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But first, Ocho, this game.

I didn't, man, Minnesota.

I'm speechless, Ocho.

Because Minnesota was just going around like, how long, Justin Jefferson, before he throw his helmet up in the stands?

Because they did not target him.

JJ threw a horrible pick, you know, horrible pick six.

You know, that deep out, if you late and inside, he got a reservation for six in the end zone.

And the next thing you know,

Minnesota has seized control of this ball game.

I'm almost certain.

The Chicago Bears spent $94 million,

on offensive linemen.

They got a new center.

They got a new left guard.

They got a new right tackle.

Oh, Joe, I couldn't tell.

No.

Caleb Williams running for his life.

If Caleb Williams was Jared Goff, he sacked 10 times tonight.

Easily.

Easily.

He's running for his life.

And I was like, hold on.

I thought you and I both, because we talked about this, said, oh, they improved the offensive line.

They got Roma Doomsday.

They got a DJ Moore.

They got Zacchaeus.

They drafted a tight.

Got another tight end.

They got Cole Komet.

Defense seemed to be flying around.

And they got Ben Johnson calling plays.

DA is the Dennis Allen is the new DC.

I say, I like Chicago.

Rebamped offensive line.

Ocho, the offensive line looked the same, if not worse, than what it did last year.

Give Minnesota credit.

I have to give J.J.

McCarthy a lot of credit.

Theoretically, he's not a rookie, but last year he got hurt in his rookie season.

But this is like his rookie season.

To throw a pick six on the road and not and not get down ocho and to come back and throw two touchdowns and to win this game in your first start give jj macarthur some credit yeah absolutely listen watching this game on i really i really thought i was i thought at some point i thought the bears were going to run away with this one i did too caleb williams looked like houdini back there obviously when being able to process dropping back when things don't happen one of the few quarterbacks in in in nfl that can make something out of nothing when things break down he looked good made made some very good throws obviously once the pick six happened

once the pick six happened and jj jj left that out route inside i was like you know what yeah at this point i this this one's over

this game is over um man jj kept on plugging he did

kept on plugging a play here a play there he also being a dual threat quarterback being a both of them both of them could move with the ball too huh yeah for sure yeah both of them move with the ball man before you know it, man, we got a ball game, baby.

We got a ball game.

Uh,

you're looking at it, oh Joe, you throw that out route.

You got to be early and outside because if you, even if you late, it's going to

be knocked out at worst.

Yeah,

and no, it'll be knocked out at best.

The worst thing that happened is a pick six going the other way.

But if you late and inside, oh, yeah,

and you got to have, you got to have an arm.

You know, most coaches, coaches don't.

You throw it from the bar hash all the way out.

You got to have an arm.

So obviously, JJ Musk got a gun on him for the coaches to be comfortable with him even throwing that ball.

But it's all about placement.

It's all about you.

You want to miss far rather than miss inside.

When he catches that ball, Ocho,

he out of bounds.

You catch it, you get two feet down, you out of bounds.

Yes.

Basically, when you throw that, when that Joker planted that right foot, that ball needed to be in the air.

Because he's running on the spin.

Now, he's not stopping, so he's running a speed out.

Yeah, yeah.

So when he hit, so before he hit, that ball got to be in the air.

When he speed out, when he 10 roll to 12.

Yeah.

He got to drop in his hands.

When his eyes turn

back to look for the ball, that ball already got to be in the air.

Oh, for sure.

He got that ball got to already be in the air, and he got to catch the eyeline of the ball in flight.

Not watch it leaving your hand because if it's leaving your hand.

Oh, it's way too late that guy way it's way too late and you see first of all ocho the dude playing off yeah so once he see now he ran the out and up he cooked but you see how hard he you see how hard he drove on that ojo so he knew he knew hey once he once he saw uh uh uh uh jetta put that foot in the dirt yeah he goes y'all you run it out i'm driving this and you gotta trust it though because a lot of guys they held his head like i don't know what if it's an out and up and you know you might get there to knock it down He's like, nah, I'm going to trust this.

If they got an out and up, coach, oh, well, they got on this one.

That's what I mean.

I'm taking this one to the house.

But Minnesota, I didn't see, I didn't see no, I saw no sounds of life because think about it, Ocho.

Like I said, the score was 17 to 6.

17 to 6.

And the next thing you know,

Minnesota scored 21 unanswered.

Chicago got a late touchdown, got a late touchdown to make it 27-24.

But I I think Minnesota going on the road in a hostile environment.

This is a division game,

and they're doing it with a rookie quarterback.

And for him to put up the stats that he did, look, it wasn't, you know, 13 or 21, 43.

They ran the ball 26 times for a buck 20.

But for him to go on the road in that environment and to do when things do not, because look, Ocho, if he'd have got off to a great start, I'd have totally understood them winning.

But it got off to a shaky start.

And for him to keep plugging away and keep plugging away

his quarterback coach is josh mccown i say within three years josh mccowell is a head coach oh josh what you're over under three years old head coach yeah probably

especially especially with quarterback success anytime you coach a pacific position and that pacific position continues to succeed on whatever team you're coaching especially if it's the quarterback yeah yeah you you're gonna get your opportunity yeah definitely gonna get your opportunity he played a long time you know back up made some plays.

I mean, I think he played like 17, 18 years, don't you?

A long time.

Yeah, he played a long time.

But Minnesota, you got to give Minnesota credit, Chad.

Because, like I said,

I saw nothing that would make me believe that they had a chance to win this game, especially through the first three quarters.

I saw nothing.

I saw no life, especially offensively.

Now, give the defense credit,

and the DC, who's the former coach of the Dolphins, give him credit because he had those guys flying around.

They're making plays.

Van Greenkel and Hargrove,

those guys were flying around tonight.

That's one thing he can do now.

He dialed up that defense.

