing in the disguise for him to continue to grow, to continue to get better.

And at some point, if things aren't going well in Indianapolis with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, do you know who's going to have to come in and be that savior for the rest of the season?

Brother Anthony Richardson.

Absolutely.

They would not let him go or trade him somewhere else where there is no backup.

No, of course not.

I don't think he's trading him now.

Now, we might be having a different conversation next offseason.

Okay, yeah, that's different.

Now,

that's depending.

If things are right with Daniel Jones and what he shows us, what type of growth, maturity from the quarterback position, being able to execute the offense, facilitate the ball without the turnovers, without the mental lapses that he has from time to time.

Now, that can save not just in job, but his future in Indianapolis as well.

Yes.

So if he gets an opportunity, he's going to have to take full advantage of it because he's not getting another chance after this, Ojo.

He gets back in there and he doesn't take advantage of this opportunity.

They're going to move on

because it becomes cost-prohibitive for them to keep him on the roster.

So

and you're never going to get the value for.

I mean, you took it with the fourth pick in the draft.

The fourth pick in the draft, Ojo, you do realize like that's supposed to be, and the fourth pick in the draft, you're supposed to be franchise altering, especially if you're a a quarterback.

I mean, any player that you're taking in that high up, he's supposed to be friendly.

If it's a quarterback, a running back, a wide receiver, a tight end, he's supposed to be franchise-altering.

And

normally, you hope, Ocho, you don't have to bench a guy.

Now, we'll see how he took to the benching because we saw what he did for Bryce Young.

Bryce Young.

Let's see if he can have the same kind of impact on Richardson.

Yeah, I hope so.

I hope so too.

I hope so.

He's a talent.

He's a phenomenal talent, man.

Once he puts it all together, it can be a beautiful thing.

I mean,

look, oh, Joe, but you look at it.

A guy started,

he started 13 games in college.

He started 15 games in the NFL.

That's 28 total starts.

Most of the

really good quarterbacks,

you'll get one or two.

You get a Cam Newton that only starts one year of major college football, 13, 14 games, and Cam.

Or you get a Joe Burrow who starts, you know what, 14, 15 games.

And I think he might have started a junior year.

I'm not sure, but I don't think he started more than 25 games.

With that being said, but most of the time, these guys, you got to get, I mean, that ain't a whole lot of stars.

13.

Think about it, Ocho.

13 starts and you're a project and you get your top five pick.

Do you know how immensely talented you must be?

Yeah.

But the bad thing about it is the NFL.

No, hell no.

The NFL is not patient.

The NFL is not patient because you have to understand people's jobs on the line.

So when you draft a quarterback that high, that high, and you're expecting to be not only a generational talent, a franchise changing quarterback, you know, listen, the Texans did it.

Hell, the commanders did it.

So not understanding.

Look how many, look how many games.

Look how many games Jamie Daniel started, though.

He started like damn near 50 games, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah.

And that's the difference.

But obviously, there needs to be a little patience on the Indianapolis Colts side on that franchise, but they don't have that kind of patience.

They don't have that kind of time because people's jobs are on the line, huh?

People's jobs are

patient for the simple fact in three years, I'm going to have to give a guy a quarter of a billion dollars.

And you telling me to be patient?

Now, it's not something like, you know, once upon a time, if I can see, Ocho, if it's like, if I got 10 cars, you know, I can like, man, this car might be worth something.

I can set that one to the side.

I can't sit my, man, because growing up, Ocho, we had a Chevelle, we had a Chevelle SS with the rally racing stripes down it.

We had all, we had a Malibu, we had all that stuff.

We couldn't set that car aside because that was our everyday car.

I can't stash Anthony Richardson

because I need him to play, but I need him to play well.

Because in three years, I'm going to have to give him a quarter of a billion dollars.

I'm about to have to get somebody's about to get a contract for 400 million, Ocho.

And 250 to 300, 275 is going to be guaranteed.

So I can't stash.

I can't be patient.

Now, it used to be, I'm going to let the eggs hatch.

Now I get my chick list from smashing the eggs.

Come on up out of there, dammit.

I'm just being honest with you, Ocho.

Look, you've been in the league.

I've been in the league.

We've been around the league.

That's how it is now.

Ain't nobody waiting.

Ain't nobody waiting on you.

Listen, most of the time, honestly, you think about owners, think about owners, especially in the NFL, they want gratification.

They want,

you know, because most of the owners, they're businessmen.

And most of the time, what businessmen do is when they want results right now, they throw money at it.

But it doesn't work like that in the NFL.

It doesn't work like that.

So the frustration piles up because in other areas of business and aspects that I have going on around, once I throw money at something, right away I get results.

But it just doesn't work that way when it comes to NFL and finding an adequate quarterback that you can rely on for a decade that you can just build up.

The thing that you and I talk about is that all of a sudden you start to base your success on somebody else's.

See, they don't have patience because I'm looking around the league and I see what Bo Nicks did.

I look around the league and I see what Jayden Daniels did.

I look around the league and I see what CJ Stroud did.

So now, hold on.

Oh, wait.

You went higher than Bo.

Why you not playing like that?

Why can't you be C.J.

Stroud?

Why can't you be Jaden Daniels?

So now you're basing your guy's success on someone else's success.

And so now it's almost like, oh, Joe, you looking at somebody else, you basing your marriage on someone else's.

