LIVE from Las Vegas Part 2: Club 520 COLLAB, Devin Haney, Shawn Porter

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Speaker 18 What's up, family? I'm trying to line up against you. Line up against who? You.
You can't even beat me in your own sport. Oh, shit.
Damn.

Speaker 18 I be Gilly. I'll be.
Everybody be calling you out there.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Everybody calling you out there. I mean, Gilly wants some.
I mean, damn.

Speaker 18 I seen even an all-star game recently. Who? He was fouling? I ain't fouled nobody.
I fouled one time. He said he deed him up.
Nah, he was fouling. He fouled.
I fouled one time.

Speaker 18 They called it one. I had one.
I'll be back.

Speaker 18 We see you, boy.

Speaker 18 Oh,

Speaker 18 had a triple single.

Speaker 18 But with G-Row points.

Speaker 18 They didn't need me. I was a facilitator.
He was like Kuzma that day.

Speaker 18 Who had you beat that you just called out, though? I ain't seen no footage. You talk about me? Yeah, you.

Speaker 24 I didn't beat D-Wade.

Speaker 18 I'm talking about in his prime when we be the Heat. I beat LeBron.
I beat Russell Westbrook. I breathe Harden.

Speaker 18 Who else? I beat Carmelo.

Speaker 18 I'm talking about really playing for real. I thought you was playing 2K, my bad.
2K, what's that?

Speaker 18 That's the hooping game? Oh, man. Don't do that.

Speaker 18 I play Madden.

Speaker 18 I'm on Hen, huh? You take Hen? What up?

Speaker 18 No, you too. He's way too low.
Nigga, too little. He's too low.

Speaker 18 Ways down. He's green.

Speaker 18 He's going right about us.

Speaker 18 He's too little.

Speaker 18 He's too little. I'm 250.

Speaker 18 He got a boxer body.

Speaker 18 He got a boxer body. How much you weigh? 250.
I was in the trenches when I was playing, so what are he going to do with me? Nah, I'm going to put you right in the post on Joe. Put him in the post.

Speaker 18 You too love.

Speaker 18 You too love. This is what I'm doing.
What you talking about? Hey, I'm from the trenches. I'm talking about when I played.
I was down there with the big boys.

Speaker 18 So he's talking about

Speaker 18 putting me in the box, man. Get your last out the way.

Speaker 18 When you got hit by Ray Lewis when he tried to hit Ray Lewis and he was like, but I did that all the time. See, I said, you remember that? That was one time.
That's what he's going to do in the post.

Speaker 18 He ain't right.

Speaker 18 We can start there.

Speaker 18 Respect me down here. This fight.
Canelo Crawford.

Speaker 18 Bud is the first guy, first male boxer in the Full Beth era to be a two-time undisputed champ. We got Canelo.
He's dominated the 168, the super middleweight. And this is what we have.

Speaker 18 We got two champions.

Speaker 18 We got two champions. There ain't no, man, he okay.
He so, so, so, what's up? No, we got two champions that's fighting. Sir.
When you look at Bud, and Bud, this is the ultimate challenge for me. Yeah.

Speaker 18 He's going up three-weight lesson, which that don't normally happen over time. Yeah.
I mean, we see Pacquiao started at 112 and all of a sudden he goes all the way up.

Speaker 18 But that's over a period of 15 years. Man, Bud's going three-weight last in a year and a half.

Speaker 18 It's tough. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Bud with the knockout, man. With all that being said.

Speaker 18 Hold on, man.

Speaker 18 Hold on. I would love to hear this.
As much as I love the sport of boxing and love the sweet science, science, I would love to hear how the knockout happens.

Speaker 18 There has to be a storyline. It has to be a story to it.
It's just not going to happen. He's going to catch him slipping.

Speaker 18 Sweet chin.

Speaker 18 He's going down eighth round, knockout. We back to.

Speaker 18 And I think why he said eighth round is because, as we know, if you watch boxing and understand boxing, by the time Canelo hits the seventh round,

Speaker 18 he's deteriorating. He's coaching.

Speaker 18 And he's tired.

Speaker 18 So you got Crawford in his foot? Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm going with Bud regardless. He might get tired at that weight, though.
That's the only downside.

Speaker 24 For Crawford, yeah, because he's not used to fighting it.

Speaker 18 That's the thing. I think the thing is that when you look at somebody that put on that kind of weight, I don't think he put on that kind of weight, he just didn't have to strip all the way down.

Speaker 18 Because Bud is stripping down, so basically, he's saving 21 pounds.

Speaker 18 So, because normally he'd have to go down to 147, now he's only going down to 168, and he's coming down, let's just say for the sake of argument, he's coming down from 185.

Speaker 18 But 185 to 168 versus 185 to 147.

Speaker 18 So he,

Speaker 18 but at the end of the day, the mental fatigue, because you got to stay sharp. Canelo ain't to be played with now.
That's a fact.

Speaker 18 You can say what you want to say, but he ducked Benavidez and he ain't want this one. He ain't want that one.
He did dump Benavidez. Okay, he dunked Benavidez.

Speaker 18 But that boy folk,

Speaker 18 but he fought Triple G. He did.

Speaker 18 I respect that.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 Triple G hit him with some shots that a rock and sock and robot would have knocked his head off.

Speaker 18 We all had rock and sock and robots.

Speaker 18 and Triple G hit him. Yeah, ain't do nothing.
That's the thing.

Speaker 18 Can Bud

Speaker 18 Can Bud put fear? Like, I can't just walk up in there. Nah.
Because

Speaker 18 if he can walk through Bud punches, it's gonna be a long night.

Speaker 18 And you gotta

Speaker 18 do it. For Bud, you gotta box smart.
Obviously, you can't fight.

Speaker 18 This is not a person that you fight. It ain't about ego.
It's about being smart. It's about boxing,

Speaker 18 being sharp, similar to to how when he fought Floyd Mayweather. You're not gonna sit there in the pocket and engage with goddamn Canelo.
You can get yourself hurt.

Speaker 18 You're not gonna do that. He got to get his respect early.
Yeah, but it has to hit him with something to get his respect. Be like, okay, I can't just walk through him.
He got some power behind that.

Speaker 18 That's what Floyd. People look at Floyd.
People like, man, look at Lil Floyd. How many of the teams you people try to smuggle Floyd? That's a fact.
Because when it comes to

Speaker 18 that little Roscoe,

Speaker 18 but

Speaker 18 was that Mike Tyson? No,

Speaker 18 he's gonna have

Speaker 18 that Mike

Speaker 18 But here's the thing

Speaker 18 about it How many how many of all the guys you fought and everybody say this is how you should fight Floyd, how many you see him walk through the punches? No, no, no

Speaker 18 Who's your box

Speaker 18 like mine like is it like Canelo Carl? No, I'm like Emmanuel Augustus. Okay.
The drunken master. Yeah.
Respect. That's me.

Speaker 18 Yeah, that's me all day.

Speaker 18 When your next match, we're trying to get you on that football.

Speaker 18 I'm trying to beat the fuck out of Andre Ward. And he ducked me.

Speaker 18 You know, Andre Ward.

Speaker 18 I got a lot left in the tank. I got a lot left in my tank.
What he like 40, 39, 40?

Speaker 18 Yeah. And he left the game with a lot on the table.
All right. And no, I know.
Now I want some of them scraps.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 we're going to put him on the t-shirt. What you mean? Put him on the t-shirt.

Speaker 18 Oh, I mean, obviously, if you're going to put me on the t-shirt, it's going to be like Victorious winner, Lexi. I didn't know Ocho could fight like that.
Boy, that break a hand.

Speaker 18 We got this MMA fight first with him and Debo. I'm gonna beat it.
I'm gonna beat his ass.

Speaker 18 Got first. Got first, man.

Speaker 18 I love you, Chad, man.

Speaker 18 Hey, come on, man. The one thing we had, we, this is this is our problem.

Speaker 18 We always look at size, we look at people that are massive, and we automatically think, oh, my goodness, who would want to do that? Hey, he has a punchable face.

Speaker 18 So, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna punch it. That's it.
And we're doing MMA. He's so big, he can't even move.
30 seconds in, he's gonna be tired. That's true.
He's gonna be tired. 30 seconds in.

Speaker 18 He's gonna be running the fight. No, he's gonna be running.

Speaker 18 This is what what I do.

Speaker 18 For Nightcast.

Speaker 18 We're going to be missing some weeds.

Speaker 18 Hey, you know what? Y'all remind me of my teachers in high school. They had no, they didn't believe in me at all.

Speaker 18 You ain't going to be nothing.

Speaker 18 Now here, rapper.

Speaker 18 This is crazy.

Speaker 18 That's what y'all remind me of. With respect.
So I'm going to have to prove myself. So when is that lined up? February.
So. So, oh, okay.
Yeah. Yeah, and

Speaker 18 that's right around the corner. Make sure y'all there.
I'll be there for that. Oh, we got there.
I'll be be there for that. For sure.
You've been training. Oh, yeah.
I'll be. That's cool.

Speaker 18 You look good. You look good, man.

Speaker 18 You look good.

Speaker 18 Everybody got a plan.

Speaker 18 Tell us about 520. Yes, sir.
Obviously, it's 520 amongst a bunch of friends. How did you guys come up with the concept? Whose idea was this to say, hey, man, I think we ought to do something digital.

Speaker 18 I mean, we boys, we love the game of basketball, we love sports. Let's sit around and chop it up.
Just like we would do. We go over to each other's house and we talk sports.
We talk hoops.

Speaker 18 Who idea was to put this thing together? Well, they had a podcast before. I was still playing.
I went on their podcast. Okay.
And it was fun. We was chopping it up.

Speaker 18 When I got done playing, I was like, I want to be a part of that.

Speaker 18 And I had a club in my basement. My address was 520.
And that's kind of how it happened. We were just at the club chilling, talking, like we're doing now.

Speaker 18 And we was like, man, this could be a podcast. This could be fun.
But we started off. We didn't talk about sports at all.
At all.

Speaker 18 It was dark. It was everything else.

Speaker 18 Everything else but sports. Nah, thanks for sports.
Because DJ really the wizard wizard behind everything. He's the real media guy.
He got everything cracking.

Speaker 18 He had a show called That's an Opinion Media. Brought me on.
And then, like Bro said, when he got done, he came on. And then once he got done, we just brought it together.

Speaker 18 We already had the chemistry. We didn't know it was going to turn into what it is, but it is what it is.
That's dope. That's live.

Speaker 18 You know, in order to be great at something, Jeff, you know, when you play sports, you got to put time in it. And people think you just get a microphone, you get a camera, you just start talking.

Speaker 18 And people become resentful because, you know, Andrew Schultz told me something. He said, The easier it is to make money, the more envious people will become of you.

Speaker 18 Because everybody thinks they get a microphone, the camera, and just start talking.

Speaker 18 As soon as they see you have success, they become resentful of it, but they don't understand what you put in in order to become successful at what you do.

Speaker 18 Have you guys run into that? Man, man, they ain't all there. I don't know how they get all them guys to come on.
They show me Jeff T,

Speaker 18 he wasn't like that.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I got that a lot.

Speaker 18 I got that a lot.

Speaker 18 Nah, but we just try to be ourselves for the most part. But we get that, you know, man, it's so easy to do what y'all do.

Speaker 18 But I tell them, it's kind of hard to recreate what we do because we all real friends. We all name y'all.
And we just talk.

Speaker 18 And everybody, like, we can do that with my friends, but I'm like, y'all don't have a.

Speaker 18 Y'all don't have a B him, bro. I tell everybody, you don't have a DJ.
These two dudes, they make the show.

Speaker 18 My name probably got people to watch at first, but they keep them there. And them two dudes, man, they crazy.
I just tell people, go ahead, man. Man, you know, I was thinking about starting.

Speaker 18 I said, go ahead. Yeah, facts.

Speaker 18 Well, how do you do it? You said you were going to start a podcast. You ain't asked me how.
Now you want me to give you the secret songs.

Speaker 18 Get a camera, get a microphone. What you want to do? You want to tape it or you want to do it live? Because you're going to need editors.
You're going to need graphics.

Speaker 18 You're going to need social media. It's a lot more, like I said, it's a lot more complicated than what you think.
And people just like, man, that's easy. No, it's not.

Speaker 18 Now, the hardest part people have, though, like you said, of course, you got to find the editors and all that. But the biggest thing is, like, if you got a team, y'all schedules,

Speaker 18 and then having enough stuff to talk about, and then just being consistent. Correct.
Yeah, that's the biggest thing for real, bro. But that's the thing because you, man,

Speaker 18 I can't do that. It's like when you start a workout party, man, we ought to work out together, okay?