They get after you.

He's about the Vikings.

Vikings, D.C.

Brian Flores.

Flores, yes, yes, Flores.

Oh, give him credit.

He had those guys playing.

They were getting pressure with four guys.

Occasionally, they're bringing extra pressure, but

I thought Chicago would be better because they invested in what many thought was a weakness, which is their offensive line.

Toony is an all-pro, a Pro Bowl player.

They got Jackson from the Rams.

I forget where the center came from, but they got it.

And I'm like, damn, are y'all sure?

Yeah.

Did y'all forget how to block?

Did y'all forget how to pass that?

Did you get out of run block?

I was like, because

this is

a recap of what it was last year.

Last night, basically.

Hell, J.J.

McCarthy, he threw two TDs in less than what, three, four minutes?

Yep.

Yep.

Matter of fact, it's games like this, like what we saw last night, what we saw tonight, where people say, oh, man, 17.60s game is over.

You know, they go do something else, go in the garage and come back in, and the Vikings win the game.

Oh, man, hell no, this shit is rigged.

Man,

you know everything rigged.

This is all rigged.

And listen, it was surprising to me too, but to actually watch it unfold, I'm like, well, god damn, I see why people say that, but then you think to yourself, no,

it ain't rigged because I haven't been out there on that field.

And the momentum, you know, when the momentum, when the momentum, hey,

moment away, it does not matter.

That's what I try to explain to people, Ocho.

Yeah.

When you have the momentum, you're going to have it because the momentum is going to swing.

You get it.

They get it.

You get it.

They get it.

They get it.

How much separation can you put between you and the team when you have the momentum?

Because they're going to get it back at some point, absolutely.

And if you haven't put enough momentum, if you haven't put enough space separation,

they're going to come back and bite you.

Well, you would think with that momentum, you would think a 17-6 lead is enough,

is enough space to not lose the game, but you have JJ coming together in that fourth quarter.

Right.

Well, who the hell is

well, if you think about it, Ocho, that's really, that's not a, I mean, 17-6, that's really a touchdown, a two-point conversion and a field goal it's not like the ravens last night the ravens were up 15 with under five minutes to go and so now ocho you need a touchdown you need two touchdowns and a two-point conversion just to get even yeah

just to get even So that was a little bit more formidable, especially, and it's still, like you said, it's the fourth quarter.

But I thought that was a more of seemingly an insurmountable lead than what we saw tonight.

But considering you you got a rookie who hadn't been doing much, that is, look, no matter what you thought about Buffalo, they do have the reigning MVP.

They do have a guy that you know he can go crazy.

We haven't seen anything from J.J.

McCarthy that would make us think that the Minnesota had that in them other than pride.

Other than this is the division rival.

And we know them.

They know us.

Because guess what?

Ben Johnson,

he was at Detroit last year.

So offensively, even though he's at another team, Brian Flores already know what he's going to run because I've been coaching against this guy for the last two, three years.

So

I know who and what he is.

The only thing changed is the color of the uniforms.

Now,

O'Connell is going to have to go back and fill out, look at say DA and see what he ran when he was in New Orleans.

You know, maybe pull out some tape when he was the head coach at

the Raiders or old footage of when he was in DC at Denver.

But for the most part, they know this offense.

They know Chicago's offense because Flores has been coaching against Ben Johnson for two to three years.

But

I was very disappointed in what I saw from Chicago, Ocho, offensively.

You think so?

Yeah.

You got two number one.

Okay, you got Roma Dunze, number one pick.

You got DJ Moore.

You got Cole Komet.

You got Zacchaeus.

You got Loveland.

and you got the number one pick in the draft, and you rebuilt your offensive line.

You spent $94 million, 55 of it goes this year towards that offensive line, and the offensive line doesn't look any better.

Yeah.

You had Chicago.

You say Chicago was your surprise team.

I did.

I did.

You did.

So you should be surprised also.

They look like this.

To me, to me,

I'm throwing caution to the win simply because it's week one.

That's all.

That's all.

And I've done that.

You notice when it comes to the week one games,

I haven't been too crazy.

The way the Dolphins look,

the chances of them actually looking that bad again in back-to-back weeks, it's slipping to none.

It's the NFL.

So

because it's week one, I've given almost every team some grace.

Now we get down the road, Duncan.

We in week three and

we in week three or week four.

And stuff is looking like what we saw tonight, allowing teams to come back from, you know, being down in the deficit like that and they come back and win in the fourth quarter what happened the other night with with baltimore yeah

scoring 16 points in a four minute span in an nfl game in one quarter no they scored 20 they scored 22 points in the fourth quarter they scored what 28 in the second half yeah hey what we talk about in uh in in real life not a video game real life yeah you know josh because josh had like 240 something passing yards if i'm not mistaken in the fourth quarter alone.

He was crazy.

But again, week one, eh,

I'm going to give the Bears really some grace.

Watching Kayla Williams made some good throws, had to run for his life.

He had to be Houdini.

Yeah, man.

Oh, my goodness.

Things happened.

And I don't know.

Joe Tooney

would be

the captain.

Left guard.

Yeah, he would be the leader of that.

offensive line.

And I think Jonah Jackson they got from the Rams.

I think Dalman or Dahlman, I'm not sure.

I just glanced at his name when he was on the back because it was, you know,

you could see it.

And the next thing you know, it was sideways.

I couldn't see it because he was chasing somebody that was going by.

But this is not

what Ben Johnson envisioned.

Like you said, it is the first game, but I just thought

I would see more.

I would see better from what I saw

from the Chicago Chicago Bears.

But give Minnesota credit, they go on the road basically with a rookie quarterback, and they get a very hard-fought

division win.

So they're tied with Green Bay at 1-0 atop the division, and the Bears and the Lions are 0-1.

They're at the bottom of the division.

