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It was second guessed because the outcome and because the Ravens have a quarterback.

Ravens John Harbaugh said

he thought about going for it.

Well, Lamar said today that Cramps in both of his calves made the decision to punt the ball for the Ravens.

I was actually Crampin that drive before the turnover happened, but I went to the sideline.

If anybody paid attention to me, I was drinking pickle juice on the sideline already.

I was like, I need to get hydrated.

Like, I'm cramping.

I'm starting to feel cramps.

Then went back out there, and obviously, fourth and three happened.

But if it wasn't for Crampin, we definitely would have went for it.

We definitely would have went for it, I believe.

The Cramps also explained why he didn't run uh any of the final three offensive plays while they were on the field derrick henry one yard gain zay flowers stop for no game that was a really a bad block by mark andrews you got to do better than that mark you you you're a better blocker than that i'm not saying i'm not saying you're gonna be mark bavaro or kittle but you gotta do a better job than that and then lamar six yard pass to uh deandre hopkins on third and nine

Lamar

might need to get IVs before the game because he's had this problem before.

Remember Cleveland?

Yeah.

When he had to go in there, had to went to the ambulance and he ended up coming out and put the cape on and he won.

So that might be something that he might have to take an IV before the game, Ocho, or at least at the half

to make sure.

That was me.

That was me, Unc.

From September to the month of October, I got my IVs at halftime because I had to deal with those cramps.

Most of the time, they would come in the second quarter.

Yep.

Religiously, September through October, I would always have to get cramps and I couldn't wait.

I couldn't wait until it got cold.

Because I knew once it got cold, no matter how much Pete light I drank, no matter how much water or Gatorade I drank, I always cramped up towards the end of the second quarter.

So religiously, I had to go in there and get it

IV at halftime.

I know my trainers, I know they hated me for that.

I would always leave the game maybe a minute, maybe two minutes.

if we didn't have the ball in the second quarter when the halftime was coming up and started my IV early.

So when the third quarter happens, I was already finished.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that me, I was the opposite.

I cramped during the cold months, not during the summer, because I was going to drink.

When I'm hot, I'm going to drink.

When I'm cold, I ain't trying to drink nothing.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

And that's when I, that's when I would, my calves that I would start, I would start locking up in my, you know, my, my side, my back, because I didn't want to drink anything when it was cold.

I was fine during the hot months.

Yeah, yeah, even because I knew I had to drink Ocho, because like I said, at practice, I would lose 10, 12 pounds in training camp practices.

Yeah, I was a complete opposite.

And I cramped nowhere.

I cramped nowhere else except my calves.

Nowhere else except my calves.

And I hate it.

I understand because I hydrated before the game.

During the game, I don't drink because I'm too busy talking trash to every goddamn body.

During the game, it don't drink.

And I would always have to get that IV.

And

if

after games, I did lock up a lot after game, man.

You be in the bed in the middle of the night.

Yeah.

Or you stand on Ocho.

You move the wrong way.

You catch that Charlie horse.

What's wrong with you?

I remember them days, boy.

Crying, man.

I remember them days.

Whole body lockup.

Oh, them remember them days.

Ocho, the Browns are 11 and a half point underdogs against the Ravens, and a couple of key players aren't happy about that.

Denzel Ward said, it's definitely disrespect, but we just have to go in there and take care of business, regardless of the people may think or who they've got winning or losing the game.

We have to go in there and try to beat the odds.

They put us against the odds.

We've got to go in there and try to beat it.

Said Judy, that's disrespectful.

But at the end of the day, if they think Baltimore can beat us like that, we're going to have to prove another thing.

We've got to do our job to the best and win the game.

The Vegas,

damn, 11 and a half?

Yeah, that's crazy.

That's a division opponent, also, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah.

I think it's going to be a close game similar to that as the Bengals and the Bengals and the Browns.

And the personnel, the Browns have the personnel to deal with Derrick Henry.

The Browns have the personnel to deal with Derrick Henry and stack nine in a goddamn box.

They're going to play bumper on the outside.

And the one player, the one player I see that the Browns have to deal with, they got to deal with Zay Flowers, who's probably going to have the one-on-one matchup because they're not letting Derrick Henry run the ball.

They, they, that's, that's not happening.

Somebody else is going to beat us.

It ain't going to be 22 and it ain't going to be eight legs.

It's going to have to be Zay.

He's going to have to get juicy.

And I guarantee you, when they do play, Chad, mark my words.

If the Ravens are going to have success, it's not going to be the run game.

It's going to be Lamar Jackson being able to get the one-on-one matchup with Zay Flowers and him winning on those same routes.

The overs, the short overs, the deep overs.

I guarantee you, watch.

Tell me, I'm telling you how it's going to play out.

Yeah,

look,

I guess because now, Ocho, it's the media, but I never knew how much we were or were not favored by.

I mean,

the only time that you know, like at the Super Bowl, we were 11 and a half-point dogs to the Green Bay Packers, but that's because the NFC had won like 13, 14 straight Super Bowls.

Right.

