Club Shay Shay - Tony Yayo Part 2

1h 23m
Tony Yayo joins Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay for a raw, unfiltered conversation about his life, his career in hip hop, and the brotherhood behind G-Unit. Yayo starts by comparing life in Europe to America, saying liquor tastes better, food is healthier, and there aren’t guns everywhere like in the U.S. Fresh off tour in Europe with Chris Brown in Manchester, he talks about how Washington D.C. feels dangerous today with residents scared to drive their own cars. Yayo reflects on growing up in the Southside of Jamaica, Queens, calling it the best borough in New York over Brooklyn and the Bronx. He shares that his parents are from Haiti, and explains how he got the name “Tony Yayo” from Scarface. He dives into his upbringing, calling immigrants hard-working, recalling his strict parents, and saying their divorce led him toward the streets and drug dealing. He dropped out of school, hustled while working around his mom’s schedule, and even had $100K thrown away by his mother. He remembers being robbed at gunpoint for a Starter jacket, his mom’s house being shot 22 times, and the pain of calling her from jail after being arrested. Yayo describes how 50 Cent and Lloyd Banks look out for friends coming out of prison, how he ended up dealing drugs, and why the worst part of street life was disappointing his mother. Yayo reflects on hip hop beefs, loyalty, and survival. He says he’ll never be mad at DJ Khaled for siding with Fat Joe during the feud with 50 Cent. He remembers riding in a bulletproof truck riddled with bullets, the murders of PnB Rock and Pop Smoke, and why he prefers hanging with his lawyer over rappers. He recalls being harassed by hip hop police when G-Unit was labeled “the most dangerous rap group in the world.” He praises Eminem as his “favorite white boy in the world,” calls Dr. Dre one of the best producers, and says Eminem listens to details like “the footsteps in Poltergeist.” He talks about how Eminem’s cosign made Joe Budden’s career, how Kanye West was around before fame, and how 50 Cent would turn down million-dollar deals. Yayo shares vivid stories about his friendship with 50 Cent — from knowing him since age 12, watching him box in the projects, and remembering the day he was shot nine times at his grandmother’s house. He says 50 didn’t want to be seen weak in the hospital, later rode around with a vest and gun looking for enemies, and didn’t even like “Many Men” until Yayo convinced him to keep it. He recalls 50 Cent giving him $1M, letting him sleep on his couch under strict rules, and always looking out for him when no one else did. He also revisits beefs with Ja Rule, Rick Ross, and Fat Joe, and explains why he’ll never be cool with Ja Rule. Yayo opens up about his rap journey, starting in basements as a dealer-turned-rapper, being starstruck partying with Mike Tyson, Venus and Serena Williams, Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, the Kardashians, and even the owner of Ray-Ban. He recalls Mike Tyson telling him to expand his horizons, leading him to caviar. He talks about performing with Cash Money, almost signing J. Cole and Nicki Minaj to G-Unit, and Atlanta artists like Outkast, Jermaine Dupri, and Lil Jon. He says Biggie was a better songwriter than Ice Cube, praises Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Ghostface, Slick Rick, KRS-One, LL Cool J, and Heavy D, and discusses Nipsey Hussle’s death in his own neighborhood. He reflects on modern rap and street culture — drill music glorifying murder, rappers like King Von, BloodHound Lil Jeff, and Q50 rapping about their crimes, and why kids today flaunt guns with switches on Instagram. He talks about Tekashi 6ix9ine snitching, Fat Joe enjoying Gunna’s music despite controversy, and whether Young Thug and Gunna might reconcile. He weighs in on Drake sampling his music, the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar beef reminding him of Nas vs. Jay-Z and Tupac vs. Biggie, and why Beyoncé and Taylor Swift are the only artists making real money in streaming today. From doing time in Rikers Island with Diddy’s bodyguard to meeting Donald Trump after jail, from charity work with the Knicks to investing in real estate, Yayo tells it all. He talks about loyalty, losing friends, being stabbed, doing Hot Ones as its first guest, and being starstruck by Nas, Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, and John Cena. Through it all, he credits 50 Cent, Jay-Z, and Eminem for inspiring him to handle his money wisely — while never forgetting the streets that raised him in Queens.

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Part two is underway.

Your daughter was born while you were incarcerated.

How did that impact you, not being there?

That was a tough thing because I signed my birth certificate, her birth certificate on Rikers Island, and the CEO was the witness.

I didn't want my baby moms to bring the baby there, but she did, and I signed it there.

Yeah, that was tough.

That's when I know I had to go home.

I ain't coming back.

Yeah, it's all about the kids, man.

That's the most thing, man.

It's not about the money, the cause, and the jury.

It's about taking care of your family and making sure your kids is correct, man.

All that stuff come and go.

Cars, jewelry, had all kinds of cars, all kinds of jewelry.

You know, and them experiences, like I said, being in rooms with

like you.

People you only dreamed of.

You a hall of famer.

You know, I'm in a room with you.

People don't even know.

You know, what's the craziest story?

It's me getting out of jail.

My craziest experience was meeting Donald Trump.

Really?

You can Google it.

Me and DJ Hookid, he told me to come to the radio.

I just got out of jail.

I'm out for a couple of days, and we interviewed Donald Trump.

And I never forgot because it was drug dealer Wednesdays.

And we interviewed Donald Trump way before he was president.

Right.

And that's crazy.

I even got a shirt signed by him.

That's crazy.

And now he's the president, but I always felt like he had a game.

Yes.

I always felt like he had a game.

You mentioned

him,

his relationship relationship with 50, your relationship to 50.

People called you house end

because

they say, man, all you do is glaze 50.

I mean, excuse me, glaze him, K for M, and so forth and so on.

Like, bro,

the man got skills.

Give credit where he's due, regardless of his color.

I think with

social media now, it gives everybody gets it.

Shay Shay.

I think I heard Jamie Foxx talking about it.

He didn't even put a picture up.

Put a picture up?

Nigga, your pants too tight.

You can't, you can't.

Put your kids up.

Your kids is ugly.

Put your car up.

I hate your car.

Like, the internet is undefeated.

And what I learned is I used to let the shit bother me.

But I was like, yo, you know what?

The internet is just undefeated.

We in times now where you could hands-on tell an artist them.

And I feel like that's a satisfaction that back in the days when there was no internet,

you couldn't do that.

You know, the internet is done.

It has made people

accessible.

Because like you said, you can get up under their comments, you can jump in their DMs and say crazy.

Everybody get it.

Yes.

I think the only person that don't get it is maybe Beyonce, because

she got the B Hive.

Right.

You know, certain Nikki Minaj, certain people.

But everybody gets it.

Right.

Besides that.

Because not everybody's

an ex-professional athlete.

They're a coach.

They're a music producer.

they're former they're a former writer they're a former rapper they're a former this therefore so everybody's like feel like their their opinion and they feel their opinions matter and then you got to figure out when a person looks at you like you're in a position and you up we only human right yes we all up oh he's stupid he's dumb yeah like for instance the p diddy situation yeah

rich as

If I had his money, I'd be on the island.

I wouldn't even be in this country, nigga.

I'd be in.

I have a spot in Paris, spot in Italy.

I wouldn't even be talking to motherfuckers.

Niggas wouldn't be partying at my crib because I'm aware of the lawsuits.

You know what I'm saying?

But that nigga's stupid.

That's the first thing I'm going to say.

Got less money in you.

There's more people that don't have it than do have it.

Be humble.

And even if you're humble, you still get it.

Niggas going, yo, you glazing 50.

You glazing them and them.

It don't bother me because I know niggas gonna hate for some reason, but I appreciate the people that show love.

Right.

Because, you know, out a lot of them comments, a lot of people show love and shout to them.

Can't focus on the haters.

But the way we're wired, you can get 15,000 great comments to say, I love Ya-O, Yay-O with G-Unit, with him at 50 and Buck and Lubanks and game.

It's that one multiple comment.

But

you know what's the best satisfying part of that?

That block button?

Boop, boop.

You block, and you can

erase.

Yeah.

And that's it.

And you embrace it.

It's going to always be that motherfucker that don't like you.

It's cool.

Everybody don't got to to like you.

Yeah, exactly.

We weren't meant.

I mean.

He glazed at 50.

I've been hearing that shit for 20 years.

50 kids.

He washing his car.

Eminem the white boy.

Why he like him?

I had a hit me and say, yo, how you shout out Eminem?

You ain't shout out me from the birthday in the hood.

And I'm like, what have you ever done for me in your natural life?

Because you know where you get love at?

You always get love and your hood lasts.

Because they know you.

Yes.

Meanwhile, I can go to Europe and the niggas.

Yo, yo, yo, yo.

I can go to Africa.

Yo, yo, I can go to Italy, yo, yo.

People show me love.

You always get love in your hood last.

See, music don't have nothing to do with color, race.

The best thing about music is it breaks all barriers.

Yes.

You know, it's funny that you said that because someone told me,

he said,

when you become something, It's those that know you and closest to you have the most resentment.

Exactly.

Because they know you.

Exactly.

I'd done met that could name overseas.

Yo, how's your kids doing?

Name all my kids.

Know my album.

Know everything.

Support everything I do.

Passport game shirt, Free AO shirt.

But a from the hood won't buy my shit that I know my whole life.

But a n from a whole nother side of the country is supporting me and loving me.

When I'm not here no more, those be the niggas at your funeral.

Yep.

That's the crazy part about music.

It breaks all barriers.

It has nothing to do about color because it could be a white boy that know more about hip-hop than that

hood.

Let's keep it real.

Because when you look at hip-hop, bro,

it's not going nowhere.

KRS, still touring.

Red Man, still touring.

J.

Rue the Damager, still touring.

Half of the time when I'm in my car, I'm listening to old school.

Nas,

DMX, Cool G Rap, KRS.

I might go to Nina Simone.

I might, you know what I'm saying?

I might go to Bobby Conwell.

Yeah.

Like, I'm listening to all types of music.

Music breaks every kind of barrier.

A mother could be racist and still listen to your music.

Yeah.

You know what?

We're going to be all right, though.

We're going to get past it.

Yeah, yeah.

We're going to get past.

We, us.

Yeah, definitely.

When Drake sampled your song.

