BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 2: Scary Terry OVERPAID? + Anthony Richardson’s FUTURE

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Speaker 36 Oh Jim Chris Balor said team is not trading Anthony Richardson. It is easy to say, okay, he's done.
I don't agree.

Speaker 33 I've said numerous times, I don't agree with that. I think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are good for anybody, for anybody.
I do.

Speaker 33 I'm proud of Anthony, of where he's at and how far he's come. He's come miles.

Speaker 33 It's tough on any young quarterback in this league, but for him to keep taking the growth steps he has and work so hard and not get the goals for himself. All right, now continue to do that.

Speaker 33 That's when we've got a chance to see real growth.

Speaker 33 You like that, Ocho? You You like what he had to say?

Speaker 33 Absolutely. Also, also from

Speaker 33 a business side of things,

Speaker 33 we know that the long-term answer is not Daniel Jones. We've seen a small sample side of what Daniel Jones was with the New York Giants.

Speaker 33 So to think that all of a sudden,

Speaker 33 okay, my bad. But to think that Daniel Jones is the answer long-term, that's not it.
So why would you trade Anthony Richardson? He's only 23 years old.

Speaker 33 He's probably going to continue to grow, continue to get better. Sometimes other quarterbacks reach their potential much sooner than others.

Speaker 33 Maybe it's going to take Anthony Richardson a little bit longer. Maybe the benching now again and losing this spot is a blessing in the disguise for him to continue to grow, to continue to get better.

Speaker 33 And at some point, if things aren't going well in Indianapolis with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, do you know who's going to have to come in and be that savior for the rest of the season?

Speaker 33 Brother Anthony Richardson. Absolutely.
They would not let him go or trade him somewhere else where there is no backup. No, of course not.

Speaker 33 I don't think he's trading him now. Now, we might be having a different conversation next offseason.

Speaker 33 Okay, yeah, that's different. Now,

Speaker 33 that's depending.

Speaker 33 If things are right with Daniel Jones and what he shows us, what type of growth, maturity from the quarterback position, being able to execute the offense, facilitate the ball without the turnovers, without the mental lapses that he has from time to time.

Speaker 33 Now, that can save not just in job, but his future in Indianapolis as well. Yes.

Speaker 33 So if he gets an opportunity, he's going to have to take full advantage of it because he's not getting another chance after this, Ojo.

Speaker 33 He gets back in there and he doesn't take advantage of this opportunity. They're going to move on

Speaker 33 because it becomes cost-prohibitive for them to keep him on the roster.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 33 and you're never going to get the value for. I mean, you took it with the fourth pick in the draft.

Speaker 33 The fourth pick in the draft, Ojo, you do realize like that's supposed to be, and the fourth pick in the draft, you're supposed to be franchise altering, especially if you're a a quarterback.

Speaker 33 I mean, any player that you're taking in that high up, he's supposed to be friendly. If it's a quarterback, a running back, a wide receiver, a tight end, he's supposed to be franchise-altering.

Speaker 33 And

Speaker 33 normally, you hope, Ocho, you don't have to bench a guy.

Speaker 33 Now, we'll see how he took to the benching because we saw what he did for Bryce Young. Bryce Young.
Let's see if he can have the same kind of impact on Richardson.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I hope so. I hope so too.
I hope so.

Speaker 33 He's a talent. He's a phenomenal talent, man.
Once he puts it all together, it can be a beautiful thing. I mean,

Speaker 33 look, oh, Joe, but you look at it. A guy started,

Speaker 33 he started 13 games in college. He started 15 games in the NFL.
That's 28 total starts. Most of the

Speaker 33 really good quarterbacks,

Speaker 33 you'll get one or two. You get a Cam Newton that only starts one year of major college football, 13, 14 games, and Cam.
Or you get a Joe Burrow who starts, you know what, 14, 15 games.

Speaker 33 And I think he might have started a junior year.

Speaker 33 I'm not sure, but I don't think he started more than 25 games. With that being said, but most of the time, these guys, you got to get, I mean, that ain't a whole lot of stars.
13.

Speaker 33 Think about it, Ocho. 13 starts and you're a project and you get your top five pick.

Speaker 33 Do you know how immensely talented you must be?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 33 But the bad thing about it is the NFL. No, hell no.

Speaker 33 The NFL is not patient. The NFL is not patient because you have to understand people's jobs on the line.

Speaker 33 So when you draft a quarterback that high, that high, and you're expecting to be not only a generational talent, a franchise changing quarterback, you know, listen, the Texans did it.

Speaker 33 Hell, the commanders did it. So not understanding.

Speaker 33 Look how many, look how many games. Look how many games Jamie Daniel started, though.
He started like damn near 50 games, Ocho.

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah. And that's the difference.
But obviously, there needs to be a little patience on the Indianapolis Colts side on that franchise, but they don't have that kind of patience.

Speaker 33 They don't have that kind of time because people's jobs are on the line, huh? People's jobs are

Speaker 33 patient for the simple fact in three years, I'm going to have to give a guy a quarter of a billion dollars. And you telling me to be patient?

Speaker 33 Now, it's not something like, you know, once upon a time, if I can see, Ocho, if it's like, if I got 10 cars, you know, I can like, man, this car might be worth something.

Speaker 33 I can set that one to the side. I can't sit my, man, because growing up, Ocho, we had a Chevelle, we had a Chevelle SS with the rally racing stripes down it.

Speaker 33 We had all, we had a Malibu, we had all that stuff. We couldn't set that car aside because that was our everyday car.

Speaker 33 I can't stash Anthony Richardson

Speaker 33 because I need him to play, but I need him to play well. Because in three years, I'm going to have to give him a quarter of a billion dollars.

Speaker 33 I'm about to have to get somebody's about to get a contract for 400 million, Ocho. And 250 to 300, 275 is going to be guaranteed.
So I can't stash. I can't be patient.

Speaker 33 Now, it used to be, I'm going to let the eggs hatch. Now I get my chick list from smashing the eggs.
Come on up out of there, dammit.

Speaker 33 I'm just being honest with you, Ocho.

Speaker 33 Look, you've been in the league.

Speaker 33 I've been in the league. We've been around the league.
That's how it is now. Ain't nobody waiting.
Ain't nobody waiting on you.