Speaker 18 Hey, man, what's up, man? I'm running 10 minutes late today.

Speaker 18 Man, man, I ain't gonna be able to make it today, man. I'll catch you.

Speaker 18 I'll say, you know what? I'm be by myself. That's right.
You talking shit. No, no, no, no.
Now, he's trying to point at me like,

Speaker 18 that's how you be doing.

Speaker 18 Let's see. Because he was trying to have a serious talk with a podcast.

Speaker 18 But you're absolutely right, Henry, is that the biggest thing is consistency. Now,

Speaker 18 rewards consistency.

Speaker 18 And it's hard to get people. People don't understand pro.
This is a real job.

Speaker 18 You don't get to call your boss and say, well, I'm going to take off the date.

Speaker 18 That date, you don't know if you call people, it's like, hey, I'm running late, or you can't just not show up. Yeah,

Speaker 18 and I think the biggest thing is the hardest thing to recreate is chemistry. Either you have it or you don't survive,

Speaker 18 you can't fake it, too. Nope, you can't fake it, you can't, but it exposes itself over time.
It will. Either you have that, either you have that personal relationship.

Speaker 18 And people think, well, man, that's just a class that you take in high school. No, it's not.

Speaker 18 No, it's not. You either have that or you don't.
You have to understand how to play off of each other.

Speaker 18 And the thing is, people like, I said, nah. I said, I had interviewed Ocho for Club Shayshay once, and that was it.

Speaker 18 When I started it, I called his agent, used to work with my agent. He was in his office.
I said, man, man, hey,

Speaker 18 man,

Speaker 18 where's Ocho, man? I said, I want to run something about Ocho. He said, man, that's funny.
Ocho in town. I said, really? I said, man, can y'all meet for dinner tomorrow? I mean, for lunch.

Speaker 18 He's like, yeah. So this was a Wednesday.
I called him on a Wednesday. Bojo and I had lunch on Thursday.
I said, man, I'm thinking about doing this podcast. You know,

Speaker 18 I'm not with

Speaker 18 Foxy anymore. And I said, I was thinking about doing this.
We're going to go around, you know, after we're going to go night after the game.

Speaker 18 So Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night, we're going to go after the game. Probably like 20, 30 minutes.
He's like,

Speaker 18 I'm good. He said, you want, you said, hey, you said, let's do it.
I said, all right.

Speaker 18 So that Thursday, didn't have any idea.

Speaker 24 Got a camera.

Speaker 18 It didn't do no test or anything. Hey, we lied.
This is what it is.

Speaker 18 So we end up going like 30 minutes. Like, what you think? Man, I like this.
He said, all right.

Speaker 18 And the rest is, as they say, history. I mean, and people just, you know, us telling stories, him telling stories, him wanting to fight everybody, wanting to walk to everybody, want to play everybody.

Speaker 18 I can't wait. I say what he was late, though.
You got on his ass.

Speaker 18 You talking about motherfucking being late. Motherfucker, you was late.

Speaker 18 See the camera, boy.

Speaker 18 This man was, hello.

Speaker 18 He called somebody to pick him up from the airport. But I always do that.

Speaker 18 The guy picked him up from the airport.

Speaker 18 He locks his key in the car.

Speaker 18 It's just Ocho saying, man, I really appreciate you, man, being there, but I got to say, Ocho sit there and wait with the man, waiting for the truck to go.

Speaker 18 He took the time out to come pick me up. So I just wanted to be, you know, respectful.
I said, what? What about this?

Speaker 18 So he wants to be respectful to the guy, but don't want to be respectful to his own.

Speaker 18 So I was like,

Speaker 18 Ocho is one of these guys.

Speaker 18 He'll be right if you and him. But publicly, man, I'm going to do my thing.

Speaker 18 I'm going to do my thing. Okay, Ocho, go ahead.
You're right, boss. You're right, though.

Speaker 18 But the chemistry that you guys have, the stories that, you know, Jeff, that you're able to tell. People want to hear what it was like when you was in the NBA.
For sure.

Speaker 18 People want to hear what it's like with Ocho and I played in the movie. People want to hear that, those stories.
And that's what, you know,

Speaker 18 I don't diminish anybody that didn't play a professional sport. Because if you cover the game long enough, it's hard for you not to know something.
Maybe they don't know what you know. Right.

Speaker 18 From a pin down to a flare to the dunker spot and all that, but they know something. You hooped.

Speaker 18 This before I had two repairs.

Speaker 18 You don't escalate people.

Speaker 18 I'm a fucking escalator.

Speaker 18 You ain't got a real boy in here.

Speaker 18 I respect.

Speaker 18 I'm an escalator off the court, huh?

Speaker 18 That's all you got to eat. That's all you get it in.

Speaker 18 I'm trying to. He's a hoop.
That's why I said you green. Hold on, who's green?

Speaker 18 It's a court down the street. We can go.

Speaker 18 You got the camera? Yeah,

Speaker 18 we have a 520 versus goddamn nightcap today, right after this. What you trying to do?

Speaker 18 I'm aware these.

Speaker 18 I got a full roster. I'm aware these.
They hooping Black Forces. Yeah, man.
You got who? Yeah, I'm aware these. Jordan, you can hoop?

Speaker 18 Oh, we got three on three. What y'all trying to do? That's a show right there in itself.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 No, no, no, no, no, no. We need to hoop.

Speaker 18 Hey, Jordan. Hey, we're going to put you with two children.

Speaker 18 We're gonna put you down in the box. You on here.
I got you.

Speaker 18 That's you.

Speaker 18 You got yeah. Man, man, we're gonna wash y'all.
You got teeth? Huh? You got teeth? Man, lock that nigga ass up, man. So I'm going for 30, that guy.
So we good.

Speaker 18 He must be talking about 2K.

Speaker 18 Nah, I'm talking about mad.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 what's been the

Speaker 18 most fun part about what you guys do? Is it just friends being together and doing something together that you probably never thought that would happen is it going to different places

Speaker 18 is it the people that you get an opportunity for me club shay shay man i ain't never think i'd be sitting down with no magic jobs and i didn't think i'd be sitting down with you know with john cena and all these guys and that's what's been the most fun part of it

Speaker 18 man i would say for today man we just met two people we grew up on we met triple h we met the undertaker at no point of our lives do we think we was gonna sit down and let alone do a podcast with them so the people you come across and especially to see people how they are that's real refreshing to me i think that's the dope part Yeah, after.

Speaker 18 Yeah, nah, I'm just feeling the same way about him. Like, even being on here with you guys, like, we ain't think we'd be sitting down with you.
Chad, Ocho. We watch our show at night.
We laugh.

Speaker 18 We joke with y'all. We feel like y'all are cousins, our distant cousins, or whatever.
And we grew up like watching y'all for real. Come on, boy.
Everybody had the 85 girls. That was staple.

Speaker 18 Come on, man. Yeah, he had nose on the field.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 You had all that. So we was fans of your game.
And then when I realized I could lock you up, I'm like, he got good feet, but like, I can guard him.

Speaker 18 Yeah, that's why I said he was cool.

Speaker 18 You know what I do enjoy? I enjoy false confidence. Because that's what he has.
He has false confidence.

Speaker 18 You both got that. Hold on, listen.
No, not both. Not both.
I have the greatest feet of all time. Notice he mentioned my feet.
Yeah, you got a good feet.

Speaker 18 I have the greatest feet of all time, regardless of sport. Oh.
Yeah. Now,

Speaker 18 would you agree that his feet is some of the best you've ever seen from an NFL player?

Speaker 18 I don't understand why you even think you could take me on the court. Oh, yeah, on a post, it's just this big.
On a post? it's too small, man.

Speaker 18 He's trying to give you some love. Go ahead.

Speaker 18 See, the thing is, he understands that his feet needed to be like that because of his slight frame. He wasn't built like the Megatron.
Megatron 6'4240.

Speaker 18 He wasn't built like Julio. Julio 6'3225.
G.O., those big, Brandon Marshall, those big physical receivers that want to play the contact.

Speaker 18 They want you to put your hands on them because now I can put you close enough, I can put my hands on you and throw you out the way.

Speaker 18 Ocho understood from a very young age, he's like, I can't play like that.

Speaker 18 So I gotta be in a situation where I can't let you touch me.

Speaker 18 I have good.

Speaker 18 But when your feet just as good as his, like, what that means?

Speaker 18 Because my feet, my feet like that. Your feet like what? That's what he was leading to.
That's what I was leading to. Is that what you was talking about? Yeah, that's what it was leading to.

Speaker 18 So you saying your feet like mine? Yeah. I ain't never seen it.

Speaker 18 Prespect.

Speaker 18 Prespect. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 That body be out. What you talking about?

Speaker 18 We doing some extra stuff. You know, we go.
Camera? Yeah. I'm telling you, 520 versus nightcap.
One-on-one. Y'all going to post it, right?

Speaker 18 What you mean? We're going to be live. Like,

Speaker 18 we want free.

Speaker 18 No editing, no nothing.

Speaker 18 So the work you get, everybody can see the world financially. You still train?

Speaker 18 Yeah, I'm 220. Look, just what he talked about.
I know you look. I'm saying you still train.
I know you be working on some of the players. Yeah, yeah, I'm about 220.

Speaker 18 And are you still eating McDonald's every day? Yeah, I mean, look at, look, y'all see this body? Look at these legs, bro. That was amazing, though, bro.

Speaker 18 We talking crazy, but like, the fact that you used to get up every day and order McDonald's, like, and he eats, he'd be on me about eating.

Speaker 18 For real? Yeah, yeah. But he don't eat nothing.
He likes

Speaker 18 nutrition. You eat healthy? Not really.

Speaker 18 Kind of sweet. Oh, no.
You know what I'm saying? For you to even have that type of career,

Speaker 18 you like got to be the only athlete to ever have a career. I'm the only person.
You think about what you ate as a little kid.

Speaker 18 Based on where I'm from, based on circumstances and my surroundings and upbringings, I ate a certain certain weight. Right when I made it, I kept eating that same weight.

Speaker 18 I didn't have any injuries when I was little, and I didn't have none when I got to the league. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know how you just already

Speaker 18 get to the NFL, you get to whatever your dream is, whatever your childhood dream may be, and you make it to a profession, then all of a sudden, all these experts come out the goddamn blue and change it would always work for you.

Speaker 18 I just chose not to

Speaker 18 conform. No, you done,

Speaker 18 we didn't know any better.

Speaker 18 We ate what was available.

Speaker 18 I knew I was gonna be eating better the rest of my life.

Speaker 18 As soon as I got some money, man, you changed, you damn right.

Speaker 18 But I tried to change before I had money. I'm El Roy.

Speaker 18 When you got your money, it wasn't going to change.

Speaker 18 I got my chicken. I was gone.

Speaker 18 You going to the fight? Yeah, 1000%.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Damn. Historic event.
Who you got? Who you got? My heart says Bud, but my mind says Canelo.

Speaker 18 I got Canelo. Serious? Yeah, I want Bud to win, but if I was a bet, man, I'm betting with Canelo.
Being realistic. Yeah.
And you're going Bud, y'all. Bud, knockout, eighth round.

Speaker 18 I got Bud, too. What's the odds?

Speaker 18 What is paying?

Speaker 18 Plus $800 for the knockout. So I don't know.
It's a decision. I don't know what that is.
Looking like Christmas.

Speaker 18 Plus 800? Plus 800.

Speaker 18 That's a lot. Shit.
That's a lot.

Speaker 18 You cash in on that. It's going to change some lives.
Yeah. Yeah.
Especially if you put down some real, some real paper. Yeah, you put about 10 bands down on that.
Shit.

Speaker 18 You're gonna crack that down.

Speaker 18 We're gonna pull our money together, get a little something.

Speaker 18 Hey, last time we was in the middle of the morning.

Speaker 18 You probably get like, nah, you gotta watch this, man.

Speaker 18 You gotta watch him. Yeah, they'll bump it.

Speaker 18 We pull out our money together. We might do a little something.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 18 I gotta quit a little 250.

Speaker 18 Gotta lose 250. I got 300.
I got something on it. I got 300.
Like a little 550.

Speaker 18 You got a stat. I'll cover the rest.

Speaker 18 Leave it in me and God's hands.

Speaker 18 Something wrong with that dude, man.

Speaker 18 Who's some guys that you would love to have? I mean, you have a lot of sports figures, but do you think about getting outside of that? You think about getting, say, like some celebs, some other.

Speaker 18 Who would you like to have on 520? But y'all early in the morning, though, man. Yeah, but.
It's hard to get somebody early in the morning. It's hard to get somebody.
We got our nice show club 520.

Speaker 18 We would love to have Adam Sandler. That's like one of my favorite people in the world.