And it hadn't been close.

The last close Super Bowl was 90.

Prior to that, there was never a close Super Bowl.

You go back and look at the 80s from when

the Bears, look at what the Bears did did to the patriots look at what the giants did to the broncos look at what washington did to the broncos now you did get a closed game uh uh uh

in 88 with the 49ers and and your bingles right that was a 2016 game and then you got that but go back and look at 89 55 10.

you got another closed game 2019 but after that

NFC just

walked it, but the NFC was winning every single year.

Yeah.

My point was, yeah.

And so, and the Packers had just won the previous year, and they was bringing back

the MVP.

He and Baron Sanders had tied for the MVP.

So I get it.

But

we know they wasn't better than us.

They hadn't seen nobody run the ball like we could.

The 49ers have been bitten by the injury bug earlier this year.

George Kittle placed no injury reserve this week with a hamstring injury.

Now Brock Purdy could potentially miss multiple games.

Kyle shanahan told reporters today that purdy is a long shot to play week two versus the new new orleans saints due to a toe and a left shoulder injury

back up mac jones is in line to start for the san francisco this week and potentially for multiple weeks ocho mac jones you think he can handle it for the 49ers yep i mean listen he handled his first year he handled his first year with the patriots Obviously, he showed flashes of brilliance where they thought he was answer.

Obviously, things didn't pan out.

They went and got Drake May.

I think

he can fare okay depending on how long Purdy has to stay out.

Shanahan is going to have to play to his strengths.

That's pretty much it.

And everyone else around him, I think Jawan Jennings is hurt too, huh?

Yeah.

Hey, boy, that's Ayuk.

Ayuk is hurt.

That's tough.

They're going to have to lean on C-Mac.

They're going to have to lean on C-Mac.

And when they got to throw the ball, hoping Mac Jones, I mean, he showed flashes of not brilliance, of being that he can be consistent and get the ball to the receivers.

He's going to have to play this.

He's perfect.

He's perfect for this offense yeah he's perfect for this offense he don't have a i mean hell he brock purdy doesn't have a big time arm he throw great anticipation uh they're gonna try to run the football and guess what they're gonna play action off of that throw the deep overs they're gonna throw the down flat they're gonna throw the shell sell route right that's

go back if you go back and study kyle shanahan he maximizes the quarter whatever the quarterback can do good right he maximizes he makes sure they do

he maximized that right go back and look at his quarterback Look at what he was able to do.

He got an MVP out of Matt Ryan.

He called a play for Matt Ryan.

Yeah.

Go back and

look at what he did with RG3.

RG3 was rookie of the year.

And when RG3 got hurt, cousins, just go back and study.

He got to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G.

Yeah.

Stop it.

Hey, but hey, though.

He got to the Pro Bowl.

He got to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G, and he took Mr.

Irrelevant.

Then Mr.

Irrelev got to the Super Bowl.

But also, also, remember, remember, regardless of who the quarterback is at those times, when Jimmy G got to the Super Bowl or when Brock Purdy got there, remember what he had around him.

Yeah.

Remember what he had around him.

So now, right now, you don't have all those weapons.

You have C-Mac, you got Rica Purcell, who is showing an emergence of I'm capable of being a number one receiver.

Maximize and play to the strengths of Mac Jones.

And whatever you can hide, mask it the best way you can.

So

we'll see, obviously, you know, knowing the guy that's not going to be there for an extended period of time,

that makes, look, we ain't got to try to,

well, he might play, they know he's not playing for at least a couple of weeks.

Mac Jones, this is why you go out and sign Mac Jones.

Excuse me, for this very reason.

This is why you signed him.

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Jaguars head coach Liam Cohen said Travis Hunter numbers defensive snaps will likely uptake after he played just snick six snaps at cornerback going into week one it was okay we know that

not going to be a ton on defense the goal is to increase and continue to increase his defensive snaps it just so happens that we're playing Cincinnati with two good wideouts this week this ain't this ain't the week this ain't this ain't the week I would have wanted this the week so this is the week you over you uptick his defensive snap and still start him on offense this is the funny thing about it though

my matter of fact I don't think he'll he'll see well matter of fact you know what they move Chase and T around so much, especially, especially Chase being in the slot.

They both had what less than 30, less than 40 yards last year.

Yeah, that ain't gonna happen this week, though.

Hey, Uncle Airbnb, excuse me, I almost cursed.

They finna air that ball out, man.

They're gonna air that ball out.

Now, if, if, if on third downs where Travis Hunter comes to the game, he might have to be matched up against Chase.

If T comes in the slot, he might have to be matched up against T.

So

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You got to be careful.

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It's a different ball game.

Having to play both sides of the ball, now is a true test to how good your skill set really is because it ain't about how good you are.

It's about this up here.

Oh, Joe, but see this up here.

People missing the point.

People say, well, he can play both, but can he play both well?

It's not about playing both.

There have been plenty of guys that could have played both sides of the ball, but can you play at an elite level?

That's what we're asking.

That's hard.

That's what, see, people miss.