Definitely.

I had to make you feel.

Shout out to Drake, man.

Definitely, man.

Cut the check.

Drake got the check.

He cut it.

It was good.

I got the call from Paul Rosenberg and a couple of people.

He wanted to use a sample from one of the mixtapes, and I was on it.

You know,

even when you look at the Drake and Kendrick thing, that was the best thing that happened to hip-hop.

It was like a breath of fresh air.

Nice battle.

As long as you keep it on wax, though, Yale.

Nice battle.

I love a battle.

Keep it on wax.

No, definitely.

But sometimes it gets past that.

It's always the entourage.

It's never.

Yeah, yeah, no, not even.

Even the artists.

Yeah.

It's always the entrepreneurs.

But when you look at battle,

KRS1, MC Shannon, KRS1 was dissing Queens, but we still listen to it.

Yeah.

From back in the days, it that might have been the first with BDP.

That might have been the first.

And then you had Queens.

Keep on faking it.

You know, we was tight, but it was like, yo, this shit is hard.

That's what I'm saying.

That was hip-hop.

See, I like the 80s hip-hop.

I had to always bring this up to people.

Think about self-destruction.

Yeah.

A lot of people, that was a big record.

You had KRS1, Cool Mo D, Big Daddy Kane, Heavy D,

Salt and Pepper, all these, even what was KRS wifey name?

Was it, I forgot her name?

KRS Girl.

Was it Miss Melody?

Melody, yes.

Miss Melody was on there.

Like, self-destruction.

We had into a self-destruction.

All the songs that you used to hear, even when you listen to

Brand Newbie.

Yes.

When they talk about cracking songs, like, yo, don't do crack.

Self-destruction.

We had into a self-destruction.

It was the crack era.

Like, that music was dope.

Public enemy, fight the power.

Yes.

That shit, like, come on, bro.

Yeah, doing research, I went back.

I did not know until, like, probably a couple of months ago that Kane was in the Juice Crew All-Stars.

I didn't know that, was he?

Yes.

I didn't know that.

Yes!

I didn't know that.

And Big Daddy Kane, like...

Hey, Kane,

Kane with the high top.

I'll be having, I'll be who you give it to, Kane or Rakim, because it's like with them.

It's bad, look.

Oh, geez, fee.

I was talking to somebody, I'm gonna put it out, and they was trying to say Kane had more swag than Rockim, but I didn't really agree with that.

I don't want to say what DJ it was, but

I felt like they was.

What do you feel like they were next to Net?

Kane and Rakim?

Yeah, I do.

But man,

when Rockim came out,

thinking of a master plane.

Yeah, Rockim.

Rock him and Kane.

But see, that was the era of the lyricist.

When you look at Kane, you look at Rockham, y'all, Slick Rick, KRS-1, you look at those guys, LL, you look at that.

I mean, those guys, you could hear everything.

It wasn't no mumbling.

You could hear every word.

And after like three or four repeats, you got it.

And then the list goes on because I did love Heavy D.

Heavy D was

before Biggie, he was the first fat fly nigga, bro.

Yes.

Absolutely.

Had hits.

That's why I said it's not down to a top five.

Dougie Fresh.

Yeah.

And then you came along in the 90s and you had Scarface.

Yeah, that's true, too.

Face.

Hey, now you talk about telephone.

The ghetto boys.

I mean, the ghetto boys was my shit.

But see, look,

we've evolved.

But I don't know, it'll never be like it was in the 80s.

Hip-hop, not rap, not like that.

No, sir.

I feel like everybody kind of hates New York because we feel like we're the innovative.

Oh, we don't pass your ATL.

We done pass y'all.

We done passed y'all.

You think so?

We passed y'all.

Don't do that.

We got a debate now.

We got a debate now.

You got a debate?

Because I'm going to tell you now: a lot of shit.

Remember what I said?

We either get killed or indicted

before we blow, right?

We lost Pop Smoke.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey.

And then 6'9, he had a buzz till he told on niggas.

Yeah.

I ain't trying to snap no clickbait, but he had a buzz before he told on.

We got a boogie, he's worldwide now.

Yeah, you know, we got we had a couple of dudes, like, but we either get indicted or something happens before it happens because you think New York had it for a long time.

Think about in the 90s, we had Big Pun, Fat Joe, DMX, D-Block.

Who am I missing?

Hove,

um, Nas,

um, Foxy Brown, Lil Kim.

Who am I missing?

Oh, look.

Y'all had cornered the market on basically everything.

You go back and look at the women rappers, Roxanne,

Roxanne, Shatay, M.C.

Lots.

Bro, y'all had cornered.

Hey, you know who y'all getting enough credit?

Queen Latifah.

Come on.

Don't play with the queen.

Don't play with the queen.

I don't give a...

Queen Latifa is in.

Don't play with the queen.

She's definitely in my top five female artists.

She was the one that, who you calling a bitch?

Yeah, come on, she went to the IT Y.

Yeah, you went to ITY.

I was definitely catching that on.

Yes, the queen.

Look,

I'm a huge Missy fan.

Oh, Missy Elliot, you can't take nothing from Missy.

Oh, my goodness.

But she, that's South.

Y'all got her.

Yeah, she from the South.

She's from BA.

Y'all got her.

But you know, Atlanta, you know,

we the keys.

Atlanta, who y'all got?

Let me think.

Don't do the who we got.

Don't do that.

Yeah.

I'm going to go with Outcast first before anybody anyway.

You can do that.

So Future don't get no love, huh?

No, Future gets love.

Okay,

let's go, but I'm talking about early Atlanta.

We got to go, Jermaine Dupree.

Yeah.

Outcast.

Who am I missing?

Well, they said it off.

When the ATLINC.

Lil John.

Come on.

Yeah, yeah.

Because

let's keep it real.

Little John had a lot of hits.

Oh, yeah.

Jermaine, John, who am I missing?

Outcast.

You know, I love Outcast.

Goodie Mob.

Good emoby.

Goody Mob.

You can't leave them out there.

You know what?

They don't.

Kill a mic.

They need to give Nob.

They need to give Cee-Lo his credit.

Nah, CeeLo, dope.

Cee-Lo, like that.

But CeeLo was more like a singer, you would think, than a rapper?

But see, no.

I didn't know he could sing like that because when he was Goody Mobi, he never did anything outside of when he started doing, we went solo and he hit crazy and he did it a cappella.

And then people like, hold on.

Ain't no rapper got no voice like that.

Yeah, definitely.

But Outcast, come on, bro.

Oh, now.

Goody Mob, definitely.

Did Goody Mob have a lot of people?

Three stacks?

Yeah.

So we got to think about early Atlanta before we go in the future.

And no disrespect to with Atlanta, but you know, I'm always New York, man.

Yeah, you know.

You know, I'm always New York.

I mean, for the longest time, you know, that's what I'm trying to tell me Cube is better than Nas.

And I love Ice Cube.

I love NWA, but I'm always going to say Nas is better than Cube.

And no disrespect to him.

He's a legend.

It used to just be the coast.

But

it's done moved down to the south because it used to be the East Coast, West Coast.

It was New York, L.A.

You know what I'm saying?

I felt like it came to a point where,

because I remember going down like early G-Unit, we was going down south, and I remember we went to like a radio thing.

I think we was in Texas.

It was me and Banks.

And they was like, we tired of out of, we was there.

I'm like, why did it happen?

It's a radio.

Sometimes we have your radio,

no reason.

Nelson, I don't know what he did.

He's a f ⁇ ing brought me to Calais.

He had us down south.

Me and Banks did.

I think we were in Texas.

And he was like, it started off.

We tired of playing out of town.

F them niggas.

We looking around.

I think it came to a point where Down South said, f New York rap.

Yeah, yeah.

Y'all had it for you.

I'm just keeping it real.

It came to a point where Down South turned their back on New York rap.

But me, I'm keeping it real.

And I love Down South rap.

But I remember, you know, Mob Deep shows, they do shows.

They go in Atlanta.

Niggas is turning their back.

They want to hear

goodie mob.

Then they want to hear.

Then you got Jeezy.

You got Gucci, man, you got Luda.

They had their time.

Yeah, Jeezy and Gucci.

T.I.

Yeah, or Tip.

Yep.

See?

Yeah, T.I.

is cool.

But 80s

still my favorite time of rap.

Because I'm old enough to, I'm old enough.

I'm a teenager.

Yeah.

So, you know, I'm a teenager, and so I'm rock him and KRS1 and Kane and Snake Rick and all those guys.

Yeah, yeah, man.

Yeah, them f ⁇ ers, that's when, to me, hip-hop was crazy.

Video, music, box, everything was exclusive.

Like, I remember that.

Like, there was no internet.

So when a DJ say, oh, I'm about to,

when Tupac and Biggie was beefing and Flex was like, yo, I'm about to play

new Biggie, who shot you?

Like, we got to run to the radio in the car.

Oh, shit, Biggie about to play the new Flex gonna play who shot you?

Because Flex was, you know, to be on Flex was like, oh, yeah.

To be on Mount Rushmore at that time to do a flex restyle.

Oh, shit.

I'll never forget that.

Like going to the radio, running to the radio in the car just to hear Biggie New Who Shotcha.

Nobody had it.

He had it.

Only certain DJs would get it first.

That's why I like

with music now, it's too much shit coming out.

It's too many artists.

It's not no exclusivity.

Like you said, even with the social media, there's no exclusivity.

Like, I remember when shit was just exclusive.

Like, oh, shit.

And you had to have more than one song.

Yes.

It wasn't no one song and you were hitting bro.

You had to put, no, you had to put the, you had your album had to be lit.

And most of it were lit from front to back.

The A-end, you have some, you have three or four hits on the B-side.

Now, dude had one song and he talked about we're going to make him a star.

He got a TikTok dance.

I'm lit.

But back then.

You really had to be lit.

Yeah, your whole album.

Yeah, for sure.

Your whole mixtape, Jay-Z, hard knock life, Nas.

You know, like, come on your shit had to be lit for niggas even little kim and foxy let's keep it real like i can't take nothing from them even though they was beefing that shit was like

they was coming with records beats like i remember when biggie when he said that one line get off my dick kick it you know when he said and little kim came in doom do even the beats to me was better yeah When you listen to beats, like when you listen to the

Life After Death and shit like that, and Get Richard Die Trying or Ill Maddock, to me, the beats was like totally different.