Speaker 18 I want to hoop with Adam Sandler. That's like.

Speaker 18 How that man be hooping with the eyes of shirt? Man, I don't know, but

Speaker 18 that's what it is. It's definitely Eyes Os.
Trader Jones fits for sure.

Speaker 18 Yeah. Damn, man.

Speaker 18 He might be able to take you. Cool.
I watched your highlights, bro. No, no, they don't try to.

Speaker 18 You and Costa Not highlight some very short. Don't, don't, don't try.

Speaker 18 Jack was an LBS.

Speaker 18 So that's crazy. Yeah,

Speaker 18 he's terrible. He's trying to deflect.
That's what he trying to deflect. What I'm deflecting.

Speaker 18 Smoking mirrors. 520 versus nightcap.
I ain't trying to hit nothing about nothing else. All right, then we're going to put it on the bottom.
We really want Joe Johnson, though.

Speaker 18 Wait, hold on. Who's going to cover Joe? No, I'm talking about on the show.
When he asked him, you know, who else do we want on the show? Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe.
Oh, yeah. Joey.

Speaker 18 We've been looking for Joe.

Speaker 18 Man, the chat told us that, man, Joe done spoke more on Nightcap than Joe spoke in his whole career.

Speaker 18 That's the career. I was Joe's teammate for people like, man, I ain't even know Joe could talk.
I'm like, well, hell, I ain't never heard him talk either, so he can't go to the show.

Speaker 18 He's been your teammate for what, four years? Yeah. I never heard him talk that much.

Speaker 18 At all, bro. At all.
Really? At all. I used to go to his house every other day.
He would leave you in his house and go to his room. He'd be like, Joe, I'm here for you, brother.

Speaker 18 Joe,

Speaker 18 but you could tell by his personality that he he really a quiet brother.

Speaker 18 He really just like, and that's what I said, like, okay, you know, Joe's going to, you know, join us because we thought he was going to come on for one. He's like, man, I like this.

Speaker 18 You don't talk. I didn't talk.
Yeah, but hey. Now that's good, y'all getting people to, you know, see his actual personality.

Speaker 18 He got Joe on y'all team.

Speaker 18 Oh, you ain't running from Joe. Huh? I ain't nobody running from Joe.
No, man, this is open. Come on.
Nah, nah, nah, nah. We good.
We good.

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Speaker 18 Now, back in high school, that teague, I was not

Speaker 18 well. Give me a style line.
I need a style line. I'll tell you like this here.
Me and Purvis Ellison was on the same

Speaker 18 area team in the area of players. Yeah.

Speaker 18 He was a starter. I was a starter.
That's all I was gonna say. I was a star.

Speaker 18 He was early.

Speaker 18 Okay. I was

Speaker 18 He was all-American, actually. I averaged 30 by CE.

Speaker 18 You hooked too? Okay.

Speaker 18 He ready?

Speaker 18 Oh, so what you average in high school? Oh, high school. Oh, I was 32, 12, and 10.

Speaker 18 Huh? You didn't even think about it.

Speaker 18 Because I remember. I remember back then.
I had to do everything.

Speaker 18 See, when you watched the big three, Hesse said, I need to make sure I score everything. So,

Speaker 18 what's his name? Don't win the MVP. So, damn.

Speaker 18 No, so Gilly don't win the MVP. I said, all right, well, shit, I'm going to rebound.
I'm going to get it right to you.

Speaker 18 So, that's why I really went out there trying to go to the bucket and do, you know. No, but

Speaker 18 I respect that.

Speaker 18 I got a career high of 52. Damn.
Damn, damn.

Speaker 18 What year was that?

Speaker 18 85? 16.

Speaker 18 All in the paint. No, you got to realize the three-pointer wasn't in until 80.
The three-pointer didn't come in until 86. I was gone.

Speaker 18 If I'd had the three,

Speaker 18 Damn, I didn't have a three-point line.

Speaker 18 In high school, it didn't come in until 86. 52 on RB.
Damn, NBA, they had it.

Speaker 18 The NBA, they got it in 70 labs. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Damn, so how would you score?

Speaker 18 Sold your game like

Speaker 18 Charles Barker. Yeah, baby.

Speaker 18 I could shoot. I could shoot.
Yeah. But

Speaker 18 I'm going through your chest. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if I fired out, I got like four with charges.

Speaker 18 Four with charges. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 18 52, hey, you started.

Speaker 18 52, 37, 35, 31, 31, 19.

Speaker 18 All-American parade though, 197.

Speaker 18 I was all-American, too. I should have been.
In basketball? Yeah, I was all-American. What sport you do?

Speaker 18 I'm the best in soccer. You know, soccer is my love.

Speaker 18 That's my number sport. But in high school, I ain't even play in the fourth quarter.
I was coming out of the game and allowing everyone else on the bench to play.

Speaker 18 And I was still avering 32, 12, and 10.

Speaker 18 I love it. Hey, listen.
I really did. I love it.

Speaker 18 I really get it, too. I'm going to tell you my play style.
Everybody else, but who you played like when you was in high school? I said I was like a mixture of John Morant and Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 18 Y'all really knew him all.

Speaker 18 You said it was explosive like John and Russ. I could believe it was that explosive.
Yeah, I'm explosive. I'm just saying.
And then when, you know, I was a three-level scorer in high school.

Speaker 18 You get me sometimes if I got to back it down in the public to do that, I had a nice little midi like Shay. I was something like that.
And I'm not saying I was Steph, but I was Steph-like.

Speaker 18 Well, who did you grow up watching? Because you didn't grow up watching.

Speaker 18 Who did you grow up watching? You talking about John Boran. He haven't thought of it.
I know. I was watching my daddy.
Okay. My daddy.

Speaker 18 My daddy had prison footage, you know, in prison. My daddy was averaging 42.

Speaker 18 Them boys know who break the room. You were in prison.
You cold.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah. 42 in prison.

Speaker 18 You know how you know.

Speaker 18 42 in prison. You probably averaged 35 in

Speaker 18 real life. Yeah, ain't no dog.
But I can say, I gave up. I didn't basketball.
If my brother had to play basketball, I really, really would have tried to stick with basketball.

Speaker 18 But he wasn't the basketball player that I was. He was better at football.

Speaker 18 I went to college. I said, man, damn, damn this basketball.
I gave up everything. Basketball, track.
All I did was focus on football.

Speaker 18 Made the right decision for sure.

Speaker 18 For sure. It paid off.
I wanted to be big. I had started lifting weights and my body had started to change.
And I was like, man,

Speaker 18 who?

Speaker 18 Yeah. Y'all remember Lorenzo Charles? Y'all remember when he dunked the ball in 83 to beat Houston? Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what you gonna shoot?

Speaker 18 Nah, for sure. You played no basketball.
You ain't got two stamps. I mean, he really, he should have been a defensive line.
He should have just went like Julius Peppers.

Speaker 18 That's what he should have done. Jude looked crazy in the football.
I mean, a basketball uniform, bro. He was too strong, bro.
He do, he do.

Speaker 18 And just think, Pep. Pep literally started at UMC.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Who's gonna go through that? So you think he's 285. You think he's the greatest basketball player? I mean, football player that played basketball? What about

Speaker 18 Antonio Gates? Antonio Game Game.

Speaker 18 But he played at North Carolina, though. Yeah.
Okay, yeah. But Gates took a team to the Elite Eight.
Yeah, that's a fat. He was killing too.

Speaker 18 He was 28. He was killing too.
He was like them.

Speaker 18 He was legit. He was a legit basketball player.
Don't forget Jimmy Graham, too. I played against him in college.
He grabbed him.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he was just fouled a lot.

Speaker 18 I played him in college when he was at Miami. He was just fouled.

Speaker 18 Who nice down in the NFL? Probably T. Higgins, though.
Tiger Hoop. Raw.
T. Nice.
T. Nice Hoop.
Poor old boy from the Bills.

Speaker 18 Keanu. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he co-founded.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he cold for him. What about DK? No.
He can't make that.

Speaker 18 He's too strong. DK just dunking.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Digo dunk or you get it.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he's a hell of a friend.

Speaker 18 We used to have,

Speaker 18 before you got the Ocho, teams used to have guys that play basketball, and they would go around and play the fire department. They play, you know, the police department.
Oh, yeah,

Speaker 18 they would play other teams. Like, guys would play the Raiders.

Speaker 18 They would go around.

Speaker 18 Ricky Dudley had a nice little game, but he was 6'6.

Speaker 18 I mean, guys that played, you know, they were just in the league on their rookie year. They've been playing all the time.

Speaker 18 It's a different skill set. I I mean, we lift too much.

Speaker 18 So you shoot a basketball, man.

Speaker 18 By the time I started lifting,

Speaker 18 I'm like, ooh, I need to back up off these weights. I got too much shoulders.
I got too much track to try to shoot.

Speaker 18 Did y'all ever answer that question, though, about like what's the easier to transition from basketball to football or football to basketball?

Speaker 18 It's easier to transition a basketball player playing football than a football player playing basketball. Because

Speaker 18 basketball is a more skill. Yeah.
It's a more skill. Yeah.
No, no, there ain't no question about that. Okay.
But

Speaker 18 it's like

Speaker 18 they would see what they were, the argument that I was having, they were talking about, oh, he could go play football right now.

Speaker 24 No, he can't. Shit me.

Speaker 18 No, he can't.

Speaker 18 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, he cannot go.
Nobody go out in the UA play basketball in 10 years to, oh, he can go make a team.

Speaker 18 Do what? What are he going to play? Go out there with a receive if you want to. Okay.

Speaker 18 I think it's different, though. I mean, y'all are professionals, y'all know, but I think if if you ain't played football and you hooped in college, I think you can just transfer and go to the NFL.

Speaker 18 No, you got to have a background. See, Antonio Gates played football in high school.
He did play in college, but he had a background. He had a foundation.
But not to know

Speaker 18 I get like Graymond. Y'all saw Graymond.
I did.

Speaker 18 It's different.

Speaker 18 You heard it down.

Speaker 18 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 18 You got to have a foundation.

Speaker 18 He looked crazy.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 he didn't understand how to get open. He didn't understand how to move.
Gates understood it because, like I said, he hadn't played since he was in college, but he played all throughout junior high.

Speaker 18 He played all throughout high school.

Speaker 18 Pemp just continued.

Speaker 18 And Pemp just like,

Speaker 18 yeah, I'm going to be the number two pick in the draft. I'm going to go and get this basketball.
I'm going to get the basketball thing going. Bye, I could be pretty good.
But

Speaker 18 you're not going to find a guy like Pepper. You're talking about a guy that's 6'7, 285, could run 4'5,

Speaker 18 got a 40-inch vertical. Jesus.
Different, different.

Speaker 18 Real athlete.

Speaker 18 That's crazy. I know it was hard for you, though, Chad, to choose between basketball and football.
What made you choose? Nah, it was hard for me to choose between football and soccer.

Speaker 18 Oh, football and soccer. I don't really care nothing about basketball.
I just happen to be able to play it because God gifted me with a certain ability that don't many have. There it is.
But

Speaker 18 is always my love. Always been my number one love, and I still play it

Speaker 18 to this day. I play with a Jamaican squad in Miami on the weekends, and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 18 But I look forward to being y'all last, though.

Speaker 18 When I left the football field, all my other sports other than CrossFit and in the gym, it was over for me. I ain't picked up a basketball.
I ain't picked up a football.

Speaker 18 You need to start training because we're going to play them boards. And we don't want no excuse at all.

Speaker 18 We got to go in the gym. I don't got two muscles.
Nah, yeah. That's why we got you down and we got you down in the post.

Speaker 18 Your ain't going up.

Speaker 18 You scared. I'm built like a wrestler.

Speaker 18 Well, how you gonna cover me and I'm built the same way? No, you're not. I just got your jacket on.
No, you're not. My son about your size.

Speaker 18 So, how much time have y'all got? Y'all done for today? Or

Speaker 18 y'all are getting started later? Yeah, we got one more show, I think, at the same time.

Speaker 18 So, so, so, y'all, uh, 5:20, club 5:20, and then 520 in the a.m. 520 a.m.
is live, right? Yes, sir. And then y'all take the club 520.

Speaker 18 9.30 every day, Monday through Thursday. Well, Monday through Thursday.
So Monday through Thursday is 520 a.m.

Speaker 18 So then you take,

Speaker 18 how many shows are Club 520 you take? We drop on Monday, so two on Mondays and Thursdays.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 y'all got stuff in the can?

Speaker 18 So how, so how, how, so how

Speaker 18 far out? So you try to store up, so you try to get like five, six shows in the can?

Speaker 18 No, we,

Speaker 18 do. We drop the heaters.
Yeah, we drop them immediately.