Well, Shannon, you said he can't do it, but he was going to need to play at an elite level on both sides of the ball.

That's the question, not whether he can do it.

Hell, you and I could have, we'd have got toasted on the defensive side, Ojo, but we could have done it.

But the question is, can he play at that level on both sides of the ball?

That's the question.

Let's think about that for a minute, too.

He's not playing on the outside, so there's not that much pressure on him.

But coming in on packages on third down, having to deal with Chase, having to deal with T, having to deal with Jermaine Braden or Yoshi, depending on who's in that slot on those third downs, and then having to turn right around when you guys get the ball and then being efficient at the receiver position.

But see, that's why I thought he would be a DB.

And then it's easier to have packages on the offensive side, OJ.

That's what I thought would be.

I said, okay, he's going to start at the DB, and then they'll have packages for him, third down, red zone, things of that nature.

But it seemingly they went the other way.

Start him on offense and then have packages for him on defense.

But we'll see how it plays out.

Look.

I mean, I'm excited.

I can't wait to see.

I can't wait to see, honestly.

I can't wait to see.

I think it's going to be a great matchup.

I think whatever situations that do occur, especially on third, I know it's going to be on third downs when he comes in those games and he has to deal with Chase or has to deal with T.

I can't wait.

I can't wait.

Ben Simmons' agent dropped him after Simmons showed little to no interest in talks with the Knicks.

Simmons agent, Bernie Lee, recently dropped him as a client, client, according to Stein.

A source said that decision occurred after the point guard sent signals that he wasn't interested in whatever came from his agent's conversation with the Knicks.

NBA insider Mark Stein initially reported the Knicks tabled a one-year offer to Simmons, but the 29-year-old timing to get more than the veterans minimum.

Because of this cap situation, that's as high as New York can go.

Well, he obviously doesn't want to go to New York.

He obviously don't want to play in the NBA.

Well, that, that, that, too.

But obviously.

Because how many teams?

Let me ask you a question.

They said he's talking to the Knicks.

I ain't seen nothing about no Pacers.

I ain't seen nothing about no Celtics.

I ain't seen nothing about no other team.

And what does he think he's going to get?

So what has he put on tape in the last three, four years that would warrant him getting something more than vet minimum?

Right.

I mean, you're right about that.

You're right about that.

I've just come to learn about his situation and his inability

or need to actually shoot the ball, being scared and nervous to shoot the ball.

I'm not sure what's wrong.

His lack of confidence on the court is probably why he's in the situation he's in right now.

Yes.

He hadn't gotten any better.

Yeah.

Go look at Austin Reed from his rookie year to now.

Ooh, he's nice.

He's nice.

Go look at Jalen Williams from his rookie year to now.

Guys, go just look at Ben Simmons and you tell me from his rookie year.

Well, he plays rookie year, but his second year when he won offensive rookie, when he was rookie, he was NBA rookie of the year.

Yes.

Go show me where he's gotten better.

I just don't understand why he's so nervous, huh?

Why are you just so nervous?

Just let that bit, let it go.

Oh, check.

Listen, from the first year.

Fearball.

You in the NBA and can't shoot.

I can do your job.

Right.

And that's the one thing you got to be able to do, huh?

You got to be able to shoot, especially in the game now.

The game.

He's afraid to shoot

do you

go watch him in the runs yeah shooting threes yeah pulling up he letting it rip he letting it rip all right they they always show they always show him practicing you know everybody practices at that same facility in new york in the summit yep man he'd be he'd be cutting up in that summit boy but i'm not sure why if you can cut up in the summit that should be able to transition to you being able to play in front of 20 000.

because ain't nobody in there but you and the guys

ain't no hecklers in in there.

You shoot an air ball, don't nobody say nothing.

Yeah,

damn.

Not being able to shoot is one thing.

Being afraid to shoot is something entirely different.

He's afraid to shoot.

Yeah.

He's afraid to mess up.

And then he lost his confidence when his coach said, I don't know if we can win a championship with him.

And then the leader of the team says, yeah, is that when we had a dunk and we ended up getting one point.

You passed it back out.

Yeah.

Wait, wait, that was when he was in Philly, too.

Correct.

Yeah.

And I said he'd never, I said, and i said he was done in philly i said he was done go back and check the tapes i said he'll never be he never been saying

no he he was never the same after that

even though you can factor in the back injuries his confidence there have been guys that had back surgeries and right late

i don't i i don't i don't know where he think he's only what that's all you're getting ben i understand he's 29 years of age ojo i get that

but who's gonna offer ben simmons a multi-year deal

i'm not even sure that anybody's looking at a mid-level exception they're looking at the vet minimum i don't know what the vet minimum is what's the vet minimum

2.3

He probably made, oh Joe, he's probably made 150, 180 million.

Right.

The question is, do you want to play?

Because you're not in a position of power to demand a multi-year extension, a multi-year contract, or anything more than that.

Well, I mean, the question about him wanting to play, obviously, when he had a contract, when he had

those big contracts, when he was making big money, he wasn't playing.