Okay, they look happy, but you don't know.

You don't know what they put into their marriage to be happy.

You don't know what how they're coaching said player.

You don't know how he receives information.

You don't understand how he processes information.

So, with all that being said, you looking at it, you're just looking at it, like, well, damn, I see, look at his numbers and look at my quarterback numbers.

It's not that black and white, it's not that cut and dry.

There's a lot of, there are a lot of other things that go into it, whether or not a player will be successful

and

now i got to like okay like you said okay be patient well

that's where you do your homework

and if you take it if you take it a project you have to be patient You can't expect him to come out and be like, be like CJ Stroud.

You can't expect him to be like a Jay Daniels.

You can't expect him to be like Caleb Williams, a guy that started at Oklahoma.

What is it?

Oklahoma.

And then he follows a Lincoln rider in the USC.

You can't expect that.

That man got 30 plus starts under his belt.

You got half that.

Jayden Daniel got like damn 50 starts.

You don't have that.

So if you, if it's like, oh, Joe, it's like

a car, an old school car.

You just can't slap it together.

When people say they're doing a rebuild on a car, they're going to take their time and do it.

It's going to take them years.

But the problem is, is that

I have other cars i can drive so i'm not counting on this car so i can take my time oh joe bro this pro sports they're not waiting yeah they're not waiting those days of oh and two or three years man look here i might be dead they're going i might be dead i might so i might have done sold a team

i'm not waiting for two or three years i need you to get it right now

And when you don't get it right, you're not going to have too many guys that you select in the top five and they don't pan out.

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Ocho, the commander signed Terry McLaurin to a three-year deal worth up to $96 million.

He received $30 million bonus in the new deal.

With Terry back, the commanders are true, Super Bowl contenders.

We got the list up there.

You can see right there, on average salary, where guys are based at.

Ocho, I said his.

Huh?

I said 32.

I say somewhere between 28, 32.

You was at 32.

I said, I don't see him going north of DK, but hey, plus he's a little older, Ocho.

And

you don't want to be the team to set that precedent because I was reading today of the 24 guys that's got these new deals, only one is 30 years of old, age of older when signing them.

And that's Tyreek.

Tyreek is unique because Tyreek

might be the oldest, but he outrun everybody that's on this list.

Every last one.

So with that being said,

congratulations, Terry.

Well-deserved.

Five consecutive thousand-yard season.

He was second in the NFL in touchdown catches last year behind Chase, who won the triple crown.

Very, very well-deserved.

I was glad the commanders came through.

Reward your players.

That's exemplary, not only on the field, but off the field as well.

I always like to see teams reward their players.

They drafted.

They're homegrown.

You know that player.

Reward it.

Go ahead, Ocho.

I have a question.

Can you explain to me why management, why the powers powers that be always know?

It doesn't take that long to do the numbers.

I don't know who does the books with the commanders.

It doesn't take that long.

Why do we wait until the end of training camp, preseason passes by, and then all of a sudden you decide to pay your player

two weeks before the season starts?

I don't understand.

Without being privy to both sides.

Maybe he offered concessions.

Maybe they came up a little.

Remember, it was being reported he wanted north of what DK got.

DK was at 33.

So maybe he dropped down.

Maybe, hey, he lowered his ceiling.

Maybe they lifted the floor.

We don't know without being privy to both sides of the information.

But at the end of the day, Ocho, yeah,

you would like for it to have been a little smoother transition or like for things to go a lot smoother.

But at the end of the day, isn't the job is to get the deal done?

Yes.

Yes.

And I think he was dealing with an injury anyway.

So I don't know how soon he was going to be able to practice.

Now, this gives him an opportunity, gives him a couple of weeks, works some of the dust out.

He's going to be tired.

He's going to be tired like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.

Hell yeah.

Because

I tell people all the time, Mocho, and you know this, you get in shape playing football.

You can want all the win sprints you want.

That ain't football.

Because you don't got no helmet.

You don't got no shoulder pads.

You don't got people tugging on you.

And you ain't got cleats on your feet.

Yeah.

So

in order for you to get in football shape, you got to play football.

That's what you got to do.

That's what, in track and field.

You don't see them doing anything else.

You don't see them playing basketball to get in shape.

You get in track shape by running track.

Running track.

Football shape by playing football.

Basketball shape by playing basketball.

Oh, yeah.

That's how you get in shape.

And so,

and I agree with you.

You were were talking about this, like, man, I just hate when these hold out because then you run the risk of soft tissue because you haven't pushed your body.

And they want, they, hey, hey, take these next couple of reps.

Like, nah, bro, let me, let me build up to it.

Let me build a little callous.

Let me build up to that, bro.

Hey, don't push me too hard too fast because groins, hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors.

But I'm glad Scary Terry got this deal done.

You know, hey,

he got what he wanted.

He got 30 million signing bonus.

He was trying to get that DK because I think DK got 60 million guaranteed.

So he was kind of looking for some, hey, look, bro, you straight.

You straight.

Yeah.

Hey, that, that 15,

you're a third round pick.

If you took care of your money, this right here, just the signing bonus alone, you should be good.

Even before you even get to the big money that you're going to start making next year, you should be straight.

He seems like a guy that has his head

on straight.

He'll do good with his money, but I'm glad Washington, I always like that, Ocho.