Speaker 18 We would love to grab some and sit on them for sure, but no, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, like, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument.

Speaker 18 Y'all went out.

Speaker 18 Y'all got this interview. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Do y'all try to get another interview before you guys drop it, or you just get the interview and say, okay, we gonna drop it? Oh, no, we got that fire. Bombs away, man.

Speaker 18 Because we didn't want our show to be based off of interviews.

Speaker 18 We wanted it to be based off of us. So we wanted to have a show that we can do our thing with.
Like people will still tune on to us. So when we do get an interview, it's just like a plus to us.

Speaker 18 Oh, okay.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 18 For sure. So what would you say? What would you tell the audience? What's the difference between 520 a.m.
and club 520?

Speaker 18 Well, sports is 5.20 a.m. Okay.
He's going to give a full breakdown. DJ, you know, I'm the relief, of course, but that's really more focused on sports.
Okay. Club 520 is all the foolishness.
Yes.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we're going to make a joke. It ain't never no hard feelings.
No, we're just joking.

Speaker 18 Just having God talk, keeping it clean. Man,

Speaker 18 y'all be on a

Speaker 18 MPJ. Y'all be on that man hard.
Oh, man.

Speaker 18 See, Club 520 got to meet 520 a.m. Sometimes.
See, MPJ be on Club 520. He won't be on 520 no more.
You got to have a real conversation with my boy. Man, he's crazy, man.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he be giving up all the stuff. Man, I'm like, you got to keep some of that to yourself.

Speaker 18 Everything ain't put in the business. I think some athletes should just tone that down.
You think he's doing too much still to still be active like that? Ooh, yeah, he just.

Speaker 18 But

Speaker 18 that's who he is. That's what I'm about to say.

Speaker 18 And I don't.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 he doesn't see that. Man, I ain't doing that.
I'm just telling. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 18 You just tell it. I know.

Speaker 18 But

Speaker 18 it's just some of the things that he said about the gambling. Man, if you can hook your homeboys up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was like, you giving a recipe right there.

Speaker 18 He got that episode. It was like, wait, that's what you said.

Speaker 18 we asking why you say

Speaker 18 yeah y'all don't got a troll y'all already getting enough money which we not but you know what i'm saying you ain't you can't get too much of that yeah right but i'm saying he was like basically like we was making up stuff like you literally gave us a play on how to bet with our friends like you know what i'm saying so yeah shout out to mpj though that's the thing you just got to be careful because people will take anything that you say they take it as serious they take it as fact yeah man you heard that because i remember we've all you know been in the league man what you think of this game i don't think nothing don't ask me nothing

Speaker 18 you get jammed up the first thing you're gonna give up the big thing man my boy sharp hooked it up man he said man take this because he no yeah

Speaker 18 when it comes to that don't ask me about no game don't ask me about who playing who not playing because i ain't got nothing but i'm sure 100 i ain't got nothing but

Speaker 18 and we also encourage others hey don't put yourself in a bad situation it's cool we're not looking for clickbait we not looking to go rival please don't say something you got to back up because we had an incident on our show And when you go back and look at it, it looks terrible.

Speaker 18 But we don't want to put nobody in this situation. We want to come on, have fun, celebrate you, but don't put yourself in a clickbait situation.
But that's the thing. Look,

Speaker 18 you can't win because it's hard to beat the social media line. That's a fact.
You can't. You know, somebody come on and they share a story, y'all gossiping.

Speaker 18 You ask a guy a question. He tell, how am I gossiping? I just asked the question.

Speaker 18 That's normally what happens. Hey, y'all sitting around talking.
Hey, man, what y'all do the other night? Oh, you gossiping. Damn, I just said I didn't.

Speaker 18 Nah, for sure. That's true.
That's true. But that's what we've covered now.

Speaker 18 If somebody says something that somebody doesn't like, you gossip. Or you hate it.
Or you hate. You hating one of y'all.
I ain't nobody hating on y'all, bro. It ain't that deep.

Speaker 18 I mean, as a, and you know this, as a ex-professional athlete,

Speaker 18 I don't watch the game as a fan. Yeah.

Speaker 18 I'm not, he scored good. He got interception good.
I'm trying to figure out why.

Speaker 18 What were they in? Okay, they were in three wides. They were in an empty set.

Speaker 18 I'm looking at, okay, they're in 21 personnel. They're in 11.
They're in 12. They're in scat protection.

Speaker 18 They're ripping. They're lizard.
Okay, coverage. They're in quarters.
They ain't cover two. They ain't cover five.
I play quarters on mine.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 18 They play quarters on bad. Yeah, that's my thing.
And so that's my thing. I'm looking at that down in distance.
I'm looking at the area on the field.

Speaker 18 You know, red zone. So I'm looking at stuff like that.
And so a lot of time, guys get mad. Because they know this ain't bullshit.

Speaker 18 See, the fan, a casual fan.

Speaker 18 Bro, I don't mean the bag, but I'm 267. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Okay, yeah, if y'all know that, I'm 267.

Speaker 18 Of 30,000 men that's ever played this game, coached this game, owned the team, your general manager, I'm 267.

Speaker 18 I got the credentials. So ain't nobody hating on you.
I already did it. It's your turn to do it.

Speaker 18 But you did mess up.

Speaker 18 You did mess up. Yeah.

Speaker 18 So I just leave it at that. I don't go.
Hey, when I was younger, I would go back and forth with a guy. I'm like, what the F am I going back and forth with a guy?

Speaker 18 I said what I said. I keep it moving.
But the most times, I see a lot of guys. When I see them, they're like, man, you hard.
But I tell you what, you fair.

Speaker 18 You call it just like you see it. Hey.
And people, y'all see me. I've called Kate Manning out.
I've called Tom Brady. I've called Reese out.
Right is right, wrong is wrong.

Speaker 18 Everybody see God made a mistake, he made a mistake.

Speaker 18 I'm not trying to take away anything. You can't take away something.
Hold on, hold on,

Speaker 18 hold on. You're going crazy.
Whatever. But I ain't never heard you go against Brian.
Oh, yes, I have. Oh, yeah.
You better go back. They go ahead and do a whole YouTube monologue going on.

Speaker 18 Go ahead. Go check the tape.

Speaker 18 Brian. We can do some crazy stuff.
Uncle's like, shit, he should have been there. He should have caught it.

Speaker 18 Nah, nah, nah. Nah.
You know, sometimes they be going crazy. Y'all be going crazy.
But, nah, LeBron just made some plays of that, you know, hey, nah, that ain't his fault. Nah.

Speaker 18 You threw that without a vibe, LeBron.

Speaker 18 I was just talking shit because I know you fuck with Bron Hill. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 But the thing is, I think, and he appreciate that. He's like, uh-uh, you real? Yeah.
You know, he, hey,

Speaker 18 keep that in the business. They know.

Speaker 18 They know.

Speaker 18 I don't got no ill will towards everybody. I want everybody to get 500 million.
Hell, I just tell my mom all the time, you need to tell me you couldn't wait 10 years.

Speaker 18 You had to be done with kids at 24?

Speaker 18 Damn. Tell my mom the same thing.
Daddy, all that money. Nah, for sure.
These guys, Todd is making more money in one year than I've made a whole career.

Speaker 18 Get some of that. Nah, for sure.

Speaker 18 Nah, I love playing when I play because I have a bread of appreciation and I got an opportunity to see and play with a lot of the greats. And so, look, I'm not envious of these guys.

Speaker 18 Life, God has blessed me tenfold.

Speaker 18 If I don't make another dime, God, you've been too good to me to begin with. So, hey, I'm good.
But, we're going to make some more money. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 18 That's going to happen.

Speaker 18 If you play right now, though, Shay, I feel like

Speaker 18 you already was a popular player, but with social media and how you. Yeah, I was up there without social media.

Speaker 18 How crazy do you think it would have been? It would have been dumb. He'd have been a bigger person.

Speaker 18 For sure, bro. No, they wouldn't.
I couldn't. Because I wouldn't be able to hold my tongue.
I'd be calling everybody out.

Speaker 18 You terrible. You terrible.
You so hell. Yeah.
I'm going to give it to you the first quarter. He gets it the second quarter.

Speaker 18 And just so you don't feel left out, you're going to get it the whole second half.

Speaker 18 I love it. I love it.
They would have mic him up, would have been crazy. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 Oh, baby devil.

Speaker 18 Social media. And you know, I could literally, I could live and go on social media and act somebody that I'm going to play a game.

Speaker 18 Oh, y'all getting disrespectful before the game? What?

Speaker 18 I'm talking before the week of the game.

Speaker 18 Sending gifts. Oh, man, man.
You send gifts to Revis? No, no, no. That's the one time I lost.

Speaker 18 That's the one time. That's the one time.
That's the one time I lost. You had to pick and choose.
Like, you could curse a lot of people. Like, you had to know who to curse.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Like, you couldn't curse Reggie White. You already know who he was.
Don't wait.

Speaker 18 He hurt your quarterback.

Speaker 18 He's a minister. So.
I'm about to say he didn't even cuss. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Demonstration. Yeah, yeah.
But you, I mean, you knew who to bother. Yeah.

Speaker 18 And because you knew who would go back and forth with you, and normally it was like the D-line, but

Speaker 18 I ain't even talking to your fat ass. I'm talking to you.

Speaker 18 But he ain't going to say nothing. I said, well, I'm not talking to you.
And the offensive line will get mad at me because I done woke up their guy.

Speaker 18 But I'm trying to talk to my guy. I'm trying to get my guy out of his game.
Who talked the most, though, in both of y'all careers?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I besides you, You did a lot of talking.

Speaker 18 I talked a lot. Johnny Ramble talked a lot.
Yeah. John Ramble talked a lot.

Speaker 18 He said he ain't take showers and stuff, right?

Speaker 18 Oh, Johnny talked a lot. Yeah.
I don't know. Probably not.
He said something like

Speaker 18 that.

Speaker 18 John Ramble talked a lot.

Speaker 18 Did Ray Lewis talk a lot? Nah, Ray didn't, not a lot. I mean, he would, you know, he would, you know,

Speaker 18 you know, talk like he's a machine. Yeah.
Y'all terrible. Y'all not good.
But he really didn't like talk to like, to belittle nobody. Right, okay.

Speaker 18 You terrible. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Keep talking. You're going to be on the wave a while in the morning.
Damn.

Speaker 18 Damn. Now, see, I was trying to be nice.

Speaker 18 Any corners talk to you like that?

Speaker 18 See, my talk was more entertainment. It wasn't malicious.

Speaker 18 Really at people. I was more fun.

Speaker 18 Trying to think. Fred Smoot.
Remember Fred Smoot? From Mississippi State? No? Nah.

Speaker 18 Play with

Speaker 18 the commander. Play with the commander.
No, Red, bro. Yeah.
I ain't seen him on Mad. I got to go look it up.

Speaker 18 Yeah,

Speaker 18 he talked a lot. He talked crazy.
You was just talking loud. Uncle's more.
Yeah, I was talking about

Speaker 18 it. I know you not doing nothing today.

Speaker 18 First of all, why you talking? You on the bench?

Speaker 18 How you on the beach? If you was that good, you being here. How you ain't outside of club?

Speaker 18 You ain't getting nothing today.

Speaker 18 Clearly, you not getting in the game today.

Speaker 18 But that'd be the guys, that'd be the guys that'd be doing the most talking. The guys on the sideline are playing special teams.
Gotcha. I'm like, bro.

Speaker 18 Special team? Okay.

Speaker 18 Look, it's a special team, but you can't be talking like that when you're not having to deal with me. Right, right.

Speaker 18 Our new co-hosts talk a lot now, though. Zaire Franklin, he's one of our co-hosts.
He said he talks a lot. He said he's number one.
Oh, you number one talk? That's what he said.

Speaker 18 Nah. He said he number one now.
That's what he told us on the show.

Speaker 18 No. And that's one thing.
When we played the Coast, the Coast, they got, I don't know, Coach, maybe Coach Dungeon didn't let them talk or something. But

Speaker 18 I mean, they were good. I mean, because Peyton had started to become Peyton back then.
But they didn't realize that. Yeah, no, everybody was quiet.
Marvin Harrison was real quiet.

Speaker 18 Marvin had Marvin this season.

Speaker 18 You better not send that to Marvin. Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 18 Oh, Lord, have my father.

Speaker 18 Shout out to Marvin.

Speaker 18 Keep it cute. See, he always goes.
We try to keep it on the field. That's my dog.
Keep it cute.

Speaker 18 Now that you say that about the coast, oh, we didn't have to

Speaker 18 say that. Ed was quiet.
Danger. That's crazy.