It ain't about does he want to play when you had the opportunity to play, you weren't doing that.

He's made over 200 million dollars.

damn

he don't want to play

he don't want to play yeah tweet 29 he can't fold it yet he can't fold yet

no but i i don't see us i mean maybe so what so what do you think what's the mid-level exceptions mid-level exception six and a half seven hey i i i have no idea to me it's about being being around the right people that can help build your confidence back oh cho this i

He was in Philly, he was in Brooklyn, he's been at uh the Clippers.

Where else he's been

14.

The mid-level is 14.

Oh, he's not getting that.

No,

hell no.

Somebody else gonna, somebody else gonna come calling outside of ain't nobody giving him no 14 million, oh Joe.

Hey, he's young, he's young, huh?

29 is young.

Oh, Joe, it doesn't matter.

He's young and done what?

so in the last five years what does he put on tape that says you know what yeah you're getting 14 million we got that yeah you're right you're right but again i mean he's a presence defensively he's good defensively he

won't he won't offer anything on the offensive side of the ball oh oh joe let me ask you this

when they offered him that 2.3 did you think they knew he was 29

When everybody else that gave him that one-year deal, did you think they knew he was 28?

Did you think they knew he was 27?

Yes, sir.

And all they gave him was one-year deals.

Yeah.

What you and I are talking about right now, they factor that in one year.

You know why, Ocho?

Because it doesn't look like anybody wants to be tied to him for more than a year.

Any longer than that, yeah.

Yeah,

that sucks.

That sucks.

And people say, all you got to do is shoot.

Okay.

All I got to do is win the lottery.

And that's that's the hard part.

When have you seen him shoot it?

It's kind of hard

to draft a guy.

He got drafted number one overall.

You talk about a guy that's 6'10, could handle the ball, but he's afraid to shoot.

I've never seen anything like it.

I've never seen anything like it, Ocho.

That's like a receiver getting drafted, but he's afraid to catch the ball.

How you play receivers, you're afraid to catch the ball.

How can you, if you're afraid, you're the first pick in the draft?

Okay, you want to be Ben Simmons?

Ben Simmons, excuse me, Ben Wallace, outstanding defensive player, four-time defensive player of the year, block shots, rebound.

Okay, ain't nobody expecting Ben to shoot the ball.

Dennis Rodman.

Come on, Ben.

You the point guard?

You can't play that position.

You could be a big.

You could be a center.

You could be a power forward.

Maybe not in today's game.

But Ocho, how are you going to be a point guard and you won't shoot the ball?

Yeah.

That's odd.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we told you we had a very, very special guest joining us tonight.

In the four-belt era, he's the first male boxer to be undisputed in two weight classes.

Here he is taking on the ultimate test.

He says he wants to do it.

He's going to do it.

Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Terrence Bud Crawford.

Bud, what'd it do?

What's up, Witty?

Bad, I'm good, man.

But look,

we're seven, six, seven days away from this flight.

You seem so calm.

You seem so relaxed.

When I did the earlier interview on Club Shay Shay, you was like, I'm ready.

I've been preparing for this.

Everybody seems concerned because you moving up two, three different weight classes.

But you seem calm.

What's going on?

What are you thinking now as the crescendo is about to happen?

Only thing I'm thinking about is history.

You know, making history.

That's it.

But

how has camp been so far?

How has your approach been in camp this time as opposed to other fights?

Have you had a different approach in the way you went about training for this fight?

Well, you know, like I said before,

you know, camp is camp.

You know, we go in there and put in the hard work, no matter who we fighting.

Panelo's no different.

We train hard, we fight hard, and

you know, the work is done in the gym.

The novice, like, oh man, bud, bud, bud, bud.

I've saw a lot of people that do this professionally, do what you do, box professionally, and they'll say, I don't know if bud understands the difference in punching power from a 168 versus a 147 versus a 154 versus a 135.

That seems to be the concern of people that do what you do for a living, bud.

Are you concerned about that?

Because when I talked to you, you said he needs to be concerned about my power.

You know,

one thing is evident is that you're going to get hit in the boxing match.

Okay.

Always, you know, everything could be, you know, all the questions will be answered come Saturday.

You know, they don't got to speculate and

guess and hope.

Oh, man, he can't take the punch.

How you know I can't take the punch?

You know, Loan never hit me and I said I can't take the punch or

something.

you know uh so

i just laugh at people that's you know praying and hoping that it goes the way they want it to go.

You know, so Saturday, everything will be shown.

You look good, bud.

I mean, you had

the internet and the buzz.

They say, man, damn, bud, look good.

Here we are.

And we're still way a couple of days away from the fight.

And he's looking like this.

So obviously he's putting the time in the gym.

He's put the time in the weight room.

The one thing that's never been questioned about you, bud, is that you took your craft serious.

You put the time in.

No one has ever said Bud Crawford stepped into the ring and he was unprepared.

So we know you are prepared, but what?

And I asked, I said, well, damn, bud, I mean, to step up in this weight class, what do you normally walk around at?

You're like, I'm good.

