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What's up?

Tom Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league.

I don't believe the quarterback position is as mentally developed as it was when I entered the league 25 years ago.

There was a a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups,

on, I'd say, pre-snaps, reads, getting your team in and out of the right play.

I felt the way to learn was to play the position over a period of time.

You truly give your team the best chance to win to be a field general.

I think you better have a mental advantage on the field.

And I think sometimes there's more important than physical advantage.

Ocho, do you agree with him?

Hey, do me a favor.

Uncle you said a whole lot right there that Brady said.

Break it, break it.

Listen, break it down to me

in our language.

He says

there was a premium on understanding defenses.

You had to understand what the defense was trying to do.

So now you go out there and you're looking.

You're not just looking at your guy like, man, this quarters.

Oh, this is covered.

This he got help over here.

So you needed to understand a pre-snap.

You're looking at the alignment.

You're looking at that triangle.

Okay, I see what y'all trying to do.

So he said, you guys need to have a pre-snap.

You need to have an understanding of what's about to happen.

Make sure you get your guys.

Okay.

Do not run a play into a safety that you can't block.

Okay.

That's a negative play.

So you just gave up or down for whatever reason.

Flip it.

Right.

I like that.

Audible out of it.

But listen, Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being number 12.

a standpoint of having the having the power and the ability to be able to change plays.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, it's a few other quarterbacks that I can name.

When they came to the line of scrimmage, no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how much bluffing you did based on down and distance, they already know from watching film, they know what the hell you're doing.

They know what the hell you're doing.

They know exactly where each play is going to be.

Yes.

Snap of the ball.

Even if you wait, even if you wait late.

And wait till he snap the ball and he still sees moving in front of him because once they snap, they looking right downfield.

Okay, if you if you was down in the box and and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they he already know what's coming.

And he knows every play you run, chat, every offensive play you run, especially when it's a pass play, there's always somebody open.

There's always somewhere to go with the ball.

And it's all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were the best at it.

They were the best at it.

Sometimes

you got to look at what those guys put in.

Because a lot of times, guys, so see, a lot of times, guys, now there's more important things than football.

Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady.

It was the most important thing to Peyton Manning.

So there was no life outside of that.

During the season, the most important thing was football.

They didn't play video game.

It wasn't no Call of Duty.

It wasn't no Madden.

It wasn't no doing all this.

They got all the commercials done in the offseason.

So everything that was focused was centered around how can I become the best football player I possibly can.

The question you ask yourself: is that what these quarterbacks today are doing?

Yeah.

And also,

you have to give some of the quarterbacks today.

Also, you have to give them a little grace.

You have to give them a little grace because they're starting the game so young, they don't have the freedom to do some of the things that Tom Brady's mentioning.

That takes time to develop.

They even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing.

And

just trust you.

Peyton Manning was the coach.

Yeah.

Brady was the coach.

But they know they put so much time in, though, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right.

You're right.

So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something and be like, you know what?

This ain't going to work.

We can't run that play.

Sometimes I've watched NFL games.

Wait a minute.

The defense shifted.

The defense of the line shifted to the right.

Change it.

Right running power or stretch to the right, right into the teeth of the defense.

Right.

I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be able to do that because their officer coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young.

No, you got to earn that.

The only guy that had that kind of freedom early on was Peyton Manning.

Yeah.

They turned the keys over to Peyton.

Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career.

He earned that trust.

Drew earned that trust.

Rogers earned that trust.

You have to earn that.

And that doesn't happen overnight.

It doesn't.

Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust in order to be able to be able to

audible in and out of plays, change a play, you know, things of that nature.

It's different now.

Oh, Joe, I came in the league, the quarterbacks called their own plays.

It wasn't looking at the wrist.

They called their plays.

John Elway called his plays.

Serious?

Yes.

He called a game.

Damn.

Yes.

Wait, no officer coordinator talking into.

He might say what you like here.

Okay.

Hey.

Yes.

Quarterbacks, the old court, the old guard, though, those guys, I came to the league.

Quarterbacks were calling

some of the quarterbacks, not all.

Some of the quarterbacks were calling their own play.

Yeah, he's like,

yeah, now you gotta get out of my ear.

Get out of my ear.

But

it takes a lot.

You have to put a lot of timing in.

And everybody, but like you said, you're talking about Brady.

running practice.

He's running walkthroughs.

He's running 707.

He's running, you know, two minutes.

He's running no huddle.

Tom is doing those things.

If you want a quarterback to have, you got to let him do it.

You got to let him do it.

I got to tell this story.

I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble or not.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this.

I don't even care.

I don't even care, chat.

I'm going to tell you about why the New England Patriots were so goddamn good.

Everybody in the chat, I know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant going off, cursing, and just,

he was on one in the beginning of the movie, Full Metal Jacket.

One day in practice,

Bill O'Brien, obviously, the officer coordinator called in the plays.

We're in practice, and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.

I'm in the huddle.

I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it.

So Tom's sitting there with his head down,

and he does one of these.

Give me the play.

Give me the play again.

And Bill must have said it again.

He didn't hear it because the thing, the communication must have been off.

And Tom looked back.

Give me the goddamn play.

Bill, I gave you the fucking play already.

I said it two fucking times.

Well, I didn't fucking get it.

What the fuck you want me to do?

Jesus Christ, we in the middle of practice.

We're in the middle of practice.

And at that moment, I understood this is why.

This is why the smallest things, that period we were doing where that one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't go right, we started the whole fucking period over.

Yeah.

We started the whole period over so we can get all the plays in succession and get it the right way.

Yep.

I'm like, what, what?

Yeah.

Bill over there

with the whistle on his finger.

twirling back and forth.

Yeah.

I'm like, man, what?

What are they running over here?

No, it was unbelievable.

There's so many stories.

I can share that one.

Some of the other ones is

a little too graphic.