Speaker 18 You know what? It's mainly like divisions. Because we see each other all the time.
We're in the same division. The Raiders,

Speaker 18 the Chiefs, the Chargers, we were in the same division. So we go, you know, we really going back and forth.
When I was at Baltimore, us in Pittsburgh,

Speaker 18 us in the Titans, or us in the Jags. We're going back and forth because we see each other twice a year.
Team, it's hard to build up a rival with somebody you only see

Speaker 18 once.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 That's interesting. Can I ask you this question? Obviously, y'all was running y'all division.
How do you think your team would have fared up against this current version of the Chiefs?

Speaker 18 You know what I'm saying? Especially if I had in the same division at y'all peaks. How would them battles would have been? You're talking about my Broncos in the 90s? Yes, sir.

Speaker 18 We run them off the field. Damn.
Ooh, light work.

Speaker 18 They couldn't stop that running game.

Speaker 18 You got to realize, we had a Hall of Fame left tackle, Hall of Fame quarterback, Hall of Fame tight end, Hall of Fame running back, Hall of Fame safety.

Speaker 18 But we were loaded. Our whole offensive line weren't you.
We put four of our offensive linemen in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 18 Damn.

Speaker 18 I was in the Pro Bowl. John was in the Pro Bowl.
TD was in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 18 Three of our four of our offensive linemen was in the Pro Bowl. At Water, Romanowski, and Alfred Williams.
So we had like nine Pro Bowl fighters at our P. Wow.
Now, y'all had a whip for sure.

Speaker 18 Y'all had a whip. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 That answered the question right there.

Speaker 18 And they're going to have to deal with me. I'm a problem.

Speaker 18 Hey, hey. And you know, some, you know, something, hey, and I,

Speaker 18 problems, sometimes you can solve a problem. I was an issue.
You got to troubleshoot me.

Speaker 18 You got to get back. You got to get back.

Speaker 18 I don't know what's wrong with it, but we're working. We're going to try to kick it out.
We're going to try to get it figured out by the end of the day.

Speaker 18 You got to troubleshoot this.

Speaker 18 I like this. You ain't solving this problem.
You got to troubleshoot this.

Speaker 18 We working as hard as we can,

Speaker 18 Mr. Hill.
We working the hardest we can.

Speaker 18 But it might take us a while, but we're going to get it figured out. No, you're not.

Speaker 18 We just talked around the arena, though.

Speaker 18 Not for sure.

Speaker 18 Oh, okay.

Speaker 18 So, what y'all got going on for the rest of the day?

Speaker 18 Man, just joining obviously.

Speaker 18 He's going to meet your run today. Yeah, I'm doing a couple shows, but other than that, chilling.
Oh, you filling it, you getting it for somebody? Yeah.

Speaker 18 Oh, my God. I don't know about that.
Where it's all.

Speaker 18 Sean?

Speaker 18 Sean, where's Sean Porter go?

Speaker 18 Tell him I said, come over here before I make him fight.

Speaker 18 Yeah. All right.
Yeah, we beat him. Yeah, we get him.
Yeah. Who? Sean Porter.
Who's gonna get him? Me. Man, I lump.

Speaker 18 All right, me already.

Speaker 18 Sean Porter. Yeah, you know he fight, man.
He's more portable. Man,

Speaker 18 sleep.

Speaker 18 Sleep. Well, quick.
I get him out of that third round, probably. He got it.
Nah. He don't stop, bro.

Speaker 18 He'll pit bull, bro.

Speaker 18 Who don't? No, no, no, no. I ain't been in the ring with all of them already.
No, no, no, no. That ain't nothing.

Speaker 18 He do be going down to the spa with them. Oh, that's cool, but I'm talking with them lights is on, you got kids that want to see you the next day.
They're gonna see me. I don't know.

Speaker 18 He won't see them, but they'll see him.

Speaker 18 Hold up. So, y'all don't understand.
Y'all see, wait till February. We'll be really happening, though.

Speaker 18 Like, this is a real thing. Man, I'm finna beat the shit out of James Harrison, man.

Speaker 18 Yeah,

Speaker 18 but that's still me.

Speaker 18 I gotta see this, man.

Speaker 18 Where is that? Where y'all doing this at? In Frisco. Got a Super Bowl.

Speaker 18 Let me air everybody under one umbrella.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 18 You already got the venue?

Speaker 18 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 We'll do it outside of Archo.

Speaker 18 I tried to get him a tuna fight. He said he didn't want no tuna.

Speaker 18 I don't need no tuna. Tuna for what?

Speaker 18 I've been doing this 37 years, man. You might want to call Mark Henry or somebody, man.
Nah.

Speaker 18 He said he got it, so. Easy work.
I'm going to let, you know. I'm there.
I can't wait. I can't wait to see this.
I was just, you know, hoping that it would happen

Speaker 18 around our vacation time.

Speaker 18 He gets some time off.

Speaker 18 He'll need a couple days off.

Speaker 18 I don't take no days off. Yeah, he won't be on Nightcap right after that one.
He'll get my name. Listen, after a football game, I'm at the stadium the next morning.

Speaker 18 This ain't no different. Damn.
Be available to fill in at night, right? I got you. Just call me.

Speaker 18 Just call me.

Speaker 18 I want y'all to keep doubting me. Don't believe in me.

Speaker 18 Just like my exes. They didn't believe in me.
Now look at me.

Speaker 18 Hey, my exes didn't believe me either.

Speaker 18 Now look at me. Check these guys out in the morning at 5:20 a.m.
Now look at me.

Speaker 18 Thank you, man. Thank you guys for coming up, bro.

Speaker 18 Nah, he did shit, though.

Speaker 18 Hey, let's get this group show.

Speaker 18 I'm just letting the robot involve.

Speaker 18 You gotta be about to count your fish?

Speaker 18 Country fish?

Speaker 18 We don't go there that often. No, we'll eat that like this.

Speaker 18 I was about to say they might be messing with it. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 18 I'm gonna have to check it out when I'm done.

Speaker 18 I'm gonna put you on Shadow Ram. Shadow Lamb.
You know what I'm really?

Speaker 18 Culture, too.

Speaker 18 Shadow Round. Let us know what you're doing.
Bear. Bear.

Speaker 18 See, my dog. Love.
Keep getting it, baby. Yep.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 18 Oh.

Speaker 18 Yeah, come on. Come on, Joe.

Speaker 18 We're trying to get there.

Speaker 18 I get it. I get it.
What time for you out here?

Speaker 18 I'm good.

Speaker 18 You over there. Yes, sir.

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Speaker 18 OJo had to take a break right now.

Speaker 18 Right. Yeah.
That way. Yeah,

Speaker 18 yeah. Sit right there.
Right, yeah.

Speaker 18 How you going, boss? Bro, I'm good.

Speaker 18 It's been a while since we had a buzz like this. Yeah.
It's been a while. It's been a little minute.
You got two champions. Yeah.

Speaker 18 One is a

Speaker 18 four-belt era era, two-division champ. The other is the undisputed

Speaker 18 super middleweight 168. You got champ versus champ.

Speaker 18 How do you see this fight playing out?

Speaker 29 This is,

Speaker 29 you know,

Speaker 29 good friends with Bud, and I text him, I say, yo, you lethal, man. Just be lethal.

Speaker 29 And this week, as I'm, you know, really ramping up and this week is here, and I'm looking at, I say, yo, we got two lethal juggernauts in the ring that can find that right moment, can nail nail that right moment.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 29 And the precision that both these guys have in terms of how they deliver that punch and where it lands.

Speaker 29 This one might be a matter of just moments.

Speaker 29 Both of these guys are great time managers in the game.

Speaker 29 Canelo seems to be the kind of guy who's going to manage this clock every single minute. Whereas Bud is going to just take what's coming to him.

Speaker 29 He's going to push certain buttons if he needs to, where those moments come. And

Speaker 29 being one of the guys that got in the ring with him, I have to respect everything that's been said about him for so long because I actually saw it.

Speaker 29 So he's one of the few guys out there that can come into the ring and be a chameleon and literally transform and do whatever he needs to do to win this.

Speaker 29 So all that said, I don't think it's going to be a slow fight. But the moments are going to be like really, really fast moments.
They're going to be fast moments. And it really depends.

Speaker 29 I think, where Bud is at at the end of those moments. If Bud is on the top, on the better side of those moments, he's just going to keep going at him.

Speaker 18 He's going to keep going at them.

Speaker 29 But if Bud, if there's an exchange and Bud ain't on the right side of that thing, he's going to back up.

Speaker 29 We're going to manage this thing and keep it moving. And so, you know, at the end of it, I do think that Bud is going to win this fight.

Speaker 29 But we are looking at the Canelo Alvarez that throws with the kind of intention.

Speaker 18 He sits down on everything.

Speaker 24 He sits down on everything.

Speaker 18 He really trying to end the fight on every punt.

Speaker 29 Which is why we see him, you know, on the other other side of the fight, that seventh round, eighth round. You know, sometimes he's sucking, win.
I have seen fights where he's sucking win, you know.

Speaker 29 Other fights where he's just coasting, and he's in the ring with people he can coast with.

Speaker 18 He can't coast in this one. No.

Speaker 29 Can't coast in this one.

Speaker 18 You look at the question is, and we had Roy and we had Andre Ward on yesterday. And the question, and Roy said, here's the thing.

Speaker 18 When Bud touch him,

Speaker 18 can he gain his respect? Because if he can't gain his respect, Canelo's gonna just come forward. But if he can gain his respect, now

Speaker 18 he has his attention.

Speaker 29 I'll take that statement a step further, right? Okay. Because people may not understand what does that mean to get your respect, right?

Speaker 29 And I alluded to the analogy of

Speaker 29 a beast thing.

Speaker 18 Okay. Right?

Speaker 29 So when a beast sting you,

Speaker 29 it don't put you down on the ground.

Speaker 18 But you over here like an hour later, like, dang.

Speaker 29 So he just needs his attention for 36 minutes, right? Right. And he has that kind of punch, that kind of precision that when you, I've been hit dead on the nose before,

Speaker 18 I can't breathe for a second. You know what I mean?

Speaker 29 I've been hit and it stings, you know?

Speaker 29 Bud just has to sting, Canelo. Right.
And that's what they mean when they say get his respect. Get his attention.
Right. Make sure he understands if I come in here incorrectly.

Speaker 18 If I come in here incorrectly, I'm going to walk out all the way messed up.

Speaker 24 I'm going to still be up because I'm Canelo I-Rez.

Speaker 29 I got that chin.

Speaker 29 But next time I come in here, my approach is going to be a little bit different.

Speaker 29 So the sooner Bud can get Canelo hesitating, the better it is for Bud.

Speaker 18 Has Canelo fought anybody that has the precision punching

Speaker 18 since Mayweather? Mayweather was the best puncher, counter puncher that Canelo's ever faced.

Speaker 18 Yeah, he's faced some really good fighters but none of them have the punch and precision of maybe a bud so now we saw how

Speaker 18 what Mayweather did and how he looked against Mayweather

Speaker 18 Bud is bud can he cause them similar problems get his attention all it is

Speaker 29 forget about the comparison to Floyd Mayweather and Terrence Crawford because they

Speaker 29 they're different in the ring.

Speaker 18 Bud

Speaker 29 will find his moments and he capitalizes on those moments right and it becomes big right Floyd became someone who just managed the clock and this is just gonna be how this fight gonna go whether you like it or not but the thing these two are so similar in Bud and Floyd both have the ability to do whatever they need to do to make this thing transform and become what they need it to be

Speaker 29 And Canelo hasn't seen that since he's been in the ring with Floyd.

Speaker 29 The other thing, Floyd has his energy and this state of mind when you're looking into his eyes, you don't know what the hell he's thinking. You don't know what the hell he's feeling.

Speaker 29 And on top of that, he's so fast, he's so elusive and everything else that you just don't know what to do. Again, this is going to be the first time

Speaker 29 that Canelo is seeing something like that since he fought. Floyd Mayweather.
I think that was 2013. That's a long time for you to go without seeing that and feeling that.

Speaker 29 That's something that, you know, when we talk about all those experiences, what up, Chad?

Speaker 18 What's up, baby?

Speaker 29 All the ocho, all those things that we can talk about Canelo having in 67 fights, when you got to go that far back to recount something, you probably can't do it.

Speaker 29 And when you've been spoiled, as long as he's been spoiled, guys moving to the beat of his drum,

Speaker 29 how are you going to all of a sudden, you know, so he's going to have to wake up?

Speaker 18 You know what? Everything you just said, too, when I think about the game of boxing, I think about that fight in 2013.

Speaker 18 A polished Floyd Mayweather, a Canelo that's not as polished. Sure.
You think about, look about Canelo's defense, how much he's improved with his defense.