He's like,

this is really good for me because

I ain't got to cut that much weight now.

Right, right.

No, I'm good.

I'm good.

You know, like I always say, everything happened for a reason.

And that reason being that I'm here now.

And, you know,

it's already written.

So I'm just ready to go out there and make history.

And

my legacy comes out.

Yeah.

Listen, if there was one boxer who can make history, going up weight classes, going down weight classes, regardless of what it may be, you have a chance to cement yourself in the history books when it comes to some of the greatest boxers of all time.

If there was one boxer that can do it, it's you based on your mentality, your upbringing, your surroundings that have built you for moments like this.

Boxing is about moments.

Boxing is about making history and making fights people want to see.

The only question I have going to this fight, I'm excited.

I have you to win.

What challenges you think you might face fighting the Canada?

Oh, it's going to be a lot of challenges.

You know,

he's a good fighter all around.

You know, he's a good pressure fighter.

He's a good counter puncher.

He's a good boxer.

He has great defense.

You know, it's going to be a lot of challenges, but that's what makes for a great fight.

You know,

you got to solve the puzzle.

So, you know, just like he got to solve my puzzle, I got to solve his.

You know, we're going to go in there and we're going to give all and the best man going to win.

Have you thought about it, bud?

When you look at guys that have moved up, you look at Sugar Ray goes from 35 to 40, 47 50 goes all the way to 60 to fight marvin hagler you look at floyd and what he's been able to do you see pacquia but when i think about a fighter i'm looking at roy jones roy jones started out as junior middleweight 154 goes all the way up to heavyweight i'm looking at you where you started bro you 30 you 35 30 40 pounds from where you originally started at have you let that sink in the gap and what this would mean for Bud Crawford legacy I'm

in attendance.

I'm going to be able to tell my grandkid, your papa uncle joe and i'm gonna be there i'll your papa was there when bud crawling shocked the world when he did what no one thought he could do other than himself and those in his circle have you allowed yourself to think about what this moment actually means in boxing history uh i haven't thought about that yet because the job is not done yet okay you know so

of course you know

a lot of people kind of remind that you know this is history like go out there and do your thing but you know you don't want to get too uh too far ahead of yourself yeah like it ain't i ain't i ain't did nothing yet you know

oh so

after after you know the fight that's when you know all the emotions and everything uh

come out

reality says you know my question is How soon after your last fight did you start thinking about the Canelo?

Or was Canelo always on the horizon?

You fought, you spot a Sean Porter, you fought

Errol, and then you fought this last fight.

So,

how far

did you start thinking about, man, I want to fight, I want to fight Canelo?

Well, really, I wanted to fight Canelo when I was at 147 before I fought Major Moff.

I wanted to go up three divisions to

fight Canelo, you know, because that never been done before.

I want to do things that never been done before, you know, so I can

be the first, like I was the first to become a two-time undisputed boy.

In the four-belt era, first male boxer to do that.

Like that's that's that's legacy right there.

When they talk about, you know, being undisputed and undisputed champions, they're gonna, they're gonna cement my name as number one

who was the first fighter.

The first to do it.

Yeah.

And that's gonna set the the bar high for the the fighters coming after me to try to you know do better which they probably will you know in in history uh but giving time but you give them something to shoot for bud yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure just like the other boxers i mentioned sugar ray and roy jones jr some of these other fighters gave you something gave you a target and that's gonna because like you said some fighter in 15 years 20 years 30 years from now said i saw what bud crawford did And I said, you know what?

I want to challenge myself like Bud.

Bud went and did it, had no fear, and said, hey, whatever happens, going to happen, but I need to know.

I don't want to have sit back on regress saying, man, I should have got that fight.

I should have did that and be afraid.

Somebody's going to say, they did something because they saw Bud Crawford do it in 2025.

For sure.

Yeah, something that the fans always ask for, include myself, being a huge boxing enthusiast.

We always talk about making boxing great again, getting fighters to fight each other.

I think you're going to start something, taking on the challenge, daring to be great, wanting to create a legacy and make history in itself.

I think a moment like this, when you do step in the ring with Canelo, it will get some of the other best fighters to actually fight each other instead of, you know, mosing around and picking and choosing when to fight, scared to just, just the challenges that you're taking on.

is is dope.

It's really dope to see.

But after something of this magnitude, but a fight like this,

where you talk about legacy, you talk, talk about history.

I'm not trying to put the carrots before the horse, but what's next after something like this of this magnitude?

This damn big, hey, listen, man.

We

tell you one fight at a time,

one fight at a time.

Well, you meant to put the horse before the carrot because the carrot does go before the horse because the horse is chasing the carrot, but we got what you

get with me.

We get what you, but we got, we, we understand what he means, but

my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

But I know you're very, you're very close to Floyd.

Did Floyd give you any pointers about how to go in there?

Because Floyd fought Canelo.

I think Canelo was 23.

Floyd was 36.

So you're a little slightly older than what Floyd was.

Canelo's a little slightly older than when he fought.

But has he given you any pointers of how to

go about your business?