Not taking that from what the producer's doing now and the sound now, because I listen to everything.

You know, I listen to Future, Gunner, you know, everybody.

But to me, the beats back then was different.

A Swiss beat, a Timberland beat, you know what I'm saying?

A Dre beat.

Who else?

Scott Stewart's beat?

It was just like, come on.

And that shit and that kind of music lasts forever.

Like,

we 30 years in the game and we still touring.

Like I just said, we just came back off tour.

Yeah.

You know, with fifth, and we still touring.

Still.

And I do my own tours too for people.

Oh, yo.

You see?

Hey,

I do my own tours.

I did tours in Canada.

I did a tour across the whole Germany and the Swiss Alps.

And that's why I don't care about the hate.

Because I'm like, I got the possibility to do my own tour.

Like

something with Memphis Bleak.

Memphis Bleak said,

Norrie, Ye-yo said, Jay-Z didn't have us on tour like he did.

Or I eat my own halal.

I eat my own halal too, if you want to say that.

To Memphis Bleak,

I just came off my last tour.

All I'm saying is when you see Jay-Z in a setting, he never really, when he's doing a Beyonce show or whatever, you don't see Memphis Bleak on the stage or him being brought out.

You know, even if I'm doing the hype man shit with 50, he's bringing me out.

I'm making money.

I'm going to.

That's that man girl, too.

That's it.

That's Hove

wife tour.

Yeah, that's Hove.

Yeah, Hove wife tour.

So if I, if Ho,

I believe if Hove was out on his own, he would bring Bleak out.

There is no need for him to bring Bleak in a situation where I look like this was the last tour you're talking about with the cowboy Carter.

Right.

Yeah.

So to me, because I look at Bleak as a loyal guy.

Like, I'm a loyal guy to check.

But I look at like fifth, my guy Hervey, one day we had TRF,

and it's uh

It's the young gunners there.

Yeah, and I'm talking with him Zali and Hervey says loud you don't got to worry about nothing you got 50 Jay-Z doesn't do nothing for these guys like 50 does

and Hervey I think he worked with them too, but he said that to me and I always stuck in my head rest in peace to him and He was like yo, you got 50 because 50 always

Like for instance when he dropped his album He he didn't have to drop the bank for mercy.

He wanted to drop G-Unit brand.

He branded us on the way with him, you know, until this day.

People knock me out the way.

50-50.

Sometimes your own security, his security might knock you out the way.

Or people might knock you out the way.

I'm never going to feel the way about a

celebrity.

As long as I'm there and I'm getting what I deserve, you know, everybody can't be Beyonce.

Everybody can't be Jay-Z.

Everybody can't beat Nas.

Everybody can't be Snoop.

Everybody can't be Dre.

Some motherfuckers might be

who had Tupac?

The Outlaws.

Yeah.

That's how I always looked at it.

Like,

you got 50, you got G-Unit.

You got Tupac, you got the Outlaws.

You got Snoop, you got Dog Pam.

Right.

It's cool.

It's levels to the shit, and it's cool.

You know, it's just want to always outdo you.

Cube got Lynch Mob.

Yeah, Lynch Mob.

It's cool.

Everybody can't be Ice Cube.

You know?

Well, you're about to get in trouble again because they say 50 gave you a meal, gave you a ticket

when you got out.

Yeah.

I lived in Battery Park.

I used to come out my apartment, see the Statue of Liberty, you know.

Damn.

A lot of,

look, when you look at a lot of rappers, where they die at?

In their hood.

Nipsey was doing a good thing for the community, right?

But he died in his hood.

Stack Bundles, good rapper.

One of the best rappers ever.

Where he died.

He died in his hood.

Freaky Ty, grew up with a mockery, dope rapper.

Where he died in his hood.

What's up with that?

Because the hood, the streets never really got no love, man.

You could feel like, I think I always felt like when I looked at Freaky Ty, I used to buy niggas sneakers and

look out for niggas.

You should be, I mean, you should be applauded and you're like, he made it.

Man, hey, one of our guys that grew up in this block, that grew up over here, grew up like us, he made it out.

They should applaud that.

They shouldn't be envious of that.

Nah, man, you're always going to be a target in the limelight.

That's how I always look at it.

You're always going to be a target.

That's how I look at it, especially in the hood, because we old rappers die in Nigeria.

They don't die in the suburbs, nowhere else.

They die in Niger.

But then why do people get mad to talk about, well, he don't come back?

He don't come back to the hood.

He don't do nothing in this hood.

I mean, you could do for the hood.

You don't have to be there.

You know, you can feed everybody with a long spoon.

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You don't got to be there all the time.

You might not have time to be there.

It's cool.

50 got charities and do shit for people.

You might not be there all the time.

Niggas giving out turkeys and hood and giving clothes and coats and doing shit.

G-Unit Foundation.

You know,

you ain't got to do that.

Like, I work with a foundation through the Knicks, right?

And they give back to families that, you know, when they lose somebody,

or financial distress, or,

and it's called a Garden of Dreams, too.

Shout out to them.

You know, it's Joe is the owner of the Knicks.

Okay.

You know, he.

Dolan.

Yeah, Dolan.

And they give back to families that lose parents.

They can't bury them.

Somebody dies in the family.

Sickness, school, mentorship.

I went there, I talked to some of the kids.

A boogie works with them.

I work with them.

I talk with Central C, rap up with them.

Like, that's what it's about, is giving back.

Because at the end of the day, you can have all the money, the jury, you can have as much money as Lloyd Mayweather.

You can show everything, 2,000 cars.

Might not like you for that.

It's all about giving back, bro, at the end of the day, because that's what people are gonna remember you for and being humble that's one thing look at look how far i've been going humble in the past two years i got myself hot started praying started you know leaving a lot of alone streets and started really focusing on myself and i realized like my podcast deal working on that now bad joe volume up um nori wanted to give me a deal like and i'm on after this prices go up i hope y'all know

prices go up after this you know so like and and just praying Right.

And that my life has been way better, bro.

Way better.

Yeah, what do you learn about money?

Oh, man.

The money thing about money is save it.

Because save it for a rainy day.

Because, you know, you know, as when you first get on and you make all these purchases and you buy this.

One thing about Fifth, he always was like tight with his money.

Eminem, tight with his money.

So you learn to kind of save instead of spending.

And like my first purchase and my biggest biggest purchase was a house.

Right.

You know, I bought a nice house in Long Island and then I bought another house.

You know, so like 50 encourages.

Yo, you get money, go get a house.

That's like Uncle Murder.

He's down with us now.

He was signing Jay-Z.

He got his first house being down with us.

Right.

That's my man.

Wow.

Because Fifth is going to say, you're going to make a whole bunch of money with Fifth.

Make, you know, you go on tour.

Because you got to think, you go on tour,

you make a quick half a million million.

Yeah.

You know, shout to young Buck.

Buck was my nigga, but he was the most impulsive spender in gene

you know he'll make a half a million and at that time we so young we not thinking about the quarter million you got to get taxed taxes yeah right so he'll make the half a million right

i'm gonna buy this car i'm gonna buy this car i'm gonna buy a chain you go to his house you know i got a nice bed buck bed he got the tv coming out of the bed.

He got an all-white room.

His daughter got a door explorer room.

The nigga got the Bentley, the Chevelle, this, that.

And you spending the money as you get it.

You can go on tour.

Say you make a half a million in two months.

You're not thinking about the leisure time that you got to pay them taxes.

You done spent that money.

Yeah.

Now you like, now

you got to go to a like a Jay-Z or a 50 and be like, oh, man, I might need a loan on this.

But this shit is business.

You done spent that money on your own.

So I never ever blame a

for my mistakes and nobody should.

Because you got to learn shit on your own.

Motherfuckers ain't thinking about that.

That's a tough lesson to learn at the time, though.

Because anytime, especially once you get to a certain tax bracket, whatever you make, you have that.

But them people around, let me tell you something.

The people that's around, a Beyonce, a 50, a Jay-Z, a Nas, they don't give a f about the niggas that's around.

They don't give a f about, yay, yo, banks, this nigga, this nigga.

They care about 50 cents.

That's it.

So they're not going to school you the game.

We don't go to school and we don't learn about real estate and tax and shit like that.

Because no, no, that's their

50 is their responsibility.

Hove is their responsibility.

Beyonce is their responsibility.

Whomever the artist.

What about the nigga?

The auxiliary pieces, they don't care about it.

They just know you got this money and some people are going to figure out a way to monopolize.

Like, I'm going to tell you.

And I'm not mad at them, but Shaw Money and 50s baby moms turn into real estate agents when they know we had house money.

So I bought my house with Shaw Money or for Shop Money.

Lady and it's cool.

We kept the money in

the family, but they knew to turn into real estate.

These niggas got some money.

I could make some money off them.

Right.

But school me the game, because I might not probably bought a house for a million at that time.

I could have bought a house for probably a half a million.

Right.

Am I wrong or right here?

You're right.

My first purchase might have not had to have been a million-dollar house, but that's more money for them at the same time, too.

But as you get older, you realize that.

And I don't take nothing from Shop Money.

He's a good dude, but he made profit, him and his lady, for selling me that house.

It was a smart move on their part

but people never care about the that's around me i i listen nobody ever cared about yay yo only person that cared about yay yo is 50.

right they only gonna do if 50 say do it the lawyer is only gonna move if 50 say do it do it the hotel is gonna be nice only if 50 say do it they'll have put me in a crackhead hotel You know what I'm saying?

But 50's not, nah, he's gonna be in this hotel.

And that's why I got the respect for him.

It's not glazing.

It's not dick riding.

No, you give credit where it's due.

You give credit where it's due.

That's it.

That's it.

It's not my show.

It's his show.

And one thing I never forget, I do clubs.

You know, House of Blue, shit like that.

I don't do arenas.

I ain't Chris Brown.

I ain't 50.

I ain't Jay-Z.

And I'm cool with that.

When I'm on stage and I'm in front of 30,000, 40,000, these people ain't screaming for Yale.

They screaming for 50 Cent.