Dog.

We, bro, we would go practices.

The ball wouldn't touch the ground.

Mike would come out there and say, I don't expect the ball to touch the ground.

For real?

Ball don't touch the ground.

Right, right, right.

Boy, look here.

People, people, man, look here.

If y'all look, like I said, them 90s Broncos, you understand.

Like, I understand why the Cowboys won in the 90s.

I understand why

the 49ers won in the 80s and the Steelers won.

Because there's a level in which you practice that.

Yes.

Not that you get it right.

You practice so you couldn't get it wrong.

That's a good one.

That's exactly how that's how we were.

And it was, you're so afraid to let the man next to you down.

And he's so afraid to let you down.

I'm not going to be the one to drop this ball.

No, that ain't going to happen to me.

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Man, Ocho, bro, look here.

Look,

I've never really been around Tom like in a game.

We played him.

I played him twice.

We played him

in 2000, with my first year back in Denver.

We beat him, and then they came, and Tom threw a touchdown pass with like 20 seconds to go in the ball game to beat us.

But being around him him and listening at him talk now

you understand why he's how he is yeah

you understand it you understand you understand it absolutely he's an animal

in film

in practice once he's outside that building completely different person yes i can relax now

different person it got to the point where

a few times i've always i've always told people

seeing tom brady seeing peyton manning seeing him in front of a camera hearing them talk it does no justice because they have to put on a fur a certain facade they have to mask who they truly are the fun side the authentic tom brady and peyton manning so nobody really knows who they are unless you know them personally yes some of the greatest some of the greatest funniest dudes ever And the fact that they have to remain a certain way once that camera is rolling,

it's unfair.

It's unfair to the world in general because you never get to see the real them.

Everything you see is that political robot that says all the right things

that patriot way.

But outside of that, dog, Tom, you talk about funny.

Dog.

I used to hate OJo.

You know what I hate?

If somebody mess up, everybody get punished.

Punish him.

That's bad, OJ.

Don't laugh, man.

Because, man, you out there running.

I mean, somebody jump off sides or somebody do something and we all gotta run because

their thought process was if it happens in the game he's not the only one that's gonna get punished we get punished as a unit you yeah right right hold on that might be happening but i'm on the side ocho if the offense with dan reeves if the offense jumped offside even if you ain't in the game you had to run

Wait, even if you're not in the game.

Yes, if you're not even in practice, the offense had to run.

Right, right.

Oh, Lord.

Hey, listen.

Hey, Dan, like one band, one sound, baby.

Yes, one band, one sound.

Every time you jump offside, Ocho, you had to, you had to run a lap.

Lap was around both football fields.

So it's like that's 400 yards.

Man, why I had to run three one day, Ocho.

Three,

somebody jumped off sides.

No, me,

me,

man,

Lord, have mercy.

Dan, hey, boy, Dan, Dan was old, old school.

You heard how people talk about Coach Landry and how those old school coaches was.

That's where Dan.

Dan was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys under Coach Landry.

So he brought Coach Landry style.

If you see Dan back when he first started coaching, he got a hat on, he got a shirt and tie, he got a suit on, just like Coach Landry.

Now, he never really folded his arms like Coach Landry, right?

Because Dan called the plays.

Coach Landry turned some of the play clawing over.

That was it.

I think people said that was some of the thing between him and Roger Starback because he didn't really want to let the reins go.

But, oh, man, yeah.

But I showed, I was like, damn.

I don't know what it was, Ocho.

But you know, you get tired, Ocho, you be thinking, I was like, damn, is it one?

Was it on one?

It was on two.

But the ball, the ball right down your inside of your.

Man, I ain't looking at that old ball, man.

I'm looking up.

Damn that ball.

One thing about it, boy.

Hey,

I never forget my coach, Coach Bud, Miami Lakes Optimus, 1988.

Fatigue will make a fool of us all.

Yeah, it absolutely will.

It absolutely will.

But I remember that, man.

All the running.

And then, like, we have guys like the guys that make weight in training camp.

They have to run 110s after practice.

So we've been out there for two hours, Ocho.

And, you know, you might have to run 10, you might have to run 12.

Man, you know,

I run with the guys.

You know, especially if one of the guys is in my group, one of the tight ends.

Right, right, right.

Or we have to run, we have to run after practice.

So we might have to run 10, 12, 110s.

I'm coasting.

I'm cruising.

They're like, pick it up what?

For what?

As long as I'm making.

So y'all was, y'all team was different.

When my team, obviously not me, but when we were overweight, you know, it cost money a pound.

You still had to pay, but you had to run to get up.

You got to pay, you got to pay, and you got to run.

Yeah, yeah, you got to get up off you somehow, man.

Please,

I ain't never had no problem with no weight.

I ain't never had, you know, but I always, I always set my weight because I wanted something to fight for.

You know, as I started to get older, uh, Mike would say, 84, you know, you sure you want to come in with this?

I mean, you can come in a couple of pounds.

I was like, nope, I want to come in this right here because I'm going to come in and then, you know i'll come in at 232 230 ish um by the time the first game start i'm gonna be at 228.

by the time the season end i'll be at 225.

already i already know got it time got it planned down to the t tick tick tick tick tick just like this know what i'm going to eat i know when i'm going to eat i know how much i'm going to eat i know how much protein carbohydrates fats

i know all of that um

but i i just think that you know that's just to discipline what it takes ocho to to be the best yeah because that's what we that's what I was trying to be.

I was trying to be the best.

I don't know what somebody else was doing.

All I can do is me versus me.

I'm going to get everything I can out of this God-given talent.

And then, hey, what he didn't give me, I can't complain, but he did give me discipline and heart and work ethic to get the most out of what I can do.

Ocho, what do you think the most difficult position is for a rookie?

Defensive position.

Oh, defensive back.

Yeah.