Speaker 18 So if you do hit, you get a bud that is similar to

Speaker 18 Floyd in a sense, and being able to have the ring IQ, being able to punch in between punches, not engaging, but boxing smart, countering smart, staying off the ropes.

Speaker 18 I don't think that's Bud's style to be on the ropes like that the way Floyd was.

Speaker 18 But in general, what happens when you have a more polished Canelo as opposed to when he fought, opposed when he fought Mayweather back in 2013 against Bud.

Speaker 29 What happens then? It's a more polished Canelo, but a more polished Canelo with a lot of knowledge on him now. So in 2013, he hadn't had that experience, so he didn't see that kind of speed.

Speaker 29 He didn't see that kind of elusiveness and that kind of movement and things of that nature. There's no doubt that after that fight, he became a different fighter.

Speaker 29 But since then, in the last four years, three, three-ish years, he's become a different fighter now.

Speaker 29 And like I was telling

Speaker 29 my man right here,

Speaker 29 who he is now is a time manager. Someone who's not going to just, as soon as that bell ring,

Speaker 29 now he, you know, trying to find his moments and stuff like that.

Speaker 29 And, you know, I think that that's the difference in this one. You know, he became more polished, but now it's been

Speaker 29 an aggression, a degression that has come just through life.

Speaker 18 Right. In general, okay.
Okay, I got you. You look at a guy.
He's, I don't know if he's falled a guy.

Speaker 18 Bud, South Paul naturally, but he's right side of the Orthodox. Yeah.
But Roy was telling us yesterday he brought Boots in his hand, who's another guy that's South Paul, but they can fight Orthodox.

Speaker 18 Boots

Speaker 18 and Bud.

Speaker 18 How much of an influence, how much is this going to help Canelo because he got an opportunity?

Speaker 18 I don't know how long, how long he had him in his camp, but he's going to get an opportunity to see something that he wouldn't normally have been able to see.

Speaker 29 Right. And I think if anything, it kind of just wakes him up to what he's going to see on fight night.
What y'all think? I think

Speaker 29 Boots and Terrence Crawford are practically the same fighter.

Speaker 18 A little bit.

Speaker 18 I would take Boots is a little bit, takes a little bit, a few more chances, a little bit flashier.

Speaker 18 They differ in the sense I think Bud, the only advantage I think I would put over Boots is Bud has a different mentality. Yep.
Boots is a dog, but something wrong with Bud.

Speaker 18 It's different. He's willing to get in there with anybody, obviously going up two, three-way classes to fight Canelo.
Not very many people will take that chance.

Speaker 18 Not very many boxers, let alone people in general.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 I don't know.

Speaker 29 But it's a great look ahead of a fight like this.

Speaker 29 There was no better look he could have got. I know he's got a Cuban in the gym with him, and he's had this Cuban in the gym with him for some.
There was no better look for him ahead of this fight.

Speaker 29 You know, you got, you know how it is when you got the B team on the other side running the

Speaker 29 scout offense, the scout defense. It would have been for you.

Speaker 29 There's no better scout offense and defense

Speaker 29 than Booce Ennis. Yeah,

Speaker 18 we had Caleb Plant on, and he was discussing the fight. He says, Bud needs to be all the way in or all the way out.
I don't like it. Nothing mid-range.
No. I don't like it.
I don't want to like that.

Speaker 18 You don't want to be on the end of one of those power shots with Canelo because you're asking a guy. That's, I mean, Canelo probably walks around 195, 200.
So he's a big man to begin with.

Speaker 18 Now, Bud, Bud is not a small man. The difference is, Bud is not stripping down that extra 21 pounds.

Speaker 18 Bud is stopping at 68 as opposed to having to go all the way down to 47. So Bud's like, hey, y'all make it look seem like I can't punch.

Speaker 18 Y'all make it seem like I ain't eight.

Speaker 18 So he ain't the only one that's going to be punching in.

Speaker 29 I like what Caleb said. All the way in or all the way out.

Speaker 29 I think once you establish the all the way in or the all-the-way out movement, I think early on, it might be all the way out.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 29 We're going to see some, I guarantee you guys, we're going to see some moments where Bud tries to literally physical push Canelo back. Love it.
Want to see it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 18 That's the all the way in.

Speaker 29 Once he's all the way in, it can't be all the way in and I'm trying to tie up and all this other stuff.

Speaker 29 I think we might see that early because Bud just wants to see what's the strength like, what's the power like? Some guys actually have the ability to do that.

Speaker 29 Manny was the kind of guy he would come out in the first two rounds and he let somebody hit him and I'm like, stop, Manny.

Speaker 29 Like, that joint was too close right right but he always he said I just needed I wanted I didn't need I want to see what it feels like you know right and that's how that's how bud is but I think once he establishes the all the way in or the all the way out right then he can start playing with the mid-range yeah because for bud it literally only takes one step and for bud he's that that that intuitive that smart that fast right that quick to see it and then I think he can play the mid range but for the early part of the fight I think all the way in all the way out stronger than you think yeah you saw him tussling with me i saw it i saw it i'm like all right here we go yeah i said he go a lawsuit because i i'm like shay shay don't know him he go a lawsuit because shayshay gonna get tossed and then he gonna

Speaker 18 i was thinking i said man hey this man got a fight here in a couple of months yeah i look like flipping this man because you know i was like duh i say so i was like he like man he said man uh uh uh you you was gonna try i said man i was gonna try to flip you man i said what the hell i'm gonna flip you if i flip a man he gotta fight you but it's gonna cost this man 50 million but ain't gonna stop until he wants to stop.

Speaker 29 And the funny thing about that is, like, that's who he is in the ring.

Speaker 18 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 29 So when there's exchanges, he's not gonna stop till he wants to stop. This dude could get floored and knocked out because this is what I want to do.

Speaker 29 You know, so it's great.

Speaker 18 He has to put that aside, what you just said. Yeah.
That ego, that pride. Yeah.
You got to box smart. You got to come into the ring with some ego.

Speaker 29 You got to come into the ring with some conceitedness, but it has to be intelligent.

Speaker 29 I think they got this one figured out where

Speaker 29 they mellowed it out and they balanced it where they know.

Speaker 18 You can tell by exactly talking in the press conference. Yeah, exactly.
We can tell. The thing is, is that you have to take risk, but not unnecessary risk.
Yeah. Because, look,

Speaker 18 it's a fight. Listen.
You got to fight at some point.

Speaker 29 At the end of the day, when people talk about he got to get his attention and he got to get his respect and all that other kind of stuff, it doesn't require this firefight.

Speaker 18 it don't require all that. It just requires that moment where I'm going to hit you.

Speaker 29 Instead of going out, I'm going to stay right here.

Speaker 18 I'm going to find my moment to get to that body, get to that head, roll over, and come a little bit more, a little bit more.

Speaker 18 And that's how, you know,

Speaker 29 those are the kind of, those are intelligent, it's called intelligent risks, you know?

Speaker 18 Yeah. Because you do realize now, in order for you to throw a punch, you got to be in arm length.

Speaker 18 Two back.

Speaker 29 You know, I think one of the components to this fight that people don't talk about, or definitely I've I've talked about on the Portaway podcast, by the way.

Speaker 29 But one of the things that people don't talk about is the intelligence of Canelo Alvarez.

Speaker 29 Pay attention. Canelo has been Canelo even after fighting Floyd.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 29 Maybe more combinations, more slick movement, steps over and things of that nature, but he's always come to the ring and done him. Didn't matter if it was Caleb Plant jabs from the outside.

Speaker 29 Didn't matter if it was Egger Berlanga taking you the distance. You didn't do something to change a mode to end some of these guys.

Speaker 29 Even when you go back to Caleb Plant, you ended Caleb Plant because you found a moment. What if that moment don't come against Bud? Are you prepared to do anything different?

Speaker 29 I think one of the biggest factors of this fight is who's better here

Speaker 29 and who has the better team.

Speaker 29 Because you got a Bud Crawford camp who knows they're prepared to come in and do three, four, five, six different things.

Speaker 18 Literally.

Speaker 29 And you got a Canelo who's in here, gonna come in here, and I'm gonna be me and stop it. What if you being you ain't getting a job done?

Speaker 18 You gotta adjust.

Speaker 29 And you gotta adjust, but you ain't trained to adjust.

Speaker 18 Right, right. So you look at I'm the bigger man.
I throw the harder punches. I should be able to get him out of there.
There it is.

Speaker 18 Now, what happens if you hadn't got him out of there in the time frame that he thinks he should get him out of there?

Speaker 18 The longer this fight goes, I think it favors Bud.

Speaker 29 I do too. People think it favors Bud because of the decision.
I actually think it favors Bud because things that, it's like I always say, think think about it in meters.

Speaker 29 And you guys know from playing ball, that fourth quarter, you're not the same as you were when the game started.

Speaker 29 Sometimes you ain't

Speaker 18 where the game started. You go up a level.

Speaker 18 In that second half, you go up a level, you know.

Speaker 29 So I think because of that 67

Speaker 29 fight mileage,

Speaker 29 Canelo and Bud, hypothetically, they both coming in here at 98%.

Speaker 29 Canelo's is going to dip.

Speaker 18 a lot quicker than Bud's.

Speaker 29 And the second half of this fight is going to be interesting.

Speaker 18 The funny thing, too, when I I think about the second half of the fight and watching all of Canelo's fights since he's been fighting, he takes off round

Speaker 18 five and six and deteriorates seven and on. He deteriorates.

Speaker 18 He just does.

Speaker 18 If you've watched him fight over the years, so I think conditioning is also going to play a factor in Bud actually in the beginning of the fight and picking that moment when to gain that respect, it's going to be a long night for you.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 29 It's going to be a long night for you. I agree.

Speaker 29 I think that we have seen that where it is, the fifth, the sixth round, give or take, is where where he takes off and then he tries to come on strong once again.

Speaker 18 Bingo, yeah.

Speaker 29 Right, round nine, round ten. And if it ain't there, we're just going to finish the night.
Right.

Speaker 29 And with Bud Crawford, you can't do that.

Speaker 29 And I think, again, bringing a systematic approach means I watch all your fights.

Speaker 29 I watch, for me, this is how I prepared.

Speaker 29 I watched your first fight and I watched your last fight because I want to see how different you are when that first one and how different your mentality is, how you move differently and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 29 They picked up on stuff like that, and that's the difference between being good and being great. You got a team behind you that can bring that systematic approach and say, hey, you know,

Speaker 29 from a standpoint of strategy, this is where he's going to dip.

Speaker 29 If we don't give him that moment in the fifth round, we know he's going to dip.

Speaker 29 They might actually come into the round, into the ring in the fifth round or the sixth round, and they actually beat around.

Speaker 29 They just move and do what we got to do because we know you're looking for that moment yeah

Speaker 18 and we know past this moment your body must muscle memory it's going to start to dip yeah yeah so it's a lot of components to this thing that make it sexy for both of them yeah i'm excited it's a very interesting it's going to be a very interesting match because we got champions yeah if we got champions yeah i for me personally i think there's more to game for bud than canelo if canelo wins you know what they're gonna say he beat a man that was three divisions with three weight glasses down yeah you beat a guy that was 38.

Speaker 18 You didn't fight him when he was 30. So Canelo can't win.

Speaker 18 Bud has all the chips. Bud can walk and really have all Canelo chips.
And we think Bud is a great fighter now. He beats Canelo.

Speaker 18 We ain't no more thinking.

Speaker 18 We look at him in a totally different light. So let me defend Canelo.
Go ahead, defend it.

Speaker 29 Because at the end of the day, you came knocking on my door.

Speaker 29 At the end of the day, you called me out. And I know y'all want to see me in the ring with Benavidez, but let's be honest.

Speaker 29 Benavidez is not going to sell the tickets that Bud Crawford is going to sell.

Speaker 29 Let's be honest. But Benavidez doesn't have his excellency behind him the way that Bud Crawford does.

Speaker 29 And a lot of ways, respectfully to Benavidez, because it's the fight the world wants to see, I want to see.

Speaker 29 In a lot of ways, this fight made more sense.

Speaker 18 It made more money, too.

Speaker 18 And it made more money.

Speaker 29 And since he came knocking on my door,

Speaker 29 what I'm supposed to do when somebody knock on my door and I open it up and they threatening me, I did what I was supposed to do.

Speaker 18 I like it. Appreciate the breakdown, man.
Appreciate you, sir. Congratulations on everything.
Enjoy the fight.

Speaker 18 No, forget you, man. You late.
What you have? You late. Have to use the bathroom.

Speaker 18 How do you use the bathroom?

Speaker 18 Let's wrap it up.

Speaker 18 Man,

Speaker 18 I can't wait for this fight. It's going to be very interesting.
We need more fights like this. I agree.
We need more fights like this. We don't need guys.