I like when teams reward their players.

I do.

Guys that you know, I mean, Cincinnati, they drafted you.

They saw you.

They know your work habits.

They know what you do.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I hate, I don't, I don't like.

So let me get this straight.

I've been here four or five years.

You hard time me, but come free.

You say, you go get this Joker here.

You don't know what he likes.

Yeah.

You don't know what his practice habits is.

You don't know anything about the guy.

But you go give him a boatload of money.

You see me every day busting my ass, and then you hard time me about my paper.

Well,

hey, that's that's crazy.

I'm like, bro, damn.

That's crazy.

But it's nice to know y'all got some money.

So when I go knocking on the door next year, I don't want to hear nothing.

I don't want to hear no excuses.

I don't hear nothing, Ocho.

Yeah.

But Jamar Chase is the highest paid at 40.250

and then you got jetta but there's a big gap between who's going to be able to fill that gap who's going to be available ocho to go in between that 35 and 40 or who pole vaults over chase puka nakur

no

no um

it's gonna be a minute it's gonna be minute huh you got neighbors you got brian thomas jr there it is it would probably be neighbors neighbors or uh brian thomas jr

If anything, it would probably be neighbors.

Brian Thomas Jr.

might fall right up under that.

Right up under that.

But the next person who I say neighbors might get maybe 42, 43.

See, Chase had the perfect storm because he had this in a contract year.

So he got the triple crown in a contract year.

Yeah.

So if you give him what he's asking for, maybe you get it for 35, 36, 37.

but now since you didn't you got a tack on you you got to pay a tax you got to pay a penalty tax but listen they they they they they bet they bet against him they bet they do yeah

they they they i mean it happens all the time i wouldn't you know why i wouldn't bet against him why because his best friend is the quarterback quarterback

yeah

hey he gonna feed him you're gonna get it to him yes and he and he got he got he got it to him too

hey hey I'd have sent him a

I'd have sent him a Richard Mill.

I'd get him a Patek.

I'd have got him something real nice.

Yeah, for sure.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Nico Collins already got paid?

I think he did.

Okay, okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, so it'll be one of the young bulls.

I don't know if they get the 40, but Malik neighbors is.

They might because of the time, Ocho.

Think about, so he got signed this deal this offseason.

By the time they come up, that's going to be 27.

So

that'll be two years, three years.

So if a

price is going up, yeah, yeah, it'll probably be Malik Neighbors and Brian Thompson.

And probably, guess what, Ocho?

Another thing is going to happen.

What?

There'll probably be an 18th game.

Ah, that's right.

That 18th game is going to be here.

28.

I'm saying 28.

Yeah, probably.

Bigger piece of the pie, too.

So, hey,

so,

but I'm glad Terry gets it.

He's right there with Garrett Wilson, A.J.

Brown, Terry McLaurin.

They're all around 32 million.

And then you got Amon Ross St.

Brown, Brandon Ayuk, Tyreek, T.

Higgins at 11.

Jalen Waddell is at 12.

So the 2019 draft third-round pick has been the team's leader in reception and receiving yards each of his six seasons.

He's put together a string of five straight 1,000-yard campaigns, Ocho, becoming the

first in NFL history to do so with a different quarterback every year per NFL research.

So he's had a different starting quarterback basically every single year

been there.

He's putting together kind of like what D.

Hop did with Houston.

It didn't even matter who D.

Hop.

I could have been throwing to D.

Hop, and he was going to be an all-pro.

He had Deshaun.

Now, when he got Deshaun, it really took him to another level.

But it didn't matter if it was Case Keenum, if it was Brian Hoyer, if it was Brock Oswald.

D.

Hop ain't give a damn who the quarterback was.

D.

Hop was putting in work on everybody.

Everybody.

Everybody.

So that's how D.

Hop made really made a name for himself because he could have used every excuse, man, give me a quarterback, like, give me, give me this, or give me that.

D.

Hop said, no, I got who I got.

But y'all know I am who I am.

Yeah, all you had to do is put the ball in the vicinity.

I still don't believe this man, Bill O'Brien, traded D-Hop for a damn running back.

I don't know what's wrong with him.

You talking about a top, at the time, D.

Hawk had to be top two, top three receiver.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

And you traded him for a running back?

Yeah, I think he wanted to get paid too, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's always the deal.

That's always the problem.

The running back is already out of the league and D-Hop's still going.

He goes to Arizona, has great seasons.

he's not the same d-hop that he once was but hell who who is who is at year 12 unless you jerry

right everybody start to slow down 12 year 12 13 ocho if you're fortunate enough to play that long at the receiving position yeah only jerry was still putting up crazy jerry had 1200 yards at 40.

what 40 year old you know that's gonna be play i mean think about it jenna gotta be 26.

you think jetter gonna put up 1200 yards in 14 years from now hell no

hey you people don't realize people don't realize how long that oh joe people don't realize how long jerry actually played yeah very in the numbers you got to realize it what was that 97.

he tore his acl the first game of the season came back that same season yeah he caught two touchdowns against us the funny thing about it is His situation

is probably a little different than everybody else is because he was a focal point of the offense when it came to passing the ball.

He was still the viable number one option.

Yeah.

So the targets and opportunity over which presented itself.