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Yeah,

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Coach Brian Dayball said, Dayball said there were never a serious decision make

despite rookie Jackson Dart waiting in the ring.

Wings.

Russ will be the starter.

Russ went 17 to 37, 168 with no touchdowns or interceptions in the season opening loss.

He was especially ineffective under pressure, Ocho.

Two of 12, 26 yards with two sacks, two scrambles.

New York managed just 231 yards of total offense, installed twice inside the red zone.

I think the last thing you want to do, Ocho, is start a rookie on the road in Dallas, a division rival, hostile environment.

All things being equal, I would rather start him at home or coming out of the bye.

So I get that little extra time to prepare.

But what you think, Ocho?

I mean, listen,

there's no question, not the to panic you're hitting the panic button after week one obviously if you watch the game if you watch the giants play against the commanders hell russell is running for his life too now what he does have to do he has to settle down in that pocket a little bit i know you're getting upside the head i know you're getting hit upside the head sometimes take the first throw you see and just let it go because you're holding on to the ball waiting for things to develop and you don't have the time for that to happen no and it showed It showed.

Listen, if I don't, I don't, again, in situations like that, with the defensive line on top of Russell Wilson, where he can't make the throws or see the passing lanes that he wants to, I'm getting the ball out right away.

Right away.

Understanding what defense is in front of me and whatever my first read is, boy, the ball is coming right away.

So get your head around.

I want to get the ball out right away,

but nobody's open right away.

Because the thing I'm trying to do is I'm trying to take that first throw away.

And I look, first of all, Ocho, there got to be lanes.

Russell is only so tall.

It's not like he's Josh Allen.

It's not like he can see over the lineman and see down the field.

He needs lanes to be able to see.

All things being equal, he'd like to buy some time.

He'd like to be, you know, a little outside of the pocket so I can clearly see.

See, yeah.

But

I agree with you.

I think maybe if not after the first game.

No.

But I still believe over under eight games that Jackson Dart is going to be starting.

Now, it's going to be interesting to see.

There's reports that they might have a package or two for Jackson Dart on Sunday.

The question is, do you think they have a package on Sunday in Dallas

for Jackson Dart?

Or they just let they let Russ ride it out?

Let Russ cook.

Let him cook.

If you're the head chef at the restaurant, right?

If you're a head chef at a restaurant, you don't want one of the waiters outside coming in and telling you how to cook.

You don't want them coming in and messing up your rhythm as a quarterback.

Listen, if Jackson's already going to sit, allow him to do just that.

Allow him to sit.

If Russell Wilson is your head chef, let the man be quarterback number one until you decide to make a change.

Hell, you might not have to make a change.

You might not have to.

But why?

Why prep?

Why prep Jackson's art and getting him ready?

What message does that send to Russell Wilson?

What message is it?

If he's quarterback number one, let him be quarterback number one.

This ain't college.

This ain't high school.

Okay, you know what?

We're going to make some special packages for this individual because we're getting him ready to play.

I don't like that message.

I don't like what it sends to Russell Wilson.

Let the man play until he loses his job.

I remember when

they drafted Lamar Jackson,

they had packages for him.

Yeah, yeah.

You keep saying they say let Russ click, but people keep sending the dish back.

So, how am I going to keep letting

somebody right on Choe, they keep sending the dish back.

Hey, hey, boy, you sharp, boy.

You sharp.

That's a good one.

Deborah sent the dish back.

Pittsburgh sent the dish back.

I mean, people keep sending the dish back.

Seemed like the Giants hadn't been pleased, but they say, you know what?

Let's order something else.

Maybe it was what we ordered that wasn't up to our standard or to our satisfaction.

Let's order something else.

What do you recommend?

Chef Wilson?

Because sometimes to you go to a restaurant they have what they call uh chef's choice yes

whatever you like chef you do do what you do how would you like that prepared chef's choice

yeah you're right

so i i just i i i i i think i i think that's the kind of the direction that uh um

that the giants are going to head in um

can we um can we get dallas can we get uh the giants schedule Can you put it up right quick?

I think that's going to be more than anything, Ocho.

Yes, sir.

Because the last thing I want to do is,

I mean, let's see Philly.

Okay, Philly's on the road this week in Kansas City.

That's not going to be an easy game, but Kansas City is going to be without the two top receivers.

It looks like Worthy is dealing with a dislocated shoulder.

I told you, you talk about AC.

I said, nah, the way that the way that collision, because like you said, Ocho, you, I mean, mean, just imagine you running one and not up.

Yeah.

I said the same thing.

Remember, I said it was grade three.

Yeah, well, I thought, I thought it was a separate.

Yes, it's a, they said dislocation, separation.

Um, so it means it should

came out.

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh, oh cho.

Let me put a jersey on.

It's cold in here.

Chat.

They just lost to Washington.

Then they got the at Dallas, Kansas City at home, Chargers at home, at New Orleans, Eagles at home, at Denver, at Philly,

the Niners at home, at Chicago, Green Bay at home, at Detroit, at New England, Washington at home, Minnesota at home, at Las Vegas, Dallas at home.

They got a smoker.

So basically you look at that from September the 14th

until

November the 2nd, they got Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers

at New Orleans, we'll see.

Philly, Denver, Philly, Niners.

Chad, what y'all thinking?

What y'all thinking?

How many wins in there?

At Dallas, Kansas City at home, Chargers at home, at New Orleans, Eagles at home, at Denver, at Philly, Niners at at home how many wins y'all see

whoo

boy unless something unforeseen i mean

man they're gonna have to be on their best behavior they're gonna have to really play their ass off because

who that

i was just i just went over their schedule and uh they got they're at dallas So I just went over their schedule from September 14th, which is Sunday, all the way to November the 2nd.

So they're at Dallas.

They get Kansas City at home.

They get the Chargers at home.