Or do you even take pointers?

Do you watch film on fights?

Because Floyd said he didn't watch film.

He took what his trainer was going to say and he implemented that in the ring do you watch film and has floyd give you any pointers well of course you know i watch a little film you know not too much because you know i always said that the fighter that i'm fighting now is gonna not gonna fight me the same way because my style is different gotcha watch a little uh

video to see the things that they like to do once i see that then i know what the work going i know what to watch out for uh as far as floyd no i i haven't talked to floyd about pinello or the fight.

When you go into when you say you watch a little video, are you looking for a pattern?

Are you looking at the way he's trying to set things up?

And you look at the way he's circled, you look in the way.

So, what

exactly are you looking for?

Just you know, a little bit of everything.

I like to look at it to see what the tendencies are and uh, things that they do, things that they don't like, you know, um,

just certain patterns for sure.

So, then when I'm in the ring, I recognize it when I see it.

And you know what?

You know what's coming.

Are you?

You have all of us, all of us have, I have a routine before I play football game.

There was something that there was a pattern.

There was a, I'm not really superstitious.

Is there a certain routine that you do before every fight?

And are you superstitious in any way?

Superstitious or anything.

Like I said,

all this is already written.

You know what I mean?

This is already in God plan.

So, you know, there's nothing he can do, I can do, that can

write history.

So

it's already, it's already done, you know what I mean.

So, um,

we just gotta see how it goes.

So, go ahead, Ocho, go ahead.

I'm gonna say, I know how it's gonna go, I know how it's gonna go.

And when you raise your hand, I'm gonna jump on the ring like little mama did when Jay was on stage.

I'm telling you right now, I'm jumping.

I'm jumping in the ring.

They just had to take me to jail.

For sure.

yes i'm gonna make sure they take you to jail though don't worry

so so so bud now okay here we are a couple of days away now for the most part the hay is in the barn there ain't no more sparring uh i don't know you might might have one more day of road work whatever the case may be you now all of a sudden you're trying to make sure you come in at that 168.

So over the next three to four days, what is a bud call for a day?

Are you watching movies?

Are you, you know you catching up at last you know your train is in your ear says okay remember this this is what we worked on so what's a the last three to four days what is that gonna be like for bud crawford uh a lot of media a lot of interviews um

got the press conference you got the wins you got you know the shakeouts you got the make and wait and you got the fight so yeah you don't just be sitting in a in a room just chilling you know i mean all day you still got things to do Is that a good thing or a bad thing that you don't sit alone in your thoughts?

That you're, like you're saying, you're doing interviews and

you got this media tour that you got to go on and you mentioned you got the press conference.

But for the most part, I would think family, friends, and loved ones leave you alone.

And so you can focus on what you need to get focused on.

So

is that what happens?

I mean, you've already given everybody, okay, look here.

I cut the phone off at such and such a time.

Don't call me.

Hey, somebody else is going to handle what they need to do.

mama you got the kids mama you handle everything manager you handle everything over here now it's time to prepare my mind and really just lock in yeah uh

it gets like that but at the same time me as a protector i'll still be you know worried and thinking about them yeah

especially when they all come to vegas and you know they all uh partying or going out and things like that knowing me i'm like what they doing where where they at you know right all they heard they hear all right make sure they good you know so um the worrying about them ain't gonna never stop but everything else is is is definitely cool to be you know in your in your thoughts at times like i like to sit by myself and visualize the fight you know, how it's going to happen and what I'm going to do if this happened, what I'm going to do if that happened,

and just be in your own space at times.

Do you believe a lot of people say, well, I don't believe Bud can win a decision.

Bud is probably going to have to stop Canelo because Canelo is the champion

at the 168.

And it's probably the likelihood of him getting a victory by decision in Vegas at this weight, probably not going to happen.

I mean,

what's your mindset?

By any means necessary?

If it has to go to the cards, it goes to the card.

If there's a point in the fight where i feel i can i can i can sit down on some punches and get him up out of there that's what i'm gonna do my thing is i don't worry about what people say you know too many people is worried about what other people are saying oh he's too small or he can't take the punch or he not gonna get a decision or he's this he's that i don't worry about none of that my job is to go out there and fight that's what i'm gonna do come second i'm gonna go out there and fight and i'm gonna fight my ass off and you know what i mean and whatever happens, happen, you know, but I know one thing for sure.

I'm not leaving without them all them belts.

Damn.

So, hey, you're going to be like a department store.

You're going to have about seven, eight, nine, ten belts when you walk up out of there.

Listen, I'm going to be walking out with all of them.

I mean,

has your power, your footwork, your speed, has everything carried up despite the weight gain?

Everything flows with you, right?

You know what I mean?

Like I said, just because you gain a little weight doesn't mean that, you know, you're slower.

people get faster when they uh get bigger more explosive right punch a little harder things like that so i'm not worried about you know uh foot speed or hand speed or anything like that i'm that's fine but you also didn't have to go through that big weight cut to come all the way down to possibly 47 because uh you know and i was telling people i said man they said man you was in the ring wrestling with bud i said that little mofo strong now

hey you saw

hey, I said, you saw how he had me huffing and puffing.