Now, most of the players, this, you know, in this day and age, when you reach a certain age and you hit 30, you know, they start acting funny with you.

Oh, yeah, they find somebody else, they drafted somebody.

Bingo, and they'll decrease your opportunities.

They'll decrease your targets and they'll say, oh, well, you lost a step.

I ain't lose nothing.

Don't play with me.

They did it to him, too.

They drafted JJ Stokes.

And the next year, who they draft, Ocho?

Your boy.

Oh, yeah.

So it happened to everybody.

Don't think because, oh, you, Jerry.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They looking to replace you.

They looking.

Yeah.

And then T.O.

put together that a monster season.

And they put together the monster season.

T.O.

had that game against the Bears where he had 265 and 20 catches on Jerry Rice Day.

The Bears say, nah, somebody else can catch for 300 yards, get 30 passes.

But it won't be him.

You ain't touching it.

And guess what?

T.O.

went crazy.

T.O.

went crazy.

And

as they say, the rest is history.

Yeah.

But

it seems to me, Ocho.

And we're going to talk about this a little bit with the Bengals,

is that the team has all the leverage.

Guys are not willing to miss a million dollars.

Guys are not willing to miss $800,000, $2 million.

Guys are not willing to miss that kind of money, Ocho.

So although they might be in the right,

I have a great foundation to stand on.

I need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract.

I know this, you know this.

If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me.

So I've outperformed the contract, compensate me.

But very few guys are willing to risk.

Now, I wouldn't miss the whole season, probably I would come back eight games because I want to get accredited.

Because if you miss the whole season, you lose accreditation.

You don't get credit for that season.

So you got to get at least eight games, Ocho, in order to get credit for the season.

But, Ocho,

guys ain't really trying to miss no nine, 10, 12 million dollars.

Nah.

So, and so that's the leverage that the uh the the teams have and they know it they know you're not going to miss that money see jerry knows jerry says i i all that off jerry gonna go to the bank and say hey check this out i'm gonna be a little i'm gonna i'm gonna be a little slow this month so i'll probably catch y'all in october okay mr jones

because they saw jerry just got a check for 432 in march Absolutely.

So they'll put that down the road.

I can't go to my kids' school and say, you you know, I'm a little behind this month.

Can y'all, no, no, no, Mr.

Sharp.

We're going to need that $3,000 child care.

We're going to need that $15,000 for a school, private tuition.

They'll give those guys the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah.

Just like us.

We're in situations, Ocho, that we get things from

financial institutions that normal people couldn't go do.

Right.

I understand.

I'm not trying to tell you, you know, I'm just saying there are certain things that they'll allow us to do knowing who we are knowing the financial situation that we're in they'll they're going to be a little bit more relaxed right

but

guys are just they just can't they just can't afford to loot leave that kind of money on the table and it's been going on for so long guys like they fight it as long as they can yeah

but you got they do hold in but you know oh cho at the end of the day like i said i just can't see a situation where michael parsons gonna leave 1.3 million on the table.

Hey, just can't.

Hey, I, I don't know.

Hey, because think about it: 1.3 million and Texas.

Yeah, I know, but still, I don't know.

Because you're going to, if you, if you fold here,

if you fold here,

then that's your leverage.

Then you're not, you don't hit, you don't get it.

Didn't Jerry tell you we got him under contract for three more years.

He has no leverage.

He's not going to play with him like that.

Did you see Jerry slide to the front of his chair when he talked to Stephen A?

Yeah.

When somebody slides to the front of their chair, oh, Joe,

they mean business.

Okay, okay.

They mean business.

Listen, in a conversation like that, when it comes to money and you slide forward, or when you're playing video games, this is very important.

I don't know you don't play video games, but the chat can attest to this.

When stuff is getting serious, and it's in the fourth quarter,

and you slide up in your chair and get closer to the monitor,

it's go time.

It's go time.

You mean nothing but business at that point.

So I know Gary was serious.

I knew he was serious.

Any minute

was saying he wanted to make sure Stephen A understood

the seriousness of what he was saying.

Yeah.

We got him under contract for three more years.

Yeah.

So he's telling you, I got this fifth year option and I got two franchise tags.

I'm not afraid to use them.

That's nasty work too, though.

That's nasty work.

Matter of fact, to even mention that, to even say that.

And though it doesn't surprise me based on some of the comments he said previously, yes, when talking about, well, just if I pay him that, doesn't mean he's going to be available because he got hurt.

Like, what?

That's still

just.

Have you been watching the documentary?

No,

I still ain't.

I ain't still okay.

In 1990, I think it was 96

when

he did the deal outside of the NFL, because the NFL with Nike, he did a deal with Phil Knight and Nike.

And the league sued him for $250 million.

Who won?

Hold on.

Come on.

They sued him for $250 million.

Jerry turned around and countersued them for $700 million.

Talking about they had a monopoly.

So they was at the owners meeting.

They had the Norman call.

Okay.

Now they asked Jerry to lead because they're about to talk about him, right?

So, Jerry tells the story that he got up, he gets up and he starts to walk out because he knows he can't be a part of the meeting.

Right, he said, I know, guys, you guys are suing me for 300 million, and you're going to try to take my ball club.

He said, I know that's what y'all gonna do.

He said, But I tell you what,

I'm suing you for 700 million, and if I win, I'm gonna collect every effing cent.