They get the Saints on the road.

Eagles at home.

Denver on the road.

Philly on the road.

That's their next seven games.

But that's a nice little schedule, too.

That's a nice.

And listen,

not only is it a nice little schedule, it's a great test for Russell Wilson.

It's a great test for Russell Wilson to see if the ball wants to continue with him going forward or throw Jackson Dart out to the Wolves.

We keep calling for Jackson Dart to come in and play.

And

that is a rookie, and this ain't preseason.

What you're going to get out there in these regular season games where they're trying to confuse your quarterback and get you thinking to throw you off your pivot?

It's a different ball game.

It's a different ballgame.

And everybody, oh, let's put Jackson Dart in, put Jackson Dart in after one game.

All right.

All right.

But boy,

They got a little tough schedule, Ocho.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

They got a tough schedule.

The Cowboys.

Kansas City at home.

Oh, my God.

Back.

The Chargers at home.

Then they're at New Orleans.

Then they get Philly at home.

They can breathe a little bit.

Oh, my God.

At Denver.

At Philly, the Charge, the 49ers at home.

Hey, I don't know who made that schedule, but that's

personal.

Yeah, they go to.

I just, when you look at it, though, Joe, is that the Giants are really like, okay,

we don't want to

like.

Because everybody thinks that, like, if you go to a rookie, you're kind of giving up on the season.

Basically, is what you're saying.

But

I don't want my fans because, but the fans booing every time we come off the field when we don't get no first downs and we punt.

Well, listen, they're going to be boring extra loud.

You put Jackson out there and you can't get no first downs.

Well, I think people are more sympathetic to a rookie not getting a first down as opposed to Russ not getting first first downs because they're looking at Jackson Dart as their future.

They're not looking at Russ.

They're like, man, look, Russ is just the placeholder.

Right.

Understandable.

So,

but like you said, I mean,

the first two games on the road, that's never easy.

Even if you got one of the better teams, it's tough to win on the road.

It's tough to win in the NFL.

It's even tougher to win on the road.

And basically, they give you two division opponents you start the season with two division opponents on the road yeah

hey those those first five or six games that they have in general yes i mean the really probably the only game they're going to be favored in oh cho is probably i don't even know they'll be fighters favored against the saints because the saints are at home They're not going to be favored against Dallas, Kansas City, the Chargers,

New Orleans at home.

They're not going to be favored.

Excuse me.

New Orleans on the road.

They're not going to be favored at philly at home they're not going to be favored at denver on the road philly on the road or the 49ers at home they're not going to be favored

that's nasty work

whoever did the schedule that's nasty work

yeah i don't

i mean their defense is going to have to like keep them in keep them in some of these games

yeah

But and I think in order for that to happen, that means your offense can't turn the ball over.

You got to possess the ball some because if you don't possess the ball enough, you'll wear your defense down.

And then

a crack will turn into a full-blown, you know, overflow.

Yeah.

So

that's what the Giants are up against.

Like I said, I don't envy the position that they're in because they've got some tough decisions to make.

They bent on one guy, Daniel Jones, and that wasn't it.

They went back into the draft.

They like Russ, okay, hopefully Russ can hold us over until next year.

Maybe he can, maybe he can't.

But

clearly, they view Jackson Dart as their future.

But they've been, you know, and the offensive line, the offensive line isn't good.

If somebody would have told me Evan Neal would turn out to be the player that he's turned out to be, he's not good.

Alabama, Consensus All America, 6'7, 340 pounds.

They showed him he's jumping up on something with one leg.

Ocho, big for no reason.

He ain't paying out the way you thought.

No.

No.

Hell,

if they didn't pay up all that money, he'll be a big-ass equipment manager.

But they got 50-bit, 50, 60, but they got all that money tied up in it.

He was a top 10 pick.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, when you look at him.

He's supposed to be the left.

They move him to the right because your left tackle is supposed to be your most athletic offensive lineman because he's dealing with the Miles Garretts.

He's dealing with the Micah Parsons.

He's dealing with those level of guys, the Bond Millers.

But so they took it from the left and put him on the right.

So normally that's your run side.

Most people are run right-handed, dominant.

They run to the right side.

The 49ers buck that because big Trent T Dub is a dominant run, but most teams they run to the right.

They put him on the right side, don't you?

I mean, he's just like

slowly I turn step by step.

And he got on on going by him.

Going by him, yeah.

I'm like, dude.

Yeah.

If they move him from left tackle, they don't trust him.

Oh, no, no, he didn't.

They don't trust him.

That's the quarterback blind side.

And that's

the kind of money they paid him on.

He's supposed to be at the left tackle because that's the money position.

Oh, that's what they drafted him as.

They drafted him as a left tackle.

Six foot seven, 325 pounds, 330, 340.

Agile, I mean, in college, but that just goes to show you.

So, a lot of times, you play them big guys in the name.

Oh, man.

Right.

Man, them guys in the NFL don't give a damn about your name.

They don't care nothing about that.

Oh, at all.

Alabama, man, you heard about that big offensive tackle.

He favored the winter outlining, the Lombardy, and this one, and that one.

And so you played at Alabama, you played at one of these prominent schools.

People might fear that.

Don't nobody fear nobody in the NFL.

At all.

I got kids to feed.

Yeah, absolutely.

Hey, i got bills to pay i don't care who you play for you

hey you finna get it's worth yes

worth of it well

i didn't go to alabama and i ain't got no big time boosters i went to savannah state and we ain't got no big time boosters that's offering jobs yeah and all the coaching positions are filled and and and general john say he wasn't hiring me as a general manager of his car dealership so i was gonna be out of work

if somebody gonna be out of work it ain't gonna be me that's all i'm I'm saying.

It ain't gonna be me.

I got choice.

We got two choices.

We got a choice to make.

You and I both got a choice.