Defensive back.

Oh,

absolutely.

Coming in, coming in, coming in from college, the speed of the game has changed.

The players you got to go then, the players you got to go against are a little bit more polished than what you saw in college.

Everybody's fast.

Everybody's fast now.

You know, so really understanding who's in front of you.

Making sure you discipline your eyes, your text.

I discipline.

Everything matters now.

Once you get to that next level,

I mean, listen, you coordinators can hide you sometimes.

You know, put the safety over top of you.

I mean, man, listen, man.

DB, the most difficult.

Well, hey, not when you got one-on-one and you ain't got no DB over the top of you.

Because did y'all, I'm assuming y'all did.

Hold on, I'm trying to think.

Did y'all do one-on-ones every day or y'all just did one-on-ones on Thursday?

Probably Wednesday and Thursday.

Yeah.

Yeah, because you know Wednesday, Wednesday were obviously open field day.

Yeah.

Thursday is red zone.

So we'll do red zone one-on-ones on Thursdays.

Friday, Friday is a combination of both.

You know, practice only an hour on Fridays.

Oh, yeah.

That was,

yeah, it was,

it's funny that I think about like, man, but that was the, I really truly felt

that at practice is when I was getting better.

Ocho, if I could be the guy that sees me every day, have seen me every day for years.

Yeah.

What chance that guy got in the game?

On Sunday, and none at all.

Zero.

None at all.

Bro, I don't even see you.

Just so you know, I don't even see you.

All that you're talking, okay?

Got something for you.

But that man, I just,

but you just understand people

get to where they need to go doing different things, Ocho.

Yeah.

I was,

it was the end-all-be-all.

Some, oh, Joe, I had teammates.

They had to go out

Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night.

They got to.

Right.

They got to.

They missing something.

Something might happen and I ain't there to see it.

Like, bro, how?

How?

Man, I got to get, man, I got to get me.

Like, I'm in the bed.

Oh, you're in the bed at 10.

Yeah.

Hell, I was old way before my time.

Hell, I was in my 20s.

I was in my 20s to go to bed

at 10.

Yeah.

Yeah,

we're in the same boat in a sense, but you, you were here and I was out here.

You was like, I mean,

oh, man.

It's the same way when I was in college.

Oh, Joe, when I was in college, I was a teenager.

Oh, yo, I'll go to bed at 10.30.

Sleep.

Out.

Yeah.

Out.

Man, boy, I just

come in there and cut that light on.

Yeah, I understood early in college, at Lanx University, at Santa Monica, going out costs.

It costs money.

And I ain't spending no money.

So it was easy.

It was easy for me not to go anywhere.

And not going anywhere, gaming, my money, my money I had to have to spend, it was spent on buying games.

That was it.

That's where my money went.

I mean,

I didn't really watch no football games, Ocho.

I would only watch a football game,

a Monday night game, Ocho, if we weren't going to play that team during the season.

If we're going to play that team during the season, I ain't watching it.

No, nope.

Because I didn't want to have a false sense.

Because if they look bad, I didn't want to think, oh, we're going to run through them.

Or if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our work cut out.

I got you.

But

I've always been a guy that got in the,

like I said, in college, I'm 10 o'clock.

And don't be running out of there.

Because, you know,

I was just reading something, a kid, I think, 11-year-old kid in Houston just got shot again, Ocho, playing that knock, knock, ding, ding thing.

Playing on people's porch?

Yeah.

Dig, ding, dong, ditch.

Yeah, man.

Man, Ocho.

Guys in college, Ocho.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Beat on your door.

Knock on your dorm room, though, and

I'm one.

That was me.

And listen, you talk about Ding Dong Ditch.

My condolences to the young bull that lost his life in Houston doing that.

But I was doing that too back in the city.

I never forget Scott Projects.

Scott Projects, me and Snoop Minis.

I don't know if you remember Marvin Minister.

Yeah, I heard of him.

I don't know him.

Man, we was little kids, man, and Scott Projects.

Man, Knock, knock, knock, taking off.

I remember them days.

Oh, there's some good days.

That was like

my rook, my freshman year.

When I got to be a sophomore,

and I was the BMOC.

Right.

Don't do that.

What BMOC stand for?

Big man on campus.

Okay, okay, okay.

Oh, yeah.

You with that boy, huh?

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

My side for my sophomore, yeah.

And definitely my junior and senior year.

Oh, yeah.

You with that man.

Man, y'all know how sharp is, man.

Yeah.

But,

nah, nah, nah, Ocho.

I'm just, I just, but I needed my rest.

I done, I done did.

Look, I done practiced my ass off.

Coach Davis don't have us out there for two, two and a half hours.

I done gone to the study hall, did my homework.

I'm out.

Oh, you're I got to get up at seven in the morning.

I got class at eight, so I got to get up, shower, put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria, eat breakfast.

Time out, time out.

You schedule your classes for early in the morning?

Oh, yeah.

Boy, look here.

Bill Davis say, look here, you ain't on no academic scholarship.

You own a football scholarship.

Boy, you couldn't have no class.

You couldn't have no class.

The latest, you could have a class.

We had practice at, we had practice at three.

The latest, the absolute latest.

Right.

Bill didn't want, Coach Davis didn't want you to have a class after noon.

My class was 8, 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12.

I go eat, 30 minutes to eat, eat, then I go get me go get me an hour and a half nap, get up, walk the practice.

We had to walk to practice.

We couldn't drive to practice.

I had to walk to practice, which is like maybe a half a mile.

Practice for two, two and a half hours, go to the cafeteria, eat, go shower, go do my homework, 10 o'clock, 10.30, lights out.

You better than me.

I wasn't there.

I get up early, but I ain't getting up to go to no class.