Speaker 33 Listen, most of the time, honestly, you think about owners, think about owners, especially in the NFL, they want gratification. They want,

Speaker 33 you know, because most of the owners, they're businessmen. And most of the time, what businessmen do is when they want results right now, they throw money at it.

Speaker 33 But it doesn't work like that in the NFL.

Speaker 33 It doesn't work like that. So the frustration piles up because in other areas of business and aspects that I have going on around, once I throw money at something, right away I get results.

Speaker 33 But it just doesn't work that way when it comes to NFL and finding an adequate quarterback that you can rely on for a decade that you can just build up.

Speaker 33 The thing that you and I talk about is that all of a sudden you start to base your success on somebody else's.

Speaker 33 See, they don't have patience because I'm looking around the league and I see what Bo Nicks did. I look around the league and I see what Jayden Daniels did.

Speaker 33 I look around the league and I see what CJ Stroud did. So now, hold on.

Speaker 33 Oh, wait. You went higher than Bo.

Speaker 33 Why you not playing like that?

Speaker 33 Why can't you be C.J. Stroud? Why can't you be Jaden Daniels? So now you're basing your guy's success on someone else's success.

Speaker 33 And so now it's almost like, oh, Joe, you looking at somebody else, you basing your marriage on someone else's. Okay, they look happy, but you don't know.

Speaker 33 You don't know what they put into their marriage to be happy. You don't know what how they're coaching said player.
You don't know how he receives information.

Speaker 33 You don't understand how he processes information.

Speaker 33 So, with all that being said, you looking at it, you're just looking at it, like, well, damn, I see, look at his numbers and look at my quarterback numbers.

Speaker 33 It's not that black and white, it's not that cut and dry. There's a lot of, there are a lot of other things that go into it, whether or not a player will be successful

Speaker 33 and

Speaker 33 now i got to like okay like you said okay be patient well

Speaker 33 that's where you do your homework

Speaker 33 and if you take it if you take it a project you have to be patient You can't expect him to come out and be like, be like CJ Stroud. You can't expect him to be like a Jay Daniels.

Speaker 33 You can't expect him to be like Caleb Williams, a guy that started at Oklahoma. What is it? Oklahoma.
And then he follows a Lincoln rider in the USC. You can't expect that.

Speaker 33 That man got 30 plus starts under his belt. You got half that.
Jayden Daniel got like damn 50 starts.

Speaker 33 You don't have that. So if you, if it's like, oh, Joe, it's like

Speaker 33 a car, an old school car. You just can't slap it together.
When people say they're doing a rebuild on a car, they're going to take their time and do it. It's going to take them years.

Speaker 33 But the problem is, is that

Speaker 33 I have other cars i can drive so i'm not counting on this car so i can take my time oh joe bro this pro sports they're not waiting yeah they're not waiting those days of oh and two or three years man look here i might be dead they're going i might be dead i might so i might have done sold a team

Speaker 33 i'm not waiting for two or three years i need you to get it right now

Speaker 33 And when you don't get it right, you're not going to have too many guys that you select in the top five and they don't pan out.

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Speaker 41 Ocho, the commander signed Terry McLaurin to a three-year deal worth up to $96 million. He received $30 million bonus in the new deal.
With Terry back, the commanders are true, Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 41 We got the list up there. You can see right there, on average salary, where guys are based at.
Ocho, I said his. Huh?

Speaker 33 I said 32.

Speaker 41 I say somewhere between 28, 32. You was at 32.
I said, I don't see him going north of DK, but hey, plus he's a little older, Ocho. And

Speaker 41 you don't want to be the team to set that precedent because I was reading today of the 24 guys that's got these new deals, only one is 30 years of old, age of older when signing them.

Speaker 41 And that's Tyreek. Tyreek is unique because Tyreek

Speaker 41 might be the oldest, but he outrun everybody that's on this list. Every last one.

Speaker 41 So with that being said,

Speaker 41 congratulations, Terry. Well-deserved.
Five consecutive thousand-yard season. He was second in the NFL in touchdown catches last year behind Chase, who won the triple crown.
Very, very well-deserved.

Speaker 41 I was glad the commanders came through. Reward your players.

Speaker 41 That's exemplary, not only on the field, but off the field as well. I always like to see teams reward their players.
They drafted. They're homegrown.
You know that player. Reward it.
Go ahead, Ocho.

Speaker 33 I have a question. Can you explain to me why management, why the powers powers that be always know? It doesn't take that long to do the numbers.
I don't know who does the books with the commanders.

Speaker 33 It doesn't take that long. Why do we wait until the end of training camp, preseason passes by, and then all of a sudden you decide to pay your player

Speaker 33 two weeks before the season starts?

Speaker 33 I don't understand.

Speaker 41 Without being privy to both sides. Maybe he offered concessions.
Maybe they came up a little. Remember, it was being reported he wanted north of what DK got.

Speaker 41 DK was at 33. So maybe he dropped down.

Speaker 41 Maybe, hey, he lowered his ceiling. Maybe they lifted the floor.
We don't know without being privy to both sides of the information. But at the end of the day, Ocho, yeah,

Speaker 41 you would like for it to have been a little smoother transition or like for things to go a lot smoother. But at the end of the day, isn't the job is to get the deal done?

Speaker 33 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 41 And I think he was dealing with an injury anyway. So I don't know how soon he was going to be able to practice.

Speaker 41 Now, this gives him an opportunity, gives him a couple of weeks, works some of the dust out. He's going to be tired.

Speaker 41 He's going to be tired like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest. Hell yeah.

Speaker 41 Because

Speaker 41 I tell people all the time, Mocho, and you know this, you get in shape playing football.

Speaker 41 You can want all the win sprints you want.

Speaker 41 That ain't football. Because you don't got no helmet.
You don't got no shoulder pads. You don't got people tugging on you.
And you ain't got cleats on your feet.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 So

Speaker 41 in order for you to get in football shape, you got to play football.

Speaker 41 That's what you got to do. That's what, in track and field.
You don't see them doing anything else. You don't see them playing basketball to get in shape.
You get in track shape by running track.

Speaker 41 Running track.

Speaker 41 Football shape by playing football. Basketball shape by playing basketball.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 41 That's how you get in shape. And so,

Speaker 41 and I agree with you. You were were talking about this, like, man, I just hate when these hold out because then you run the risk of soft tissue because you haven't pushed your body.