One of us going to be out of work.

I choose you.

Now, who you nominate?

Ocho, who you nominate?

Please.

But I'm just surprised, Ojo.

I just thought that he was like, I was like, man.

But if you go back and look at it, a lot of those offensive linemen from Alex Leatherwood

and Jonah Wick, a lot of those guys didn't pay out.

Yeah.

Dickerson, he got hurt.

He won it towards the ACL.

Hell, he might be that best lineman.

And they got another one that I think he played center at

the Colts.

But all the rest of those top linemen,

Pork Chop Womack.

Right, right.

It's different.

It's different.

When the level of competition evens out and you're playing against grown men, all the stuff you did in college, unless it carries, unless it carries over

and you're who we thought you were, you'll get exposed, huh?

Right.

That's you're you're exactly right.

Because, like you said, people got guys got, and just imagine, if you're supposed to be this hot shot guy and I go through you, what did that do for my confidence?

I ain't looking at you.

I'm looking, because I heard what everything's everybody, you're a top 10 pick, you all these, all these credentials at the University of Alabama, It all SEC, first car, all unanimous, all American.

Out in the trophy.

Man, please, that ain't got nothing to do with me.

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All right, oh, Joe, joining us right now, linebacker Dayon Henley.

Day Jan, how you doing, bro?

Chilling, man.

Good to see y'all, man.

Better, good to see you.

OGs.

No, no, I'm only, I'm only throwing 23.

I'm only 23.

Not OGs, man.

The OGs.

I appreciate that, bro.

I'll gladly accept that.

Big game Friday night.

You're on the road in Brazil.

You get there a little early.

You understand what's at stake.

Look, your guys went to the playoffs last year, but the big dog on top of the mountain that you guys trying to topple, the Broncos trying to topple, they're the team that's

the red and the white.

They've been at the top of the mountain for 12, 13 years consecutive.

And you say, you know what, Coach Harbor come in there with that attitude and says, nah, you know what?

It's time for a new king to be in the kingdom.

What were you guys' thought process?

How did you guys go out there and get this job done?

I mean, like you just said, we already had that mindset that we was going against some guys who've been, you know, known to run the conference, not only the conference, but the league for the past few years.

But we're in a different era right now, as far as our team goes, as far as our organization.

It's Jim Harbaugh.

And we're trying to show that right now.

That's our brand of football that you just seen that Friday night out there in Brazil.

And that's just what we're trying to drive throughout the rest of the the season, not only just for this season, but for years to come.

And, you know, to, you know, be the best, you got to beat the best.

And at one point, it was a Chiefs, but we also got them dudes in green this season, too.

So we're looking forward to it.

We're looking forward to all the cops.

We want all of it.

Yeah, I really enjoyed what you guys did Friday.

Obviously, Justin Herbert doing what he needs to do and putting the league on notice and defensively.

Y'all young bulls out there flying around playing with tenacity, being physical, you know, coming to the party, you know, as a group.

So looking forward to the next game, what do you think you guys need to do to continue to make sure you solidify yourselves as true contenders, not just in the division, but I know it's only week two, but to compete for a Lombardi trophy?

Because based on what we saw the other night, you got the quarterback to do so.

I mean, I mean, I tweeted out right after the game was a respect 10.

That's something that we, as a team,

we hold that real high because, I mean, you only as good as your quarterback and then as a backdrop.

You feel me?

Like, when we got a guy and a leader in him, we know how far we can take this thing.

And we believe in not only him, but as far as our coaches and the staff and what we built here, we just ready to, you know, to prove it.

You know what I'm saying?

So, like, I mean, we looking forward.

It was week by week, you know, 1-0.

That's the goal every week.

is to be 1-0, get to 2-0, and see how far we can take this thing.

You know, we can't take any game for granted.

All smoke, like I said, is welcome.

and that you you called us young bulls so that 23 thing out the window i hope you know that you called it you

you was 23 a second ago now we young bulls

i'm saying you call me oh g so i'm gonna just i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna pay the respect back and i'm gonna call you young bull i mean i'm i i'm young bull i'm a young boo i just want you to know you go ahead you know it's nice and shiny though

here what's the biggest difference you played for a lot of coaches i mean growing up in pop warner in high school and college and now you have Jim Harbaugh.

And what did you hear about him?

Did you ask anybody that had ever, you know, played for him, played under him at the University of Michigan, at Stanford,

at the Niners?

Did you know anybody that played for him?

And what type of coach, what are you getting?

Is he everything that you thought?

I mean, I would definitely say he everything that I thought he would be.

Before he got to us, I definitely heard a lot about Coach Harbaugh.

I mean, the dude's personality, it it goes through any any room you feel me he he walks in a lot of rooms that he ain't never been in you know that that type of name he got and that's because of the personality and how uh outstanding and upstanding he is as a guy and and i heard a lot of stories about him just about him coming to la you know i'm from la from the from the city and not a lot of coaches do the the on-ground recruiting out here in this city but i heard a lot and not only you hear a lot but i've seen a lot of pictures of just hardball you know being on on foot out here and going to recruit guys and just being a relatable, as relatable as he can be.

So, you feel me?

Like, just he's that man, he's just that genuine type of guy.

He's a guy you want to fight for.

A guy that will fight with you, though, you know, it's not about fighting for him, but he'll fight with you.

And you, who

follow a leader like that?

Yeah, yeah, your linebackers coach, Navarro Bowman.

Bo played next to him and Patrick Willis for the longest time.

They were the best, two, they were the best duo in football.

They were some thumpers.

Will coming downhill.

But I think Navarro Bowman was very underrated because he was playing to a guy

that was perennial all-pro.

That was ward number 52 and his idol was Ray Lewis.

And he was as fast, he was as physical, and he could do it all.