Wait, he talked, he talked, wait, hold on,

He got cojones like that?

He says, I know what y'all trying to do.

He said, but if I win, I'm going to collect every, I don't care how long it takes.

I'm going to collect every effing set.

Timeout.

What's the Cowboy documentary on?

Netflix.

Man, I'm going to watch this tonight, bro.

How many episodes?

It's like eight episodes.

Oh, I got to to see that.

Oh, yeah, hold on, Pat, Paul, Tagley Boo, went for that.

What are you gonna do?

Because at the end of the day, look, them owners

legal fees are coming out of their pockets, right?

That's why every time they like, hey, the longer something goes on, litigation goes on, those billable hours.

I know a little something about billable hours.

When you start getting up there, OJO, you start getting up there $1,000, $1,500, $2,000 an hour, and everything is a charge.

You call a how's it going?

That's a charge.

Right.

They go down there and file.

That's a charge.

They answer a motion.

That's a charge.

Jesus.

You in court.

That's a charge.

But that's a different ballgame, too.

See, Jerry was saying, hold on.

Jared said, hold on.

I'm doing four times what anybody else is doing,

but I'm getting 130th of it.

No more.

Oh, that's crazy.

No more.

Oh, that's crazy.

Look.

The one thing that the NFL don't like getting sued, that's why they kind of let this left Al alone.

Al said, Al said, I'm going to L.A.

No, Al, you can't do that.

I'll sue you.

Al said, I'm going back to Oakland.

Al, you can't do that.

I'm going to sue you.

I'm excited.

Now, how did

it end?

How does the story end with the NFL and Jerry?

Jerry is the only one that's not a part of the revenue sharing when it comes to merchandise, when it comes to that stuff.

So he pockets everything.

Everything.

That's the Dallas Cowboys.

The NFL said they own the logo.

I said, no, you don't.

I believe that logo.

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All Pro Safety, Kyle Hamilton, and the Ravens have reached an agreement.

A four-year extension worth $100.4 million is the largest deal for safety in NFL history, and the deal deal includes 82 million dollars

guaranteed

uh

however they got a bigger deal looming lamar jackson uh his salary cap number is 43.5 million in 25

74 and a half million in 26

with um with lamar continuing he still represents himself here and his mom um

are we headed for a long drawn out negotiation or is this going to be simple and painless?

It's going to be simple and painless, simply the fact.

This is quarterback number one.

This is the future of your organization probably for the next 10 years.

Obviously,

we saw Young Bull down there in Buffalo get his deal.

I forgot what the numbers were, but I know I think it was in North was maybe 300, 340, something like that.

So 300 with 250, 250 guaranteed.

Yeah.

Guaranteed.

So obviously Lamar is going to be somewhere probably going to leapfrog that in some way, shape, form, or fashion.

Representation, being his mom, them having the right people in their corner, understanding how everything works, being that they've already worked one deal.

So it's pretty easy where the numbers are going to be, and they're going to work it out.

And I'm not, maybe, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens maybe before the season or maybe in the middle of the season, but it's probably going to be done as simply when it comes to certain players, huh?

When it comes to certain players, especially this position, you don't play no games.

You don't play no games at that position.

So the quarterbacks have nothing to worry about except just football.

Yeah, I like them going ahead and getting this deal with Kyle or Kyle Hamilton out of the way.

They tie it up.

The Ravens are normally very, very good about this.

Their homegrown talent, they take care of those guys.

They always have.

I believe

they always will.

You go back and look at the Jonathan Ognams, the Ray Lewis's, the Terrell Suggs, the Ed Reeds.

Those guys, they take care of their guys.

They've always done that.

They took care of Lamar.

Now, they did make Lamar play, you know, or the franchise tag one year.

I was surprised.

Well, he didn't play on the franchise tag.

Nobody even put money down when how many guys

needed a quarterback and could have given up easily two first-round draft picks.

I don't think, I think that's the Gordon rate for a quarterback of Lamar.

Two first-rounders, you'd have been gladly giving those guys up because, hell, you figure that when you give those guys up, that you're going to be.

so far down in the draft, it's not going to harm you.

You don't think when you get Lamar Jackson, you're going to be picking in the top 10 again.

With that being said, they took care of Kyle Hamilton.

Now they can put their attention on Lamar Jackson.

And I agree with you.

At some point in time, this deal is going to get done.

They're not going into the season next year with a $75 million cap hit for a quarterback.

Could I potentially see them doing something done, getting something done?

It all depends on him.

Because at the end of the day, Ocho, you said it, best.

He and his mom are their representation.

They do have an NFLPA attorney, I think, to help them read over language and probably pay an hourly rate or something like that.

That's better than giving up 3% to 4%.

I'll pay you hourly.

I'll give you, you know, 15, whatever the case may be.

Let's just say a round number.

Let's just say $1,000 an hour for you to reel the contract to make sure everything's on the up and up.

All the language is what it needs to be.

But with that being said, he's not going into next season with no $75 million cap here.

That's for damn sure.

I think it's going to be, it's going to happen sooner rather than later that he's going to get something done.

And I can see, I agree with you.

I can see them somewhere at some point in time getting a deal done.

If

he wants to get it done, he might say, well, if we don't get this thing done by the first game, I'm done talking contracts until after the season.