Speaker 41 And they want, they, hey, hey, take these next couple of reps. Like, nah, bro, let me, let me build up to it.
Let me build a little callous. Let me build up to that, bro.

Speaker 41 Hey, don't push me too hard too fast because groins, hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors.

Speaker 41 But I'm glad Scary Terry got this deal done.

Speaker 41 You know, hey,

Speaker 41 he got what he wanted. He got 30 million signing bonus.

Speaker 41 He was trying to get that DK because I think DK got 60 million guaranteed. So he was kind of looking for some, hey, look, bro, you straight.

Speaker 41 You straight. Yeah.
Hey, that, that 15,

Speaker 41 you're a third round pick.

Speaker 41 If you took care of your money, this right here, just the signing bonus alone, you should be good.

Speaker 41 Even before you even get to the big money that you're going to start making next year, you should be straight. He seems like a guy that has his head

Speaker 41 on straight. He'll do good with his money, but I'm glad Washington, I always like that, Ocho.
I like when teams reward their players. I do.

Speaker 41 Guys that you know, I mean, Cincinnati, they drafted you. They saw you.
They know your work habits. They know what you do.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 41 I hate, I don't, I don't like.

Speaker 41 So let me get this straight. I've been here four or five years.
You hard time me, but come free. You say, you go get this Joker here.
You don't know what he likes.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 You don't know what his practice habits is. You don't know anything about the guy.
But you go give him a boatload of money.

Speaker 41 You see me every day busting my ass, and then you hard time me about my paper.

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 33 hey, that's that's crazy.

Speaker 41 I'm like, bro, damn.

Speaker 33 That's crazy.

Speaker 41 But it's nice to know y'all got some money. So when I go knocking on the door next year, I don't want to hear nothing.

Speaker 33 I don't want to hear no excuses.

Speaker 41 I don't hear nothing, Ocho. Yeah.
But Jamar Chase is the highest paid at 40.250

Speaker 41 and then you got jetta but there's a big gap between who's going to be able to fill that gap who's going to be available ocho to go in between that 35 and 40 or who pole vaults over chase puka nakur

Speaker 33 no

Speaker 33 no um

Speaker 33 it's gonna be a minute it's gonna be minute huh you got neighbors you got brian thomas jr there it is it would probably be neighbors neighbors or uh brian thomas jr

Speaker 33 If anything, it would probably be neighbors. Brian Thomas Jr.
might fall right up under that.

Speaker 33 Right up under that. But the next person who I say neighbors might get maybe 42, 43.

Speaker 41 See, Chase had the perfect storm because he had this in a contract year. So he got the triple crown in a contract year.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 So if you give him what he's asking for, maybe you get it for 35, 36, 37.

Speaker 41 but now since you didn't you got a tack on you you got to pay a tax you got to pay a penalty tax but listen they they they they they bet they bet against him they bet they do yeah

Speaker 33 they they they i mean it happens all the time i wouldn't you know why i wouldn't bet against him why because his best friend is the quarterback quarterback

Speaker 41 yeah

Speaker 33 hey he gonna feed him you're gonna get it to him yes and he and he got he got he got it to him too

Speaker 33 hey hey I'd have sent him a

Speaker 41 I'd have sent him a Richard Mill. I'd get him a Patek.
I'd have got him something real nice.

Speaker 41 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 33 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Nico Collins already got paid?

Speaker 41 I think he did.

Speaker 33 Okay, okay. Yeah.
Yeah, so it'll be one of the young bulls. I don't know if they get the 40, but Malik neighbors is.

Speaker 41 They might because of the time, Ocho. Think about, so he got signed this deal this offseason.
By the time they come up, that's going to be 27.

Speaker 41 So

Speaker 41 that'll be two years, three years.

Speaker 41 So if a

Speaker 33 price is going up, yeah, yeah, it'll probably be Malik Neighbors and Brian Thompson.

Speaker 41 And probably, guess what, Ocho? Another thing is going to happen. What? There'll probably be an 18th game.

Speaker 33 Ah, that's right.

Speaker 41 That 18th game is going to be here. 28.

Speaker 41 I'm saying 28.

Speaker 33 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 33 Bigger piece of the pie, too.

Speaker 41 So, hey,

Speaker 41 so,

Speaker 41 but I'm glad Terry gets it. He's right there with Garrett Wilson, A.J.
Brown, Terry McLaurin. They're all around 32 million.

Speaker 41 And then you got Amon Ross St. Brown, Brandon Ayuk, Tyreek, T.
Higgins at 11. Jalen Waddell is at 12.

Speaker 41 So the 2019 draft third-round pick has been the team's leader in reception and receiving yards each of his six seasons.

Speaker 41 He's put together a string of five straight 1,000-yard campaigns, Ocho, becoming the

Speaker 41 first in NFL history to do so with a different quarterback every year per NFL research. So he's had a different starting quarterback basically every single year

Speaker 41 been there.

Speaker 41 He's putting together kind of like what D. Hop did with Houston.
It didn't even matter who D. Hop.

Speaker 41 I could have been throwing to D. Hop, and he was going to be an all-pro.

Speaker 41 He had Deshaun. Now, when he got Deshaun, it really took him to another level.
But it didn't matter if it was Case Keenum, if it was Brian Hoyer, if it was Brock Oswald. D.

Speaker 41 Hop ain't give a damn who the quarterback was. D.
Hop was putting in work on everybody. Everybody.

Speaker 41 Everybody.

Speaker 41 So that's how D. Hop made really made a name for himself because he could have used every excuse, man, give me a quarterback, like, give me, give me this, or give me that.
D.

Speaker 41 Hop said, no, I got who I got.

Speaker 41 But y'all know I am who I am.

Speaker 33 Yeah, all you had to do is put the ball in the vicinity.

Speaker 41 I still don't believe this man, Bill O'Brien, traded D-Hop for a damn running back.

Speaker 33 I don't know what's wrong with him.

Speaker 41 You talking about a top, at the time, D. Hawk had to be top two, top three receiver.

Speaker 33 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 41 And you traded him for a running back?

Speaker 33 Yeah, I think he wanted to get paid too, if I'm not mistaken, right?

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 33 that's always the deal. That's always the problem.

Speaker 41 The running back is already out of the league and D-Hop's still going.

Speaker 41 He goes to Arizona, has great seasons.