But Navarro Bowman, if you watched the 49ers, if you studied the 49ers before he got injured,

Bo was that dude.

Hey, hey, you see, I got to take the Oakleys off.

You feel me?

i gotta take the oakleys off i gotta you know i just got them joints today shout out oakley for that but uh

i mean

you're talking about a guy with not only just the the resume but he still he still could go ball today i mean i can tell this to his shades you feel me i feel me i'll be trying to keep my guy you know just at coach level but he'll because he'll still try to get out there and show me something about hitting something i'll be like come on dude it's my turn now you feel me but I look at his tape, man.

I study who he is.

I study who he is.

You feel me?

I don't want to say who he was because he is that guy.

He is 100% still that guy.

And I feel like not only was he next to a Hall of Famer, but him himself and what he did on that field, he should also be amongst them ranks too.

Uh, one day, because I mean, he had them all pros.

Uh, he had the injury, the bounce back from the injury, you know, I'm saying the stuff that's that's unnatural, that's not really normal.

And it's like, you know, you got that type of resume, and then you become a coach.

I look at what he does.

I look at what he says.

Then I can go turn on the film and be like, nah, you, you about that.

And I mean, oh, yeah, he really, he really was.

He was about that.

He was about that.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm willing.

I'm way.

I'm way.

Hold on.

Hey, I was with him.

I was with him.

I ran Levaro

over a few times.

You did what?

Ran him over.

Corter slant quarter uh little mid dig and instead of cutting up i just i just ran stacking to him asking about it oh oh no oh no no no no no i'm gonna ask him about it

i was i was hell to deal with boy i was hella deal with what i heard you shy away from contact though who you

i was i was 64230 what i'm shying away from

oh no i i mean i remember see i'll be watching i be watching y'all man y'all got a lot of influence on on us i mean y'all oh geez i heard you talk about not being a contact receiver.

I've heard you verbatim say that that wasn't in your game.

You can't be telling me, yeah, I've got proceeds up here, bro.

You have to listen to me closely.

Okay,

I don't like contact in-game because I get my uniform out the cleaners on game day.

Now, I welcome contact if that's what you want to do.

So, have you have you see foot on dead homies?

I'm with whatever on Sundays.

You feel me?

On dead homies?

on dead homies oh not on my dead homies though oh not on yours on mine yeah you can't put them on my dead homies because i don't think you hit both i don't think i hit that and then if you can't put them on my dead homies

i know they're rolling right now so you can't do that with mine doom

respect hey listen if let's just i'm gonna give you better perspective i'm gonna give you better perspective and better context if it in 225.

okay i was playing in today's game and there was a chance let's say

you was playing against me me me me right me yeah you playing against me i'm locked in i'm game mode round let's go you locked in yeah let's go before the game started i'm probably gonna talk you out your game

in the game i'm probably gonna i'm i'm in the game i'm probably gonna run you over at some point because you too little

you too little for me for my type for my kind

like i respect you and what you do i've been listening i've been watching since you're a little kid you didn't even know that oh cho you know he started out as a wide receiver he switched to the linebacker hey i was too dark for that room over there i was too i was too much for him over there i ain't gonna lie coach looked at me said you're a little too physical to be doing what you're doing to these dudes you probably should be on the dark side and i said you know what if i was anything like chad i'd say no but

i'm gonna go ahead and do that i'm gonna go ahead and flip the switch on y'all here i stand here i stand

so let me ask you a question who did you model coming up obviously you started as a wide receiver.

So, when you were the wide receiver, who did you model your game after?

And then, once you switched to the defensive side and you became a linebacker, what are some of the linebackers that you like, okay, I like his game.

Let me see if I can add some of that to mine.

So, this is how my whole life, a whole lot of life, you feel me, happened in my little 25.

But I was a QB all the way up until I got to college.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was a QB from five years old to 17.

I went to Chris.

How you just don't be watching

high school, man.

Hold on, you got to understand.

I was, I was over there by Dorsey off

third building.

So, um,

you feel me?

Oh, man.

I mean, I know, I know, it's all good.

It's all good.

I'm on the other side.

I was on the other side.

The disrespect.

I know about you.

I know about you.

I've been watching you.

I didn't know you.

I didn't know you played quarterback, though.

The disrespect, man.

All I'm going to say is, look, I was a QB.

Right, right.

My shot at Nevada, University of Nevada, they turned me into an athlete you feel me i didn't get an offer at a position they offered me as an athlete you know look that up they don't that don't happen often okay they put me in the receiver room like i said at that point just to answer your answer your question i looked at a lot of guys like yourself you feel me just just had to see how to run routes you mean properly i was throwing the routes but you know not really running routes so i looked at you uh shout out obj uh shout out metron shout out shout out some guys who just i feel like at the end of the day they come down with the ball so went from that and got into my defensive side of mind.

And the first dude I really like looked into was probably Ed Reed, man.

Uh, just just a physical dude because I didn't go straight linebacker, I was a safety at first.

Okay, yeah, Ed, take the ball away, yeah, yeah.

If I'm if I'm gonna look at anybody, I'm gonna look at who I deem.

And I used to watch the Ravens a lot, Shay.

So, shout out to you.

I used to watch the Ravens a lot.

I used to appreciate that.

I see y'all hard knocks acting fool.

You, you ain't changing, you ain't changed, but but I used to watch the Ravens a lot.

So, Ed Reed, and then obviously, you look, you look right below, below you got ray lewis man you got you got one of the greats and then you you just go from there once you once you get into that mindset you just kind of just go from there and then like i i you feel me i told him this before but shout out to bar bowman man you look at that talent that he was born a number of respect so i was able to watch a lot of greats and then

messed around and got next to one man and it's number of respect i'm just trying to i'm trying to make my mark it's about legacy and nothing

but let me ask you what made you decide to choose zero?

Of all the numbers you could have, I mean, what's special about zero?