The only problem that Coach Davis, look, Coach Davis, i love coach davis today the only time the only time he and i budded heads

5 a.m workouts

that's the only time that's the only time i've ever told a coach coach i ain't gonna do it

5 a.m

i'm not gonna do it But it's not the middle.

That's not the military.

That's like, that's like army.

That's like, you know.

Nah,

they tripping.

Man, you know, you had the all-season workouts, Ocho, five o'clock.

Me getting up early, Ocho, it just like ruined my day.

I feel like I'm sluggish the rest of the day.

Did you have to get up early?

Yeah, man.

I hated it.

And plus, I had had to get up

my senior year

before I went to Savannah State, Ocho.

We had,

we did construction, we did landscaping, and I had to work in Savannah.

Now, I lived in Glenville, which is 65 miles away.

We got to be on the job at 6 a.m.

So the guy picking me up at 4.30,

I said, nah, man.

I ain't doing that.

I said, Coach, I can't do it, Coach.

I said, Coach, I can't do it.

I said, Coach, I can't do it.

There's a guy, he said, Day, I'm home.

He'd say, you the leader.

I said, well, coach, I'm going to have to lead from the bed.

I'm gonna have to leave from my dorm room.

And he didn't bother me because he know I know what I was there for.

I was very specific when he came to recruit me at Savannah State.

Right, he came to my house to sign me that morning.

When I said a coach, I called him and said, Coach, I want to sign with Savannah State.

He said, I'm gonna put some clothes on.

I'm coming right now.

I said, No, Coach, you can come in the morning.

I was very intentional about what I wanted.

Right, I can't do that.

I can't do that.

Yeah.

What I can do is what I can do.

Tom Brady says Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history.

Aaron, in his prime, to me, is the greatest passer of the football the league has ever seen.

He could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history.

You agree?

Absolutely.

And, you know, if anything, you might want to throw Brett Favin there, too.

I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football.

When I think of great throwers of the football, I'm looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers.

I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino.

Danny.

Wait, you don't put, whoa, whoa, whoa, you don't put Brett in that conversation?

Not a great thrower of the football, no.

But I understand what he's saying when he's talking about Aaron Rodgers, though.

The arm, the slots, the angles in which he can throw the ball from the platform.

Every last one.

From up here all the way down to the sidearm.

It didn't didn't matter.

And he was accurate as hell.

Yes.

Accurate as hell.

But then, obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers' mechanics, his footwork, that's not teaching.

You don't teach that.

You cannot.

You would never that.

He throwing off one foot, he throwing, going back because he has arm strength to do it.

He has arm strength to be able to get away with some of the stuff that he does.

Anything Aaron Rodgers likes when it comes to playing a quarterback position, you can teach it because he's the only one that can get away with it because he has the arm.

But I still, to me,

the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is Dan's season in 84.

Yeah, but the Dolphins.

Yeah.

He threw for 48 touchdowns, 5,000 yards.

In that era, when you could knock hell out of the quarterback, you could knock hell out of the receivers,

and he did that,

that's still the greatest for, that's...

That is Joe Burrow's season his last year at LSU.

That's what that would be the equivalent of.

You got to go.

And look, like I said,

back then, the defenses could punish the quarterback.

I'm talking about annihilate them.

There wasn't no, well, you know, you hit him in the back, you hit him in his knee, you hit him below the waist.

And

that was the greatest season.

But

I won't argue with Tom on this one.

Aaron Rodgers, the way he could, the platforms, the arm slots that which he could throw the ball from, and the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle on the field.

he's like, none of them,

he's gifted.

He was gifted.

And the funny thing about it, a lot of people, a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers is trash.

Like,

if you've watched the game of football, when Aaron was in his prime at Green Breaker, with Donald Driver,

Jordy Nelson, Devontae Adams.

Man.

Oh,

he had Greg Jennings.

Greg Jennings.

James Johnson.

Yes, but he could sling it, boy.

Uh-huh.

He could slang it.

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CD Lamb denounced rumors that Michael Parsons was considered both egotistical and self-centered.

That's my dog.

He knows it.

I expressed to him just about every week I could.

So he knows.

So I feel like he knows where we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship, and all that.

So obviously wishing him the best.

Hope he has the best season ever.

Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room liked Micah, and he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys.

He didn't name names, but it's pretty clear Diggs was referring to DeMarcus Lawrence.

I think everyone liked him.

I feel there were some former players who are not here no more who didn't like Micah.

And there's a lot of that, I would say, hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field.

Imagine if you could come here and you're talking like somebody shine or taking somebody's spot.

You're not going to like that.

They're going to feel some type of way, especially you're that type of person.

The greater the person, listen,

because sometimes I think people,

the greater the athlete

the greater the individual

the bigger the ego

quarterbacks have the biggest ego they do the best job of hiding it

the greater the person the greater the player the more accomplished the person is

so So are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego?

Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, and Mariah ain't have no ego?

Are we saying, are we saying Elon Musk and

whomever got no ego?

So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown ain't have no ego.

They all do.

The greater the person, the more accomplished the person.

Or successful.

Yeah, all of them.

Man,

what we doing here?

Everybody's not going to be liked.

and that's okay

what you do what you do when you get on the field bro as long as you ain't a jerk not long as you're not doing you know doing anything that's gonna that's gonna harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room bro i don't care nothing about that bro yeah yeah

first of all i ain't going i ain't going to your house like that anyway

so what you do i don't care you leave look This is my locker right here, Ocho.

This is my locker right here.

Long as you don't F with nothing in my locker i don't give damn what you do

i ain't messing with nothing in your locker you got a job to do i got a job to do yeah and that's man how you do

we don't have to be friends

we can be friendly yeah two different things ocho i mean this is a locker room huh you got 53 people you got 53 people everybody's not gonna get along yeah

Everybody's not going to get along.

You're going to have egos.

You're going to have people with pride.

to have jealousy, you know.