Speaker 41 he's not the same d-hop that he once was but hell who who is who is at year 12 unless you jerry

Speaker 41 right everybody start to slow down 12 year 12 13 ocho if you're fortunate enough to play that long at the receiving position yeah only jerry was still putting up crazy jerry had 1200 yards at 40.

Speaker 41 what 40 year old you know that's gonna be play i mean think about it jenna gotta be 26. you think jetter gonna put up 1200 yards in 14 years from now hell no

Speaker 41 hey you people don't realize people don't realize how long that oh joe people don't realize how long jerry actually played yeah very in the numbers you got to realize it what was that 97.

Speaker 41 he tore his acl the first game of the season came back that same season yeah he caught two touchdowns against us the funny thing about it is His situation

Speaker 33 is probably a little different than everybody else is because he was a focal point of the offense when it came to passing the ball. He was still the viable number one option.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 So the targets and opportunity over which presented itself.

Speaker 33 Now, most of the players, this, you know, in this day and age, when you reach a certain age and you hit 30, you know, they start acting funny with you.

Speaker 41 Oh, yeah, they find somebody else, they drafted somebody.

Speaker 33 Bingo, and they'll decrease your opportunities. They'll decrease your targets and they'll say, oh, well, you lost a step.
I ain't lose nothing. Don't play with me.

Speaker 41 They did it to him, too.

Speaker 41 They drafted JJ Stokes. And the next year, who they draft, Ocho?

Speaker 41 Your boy. Oh, yeah.
So it happened to everybody.

Speaker 41 Don't think because, oh, you, Jerry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They looking to replace you.

Speaker 41 They looking.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 And then T.O. put together that a monster season.

Speaker 41 And they put together the monster season. T.O.
had that game against the Bears where he had 265 and 20 catches on Jerry Rice Day.

Speaker 41 The Bears say, nah, somebody else can catch for 300 yards, get 30 passes.

Speaker 33 But it won't be him. You ain't touching it.

Speaker 41 And guess what? T.O.

Speaker 41 went crazy.

Speaker 41 T.O. went crazy.
And

Speaker 41 as they say, the rest is history.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 But

Speaker 41 it seems to me, Ocho.

Speaker 41 And we're going to talk about this a little bit with the Bengals,

Speaker 41 is that the team has all the leverage. Guys are not willing to miss a million dollars.
Guys are not willing to miss $800,000, $2 million. Guys are not willing to miss that kind of money, Ocho.

Speaker 41 So although they might be in the right,

Speaker 41 I have a great foundation to stand on. I need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract.
I know this, you know this. If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me.

Speaker 41 So I've outperformed the contract, compensate me. But very few guys are willing to risk.
Now, I wouldn't miss the whole season, probably I would come back eight games because I want to get accredited.

Speaker 41 Because if you miss the whole season, you lose accreditation. You don't get credit for that season.
So you got to get at least eight games, Ocho, in order to get credit for the season.

Speaker 41 But, Ocho,

Speaker 41 guys ain't really trying to miss no nine, 10, 12 million dollars.

Speaker 33 Nah.

Speaker 41 So, and so that's the leverage that the uh the the teams have and they know it they know you're not going to miss that money see jerry knows jerry says i i all that off jerry gonna go to the bank and say hey check this out i'm gonna be a little i'm gonna i'm gonna be a little slow this month so i'll probably catch y'all in october okay mr jones

Speaker 41 because they saw jerry just got a check for 432 in march Absolutely. So they'll put that down the road.
I can't go to my kids' school and say, you you know, I'm a little behind this month.

Speaker 41 Can y'all, no, no, no, Mr. Sharp.
We're going to need that $3,000 child care. We're going to need that $15,000 for a school, private tuition.

Speaker 41 They'll give those guys the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 Just like us. We're in situations, Ocho, that we get things from

Speaker 41 financial institutions that normal people couldn't go do.

Speaker 33 Right.

Speaker 41 I understand.

Speaker 41 I'm not trying to tell you, you know, I'm just saying there are certain things that they'll allow us to do knowing who we are knowing the financial situation that we're in they'll they're going to be a little bit more relaxed right

Speaker 41 but

Speaker 41 guys are just they just can't they just can't afford to loot leave that kind of money on the table and it's been going on for so long guys like they fight it as long as they can yeah

Speaker 41 but you got they do hold in but you know oh cho at the end of the day like i said i just can't see a situation where michael parsons gonna leave 1.3 million on the table.

Speaker 41 Hey, just can't.

Speaker 33 Hey, I, I don't know.

Speaker 41 Hey, because think about it: 1.3 million and Texas.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I know, but still, I don't know. Because you're going to, if you, if you fold here,

Speaker 33 if you fold here,

Speaker 33 then that's your leverage. Then you're not, you don't hit, you don't get it.

Speaker 41 Didn't Jerry tell you we got him under contract for three more years. He has no leverage.

Speaker 33 He's not going to play with him like that.

Speaker 41 Did you see Jerry slide to the front of his chair when he talked to Stephen A?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 When somebody slides to the front of their chair, oh, Joe,

Speaker 33 they mean business.

Speaker 41 Okay, okay.

Speaker 33 They mean business. Listen, in a conversation like that, when it comes to money and you slide forward, or when you're playing video games, this is very important.

Speaker 33 I don't know you don't play video games, but the chat can attest to this. When stuff is getting serious, and it's in the fourth quarter,

Speaker 33 and you slide up in your chair and get closer to the monitor,

Speaker 33 it's go time.

Speaker 33 It's go time. You mean nothing but business at that point.

Speaker 41 So I know Gary was serious.

Speaker 33 I knew he was serious. Any minute

Speaker 41 was saying he wanted to make sure Stephen A understood

Speaker 41 the seriousness of what he was saying.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 41 We got him under contract for three more years. Yeah.
So he's telling you, I got this fifth year option and I got two franchise tags.

Speaker 41 I'm not afraid to use them.

Speaker 33 That's nasty work too, though.

Speaker 33 That's nasty work.

Speaker 33 Matter of fact, to even mention that, to even say that.

Speaker 33 And though it doesn't surprise me based on some of the comments he said previously, yes, when talking about, well, just if I pay him that, doesn't mean he's going to be available because he got hurt.

Speaker 33 Like, what?

Speaker 33 That's still

Speaker 33 just.

Speaker 41 Have you been watching the documentary?

Speaker 33 No,

Speaker 33 I still ain't. I ain't still okay.