Yeah,

obviously, when you think about someone like Lamar, someone like Lamar that I know personally, he's strictly football.

When it comes to the business side of things, obviously he has mom right there to handle those issues.

But Lamar is one that just wants to play football.

and we we understand the nature of the business and you don't want to get yourself in any type of distraction situations that can take you from said game of football.

But obviously, his eye is on the prize, and that eye is on the prize has nothing to do with money because he's already been paid.

So, his focus is on doing what we need to do to dominate in the AFC North and contend and get ourselves to for one the playoffs and to get over the hump of getting out the playoffs and having a chance at the goddamn you're absolutely right.

Um,

look,

the guy's a two-time MVP.

Um, you're not gonna pay.

Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You can't do that.

We got to give him what he got.

I don't care what the numbers say.

He's a three-time MVP.

Now, they took one of those DCPs from him based on one of the best statistical seasons from a quarterback in the history of the game.

So it was that I love Josh Allen, but last year's MVP was a damn here.

That's what that was.

I'm just being realistic, huh?

That's one of the damn here.

That's what that was.

But you're going to pay Lamar Jackson, the guy that's not even 30 years of age yet.

You're going to pay him, you believe, the next five to seven years.

He'll still put up the kind of numbers that he's been putting up the last three to four years.

30, 40 pass touchdowns still can give you somewhere between 500 and 800 rush yards.

Low turnover rate.

Like you said, he just needs to get over that hunt.

He just needs to get that one time to play like Lamar Jackson in the regular season.

Because so many times we've seen him.

He went like a stretch where he had eight, nine games.

Lojo, he ain't didn't turn the ball over.

He didn't fumble the ball.

He didn't throw a pick.

He did none of that.

And then he got, I think in that playoff game, the divisional round against Baltimore, he ended up having two turnovers.

Look, he still had him in position.

If

the tight end, if he catches that Mark Andrews, if he catches that two-point play, now we're possibly in the overtime or, I mean.

The defense is going to have to stand to keep Josh Allen out of field goal range.

And then we go to overtime.

We'll never know.

But we have yet to see Lamar Jackson play in a big-time game come postseason like the Lamar Jackson that we thought should have won the MVP.

See, because if that guy showed up, they go into the Super Bowl.

And

that's what we keep expecting, OJ.

That's what we keep wanting to see because we know

he has it in him because we've seen it.

It's not like we're not asking Lamar Jackson to do anything he has not put on tape in the regular season.

That's the only thing because we've seen him put on tape.

He throw for 300 he'll rush for 50 70 80 yards we've seen him have three touchdown passes two touchdown rushing so we're not asking him to do anything that we have not already seen with our own eyes it's just that in the playoffs more times than not he's turned the ball over and

yeah once he gets that out of his way you know it's sometimes it takes others longer to live

We've gotten spoiled.

Tom Brady went his first year starting.

He went.

Patrick Mahomes, his first year of starting, he goes to the FC championship game the next year, his second year starting.

He wins the Super Bowl.

He wins regular season MVP.

And that's the same thing with Lamar.

Think about it.

Lamar, his first year starting,

he won the MVP.

So we know who and what he can capable of.

We just need him to be that person come playoff time.

And if he does that,

the Ravens go to be hell because the Ravens got, they got a heck of a football team.

They got a heck of a football team.

I think John Harbaugh is an unbelievable coach defensively.

They got guys that fly around to to the football.

They got Jaheir Alexander.

They got Wiggins outside.

They got Marlon Humphrey in the slot.

They got Hamilton.

They took a safety.

I think they took another safety in the first round.

They're good.

Roquan Smith, Matabiku.

Look, they're loaded.

They're loaded.

They're loaded.

They got Bateman.

They got

the other ones.

Zay Flowers.

The running back.

Ricard is back.

They got Derrick Henry.

They got Staley is back.

Lamar.

They are loaded.

Now,

Lively's gonna be out a little while because I think he got dealing with a foot injury.

But they got Mark Andrews, who's been an all-pro, who's gone to multiple pro bowls.

This team is loaded.

This team is equipped, and they should

be thinking, hey, we got to take care of our, we got to take care of business and win our division, but

they should have loftier expectations based on the personnel that they have on the team and based on the coach, the coaching staff that they have.

But yeah, Lamar, they're going to get something done.

43.5 million.

That's not excessive as far as the cap, Ocho, but 75, yeah, that's excessive.

During Terry McCarran's push for a new contract, age was cited as a big factor in the reluctance.

Terry turns 30 in mid-September.

That ultimately didn't stop the team from agreeing on a three-year deal without the wide out.

At the press conference today, McLaurin was asked about his response to the concerns that neither he nor the deal will age well.

The data is the data, but I think people,

they're outliers.

They're people who may not necessarily fit into that set of data.

Only time will tell.

But I feel like where things are in my ability, in January, I ran like 60-yard screen for a touchdown.

My speed hasn't diminished at all.

My toughness is there.

If anything, my savviness of playing receiver has grown.

Hey, listen.

Honestly, I'm just listening.