And it's just, it's always, it's always been a part of sports.

It's always been a part of locker rooms.

It's always been a part of teens in general.

You're not going to like everybody.

Nope.

You're not there.

This is not a liking contest.

You're there for one job.

Do your job.

I like it.

I like you more if you do your job good.

I like you even more.

But

look, I look, I don't, you know,

clearly CD

and Diggs has a fondness to

with Micah.

I've been around him a little bit.

I don't have no problem with Micah.

Never had a problem with him.

He's a funny, funny dude.

That's why

hearing anything come up about Ego,

especially when it comes to him,

he's a funny guy.

He's young, you know?

It's weird.

It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.

We knew that was going to happen.

Funny how that works.

You ever notice

the guy was a, oh, he was a problem on the job.

15 for 20 years.

Ain't nobody say nothing.

The moment somebody leaves.

Yeah, yeah, he was a problem.

Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too.

Yes.

Let's add that.

The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the 2025 season, Monday, but there is one glaring omission.

For the first time since joining the team in 2022, Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.

Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from a game from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.

Mike McDonnell had a very revealing quote.

I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year.

The team was much more unified and the focus was on those six guys was very clear.

Those were resounding vote getters.

We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to guys that had earned it each and every day.

That speaks to me the most is football team that knows who it wants to be led by.

Yeah, that's cute.

That's cute.

It's commendable.

You know, having your peers on your team, vote you as a, you know, vote you as a captain.

Yeah.

Nope.

You know, honestly.

That'd be nice, man.

I wanted a captaincy on my jersey.

That's cool.

But honestly, for me, my dolphins, my dolphins, and those of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born in Jackson Memorial Hospital,

off 12th Avenue.

What I care about is: is my Dolphins playing well in the postseason?

Is my Dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above 500?

Is my Dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees?

I don't care who's carrying that C on that goddamn chest.

I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters matters most.

That's it.

That's it.

I mean,

look, there's no way

it'd have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and he's a captain.

It couldn't have that.

They weren't going to let that happen, no joke.

Even if he got, even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't going to be no captain.

They wasn't letting that happen, no joke.

You know that.

I know that.

We know how it worked.

We know

who they want to be, Captain.

Come on, okay, Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

We're on the same page.

We're here.

We're here.

Yeah.

But look, look,

I think Reek learned a valuable lesson.

I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way.

He's going through some stuff right now.

Reek, my heart goes, I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player.

I absolutely do.

And I know that's a lot on your mind.

Anybody, you know, being there,

it's going to be, hey, don't, don't work, bro.

It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it.

But when you're going through it.

So,

I mean,

it's tough.

Because, like, you do things and like you, you in an Ocho, you're like, and the minute you do it, you're like, damn.

But I don't, I don't, I mean, Reed was in a great situation.

Yeah.

He went to Miami.

That's where he wanted to go.

I mean, they could have traded him someplace else.

They asked him.

I mean, think, Ocho, think about this, Ocho.

They ask you, where do you want to go?

You want to go to the Jets?

You want to go to the Dolphins?

Yeah.

They put him where he wanted to be.

And I get it.

When you had the season come off, he led the league and receiving.

Hey, remember last year, Ocho, he was the number one player voted by his peers in the top 100.

Yeah.

Your quarterback gets nicked.

You're not the same reek.

People like you lost.

No, he didn't lose it.

He didn't lose nothing.

It's just that, you know, his quarterback got hurt.

He's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone.

The guy's been injury prone since college.

He limped into the NFL.

He probably gonna limp out of it.

He had a lot of injuries when

he was at Alabama, Ocho.

You know, he had the tightrope surge on his ankle.

He had the dislocated hip.

He had the injury, the pinky.

He had an injury history.

Yeah, and guess what?

He's had a concussion.

Oh, I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins.

And Tyreek's future is tied.

His success,

his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, Joe,

you

relying on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work.

man.

It's tough.

It's tough.

And then he didn't, he didn't make it no better

because he could have just went in there and says, I'm happy to be in Miami.

It's great, great weather, great team.

But every chance he gets he tried to take a shot at Mahomes.

Oh, Tua is more this than Mahomes.

Oh, this is that.

And this is, bro, you don't need to do that.

Nobody, you're not, even though you play with both, you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback than Mahomes.

You're not.

So why you try to do that?

I believe you could, oh Joe, I believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down.

Yeah.

Well, in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down, especially in that comparison.

when it comes to the quarterback position.

But

I think Rick has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up of last year.

Obviously, them not voting him a captain.

Boom, that's another one.

Okay, y'all ain't want to vote me a captain?

Okay, hold my beard.

Watch this.

Watch this.

Ain't he finna go slap?

He finna go off.

I hope so.

He go slap off.

Because, I mean, you know, he's a special talent.

There are not very many guys that's been played in the history of the game that had his God-given ability that can take a route, that can take any route on the field.

And

he's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goalpost.

Now we say that, oh, you give him a five.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them

and you can strike up the band.

Yeah.

Every time.

And you see the, you see, hey, you see the,

he's doing that, the band player.

Yeah.

And Rick has that accountability.

He just needs to get back to that.

And hopefully he can focus.

I think being on the field, it allows you to like, tunnel visual visual with Joe.

Yeah.

It allows you to lock, you lock in.

You got to compartmentalize.

That's what the really good ones are great at it.

That's the one place.

Doesn't matter what's going on in life.

You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass,

it's different.

Everything else is left outside.

No.

No, I didn't.

No, somebody said you put

Tua down to put Tyreek up.

No.

I just said he's not Mahomes.

He's a good quarterback.

He's not Mahomes.

And Tyreek's

production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

Did I lie?

How many concussions has he had?

How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama?

I'm just giving you facts.

I ain't say he wasn't a, he a bad player, he a terrible player.

That's not what I said.

I said, Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone.

That's factual.