You see, you see what I just said about that legacy right there.

Yeah, yeah, you start your own.

You know what I'm saying?

That legacy, man.

I mean, I got to the league.

Nothing wrong with that, bro.

It just so happened that

zero was available for the first time in the NFL.

I didn't have one as an option.

My draft, my draft class mate was Quentin Johnson.

He was our first rounder.

He was number one in college.

Obviously, the one go to him.

That was my most recent number.

It was was one and 11 was taken.

So I looked at zero as an opportunity to make my mark and do something and, you know, be remembered.

It's a lot of zeros and only one right now as a Charger.

So I just had to do what I can.

You do realize when you get a single-digit number now, you got to be that boy dog.

Oh, yeah.

You understand that.

Hey.

I'm just saying.

Hey, Shay,

I understand that, but as always, I bet on myself.

I'm not a boastful dude by any means.

And even now, just talking to y'all, I know where I'm at right now in my process.

And I know that I'm just trying to continue to grow.

So I look at that zero as anything.

It's a blank state.

I'm blank slate every game, every week.

And what I do to build on that is what I'm going to leave behind when I lead that number one day.

And that's what I just, you know, that's how I move.

That's my mindset is, like you said, be a dog.

You know, I got to make that move every day.

And I got coaches, got players, teammates, staff members pushing me every day.

Yeah.

Hey, listen, you've gotten through training camp.

I gotta do preseason.

Now we've gotten through week one.

How's the body feel?

How's everything holding up?

How you feel going into week two?

I mean, one thing we know about football, y'all, is,

are you ever 100%?

No,

not after you think you're after training camp.

I'm trying to tell you, you're never 100%.

But it's about what you can do with that percentage that you are.

And so for me, my body is where it is and it's good.

You know, I'm dealing with with my little bumps and bruises.

Training camp is long, uh, a hardball training camp is long as hell.

Yes, for both of them, and ours started earlier than everybody else's.

Uh, we had that fourth preseason game, that Hall of Fame game, so they've been it's been a long one for us, but I got the trainer staff that's been taking care of me.

Shout out them.

Uh, and we got a long season ahead of us, and I'm just maintaining, you know, I got to make sure I maintain and keep where I'm at right now.

You went to Crenshaw High.

Are there any other

athletes or famous people that went to high school with you?

With me?

Yes.

Nah, nah, nah, nah.

It wasn't any that wasn't.

You have nobody from your team that made it to the league?

Nah,

none in my class, none have are in the league right now.

I think Daniel Grisiak was a defensive end that was right under me.

He was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers most recently.

He's a free agent right now.

But

in the past, I couldn't even tell you.

It's been me.

I think since like the anthony thomas or no no uh a jna harris was my most recent one was about like some years ago because y'all have a league i mean that high school crenshaw has put a lot of guys into the league oh yeah yeah

yeah crenshaw hey make stop mentioning them with me on the line my bad my bad my bad my bad twin

i respect them for la i do

My bad twins.

Hey, Shannon, I don't think you understand.

This is a real rivalry, man.

I mean, I used to lead lead them games with blood on my jersey that wasn't from football.

You know what I'm saying?

And so he keeps playing on me right now.

My bad, my bad.

My bad.

So I'm trying to get him to stole him out.

Okay, okay.

But check this out.

Let me ask you this.

Your father is Eugene Big U.

Henley, Jr.

Yes, sir.

Did he make a conscious effort, or was it you to make sure you stay away from that?

Because you mentioned Crenshaw, and we've heard all the stories.

I mean, maybe it's not as, maybe it's not as heavily involved as it once was it but it used to be a lot of gang a lot of gang affiliation a lot of gang violence did he make a did you do that or did he do make a concerted effort say son this is not the life for you you're gonna go do something positive one thing that i grew up understanding was that what my family is and who we are to this city is is gonna always be with me And my dad made it clear that I got a choice every day to make to be above all of that, you know?

And so my dad made it very clear that's not what he wanted for me in my life.

He made it very, very clear that I had a better chance of making it to where I needed to go because I had his support.

And I got two older brothers, Jabari Henley, Michael Henley, they're my older brothers.

And they live a different life than me.

You feel me?

The route that people would assume I would have taken, they live.

Right.

And they, and they made those choices.

And that was because of the absence of my father at a time.

You feel me?

He wasn't there for them as much as he was for me.

I got my dad fresh out about four years old.

And so he told me like straight up, you ain't got no option, bro.

I'm here.

And make sure we're going to make sure we get this done and done the right way.

And obviously,

you get to an age where you do have to make the decisions, you know,

because

he's not holding my hand.

So that's why I say it was a collaborative effort.

And then shout out my mom, Stacey Henley, because she was right there and holding down the house.

That was,

I mean, one woman that, that taught me strength, you know, she showed me a lot about what strength is then, and especially now.

So, shout out to my mom, like I said, Stacey Henley.

And yeah, shout out to my pops for where I am now.

I like that.

I like that you made a positive decision.

How much do you go back?

Because there are a lot of kids that maybe don't think they have a choice.

The only choice that they can make is that life, but you're living proof.

Like, I got two older brothers, my dad, but I made a decision that that life wasn't for me.

I believe that I had something better in store, that my life, God had something bigger planned for me.

Yeah.

And sir.

He had something bigger planned for you, but you just have to make the right decision.

That's 100%.

And you said, how often do I go back?

I put it in frame of mind for you right now.

We got back from Brazil

at 10 a.m.

in the morning.

Yeah.

My brother called me and said, it's a Pop Warner game and Compton right now.

I'm fresh off the plane.

I'm going to go see them kids.

It's just what it is.

I was in training camp, OTAs.

I did a football camp for him and I couldn't really go see him or be involved.

And you feel me?

You can't.

I got a real job.

You got a real job.