Speaker 41 In 1990, I think it was 96

Speaker 41 when

Speaker 41 he did the deal outside of the NFL, because the NFL with Nike, he did a deal with Phil Knight and Nike.

Speaker 41 And the league sued him for $250 million.

Speaker 33 Who won?

Speaker 41 Hold on. Come on.
They sued him for $250 million.

Speaker 41 Jerry turned around and countersued them for $700 million. Talking about they had a monopoly.
So they was at the owners meeting. They had the Norman call.
Okay.

Speaker 41 Now they asked Jerry to lead because they're about to talk about him, right?

Speaker 41 So, Jerry tells the story that he got up, he gets up and he starts to walk out because he knows he can't be a part of the meeting.

Speaker 41 Right, he said, I know, guys, you guys are suing me for 300 million, and you're going to try to take my ball club. He said, I know that's what y'all gonna do.

Speaker 41 He said, But I tell you what,

Speaker 41 I'm suing you for 700 million, and if I win, I'm gonna collect every effing cent.

Speaker 33 Wait, he talked, he talked, wait, hold on,

Speaker 33 He got cojones like that?

Speaker 41 He says, I know what y'all trying to do.

Speaker 41 He said, but if I win, I'm going to collect every, I don't care how long it takes. I'm going to collect every effing set.

Speaker 33 Timeout.

Speaker 33 What's the Cowboy documentary on?

Speaker 41 Netflix.

Speaker 33 Man, I'm going to watch this tonight, bro.

Speaker 41 How many episodes? It's like eight episodes.

Speaker 33 Oh, I got to to see that.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah, hold on, Pat, Paul, Tagley Boo, went for that.

Speaker 41 What are you gonna do?

Speaker 41 Because at the end of the day, look, them owners

Speaker 41 legal fees are coming out of their pockets, right?

Speaker 41 That's why every time they like, hey, the longer something goes on, litigation goes on, those billable hours.

Speaker 41 I know a little something about billable hours.

Speaker 41 When you start getting up there, OJO, you start getting up there $1,000, $1,500, $2,000 an hour, and everything is a charge. You call a how's it going? That's a charge.

Speaker 33 Right.

Speaker 41 They go down there and file. That's a charge.

Speaker 41 They answer a motion. That's a charge.

Speaker 33 Jesus.

Speaker 41 You in court.

Speaker 41 That's a charge.

Speaker 33 But that's a different ballgame, too.

Speaker 41 See, Jerry was saying, hold on. Jared said, hold on.
I'm doing four times what anybody else is doing,

Speaker 41 but I'm getting 130th of it. No more.

Speaker 33 Oh, that's crazy. No more.

Speaker 33 Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 41 Look. The one thing that the NFL don't like getting sued, that's why they kind of let this left Al alone.
Al said, Al said, I'm going to L.A. No, Al, you can't do that.

Speaker 41 I'll sue you.

Speaker 41 Al said, I'm going back to Oakland. Al, you can't do that.
I'm going to sue you.

Speaker 33 I'm excited. Now, how did

Speaker 33 it end? How does the story end with the NFL and Jerry?

Speaker 41 Jerry is the only one that's not a part of the revenue sharing when it comes to merchandise, when it comes to that stuff.

Speaker 33 So he pockets everything.

Speaker 41 Everything. That's the Dallas Cowboys.
The NFL said they own the logo.

Speaker 41 I said, no, you don't.

Speaker 41 I believe that logo.

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Speaker 36 All Pro Safety, Kyle Hamilton, and the Ravens have reached an agreement.

Speaker 33 A four-year extension worth $100.4 million is the largest deal for safety in NFL history, and the deal deal includes 82 million dollars

Speaker 33 guaranteed

Speaker 33 uh

Speaker 33 however they got a bigger deal looming lamar jackson uh his salary cap number is 43.5 million in 25

Speaker 33 74 and a half million in 26

Speaker 33 with um with lamar continuing he still represents himself here and his mom um

Speaker 33 are we headed for a long drawn out negotiation or is this going to be simple and painless?

Speaker 33 It's going to be simple and painless, simply the fact. This is quarterback number one.
This is the future of your organization probably for the next 10 years. Obviously,

Speaker 33 we saw Young Bull down there in Buffalo get his deal. I forgot what the numbers were, but I know I think it was in North was maybe 300, 340, something like that.
So 300 with 250, 250 guaranteed. Yeah.

Speaker 33 Guaranteed. So obviously Lamar is going to be somewhere probably going to leapfrog that in some way, shape, form, or fashion.

Speaker 33 Representation, being his mom, them having the right people in their corner, understanding how everything works, being that they've already worked one deal.

Speaker 33 So it's pretty easy where the numbers are going to be, and they're going to work it out.

Speaker 33 And I'm not, maybe, I wouldn't be surprised if it happens maybe before the season or maybe in the middle of the season, but it's probably going to be done as simply when it comes to certain players, huh?

Speaker 33 When it comes to certain players, especially this position, you don't play no games. You don't play no games at that position.
So the quarterbacks have nothing to worry about except just football.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I like them going ahead and getting this deal with Kyle or Kyle Hamilton out of the way. They tie it up.
The Ravens are normally very, very good about this.

Speaker 33 Their homegrown talent, they take care of those guys. They always have.
I believe

Speaker 33 they always will. You go back and look at the Jonathan Ognams, the Ray Lewis's, the Terrell Suggs, the Ed Reeds.
Those guys, they take care of their guys. They've always done that.

Speaker 33 They took care of Lamar. Now, they did make Lamar play, you know, or the franchise tag one year.
I was surprised. Well, he didn't play on the franchise tag.

Speaker 33 Nobody even put money down when how many guys

Speaker 33 needed a quarterback and could have given up easily two first-round draft picks. I don't think, I think that's the Gordon rate for a quarterback of Lamar.

Speaker 33 Two first-rounders, you'd have been gladly giving those guys up because, hell, you figure that when you give those guys up, that you're going to be.

Speaker 33 so far down in the draft, it's not going to harm you. You don't think when you get Lamar Jackson, you're going to be picking in the top 10 again.
With that being said, they took care of Kyle Hamilton.

Speaker 33 Now they can put their attention on Lamar Jackson. And I agree with you.
At some point in time, this deal is going to get done.