That ain't no, that ain't that ain't no, you know, stretching the truth.

That's not a lie.

That is just factually correct.

Yeah.

And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys.

But if you go back and look at it, look at his production.

It's 1,300, it's 1,400, it's 1,500, it's 1,300, it's 1,400.

It didn't have, though, it didn't have 1,800 and then 900.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

That's what I'm saying, Ocho.

Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1,600 one year, then 1,000.

1,200 one year, then 800.

Nah, you want to be consistent.

Hey, let me be somewhere that consistently.

Let me be 11 to 12, 1,300.

I can live with that.

Now, one year, if I won't have, you know, have one of your bust out years, I get me two or three 200-yard gains.

I'll be on to something.

But nah, I just think the thing is, and like, you know, you're emotional.

Things didn't go your way.

You're like, damn, I want to get 100 yards.

I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know, yard season, oh, Joe.

That's going to come to an end.

Damn, we're going to miss the playoff.

That's going to come to an end.

Yeah.

And he just got fussed.

He got frustrated and it bubbled up.

That's all.

It bubbled up.

Made a mistake.

He probably,

and he said it.

You know, I should have handled that differently.

Wish I'd have handled it differently.

And, And, you know, lesson learned.

And

I believe he learned his lesson.

I do.

Yeah, absolutely.

You're going to bounce back.

Yeah.

But, and I think McDonald says, you know, let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain.

Let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain.

They're deserving.

They're the captains.

That's who they want the lead.

Bradley Chubb.

It's time for Chubb to come out there and, you know, play like the Chubb, like they gave up the draft picks to get him from Denver.

It's time for him to play.

It's time for him to show.

Because it looks like, oh, they kind of taking this thing apart.

They let, you know, Kalais Campbell go.

They let Jalen Ramsey go.

They let some of the, you know, they let Christian Wilkins go a few years ago.

So it seems like, you know, the going for it, going for it, going for it, now they're like,

they're getting younger and younger, huh?

Getting younger and younger.

Yeah.

So we'll see how it works out for your Dolphins this year.

Shadur Sanders

seems to be the talk of college football after Arch Manning's disappointing debut.

Fans are calling out the double standard for Arch Manning's pro debut, Pope Poor debut versus Ohio State being excused while Shadur wouldn't have gotten the same grace at Colorado.

Why don't y'all call out Arch Manning, Nepo Baby, like y'all did, Shadur and Bronnie?

Ocho, it's Arch Manning getting a free pass from the media just because of his last name, while Shadur would have been torn apart for the same performance.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, obviously, I mean, that's the way it's always been.

That's the way it's always been.

I think watching Dan Orlofsky, Dan made some

good excuses up there, you know, for

Arch and the way Arch played.

And

obviously,

it's just the makeup.

The makeup of the media makeup is the DNA and the way they treat certain quarterbacks, depending on who it is.

And they give them grace.

They give him grace all the time.

And this happens all the time.

It does.

And some people will turn a blind eye to it and say, oh, that's not true.

They'll come up with some damn conspiracy theory when it's like right there.

It's right there in your face.

Right.

In your face.

What are you talking about?

Yes, they're going to continue to make excuses for him.

If he has another bad game, I think obviously now they, I think now that they played Ohio State, some of the games leading forward, going forward will be a little bit more easier.

And

boom,

they're going to be right back to talking good about him.

And we told you he was a generational talent.

They're going to go right back into it.

But I mean,

that's neither here nor there.

I think he's going to continue to get better.

Obviously, opening up a season with a team like that

is for someone that's been under the helm, been under center for two or three years consistently, as opposed to this, your first year starting against Ohio State?

And please.

Well, but here's the thing, Ocho.

Those are the kind of throws.

That's who I want to see him make those throws against.

Yeah.

So what the hell you think, so what the hell you think the NFL is?

Yeah.

Every week, same thing.

Just think about it, Ocho.

If you go out there and you play a good, a good inferior talent, but when the talent is on your level or better and you lay eggs, what does that say about you?

Look, it's a one-time thing.

It can be a one-time thing, but we can point out the fact that he didn't play well.

Yeah.

Because

he might go on and come back and he might win the Heisman, but two things can, you know, two things can be true.

He cannot have played well against Ohio State and still play well enough the rest of the season to win the Heisman or win the SEC or whatever the case may be.

Two things can be true.

When Shadur played, I said, Ocho, look,

it still bothers me that he bails too much it still bothers me that he holds onto the ball it still bothers me we can give credit he made some big time throws ocho yeah i love the dagger throw i love the throw where he threaded the needle he led the the seven route for the first touchdown i love the over routes that he throwed we see a lot of those from brock purdy yeah i say but but Ocho still holds onto the ball too long.

Too long.

Man,

I thought you were supposed to be Coach Prime boy.

Why?

Because my my job is to critique and analyze.

Two things can be true.

I can be Time's boy and still critique his son and say there are some things that are concerning for me.

Yeah.

That's how the job works.

You give credit when due, and then when someone you see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he played well.

But there's some things that

let's go ahead and correct these now before they bite you at the most inopportune of times.

See, people don't want you to like,

if,

oh, that's your boy.

No.

Oh, oh, time your boy.

You kill it and I know.

That was a poor game on Saturday.

Yeah.

I mean, was that Friday that they played?

That was Friday that Georgia Tech played, right?

Friday.

I said it as soon as we got on.

I said, oh, Cho, what was that about?

A minute and seven seconds, you got two timeouts.

You throw one pass behind the line of screaming.

The guy tackles you.

You don't take a timeout?

Yeah.

I said that.

Oh, oh, oh, your boy.

Oh, you killing your boy now.

I remember last year, he could do no wrong.

No, when he does right, you point out the right, but when he does wrong, you point out the wrong.

That's what you do.

Yeah, you're fair.

And time will tell you.