Yeah.

You got a real job.

I can't go all the time or, you know, just anytime.

And

this was the opportunity.

Fresh off the plane, straight from a 14-hour flight.

Got in the Uber, dropped my stuff off at the facility and went to go see the kids.

And that's, that was, yeah that was just this this uh what saturday so i was able to go do that and that's just you feel me when i can i will and uh that's just you know showing love to the kids not only is it just trying to be a role model but like showing them it's an option i didn't i didn't really see this this close of an athlete they they don't even look at me the same no more they look at me like i'm just day on you know uh like day on hilly you know the the nfl thing kind of wearing off but i i want them to understand that this isn't normal but also i want them to understand that it's attainable Yeah,

that's live.

That's dope.

That's dope.

You guys face the Raiders on week two, Monday Night Football.

You already looking at tape.

They got a win.

They went on the road to New England, got a big win.

Gino threw for three over 300 yards.

Brock Bowes, we don't know his status.

That would be somebody possibly you could be matched up with.

We don't know.

He did injure his knee, didn't return to the game, but I'm sure Coach Harbaugh is going to tell you guys and Bogo say, look,

we're going to practice and prepare as if he's playing.

And if he doesn't

play, we'll make an adjustment.

But we're not going to get caught without, you know, oh, he ain't playing.

And all of a sudden, he show up and we don't have the proper technique and the plan in place for it.

Now, you definitely understand.

You know how I go.

You know how I go.

We locked in.

Today we straight, we, hey, we wipe, we wipe one and no.

You know, now we're trying to get that two and no mindset going.

And obviously, that's always an every day we move move and trying to get forward.

You feel me?

So we're definitely on to the next team.

We got one heck of a coaching staff over there.

And

we know what he's about.

Shout out to my D's coordinator, Jesse Mitchell.

Today, he was just talking about it.

This is a team that are exactly where we were last year.

New coach, not only a new coach, but a proven coach that knows how to win.

And then with the staff that they feel that they are being able to accurate and rejuvenate.

So

we see the competition and we see the tasks at hand and then we know what we're going over to do.

It's Raiders.

It's a natural rivalry going on.

And then it is.

You know, Harvaugh and Carol.

This go back to college.

This go back to Stanford and USC.

USC.

What's your deal?

What's your deal?

I'm my coach back.

I got my coach back.

That's all I'm saying.

I got my coach back.

De Jan, thanks for coming on with us tonight, man.

Thanks for giving us a few moments of your time.

We really, really appreciate it.

Keep up the great work, not only on the field, but in the community as well.

Tell the family I said hello.

And you know what?

Y'all win that division.

Come back on and tell us about it.

You know, that's what we're going.

We're chasing that.

My sister told me to tell you she loves you.

And then, chat, the Madden ratings.

Well,

tell me what you need.

Tell me what you need.

I just want my power.

I want my strength.

I got you.

I just want you to watch me.

You know what I'm saying?

I've been watching watching you since chris y'all i i know you nothing giving man nothing giving i i'll earn it i ain't got no i ain't got no problem with earning mine

i'm just i just finally get to say this to you y'all saying i gotta say i gotta change y'all man

well one one question i i don't mean to be greedy but my grandma always told me a closed mouth don't get fed but if i do make my way to la okay

if i can get just one one ticket you hey man what you need what you need it's just one i'll try i i travel alone with i might i might might i got a ticket i got a jersey for both of y'all y'all my hey man y'all my old geese number

we ain't talking about we ain't talking about him we ain't talking about him we talk about me

he leave me behind man he don't take me nowhere

i can't keep up

yeah yeah i got you know i'm i try i travel with me me and my me and my baby you know me and my girl you know come on man i got you i got

love

nothing nothing y'all trying to come to the sideline we get the passes oh

i want to stay on the sideline the whole game

I only just became captain.

Okay.

Okay.

It's only my first year out here.

It's all about Ocho Man Damn.

Hold on, but Harbaugh.

You tried to get the man bro a captainship revolt.

I'm saying, like, they don't, you know what I'm saying?

Hard part know me.

He knows me.

We go way back.

Way back.

I did play.

I was in the league when Harbaugh played.

So I did play with you.

I did play with him.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he actually,

he was my quarterback one year at the Pro Bowl when he was at Indy.

Damn, you old.

Yeah, I am.

I am.

Damn.

You could be coaching somebody.

Oh, no.

I ain't got no patience to do that now.

Hey, I see how you talk about these players, man.

He probably right.

I ain't going to even hold you on that one.

Respect my dog.

When you're right, you ain't wrong.

Respect my dog, Tim, man.

Respect Tim, man.

Oh, hey, he balled out.

But you

know, when you're that level of talent, you know, you get judged by postseason.

Much differently.

Hey, he ain't got much to say to y'all, so I say it for him, and that's

watching.

That's going to be just watch what he do.

You watch that, man.

Best believe.

Because you know, hey, now you know.

What's going on?

Hey, hey, hey, tell Quinn Jones.

You already know.

You already know what to see.

Come on now.

Come on.

Hey, there you go.

Come on now.

There you you go.

You see how you treat our guests?

You see how you doing, man?

What are you turning this into?

What are you turning this into?

You're trying to bait me.

You're trying to rage bait me.

I ain't like that.

For life.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

Here.

You do.

For life.

Respect to every opponent.

The country.

Respect to every opponent.

Bronco country.

Raise up, dad.

Come on.

Hey.

See, that's why I took on this.

I told you, just give me tickets.

See what I mean?

Hey.

See See what I mean?

Hey, here.

For life.

That's what we own.

Okay.

Okay.

I respect it.

Ray, appreciate you, bro.

Give us a rest.

Good luck this weekend.

Stay healthy.

We'll see you down the road.

Shout out to y'all, man.

I appreciate y'all for having me.

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