I do my job.

Because it's a business.

I'm cool with everybody in production.

Stay out the way.

I don't bother nobody and I keep it moving.

That's it.

i get my money and and that's it gone yeah

your debut album thoughts uh thoughts of a uh predicate felon you went gold you finished second place the late registration kanye

you like

because kanye album yeah kanye me up that year i'll never forget it because he was like uh

who was the president at that time bush yeah he was like the president is

racist and remember he went viral before going viral was what it was yeah i always had obstacles in my career.

Like, I dropped the same day as Kanye.

Got locked, came home, got locked up.

I'm used to it, bro.

But I'm still here, man.

You know, but that was crazy.

I probably would have gone platinum that same day if it wasn't for Kanye.

But he dropped.

And you know what's crazy about my career?

Because I remember seeing Kanye in the studio with Dr.

Dre.

Yeah.

And I didn't even know who he was.

He was nobody at that point.

Because at that time, he was probably just doing beats, dude, right?

He wasn't rapping.

Before the accident, he was doing beats.

He was in Dre studio.

He was in 50 year.

I think he was trying to get on the album.

I didn't know who he was.

And now I look at him like, oh, shit, this is Kanye West.

Damn.

I remember when Ludacris did radio.

50 beat up Ja Ru in Atlanta, punched him in his eye.

He had a black eye running around.

Ludacris was doing radio.

That really happened?

50 points, Ja?

50 always beating up Ja Ru, man.

That was like a regular thing, man.

Ja Ru and them, they never really been tough guys to me.

Like Irv, I don't really know them.

They just had a tough guy image because they was around, you know,

Preem.

Preem.

Chris Gotti just had a story he's talking about.

He clothes on 50 playing.

50 don't even play basketball.

Niggas just make up shit because it's the internet.

Like, I don't try to glorify this gangster shit, but Jairu has never been a street nigga.

Right.

They be trying to get 50 to respond, huh?

50 a real street nigga.

You know,

I saw some lady talking about, well, you know, 50 was one of those little guys.

50 never said he was a kingpin.

Nah.

But you, but you know what I'm talking about when that lady was saying.

That was his BM that said that, I think.

Oh, okay.

So she going, and he had a whole bunch of yay-o's.

I didn't even work for 50.

He had a whole bunch of little yay-o's.

People always try to discredit you.

50 was 50.

Oh, so.

Look, 50 was 15 with a forerunner.

He was 16, 17 with a Benz.

Niggas was getting money.

I don't glorify it because we was pumping poison in the hood.

So it was not something to glorify.

Somebody's talking about it.

But you're just speaking factuals, though.

What was that?

Niggas wasn't El Chapo.

Niggas wasn't Pablo.

But we was happy.

A nigga get to a brick in the hood, he happy.

Nigga, you get to a half a bird.

You get to 150 grams.

250 grams.

Niggas was happy.

I felt like El Chapo.

I had 250 grams.

Oh, shit.

I'm at 250.

Oh, shit.

Of course.

But now we look at that money as nothing.

That's the whole point.

Niggas are dying in the hood over bullshit money.

Look how far we've been now.

Now that's not even one show.

People always want to try to discredit you and say shit, bad shit about you, you know, and be mad because you might not give them.

Money is a.

I don't ever want 50s money.

I don't ever want that much money.

Money is a

every day.

Everybody's out to get you.

Give me Jimmy Iveen stay.

I don't want to be.

No, listen, give me a little bit of money and I'm good.

It's like once a nigga get to 100 million.

You want the fortune, but not the fame to come along with it.

It's like once the nigga get to 100 million, he's f ⁇ ed or something.

Give me 10 million, 20, I'm I'm good.

When you announce, when you aiming to get 100 million, it's like everybody's coming for you.

Lawsuits.

Dude, stick-up kids.

It's just too much, bro.

Give me a simple life.

Simple.

What's it like working with Dre in the studio?

Dre is the best experience ever in the studio, man.

We used to smoke that Guido.

He had his guy in there playing the piano.

He was playing nothing but hits.

Like I said, like Kanye came in there.

He played records with Rockim.

He had, you know, at that point, he had a girl named Brooklyn.

He had Shout Joe Beast at that time.

He had Game.

He had a whole bunch of artists.

Because a lot of artists was dope.

Just Dre is just a real picky.

Because you don't want to work with me.

He didn't work with Drew.

He didn't shoot you when it ain't coming out.

Like, he did records with Dipset.

That shit ain't never come out.

He did records with certain people.

It ain't never coming out.

But he's like a real particular nigga.

Like, I remember he used to tell 50, do one line over and over again.

Do it over.

Say it like this.

And I understood sometimes it's not what you say.

it's how you say it.

Dre is a perfectionist as well as an Eminem.

So that was an experience.

I'm a from the hood, never had nothing, never even been to L.A.

I remember we were staying at the Beverly.

50 was told my man, me and my man Weezy, he was like, yo, don't touch the M ⁇ Ms in the shit.

You know, the M ⁇ Ms in the hotel.

Yeah, the thing that's the same thing.

The M ⁇ Ms cost like $16.

He's like, whatever you want, we can just go to the store.

I know my man, he was mad at my man because he touched the M ⁇ M.

Till this day, I still buy that shit.

I'm in the Fountain Blue over here.

I stayed there.

$20 for a Fiji water.

I'm like, yo, I'll just go to the store.

Right.

Have my man Funk take me store.

Order for $3.

I'm a hood nigga.

It's never going to leave me.

You know, you can take me out the hood, but it's always in me.

You got to be in the studio with Beyonce.

Beyonce is one of the hardest-working women, hardest-working people.

I don't want to generate, I don't want to say man or woman, but

to see what she's become

from where she came.

She was big back then when we was in the studio.

I remember Tony Polk kicked everybody out.

50 had

a record with her called Thug Love.

And they was all in the studio when they kicked everybody out.

It was Thug Love.

This is before 50 got shot.

Because 50 was going to blow off Power of the Dollar.

He had Beyonce.

He had Tony Polk.

Track Masters at the time was very big.

They was working with big artists, P.

Diddy.

They was working with R.

Kelly.

They was working with J-Lo.

He was working with everybody.

And

niggas got kicked out of the studio.

Couldn't be in the studio.

That's when it was Destiny Child.

But yeah, it's crazy when you see a lot of artists even become bigger than you.

It's amazing.

You're like, damn, shit.

I'm not mad at my career, but their career took well off past mine.

Like I said, to see Kanye where he was at, or to see Luda.

I think the most impressive thing that I've seen in my lifetime might be Beyonce.

in one genre and then go to another genre.

Yeah, she's out of here.

You can't f ⁇ with the bees, man.

That shit is, you know.

It's crazy.

Million dollar shit, man.

That's shit.

She's crazy.

Yeah, Beyonce is on a whole nother level.

You know, to me, it's Beyonce, Taylor Swift, they neck and neck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It ain't nobody else close.

Not it, not in, not, I don't know if there's anybody, it's, I mean, not in the feet, not in the woman's space, ain't nobody close to those two.

Nah, nah, there's them two, show-wise.

Yeah.

They neck and neck to me.

Because I feel like Beyonce came first and then they made Taylor Swift.

They had to make something that could match Beyonce.

And it's cool.

I f with Taylor Swift.

I don't really listen to like Beyonce.

You know, they neck and neck.

That's ridiculous, the shows and the tickets they sell.

I read you went to Jimmy Ivine's mansion.

Yeah,

that was crazy.

That was crazy.

Because

he lived right across the street from the Playboy Mansion.

Right.

So that was like.

So he had, what you call him?

He had a Homie Hills.

Yeah, he had

FBI guys with dogs.

Like, it was fing crazy.

He had a movie theater and this shit.

Tables was spinning.

He had, you know, people serving us.

As the tables were spinning, he had a

candy store in the movie theater.

It was like crazy, man.

I ain't never seen nothing like that.

Real money, man.

And

my first time ever leaving the hood, going to Cali, like, damn, this is crazy.

You're like, I don't want this much money.

I do want that much money, but shit.

You know what comes a little wiggle, but it's like.

Yeah, I know.

You got to be low-key.

You got to be on the low.

You have to be low-key.

Because them lawsuits, see, 50 caught a lot of lawsuits because a lot of beatdowns, dudes getting jail broke,

50,000.

50 paying that.

I'm suing you and 50.

You think I got nothing to do with 50?

Yeah, but people will associate the name.

Yes.

That's like one of your camera guys.

He slaps somebody right now.

I'm suing you and Shay Shay.

Yep.

You slap me right now.

I'm going to sue you too.

I was like,

we make it even slap him back.

That's all I got for you, guys.

You got to slap it back.

Yo, yo, bro, when you in a a lot, I'm like, you a walking lawsuit.

He in the Hall of Fame, man, man, this brother.

Oh, shit.

He got money.

Slap me.

I got slapped by Shay Shay.

You slap me, Shay Shay.

You might fall to the ground now.

That's how a motherfucker look at it.

Dave Chappelle.

Oh, man.

Dave Chappelle, like I said, man.

And so many jewels he got.

I told you, we was out there.

I think we was in Ohio.

We went to a store.

He's a real laid-back guy, no cameras.

But I told you, you know, look, why are you turning down all that money?

My belly was full.

God made my belly full.

The most humblest thing I've heard in my life from somebody.

He don't care about jewelry.

Nope.

It's just farmland, nice air.

They tried to take away, see, the thing

that makes Chappelle special,

they tried to take away something he never prioritized,

which was money and fame.

So when they tried to strip it from him, it didn't bother him.

So now he can just like, I'm performing at such and such, and it's sold out in five minutes.

Yeah.

So when they take something that wasn't important to you to begin with,

it can't impact you.

That's crazy.

But you know, other people in public and other friends and family, I know they're going to look at you crazy.

You turned out 50 million.

That's crazy.

But he never valued that.

That's why when he left, when Hollywood turned his back on him, you ain't see him go back, try to beat down doors and try to get back into acting.

You ain't see him try to get another show.

Nah.

Because you tried to take something that he didn't value to begin with.

You can only harm someone if you take something that they value.

Right.

Yeah, that was a sponge for me when he said that.

Carl got my belly full already, yay-yo.