And, like he has so many times, one thing you're gonna, you won't know, you're gonna call it now.

And he said, I expect that.

I'm your boy.

You call it your boy, so you better call it over to everybody else.

And he's absolutely right.

Do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round?

But do away with the draft.

Man, stop it.

Who y'all fool?

Who y'all trying to kid?

Man, stop playing.

That ain't happening.

That ain't happening.

But I can see a scenario he comes back.

Cousin Manning's normally, normally four years.

Now, obviously, that's not Peyton.

That's not Eli.

But, you know, they're normally very scripted,

very methodical about how they're going to do things, Ocho.

Very strategic.

And plus, Ocho, his family is not in dire need of anything.

Right.

A lot of times, these families, you know, it's like, bro,

mom in the projects.

Grandma over here, ain't no food in the refrigerator.

The house leaking.

Come on, bro.

Had to get out of here.

Yeah.

And I understand.

I totally understand.

Bro.

I think my brother told

the story.

I think he said it on my podcast because he thought about coming out as a junior.

And

they asked him why he didn't come out.

He said, we have been poor for 22 years.

Eight more months won't go hurt nothing.

That's a good one.

He was right.

Hey, I have been going to the woods, Ocho, for 19 years use the bathroom huh yes yes sir i had dipped the bucket down in the well

pull it up poured in something take it to the house i had been running the holes that inside the house and put in the tin tub let the sun heat it up take me a bath in the backyard couldn't nobody see what up but woods summer was bad because them skeeters tear you up ocho i mean think about it oh you're you got to take the rage

try to put you a shield around hair up take you a quick bath, cut them skeeters, boy, they like they had swords.

Bam.

No.

But I understand.

I understand.

Art's job is to get better.

He went to Texas because of the success that Sark has with working with quarterbacks.

He could have gone anywhere, but he chose Texas for a reason.

And it's not by accident.

So could I see a scenario where he stays another year?

Yes.

And we got to, look, he didn't beat Euras out for the job.

Ewers were the seventh round pick?

What round did Euras get drafted in?

Sixth to seventh?

Right, he went to the Dolphins.

I forgot what round he went, though.

Seventh.

He went seventh.

Oh, no.

But I think, hold on.

I think Derek Carr was the first overall pick, and he couldn't beat Billy Bollick out.

See if Billy Bollick went to Fresno State.

V-O-L-E-K.

I think that's Bollick.

Derek Carr.

He played with the Tennessee Titans.

Yeah.

I know.

Didn't he go to Fresno State?

Didn't Derek Carr come behind him?

I don't think Derek Carr beat him out.

So

it's not.

I mean, Joe Burrow transferred, became the number one pick.

Jamison Williams transferred.

Become a number one pick.

Joe Burrow was the number one pick in the entire draft.

Couldn't get no shine at Ohio State.

Look at that sink in, Ocho.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

So

this notion, well, he didn't do that.

Things happen.

So you're saying Joe Burrow's not any good because he couldn't beat.

I forget the guy.

What was it?

I think it was the guy that passed away, Ocho.

The black guy that got hit.

Dwayne Haskins.

Yes, yes.

Things happen.

Yeah.

OJo, Vegas has Lamar Jackson at the back.

He's back on top for the MVP odds.

The reigning MVP, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600.

Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650.

Is this the year?

Lamar puts it all together, wins MVP and

a Super Bowl.

I mean, it could be the year.

It could be the year.

If it was going to happen,

this is the funny thing um when it comes about when it comes to not just lamar jackson but josh allen

and all those other quarterbacks in the afc it's always going to be the same the same same four it's going to be the same four same four now what lamar jackson do we get in the playoffs

what lamar jackson do we get in the playoffs that's all that matters because we know what he's going to do in the regular season yes we're going to put up crazy numbers yes gonna rush for crazy numbers but what Lamar Jackson, whatever Lamar Jackson we get in the postseason, that will be if those odds in Vegas come true.

That's all it come down to.

And that's all I've said.

I said, I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finish second.

We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs.

We've seen it for a game, Ocho.

But we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year.

They didn't turn the ball over.

He didn't turn the ball over for like eight, nine games right and then he had two big turnovers and that was you know some of that's undoing like look and i get it such a hold on to the ball uh uh zay flowers fumbled on the one but he did give the he did give uh uh

the chiefs a short field he got stripped in the pocket

i just need lamar to be lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season.

I don't need anything else.

I don't need to be, I don't need anything else, Ocho.

I don't need him to be anything other

than what he's shown us for the 17 for the 17 games in the regular season if he's that

if he's that player can't nobody beat the ravens nobody

nah

well i don't know about nobody ocho the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks hold on hold on now

don't jump on me don't jump on me

This is a new season.

With everything you just named, it's what he did last year.

Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal with in the AFC North.

They own y'all.

Come again, they own y'all.

Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bingles.

Let me do something.

Is the Ravens that's your team, huh?

Oh, or your supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at?

Two years.

Okay, two, two years, two weeks.

It's all the same.

You want to bet something on that game?

Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money.

Huh?

Oh, you know, hey, listen, I'm good for it.

Like, when I go to the city.

No, you ain't good for it.

Hey, when I go to the casino, they just hand, they just give me what I want because they understand.

Oh, Ocho, you here?

Oh, we know you.

We know we're going to take care of you.

What you need.

No.

What's your money line?

I will file a butcher column on you.

I'll press charges on you.

I ain't do nothing.

How you going to press charges?

You owe me $5,900 and you won't pay.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

is it written on paper?

They heard it.

Oh, yeah, they got it.

We got it on paper.

Where is it?

I didn't sign nothing.

I'm you ain't got to sign it.

We got it.

We got a verbal contract.

You bet me.

A verbal contract.

Yeah, Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract, too.

We got this.

I showed a tape.

What is it?

Your honor, here it is right here.