All the analytics and data and stuff that they have based on age and wear and tear and amount of miles on your legs none of that really matters no it doesn't matter to us it matters

yeah no it don't matter us it just matters to those who cut those checks yeah that's all that's all and so they look at it from a business standpoint maybe i won't get another terry mclaurren i can get somebody that can give me half the production and i can i can put that money elsewhere that's the way they think but when it comes to a team that is on the verge of being able to go to a super bowl that has a young quarterback that you haven't had to pay yet you want to make a deal like this happen which i don't understand why they were waiting from a business standpoint why are we waiting are you serious about winning them getting that deal done for terry mulawn lets me know that they're serious about winning and the quarterback not having the power or leverage to be able to go upstairs and say listen we need to get this done we need to get this done because we have a small window of opportunity we have a good we have okay defense but i understand we could do offensively if we have number 17 in this room for us to make that run for lombardi hell we got to the nfc championship with him he was i'm not sure what percentage, but he was responsible for a high percentage of that offense, especially when it comes to throwing the ball in the air.

So, what is there to play about?

I don't care what data, I don't care what analytics say.

I know what happens, I know what he does when you put when you turn that goddamn film on.

And at 17, he's gonna show up every time.

The question is, OJo, what we don't know, um, we're not privy to these conversations.

Did he lower the ceiling or did they raise the floor?

Oh, that's a good one.

That's that's what you

and I are not privy to those conversations.

So, and what I mean by that, chat, did he lower his price or did they raise their, did they raise their offer?

And, and, and so that's what we don't know.

All we know is that the deal got done.

Um, you and I both think maybe it took a little longer than probably what it should.

But

in any negotiation, there needs to be a give and take because you, you don't want someone to begrudgingly give you something and then you guys become resentful of each other.

But by the same token,

you don't want to like, man,

feel like you got screwed over because now you're going to feel like you, you know, they tried, they took advantage of you.

So

I think at this, at the number that he ended up getting, I think everybody can live.

I think everybody can live with that.

He doesn't have to go in and play on that fifth year option.

Now he gets to come.

Now he gets to,

I think.

He gets to come in and get a good number.

Like I said, OJo,

what can he do with 32 million that he only needed 34 million to be able to do it

right right yeah listen he comes in fair it's a respectful respectful offer obviously it's not the highest it's not as high as you want obviously because you are 30 but they found a happy median a happy medium for him his family wife kids they can be happy the team is happy Jaden Daniels gets his court Jaden Daniel Jaden Daniels gets his receiver on a nice peace sound mindset now all you can do the business side of it is over let's go play football let's play football and prepare prepare for week one with no distractions

yeah we all go

they're gonna have to do something with laram and tunsil they're gonna have to do something with louvu um they you know they what uh are they gonna do anything with marshawn lattimore um that's the question jayden daniels is coming up in after next year uh so you know they they got some other pieces and they needed to get this out of the way so they don't have this you know going into a next season with tonsil and low lovoo and those other and a few other guys oh joe let's go ahead and

piece by piece because in two years you're gonna have to go see five i think he's number ain't king daniels five yeah uh you're gonna have to see it yep and it's gonna cost you a chunk of change now it's gonna hey yeah oh yeah oh yeah you have to do something strange for a little he go you have to do something strange to pay that piece of change

And you got to understand, you got three quarterbacks, right?

That's going to come up and it's going to break the bank for their team.

So, you want to take advantage of those situations now over there in Houston.

Boy, you better back the Brink truck up.

Down there in Washington, you better be able to back the Brink truck up at some point.

I think after the season, no, Caleb Williams got one more.

Uh, Bonicks, they finna have to back the Brink.

But he got another year, too.

Yeah, yeah, he him and Caleb, him, him, and Bo Nick,

be at the same time.

All of them came out the same draft.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Come on, talk to me now.

Talk to me nice, too.

Let me know.

Let me show me how much you love me.

It's gonna be, yeah.

I mean, look, the thing is, you try to win as much as you can.

Um, because when these quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks, when it's time to dance, no,

it kind of inhibits what you're able to do.

You can't just arbitrarily go, okay, I'll just go get that.

Because when you have him on his rookie contract, you can do that.

You can go get a guy and think about just one year.

Okay, I think about just the now, just the here.

But once you pay that guy and you talk about you paying a guy 50, 60, and you're looking at this case, you're probably talking about somewhere between 63 and 60, 67, 68 million dollars.

Who knows?

Maybe even you touch 70.

Yeah, without paying.

Yeah.

Without paying.

So you're looking at a quarter of a bill, a quarter, you know, a quarter of a billy

guaranteed.

So

that's kind of where you're headed now.

So with that being said, I think, you know, these guys, these general managers and the teams are trying to link the lock, lock these guys up.

So we don't want to have to do, I'm trying to do Laramie Tunsil, I'm trying to do Lovu, I'm trying to do Jayden Daniels, I'm trying to do whomever else.

Let me go ahead and get, do, I deal with one thing I can fight one battle at a time.

I don't want to spread myself too fan.

Let me fight one battle at a time.

Okay.

I got to fight Jayden Daniels.

Let me go ahead and get this taken care of.

Okay.

I need to deal with Tunsel.

I need to deal with Lovu.

I need to do whomever.

Let me deal with one individual at a time.

And I think that they'll be better served with that.

But

it was good that McLaurin got his money.

And, you know, look,

whether we like it or not, Ocho, everybody is losing analytics.

Because guess what else everybody uses?

AI.

Pretty soon they're going to come with AI.

The team's going to be using AI to determine.

Yeah.