Speaker 18 Look, that old guys trying to protect their old because everybody wants to be one of retired Floyd Mayweather now and and guy you're not going to be thought of as Floyd even if you're 70 and old you're not going to be thought of as Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather is a transcendent he's a once in a generation or once in a lifetime he's not once in a generation generation is only 25 sure Floyd Mayweather is a once in a lifetime yeah

Speaker 18 you might not ever see another guy that has his defense but people don't realize when Floyd was at light of weight Floyd was knocking people out yeah

Speaker 18 it was before he got his hands his hands and started messing up his hands that he's like I need to do what I I need to do to win.

Speaker 29 Floyd was a complete fighter that just altered what he needed to do to remain undefeated.

Speaker 18 Go look at Floyd at 30 and 35. Go look at Floyd at 40.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I know. All I know is people didn't smother Floyd.
They talk about, hey, he got a little bit of song. He got pillow hands.
Okay, why didn't people just rush in on it? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Speaker 18 Damn. Uh-huh.

Speaker 18 I don't want to do that no more. I'm sorry.
Yeah, exactly. Just need your attention.

Speaker 18 He was very sharp. Very sharp.
So appreciate it, bro. Yo, yeah.
Enjoy it. Yes, sir.

Speaker 18 Got it with you, all right? Yep. Appreciate you.
All right, boy, good to see you, baby. Good to see you, son.
I see you call.

Speaker 18 I said, I see you call. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, I got you. All right, love.

Speaker 18 You know what? I forgot?

Speaker 18 I forgot to challenge Sean to a fight.

Speaker 18 Ask him about the money he lost last night.

Speaker 18 Yeah. I thought you was going to win money back so you could pay me.
I did. I lost $200 last night.

Speaker 18 So how are you going to pay me my money with it?

Speaker 18 Because, listen, I'm gonna get money tonight. My baby, she gonna give me some money tonight, and I'm gonna get your money back.
But she gonna give you money to lose. You already lost.

Speaker 18 I know, I know, I know. But I'm just, it was only $200.
It wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad.
It wasn't that bad. So that could have paid down your debt.

Speaker 18 So you want me to give you $20? Nope. I want the whole thing.

Speaker 18 $8,900.

Speaker 18 You know what's so funny? A lot of people, they complain in the chat, why don't you pay Anka's money? They don't realize that I've been trying to pay you, but you can't.

Speaker 18 No, you haven't been trying to pay you. You refuse to to do Apple Pay, you refuse to do cash app pay.
I'm right here right now. I don't need Apple.
I need Ocho Pay. I know.

Speaker 18 I got my phone right here, and you tell me your PayPal, and I can send it to you. I ain't got no pals.

Speaker 18 Hey, ain't one of them, but I ain't got no pals. You don't want no money, man.
I do.

Speaker 18 This man gonna tell me how he's gonna pay me my money back. I got every app on my phone.
You give me, give me your email. I ain't got no phone.
I lost my phone. I ain't got no phone.

Speaker 18 See what I mean, chat? I'm a minimalist now.

Speaker 18 For the next week, I ain't gonna use a phone. All right, I got you.

Speaker 18 I got you. Well, I'm gonna be at the blackjack table tonight.

Speaker 18 I'm gonna get your money back.

Speaker 18 So, in other words, they're gonna get some more of my money. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 18 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 18 No, no. And no, my baby going.
I'm going to use her money tonight. I used mine last night.
So

Speaker 18 we swap days. Like,

Speaker 18 one day is my money, and tonight is her money. Oh, okay.
Yeah. So appreciate that, twin.

Speaker 18 When am I going to get my money?

Speaker 18 When you download the app, Apple Pay. Oh, yo, I ain't got no Apple.
You got a phone? No. I told y'all I turned my phones off.
So how you do the show when you ain't got the phone?

Speaker 18 How you communicate with your producers and they live right down the street from me.

Speaker 18 I go knock on the door. Okay, okay.
Okay. That's it.

Speaker 18 You gonna get the new iPhone 17?

Speaker 18 So it's real thin too. You saw it?

Speaker 18 You saw it?

Speaker 18 The iPhone 17.

Speaker 18 I can't work at 16.

Speaker 18 Yeah, you was bad with that. You know, they got classes at Apple.
You can sit in on the class. They teach you how to

Speaker 18 work everything.

Speaker 18 Well, I saw it on this

Speaker 18 financial literacy class. Yeah.
And they say when people owe you money, you need to collect it because the money is drawing interest in their bank account and not yours.

Speaker 18 But listen, we're in 2025 and technology is so far advanced, they made it easy for those that don't carry cash. You can make a transaction using the app that are on phones.
That's a lot of them, too.

Speaker 18 Man, you know, sometimes the bank be sending people money and they go spend that money, they end up going to jail.

Speaker 18 You know what I'm saying? They give you more if they put more money in your bank account than should be there for your job, send you an extra check that you're not supposed to have. Right, right.

Speaker 18 So I don't want to run that risk. I just want you to shoot me a cool $5,900.
Okay. I got you.

Speaker 18 Matter of fact, you know, the casino got to cash yours.

Speaker 18 Yeah, they got to cash your winners. I can use my credit card.
Give me a little advance. Yeah.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 18 I would greatly appreciate that. I got you.
And now, because I want to gamble right

Speaker 18 Oh you gamble I do but I just

Speaker 18 you want me to pay you so you can go lose the money that don't make no sense.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I want you to pay me my money so if I choose to lose my money I'm okay with losing okay, I don't think that's smart you just brought up the word financial literacy if I'm gonna pay you what I owe you and you're gonna take that and go lose it and give it to the casino

Speaker 18 I know but why would you give it to the house? Easy

Speaker 18 all right that's what that's why I feel your money is better off with me because I ain't gonna lose it

Speaker 18 You're not gonna pay me. It doesn't look like you're gonna pay me either.
I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay you.
I'm definitely gonna pay you.

Speaker 18 I bet I win tonight. I'm gonna win tonight.

Speaker 18 I'm gonna win big tonight, too. I can feel it.

Speaker 18 You think so? Yeah, I can feel it. I can feel it.
I can feel it. I don't know about that, Ocho.
Matter of fact, it's 800.

Speaker 18 What's the odds for the fight? Plus 800 on Bud.

Speaker 18 Shoot, so Bud pulls, if I, what, bet 10,000, what I win?

Speaker 18 I get what, about $90,000?

Speaker 18 Plus $800?

Speaker 18 I don't know how to calculate your chat.

Speaker 18 Calculate that for me, chat. Plus $800,

Speaker 18 I put $10,000 on Bud, what'd I get back?

Speaker 18 You win a lot. Yeah.
You'll be able to pay me my money. Right, I'll probably, I'll spit the whole thing with you.

Speaker 18 Like,

Speaker 18 that's the type of friend I am. I'll spit the whole thing with you.

Speaker 18 Well, consider you owe me $5,900 and you hadn't paid me that, the likelihood of you winning that sum of money and then giving me half of it is not very likely.

Speaker 18 It's likely, it's likely because I've always been a man of my word. I was supposed to have my money last year.

Speaker 18 You were supposed to pay me when we got to New Orleans. For real?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Damn. What happened?

Speaker 18 I forgot.

Speaker 18 How do you forget you owe somebody $50? Nah, I forget why I didn't pay you. I've been going through some mental issues.

Speaker 18 You going through a lot of issues? Mental.

Speaker 18 Mental.

Speaker 18 What we got? Nothing.

Speaker 18 We rap.

Speaker 18 We get ready to rap, too. We'll see y'all in a minute.

Speaker 18 Man, my daughter, my daughter just texted me. Dad, start saving up.
This is my dream car.

Speaker 18 What you call them cars, man?

Speaker 18 The fast ones that the rappers be driving. Oh, that track?

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Girl, she might as well be probably watching the show, baby. If you're watching the show, let's focus on track.
Let's focus on track.

Speaker 18 You get that NIL money at Kentucky, you'll be able to buy your own track hawk.

Speaker 18 She sent me a track hawk.

Speaker 18 Oh, well.

Speaker 18 Well,

Speaker 18 she said, you got it. He got it.
No, well, he's going to be $5,900, so you might have to come up with that extra $5,900 because he owe me. Who that?

Speaker 18 You. I got you tonight.
I promise you. You lost money last night.
I lost $200. That ain't no money.
I mean, no disrespect. I mean, it's money, but

Speaker 18 it's not that significant. You lost $5,900

Speaker 18 last year, and you haven't paid me yet. Okay.
I got you.

Speaker 18 I'm just trying to figure out when I'm going to get paid. That's all.
I got you.

Speaker 18 I want to go to a nice dinner.

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 18 I want to go check out a show on the strip. Man, I'm going to a show all the night.
Coach Play, Rat Pack, Dean Martin,

Speaker 18 Frank Sinacho. So you doing all this thing.
You and your baby, y'all doing all this thing, and y'all owe me my, you won't pay me my money. Nah.

Speaker 18 So I can't control. In other words, you and your lady get to go to a show.
Yeah. But me and my people, we won't be able to go to a show.
Y'all could go. How we gonna go? I ain't got no money.

Speaker 18 You need to

Speaker 18 sit on it real quick. Whatever you do have, don't even spend no money right now.
But I think it's important that I'm... My baby ain't never been to Vegas.

Speaker 18 So it's important that I have money to be able to

Speaker 18 introduce her to the things that Vegas has to offer. I don't club, so we're going to shows.
Janet Jackson's here. We might check out Janet Jackson.
She's at Resorts World.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I'm going to go do that. She wants to go to the Spear.
We probably just walk through, take a tour of that. Yeah.
Take it to Caesars Palace.

Speaker 18 Go to shops at Caesars?

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 We ain't going to buy nothing. We're going to window shopping.
I ain't spending no money.

Speaker 18 I get all that. Yeah.
I mean, I can't do none of that. I can't go nowhere.
I can't window shop.

Speaker 18 Where do you want to go? You ain't been already? Think about that. I mean, I just want to walk around.
I just want to see what it feels like like to have $5,900 in my pocket. I feel you got it.

Speaker 18 I don't know what that's like. It's been a long time since I actually had $5,900 in my pocket.

Speaker 18 You shouldn't walk around with no cash anyway, especially in times like this. Yeah, that's not safe.
You're not a rapper. Because why would you have $5,900 in cash anyway? You're not a rapper?

Speaker 18 I mean, I just want a little money, don't you? I got you.

Speaker 18 Walk by something, see, you know, get a souvenir for my sister, my brother. Yeah.
I just want to grab somebody, some get some, get a couple souvenirs. I got you.

Speaker 18 Baby.

Speaker 18 You say she ain't got nothing. She got it.

Speaker 18 No.

Speaker 18 You don't want no smoke?

Speaker 18 You good? Big majority.

Speaker 18 I'm going to stop on you when I see you and tell you, hey, this is what you're saying.

Speaker 18 Ask him what the first thing he said when I saw him yesterday.

Speaker 24 I knew he was going to hit me with it, so I had to tell him, hey, won't we smarter?

Speaker 18 Beat him to the punch.

Speaker 24 He don't want no smoke. I know you don't.

Speaker 18 I'm a pro. I know you don't.
Deb, tell him I done been in the ring with everybody. You know, you have to.

Speaker 18 I take it serious.

Speaker 24 You know? I don't know about that, but.

Speaker 18 I take it serious. Now I'm getting ready to fight Andre Ward.

Speaker 18 Man, hey, Dev, I'm finna beat this nigga ass, Dev.

Speaker 18 Hold on, hold on. Let me take my glasses off so you can see my face.
I'm not playing.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 I wish you the best, man. I appreciate it.
I appreciate that. I'm good.
I'm good.

Speaker 18 I'm good.

Speaker 18 Hey, don't look at me. Hey, I'm just cold.
You know what it is? I'm just cold.

Speaker 18 I'm just calling. I'm just cold.

Speaker 24 You're condoning this, man. You're condoning this.

Speaker 18 This fight, Canelo Crawford. You got two champs,

Speaker 18 an undisputed champ at two different weight clamps, at two different divisions in the 4-bed era. That's Bud, first male to do that.
You got Canelo, who's the undisputed king of

Speaker 18 the super middleweight 168.

Speaker 18 You got a clash of the Titans.

Speaker 18 Somebody walking out there with some bells.

Speaker 18 Man,

Speaker 24 Bud is my boy.

Speaker 24 I think if anybody can do it, it's him.

Speaker 24 If anybody can do it right now, I think that is Bud, and that's what I'm rocking. But I mean, is it an easy task? No.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Because everybody's asking,

Speaker 18 when Bud feels his power,

Speaker 18 how does Bud handle it? Okay.