This is

oh, yo, I bet you.

All right, guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q and A.

And I can't wait till they get in the third, right?

Dr.

Frankie L.

Bellamy.

Hey, fam.

When I was watching Debo and Joe today, all I could do was look at Debo's arms and think, Lord, he's going to kill my poor cousin, Ocho, greatest addition to Shay Shea Media.

He's going to kill who?

Ocho.

I don't think she understands.

Someone that size with that much muscle they can't move

they gonna get they they can't they can't move we we we get so enamored at size and big and strength and you know lifting all that heavy weight that don't mean nothing that don't mean nothing i'm gonna take james harrison nose and i'm gonna turn it upside down so we can smell his forehead like i'm not playing with him man this this like it's it's like it's getting serious at this point and in february that's when it's going it's february this is going down going down going down.

Yeah,

chat.

Make sure all y'all be there, too.

Rob J said, Coach Belichick is going to be all right.

Takes time to learn the system.

Frustrated fans, this game should have been called the Poorly Dressed Head Coaches Bowl.

Man, y'all know what y'all gonna get with Coach Belichick.

Man, y'all know Coach Belichick gonna be wearing some

bull jobs.

Every time with no sleeves.

Chris Baller said, You can be the greatest head coach in the world, but if you don't have the players that can execute at a high level, you're not going to be very good.

Plain and simple.

Chris, that is very, very true.

MSQ said, If you put all the best current college football players, no matter their graduating class, on one team, could they beat the current worst NFL team?

No,

I'm

hype headed to UT because he's a manning quarterback with mobility unlike his uncles.

Not saying that he's be like his uncle, but hope he balls out since the first rogue game was against the defending champs.

Yeah.

Trey Tyner says, Ocho, I heard you call Fam U the best HBCU other than you might have forgot North Carolina A ⁇ T University, Aggie Pride.

Listen, I love North Carolina A ⁇ T.

I've been there a few times.

I've been there with the football team, the coaches.

Uh, obviously, the band is as well.

My daughter had a track meet out there.

I forgot the name of that soul food place.

I got in trouble too.

Um, I took all the football players to the soul food place and treated them to eat.

It sits right in the plaza in the corner, it was really good.

But the greatest HBCU of all time, you know, often imitated, never duplicated.

Savannah State is the lustrious

Florida AM Marching 100, the blue and orange, Savannah State, the SSU Tigers.

Who?

The SSU Tigers.

Oh, I thought when you say SSU, I thought you was talking about like the Navy and like a ship.

Nah.

I would not be a doctor.

I tell you the reasons why.

I've been a tiger for all my life.

I'm going to be a tiger till I die.

It's so hard.

It's so hard to be a tiger.

It's so hard.

It's so hard to be an SSU

tiger.

Don't play with us, Ocho.

We bought that.

We damn.

All right.

Sound good.

The Reform Try Hard said, how big is coaching for you in football?

It's very big.

Just from the outside looking in, Bamboo was posting videos like they on Soul Trade before the game, and we saw what happened.

That never happened when the man was there a few years ago.

Absolutely not.

The man ain't there.

Yeah, he had all the players, too.

Yes.

That's the difference.

He had all the players.

Again, we talked about a a great coach, but a great coach has great players.

It's easy to be able to execute, which is why Alabama looked like the Alabama we're used to seeing.

They don't look like that now because all the players are going in different places.

You think about it, Ocho.

I mean, he's had 52 first-round draft picks.

First round.

Orlando Pinon.

If Jerry Jones doesn't bring it up Cowsboys, you still think the Cowboys go back to back?

That'd have been very, very interesting.

As a matter of fact, Michael Irvin and I was talking about that.

Emin and I, we have that discussion a lot too.

They were loaded, man.

They were good.

They were really good.

We had to be on our best behavior.

Our absolute best behavior.

Absolutely.

But Jerry Ego wasn't going to let that happen.

Got in the way.

Still getting in the way.

Yeah.

Deshaun Allen said, what's up, Uncle Nocho?

My My question is, which position has the most players in the Hall of Fame?

If I had to guess, probably quarterbacks.

I was just going to say quarterback, probably.

Probably.

I could be wrong.

I mean, of starting positions, probably tight ends has the fewest.

We're not counting special like punters and kickers and things like that, Ocho, returners.

Right.

But

what it says?

Safeties?

They got the fewest?

The lost?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because you got centers, guards, and tackles.

And all that were considered an offensive line.

Scoop Banks say, shout out to my birthday twins, January 9th, 1990.

We go into Tootsie's.

What's how you spell it?

Yeah.

Unc, you want to go with us?

Nah, man.

Oh, Joe, I got to be on my best behavior.

Oh, Joe.

I'm sorry.

Unfortunately.

Listen, listen, listen, Uncle, whoa, whoa.

We can't do that.

We can't.

What we can't do is we can't go into the shell.

We are all human.

We all make mistakes.

You learn from your mistakes, but you still have to live your life.

You have to enjoy yourself.

Hey, we on the other side of the mountain.

Never forget.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're on the other side of the mountain.

Okay, so we still have to live.

You could, you could.

I think I got about nine.

I got about eight.

I got about eight, nine more months, Ocho.

Okay, okay.

I'm on probation.

I got a probationary period.

Yeah, yeah, eight, nine more months.

You got your little ankle monitoring right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They got me.

They got me.

September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May.

Yeah, probably by birthday.

Probably by my birthday.

I should have been, you know, sitting pretty.

Yeah.

Yeah, it is.

There it is.

Okay.

Yeah, I'll be sitting pretty.

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So they're going to talk about, I'm sure they're going to talk about this game.

This happened tonight.

TCU in North Carolina.

TCU 48.

North Carolina 14.

Coach Belichick's college debut does not get up to the start that he had hoped for.

I am up.

He's Ocho.

We will see.

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