Like, damn.

When you hear somebody turn that amount of money, because people look, you know, kill selling soul for that kind of money.

Yeah, for sure.

He's turning it down.

I'm like, wow.

And he said, Carl got my belly full.

That was a drew for me, man.

Definitely.

100%.

When you saw John Cena do your dance, what did you think?

Oh, man, that was crazy.

He always gave me props, though.

He always say his brother amped him up to do it.

And he always gave me my props.

I wish I would have made some money off of it, though, some way, somehow.

That dance was actually made

with 50 Son Marquise because I was on the run.

And I think he was at that video shoot.

And I always used to go, what are you going to do when the.

I remember him as a kid.

What are you going to do when the

police see you on TV?

Ayo.

And I'd be like, I'm just going to do this dance.

Because I was in the club on the run.

That's where it originally came from.

In the club video shoot.

Good times, man.

I'll tell you, I had more fun before the money came.

Right.

Boy.

Well, they brought it back because I think Angel Reese did it in the bank with Angel Reese.

She did it.

You know, she's definitely an entertaining basketball player.

I think she had a double-double the other night.

Yeah.

And John Cena just made it to her.

Yeah, John Cena, yeah.

But he always gave me my props for it and admit to it.

So, you know.

You mentioned this earlier.

I sat down with Fat Joe.

And I asked, I said, Fat Joe, Yale was was telling the story.

I think you guys was at a radio station

and you tried to make peace and you went to dap him up.

Yeah, with Callie.

No, that was Callie.

Callie.

Yeah.

Well, Callie would tell the story.

I told my man Nelson, right?

Yes.

I told him, I said, yo, listen, I don't want to.

Seductive was out.

Meanwhile, my street team's getting chased around because street team used to go through it.

G-Unit street team used to get shot at,

chased, beat up, all kinds of shit.

So my street team was going at it because you put a Yay-Yo post-up, fake your post-up, motherfuckers on you, right?

Right.

I told him I don't want to go to radio.

We go to radio.

Cal is there.

He got.

Did you know he's going to be there?

Yeah.

Okay.

My man Nelson, because sometimes people that do radio really, they understand radio, but they don't understand the street politics.

Right.

I told him, let's skip this.

We don't have to do this.

Right.

Yo, we got to to do this.

I make sure I go up there correct.

He got his guy there.

I'm not going to say no names because, like Callie said, he ain't want to say no name.

He knows who he is.

He's a street nigga.

He's well known.

He's certified.

And his waist is bulging.

Right?

From that day on, I knew it was on.

This is Florida.

Niggas got choppers and all kinds of shit.

I'm not taking nothing lightly because I leave New York.

I'm not one of them New York niggas to think, oh, I'm from New York.

We the toughest.

I know I can get it in St.

Louis.

I know I can get it in Atlanta.

I know I can get it in Florida for sure.

I know.

Use it in Dallas.

Yeah, for sure.

I'm a paranoid nigga.

That's what kept me alive this whole time.

You know what I'm saying?

That's what keeps you alive.

Paranoid.

So, you know, I went to shake Callie hand, and he did what he was supposed to do.

You, yay, yo.

You know, at that time, he was getting extremely hot.

Because here's the thing now.

If you know Callie, Kelly's all about.

Yeah.

he one of them guys.

So for Callie

not to shake your hand or or to say what you but we the industry most hated though.

Yeah.

That's what I'm trying to tell you.

To this day they still hate us.

You know, do Louie Banks get his credit?

No.

Do Yale get his credit?

Do 50 get his credit?

Yeah.

When 50 do shit that's amazing, they always gonna praise 50.

Right.

You know, but everybody don't get their credit.

Game, do we get his credit right now?

Right.

Even Buck, I can't take nothing away from none of them.

We all sold records and did big things.

But do we get our credit?

No, because G-Unit was the most hated.

Our separation with game is game wanted to do his own thing, you know, collab with other artists.

When you look at it in hindsight, he didn't have to be loyal to 50 because everybody ain't gonna be loyal to 50.

Everybody ain't gonna be a Yale.

Everybody ain't gonna be a Banks.

Right.

He more wanted to do his own thing.

Right.

When you look at it in hindsight,

it's cool.

Right.

It's just the way he went about it.

Just a little more humble.

You know, because

Game, I remember when he called me to be on his album, and I was like, damn, hell yeah, that's dope.

I remember speaking to his moms, and she's like, yo, I'm happy for him.

Right.

You know,

I'm one of them niggas that embrace any nigga that come to the team because I thought it was family.

But then what I realized about the industry is this, it's not, these people ain't your friends and family, it's just business.

Is there ever, is there, I shouldn't say ever, chance?

Give her a percentage,

Fifth,

Yale,

Banks, Buck, Game.

I would love that.

That would make us a lot of money.

But 50 don't need the money, though.

50 done with it.

Yeah, he's done with it.

He don't care about G unit no more.

He's past.

He's on the films and got a shit in Street Port going on and liquor and all kinds of shit.

But as for me,

I look at it like I wish a lot of shit just didn't happen.

You know, Buck was a dope artist.

Game is a dope artist.

Banks, I still talk to Banks this day.

You know, but that'll be dope.

And even if it couldn't be Game and Buck, if it was me, Banks, and 50, and do like a mixtape tour,

that would be cool with me because that's who I really grew up with.

That's why I can't never get mad at Banks.

I mean, mad at Game.

Game was from L.A.

You know what I'm saying?

He was from.

Yeah.

He ain't grew up with you guys.

Yeah, Buck wasn't from Tennessee.

He ain't grew up with us.

But for me, me outside looking in, I'm seeing dudes with cars and jewelry.

And I'm like, damn, motherfuckers ain't happy.

But, you know, the thing about groups and with music is there's always egos.

Yep.

That's why you can't have a self-destruction in the music game now.

It's too many egos.

Yeah.

Jay-Z, Nas50, you can't put them in

a room and make a We Are the World record.

Too many egos.

Fat Joe say, man, I wish I had me a Tony Yale.

So I'd give my right hand to have a Tony Yale.

I love Fat Joe.

Fat Joe's working on a deal for me right now for my podcast.

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Shout out to Vlad because Vlad is a big platform.

I've done interviews where I do 18 million views, 24 million views,

million dollars worth of game.

So now I want to transition to the podcast.

This is what I want to do because I could talk forever, man.

Yeah.

So now you want to, you know, instead of people asking you questions, you want to ask other people.

Maybe you could put me on.

Maybe Shay Shay could put me on.

What y'all think?

I don't know.

We can get some info.

We can stay some info.

You keep some bull drive going.

What?

You took a shot at Ja.

Ja Ru?

Yeah.

About them little ticket sales.

Listen.

Why you got to do that?

Yeah.

Man, okay, the man ain't selling like he once did.

It's okay.

He's not fifth.

He's not going to be fifth.

And that's okay.

Why you got to keep juggling?

You know what it is with Ja Jairu?

It just, you know, it's just something till the day we're not here.

I just would never like you.

And he low-hanging fruit, though.

You don't got to...

That's true, but

you ain't got to like me.

It's the thing is,

you know, he was winning.

All you had to do was stay in your lane.

You shouldn't even even have answered 50, but 50 played the chess game with you and beat you at your own game.

You know what it is with them?

They was blessed, and they tried to block 50's blessings.

And that's what f ⁇ ed them up because God don't like ugly.

I once heard somebody say that.

They tried to block 50's blessings when they was blessed already.

We should have just left it alone.

Yeah, you should.

You know?

My grandma used to say this all the time.

My grandma said, boy, God don't like ugly.

Sometimes he don't like pretty.

Yeah.

And even with the herb things, like,

I didn't say nothing bad about him when he passed away, but

it's still f ⁇ them.

And if something happened, God forbid happened to me or 50 or anybody in our group, I know it'd be fuck us.

Sometimes life is just like that.

Some people just never get along, and it's cool.

So, you're gonna be gonna be arguing with Jaw.

You 100 years ago?

I'm not even arguing with y'all.

I just don't with y'all.

I don't with a lot of people in the industry, Shay.

Right, they're not my friends, and I had to realize that the hard way.

You got stabbed, you were in the fight with and you got stabbed.

I got cut, it was nothing serious.

Got cut right here, little scar right there, and a little scar on the finger.

It just looked like a lot because blood was coming out, right?

But it was scratches that could have gone left because that thing was there.

If it was in that room, there would be no Jairu.

There would be no 50.

I put that on my father.

There would be no Jairu.

There would be no 50.

Because somebody would have squeezed, somebody would have went to jail, and Jairu would have been finished.

They came with crutches and

butcher knives and fruit shit.

Like, come on.

They didn't come with no artillery.

We had artilleries, but if that gun was in that room, and I shit you not, if that gun, with the 45 with no safety, was in that room, there would be no Jairu.

Or whoever else was in that room, his brother, her brother, whoever was in that room, when we was getting it on.

You said earlier that you thought the Drake and the Kendrick beef was good.

Yeah.

For who?

For hip-hop?

For Kendrick?

I think it was good for hip-hop because at that point, all we was listening to was Sexy Red.

Damn.

My man Strike worked in the club.

Like, that's all I was playing in the club was Sexy Red.

I'm like, oh, shit, this is hip-hop.

I come off of battle rap.

KRS1, MC Shan.

Yep.

You know what I'm saying?

BDP.

BDP Nas.

Yep.

Ether versus Jay-Z.

Big Time Hip-Hop.

Tupac.

50 Ja Ru.

Tupac, Machiavelli, this and Diddy, this and Jay.

Even this Prodigy.

Rest in Peace, Prodigy.

Prodigy was my joint.

LL and Fumo D.

Remember we had LA, LA, they had New York.

Dog Pound had New York, New York, and Big City of Dreams.

LL and Fab.

LL and Fub.

Cannabis.

Yeah, cannabis.

Cannabis.

My bad.

Come on.

Cannabis.

Second round knockout, cannabis came in one.

LL was working.

Dog Pound when they had

New York, New York, Big City of Dreams.

Remember that back in the day?

I think they got shot at too.

Snoop and them when they came to New York.

When they shot that video, there was a rumor.

I don't know how real that is.

I love Uncle Snoop and Dog Pound.