Speaker 18 When Canelo feels Bud's power, how does he handle it? Does he like, oh, I can't just walk through this man? Or does he say, ah, man, them cake blows, I'm coming.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I mean, that's the big question you know we want to see how how Bud can hold up at and at 168 we've seen we've seen Canelo go up to 175 and take guys punches and knock out Kovalev knock him out code so uh but I just think that that Bud is a different kind of fighter I think that you know he's much more better than much more faster much more you know got much more IQ and

Speaker 24 like I said if anybody can do it I just think that Bud can do it

Speaker 18 Is this a situation that Canelo has never seen anybody other than Floyd when he was much younger to be able to put punches together that has to bring IQ like a Bud Crawford?

Speaker 18 Like you said, we've seen him. Now we know Canelo can take a punch because we saw him fight Triple G and Triple G hit him with some shots.
I don't even know how his head is still on his body.

Speaker 18 And he took it and kept coming. So

Speaker 18 can Bud, who's a natural well-to-weight

Speaker 18 147, he did fight one fight at junior middle.

Speaker 24 He came from 135. Yeah, that's like me going up and fighting Canelo at 168.

Speaker 18 I mean, like I said,

Speaker 18 will it be easy?

Speaker 29 No.

Speaker 24 But he has the size. He has the reach.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 He's got the IQ. The mentality.
The mentality, for sure.

Speaker 24 We got to see if he got the punch resistance.

Speaker 18 How does he fight this fight? Caleb Plant told us yesterday he got to fight two ways, all the way in or all the way out. 100%.

Speaker 18 He cannot be mid-range.

Speaker 24 Caleb know what he's talking about. He got to fight that in, in or he got to be out, out.

Speaker 24 I think that he's going to have a lot of success on the in-end, though.

Speaker 24 I don't think that, I think, of course, Canelo is a great fighter, but I don't think Canelo is expecting him to be fighting on that in end.

Speaker 18 But

Speaker 24 he got to mix it up. He got to do both.

Speaker 24 And like I said, we just got to see how his punch resistance is against a guy like Canelo.

Speaker 24 That's the big question.

Speaker 18 Because, you know, Canelo sit down on everything. Canelo tried to get you up out of it.

Speaker 24 But we've seen his feet slow down.

Speaker 18 You know,

Speaker 24 he hasn't always had the fastest feet,

Speaker 24 but we've seen him get even slower.

Speaker 18 Slower.

Speaker 18 I think that thing for me, obviously watching being a huge boxing enthusiast and loving the game and kind of pouring into it a little bit, for me, the only thing I'm worried about come fight night, obviously, is Bud having to get Canelo's respect early.

Speaker 18 Because all Mexican fighters, there's one thing that we all know that they do is they apply pressure.

Speaker 18 If you don't gain their respect early in the fight, it's going to be a long fucking night.

Speaker 24 If you see Canelo against Charlo, Charlo didn't do anything to gain his respect. So he just ran him around.
He ran him from rope to rope to rope. Bud has to get that respect.

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 they like basically like to go to the body. They try to chop you down, try to take some of that, try to take some of your conditioning away from you with those body shots.
And we know Canelo

Speaker 18 loves to work the body.

Speaker 18 But I just think that

Speaker 18 Bud has the IQ. And like you said, it's all about gaining that respect early.
Because

Speaker 18 if you don't have a man's respect,

Speaker 18 what do you have? He'll walk you down.

Speaker 24 He's going to run you from post to post.

Speaker 18 Yeah. And so Bud's going to have to get that respect.

Speaker 24 You got to watch out going to Bud Body.

Speaker 24 Bud is a good counter puncher.

Speaker 24 Bud can punch.

Speaker 18 And I think the thing is, Bud,

Speaker 18 Bud's a natural south paw, but he has dynamite in his right hand also. That's why he brought Boots Innes in because Boots fights a lot like Bud.

Speaker 18 And so now he has an opportunity to prepare for what he's going to see on Saturday night. Now, whether or not they have the same punching power, they have

Speaker 18 the same ring IQ and things like that, that remains to be seen. Bud is a really, really smart fighter.
He's really, he's, you know.

Speaker 18 you know the the the the counter punches and the guys like a bud they they they're figuring it out okay you're doing this okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay now i got i'm locked in i know what you want i know what you want to do and i know my best counter against what you're trying to do

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 if you're in Bud's corner, what you telling Bud?

Speaker 24 Go in there and get his respect, use his jab,

Speaker 18 fight that in-in or that out-out.

Speaker 24 I would be anxious to, after that first round, I would want to know, like,

Speaker 24 how hard is he really punching?

Speaker 24 And that would tell it, too,

Speaker 18 of...

Speaker 24 if I want to fight that in in or you know how good of an inside fighter he is.

Speaker 24 Like I said, I just don't think that Canelo's feet are the same and they weren't always great to begin with. They weren't great to begin.
I just don't think that

Speaker 24 we've seen it against

Speaker 24 his last fight.

Speaker 18 The guy ran around the ring, but

Speaker 24 he couldn't cut off the ring.

Speaker 24 A guy running, yeah, that's his fault. But also, that's the opponent's fault because he's supposed to cut off the ring.

Speaker 18 Right.

Speaker 24 Especially at the highest level.

Speaker 24 So

Speaker 24 can Canelo cut off the ring? We don't know. We've seen it against Lara.
He couldn't do it against Laura.

Speaker 24 Floyd didn't do much movement, but his speed gave him problems.

Speaker 18 The question is, in the process of trying to cut off the ring, does he spend so much time trying to cut off the ring that he runs himself into something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 And Bud got that trick. He got Dynamite in both hands.

Speaker 18 Yeah, Bud, Blood,

Speaker 24 we got to see if his weight can carry up to 168 as well.

Speaker 18 And the question is,

Speaker 18 Bud might be fine

Speaker 18 rounds one, two, and three. Might be rounds four, five, and six.
but as we go deeper into the fight if it gets to that how well can he carry that 168

Speaker 24 i think both guys are more at their natural weight i don't think that canelo is that much bigger than uh than bud i think they're both just fighting that at their natural weight and that's why i love this fight because they both just two guys fighting at their natural weight and uh seeing who's who's just better you know a lot of times a lot of times we see one guy you know having weight problems and you know that that that or that you know shows in the fight but i think these guys both are fighting that more of their their natural weight, and they're more like evenly sized.

Speaker 24 Right.

Speaker 18 So, you think, so you think

Speaker 18 Canelo's natural walk-around weight, what do you think Canelo's natural walk-around weight? I'm saying probably 190.95.

Speaker 24 I'd say like 190, yeah.

Speaker 24 I would say that.

Speaker 18 You say the same for Bud?

Speaker 24 I'd say Bud, like 185.

Speaker 18 And the thing is, Bud doesn't have to strip that last 21 to go to 47.

Speaker 24 That really matters.

Speaker 18 Hell yeah.

Speaker 24 That really matters.

Speaker 18 You don't think it matters try losing weight and try that that first five

Speaker 24 and then fighting yes that's the hardest part yeah you lose weight okay anybody could go lose weight anybody go sit in a sauna for an hour and lose weight right but actually being able to compete right at the highest level after you lose that weight that's hard let me ask you when they refuel they're gonna make weight everybody i believe everybody's gonna make weight and let's just say everybody makes weight at 68.

Speaker 18 when they refuel what you think that what you think bud comes in at saturday night what you think canelo comes in i think they come in around the same

Speaker 18 I think

Speaker 18 80.

Speaker 24 Exactly. I'm going to say 80.
82.

Speaker 18 You ain't started camp yet, huh?

Speaker 24 No, I'm in pre-camp now, but I haven't started an actual camp.

Speaker 18 I mean, obviously,

Speaker 18 I don't know how boxers approach it, but for us, obviously, we watch the game film on our opponents. Yeah, of course.
And

Speaker 18 Ryan Norman Jr. Yeah.
Have you been able to watch film on him yet, or do you not really watch film until you get into camp?

Speaker 24 Yeah, no, of course.

Speaker 24 I was watching before we even

Speaker 24 announced announced a fight. Because

Speaker 24 I don't just take fights because

Speaker 24 I just want to, I got to study a guy and see

Speaker 24 where I could beat him. And

Speaker 24 if it's the right stylistically fight for me. And so, yeah, no,

Speaker 24 we've been watching them and we've been studying.

Speaker 18 You ready?

Speaker 24 Of course, yeah.

Speaker 18 Because, you know.

Speaker 24 Everybody talking. If I'm not ready, we're going to see you on November 22nd.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we're going to see.

Speaker 18 You're ready. You're ready.

Speaker 24 We're going to find out.

Speaker 18 No, but it's just like, you know, you say, are you ready? Like, all right, if I say, yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 24 Or if I say, no, I'm not ready, like,

Speaker 24 November 22nd, that's judgment day for me and him.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 But I've been here before. I've been at the highest level.
I've been,

Speaker 24 this is not my first rodeo. This is his first rodeo.
This is time to see if he's ready for the big stage.

Speaker 18 What happened in the Garcia fight?

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 24 I made mistakes in the fight,

Speaker 24 but PDs have played a lot with, played a lot into it. I don't care.
But you being an athlete, you being an athlete, you know what PDs can you do?

Speaker 18 It gives you an advantage. It gives you an advantage, no matter what.

Speaker 18 In that fight, did you think, did you suspect, or was it until the drug test came back that you knew something? Could you tell there was something different about this young man?

Speaker 18 Because I think you fought him in the amateurs, right?

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah, no, we fought six times in the amateurs. And nah, I didn't.
I didn't expect, I didn't suspect nothing. I thought that the better man beat me that night, and that's what I said.

Speaker 24 On that night, I said, hey, listen, you know, the better man beat me. You know, I'm going to go back to drawing board, and maybe one day we can do it again.
And that's what I thought.

Speaker 24 And before the fight, I didn't think that Ryan could beat me. And after the fight, I was hurt.
I was like, man, what the fuck? Like, how did I lose to a guy like Ryan Garcia?

Speaker 24 I know that I'm 10 times better than this guy. And then when the

Speaker 24 drug test came out, and I seen that I wasn't on an even playing field, then I was like,

Speaker 24 that's when I wasn't okay with it.

Speaker 18 I'm okay with losing on an even playing field. It's just part of it.

Speaker 24 It comes with it.

Speaker 24 We take that risk every time we step in the ring that you're going to win or you're going to lose.

Speaker 18 It is what it is.

Speaker 24 And I'm okay with losing. But I want it to be, you know, I want it to be on even.

Speaker 18 That's fair. Yeah.

Speaker 24 I like it.

Speaker 18 You like, so

Speaker 18 your money,

Speaker 18 you got to put something down on the wood. Canelo Crawford.

Speaker 18 Who you putting down on?

Speaker 24 I'm putting it on Crawford. I'm putting the house on Crawford.

Speaker 18 You think Crawford win by decision, or you think he can knock him out?

Speaker 24 I think he wins by decision. I mean, who's...

Speaker 18 Nobody's ever stopped him.

Speaker 24 We've seen Canelo hurt early, early in his career. After that, we've seen him fight the biggest punches, and we haven't seen him hurt.
But don't mean that it can't happen because it's boxing.

Speaker 24 One punch can change everything. But I think if Bud wins, it's going to be a decision for sure.

Speaker 18 So, should I bet that $10,000 or no? And I'll split it with you.

Speaker 18 Nah, I want you to pay me my money first, and then you can bet what's left over.

Speaker 18 You can put what's left over, old bud.

Speaker 18 Hey,

Speaker 18 Devin Haney. Yes, sir.
Appreciate you, bro. Thank you very much.
Thank you for having me. All right.
Good luck. Hey, good luck November 20th.
Thank you.

Speaker 29 Oh, bring me in the camp.

Speaker 18 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 18 Let's see. Go ahead, share.
Yeah.

Speaker 18 Chad, you heard it here first. I'll be in Devin Haney cap preparing him for the fight November 22nd.
It's on.

Speaker 29 Baby.

Speaker 18 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for joining us for another episode of Daycap. Y'all know who I am.
I'm your favorite Uncle Shannon Sharp. This is my partner and co-host.
That's Liberty City Zone.

Speaker 18 That's Bingo Ring of Fame Honoree, the Pro Bowl of the All-Pro. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.
Thank you guys for your support. Thank you guys for always tuning in and supporting Ocho and I.

Speaker 18 We greatly, greatly appreciate it. We'll see you tomorrow after the fight.
Tomorrow? The fight tomorrow? Today Thursday?

Speaker 29 Today Friday?

Speaker 18 Oh, baby, we got to fight. We'll see you guys tomorrow after the fight.
Damn. I didn't know that.

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