So don't, don't let the size fool you.

I know you say, man, he only wanted, I said, nah, he wasn't 147 that day.

He said he wasn't 147 that day.

I don't know what he weighed, but it wasn't 47.

Yeah.

But do you feel, you, do you feel, do you feel comfortable?

Do you feel like,

because sometimes you gain a little weight, but you're like, damn, I don't feel comfortable.

You feel comfortable carrying this weight around?

I feel great.

I feel great.

You know,

I'm just ready, I'm just ready to go out there and do my thing.

All right, well, bud, yeah, we look

the last one.

We gotta wrap on your

last one.

Listen, I just want to make sure.

Do me a favor.

I know this is not really perturbing to the fight.

I just want to make sure Andre Ward is in attendance because we got some unfortunate.

He's on the uh the uh commentary

and leave him alone, man.

I told you he's gonna whoop your butt, man.

Just make just make sure.

Just make sure you we don't stop you

not but that's what i did boy we come we cut from but

you remember you was talking stuff to that that big dude i forgot his name the football player james yeah debo

debo is gonna grab your little ass up hey hey bud

make sure you want to kill but make sure you there for that hey debo was gonna grab you like and grab me

nobody's side.

I'm just saying Debo was gonna grab you like shan and grab me.

I got this.

Just make sure you're there when I whoop him.

Just when I whoop him, just make sure you're there.

And then Andre next.

Bud, I appreciate your time, man.

Congratulations.

Best of luck on the fight on Saturday night.

We will be in attendance.

And hey, I want to be able to say, you know what?

I was in attendance when Bud Crawford shocked the world.

Good luck.

And

we'll talk to you after the fight.

I appreciate it.

Bud Crawford.

Yeah.

It's always great having Bud.

I mean, anytime around, I mean, I did the first interview a couple of months ago, and he's just like, like you've been knowing him.

I mean, he makes you feel like you've been knowing him your entire life.

It's great to have him, wishing the best of luck.

He seemed at peace.

He seemed at ease.

He was very, very calm, Ocho.

You know, tomorrow, the show, we got two shows tomorrow.

We're going between 12 and 2, which will be 3 and 5 East Coast time.

So we're going to be on 3 to 5, and then we're going to be on again after the Packers Commanders game.

Actually, my brother gets his Hall of Fame ring at halftime of the game.

So we got two shows tomorrow.

The first show is 12 to 2 West Coast time, which is 3 to 5 East Coast time.

And then we'll come on again after the game.

Immediately after the game, we'll follow it up.

So we're excited.

We got some big stars.

I think we're going to get Canelo.

I think we're going to have dana white i think we're gonna have bud crawford we're gonna have a lot of guys stopping by passing through and uh we're gonna get those guys bring those guys to you guys so tune in tomorrow between um three and five to get uh

to talk more about this fight all right oh cho it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a yeah and make sure y'all tune in tomorrow now we we got some fights to talk about hey um

you know it's very important right

i talked to turkey i talked to turkish uh ali you know,

I talked to him too about the fight with Andre Ward.

He said it's something that he's interested in doing.

So, everybody in the chat, I think y'all can look forward to not only me beating Debo's ass, but in the future, me getting in the ring with Andre Ward and lumping his ass up, too.

Yep, I look forward to that.

Thank you.

We look forward to that.

Thank you.

Ghost Hendrix says Ravens defense on Madness boosted.

They not it, Ocho.

You might have to take them down or not.

Everybody be wanting you.

It's only one.

It's only one week.

Now, we'll make the proper adjustments if they continue to play bad, but after one week of football, we can't lower ratings and we can't increase ratings.

Like, let's let's settle down a little bit.

As time goes on, we'll make the proper adjustments based on the team's play.

Money making G say, what's up, Uncanocho?

Uh, I had to go through your Glenville last night.

I need them to change the brothers side, the Hall of Fame, Great Sterling, and Shannon Sharp.

I wonder, will they change it?

They'll absolutely change it.

Home

of Sterling Hall of Pro Football Hall of Fame of Sterling and Shannon Sharp.

Yes, they're going to change it.

Rashad Maybon is Mike Evans a top 10 receiver all time.

Okay, Jerry, Randy,

T.O.

Larry,

Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Harrison.

That's five.

Chris Carter.

See, I think, Ocho, I think the thing is, like, people just looking at stats.

Yeah.

If you just look at the stats, you're going to probably say, yeah.

Because it's the same thing.

If you look at stats, you probably say Frank Gore is a top five running back.

I don't think anybody looked at their career and say Frank Gore is a top five running back.

That's just me personally.

We named our five.

Who else, Ocho?

They base everything off of numbers, huh?

Because that's all they have to go off.

Now, when you play the game, you understand some of the players and their skill set and what they did for the game outside of just number zone.

Numbers only tell half the story.

What about you put him in front of Megatron?

Would you put him in front of AB?