And then Prodigy and them had LA LA, Big City of Dreams, because Pac was this and them.

Right.

That was hip-hop.

I'm not going to sit here and not say I didn't listen to Machiavelli.

Yeah.

But I'm definitely listening to Biggie Hushacha.

I'm not going to say I didn't like that.

That was hip.

You listened to Hit Him Up.

Yeah, of course.

But then Biggie came back with all kinds of shit.

Who shot you?

You know what I'm saying?

Biggie.

Come on.

Biggie and Pac B.

I think that was entertainment

for the world at that point.

Even though it was sad that they both died because of the situation.

But come on.

They didn't keep it on wax.

Let's act like we didn't like that.

Didn't like that battle.

Let's act like magazines and publications.

What we had back then, Vibe, Swords, Vibe, yeah, yeah.

Come on, New York, LA, West Coast, beef, East Coast, West Coast.

Let's act like, come on, bro.

How did Jay-Z and Big Pun diss in 50?

Remember, 50 had How to Rob back in the day.

Yeah.

And he was talking about I rob pun without a gun.

Rest in peace, the pun.

Right.

And Jay-Z, you remember he had that drink.

I'm about a dollar.

That was a hot record too.

He said, I'm about a dollar.

What the f ⁇ is 50 Cent?

I forgot.

Was that on the...

What album was that?

That was Hard Knock Like?

No.

Yeah, because 50 dissed him on How to Rob.

Right.

See, How to Rob was a crazy record because that's the first time a rapper actually

kind of dissed every rapper.

Right.

But it was comical because the mad rap, no, rad rappers on there, Rodney Jerkins.

And

he said, this ain't serious, but the rappers took it serious because it's all about image.

Rappers don't want to hear their name.

She can get real.

Yeah, for sure.

Pun snatched up who kid back in the day for leaking up a record.

Who kids always talk about it?

Throw him in the van.

Pun wasn't playing with niggas.

Like, it's serious.

Certain niggas ain't.

But Pun was really like that, though.

Yeah, Joe and them was really like that.

Like, for real.

Yeah, Joe and them, the Bronx.

Come there, man.

People would be.

Somebody called

Jonocchio.

What?

Like, Joe B.

Light, say Joe B., you know, be stretching the truth a little bit.

His stories is funny as hell, but

I like crack.

The beef we had, I love crack.

Like Pistol Pete,

and Joe, and the niggas that was around was serious because, like, Bronx, Spanish niggas in the Bronx is as dangerous as black people in the Bronx.

Wow.

They dangerous, too.

You know, you got Spanish gangs, Trinitarios.

Yeah.

You got Dominican power.

You know, these pull out machetes and shit.

You know, they from the struggle too.

Right.

You know, and them motherfuckers that he had around, them niggas would, they would die for the cause.

Pistol Pete, you know, them, they would, they would, I think they would have died for Joe.

As well as we felt like we would die for 50, right?

They felt the same way.

Help me understand.

Because 50 had a great shoe with Reebok.

At the time, I think Jay was the creator director of Reeboks.

How did that go?

I mean, everybody making money.

How did it fall apart, Yale?

I don't even, I honestly don't know.

I know I was making over $100,000 a a year just wearing the shoe and we wasn't wearing it.

And I know 50 got mad at us one day because, you know, you got Dion, I got Deion, Louis on, whatever.

And 50 looked at everybody's shoes and was like, nigga, nigga, y'all got the shoes on.

Because he knew what marketing was.

Yes.

He wore the G-unit.

The G-Unicol was selling, he wore it.

You know, we wasn't wearing it.

We was wearing Louis Vuitton, shit like that.

They weren't paying you no money, though.

No, we got paid.

Not for Louis Vuitton?

No, I'm not from Louis Vuitton.

But that's what I'm saying.

That's what he understood, the marketing aspect of it.

It's like, how can you expect us to sell something that you're not wearing?

I mean, we do it to this day.

I got on Louis Vuitton right now.

You got on Dior, but I got a black brand right here, Top Flexer, and another black brand.

I mean, if I had a bunch of color, if I had a shoe, I'd be having on my shoe.

No, that's cool.

You should have had your shoes.

I wear them too.

Now, we're going to send you a bottle.

We're going to see you able to bottle shoes.

Send me a bottle.

Like, I don't mind supporting.

Like, sometimes I feel like we'll support other brands and support other people's brands.

Like, the guy that I'm wearing this top flexer, I'm not getting paid for this.

Right.

G-Unit, they're not cutting me a check for this.

I just like the hoodie.

But I like wearing, you know, people that are hungry brands too.

I don't mind.

I like Kiff.

I love

Ameri.

I love Louie.

I love that too.

But I want to, you know.

Buy other stuff too.

Yeah.

And we, and look, we'll spend big time money like a Luayve shirt.

Yeah.

You want to buy a t-shirt?

That's $650 for a short sleeve sleeve

t-shirt.

And a dude in the hood might have a shirt as well as that and might be selling that for $150 and we don't want to support.

Come on, man.

We got to support.

Come on.

I agree.

I agree.

Even on tour, I like to wear like other people's brands.

Max Siegelman, this guy's the next guy.

He has deals with New York Knicks, Rangers, all these people.

I still, you know, I wear his, but I wear my man Ty Plexer from the hood that don't got nowhere near them.

Right.

When 50 jumping on the stage with Jay-Z, Dead AT.

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

That was funny.

So,

what's going through your mind?

You're like, 50 to lost his damn life.

This nigga crazy.

I think you got to be a little crazy to be successful.

Right.

And that's what 50 is.

50 is really crazy.

He'll say I'm crazy, but he's crazy.

Right.

Like right now, we did a tour.

We did dates.

He flew to Australia to do Street Fighter.

I'm like, this nigga gonna go fly 23 hours to Australia.

He don't even want to take a break.

You know, like, he's crazy.

Something's really wrong with him.

Like, I'll be looking like he'll go to the gym three times a day.

You know, he's doing push-ups.

I'm doing cush-ups.

I'm rolling up.

I got Kansas.

I'm walking through Paris.

You know, I got my Kodiak.

You know,

we totally two different lifestyles.

Right.

But he's going to the gym.

three times a day getting ready for the Street Fighter film or getting ready for what he do.

And, you know, I respect it.

But everybody ain't 50 cent, man.

Right.

Dave Blunt diss 50.

You think 50 is going to respond?

Nah, man.

Sometimes I, as a matter of fact, he said he pushed him down some steps or something, right?

I think he said that, right?

He said he pushed him down some steps.

But sometimes I'll be like, 50, you on a whole nother level where you don't have to respond

to certain people or say certain things like Meach or Lil Meach or Ross or

Dave Blunt's because these guys are not doing what you're doing.

They're not going on tour.

They can't even, some of these guys can't even, let's keep it real, can't make it to these markets.

The big dogs f with Live Nation, dog.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

50, Nas,

Jay-Z,

probably Bon Jovi.

Live Nation, like these dudes ain't getting Chris Brown, Live Nation, these dudes ain't getting 200 million out deals.

400 million out deals.

It's levels, bro.

50's on a whole nother level.

And I'm not glazing, as they say.

That's what they say, glazing.

That's the glaze.

That's the term.

I ain't glazing.

It's just the truth.

It's levels.

You know, Drake.

I'm not on Drake level.

I'm not on Kendrake level.

It's cool.

Yeah.

You know, some of these dudes getting 5 million the weekend.

Scotts might get a million dollars for a walkthrough.

It's levels to this shit.

Nikki,

you know, it's levels, and it's cool.

You just realize there's levels to the shit.

You ain't mad at nobody.

Yeah.

And

there's a lot of people 50, I feel like you don't have to say nothing, but 50 is crazy.

He's been like this his whole life.

When he's on the block, oh, shit, 50's coming.

Just because I'm not on, just because you're not on someone level doesn't mean I'm not pretty damn high up.

Yeah.

Because sometimes you make, a lot of times,

the mistake that we can make, Yale, is that we measure our success by somebody else's.

Exactly.

It's just I hate when motherfuckers bump me out the way.

50-50.

I just don't like that.

Hey.

I hate that you know like I just hate that just don't bump me out the way all the time you want to 50 cool he's he's on the whole never look like I said

shit you know they come up for 50 listen all I'm saying to you is this I want to be the to leave my room

yeah for sure you know you can have the sweet Beyonce Jay-Z 50 not y'all can have the sweets yeah I don't want to leave my room I want to go to the hood and get a beef patty with cocoa bread sometimes

I want to go get some macaroni yams chicken I want to do that and I'm I'm good doing that right You know?

Would you ever get married?

Yeah.

Why not?

I think sometimes

the industry keeps you from getting married.

You just got to pick the right kind of lady.

Yeah.

See, I like my ladies from the hood.

I don't like nightlife.

I don't strippers, bartenders.

They cool.

They beautiful women.

IG.

I like.

Woman straight from the hood.

She can have a nine to five and look as good as them.

So for me, you know,

I can get married about that time soon.

It's my cut sign coming down?

Yeah,

it got to happen soon.

Nobody wants to die lonely.

Right.

Is that what you're saying?

So you only going to get married because you don't want to die alone?

You probably should have thought about that earlier.

You're right, but nobody wants to die lonely.

And I think, I think.

You don't want to die lonely or you don't want to die alone?

Because there are two different things.

You can be lonely and not be alone.

You can be alone

and not be lonely.

I never thought about that.

I don't want to die either way.

But what I'm saying is, you know what?

You know what it is?

Because when you look at everything, everything is based like on money.

Yeah.

Right?

So it's like a

got a lot of money and be like, oh shit, she gonna have half of this or half of that.

Like, what's the football player?

Just got married?

Travis Honor.

And he's getting divorced, right?

Is he?

That's what they said.

That's the rumor going around.

His wife want 40 rounds.

Man, I ain't looking, man.

If it's on the internet, I ain't believing it.

Listen.

Well, that's going around.

Now that's dumb.

You know what I'm saying?

I understand.

Safeguard your shit.

You make a certain amount of money.

Of course.

Safeguard it.

You know, but give your lady something, I guess, or whatever you want to do, but just make sure you safeguard.

I think people.

Give it that Cristiano Ronaldo package.