Speaker 33 They're not going into the season next year with a $75 million cap hit for a quarterback. Could I potentially see them doing something done, getting something done?

Speaker 33 It all depends on him. Because at the end of the day, Ocho, you said it, best.
He and his mom are their representation.

Speaker 33 They do have an NFLPA attorney, I think, to help them read over language and probably pay an hourly rate or something like that. That's better than giving up 3% to 4%.

Speaker 33 I'll pay you hourly. I'll give you, you know, 15, whatever the case may be.
Let's just say a round number.

Speaker 33 Let's just say $1,000 an hour for you to reel the contract to make sure everything's on the up and up. All the language is what it needs to be.

Speaker 33 But with that being said, he's not going into next season with no $75 million cap here. That's for damn sure.

Speaker 33 I think it's going to be, it's going to happen sooner rather than later that he's going to get something done. And I can see, I agree with you.

Speaker 33 I can see them somewhere at some point in time getting a deal done. If

Speaker 33 he wants to get it done, he might say, well, if we don't get this thing done by the first game, I'm done talking contracts until after the season.

Speaker 33 Yeah,

Speaker 33 obviously, when you think about someone like Lamar, someone like Lamar that I know personally, he's strictly football.

Speaker 33 When it comes to the business side of things, obviously he has mom right there to handle those issues. But Lamar is one that just wants to play football.

Speaker 33 and we we understand the nature of the business and you don't want to get yourself in any type of distraction situations that can take you from said game of football.

Speaker 33 But obviously, his eye is on the prize, and that eye is on the prize has nothing to do with money because he's already been paid.

Speaker 33 So, his focus is on doing what we need to do to dominate in the AFC North and contend and get ourselves to for one the playoffs and to get over the hump of getting out the playoffs and having a chance at the goddamn you're absolutely right.

Speaker 33 Um,

Speaker 33 look,

Speaker 33 the guy's a two-time MVP. Um, you're not gonna pay.
Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 33 You can't do that. We got to give him what he got.

Speaker 33 I don't care what the numbers say. He's a three-time MVP.
Now, they took one of those DCPs from him based on one of the best statistical seasons from a quarterback in the history of the game.

Speaker 33 So it was that I love Josh Allen, but last year's MVP was a damn here. That's what that was.

Speaker 33 I'm just being realistic, huh? That's one of the damn here. That's what that was.

Speaker 33 But you're going to pay Lamar Jackson, the guy that's not even 30 years of age yet. You're going to pay him, you believe, the next five to seven years.

Speaker 33 He'll still put up the kind of numbers that he's been putting up the last three to four years.

Speaker 33 30, 40 pass touchdowns still can give you somewhere between 500 and 800 rush yards.

Speaker 33 Low turnover rate.

Speaker 33 Like you said, he just needs to get over that hunt. He just needs to get that one time to play like Lamar Jackson in the regular season.
Because so many times we've seen him.

Speaker 33 He went like a stretch where he had eight, nine games. Lojo, he ain't didn't turn the ball over.
He didn't fumble the ball. He didn't throw a pick.
He did none of that.

Speaker 33 And then he got, I think in that playoff game, the divisional round against Baltimore, he ended up having two turnovers. Look, he still had him in position.

Speaker 33 If

Speaker 33 the tight end, if he catches that Mark Andrews, if he catches that two-point play, now we're possibly in the overtime or, I mean.

Speaker 33 The defense is going to have to stand to keep Josh Allen out of field goal range. And then we go to overtime.
We'll never know.

Speaker 33 But we have yet to see Lamar Jackson play in a big-time game come postseason like the Lamar Jackson that we thought should have won the MVP.

Speaker 33 See, because if that guy showed up, they go into the Super Bowl. And

Speaker 33 that's what we keep expecting, OJ. That's what we keep wanting to see because we know

Speaker 33 he has it in him because we've seen it. It's not like we're not asking Lamar Jackson to do anything he has not put on tape in the regular season.

Speaker 33 That's the only thing because we've seen him put on tape.

Speaker 33 He throw for 300 he'll rush for 50 70 80 yards we've seen him have three touchdown passes two touchdown rushing so we're not asking him to do anything that we have not already seen with our own eyes it's just that in the playoffs more times than not he's turned the ball over and

Speaker 33 yeah once he gets that out of his way you know it's sometimes it takes others longer to live

Speaker 33 We've gotten spoiled. Tom Brady went his first year starting.
He went.

Speaker 33 Patrick Mahomes, his first year of starting, he goes to the FC championship game the next year, his second year starting.

Speaker 33 He wins the Super Bowl. He wins regular season MVP.
And that's the same thing with Lamar. Think about it.
Lamar, his first year starting,

Speaker 33 he won the MVP.

Speaker 33 So we know who and what he can capable of. We just need him to be that person come playoff time.
And if he does that,

Speaker 33 the Ravens go to be hell because the Ravens got, they got a heck of a football team. They got a heck of a football team.
I think John Harbaugh is an unbelievable coach defensively.

Speaker 33 They got guys that fly around to to the football. They got Jaheir Alexander.
They got Wiggins outside. They got Marlon Humphrey in the slot.
They got Hamilton. They took a safety.

Speaker 33 I think they took another safety in the first round. They're good.
Roquan Smith, Matabiku. Look, they're loaded.

Speaker 33 They're loaded. They're loaded.
They got Bateman. They got

Speaker 33 the other ones. Zay Flowers.

Speaker 33 The running back.

Speaker 33 Ricard is back. They got Derrick Henry.
They got Staley is back. Lamar.
They are loaded. Now,

Speaker 33 Lively's gonna be out a little while because I think he got dealing with a foot injury. But they got Mark Andrews, who's been an all-pro, who's gone to multiple pro bowls.
This team is loaded.

Speaker 33 This team is equipped, and they should

Speaker 33 be thinking, hey, we got to take care of our, we got to take care of business and win our division, but

Speaker 33 they should have loftier expectations based on the personnel that they have on the team and based on the coach, the coaching staff that they have. But yeah, Lamar, they're going to get something done.

Speaker 33 43.5 million.

Speaker 33 That's not excessive as far as the cap, Ocho, but 75, yeah, that's excessive.

Speaker 36 During Terry McCarran's push for a new contract, age was cited as a big factor in the reluctance. Terry turns 30 in mid-September.

Speaker 33 That ultimately didn't stop the team from agreeing on a three-year deal without the wide out.