Would you put him in front of Julio?

Now we're eight.

We're at eight.

You know how many.

I didn't say Michael Irving.

I didn't say Sterling Sharp.

I didn't say Torrey Holt.

I didn't say Isaac Bruce.

It's so many.

It's so many.

So the question is:

would you put him in front of Jerry?

Would you put him in front of

T.O.?

Would you put him in front of Randy?

Would you put him in front of Larry Fitzgerald?

Would you put him in front of Megatron, AB, Julio, Chris Carter?

I'm just

Andrew.

I'm just

y'all asking us because y'all want to hear us.

Well, you already know the answer.

Y'all just want to hear us say it.

So you can say, go back and say, Hall of Famous Shadow Sharp said Mike Evans is not a top tier receiver.

Y'all already know the answer.

Yeah.

We said that, but I'm saying, Dante Hunter, 12,1,000-yard season.

Who are the names that I named are you putting him in front of?

Are you putting him in front of Jerry?

Are you putting him in front of T.O.?

Are you putting him in front of Randy?

Are you putting him in front of Lad Fitzgerald?

Are you putting him in front of Megatron?

AB, Julio, Andre Johnson, Andre Johnson.

I'm just asking,

are you putting him, Marvin Harrison?

Are you putting him in front of those guys?

It's really, if you say yes, would it be the top tier receiver?

If you say no,

he's not.

De Naro Harris, be honest, coming from the Hall of Fame like yourself, do you think there's a running back better than Barry Sanders?

Not that I saw my eyes.

Now,

I mean, some people say I like Jim Brown.

I didn't see Walter play.

I watched him on television.

I didn't see Walter play.

He obviously retired before I got there.

Not my eyes.

No.

No.

The Woods said, oh Joe, my birthday is September 26th.

It would make my day if I can get an autograph signed jersey from you.

Okay.

Wait, you're going to provide the jersey or you want me to provide the jersey?

Because if I provide the jersey, I got you.

You know, just send me, send me a little DM on Instagrams and

I make sure my people get that out to you, twin.

They can get everything out except my money, but okay.

Huh?

Hey,

Bontavian Combs says, Saints fan here.

What's your opinion, Uh, and Ocho?

Can the Saints

have a successful season this year?

Ocho, what'd you think?

I mean, that all comes down to defense, being able to play defense, and Spencer Rattler doing what Spencer Rattler needs to do.

That's what it all comes down.

It all comes down.

Your wins are going to come down to your quarterback, your quarterback play.

How consistent can he be week in and week out?

That's all it comes down to.

Yeah.

Quarterback play.

Quarterback play.

Mm-hmm.

I thought

he threw a great ball that could have been, you know, possibly touchdown, kick PAT, and you go into overtime, but the guy didn't hold on to it.

So it's going to be interesting to see.

Jacob

Motor said, Uncle Nocho, y'all are granted the first two international NFL teams.

Where is your team located and what's the team name?

Are you paying X amount for Prime to coach the team?

Where your team is going to be located, Ocho?

My team?

Yeah, International.

Oh, we're going to be in Italy.

What you mean?

Yeah, my team is going to be in Italy.

Then they'll play the game in Italy.

I gotta think: okay, we've played games in Japan, we've played games in London, we've played games in Barcelona,

we played games in Australia, Mexico.

I think I'll put mine in Mexico.

That's a good one.

The Conquistadors.

That's going to be the name of my team.

Kevin Orwood Jr., Ocho, my question is, who do you have winning the MVP early season pick?

MVP early season pick right now,

it'd probably go to Josh.

And it's early season, and based on what we saw from Josh Allen in week one, and obviously we've had an opportunity to see all quarterbacks, all other skilled position players.

Josh Allen sticks out like a Thor Sum so far.

He sticks out like a sore thumb.

So

can he keep it going?

Probably can be.

Lamar Jackson will have something to say about that.

I think Joe Burrow will have something to say about that.

Patrick Mahomes is also one.

You don't want to leave out the conversation when it comes to MVP, despite how they looked week one.

So we'll see.

We got a long season to go, boy.

We got a long season to go.

Quentin Mobley or Quentin Mobley, Ben Simmons pulled it to Deshaun Watson.

Quick finesse.

Bag on head, Ocho versus Debo.

Give me Ocho all day, every day.

You don't mess with Liberty City.

Thank you.

We call Ocho Waffle House because he was open 24-7.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

Somebody that has common sense and understands my background in combat sports.

Understanding, regardless of the guy's size, the cloth that I'm cut from,

it's up with whoever and it's stuck.

Ness Coney said, We're in your corner, bud.

Go make history.

Yes, yes, we are.

Cedric Jr., quick question.

Since Monday is the last game, is the last game for

football week.

Can we do a segment every Monday night before QA?

The segment will be choosing five players for MVP rates.

The first three is someone you consider an MVP candidate, and the last two are honorable mention.

Okay, we'll look into that.

Chat, that's what y'all want to do.

Y'all want us to pick the MVP candidates

week to week and then see

how close we are at the end of the season.

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