Right.

I think people look at marriage as a

business plan.

It is, it is.

It's a transaction between two people.

We shouldn't look at it like that, though.

Because when our parents got married, They didn't look at it like that.

Yeah, but

our parents got married.

They didn't have money like that.

Exactly.

They wasn't in the business that we're in currently.

But see, that's the thing about money.

You can have money and still not be happy.

For sure.

Absolutely.

That's the thing.

And then you can have a, come on.

Like, put it like this.

Having money and having kids when our parents, it was not even about that.

No.

That's how I look at it.

Acting.

50 got this thing going up in Shreport.

You trying to get, you trying to get, you got to.

I'm trying to get down.

50, get me a job.

I'm trying to get, yo, listen.

I'm trying to do this podcast thing.

I got cannabis deals going on.

I'm still doing shows on my own.

Right.

Like I I said, I was just in Germany.

I did my first show in the Swiss Alps.

You believe that?

Wow.

Me, I couldn't ski for shit.

I wasn't trying to ski.

Right.

Skiing is not for me.

I'm seeing little kids come down the slopes because what's the level?

I think it goes red, black.

Yeah, they got different levels that you can get on.

Man, you ever skied before?

Nope.

I never tried that shit.

I was bugging.

But, you know, five-star restaurants, living the life.

I live in the moment, man.

Like I'm living in the moment here.

I'm on Shay Shay's show.

Have you ever been starstruck?

All the time.

Who made you starstruck?

Big Daddy King, Coogee Rap,

Wesley Snipes, the Kardashians, Mike Tyson.

But my starstruck is I always keep my composure though.

Right.

I'm not, ah, not like that.

No shit like that.

But you're thinking to yourself, like, damn, I can't believe I'm not.

Yeah, because

we from New York.

So New York, they could see a rapper, see a Nas, and they might be as, yo, Nas, what up, fab, what up?

New York, we never be extra.

Yo, Joe, yo, 50, what up, yo, yo, yo, what up?

That's New York for you.

New York ain't blazing nobody.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

But for me, I'm starstruck in a silent way.

Like, but I'm going to say something to Tyson.

Like, Tyson told me to expand my horizons with the caviar.

He ain't remember I was.

You like it?

Do you like caviar?

I'm a Hollywood now.

See, that's the thing.

I could still eat a beef pattern and cocoa bread, bread, eat some caviar.

That's called gold in Dubai.

Yeah.

Some caviar pancakes.

You know, I'm expanding my horizon.

That's from Tyson.

Chappelle, my belly full.

Right.

You know, Wesley Snipes dancing in the...

I done watched New Jack City 300 times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's one of my favorites.

You know, I'm a movie guy, man.

You toured with our Nas.

Yeah.

That was an experience, too.

Really?

It was a Nash-Dominance experience.

It was me and 50 on his tour bus.

Had Jungle, all his people there.

That was crazy.

That was was a moment in life.

I met Jungle when we did Queens Bridge.

Yeah, Nas probably wouldn't remember, but for me, that shit was big.

And for me, what's crazy with Nas was he had dropped Ilmatic, and you know, he's talking about weed and blunts, but he was on the bus reading books.

So that shit was different.

I'm like, damn, this shit quiet on here.

This nigga ain't smoking that weed.

I'm an addict for sneakers.

20s of Buddha and chickens with beefers.

So I'm like, I'm thinking it's going to be big blunts burning.

Nah, this was reading books.

Huh?

Yeah, Nas was reading books, man.

So I was like, damn, this shit, this shit real.

Jungle and them, of course, they wild out.

Yeah, right, for sure.

You know, but for me, I'm like, yo, this reading books on here.

Like, really reading and like, that's how you knew he had them bars and was kind of smart because he was saying some shit.

Like, I f with Nas

you on cash.

You on tour with Cash Money and Yeah, that was our first tour ever.

Me and 50 opened up for Cash Money, Jenny?

Cash Money and Rough riders.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's when 50 had how to rob.

He was doing one record.

That's how far we came.

Wow.

That was a long time ago.

Definitely.

Do you ever look back?

You're like, damn.

You look at where you are currently and you look back where you came from.

Do you like

it?

To me, like, I was...

Like I said, I listened to Fat Joe, Jealous Ones, Envy.

So we had beef with him.

I listened to Wu-Tang, had beef with him.

Ghostface don't like me till this day, but I with Ghostface.

You know, um, we had beef with Wu-Tang.

Um,

like, I look up to DMX, like, so it's like even

with everybody, y'all beef with everybody, damn, yeah, they all friends with 50, though.

He got the money, they're not.

I remember one time, um, we was with Wu-Tang, and they was like,

I think it was Riz in them, and they was like, everybody come back there except except for, I mean, we just want 50 back there, no, yay, yo, no, nobody.

Damn.

Yeah, Wu-Tang.

I Wu-Tang though.

I came up listening to them.

You know, I remember I got banned from MTV Red Carpet.

Like, I know how the industry is.

Just 50.

My whole career, just 50, just 50.

But you're cool with that.

Yeah, I'm cool with it.

Don't bother me.

You spoke about how Bleak said that Fifth don't look out for you.

Don't look out for him.

Yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead, Say.

I don't want to cut you off.

Yeah, no.

That FIF, don't look out for you.

I said fifth.

Jay look out.

Yeah, Jay don't look out.

He'll look up for bleak like fifth look out for you.

Yeah, I don't think so.

He said it.

He said, Bleak said it.

Bleak said, Hove doesn't look out for me like fifth looks out for me.

And then he said he eats home high loud.

He eats on his own.

I eat on my own too.

Right.

On my own tour.

But now he tried to take a shot.

Yeah, because that,

and it's a cool shot because I just came off tour.

Right.

When have you seen Bleak on tour?

On his own.

Right.

If he's doing something with freeway and seagull and them like that it came to a point where 50 was helping seagull all i'm saying is when you look at a situation jay-z is not a bad guy bleak is not a bad guy no not saying it i'm saying to you that jay-z was all business with them right when bucked up on his taxes 50 a piece him off

you know i'm saying when prodigy bought a house and needed more money 50 a piece him off.

Prodigy of paying back.

You understand what I'm saying?

I've seen shit like that.

So in other words, you're saying Hove has always kept it business.

Business.

50, the thing with 50 is it was business and we was friends.

I don't feel like Bleak was Jay-Z friend.

I don't feel like Young Guns was Jay-Z's friend.

I don't feel like

Jay-Z friend.

I mean,

you probably should have

learned or known early on what type of relationship that it was.

Definitely.

So, therefore, there's no misunderstanding at a later date in time.

Yeah, so I've seen 50.

But

he shouldn't measure his friendship by what you and Fifth have.

Yeah.

But a lot of people do that.

Yeah, definitely.

Man, my boy, man, I wish my boy looked after me like that.

Or I look for my boy, my boy don't look after me like you're such a okay.

But y'all don't have the type of relationship that me and Fifth have.

Exactly.

Like, like, I've seen, been on the block with Fifth.

I don't know if Bleak was on a block.

with

Jay.

Right.

I don't know that.

And I'm not taking nothing from him.

I'm not here to blow shots or discredit him.

All I'm saying is I seen fifth piece people off when they had tax problems.

Right.

Jay did it, but he did it with little Wayne later on.

Right.

He did it with Wayne.

He helped

Savage with an immigration lawyer.

Right.

He helped DMX when DMX wanted to leave.

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That's Rock Nation, right?

That's Rock Nation.

That's hope.

We are not discrediting, but when have you seen him at that point when Young Guns and Bleak was dead and Siegel was dead?

Siegel was left in the dust.

Let's keep it real.

That's how I looked at it.

He could have gotten it.

I take your word for it.

Once he disrespects, cool, I understand.

But if he didn't disrespect and a dude is loyal there, it should be more opportunity for him.

All I'm saying is, when Fifth Have a Tour, Anger Management tour, me and Banks, everybody on tour, MOP, Mob D.

Any artists he had, he put them on the platform.

Right.

Because

I think the thing now is that a lot of people

is upset at home.

I don't know if the upset may be too strong of a word, but like he sees Dame Dash going through it right now.

Dame helped him and he see Dame struggling and he's not lending a hand out.

I just felt that at that point, Dame is taking so many shots.

Do you feel like Dame was too cocky though?

Yeah, yeah, but forget the cockiness.

Because Ty Ty and all them other niggas is eating.

All them other niggas that was over there.

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

It's Ty Tai's boy.

Maybe Dame should have been a little humble.

And I don't got nothing against Dame.

I love what Dame.

But you can't take no shots at the man and then expect the man to help you.

Yeah, of course.

You done done took shots at the man.

That's the same thing with Buck and 50 or Game and 50.

Once you take shots, I never took no shit.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

You're not finna take no shots at me and then get down on your bucket back up.

Danks never took shots at no 50.

Right.

I never took no shots at 50.

No.

We brothers, we might have a disagreement.

Right.

But what I'm saying to you is it must have not been a brotherly relationship over there.

It was more business.

And I understand hold with that because 50 didn't have to pay Buck's taxes or help him with that.

It's business.

Right.

If I make a half a million, if you make me a half a million and I spend $250, and I'll be like, shake, shake, damn, I fucked up this money.

Can you let me?

No.

And if you say no, right?

No.

Because people always remember when you say no, they never remember.

They never remember the yeses.

Right?

They don't remember.

If you say no, is you in the room?

No.

They never remember the thousand yeses, only the one no.

Right.

That's it.

Man.

Right?

Yes.

See?

So if you say no, you make me a half a million.

I spend a quarter million or maybe $300.

I'm like, yo, shit, I'm up.

I rest in my back.

And you say no, I'm mad at you now?

Nah.

That don't make no sense.

You got to handle that

on your own, brother.

What does loyalty mean?

If somebody says, yo,

what's loyalty to you?

I think

loyalty is not judging a person if they tell you something.

Like if they tell you something personal, like if you tell me something you're going through.

We listen, we don't judge.

I listen, I don't judge.

I don't go back and tell 20 people.

Thank you.

I think loyalty is never looking at a nigga watching, pocket watching.

I think loyalty is never a side out in a man's girl or his side chick or whatever you have, his wife or whatever it is.