Speaker 33 At the press conference today, McLaurin was asked about his response to the concerns that neither he nor the deal will age well. The data is the data, but I think people,

Speaker 33 they're outliers. They're people who may not necessarily fit into that set of data.
Only time will tell.

Speaker 33 But I feel like where things are in my ability, in January, I ran like 60-yard screen for a touchdown. My speed hasn't diminished at all.
My toughness is there.

Speaker 33 If anything, my savviness of playing receiver has grown.

Speaker 33 Hey, listen.

Speaker 33 Honestly, I'm just listening.

Speaker 33 All the analytics and data and stuff that they have based on age and wear and tear and amount of miles on your legs none of that really matters no it doesn't matter to us it matters

Speaker 33 yeah no it don't matter us it just matters to those who cut those checks yeah that's all that's all and so they look at it from a business standpoint maybe i won't get another terry mclaurren i can get somebody that can give me half the production and i can i can put that money elsewhere that's the way they think but when it comes to a team that is on the verge of being able to go to a super bowl that has a young quarterback that you haven't had to pay yet you want to make a deal like this happen which i don't understand why they were waiting from a business standpoint why are we waiting are you serious about winning them getting that deal done for terry mulawn lets me know that they're serious about winning and the quarterback not having the power or leverage to be able to go upstairs and say listen we need to get this done we need to get this done because we have a small window of opportunity we have a good we have okay defense but i understand we could do offensively if we have number 17 in this room for us to make that run for lombardi hell we got to the nfc championship with him he was i'm not sure what percentage, but he was responsible for a high percentage of that offense, especially when it comes to throwing the ball in the air.

Speaker 33 So, what is there to play about? I don't care what data, I don't care what analytics say.

Speaker 33 I know what happens, I know what he does when you put when you turn that goddamn film on. And at 17, he's gonna show up every time.

Speaker 33 The question is, OJo, what we don't know, um, we're not privy to these conversations. Did he lower the ceiling or did they raise the floor?

Speaker 33 Oh, that's a good one. That's that's what you

Speaker 33 and I are not privy to those conversations. So, and what I mean by that, chat, did he lower his price or did they raise their, did they raise their offer?

Speaker 33 And, and, and so that's what we don't know. All we know is that the deal got done.
Um, you and I both think maybe it took a little longer than probably what it should. But

Speaker 33 in any negotiation, there needs to be a give and take because you, you don't want someone to begrudgingly give you something and then you guys become resentful of each other. But by the same token,

Speaker 33 you don't want to like, man,

Speaker 33 feel like you got screwed over because now you're going to feel like you, you know, they tried, they took advantage of you. So

Speaker 33 I think at this, at the number that he ended up getting, I think everybody can live. I think everybody can live with that.
He doesn't have to go in and play on that fifth year option.

Speaker 33 Now he gets to come. Now he gets to,

Speaker 33 I think. He gets to come in and get a good number.

Speaker 33 Like I said, OJo,

Speaker 33 what can he do with 32 million that he only needed 34 million to be able to do it

Speaker 33 right right yeah listen he comes in fair it's a respectful respectful offer obviously it's not the highest it's not as high as you want obviously because you are 30 but they found a happy median a happy medium for him his family wife kids they can be happy the team is happy Jaden Daniels gets his court Jaden Daniel Jaden Daniels gets his receiver on a nice peace sound mindset now all you can do the business side of it is over let's go play football let's play football and prepare prepare for week one with no distractions

Speaker 33 yeah we all go

Speaker 33 they're gonna have to do something with laram and tunsil they're gonna have to do something with louvu um they you know they what uh are they gonna do anything with marshawn lattimore um that's the question jayden daniels is coming up in after next year uh so you know they they got some other pieces and they needed to get this out of the way so they don't have this you know going into a next season with tonsil and low lovoo and those other and a few other guys oh joe let's go ahead and

Speaker 33 piece by piece because in two years you're gonna have to go see five i think he's number ain't king daniels five yeah uh you're gonna have to see it yep and it's gonna cost you a chunk of change now it's gonna hey yeah oh yeah oh yeah you have to do something strange for a little he go you have to do something strange to pay that piece of change

Speaker 33 And you got to understand, you got three quarterbacks, right? That's going to come up and it's going to break the bank for their team.

Speaker 33 So, you want to take advantage of those situations now over there in Houston. Boy, you better back the Brink truck up.

Speaker 33 Down there in Washington, you better be able to back the Brink truck up at some point. I think after the season, no, Caleb Williams got one more.
Uh, Bonicks, they finna have to back the Brink.

Speaker 33 But he got another year, too.

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah, he him and Caleb, him, him, and Bo Nick,

Speaker 33 be at the same time. All of them came out the same draft.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 33 oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. Come on, talk to me now.
Talk to me nice, too.

Speaker 33 Let me know. Let me show me how much you love me.

Speaker 33 It's gonna be, yeah. I mean, look, the thing is, you try to win as much as you can.
Um, because when these quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks, when it's time to dance, no,

Speaker 33 it kind of inhibits what you're able to do. You can't just arbitrarily go, okay, I'll just go get that.
Because when you have him on his rookie contract, you can do that.

Speaker 33 You can go get a guy and think about just one year. Okay, I think about just the now, just the here.

Speaker 33 But once you pay that guy and you talk about you paying a guy 50, 60, and you're looking at this case, you're probably talking about somewhere between 63 and 60, 67, 68 million dollars. Who knows?

Speaker 33 Maybe even you touch 70. Yeah, without paying.
Yeah. Without paying.
So you're looking at a quarter of a bill, a quarter, you know, a quarter of a billy

Speaker 33 guaranteed. So

Speaker 33 that's kind of where you're headed now. So with that being said, I think, you know, these guys, these general managers and the teams are trying to link the lock, lock these guys up.

Speaker 33 So we don't want to have to do, I'm trying to do Laramie Tunsil, I'm trying to do Lovu, I'm trying to do Jayden Daniels, I'm trying to do whomever else.

Speaker 33 Let me go ahead and get, do, I deal with one thing I can fight one battle at a time. I don't want to spread myself too fan.
Let me fight one battle at a time. Okay.
I got to fight Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 33 Let me go ahead and get this taken care of. Okay.
I need to deal with Tunsel. I need to deal with Lovu.
I need to do whomever. Let me deal with one individual at a time.