I mean, listen,

the game of football is still football at the end of the day.

I don't care what technology, what data, what analytics that teams try to go off of.

Certain type of players win you championships.

You're going to need your dogs in there.

There's certain things that analytics and data can't measure.

They can't measure skill.

They can't measure heart.

Sometimes you got to use your eyes and goddamn common sense.

The Panthers trade Adam Thielen to the Vikings that the veteran receiver returns home.

He is from Minnesota.

The teams agreed to pop, to swap picks.

The Vikings gave up a fifth round pick in 26 and a fourth round pick in 27.

carolina yields a conditional seventh round pick in 26 and a fifth round in 27.

ojo did the vikings get better bringing him back

i think they got better just the veteran presence in general just veteran presence in general having having obviously jordan adderson going to be out so you have adam thien that can come in right now and play and if you think about it i i'm sure people probably don't see or probably don't know but adam thieling and jj mccarthy they they worked out in the offseason together they they were getting routes and even though that's not his quarterback, they were getting some routes in.

So there's a little bit of chemistry and familiarity in that area in that sense.

So really Adam Thielen coming back,

being able to acclimate right back to that offense, right back at home.

I think they're going to be fine.

It's a great addition for them.

And obviously, them, the Panthers, letting them go, let you know how good and how much they believe in that young Jimmy Horn made the actor rock.

Jimmy Horn Jr.

made the actor rock.

But you,

you goddamn right, Jimmy Horn was going to make it.

Jimmy Horn is one of the better rookies in the NFL, especially when it comes to route running and being able to create separation and get open.

So I understood that.

Hell, Jimmy was so goddamn good, they let Brother Hunter Winfro, Brother Hunter Winfro go.

And Winfro is one, if considered one of the better route runners and also at creating separation and be able to get open.

But that's how good, that's how good they are.

Obviously, I'm very, very high, very, very high.

And I've spoke highly of that receiving core over there in Carolina.

And

if they're to have a year and want to compete, not only in that division, but have a successful season, it's going to be upon that receiving core leading brother Bryce Young to the promised land.

So outside of that, I'm happy for Adam Thielen.

He's going to be just fine back in Minnesota.

J.J.

McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen.

And when Jordan Addison comes back, that's a nice trio to have.

And you spare Hawkinson, who's another year removed from that injury.

Aaron Jones in the backfield.

Yeah, I like the move.

This is a Carolinas opportunity.

I mean, I would have liked for for him to stay there and help mentor some of those young receivers, Ocho, that they have in Carolina.

But

Carolinas look like it's, I guess, it's time for them to grow up.

It's time for them to grow up.

We're counting on these young guys.

You got Macmillan.

You got Legette.

You got...

Coco, you got Jimmy Horn Jr.

Like you said.

So they got some young talent.

Now it's just time for them.

They don't have what you call a veteran presence in that locker room, Ocho, at the receiver position.

They have veterans on the team.

But

I like the move.

Would I have been disappointed if Carolina said no, but they said, you know what?

For a fourth round pick in 27,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We go ahead.

We let y'all have this.

And I understand Minnesota because, like you said, Jordan Addison is going to be gone for three games.

So now we got somebody to come in that a veteran presence that understands the gravity and the magnitude of these games.

they're in a very tough division, OJo.

That Green Bay's in that division.

Detroit's in that division.

We believe Chicago will be better in that division.

So Detroit's like, nah, we don't want to have any excuses.

We don't have any slippage.

We want to get off, hit the ground running.

And I think Adam Thielen gives them a great opportunity to do that.

So I like the trade for both.

But if Carolina said nah, to keep Adam Thielen and to help him groom some of these young guys, I wouldn't have been upset at that either.

Yeah.

But you have to understand why they let him go.

I think people in the chat need to understand when it it comes to veteran players that are on teams and you have a young receiving core that is impressed not only in the preseason, but in training camp, that's the only time you let a veteran

presence of a player like Adam Thielen go because you trust what you've already seen.

You trust what those young, those young bulls have put on film.

So now we know, you know what?

We're going to be okay.

We're going to be okay.

And we're going to let them boys take the torch.

And that's your thing.

Look,

a part of us all want to go back home.

You know, Dorothy wanted to go back to Kansas.

A part of us want to go back to where it started from.

And, you know, if you think about it,

a normal time when a lot of people escape, where the first place they go, they catch them at home.

They go back to old familiar surroundings.

And so I think for Adam.

Adam, you know, he's like, man, I'm from Minnesota.

I spent the first 10 years of my career in Minnesota.

You know what?

And my family, he's probably, Minnesota is probably going to be home for him.

Man, I mean, he's probably probably thinking, didn't know if it would ever come to fruition.

He's probably thinking, man, I sure would like to get home.

I sure would like to, you know, finally play a last year or two in Minnesota.

And here it is.

He's going home.

And Minnesota pull off a swap.

They give up a fifth round pick in 26th and a fourth round in 27th.

Carolina

gets a seventh round pick in 26th and a fifth round in 27th.

So I think everybody's happy, OJo.

But like you said, those young receivers in Carolina,

they impressed enough that Carolina was willing to move off a veteran presence, a guy that's steady, dependable.

You know exactly what you're going to get.

He's hardworking.

He's a guy that can mentor the young guys.

But they say, you know what?

These young guys are ready.

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