And I think loyalty is just being real.

That's it.

If Fifth was wrong, could you tell him that he's wrong?

Fifth crazy, it's hard to tell that nigga he's wrong.

It's like dealing with a terrorist.

It's hard to tell him he's wrong, but I think you know your friends for who you are.

Like, I got this loud friend.

I got this friend that's crazy.

I got this friend that might be a troublemaker.

I don't want to hang with him because he's going to get us in trouble.

Yep.

Every time we hang with this.

I think knowing your friends for who you are.

Like, I got friends that...

I might not have talked to in a while, but I still love them.

I still got love for them.

But you know your friends for who you are.

This friend might be all about themselves.

You might have that friend.

This friend might be a troublemaker.

I got a friend like that.

Always starting trouble.

My man Thirst, like I said,

always starting trouble.

I got a friend that maybe is always a liar.

I got a friend that's crazy.

You know what I'm saying?

I think you know your friends for who they are.

Accept them for that.

Yep.

I always tell people, accept a person as they are, not how you wish them to be, and you'll be fine.

Yep.

How do you people, how do you get people to set their egos aside for the greater good?

Because I think you kind of alluded to that a little bit in the situation with Buck and some of these other guys in G-Unit is that they weren't able to set their egos aside for the greater good.

Right.

Because

in a group, there's always egos.

All right, more girls like him.

He got more money.

He's more flashy.

He's in shape.

He got better cars.

He got this.

Don't worry about that.

Don't worry about what banks getting paid.

Buck shouldn't worry about what banks getting paid.

I shouldn't worry about what game being paid.

Games sold more records than me.

If he gets paid more than me, cool, let's negotiate a price.

My price might be lower than games.

Banks sold more records than Buck or Buck sold more records than him.

We should be able to negotiate a price.

It should be a G-Unit tour without 50.

And he says that.

Like, it should be where we could sit down and be like, yo, we're going to go get this money.

Like how you see Lil Wayne

and Juvenile and everybody.

But there was some beef with that because Dirk got into a little beef and he got off the tour.

But

we all started off as friends.

Why we can't get money together?

It's all about keeping the legacy alive.

You know, with game,

our situation got sticky because of Jimmy Henchman was his management.

You know, I feel like that beef, I never had a problem with Jimmy Henchman.

That was inherited from Chris Leidy.

Chris Leighty and Jimmy Henchman never got along.

You know, that was their thing.

We messed with Chris Lightye, violated, rest in peace to him.

You know, he was a big part of 50s career, a big part of Fat Joe's career, a big part of LL career, a big part of Foxy Brown career, a big part of Diddy career.

A lot of artists and on and on.

You know, he was a pillar of hip-hop.

He worked the tunnel, one of the most dangerous clubs to work at.

You know, I should always shout out Chris Lightning because I remember being at Violator with Mona Scott.

Which is a genius.

She got love of hip-hop and all that stuff, right?

You had James Cruz there, right?

Which was a smart guy.

You had Yandy, which was smart.

You had Claudine, which worked with L.

So that was like a part of the machine.

But that beef was inherited.

And then rest in peace with my man Lodie Mac.

You know,

we went down.

They said we slapped Henchman's son.

You know, the thing that wowed me about the Henchman situation was, how you going to sue me?

and kill me?

It got to be one or the other.

You know, my life, when I write my book, listen, when I write my book, it's going to be one of the craziest books ever.

How you want to sue me and kill me?

And I could talk about this because Henchman's down for natural life for selling drugs anyway.

He was putting drugs and like stereo speakers and shit like that.

Dumb shit.

He was being watched.

Feds watch everybody in this business.

But there's no way you could sue me and want to kill me.

Slap your son?

Cool.

I understand.

You want to kill me.

Just kill me.

Or you could have took my.

I always looked at that situation.

Like, he could have,

instead of killing my man Lodi Mac, supposedly, but he got arrested for it because all his niggas told on him.

Right.

Right?

All the niggas that he had doing dirt with him, shooting the motherhouse up, his driver, it's all documented.

I ain't snitching.

I ain't telling.

It's all documented.

It's all in paperwork.

Those are the same niggas he had doing dirt, told on him, right?

But I looked at my man Lodi Mac, which, all right, we slap your son.

I understand you want to kill somebody, right?

Supposedly.

And I didn't even slap his son.

My man did, right?

Supposedly.

And

instead of, I think, killing my man Lodi Mac, I think you should have just kidnapped him, broke his legs, broke his arms, and we would have got the point.

I understand when it comes to your kid, because it's touch your kid or anybody else's kid.

I understand.

But with that situation right there, rest in peace with my man Lodi Mac, I always felt like y'all didn't have to kill him.

Y'all could could have just beat him up bad.

Break his ribs, break his lungs, break his legs.

We would have got the point.

I know I would have got the point.

Damn, niggas tortured this cool.

And drop him off.

I'm quite sure he wouldn't have said that.

But he got unalived over some rap shit.

And that's when there's a thin line between the industry and real shit.

And it's always been like that being with 50.

It's bulletproof trucks and niggas getting shot at and all kinds of shit.

Serious.

Even with the Jairu shit, like I said, if a pistol was in the room at that time, Ja Ru wouldn't even be here.

He wouldn't be here.

I would have finished him.

I'm glad there wasn't no pistol in there.

I wasn't no rapper at that point.

I was a street nigga.

So for me, nigga, that's what we live by.

And it's a sad thing.

But come in there, that's nothing but self-defense.

50, probably if 50 would have done it, or I would have did it.

No career.

And Jairu would have been out of here because the pistol was there.

And that's how easy it is.

One decision could change anybody's life.

But I'm glad that didn't happen because look how far we've been.

Yeah.

You know?

As you sit here today,

what would you tell your younger self?

Stay out of trouble.

World, stay out of trouble.

But sometimes it's not the artist, it's the entourage around you.

And it's the energy around you and people around you.

That's why you see, even with a lot of artists, like

you see, Dirk's situation, it'd be niggas around you.

You know what I mean?

You see

any artist, niggas getting in some shit, could be the niggas around you.

It's not always the artist, but you know who's going to be to blame?

If something happened and Shay Shay did, or I'm there, oh, Shay Shay was there.

That was

happening.

Niggas ain't saying what the nigga did.

Yeah.

Niggas are saying Yale did that.

So I would tell my younger self, stay out of trouble.

Damn.

You got, I think

J.

Cole.

Wasn't J.

Cole supposed to sign with G.

Yeah, J.

Cole always, shout to J.

Cole.

He always showed me love.

J.

Cole, 50 was sleeping upstairs in this mansion, and J.

Cole was downstairs in the studio.

And he was doing Simbo.

And I'm like, yo, 50 with the sign this mother.

50 was upstairs sleeping.

J.

Cole was downstairs in the studio.

And Nikki Minaj, too.

Nikki Minaj, I was on her early.

Fendi was just,

he didn't want us on it.

Like the office, we was on Nikki.

Nikki used to be in

Nikki came a long way.

She used to be in a studio called Sak Passe.

You know, my man Bundy, my man Maserati Fox, rest in peace to him.

Stack Bundles used to be in there.

It was a well-known studio.

That's on the north side.

Right.

And Nikki used to be in there and she used to go hard.

Rhyme in the mixtape.

She wasn't on.

Right.

So now you see how far she's been because she's like, come on, she's like a pillar of hip-hop.

We was on her tour too, man.

I mean, the Barb tour, that was like crazy, man.

Wow.

But, you know, that was a studio she used to be in Queens.

So I've been like a Nikki fan and been on her since because we've seen her like from level to level.

I've been to Sock Pase a couple of times, but I never did when she was there.

But people always told me she was in there with Stack.

You know, rest in peace, Stack Bundles.

He was another legend.

You know, I always said Jim Jones had the dream team with them.

He had Max B and Stack Bundles.

I felt like them motherfuckers was just

Max went to jail and Stack got killed.

Rest in peace.

Do you feel that Biggie

is a better storyteller than Cube?

Because Q responded, I think you said it.

He responded like, if asking, he would ask, is writing movies or writing for others, does that still count?

No, we're talking about writing

music.

Movies can't take nothing away from him.

But like, to me, Biggie was like an ultimate songwriter with one song.

Today's agenda.

Got the suitcase up in the center.

Bulletin 112.

Tell them Blanco center.

Feel the strangers if no money is exchanges.

Got these niggas in ranges to leave their nose brainless.

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Cause he's telling the story and you're seeing it.

Or when he talks about a story to tell, being at another guy's crib, and he's a New York nick.

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Slick Rick.

You know, storytelling is to me, every rapper ain't a storyteller.

No.

Slick Rick was a storyteller.

Yes.

Come on.

When you see me walking down the street and I start to cry, cool, come on.

Walk on by putting up.

Come on.

To me, that's like the ultimate storytelling.

Or Nas when he say,

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Or when he made the song of Being a Gun.

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You ever listen to that song?

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You do.

Think about it.

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It's like even with the kids now.

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So when you look at the Nas song, I gave you power, I made you buck wild, I made you crazy.

How you like me now?

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Right.

A motherfucker gets slapped around, be beat up.

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Everybody look up to him now.

Leave him alone, don't f with him.

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I read that Hot, you're the reason Hot Ones is a successful show.

Definitely.

You wanted the first guest, and you told them they need to change the format.

Definitely.

Shout out to Hot Ones.

I told them to change the format.

You got to eat the wings with me.

You want me to eat these wings?

You got to eat them with me.

And that actually changed the format of the show.

I think I did Hot Ones.

Did we do Hot Ones?

I was the first artist to ever be on that show.

And I changed the dynamic of the show.

They even admitted it, so shout shout out to them.

So, why'd you do it?

I don't know.

I just was like, yo, you got to eat the wings with me.

You want me to eat these hot ass wings?

You eat them with me.

And he just was like, okay.

Did you eat them all?

Nah.

This shit beat me.

I'm Haitian.

I can take some spice, but I don't know.

I don't know.

Down south,

what's the spicy?

No, no, no, no.

I ain't no spicy.

I know y'all eat spicy shit down.

Yeah, no, you're going further down.

You're going to Louisiana.

That's when they start eating the spicy, the gumbo, and all that other stuff down there.

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