Speaker 33 And I think that they'll be better served with that.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 it was good that McLaurin got his money. And, you know, look,

Speaker 33 whether we like it or not, Ocho, everybody is losing analytics. Because guess what else everybody uses? AI.
Pretty soon they're going to come with AI. The team's going to be using AI to determine.

Speaker 33 Yeah. I mean, listen,

Speaker 33 the game of football is still football at the end of the day. I don't care what technology, what data, what analytics that teams try to go off of.

Speaker 33 Certain type of players win you championships. You're going to need your dogs in there.
There's certain things that analytics and data can't measure. They can't measure skill.

Speaker 33 They can't measure heart.

Speaker 33 Sometimes you got to use your eyes and goddamn common sense. The Panthers trade Adam Thielen to the Vikings that the veteran receiver returns home.
He is from Minnesota.

Speaker 33 The teams agreed to pop, to swap picks. The Vikings gave up a fifth round pick in 26 and a fourth round pick in 27.
carolina yields a conditional seventh round pick in 26 and a fifth round in 27.

Speaker 33 ojo did the vikings get better bringing him back

Speaker 33 i think they got better just the veteran presence in general just veteran presence in general having having obviously jordan adderson going to be out so you have adam thien that can come in right now and play and if you think about it i i'm sure people probably don't see or probably don't know but adam thieling and jj mccarthy they they worked out in the offseason together they they were getting routes and even though that's not his quarterback, they were getting some routes in.

Speaker 33 So there's a little bit of chemistry and familiarity in that area in that sense. So really Adam Thielen coming back,

Speaker 33 being able to acclimate right back to that offense, right back at home. I think they're going to be fine.
It's a great addition for them.

Speaker 33 And obviously, them, the Panthers, letting them go, let you know how good and how much they believe in that young Jimmy Horn made the actor rock.

Speaker 33 Jimmy Horn Jr. made the actor rock.
But you,

Speaker 33 you goddamn right, Jimmy Horn was going to make it. Jimmy Horn is one of the better rookies in the NFL, especially when it comes to route running and being able to create separation and get open.

Speaker 33 So I understood that. Hell, Jimmy was so goddamn good, they let Brother Hunter Winfro, Brother Hunter Winfro go.

Speaker 33 And Winfro is one, if considered one of the better route runners and also at creating separation and be able to get open. But that's how good, that's how good they are.

Speaker 33 Obviously, I'm very, very high, very, very high. And I've spoke highly of that receiving core over there in Carolina.
And

Speaker 33 if they're to have a year and want to compete, not only in that division, but have a successful season, it's going to be upon that receiving core leading brother Bryce Young to the promised land.

Speaker 33 So outside of that, I'm happy for Adam Thielen. He's going to be just fine back in Minnesota.
J.J. McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen.

Speaker 33 And when Jordan Addison comes back, that's a nice trio to have. And you spare Hawkinson, who's another year removed from that injury.
Aaron Jones in the backfield. Yeah, I like the move.

Speaker 33 This is a Carolinas opportunity. I mean, I would have liked for for him to stay there and help mentor some of those young receivers, Ocho, that they have in Carolina.
But

Speaker 33 Carolinas look like it's, I guess, it's time for them to grow up. It's time for them to grow up.

Speaker 33 We're counting on these young guys.

Speaker 33 You got Macmillan. You got Legette.
You got...

Speaker 33 Coco, you got Jimmy Horn Jr. Like you said.
So they got some young talent. Now it's just time for them.

Speaker 33 They don't have what you call a veteran presence in that locker room, Ocho, at the receiver position. They have veterans on the team.
But

Speaker 33 I like the move. Would I have been disappointed if Carolina said no, but they said, you know what? For a fourth round pick in 27,

Speaker 33 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We go ahead.

Speaker 33 We let y'all have this. And I understand Minnesota because, like you said, Jordan Addison is going to be gone for three games.

Speaker 33 So now we got somebody to come in that a veteran presence that understands the gravity and the magnitude of these games.

Speaker 33 they're in a very tough division, OJo. That Green Bay's in that division.
Detroit's in that division. We believe Chicago will be better in that division.

Speaker 33 So Detroit's like, nah, we don't want to have any excuses. We don't have any slippage.
We want to get off, hit the ground running. And I think Adam Thielen gives them a great opportunity to do that.

Speaker 33 So I like the trade for both. But if Carolina said nah, to keep Adam Thielen and to help him groom some of these young guys, I wouldn't have been upset at that either.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 But you have to understand why they let him go.

Speaker 33 I think people in the chat need to understand when it it comes to veteran players that are on teams and you have a young receiving core that is impressed not only in the preseason, but in training camp, that's the only time you let a veteran

Speaker 33 presence of a player like Adam Thielen go because you trust what you've already seen. You trust what those young, those young bulls have put on film.
So now we know, you know what?

Speaker 33 We're going to be okay. We're going to be okay.
And we're going to let them boys take the torch. And that's your thing.
Look,

Speaker 33 a part of us all want to go back home. You know, Dorothy wanted to go back to Kansas.

Speaker 33 A part of us want to go back to where it started from.

Speaker 33 And, you know, if you think about it,

Speaker 33 a normal time when a lot of people escape, where the first place they go, they catch them at home.

Speaker 33 They go back to old familiar surroundings.

Speaker 33 And so I think for Adam. Adam, you know, he's like, man, I'm from Minnesota.
I spent the first 10 years of my career in Minnesota. You know what?

Speaker 33 And my family, he's probably, Minnesota is probably going to be home for him. Man, I mean, he's probably probably thinking, didn't know if it would ever come to fruition.

Speaker 33 He's probably thinking, man, I sure would like to get home. I sure would like to, you know, finally play a last year or two in Minnesota.
And here it is.

Speaker 33 He's going home. And Minnesota pull off a swap.
They give up a fifth round pick in 26th and a fourth round in 27th. Carolina

Speaker 33 gets a seventh round pick in 26th and a fifth round in 27th. So I think everybody's happy, OJo.
But like you said, those young receivers in Carolina,

Speaker 33 they impressed enough that Carolina was willing to move off a veteran presence, a guy that's steady, dependable. You know exactly what you're going to get.
He's hardworking.

Speaker 33 He's a guy that can mentor the young guys. But they say, you know what?

Speaker 33 These young guys are ready.

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